RE: VPN and Outlook [7:17692]
I would also look at your MTU setting on the clientwith the overhead the IPSEC puts on the packet some transmissions will be slow1400 seemed to work the best for us Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 828-485-4803 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Randall Yoo Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VPN and Outlook [7:17692] Judging from the fact that Tom's doing VPN, I'd say 'with Exchange.' I realize that you already have VPN 3000 Concentrator; but, try Netscreen VPN, it's lightening fast. Randall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VPN and Outlook [7:17692] Are you using Outlook w/ Exchange or POP/IMAPing? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Richs Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 08:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VPN and Outlook [7:17692] I have a VPN 3000 concentrator installed. When Microsoft Outlook is launched with the VPN client connection, Outlook is extremely slow. Has anyone encounter this or have any insight on this. Thanks. Tom _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=17724t=17692 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco 2620 lost its configuration each time I restart it!!! [7:10301]
config register 0x2102 Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.485.4803 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magdy H. Ibrahin Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco 2620 lost its configuration each time I restart it!!! [7:10257] Dear All, I have a problem with my Cisco box 2620. each time I restart the box, it lost its conf. even if I typed these commands to save it: wr mem copy run start any idea about this problem??? Magdy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10301t=10301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: port number list on DOS [7:2809]
netstat -a Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: port number list on DOS [7:2809] OK, I have a DOS question that really is relevant to Cisco networking (sort of. ;-) This came up a couple months ago, but I can't find the answer in the archives. What is the DOS command to see port numbers (services) in use on a PC? Someone posted a command that would let you see the list of TCP and UDP port numbers. One of my students asked how to do this and I remembered that there was a command, but I couldn't remember what it was. Thanks, Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2816t=2809 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SPAN [7:2622]
port monitor Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SH Wesson Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPAN [7:2622] On a Catalyst 3524XL, how do I enable SPAN (switch port analyzer) so I can have one port mirror traffic on another port so I can sniff it. Thanks. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2628t=2622 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Access Lists [7:945]
A guy here has asked me a question and I have never done this so I need some helpcan some show me an example of how to write and extended ACL deny/permitting only even or odd addresses? Without permitting each individual address... I have never done this and don't know why you would but I didn't know the answer...thanks in advance Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=945t=945 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cisco works
RE: cisco worksI am running win 2k 512 and dual PII 450's and that seems to do o.k. The more the memory the happier it seems to be! -Original Message- From: Moahzam Durrani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:59 AM To: Chris Boyd Subject: RE: cisco works windows .i am running basics at 256 mg and it crawls...iinerms of processor is a p111 800 ok Mo Durrani IST WYSE\EDS phone:408-473 1246 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:56 PM To: Moahzam Durrani Subject: RE: cisco works Unix or Windows? If Windows I highly recommend lots of RAM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Moahzam Durrani Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cisco works I want to implement cisco works in my campus. Especiall y need it for traffic director. What are decent servers to run this software. ... Mo Durrani IST WYSE\EDS phone:408-473 1246 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rspan
Hey Guys, I need some help configuring RSPAN with my NAM...I have setup my = destination port on my main 6509 but I want to monitor a segment that is = about 6 miles away on another 6509when I try to configure my source = port I get the following error: Corp-Test-6509 (enable) set rspan source 3/1 200 both create Remote span source(s) not supported any ideas and input would be greatly appreciatedI have opened a case = no answers yet...I have scoured Cisco's website so far no luck...IOS = version 5.5.6 thanks guys Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support 828.323.4103=20 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rspan
