RE: Troubleshooting ethernet interface on a 2501 router [7:19545]

2001-09-12 Thread Farhan Ahmed

set keep alives
also tryy shut and no shut

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Hello All:

When I remove the UTP cable off the ethernet transceiver my router responds 
with a Ethernet0  is UP, line protocol is down...however when I reconnect 
the cable...it won't come back upwhy is that and how do I fix it?  This 
is strictly in a lab environment..but I'm trying to find out why it can't 
synch up again.  Is there a setting that I have to retype to tell it the
line
is connected??

Any thoughts on this is greatly appreciated.




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RE: 1603R Crash [7:19378]

2001-09-12 Thread Farhan Ahmed

hello everone,
 
After an upgrade of Ios and Dram on a 1603 R router by one of our guys, the
router crash and i cannot getinto the router the console is not responding
the back led is showing ok the link led is ok BUT the front led is blingking
countinously , sometimes 7 , 8 or in the begiinnng v fast then stays
blinking
 
i ve tried to xmodem the new ios but no luck
also search on cco and still but nothing
 
does anyone has clue
 


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Re: Troubleshooting ethernet interface on a 2501 router [7:19546]

2001-09-12 Thread EA Louie

or just a plain old clear int e0

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Subject: RE: Troubleshooting ethernet interface on a 2501 router [7:19545]


 set keep alives
 also tryy shut and no shut

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 Subject: Troubleshooting ethernet interface on a 2501 router [7:19543]


 Hello All:

 When I remove the UTP cable off the ethernet transceiver my router
responds
 with a Ethernet0  is UP, line protocol is down...however when I
reconnect
 the cable...it won't come back upwhy is that and how do I fix it?
This
 is strictly in a lab environment..but I'm trying to find out why it can't
 synch up again.  Is there a setting that I have to retype to tell it the
 line
 is connected??

 Any thoughts on this is greatly appreciated.
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Anybody have experience with the auth-proxy feature? [7:19547]

2001-09-12 Thread nrf

Hey all:

Note - this problem seemed really important to me, until I learned of the
latest current events.  I hope you all will join me in helping the victims.


Has anybody ever played with the auth-proxy feature of CBAC?  If so,
consider this situation, and tell me if it is normal.  I have set up
successful auth-proxy communications between a router and the AAA server,
and I have put the proper input access-list on the incoming interface -  all
HTTP traffic is challenged, and the username/password does indeed cause the
router to call the proxyacl Cisco AV pairs from the AAA server, so
everything seems cool, so it seems like everything is working OK.

But I have noticed that no matter how many proxyACL statements I put into
the AAA server, the router only dynamically inputs the first proxyacl
statement into the incoming interface's access-list.  For example, I put in
proxyacl#1, proxyacl#2, etc. etc., and when I debug aaa authorization, I
notice that all of those statements are successfully passed to the router.
Yet I notice that the router then only uses the first one (proxyacl#1), and
ignores the rest.

So, has anybody ever gotten an auth-proxy setup with multiple proxyacl
statements to work?  If so, what IOS were you using?




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Re: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread Stephen Skinner

...

we also in the UK fell most appalled by these actions...

we have lived with this for about 20 yrs ( yes we are trying to solve the 
problem...honest)

but on no-where near such a large scale.i dont know about everyone 
else  but we are grieving for your losses.

but let us all hope sanity prevails

my best wishes go out to all of you.


i think a role call may be in order ...

Chuck,John N,Howard,Kev W,EA,tony M,pris,B.ellis.Mr Slow???is 
everyone ok?

cu

steve
From: Rob Bains 
Reply-To: Rob Bains 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:51:28 -0400

Well;

I'm sure all the words have already been said, but I tried to refuse to
believe my ears
when I first woke up to news on the radio this morning.  Unfortunately, 
that
feeling of
disbelief was very short-lived since it was all over the media. Although I
don't
personally know anyone from that area, but I feel that innocent lives have
have been
lost, and many others have been affected by that loss for years to come.  
My
thoughts
and feelings are with those who survived, and the ones who lost their loved
ones. Trust
me, the emotions were felt all day here in Vancouver, BC (Canada).  Office
buildings
were shutdown mid-day.

In closing, I just want to say that no matter what the religion, one 
belongs
to, these
are real human beings taken away from fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters,
sons, and
daughters.  That is the issue, period!!

Question:  When will the human race learn to resolve their differences in
more peaceful
way???

Hope all is well with those in the middle of this crisis.

  Rob

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thank You Rene, and also Rita.
  I am in shock. There are many people on this list who worked in those
  buildings, and many more with friends and family there.
  I just heard from my first friend who was there and made it home.
  I'm sitting here watching my email and waiting for my phone to ring.
  Besides my friends and associates who are there, I can't help to think 
of
  the thousands and thousands of faces I've past in those hallways,
  escalators, offices, etc.
 
  -Erik Mintz
 
  Rene Schmid writes:
 
   best wishes from austria
  
   last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york 
and
  wtc
   vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack
  
   hope  that most of the people are OK
  
   Rene

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Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540]

2001-09-12 Thread Dennis H

Why are you requesting a binary in a non-binary group?



 wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 In the middle of studying the back up and restore methods thought in the
 sybex CCNA book my server unfortunetly crashed taking with it my IOS for
the
 2501 router.  I remember it having 12.1 IOS.  If anyone has 12.1 or 12.2
IOS
 and would be kind to upload it to me I would most greatly appreciate it.
 thank you all.




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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Vilas Nafde

Thisis what i received from one  newsgroup:

Some Prophesies about USA bombing
The Nostradamus prediction:(Nostradamus September 11th, 1651)
It has been foreseen that exactly three hundred and fifty years into the
future, silver phoenixes shall strike down the twin brothers of oppression
that carried the king's nation, which shall bring upon the apocalypse. -

Thanks  Regards

- Original Message -
From: Donny Mateo 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


 common guys..stop pointing finger and stuff.. there is enough problem out
 there already. Just do what you can to make things better, be it praying
or
 donating blood, as long as it's for the better than it's a good thing.

 As for God, I think we are not in the place to tell him what He should do
 and what He shouldn't do. He has his purpose and that is beyond our
 understanding.

 BTW: my deepest condolence to all of you out there who are affected by
this
 tragedy one way or another. I hope they pay for what they did.


 Donny

 From: B.J. Wilson
 Reply-To: B.J. Wilson
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:13 -0400
 
 Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
incredible
 loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
rebuilding
 our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.
As
 far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
 sure
 my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
 praying?
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Juan Blanco
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
   Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
   about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
   families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to
 save
   as many peoples as posible
  
   My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
  
   God bless america..
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
   Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
  
   We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
   families
   (if that can even be done??)
  
   Priscilla
  
   At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
   since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
   number
   of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
   probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
   terms of
   investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
things
   straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
planning,
   into
   corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
   
   yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
   eventually
   mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
   survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
   scratch, I
   would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
   sarcastically.
   
   this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
   weak
   as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
   
   hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
   that
   area are ok.
   
   Chuck
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
   sparkest pig
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
   
   
   Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
   Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
   
  
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Re: quetion of catalyst 5505 [7:19519]

2001-09-12 Thread Stephen Skinner

you have a hardware error

either the backplane slot is damaged (not likely) ...or the card is faulty..

try moving the card to a different slot and see ..if not order spare card ..

i think(am trying my best to understandit`s been a long day 
(already!!!) and i have a hangover)

CU steve


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: quetion of catalyst 5505 [7:19519]
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:16:35 -0400

Dear Group
I have catalyst 5505 with erro when I turrn on power It runing about 3 
minute
then repetive reset and the light in the erthernet module  blink yellow
In my catalyst include module card supervisor and 3 module card erthernet
.When I pull out 3 module erthernet  it run normal
no reset
it is log when i show flash

onsole (enable) show fla
FileVersion  SizeBuilt
---  --- -
c5000 nmp   5.1(2a)  2509406 07/29/99 12:32:27
   lcp   5.1(2a)26064 07/29/99 12:10:41
   lcp 360   5.1(2a)   139848 07/29/99 12:18:58
   atm/fddi  5.1(2a)26583 07/29/99 12:10:44
   lcp 64k   5.1(2a)57502 07/29/99 12:17:10
   lcp c5ip  5.1(2a)25855 07/29/99 12:17:12
   lcp tr5.1(2a)32479 07/29/99 12:12:02
   mcp 360   5.1(2a)   251124 07/29/99 12:27:36
   lcp atm   5.1(2a)26556 07/29/99 12:27:39
   lcp xa1   5.1(2a)91108 07/29/99 12:23:08
   lcp xa2   5.1(2a)61088 07/29/99 12:26:54
   mcp3g 5.1(2a)61281 07/29/99 12:06:52
   mcp2g 5.1(2a)56473 07/29/99 12:01:35
   mcp2g s4a 5.1(2a)60698 07/29/99 11:55:44
   mcp2g s4b32628 07/29/99 11:55:44
   tremblc6.30(ff.ff)9216
   trembl2   6.30(4.1)   9216
   banff 3.ff(ff.ff) 9216
   banff26.7(0.f)

pls show for me  where is erro

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RE: Deepest sympathy from Europe [7:19463]

2001-09-12 Thread Heap, Neil

I'd just like to add some words of consolation again from Europe,

I have never watched anything quite so despicable as yesterdays events
unfolding.

Words are simply not enough to express sympathy  condolence to the families
involved in the tragedy.

I just hope that the civilised world can  will eradicate terrorism to such
an extent that events of yesterday can never be repeated.

My thoughts go to out to the people  anyone in the group affected.

Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards
 
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IPsec over GRE tunnel to *nix box [7:19554]

2001-09-12 Thread Sam Deckert

Hey everyone,

First and foremost, I hope all people that have been affected by the tragedy
are coping ok - we here in Oz are thinking and praying for you.

Also, I was just wondering if anyone has ever been able to terminate a GRE
tunnel from a Cisco router to a *nix box of some flavor?  I have been
scouring
the net, but havent found anything that can do this as yet.  Is this even
possible?

Thanks for any help/ideas you can provide, and regards

Sam.




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RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:19354]

2001-09-12 Thread Wright, Jeremy

I like the CCIE written workbook from www.ccbootcamp.com
  a lot better than Sybex. This workbook has a
lot of good questions that helped me understand topics I WAS shady on. The
bridging sections were excellent. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks, Jeremy Wright

-Original Message-
From: kaushik khakhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:19354]



Hi,

Thanx a lot for your input, I have some more questions :-

Presently I am referring to 

CCIE Written Study Guide - Todd Lammle.
Basan Halabi - Interne Routing Architecture - Vol1

Perlman - Router, Bridges

I would like to have your input about the CCIE BootCamp - Written Exam
Study Guide, Is this book much different and have more useful information
over CCIE Study Guide by Todd Lammle. I may  not be able to attend the CCIE
Written Bootcamp in US,  but would like to know what do they emphasise on
and do they refer their own CCIE Written Guide handbook.

Kindly feel free to provide further inputs.

Wish you great luck for the Lab.

 

Cheers and many thanks,

Kaushik
Network Consultant - HP Netherlands

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:19354] 
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:13:49 -0400 
 
I read the CCIE Sybex book and thought that it was ok. It seems to me that 
it is more of a summary of all of the topics that you need to know. Here is

what I used: 
Jeff Doyle, Routing TCP/IP, Volume 1 
Caslow, Bridging, Routing, and Switching for CCIE's Volume 2 
Sybex, CCIE, (Just skimmed over) 
Halabi, IRA 
CCIE Written prep book from www.ccbootcamp.com 
Boson 1, 2, 3 (Some people have mentioned that 1 and 2 where sufficient but

I also used 3 and I felt it gave me the extra push I needed) 
CCIE Written bootcamp by www.ccbootcamp.com 
This helped me nail down the topics I was uncomfortable withbridging, 
RIF's yada yada yada. 
Drop me an email if I can help you more. I just passed last Friday using
all 
of the info above. 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: James liu007 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:49 PM 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: CCIE Written Exam [7:19354] 
 
 Hello Group. 
 
 I am preaparing for CCIE Exam. I will appreciate if you can 
give me some 
 feedback about Todd Lammle's CCIE book. 
 
 Moreover, I have lot of CCIE BDs /Exam notes. I would like 
to trade my 
 resources with you if you have some CCIE written notes / 
resources for me. 
 Please send me your emails at 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Thanks 
 
 James Liu 
 MCSE, CCNA and CCNP 
 
 Thanks 
 
 James Liu 
 MCSE, CCNA and CCNP 
 
 
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RE: CCIE Written [7:19260]

2001-09-12 Thread Wright, Jeremy

I would concentrate primarily on Caslow, Doyle, Halabi, Boson 1,2,3, and the
CCIE written workbook questions from www.ccbootcamp.com
   

-Original Message-
From:   SUBHASISH MUKHERJEE
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Sent:   Monday, September 10, 2001 11:14 AM
To: Wright, Jeremy
Subject:Re: CCIE Written [7:19260]

CONGRATS JERMEY AND CLD I TROUBLE YOU TO GIVE US SOME KEYS
DETAILS ON THE MATERIAL YOU RELIED UPON - WHICH CHAPTERS.ETC . .. WLD REALLY
APPRECIATE ANY ELABORATION ..

CHEERS!
Wright, Jeremy wrote:

I passed my CCIE written on Friday with an 810. Thanks to
everybody on the
list that has helped. I would like to especially thank
Dennis Laganiere and
the guys at Network Learning Inc. (aka ccbootcamp). I used
all of the books
mentioned before on the list along with the CCIE written
class that
ccbootcamp.com put on. Every one there was very
professional and I
appreciate the extra time they spent with me and the others
to really nail
down the concepts I had troubles with. I don't know if they
are planning on
doing another CCIE written class, but I would highly
recommend them to train
you if they do. On to the real challenge of the lab.

   
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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's the beauty of his prophecies, after the fact it is easy to make them
fit whatever circumstances existpeople see what they want to see, faces
in clouds, truth in horoscopes etc..


