Re: Political Candidate Relations
On 07/02/2014 02:20 PM, McGovern, James wrote: I have decided to run for State Representative and often get questions from other candidates regarding ways government can be made more efficient. Do you think there is merit in technology groups such as Apache holding forums to educate elected officials on the value of open source? http://facebook.com/McGovernForCT I know that this isn't an answer to your question, but ... I strongly recommend Jason Hibbets' book The Foundation for an Open Source City. He keynoted at ApacheCon in Denver, and I would be glad to put you in touch with him. He thinks a lot about this topic, and has met with many government officials about applying the principles of Open Source to government. We also had another talk at ApacheCon on this topic, although at this moment I can't remember who gave that talk. -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: Low level community
I wonder if the Attic needs a page on Staying out of the Attic :) That's a great idea. While there are a number of good, positive reasons for entering the attic, some projects slip there because they don't know how to attract new interest.
Re: Anti-Discrimination policy and related topics
On 05/02/2014 02:41 PM, Joan Touzet wrote: In researching resources available within the ASF I came across this page: https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/ which states that an ASF Anti-Discrimination Policy is coming soon. It's worth noting that coming soon is in the first version of that page (r794049) in svn [1], which dates 2011-08-08 19:45:00 -0400 (Mon, 08 Aug 2011), so I wouldn't hold your breath. [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/www/content/foundation/policies -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: Open Source Organizational Culture
I would recommend sending the email to committers@a.o, but be aware that Apache participants, due to our visible spot in the open source ecosystem, get a *lot* of surveys and tend to ignore most of them. -- Rich Bowen, mobile edition rbo...@rcbowen.com On Apr 22, 2014 10:02 AM, Storm-Olsen, Marius marius.storm-ol...@student.bi.no wrote: Hi, As part of the research into a thesis on Open Source Organizational Culture, I want to send out a short survey to the Apache organization. However, given that the Apache community is so large, with numerous individual projects under its umbrella, I wanted to check with the community list first; both to seek explicit permission for doing so, and to figure out what would be the best way to send out such a survey without spamming the community. The survey is short (10-15 minutes), and the results - with raw but anonymized data - will be public, and available to the whole Open Source community. The larger the participation, the more statistically relevant data, and the better we can interpret the results across OSS as a whole. I have included the email I would want to send out below, for your consideration. Sincerely, Marius Storm-Olsen -- Hi, I would like to request your participation in a survey on Open Source Organizational Culture, which will provide valuable insight into how Open Source projects are run, how their participants act, how they might change going forward, and how particular Open Source projects compare with one another and with traditional business cultures. The survey will take 10-15 minutes to complete. http://bit.ly/OSOCAS2014 Why? The survey will be used as part of my thesis on Open Source Organizational Culture at BI Norwegian Business School (www.bi.no/en, or www.bi.edu), but in true Open Source spirit the raw - but anonymized - results will be open for all. So, your Open Source project will be able to massage and dissect the results any way you wish, and see how you compare with other projects out there. Up until now, most research in Open Source culture has been based on mining mailing lists to find out how people act, who they interact with, and how projects organize themselves. In this research we would rather ask the participants directly about how a project is managed and what should change for the project to be spectacularly successful. When? - The survey is open now through May 1st. Where? -- The bit.ly address brings you to the following survey https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1587798/osocas-2014 Remember that you can save your progress at any time and come back to the survey at a later point when you have time to finish it. Who are you? My name is Marius Storm-Olsen, and I am currently working on a thesis on Open Source Organizational Culture. I've been an active part of Open Source for years, most notably on the Qt and Git projects. Although I have my own experiences to draw on in the thesis, they do not qualify for the Open Source community at large, hence the survey. How to help? If you want to help, feel free to forward this email to any Open Source project you would want to participate the survey. Once you have send the invitation, please either send me an email with the name of the project, or update the table shown on https://github.com/mstormo/OSOCAS/wiki I do hope you can participate, and thank you for your consideration! Best regards, Marius Storm-Olsen
Fwd: Anonymous-OS
FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Anonymous Os anonymou...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Anonymous-OS Date: March 15, 2012 5:02:14 PM EDT To: Rich Bowen rbo...@geek.net Reply-To: Anonymous Os anonymou...@yahoo.com Of course we read in various forums and blogs about all that. Just for info about Anonymoys-OS is ubuntu-based distro without all that said some sites (“is wrapped in trojans”, “backdoored OS by any Law enforcement Company or Hacker”, etc.). Perhaps these sites trying to fight the opensource projects and we unwittingly gave them food. We don't know the real reason. Maybe about the name. We had decided that if we feel that our efforts cause a bad thing for Linux and opensource, then we will stop this effort. We received a large number of mail which is mixed (positive negative) but mostly positive. Anyway, we think that SourceForge acts properly. Just we want, after you test Anonymous-OS, if you do that, inform those who use Anonymous-OS there was no danger for all that was said. This not for us, just to know that in Linux and opensource world, there is not virus and trojans on Linux distros, because we have other philosofy. These and apologize if we upset the SourceForge. From: Rich Bowen rbo...@geek.net To: Anonymous-OS anonymou...@yahoo.com Cc: sfcommunity communityt...@sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:05 PM Subject: Anonymous-OS Hi, Rich Bowen here from SourceForge. No doubt you're aware of the stir that you've caused in the press. Based on the information that we currently have available to us, we've decided to suspend your project, anonymous-os, until we are persuaded that we shouldn't. This isn't an attack on you - we have two very specific concerns that you'd need to address before we'd consider putting this project back online: 1) The name of the project seems to be intentionally misleading, and the Anonymous group itself has disavowed any connection with the project. 2) Without any source code, it's impossible, or at least very difficult, to have any peer review of your product. The accusations of malware, viruses, and so on, must be taken seriously. This is especially true of a project that claims to be a security distribution. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do to be of help. -- Rich Bowen :: rbo...@geek.net :: @rbowen Community Growth Hacker SourceForge.net :: @sourceforge This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you. -- Rich Bowen :: rbo...@geek.net :: @rbowen Community Growth Hacker SourceForge.net :: @sourceforge This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Oops
