Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, J . A . Magallon wrote:
> C99 is really a secure and powerfull addition. Some of this features
> are already present in some way in actual gcc or other C compilers,
> but C99 standarises them. This is what I find more usefull, extracted
> from
> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.0/c99status.html:
C99 support is better in gcc mainline (3.1). AFAIK, variable length arrays
are broken for 3.0.x.
> - restricted pointers that can not be null nor serve to walk arrays. Someone
> can think this is stupid, but how many times did you a ptr++ that pointed
> to a standalone struct ? It also can help to generate better code
> (http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/restrict.html)
Or see in 6.7.3.1 in the Standard. Basically, if you have two restricted
pointers a and b, you tell the compiler that a won't reference the object
pointed by b, and vice versa. memcpy() for example shall now be declared
as:
void *memcpy(void * restrict dest, const void * restrict src, size_t n);
> - mix of code and declarations: thay are no more forced to be at the beginning
> of a block (this also implies changes in the calling conventions, stack for
> local variables is not reserved and initialized at once, but for each variable or
> group of contiguous variables).
But in some cases, the rationale in C99 differs with the one for C++. I am
thinking about some weird code and declarations with labels. I don't have
an example on top of my head but I seem to remember having seen that in
the C99 rationale (n897).
> - This helps for loop and data locality (block scopes):
> for (int i=0; ...)
> case (char c=getchar())
> {
> }
Even if you replace case with a switch, that won't work. I believe the
following to be valid in C++ but not in C99
while (T t = x)
which is equivalent to
label:
{
T t = x;
if (t) {
goto label;
}
}
> - the above also makes possible non-constant length arrays (forget 50% of your
> mallocs and allocas):
> int a = 2;
> double b[a];
> double c[argc];
That doesn't work for file scope arrays for example but I am sure you
meant it implicitly ;-)
[6.7.5.2, #2]
[#2] Only ordinary identifiers (as defined in 6.2.3) with
both block scope or function prototype scope and no linkage
shall have a variably modified type. If an identifier is
declared to be an object with static storage duration, it
shall not have a variable length array type.
> - designated initializers
> struct complex { double a,b } = { b:7, a:3 ];
That doesn't work like that, this is a GCC notation I think.
struct a_struct { double a, b; } x = { .b = 3.0, .a = 2.0 };
[You can initialize the struct in whatever order you want]
int my_array[10] = { 0, 1, 2, [8] = 7 };
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] php-sybase-4.0.4pl1-6mdk
So sprach »Lenny Cartier« am 2001-07-24 um 00:45:32 +0200 : > [Contrib-RPM] > > --=-=-= > Name: php-sybase Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 4.0.4pl1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 6mdk Build Date: Mon Jul 23 23:14:22 2001 Is this right? Version 4.0.4pl1? Uhm? How about updating to 4.0.6? Not that I use sybase, though Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 1 day 7 hours 1 minute
Re: [Cooker] Reprint of business suggestions for Mandrake *It's a good Idea*
Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > > This has motivated us to explore creating our own Mandrake subset; > this would give us CDs that only contain the software we use and let > us quickly install a new machine. What would be very cool is if there > was some means to quickly build a profile, proof it, and then run the > mkcds to create a custom subset, and then later, when a new Mandrake > appears, we just unpack the CDs, plop in our profile, and in one > command, our standard install package is updated. This already exists - see troels.rsync3.pl on my web page. As supplied, it downloads a Mandrake or cooker tree, leaving out everything non-English, and is easily further customised by adding to rsync_exclude to form a profile which will download only such a subset as you propose. The profile-building is today an iterative manual process, specify, download, install with hd.img, respecify, etc., adding excludes for what you do NOT want downloaded. -- Ron. [au] Kindly note my new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and new web site: http://www.ains.net.au/~ronst/
Re: [Cooker] Reprint of business suggestions for Mandrake *It's a good Idea*
Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > > For example, "developer" could present a short multi-select list of > programming languages; instead of installing over a dozen languages > hardly anyone even knows exist (hands up all prolog programmers! All > those who can code Haskel from the command line?). My hand is up for Prolog, but not Haskell (yet?). -- Ron. [au] Kindly note my new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and new web site: http://www.ains.net.au/~ronst/