   

Vilas
Nafde

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09/12/2001
08:36
AM
   
Please
respond
to
Vilas
Nafde
   

   





Thisis what i received from one  newsgroup:

Some Prophesies about USA bombing
The Nostradamus prediction:(Nostradamus September 11th, 1651)
It has been foreseen that exactly three hundred and fifty years into the
future, silver phoenixes shall strike down the twin brothers of oppression
that carried the king's nation, which shall bring upon the apocalypse. -

Thanks  Regards

- Original Message -
From: Donny Mateo
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


 common guys..stop pointing finger and stuff.. there is enough problem out
 there already. Just do what you can to make things better, be it praying
or
 donating blood, as long as it's for the better than it's a good thing.

 As for God, I think we are not in the place to tell him what He should do
 and what He shouldn't do. He has his purpose and that is beyond our
 understanding.

 BTW: my deepest condolence to all of you out there who are affected by
this
 tragedy one way or another. I hope they pay for what they did.


 Donny

 From: B.J. Wilson
 Reply-To: B.J. Wilson
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:13 -0400
 
 Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
incredible
 loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
rebuilding
 our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.
As
 far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
 sure
 my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
 praying?
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Juan Blanco
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
   Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are
thinking
   about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
   families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order
to
 save
   as many peoples as posible
  
   My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
  
   God bless america..
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
   Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
  
   We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
   families
   (if that can even be done??)
  
   Priscilla
  
   At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
   since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
   number
   of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom
have
   probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
   terms of
   investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
things
   straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
planning,
   into
   corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
   
   yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
   eventually
   mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
   survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
   scratch, I
   would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
   sarcastically.
   
   this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy
as
   weak
   as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
   
   hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
   that
   area are ok.
   
   Chuck
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
   sparkest pig
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
   
   
   Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
   Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
   
  
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Secure FTP [7:19558]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick Donlon

It's a bit off the normal topic but can anyone recommend a decent secure FTP
client for windows ?

Thanks




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To All My Brothers and Sisters on this List !!! [7:19561]

2001-09-12 Thread Raees Ahmed Shaikh

To All My Brothers and Sisters on this List  and in America,

I am an Indian and I would like to express my condolences to all my brothers
and sisters of groupstudy and the whole American people with whom I have
been exchanging brilliant ideas and advises over the past couple of months
now.  I am not able to express my sorrow over this tragic and inhuman
activity which certainly is bad in each and all aspect of religion, race and
laws. 

We all are humans first and we follow one religion  which is humanity.  If
we fail to comply with this religion of humanity we are not qualified for
being part of any religion on earth. 

I express my sincere gratitude towards all of them who have lost their loved
ones and pray for the souls of the Lost to be in peace and under God's
mercy. 

  India is been under a crisis earlier in this year when there was a
tremendous big earthquake in India which shattered many of the lives and had
left a big impact on the hearts and minds of all Indians. We are thankful to
the whole world for supporting us in bad times. I wonder if the whole world
could be like in a virtual community like groupstudy where we forget
race,religion and culture and work on one mission which is Peace and
Happiness.

Peace,

Raees

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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Matthew Crane

To be precise the actual quote reads as follows

In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city...

In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning



Vilas Nafde wrote:
 
 Thisis what i received from one  newsgroup:
 
 Some Prophesies about USA bombing
 The Nostradamus prediction:(Nostradamus September 11th, 1651)
 It has been foreseen that exactly three hundred and fifty years
 into the
 future, silver phoenixes shall strike down the twin brothers of
 oppression
 that carried the king's nation, which shall bring upon the
 apocalypse. -
 
 Thanks  Regards
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Donny Mateo 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:50 AM
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
  common guys..stop pointing finger and stuff.. there is enough
 problem out
  there already. Just do what you can to make things better, be
 it praying
 or
  donating blood, as long as it's for the better than it's a
 good thing.
 
  As for God, I think we are not in the place to tell him what
 He should do
  and what He shouldn't do. He has his purpose and that is
 beyond our
  understanding.
 
  BTW: my deepest condolence to all of you out there who are
 affected by
 this
  tragedy one way or another. I hope they pay for what they did.
 
 
  Donny
 
  From: B.J. Wilson
  Reply-To: B.J. Wilson
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
  Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:13 -0400
  
  Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed,
 this
 incredible
  loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place. 
 Part of
 rebuilding
  our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth
 discussing.
 As
  far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today,
 and I've made
  sure
  my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing
 besides
  praying?
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Juan Blanco
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
  Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
  
  
Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here
 are thinking
about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about
 rebuilding
families.they should be thinking about a prayer to
 God in order to
  save
as many peoples as posible
   
My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror
 atack
   
God bless america..
   
-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
   
We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about
 rebuilding
families
(if that can even be done??)
   
Priscilla
   
At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy.
 there are a
number
of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all
 of whom have
probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the
 economy in
terms of
investment and investment capital. how long will it take
 to get
 things
straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market,
 into
 planning,
into
corporate spending. that translates into jobs.

yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and
 this will
eventually
mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City.
 If I were a
survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to
 build from
scratch, I
would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do
 not say that
sarcastically.

this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In
 an economy as
weak
as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.

hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances
 who work in
that
area are ok.

Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of
sparkest pig
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US Stock [7:19433]


Would the technology or other industry go down and the
 Department of
Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the
 Cisco geeks?

   
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Williamson, Paul

I suggest you go back to your newsgroup and educate them
Nostradamus died on July 2nd 1566
None of the text that you have reported appear in any of his quatrain's

What happened yesterday was an evil act committed by cowards
You insult all those innocent people by proporting that what happened
yesterday was fate



-Original Message-
From: Vilas Nafde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2001 13:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


Thisis what i received from one  newsgroup:

Some Prophesies about USA bombing
The Nostradamus prediction:(Nostradamus September 11th, 1651)
It has been foreseen that exactly three hundred and fifty years into the
future, silver phoenixes shall strike down the twin brothers of oppression
that carried the king's nation, which shall bring upon the apocalypse. -

Thanks  Regards

- Original Message -
From: Donny Mateo 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


 common guys..stop pointing finger and stuff.. there is enough problem out
 there already. Just do what you can to make things better, be it praying
or
 donating blood, as long as it's for the better than it's a good thing.

 As for God, I think we are not in the place to tell him what He should do
 and what He shouldn't do. He has his purpose and that is beyond our
 understanding.

 BTW: my deepest condolence to all of you out there who are affected by
this
 tragedy one way or another. I hope they pay for what they did.


 Donny

 From: B.J. Wilson
 Reply-To: B.J. Wilson
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:13 -0400
 
 Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
incredible
 loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
rebuilding
 our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.
As
 far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
 sure
 my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
 praying?
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Juan Blanco
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
   Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
   about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
   families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to
 save
   as many peoples as posible
  
   My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
  
   God bless america..
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
   Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
  
   We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
   families
   (if that can even be done??)
  
   Priscilla
  
   At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
   since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
   number
   of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
   probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
   terms of
   investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
things
   straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
planning,
   into
   corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
   
   yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
   eventually
   mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
   survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
   scratch, I
   would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
   sarcastically.
   
   this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
   weak
   as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
   
   hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
   that
   area are ok.
   
   Chuck
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
   sparkest pig
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
   
   
   Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
   Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
   
  
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Re: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Having gotten quite a few individual queries, let me give the list a 
heads-up.  I am fine, although short on sleep.

I live about four miles from the Pentagon.  What I presume to be the 
crash rattled my windows, and sounded like one of the larger BOOMs 
from a large fireworks demonstration downtown. There were a lot of 
sirens, but that isn't too unusual in this area.  When I started 
hearing jet fighters, that was unusual -- by then I was getting email 
to turn on television.

While I haven't driven to the Pentagon, and have no intention of 
doing so, most people who haven't seen it don't realize how large and 
spread out it is. It's really not one building, but five concentric 
pentagonal rings, from the outermost E ring to the innermost A 
ring. The damage appears to be localized to one side, probably with 
penetration to the C ring, and in a part that's been under renovation 
recently so might not have been fully populated.  It could have been 
much worse in Washington. Ironically, there's a central courtyard in 
the Pentagon that has a snack bar called the Ground Zero Cafe.

New York, of course, is quite another matter. There are reports of 
smoke from the World Financial Center, about a block away from the 
WTC. When I taught classes directly for Cisco, the training facility 
was in that building. Indeed, a couple of Cisco instructors had just 
finished a class and left when the 1993 (IIRC) bomb went off.  I may 
have friends in the WTC; I know of at least one that was there with 
his new wife when the first plane hit, and they did get out.

For those of you that don't follow the NANOG list, we may start 
seeing increased network disruption, especially on transatlantic 
links, as carrier facilities in the WTC area run out of fuel for 
their generators. People are guessing 48-70 hours, unless they can 
get more fuel. Verizon had a CO in one of the buildings that 
collapsed.




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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

That's the beauty of his prophecies, after the fact it is easy to make them
fit whatever circumstances existpeople see what they want to see, faces
in clouds, truth in horoscopes etc..


Think how he would have done in router marketing. Or do I mean switch?

At what layer of the OSI model are his prophecies?




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RE: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate --FIXED [7:19536]

2001-09-12 Thread pierreg

Thank you, I chose 102.162.86.54 and that did the trick.

Please help me understand the following two points:

1) What rational for not being able to use the same IP address for the
static mapping and the global translation IP address?

2) Can I use the IP address (outside) of the firewall to do static mapping?
If not then:

3) What is the purpose of the outside IP address? Looks kind of a waste to
me!

Thanks again

Pierre-Alex



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Hello,


Try This...

static (inside,outside) 102.162.86.xxx 10.1.1.13 netmask 255.255.255.255
conduit permit tcp host 102.162.86.xxx eq 80 any

You can't use the same address as your global translation 102.162.86.52
try 102.162.86.54


The first line creates the translation and the second line permits any
host to access your server on port 80.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: pierreg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate [7:19512]


Hi all,

I have a Web server on the internal side of the firewall (10.1.1.13)
I am trying to open port 80 of the firewall to internet traffic 
I get the error message: Cannot locate the static xlate
when I enter the command:

pixfirewall(config)# conduit 102.162.86.52 80 tcp 0

What am I doing wrong? My configs are below:

PIX Version 4.0.7
enable password 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
passwd 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
hostname pixfirewall
no failover
names
syslog output 20.3
no syslog console
interface ethernet outside 10baset
interface ethernet inside 10baset
ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
ip address outside 102.162.86.53 255.255.255.128
arp timeout 14400
global 1 102.162.86.52-102.162.86.52
nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
age 10
no rip outside passive
no rip outside default
no rip inside passive
no rip inside default
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 102.162.86.1 1
timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
http 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
telnet 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Williamson, Paul

To be precise it doesn't.

read the originals yourself and stop the hysteria

http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Crane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


To be precise the actual quote reads as follows

In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city...

In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning



Vilas Nafde wrote:
 
 Thisis what i received from one  newsgroup:
 
 Some Prophesies about USA bombing
 The Nostradamus prediction:(Nostradamus September 11th, 1651)
 It has been foreseen that exactly three hundred and fifty years
 into the
 future, silver phoenixes shall strike down the twin brothers of
 oppression
 that carried the king's nation, which shall bring upon the
 apocalypse. -
 
 Thanks  Regards
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Donny Mateo 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:50 AM
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
  common guys..stop pointing finger and stuff.. there is enough
 problem out
  there already. Just do what you can to make things better, be
 it praying
 or
  donating blood, as long as it's for the better than it's a
 good thing.
 
  As for God, I think we are not in the place to tell him what
 He should do
  and what He shouldn't do. He has his purpose and that is
 beyond our
  understanding.
 
  BTW: my deepest condolence to all of you out there who are
 affected by
 this
  tragedy one way or another. I hope they pay for what they did.
 
 
  Donny
 
  From: B.J. Wilson
  Reply-To: B.J. Wilson
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
  Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:13 -0400
  
  Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed,
 this
 incredible
  loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place. 
 Part of
 rebuilding
  our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth
 discussing.
 As
  far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today,
 and I've made
  sure
  my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing
 besides
  praying?
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Juan Blanco
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
  Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
  
  
Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here
 are thinking
about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about
 rebuilding
families.they should be thinking about a prayer to
 God in order to
  save
as many peoples as posible
   
My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror
 atack
   
God bless america..
   
-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
   
We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about
 rebuilding
families
(if that can even be done??)
   
Priscilla
   
At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy.
 there are a
number
of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all
 of whom have
probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the
 economy in
terms of
investment and investment capital. how long will it take
 to get
 things
straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market,
 into
 planning,
into
corporate spending. that translates into jobs.

yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and
 this will
eventually
mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City.
 If I were a
survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to
 build from
scratch, I
would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do
 not say that
sarcastically.

this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In
 an economy as
weak
as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.

hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances
 who work in
that
area are ok.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of
sparkest pig
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US Stock [7:19433]


Would the technology or other industry go down and the
 Department of
Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the
 Cisco geeks?

   
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Robert Perez

Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who is a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world!  You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts and
prayers go out to them!!

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


That's the beauty of his prophecies, after the fact it is easy to make them
fit whatever circumstances existpeople see what they want to see, faces
in clouds, truth in horoscopes etc..


 

Vilas
Nafde

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Thisis what i received from one  newsgroup:

Some Prophesies about USA bombing
The Nostradamus prediction:(Nostradamus September 11th, 1651)
It has been foreseen that exactly three hundred and fifty years into the
future, silver phoenixes shall strike down the twin brothers of oppression
that carried the king's nation, which shall bring upon the apocalypse. -

Thanks  Regards

- Original Message -
From: Donny Mateo
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


 common guys..stop pointing finger and stuff.. there is enough problem out
 there already. Just do what you can to make things better, be it praying
or
 donating blood, as long as it's for the better than it's a good thing.

 As for God, I think we are not in the place to tell him what He should do
 and what He shouldn't do. He has his purpose and that is beyond our
 understanding.

 BTW: my deepest condolence to all of you out there who are affected by
this
 tragedy one way or another. I hope they pay for what they did.