Geez. I thought I'd solved that problem already. I'm embarrassed again. This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Sourceforge WP theme
So, after messing with WP for most of a day, I find that the prospect of making a WP theme is much more difficult than the documentation leads me to believe. That, and the fact that I have no design skills to speak of. A few years ago, I started a blog software project called Habari. It was a reaction to the not-so-benevolent dictatorship model of Wordpress. That project is here: http://habariproject.org/en/ No, I'm not suggesting we use Habari. It's a nice project, but it's developed on Github. (Not my call. I'm no longer involved in the project.) But with my association with that project, I'm familiar with a number of professional and amateur Wordpress theme developers. I wonder if it might be worthwhile getting one of them to do a SF WP theme, rather than my rather lame fumblings about. -- Rich Bowen :: rbo...@geek.net :: @rbowen Community Growth Hacker SourceForge.net :: @sourceforge This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Sourceforge WP theme
Now that I've managed to do this twice in one week, I'm going to go crawl into a hole. -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com :: @rbowen rbo...@apache.org
Consulting rates
I've been asked to take a little consulting job, and inevitably the what do you charge question came around. I have not even the vaguest idea. Can someone give me a feel for what the ballpark is these days? (Eastern USA, if it matters.) -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: Consulting rates
On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: On 8 Nov 2010, at 15:37, Rich Bowen wrote: I've been asked to take a little consulting job, and inevitably the what do you charge question came around. I have not even the vaguest idea. Can someone give me a feel for what the ballpark is these days? (Eastern USA, if it matters.) Happy to help - what is roughly the task ? And where does the customer see the value of you (speed, quality, sheer complexity/rare- skill, name/reliability) ? The task is in the trivial-to-easy range - configuring a somewhat common kind of proxy scenario. It's the kind of thing that I'd answer for free on IRC a half-dozen times a day. As I understand it, the customer feels that their application is secret in some way, and they want confidential tech support. The whole NDA business and everything. My value is my reputation with mod_rewrite. -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: Forking is a Feature reactions?
On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Santiago Gala wrote: I see the dscm is an unsuitable workflow for collaborative development meme as this: a meme. I don't see it as unsuitable. I see it as different. It's different in a lot of ways, but is neither better nor worse. The insistence that it's better is no less annoying than the insistence that it's worse. A lot of my personal resistance to git has been, since the beginning, that people have told me I'm an idiot for using svn. That kind of persuasion hasn't been persuasive. Now that I've used git, it seems like just a different way of doing the same thing. And not different in ways that I found appealing. Just different. So I had to learn how to do exactly the same things in new ways. This didn't seem like progress to me. I've read dozens of articles about how it's so much better, including several by you, Santiago, and while I follow your reasoning, it didn't coincide with my experience in the real world. And, yes, I did use github, and I simply don't agree that using a website to manage my code is somehow more wonderful than using svn command-line tools. The reality was that, as a creature of habit, moving my stuff to a web- centric interface, made me forget about the project that I was working on. Fortunately, every time I read something about the superiority of github - which is about once a week - I'm reminded that it's out there. -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: Dinner Sunday night
On Oct 24, 2009, at 16:38 , Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Hi, it seems that the board is unable to decide whether the dinner on Sunday night will/should/can/may include the lesser ASF officers (such as PMC chairs), members or anyone else that is up for dinner. So be it. To anyone who is in Oakland by Sunday night: Who is up for dinner? I'll probably be at the hotel late afternoon. I don't get in until about 9:30, so possibly after-dinner drinks would be a possibility. -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: ApacheCon at ASIA
Tetsuya, If you have contacts in any of these locations, I would encourage you to subscribe to the concom mailing list and join the discussion there. Venues for conferences, including Asia conferences, are being discussed there. Also, there's a few years of accumulated knowledge of what has and has not worked in Asia, including some attempts to hold events in China. --Rich On Oct 21, 2009, at 07:15 , Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: The concom is currently planning an Apache road show in Beijing and Colombo for Nov/Dec this year. I'm not sure how widely this event has yet been publicised, at least [1] or [2] don't yet mention it. [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/conferences.html [2] http://us.apachecon.com/c/ If in Beijing, Japanese and Korean can participate really easily. (and we can understand Chinese characters). # Plus, I am sure that there could be a lot of Sponsors there. # Our language is very similar to Chinese. Samsung (Korea) # etc. ... maybe? If Colombo, we can not. (Take so much money) - and the Japanese company won't be the sponsors. Hold in China , gather a lot of money and take the Sri Lankans for free (in a sense) to China would be the wiser solution. maybe. Just a short comment. Ty. Jukka Zitting Tetsuya Kitahata - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Arrack
At the risk of being way off topic ... well, I suppose it's all about Apache community, hmm? Hey, can one of you Sri Lankan gentlemen who is coming to ApacheCon bring me a bottle of Arrack? I'd be glad to compensate you for your cost and trouble, and buy you a couple drinks in Oakland. I've spoken to my wife glowingly of the evening in Kitulgala when we drank Arrack in the coal-black darkness, lit only by the gentle glow of cell phones, with the roar of the river so loud we had to shout to be heard, and, well, she wants to try some. Arrack in Kitulgala October 12, 2009 As the old saying doesn’t go, but should, experience is the best seasoning. One can’t expect arrack to taste the same in a quiet, well lit parlor as it did in the coal-black night, lit only by a few stars and the gently glowing cell phones of a dozen new friends, with the roar of the unseen river drowning all but shouted conversation. Nor will стандарт remain the same as one gets farther and farther from Arbatskaya, chill the throat as it did in the garishly lit, painfully loud bar, football blaring from ten different screens, the men drinking while the women wept at the Holy Friday service. Do visitors to the Bluegrass sit at home, drinking Ale 8 and Kentucky Ale, shake their heads deprecatingly, say, sorrowfully, it just doesn’t taste the same as it did in Lexington.
