1603R Crash No Console Access [7:20049]
> hello everone, > > After an upgrade of Ios and Dram (kingston) on a 1603 R router by one of our guys, > the > router crash and i cannot getinto the router the console is not > responding > the back led is showing ok the link led is ok BUT the front led is > blingking > countinously , sometimes 7 , 8 or in the begiinnng v fast then stays > blinking > > i ve tried to xmodem the new ios but no luck > also search on cco and still but nothing > > does anyone has clue > > > > Best Regards > > Have A Good Day!! > > *** > Farhan Ahmed* > MCSE+I, MCP Win2k, CCDA, CCNA, CSE > Network Engineer > Mideast Data Systems Abudhabi Uae. > > *** > > > > Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or > Attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer > do > not consent to Internet email for messages of this > kind.Opinions,Conclusions > and other information in this message that do not relate to the Official > business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor > Endorsed > by it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20049&t=20049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20041]
are you sure your second flash is ok? can you boot router with only second flash? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20050&t=20041 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]
You point to c:\program files\common files\deterministic network\DNE\dne.sys in stead of c:\i386 when you install the VPN client. This is a known problem with IBM T20/21 machines. Regards Jon Gudmundsson -Original Message- From: George Kallingal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13. september 2001 21:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858] I have a question about the Cisco VPN Client software and how it binds its driver to a network card. We have an NT server that we are connecting to a remote network using the Cisco VPN Client (to a Concentrator 3000, I believe). Upon connection through the VPN, I lose connectivity to the other servers on the local network. Is there a way to maintain the local area connection while connected over VPN? I tried to multi-home the server and unbind the DNE driver for one network card, but that just disabled the network card. Has anyone experienced this before? Are there any workarounds? Fixes? Or does this require a call to Cisco TAC? Thanks. George Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20051&t=19858 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
Guys- I read your post yesterday & thought about a little overnight... I don't have a clue where you're coming from. Undoubtedly- Cisco is proud of their LFH60/ Serial interfaces (but the need still exists) & when I hear someone referring a T-1 access, I giggle picturing stoking a fire with dollar bills. Having said this, I work in one of the largest Enterprise networks in the world. We have OC- everything, a lot of Frame, DLSW projects up the wazoo (replacing mainframe X.25) & @ last count just over 12,000 Cisco routers & switches. I work in the engineering department & we deal with some pretty OK stuff. I've also worked @ a CLEC for a year & feel very comfortable with how that world lives (on their butts with a cup of coffee :o) I have been ordering DS-3's these past 2 weeks & know that a lot hasn't changed since I left the CLEC business. I say all this to qualify that I don't live & work in a vacuum. The topics you have mentioned are very valid & if you have an opportunity to look @ the past Networkers presentations, you'll get Cisco's spin on the future. I think what you brought up does represent what we are seeing (yes managed survice is getting better & available in more areas). What you are supposing though- is that Telco's are going to modernize sooner than say a Cisco can react, assuming they have no view into the future. We have H.323 because it's what we have to work with. We have MPLS because ATM circuits are what we have to work with. We have VPN's because the wide open Internet is all some companies can afford & Frame is very slow in the Southwestern areas (TouchAmerica POP's). We have NAT because of IPV4, & we have fiber going into housing developments because they were built where facilities do not exist (it's called PairGain & it's only good for phones & 144 IDSL services) Again- you've made valid points, I just don't think it's going to come upon us like a thief in the night. Phil - Original Message - From: "Patrick Ramsey" To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] > preach on brother! > > I would have to agree with everything you said. Like I have posted before, > we were an extreme shop before we went cisco. (political BS) I have never > loved a piece of gear so much than the purple packet pushers we had in > house! :) > > Telcos are already running fiber into subdivisions and aprtmnt complexes. > More and more sonet services are being deployed. And with WDM advancing > like it has, serial connectivity will be a thing of the past! > > -Patrick > > >>> "Robert Hanley" 09/14/01 06:10PM >>> > What a load of cisco bigotry crap! Thank god for you > guys who know better, huh? Even the folks at cisco > call this nonsense "drinking the kool-aid" for gods > sake. At least they don't believe their own marketing > BS. Normally I wouldn't even reply to such a post, but > Ive got some residual anger to vent. > > > Do yourselves a favor and wake up to the fact that > there are lots of companies out there who make gear > thats just as good if not better in many cases than > cisco's. What are you going to do when all your old T1 > circuits are replaced by optical networks? Have you > honestly looked at the market share cisco has in > optical networking? Do you understand the products > offered by the different vendors? > > > I've got news for you folks, the skills you are all > trying so hard to master are already yesterdays news! > > > There is a whole new wave of networking technologies > being deployed right under your noses that will > totally change the way companies run their networking > departments. Most enterprises in the future will > outsource their MANs and WANs to managed service > providers (running Nortel gear in many cases...horror > of horrors) who will hand off an ethernet link at the > customer premises. This will go into an L2/L3 switch, > not "a router" as such (running EIGRP of course, so no > other vendor's gear can be used). This will provider > higher speed links at lower costs while flattening the > MAN/WAN and eliminating a whole layer of storing and > forwarding (read: L3 software based router). > > > The L2/L3 LAN switching market has become so > commoditized that the profit margins are slim to > non-existent. The Catalyst switches are based on dated > technology, and cannot deliver wire speed throughput > while doing anything more than straight L2 (hence the > "3-layer heirarchical model" a marketing exercise, NOT > an engineering one, the whole point of switching was > to flatten networks). Cisco will have to buy an > established vendor (probably Extreme) in order to > compete, since they've written down all the R&D they > were doing along with their fledgling (CLEC) carrier > business. > > > That is why companies like Nortel are not even trying > to compete in the conventional router market. Their > R&D resources have all gone into next generation > equipment that surpas
Re: VOIP problem on two differrent router [7:760]
You have to configure the same codec on both router example: dial-peer voice 2 voip codec g711ulaw ""rajeevbharadwaj"" schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Dear Hieu, > Yes it can be because of mismatch of cisco ios. > Try using same version ob both the routers. It should work. > I too faced the same problem. > > Regards > > Rajeev > > Hieu Truong wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I currently use two Cisco router 2611 with IOS: 12.0(3)T3, VIC 2 ports E&M. > > The VoIP works fine on these two one. Now I replace one of the Cisco 2611 > by > > Cisco 3662 version 12.1(2a)XH, and restore the configuration from C2611 to > > C3662. All the setting for C3662 is the same as the previous C2611. However > > the > > VoIP can not work. After the dial, I got the strangely sound. > > > > Does anyone of you have experienced of this? Does it cause by different > IOS? > > > > Thnks. > > > > -- > > Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name > of rajeevbharadwaj.vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20053&t=760 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20036]
In a message dated 9/14/01 9:55:04 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Subj: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20036] Date: 9/14/01 9:55:04 PM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert Y. Pak) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert Y. Pak) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I am able to boot Cisco 2502 with 1 x 8MB flash. However, as soon as I install a second 8MB flash (empty), the router hangs at System Bootstrap (Version 11.0(10c)XB1). + doesn't work either. These 2 8MB flash are identical. Please advise, Albert Try upgrading your boot proms. My .02c, Rob H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20054&t=20036 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Making a Difference [7:20055]
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OT - CCIE Written class - it worked [7:20056]
I meant to send this out the first day I got back in town, but events overtook me... We held our first class for the "CCIE Written" at the CCBootCamp facility in Detroit last week and had a 100% pass rate. The most important factor was the quality of the attendees; first-class Network Engineers who had already completed the CCNP exams and had a solid understanding of current technologies. Where I think the class was able to help was by providing a solid footing with the older technologies that few people see anymore in production, but that are a major element of this particular exam. We were also able to spend as much time as necessary drilling on the different topics to make sure everyone was ready to go when they sat down to take the exam. CCBootCamp and I would like to hold more sessions, perhaps next time in Los Angeles. I'm spending the next few weeks tweaking and updating the documentation, but I'd be ready to do it again sometime in October. If you're interested in joining us, you can contact me directly or get more information from: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/writtenclass.html Thanks... --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20056&t=20056 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Making a Difference [7:20055]