 Donny

 From: B.J. Wilson
 Reply-To: B.J. Wilson
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:13 -0400
 
 Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
incredible
 loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
rebuilding
 our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.
As
 far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
 sure
 my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
 praying?
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Juan Blanco
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
   Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are
thinking
   about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
   families.they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order
to
 save
   as many peoples as posible
  
   My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack
  
   God bless america..
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
   Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
  
   We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
   families
   (if that can even be done??)
  
   Priscilla
  
   At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
   since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
   number
   of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom
have
   probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
   terms of
   investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
things
   straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
planning,
   into
   corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
   
   yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
   eventually
   mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
   survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
   scratch, I
   would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
   sarcastically.
   
   this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy
as
   weak
   as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
   
   hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
   that
   area are ok.
   
   Chuck
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
   sparkest pig
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
   
   
   Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
   Defense funding go up?  would this be good to 

Re: Appletalk Zone filtering [7:19392]

2001-09-12 Thread Stephen Skinner

thank you priscilla ...

i have been trying to understand this for weeks and you have FINALLY helped 
me figure it out


CU

steve

From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Appletalk Zone filtering [7:19392]
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:32:14 -0400

When a Macintosh pulls up the Chooser, the Mac sends out a request to get
zones. A router responds. You can tell the router not to respond with a
GetZoneList filter.

When a router learns from another router about a new network, the router
asks the other router for the zones associated with that network. You can
make sure the router doesn't respond by doing a ZIPReplyFilter. The result
is that the network doesn't end up in the routing table because a network
without a zone doesn't exist in Cisco's implementation. Because the
network doesn't end up in the routing table, routers downstream don't ever
hear about it. This means that there's no need to do the ZIPReplyFilter on
routers downstream.

ZIPReplyFilter is more scalable because you don't have to run around to
each router that may have Macintoshes nearby and set up the GetZoneList
filter.

Priscilla

At 11:01 AM 9/11/01, Donny Mateo wrote:
 Dear List,
 
 got a little problem in understanding the real difference of using
 Getzonelist-filter and zip-reply-filter. The way I see it is both are 
doing
 exactly the same thing. CID by cisco press stated that zip-reply-filter 
is
 recommended to be used over GZL since GZL is not scallable and must be
 configure on every router. Doesn't the same thing also applies to
 zip-reply-filter ?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 dmateo
 
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RE: Deepest sympathy from Europe [7:19463]

2001-09-12 Thread Fomes Iain

I would like to say that I heartily agree with all of those sentiments.  All
of us in London have had to experience terrorism over the years, but never
on such a scale, has such a despicable act of cowardice taken place. Rest
assured, that all of the United Kingdom will stand alongside you, to make
sure that these acts of barbarism never happen again.

Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

regards
Iain Fomes
Mellon Site Services - London
44 20 7397 9347
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Cellphone 44 7887 750425



 -Original Message-
 From: Heap, Neil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 September 2001 13:41
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: Deepest sympathy from Europe [7:19463]
 
 I'd just like to add some words of consolation again from Europe,
 
 I have never watched anything quite so despicable as yesterdays events
 unfolding.
 
 Words are simply not enough to express sympathy  condolence to the
 families
 involved in the tragedy.
 
 I just hope that the civilised world can  will eradicate terrorism to
 such
 an extent that events of yesterday can never be repeated.
 
 My thoughts go to out to the people  anyone in the group affected.
 
 Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards
  
 Neil
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 NIKE European Operations Netherlands BV
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Re: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate [7:19512]

2001-09-12 Thread MikeN

Translate first, then punch a hole in the ASA(Adaptive Security Algorithm)
with either a conduit or ACL.
Static (inside,outside)   
I like to think of it as Static (highsecurity,lowsecurity) 
 
Default interface securities are outside 0, inside 100. Sessions can be
initiated from high security to low security as long as there is some kind
of translation or specified no translation with NAT 0. To go from a low
security interface to a high security interface, there must be translation,
either to itself, or to another address and then a conduit/ACL to allow the
session to be established.

MikeN

pierreg  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi all,

 I have a Web server on the internal side of the firewall (10.1.1.13)
 I am trying to open port 80 of the firewall to internet traffic
 I get the error message: Cannot locate the static xlate
 when I enter the command:

 pixfirewall(config)# conduit 102.162.86.52 80 tcp 0

 What am I doing wrong? My configs are below:

 PIX Version 4.0.7
 enable password 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
 passwd 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
 hostname pixfirewall
 no failover
 names
 syslog output 20.3
 no syslog console
 interface ethernet outside 10baset
 interface ethernet inside 10baset
 ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
 ip address outside 102.162.86.53 255.255.255.128
 arp timeout 14400
 global 1 102.162.86.52-102.162.86.52
 nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
 age 10
 no rip outside passive
 no rip outside default
 no rip inside passive
 no rip inside default
 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 102.162.86.1 1
 timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
 timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
 http 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
 no snmp-server location
 no snmp-server contact
 telnet 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
 mtu outside 1500
 mtu inside 1500




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Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]

2001-09-12 Thread Haydn Solomon

Hi all,

I was recently reading an article on ciscos site about strategies for
preventing denial of service attacks. They mentioned the ip intercept
configuration feature for IOS version 11.3. However our routers are
running version 12.0 and doesnt have that feature. Does anyone out
there know what other effective strategies can be used to prevent this
kind of attack on IOS versions other than 11.3? Any input will be
appreciated, thanks.

-Haydn




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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Stephen Skinner

In the words of the great Man himself

 these arn`t the droids your looking for ..we don`t need to see his 
paper`s.he can GO ABOUT HIS BUISNESS ..move alongMOVE 
ALONG.


guys ... i don`t think all this is helping.best leave it for a couple of 
week`s

thanks for listening

steve


From: Matthew Crane 
Reply-To: Matthew Crane 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:19:25 -0400

To be precise the actual quote reads as follows

In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city...

In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning



Vilas Nafde wrote:
 
  Thisis what i received from one  newsgroup:
 
  Some Prophesies about USA bombing
  The Nostradamus prediction:(Nostradamus September 11th, 1651)
  It has been foreseen that exactly three hundred and fifty years
  into the
  future, silver phoenixes shall strike down the twin brothers of
  oppression
  that carried the king's nation, which shall bring upon the
  apocalypse. -
 
  Thanks  Regards
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Donny Mateo
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
   common guys..stop pointing finger and stuff.. there is enough
  problem out
   there already. Just do what you can to make things better, be
  it praying
  or
   donating blood, as long as it's for the better than it's a
  good thing.
  
   As for God, I think we are not in the place to tell him what
  He should do
   and what He shouldn't do. He has his purpose and that is
  beyond our
   understanding.
  
   BTW: my deepest condolence to all of you out there who are
  affected by
  this
   tragedy one way or another. I hope they pay for what they did.
  
  
   Donny
  
   From: B.J. Wilson
   Reply-To: B.J. Wilson
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
   Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:27:13 -0400
   
   Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed,
  this
  incredible
   loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.
  Part of
  rebuilding
   our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth
  discussing.
  As
   far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today,
  and I've made
   sure
   my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing
  besides
   praying?
   
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Juan Blanco
   To:
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
   Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
   
   
 Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here
  are thinking
 about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about
  rebuilding
 families.they should be thinking about a prayer to
  God in order to
   save
 as many peoples as posible

 My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror
  atack

 God bless america..

 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]

 We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about
  rebuilding
 families
 (if that can even be done??)

 Priscilla

 At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
 since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy.
  there are a
 number
 of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all
  of whom have
 probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the
  economy in
 terms of
 investment and investment capital. how long will it take
  to get
  things
 straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market,
  into
  planning,
 into
 corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
 
 yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and
  this will
 eventually
 mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City.
  If I were a
 survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to
  build from
 scratch, I
 would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do
  not say that
 sarcastically.
 
 this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In
  an economy as
 weak
 as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
 
 hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances
  who work in
 that
 area are ok.
 
 Chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of
 sparkest pig
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
 Would the technology or other industry go down and the
  Department of
 Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the
  Cisco geeks?
 

Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540]

2001-09-12 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Guess you learned a great lesson in backup and recovery.
Let me clue you in on a secret. There are countless ways of getting that
data off the hard drive of your server. You should look into that. What kind
of server was it. I'll help you get your data back.
Don
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:48 PM
Subject: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540]


 In the middle of studying the back up and restore methods thought in the
 sybex CCNA book my server unfortunetly crashed taking with it my IOS for
the
 2501 router.  I remember it having 12.1 IOS.  If anyone has 12.1 or 12.2
IOS
 and would be kind to upload it to me I would most greatly appreciate it.
 thank you all.




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Mark Monica Baker

Sorry to waste b/w, but couldn't resist:

Layer 8, Religion, would be my guess.

Mark

-Original Message-
From:   Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: US Stock [7:19433]

That's the beauty of his prophecies, after the fact it is easy to make them
fit whatever circumstances existpeople see what they want to see, faces
in clouds, truth in horoscopes etc..


Think how he would have done in router marketing. Or do I mean switch?

At what layer of the OSI model are his prophecies?




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RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1 [7:19572]

2001-09-12 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Thanks Jenny,

I will look into that.

Kindest regards,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19335]


Ole,
I was going to post this yesterday but got called on to make a house call
to a sick router :-(
Not in direct answer to your question, but I suggest you look into traffic
shaping at the hub.
Using traffic shaping, you can prevent the hub from trying to send data
down a PVC at greater than 256 kbps - without traffic shaping, the router
doesn't know that the other end can only deal with 256 kbps, but the
telco's switch does and will drop any traffic above 256kbps.
A presentation at Networkers 2000 Melbourne had some good guidelines for
frame relay traffic shaping - I don't know a URL (or even if it's online
still), but drop me a note if you're interested.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 10/09/2001 03:07 pm -
 

Ole
Drews
Jensen  To:
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   Subject: RE: FR question -
Configuring
Sent by: Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19119]
   
nobody@groups
   
tudy.com
 

 

   
09/09/2001
03:21
am
   
Please
respond
to
Ole
Drews
   
Jensen
 

 





Thanks to all of you who replied to this one.

And yes, the host has 768 kbps bandwidth, and each of the three branch
offices has 256 kbps.

All I needed to know was if I needed any timeslot config on the subs, but I
now know that I don't.

Thanks again, and have a great weekend,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 1:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19093]


I had read the message as each of the branch offices having a 256K link. in
any case, Rik, you are probably correct in your interpretation as well.

Only Ole can clarify what he meant. My point ( and yours ) is that there is
no way or need to do further configuration on the host site with regards to
the frame connection. The timeslots are not reserved in terms of which
DLCI uses which timeslots or group of timeslots. all data will go out the
physical interface as fast as the wire permits. the layer three to layer
two
mapping will determine which PVC gets which of those frames.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rik Guyler
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19091]


However, it appears that Ole wants to (correct me if I'm wrong) limit the
bandwidth per DLCI.  Is this true?  If that's the case, unfortunately there
is no way to do this on the router.

When you order a FR circuit, you are typically ordering a T1 for layer 1 so
you really are just getting 1 pipe capable of flowing 768k.  The DLCIs
converge into this pipe in a logical fashion, not a physical one, hence the
layer 2 stuff (FR encapsulation) needed at this point.

---
Rik Guyler

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19081]


Ole, my man, you are trying to outsmart yourself, and you're a pretty smart
guy ;-

Your T1 module is for the telco interface only. You purchased 768K, it
appears. Your DLCI's / PVC's will share that 768K with no further layer 1
actions on your part

once you have properly configured the layer one stuff - the timeslots and
B8ZS and ESF and yellow alarm and loopback and clock source, you are done
with the service module.

All that remains is assigning the DLCI's to the appropriate subinterface,
and IP addressing for the PVC's, and you are on your way.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ole Drews Jensen
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FR question 

OSPF over Frame Relay NBMA [7:19577]

2001-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a 2610 as one peer router and a 3640 as the other peer router.  I
have a 7206 operating as the frame relay switch between them.  Layer 2
and Layer 3 are fine because if I use static routes on both peers I can
ping across the links.  However, I must be setting up OSPF dynamic routing
incorrectly.  Most examples show OSPF over point-to-point frame relay by
running OSPF routing processes on all three routers and then putting the
appropriate network statements on the central router, however the central
router is only a frame-relay switch in my topology without ip addresses on
its interfaces.  Any ideas would be helpful.

John Squeo
Technical Specialist
Papa John's Corporation
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RE: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]

2001-09-12 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I think I said that. :-

By replace I meant that IRB is far more functional, and more useful in
general..

With regards to the mechanics, IRB ( integrated routing and bridging ) one
can bridge into the routed domain ( interfaces, if you insist ) and route
into the bridged domain ( interfaces, if you insist ) this is done, as you
point out, through the bridge virtual interface ( BVI ) mechanism

with concurrent routing and bridging, CRB, one can indeed route and bridge
the most of the same protocols, but cannot forward packets from a bridged
interface to a routed interface or visa versa. i.e. from the bridged domain
into the routed domain or visa versa.

I think I understand what you are getting to when you say bridge and route
on the same interface but my response is why would you need to? oh, that's
right - you hearken to the days when Apollo, Dec, LAT and all that other
crap was out there ;-

Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
MADMAN
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]


IRB is differant from CRB not a replacemant.  IRB allows one to bridge and
route on the same interface, CRB allows you to route and bridge on different
interfaces.

  Dave

Chuck Larrieu wrote:

 h concurrent routing and bridging?

 using CRB, one cannot connect the bridged and the routed domains, but one
 can bridge and route the same protocol, if memory serves. CRB has pretty
 much been replaced by IRB.


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_
 c/bcprt1/bcdtb.htm#xtocid1869423
 watch the wrap

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MADMAN
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]

 ME thinks Russ wants to bridge and route the same protocol in which
 case that won't work.  Check IRB, integrated routing and bridging.  I
 have used IRB to bridge IP/IPX from one interface to another in the same
 router but never in the scenerio you describe.

   Dave

 Jim Brown wrote:
 
  int e0
  ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y
 
  int e1
  bridge-group 1
 
  int s0
  ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y
 
  int s1
  bridge-group 1
 
  bridge 1 protocol ieee (or dec)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Russ Kreigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]
 
  Hello all -
 
  I need to bridge E1 to S1 on a router, and route E0 to S0, how can I do
  this? This router config is the same on each end.
 
