Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Shawn,

I used OpenCPN and Nobeltec quite a fews ago on the West Coast cruise.

Main charts were NDI (digital ocean) and Nobeltec vr4. I did say old.
I also had C-map 93, more for entertainment and back-up. Ran them on 
two XP machines, a Dell & ThinkPad.


There is an OpenCPN chart download here:

http://opennauticalchart.org/

Mostly for entertainment as not all the marks in our area as show... 
nothing in Sooke Harbour and missing a key one in Nanaimo Harbour.


Cheers, Russ
ex-Sweet 35 mk-1


At 06:56 PM 1/19/2019, you wrote:
I'm trying out OpenCPN on my laptop and Android tablet, but can't 
find a source for Canadian charts. Has anyone had luck using OpenCPN 
in Canadian waters (west coast)?


For this asking about using Android tablets offline for navigation, 
I have had no issues travelling with several Android phones and 
tablets in many countries (Japan, Central America, US and Canada) 
without cell or wifi service, either by downloading Google offline 
maps in advance, or using another offline map app. The app contains 
the offline map/chart data, and the phone/tablet merely need to 
obtain a GPS fix, which does not require either cellular data or wifi.
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

I'm trying out OpenCPN on my laptop and Android tablet, but can't find a
source for Canadian charts. Has anyone had luck using OpenCPN in Canadian
waters (west coast)?

For this asking about using Android tablets offline for navigation, I have
had no issues travelling with several Android phones and tablets in many
countries (Japan, Central America, US and Canada) without cell or wifi
service, either by downloading Google offline maps in advance, or using
another offline map app. The app contains the offline map/chart data, and
the phone/tablet merely need to obtain a GPS fix, which does not require
either cellular data or wifi.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 4:15 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Tom;
>
>
>
> My old IPad has the Garmin app loaded, along with 8 other navigation apps
> including a weather router, Drag Queen, Active Captain, Predict Wind, and a
> Tides app. I have all of the Garmin charts for the east coast of Canada and
> the US, the Bahamas, Bermuda, and the northwest part of the Caribbean from
> Cuba to the BVI. I’ve also choked the memory with a bunch of E books, a
> Nook app, a gaggle of photos, email etc. Which leaves about 6.3gig of free
> memory at the moment.
>
>
>
> All this crap runs off line without any need for a Wifi or cellular
> connection. I download updates with the WiFi network in my home, or using
> my cell phone as a WiFi hotspot when traveling. The only App that needs
> regular update is the weather routing. The forecast gets less accurate as
> you go out past 3 days, so I had a gap in weather forecast during the
> middle of my passages to and from Bermuda last year. But on the trips I’ve
> made up the East Coast I’ve been close enough to shore often enough to get
> updates using the WiFi hotspot on my Verizon cell phone.
>
>
>
> I would almost guarantee that most other navigation apps offer offline
> service equal to what I have,
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *T
> power via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:57 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* T power 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>
>
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
>
>
> I was thinking of using a Samsung tablet also. Do you happen to sail
> offshore, If so are you still able to run a Nav program in real time when
> out of range of cell and wifi?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Tom Power
>
> Invictus
>
> C 30 MK1
>
> Fredericton, NB
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Tom;

 

My old IPad has the Garmin app loaded, along with 8 other navigation apps
including a weather router, Drag Queen, Active Captain, Predict Wind, and a
Tides app. I have all of the Garmin charts for the east coast of Canada and
the US, the Bahamas, Bermuda, and the northwest part of the Caribbean from
Cuba to the BVI. I've also choked the memory with a bunch of E books, a Nook
app, a gaggle of photos, email etc. Which leaves about 6.3gig of free memory
at the moment.

 

All this crap runs off line without any need for a Wifi or cellular
connection. I download updates with the WiFi network in my home, or using my
cell phone as a WiFi hotspot when traveling. The only App that needs regular
update is the weather routing. The forecast gets less accurate as you go out
past 3 days, so I had a gap in weather forecast during the  middle of my
passages to and from Bermuda last year. But on the trips I've made up the
East Coast I've been close enough to shore often enough to get updates using
the WiFi hotspot on my Verizon cell phone.

 

I would almost guarantee that most other navigation apps offer offline
service equal to what I have,

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of T power
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T power 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

 

Hi Bruce,

 

I was thinking of using a Samsung tablet also. Do you happen to sail
offshore, If so are you still able to run a Nav program in real time when
out of range of cell and wifi?

 

Cheers,

 

Tom Power

Invictus

C 30 MK1

Fredericton, NB

 

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I just received a Practical Sailor e-mail about a DIY project related to laptop 
navigating in lieu of a chartplotter.  Very timely for your discussion.

From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
Subject: Stus-List Tablet for navigation


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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I run OpenCPN on an old Samsung Tab S.  It does not have cell capability.
Works fine on satellite GPS service.

I had Navionics on it also.  That worked fine.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 9:57 AM T power via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> I was thinking of using a Samsung tablet also. Do you happen to sail
> offshore, If so are you still able to run a Nav program in real time when
> out of range of cell and wifi?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom Power <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Bruce
> Whitmore via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:43 AM
> *To:* Rick Brass via CnC-List
> *Cc:* Bruce Whitmore
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am going to mildly disagree with the statements about tablets having to
> be cellular capable.  I have an old (2014) Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet that
> is wifi only, and it has GPS capability that I have used on my boat.
>
> So while that statement might be right for other makes and models, it is
> not correct for my tablet.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

As it was mentioned a few times:

Only Apple devices (iPad) use a combination GPS/cellular radio and therefore, 
in order to use GPS, you need the cellular enabled model.