Re: [OpenPGP] Moving Away From DSA and SHA-1
Is it possible to regenerate my gpg key without losing all the signatures on my existing key? I presume not, but perhaps there's something I'm missing. I have a 1024 bit key, and would like to be like the cook kids, but not lose ten years of signatures. On Aug 11, 2009, at 08:39, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 with ApacheConUS only three months away, we really need to start planning how apache can move away from short keys (DSA and RSA 2048) and weak WOT links (SHA-1)[1]. the consensus on infra was that this is the best list for this discussion. if it happens to get too busy then a new list can be created. the first step needs to be updating the documents so that new release managers know how to set up and use GnuPG[2] to generate keys unlikely to need changing in the next couple of years. i'll start a thread over on site dev to cover this. the first question for discussion is recommended key length. 2048 is the minimum safe size for new keys but only just. for keys used to sign releases, 4096 is more credible today. 8192 bit keys are possible with GnuPG[3] but are fiddly and - in older tools - support may be patchy. going for 4096 would mean a second transition before 2015 but the next generation (SHA-3 and next generation of OpenPGP) should be available by then. consensus on infra was to go for 4096 but if anyone knows any good reasons to go for some other value, please jump in. - - robert [1] http://www.jroller.com/robertburrelldonkin/entry/release_distribution_renewing_the_web [2] http://www.gnupg.org [3] http://www.jroller.com/robertburrelldonkin/entry/gnupg_8192bit_rsa_keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJKgWaEAAoJEHl6NpRAqILLzzQP/RI/ZpkauHrLMzW48lNRsmUc h9a4HJ1WXL6eESSbJK9rawPxrAvG/p3rbH3TTixIkwLPz8BQDuG8kxmTHn8LDlGg /YLZbDtgFpF3SElGn1MbzldI48DTgw/JXa4opVHi/gvSAoA72+P7td5D12YiA+6R Urr6I8hcDOdHRfDsXPHbu5MLh4S//vVgrdOXahLqwzwJK0GCdsjJ88RGJgPXrWfH abfzKY3jGUheLtIJUbQiMI2IKA5VrCK+WMXoWxnqnnxL6JDQUGXfpai5dxoRy22D wcv6UN+FIUF8OCBymYRXMcngwczYDkYkUyrVEjOSlnmtC4rHKq/wZGtn3VJGSCEf hLoSC+aZ+HLHxK5pA0ZxRs4IFhMtTijV5ng6VA1aOPW0N1ySIUd7fgAO7QpksCcL 84LZMAzstH48Ce2Zzrj8oJ5NLYIR531Mh0C7N/JRkUdPLTXDByvXBTJ9uRXoRw6v a1IexoewUxXfAcR2Yi0lVtkL9ZBVWMm/caXpSqLHKxFvQND71dWg+7UsfJR057c3 CP5bwJIp4dANLOeYa6kj07b+Xu2ZutKBAdZWSH/u3lx1Grh3apq1gbGmdoyKyLyj d4px2wyB6oWS5C3ZEdAG8oy9QC1LERgnqTt7kMGMNl5j8E1AAMsPTw7laULss1S1 itF2Nys9bJZA1dfQTx7B =w79Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org -- If you miss this moment You miss your life - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Re: [OpenPGP] Moving Away From DSA and SHA-1
On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:13, Tony Stevenson wrote: You cannot retrospectively 'upgrade' your key, AIUI, at least. So you will sadly lose all your signatures as you will need a new key. Thankfully I created mine with a 4096 key length so I'm ok, but I get impression many folks wont be. Get your key created now, and at Apachecon we will have to have a large key signing party. :) Pity. Also, there's the issue of being unable to read encrypted email I receive by the old key. But I suppose that I can deal with that on a case-by-case basis. And hardly anybody sends me encrypted email any more anyways. Ok. Generating new key. I guess this is my chance to purge all of those former employer email addresses from my key, too. -- We are here and it is now. Further than that all human knowledge is moonshine. H.L.Mencken - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-h...@apache.org
Three Apache folks in the newspaper
Not that it's at all Apache related, but three Apache folks were featured in today's Lexington Herald-Leader: http://www.kentucky.com/156/story/463346.html -- Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar. Edward R. Murrow
Geek book collectors
A friend of mine is doing a newspaper article about the seemingly contradictory trend that he's noticed that many geeks also are voracious readers and have large book collections. I spend 10 hours a day staring at a computer screen, but I have a book collection of close to 1000 books. Yes, I have a problem. Anyways, I was wondering if any of you folks share my problem, and would be willing to speak (or email) briefly with someone who's interested in getting to the bottom of our psychosis, and understanding why people so interested in computers and the internet would also care about something as archaic as ink on paper. If you'd be willing, please drop me a note, and I can put you in touch with him. Thanks. -- Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Ghandi
Re: Geek book collectors
Thanks, folks. The response was immediate and overwhelming. I think he's got enough to round out his research. :-) It's good to know I'm not the only one with a problem. On Feb 7, 2008, at 09:43, Rich Bowen wrote: A friend of mine is doing a newspaper article about the seemingly contradictory trend that he's noticed that many geeks also are voracious readers and have large book collections. I spend 10 hours a day staring at a computer screen, but I have a book collection of close to 1000 books. Yes, I have a problem. Anyways, I was wondering if any of you folks share my problem, and would be willing to speak (or email) briefly with someone who's interested in getting to the bottom of our psychosis, and understanding why people so interested in computers and the internet would also care about something as archaic as ink on paper. If you'd be willing, please drop me a note, and I can put you in touch with him. Thanks. -- Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Ghandi -- Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ApacheCon EU 2007 CFP extended slightly