  END A  END B
 
  E0-S0  --  S0-E0
  E1-S1  --  S1-E1 (Bridge)
 
  Thanks
 
  -Russ
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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-12 Thread MADMAN

What is the real address, I understand if your reticent to provide it
but is it part of a larger CIDR block from the other provider?  If so
and the satellite provider is announcing a more specific /24 then all
traffic will come over the satellite link.

  there is much info missing to really help you in any meaningful way.

  Dave

suaveguru wrote:
 
 Most of the traffic is arriving via the provider your
 doing BGP with and is via this one block of ip with a
 /24 e.g 1.1.1.0/24
 
 I am seeing almost 100% utilisation via the satellite
 down-link (1st provider running BGP) and very minimum
 traffic at the second provider( terrestrial) running
 default route
 
 Because the customer does not have their own AS so a
 private AS is used
 
 regards,
 suaveguru
 --- MADMAN  wrote:
 
 
A prepend will surely influence the inbound
  traffic.  Is most of your
  traffic currently arriving via the provider your
  doing BGP with?  What
  exactly are you seeing??  Why are you even doing BGP
  with a private AS
  that is incoming only??  With the info you provided
  it's hard to give a
  good answer.
 
dave
 
  suaveguru wrote:
  
   do you think having them change private AS to
  public
   AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do
  some
   kind of influencing?
  
   regards,
   suaveguru
   --- MADMAN  wrote:
   
  You have no way of influencing via BGP the
  inbound
routes since your
using a private AS on one link and default on
  the
other.  You need to
work with your providers if you wish to have
incoming traffic to your
network influenced one way or the other.
   
suaveguru wrote:

 hi all

 I have been cracking my head with this
load-balancing
 issue but still no answer .

 It goes as such

 Customer A has two providers to Internet

 The first provider runs BGP with Customer A
  and is
 only a Receive-Only Inbound link over
  Satellite

 The second provider is a terrestrial link
full-duplex
 but the customer does not run BGP with them
  but
purely
 a default route

 Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
traffic
 between the two providers for the Inbound
  traffic
to
 the customer.

 I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH
  prepend
but
 was not so ready to use it because the
  customer
does
 not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using
  private
AS
 number provided by the first satellite
  provider
and
 the first provider simply strip private
  AS-Numbers
at
 their router

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Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540]

2001-09-12 Thread EA Louie

rotf...is it time to start the alt.binaries.cisco.ios.12.1 newsgroup???

- Original Message -
From: Dennis H 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2? [7:19540]


 Why are you requesting a binary in a non-binary group?



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  2501 router.  I remember it having 12.1 IOS.  If anyone has 12.1 or 12.2
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Damn, I *knew* I shouldn't have stolen that Matchbox car from the toy store
when I was five.  Sorry people of NYC...my bad.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who is a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world!  You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts and
prayers go out to them!!




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Re: sympathy expression [7:19542]

2001-09-12 Thread John Neiberger

Thanks, Tony.  

Yes, this was very needless but this sort of thing happens when you
combine a radically violent religious movement with a lack of education.
 Throw in a lot of brainwashing by their leaders and look what you
getcrowds of Palestinians and Egyptians partying in the streets,
overcome with joy over this event.  Those pictures cause even more anger
in me than the pictures of the attack.  But they're too stupid to
realize that they've successfully galvanized the will of America and
turned us against them.  How idiotic...

 Tony van Ree  9/11/01 11:45:26 PM 
Hi,

I would like express sympathy to those hurt in these circumstances.  

What I find really difficult to grasp is, why?'.  I can't understand
any of
it.  I seems so needless.

Teunis 


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Re: Secure FTP [7:19558]

2001-09-12 Thread John Neiberger

Yep.  It's called SecureFX, made by the same people who made SecureCRT. 
It's very, very cool and I use it every day.

www.vandyke.com 

But don't ask me to send you any license keys.  ;-)(someone else
did that last week)

John

 Patrick Donlon  9/12/01 7:16:29 AM

It's a bit off the normal topic but can anyone recommend a decent
secure FTP
client for windows ?

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Re: Troubleshooting ethernet interface on a 2501 router [7:19576]

2001-09-12 Thread MADMAN

Keep alives are enabled by default, if you disable keepalives you
interface will stay up forever.  What are you plugging into??  Are you
geting a link light?  Is you hub/switch port is good and your cable is
good your interface should come back up, no magic needed.

  Dave

EA Louie wrote:
 
 or just a plain old clear int e0
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Farhan Ahmed
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:00 AM
 Subject: RE: Troubleshooting ethernet interface on a 2501 router [7:19545]
 
  set keep alives
  also tryy shut and no shut
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:03 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Troubleshooting ethernet interface on a 2501 router [7:19543]
 
 
  Hello All:
 
  When I remove the UTP cable off the ethernet transceiver my router
 responds
  with a Ethernet0  is UP, line protocol is down...however when I
 reconnect
  the cable...it won't come back upwhy is that and how do I fix it?
 This
  is strictly in a lab environment..but I'm trying to find out why it can't
  synch up again.  Is there a setting that I have to retype to tell it the
  line
  is connected??
 
  Any thoughts on this is greatly appreciated.
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RE: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread Chuck Larrieu

while asking about folks, anyone on this list know Tony Weskit, or have a
recent e-mail?

haven't heard from him in several months, but I know at one point he was
working in the investment industry.


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Stephen Skinner
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]


...

we also in the UK fell most appalled by these actions...

we have lived with this for about 20 yrs ( yes we are trying to solve the
problem...honest)

but on no-where near such a large scale.i dont know about everyone
else  but we are grieving for your losses.

but let us all hope sanity prevails

my best wishes go out to all of you.


i think a role call may be in order ...

Chuck,John N,Howard,Kev W,EA,tony M,pris,B.ellis.Mr Slow???is
everyone ok?

cu

steve
From: Rob Bains
Reply-To: Rob Bains
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:51:28 -0400

Well;

I'm sure all the words have already been said, but I tried to refuse to
believe my ears
when I first woke up to news on the radio this morning.  Unfortunately,
that
feeling of
disbelief was very short-lived since it was all over the media. Although I
don't
personally know anyone from that area, but I feel that innocent lives have
have been
lost, and many others have been affected by that loss for years to come.
My
thoughts
and feelings are with those who survived, and the ones who lost their loved
ones. Trust
me, the emotions were felt all day here in Vancouver, BC (Canada).  Office
buildings
were shutdown mid-day.

In closing, I just want to say that no matter what the religion, one
belongs
to, these
are real human beings taken away from fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters,
sons, and
daughters.  That is the issue, period!!

Question:  When will the human race learn to resolve their differences in
more peaceful
way???

Hope all is well with those in the middle of this crisis.

  Rob

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thank You Rene, and also Rita.
  I am in shock. There are many people on this list who worked in those
  buildings, and many more with friends and family there.
  I just heard from my first friend who was there and made it home.
  I'm sitting here watching my email and waiting for my phone to ring.
  Besides my friends and associates who are there, I can't help to think
of
  the thousands and thousands of faces I've past in those hallways,
  escalators, offices, etc.
 
  -Erik Mintz
 
  Rene Schmid writes:
 
   best wishes from austria
  
   last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york
and
  wtc
   vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack
  
   hope  that most of the people are OK
  
   Rene

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RE: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread Chuck Larrieu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]


snip

For those of you that don't follow the NANOG list, we may start
seeing increased network disruption, especially on transatlantic
links, as carrier facilities in the WTC area run out of fuel for
their generators. People are guessing 48-70 hours, unless they can
get more fuel. Verizon had a CO in one of the buildings that
collapsed.

CL: in a ghoulish sort of way, this leads back to the single point of
failure discussion we had the other day.




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survivor info [7:19581]

2001-09-12 Thread Chuck Larrieu

the following site is finally up again. yesterday it was seriously
overloaded.

http://www.shunn.net/okay/

it now contains links to a bunch of places with more current information.




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RE: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread NP-BASS LEON

I work right around the corner from the Pentagon, When you can hear and
smell, that is indication things are more than close enough. The atmosphere
here is somewhat latent, still in dis-belief and insecure, but wanting an
answer and for someone to pay. All I can say is that this is something you
can try to imagine, but you can never discribe what has happened here.
Thanks for the thoughts and comments.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Bains [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]


Well;

I'm sure all the words have already been said, but I tried to refuse to
believe my ears
when I first woke up to news on the radio this morning.  Unfortunately, that
feeling of
disbelief was very short-lived since it was all over the media. Although I
don't
personally know anyone from that area, but I feel that innocent lives have
have been
lost, and many others have been affected by that loss for years to come.  My
thoughts
and feelings are with those who survived, and the ones who lost their loved
ones. Trust
me, the emotions were felt all day here in Vancouver, BC (Canada).  Office
buildings
were shutdown mid-day.

In closing, I just want to say that no matter what the religion, one belongs
to, these
are real human beings taken away from fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters,
sons, and
daughters.  That is the issue, period!!

Question:  When will the human race learn to resolve their differences in
more peaceful
way???

Hope all is well with those in the middle of this crisis.

  Rob

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank You Rene, and also Rita.
 I am in shock. There are many people on this list who worked in those
 buildings, and many more with friends and family there.
 I just heard from my first friend who was there and made it home.
 I'm sitting here watching my email and waiting for my phone to ring.
 Besides my friends and associates who are there, I can't help to think of
 the thousands and thousands of faces I've past in those hallways,
 escalators, offices, etc.

 -Erik Mintz

 Rene Schmid writes:

  best wishes from austria
 
  last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york and
 wtc
  vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack
 
  hope  that most of the people are OK
 
  Rene

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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread John Neiberger

Man, that's going to haunt you forever.  I stole some gum from a store
when I was nine and the world hasn't been the same since!

 Wilson, Bradley  9/12/01 8:20:01 AM 
Damn, I *knew* I shouldn't have stolen that Matchbox car from the toy
store
when I was five.  Sorry people of NYC...my bad.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who is
a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world! 
You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not
expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little
children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts
and
prayers go out to them!!




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RE: OSPF over Frame Relay NBMA [7:19577]

2001-09-12 Thread Chuck Larrieu

check your ospf network types on both routers ( not the switch )

sh ip ospf interface

are you using subinterfaces on the 26 and 36 routers? physical interfaces?
mixture?

debug ip ospf adjacency is a great tool

configurations help

Chuck

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Subject: OSPF over Frame Relay NBMA [7:19577]


I have a 2610 as one peer router and a 3640 as the other peer router.  I
have a 7206 operating as the frame relay switch between them.  Layer 2
and Layer 3 are fine because if I use static routes on both peers I can
ping across the links.  However, I must be setting up OSPF dynamic routing
incorrectly.  Most examples show OSPF over point-to-point frame relay by
running OSPF routing processes on all three routers and then putting the
appropriate network statements on the central router, however the central
router is only a frame-relay switch in my topology without ip addresses on
its interfaces.  Any ideas would be helpful.

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routing [7:19586]

2001-09-12 Thread Picciani Francesco Saverio

A have to router connetted in LAN on one side. On this side reside some http
clients. Each router has to pvc in WAN to other two routers on the second
side. this two router are also connected in LAN and on this LAN reside a Web
server. I wish that all the http traffic from the clients on the first side
to the Web server on te second side is routed through a specific PVC and the
same for the return traffic. 
Can someone suggest me some solution?

Thanks  
  

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Albacom S.p.A.
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Re: To All My Brothers and Sisters on this List !!! [7:19561]

2001-09-12 Thread Rajeev Karamchand

Our thoughts and prayers are with you to our friends
in America. We share with ur grief and sorrow. 


rajeev




--- Raees Ahmed Shaikh  wrote:
 To All My Brothers and Sisters on this List  and in
 America,
 
 I am an Indian and I would like to express my
 condolences to all my brothers
 and sisters of groupstudy and the whole American
 people with whom I have
 been exchanging brilliant ideas and advises over the
 past couple of months
 now.  I am not able to express my sorrow over this
 tragic and inhuman
 activity which certainly is bad in each and all
 aspect of religion, race and
 laws. 
 
 We all are humans first and we follow one religion 
 which is humanity.  If
 we fail to comply with this religion of humanity we
 are not qualified for
 being part of any religion on earth. 
 
 I express my sincere gratitude towards all of them
 who have lost their loved
 ones and pray for the souls of the Lost to be in
 peace and under God's
 mercy. 
 
   India is been under a crisis earlier in this year
 when there was a
 tremendous big earthquake in India which shattered
 many of the lives and had
 left a big impact on the hearts and minds of all
 Indians. We are thankful to
 the whole world for supporting us in bad times. I
 wonder if the whole world
 could be like in a virtual community like groupstudy
 where we forget
 race,religion and culture and work on one mission
 which is Peace and
 Happiness.
 
 Peace,
 
 Raees
 
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Brant Stevens

I know that Morgan Stanley Dean Witter was in there...  I interviewed with
Cantor Fitzgerald on the 101st floor about 3 years ago...  My heart goes out
to them, their families, and other loved-ones...

It is unbelievable here; surreal...  All I hear is sirens moving in the
downtown direction...

This is definitely not good for the economy... just with insurance companies
alone...  Cantor, I believe, was a major bond market maker...

But NY'ers are a tough bunch... we'll get through this...

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a number
of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms of
investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning, into
corporate spending. that translates into jobs.

yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will eventually
mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch, I
would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
sarcastically.

this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as weak
as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.

hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
area are ok.

Chuck

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US Stock [7:19433]


Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?



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Re: OSPF over Frame Relay NBMA [7:19577]

2001-09-12 Thread John Neiberger

If the 7206 is only operating as a frame relay switch, it is irrelevant
to your OSPF configuration.  Pretend that it doesn't exist.  Your OSPF
configuration depends on how you've configured your 2610 and 3640.  Try
configuring  them with point-to-point subinterfaces and then configure
OSPF as you suggest below.

