RIF FIELDS [7:35268]

2002-02-13 Thread muhammad haroon

Hi , is there any web link which  can help me to memorize and understand
RIF calculation ?Thanks in advance . A Beginner .



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Cisco mc3810 [7:35269]

2002-02-13 Thread Ouellette, Tim

hey all. I just bought an mc 3810.  What's the going rate for one of these
without any modules except the 2 serials and 1 ethernet that it comes with.
I'd like to be able to use this in a home lab to do VOIP testing.  Can I buy
the FXS personality modules or do I need some sort of NM to put those cards
into it.

Thanks group!

Tim




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VPN 3000 Auth. with W2k ActiveDirectory? [7:35270]

2002-02-13 Thread Johan Hjalmarsson

Is it possible to get the VPN 3000 Concentrator to authenticate dial-in
users using an internal Windows 2000 Active Directory, or is it only the
old Windows NT 4 Domain model that's supported?



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RE: Cisco mc3810 [7:35269]

2002-02-13 Thread Bykov Andrey

No, Tim, you don't need to buy any NM.
You can buy: 
MC3810-AVM6 (6 port Analog Voice Interface) - Motherboard for FXS, FXO,
EM
MC3810-APM-FXS (FXS Analog Personality Module) - one per endpoint - analog
telephone
MC3810-HCM6 (6 DSP High Density Voice Compression Module) - Compression
module (if there aren't any inside :) )

Andrey Bykov
CCNP, CCDP

 -Original Message-
 From: Ouellette, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cisco mc3810 [7:35269]
 
 
 hey all. I just bought an mc 3810.  What's the going rate for 
 one of these
 without any modules except the 2 serials and 1 ethernet that 
 it comes with.
 I'd like to be able to use this in a home lab to do VOIP 
 testing.  Can I buy
 the FXS personality modules or do I need some sort of NM to 
 put those cards
 into it.
 
 Thanks group!
 
 Tim




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Voice Error [7:35272]

2002-02-13 Thread Sujal G. Ajmera

Hi, I get this error message on my console when I think a voice call is
terminated.

FAILURE in act_release_timeout

Any pointers on this plz?

Thanks,

Sujal




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Re: VPN 3000 Auth. with W2k ActiveDirectory? [7:35270]

2002-02-13 Thread Pieter Jan Bakhuijzen

Yes, it can be done. I've set up AD with RADIUS for authentication of
dial-in users.
I found a doc on cisco.com for the VPN5000 concentrator, it will probably
tell you enough to figure it out.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/vpn5k-msias.shtml

Good luck.

Pieter Jan Bakhuijzen
iXio Networks
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Re: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]

2002-02-13 Thread Ziyad

what switch did you use for xmodem ???


- Original Message -
From: Wilson, Christian 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:26 PM
Subject: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]


 Begging for help once again . . .

 I have upgraded the flash in a 3640 from the 8 Mb chip to a 16 Mb chip.  I
 did this by installing the second, 16 Mb chip into slot 1 of the
 motherboard, leaving the original 8 Mb in slot 1, for a total of 24 Mb of
 flash memory.  I then installed 12.1, which was the reason I needed to
 upgrade the flash.  12.1 went on without a hitch, but when the router was
 reloaded, it would run for about 30 minutes and then go into rommon mode.
 It did this repeatedly, so I removed the 8 Mb chip, installed the 16 Mb
chip
 into slot 0, and then used xmodem to transfer 12.1 through the console, a
 painstaking two hour task.  Now the file is on flash, but at reload the
file
 is unable to decompress, returning these errors:

 Error: Uncompression of the image failed.
 invalid compressed data-format violated

 Error: zip decompress failed

 ***System received a software forced crash ***
 signal = 0x17, code = 0x7, context = 0x0
 PC = 0x80008094, cause = 0x20, Status Reg = 0x3041f003


 The crc checks are the same as displayed on the software centers web page.
 I have downloaded a new copy of the file and it still did not work.  I put
 the original 8 Mb chip in slot 0 and removed the 16 Mb chip, reloaded a
 fresh 11.3 image, and received the same errors.  What have I done??




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Re: [Re: VOIP Vic-2fx cards [7:34768]

2002-02-13 Thread Patrick Donlon

Sujal

thought it could be case, just couldn't remember as it was some time back,

Thanks


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 Pat and Rich:

 I had a similar problem and got it solved just today.

 What we did was change the IOS and that made a difference.

 Sujal

  Richard
 
  I've had the very same problem some time ago, it was really annoying,
can
  you post the config, it'll probably jog my memory as to what was wrong
 
  Cheers
 
  Pat
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Botham
  Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:13 PM
  Subject: VOIP  Vic-2fx cards [7:34768]
 
 
   Hi All,
  
   I have 2 x Cisco 2621 routers and each have a 2port fxs voice card -
   vic-2fxs installed.
  
   When I plug my phone into port 1/0/0 of a vic-2fxs card installed in a
  2621
   I get dial tone.
  
   When I use port 1/0/1 I do not get dial tone.
  
   Is there any reason for this and what am I doing wrong.
  
   Regards
   Richard
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Re: Adding more VTYs [7:35188]

2002-02-13 Thread Ziyad

I think you eitehr have ip only or ip plus image. You will be needing an
Enterprise feature set IOS for adding vty lines..Check out for a jin the
new IOS

Ziyad
- Original Message -
From: A Mehr 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:50 PM
Subject: Adding more VTYs [7:35188]


 Hi all
 Is there a way I can create additional VTYs on my 2621 Cisco Router ?
 someone told me that the Line Vty 0 n can be used for this purpose , It
 didn't work .
 No clues ?




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RE: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]

2002-02-13 Thread Schneider, Matt

In the book that I read it says that you can only use fast ethernet or gig
ethernet

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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]


Hello

I have been doing some reading on VLANs and Trunking and have read 
conflicting information. Can you use a 10Mbs Ethernet interface when 
running ISL or 801.1q or does the interface have to be FastEthernet? 
Some books/articles I've read say you must use at least a FastEthernet 
interface and others say you can use an Ethernet interface. Note: this 
is for my CCNP lab studies, not a production network.

Thanks
Colin




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RE: RIF FIELDS [7:35268]

2002-02-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.ccprep.com/resources/cc-news/archives/Token_Ring.pdf

enjoy :-)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 09:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RIF FIELDS [7:35268]


Hi , is there any web link which  can help me to memorize and understand
RIF calculation ?Thanks in advance . A Beginner .



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Re: 6000 Hybrid vs Native [7:35216]

2002-02-13 Thread Patrick Donlon

Sorry to spoil the party but I've had a problem with IOS on 6Ks. With
version 12.1(3a)E4, using the console port would put the switch into rommon
mode, the switch would keep running but you couldn't config it, it's a
recognised bug I think. Apart from that though I think it simplifies things
by having just the one set of commands and will be upgrading the Cat OS 6Ks
to IOS

Cheers

Pat


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 Preference of hybrid or native? Compatibility issues with future Cisco
 features?

 Thanks

 Michelle Loechel
 Network Analyst
 Exempla Healthcare
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great ftp [7:35280]

2002-02-13 Thread WW

examaway.myftp.org

login: ex
pw   : ex




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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35261]

2002-02-13 Thread talbotpat

Way to go Chuck!  Perserverance pays off!

Pat
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218
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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35281]

2002-02-13 Thread Joe Morabito

Congrats!

What did you do the last couple of months?  Practice speed?  Or maybe
practice the many little things in IOS?

Thanks!

I too long for a good night sleep


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218
 _
 Comercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html
 Please discuss commercial lab 

Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35267]

2002-02-13 Thread Bob Grafals

Congrats!!!

3:30am and I'm still studying.  Reading about your success helps make it
seem worthwhile.  I hope to join you on the other side soon.

Bob
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218
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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35258]

2002-02-13 Thread Lab Candidate

Thousands of Congrats, Chuck!

--- Chuck Church  wrote:
 All,
 
   I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me, and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
   November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
   Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3 of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
   If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:
 
 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.
 
 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.
 
 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.
 
 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.
 
 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.
 
 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!
 
 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class. 
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.
 
   Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218
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2002-02-13 Thread Chuck Church

All,

I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks also
to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out in
the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the Novell
and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me, and
again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
(Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the bootcamp
labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1 day
format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
nowadays.
Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's book
made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this morning.
Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3 of
the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back and
work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I had
solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5 hours
to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2 an
hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing unconfigured
(a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They said
to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New York,
and there's the email waiting.  8776!
If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this list
that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a huge
asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
were afraid to ask.

Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val Pavlichenko
- Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
found.

Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
that book.

Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company was
cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
and simulation for the test.

Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.  Be
prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the norm
that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
passing before.

Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
sleep.

Thanks again,

Chuck Church
CCIE 8776
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
845-267-4000 x218




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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35263]

2002-02-13 Thread Ahmed Mamoor Amimi

Congrats..
- Original Message -
From: Lab Candidate 
To: Chuck Church ; ;

Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 Thousands of Congrats, Chuck!

 --- Chuck Church  wrote:
  All,
 
  I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
  was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with
the
  thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
  to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
  the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
  together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole
story.
  Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
  and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE
written
  in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
  for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much
more
  than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
  again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
  (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
  labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
  November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
  know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
  format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
  hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
  failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
  nowadays.
  Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
  and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed,
I
  felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
  made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
  Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
  with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
  the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
  work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
  proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
  solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
  change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
  impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
  to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with
1/2 an
  hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10
minutes
  to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
  check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
  (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
  to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
  and there's the email waiting.  8776!
  If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:
 
  Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
  that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names,
but
  there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
  asset to this list.  Thanks guys.
 
  Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP,
but
  were afraid to ask.
 
  Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
  - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book
covers
  most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
  QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
  found.
 
  Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is
in
  that book.
 
  Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
  cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great
preparation
  and simulation for the test.
 
  Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!
 
  Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and
Val
  explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
  little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
  prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
  that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close
to
  passing before.
 
  Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
  sleep.
 
  Thanks again,
 
  Chuck Church
  CCIE 8776
  CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
  Sr. Network Engineer
  Magnacom Technologies
  140 N. Rt. 303
  Valley Cottage, NY 10989
  845-267-4000 x218
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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! (strange) [7:35265]

2002-02-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Millions of Congrats mate,

You know.. it is the stragest thing.. I did the one day lab, one week after
it was released.. and I came out of the lab thinking a 94 is the least I
will get... only to find out that I have failed by a considerably low
mark!
To this date, I am devastated!
I feel that I was being used as a Beta Tester... leagal action coming
up babies 8-

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- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with
the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole
story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE
written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed,
I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10
minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names,
but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP,
but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book
covers
 most everything.  I expect the 

RE: RIF FIELDS [7:35268]

2002-02-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

also http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html

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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:55
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Subject: RE: RIF FIELDS [7:35268]

http://www.ccprep.com/resources/cc-news/archives/Token_Ring.pdf

enjoy :-)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 09:07
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Subject: RIF FIELDS [7:35268]


Hi , is there any web link which  can help me to memorize and understand
RIF calculation ?Thanks in advance . A Beginner .



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Re: Cisco mc3810 [7:35285]

2002-02-13 Thread Duy Nguyen

You need fxs modules.  This router doesn't uses nm's I believe.


From: Ouellette, Tim 
Reply-To: Ouellette, Tim 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
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Subject: Cisco mc3810
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 04:17:14 -0500

hey all. I just bought an mc 3810.  What's the going rate for one of these
without any modules except the 2 serials and 1 ethernet that it comes with.
I'd like to be able to use this in a home lab to do VOIP testing.  Can I 
buy
the FXS personality modules or do I need some sort of NM to put those cards
into it.

Thanks group!

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RE: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]

2002-02-13 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hi Colin,

I have configured a port on a 2900 for 10Mbit and half duplex, and it lets
me issue the command 'switchport trunk encapsulation isl' without any
problems. On CatOS switches, you can issue the command 'show port
capabilities', which will tell you the capabilities of each port.

Regards,

georg


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Ethernet versus Token Ring [7:35291]

2002-02-13 Thread Naeiym Omar

Hi Group

Off the topic really , but can anyone please point me to a Web site where I
can get topics on Ethernet versus Token Ring . Some sales and technical
infomation is needed on why the customer will want to migate from Token Ring
To Ethernet.

Thanks

Naeiym




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Re: Ethernet versus Token Ring [7:35291]

2002-02-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

www.cisco.com/univercd

Naeiym Omar  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi Group

 Off the topic really , but can anyone please point me to a Web site where
I
 can get topics on Ethernet versus Token Ring . Some sales and technical
 infomation is needed on why the customer will want to migate from Token
Ring
 To Ethernet.

 Thanks

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PIX information [7:35294]

2002-02-13 Thread BASSOLE Rock

Hello group,


What command can I use to copy a configuraton form a tftp server to a PIX
Firewall? I have look on the cisco web site for the command but couldn't
find. Can somebody help.

Thank you.

Rock




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RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35286]

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Kesemeyer

Congratulations !!! 

You have been a valuable assets to this group as well.

You passing is well deserved !!

Jeff Kesemeyer
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE
www.bradshawlabs.com
Your CCIE Rack Rental Source
 

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Chuck Church
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


All,

I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th
time was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start
with the thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.
Thanks also to those on the list that I've either studied with or have
helped me out in the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for
putting this great list together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as
well give the whole story. Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years
ago after going though the Novell and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA,
NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written in October 2000.  Without really
knowing how to study or what to prepare for, I got my butt handed to me
in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more than your average CCNP would.
Tried again in April, but BGP killed me, and again I didn't make it to
day 2.  After that, I found a study partner (Thanks Boris) and we worked
pretty hard last summer.  Did all the bootcamp labs, thought I knew
everything I needed to.
November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple
more hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year
and failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a
little nowadays.
Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val,
Bruce, and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my
speed, I felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and
Bruce/Val's book made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I
felt good this morning. Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.
At that point I was done with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.
In other words about 2/3 of the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was
done, but needed to go back and work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.
A little discussing with the proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But
then I think I read too much.  I had solved a problem one way, but
realized the wording of the question might change what they were looking
for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the impression that he really
didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5 hours to go, and I'm making
a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2 an hour to go, I
noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes to go, got
it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double check all
my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing unconfigured (a 2
pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They said
to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York, and there's the email waiting.  8776!
If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short
list:

Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last
names, but there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs)
that are a huge asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP,
but were afraid to ask.

Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
- Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book
covers most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more
multicast and QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most
useful book I've found.

Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is
in that book.

Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great
preparation and simulation for the test.

Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and
Val explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things
are a little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the
class.  Be prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to
11PM is the norm that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if
you've come close to passing before.

Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
sleep.

Thanks again,

Chuck Church
CCIE 8776
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
845-267-4000 x218

Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35257]

2002-02-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Congrats!

It looks like about 20 people a week get the CCIE looking at the last person
who announced his passing.


Chuck Church  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218




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RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! (strange) [7:35284]

2002-02-13 Thread Church, Chuck

I think you hit that one on the head.  Even today, I don't think I could
have passed that test I had in November.  In fact, when our proctor arrived
back in November, we were all waiting for him.  His exact words were:

Wow, you guys are in a hurry to fail.

True story.

Chuck

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Millions of Congrats mate,

You know.. it is the stragest thing.. I did the one day lab, one week after
it was released.. and I came out of the lab thinking a 94 is the least I
will get... only to find out that I have failed by a considerably low
mark!
To this date, I am devastated!
I feel that I was being used as a Beta Tester... leagal action coming
up babies 8-

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Way to go Chuck!  Perserverance pays off!

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- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with
the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole
story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE
written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed,
I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10
minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names,
but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP,
but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book
covers
 most 

Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35257]

2002-02-13 Thread Ziyad

Chuck
Congratz, Congratz, Contratz...

Ziyad
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35257]


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218




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RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35288]

2002-02-13 Thread Church, Chuck

Joe,

I practiced mostly on speed.  Plus some crack and methanphetamines
as well.  Just kidding.  I've got 8 routers at home.  The last couple of
weeks, I've practiced just blasting in the various frame maps as fast as
possible, and then configuring the most bizarre IGP configurations.
Multiple mutual redistribution points, and crazy netmasks all over the
place.  Eventually I got the hang of it, and found the 'distance' command
with it's options after the metric most useful.  I did a little studying of
the 'little' things, but focused mostly on the 'meat and potatoes' of the
lab - IGPs.

Thanks,
Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Joe Morabito
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:47 AM
To: Chuck Church; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776!


Congrats!

What did you do the last couple of months?  Practice speed?  Or maybe
practice the many little things in IOS?

Thanks!

I too long for a good night sleep


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO 

RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35286]

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Kesemeyer

Congratulations !!! 

You have been a valuable assets to this group as well.

You passing is well deserved !!

Jeff Kesemeyer
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE
www.bradshawlabs.com
Your CCIE Rack Rental Source
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Chuck Church
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


All,

I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th
time was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start
with the thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.
Thanks also to those on the list that I've either studied with or have
helped me out in the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for
putting this great list together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as
well give the whole story. Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years
ago after going though the Novell and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA,
NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written in October 2000.  Without really
knowing how to study or what to prepare for, I got my butt handed to me
in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more than your average CCNP would.
Tried again in April, but BGP killed me, and again I didn't make it to
day 2.  After that, I found a study partner (Thanks Boris) and we worked
pretty hard last summer.  Did all the bootcamp labs, thought I knew
everything I needed to.
November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple
more hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year
and failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a
little nowadays.
Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val,
Bruce, and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my
speed, I felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and
Bruce/Val's book made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I
felt good this morning. Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.
At that point I was done with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.
In other words about 2/3 of the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was
done, but needed to go back and work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.
A little discussing with the proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But
then I think I read too much.  I had solved a problem one way, but
realized the wording of the question might change what they were looking
for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the impression that he really
didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5 hours to go, and I'm making
a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2 an hour to go, I
noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes to go, got
it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double check all
my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing unconfigured (a 2
pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They said
to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York, and there's the email waiting.  8776!
If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short
list:

Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last
names, but there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs)
that are a huge asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP,
but were afraid to ask.

Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
- Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book
covers most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more
multicast and QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most
useful book I've found.

Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is
in that book.

Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great
preparation and simulation for the test.

Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and
Val explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things
are a little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the
class.  Be prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to
11PM is the norm that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if
you've come close to passing before.

Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
sleep.