Due to technical difficulties on the ApacheCon website, a number of people had difficulty submitting their papers, or logging in, and also due to the holiday in the USA, we are extending the CFP through Tuesday, 23:59 EDT, so that people won't be left out of this process due to problems outside of their control. It is our sincere hope to not have to extend it any further, so that there can be some review by as large a number of people as possible prior to the talk selection meeting. Thanks for your patience. -- Rich Bowen, for the ApacheCon Planners [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ApacheCon EU CFP deadline: Friday, 12 January
If you haven't responded to the Call for Papers and are interested in doing so, the deadline is Friday, 12 January. Submission guidelines, presentation criteria, key dates and other information are available at http://www.apachecon.com/ Questions not addressed in the CFP document may be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please help us make sure that your project is represented at ApacheCon. Rich, for the ApacheCon Planners [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ApacheCon EU
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi there, are there any of you guys arriving on Sunday in Dublin? If so, any plans already ? I think I'm coming in Saturday evening. I'd be up for whatever. :-) --Rich - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ApacheCon EU 2006
The ApacheCon Planners are pleased to announce that ApacheCon Europe 2006 will be held in Dublin, Ireland, at the Burlington Hotel (http://www.jurysdoyle.com/ireland/doyle_burlington.htm), June 26-30. Further details to follow as they are available. CFP to follow shortly. Please feel free to spread this information far and wide. -- Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LinuxWorld Canada is looking for a speaker on Apache
Brett Porter wrote: I was contacted by someone looking for a speaker at LinuxWorld Canada (Apr 24-26). I couldn't think of anywhere I could point them in general, so I thought I'd check here. I believe they are more interested in httpd/LAMP-style things rather than ASF as a whole, but were particularly looking for a non-vendor speaker. Is anyone interested, or is there a better forum for this sort of thing I could point them at? I'm interested. -- Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: I need a Tomcat Consultant experience]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My experience with Tomcat ends at the feline. But, if anyone wants to follow up on this, feel free to tell them to pass the enormous referral bonus back to me. :-) On the other hand, for all I know, she spammed *all* the members. - Original Message Subject: I need a Tomcat Consultant experience Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:37:37 -0800 From: Suzie Jimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help... I am working with one of my clients and we need a Tomcat consultant w/VMS background can you refer me to someone... The position is in Costa Mesa, CA Suzie Jimenez Sr. IT Recruiter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISSG- Information Systems Support Group, LLC 300 E Magnolia Blvd. Ste 403 4th Fl. Burbank, CA 91502 818-846-4774 x116 818-846-9971 Fax 818-554-6825 Cell www.issgjobs.com www.issg.com - -- Rich Bowen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB57DtXP03+sx4yJMRAnZEAKCiGy0vu+dA3JU3fwEUMh2VY/snTgCgrsLj znNKzaaWMjSkyIlwyEPa0zc= =P6eo -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft warns Asian Gov'ts -- puts Linux users on notice
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Linux violates more than 228 patents, according to a recent report from a research group, Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said at the company's Asian Government Leaders Forum in Singapore. Someday, for all countries that are entering the WTO, somebody will come and look for money owing to the rights for that intellectual property. ref: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/biztech/11/19/tech.microsoft.linux3.reut/index. html We don't need to worry about managing Linux IP, but in my view, this is far from an isolated event. I particularly liked the bit about nobody ever knows who built the open-source stuff. Au contraire, I know exactly who built the open-source stuff, and I have no clue whatever who built the MicroSoft stuff. What kind of strange double-talk are they practicing? -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache Cookbook - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/apacheckbk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache swag