HTH,
John

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  9/12/01
8:22:20 AM 
I have a 2610 as one peer router and a 3640 as the other peer router. 
I
have a 7206 operating as the frame relay switch between them.  Layer
2
and Layer 3 are fine because if I use static routes on both peers I
can
ping across the links.  However, I must be setting up OSPF dynamic
routing
incorrectly.  Most examples show OSPF over point-to-point frame relay
by
running OSPF routing processes on all three routers and then putting
the
appropriate network statements on the central router, however the
central
router is only a frame-relay switch in my topology without ip addresses
on
its interfaces.  Any ideas would be helpful.

John Squeo
Technical Specialist
Papa John's Corporation
(502) 261-4035




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Re: Voice over IP [7:19590]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick Donlon

In short yes, once you've packetised the voice you can just route it like
any other ip packets

cheers Pat


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 Hi all,

 I have a question regarding to Voice over IP. Is it possible to make voice
 over IP connections on eth and distributing it by ip over frame relay by a
 different vendors router?.

 Let me explain this scenerio in detail. You have a wide area network
 connected by a frame relay cloud with  Motorola routers. The main Motorola
 router is connected to PBX by 2 EM ports. And it is the wide area
 connection by ip over frame relay to the frame relay cloud. We want to
 connect a cisco 1750 router to ethernet and its fxs port to  PBX of the
 company. Is it possible to put another 1750 to the other side of the frame
 relay cloud and put its FXS to its PBX and make these to areas talk voice
 over ip like below figure.

   ETH
  ---
| |
| |
 Eth  Eth
 Cisco 1750   Mot 6560 s0--FRAME RELAY  and IP--s0 Cisco
 FXSEM  CLOUD
1750
 | |
 FXS
 | | ---P
 |
 |-B
 Telephone
 |   X
  Telephone

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Re: Secure FTP [7:19558]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick Donlon

Thanks for the tips everyone, I'll try them out

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 It's a bit off the normal topic but can anyone recommend a decent secure
FTP
 client for windows ?

 Thanks




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Re: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]

2001-09-12 Thread MADMAN

About the only reason I have used BVI of late is on routers that
terminate DSL, (I know it's not the only way) and to connected L3
engines of some switches to the L2

  Route to live, live to route

  Dave

Chuck Larrieu wrote:
 
 I think I said that. :-
 
 By replace I meant that IRB is far more functional, and more useful in
 general..
 
 With regards to the mechanics, IRB ( integrated routing and bridging ) one
 can bridge into the routed domain ( interfaces, if you insist ) and route
 into the bridged domain ( interfaces, if you insist ) this is done, as you
 point out, through the bridge virtual interface ( BVI ) mechanism
 
 with concurrent routing and bridging, CRB, one can indeed route and bridge
 the most of the same protocols, but cannot forward packets from a bridged
 interface to a routed interface or visa versa. i.e. from the bridged domain
 into the routed domain or visa versa.
 
 I think I understand what you are getting to when you say bridge and route
 on the same interface but my response is why would you need to? oh, that's
 right - you hearken to the days when Apollo, Dec, LAT and all that other
 crap was out there ;-
 
 Chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MADMAN
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]
 
 IRB is differant from CRB not a replacemant.  IRB allows one to bridge and
 route on the same interface, CRB allows you to route and bridge on
different
 interfaces.
 
   Dave
 
 Chuck Larrieu wrote:
 
  h concurrent routing and bridging?
 
  using CRB, one cannot connect the bridged and the routed domains, but one
  can bridge and route the same protocol, if memory serves. CRB has pretty
  much been replaced by IRB.
 
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_
  c/bcprt1/bcdtb.htm#xtocid1869423
  watch the wrap
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  MADMAN
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:46 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]
 
  ME thinks Russ wants to bridge and route the same protocol in which
  case that won't work.  Check IRB, integrated routing and bridging.  I
  have used IRB to bridge IP/IPX from one interface to another in the same
  router but never in the scenerio you describe.
 
Dave
 
  Jim Brown wrote:
  
   int e0
   ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y
  
   int e1
   bridge-group 1
  
   int s0
   ip address X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y
  
   int s1
   bridge-group 1
  
   bridge 1 protocol ieee (or dec)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Russ Kreigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:24 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Routing and Bridging [7:19472]
  
   Hello all -
  
   I need to bridge E1 to S1 on a router, and route E0 to S0, how can I do
   this? This router config is the same on each end.
  
   END A  END B
  
   E0-S0  --  S0-E0
   E1-S1  --  S1-E1 (Bridge)
  
   Thanks
  
   -Russ
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great prices on lab rental [7:19593]

2001-09-12 Thread Rick Johnson

Check out www.bfq.com.  October is open right now.  6 hours for only 49.95. 
They have dual RSM's and a token ring switch as well.  Set up like Mentor
Technologies ECP1 class.


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Network monitoring tools [7:19597]

2001-09-12 Thread Duncan Stuart

Hi People,

Can anyone recommend a network monitoring tool that also provides a good
reporting facility.  Most of the monitored technology is Cisco.

regards
Duncan




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Re: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]

2001-09-12 Thread MADMAN

send a sh ver of your router, not all platforms support TCP Intercept.

  Dave

Haydn Solomon wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was recently reading an article on ciscos site about strategies for
 preventing denial of service attacks. They mentioned the ip intercept
 configuration feature for IOS version 11.3. However our routers are
 running version 12.0 and doesnt have that feature. Does anyone out
 there know what other effective strategies can be used to prevent this
 kind of attack on IOS versions other than 11.3? Any input will be
 appreciated, thanks.
 
 -Haydn
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Voice over IP [7:19590]

2001-09-12 Thread Cisco Breaker

Hi all,

I have a question regarding to Voice over IP. Is it possible to make voice
over IP connections on eth and distributing it by ip over frame relay by a
different vendors router?.

Let me explain this scenerio in detail. You have a wide area network
connected by a frame relay cloud with  Motorola routers. The main Motorola
router is connected to PBX by 2 EM ports. And it is the wide area
connection by ip over frame relay to the frame relay cloud. We want to
connect a cisco 1750 router to ethernet and its fxs port to  PBX of the
company. Is it possible to put another 1750 to the other side of the frame
relay cloud and put its FXS to its PBX and make these to areas talk voice
over ip like below figure.

  ETH
 ---
   | |
   | |
Eth  Eth
Cisco 1750   Mot 6560 s0--FRAME RELAY  and IP--s0 Cisco
FXSEM  CLOUD  1750
| |
FXS
| | ---P
|
|-B
Telephone
|   X
 Telephone

Best regards,




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RE: OSPF over Frame Relay NBMA [7:19577]

2001-09-12 Thread Rick Johnson

If you are doing OSPF and using physical int., then you need map statements
with broadcast at the end.  If sub int's you don't need map statements but
you must have network statements of course and a neighbor statement.  You
don't need any OSPF config on your frame switch.  e-mail me if you want to
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Re: OSPF over Frame Relay NBMA [7:19577]

2001-09-12 Thread MADMAN

The switch has nothing to do with OSPF, send your configs

  dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have a 2610 as one peer router and a 3640 as the other peer router.  I
 have a 7206 operating as the frame relay switch between them.  Layer 2
 and Layer 3 are fine because if I use static routes on both peers I can
 ping across the links.  However, I must be setting up OSPF dynamic routing
 incorrectly.  Most examples show OSPF over point-to-point frame relay by
 running OSPF routing processes on all three routers and then putting the
 appropriate network statements on the central router, however the central
 router is only a frame-relay switch in my topology without ip addresses on
 its interfaces.  Any ideas would be helpful.
 
 John Squeo
 Technical Specialist
 Papa John's Corporation
 (502) 261-4035
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Re: US Stock [7:19534]

2001-09-12 Thread Rick Johnson

OUCH, that is a nasty sentiment.  You need to get a better attitude.  Cisco
is not a religion, sounds like you need to find some.


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Re: Voice over IP [7:19590]

2001-09-12 Thread Cisco Breaker

clearly we will route them from eth to wan by frame relay


Patrick Donlon  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 In short yes, once you've packetised the voice you can just route it like
 any other ip packets

 cheers Pat


 Cisco Breaker  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi all,
 
  I have a question regarding to Voice over IP. Is it possible to make
voice
  over IP connections on eth and distributing it by ip over frame relay by
a
  different vendors router?.
 
  Let me explain this scenerio in detail. You have a wide area network
  connected by a frame relay cloud with  Motorola routers. The main
Motorola
  router is connected to PBX by 2 EM ports. And it is the wide area
  connection by ip over frame relay to the frame relay cloud. We want to
  connect a cisco 1750 router to ethernet and its fxs port to  PBX of the
  company. Is it possible to put another 1750 to the other side of the
frame
  relay cloud and put its FXS to its PBX and make these to areas talk
voice
  over ip like below figure.
 
ETH
   ---
 | |
 | |
  Eth  Eth
  Cisco 1750   Mot 6560 s0--FRAME RELAY  and IP--s0 Cisco
  FXSEM  CLOUD
 1750
  | |
  FXS
  | | ---P
  |
  |-B
  Telephone
  |   X
   Telephone
 
  Best regards,




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eigrp routing [7:19603]

2001-09-12 Thread khramov

I have a static route on my core router to the firewall.  However, when
I do sh ip eigrp topology it shows that there are two routes to the
firewall through other routers in a topology table.  Since firewall does
not respond to traceroute how can I test the network.
I am sure that it is using staic route, but why does it have two other
entries in the topology table.
Trying to learn eigrp.

Thanks for your input,
Alex




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RE: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]

2001-09-12 Thread Kent Hundley

Go to http://www.cisco.com/go/fn and search for TCP intercept.

HTH,
Kent

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Haydn Solomon
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]


Hi all,

I was recently reading an article on ciscos site about strategies for
preventing denial of service attacks. They mentioned the ip intercept
configuration feature for IOS version 11.3. However our routers are
running version 12.0 and doesnt have that feature. Does anyone out
there know what other effective strategies can be used to prevent this
kind of attack on IOS versions other than 11.3? Any input will be
appreciated, thanks.

-Haydn




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RE: Do I need Token Ring routers for CCNP studies? [7:19538]

2001-09-12 Thread Rick Johnson

NOPE


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Re: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick Ramsey

MRTG

http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html

Big Brother

http://bb4.com/


Of course, running these on linux is the way to go :)

-Patrick


 Duncan Stuart  09/12/01 11:24AM 
Hi People,

Can anyone recommend a network monitoring tool that also provides a good
reporting facility.  Most of the monitored technology is Cisco.

regards
Duncan




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Apology RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread John Neiberger

If you've perceived my comments that way then I apologize
wholeheartedly.  I was in *no way* trying to make light of these recent
events and it actually bothers me that you'd think that.  However, I can
easily understand how you might think that so--again--I apologize.

In a strange way, I was attempting to get the types of posts on the
list a little more on-topic.  I feel that posts regarding this attack
are fine since they greatly affect us all on a number of levels. 
However, I didn't feel it was appropriate to start a religious
discussion on the list.  My attempt at humor was an absurd way to
demonstrate that a discussion of God, sin, and consequences of sin on a
list such as this would be fruitless, pointless, and most likely
inflammatory considering the diverse makeup of the list.

Perhaps because religious discussions are one of my hot buttons I
wasn't able to restrain myself from making such an absurd post, but
please do not take it in the wrong way.   I agree that this list is made
up of quite a few professionals and it's precisely that that makes
religious discussion inappropriate.  However, in hindsight I regret
posting that publicly and I'll try to show more restraint in the
future.

Sincerely,
John

 NP-BASS LEON  9/12/01 9:15:30
AM 
I've noticed all the comments being made, but please take five seconds
and
place your wife or your child in one of those planes or buildings, and
I
assure you your comments and thoughts would not be the same. I work a
block
from the Pentagon and I find NO amusement in your comments. Could it
be
because it didn't directly effect you or your family. I almost a very
close
friend and I didn't think that was amusing at all, when I did find her,
she
was covered with smoke and ash, but at least she was alive. I consider
this
page one of highly intelligent professionals, lets keep it that way.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Man, that's going to haunt you forever.  I stole some gum from a store
when I was nine and the world hasn't been the same since!

 Wilson, Bradley  9/12/01 8:20:01 AM 
Damn, I *knew* I shouldn't have stolen that Matchbox car from the toy
store
when I was five.  Sorry people of NYC...my bad.



-Original Message-
From: Robert Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who
is
a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world! 
You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not
expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little
children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts
and
prayers go out to them!!




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RE: OSPF over Frame Relay NBMA [7:19577]

2001-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am using physical interfaces not subinterfaces.  I am purposely using the
physicals instead of doing subs.  Here are the two configs:

3640:
interface Serial0/0
 ip address 1.1.1.6 255.255.255.252
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no fair-queue

router ospf 1
 log-adjacency-changes
 network 1.1.1.4 0.0.0.3 area 0

2610:
interface Serial0/0
 ip address 1.1.1.10 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no ip mroute-cache

router ospf 1
 network 1.1.1.8 0.0.0.3 area 0



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Technical Specialist
Papa John's Corporation
(502) 261-4035




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Re: US Stock [7:19534]

2001-09-12 Thread Rick Johnson

There are things that are a lot more important than cisco.  Too bad it takes
times like these for most of us to realize it.  The fact that anyone would
post anything negative with the state our country is in makes me wonder if
they should even be allowed to live here!  This is America so people can
post what they want, but don't expect people to be happy about it.  And this
is definitely a time when people will be snippy, god forbid anyone be
snippy after the most horrendous tragedy that has ever occurred in this
country.


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A plan to rebuild.... [7:19611]

2001-09-12 Thread John Mairs

I think that we cannot afford to let terrorists think
they have succeeded in destroying a monument that
represents the econonmic success of the United States.

I think it is imperative that we not only rebuild the
two 110 story towers using the exact same set of
blueprints. I think a grassroots effort to encourage
that the two towers be built at a distance one and a
half times the original spacing and a THIRD tower a
150 stories high right in the middle.

I think that by doing this we heal the wounds of the
original towers missing from the Manhattan skyline but
also show the uniquely American gesture of the middle
finger faced eastward defying terrorism in a subtle
but unmistakable fashion.

