Re: enquiry on CCNP 2.0 expiration--urgent! [7:48873]
You can take the 3.0 exam to complete your CCNP but you will be CCNP 2.0 certified, not that there's anything wrong with that. JR Sim, CT (Chee Tong) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I had completed my CCNP support 2.0, Remote Access 2.0, Switching 2.0. When I want to register for CCNP routing just now, the telephone operator told me the CCNP 2.0 routing exam is expiring and I can only take CCNP routing 3.0. I am very sad and worry. I want to know if I want to be a CCNP , how many exam that I have to take, just the Routing 3.0 or I have to take the four more paper--routing 3.0, Remote Access 3.0, Switching 3.0, support 3.0. Besides, if they allow me to get my CCNP with just taking one more paper routing 3.0. The CCNP that I get is CCNP 2.0 or CCNP 3.0 Please help CT == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48913t=48873 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
enquiry on CCNP 2.0 expiration--urgent! [7:48873]
Hi, I had completed my CCNP support 2.0, Remote Access 2.0, Switching 2.0. When I want to register for CCNP routing just now, the telephone operator told me the CCNP 2.0 routing exam is expiring and I can only take CCNP routing 3.0. I am very sad and worry. I want to know if I want to be a CCNP , how many exam that I have to take, just the Routing 3.0 or I have to take the four more paper--routing 3.0, Remote Access 3.0, Switching 3.0, support 3.0. Besides, if they allow me to get my CCNP with just taking one more paper routing 3.0. The CCNP that I get is CCNP 2.0 or CCNP 3.0 Please help CT == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48873t=48873 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26606]
I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? FYI, you can monitor your cert. progress and the expiration date for each certification you earned through http://www.galton.com/~cisco. HTH Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26629t=26606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26606]
Dear firends, I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? Thanks. JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26606t=26606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26606]
No Stefan# Dear firends, I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? Thanks. JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26611t=26606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26613]
See Cisco's website under 'certifications' for information on your certifications and when they have to be renewed. I am in the same boat...and if I could remember my certification account password I'd look it up and tell you. Dear firends, I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26613t=26613 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA 1.0 and CCNP 2.0 [7:26606]
No, passing any higher level exam recertifies you at the lower level as well. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Juan Blanco wrote: Dear firends, I have a question here, I got my CCNA 1.0 before and I completed the CCNP 2.0 today. Do I need to re-exam CCNA 2.0?? Thanks. JB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26615t=26606 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CIT for CCNP 2.0
Hello all, I didn't find CIT that difficult. Just make sure you know all the debug commands for ISDN and PPP, remember that the LEDs on a cat5500 can help you when there is a problem with the switch. The rest of the test is common logic basically. Good luck = Panayiotis PsihoyiosSyNET S.A. CCNP (Security, ATM), CCDP, MCP 118 B, Agias Eleoussis Street Network EngineerGR 151 25 Maroussi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Athens - Greece Tel:++ 301 61 29 500Fax: ++ 301 61 25 313 = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIT for CCNP 2.0 any idea how difficult CIT is ? i found the rest three of CCNP pretty easy !! anything worth a mention ? - Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CIT for CCNP 2.0
any idea how difficult CIT is ? i found the rest three of CCNP pretty easy !! anything worth a mention ? - Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CIT for CCNP 2.0
you will find it easiest of them all!!! Cheers!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIT for CCNP 2.0 any idea how difficult CIT is ? i found the rest three of CCNP pretty easy !! anything worth a mention ? - Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT for CCNP 2.0
I used the Support exam cram book ..Very good resourceand 2 weeks of study.passed on sat with an OK-ish 759. steve From: "Igor Glavanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Igor Glavanic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CIT for CCNP 2.0 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:51:35 +1100 I think you should use Cisco Internetwork troubleshooting ISBN: 157800922 Cheers Igor Glavanic _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT for CCNP 2.0
I think you should use Cisco Internetwork troubleshooting ISBN: 157800922 Cheers Igor Glavanic _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT for CCNP 2.0
the answer to #3 is no. You have to just type in the command. Neil Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... i am taking my CIT exam next week. answers to one or more of the following clarifications will highly be appreciated. 1. i am using ISBN 81-7635-210-1. is this the right book of cisco press that i should be using ? 2. what series of catalyst switches are covered in LAN troubleshooting ? 3. in CIT, do you still have the option of selecting the right command from the command list ? sathesh - Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About CCNP 2.0 Supporting
Hi i think the CIT book from CiscoPress is more than enough to pass. I studied the book and pass it with 887. But i think this test is the most difficult n tough as compared to other CCNP exams wangjun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 20010224060804.RTML15501.qd_mail3@june">news:20010224060804.RTML15501.qd_mail3@june... Can someone offer me resouce of CCNP 2.0 supporting ,I had test 640-506 at Feb 21 but failed in 644. I found Cisco's test is different from even and I need some new resouce about CiscoPress.com published .I had told if someone can get Cisco CIT training resouce he can easy pass this test .Help Me , I will give back it soon if someone can lend me . Ö Àñ£¡ wangjun [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
About CCNP 2.0 Supporting
Can someone offer me resouce of CCNP 2.0 supporting ,I had test 640-506 at Feb 21 but failed in 644. I found Cisco's test is different from even and I need some new resouce about CiscoPress.com published .I had told if someone can get Cisco CIT training resouce he can easy pass this test .Help Me , I will give back it soon if someone can lend me . Ö Àñ£¡ wangjun [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP 2.0 Practice Exams
Geting ready to test for my switching, routing, etc. and wanted to take some practice exams. If anyone has some and are willing to share them, I'd appreciate it greatly. John Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?
Listmembers, I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was underwhelmed. I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind, and used the BSCN guide. Even using this guide almost exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days study. I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from the pool. It doesn't bode well for the value of this certification if the bar is significantly lowered. I hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with the ACRC. Even at this level, it would still be a relatively easy exam. Does anybody else feel the same way? I don't want to see the value of this certification which so many of us are spending a considerable amount of money and time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards. If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their passing grades/exam development. If I am way out in left field on this, my apologies to the list for lowering the s/n ratio:P Best regards, Geoffrey Zinderdine CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?
Listmembers, I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was underwhelmed. I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind, and used the BSCN guide. Even using this guide almost exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days study. I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from the pool. It doesn't bode well for the value of this certification if the bar is significantly lowered. I hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with the ACRC. Even at this level, it would still be a relatively easy exam. Does anybody else feel the same way? I don't want to see the value of this certification which so many of us are spending a considerable amount of money and time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards. There are several fundamental issues here. First, contrary to popular belief, it isn't in Cisco's interest to keep the pool of certified people small -- AS LONG AS the pools at each level can do the job. From Cisco's principal perspective, the first purpose of the certification program is to facilitate Cisco's outsourcing of support to resellers. Yes, they certifications do have other benefits, but that is Cisco's principal corporate goal. I honestly don't know if someone in Cisco is doing something as rational as saying what tasks should a BSCN certificated person be able to do, as opposed to what general knowledge such a person to have. But if they have, it may not be inconsistent to lower standards if they feel the standards are getting in the way of sales and support. If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their passing grades/exam development. If I am way out in left field on this, my apologies to the list for lowering the s/n ratio:P Best regards, Geoffrey Zinderdine CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?