On Wed, 15 Jul 2004, David N. Welton wrote: Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the appropriate permissions having been obtained, my apache swag store is now open: http://www.cafeshops.com/meepzor/230676 a percentage of the profits are donated to the apache software foundation. this note is not a solicitation to buy stuff, but for sugegstions for additional items. i'm not a graphic designer, so the best i can do is rather primitive. Have you had a look at the results of any of these things, in person? I have some stuff of my own there ( http://www.cafeshops.com/tclwear ) but I haven't actually ordered any of it myself yet:-) The mug is quite nice. However, I will add that another (unrelated) mug that I ordered from there perhaps 6 months ago is much paler than it was initially. -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache Administrators Handbook - http://apacheadmin.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Volunteers wanted: Linuxworld Expo booth
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Sander Temme wrote: Hi Rich, On Jun 8, 2004, at 4:00 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: I'd love to be there, and I would, without a doubt, like to hang out at the ASF booth. However, alas, I can't make it unless someone at IDG sends me a ticket. I missed the CFP, and I am rather far away. :-( Well, hold those thoughts for the Boston LinuxWorld they're putting on in January. Perhaps you're in a better location for that. Or, I'm sure there will be other trade shows that the ASF might be represented. I'm planning to go to the Boston one, so I'll keep that in mind. :-) -- When the truth hides An eternity goes by On the fault line Between then and now - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Volunteers wanted: Linuxworld Expo booth
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Sander Temme wrote: On Jun 3, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Aaron Bannert wrote: Sander, thanks for organizing this. I think this will give the ASF some great visibility. (For the record, I've told Sander that I'm available for 10-2 on Wed/Thu (and Friday too I guess), and that I can probably join in on other slots that aren't filled by the time of the expo.) Thanks Aaron! Otherwise... thunderous silence. Is no one going to LinuxWorld? Has it become that lame? Is no one living in the Bay Area anymore? Aaron and I can not staff a booth between the two of us for three days. I need more people. Do we have any traction for this? HELP! I need to get something to the people at IDG by the end of today (Friday). I appreciate that this is short notice, and not everyone can make plans this far in advance, in this short a time frame. However, I would like to see some discussion and a show of support. Otherwise, I can't enter this obligation. I'd love to be there, and I would, without a doubt, like to hang out at the ASF booth. However, alas, I can't make it unless someone at IDG sends me a ticket. I missed the CFP, and I am rather far away. :-( -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's more than one way to eat a rhesus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Subversion 1.0
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote: -Original Message- From: Daniel L. Rall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2004 17:32 To: community@apache.org Subject: Subversion 1.0 Seeing as how there is already a fair amount of tools support available, and with the advent of 1.0 that should turn into a flood, what's the checklist of TODOs to handle before dumping CVS? Huge improvements over CVS asside, I'd much rather use tools built on top of Aapche software. The dogfood has arrived, time for chow. How about a bowl or two of free nibbles? Perhaps there could be a test SVN project for committers to taste? +1 I'd really appreciate that, so that I could have somewhere to screw things up in safety before screwing up a real repository. -- Pilgrim, how you journey on the road you chose To find out where the winds die and where the stories go --Pilgrim (Enya - A Day Without Rain) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Who decides who is 'worthy' for Planet Apache?
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: hardly Magellan ;), but not about the health of inter-relationships of Apache projects? Interesting. Sure, Gump is an automated feed, but is it so inappropriate? What was in that feed? I missed it. How would an automated feed be in any way like the rest of what's on ApachePlanet? So, now what? Do I just add it back, or what? Maybe Planet Apache needs some PMC control... Oh, God no. This does NOT need a PMC, or another mailing list, or to be committeed to death. FWIIW: My observation is that Planet Apache is (at best) going to be only a small percentage on Apache (even on OSS) topics, and it will be highly verbose, and with high noise content ... it is the nature of that sort of simple aggregation. [I'd like to see some form of categories utilized, so it could filter on stuff that said it was Apache related, but I don't see that as likely, if even technically available across tools/feeds.] I see Planet Apache (as it stands today) as a way to get a flavour of an author, who has some association w/ Apache, to see if I wish to add them to my own aggregator or not. As such, I see no harm in Jakarta Gump participating. Gump at least only ever talks about Apache stuff... Where's the fun in that? -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's more than one way to eat a rhesus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Long and/or non-Apache posts on planetapache.org, is that ok?