My 2 cents

=
John L. Mairs

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Re: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]

2001-09-12 Thread Jeff Smith

Jimmy,
I don't see why it would not work on an Ethernet interface when it does on 
FastEthernet, but I don't have one to test on right now.  Give it a shot, it 
should work.

Jeff


From: Jimmy Leong 
Reply-To: Jimmy Leong 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:18:43 -0400

Hi Jeff :

 Currently I am using cisco 4000  with 2 ethernet port ( 10Base T ) ,
interface Ethernet 1 got 3 networks ( 2 secondary IP ) , Interface Ethernet
0 got 1 network. I plan to use sub-interface in interface Ethernet 1 
instaed
of secondary IP. Interface Ethenet is connected to hub.

Some people told me that we can only create sub-interface on FastEthernet
and NOT Ethernet ( 10Base ). Is it true ? What is the minimum IOS version
should I use ?


cheers
Jimmy



 From: Jeff Smith
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:46:02 +
 
 Certainly can.  Used often when routing between vlans when the router is
 external to the switch (non- rsm, msfc, etc)- the old router on a stick
 scenario.
 
 From: Jimmy Leong
 Reply-To: Jimmy Leong
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: sub-interface on Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:19394]
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 06:47:35 -0400
 
 Hi all :
 
  Can anyone enlighten me whether I can create sub-interface on
 Ethernet
 or FastEthernet.
 
 thanks in advance
 
 regards
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Terminal Servers [7:19612]

2001-09-12 Thread Dave Luancing

When my Terminal Server reloads, when it comes back up
and all of the information is scrolling during
startup, all of the information is going out through
the terminal connections. Each router connected to the
terminal server thinks that someone is trying to log
in with an incorrect passwords. When you then try and
console the router it scrolling saying wrong
password for about 10minutes.

Does anyone know how to turn information being fed to
the console lines off during startup or reloads?

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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Allen May

Wy off topic, but since the atheists got their say:

Unbelievable the responses that came from this post.  I agree.  Amazing how
many said not to push religion by pushing atheism right after you mentioned
this.  In a Christian society is is usually the atheists or Satanic cults
that commit the most horrible crimes, not the Christians.  (Timothy McVaugh,
Hitler, most mass murderers of history, etc).  It goes against everything
Christians believe in to do such a thing.  And, I believe the Holy War is
about the only one I can think of in the name of their God.  All others were
over oil, land, expanding an empire, etc.  Saying May God be with us
during war doesn't make it for God.  It's a plea by the soldiers forced into
the conflict by government to save their souls when they are pushed into
commiting acts of murder for their country/government.  Christians have
always had to fight for their right to practice due to others pushing their
beliefs on them  trying to take their freedom of religion away.  All the
while, saying it's bad to push beliefs...hmmm.

My thoughts and prayers go out to those affected.  Clearly most of the world
realizes this was an unspeakable act.  When terrorist leaders condemn the
act, it's bad.


- Original Message -
From: Puckett, Larry (TIFPC) 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


 Funny how it's always Pushing religion is unacceptable but never '
Pushing
 atheism is unacceptable' .
  -Original Message-
 From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]

 pushing religion is pushing the limits of acceptable OT converstaion IMHO

 My deepest sympathy to those affected by this series of atrocities. A few
 weeks ago, a car bomb went off just up the road from my place (West
London),
 and I thought that was a wake up call the scale of this disaster is
just
 incomprehensible.

 Symon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Craig Richardson
 Sent: 11 September 2001 21:08
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


 I know this is off-topic and long, but I'll give it a shot anyway...

 Hello all, and much respect to everyone on this list.
 This is my first time writing to this list (as far as I can remember),
 although
 I have observed it for awhile.  Most topics seem to be out of my Cisco
 range,
 but I do enjoy the information that crosses the list and I do respect
 everyone's
 opinion as their own.  Terrible tragedies have been suffered today, and
many
 lives are now changed forever.  As Priscilla mentioned, the damage to
 families
 is irreparable.  However, to think that if God existed, this incredible
 loss of life
 wouldn't have occurred in the first place, is to say that that the devil
 does not
 exist.  God is very real and He does exist.  Unfortunately, the devil is
 very real also,
 and he does exist.  Many people think that the devil is a mythical figure
 that has
 nothing to do with current events, so they equate God with all of the good
 and the bad
 things.  The fact is, that God does love us all, and it is not his desire
 that anyone of us
 should perish, but we all have an enemy, and that is the devil.  Every
 opportunity he gets,
 he seeks to devour.  God works through his people and He is patient.
 Tragedies do
 occur, but the blame should go to the devil, not God.  When we pray, our
 prayers do make
 a difference as God hears our prayers.  The we that I'm talking about is
 those that believe
 on His son, Jesus Christ.  There is a spiritual war going on that must not
 be overlooked.
 Todays events are part of this war.  The bible says it all.  These are the
 end times that we
 are in.  It is my hope that these tragedies will lead the rest of us to
 realize that we do need a
 saviour, and He is Jesus Christ.  Please check Romans 14:10, 12/Ephesians
 2:8,9/
 Romans 3:23/Romans 6:23/ and Romans 10:9,10.  Also, the book of
Revelations
 tells much
 about the end times (which we've been in for quite some time).  Prayer,
 along with using all
 available opportunities to help (like donating blood), goes a long way.
 Thank you.

 Craig.

 - Original Message -
 From: B.J. Wilson
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:27 PM
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


  Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
incredible
  loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
 rebuilding
  our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.
As
  far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
 sure
  my two friends who live in NYC are okay.  What are you doing besides
  praying?
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Juan Blanco
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
  Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
   Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these 

module failure detection on cisco devices [7:19613]

2001-09-12 Thread Budi Widjojo

Hi all,

How can we detect if there is a module fault on a
cisco device?. Does cisco send a trap message when it
detected a module failure?. If it does, where can get
I more info on it?. 

Actually, i've done a simulation by pulling out the
module from the switch/router. Unfortunately I didn't
receive any trap messages from the device.

Thanks and regards
Budi

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Re: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread Circusnuts

I can only imagine Verizon has lost many CO's just within the World Trade
Center alone.  I know from my CLEC days that it's not all that uncommon to
be disqualified for certain services because of cable distance.  This was
especially frustrating for New York businesses, knowing the local CO was in
the basement of the very building their offices were located.

Phil

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: :-((( [7:19468]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Howard C. Berkowitz
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:43 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]


 snip
 For those of you that don't follow the NANOG list, we may start
 seeing increased network disruption, especially on transatlantic
 links, as carrier facilities in the WTC area run out of fuel for
 their generators. People are guessing 48-70 hours, unless they can
 get more fuel. Verizon had a CO in one of the buildings that
 collapsed.

 CL: in a ghoulish sort of way, this leads back to the single point of
 failure discussion we had the other day.




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Re: sympathy expression [7:19542]

2001-09-12 Thread John Mairs

Hi John,

I think that is a very good point. Well I can only
say, cheer while you can it won't last long.

I was thinking that if enough people told enough
people all over New York and the world for that matter
we could do something unique.

I think that we cannot afford to let terrorists think
they have succeeded in destroying a monument that
represents the econonmic success of the United States.

I think it is imperative that we not only rebuild the
two 110 story towers using the exact same set of
blueprints. I think a grassroots effort to encourage
that the two towers be built at a distance one and a
half times the original spacing and a THIRD tower a
150 stories high right in the middle.

I think that by doing this we heal the wounds of the
original towers missing from the Manhattan skyline but
also show the uniquely American gesture of the middle
finger faced eastward defying terrorism in a subtle
but unmistakable fashion.


John 

--- John Neiberger 
wrote:
 Thanks, Tony.  
 
 Yes, this was very needless but this sort of thing
 happens when you
 combine a radically violent religious movement with
 a lack of education.
  Throw in a lot of brainwashing by their leaders and
 look what you
 getcrowds of Palestinians and Egyptians partying
 in the streets,
 overcome with joy over this event.  Those pictures
 cause even more anger
 in me than the pictures of the attack.  But they're
 too stupid to
 realize that they've successfully galvanized the
 will of America and
 turned us against them.  How idiotic...
 
  Tony van Ree  9/11/01 11:45:26 PM 
 Hi,
 
 I would like express sympathy to those hurt in these
 circumstances.  
 
 What I find really difficult to grasp is, why?'.  I
 can't understand
 any of
 it.  I seems so needless.
 
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RE: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]

2001-09-12 Thread Albert Y. Pak

Micromuse's Netcool Network Management Suite.
http://www.micromuse.com/products/product_information.html

HTH
Albert

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Duncan Stuart
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]


Hi People,

Can anyone recommend a network monitoring tool that also provides a good
reporting facility.  Most of the monitored technology is Cisco.

regards
Duncan




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Re: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread Circusnuts

Chuck- are you sure that wasn't Tony Haskett (worked with Oz @ one time) 
was here on loan from the UK ???

Phil

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: :-((( [7:19468]


 while asking about folks, anyone on this list know Tony Weskit, or have a
 recent e-mail?

 haven't heard from him in several months, but I know at one point he was
 working in the investment industry.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Stephen Skinner
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]


 ...

 we also in the UK fell most appalled by these actions...

 we have lived with this for about 20 yrs ( yes we are trying to solve the
 problem...honest)

 but on no-where near such a large scale.i dont know about everyone
 else  but we are grieving for your losses.

 but let us all hope sanity prevails

 my best wishes go out to all of you.


 i think a role call may be in order ...

 Chuck,John N,Howard,Kev W,EA,tony M,pris,B.ellis.Mr Slow???is
 everyone ok?

 cu

 steve
 From: Rob Bains
 Reply-To: Rob Bains
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: :-((( [7:19468]
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:51:28 -0400
 
 Well;
 
 I'm sure all the words have already been said, but I tried to refuse to
 believe my ears
 when I first woke up to news on the radio this morning.  Unfortunately,
 that
 feeling of
 disbelief was very short-lived since it was all over the media. Although
I
 don't
 personally know anyone from that area, but I feel that innocent lives
have
 have been
 lost, and many others have been affected by that loss for years to come.
 My
 thoughts
 and feelings are with those who survived, and the ones who lost their
loved
 ones. Trust
 me, the emotions were felt all day here in Vancouver, BC (Canada).
Office
 buildings
 were shutdown mid-day.
 
 In closing, I just want to say that no matter what the religion, one
 belongs
 to, these
 are real human beings taken away from fathers, mothers, brothers,
sisters,
 sons, and
 daughters.  That is the issue, period!!
 
 Question:  When will the human race learn to resolve their differences in
 more peaceful
 way???
 
 Hope all is well with those in the middle of this crisis.
 
   Rob
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Thank You Rene, and also Rita.
   I am in shock. There are many people on this list who worked in those
   buildings, and many more with friends and family there.
   I just heard from my first friend who was there and made it home.
   I'm sitting here watching my email and waiting for my phone to ring.
   Besides my friends and associates who are there, I can't help to think
 of
   the thousands and thousands of faces I've past in those hallways,
   escalators, offices, etc.
  
   -Erik Mintz
  
   Rene Schmid writes:
  
best wishes from austria
   
last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york
 and
   wtc
vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack
   
hope  that most of the people are OK
   
Rene
 
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RE: Apology RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread NP-BASS LEON

MY APOLOGY GOES OUT TO EVERYONE, but when they say seeing is believing, I
saw, and maybe I haven't dealt with what I saw yesterday. The religious,
discussions, you are right, this is not the place.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apology RE: US Stock [7:19433]


If you've perceived my comments that way then I apologize
wholeheartedly.  I was in *no way* trying to make light of these recent
events and it actually bothers me that you'd think that.  However, I can
easily understand how you might think that so--again--I apologize.

In a strange way, I was attempting to get the types of posts on the
list a little more on-topic.  I feel that posts regarding this attack
are fine since they greatly affect us all on a number of levels. 
However, I didn't feel it was appropriate to start a religious
discussion on the list.  My attempt at humor was an absurd way to
demonstrate that a discussion of God, sin, and consequences of sin on a
list such as this would be fruitless, pointless, and most likely
inflammatory considering the diverse makeup of the list.

Perhaps because religious discussions are one of my hot buttons I
wasn't able to restrain myself from making such an absurd post, but
please do not take it in the wrong way.   I agree that this list is made
up of quite a few professionals and it's precisely that that makes
religious discussion inappropriate.  However, in hindsight I regret
posting that publicly and I'll try to show more restraint in the
future.

Sincerely,
John

 NP-BASS LEON  9/12/01 9:15:30
AM 
I've noticed all the comments being made, but please take five seconds
and
place your wife or your child in one of those planes or buildings, and
I
assure you your comments and thoughts would not be the same. I work a
block
from the Pentagon and I find NO amusement in your comments. Could it
be
because it didn't directly effect you or your family. I almost a very
close
friend and I didn't think that was amusing at all, when I did find her,
she
was covered with smoke and ash, but at least she was alive. I consider
this
page one of highly intelligent professionals, lets keep it that way.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Man, that's going to haunt you forever.  I stole some gum from a store
when I was nine and the world hasn't been the same since!

 Wilson, Bradley  9/12/01 8:20:01 AM 
Damn, I *knew* I shouldn't have stolen that Matchbox car from the toy
store
when I was five.  Sorry people of NYC...my bad.



-Original Message-
From: Robert Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who
is
a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world! 
You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not
expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little
children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts
and
prayers go out to them!!




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Re: Secure FTP [7:19558]

2001-09-12 Thread Brian

If you're logging into an ssh enabled server, use pscp.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

Bri

- Original Message -
From: Patrick Donlon 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:16 AM
Subject: Secure FTP [7:19558]


 It's a bit off the normal topic but can anyone recommend a decent secure
FTP
 client for windows ?

 Thanks




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Re: Deepest sympathy from Hong Kong [7:19463]

2001-09-12 Thread anyong

Deepest sympathy from Hong Kong.

anyong

Dr Rita Puzmanova  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 ...hope you are all OK there...