You should know better than to perpetuate a chain letterof ANY kindgeee Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20057&t=20055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - CCIE Written class - it worked [7:20056]
As one of the students in this session my advice to anyone planning on taking the CCIE Written exam is, TAKE THIS CLASS. This is a well thought out course that fills in the gaps, the emphasis is on material you will not have seen preparing for the CCNA-CCNP exams. The book is well written and Dennis is a great instructor. I can not overstate how great this was. Philip Jache Sports Illustrated Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20059&t=20056 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20036]
Are they 2500 Series FLASH sticks or the identical looking 2600/3600/4000 style ??? You can use 2500 series FLASH is most routers, but not the other way around. Phil - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20036] > In a message dated 9/14/01 9:55:04 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > Date: 9/14/01 9:55:04 PM Central Daylight Time > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert Y. Pak) > Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert Y. Pak) > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi All, > I am able to boot Cisco 2502 with 1 x 8MB flash. However, as soon as I > install a second 8MB flash (empty), the router hangs at System Bootstrap > (Version 11.0(10c)XB1). + doesn't work either. These 2 8MB flash > are identical. > Please advise, > Albert > > Try upgrading your boot proms. > My .02c, > Rob H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20060&t=20036 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back [7:20061]
Hello groupstudy, The problem is that when I configure and no shut the interfaces they just bounce between up and down every few seconds. I can put up a "loopback diagnostic" and ping each interface ok. I have connected a 3640 and a 2600 each with an ATM OC3 card back to back. I suspect I have not installed the two multimode fiber cables properly. I have searched CCO but can't find instructions for cabling the back to back configuration. I am using Caslow's book for the ATM configuration. I just read in the ATM section of the All-In-One CCIE Lab Study Guide about using one fiber cable for the back to back config vs. two cables to a switch but which cable to which jack?? I won't have access to my lab again until Monday or I'd be cable swapping right now. If anyone has any info on this I would greatly appreciate hearing from you... TIA, Tom -- Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE CCIE Candidate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20061&t=20061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DIAL Backup of Wireless VLAN [7:20058]
Hi all I want help regarding my scenario which is as follows. I have one central and tow remote sites. Both two remote sites are connected with central through Wireless Ethernet Bridge (high speed). At Central site Ethernet cable from both Wireless Bridge are connected to switch and Cisco 2620 is used for routing between 3 different VLAN ( two for remote and one for central). So at central site I have 3 sub interface on Fast Ethernet each having IP address of separate net. I also require Sync Dial Backup for each remote site. So I placed one 1601 and Sync dialup modem on each remote site and dialup modems at central connected with sync port of 2620. But I can't understand how to configure online (automatic) backup because if any of wireless link will break or down, Ethernet ports will not down and dialer will not initiate. Also for manual backup, if I manually dial to central site from any remote site then after connected to central, I have same IP net on both site of link, it means Ethernet port of 1601 and fast Ethernet port of 2620 have Ethernet IP from same net. Can anybody guide me how I run my main links on Wireless Ethernet Bridge and backup link on dialup with routers? Network diagram of my setup is at http://www.geocities.com/khurrums/ Regards Khurrum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20058&t=20058 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
If you are anywhere near atlanta, you're already witnessing this. From one road to another...1,000's of strands being pulled. Bellsouth has the man holes open every other day. And red clay lines the sides of the streets. Like the traffic wasn't bad enough as it is! >>> "Chuck Larrieu" 09/14/01 21:15 PM >>> oh good, we can look forward to our streets being torn up for the next umpteen years while the telcos and bypass carriers go through this again glad I telecommute. Traffic otta be real good while this goes on. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick Ramsey Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] preach on brother! I would have to agree with everything you said. Like I have posted before, we were an extreme shop before we went cisco. (political BS) I have never loved a piece of gear so much than the purple packet pushers we had in house! :) Telcos are already running fiber into subdivisions and aprtmnt complexes. More and more sonet services are being deployed. And with WDM advancing like it has, serial connectivity will be a thing of the past! -Patrick >>> "Robert Hanley" 09/14/01 06:10PM >>> What a load of cisco bigotry crap! Thank god for you guys who know better, huh? Even the folks at cisco call this nonsense "drinking the kool-aid" for gods sake. At least they don't believe their own marketing BS. Normally I wouldn't even reply to such a post, but Ive got some residual anger to vent. Do yourselves a favor and wake up to the fact that there are lots of companies out there who mae gear thats just as good if not better in many cases than cisco's. What are you going to do when all your old T1 circuits are replaced by optical networks? Have you honestly looked at the market share cisco has in optical networking? Do you understand the products offered by the different vendors? I've got news for you folks, the skills you are all trying so hard to master are already yesterdays news! There is a whole new wave of networking technologies being deployed right under your noses that will totally change the way companies run their networking departments. Most enterprises in the future will outsource their MANs and WANs to managed service providers (running Nortel gear in many cases...horror of horrors) who will hand off an ethernet link at the customer premises. This will go into an L2/L3 switch, not "a router" as such (running EIGRP of course, so no other vendor's gear can be used). This will provider higher speed links at lower costs while flattening the MAN/WAN and eliminating a whole layer of storing and forwarding (read: L3 software based router). The L2/L3 LAN switching market has become so commoditized that the profit margins are slim to non-existent. The Catalyst switches are based on dated technology, and cannot deliver wire speed throughput while doing anything more than straight L2 (hence the "3-layer heirarchical model" a marketing exercise, NOT an engineering one, the whole point of switching was to flatten networks). Cisco will have to buy an established vendor (probably Extreme) in order to compete, since they've written down all the R&D they were doing along with their fledgling (CLEC) carrier business. That is why companies like Nortel are not even trying to compete in the conventional router market. Their R&D resources have all gone into next generation equipment that surpasses anything that cisco can do. Nortel's enterprise clients are buying Multiservice WAN switches, Sonet, and DWDM; NOT ROUTERS! Hint hint nudge nude wink wink! Get it ? --- David Toalson wrote: > I work at a subsidiary of a large healthcare > company. My office is 100% > Cisco for Routers and Switches. We have a total of > 30 routers and 8 > switches. I work with 30 remote sites, a main > office and separate Data > Center. I have attached a show version from one of > our two 7505 core > routers. As you can see it has been up for over 4 > years without any > problems. Our second has been up almost 2 years. > My parent company is a > "Nortel" shop. They have to re-boot their core > router about every 45-60 > days or more offten and many of their switches on a > regular basis. Granted, > they push a lot more data through their system, but > still.. As > approximately 1/3 of my remote sites run across the > Parent company WAN a > majority of the down time I am faced with is because > of the "Nortel" > equipment. > > I don't know if this will help, but it makes me feel > better to vent a > little. Please call me if you want any more > specifics. > > CHSDCB>sh clock > 10:17:14.824 UTC Fri Sep 14 2001 > CHSDCB>sh ver > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software > IOS (tm) GS Software (RSP-JV-M), Version 11.1(9)CA1, > EARLY DEPLOYMENT > RELEASE S > Synced to mainline version: 11.1(9) > Copyright (c) 1986-1997 by cisco Systems, Inc. > C
Re: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back [7:20062]
I think this would involve making sure that you plug the TX (SC or ST) plug into the OC3 interface's RX jack (SC or ST) opening, and vice-versa. I can't afford ATM for my lab, but I remember thinking it was neat that you could do some basic ATM stuff without the switch. If you are asking for some guidance at a more advanced level than this basic cabling level, then forgive my post. Thomas Larus ""Tom Keough"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello groupstudy, > The problem is that when I configure and no shut the interfaces they just > bounce between up and down every few seconds. I can put up a "loopback > diagnostic" and ping each interface ok. I have connected a 3640 and a 2600 > each with an ATM OC3 card back to back. I suspect I have not installed the > two multimode fiber cables properly. I have searched CCO but can't find > instructions for cabling the back to back configuration. I am using Caslow's > book for the ATM configuration. > > I just read in the ATM section of the All-In-One CCIE Lab Study Guide about > using one fiber cable for the back to back config vs. two cables to a switch > but which cable to which jack?? I won't have access to my lab again until > Monday or I'd be cable swapping right now. > > If anyone has any info on this I would greatly appreciate hearing from > you... > TIA, > Tom > > -- > > Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE > CCIE Candidate > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20062&t=20062 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CIT. Love USA --> Buy Stocks on Monday [7:20063]