Thanks again,

Chuck Church
CCIE 8776
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
845-267-4000 x218

OT: RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! (strange) [7:35290]

2002-02-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We were all like little lab rats that's what we were...
The gave us a new drug and tried it on us until they got it right (if they
have)



   
   
   
Church,
Chuck   To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
, 'talbotpat'
.comcc: 'Chuck Church'
,
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
,
14/02/2002   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
,
12:02 AM
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: Whew!   CCIE 8776!
(strange)
   
   




I think you hit that one on the head.  Even today, I don't think I could
have passed that test I had in November.  In fact, when our proctor arrived
back in November, we were all waiting for him.  His exact words were:

Wow, you guys are in a hurry to fail.

True story.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:12 AM
To: talbotpat
Cc: Chuck Church; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! (strange)


Millions of Congrats mate,

You know.. it is the stragest thing.. I did the one day lab, one week after
it was released.. and I came out of the lab thinking a 94 is the least I
will get... only to find out that I have failed by a considerably low
mark!
To this date, I am devastated!
I feel that I was being used as a Beta Tester... leagal action coming
up babies 8-

Speedo




 talbotpat

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 x.net   ,

 Sent by: cc:

 nobody@groupsSubject: Re: Whew!   CCIE 8776!

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 13/02/2002

 05:13 PM

 Please

 respond to

 talbotpat









Way to go Chuck!  Perserverance pays off!

Pat
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with
the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole
story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE
written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed,
I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10
minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started 

OT: RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! (strange) [7:35290]

2002-02-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We were all like little lab rats that's what we were...
The gave us a new drug and tried it on us until they got it right (if they
have)



   
   
   
Church,
Chuck   To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
, 'talbotpat'
.comcc: 'Chuck Church'
,
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
,
14/02/2002   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
,
12:02 AM
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: Whew!   CCIE 8776!
(strange)
   
   




I think you hit that one on the head.  Even today, I don't think I could
have passed that test I had in November.  In fact, when our proctor arrived
back in November, we were all waiting for him.  His exact words were:

Wow, you guys are in a hurry to fail.

True story.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:12 AM
To: talbotpat
Cc: Chuck Church; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! (strange)


Millions of Congrats mate,

You know.. it is the stragest thing.. I did the one day lab, one week after
it was released.. and I came out of the lab thinking a 94 is the least I
will get... only to find out that I have failed by a considerably low
mark!
To this date, I am devastated!
I feel that I was being used as a Beta Tester... leagal action coming
up babies 8-

Speedo




 talbotpat

 ,
 x.net   ,

 Sent by: cc:

 nobody@groupsSubject: Re: Whew!   CCIE 8776!

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 13/02/2002

 05:13 PM

 Please

 respond to

 talbotpat









Way to go Chuck!  Perserverance pays off!

Pat
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with
the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole
story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE
written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed,
I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10
minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started 

RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35257]

2002-02-13 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Chuck,

Thanks for all the info.

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Church [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35257]


All,

I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks also
to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out in
the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the Novell
and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me, and
again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
(Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the bootcamp
labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1 day
format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
nowadays.
Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's book
made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this morning.
Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3 of
the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back and
work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I had
solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5 hours
to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2 an
hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing unconfigured
(a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They said
to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New York,
and there's the email waiting.  8776!
If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this list
that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a huge
asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
were afraid to ask.

Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val Pavlichenko
- Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
found.

Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
that book.

Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company was
cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
and simulation for the test.

Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.  Be
prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the norm
that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
passing before.

Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
sleep.

Thanks again,

Chuck Church
CCIE 8776
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. 

Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35257]

2002-02-13 Thread Ziyad

Chuck
Congratz, Congratz, Contratz...

Ziyad
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35257]


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218




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RE: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35288]

2002-02-13 Thread Church, Chuck

Joe,

I practiced mostly on speed.  Plus some crack and methanphetamines
as well.  Just kidding.  I've got 8 routers at home.  The last couple of
weeks, I've practiced just blasting in the various frame maps as fast as
possible, and then configuring the most bizarre IGP configurations.
Multiple mutual redistribution points, and crazy netmasks all over the
place.  Eventually I got the hang of it, and found the 'distance' command
with it's options after the metric most useful.  I did a little studying of
the 'little' things, but focused mostly on the 'meat and potatoes' of the
lab - IGPs.

Thanks,
Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Joe Morabito
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:47 AM
To: Chuck Church; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776!


Congrats!

What did you do the last couple of months?  Practice speed?  Or maybe
practice the many little things in IOS?

Thanks!

I too long for a good night sleep


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO 

RE: PIX information [7:35294]

2002-02-13 Thread Evans, TJ

Config net TFTP_IP:FILENAME ?


Thanks!
TJ

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Sent:   Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:07 AM
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Subject:PIX information [7:35294]

Hello group,


What command can I use to copy a configuraton form a tftp server to a PIX
Firewall? I have look on the cisco web site for the command but couldn't
find. Can somebody help.

Thank you.

Rock
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Re: 6000 Hybrid vs Native [7:35216]

2002-02-13 Thread MADMAN

Yes you can order the SUP in either mode.  

  When converting make sure you  follow every step or you will be RMAing
the sup!!

  Dave

Michael Williams wrote:
 
 Jose Almodovar wrote:
  The onyl thing that I found cumbersome was the
  intial change from Hybrid to Native.
 
 Actually, I found the conversion process quite by the book and
 straight-forward.  Granted I did this on a box with MSFC2 which doesn't
 require the boot-helper image like the MSFC(1) so this simplified things a
 touch.  I recall hearing (or reading, etc. you know that mystery
 source of information) that you could order your 6500s with Native or
 Hybrid, your choice, but by default it comes with Hybrid.
 
 Mike W.
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Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
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RE: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-13 Thread Mears, Rob

This test was not the hardest, maybe the 2nd hardest.  You better study
though. 


Use the Transcenders, they come close to crossing the line as far as the NDA
goes.






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From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CIT Test [7:34856]

It sounds to me like everyone agree to it being either the easiest or
hardest - so it probably won't help answering Joshua's answer very well.

And Joshua, I can strongly recommend Priscilla's flash cards - they helped
me pass the test; Thanks again for that Priscilla.