 Damn the terrorists :-(((

 Rita




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RE: Apology RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread John Neiberger

I understand completely.  I haven't dealt with it yet, either.  I'm
still in the Maybe I'll wake up tomorrow and find out it didn't really
happen phase.  I was already stressed out enough with other things that
all seem so insignificant now, but I'm just not able to process all that
happened yesterday so quickly.  At one point I had to stop watching TV
last night and just go immerse myself in an adventure game that
completely took my mind off of current events for at least a few
minutes.  I think I was pretty close to my maximum stress level and
needed a brief release.

That also partially explains my attempts at humor.  When I get *really*
stressed my sense of humor tends to kick in inappropriately in an
attempt to deal with whatever is occurring.  It's difficult to work
right now.  I feel like I'm just sitting in a haze and my brain is all
cloudy.

I'm sure many people are feeling like this right now, even moreso the
ones who are directly affected.  I think the goodness of people on this
list is helping all of us digest recent events, and the fact that we're
all in this together and supporting each other will help the healing
process begin perhaps a little sooner.

Regards,
John

 NP-BASS LEON  9/12/01 10:03:07
AM 
MY APOLOGY GOES OUT TO EVERYONE, but when they say seeing is believing,
I
saw, and maybe I haven't dealt with what I saw yesterday. The
religious,
discussions, you are right, this is not the place.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Apology RE: US Stock [7:19433]


If you've perceived my comments that way then I apologize
wholeheartedly.  I was in *no way* trying to make light of these
recent
events and it actually bothers me that you'd think that.  However, I
can
easily understand how you might think that so--again--I apologize.

In a strange way, I was attempting to get the types of posts on the
list a little more on-topic.  I feel that posts regarding this attack
are fine since they greatly affect us all on a number of levels. 
However, I didn't feel it was appropriate to start a religious
discussion on the list.  My attempt at humor was an absurd way to
demonstrate that a discussion of God, sin, and consequences of sin on
a
list such as this would be fruitless, pointless, and most likely
inflammatory considering the diverse makeup of the list.

Perhaps because religious discussions are one of my hot buttons I
wasn't able to restrain myself from making such an absurd post, but
please do not take it in the wrong way.   I agree that this list is
made
up of quite a few professionals and it's precisely that that makes
religious discussion inappropriate.  However, in hindsight I regret
posting that publicly and I'll try to show more restraint in the
future.

Sincerely,
John

 NP-BASS LEON  9/12/01 9:15:30
AM 
I've noticed all the comments being made, but please take five seconds
and
place your wife or your child in one of those planes or buildings, and
I
assure you your comments and thoughts would not be the same. I work a
block
from the Pentagon and I find NO amusement in your comments. Could it
be
because it didn't directly effect you or your family. I almost a very
close
friend and I didn't think that was amusing at all, when I did find
her,
she
was covered with smoke and ash, but at least she was alive. I consider
this
page one of highly intelligent professionals, lets keep it that way.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Man, that's going to haunt you forever.  I stole some gum from a store
when I was nine and the world hasn't been the same since!

 Wilson, Bradley  9/12/01 8:20:01 AM 
Damn, I *knew* I shouldn't have stolen that Matchbox car from the toy
store
when I was five.  Sorry people of NYC...my bad.



-Original Message-
From: Robert Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who
is
a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world! 
You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not
expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little
children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts
and
prayers go out to them!!




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Re: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]

2001-09-12 Thread Brian

Though I haven't used it in a couple years, this is a pretty nice package.
It can be setup to respond to snmp traps, search log files for key events,
its really quite spiffy.

Brian

- Original Message -
From: Albert Y. Pak 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]


 Micromuse's Netcool Network Management Suite.
 http://www.micromuse.com/products/product_information.html

 HTH
 Albert

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Duncan Stuart
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:25 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]


 Hi People,

 Can anyone recommend a network monitoring tool that also provides a good
 reporting facility.  Most of the monitored technology is Cisco.

 regards
 Duncan




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RE: Apology RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Unfortunately, I can't offer the same apology that John does.  My response
was meant to (and did) indicate that blaming this tragedy on sin in the
world is almost worse than diminishing its magnitude through impudence.
Indeed, put yourself or your child or your spouse on that plane or in one of
those buildings, and tell them that there is an all-powerful and all-loving
God that could stop this, but didn't.  Talk about adding insult to injury.

And now back to our regularly scheduled mail list.



-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apology RE: US Stock [7:19433]


If you've perceived my comments that way then I apologize
wholeheartedly.  I was in *no way* trying to make light of these recent
events and it actually bothers me that you'd think that.  However, I can
easily understand how you might think that so--again--I apologize.

In a strange way, I was attempting to get the types of posts on the
list a little more on-topic.  I feel that posts regarding this attack
are fine since they greatly affect us all on a number of levels. 
However, I didn't feel it was appropriate to start a religious
discussion on the list.  My attempt at humor was an absurd way to
demonstrate that a discussion of God, sin, and consequences of sin on a
list such as this would be fruitless, pointless, and most likely
inflammatory considering the diverse makeup of the list.

Perhaps because religious discussions are one of my hot buttons I
wasn't able to restrain myself from making such an absurd post, but
please do not take it in the wrong way.   I agree that this list is made
up of quite a few professionals and it's precisely that that makes
religious discussion inappropriate.  However, in hindsight I regret
posting that publicly and I'll try to show more restraint in the
future.

Sincerely,
John

 NP-BASS LEON  9/12/01 9:15:30
AM 
I've noticed all the comments being made, but please take five seconds
and
place your wife or your child in one of those planes or buildings, and
I
assure you your comments and thoughts would not be the same. I work a
block
from the Pentagon and I find NO amusement in your comments. Could it
be
because it didn't directly effect you or your family. I almost a very
close
friend and I didn't think that was amusing at all, when I did find her,
she
was covered with smoke and ash, but at least she was alive. I consider
this
page one of highly intelligent professionals, lets keep it that way.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Man, that's going to haunt you forever.  I stole some gum from a store
when I was nine and the world hasn't been the same since!

 Wilson, Bradley  9/12/01 8:20:01 AM 
Damn, I *knew* I shouldn't have stolen that Matchbox car from the toy
store
when I was five.  Sorry people of NYC...my bad.



-Original Message-
From: Robert Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who
is
a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world! 
You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not
expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little
children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts
and
prayers go out to them!!




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Re: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]

2001-09-12 Thread Brian

Good way to limit syn floods, nice..

Bri

- Original Message -
From: Kent Hundley 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]


 Go to http://www.cisco.com/go/fn and search for TCP intercept.

 HTH,
 Kent

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Haydn Solomon
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]


 Hi all,

 I was recently reading an article on ciscos site about strategies for
 preventing denial of service attacks. They mentioned the ip intercept
 configuration feature for IOS version 11.3. However our routers are
 running version 12.0 and doesnt have that feature. Does anyone out
 there know what other effective strategies can be used to prevent this
 kind of attack on IOS versions other than 11.3? Any input will be
 appreciated, thanks.

 -Haydn




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RE: sympathy expression [7:19542]

2001-09-12 Thread Buri, Heather L.

Well said John!  I agree the pictures of the people rejoicing anger me more
than the attack.  To think that anyone could be happy over human loss and
suffering is repulsive to me.  

Heather

 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:31 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: sympathy expression [7:19542]
 
 Thanks, Tony.  
 
 Yes, this was very needless but this sort of thing happens when you
 combine a radically violent religious movement with a lack of education.
  Throw in a lot of brainwashing by their leaders and look what you
 getcrowds of Palestinians and Egyptians partying in the streets,
 overcome with joy over this event.  Those pictures cause even more anger
 in me than the pictures of the attack.  But they're too stupid to
 realize that they've successfully galvanized the will of America and
 turned us against them.  How idiotic...
 
  Tony van Ree  9/11/01 11:45:26 PM 
 Hi,
 
 I would like express sympathy to those hurt in these circumstances.  
 
 What I find really difficult to grasp is, why?'.  I can't understand
 any of
 it.  I seems so needless.
 
 Teunis 
 
 
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Re: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Allen May

Yes.  I don't know many people who wouldn't defend their country right now.
The entire country seems to be pulled together more now than ever in
history.  Surely, justice is in order.  I just hope it's not taken too far
and is limited to being taken out on those responsible.

Also, for any country to celebrate such a tragic loss of innocent life is
just as horrific as the act itself to me.  The people in those buildings and
on those planes had nothing to do with the government decisions made in the
past.

- Original Message -
From: McCallum, Robert 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


 Absolutely tragic, the biggest fear now is how will the US retaliate to
 this, this could become very nasty

 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 11 September 2001 18:46
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


 We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding families
 (if that can even be done??)

 Priscilla

 At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
 since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
number
 of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
 probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in terms
of
 investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get things
 straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into planning,
into
 corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
 
 yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
eventually
 mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
 survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from scratch,
I
 would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
 sarcastically.
 
 this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
weak
 as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
 
 hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in that
 area are ok.
 
 Chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 sparkest pig
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
 
 
 Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
 Defense funding go up?  would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
 
 
 
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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Hitler was Catholic, and claims in Mein Kampf that my conduct is in
accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

 


-Original Message-
From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


Wy off topic, but since the atheists got their say:

Unbelievable the responses that came from this post.  I agree.  Amazing how
many said not to push religion by pushing atheism right after you mentioned
this.  In a Christian society is is usually the atheists or Satanic cults
that commit the most horrible crimes, not the Christians.  (Timothy McVaugh,
Hitler, most mass murderers of history, etc).  It goes against everything
Christians believe in to do such a thing.  And, I believe the Holy War is
about the only one I can think of in the name of their God.  All others were
over oil, land, expanding an empire, etc.  Saying May God be with us
during war doesn't make it for God.  It's a plea by the soldiers forced into
the conflict by government to save their souls when they are pushed into
commiting acts of murder for their country/government.  Christians have
always had to fight for their right to practice due to others pushing their
beliefs on them  trying to take their freedom of religion away.  All the
while, saying it's bad to push beliefs...hmmm.

My thoughts and prayers go out to those affected.  Clearly most of the world
realizes this was an unspeakable act.  When terrorist leaders condemn the
act, it's bad.


- Original Message -
From: Puckett, Larry (TIFPC) 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]


 Funny how it's always Pushing religion is unacceptable but never '
Pushing
 atheism is unacceptable' .
  -Original Message-
 From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]

 pushing religion is pushing the limits of acceptable OT converstaion IMHO

 My deepest sympathy to those affected by this series of atrocities. A few
 weeks ago, a car bomb went off just up the road from my place (West
London),
 and I thought that was a wake up call the scale of this disaster is
just
 incomprehensible.

 Symon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Craig Richardson
 Sent: 11 September 2001 21:08
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


 I know this is off-topic and long, but I'll give it a shot anyway...

 Hello all, and much respect to everyone on this list.
 This is my first time writing to this list (as far as I can remember),
 although
 I have observed it for awhile.  Most topics seem to be out of my Cisco
 range,
 but I do enjoy the information that crosses the list and I do respect
 everyone's
 opinion as their own.  Terrible tragedies have been suffered today, and
many
 lives are now changed forever.  As Priscilla mentioned, the damage to
 families
 is irreparable.  However, to think that if God existed, this incredible
 loss of life
 wouldn't have occurred in the first place, is to say that that the devil
 does not
 exist.  God is very real and He does exist.  Unfortunately, the devil is
 very real also,
 and he does exist.  Many people think that the devil is a mythical figure
 that has
 nothing to do with current events, so they equate God with all of the good
 and the bad
 things.  The fact is, that God does love us all, and it is not his desire
 that anyone of us
 should perish, but we all have an enemy, and that is the devil.  Every
 opportunity he gets,
 he seeks to devour.  God works through his people and He is patient.
 Tragedies do
 occur, but the blame should go to the devil, not God.  When we pray, our
 prayers do make
 a difference as God hears our prayers.  The we that I'm talking about is
 those that believe
 on His son, Jesus Christ.  There is a spiritual war going on that must not
 be overlooked.
 Todays events are part of this war.  The bible says it all.  These are the
 end times that we
 are in.  It is my hope that these tragedies will lead the rest of us to
 realize that we do need a
 saviour, and He is Jesus Christ.  Please check Romans 14:10, 12/Ephesians
 2:8,9/
 Romans 3:23/Romans 6:23/ and Romans 10:9,10.  Also, the book of
Revelations
 tells much
 about the end times (which we've been in for quite some time).  Prayer,
 along with using all
 available opportunities to help (like donating blood), goes a long way.
 Thank you.

 Craig.

 - Original Message -
 From: B.J. Wilson
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:27 PM
 Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]


  Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
incredible
  loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place.  Part of
 rebuilding
  our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.
As
  far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and 

Re: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread Bruce Evry

Dear Friends,

There have always been those who destroy things and there are
always those who build and rebuild.

We, on this list, are builders. Together we have built the
networks of computers that have linked our world together in a way that
even a few years ago would have seemed impossible.

Those who destroy always have some self-justified rationalization
for why what they are doing is right. That is what makes them most
dangerous. Evil always thinks it is righteous.

Those who build do not need such excuses. We build and what we do
makes the world a better place.

Yes, what we do is to configure routers and switches. What those
routers and switches do is to allow people from all over the world to
trade E-mails offering sympathy and hope in times of disaster. It allows
us to share knowledge and dreams so that we can build better tomorrow.

So let us do what we do best, get back to routing and switching.
Sometimes we may not realize it, but the world depends on us

Yours Truly - Bruce Evry


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 Thank-you to all of you around the world who sent such nice messages! It's
 been great to hear from people from other countries.

 All of us need to concentrate on spreading peace and love in the world at
 this time.

 Well, we better get back to routers and switches now.

 Priscilla

 At 07:11 PM 9/11/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What news to wake up to.
 Sympathy and condolences from Australia.
 To hope that everyone is OK is obviously futile - but I hope the loss of
 life and injury toll is far less than expected.
 