Generally, all others have a discrete GPS radio, so cellular option has no 
bearing on using the GPS.

Any GPS device can benefit from having an Internet connection (for the initial 
loading of the almanac (satellite positions information) and/or for the rough, 
initial positioning). However, it is not _required_ for its normal operation. 
Additionally, if a device is used frequently and not moved far between uses, 
that initial information is already maintained on the device.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Rick Brass via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 23:44
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

As has been pointed out before, you do not need to actually activate the 
cellular service on the tablet, it just needs to be cellular capable. That's 
because the cellular capable units have an internal GPS, which the WiFi only 
units do not. Now, if you have a WiFi network on your boat and it can transmit 
data from your GPS, then you don't even need cellular capability.

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Dan Sargeant via CnC-List]

You don’t need cell or wifi to run ...say, Navionics, on most tablets or 
phones. The gps operates independently of the networks. And the charts are in 
your device’s memory. My iPhone (IOS) and Samsung tablet (Android) serve as 
excellent chart plotters anywhere. I use Navionics but there are several 
others. Whether you can use them offshore or not depends on what charts you 
download to them. Unless you are going a long way offshore, most of the coastal 
Northeast North America (in my case) charts are sufficient.
Dan Sargeant
Ocean Pearl
C
Lunenburg, NS

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2019, at 11:56, T power  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> I was thinking of using a Samsung tablet also. Do you happen to sail 
> offshore, If so are you still able to run a Nav program in real time when out 
> of range of cell and wifi?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom Power
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Bruce Whitmore 
> via CnC-List 
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: Rick Brass via CnC-List
> Cc: Bruce Whitmore
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>  
> Hello all,
> 
> I am going to mildly disagree with the statements about tablets having to be 
> cellular capable.  I have an old (2014) Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet that is 
> wifi only, and it has GPS capability that I have used on my boat.
> 
> So while that statement might be right for other makes and models, it is not 
> correct for my tablet.
> 
> Kindest Regards, 
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Also, unlike the iPad the Samsung tablets (at least mine) will:

-Have a gps antenna in a non-cellular model.

-Run openCPN.

I use an iPad because I had two already when I went in this direction, but I 
also bought a small entry level Samsung tablet, tried it and it worked fine.

Next upgrade will migrate to Samsung/android.

 I also have a tablet/pc that can be connected to the n2k network via USB 
gateway at the navstation.   


Dave


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:44 PM, Rick Brass  wrote:
> 
> As has been pointed out before, you do not need to actually activate the 
> cellular service on the tablet, it just needs to be cellular capable. That’s 
> because the cellular capable units have an internal GPS, which the WiFi only 
> units do not. Now, if you have a WiFi network on your boat and it can 
> transmit data from your GPS, then you don’t even need cellular capability.
>  
> I use an old Gen3 IPad with the cell service not activated. I carry it with 
> when I do boat deliveries. It is the only chart plotter on those rare 
> occasions when I sail my 25. It was the defacto chart plotter for the 
> schooner that I was captain of, and was the original chart plotter on the 83 
> foot tour boat I work on.
>  
> But have you thought about buying another brand of tablet? My IPad was a 
> gift, so I’ve used it for the past 10 or 11 years. But I was in process of 
> getting a Samsung Galaxy tablet (on the recommendation of my son in law, who 
> is an IT guy) when I was given the IPad. The Samsung tablet is waterproof and 
> shock proof… and well less than half the cost of a new IPad.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil E. 
> Andersen via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:08 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Neil E. Andersen 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>  
> Tom,
>  
> The provider decision should be based on who has the best coverage for the 
> areas that you sail in.  I’m on the Chesapeake Bay (Eastern Shore) and AT 
> coverage is really bad unless and until you get in range of the Western Shore.
> Neil
> Neil Andersen 
> 1982 C 32 FoxFire
> Rock Hall, MD
> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com
> n...@sjyachts.com
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of T power via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:50 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: T power 
> Subject: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>  
> Hi,
> I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
> nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.
>  
> I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that 
> has cellular capability.
>  
> So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... 
>  
> So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only 
> using the cellular for the Navionics app?
>  
> Thanks for any help.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Tom
>  
> Tom Power
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

The older less expensive iPads did not have gps. My friend has one and bought a 
plug in gps for it. You can now get inexpensive WiFi enabled gps or GNSS pucks 
that can interface to the iPad by WiFi or Bluetooth.  These are very nice 
because you can place them where satellite reception is optimal so even if you 
are below deck you get a clear signal. 
GNNS is also very nice because it utilizes US GPS as well as foreign systems 
and operates at 9600 baud rather than 4800. I have one plugged into my computer 
along with OpenCPN and it is fast and deadly accurate. 