Hi all, I found a CCNP set of Cisco Press ACRC, BCRAN, CLSC, CIT books. Can I use those books for new CCNP exams ? And what other topics do I need to study in addition to that? Alec, __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?
Hello there, I think BCRAN and CIT are ok . for BCSN you need to have the knowledge of ACRC ( check the exam outlines to know what to read from this book ) you need know BGP . for BCMSN you need to have the knowledge of CLSC ( check the exam outlines to know what to read from this book ) multicasting . but the best think is to get the book which are relevant to the exam I will say. I hope that will help Alec Smiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I found a CCNP set of Cisco Press ACRC, BCRAN, CLSC, CIT books. Can I use those books for new CCNP exams ? And what other topics do I need to study in addition to that? Alec, __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP 1.0 books are enough for CCNP 2.0
Hi list, I have a CCNP 1.0 set from Cisco Press including 4 books. Can someonetell me what additional topics do I need to study ? Or is it necessary to buy CCNP 2.0 set Thanks in advance, Alec, __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?
Geoffrey, I disagree somewhat. For me what's valuable is the learning/knowledge acquisition process. Too many folks come to see an exam or a cert as the be-all end-all. Which is understandable, because everyone wants a reward for all their hard work. But it's more satisfying in an enduring kind of way to take stock of everything you made yourself learn that you did not know before, and otherwise might not make the time to learn. Before BSCN I didn't know jack about BGP, but now I'm better informed and that in itself is a good thing. Second, the availability quality of study materials for CCNP v2 are improved over the situation that existed for v1. That helps a lot. In addition, it seems Cisco aimed to bring the scope of v2 questions more in line with its official course content. That, too, helps, and I think is a welcome development. My first exam was the old CLSC--I had 2 obscure questions on Cat 3xxx hardware that I could not, later, find the answers to in any published Cisco documentation. What was the point of asking such questions? Third, I don't think a Cisco cert will be as devalued as the perfectly worthless MCSE cert anytime soon. I've been teaching MCSE classes for a number of years and sometimes hear from students: "Why did you spend so much time on the subnetting stuff, it was not on the TCP/IP exam!" Or, "I don't have time to come to class, just tell me where I can find the Transcenders." etc. etc. Many hiring managers are aware of this devaluation, which was brought about by Microsoft putting Marketing above everything else. If Cisco starts to go down that road, then we can be concerned, but not to worry yet! Kathy "Katyusha" M. CCNP Security -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0? Listmembers, I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was underwhelmed. I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind, and used the BSCN guide. Even using this guide almost exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days study. I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from the pool. It doesn't bode well for the value of this certification if the bar is significantly lowered. I hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with the ACRC. Even at this level, it would still be a relatively easy exam. Does anybody else feel the same way? I don't want to see the value of this certification which so many of us are spending a considerable amount of money and time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards. There are several fundamental issues here. First, contrary to popular belief, it isn't in Cisco's interest to keep the pool of certified people small -- AS LONG AS the pools at each level can do the job. From Cisco's principal perspective, the first purpose of the certification program is to facilitate Cisco's outsourcing of support to resellers. Yes, they certifications do have other benefits, but that is Cisco's principal corporate goal. I honestly don't know if someone in Cisco is doing something as rational as saying what tasks should a BSCN certificated person be able to do, as opposed to what general knowledge such a person to have. But if they have, it may not be inconsistent to lower standards if they feel the standards are getting in the way of sales and support. If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their passing grades/exam development. If I am way out in left field on this, my apologies to the list for lowering the s/n ratio:P Best regards, Geoffrey Zinderdine CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ?
I would think they would be valuable for the basics but check the objectives for the new exams and get the proper materials for those new objectives not covered in 1.0. This method could save you some $... - Original Message - From: "Alec Smiths" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Can I use old CCNP books for CCNP 2.0 ? Hi all, I found a CCNP set of Cisco Press ACRC, BCRAN, CLSC, CIT books. Can I use those books for new CCNP exams ? And what other topics do I need to study in addition to that? Alec, __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0?
I would say to a certain extent you are right with the possible exception being BGPv4. To me, the test was challenging but not that difficult, however some of the questions that I got on BGPv4 did not reflect the materials that I studied regarding the protocol. I have since acquired Halabi's second addition though; and must say that it is a good read. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Geoff Zinderdine Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lowering of standards on CCNP 2.0? Listmembers, I wrote the BSCN on Monday, and I must say that I was underwhelmed. I read Halabi and Moy's book on OSPF a year or so ago so they weren't exactly top of mind, and used the BSCN guide. Even using this guide almost exclusively I scored well over 900 with ten days study. I hope that I just got an easy batch of questions from the pool. It doesn't bode well for the value of this certification if the bar is significantly lowered. I hope that they put the pass up to 790 as they did with the ACRC. Even at this level, it would still be a relatively easy exam. Does anybody else feel the same way? I don't want to see the value of this certification which so many of us are spending a considerable amount of money and time on plummet because of a relaxing of standards. If so, perhaps we could write individually or as a group to Cisco to recommend a reevaluation of their passing grades/exam development. If I am way out in left field on this, my apologies to the list for lowering the s/n ratio:P Best regards, Geoffrey Zinderdine CCNA MCP2K CCA BLAH BLAH BLAH __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!
I will agree with you on the fact that the exams were easier than the 1.0 exam. I took my ACRC and barely passed that test. That was a grueling exam, however, I did take BCMSN, BCRAN, and CIT 2.0 and they were very easy. There are allot of people who are passing these exams. I believe that considering that Cisco released these exams not to long ago, they will raise the passing percentage in a couple months. From what I have noticed, Cisco will take all the statistics from these exams and evaluate where they need to adjust the score to make it that much harder to pass. I hope this is the case. Just my 2cents. Ron Peters - CCNP, CCDA ""Ashfaq Aslam"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi there, I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a space of 6 weeks. I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam. That was the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams was 79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%. I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be increased to 79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market and decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams. I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional Certifications. Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon? Regards. Ashfaq _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!
Maybe you're a whole lot smarter than you were six months ago. Give yourself some credit! CONGRATULATIONS! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashfaq Aslam Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:56 PM To: Cisco Group Study Subject:CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!! Hi there, I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a space of 6 weeks. I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam. That was the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams was 79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%. I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be increased to 79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market and decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams. I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional Certifications. Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon? Regards. Ashfaq _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!