Good luck on your exam, and have a great weekend,

Ole

~~~
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 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CIT Test [7:34856]


CIT was by the far the easiest for me. I took the Foundation exam before 
that  and it was much more challenging.

Do you know about my CIT flash cards, just for fun? The URL is:

http://www.priscilla.com/cit/toc.html

Good luck. I think you will pass.

Priscilla

At 11:46 AM 2/8/02, Joshua Barnes wrote:
I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday,
I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest
test,
did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that
this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate the
test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.  Let
me know if you guys remember how you felt.

[GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had
a name of winmail.dat]


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]

2002-02-13 Thread MADMAN

Some platfors support it on 10M ethernet with the right IOS:

C2611A#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C2611A(config)#inter e0/1.1
C2611A(config-subif)#enc
C2611A(config-subif)#encapsulation ?
  dot1Q  IEEE 802.1Q Virtual LAN
  sdeIEEE 802.10 Virtual LAN - Secure Data Exchange

  Dave

Schneider, Matt wrote:
 
 In the book that I read it says that you can only use fast ethernet or gig
 ethernet
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Colin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]
 
 Hello
 
 I have been doing some reading on VLANs and Trunking and have read
 conflicting information. Can you use a 10Mbs Ethernet interface when
 running ISL or 801.1q or does the interface have to be FastEthernet?
 Some books/articles I've read say you must use at least a FastEthernet
 interface and others say you can use an Ethernet interface. Note: this
 is for my CCNP lab studies, not a production network.
 
 Thanks
 Colin
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Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
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rtp and frame relay [7:35301]

2002-02-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I want to configure for a FR PVC  rtp which should have a guaranted
bandwidth of
300 k. And 20 k per session.

Can any on help with a solution on IOS 12.09 or 12.1 ?

Thanks

Udo Konstantin




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Mac address [7:35302]

2002-02-13 Thread Kwame

Is it possible to add a dynamic mac address to a cisco catalyst switch?




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Dynamic Mac Address Assignment [7:35303]

2002-02-13 Thread Kwame

Pls ignore my previous post b'cos it's wrongly frame. Here's what I want to
ask:

Is it possible to assign a mac address to a catalyst switch such that the
switch would not use the burned-in-mac but rather use the assigned mac?




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Re: PIX information [7:35294]

2002-02-13 Thread Jose Celestino

PIX-FW1# copy ?
usage: copy tftp[:[[//location][/pathname]]] flash

For instance:

copy tftp://192.168.2.2/configs/pix.cfg flash


Thus spake BASSOLE Rock, on Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0500:
 Hello group,
 
 
 What command can I use to copy a configuraton form a tftp server to a PIX
 Firewall? I have look on the cisco web site for the command but couldn't
 find. Can somebody help.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Rock
-- 
Jose Celestino 
-
Little prigs and three-quarter madmen may have the conceit that the laws of
nature are constantly broken for their sakes.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche




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Understanding BGP (was: Any advice for first attempt at JNCIE [7:35305]

2002-02-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Let me share what made the light dawn for me about BGP:  first 
understanding the problem it was meant to solve, not how the protocol 
proper works or how to configure it on Cisco or Juniper.

It's a reasonable simplification to say that BGP is policy 
controlled.  Therefore, it makes sense to understand what those 
policies are.  I started with the now-obsolete RIPE-181 document, but 
there now is a Routing Policy Specification Language and a fair bit 
of tutorials about it. See http://www.radb.net/  and  for a wide 
range of sources, and also browse the archives of 
http://www.nanog.org. Look for both RPSL and BGP at NANOG.
Another tutorial is at 
http://ncne.nlanr.net/training/techs/2001/0128/presentations/200101-prior2/.

In my new service provider book, due out in April, I found it a very 
different approach to Halabi:  start with the customer (or provider) 
problem definition, map it to RPSL (at least informally), and then 
configure based on RPSL.

There is a freeware conversion program called RtConfig (part of the 
RAtoolset) that will take RPSL and produce about 80% of the BGP code 
for an actual router. You can download the RAToolset and get other 
information at http://www.isi.edu/ra.   RtConfig best supports Cisco 
command language, but will also generate GateD, Bay RS, and RsD 
configurations. I don't know if there is a version specific to 
Juniper, but GateD configuration language is quite close to Juniper. 
The RAtoolset runs on most *NIX boxes.




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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35296]

2002-02-13 Thread Todd Carswell

Chuck,

Congratulations!  Thanks for the good word on NMC-1 because I'll be taking
that class the week of February 25th.

Todd Carswell


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
 140 N. Rt. 303
 Valley Cottage, NY 10989
 845-267-4000 x218
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ISDN line drops at the same time [7:35306]

2002-02-13 Thread Steve Smith

Hey guys and gals this one is very weird. I have a PRI than connects to
a AS5200. All is fine except 1 client. This persons connection gets
dropped everyday at 9:26. TAC has no idea so far. debug shows nothing on
either side. Any ideas? Here is the config. I have been playing with the
mppp and the dialer load-thresh but nothing yet. IP's changed to protect
the innocent.

If I take the ppp multi out of the BRI0 i get an error: ISDN BRI0:
isdn_is_bchannel_available: No Free B-channels

service timestamps debug datetime
service timestamps log datetime
service password-encryption
!
hostname hootie
!
logging buffered 8192 debugging
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip source-route
ip dhcp excluded-address 1.2.3.4 1.2.3.5
!
ip dhcp pool DHCPPoolLAN_0
   network 1.2.0.0 255.255.255.0
   dns-server 1.2.3.4 1.2.3.3
   default-router 1.2.3.4
!
ip name-server 1.2.3.4
ip name-server 1.2.3.5
isdn switch-type basic-ni
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 1.2.3.4255.255.255.0
 ip access-group 121 in
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nat inside
!
interface BRI0
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool-member 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
isdn spid1 5556660101
 isdn spid2 555666444380101
 ppp authentication chap pap callin
 ppp multilink
!
interface Dialer1
 description ISP
 ip address 7.8.9.6 255.255.255.0
 ip access-group 121 in
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache
 no ip split-horizon
 dialer remote-name Cisco1
 dialer pool 1
 dialer idle-timeout 2147483 either
 dialer string 555 class DialClass
 dialer hold-queue 10
 dialer load-threshold 2 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 pulse-time 0
 ppp authentication chap pap callin
 ppp chap hostname hootie
 ppp chap password pootie
 ppp pap sent-username hootie password pootie
!
ip nat inside source list 18 interface Dialer1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 1.2.3.4 9100 6.7.8.9 9162 extendable
no ip http server
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
!
!
map-class dialer DialClass
 dialer isdn speed 56
access-list 18 permit 1.2.0.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 121 deny   udp any eq netbios-dgm any
access-list 121 deny   udp any eq netbios-ns any

deny   udp any eq netbios-ss any
access-list 121 deny   tcp any eq 137 any
access-list 121 deny   tcp any eq 138 any
access-list 121 deny   tcp any eq 139 any
access-list 121 permit ip any any time-range TIME
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 120 0
 transport input none
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 exec-timeout 0 0
 password pootie
 login
!
!
time-range TIME
 periodic daily 0:00 to 23:59
!

Steve Smith MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
Data Networks Technical Manager
Freeliant Inc.
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RE: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Williams

I had read (and understood) that you needed FastEthernet for ISL trunking. 
I'm not for sure about Dot1Q though.  It appears from the post from MADMAN,
that you can indeed perform Dot1Q on Ethernet ports.  But I still think
FastEthernet

I read a post in this thread that on a 2900 switch someone set it for
10-half and didn't receive an error when setting up ISL trunking.  However,
it appears from that post that he's using a 2900(XL) switch (because of the
'switchport trunk' IOS command).  If that's the case, then regardless of
speed/duplex settings, that port is still (technically) a FastEthernet port,
and therefore capable of ISL trunking.  That's my take on it..

Mike W.




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RE: Ethernet versus Token Ring [7:35291]

2002-02-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

Begin padding so URL won't be deleted.
Here's a page with lots of links covering Token Ring:
http://www.nwfusion.com/research/token.html

 -Original Message-
 From: Naeiym Omar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Ethernet versus Token Ring [7:35291]
 
 
 Hi Group
 
 Off the topic really , but can anyone please point me to a 
 Web site where I
 can get topics on Ethernet versus Token Ring . Some sales and 
 technical
 infomation is needed on why the customer will want to migate 
 from Token Ring
 To Ethernet.
 
 Thanks
 
 Naeiym




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Re: 6000 Hybrid vs Native [7:35216]

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Williams

MADMAN wrote:
   When converting make sure you  follow every step or you will
 be RMAing
 the sup!!

LOL Funny you mention that.  It is very true as before I came to this
job, one of the other people here tried to wing it through a conversion
and ended up having to RMA another Sup.. heh...

I followed the instructions on Cisco's website at the following URL and had
zero problems.  (watch for wrap)

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/81.shtml

Mike W.


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RE: Ethernet or FastEthernet [7:35245]

2002-02-13 Thread Oleg Oz

I also belive that it is possible to run isl/802.1Q over ethernet. I
seem to remember reading that the limiting factor was the age of the
ethernet hardware. The originally ethernet chips used in cisco network
modules only supported a fixed frame size. When ISL/802.1Q came along, the
hardware needed to support some additional space to accomadate the VLAN
info. This was a problem with older ethernet chips sets however the newer
hardware supports this. The chip sets used on the FE board did not have this
problem because they were already designed to allow for a larger frame.


 Can anyone verify my recollection???


  Oleg Oz..


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Re: ISDN line drops at the same time [7:35306]

2002-02-13 Thread MADMAN

I take it this is the remote site that dials into the PRI.  Have you
tried a debug dialer?  This will give you and indication of why the call
was dropped and by whom.

  Dave

Steve Smith wrote:
 
 Hey guys and gals this one is very weird. I have a PRI than connects to
 a AS5200. All is fine except 1 client. This persons connection gets
 dropped everyday at 9:26. TAC has no idea so far. debug shows nothing on
 either side. Any ideas? Here is the config. I have been playing with the
 mppp and the dialer load-thresh but nothing yet. IP's changed to protect
 the innocent.
 
 If I take the ppp multi out of the BRI0 i get an error: ISDN BRI0:
 isdn_is_bchannel_available: No Free B-channels
 
 service timestamps debug datetime
 service timestamps log datetime
 service password-encryption
 !
 hostname hootie
 !
 logging buffered 8192 debugging
 !
 !
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 no ip source-route