GNSS stands for Global Navigation Satellite System, and is the standard generic 
term for satellite navigation systems that provide autonomous geo-spatial 
positioning with global coverage. This term includes e.g. the GPS, GLONASS, 
Galileo, Beidou and other regional systems. GNSS is a term used worldwide The 
advantage to having access to multiple satellites is accuracy, redundancy and 
availability at all times.  Though satellite systems don't often fail, if one 
fails GNSS receivers can pick up signals from other systems.  Also if line of 
sight is obstructed, having access to multiple satellites is also a benefit.  
Common GNSS Systems are GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, Beidou and other regional 
systems.
  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2019, at 11:25 AM, G Collins via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't think out on the water counts as poor signal conditions.  My Sony 
> android tablet has a built in GPS receiver and runs Navionics perfectly, as 
> does my phone (which has no data plan, hence is not getting a location fix 
> via data).
> 
> Do the cheaper iPads not have a GPS chip in them?
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[G Collins via CnC-List]

I don't think out on the water counts as poor signal conditions.  My Sony 
android tablet has a built in GPS receiver and runs Navionics perfectly, as 
does my phone (which has no data plan, hence is not getting a location fix via 
data).

Do the cheaper iPads not have a GPS chip in them?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2019-01-19 12:17 p.m., Jerome Tauber via CnC-List wrote:
What this discussion is missing is the distinction between stand alone gps and 
assisted or augmented gps found in most mobile or cellular devices. Mobile 
devices having cell service or internet provider can augment gps. If the mobile 
device has no gps and no cell service it can still get a position from WiFi 
connection.  These are usually called location devices rather than gps and will 
only work with internet or cell service within range.  If the device also has a 
gps or has external gps access it will work anywhere that gps signals are 
available which is just about world wide. As long as your charts are downloaded 
on the device it should work anywhere.  The following discussion is from 
Wikipedia.


Standalone/self-ruling GPS 
devices<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_navigation_device> depend solely on 
information from satellites<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_satellite>. 
A-GPS augments that by using cell tower data to enhance quality and precision 
when in poor satellite signal conditions. In exceptionally poor signal 
conditions, for example in urban areas, satellite signals may exhibit multipath 
propagation<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipath_propagation> where 
signals skip off structures, or are 
weakened<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation#Absorption> by 
meteorological conditions or tree canopy. Some standalone GPS 
navigators<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_navigation_device> used in poor 
conditions can't fix a position because of satellite signal 
fracture<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Signal_fracture=edit=1>
 and must wait for better satellite reception. A regular GPS unit may need as 
long as 12.5 minutes (the time needed to download the GPS almanac and 
ephemerides<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_signals#Navigation_message>) to 
resolve the problem and be able to provide a correct 
location.[2]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS#cite_note-2>

An assisted GPS system can address these problems by using external data. 
Utilizing this system can come at a cost to the user. For billing purposes, 
network providers often count this as a data 
access<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_access>, which can cost money, 
depending on the 
plan.[3]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS#cite_note-cnet-3>

To be precise, A-GPS features depend mostly on an internet network or 
connection to an 
ISP<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Service_Provider>(or CNP, in the 
case of CP/mobile-phone device linked to a cellular network provider data 
service). A mobile (cell phone, smart phone) device with just an L1 front-end 
radio 
receiver<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Satellite_frequencies>and
 no GPS acquisition, tracking, and positioning engine only works when it has an 
internet connection to an ISP/CNP, where the position fix is calculated 
offboard the device itself. It doesn't work in areas with no coverage or 
internet link (or nearby base transceiver 
station<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_transceiver_station> (BTS) towers, 
in the case on CNP service coverage area). Without one of those resources, it 
can't connect to the A-GPS servers usually provided by CNPs. On the other hand, 
a mobile device with a GPS chipset requires no data connection to capture and 
process GPS data into a position solution, since it receives data directly from 
the GPS satellites and is able to calculate a position fix itself. However, the 
availability of a data connection can provide assistance to improve the 
performance of the GPS chip on the mobile device.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2019, at 10:56 AM, T power via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi Bruce,

I was thinking of using a Samsung tablet also. Do you happen to sail offshore, 
If so are you still able to run a Nav program in real time when out of range of 
cell and wifi?

Cheers,

Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:43 AM
To: Rick Brass via CnC-List
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

Hello all,

I am going to mildly disagree with the statements about tablets having to be 
cellular capable.  I have an old (2014) Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet that is wifi 
only, and it has GPS capability that I have used on my boa

Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

What this discussion is missing is the distinction between stand alone gps and 
assisted or augmented gps found in most mobile or cellular devices. Mobile 
devices having cell service or internet provider can augment gps. If the mobile 
device has no gps and no cell service it can still get a position from WiFi 
connection.  These are usually called location devices rather than gps and will 
only work with internet or cell service within range.  If the device also has a 
gps or has external gps access it will work anywhere that gps signals are 
available which is just about world wide. As long as your charts are downloaded 
on the device it should work anywhere.  The following discussion is from 
Wikipedia. 