Passed CIT this AM. This is my 2nd test. The first one was switching. Originally scheduled the exam for Monday morning (9/17). Rescheduled it to this Saturday AM so that I can have a weekend off to watch all the college and pro football games...then the tragedy... Well, if you love this country and want to show your patriotism, buy as much stocks as you can afford! I have basically put every extra penny I have in the stock market and will stay put. I hope every comapny will follow Cisco's leadership ($3 Billion Share Buyback) buying back their stocks on Monday: http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010913/bs/tech_cisco_dc_2.html You can place your buy orders online this weekend. Let's have more buy orders than sell orders when markets open on Monday!!! Jianliang Li __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20063&t=20063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: WTC Photo...You Gotta See This From The AP Wire [7:20064]
This is really strange...and comes from a reputable newspaper... http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily_news/2001/09/13/local/DEVI13C.htm Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20064&t=20064 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to come off as being snotty, but you kind of make my point for me. The fact that you haven't seen it yet doesn't mean a market shift is not happening. Cisco is not going to tell you about all the DWDM deals at their major clients going to Nortel and I probably shouldn't. I am a Nortel SE BTW, but I am also a long time Cisco stockholder, since 1995. It is going to take awhile before the turnover becomes obvious to everyone, there are still many smaller cities and premises in larger cities that are not served by optical fiber. When I speak of T1 access I'm using it in a more general sense, and to say "we're doing DS-3" and even OC-3 like I said kind of makes the point. I'm talking about Gig-E between major corporate locations over DWDM right into the campus core (L3 btw no distribution layer needed), effectively extending the LAN and flattening the MAN. Multiples of Gig-E are common and soon 10Gig-E will be available. SANs are also being run over the same DWDM rings, on different lambdas. The entire Chrysler building in New York has been wired with Nortel DWDM to the floors! Cisco has already admitted that they've missed the optical boat, spin or no spin. I've been told this personally by a Cisco manager (we were out drinking one night). The ONS 15454 is the only success story they have, and it primarily sold to CLECs who were being built on Cisco vendor financing but it is an OC-48 box. Still useful in certain applications though. Many of those CLECs are no longer in business, others are hanging on by a thread. Most of the rest of the Optical products cisco can offer are OEM'd. Much of their optical R&D (such as Monterey) has been shuttered. Cisco will continue to be a major player in the networking business, and will be profitable again, probably sooner than later after this week. I do think though that their momentum has been halted after the industry changes of this last year. Rather than going end to end with one vendor most carriers will now use a combination of devices from many vendors as appropriate. You will see some applications where Cisco sells into these markets, but they will be spun by Cisco into major strategic wins; which they are usually not. Meanwhile in the past year or so, even many of Cisco's best and largest enterprise customers have installed Nortel optical DWDM rings. Nortel has become the world's largest telecommunications vendor, surpassing Lucent; and picking up most of their business. The RBOCs hold the upper hand in the telecommunications game, and they look at Cisco as the arms merchant who sold to their now largely vanquished competitors. Cisco's recent re-org was effectively a complete retrenchment back into the enterprise space and out of the carrier world. From there they wil not be nearly as able to influence the direction of those markets in the future. If you're really interested I'd recommend a little "Light Reading" Cisco Re-org http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7645 MPLS & IP-Everywhere http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7805 Nortel first to demo 10-Gig E (into a switch, not a router) http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=8030 Recent Nortel Wins & Announcements http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7988 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7917 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7821 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7812 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7352 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7280 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7167 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7110 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=6986 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=6895 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=6578 I hope this continues to be a productive thread where we can all exchange ideas which will ultimately benfit us all. Sorry if I was initially a little harsh. --- Circusnuts wrote: > Guys- I read your post yesterday & thought about a > little overnight... I > don't have a clue where you're coming from. > Undoubtedly- Cisco is proud of > their LFH60/ Serial interfaces (but the need still > exists) & when I hear > someone referring a T-1 access, I giggle picturing > stoking a fire with > dollar bills. Having said this, I work in one of > the largest Enterprise > networks in the world. We have OC- everything, a > lot of Frame, DLSW > projects up the wazoo (replacing mainframe X.25) & @ > last count just over > 12,000 Cisco routers & switches. I work in the > engineering department & we > deal with some pretty OK stuff. I've also worked @ > a CLEC for a year & feel > very comfortable with how that world lives (on their > butts with a cup of > coffee :o) I have been ordering DS-3's these past 2 > weeks & know that a lot > hasn't changed since I left the CLEC business. I > say all this to qualif
Re: Cisco Certified Network Instructor [7:19659]
There is a CCAI, Cisco Certified Academy Instructor, available only to Cisco Networking Academy Instructors. I believe that is what the original poster was referring to. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Darren Crawford wrote: Excuse my ignorance but who is the CCNI offered by because it is not listed any where on Cisco's site that I saw? D. At 03:52 PM 9/12/2001 -0400, SUranjith Ariyapperuma wrote: >Fellow list members, >I have been asked to do the Cisco Certified Network Instructor (CCNI) Lab 4 >(the final exam) in 7 days time. Does anybody know anything about it ?. >Thanks in advance x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx Darren S. Crawford Network Systems Consultant Lucent Technologies - Sacramento email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] page via email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pager: 800-467-1467 "You always have time for things you put first" - Tucker Resources x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20066&t=19659 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mail servers behind the pix [7:19381]
I have seen an Exchange server which wotks with SMTP fixup protocol on 5.2(3). Also you might have to have both SMTP & POP3 ports open. >From: "Dwayne Cann" >Reply-To: "Dwayne Cann" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: mail servers behind the pix [7:19381] >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:06:25 -0400 > >I think it was. I am using smtp fixup with an nt email server behind a pix. > >-Original Message- >From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:54 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: mail servers behind the pix [7:19381] > > >Wasn't this fixed with the new code? > >-Patrick > > >>> "MikeN" 09/11/01 04:34PM >>> >You will need to disable the SMTP fixup protocol. It doesn't work with >Exchange. > >MikeN > >""fmxiao"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > hi all, > > > > how to configurate the pix, so that a mail server (NT 4 w/ Exchange) can > > communicate with other mail servers on the Internet behind the pix? > > > > thx. adv. > > roy _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20067&t=19381 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISP failover [7:20068]
Hello everyone: I have tricky situation here. There are two different frame relay OSPF networks connected in hub & spoke topology. Both hub routers sit behing PIX which are conncted to internet. Hub routers have this static routes pointing to PIX. I am using "redistibute static" command to advertise default static route to all spoke routers. The ISP provides failover such that if connection to one PIX fails the packets will be automatically routed to anotehr PIX from outside. My problem is I want connect these to networks from one of spoke router in Network 1 to another spoke router in Network 2 & provide secondary default route so that ISP failover is complete. I still want all nodes in each network access internet through their own PIX as long as internet is up, but when one internet is down they should be able to go through another PIX. How do make this secondary route become active only when internet is down. First of all, how does internal hub router which runs on private IP detect if internet is down. Does it have to trcak external PIX interface status OR ISP router status ? Any thoughts on this will be greatly helpful. Thanks, pat __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20068&t=20068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
All this is very educational and almost useless to the task at hand. Many of
us are here to prepare ourselves for the toughest test we've ever taken
outside of marriage (I aint kidding folks), and have chosen this path for
several good reasons. None of which are related to the sour grapes between
Cisco and Nortel, which BTW are no different than those between Microsoft
and IBM of several years ago.
If Nortel is sponsoring an industry certification with near the widespread
esteem of Cisco's CCIE please by all means tell us what we are missing. I
can put together a Nortel lab much cheaper than a Cisco one and am all
ears.
This industry has been in constant flux since day 0 and all the claims of
mine is bigger than yours doesn't matter one wit. Personally I think Nortel
makes a good product though not as good as Cisco's overall but that's IMHO.
If they have a lead in a up and coming market segment good for them, they
need it. But don't fool yourselves it wont last never has, never will and
Cisco in particular I'm sure keeps that in mind. Sorry for the OT its been a
long week and it aint over yet as now I got to "try" and find a flight to
Houston.