I have setup the RSPAN vlanas vlan 200 Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Udo Konstantin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Chris Boyd'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:23 AM Subject: AW: Rspan Hi , what about the vlan configuration ? Did you also specify the vlans on the affected router ? Udo -Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Chris Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Marz 2001 18:05 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Rspan Hey Guys, I need some help configuring RSPAN with my NAM...I have setup my = destination port on my main 6509 but I want to monitor a segment that is = about 6 miles away on another 6509when I try to configure my source = port I get the following error: Corp-Test-6509 (enable) set rspan source 3/1 200 both create Remote span source(s) not supported any ideas and input would be greatly appreciatedI have opened a case = no answers yet...I have scoured Cisco's website so far no luck...IOS = version 5.5.6 thanks guys Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support 828.323.4103=20 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rspan
Read that and configured things based on that doc. however, when trying to add the source ports I get the error messageand so far TAC can't figure it out either. Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Moe Tavakoli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Boyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Udo Konstantin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Rspan Look a bit harder: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sw_5_5/cnfg_gd/s pan.htm --- Chris Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have setup the RSPAN vlanas vlan 200.... Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Udo Konstantin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Chris Boyd'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:23 AM Subject: AW: Rspan Hi , what about the vlan configuration ? Did you also specify the vlans on the affected router ? Udo -----Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Chris Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Marz 2001 18:05 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Rspan Hey Guys, I need some help configuring RSPAN with my NAM...I have setup my = destination port on my main 6509 but I want to monitor a segment that is = about 6 miles away on another 6509when I try to configure my source = port I get the following error: Corp-Test-6509 (enable) set rspan source 3/1 200 both create Remote span source(s) not supported any ideas and input would be greatly appreciatedI have opened a case = no answers yet...I have scoured Cisco's website so far no luck...IOS = version 5.5.6 thanks guys Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support 828.323.4103=20 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = _ Moe Tavakoli __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rspan
o.k. they are as follows set rspan vlan 200 rspan 200 RSPAN-Vlan active68 : this is my Vlan for monitoring set rspan destination 8/1 200 Corp-Cat6500-1 (enable) sho rspan Rspan Type : Destination Destination : Port 8/1 Rspan Vlan : 200 Admin Source: - Oper Source : - Direction : - Incoming Packets: enabled Learning: enabled Multicast : - Filter : - Status : active Total remote span sessions: 1 Corp-Test-6509 (enable) set rspan source 3/1,3/2 200 Remote span source(s) not supported this is the part where it errors out and I am not sure why Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Moe Tavakoli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Boyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Rspan Hmmm send me the scenerio and the command you entered (including the RSPAN VLAN and sh vlan stuff) I'll start looking through some 65's here for settings. --- Chris Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read that and configured things based on that doc. however, when trying to add the source ports I get the error messageand so far TAC can't figure it out either. Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Moe Tavakoli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Boyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Udo Konstantin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Rspan Look a bit harder: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sw_5_5/cnfg_gd/s pan.htm --- Chris Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have setup the RSPAN vlan....as vlan 200 Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Udo Konstantin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Chris Boyd'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:23 AM Subject: AW: Rspan Hi , what about the vlan configuration ? Did you also specify the vlans on the affected router ? Udo -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Chris Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Marz 2001 18:05 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Rspan Hey Guys, I need some help configuring RSPAN with my NAM...I have setup my = destination port on my main 6509 but I want to monitor a segment that is = about 6 miles away on another 6509when I try to configure my source = port I get the following error: Corp-Test-6509 (enable) set rspan source 3/1 200 both create Remote span source(s) not supported any ideas and input would be greatly appreciatedI have opened a case = no answers yet...I have scoured Cisco's website so far no luck...IOS = version 5.5.6 thanks guys Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support 828.323.4103=20 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = _ Moe Tavakoli __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ = _ Moe Tavakoli __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVoice problem....