 ip dhcp excluded-address 1.2.3.4 1.2.3.5
 !
 ip dhcp pool DHCPPoolLAN_0
network 1.2.0.0 255.255.255.0
dns-server 1.2.3.4 1.2.3.3
default-router 1.2.3.4
 !
 ip name-server 1.2.3.4
 ip name-server 1.2.3.5
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 !
 !
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 1.2.3.4255.255.255.0
  ip access-group 121 in
  no ip proxy-arp
  ip nat inside
 !
 interface BRI0
  no ip address
  encapsulation ppp
  dialer pool-member 1
  isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 5556660101
  isdn spid2 555666444380101
  ppp authentication chap pap callin
  ppp multilink
 !
 interface Dialer1
  description ISP
  ip address 7.8.9.6 255.255.255.0
  ip access-group 121 in
  no ip proxy-arp
  ip nat outside
  encapsulation ppp
  no ip route-cache
  no ip split-horizon
  dialer remote-name Cisco1
  dialer pool 1
  dialer idle-timeout 2147483 either
  dialer string 555 class DialClass
  dialer hold-queue 10
  dialer load-threshold 2 outbound
  dialer-group 1
  pulse-time 0
  ppp authentication chap pap callin
  ppp chap hostname hootie
  ppp chap password pootie
  ppp pap sent-username hootie password pootie
 !
 ip nat inside source list 18 interface Dialer1 overload
 ip nat inside source static tcp 1.2.3.4 9100 6.7.8.9 9162 extendable
 no ip http server
 ip classless
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
 !
 !
 map-class dialer DialClass
  dialer isdn speed 56
 access-list 18 permit 1.2.0.0 0.0.0.255
 access-list 121 deny   udp any eq netbios-dgm any
 access-list 121 deny   udp any eq netbios-ns any
 
 deny   udp any eq netbios-ss any
 access-list 121 deny   tcp any eq 137 any
 access-list 121 deny   tcp any eq 138 any
 access-list 121 deny   tcp any eq 139 any
 access-list 121 permit ip any any time-range TIME
 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
 !
 line con 0
  exec-timeout 120 0
  transport input none
  stopbits 1
 line vty 0 4
  exec-timeout 0 0
  password pootie
  login
 !
 !
 time-range TIME
  periodic daily 0:00 to 23:59
 !
 
 Steve Smith MCSE, CCNA, CCDA
 Data Networks Technical Manager
 Freeliant Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The brave may not live forever, but the cautious never live.
-- 
David Madland
Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
612-664-3367

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One Source [7:35313]

2002-02-13 Thread Jason

Be very careful if you are dealing with this company. They were formerly
Grandstore , until the name was trashed like @!#$ and then they became
IQSale , and then THAT name was trashed and now they changed name again.. So
BE CAREFUL !




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RE: PIX information [7:35294]

2002-02-13 Thread Hartnell, George

AND, am I to understand correctly, as the manual is quite vague, that an
upgrade of the primary failover unit also updates the secondary?  Or, must
the hapless administrator do each individually?

Best, G.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jose Celestino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:12 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PIX information [7:35294]
 
 
 PIX-FW1# copy ?
 usage: copy tftp[:[[//location][/pathname]]] flash
 
 For instance:
 
 copy tftp://192.168.2.2/configs/pix.cfg flash
 
 
 Thus spake BASSOLE Rock, on Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0500:
  Hello group,
  
  
  What command can I use to copy a configuraton form a tftp 
 server to a PIX
  Firewall? I have look on the cisco web site for the command 
 but couldn't
  find. Can somebody help.
  
  Thank you.
  
  Rock
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RE: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]

2002-02-13 Thread Scott Nawalaniec

Hi Rik, Anybody,

Regarding formatting the flash from rommon mode. I have looked on Cisco's
website for a couple of hours trying to find the commands to format flash
from rommon and haven't found any useful information. I have looked through
all the commands in rommon and haven't found the commands either. I know if
you tftp a IOS from rommon you can  erase the flash.

Could someone help me on this one.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Rik Guyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]


Did you format the new flash?  I've had issues with corruption adding flash
while existing flash is still installed.  Try to boot to rommon mode and
format the flash.  You should be able to do this with both sticks installed
without too much problem.  Then install IOS, build the config, etc.

Rik

-Original Message-
From: Wilson, Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]


Begging for help once again . . . 

I have upgraded the flash in a 3640 from the 8 Mb chip to a 16 Mb chip.  I
did this by installing the second, 16 Mb chip into slot 1 of the
motherboard, leaving the original 8 Mb in slot 1, for a total of 24 Mb of
flash memory.  I then installed 12.1, which was the reason I needed to
upgrade the flash.  12.1 went on without a hitch, but when the router was
reloaded, it would run for about 30 minutes and then go into rommon mode. It
did this repeatedly, so I removed the 8 Mb chip, installed the 16 Mb chip
into slot 0, and then used xmodem to transfer 12.1 through the console, a
painstaking two hour task.  Now the file is on flash, but at reload the file
is unable to decompress, returning these errors:

Error: Uncompression of the image failed.
invalid compressed data-format violated

Error: zip decompress failed

***System received a software forced crash ***
signal = 0x17, code = 0x7, context = 0x0
PC = 0x80008094, cause = 0x20, Status Reg = 0x3041f003


The crc checks are the same as displayed on the software centers web page. I
have downloaded a new copy of the file and it still did not work.  I put the
original 8 Mb chip in slot 0 and removed the 16 Mb chip, reloaded a fresh
11.3 image, and received the same errors.  What have I done??




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=?iso-8859-1?Q?FYI_-_CERT=AE_Advisory_CA-2002-03_Multiple_=28SN [7:35316]

2002-02-13 Thread Eric

FYI -

If your running SNMP on your networks you'll probably want to check this out.
Just popped up on Cert.org and Cisco.com another DOS technique has reared its
head again.

- http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html#vendors

- http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-malformed-snmp-msgs-pub.shtml

Eric




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Re: FYI - CERT® Advisory CA-2002-03 Multiple [7:35318]

2002-02-13 Thread Frederick R. Carlson

Is there anyting to this?  I, for one, am not happy at all with CERT for
this press
offensive (its in the NY Times as well). Is there any there - there??

Eric wrote:

 FYI -

 If your running SNMP on your networks you'll probably want to check this
out.
 Just popped up on Cert.org and Cisco.com another DOS technique has reared
its
 head again.

 - http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html#vendors

 - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-malformed-snmp-msgs-pub.shtml

 Eric




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Re: FYI - CERT® Advisory CA-2002-03 Multiple [7:35320]

2002-02-13 Thread Frederick R. Carlson

Is there anyting to this?  I, for one, am not happy at all with CERT for
this press
offensive (its in the NY Times as well). Is there any there - there??

Eric wrote:

 FYI -

 If your running SNMP on your networks you'll probably want to check this
out.
 Just popped up on Cert.org and Cisco.com another DOS technique has reared
its
 head again.

 - http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html#vendors

 - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-malformed-snmp-msgs-pub.shtml

 Eric




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Re: FYI - CERT® Advisory CA-2002-03 Multiple [7:35317]

2002-02-13 Thread Frederick R. Carlson

Is there anyting to this?  I, for one, am not happy at all with CERT for
this press
offensive (its in the NY Times as well). Is there any there - there??

Eric wrote:

 FYI -

 If your running SNMP on your networks you'll probably want to check this
out.
 Just popped up on Cert.org and Cisco.com another DOS technique has reared
its
 head again.

 - http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html#vendors

 - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-malformed-snmp-msgs-pub.shtml

 Eric




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Re: FYI - CERT® Advisory CA-2002-03 Multiple [7:35321]

2002-02-13 Thread Frederick R. Carlson

Is there anyting to this?  I, for one, am not happy at all with CERT for
this press
offensive (its in the NY Times as well). Is there any there - there??

Eric wrote:

 FYI -

 If your running SNMP on your networks you'll probably want to check this
out.
 Just popped up on Cert.org and Cisco.com another DOS technique has reared
its
 head again.

 - http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html#vendors

 - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-malformed-snmp-msgs-pub.shtml

 Eric




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Re: FYI - CERT® Advisory CA-2002-03 Multiple [7:35319]

2002-02-13 Thread Frederick R. Carlson

Is there anyting to this?  I, for one, am not happy at all with CERT for
this press
offensive (its in the NY Times as well). Is there any there - there??

Eric wrote:

 FYI -

 If your running SNMP on your networks you'll probably want to check this
out.
 Just popped up on Cert.org and Cisco.com another DOS technique has reared
its
 head again.

 - http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html#vendors

 - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-malformed-snmp-msgs-pub.shtml

 Eric




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Re: Cisco mc3810 [7:35323]

2002-02-13 Thread Ahmed Mamoor Amimi

Please have a look in to the archieves. we have discussed it allot...

-Mamoor
- Original Message -
From: Ouellette, Tim 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: Cisco mc3810


 hey all. I just bought an mc 3810.  What's the going rate for one of these
 without any modules except the 2 serials and 1 ethernet that it comes
with.
 I'd like to be able to use this in a home lab to do VOIP testing.  Can I
buy
 the FXS personality modules or do I need some sort of NM to put those
cards
 into it.

 Thanks group!

 Tim
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RIPS default-network [7:35324]

2002-02-13 Thread Ryn

Hello folks,

I am tring to figure out what RIPs ip default-network command actually
does.
If you have
a router with:

router rip
  network 172.16.0.0
  network 192.168.17.0
  ip default network 192.168.17.0

and the network 192.168.17.0 is on a serial link to a second router. What
does
the ip default
network do? I cannot seem to figure out why one network would be the default.

Thanks for any info,
Ryan




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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re: [7:35325]

2002-02-13 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Can you send your message one more time...I don't think I got it...  
heh

 Frederick R. Carlson  02/13/02 01:25PM 
Is there anyting to this?  I, for one, am not happy at all with CERT for
this press
offensive (its in the NY Times as well). Is there any there - there??

Eric wrote:

 FYI -

 If your running SNMP on your networks you'll probably want to check this
out.
 Just popped up on Cert.org and Cisco.com another DOS technique has reared
its
 head again.

 - http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html#vendors 

 - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-malformed-snmp-msgs-pub.shtml 

 Eric
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Re: Whew! CCIE 8776! [7:35296]

2002-02-13 Thread Todd Carswell

Chuck,

Congratulations!  Thanks for the good word on NMC-1 because I'll be taking
that class the week of February 25th.

Todd Carswell


- Original Message -
From: Chuck Church 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


 All,

 I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
 was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
 thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
 to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
 the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
 together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
 Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
 and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
 in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
 for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
 than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