Give 'em hell Dubya
Dan
{only a Cisco stock holder since 2001, but I bought at 13 :)) }
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Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
I wasn't going to clutter up the list and waste B/w, but you asked me to
enlighten you, and I guess the information should be available to all. Yes,
I am responding using a different email address because its convenient; but
I'm the same Robert Hanley.
If you read the thread in context I responded to someone looking for reasons
why no one should buy anything but Cisco. If my attempt to add breadth to
this persons understanding of the industry are lost on you that's
unfortunate for you. There are no sour grapes here, but I am always amazed
at the arrogant and dismissive attitudes I encounter whenever anything but
Cisco cheerleading is expressed. I participate in the list to take Cisco
exams too, which I am getting back to after being busy taking Nortel cert
tests, which were a requirement for my commissions. They were very
educational btw, and have helped me to understand many of the aspects of
Cisco's certification process in a new light. If you are only interested in
passing exams, and not in understanding the business you would participate
in, you may want to re-examine your motives.
A lab comprised of the gear I'm talking about costs millions of $ and yes
there is a cert. It is indeed esteemed, but perhaps in different circles
than you will find yourself. Oh well...
http://www.nortelnetworks.com/servsup/certification/optical_cert/index.html
The kind of change I'm talking about happens about every 10 years, even in
this very fast moving business. The last time was when two college
professors at Stanford wanted to make their department's computers talk
together. But that's another story.
Go in peace...and keep your head down.
"Dan Faulk" wrote in message
...
> All this is very educational and almost useless to the task at hand. Many
of
> us are here to prepare ourselves for the toughest test we've ever taken
> outside of marriage (I aint kidding folks), and have chosen this path for
> several good reasons. None of which are related to the sour grapes between
> Cisco and Nortel, which BTW are no different than those between Microsoft
> and IBM of several years ago.
>
> If Nortel is sponsoring an industry certification with near the widespread
> esteem of Cisco's CCIE please by all means tell us what we are missing. I
> can put together a Nortel lab much cheaper than a Cisco one and am all
> ears.
>
> This industry has been in constant flux since day 0 and all the claims of
> mine is bigger than yours doesn't matter one wit. Personally I think
Nortel
> makes a good product though not as good as Cisco's overall but that's
IMHO.
> If they have a lead in a up and coming market segment good for them, they
> need it. But don't fool yourselves it wont last never has, never will and
> Cisco in particular I'm sure keeps that in mind. Sorry for the OT its been
a
> long week and it aint over yet as now I got to "try" and find a flight to
> Houston.
>
> Give 'em hell Dubya
> Dan
> {only a Cisco stock holder since 2001, but I bought at 13 :)) }
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Re: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back [7:20071]
Thank you, Thomas. Yes, I have the TX crossed to the RX, otherwise the error lights light up. Tom -- Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE CCIE Candidate [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Thomas Larus"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I think this would involve making sure that you plug the TX (SC or ST) plug > into the OC3 interface's RX jack (SC or ST) opening, and vice-versa. I > can't afford ATM for my lab, but I remember thinking it was neat that you > could do some basic ATM stuff without the switch. If you are asking for > some guidance at a more advanced level than this basic cabling level, then > forgive my post. > > Thomas Larus > ""Tom Keough"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hello groupstudy, > > The problem is that when I configure and no shut the interfaces they just > > bounce between up and down every few seconds. I can put up a "loopback > > diagnostic" and ping each interface ok. I have connected a 3640 and a 2600 > > each with an ATM OC3 card back to back. I suspect I have not installed the > > two multimode fiber cables properly. I have searched CCO but can't find > > instructions for cabling the back to back configuration. I am using > Caslow's > > book for the ATM configuration. > > > > I just read in the ATM section of the All-In-One CCIE Lab Study Guide > about > > using one fiber cable for the back to back config vs. two cables to a > switch > > but which cable to which jack?? I won't have access to my lab again until > > Monday or I'd be cable swapping right now. > > > > If anyone has any info on this I would greatly appreciate hearing from > > you... > > TIA, > > Tom > > > > -- > > > > Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE > > CCIE Candidate > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20071&t=20071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
To bring this discussion to a bit more generic level, it has been determined, if my recollection of my reading is correct, that existing fiber has a theoretical bandwidth of 2.5 terabits. All that matters is the equipment attached at the endpoints. I am not familiar with what is happening at the telco level. I am seeing products being offered to customers, in which the customer premise equipment is the JDS Uniphase 1280, which on the one side connects into the carrier fiber network, and on the other hands off standard gigabit LX or SX connection to customer routers or switches. I am guessing that the connection to the carrier side is into one of the DWDM switches that Robert is talking about. the big negative I see continues to be "the last mile" which stubbornly remains twisted pair. that is a topic for another time. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Hanley Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to come off as being snotty, but you kind of make my point for me. The fact that you haven't seen it yet doesn't mean a market shift is not happening. Cisco is not going to tell you about all the DWDM deals at their major clients going to Nortel and I probably shouldn't. I am a Nortel SE BTW, but I am also a long time Cisco stockholder, since 1995. It is going to take awhile before the turnover becomes obvious to everyone, there are still many smaller cities and premises in larger cities that are not served by optical fiber. When I speak of T1 access I'm using it in a more general sense, and to say "we're doing DS-3" and even OC-3 like I said kind of makes the point. I'm talking about Gig-E between major corporate locations over DWDM right into the campus core (L3 btw no distribution layer needed), effectively extending the LAN and flattening the MAN. Multiples of Gig-E are common and soon 10Gig-E will be available. SANs are also being run over the same DWDM rings, on different lambdas. The entire Chrysler building in New York has been wired with Nortel DWDM to the floors! Cisco has already admitted that they've missed the optical boat, spin or no spin. I've been told this personally by a Cisco manager (we were out drinking one night). The ONS 15454 is the only success story they have, and it primarily sold to CLECs who were being built on Cisco vendor financing but it is an OC-48 box. Still useful in certain applications though. Many of those CLECs are no longer in business, others are hanging on by a thread. Most of the rest of the Optical products cisco can offer are OEM'd. Much of their optical R&D (such as Monterey) has been shuttered. Cisco will continue to be a major player in the networking business, and will be profitable again, probably sooner than later after this week. I do think though that their momentum has been halted after the industry changes of this last year. Rather than going end to end with one vendor most carriers will now use a combination of devices from many vendors as appropriate. You will see some applications where Cisco sells into these markets, but they will be spun by Cisco into major strategic wins; which they are usually not. Meanwhile in the past year or so, even many of Cisco's best and largest enterprise customers have installed Nortel optical DWDM rings. Nortel has become the world's largest telecommunications vendor, surpassing Lucent; and picking up most of their business. The RBOCs hold the upper hand in the telecommunications game, and they look at Cisco as the arms merchant who sold to their now largely vanquished competitors. Cisco's recent re-org was effectively a complete retrenchment back into the enterprise space and out of the carrier world. From there they wil not be nearly as able to influence the direction of those markets in the future. If you're really interested I'd recommend a little "Light Reading" Cisco Re-org http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7645 MPLS & IP-Everywhere http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7805 Nortel first to demo 10-Gig E (into a switch, not a router) http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=8030 Recent Nortel Wins & Announcements http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7988 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7917 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7821 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7812 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7352 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7280 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7167 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7110 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=6986 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=6895 http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=6578 I hope this continues to be a productive threa
RE: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
If I may offer, when one reads the title of the certification most of us
have or seek we should remember that it is Cisco certified. the emphasis is
on Cisco. The whole purpose of vendor certification is to provide the vendor
with a large number of people familiar with their product. this gives
potential customers more reason to commit to the vendor in question, knowing
they can easily find qualified people to service the equipment in question.
Novell certifications served to show clients that if they committed to
Netware, they would be able to hire people qualified to work on Netware
networks. Microsoft certifications served to show customers the same thing.
Sun has had a Solaris / UNIX certification program for years. These days one
can attain any number of vendor certifications.
I don't think it hurts once in a while to discuss technology in general. To
excel in this field one will need to know more than how to swap a few disks
to install Win2K or Netware. One may need to know more than a few basic IOS
commands.