Standalone/self-ruling GPS devices depend solely on information from 
satellites. A-GPS augments that by using cell tower data to enhance quality and 
precision when in poor satellite signal conditions. In exceptionally poor 
signal conditions, for example in urban areas, satellite signals may exhibit 
multipath propagation where signals skip off structures, or are weakened by 
meteorological conditions or tree canopy. Some standalone GPS navigators used 
in poor conditions can't fix a position because of satellite signal fracture 
and must wait for better satellite reception. A regular GPS unit may need as 
long as 12.5 minutes (the time needed to download the GPS almanac and 
ephemerides) to resolve the problem and be able to provide a correct 
location.[2]

An assisted GPS system can address these problems by using external data. 
Utilizing this system can come at a cost to the user. For billing purposes, 
network providers often count this as a data access, which can cost money, 
depending on the plan.[3]

To be precise, A-GPS features depend mostly on an internet network or 
connection to an ISP(or CNP, in the case of CP/mobile-phone device linked to a 
cellular network provider data service). A mobile (cell phone, smart phone) 
device with just an L1 front-end radio receiverand no GPS acquisition, 
tracking, and positioning engine only works when it has an internet connection 
to an ISP/CNP, where the position fix is calculated offboard the device itself. 
It doesn't work in areas with no coverage or internet link (or nearby base 
transceiver station (BTS) towers, in the case on CNP service coverage area). 
Without one of those resources, it can't connect to the A-GPS servers usually 
provided by CNPs. On the other hand, a mobile device with a GPS chipset 
requires no data connection to capture and process GPS data into a position 
solution, since it receives data directly from the GPS satellites and is able 
to calculate a position fix itself. However, the availability of a data 
connection can provide assistance to improve the performance of the GPS chip on 
the mobile device.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2019, at 10:56 AM, T power via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> I was thinking of using a Samsung tablet also. Do you happen to sail 
> offshore, If so are you still able to run a Nav program in real time when out 
> of range of cell and wifi?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom Power
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Bruce Whitmore 
> via CnC-List 
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: Rick Brass via CnC-List
> Cc: Bruce Whitmore
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>  
> Hello all,
> 
> I am going to mildly disagree with the statements about tablets having to be 
> cellular capable.  I have an old (2014) Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet that is 
> wifi only, and it has GPS capability that I have used on my boat.
> 
> So while that statement might be right for other makes and models, it is not 
> correct for my tablet.
> 
> Kindest Regards, 
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[T power via CnC-List]

Hi Bruce,

I was thinking of using a Samsung tablet also. Do you happen to sail offshore, 
If so are you still able to run a Nav program in real time when out of range of 
cell and wifi?

Cheers,

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:43 AM
To: Rick Brass via CnC-List
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

Hello all,

I am going to mildly disagree with the statements about tablets having to be 
cellular capable.  I have an old (2014) Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet that is wifi 
only, and it has GPS capability that I have used on my boat.

So while that statement might be right for other makes and models, it is not 
correct for my tablet.

Kindest Regards,

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net



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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,
I am going to mildly disagree with the statements about tablets having to be 
cellular capable.  I have an old (2014) Samsung Galaxy 10.1 tablet that is wifi 
only, and it has GPS capability that I have used on my boat.
So while that statement might be right for other makes and models, it is not 
correct for my tablet.
Kindest Regards, 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 


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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[T power via CnC-List]

I was just going to ask the question if I could use a Samsung tablet, they are 
half the price of the i pads. The tablet is going to be a backup. Basically I 
want to plan my route off ship. Be able to transfer the route to my chart 
plotter either Bluetooth, I also like the idea of having the tablet mirror the 
chart plotter while under way.

Cheers.

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation


As has been pointed out before, you do not need to actually activate the 
cellular service on the tablet, it just needs to be cellular capable. That’s 
because the cellular capable units have an internal GPS, which the WiFi only 
units do not. Now, if you have a WiFi network on your boat and it can transmit 
data from your GPS, then you don’t even need cellular capability.



I use an old Gen3 IPad with the cell service not activated. I carry it with 
when I do boat deliveries. It is the only chart plotter on those rare occasions 
when I sail my 25. It was the defacto chart plotter for the schooner that I was 
captain of, and was the original chart plotter on the 83 foot tour boat I work 
on.



But have you thought about buying another brand of tablet? My IPad was a gift, 
so I’ve used it for the past 10 or 11 years. But I was in process of getting a 
Samsung Galaxy tablet (on the recommendation of my son in law, who is an IT 
guy) when I was given the IPad. The Samsung tablet is waterproof and shock 
proof… and well less than half the cost of a new IPad.



Rick Brass

Washington, NC







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Cc: Neil E. Andersen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation



Tom,



The provider decision should be based on who has the best coverage for the 
areas that you sail in.  I’m on the Chesapeake Bay (Eastern Shore) and AT 
coverage is really bad unless and until you get in range of the Western Shore.

Neil

Neil Andersen
1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com<mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>

n...@sjyachts.com<mailto:n...@sjyachts.com>





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mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of T power via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: T power mailto:sv_invic...@outlook.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Tablet for navigation



Hi,

I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.



I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that has 
cellular capability.



So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...



So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only using 
the cellular for the Navionics app?



Thanks for any help.



Cheers,



Tom



Tom Power

Invictus

C 30 MK1

Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

As has been pointed out before, you do not need to actually activate the
cellular service on the tablet, it just needs to be cellular capable. That's
because the cellular capable units have an internal GPS, which the WiFi only
units do not. Now, if you have a WiFi network on your boat and it can
transmit data from your GPS, then you don't even need cellular capability.

 

I use an old Gen3 IPad with the cell service not activated. I carry it with
when I do boat deliveries. It is the only chart plotter on those rare
occasions when I sail my 25. It was the defacto chart plotter for the
schooner that I was captain of, and was the original chart plotter on the 83
foot tour boat I work on.