 again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
 (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
 labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
 November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
 know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
 format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
 hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
 failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
 nowadays.
 Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
 and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
 felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
 made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
 Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
 with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
 the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
 work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
 proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
 solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
 change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
 impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
 to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
 hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
 to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
 check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
 (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
 to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
 and there's the email waiting.  8776!
 If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:

 Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
 that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
 there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
 asset to this list.  Thanks guys.

 Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
 were afraid to ask.

 Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
 - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
 most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
 QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
 found.

 Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
 that book.

 Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
 cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
 and simulation for the test.

 Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!

 Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
 explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
 little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
 prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
 that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
 passing before.

 Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
 sleep.

 Thanks again,

 Chuck Church
 CCIE 8776
 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
 Sr. Network Engineer
 Magnacom Technologies
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RE: Dynamic Mac Address Assignment [7:35303]

2002-02-13 Thread Joseph Brunner

IOS based switch -

3524XL_ATL(config-if)#mac-address ?
  H.H.H  MAC address



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Subject: Dynamic Mac Address Assignment [7:35303]


Pls ignore my previous post b'cos it's wrongly frame. Here's what I want to
ask:

Is it possible to assign a mac address to a catalyst switch such that the
switch would not use the burned-in-mac but rather use the assigned mac?




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RE: PIX information [7:35294]

2002-02-13 Thread Evans, TJ

I believe it sync's them auto-magically, or perhaps on a timed basis.
Regardless ... I always do a wr standby ... just to be sure.


Thanks!
TJ

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Sent:   Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: PIX information [7:35294]

AND, am I to understand correctly, as the manual is quite vague, that an
upgrade of the primary failover unit also updates the secondary?  Or, must
the hapless administrator do each individually?

Best, G.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jose Celestino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:12 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PIX information [7:35294]
 
 
 PIX-FW1# copy ?
 usage: copy tftp[:[[//location][/pathname]]] flash
 
 For instance:
 
 copy tftp://192.168.2.2/configs/pix.cfg flash
 
 
 Thus spake BASSOLE Rock, on Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0500:
  Hello group,
  
  
  What command can I use to copy a configuraton form a tftp 
 server to a PIX
  Firewall? I have look on the cisco web site for the command 
 but couldn't
  find. Can somebody help.
  
  Thank you.
  
  Rock
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CERT Advisory on SNMP [7:35327]

2002-02-13 Thread Frederick R. Carlson

All,
What is the real risk in the newly announced CERT bullitin on SNMP.

Its at : http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html

Thanks in advance,
FRC




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Sorry in advance for the Duplicates [7:35328]

2002-02-13 Thread Frederick R. Carlson

EOM




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SNMP- (S)ecurity is (N)ot (M)y (P)roblem [7:35329]

2002-02-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

It's kind of high but not really.  Most networks have SNMP pretty well
hidden behind firewalls, or turned off if on the net, but if it's open, then
I can ddos you and / or add code into the memory space of the crashed SNMP
process (servers).  There haven't been many attacks reported yet from the
firewall logs people have examined - YET.  Maybe the script kiddies are just
waiting to write the good tools.

But, as I said earlier, a properly designed system will have SNMP protected.

Frederick R. Carlson  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 All,
 What is the real risk in the newly announced CERT bullitin on SNMP.

 Its at : http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html

 Thanks in advance,
 FRC




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CCNP Recertification Test.. [7:35330]

2002-02-13 Thread Devinder Singh

Hello all-

Has anyone taken  recertification test for CCNP?? Any experiences on how it
is ??

Thanks
Devinder




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OT: Unknown protocol on network [7:35331]

2002-02-13 Thread John Neiberger

After watching a sniffer connected to one of our LANs we're seeing a lot
of different clients attempting to reach UDP port 1034 on one of our
primary servers.  The source UDP port is in the range 1026-1033.  I'm
not able to find any good information regarding these ports.

Some sites say that some of these are used by BBN Integrated Access
Devices.  I have no idea what those are and I'm pretty sure we don't
have any around.  :-)

Other pages mention that 1032-1034 are used for rstatd, rusers, and
walld.  Again, I don't really know what those are but it looks like
they'd be more appropriate in a unix context.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
John




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RE: SNMP- (S)ecurity is (N)ot (M)y (P)roblem [7:35329]

2002-02-13 Thread Sean Knox

As demonstrated by the security group, some vendor SNMP implementations
crash when this new test suite is run against them -- even when SNMP is not
actively listening! I do agree about protecting SNMP devices, but this is
much more difficult from INSIDE an SNMP network.

-Original Message-
From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SNMP- (S)ecurity is (N)ot (M)y (P)roblem [7:35329]


It's kind of high but not really.  Most networks have SNMP pretty well
hidden behind firewalls, or turned off if on the net, but if it's open, then
I can ddos you and / or add code into the memory space of the crashed SNMP
process (servers).  There haven't been many attacks reported yet from the
firewall logs people have examined - YET.  Maybe the script kiddies are just
waiting to write the good tools.

But, as I said earlier, a properly designed system will have SNMP protected.

Frederick R. Carlson  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 All,
 What is the real risk in the newly announced CERT bullitin on SNMP.

 Its at : http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-03.html

 Thanks in advance,
 FRC




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RE: CCNP Recertification Test.. [7:35330]

2002-02-13 Thread Johns, John A.

Was not bad, did it at the last Networkers in Chicago...  I think I had an
865, passing was 757...

Although I was working on the CCIE Lab at the time, and the Written was
somewhat fresh...

John A. Johns, CCIE No. 7983, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+
System Engineer
The Hillman Company
1900 Grant Building
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
412-338-3585  Voice
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Subject: CCNP Recertification Test.. [7:35330]


Hello all-

Has anyone taken  recertification test for CCNP?? Any experiences on how it
is ??

Thanks
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Re: Unknown protocol on network [7:35331]

2002-02-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I found three that it could be.  Any of the other ports open listed below?
I hope this comes through readable...

1.  Pal Talk [support page]
(Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!)
IN   UDP 2090 [voice]
IN   UDP 2091 [control stream]
IN   TCP 2090  [file transfer]
IN   TCP 2091  [video listening]
IN   TCP 2095   [file transfer- older versions]
OUT   TCP 5001 - 50015 [text messaging]
OUT   TCP 8200 - 8700 [Firewall / network mode group voice]
OUT   UDP 8200 - 8700 [Firewall / network mode group voice]
OUT   UDP 1025 - 2500 [outbound voice  control stream (user configurable)]

  The last 2 UDP outbound ports are usually set in pairs. 1024 - 1025,
1026 - 1027, etc... Most users never have to set these lower two ports. They
are dynamically assigned if you leave the lower two boxes set to 0's on the
'paltalk port settings' tab.
  Outbound ports are usually not an issue but are listed here for network
users who may need to manually configure for a proxy or NAT server or other
hardware device.

  2.  Everquest (it's a videogame)
  (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!)
  See this Everquest page for more info
  IN   TCP   1024  7000
  IN   UDP  1024  6000
  Note: May have to open this last UDP range even wider



  3.  CarbonCopy32  host on your LAN
  (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!)
  INTCP 1680
  INUDP 1023-1679

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 After watching a sniffer connected to one of our LANs we're seeing a lot
 of different clients attempting to reach UDP port 1034 on one of our
 primary servers.  The source UDP port is in the range 1026-1033.  I'm
 not able to find any good information regarding these ports.

 Some sites say that some of these are used by BBN Integrated Access
 Devices.  I have no idea what those are and I'm pretty sure we don't
 have any around.  :-)

 Other pages mention that 1032-1034 are used for rstatd, rusers, and
 walld.  Again, I don't really know what those are but it looks like
 they'd be more appropriate in a unix context.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks!
 John




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RE: One Source [7:35313]

2002-02-13 Thread Woods, Randall, SOBUS

It's funny that you mention that. I just recently bought a couple of
routers from them off ebay and one of them was dead when I received it.
I took almost a month to get a replacement. The one shipped did work but
during the whole process, they never responded to email and never
initiated a call to me to atleast let me know the status of the
shipment. I guess it could have been worse but how hard is it to send a
freakin' email?

Woody 

-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: One Source [7:35313]


Be very careful if you are dealing with this company. They were formerly
Grandstore , until the name was trashed like @!#$ and then they became
IQSale , and then THAT name was trashed and now they changed name
again.. So
BE CAREFUL !




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Re: Unknown protocol on network [7:35331]

2002-02-13 Thread John Neiberger

We now think that this is related to the Corporate Edition of Norton
AntiVirus.  There is some sort of scanning involved there, but I'm not
very clear on the details.  Our LAN people just rolled this version out
into our network a couple of weeks ago which explains why I wasn't
seeing it in the past.