I haven't taken any of the 2.0 exams, but those I've spoken to who've taken 1.0 and 2.0 concur with your assessment. Why did Cisco "dumb-down" the tests? Probably because they're trying to find that delicate balance between having enough certified people in the field to help sell their products and making the tests just difficult enough to ensure that the certified people aren't complete morons. Remember, Cisco isn't creating certifications to help our careers...they're creating the certifications to drive their product placement in the marketplace. If it's hard to find someone "certified" to maintain the equipment, a customer isn't as likely to buy the product. Personally, I'd love to see Cisco make the exams much more difficult, but I can't see that it will ever happen. The new CCNP track has made my job more difficult. I can no longer take the CCNP cert to mean that the candidate actually knows anything about networking. Therefore, all my candidates now get a comprehensive tech interview. You'd be surprised the number of CCNPs that can't explain basic subnetting or the differences between distance-vector and link-state protocols. Craig At 04:55 AM 1/13/2001 +, you wrote: Hi there, I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a space of 6 weeks. I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam. That was the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams was 79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%. I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be increased to 79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market and decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams. I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional Certifications. Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon? Regards. Ashfaq _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!
Hello all, I've heard expert, meaning knowlegable and very experienced, CCIEs say *exactly* the same thing about other CCIEs after interviews... i.e., "don't understand or can't explain basic concepts." These people aren't morons, some folks just have different goals and views concerning their CCIE and networking carrers. I'd say that it's all very relative, some people have a passion for what they do and others don't. Being that I just went through the entire 2.0 CCNP track, I do agree that it was easier than I expected and the assessment that this "easement" is "sales driven," is probably very accurate. Nonetheless, I still hold a certain amount of respect for anyone successfully passing the CCIE certification - it's just not easy! I believe that Cisco will soon "soften" the CCIE track as well - this is already becoming evident in the multi-rating CCIE system. my pennies - Original Message - From: "Craig Columbus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!! I haven't taken any of the 2.0 exams, but those I've spoken to who've taken 1.0 and 2.0 concur with your assessment. Why did Cisco "dumb-down" the tests? Probably because they're trying to find that delicate balance between having enough certified people in the field to help sell their products and making the tests just difficult enough to ensure that the certified people aren't complete morons. Remember, Cisco isn't creating certifications to help our careers...they're creating the certifications to drive their product placement in the marketplace. If it's hard to find someone "certified" to maintain the equipment, a customer isn't as likely to buy the product. Personally, I'd love to see Cisco make the exams much more difficult, but I can't see that it will ever happen. The new CCNP track has made my job more difficult. I can no longer take the CCNP cert to mean that the candidate actually knows anything about networking. Therefore, all my candidates now get a comprehensive tech interview. You'd be surprised the number of CCNPs that can't explain basic subnetting or the differences between distance-vector and link-state protocols. Craig At 04:55 AM 1/13/2001 +, you wrote: Hi there, I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a space of 6 weeks. I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam. That was the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams was 79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%. I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be increased to 79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market and decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams. I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional Certifications. Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon? Regards. Ashfaq _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not so sure about the CCIE track. I've heard that Cisco intends to keep it at a different level from the other tracks. BTW, I've never met a CCIE who didn't know his stuff. Is there such a creature? Craig At 08:22 AM 1/14/2001 -0800, you wrote: Hello all, I've heard expert, meaning knowlegable and very experienced, CCIEs say *exactly* the same thing about other CCIEs after interviews... i.e., "don't understand or can't explain basic concepts." These people aren't morons, some folks just have different goals and views concerning their CCIE and networking carrers. I'd say that it's all very relative, some people have a passion for what they do and others don't. Being that I just went through the entire 2.0 CCNP track, I do agree that it was easier than I expected and the assessment that this "easement" is "sales driven," is probably very accurate. Nonetheless, I still hold a certain amount of respect for anyone successfully passing the CCIE certification - it's just not easy! I believe that Cisco will soon "soften" the CCIE track as well - this is already becoming evident in the multi-rating CCIE system. my pennies - Original Message - From: "Craig Columbus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!! I haven't taken any of the 2.0 exams, but those I've spoken to who've taken 1.0 and 2.0 concur with your assessment. Why did Cisco "dumb-down" the tests? Probably because they're trying to find that delicate balance between having enough certified people in the field to help sell their products and making the tests just difficult enough to ensure that the certified people aren't complete morons. Remember, Cisco isn't creating certifications to help our careers...they're creating the certifications to drive their product placement in the marketplace. If it's hard to find someone "certified" to maintain the equipment, a customer isn't as likely to buy the product. Personally, I'd love to see Cisco make the exams much more difficult, but I can't see that it will ever happen. The new CCNP track has made my job more difficult. I can no longer take the CCNP cert to mean that the candidate actually knows anything about networking. Therefore, all my candidates now get a comprehensive tech interview. You'd be surprised the number of CCNPs that can't explain basic subnetting or the differences between distance-vector and link-state protocols. Craig At 04:55 AM 1/13/2001 +, you wrote: Hi there, I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a space of 6 weeks. I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam. That was the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams was 79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%. I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be increased to 79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market and decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams. I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional Certifications. Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon? Regards. Ashfaq _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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CCIE's put their pants on the same way you do. I don't think it's a matter of knowing or not knowing their stuff. But I have found that in some cases some CCIE's can be either so arrogant or so insecure, that they will always be right in a discussion, whether they are or not. This can lead to problems. I have had a CCIE tell me I was wrong about something about which I had done extensive research, and even had a Cisco bug report number, for example. In this particular case, he was wrong, but he arrogantly stated that he had never heard of such a bug and doubted it existed. Something to keep in mind. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Craig Columbus Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!! Not so sure about the CCIE track. I've heard that Cisco intends to keep it at a different level from the other tracks. BTW, I've never met a CCIE who didn't know his stuff. Is there such a creature? Craig At 08:22 AM 1/14/2001 -0800, you wrote: Hello all, I've heard expert, meaning knowlegable and very experienced, CCIEs say *exactly* the same thing about other CCIEs after interviews... i.e., "don't understand or can't explain basic concepts." These people aren't morons, some folks just have different goals and views concerning their CCIE and networking carrers. I'd say that it's all very relative, some people have a passion for what they do and others don't. Being that I just went through the entire 2.0 CCNP track, I do agree that it was easier than I expected and the assessment that this "easement" is "sales driven," is probably very accurate. Nonetheless, I still hold a certain amount of respect for anyone successfully passing the CCIE certification - it's just not easy! I believe that Cisco will soon "soften" the CCIE track as well - this is already becoming evident in the multi-rating CCIE system. my pennies - Original Message - From: "Craig Columbus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!! I haven't taken any of the 2.0 exams, but those I've spoken to who've taken 1.0 and 2.0 concur with your assessment. Why did Cisco "dumb-down" the tests? Probably because they're trying to find that delicate balance between having enough certified people in the field to help sell their products and making the tests just difficult enough to ensure that the certified people aren't complete morons. Remember, Cisco isn't creating certifications to help our careers...they're creating the certifications to drive their product placement in the marketplace. If it's hard to find someone "certified" to maintain the equipment, a customer isn't as likely to buy the product. Personally, I'd love to see Cisco make the exams much more difficult, but I can't see that it will ever happen. The new CCNP track has made my job more difficult. I can no longer take the CCNP cert to mean that the candidate actually knows anything about networking. Therefore, all my candidates now get a comprehensive tech interview. You'd be surprised the number of CCNPs that can't explain basic subnetting or the differences between distance-vector and link-state protocols. Craig At 04:55 AM 1/13/2001 +, you wrote: Hi there, I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a space of 6 weeks. I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam. That was the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams was 79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%. I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be increased to 79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market and decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams. I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional Certifications. Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon? Regards. Ashfaq _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!
- Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu CCIE's put their pants on the same way you do. You mean by pressing a button on a console next to their bed, which raises one end of the bed high enough so that I start to slide down through a trapdoor in the floor into my pants which are hanging by their suspenders from the ceiling of the kitchen below, after which I land in my chair where another machine puts my shirt on me while simultaneously preparing my toast and jam? Cool. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So what you're really saying is that you don't shower before work? I hope you at least see a few gallons of water on weekends :) Joel ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 008b01c07e4f$a483ef80$ca01010a@bwilson">news:008b01c07e4f$a483ef80$ca01010a@bwilson... - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu CCIE's put their pants on the same way you do. You mean by pressing a button on a console next to their bed, which raises one end of the bed high enough so that I start to slide down through a trapdoor in the floor into my pants which are hanging by their suspenders from the ceiling of the kitchen below, after which I land in my chair where another machine puts my shirt on me while simultaneously preparing my toast and jam? Cool. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!!
The dozen or so I've had contact with were sharp as they come. Half were with Cisco, the other half with other firms we've sub-contracted with. I will say, as some have, that having "the number" can make some of these folks very arrogant, but I run into that enough I doesn't bother me, I'm just here to get the job done. If I need to, I find the documentation I need to go up the chain of command and get things done, but I've never had such a run-in with a CCIE. Although, many of these CCIE's have been very friendly and helpful. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/ "Craig Columbus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Not so sure about the CCIE track. I've heard that Cisco intends to keep it at a different level from the other tracks. BTW, I've never met a CCIE who didn't know his stuff. Is there such a creature? Craig At 08:22 AM 1/14/2001 -0800, you wrote: Hello all, I've heard expert, meaning knowlegable and very experienced, CCIEs say *exactly* the same thing about other CCIEs after interviews... i.e., "don't understand or can't explain basic concepts." These people aren't morons, some folks just have different goals and views concerning their CCIE and networking carrers. I'd say that it's all very relative, some people have a passion for what they do and others don't. Being that I just went through the entire 2.0 CCNP track, I do agree that it was easier than I expected and the assessment that this "easement" is "sales driven," is probably very accurate. Nonetheless, I still hold a certain amount of respect for anyone successfully passing the CCIE certification - it's just not easy! I believe that Cisco will soon "soften" the CCIE track as well - this is already becoming evident in the multi-rating CCIE system. my pennies - Original Message - From: "Craig Columbus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 completed and is a joke!!! I haven't taken any of the 2.0 exams, but those I've spoken to who've taken 1.0 and 2.0 concur with your assessment. Why did Cisco "dumb-down" the tests? Probably because they're trying to find that delicate balance between having enough certified people in the field to help sell their products and making the tests just difficult enough to ensure that the certified people aren't complete morons. Remember, Cisco isn't creating certifications to help our careers...they're creating the certifications to drive their product placement in the marketplace. If it's hard to find someone "certified" to maintain the equipment, a customer isn't as likely to buy the product. Personally, I'd love to see Cisco make the exams much more difficult, but I can't see that it will ever happen. The new CCNP track has made my job more difficult. I can no longer take the CCNP cert to mean that the candidate actually knows anything about networking. Therefore, all my candidates now get a comprehensive tech interview. You'd be surprised the number of CCNPs that can't explain basic subnetting or the differences between distance-vector and link-state protocols. Craig At 04:55 AM 1/13/2001 +, you wrote: Hi there, I completed my CCNP 2.0 on 3rd Jan. 2001 (scores between 82-89%) within a space of 6 weeks. I feel the high standard from CCNP 1.0 to CCNP 2.0 exams has dropped considerably. I failed my ACRC exam back in August and was forced to abandon it due to the expiry date. ACRC was a good standard exam. That was the true level of testing! The passing score for the old CCNP 1.0 exams was 79%, whilst now (for CCNP 2.0) it's a sheepishly low 69%. I managed to pass the new BSCN and CIT exams in under three weeks without ANY prior Cisco experience. I feel the passing score should be increased to 79% instead if 69%, otherwise CCNP 2.0 will end up flooding the market and decreasing it's value like Microsoft exams. I don't feel Cisco should be dropping their standards in Professional Certifications. Just my thoughts...What do you guys reckon? Regards. Ashfaq _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.
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Re: CCNP 2.0 passing scores
Go to www.cramsession.com. They have a pretty good section for the details of the exams. I would not recommend relying on their study guides as my sole source of information however. "Ravi Kumar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... dear friends can u pls let me know numbers of questions and passing score for all CCNP 2.0 exams? tanx ravee Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP 2.0 passing scores
Look here http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Ravi Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP 2.0 passing scores dear friends can u pls let me know numbers of questions and passing score for all CCNP 2.0 exams? tanx ravee Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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dear friends can u pls let me know numbers of questions and passing score for all CCNP 2.0 exams? tanx ravee Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The passing mark is abt 690-706/1000. They are abt 62 questions for each paper (ie 4 papers) Rgds, Sam -Original Message- From: Ravi Kumar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP 2.0 passing scores dear friends can u pls let me know numbers of questions and passing score for all CCNP 2.0 exams? tanx ravee Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Technical links on Web for CCNP 2.0
See "Link Cisco" at www.bensbookmarks.com
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Re: Free CCNP 2.0 Study Material Notes
Me too pls... - Original Message - From: "Mohan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: RE: Free CCNP 2.0 Study Material Notes hi, can you sent me a copy.. thanks -Original Message- From: GNOME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free CCNP 2.0 Study Material Notes Hi I have the study material notes for Routing Remote exams. Do let me know if you r interested I am looking for Switching Support exam study notes...maybe we can exchange??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Sorry for those i did not reply.i have received abt 30+ emails everyday requesting for this and i can't possible cope with all these requesting!!! "GNOME" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8v0pg3$u9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8v0pg3$u9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi I have the study material notes for Routing Remote exams. Do let me know if you r interested I am looking for Switching Support exam study notes...maybe we can exchange??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hi, can you sent me a copy.. thanks -Original Message- From: GNOME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free CCNP 2.0 Study Material Notes Hi I have the study material notes for Routing Remote exams. Do let me know if you r interested I am looking for Switching Support exam study notes...maybe we can exchange??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boson tests for CCNP 2.0
How good are the Boson Cisco tests for Roouting 2.0
Passed Support!! Now CCNP 2.0
Just got back from taking the support 2.0 test and this was not a fun test for me (dealing with appletalk and ipx). I used an old cit 4.0 book, Priscilla's flash cards, and COLT. On to CID!! Thanks -Derrick- CCNA, CCDA, CCNP 2.0 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do You have used CCNP 2.0 CBT
I do not believe that CBT makes Training specifically for the CCNP exams. I do know that they have courses for Cisco technologies that would help prepare for the exams. Lonnie "manoj kumar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am from India and am pursuing my CCNP. DO you have used CCNP 2.0 CBT or Video's ? I am willing to purchace them. thanks in advance manoj Do You Yahoo!?Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
RE: Do You have used CCNP 2.0 CBT
I have used several of the CBT sustems Cisco
Technologies CBTs and must say that I would prefer good books, Boson
exams, lists such as this and good hands on to them. To me, they seemed
slow, difficult to navigate, not completely thorough with regards to the
material and quite frankly not in depth enough. I think that they are
useful however to glean a base knowledge of a technology but as far as being an
indepth study aid, I would think not.