Is it safe to assume you were running all of these software verions 12.08T? That could be your problem.I have 3 3640's and 1 3660 running 12.1(2)T and it runs fine using VOIPjust my .02...good luck Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support 828.323.4103 Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory, NC 28602 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Mustafa Kemal Furat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Edmund Woltynski" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: RE: CVoice problem NO ... I tried it too... -Original Message- From: Edmund Woltynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CVoice problem Check your IOS versions - the earlier versions were buggy (we had the same problem with 12.05) - I seem to recall something along the lines of ver 12.05XK or 12.0(7)XK- was the minimum spec. The latest IOS 12.1 IP Plus works just fine. Check CCO. Andrew Larkins wrote: We had the same problem here - all configs the same, but a dial is garbled. The only solution was to upgrade the software to the same version -Original Message- From: Mustafa Kemal Furat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 February 2001 14:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CVoice problem Hello, Help!... I have a problem One of our customer using 2600 (IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IS-M), Version 12.0(2a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) series FXS and FXO voice cards and 3640 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) EM voice cards on their WAN and running VoIP, We replaced the 3640 with a 3660 IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3640-IS-M), Version 12.0(8), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) FXS voice cards Now we have voice problem. Whenever we try to place a call we hear only some strange noises Do you know the reason?... or can we solve it?... (Any solution other than IOS upgrade will be highly appriciated) Thanx _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Regards Edmund Woltynski Ph: 08 83711492 Fax: 08 82971774 Mobile: 0414841704 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PSCS web: http://www.pscs.com.au 48 Spring Street NORTH PLYMPTON 5037 State: South Australia Country: Australia ___ The information transmitted by the following e-mail is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any interception, review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. If you received this communication in error, please contact us immediately at (618) 83711492, and delete the communication from any computer or network system. - _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Router Rack now online
Original Message - From: "Free Cisco Online Study Tests" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "List Member" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Router Rack now online Free Cisco Online Study Tests - http://www.thetestpage.net --- ListBot Sponsor -- Dial 800-555-TELL. Instant updates - One free call. Sports, stocks, driving directions... much more! http://www.bcentral.com/listbot/tellme1 -- TheTestPage.Net's router rack is now available online. You can read more about it on the website. Right now if you are 1 of the 1st 2 people to donate a working token ring MAU to the rack, then you will get 10 free hours of rack time. So email mail me if you have one that you can part with and we'll set you up on the rack. Also if you use the rack and refer a friend you will receive a discount on your purchase. Have fun. Rich Russell __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SNMP
Compaq also has a free SNMP utility that will allow you to walk the MIB tree and only query certain devices and is not very resource intensive at all.it is called CNMS and it is downloadable or usually comes free on the Smart Start cd-rom if you have access to onealso might want to think about MRTG.Good Luck! Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support, CCNA Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Pierre-Alex" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Circusnuts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: RE: SNMP Thanks Phil, I will post the URL when I find them. Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:38 PM To: Pierre-Alex Cc: Cisco Subject: Re: SNMP I downloaded both about 4 or 5 months ago (I didn't save the Hyperlinks). Keep in mind, both of these applications are memory hogs. I know Open View's trial software alows up to 200 or so devices. Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Pierre-Alex" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Circusnuts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: RE: SNMP Is it downloadable from Cisco/HP Website or do I have to order the software? Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:08 PM To: Pierre-Alex Subject: Re: SNMP Demo Cisco works 2000 Demo OpenView - Original Message - From: "Pierre-Alex" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: SNMP I am looking for a free utility that will allow me to experiment querying the MIB database of a switch. Is there such a thing? Pierre-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using uplink to connect to server
Yes... Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Watson, Rick, , OUSDC" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: Using uplink to connect to server Knowing that this is not common practice, but I was wondering if it was possible to connect a "host" (server) to one of the uplink ports on a switch? Was wondering if there would be any difficulties involved with this? Has ayone attempted this uncommon practice? Thanks. Rick Watson Network Engineer OUSD(Comptroller) 703.697.5710 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hyperterminal problem