JMHO
Chuck
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Robert Hanley
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
I wasn't going to clutter up the list and waste B/w, but you asked me to
enlighten you, and I guess the information should be available to all. Yes,
I am responding using a different email address because its convenient; but
I'm the same Robert Hanley.
If you read the thread in context I responded to someone looking for reasons
why no one should buy anything but Cisco. If my attempt to add breadth to
this persons understanding of the industry are lost on you that's
unfortunate for you. There are no sour grapes here, but I am always amazed
at the arrogant and dismissive attitudes I encounter whenever anything but
Cisco cheerleading is expressed. I participate in the list to take Cisco
exams too, which I am getting back to after being busy taking Nortel cert
tests, which were a requirement for my commissions. They were very
educational btw, and have helped me to understand many of the aspects of
Cisco's certification process in a new light. If you are only interested in
passing exams, and not in understanding the business you would participate
in, you may want to re-examine your motives.
A lab comprised of the gear I'm talking about costs millions of $ and yes
there is a cert. It is indeed esteemed, but perhaps in different circles
than you will find yourself. Oh well...
http://www.nortelnetworks.com/servsup/certification/optical_cert/index.html
The kind of change I'm talking about happens about every 10 years, even in
this very fast moving business. The last time was when two college
professors at Stanford wanted to make their department's computers talk
together. But that's another story.
Go in peace...and keep your head down.
"Dan Faulk" wrote in message
...
> All this is very educational and almost useless to the task at hand. Many
of
> us are here to prepare ourselves for the toughest test we've ever taken
> outside of marriage (I aint kidding folks), and have chosen this path for
> several good reasons. None of which are related to the sour grapes between
> Cisco and Nortel, which BTW are no different than those between Microsoft
> and IBM of several years ago.
>
> If Nortel is sponsoring an industry certification with near the widespread
> esteem of Cisco's CCIE please by all means tell us what we are missing. I
> can put together a Nortel lab much cheaper than a Cisco one and am all
> ears.
>
> This industry has been in constant flux since day 0 and all the claims of
> mine is bigger than yours doesn't matter one wit. Personally I think
Nortel
> makes a good product though not as good as Cisco's overall but that's
IMHO.
> If they have a lead in a up and coming market segment good for them, they
> need it. But don't fool yourselves it wont last never has, never will and
> Cisco in particular I'm sure keeps that in mind. Sorry for the OT its been
a
> long week and it aint over yet as now I got to "try" and find a flight to
> Houston.
>
> Give 'em hell Dubya
> Dan
> {only a Cisco stock holder since 2001, but I bought at 13 :)) }
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Re: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back [7:20074]
I think that something like this was talked about here some time ago. I think it had to do with a timing issue. One side had to be set to provide timing or some such thing.. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Tom Keough" To: Sent: Saturday, 15 September, 2001 19:30 Subject: Re: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back [7:20071] > Thank you, Thomas. > Yes, I have the TX crossed to the RX, otherwise the error lights light up. > Tom > > -- > > Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE > CCIE Candidate > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ""Thomas Larus"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I think this would involve making sure that you plug the TX (SC or ST) > plug > > into the OC3 interface's RX jack (SC or ST) opening, and vice-versa. I > > can't afford ATM for my lab, but I remember thinking it was neat that you > > could do some basic ATM stuff without the switch. If you are asking for > > some guidance at a more advanced level than this basic cabling level, then > > forgive my post. > > > > Thomas Larus > > ""Tom Keough"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hello groupstudy, > > > The problem is that when I configure and no shut the interfaces they > just > > > bounce between up and down every few seconds. I can put up a "loopback > > > diagnostic" and ping each interface ok. I have connected a 3640 and a > 2600 > > > each with an ATM OC3 card back to back. I suspect I have not installed > the > > > two multimode fiber cables properly. I have searched CCO but can't find > > > instructions for cabling the back to back configuration. I am using > > Caslow's > > > book for the ATM configuration. > > > > > > I just read in the ATM section of the All-In-One CCIE Lab Study Guide > > about > > > using one fiber cable for the back to back config vs. two cables to a > > switch > > > but which cable to which jack?? I won't have access to my lab again > until > > > Monday or I'd be cable swapping right now. > > > > > > If anyone has any info on this I would greatly appreciate hearing from > > > you... > > > TIA, > > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE > > > CCIE Candidate > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20074&t=20074 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back [7:20076]
You need to have clocking internal on one end and line (default) on the other. atm clock INTERNAL I don't have Caslow handy so don't know if the above is included in the config. Here's a working config between two 7500s. They are running 11.3 First end: interface ATM6/0 description Location AnyCo_North. Always node 4. no ip address atm clock INTERNAL ! interface ATM6/0.1 multipoint description pvc to Data Center via fiber ip address xxx.yyy.7.250 255.255.255.252 secondary ip address 10.18.35.4 255.255.255.0 atm pvc 1 0 35 aal5snap map-group TGN appletalk cable-range 35-35 35.4 appletalk zone ATM map-list TGN ip 10.18.35.1 atm-vc 1 broadcast appletalk 35.1 atm-vc 1 broadcast ip xxx.yyy.7.249 atm-vc 1 broadcast Other end: interface ATM12/0 description Location AnyCo. Always node 1. no ip address ! interface ATM12/0.1 multipoint description pvc to AnyCo_North ip address xxx.yyy.7.249 255.255.255.252 secondary ip address 10.18.35.1 255.255.255.0 atm pvc 1 0 35 aal5snap map-group TGE appletalk cable-range 35-35 35.1 appletalk zone ATM map-list TGE ip 10.18.35.4 atm-vc 1 broadcast appletalk 35.4 atm-vc 1 broadcast ip xxx.yyy.7.250 atm-vc 1 broadcast > -Original Message- > From: Tom Keough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back > [7:20061] > > > Hello groupstudy, > The problem is that when I configure and no shut the > interfaces they just > bounce between up and down every few seconds. I can put up a "loopback > diagnostic" and ping each interface ok. I have connected a > 3640 and a 2600 > each with an ATM OC3 card back to back. I suspect I have not > installed the > two multimode fiber cables properly. I have searched CCO but > can't find > instructions for cabling the back to back configuration. I am > using Caslow's > book for the ATM configuration. > > I just read in the ATM section of the All-In-One CCIE Lab > Study Guide about > using one fiber cable for the back to back config vs. two > cables to a switch > but which cable to which jack?? I won't have access to my lab > again until > Monday or I'd be cable swapping right now. > > If anyone has any info on this I would greatly appreciate hearing from > you... > TIA, > Tom > > -- > > Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE > CCIE Candidate > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Report misconduct > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20076&t=20076 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam!!!--- - - Stratacom Switches [7:18476]
>>for now Cisco only > wants you to know what they are and some general > stuff about it. Not true. Check this web siteand follow the links. It has more than what u need. http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/74/topissues/wan_sw/top_issues_wansw.shtml VB --- Paul Jin wrote: > Robert Padjen wrote: > > > > Yes, my CID text does address the StrataCom, > however, > > I recommend that readers augment this material > with > > CCO. It appears that the test has altered a few > > questions since the last publication and it would > be > > easiest to bolster the Cisco material as opposed > to > > try and keep up with the errata for each change. > > Specifically, I would suggest that readers pay > > attention to the type and quanity of ports > available > > on the platforms - although these questions seem > silly > > as one can quickly go to CCO and look it up. ;) > > > > > > > > Yeah, I am not sure exactly how much is covered in > the exam ,but Robert's > book has 3 pgs on stratacoms and cisco press CID has > 2 paragraphs... Not > too sure how much stratacom questions are on the > exam since Cisco Press has > decided to print out only 2 paragraph worth... > > Stratacoms are complex equipment so I am assuming > that for now Cisco only > wants you to know what they are and some general > stuff about it. > > I plan on taking it at the end of the month or early > next month so I can > talk more about it then. > > Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20075&t=18476 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Larry Seltzer Article - Someone needs some glassess .. [7:20077]
If anyone actually went and read the article by Larry Seltzer, you would have discovered that he refered to the MCSE certification, not the CCIE. I was ticked at Seltzer at first, but now that I see what he actually wrote, I agree with him. I got my MCSE in a box of CrackerJack !! It has taken over a year for me to gain the necessary knowledge and balls to take and pass the written, and even though my lab stae isnt until May of 2002, I still may not be ready. "minimal Competence" My Pa-too-tie !!! GOD BLESS AMERICA and all those who love her !!! Dish = Chris from Chicago MasterCNE, CCNP, ICNE, MCP __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20077&t=20077 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bridging [7:20078]