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technologies that would help prepare for the exams.
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I am willing to purchace them.
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Do You have used CCNP 2.0 CBT
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Hi Friends, I passed this test last Friday, it is hard because the complexity and the level of knowledge required... one have to master all the three sections (Routing, Switching and Remote Access) to get a passing score, otherwise a FAIL grade is received. Thanks to all the people that make this group a tool for those pursuing Cisco certifications... hope I can help some others as well. ... next step SUPPORT and then CCIE written. Regards, Jose Luis De Abreu CCNA, CCDA, CSE (3/4 CCNP and 3/4 CCDP) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccnp 2.0 videos
I am thinking about purchasing a CCNP 2.0 video set from Keystone learning systems. Has anybody used these videos, if so could you please review them for me before I make my decision. Thanks Duck
Re: CCIE written vs CCNP 2.0
I haven't, but I have sat about 6 mock CCIE tests with certificationzone.com. I think you need to buff up on dial-up for the CMTD or equivalent and the CLSC that I sat was mainly a memory test of how many ports and what type are available with which cards. (Pretty useless info required unless www.cisco.com ceased to exist). I reckon you can pass the ACRC and CIT without any further work though. Regards, Phil. --- Ty Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently passed the CCIE written, and am now studying to take the lab. However, since I work for a reseller, I need to have an actual certification to be eligible for some of the specialization requirements. Has anyone taken the CCIE written before the CCNP tests? If so, did you need to prepare for anything else that wasn't on the CCIE written? TIA, ty **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE written vs CCNP 2.0
I've recently passed the CCIE written, and am now studying to take the lab. However, since I work for a reseller, I need to have an actual certification to be eligible for some of the specialization requirements. Has anyone taken the CCIE written before the CCNP tests? If so, did you need to prepare for anything else that wasn't on the CCIE written? TIA, ty **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 books
I'm glad you mentioned this, Paul. I would never have thought of this, since I don't browse the Groupstudy site regularly, but do pick up book suggestions from reading the list via the newsfeed. Is there anyway to give Groupstudy a referral bonus if a particular book is not shown on the Groupstudy bookstore page? For example, I was thinking about purchasing Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture later this year and certainly wouldn't mind having the invaluable groupstudy.com get the referral bonus, but I notice its not pictured on the page. ---JRE--- ""Paul Borghese"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00ba01c023f8$9eb816a0$e18d5b3f@laptop">news:00ba01c023f8$9eb816a0$e18d5b3f@laptop... If you do purchase from Amazon.com, please click-through form the groupstudy.com website. It is the only way we can keep this list up and running. Paul - Original Message - From: "Ben Lovegrove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Briggs" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 books www.lovegrove.co.uk/bgl/books.htm I receive weekly updates from amazon.com and amazon.co.uk on those that have been added to their database, and on those titles that are no longer in their catalogues. Armed with this information I try to keep the lists up to date. The old CCNA/CCNP 1.0 guides are gradually being replaced. There is plenty to read on the 2.0 track! Regards Ben --- Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Ben Lovegrove, CCNP (+ Security) Redspan Solutions Ltd http://www.redspan.com Cisco: Products, Training, Jobs, Study Guides, Resources. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP 2.0 books
I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 books
Try http://www.ciscopress.com for starter. The http://www.groupstudy.com also has an archive full of recommendation on books with isbn numbers provided. It is amazing what you will find in there. ""Briggs"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8qd70g$tif$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8qd70g$tif$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 books
www.lovegrove.co.uk/bgl/books.htm I receive weekly updates from amazon.com and amazon.co.uk on those that have been added to their database, and on those titles that are no longer in their catalogues. Armed with this information I try to keep the lists up to date. The old CCNA/CCNP 1.0 guides are gradually being replaced. There is plenty to read on the 2.0 track! Regards Ben --- Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Ben Lovegrove, CCNP (+ Security) Redspan Solutions Ltd http://www.redspan.com Cisco: Products, Training, Jobs, Study Guides, Resources. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP 2.0 books
This BCRAN book is good! http://www.insync.net/~drews/bcran Go to http://www.bookpool.com and find the cheapest place to buy it. Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp -Original Message- From: Briggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP 2.0 books I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP 2.0 books
The Coriolis Exam Cram Books are out for the 640-50X tests. They do not label them BSCN etc. The books are named Routing, Switching, Remote Access and Support but they specify on the cover that they are written for the 640-50X exams. I have purchased them and am using them in conjunction with the cisco press books for CCNP 1.0. I take the first test today so I have no way to tell you how they compare to the exams as study guides. The ISBNs for the books follow: Routing 1576106330 Switching 1576106349 Remote Access 1576104370 Support 1576106810 The site http://www.bestbookbuys.com/ allows you to search multiple book store sites for pricing etc. You provide the name isbn etc and it provides a list of stores sorted by price. Regards, Nathan Miller -Original Message- From: Briggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 7:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP 2.0 books I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 books
If you do purchase from Amazon.com, please click-through form the groupstudy.com website. It is the only way we can keep this list up and running. Paul - Original Message - From: "Ben Lovegrove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Briggs" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: Re: CCNP 2.0 books www.lovegrove.co.uk/bgl/books.htm I receive weekly updates from amazon.com and amazon.co.uk on those that have been added to their database, and on those titles that are no longer in their catalogues. Armed with this information I try to keep the lists up to date. The old CCNA/CCNP 1.0 guides are gradually being replaced. There is plenty to read on the 2.0 track! Regards Ben --- Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Ben Lovegrove, CCNP (+ Security) Redspan Solutions Ltd http://www.redspan.com Cisco: Products, Training, Jobs, Study Guides, Resources. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP 2.0 books
Cisco Press has BCMSN and BCRAN books out. www.ciscopress.com Sybex has the Support book out (BCRAN and BCMSN coming soon) www.sybex.com Exam Cram has several books out Paperback - 393 pages (April 21, 2000) The Coriolis Group; ISBN: 1576104370 ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.01 x 8.97 x 6.01 www.examcram.com Hardcover - 832 pages BkCd Rom edition (June 12, 2000) McGraw-Hill; ISBN: 007211908X ; Dimensions (in inches): 2.27 x 9.45 x 7.66 CD-ROM - 749 pages Package edition (January 15, 2000) McGraw Hill Text; ISBN: 0072124806 ; Dimensions (in inches): 2.04 x 9.52 x 7.61 --- Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've checked on Amazon and haven't seen any new releases for study guides or exam preps for the 2.0 track. Maybe i'm just not looking hard enough. Does anyone have recommendations or other good sites for BCMSN, BCRAN, and BSCN books? thanks all **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who can sale me CiscoPress CCNP 2.0 CDs??