 

But have you thought about buying another brand of tablet? My IPad was a
gift, so I've used it for the past 10 or 11 years. But I was in process of
getting a Samsung Galaxy tablet (on the recommendation of my son in law, who
is an IT guy) when I was given the IPad. The Samsung tablet is waterproof
and shock proof. and well less than half the cost of a new IPad.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil E. Andersen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

 

Tom,

 

The provider decision should be based on who has the best coverage for the
areas that you sail in.  I'm on the Chesapeake Bay (Eastern Shore) and AT
coverage is really bad unless and until you get in range of the Western
Shore.

Neil 

Neil Andersen 
1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 <mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com

n...@sjyachts.com <mailto:n...@sjyachts.com> 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: T power mailto:sv_invic...@outlook.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

 

Hi,

I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use
for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper
charts.

 

I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that
has cellular capability.

 

So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... 

 

So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only
using the cellular for the Navionics app?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheers,

 

Tom

 

Tom Power

Invictus

C 30 MK1

Fredericton, NB

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Hi,

I just saw these advertised locally:
https://navigationlaptops.wordpress.com/

It appears he is loading OpenCPS on a variety of ruggedized laptops. No
experience or association with this company, but thought it looked
interesting and pricing is pretty good.


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:56 AM Adrian Humphreys via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We use an old 32 GB iPad2 (2011 or 2012) running iOS 9.3.5. It has no
> internal GPS or cellular.
>
> Installed iNavX and connect via bluetooth to an external GPS   (DUAL
> xgps150a). Load up all the raster charts we need at home via WiFi for free.
> With all the charts for New England to Canadian border loaded, we still
> have 21 GB available.
>
> Pros:
> - Cheap: iNavX is about $40; DUAL gps about $85; charts are free (except
> Canada).
> - Full-color raster charts.
> - Versatile: multiple uses for iPad; email, web, clock, count-down timing,
> notes, equipment manuals, for example.
> - Apparently will tie-in to AIS (we haven't tried that).
>
>
> Cons:
> - Bluetooth draws down the iPad battery; you want a connection to ship's
> power to run all day.
> - Not waterproof: ours lives on the nav table or swings into the
> companionway on a bracket. (The DUAL can see all the satellites through the
> cabin top.)
> - Screen can be hard to see in bright daylight.
> - Can't use vector charts.
>
> Net:
> A nice reliable system.
>
>
>
> Adrian Humphreys
> Epilogue - C 33-2
> Rockport, Maine
>
> > On Jan 14, 2019, at 7:50 PM, T power via CnC-List 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and
> use for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and
> paper charts.
> >
> > I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad
> that has cellular capability.
> >
> > So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...
> >
> > So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm
> only using the cellular for the Navionics app?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Tom Power
> > Invictus
> > C 30 MK1
> > Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Adrian Humphreys via CnC-List]

We use an old 32 GB iPad2 (2011 or 2012) running iOS 9.3.5. It has no internal 
GPS or cellular.

Installed iNavX and connect via bluetooth to an external GPS   (DUAL xgps150a). 
Load up all the raster charts we need at home via WiFi for free. With all the 
charts for New England to Canadian border loaded, we still have 21 GB available.

Pros:
- Cheap: iNavX is about $40; DUAL gps about $85; charts are free (except 
Canada).
- Full-color raster charts.
- Versatile: multiple uses for iPad; email, web, clock, count-down timing, 
notes, equipment manuals, for example.
- Apparently will tie-in to AIS (we haven't tried that).


Cons:
- Bluetooth draws down the iPad battery; you want a connection to ship's power 
to run all day.
- Not waterproof: ours lives on the nav table or swings into the companionway 
on a bracket. (The DUAL can see all the satellites through the cabin top.)
- Screen can be hard to see in bright daylight.
- Can't use vector charts.

Net:
A nice reliable system.



Adrian Humphreys
Epilogue - C 33-2
Rockport, Maine

> On Jan 14, 2019, at 7:50 PM, T power via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
> nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.
> 
> I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that 
> has cellular capability.
> 
> So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... 
> 
> So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only 
> using the cellular for the Navionics app?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom
> 
> Tom Power
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[T power via CnC-List]

Dan that open cpn setup looks really cool, I may try it out when the time 
comes, Lol I so new to side electronic that I just learned through you guys 
that I could go the Android route.

I primarily want it to do route planning while on land, be able to send it to 
my chartplotter, so I think I need one with an SD and usb slot.

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Shawn Wright via 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

I recently got an Acer 9.6 tablet for $160 CAD for travel, and eventually to 
use with Navionics or similar. I used it for a month in Costa Rica (where I 
tethered it to the data on my cell phone - 30 days/2Gb data for $20!) for email 
and GPS with google maps (we rented a car for 2 weeks) and it worked great. I 
bought this unit because it has two USB ports and a micro SD slot - I added 
another 64Gb storage, and I also used one of the USB ports to charge my cell 
phone via a micro USB to USB adapter, which also allows me to plug in an SD 
card reader for photo downloads. Not the most powerful tablet, but I like 
having the extra ports, so I only need to carry one USB wall charger to charge 
two devices.

I haven't tried Navonics yet, but may try Open Plotter first...

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:37 AM Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Tom,

As noted the Apple products have the GPS chip tied to the cell system - thus 
requiring you buy a more expensive cellular enabled unit.