Do you have Palm Software running (hot sync)...or anything else using = COM1? Turn that off and it should work --=20 Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com "Benjamin Walling" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message = 91t5t0$tmc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:91t5t0$tmc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Not really a Cisco question (directly), but everyone here should have = ample experience using COM ports to get consoles =20 Hyperterminal is saying 'Unable to open COM1'. This port on this = laptop has been working fine for months, and this just started. I've deleted the = COM port in Windows, reloaded BIOS defaults, and let Windows find it = again, but it doesn't help. =20 Anyone else have/solve this problem? =20 =20 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: = http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco 3524 XL EN problem
Try spanning-tree portfast... Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "atif" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco group study" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:14 AM Subject: cisco 3524 XL EN problem i have installed a cisco 3524 xl en switch, i am facing a weird kind of = problem i hope u guys will help me solve this problem. the problem is that when a pc is connecte to switch for the 1st time it = takes about 4 to 5 minutes for the switch to communicate with the = machine.The led on both sides shows green light even when its not = communicationg and the ping request is timed out. then after that it takes about 1 minute for computer to see the switch = if we take the connecter out of the switch and inserts again. now todays it happened that after the weekend when computers were = started some were communicating and many were not and all leds were = showing green lights and after one hour or so every thing was = normalized. i havent seen this sort of problem before, this switch at the moment is = running at default configuration and connected to a router to a vsat = link. i havent assigned ip add info so far , can this be a problem( i dont = think so).=20 can any body figure it out what is the problem, is something wrong with cabling,switch or NIC. atif _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna test 507
Jennifer, I say just got and take it with an open mind and see how you doif you don't pass who cares at least you will know what to study on for next timegood luck Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNA Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Cribbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:37 PM Subject: ccna test 507 This may seem ridiculous to alot of you, but I am forging ahead with my question and I sure hope someone can offer me advice or help: I am finishing up in the cisco academy in mid-month and naturally, we use cisco press materials. I have been taking these classes for 4 semesters. I am taking the CCNA next Monday morning. I feel prepared or so I thought until I looked at a Sybex book for ccna today. It has so much more material in it and is so much more thorough, that I am wondering what the heck I am doing taking this test Monday morning. It has stuff I have never heard of, or considered. I am scared to death. I have the transcender software and take all the on-line stuff I can get my hands on, and I study constantly with the material that I have, but this sybex book has thown me for a loop. The stuff I have, I know well, but that's all I know. I have never even heard of a 1900 switch until today. In school, switches are switches. No specifics. My question: Is cisco press and transcender enough if you know THAT stuff really really well??? (I can tell I definately want sybex material for ccnp..) Is sybex just so much better than cisco press that it gives more info than you need for future preparations in testing? Opinions, advice, critisms...nothing rejected... Thanks, Jennifer Cribbs Have a Good Day!! Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice on the Network
Kevin, I agree totally we have been battling VOIP troubles for a while and almost from the outset Cisco's advise was upgrade. However, the upgrades are usually to the ED version on IOSBut in their defense since they are new to Voice arena they are constantly making changes, so we may not see a GD series for a while...but we are currently running 12.1.2T ED have had no problemsin a mixed environment of IP, IPX, and DLSWgood luck! Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th St SW Hickory NC 28603 828-323-4103 www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Voice on the Network Dear Group, I'm sure some of you must be looking at VoIP for your various organizations. For the data side, we have a policy of only using GD for IOS on the backbone. For telephony, you need to have a "T" version of the IOS but no "T" version of the IOS is GD. When we phoned up Cisco Tac just yesterday they didn't have any insight into when a "T" series IOS will be GD. So, what do you guys think? On one hand Cisco is pushing Avvid et al - but on the other hand they don't seem to be supporting IOS sufficiently to those of us who like the feel of GD. Isn't this contradictory? (and you might well ask - what's new..) Kevin Wigle _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CiscoWorks 2000
minimum requirements are 450 Mhz. PIII with 256meg of memory and 4 GB of hard drive space...that is for a network with up to 500 devices... Thanks, Chris BoydNetwork SupportAlex Lee, Inc.120 4th St SWHickory NC 28603828-323-4103www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: Simon Watson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:08 PM Subject: CiscoWorks 2000 Hi Guys Can someone tell me what are the minimum system spec(hardware software) I need toinstall Ciscoworks 2000 for NT on a System. Many Thanks Simon Watson Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VOIP Troubles