Hi,I just passed CCNA 1.0. Now I am studying CCNP. But who can sale me CiscoPress CCNP 2.0 book or CDs. please e-mail me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCNA MCSE **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What routers for ccna 2.0 and ccnp 2.0?
I am going to obtain two routers for my preparation for the CCNA 2.0, and CCNP 2.0. track. I would appreciate any suggestions on what type of routers to get. I have seen people recommend two 2501 routers while other say get one with a token ring interface. I was given the book CCNA Study Guide exam 640-407 by Todd Lammle. What book would be a good addition to this that would cover the additional information for the 640-507 test. Any suggestions on either of these matters would be appreciated. Thanks Don **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What routers for ccna 2.0 and ccnp 2.0?
You might try a 2501 and then a 2503(ethernet)or a 2504 (token ring). The 2504 will probably be a lot cheaper(400-600 bucks maybe) but you will need a computer with a token ring card etc for it to to be useful as token ring test box. ISDN will be the same for both of course. For CCNP you might need a 3rd router and or a switch etc to properly try out all the technologies. stuart From: "Don Crow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Don Crow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What routers for ccna 2.0 and ccnp 2.0? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:51:23 -0400 I am going to obtain two routers for my preparation for the CCNA 2.0, and CCNP 2.0. track. I would appreciate any suggestions on what type of routers to get. I have seen people recommend two 2501 routers while other say get one with a token ring interface. I was given the book CCNA Study Guide exam 640-407 by Todd Lammle. What book would be a good addition to this that would cover the additional information for the 640-507 test. Any suggestions on either of these matters would be appreciated. Thanks Don **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What routers for ccna 2.0 and ccnp 2.0?
If you use the 640-407 book from Sybex, make sure to download the "errata" and "new chapter 11" from their web site. http://www.sybex.com/cgi-bin/rd_err_temp.pl?2381err.html http://www.sybex.com/cgi-bin/rd_up_temp.pl?2381up.html The errata makes the book much better as it corrects many of the errors in the book. The new chapter 11 adds more WAN information. Vern Stitt ASE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE ""Don Crow"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 009901c01ca7$648492e0$6401a8c0@doncrow">news:009901c01ca7$648492e0$6401a8c0@doncrow... I am going to obtain two routers for my preparation for the CCNA 2.0, and CCNP 2.0. track. I would appreciate any suggestions on what type of routers to get. I have seen people recommend two 2501 routers while other say get one with a token ring interface. I was given the book CCNA Study Guide exam 640-407 by Todd Lammle. What book would be a good addition to this that would cover the additional information for the 640-507 test. Any suggestions on either of these matters would be appreciated. Thanks Don **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccnp 2.0
You will be a CCNP 1 unless you update your switching exam. You don't need to update your CCAN. Duc - Original Message - From: Yee, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:31 PM Subject: ccnp 2.0 hi guys and gals, Anyone knows what track will I be ie 2.0 or 1.0 if I took all the 2.0 exams except my ccna is 1.0 and my clsc is 1.0 what track will I be in 2.0 or 1.0 or I have to retake my ccna again and clsc again to gain 2.0 certification thanks Jason **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Enough already with the whole Layer 1/Hub debacle. The McGraw Hill stuff isn't that bad. It's a case of either-or when choosing between Cisco Press and Mcgraw Hill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Try layer 1. Hubs and repeateras are purely physical. They don't process data in any way, shape, or form. All they do is move bits from one port to another. They are focused on BITS, not packets, segments, or frames. Check your OSI layer functions. Bridges and switches are layer 2 Routers and MLS cards are layer 3 4 (depending on whether you're switching/routing by net address or protocol/port) Karen E Young ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Desk: 206-770-4035 Pager: 206-994-4514 "Andrew Larkins" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] alarkins@glocc: bal.co.za Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Sent by: nobody@groups tudy.com 09/07/2000 08:18 AM Please respond to "Andrew Larkins" What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
If you disassemble a _cheap_ repeater (Like the kind used as cable extenders, You'll find mosfet's configured as amplifiers. The analog signal varies depending on the physical Layer you are using. I.e. a rs-232 interface swings between -15V and +15V. Original Message Follows From: "Steve and Monica Brokaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Ejay Hire" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:06:17 -0500 Repeaters are digital devices that regenerate the DIGITAL signal for retransmission. AMPLIFIERS amplify analog signals. Steve Brokaw, MCSE CCNA CCNP Sprint Enterprise Network Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ejay Hire Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Repeaters and Hubs are Physical Layer Devices. Repeaters amplify analog signals to reduce attenuation. Hubs provide multiple connection points for a single network segment. Hubs are sometimes called multi-port repeaters. Switches and Bridges are Layer 2 devices. They look at the Layer 2 address (MAC address), and make decisions about the destination of a packet based on the information contained therein. Original Message Follows From: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:18:49 +0200 What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification?