Another option is Android tablets.  For $160 cdn you can get an Acer 8" screen 
Android tablet at Costco, or $230 for a 9.6" screen Samsung - neither has cell 
capacity but both should have the GPS capacity you're looking for.  Cheaper 
than the iPad.  Of course there are other Android options that rival the iPad 
costs - some even with built in waterproofing.


I use a couple older tablets for my navigation - download maps and info with 
WiFi when I'm at home.  They do come with one challenge that I've noticed - 
harder to find good cases for some of these tablets because they don't have the 
sales numbers of Apple.


Mark


There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana

On 2019-01-14 9:23 p.m., T power via CnC-List wrote:
Awesome, thanks, much appreciated

Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:15 PM
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Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular capable (not all of them 
are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Joel Aronson<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

Tom

No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared with 
the cell antenna in the iPad.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.

I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that has 
cellular capability.

So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...

So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only using 
the cellular for the Navionics app?

Thanks for any help.

Cheers,

Tom

Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

I recently got an Acer 9.6 tablet for $160 CAD for travel, and eventually
to use with Navionics or similar. I used it for a month in Costa Rica
(where I tethered it to the data on my cell phone - 30 days/2Gb data for
$20!) for email and GPS with google maps (we rented a car for 2 weeks) and
it worked great. I bought this unit because it has two USB ports and a
micro SD slot - I added another 64Gb storage, and I also used one of the
USB ports to charge my cell phone via a micro USB to USB adapter, which
also allows me to plug in an SD card reader for photo downloads. Not the
most powerful tablet, but I like having the extra ports, so I only need to
carry one USB wall charger to charge two devices.

I haven't tried Navonics yet, but may try Open Plotter first...

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:37 AM Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Tom,
>
> As noted the Apple products have the GPS chip tied to the cell system -
> thus requiring you buy a more expensive cellular enabled unit.
>
>
> Another option is Android tablets.  For $160 cdn you can get an Acer 8"
> screen Android tablet at Costco, or $230 for a 9.6" screen Samsung -
> neither has cell capacity but both should have the GPS capacity you're
> looking for.  Cheaper than the iPad.  Of course there are other Android
> options that rival the iPad costs - some even with built in waterproofing.
>
>
> I use a couple older tablets for my navigation - download maps and info
> with WiFi when I'm at home.  They do come with one challenge that I've
> noticed - harder to find good cases for some of these tablets because they
> don't have the sales numbers of Apple.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
>   - George Santayana
>
> On 2019-01-14 9:23 p.m., T power via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Awesome, thanks, much appreciated
>
> Tom Power
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
> --
> *From:* CnC-List 
>  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford via
> CnC-List  
> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 9:15 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>
> To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular *capable* (not all of
> them are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>
> Tom
>
> No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared
> with the cell antenna in the iPad.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use
> for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper
> charts.
>
> I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that
> has cellular capability.
>
> So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...
>
> So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only
> using the cellular for the Navionics app?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>
> Tom Power
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I run OpenCPN on an old Samsung Galaxy Tab 3.  It runs Android 4.2 or
similar.  You don't need much tablet for many of the apps.

It seems to work fine.  I rarely fire it up for navigation as I much prefer
dedicated marine GPS systems.

I would consider a used Garmin GPSMap 64, 76 or similar handheld off eBay
also.  Better visibility in daylight.  Waterproof.  I have an old GPSMap 45
as my 3rd backup.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 12:37 PM Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Another option is Android tablets.  For $160 cdn you can get an Acer 8"
> screen Android tablet at Costco, or $230 for a 9.6" screen Samsung -
> neither has cell capacity but both should have the GPS capacity you're
> looking for.  Cheaper than the iPad.  Of course there are other Android
> options that rival the iPad costs - some even with built in waterproofing.
>
>
>
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[CHRIS PRICE via CnC-List]

Inavx, cheap ipad and a $20 Bad Elf gps. On January 15, 2019 at 1:37 PM "Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List"  wrote:  Tom,As noted the Apple products have the GPS chip tied to the cell system - thus requiring you buy a more expensive cellular enabled unit.Another option is Android tablets.  For $160 cdn you can get an Acer 8" screen Android tablet at Costco, or $230 for a 9.6" screen Samsung - neither has cell capacity but both should have the GPS capacity you're looking for.  Cheaper than the iPad.  Of course there are other Android options that rival the iPad costs - some even with built in waterproofing.I use a couple older tablets for my navigation - download maps and info with WiFi when I'm at home.  They do come with one challenge that I've noticed - harder to find good cases for some of these tablets because they don't have the sales numbers of Apple.MarkThere is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George SantayanaOn 2019-01-14 9:23 p.m., T power via CnC-List wrote: Awesome, thanks, much appreciatedTom PowerInvictusC 30 MK1Fredericton, NBFrom: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:15 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular capable (not all of them are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan. From:  Joel Aronson via CnC-ListSent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PMTo:  cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc:  Joel AronsonSubject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation Tom No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared with the cell antenna in the iPad. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hi,I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts. I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that has cellular capability. So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only using the cellular for the Navionics app? Thanks for any help. Cheers, Tom Tom PowerInvictusC 30 MK1Fredericton, NB___   Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  -- Joel  301 541 8551___   Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  ___

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  


Tom,
As noted the Apple products have the GPS chip tied to the cell
  system - thus requiring you buy a more expensive cellular enabled
  unit.