 JMcL
 - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 12/09/2001 08:50 am -
 
 
 
 erikalbert@n
  ac.net  To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   best wishes from austria
  
   last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york
and
 wtc
   vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack
  
   hope  that most of the people are OK
  
   Rene
 

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 http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick

WhatsupGold has pretty good reporting capabilites.  It's not free, but it
relatively cheap, and pretty mature at $ 1000.00 bucks now, and comes with
advantage of providing a bit of tech support.  Check below:
http://www.whatsupgold.com/Products/WhatsUp/index.html

Duncan Stuart  wrote in message
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 Hi People,

 Can anyone recommend a network monitoring tool that also provides a good
 reporting facility.  Most of the monitored technology is Cisco.

 regards
 Duncan




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Re: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1 [7:19631]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick

Drew, I didn't see a reply to this so sorry if it answered somewhere else.
No, you will just configure the timeslots on the physical interface.  Good
luck, hope you aren't turning up with Sprint! (Please don't assault me,
Sprint people - nothing personal).

Ole Drews Jensen  wrote in message
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 I am now on unknown territory, where no man in my shoes has walked before.

 I have a Frame Relay scenario being setup, and my host router has just
 received the green light from the provider.

 The Frame Relay host uses 12 channels, and connects on three PVC's to
three
 branch offices, each with 4 channels.

 I searched and found the answer on how to setup the channels on cisco's
 site:

 router(config-if)#service-module t1 timeslots 1-12

 but will I have to do that for my three sub interfaces also?

 Example:

 router(config)#int s0/0
 router(config-if)#service-module t1 timeslots 1-12

 router(config-if)#int s0/0.101 point-to-point
 router(config-subif)#frame-relay interface-dlci 101
 router(config-subif)#service-module t1 timeslots 1-4
 router(config-subif)#int s0/0.102 point-to-point
 router(config-subif)#frame-relay interface-dlci 102
 router(config-subif)#service-module t1 timeslots 5-8
 router(config-subif)#int s0/0.103 point-to-point
 router(config-subif)#frame-relay interface-dlci 103
 router(config-subif)#service-module t1 timeslots 9-12

 Thanks and have a great weekend,

 Ole

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Re: Network monitoring tools [7:19597]

2001-09-12 Thread Dennis H

Castlerocks SNMPc is one of the best tools I've found for the money



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 Hi People,

 Can anyone recommend a network monitoring tool that also provides a good
 reporting facility.  Most of the monitored technology is Cisco.

 regards
 Duncan




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Re: To All My Brothers and Sisters on this List !!! [7:19561]

2001-09-12 Thread Dennis H

As an American I'd like to thank you for your kind words.  I couldn't agree
with your more.  God bless to you, your family, and all our other brothers
and sisters in India!



Raees Ahmed Shaikh  wrote in message
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 To All My Brothers and Sisters on this List  and in America,

 I am an Indian and I would like to express my condolences to all my
brothers
 and sisters of groupstudy and the whole American people with whom I have
 been exchanging brilliant ideas and advises over the past couple of months
 now.  I am not able to express my sorrow over this tragic and inhuman
 activity which certainly is bad in each and all aspect of religion, race
and
 laws.

 We all are humans first and we follow one religion  which is humanity.  If
 we fail to comply with this religion of humanity we are not qualified for
 being part of any religion on earth.

 I express my sincere gratitude towards all of them who have lost their
loved
 ones and pray for the souls of the Lost to be in peace and under God's
 mercy.

   India is been under a crisis earlier in this year when there was a
 tremendous big earthquake in India which shattered many of the lives and
had
 left a big impact on the hearts and minds of all Indians. We are thankful
to
 the whole world for supporting us in bad times. I wonder if the whole
world
 could be like in a virtual community like groupstudy where we forget
 race,religion and culture and work on one mission which is Peace and
 Happiness.

 Peace,

 Raees

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Re: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread John Neiberger

Wow.  I think I'll be saving this email for a while.  Thanks...

 Bruce Evry  9/12/01 10:44:01 AM 
Dear Friends,

There have always been those who destroy things and there are
always those who build and rebuild.

We, on this list, are builders. Together we have built the
networks of computers that have linked our world together in a way
that
even a few years ago would have seemed impossible.

Those who destroy always have some self-justified
rationalization
for why what they are doing is right. That is what makes them most
dangerous. Evil always thinks it is righteous.

Those who build do not need such excuses. We build and what we
do
makes the world a better place.

Yes, what we do is to configure routers and switches. What
those
routers and switches do is to allow people from all over the world to
trade E-mails offering sympathy and hope in times of disaster. It
allows
us to share knowledge and dreams so that we can build better tomorrow.

So let us do what we do best, get back to routing and
switching.
Sometimes we may not realize it, but the world depends on us

Yours Truly - Bruce Evry


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 Thank-you to all of you around the world who sent such nice messages!
It's
 been great to hear from people from other countries.

 All of us need to concentrate on spreading peace and love in the
world at
 this time.

 Well, we better get back to routers and switches now.

 Priscilla

 At 07:11 PM 9/11/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What news to wake up to.
 Sympathy and condolences from Australia.
 To hope that everyone is OK is obviously futile - but I hope the
loss of
 life and injury toll is far less than expected.
 
 JMcL
 - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 12/09/2001 08:50 am
-
 
 
 
 erikalbert@n
  ac.net  To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   best wishes from austria
  
   last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new
york
and
 wtc
   vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack
  
   hope  that most of the people are OK
  
   Rene
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: US Stock [7:19534]

2001-09-12 Thread Patrick

I hate to post this, but yes, Cisco is the topic of this discussion list.
This is not a religious discussion group, there are plenty of those out
there, so if that's what you want, go for it.  There is nothing wrong with
posting sympathies, but that fact that people (colleagues) choose to get
snippy at  a time like this makes me wonder about human behavior in general.
Rick Johnson  wrote in message
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 OUCH, that is a nasty sentiment.  You need to get a better attitude.
Cisco
 is not a religion, sounds like you need to find some.




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RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:19528]

2001-09-12 Thread Jonathan Chapman

Hi Tariq, 

Yes please do mail me any interesting info you may have on the written
exam.  I am due to sit it at the end of next week.

Thanks in advance

Regards

JonathanJames liu007 wrote:
 
 Hello Everybody.
 
 I am preparing for CCIE Exam. I have lot of CCIE resources for
 CCIE written
 exam and I would like to share these resources with all CCIE
 candidates...
 If you are interested then please let me know.
 
 Thanks
 
 Tariq
 
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ARPing - is this right? ver.2 [7:19636]

2001-09-12 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Thank you everyone for your help.  I've tried to incorporate people's
comments, let's see if I got it right now...


A host compares the IP address and subnet mask of the desired destination
with its own IP address and subnet mask to determine if it the traffic is
local, or if it is to be sent to the default gateway.   Remember that if the
MAC address of the default gateway is not known, it will follow the ARP
process to obtain it.

If the traffic is local the host looks at the ARP cache, an index of
recently acquired IP-to-MAC address combinations.  If the appropriate
address is there, communication is established.

If the IP address is not in the local ARP table, the source host will send
an ARP request packet containing the Network-layer address, seeking to be
resolve it to a MAC address for the desired destination. All hosts on the
network receive this request, but only the host with the specified network
address will respond.  If present and functioning, the host with the
specified address responds with an ARP Reply packet containing its MAC
address.  The originating device receives the ARP Reply packet, stores the
local data link address in its ARP cache for future use, and begins
exchanging packets with the host.

If the host is not on the local network, AND the originating device doesn't
realize that to be the case, AND the router on the local network is
configured to perform Proxy ARP (Cisco default), the router will look up the
network address in its route table and if it finds it, return the MAC
address of its local interface to the ARP-ing source station.  While
unusual, that can happen, depending on the host's OS version, if the user
forgets to configure a default gateway, or configures the device with its
own address as the default gateway.  This can cause a station to ARP for
every unknown address, local or not.

Let me know any thoughts, and thank you in advance for your assistance...

--- Dennis

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ARPing - is this right? [7:19489]


At 06:42 PM 9/11/01, John Neiberger wrote:
I think that's basically it, but I'd add two modifications.

At the beginning of the process, I always find it helpful to mention
why a station would initiate an ARP request in the first place.  By
comparing the IP address of the destination with its own IP address and
subnet mask, it will know whether it needs to initiate an ARP request or
send the packet to the default gateway.

Great addition and one more minor one. The station may have to ARP for the 
default gateway if it doesn't already have the MAC address for the default 
gateway.

I know that you know that, I
just like to make it clear when I'm explaining it to someone else.

As for that last step about the router returning its own MAC address
for destinations not on the local subnet, this is true only if proxy ARP

Yes, I'm glad you added that. It's important to mention that proxy ARP is 
an extension to the normal behavior of ARP. Proxy ARP is sometimes called 
the ARP hack. ;-) It's become accepted as normal because Cisco routers have 
done it by default for so many years, but it's really kind of weird.

is turned on AND if the originating device doesn't realize that the end
station is not on the same local network.

We've had this discussion before!? ;-) Depending on the OS and the version 
of the OS, forgetting to configure a default gateway causes a station to 
ARP for everything. Also, in some versions of OSs, configuring the gateway 
with your own address causes the station to ARP for everything.

Nice job, Dennis.

Priscilla

  If the originating device
knows that the destination device is not on the local subnet, it wil not
send a broadcast ARP.  It will send a unicast packet to the default
gateway.

Regards,
John

  Dennis Laganiere  9/11/01 4:17:50 PM
 
I'm trying to describe the ARPing process.  It something I've always
taken
for granted, but now I'm trying to actually write it down.  Let me know
your
thoughts...

When a workstation attempts to communicate with an IP address it
follows
this process:

IP devices maintain an ARP cache that store any recently acquired
IP-to-MAC
address combinations.  If the appropriate address is there,
communication is
established.

If the IP address is not in the local ARP table, the source host will
send
an ARP request packet containing the Network-layer address, seeking to
be
resolve it to a MAC-layer address for the desired destination.

All hosts on the network receive this request, but only the host with
the
specified network address will respond.  If present and functioning,
the
host with the specified address responds with an ARP Reply packet
containing
its MAC-layer address.  The originating device receives the ARP Reply
packet, stores the MAC/IP address combination its ARP cache for future
use,
and begins exchanging packets with the host.

If the 

Re: Secure FTP [7:19558]

2001-09-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I haven't tried it but I just learned about a cool product called Secure 
FTP. It was developed by the San Diego Supercomputer Center who has been 
involved in the Internet since its inception and probably did a good job 
with this product.

It requires Java 2 runtime. I don't know if that would be a problem.

See here:

http://security.sdsc.edu/software/secureftp/

Priscilla


At 09:16 AM 9/12/01, you wrote:
It's a bit off the normal topic but can anyone recommend a decent secure FTP
client for windows ?

Thanks


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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HSRP/Spanning Tree issue??? [7:19639]

2001-09-12 Thread TRAISTER, BLAKE (SBCI)

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I have 2 Cisco 7200s, with 3 interfaces.  We will call them
routerleft and routerright.  They are connected via their ethernet
interfaces to 2 switches:  Catalyst 3548XLs, switchleft and
switchright.  The switches are divided into 3 vlans each:  vlan1,
vlan2, vlan3.  The switches are connected via their Gi ports
(essentially to mirror each other.

So

Router right fa1/0 goes to switchright:port 1, vlan 1, fa 1/1 to port
1, vlan2 (port 17), and fa 2/1 to port 1, vlan3 (port 33).
Router left fa1/0 goes to switchleft:port 1, vlan 1, fa 1/1 to port
1, vlan2 (port 17), and fa 2/1 to port 1, vlan3 (port 33).

Each router interface is running HSRP...so routerright fa 1/0 is hsrp
with router left fa 1/0 and so on with each interface

Router right interfaces have priority preempt set to 120 and router
left has priority preempt 100

We are doing just fine until I plug router right into the switch
right interfacesObviously there is a spanning tree loops and
ports start blocking.

So then...I turn off spanning tree in all vlansand the hsrp
starts flapping.every 2 minutes or so there is a 30 second state
change...

Is there some way I can get the routers to shut up...let one be
active the other be standby and still have everything connected?  I
currently do it with Extreme Summit 48s..spanning tree is completely
offand its works fine...

Thanks!

Blake

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RE: :-((( [7:19468]

2001-09-12 Thread martijn michiel

Condoleances. This is a major tragedy. Not for the steel or the concreet, 
but the brothers, sisters, sons and daughters, fathers and mothers that died 
so ..

Martijn Jansen
from holland (Netherlands)

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best wishes from austria

last week i have configured a serial connection between wtc new york and wtc
vienna and today i'm very sad about this terrorist attack

hope  that most of the people are OK

Rene
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Question about CCIE lab [7:19640]

2001-09-12 Thread Raul F. Fernandez-WCOMM

All,

If you have a lab set and payed for and are with the 28 day limit for
cancellation can you still change the date to a later time?

Thanks in advance,

Raul




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any CCIP studying material [7:19641]

2001-09-12 Thread RANMA

Any body has CCIP study material , powerpoint ?
Would you mind mailing to me ?

Thanks




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RE: US Stock [7:19433]

2001-09-12 Thread NP-BASS LEON

I've noticed all the comments being made, but please take five seconds and
place your wife or your child in one of those planes or buildings, and I
assure you your comments and thoughts would not be the same. I work a block
from the Pentagon and I find NO amusement in your comments. Could it be
because it didn't directly effect you or your family. I almost a very close
friend and I didn't think that was amusing at all, when I did find her, she
was covered with smoke and ash, but at least she was alive. I consider this
page one of highly intelligent professionals, lets keep it that way.

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Man, that's going to haunt you forever.  I stole some gum from a store
when I was nine and the world hasn't been the same since!

 Wilson, Bradley  9/12/01 8:20:01 AM 
Damn, I *knew* I shouldn't have stolen that Matchbox car from the toy
store
when I was five.  Sorry people of NYC...my bad.



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Well, since you guys bring it up,  coming from this net engineer who is
a
christian evangelist as well
God is real and these instances happen because of sin in the world! 
You
cannot expect to 
live in a society where sin and rebellion abounds so much and not
expect
some drastic
consequences...  But what a great loss especially to all the little
children
who lost mommies and daddies!!!  To all those lost our hearts
and
prayers go out to them!!




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