Can you configure bridging using only serial interfaces, no ethernet involved at all? I have a 2501 connected to a 2511, and a 2503 connected to the same 2511, both via serial. I want to configure the 2 serial interfaces on the 2511 to bridge between them, is that possible? There is no practical reason for this, just setting it up in the lab and I am curious. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20078&t=20078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed Written, Thanks! [7:20079]
All, Thanks so much for your guidence! I completed CCNP/CCDP first. Then I read the Sybex(Lammle) CCIE Study Guide. I used the Boson Tests #1 and #2, and quickly realized I was not ready for some of the ATM questions. I picked up the McGrawHill(Giles) CCIE study guide, and used it and the Cisco Web Site to fill in the blanks. For Token Ring I used the RIF study aid that is free here at the GroupStudy "StudyNotes" as well as the Rossi Paper at CCPREP. I used some of the free study aids at Bosons site, they have some faster ways to derive your IP access list wildcards and IP summary ranges. Token Ring "Rif" Links: http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf For summary addressing and wildcards: http://www.boson.com/promo/freestuff.htm#guides I passed with an 83% I did pretty well in all areas except for "Performance Management" section, if anyone knows what that section's focous was I would appreciate a response. Perhaps the fact that I don't know is indicitive as to why I did not do so well in that area, I had really wanted to hit a 90% :-) If I had it to do over, I would have started with assessing myself with the boson's Having a CCNP/DP gets you about 80% there, I could have saved about 2 weeks if I just found out in the begining that 20% that I needed to focus on. I am off to start studies for the LAB, since I don't know where else to start, I will ask the groupstudy Lab forum moderator if I can join after I schedule my Lab Exam. Thanks again for all the advice. Good Luck to those persuing this crazy certification. :-) Cassidy D. Smith Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20079&t=20079 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]
This is an interesting point, and one worth discussing a bit further. I can still recall an interview during the course of which the interviewer questioned my qualification in part because my experience was with IOS 11.2. He stated that they used IOS 12.0 ( newly released at the time. ) I asked why, and he said "because we need the new features" I had the temerity to ask which ones. There was no answer. The interview went down hill from there. Some folks are upgrade freaks. My own opinion is that in a heavy duty production environment the only reason should upgrade is if the upgrade fixes an identifiable problem. These days, the latest IOS is not necessarily the best IOS. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of EA Louie Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] > ya know, I am a fan of if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but dudeDo you Me too. and if I never have to mess with the routers because they're doing their job, then why upgrade or futz with them, especially a core router? I love to tinker just like everyone else, but the great thing about a production network is that if everything IS running, then I can let it be and work on some of the other stuff that's important (like my lab studies ;-) If I don't need no new features, then I don't upgrade until I do. I once had a boss who had to have THE LATEST version of code on our network and would make us schedule IOS upgrades regularly, even when we complained that there was no value-add to the upgrade. I guess that's the OTHER extreme...and then we'd have a relatively short amount of time to configure the 'new features' of the code into our network (I really learned to hate frame-relay traffic shaping). > never want the fixes and features of newer code? Just curious... Especialy > with Cisco NAT in it's infant stages... > > -Patrick _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20080&t=19933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bridging [7:20078]
yes. how are you going to test that it's working? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lupi, Guy Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bridging [7:20078] Can you configure bridging using only serial interfaces, no ethernet involved at all? I have a 2501 connected to a 2511, and a 2503 connected to the same 2511, both via serial. I want to configure the 2 serial interfaces on the 2511 to bridge between them, is that possible? There is no practical reason for this, just setting it up in the lab and I am curious. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20081&t=20078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simulator for ISDN [7:20082]
[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Is there anything that I will be unable to do [that is relevant to preparing for the CCIE lab] with an ISDN simulator (versus having actual ISDN service with my local phone company). Thanks This email was sent through the free email service at http://www.anonymous.to/ To report abuse, please visit our website and click 'Contact Us.' Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20082&t=20082 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]
& then you have people like me, who just can't leave well enough alone. I upgraded the 7513 @ my old job. I added VIP's (replacing the old AIP's) & an RSP4 in a "working" Nortel/ Cisco LANE environment. Although- I can prove I repaired the RSP2's over-utilization problems (by removing the AIP's that feed off of the RSP), I was not able to correct the "new" problem of needing reboot the router once a week to keep LANE clients established :o) Phil - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" To: Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: RE: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] > This is an interesting point, and one worth discussing a bit further. > > I can still recall an interview during the course of which the interviewer > questioned my qualification in part because my experience was with IOS 11.2. > He stated that they used IOS 12.0 ( newly released at the time. ) I asked > why, and he said "because we need the new features" I had the temerity to > ask which ones. There was no answer. The interview went down hill from > there. > > Some folks are upgrade freaks. My own opinion is that in a heavy duty > production environment the only reason should upgrade is if the upgrade > fixes an identifiable problem. These days, the latest IOS is not necessarily > the best IOS. > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > EA Louie > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] > > > > ya know, I am a fan of if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but dudeDo you > > Me too. and if I never have to mess with the routers because they're doing > their job, then why upgrade or futz with them, especially a core router? I > love to tinker just like everyone else, but the great thing about a > production network is that if everything IS running, then I can let it be > and work on some of the other stuff that's important (like my lab studies > ;-) If I don't need no new features, then I don't upgrade until I do. > > I once had a boss who had to have THE LATEST version of code on our network > and would make us schedule IOS upgrades regularly, even when we complained > that there was no value-add to the upgrade. I guess that's the OTHER > extreme...and then we'd have a relatively short amount of time to configure > the 'new features' of the code into our network (I really learned to hate > frame-relay traffic shaping). > > > never want the fixes and features of newer code? Just curious... > Especialy > > with Cisco NAT in it's infant stages... > > > > -Patrick > > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20083&t=19933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridging [7:20078]
If I'm not mistaken- the CCIE proctors have no way of checking bridging beyond a wink & nod @ the configs either. Phil - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" To: Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: RE: Bridging [7:20078] > yes. > > how are you going to test that it's working? > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Lupi, Guy > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Bridging [7:20078] > > > Can you configure bridging using only serial interfaces, no ethernet > involved at all? I have a 2501 connected to a 2511, and a 2503 connected to > the same 2511, both via serial. I want to configure the 2 serial interfaces > on the 2511 to bridge between them, is that possible? There is no practical > reason for this, just setting it up in the lab and I am curious. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20084&t=20078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back [7:20085]
Thanks Daniel, I'll try it on Monday and post the results... Tom -- Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE CCIE Candidate [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Daniel Cotts"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > You need to have clocking internal on one end and line (default) on the > other. > atm clock INTERNAL > I don't have Caslow handy so don't know if the above is included in the > config. > Here's a working config between two 7500s. They are running 11.3 > > First end: > interface ATM6/0 > description Location AnyCo_North. Always node 4. > no ip address > atm clock INTERNAL > ! > interface ATM6/0.1 multipoint > description pvc to Data Center via fiber > ip address xxx.yyy.7.250 255.255.255.252 secondary > ip address 10.18.35.4 255.255.255.0 > atm pvc 1 0 35 aal5snap > map-group TGN > appletalk cable-range 35-35 35.4 > appletalk zone ATM > map-list TGN > ip 10.18.35.1 atm-vc 1 broadcast > appletalk 35.1 atm-vc 1 broadcast > ip xxx.yyy.7.249 atm-vc 1 broadcast > > Other end: > interface ATM12/0 > description Location AnyCo. Always node 1. > no ip address > ! > interface ATM12/0.1 multipoint > description pvc to AnyCo_North > ip address xxx.yyy.7.249 255.255.255.252 secondary > ip address 10.18.35.1 255.255.255.0 > atm pvc 1 0 35 aal5snap > map-group TGE > appletalk cable-range 35-35 35.1 > appletalk zone ATM > > map-list TGE > ip 10.18.35.4 atm-vc 1 broadcast > appletalk 35.4 atm-vc 1 broadcast > ip xxx.yyy.7.250 atm-vc 1 broadcast > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tom Keough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Problem connecting 2 routers w/ATM OC3 int back to back > > [7:20061] > > > > > > Hello groupstudy, > > The problem is that when I configure and no shut the > > interfaces they just > > bounce between up and down every few seconds. I can put up a "loopback > > diagnostic" and ping each interface ok. I have connected a > > 3640 and a 2600 > > each with an ATM OC3 card back to back. I suspect I have not > > installed the > > two multimode fiber cables properly. I have searched CCO but > > can't find > > instructions for cabling the back to back configuration. I am > > using Caslow's > > book for the ATM configuration. > > > > I just read in the ATM section of the All-In-One CCIE Lab > > Study Guide about > > using one fiber cable for the back to back config vs. two > > cables to a switch > > but which cable to which jack?? I won't have access to my lab > > again until > > Monday or I'd be cable swapping right now. > > > > If anyone has any info on this I would greatly appreciate hearing from > > you... > > TIA, > > Tom > > > > -- > > > > Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE > > CCIE Candidate > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Report misconduct > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20085&t=20085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]