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I'm happy with the current situation, I don't mind seeing other people's long posts and/or posts which are not directly related to Apache, but I'd hate to offend people with mine, so please speak up if this is the case ;-) Blogs that don't offend people are *boring*. ;-) -- Who can say where the road goes Where the day flows Only time --Pilgrim (Enya - A Day Without Rain) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Undermining the Incubator
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: So, like I said, I clearly missed what you suggested as fixes to the problems that you perceive. While I'm sure that this discussion belongs on the incubator list, rather than here, I have a strong suspicion that you're going to respond with a note to the effect that you've already been through this and don't want to again. Okay Rich, I'll take you up on one. I don't feel like digging up the stuff I've noted on the JCP so lets talk about the incubator. First of all, thanks for this thorough resonse. Hopefully you don't mind me quoting that much publicly, if so I apologize. I feel this should take place on community@ as its a question on whether the incubator is serving the interests of the foundation and should exist at all. Seems kind of funny to discuss should this thing be here there. True. This does belong on community@ Problems: * Exposes the Foundation to undue legal issues by protecting projects PRIOR to their legal issues being sorted out. Perhaps I misunderstood something somewhere. This is certainly not the intention, and if that is happening, I agree that this is a Bad Thing. The intent, as I understand it, is not to extend this kind of protection until they have graduated. However, I must defer to the Board and the Lawyer Types on this point, as I am utterly ignorant of the actual legal aspects. * Has a high potential to create a dead project zone over time (but this I guess we'll see) as we give hosting and a fuzzy idea with many different opinions on when a project gets out or not. Yes, I can see that as a potential problem. We need to be vigilant to not become sourceforge. A firm policy about jetisoning projects that are not making active progress towards graduation might be in order. * Has a number of people not involved in the project sitting roost over the project. The folks that are sitting roost are interested in very specific things. While I agree that a member of the community may be better able to determine whether it is a vibrant and sustainable community, it seems very evident that it necessary for an external party to be involved in the verification of the code legality. Audits *must* be done by external, disinterested parties for them to be of any credibility. So it would seem that this is both good and necessary. Now, if the folks that are involved in this process are indeed sitting roost rather than mentoring or coaching, then I could see that this is a problem. Once again, this requires careful oversight and vigilance to ensure that this doesn't happen. But I don't see this as a condemnation of the process, so much as something that needs to be carefully monitored. * Creates confusion. Most people will believe the project is an Apache project at the point of incubation. Yes, agreed. And I can see this contributing to the perception of your first point regarding legal protection. * Hurts already healthy communities by putting them back into an alphaish state. I just don't see this. Can you elaborate on this? We're verifying that they have certain qualities, not claiming that they don't. Solution: * Disband the incubator. Not to give any false impressions, I should be very clear that I don't agree with you on this point, and, based on your following comments, I'm not sure you do either. Sounds like you want some pretty significant changes, but that you still want some process in place. Seeing as I don't give a damn what it's called, if you want to call it candidating, or something else, it's all the same to me. I think that a process needs to be in place, and it needs to address certain issues. What it gets called is of no consequence to me. Next, it's possible that I've misunderstood some details at some point, but it does not seem that your recommendations are so very far from what is in place. * A project must have at least sponsoring MEMBER willing to go join the project and help them adopt the voting rules, document legal issues by performing an audit Sounds reasonable. * A project's acceptance is governed by a PMC accepting it or the members voting to create a TLP. This should be ratified by the board who should have veto power. OK. * To propose the vote a project must prove that all CLAs are turned in and a license audit has been performed under the supervision of the said sponsoring member/members. That's already required, right? * prior to the project's acceptance into Apache it has no Apache status (legal/otherwise). I suppose we could give it a candidate logo. That's how it's supposed to be already, unless I grossly misunderstood. If legal protection is being extended to these projects, then, yes, I agree, that's a Bad Thing. That's why they're in the incubator - so that we can verify that it is safe to extend this umbrella. This: * Protects the foundation * Makes the responsible people responsible and less help from the peanut
Re: Single Location for syndicated Apache blogs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Brian Behlendorf wrote: But pulling back, perhaps a way to address Noel's concern is to have this aggregator only pull content from the RSS feeds that the blogger marks as somehow being Apache-related. RSS allows arbitrary metadata, right? Is there an easy way to mark a post in most blogger tools as Apache-related or something? That way someone can rant on and on about their favorite political subject in their blog, but meanwhile only their Apache-related posts get aggregated at the ASF's site. probably not if the rss feed url is scraped from elsewhere. however, if committers can specify particular feed urls, it might be workable -- at least for those people who categorise. for instance, to get the apache-related articles from my log, the feed url i http://Ken.Coar.Org/burrow/index.rss?category=Apachecomments=truewords=all that won't get you the articles about my neverending war with the grey death -- unless they also mention apache somewhere and i marked them as such. i'm pretty sure this is fairly common practice. I tend to think that those things add to the general charm of doing this sort of thing at all. And if I didn't get to read about the grey death, how would I get to laugh until coffee comes out of my nose? Hmm? - -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I have the dream, or did the dream have me? (Rush - Nocturne) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE//rYTXP03+sx4yJMRAqALAKDSUISo6VLfdIUvo/rOEClMsFAr0wCaAyMP YWcdxYYzQuw/thCBb3+KqH0= =o7VC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Single Location for syndicated Apache blogs