Thanks for the research!

John

 Steven A. Ridder  2/13/02 1:00:53 PM

I found three that it could be.  Any of the other ports open listed
below?
I hope this comes through readable...

1.  Pal Talk [support page]
(Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!)
IN   UDP 2090 [voice]
IN   UDP 2091 [control stream]
IN   TCP 2090  [file transfer]
IN   TCP 2091  [video listening]
IN   TCP 2095   [file transfer- older versions]
OUT   TCP 5001 - 50015 [text messaging]
OUT   TCP 8200 - 8700 [Firewall / network mode group voice]
OUT   UDP 8200 - 8700 [Firewall / network mode group voice]
OUT   UDP 1025 - 2500 [outbound voice  control stream (user
configurable)]

  The last 2 UDP outbound ports are usually set in pairs. 1024 - 1025,
1026 - 1027, etc... Most users never have to set these lower two ports.
They
are dynamically assigned if you leave the lower two boxes set to 0's on
the
'paltalk port settings' tab.
  Outbound ports are usually not an issue but are listed here for
network
users who may need to manually configure for a proxy or NAT server or
other
hardware device.

  2.  Everquest (it's a videogame)
  (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!)
  See this Everquest page for more info
  IN   TCP   1024  7000
  IN   UDP  1024  6000
  Note: May have to open this last UDP range even wider



  3.  CarbonCopy32  host on your LAN
  (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!)
  INTCP 1680
  INUDP 1023-1679

John Neiberger  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 After watching a sniffer connected to one of our LANs we're seeing a
lot
 of different clients attempting to reach UDP port 1034 on one of our
 primary servers.  The source UDP port is in the range 1026-1033. 
I'm
 not able to find any good information regarding these ports.

 Some sites say that some of these are used by BBN Integrated Access
 Devices.  I have no idea what those are and I'm pretty sure we don't
 have any around.  :-)

 Other pages mention that 1032-1034 are used for rstatd, rusers, and
 walld.  Again, I don't really know what those are but it looks like
 they'd be more appropriate in a unix context.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks!
 John




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Re: cef vs fast switching [7:35183]

2002-02-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

CEF was designed to improve performance on core, backbone routers, that 
handle a lot of dynamic traffic to a variety of destinations. It also has 
major benefits for load sharing. It wasn't designed for an edge router with 
only one egress like you're talking about.

Nonetheless, I think it would still speed things up. The main advantage of 
CEF is that it never has to do any process switching. It can immediately 
use the FIB and adjacency table.

Compare CEF to fast switching. With fast switching, the first packet to a 
Layer-3 destination must be process switched. If you have lots of Layer-3 
destinations, this is especially bad. In that case, CEF would definitely
help.

Packet Magazine did a nice article on CEF here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct00/p94-cover.html

And here's an even better article from TAC:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/20.html

Priscilla


bergenpeak wrote:

   Suppose you have an edge router that has 10 or so connected subnets
   and a default egress route.  This box is not running a dynamic
   routing protocol.

   If one was to enable CEF on this box (over fast switching), would one
   expect to see any/much performance improvement?  This box does not
   support dCEF (72xx chassis).

   Thanks
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Re: Ethernet versus Token Ring [7:35291]

2002-02-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Sometimes if you send something, especially with a url as first line (or
only line), it get's deleted by server.  SO he put in his creative padding.
Michael Williams  wrote in message
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 Daniel Cotts wrote:
 
  Begin padding so URL won't be deleted.

 Huh?




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Re: FW: Number of people passing CCIE [7:35341]

2002-02-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Vaguely fitting this thread, I was once giving a protocols seminar at 
NASA's Kennedy Space Center. During one of my breaks, I eavesdropped 
at one of the classrooms, where a frustrated lecturer on the Space 
Shuttle burst out, this is rocket science, it isn't BGP!


Hmm... That actually sounds like an LSAT question;  Every lawyer passes the
bar exam and every CCIE passes the CCIE lab!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jason Graun
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:58 PM
To: 'Michael C. Popovich'; 'McCallum, Robert'; ''Ccielab' (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: Number of people passing CCIE


I totally agree.  People compare the CCIE lab exam to the Bar Exam but
very lawyer passes the bar exam.  Only the cream-of-the-crop pass the
CCIE exam.

Jason C. Graun CCNP CCDA MCSE
Network Engineering

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Michael C. Popovich
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Number of people passing CCIE

I would say that average is not consistent for an entire month or year.
I would rather be doing this than competing at being a lawyer. :):)

MP

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Subject: Number of people passing CCIE

I see that, from Saturday, that judging by Chucks number there has been
21 people pass since I got my number.  That's an average of 7 per day.
That's a lot, NO?

Robert McCallum CCIE #8757

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Ip subnet Zero Ip classess [7:35340]

2002-02-13 Thread Arnaldo Gomez

Can someone give a gerneral explanation on these two commands?

ip subnet-zero
ip-classless


What do they do and why would you use them?

Thanks. 

Arnaldo


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RE: Ethernet versus Token Ring [7:35291]

2002-02-13 Thread Michael Williams

Daniel Cotts wrote:
 
 Begin padding so URL won't be deleted.

Huh?


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Re: Ip subnet Zero Ip classess [7:35340]

2002-02-13 Thread John Neiberger

This is definitely a topic where you should search the archives.  There
have been some excellent discussions in the past that have resulted in
some great explanations of each of these commands.  It would be better
for you to read them than to have the original posters type them in all
over again.  :-)

Regards,
John

 Arnaldo Gomez  2/13/02 2:44:37 PM 
Can someone give a gerneral explanation on these two commands?

ip subnet-zero
ip-classless


What do they do and why would you use them?

Thanks. 

Arnaldo




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RE: Ip subnet Zero Ip classess [7:35340]

2002-02-13 Thread Sean Knox

Well,

From
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/np1_r
/1rprt2/1ripadr.htm#xtocid12 :

ip classless

At times the router might receive packets destined for a subnet of a network
that has no network default route. To have the Cisco IOS software forward
such packets to the best supernet route possible, use the ip classless
global configuration command. To disable this feature, use the no form of
this command.

Regarding subnet zero, the IOS didn't used to let you assign an address that
was part of subnet zero. It wasn't allowed because it could create an
address that was the same as the subnet address.  Here's a link from cisco
with more lovely info about that and the all one's subnet:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/40.html


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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ip subnet Zero  Ip classess [7:35340]


Can someone give a gerneral explanation on these two commands?

ip subnet-zero
ip-classless


What do they do and why would you use them?

Thanks. 

Arnaldo




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Re: Ip subnet Zero Ip classess [7:35340]

2002-02-13 Thread MADMAN

subnet zero lets you do this:

  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252

  ip classless lets you do this

  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.0.0 and probably more importantly it
will allow a router to forward a packet via a default route even though
router is connected to a subnet of the major network your trying to
reach, i.e. discontiguous.

  Dave

Arnaldo Gomez wrote:
 
 Can someone give a gerneral explanation on these two commands?
 
 ip subnet-zero
 ip-classless
 
 What do they do and why would you use them?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Arnaldo
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Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152]

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Buehler

You were not Lucky that you had nothing in your background.  You made the
right choices.  People who make the wrong choices pay for it their whole
life.  It is called Character.


William Gragido  wrote in message
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 Well, since this is obviously a never ending thread I'll add my 2 cents.
I
 have a Top Secret SCI that is still valid from my active duty period in
the
 USMC.  In regards to joining the service just to get a clearance, I'd say
 thats some of the most low brow thinking that I've ever heard.  There are
no
 guarantees that you'll get one.  It all depends on the investigation and
 what they unearth, so don't be fooled into thinking that simply by
selecting
 an MOS that requires a clearance you'll automatically qualify.  Its not
the
 case.  I saw Marines go through schools only to be turned down for
 clearances.  I was lucky and had nothing in my background that would
 prohibit my from obtaining one, but again, it all depends on what one's
 civilian life is compromised of that helps dictates whehter or not a
person
 rates one.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 John Faubion
 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152]


 Ohh that's a good idea, then when you get orders to Bosnia, Somalia,
Kuwait,
 or Afghanistan, you can be like the whiners of Desert Storm that cried
about
 joining to get an education, not to go to war. Only this time it will be
 about getting a security clearance instead of going to war!

 While you can get a security clearance in the military, it is not valid
 after leaving the military unless it is documented correctly. However the
 reinstatement cost can be drastically reduced since the previous leg work
 has already been done.

 John

 - Original Message -
 From: Steven A. Ridder
 To:
 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152]


  80K!!!  You could always do what I did and join the Army.  If you pick a
  good MOS, you'll get a secret clearance for free while you are in Basic
or
  AIT.  Some jobs I'm sure will give you a top secret if needed.   I bet
 just
  joining the reserves would get you a secret if the MOS called for it.
  Julian Eccli  wrote in message
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   A secret clearance can cost somewhere between $50K-$80K to get all the
   proper paper work and verifications done, hence why they want you to
 have
  it
   already :)
  
  
   -Julian
  
   Patrick Ramsey  wrote in message
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not to mention that if they say it is required they probably do not
 want
   to
pay the $$$ to have it done...hence the required portion of the
job
description.
   
-
Patrick
   
   
   
 Craig Columbus  02/09/02 15:38 PM 
Check the archives of the list.  This has been discussed many, many
  times.
   
Craig
   
At 11:04 AM 2/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
So how does one gain Secret Clearance?
--- Jeff D  wrote:
  The contractor has no say in it. If the government
  says you need a clearance
  to enter the building, then you have to have one,
  period. Why waste your
  time if you don't?
 
  Jeff
 
   wrote in message
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   this Clearance thing is kind of funny.
   I think they should screen someone who is
  qulaified for the position even
  if
   they dont have the Clearance.
  


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2002-02-13 Thread PING

As a new member I want to say Hi to all.
I am pretty sure, you have heard this question before:
I am looking to buy material for CCIE RS written and
lab, so please take few seconds to type your best
recommendation. .
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power session tapes [7:35346]