It's most likely you have old boot roms that are not able to recognize the 16M of memory. Dave "Albert Y. Pak" wrote: > Hi All, > I am able to boot Cisco 2502 with 1 x 8MB flash. However, as soon as I > install a second 8MB flash (empty), the router hangs at System Bootstrap > (Version 11.0(10c)XB1). + doesn't work either. These 2 8MB flash > are identical. > Please advise, > Albert -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Senior Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20086&t=20043 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridging [7:20078]
Sure but I'm at a loss to understand what good it would do. Dave "Lupi, Guy" wrote: > Can you configure bridging using only serial interfaces, no ethernet > involved at all? I have a 2501 connected to a 2511, and a 2503 connected to > the same 2511, both via serial. I want to configure the 2 serial interfaces > on the 2511 to bridge between them, is that possible? There is no practical > reason for this, just setting it up in the lab and I am curious. Thanks. -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Senior Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20088&t=20078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISP failover [7:20068]
Pat- I may be hitting this issue way bellow the knees, but have you ever thought of running an IBGP session. You could create a channel or path connection between the two OSPF networks for fail-over, load balance, & geographical routing (if your current connection involves is BGP peering @ the ISP). This could be done before the PIX's, not to allow port 179 TCP openings in the firewalls... Phil - Original Message - From: "pat" To: Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:56 PM Subject: ISP failover [7:20068] > Hello everyone: > >I have tricky situation here. There are two > different frame relay OSPF networks connected in hub & > spoke topology. Both hub routers sit behing PIX which > are conncted to internet. Hub routers have this static > routes pointing to PIX. I am using "redistibute > static" command to advertise default static route to > all spoke routers. The ISP provides failover such that > if connection to one PIX fails the packets will be > automatically routed to anotehr PIX from outside. > >My problem is I want connect these to networks from > one of spoke router in Network 1 to another spoke > router in Network 2 & provide secondary default route > so that ISP failover is complete. I still want all > nodes in each network access internet through their > own PIX as long as internet is up, but when one > internet is down they should be able to go through > another PIX. How do make this secondary route become > active only when internet is down. First of all, how > does internal hub router which runs on private IP > detect if internet is down. Does it have to trcak > external PIX interface status OR ISP router status ? > > Any thoughts on this will be greatly helpful. > > Thanks, > pat > > > > __ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20089&t=20068 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
Chuck & group; So, all this is understood about certs & why, etc...; and anyone who has participated in this list for any length of time has seen the same ground covered as Chuck covered below. I've been following this list and participating as time permitted since about June 1999. So I know the deal. I will continue to seek Cisco certifications for two primary reasons: 1. I may need those credentials if I find myself back out in the larger job market in the future. Especially as a consultant called on both to evaluate existing networks and propose changes or upgrades be they piecemeal or forklifted, but also to write, respond to and review responses to RFPs & RFIs. All this with a view toward providing my client with an end result that best meets their needs. Regardless of what the vendors are pushing. 2. It enhances my credibility in my current role as a Nortel SE with customers when I need to critique Cisco's designs and or proposals, and my ability to understand what they may propose, and why. So there is more to this than knowing commands, though that may be critical if one wants to stay strictly "hands on". There is much more to this business, however; and I think studying the merits and weaknesses of different vendors' gear helps to round us all out, and to provide solutions to problems. Not just the Cisco way, or the Nortel way, or any one vendor's way. But the way that provides the greatest value to our clients and corporations. If we work for Cisco, or Nortel, or any vendor; it gives us an opportunity to understand our strengths and weaknesses and to provide feedback to the people who develop products to make them better. There is always room on this list for people who want to know how to solve a work related problem, or to express political opinions as has been done this past week. I think if people don't want to engage in this type of discussion they should use the Delete Key, not the "this is a Cisco List" crutch; thereby discouraging honest and constructive dialog. If you don't like it don't participate, but don't keep other people from learning something. There have also been occasions when people have asked for help interfacing Nortel and Cisco gear when I have been happy to help and will certainly continue to do so. No matter how misunderstood the gear or my intentions may be. But again, the only reason I gave the URL for the Nortel cert, was because Dan Faulk asked for it. Not that he expected there was any possible answer of any merit, or that he took a look. But maybe someone else did, and maybe it will help them to advance their career. Learning is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance. That doesn't mean we want to find out how ignorant we are. But it may mean that we need to. Go in peace...and keep your head down. "Chuck Larrieu" wrote in message ... >If I may offer, when one reads the title of the certification most of us >have or seek we should remember that it is Cisco certified. the emphasis is >on Cisco. The whole purpose of vendor certification is to provide the vendor >with a large number of people familiar with their product. this gives >potential customers more reason to commit to the vendor in question, knowing >they can easily find qualified people to service the equipment in question. > >Novell certifications served to show clients that if they committed to >Netware, they would be able to hire people qualified to work on Netware >networks. Microsoft certifications served to show customers the same thing. >Sun has had a Solaris / UNIX certification program for years. These days one >can attain any number of vendor certifications. > >I don't think it hurts once in a while to discuss technology in general. To >excel in this field one will need to know more than how to swap a few disks >to install Win2K or Netware. One may need to know more than a few basic IOS >commands. > >JMHO > >Chuck > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Robert Hanley >Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:10 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] > > >I wasn't going to clutter up the list and waste B/w, but you asked me to >enlighten you, and I guess the information should be available to all. Yes, >I am responding using a different email address because its convenient; but >I'm the same Robert Hanley. > >If you read the thread in context I responded to someone looking for reasons >why no one should buy anything but Cisco. If my attempt to add breadth to >this persons understanding of the industry are lost on you that's >unfortunate for you. There are no sour grapes here, but I am always amazed >at the arrogant and dismissive attitudes I encounter whenever anything but >Cisco cheerleading is expressed. I participate in the list to take Cisco >exams too, which I am getting back to after being busy taking Nortel cert >tests, which were a requirement for my commissions. They
RE: Larry Seltzer Article - Someone needs some glassess .. [7:20090]
Dish, Thanks for pointing out the change. I did read the article very carefully. The paragraph that includes; "Terms like MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer) indicate only successful completion of the program and minimal competence in the product.", has been changed. Previously it said CCIE. The wonders of electronic publishing! Dave Swink -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Haller Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Larry Seltzer Article - Someone needs some glassess .. [7:20077] If anyone actually went and read the article by Larry Seltzer, you would have discovered that he refered to the MCSE certification, not the CCIE. I was ticked at Seltzer at first, but now that I see what he actually wrote, I agree with him. I got my MCSE in a box of CrackerJack !! It has taken over a year for me to gain the necessary knowledge and balls to take and pass the written, and even though my lab stae isnt until May of 2002, I still may not be ready. "minimal Competence" My Pa-too-tie !!! GOD BLESS AMERICA and all those who love her !!! Dish = Chris from Chicago MasterCNE, CCNP, ICNE, MCP __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20090&t=20090 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Active Directory Ports & PIX [7:19772]