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Leo Simons wrote: Many other open source projects, including Debian, the Linux Kernel developers, and Mono, are aggregating the RSS feeds of their blogging contributors and putting them up on a web site. This is something that would be good for the ASF to do as well, as all we have now is the wiki page (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApachePeopleBlogs) I'm willing to find out if there is software being used so that we don't have to reinvent the wheel.I'm willing to maintain it and happy to have help if others are interested. Infrastructure folks, do you see any problems? Yeah, this sounds like a pretty nifty idea. Can Amphetadesk be run in infrastructure mode? -- Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the sky on laughter-silvered wings --High Flight (John Gillespie Magee) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Humor] robot.txt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: If you find this poetic, you will no doubt enjoy the Cyberiad (Stanislaw Lem). An excellent book. I remember specially the story where a psychiatric for robots is described, with a hypochondriac robot carrying a cart with spares. (BTW, when I first saw Ken in ApacheCON Europe 2000 this was the very image that came to my mind) :-P The poem about Love and Tensor Algebra was one of my favorites as a Math grad student. Come, let us hasten to a higher plane Where dyads tread the fairy fields of Venn, Their indices bedecked from one to n, Commingled in an endless Markov chain! Now *that* is poetry. http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~jbuhler/cyberiad.html - -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] As we trace our own few circles around the sun We get it backwards and our seven years go by like one Dog Years (Rush - Test for Echo - 1999) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/4wqvXP03+sx4yJMRAsnUAJ4pi07YiJfL/xF1PAIlE8O8U4vjkgCeP3mE wja1Ulks+/jnDag9f+SRkEo= =HxTA -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Pushing the idea of a guru (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the idea of a community. It's a single individual over the bazillion of people behind this or that project, and I wouldn't want it to be seen as a serious figure promoted by the foundation... Hmm. This is monumentally far from what I'm trying to do. A lot of people come to the conference with real-world problems that they want solutions to, or at least suggestions that they can pursue in their own time when they get back home. I'm certainly not trying to promote myself as a guru. I'm trying to do, in person, what I do on IRC for several hours almost every day - that is, to help people solve their problems. This is not self-promotion in any way, it's merely saying, hey, maybe I can help you solve your problems. If you've hung out on #apache at all, you'll know that I'm the first to admit when I don't know the answer to a question. But if I do know, I try to help folks out. This is what I contribute to the community, and it's what got me into working on the documentation in the first place. Likewise, folks like Joshua Slive donate ungodly amounts of time to answering questions on the user mailing lists. I don't get the sense that he does this in order that the world will recognize him and adulate him as a hero. (Joshua, please correct me if I'm wrong ;-) If a different word is preferred, that's fine with me. I'm not entirely sure how serious you're being in your remarks, but I surely don't want to convey the wrong image by naming the event. I don't suppose I gave it much thought, but shamelessly stole it from events conducted at the O'Reilly conference where folks like Larry Wall and Guido van Rossum very humbly helped folks sort out their difficulties and solve their practical problems. -- And everyone said, If we only live, We too will go to sea in a Sieve - To the hills of the Chankly Bore! (The Jumblies, by Edward Lear) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: There will be a signup sheet at the conference, but I'd like to get an idea now whether we're going to have enough participants to make this Please open one in CVS - ideally with days + timeslots which match the space between session slots/other -freetime- periods. OK, I added on in cvs, and then read your note. So it's your preference that these not be going on during sessions? That leaves very little time - just the lunch and coffee breaks. My thought hat been to have these be going on while sessions were going on for the few folks that were not going to be in a talk at the time. Please let me know if folks think that this is a problem. -- Who can say where the road goes Where the day flows Only time --Pilgrim (Enya - A Day Without Rain) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apachecon: The Guru Is In
We tried to do this last year, but nobody really took charge of it, so it didn't happen. But this year, we're going to make it happen. I'd like to have a The Guru Is In table in the lounge/lab area, and have it manned throughout the conference. Ideally, we'd like people from as broad a range of projects as possible, so that I don't have to answer questions about Tomcat and POI and various other things that I'm utterly ignorant of. There will be a signup sheet at the conference, but I'd like to get an idea now whether we're going to have enough participants to make this work. -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache Cookbook - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/apacheckbk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: I have often thought it would be very very nice if the source files could reference the license, and tell you where to get it, rather than including the full text. This hugely increases the size of everything, and provides no real benefit. If each file could reference a file (included in the distribution) and a URL, surely that would be sufficient? What is the rationale for the full text in each and every file? Just for the record, my quick unscientific poll shows that the license consumes approximately 6.7M in the httpd-2.0 distribution. But I suspect that compresses well! ;-) Scientific method: LICENSE is 22998 bytes. The text of the license appears in 293 files, including the LICENSE file itself. -- Who can say where the road goes Where the day flows Only time --Pilgrim (Enya - A Day Without Rain) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Erik Abele wrote: Huh, are you sure? wget apache.org/LICENSE 100%[] 2,827 ll -rw-rw-r--1 erik erik 2827 Sep 22 2001 LICENSE 2827 bytes * 293 files = 828311 bytes / 1024 = 808,9kb ! The 22kb LICENSE you mentioned is the full-blown text (located at httpd-2.0/LICENSE) which includes all subcomponents' licenses but the source files only include the *Apache Software License* not that of the other comps... so we get 808,9kb for the source files plus the license (22998/1024=22,5kb) itself: ~ 831,4kb hehe, really cute compared to 6,7M :- That's not nearly as fun! -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReefKnot - http://www.reefknot.