All right guys I need some help I have been working with Cisco for a while now on a VOIP issue. The problems lies in both call disconnects and voice distortion. We have followed all the steps for traffic shaping (QOS) and rtp header-compression but these do not seem to help. We have 150 remote sites all running 2600's with FXS modules that all come back into the host site where we have 2 7206's.Each of these links are 56k frame-relay links with 16k CIR running very few applicationsmostly small transactionsand Citrix clients. The call must then traverse two internal Ethernet segments, routing through our 6509 backbone switch and then into a 3640 before hitting the PBX. Cisco seems to think that we need to increase our bandwidth to support the voice traffic, however, that is not something I have been able to sell to the "powers that be". We sold this idea on cutting cost and in our estimations for upping the CIR to even 32k will be significant cost increase. Right now I am shaping to 16k with an 8kcommitted burst so at any one time I should be able to burst to 24k. Assuming that I am able to burst to port speed (56k)why would I have call distortion unless there is some latencycoming through the ISP's switch? We also have another company site that also comes back in this way and we have no problems with those calls.O.K. that being said (and hopefully not too confusing to follow) here come the questions: 1. Has anyone else implemented VOIP in slow links successfully? 2. Is anyone else having QOS problems with their VOIP implementations? 3. Do I need to prioritize the voice traffic through the local network? 4. Has anyone tried turning off traffic shaping and letting the voice and data compete for bandwidth? Thanks in advance for your feedback! Thanks, Chris Boyd, CCNANetwork SupportAlex Lee, Inc.120 4th Street SWHickory, NC 28601(828) 323-4103http://www.alexlee.com
Re: IPX Problem
It sounds like your running an IOS that doesn't have IPX includedtry upgrading your IOS Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support CCNA Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th Street SW Hickory, NC 28601 (828) 323-4103 http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Shane Stockman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: IPX Problem This might seem silly but I am trying to enable ipx routing on my router and it just keeps telling unrecog command , even though I am in global config mode.When I do a ipx ? , i get unrecog command in global config mode.Same with apple IOS (tm) 1600 Software (C1600-Y-L), Version 12.0(3), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Thanks _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which is better ?
There must be some misunderstanding hereCisco's DNS/DHCP software runs on an NT server and is not router based! The software is very robust and has an easy understandable UI...The question was which was better Microsoft or Cisco...for us Cisco's was b/c it gives us DDNS and "failover" capability for our DNS/DHCP servers which is not built into the Microsoft version - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Boyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:25 AM Subject: Re: which is better ? Router-based DHCP is often used for home/SOHO environments with NAT overload to get many machines over a single serial line, especially in conjunction with, for instance, 'ip address negotiated' on a Dialer interface. The Inside interfaces generate DHCP using the negotiated serial interface. On a larger scale, other options are much better. Jeff Kell [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which is better ?
Yes Runs on Win2k and you can download a free eval copy at http://www.cisco.com Can't remember what we paid for it.just download it and check it out...it has been a life saver for us...we had one server go down (bad power supply). The failover feature saved our butss...so check it out! - Original Message - From: "Ryan Finnesey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Chris Boyd'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:55 PM Subject: RE: which is better ? What is the cost of this Software? Are you running this in a Win2k endearments ? Ryan V. Finnesey Network Administrator @tmosphere Interactive 1375 Broadway, 11th floor New York, NY 10018 212 827 2507 phone 212 827 2525 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message----- From: Chris Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 6:18 PM To: Jeff Kell Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which is better ? There must be some misunderstanding hereCisco's DNS/DHCP software runs on an NT server and is not router based! The software is very robust and has an easy understandable UI...The question was which was better Microsoft or Cisco...for us Cisco's was b/c it gives us DDNS and "failover" capability for our DNS/DHCP servers which is not built into the Microsoft version - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Boyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:25 AM Subject: Re: which is better ? Router-based DHCP is often used for home/SOHO environments with NAT overload to get many machines over a single serial line, especially in conjunction with, for instance, 'ip address negotiated' on a Dialer interface. The Inside interfaces generate DHCP using the negotiated serial interface. On a larger scale, other options are much better. Jeff Kell [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which is better ?