no,you can take ccnp2 exam with the ccna1 cert please go to www.cisco.com to see it "Richard Tran" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8p7799$h13$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p7799$h13$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I already have my CCNA 1.0. Do I have to take the CCNA 2.0 to count toward CCNP 2.0 ? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am now pursuing my CCNP also and want to use the Cisco materials for studying. But looking at Cisco's web site it looks like they recommend BSCN first. But that Cisco book is not released yet. Are the four CCNP courses independent or does each rely on the preceeding courses? Thanks, Chris Mann CCNA, MCSE, CNE, ASE, CCA -Original Message- From: T. Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Agreed. In my experience of self-studying for MS, Novell, and Cisco certs, I've found each company's official curriculum to be a better source of information than any third party material I've tried...especially for overall knowledge and not just getting a passing score on an exam. Tracy Miller ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Hi all, There was another book recommended for the BSCN exam (additional material) , I think it was by someone called Halabi (or something like that, pls correct me if I'm wrong). It's about protocols/routing IP. Do any of you know what the book is called? Thanks in advance. Jean-Michel -Original Message- From: Mann, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2000 15:24 To: 'T. Miller'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? I am now pursuing my CCNP also and want to use the Cisco materials for studying. But looking at Cisco's web site it looks like they recommend BSCN first. But that Cisco book is not released yet. Are the four CCNP courses independent or does each rely on the preceeding courses? Thanks, Chris Mann CCNA, MCSE, CNE, ASE, CCA -Original Message- From: T. Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Agreed. In my experience of self-studying for MS, Novell, and Cisco certs, I've found each company's official curriculum to be a better source of information than any third party material I've tried...especially for overall knowledge and not just getting a passing score on an exam. Tracy Miller ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
The Amazon.com website puts Thomas's BSCN book publication date at August 21st, but their help desk says the date's been pushed back to September 21st. - Original Message - From: Mann, Chris To: 'T. Miller' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? I am now pursuing my CCNP also and want to use the Cisco materials for studying. But looking at Cisco's web site it looks like they recommend BSCN first. But that Cisco book is not released yet. Are the four CCNP courses independent or does each rely on the preceeding courses? Thanks, Chris Mann CCNA, MCSE, CNE, ASE, CCA -Original Message- From: T. Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Agreed. In my experience of self-studying for MS, Novell, and Cisco certs, I've found each company's official curriculum to be a better source of information than any third party material I've tried...especially for overall knowledge and not just getting a passing score on an exam. Tracy Miller ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Hi, I plan on buying both books - Internet Routing Architectures and the BCSN book from CiscoPress. The book (Internet Routing Architectures) obviously covers all routing protocols I suppose. Does it also cover OSPF and other elements required for the BSCN exam as well? Do you think that these two books are sufficient for the BSCN exam... do you recommend anything else? (I will also be looking for lots of other resources on the Internet- RFCs and all) Thanks, J-M -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2000 16:18 To: Jean-Michel Roberts Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Internet Routing Architectures. It mostly focuses on BGP. Probably the best book in print on BGP routing. Brian On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Jean-Michel Roberts wrote: Hi all, There was another book recommended for the BSCN exam (additional material) , I think it was by someone called Halabi (or something like that, pls correct me if I'm wrong). It's about protocols/routing IP. Do any of you know what the book is called? Thanks in advance. Jean-Michel -Original Message- From: Mann, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 September 2000 15:24 To: 'T. Miller'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? I am now pursuing my CCNP also and want to use the Cisco materials for studying. But looking at Cisco's web site it looks like they recommend BSCN first. But that Cisco book is not released yet. Are the four CCNP courses independent or does each rely on the preceeding courses? Thanks, Chris Mann CCNA, MCSE, CNE, ASE, CCA -Original Message- From: T. Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Agreed. In my experience of self-studying for MS, Novell, and Cisco certs, I've found each company's official curriculum to be a better source of information than any third party material I've tried...especially for overall knowledge and not just getting a passing score on an exam. Tracy Miller ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http:
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Repeaters and Hubs are Physical Layer Devices. Repeaters amplify analog signals to reduce attenuation. Hubs provide multiple connection points for a single network segment. Hubs are sometimes called multi-port repeaters. Switches and Bridges are Layer 2 devices. They look at the Layer 2 address (MAC address), and make decisions about the destination of a packet based on the information contained therein. Original Message Follows From: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:18:49 +0200 What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Routing TCP/IP Vol 1 by Jeff Doyle from Cisco Press is an excellent book on routing. A must have. The Halabi book is more oriented towards BGP. To an earlier post. Best to take CIT last. You can start with any of the other three. There are plenty of books for BCRAN and BCMSN available now. -Original Message- From: Jean-Michel Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:38 AM To: 'Brian' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi, I plan on buying both books - Internet Routing Architectures and the BCSN book from CiscoPress. The book (Internet Routing Architectures) obviously covers all routing protocols I suppose. Does it also cover OSPF and other elements required for the BSCN exam as well? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
A layer 2 device would be a bridge or a switch. A hub is just a multiport repeater, which just relays signaling. It can't see the MAC address of a NIC, so it doesn't care where the data ends up. Hence, layer 1. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Larkins Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
in the northern hemisphere repeaters and hubs are considered to be Layer 1 devices. igor --- Andrew Larkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
s'okay...must've been the same thing that came over Thomas when he wrote that book... ;-) - Original Message - From: Andrew Larkins To: Craig Johnson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Sorry for that extremely stupid post. Of course these devices are not layer 2!..I guess I am at work for to long already. Time to go home.. I don't know what came over me on that one. Apologies - Original Message - From: "Craig Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Andrew Larkins'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:36 PM Subject: RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? A layer 2 device would be a bridge or a switch. A hub is just a multiport repeater, which just relays signaling. It can't see the MAC address of a NIC, so it doesn't care where the data ends up. Hence, layer 1. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Larkins Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification?
I was under the understanding that once you pass CCNA1.0, this will count towards CCNP 2.0. I was told that you would not have to retake the CCNA 1.0. Was this incorrect? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Is this the Cisco Press book BSCN that you are referring to? What are you using to study for BSCN? Regards, ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification?
This is correct, CCNA 1.0 does count toward CCNP 2.0. I went and took the CCNA 2.0 test the other day anyway; it might be a good practice to pass that one before you try to tackle the CCNP tests anyway. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Ariel Banzon Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification? I was under the understanding that once you pass CCNA1.0, this will count towards CCNP 2.0. I was told that you would not have to retake the CCNA 1.0. Was this incorrect? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification?
Confusing eh? Hope this helps : CCNP 2.0 accepts CCNA 1 or 2. I am a CCNA 1.0 and a CCNP 2.0, which means that I will not need to worry about my certs expiring for 3 years from the date I got my CCNP. If I had never upgraded to CCNP, then I would expire 3 years from my CCNA. When I progress to CCIE, then there will be a whole bunch of different requirements. ( 2 words : Aca - Pullco :D ) HTH, Casey From: "Ariel Banzon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Ariel Banzon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:02:42 -0700 I was under the understanding that once you pass CCNA1.0, this will count towards CCNP 2.0. I was told that you would not have to retake the CCNA 1.0. Was this incorrect? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Repeaters are digital devices that regenerate the DIGITAL signal for retransmission. AMPLIFIERS amplify analog signals. Steve Brokaw, MCSE CCNA CCNP Sprint Enterprise Network Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ejay Hire Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Repeaters and Hubs are Physical Layer Devices. Repeaters amplify analog signals to reduce attenuation. Hubs provide multiple connection points for a single network segment. Hubs are sometimes called multi-port repeaters. Switches and Bridges are Layer 2 devices. They look at the Layer 2 address (MAC address), and make decisions about the destination of a packet based on the information contained therein. Original Message Follows From: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:18:49 +0200 What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