2002-02-13 Thread IPSec

does anyone know where I can find/order the power session voice tapes? TIA




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Injecting a default route to an IGRP stub router-HOW?? [7:35347]

2002-02-13 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,
I can't seem to figure out how to inject a default route to an IGRP stub 
router  from another router without actually typing in the default route 
cmd.(ip route 0.0) on the stub router itself?

Basically, I have stub router RTA connected to RTB on netw 8.
RTB is connected to RTC and RTD on netw 6 and 7 respectively.
on RTB typed:
#ip default-network 8.0.0.0

on RTA:#sh ip route
No default route injected

on RTB:
#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 s0
#redistribute static under igrp or
#network 0.0.0.0

on RTA:#sh ip route
No default route still.. :-(

No problem with RIP, OSPF, EIGRP or BGP(obviously with the reqd. cmds. for 
them except RIP).

Unless, I type in the #ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 e0 cmd. on RTA, it cannot 
ping any networks past RTB. Why is this so? I thought IGRP does not 
understand the 0.0.0.0 default route(as per Cisco doc.) and thus needs the 
ip default-network cmd. (BTW setting this cmd. on the stub router RTA still 
does not work). Then am I missing something important here??
Please advise.
Thank you.



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Re: Ip subnet Zero Ip classess [7:35340]

2002-02-13 Thread PING

ip classless is used to tell the routing protocols which supports VLSM that
subnet should be sdvertised as part of the route. ip classfull on the other
hand
is used to restrict to use major class subnet mask.

Nadeem
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Arnaldo Gomez wrote:

 Can someone give a gerneral explanation on these two commands?

 ip subnet-zero
 ip-classless

 What do they do and why would you use them?

 Thanks.

 Arnaldo
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Re: Serial (X.21) X-over cables [7:35212]

2002-02-13 Thread Gaz

Joel,

Have a look at www.kg2.com
Kelly Griffin used to post to the group. Not heard of him for a while. I've
noticed he's doing some DB60 to RJ45 converters from March 2002 for around
20 dollars, so one of each DCE/DTE for 40 dollars and you're away - whatever
length you want, and I believe the full crossover cables were around 25
dollars.

I must add I have no links with Kelly or the company and not enough
knowledge of them to recommend, but prices look decent and I know he's been
around a while now.
I keep meaning to buy the same but never got round to it.

Gaz

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 Anyone know the Cisco part number (or pin-outs) for the Cab-x.21MT
crossover
 equivalent ?

 I need to use some back to back serial connections without using a
kilostream
 simulator.

 Any help would be gratefully rec'd.

 Thanks.




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RE: V35 - smartserial cross-over cable [7:35181]

2002-02-13 Thread Ken Corkins

Try this link as a starting point;

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/534/index.shtml

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Subject: V35 - smartserial cross-over cable [7:35181]


Hello,

can anyone tell me the pinout of a V35 - smart serial serial DCE/DTE
cross-over cable and that of a smart-serial-smart-serial dce/dte
cross-over cable? I want to connect a AGS to a 2500 and 2 2500's with
one cable (instead of ordering expensive cable-pairs at cisco).

Thanks in advance

Taco Hettema




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RE: Serial (X.21) X-over cables [7:35212]

2002-02-13 Thread Ken Corkins

Try this Link as a start;

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/534/index.shtml

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Subject: Serial (X.21) X-over cables [7:35212]


Anyone know the Cisco part number (or pin-outs) for the Cab-x.21MT
crossover equivalent ?

I need to use some back to back serial connections without using a
kilostream simulator.

Any help would be gratefully rec'd.

Thanks.




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Re: RIPS default-network [7:35324]

2002-02-13 Thread PING

a default route is used as the out of last resorte. In case router receives
a packet and

it cannot figure out where to send it, it forwards to the default route.

Nadeem
==

Ryn wrote:

 Hello folks,

 I am tring to figure out what RIPs ip default-network command actually
 does.
 If you have
 a router with:

 router rip
   network 172.16.0.0
   network 192.168.17.0
   ip default network 192.168.17.0

 and the network 192.168.17.0 is on a serial link to a second router. What
 does
 the ip default
 network do? I cannot seem to figure out why one network would be the
default.

 Thanks for any info,
 Ryan
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Re: set community no-export V.S. set community local-as [7:35355]

2002-02-13 Thread Hunt Lee

John,

So isn't that Local-AS means can only send routes within the local AS, while
no-export means only advertised to IBGP peers (which means advertised to
only local AS).. so aren't they the same thing - I'm still very confused.

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee
WebCentral


John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 From reading an FAQ on CCO:

 Community Description

 Local-AS: Use in confederation scenarios to prevent sending
 packets outside the local autonomous system (AS).

 no-export: Do not advertise to external BGP (eBGP) peers. Keep
 this route within an AS.

 no-advertise: Do not advertise this route to any peer, internal
 or external.

 none: Apply no community attribute when you want to clear the
 communities associated with a route.

 internet: Advertise this route to the internet community, and
 any router that belongs to it.

 HTH,
 John


 
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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Cebuano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  Aren't these two acvhieving the same purpose? Please tell me
 what i'm
  missing.
  Thanks.
 
  Elmer
 
  In the following example, routes that pass the autonomous
 system path
  access
  list 1 have the community set to 109.
  Routes that pass the autonomous system path access list 2
 have the
  community
  set to no-export (these routes
  will not be advertised to any external BGP [eBGP] peers).
 
  route-map set_community 10 permit
   match as-path 1
   set community 109
 
  route-map set_community 20 permit
   match as-path 2
   set community no-export
 
 
  In the following similar example, routes that pass the
 autonomous system
  path
  access list 1 have the community
  set to 109. Routes that pass the autonomous system path
 access list 2
  have
  the
  community set to local-as
  (the router will not advertise this route to an eBGP peer
 outside the
  local
  autonomous system.
 
  route-map set_community 10 permit
   match as-path 1
   set community 109
 
  route-map set_community 20 permit
   match as-path 2
   set community local-as
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Re: rtp and frame relay [7:35301]

2002-02-13 Thread PING

You can use RSVP on FR. I think RSVP code was in 12.1 first time
but you might wannat try. You can also use priority ququeing with
 CBWQ and allocating a b/w of 300K for voice class.


Nadeem
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 Hi,

 I want to configure for a FR PVC  rtp which should have a guaranted
 bandwidth of
 300 k. And 20 k per session.

 Can any on help with a solution on IOS 12.09 or 12.1 ?

 Thanks

 Udo Konstantin
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subnet mask question [7:35357]

2002-02-13 Thread Simon Yang (ITeX)

We know that 127.0.0.1 is for loopback. 
If we need to assing a subnet mask for it, what the number should be. 
for Class A, the noraml subnet mask is 255.0.0.0
for Class B, the normail subnet mask is 255.255.0.0.
127 is not belong to Class A and B.




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Re: Route-map question [7:34431]

2002-02-13 Thread Hunt Lee

Tom,

Can you please elaborate how the outbound filter with the community tag of
no-export would help... as I'm still not too clear what it will achieve.

And sorry for the stupid question...

Thanks again.

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee



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 I read the question as if Router B should only be used for packets
 _originating_ from AS 202, which should use the T1 connection.  In this
 case an outbound filter would be appropriate, along with a community tag
 of no-export.




 On Mon, 04 Feb 2002 23:43:41 -0500, Hunt Lee wrote:

  I have a Route-Map question that I'm very confused about:
 
  The scenario is from Caslow (p840), it is as follows:
 
  Company A has a full T3 connection to the Internet thru the ISP
  AAA-101.NET. Company B  has a T1 connection to the Internet thru the ISP
  BBB-202.Net. Company A acquires Company B, but Company A wants to keep
  both Internet connections, with the exception of packets originating
  from the AS of BBB-202.Net (BBB-202.Net's AS is 202).  All traffic
  originating from AS 202 will use the T1 Internet connection.
 
  Caslow states in order to do this, the following configs should be used
  on RouterB
 
  router bgp 1000
  neighbor 10.1.1.1 remote-as 1000
  neighbor 172.16.1.100 remote-as 202
  neighbor 172.16.1.100 route-map AS-200-IN in
 
  no ip classless
  ip as-path access-list 1 permit _300$
 
  route-map AS-200-IN permit 10
  match as-path 1
  set local-preference 200
 
  route-map AS-200-IN permit 20
 
  What I don't understand is:
 
  With the set local-preference 200 statement, it directs the traffic
  (routes coming from AS 202 / neighbor 172.16.1.100) to go out via Router
  B. However, what makes the router not passing any other routes (not from
  AS 200)? Wouldn't they still be able to go out thru Router B as well? In
  consideration that the local preference has not been changed on the
  router.
 
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee
  System Engineer
  WebCentral
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Re: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]

2002-02-13 Thread PING

Did you try format disk0: command?

Nadeem


Scott Nawalaniec wrote:

 Hi Rik, Anybody,

 Regarding formatting the flash from rommon mode. I have looked on Cisco's
 website for a couple of hours trying to find the commands to format flash
 from rommon and haven't found any useful information. I have looked through
 all the commands in rommon and haven't found the commands either. I know if
 you tftp a IOS from rommon you can  erase the flash.

 Could someone help me on this one.

 Scott

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 Subject: RE: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]

 Did you format the new flash?  I've had issues with corruption adding flash
 while existing flash is still installed.  Try to boot to rommon mode and
 format the flash.  You should be able to do this with both sticks installed
 without too much problem.  Then install IOS, build the config, etc.

 Rik

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 Subject: Flash upgrade disaster [7:35184]

 Begging for help once again . . .

 I have upgraded the flash in a 3640 from the 8 Mb chip to a 16 Mb chip.  I
 did this by installing the second, 16 Mb chip into slot 1 of the
 motherboard, leaving the original 8 Mb in slot 1, for a total of 24 Mb of
 flash memory.  I then installed 12.1, which was the reason I needed to
 upgrade the flash.  12.1 went on without a hitch, but when the router was
 reloaded, it would run for about 30 minutes and then go into rommon mode.
It
 did this repeatedly, so I removed the 8 Mb chip, installed the 16 Mb chip
 into slot 0, and then used xmodem to transfer 12.1 through the console, a
 painstaking two hour task.  Now the file is on flash, but at reload the
file
 is unable to decompress, returning these errors:

 Error: Uncompression of the image failed.
 invalid compressed data-format violated

 Error: zip decompress failed

 ***System received a software forced crash ***
 signal = 0x17, code = 0x7, context = 0x0
 PC = 0x80008094, cause = 0x20, Status Reg = 0x3041f003

 The crc checks are the same as displayed on the software centers web page.
I
 have downloaded a new copy of the file and it still did not work.  I put
the
 original 8 Mb chip in slot 0 and removed the 16 Mb chip, reloaded a fresh
 11.3 image, and received the same errors.  What have I done??
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