Another option is Android tablets.  For $160 cdn you can get an
  Acer 8" screen Android tablet at Costco, or $230 for a 9.6" screen
  Samsung - neither has cell capacity but both should have the GPS
  capacity you're looking for.  Cheaper than the iPad.  Of course
  there are other Android options that rival the iPad costs - some
  even with built in waterproofing.



I use a couple older tablets for my navigation - download maps
  and info with WiFi when I'm at home.  They do come with one
  challenge that I've noticed - harder to find good cases for some
  of these tablets because they don't have the sales numbers of
  Apple.



Mark





There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2019-01-14 9:23 p.m., T power via
  CnC-List wrote:


  
  
  
Awesome, thanks, much appreciated
  

  
  

  
Tom Power
  
Invictus
  
C 30 MK1
  
Fredericton, NB

  
  
  From:
  CnC-List  on behalf of
  Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:15 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
 
  
  

  
To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular capable
  (not all of them are).  Joel is correct that you need not
  activate the cell plan.

  
 

  From: 
  Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
  To: 
  cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: 
  Joel Aronson 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for
    navigation

  
   


  
Tom
  
   
  No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS
antenna is shared with the cell antenna in the iPad.
  
  
 

  On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power
via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
  
  

  
Hi,
  
I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the
navionics app to plan and use for nav purposes
on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter
and paper charts.
  
 
  
I read that to use the Navionics app on the
water to purchase an ipad that has cellular
capability.
  
 
  
So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G
AT, Verizon, etc... 
  
 
  
So my Question is; Does it matter what provider
is noted because I'm only using the cellular for
the Navionics app?
  
 
  
Thanks for any help.
  
 
  
Cheers,
  
 
  
Tom
  
 
  

  
Tom Power
  
Invictus
  
C 30 MK1
  
Fredericton, NB

  

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Dan via CnC-List]

Bill,
I use it to collect all my data from my old instruments, and multiplex it
just like a Raymarine or B Master control unit. It runs it's own chart
plotter or I can send all my data out through wifi to my tablet or laptop
and use them as a chart plotter. The card is only $50. A a bit of a
headache to set it all up (it took me 2 months off and on) it runs on
Linux. It's rather complicated - too complicated for me as I'm not a coder,
but there's a full operating system and software (free and open source)
called Open Plotter that you install like Windows and it basically sets you
up. You have to figure out how it works and follow guides to get setup, but
no coding necessary.

Dan
Breakaweigh
C
Halifax, NS



On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 12:45 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This is interesting, Dan, I have just been reading about these Raspberry
> Pi units and they look like fun to play with.
>
> What exactly do you use it for on your boat? I think this uses Linux, If I
> remember correctly. Can you put charts on them?
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:34 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dan
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>
>
>
> I JUST posted a video about this, except I use a Raspberry Pi for my
> Ship's data, and OpenCPN on my tablet. I've read that you CAN get navionics
> to read the wifi signal, but you need to find out what specific NMEA
> strings Navionics needs. I don't think it uses the standard ones for
> proprietary reasons (or something like that)
>
>
>
> Here's the video:
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/U3ucE3Rx7Tw
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Breakaweigh
>
> C
>
> Halifax, NS
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 9:35 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I use iNavX on my old iPad. I like Navionics better, but iNavX will take
> GPS and AIS info via wifi link from my network and Navionics will not. This
> iPad is not cell-equipped and has no GPS of its own.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> On 1/14/2019 8:15 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:
>
> To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular *capable* (not all of
> them are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.
>
>
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared
> with the cell antenna in the iPad.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use
> for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper
> charts.
>
>
>
> I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that
> has cellular capability.
>
>
>
> So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...
>
>
>
> So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only
> using the cellular for the Navionics app?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Tom Power
>
> Invictus
>
> C 30 MK1
>
> Fredericton, NB
>
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

This is interesting, Dan, I have just been reading about these Raspberry Pi 
units and they look like fun to play with.

What exactly do you use it for on your boat? I think this uses Linux, If I 
remember correctly. Can you put charts on them?

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie, PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dan via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

 

I JUST posted a video about this, except I use a Raspberry Pi for my Ship's 
data, and OpenCPN on my tablet. I've read that you CAN get navionics to read 
the wifi signal, but you need to find out what specific NMEA strings Navionics 
needs. I don't think it uses the standard ones for proprietary reasons (or 
something like that)

 

Here's the video:

 

https://youtu.be/U3ucE3Rx7Tw

 

Dan

Breakaweigh

C

Halifax, NS

 

 

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 9:35 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I use iNavX on my old iPad. I like Navionics better, but iNavX will take GPS 
and AIS info via wifi link from my network and Navionics will not. This iPad is 
not cell-equipped and has no GPS of its own.

Joe

Coquina





On 1/14/2019 8:15 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:

To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular capable (not all of them 
are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.

 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>  

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Cc: Joel Aronson <mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>  

Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

 

Tom

 

No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared with 
the cell antenna in the iPad. 

 

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi,

I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.

 

I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that has 
cellular capability.

 

So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... 

 

So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only using 
the cellular for the Navionics app?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheers,

 

Tom

 

Tom Power

Invictus

C 30 MK1

Fredericton, NB

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List]

Very true, but you do need cell or Wi-Fi coverage if you need to download maps, 
etc.  What about integrating AIS or other apps like Windy, NOAA weather, etc.