You are wrong there, Think about this: How can you regenerate a digital signal? By definition a digital signal is made up of discrete values. If some of these are lost, which is why you would want to regenerate the signal, how could you do this? The last person was right with their definition, after all, if you are talking about computers then you are talking about electron flows and these are by nature analogue (ignoring quantum theory which is still a complete mess. etc etc). Andy Lennon ccnp/dp/msce ""Steve and Monica Brokaw"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Repeaters are digital devices that regenerate the DIGITAL signal for retransmission. AMPLIFIERS amplify analog signals. Steve Brokaw, MCSE CCNA CCNP Sprint Enterprise Network Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ejay Hire Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Repeaters and Hubs are Physical Layer Devices. Repeaters amplify analog signals to reduce attenuation. Hubs provide multiple connection points for a single network segment. Hubs are sometimes called multi-port repeaters. Switches and Bridges are Layer 2 devices. They look at the Layer 2 address (MAC address), and make decisions about the destination of a packet based on the information contained therein. Original Message Follows From: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:18:49 +0200 What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Try layer 1. Hubs and repeateras are purely physical. They don't process data in any way, shape, or form. All they do is move bits from one port to another. They are focused on BITS, not packets, segments, or frames. Check your OSI layer functions. Bridges and switches are layer 2 Routers and MLS cards are layer 3 4 (depending on whether you're switching/routing by net address or protocol/port) Karen E Young ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Desk: 206-770-4035 Pager: 206-994-4514 "Andrew Larkins" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] alarkins@glocc: bal.co.za Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Sent by: nobody@groups tudy.com 09/07/2000 08:18 AM Please respond to "Andrew Larkins" What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Well, please so me something other than your opinion to back that up, because here's what I read: "repeater -- a physical layer device that forwards bits, in contrast to bridges and routers, which forward packets." Interconnections, Second Edition Radia Perlman Page 530 "Repeaters fall into two categories: amplifiers and signal-regenerating repeaters. Amplifiers simply amplify the entire incoming signal. Unfortunately, they amplify both the signal and the noise. Signal-regenerating repeaters create an exact duplicate of incoming data by identifying it amidst the noise, reconstructing it, and retransmitting only the desired information. This reduces the noise. The original signal is duplicated, boosted to its original strength, and sent." MCSE: Networking Essentials Study Guide Chellis, Perkins, Strebe Page 393-394. "Repeater -- A physical layer device that only regenerates a bit stream. No intelligence is associated with a repeater" ACRC Exam Cram Morgan, Shroyer pg 410. "repeater Device that regenerates and propagates electrical signals between two network segments. See also segment. " Cut and Paste from CCO http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/demos/ccna-demo/glossary/r.ht m Now I suppose we could argue that "bit" doesn't mean digital, but then we'd have to argue exactly what is digital and is anything digital and then we'd have to get into Manchester encoding etc, etc. However, if you plan to get it right on any test you take, you ought to use these definitions, I did. Steve Brokaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of andy lennon Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? You are wrong there, Think about this: How can you regenerate a digital signal? By definition a digital signal is made up of discrete values. If some of these are lost, which is why you would want to regenerate the signal, how could you do this? The last person was right with their definition, after all, if you are talking about computers then you are talking about electron flows and these are by nature analogue (ignoring quantum theory which is still a complete mess. etc etc). Andy Lennon ccnp/dp/msce ""Steve and Monica Brokaw"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Repeaters are digital devices that regenerate the DIGITAL signal for retransmission. AMPLIFIERS amplify analog signals. Steve Brokaw, MCSE CCNA CCNP Sprint Enterprise Network Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ejay Hire Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Repeaters and Hubs are Physical Layer Devices. Repeaters amplify analog signals to reduce attenuation. Hubs provide multiple connection points for a single network segment. Hubs are sometimes called multi-port repeaters. Switches and Bridges are Layer 2 devices. They look at the Layer 2 address (MAC address), and make decisions about the destination of a packet based on the information contained therein. Original Message Follows From: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:18:49 +0200 What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Nope, hubs and repeaters deal with Layer 1 only. Adam Hickey CCNA MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Hubs and repeater are Layer 1 devices. On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:18:49 +0200 "Andrew Larkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What si wrong with "layer 2 devices" - that is what they are?? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associate-Announcement.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
I am readying myself to start in on the CCNP track, having completed the CCNA 1.0 back in Feb/99 (and being on hiatus from Cisco work until now). Does anyone know if/when Cisco Press books will be available for the CCNP 2.0 track? Also, I'm considering a specialization (i.e. an extra exam from what I understand) in either security or Voice-over-IP...any advice? Thanks. Tracy Miller, CCNA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Agreed. In my experience of self-studying for MS, Novell, and Cisco certs, I've found each company's official curriculum to be a better source of information than any third party material I've tried...especially for overall knowledge and not just getting a passing score on an exam. Tracy Miller ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00d001c01854$635f8de0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi guys - I'm studying for the CCNP myself, and I bought all four McGraw Hill Technical Expert books (all supervised by Tom Thomas, author of the Cisco OSPF book) - and they stink. I'd wait for the Cisco or even the Syngress books if I were you. Case in point: in the BCMSN book, repeaters and hubs are referred to throughout as "Layer 2 devices." 'Nuff said. Sincerely, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Seth Wilson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track? Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will CCNA 1.0 counts toward CCNP 2.0 certification?
I already have my CCNA 1.0. Do I have to take the CCNA 2.0 to count toward CCNP 2.0 ? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccnp 2.0
hi guys and gals, Anyone knows what track will I be ie 2.0 or 1.0 if I took all the 2.0 exams except my ccna is 1.0 and my clsc is 1.0 what track will I be in 2.0 or 1.0 or I have to retake my ccna again and clsc again to gain 2.0 certification thanks Jason ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccnp 2.0
You will be a CCNp 1.0 - Original Message - From: Yee, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:31 PM Subject: ccnp 2.0 hi guys and gals, Anyone knows what track will I be ie 2.0 or 1.0 if I took all the 2.0 exams except my ccna is 1.0 and my clsc is 1.0 what track will I be in 2.0 or 1.0 or I have to retake my ccna again and clsc again to gain 2.0 certification thanks Jason ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccnp 2.0
thank you - Original Message - From: "whatshakin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: ccnp 2.0 You will be a CCNp 1.0 - Original Message - From: Yee, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:31 PM Subject: ccnp 2.0 hi guys and gals, Anyone knows what track will I be ie 2.0 or 1.0 if I took all the 2.0 exams except my ccna is 1.0 and my clsc is 1.0 what track will I be in 2.0 or 1.0 or I have to retake my ccna again and clsc again to gain 2.0 certification thanks Jason ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccnp 2.0
Hi Jason, You are a 1.0 by virtue of your CLSC being 1.0. When you take CLSC 2.0 you will become CCNP 2.0. For me, I am a 2.0 since I took all 2.0 exams except for CCNA, which goes either way. For detailed certification paths see www.galton.com/~cisco . HTH, Casey - Original Message - From:Yee, Jason Sent:Tuesday, September 05, 2000 1:51 AM To:cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail) Subject:ccnp 2.0 hi guys and gals,Anyone knows what track will I be ie 2.0 or 1.0 if I took all the 2.0 examsexcept my ccna is 1.0 and my clsc is 1.0what track will I be in 2.0 or 1.0 or I have to retake my ccna again andclsc again to gain 2.0 certificationthanksJason___UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.htmlFAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.comReport misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___Get a sneak preview of the new MSN: http://preview.msn.com/
CCNP 2.0 questions
Hello, i am currently studying for CCNP 2.0 Foundation exam If anyone has any inputis it safer, cheaper to take the 3 separate exams or the Foundation?? Does anyone know any good links for CCNP 2.0 640-5xx??? ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT Support Exam in CCNP 2.0 Track.
The only thing that has changes is the name. Super-easy test. -- Shannon Severijn CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Snot-Nosed Gen. X Punk Kid... (Cisco Mercenary) [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Eazhil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All, I would like to clarify,whether the exam is changed for CIT 2.0.Is that anybody attended CIT Support exam after july 31st.The objectives are seems same in the cisco site.Please clarify regarding this. Thanks...Pal = __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