You also need to specify what is where ... ... AD servers in DMZ / outside or the client PC's in the DMZ / outside? Hopefully, AD inside ... but then again, hopefully you would use a VPN for the outside boxes to connect. One possible, semi-allowable exception - multiple firewalls; either layered or separate .. AD is supposed to be all encrypted, no? Separate: Running on theory here ... you would still hopefully use a PIX2PIX VPN! But ... I believe TCP ports 135-139 and 445 are used, dunno if all are needed tho'. Layered: We have one client that has the primary firewall, which has the AD server and some Web/APP server ... they also have another PIX behind the first PIX, which then houses some DB servers. I believe, the DB servers were able to join the domain w/o any config changes as they were outbound connections. One issue we had - the DB server registered themselves in DDNS with their INTERNAL addresses so all of the other boxes using AD provided DNS could not reach them address to reach them>. Thanks! TJ -Original Message- From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Active Directory Ports & PIX [7:19772] Allowing a server access to all domain functions completely defies putting it in a DMZ... That means if any one person broke into a box in the dmz, he has access to the entire domain not a good idea.. -Patrick >>> "Dave Luancing" 09/13/01 10:36AM >>> Does anyone know what ports need to be opened in a PIX to allow servers to join the domain and replicate. Thanks, Dave __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20092&t=19772 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FW: Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]
people like you end up writing books respected by all and becoming elder statesmen. :-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] & then you have people like me, who just can't leave well enough alone. I upgraded the 7513 @ my old job. I added VIP's (replacing the old AIP's) & an RSP4 in a "working" Nortel/ Cisco LANE environment. Although- I can prove I repaired the RSP2's over-utilization problems (by removing the AIP's that feed off of the RSP), I was not able to correct the "new" problem of needing reboot the router once a week to keep LANE clients established :o) Phil - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" To: Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: RE: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] > This is an interesting point, and one worth discussing a bit further. > > I can still recall an interview during the course of which the interviewer > questioned my qualification in part because my experience was with IOS 11.2. > He stated that they used IOS 12.0 ( newly released at the time. ) I asked > why, and he said "because we need the new features" I had the temerity to > ask which ones. There was no answer. The interview went down hill from > there. > > Some folks are upgrade freaks. My own opinion is that in a heavy duty > production environment the only reason should upgrade is if the upgrade > fixes an identifiable problem. These days, the latest IOS is not necessarily > the best IOS. > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > EA Louie > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933] > > > > ya know, I am a fan of if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but dudeDo you > > Me too. and if I never have to mess with the routers because they're doing > their job, then why upgrade or futz with them, especially a core router? I > love to tinker just like everyone else, but the great thing about a > production network is that if everything IS running, then I can let it be > and work on some of the other stuff that's important (like my lab studies > ;-) If I don't need no new features, then I don't upgrade until I do. > > I once had a boss who had to have THE LATEST version of code on our network > and would make us schedule IOS upgrades regularly, even when we complained > that there was no value-add to the upgrade. I guess that's the OTHER > extreme...and then we'd have a relatively short amount of time to configure > the 'new features' of the code into our network (I really learned to hate > frame-relay traffic shaping). > > > never want the fixes and features of newer code? Just curious... > Especialy > > with Cisco NAT in it's infant stages... > > > > -Patrick > > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20093&t=19933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DIAL Backup of Wireless VLAN [7:20058]
Don't look for an interface going down, instead configure a floating default route as your interesting packet. Dave Khurrum Shahzad wrote: > Hi all > I want help regarding my scenario which is as follows. > I have one central and tow remote sites. Both two remote sites are connected > with central through Wireless Ethernet Bridge (high speed). > At Central site Ethernet cable from both Wireless Bridge are connected to > switch and Cisco 2620 is used for routing between 3 different VLAN ( two for > remote and one for central). > > So at central site I have 3 sub interface on Fast Ethernet each having IP > address of separate net. > > I also require Sync Dial Backup for each remote site. So I placed one 1601 > and Sync dialup modem on each remote site and dialup modems at central > connected with sync port of 2620. > > But I can't understand how to configure online (automatic) backup because if > any of wireless link will break or down, Ethernet ports will not down and > dialer will not initiate. > > Also for manual backup, if I manually dial to central site from any remote > site then after connected to central, I have same IP net on both site of > link, > it means Ethernet port of 1601 and fast Ethernet port of 2620 have Ethernet > IP > from same net. > > Can anybody guide me how I run my main links on Wireless Ethernet Bridge and > backup link on dialup with routers? > > Network diagram of my setup is at > > http://www.geocities.com/khurrums/ > > Regards > Khurrum -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Senior Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20087&t=20058 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Active Directory Ports & PIX [7:19772]
u can join the domain and then stop replication , it will still work as a stand alone domain controller. -Original Message- From: Evans, TJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Active Directory Ports & PIX [7:19772] You also need to specify what is where ... ... AD servers in DMZ / outside or the client PC's in the DMZ / outside? Hopefully, AD inside ... but then again, hopefully you would use a VPN for the outside boxes to connect. One possible, semi-allowable exception - multiple firewalls; either layered or separate .. AD is supposed to be all encrypted, no? Separate: Running on theory here ... you would still hopefully use a PIX2PIX VPN! But ... I believe TCP ports 135-139 and 445 are used, dunno if all are needed tho'. Layered: We have one client that has the primary firewall, which has the AD server and some Web/APP server ... they also have another PIX behind the first PIX, which then houses some DB servers. I believe, the DB servers were able to join the domain w/o any config changes as they were outbound connections. One issue we had - the DB server registered themselves in DDNS with their INTERNAL addresses so all of the other boxes using AD provided DNS could not reach them address to reach them>. Thanks! TJ -Original Message- From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Active Directory Ports & PIX [7:19772] Allowing a server access to all domain functions completely defies putting it in a DMZ... That means if any one person broke into a box in the dmz, he has access to the entire domain not a good idea.. -Patrick >>> "Dave Luancing" 09/13/01 10:36AM >>> Does anyone know what ports need to be opened in a PIX to allow servers to join the domain and replicate. Thanks, Dave __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20094&t=19772 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Larry Seltzer Article - Someone needs some glassess .. [7:20095]
Don't take this the wrong but if someone read the article when it was first published, one would have seen that he referred to the CCIE cert. If the article was read two or three weeks ago, one would have seen CCIE plainly stated. I read the article several times and I am 100% positive he wrote about the CCIE. I am sure he received a lot of e-mail concerning his mockery of the CCIE, and he changed it. Pretty easy to do on a webpage but not so easy if he put his words in a newspaper or magazine. Too bad someone didn't mirror his article but then again it was so worthless who would waste the space? GO USA!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Haller Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Larry Seltzer Article - Someone needs some glassess .. [7:20077] If anyone actually went and read the article by Larry Seltzer, you would have discovered that he refered to the MCSE certification, not the CCIE. I was ticked at Seltzer at first, but now that I see what he actually wrote, I agree with him. I got my MCSE in a box of CrackerJack !! It has taken over a year for me to gain the necessary knowledge and balls to take and pass the written, and even though my lab stae isnt until May of 2002, I still may not be ready. "minimal Competence" My Pa-too-tie !!! GOD BLESS AMERICA and all those who love her !!! Dish = Chris from Chicago MasterCNE, CCNP, ICNE, MCP __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20095&t=20095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTU Question [7:20096]
Hi Groups, I am a little confused about how the MTU size configured on an interface affects the transmission of packets through that interface. My question is does it affects packets received on the interface or packets transmitted out of the interface? Thanks Lw __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20096&t=20096 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
long wait for TELNET sessions [7:20097]
Please advise me on the below: PC1-PIX--Router--RouterPIXPC2 PC1 = nt-box PC2 = unix box framerelay is connected between the two routers PIX codes are 5.2(6) My problem is that when I initiate a telnet session to PC2(unix box), the tcp session establishes right away. But I have to wait for about 30-60 seconds to see the login screen. What is the potential problem in this? Is it on the pix or on the router? Thanks for any help. Please reply directly to me. -fRANK __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20097&t=20097 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