Neil 

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1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

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From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

 

Tom

 

No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared with 
the cell antenna in the iPad. 

 

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.

 

I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that has 
cellular capability.

 

So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... 

 

So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only using 
the cellular for the Navionics app?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheers,

 

Tom

 

Tom Power

Invictus

C 30 MK1

Fredericton, NB

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List]

Tom,

 

The provider decision should be based on who has the best coverage for the
areas that you sail in.  I'm on the Chesapeake Bay (Eastern Shore) and AT
coverage is really bad unless and until you get in range of the Western
Shore.

Neil 

Neil Andersen 
1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

  neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com

n...@sjyachts.com  

 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of T power via
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T power 
Subject: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

 

Hi,

I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use
for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper
charts.

 

I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that
has cellular capability.

 

So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... 

 

So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only
using the cellular for the Navionics app?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheers,

 

Tom

 

Tom Power

Invictus

C 30 MK1

Fredericton, NB

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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Dan via CnC-List]

I JUST posted a video about this, except I use a Raspberry Pi for my Ship's
data, and OpenCPN on my tablet. I've read that you CAN get navionics to
read the wifi signal, but you need to find out what specific NMEA strings
Navionics needs. I don't think it uses the standard ones for proprietary
reasons (or something like that)

Here's the video:

https://youtu.be/U3ucE3Rx7Tw

Dan
Breakaweigh
C
Halifax, NS


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 9:35 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I use iNavX on my old iPad. I like Navionics better, but iNavX will take
> GPS and AIS info via wifi link from my network and Navionics will not. This
> iPad is not cell-equipped and has no GPS of its own.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> On 1/14/2019 8:15 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:
>
> To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular *capable* (not all of
> them are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
>
> Tom
>
> No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared
> with the cell antenna in the iPad.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use
>> for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper
>> charts.
>>
>> I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad
>> that has cellular capability.
>>
>> So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...
>>
>> So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only
>> using the cellular for the Navionics app?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Tom Power
>> Invictus
>> C 30 MK1
>> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I use iNavX on my old iPad. I like Navionics better, but iNavX will take 
GPS and AIS info via wifi link from my network and Navionics will not. 
This iPad is not cell-equipped and has no GPS of its own.


Joe

Coquina


On 1/14/2019 8:15 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:
To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular /capable/ (not all 
of them are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.

*From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* Joel Aronson <mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation
Tom
No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is 
shared with the cell antenna in the iPad.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Hi,
I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan
and use for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart
plotter and paper charts.
I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an
ipad that has cellular capability.
So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon,
etc...
So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because
I'm only using the cellular for the Navionics app?
Thanks for any help.
Cheers,
Tom
Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[T power via CnC-List]

Awesome, thanks, much appreciated

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 9:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular capable (not all of them 
are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Joel Aronson<mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

Tom

No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared with 
the cell antenna in the iPad.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.

I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that has 
cellular capability.

So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...

So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only using 
the cellular for the Navionics app?

Thanks for any help.

Cheers,

Tom

Tom Power
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

To add to Joel’s comment, the iPad must be cellular capable (not all of them 
are).  Joel is correct that you need not activate the cell plan.

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

Tom

No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared with 
the cell antenna in the iPad. 

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List  
wrote:

  Hi,
  I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use for 
nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper charts.

  I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that 
has cellular capability.

  So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc... 

  So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only 
using the cellular for the Navionics app?

  Thanks for any help.

  Cheers,

  Tom

  Tom Power
  Invictus
  C 30 MK1
  Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet for navigation

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Tom

No. You don’t need to activate the cell plan. The GPS antenna is shared
with the cell antenna in the iPad.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:51 PM T power via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi,
> I would like to use an ipad mini 2 with the navionics app to plan and use
> for nav purposes on my boat, this will back up my chart plotter and paper
> charts.
>
> I read that to use the Navionics app on the water to purchase an ipad that
> has cellular capability.
>
> So I'm looking at Best buy and see ipads with 4G AT, Verizon, etc...
>
> So my Question is; Does it matter what provider is noted because I'm only
> using the cellular for the Navionics app?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>
> Tom Power 
> Invictus
> C 30 MK1
> Fredericton, NB
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Re: Stus-List Tablet For Navigation...

[David via CnC-List]

I will take it!  Have you a PayPal acct?

Get Outlook for Android


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:27:55 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tablet For Navigation...

I have a spare Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus in leather case with screen protector.  
Model # GT-P6210.  $30 plus shipping.  Android 4.0.4 Not sure if the current 
Navionics will run on that version of Android.  I had Navionics on it a few 
years ago.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:04 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Need to buy a replacement.  Anybody here want to sell a surplus unit?


Rather keep the money in the "family"...


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650

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Re: Stus-List Tablet For Navigation...

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I have a spare Samsung Tab 7.0 Plus in leather case with screen protector.
Model # GT-P6210.  $30 plus shipping.  Android 4.0.4 Not sure if the
current Navionics will run on that version of Android.  I had Navionics on
it a few years ago.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 11:04 AM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Need to buy a replacement.  Anybody here want to sell a surplus unit?
>
>
> Rather keep the money in the "family"...
>
>
> *David F. Risch, J. D.*
>
> *Gulf Stream Associates, LLC*
>
>
> *(401) 419-4650 *
>
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