Hey guys, We have the Cisco Network Registrar in place ad for us it works greatwe have much more control than we had with Microsoft'sCisco's version has DDNS capability and unless your talking about moving to Win2k Server and running DHCP off of that I recommend Cisco's Network Registrar Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th Street SW Hickory, NC 28601 (828) 323-4103 http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:13 AM Subject: Re: which is better ? NT Antonius Kurniadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dear groups, I want to implement DHCP to our networks (20 sites). Which is better DHCP from Cisco Router or DHCP from Windows NT ? Thanks in advance. Anton **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unspecified Card
I know that module will work in a 3600 not sure about a 2600 Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th Street SW Hickory, NC 28601 (828) 323-4103 http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Gabriel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Unspecified Card ""alex campbell"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello all, I have a cisco 2620 router...running IOS 12.0, I have also just got a 4T serial card, every time I power up the router...I get the message 'Unspecified Card in Port 1'. I have tried differend versions of IOS 12 all to no avail. I get the Green EN light on the card to illuminate once the router powers up, but then it turns itself off again. Any help much appreciated Alex Not compatible. You can use an NM-4A/S if you don't need faster than 128K; otherwise, use two WIC-2T's. (If you're already using your WIC slots, you can get an NM-2W which will give you 2 more WIC slots.) **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Router Bootup Problem
In Rommon mode if you type tftpdnld it will give you instructions on how to download a new IOS to the Flash pat attention to syntax it is case sensitive and at the end type reset to reload the router! You should be all set after that! Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th Street SW Hickory, NC 28601 (828) 323-4103 http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Peter Gray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:59 PM Subject: Router Bootup Problem I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after starting. IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg to 0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message. System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc. TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory device does not contain a valid magic number boot: cannot open "flash:" boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:" System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc. TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory device does not contain a valid magic number boot: cannot open "flash:" boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:" System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc. TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory rommon 1 Any comments! _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tftp
OH Shxx Try Again! Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th Street SW Hickory, NC 28601 (828) 323-4103 http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Magnus Thorne" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:38 PM Subject: tftp When tftping a new firmware... ! means good packet . means no packet? O means ??? thanx, -Mag Magnus Thorne eVoice, Inc. 1394 Williow Road Menlo Park, CA 94025 Direct: 650.330.3974 Main: 650.330.3700 Cell: 650.799.6887 Fax: 650.330.3901 eVoice. The best voicemail you can buy is free. Sign up at www.evoice.com or call 1.800.GET.EVOICE **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stuck in ROMMON mode
I might be wrong but I have had this happen before...let the person down there do it...otherwise more headaches and extended down time. Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th Street SW Hickory, NC 28601 (828) 323-4103 http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "Rodney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CiscoGroupstudy Com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: Stuck in ROMMON mode First time posting, so bare with me. Need help with this, I was doing IOS upgrade to a 3640 remote router. The router was downloading from TFTP server when it crashed. I am able to do a reverse telnet to if from a 7206 aux port. I can't copy the 3640 IOS software to the 7206 flash, 7206 keeps disconnecting. I can go from a AS5200 aux to the 3640 console, but it won't reverse telnet for some reason. While I'm in reverse telnet to the 3640, I can change the confreg, but then it just keeps reloading. Any ideas? My last option is to have a local person go this morning, download tftp software and the IOS and try to boot tftp. We tried to do a remote Xmodem, but it timed out. We will be trying Xmodem locally today. Rodney Love Info Avenue Internet Service 803.802.6508 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: May I ask you a question?
What routing protocol are you using rip, igrp, eigrp, bgp? If (igrp/eigrp) on the secondary interface at the customer site add the bandwidth delay x the router will determine the route Thanks, Chris Boyd Network Support Alex Lee, Inc. 120 4th Street SW Hickory, NC 28601 (828) 323-4103 http://www.alexlee.com - Original Message - From: "kwon, jun young" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:15 AM Subject: May I ask you a question? Dears everybody. I have a question of configuring my router. I have 2 leased lines circuits to customer. I want to use one line as a primary line, the other as a backup line to a primary line. To configure the second line as a backup line, i used "the backup delay, backup interface serial" interface configuration command. but, how do i do customer's router? i will appreciate for your reply. Thanks. -- Kwon, Jun Young CENTRAL DATA COMMUNICATION OM OFFICE Internet OM Division, Seoul, KOREA TEL : +82-2-766-5901~2 E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]