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Just in case it would be of help to any other project(s), here is a link to a message I posted earlier tonight to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message mentions the automated process by which I updated every Java file in James to have the full ASF License instead of a short form of the license that had previously referred to the full license contained in the package. The sed script attached to that message might be of some use, although it would need minor text changes depending upon the target project. I have often thought it would be very very nice if the source files could reference the license, and tell you where to get it, rather than including the full text. This hugely increases the size of everything, and provides no real benefit. If each file could reference a file (included in the distribution) and a URL, surely that would be sufficient? What is the rationale for the full text in each and every file? -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author - Apache Administrator's Guide http://www.ApacheAdmin.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weblogs and Obstructionism WAS: Re: weblogs on apache.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: [Moved from infrastructure@ at DWvG's suggestion] I continue to feel a bit disenchanted with the group of folks I don't see need for this, -1 for various efforts, where non-participation would be the most appropriate (IMHO) avenue of protest. Excuse me, Andrew, but you *are* aware that except for a technical issue a -1 is non-binding, right? People are just casting their votes for or against. What is the problem with someone saying that they disagree with your view? Why is that obstructionist? This is a Community. If the majority disagrees with you, is that obstructionist? You did a good job of getting a wiki going here, so you can hardly argue that everyone is trying to preserve the status quo. But the issue of blogs and personal pages has come up multiple times in the few months that I have had Committer status, so I am sure that you have seen the arguments before now. For those of us that are not on infrastructure@, what's the summary thus far? Is it just the obvious which can be gleaned from the above, ie Andy proposed blog software installed on an apache.org machine and someone - -1'ed it, or was it merely a page linking to blogs? Just curious what we're talking about here. - -- Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the sky on laughter-silvered wings --High Flight (John Gillespie Magee) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE+MyJuXP03+sx4yJMRAnvdAJ91TzBbPojqAg8JVfADq5FHRcQBAQCg9oij 9jLkqKEgZqvLTOScuqS6A0g= =kcDX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: python foo
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Greg Stein wrote: $matrix = [ [1, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6], [7, 8, 9] ]; print $matrix-[1][2]; Very cool. Man, I wish that woulda worked when I tried it. A little more punctuation, but, then, you'd expect that from Perl. You must have a very lame Perl hacker at your disposal. ;-) This was sometime around 1996, I believe. Perl 4, if I recall. Is it possible that it wasn't so easy in Perl 4? Ah. No. Not possible in Perl 4. That was back in the dark ages! ;-) I guess I did not realize that Python was already around back then. References (aka pointers, only not) appeared in Perl 5, and are what makes this syntax posibble. -- Nothing is perfekt. Certainly not me. Success to failure. Just a matter of degrees.
Re: python foo (was: email notification done...sorta)
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Greg Stein wrote:
array = [ [1, 2, 3],
... [4, 5, 6],
... [7, 8, 9] ]
print array[1][2]
6
sparse = { (1,2): 6, (2,1): 8 }
sparse[1,2]
6
(and don't ask me about the time I tried to do a hash of hashes of hashes in
Perl... even with Perl hacker help, I gave up; Perl just wouldn't do it)
Oh, come on. I do hashes of hashes of hashes frequently in Perl. And
hashes of hashes of arrays of hashes of arrays. And ... well, other
permutations.
And the syntax for a multi-dimensional array is almost
indistinguishable from the example you gave in Python.
$matrix = [
[1, 2, 3],
[4, 5, 6],
[7, 8, 9] ];
print $matrix-[1][2];
A little more punctuation, but, then, you'd expect that from Perl.
You must have a very lame Perl hacker at your disposal. ;-)
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Re: Wiki RSS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: How good a PERL coder are you? I'm *no* Perl coder whatsoever. I have spent many many painful hours working on the UseModWiki code. It seems to be very good code, but it is large and complex. I think that if I had a very specific idea of what I was trying to accomplish, I might be able to make things happen. - -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author - Apache Administrator's Guide http://www.ApacheAdmin.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE+EjW4XP03+sx4yJMRAsBqAKDg8fnPig2Y4fxYz9BUKcD77pvBfwCg4IGo eio28cPedEVqYYuo7McoD+U= =b9Av -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Hackathon
Having not been to a hackathon before, I'm not sure how this all works, but I wanted to mention some of the things that I was hoping to work on there, so that people can be thinking about it. Likewise, it would be nice to know what other people intend to be working on. Mads Toftum and I have discussed working on the SSL documentation, which are not correct in the 2.0 docs, having just been copied over from 1.3. Additionally, we were going to work on the mod_rewrite docs a little, in an attempt to aim them at a slightly less savvy audience - perhaps splitting to doc into something aimed at the beginner, and another doc with the gory details. Finally, now that Auth is changing so much in the near future, I hope to work on the auth docs, and the auth tutorial I have a number of other smaller items on my to do list, like trying to back-port some of the 2.0 docs goodness to the 1.3 docs. I'd be very interested to hear what other folks will be working on. -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Openness
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read this mail list thru a web archive? [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable [ ] 0 don't know/don't care [X] -1 no, let's keep it private - o - VOTE 2: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to fully subscribe to this mail list? [ ] +1 yes, let's open it to everyone [ ] 0 don't know/don't care [X] -1 no, let's keep it for committers only After all, that was the charter of the list to begin with. If you want something different, try Yahoo Groups. -- Rich Bowen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.rcbowen.com/