Re: kernel-2.4.6-4mdk - Unresolved Symbols (was: Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.6-4mdk make error)
> "duclos" == DUCLOS Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: duclos> Hello, duclos> This is a solution. Others solutions ? duclos> Bye Thanks for the fix. Sorry for the delay. The problem was fixed in ac6 : Later, Juan. duclos> Le Samedi 14 Juillet 2001 20:09, vous avez écrit : >> There are unresolved symbols in kernel-2.4.6-4mdk as well: >> >> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in >> /lib/modules/2.4.6-4mdk/kernel/drivers/net/dl2k.o.gz >> >> Alexander Skwar duclos> -- duclos> Ne coupez pas la session tout de suite... duclos> effleurez encore une fois mon clavier de vos doigts sensuels... duclos> -- Pierre Ficheux duclos> Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586 duclos> 2x PIII800EB + 512 Mo -- Linux 2.4.6-21mdksmp i686 - ac2 - Mosix - kgdb duclos> Uptime : 5:52pm up 4:04, 2 users, load average: 2.82, 2.12, 1.11 -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] crossfire-client-1.0.0-3mdk
> - Seems CVS fixes don't work well, disable them for now > - Please blame Blue Lizard for this release :) > > Been waiting...:P
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
On 20010723 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>
>> People progamming in C should know how much of C++ features are 'backported' to
>> C99.
>
>I would be interested to know more on that backport stuff you're talking
>about. Do you have a link?
>
C99 is really a secure and powerfull addition. Some of this features are already
present in some way in actual gcc or other C compilers, but C99 standarises them.
This is what I find more usefull, extracted from
http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.0/c99status.html:
- restricted pointers that can not be null nor serve to walk arrays. Someone
can think this is stupid, but how many times did you a ptr++ that pointed
to a standalone struct ? It also can help to generate better code
(http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/restrict.html)
- mix of code and declarations: thay are no more forced to be at the beginning
of a block (this also implies changes in the calling conventions, stack for
local variables is not reserved and initialized at once, but for each variable or
group of contiguous variables).
- This helps for loop and data locality (block scopes):
for (int i=0; ...)
case (char c=getchar())
{
}
- the above also makes possible non-constant length arrays (forget 50% of your
mallocs and allocas):
int a = 2;
double b[a];
double c[argc];
and variable length arrays in params with checks
void f(int a, int h[a]) // instead of int h[] or int* h
{
for (int i=0; imailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Cooker) for i586
Linux werewolf 2.4.7 #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 01:55:36 CEST 2001 i686
Re: [Cooker] NFS install
"kk1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But the first thing that DrakX tries to do is to to insert the isapnp > module and this deactivates the ethernet card and breaks the network > connection. this is strange, DrakX doesn't try to insmod' isa-pnp... any more precise info?
[Cooker] NFS install
Hi, I tried to install Cooker through NFS since I don't have enough memory to use FTP. Well, the first stage didn't detect automatically my 3C905 card but let me select it and found Cooker succesfully the remote NFS partition. But the first thing that DrakX tries to do is to to insert the isapnp module and this deactivates the ethernet card and breaks the network connection. Is there a way to restart the process? =-= kk1 _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
Re: [Cooker] rpm rpm broken
> "gary" == Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "J" == Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: J> rpm --rebuilddb J> worked for me, but I am using the C locales. gary> Since my rpm was in segfault mode, I am installing things using gary> the rpm2cpio trick, but still, after installing rpm*15mdk.rpm, db3 gary> and popt, if I try to use "rpm --rebuilddb" I get a segfault, gary> but I can use my older 8.0b3 edition "rpm.old --rebuilddb". gary> Is there a specific order to installing the needed packages? If I gary> install via rpm2cpio, I won't get any pre/post install scripts, so is gary> there something else I can do manually to get RPM working again? In other machine I had to copy /lib/libbd-3.1* from a working machine. I think that this is not needed anymore. Later, Juan. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
> "geoffrey" == Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi geoffrey> Code produced for C++ is like this: geoffrey> egcs is not compatible with gcc 2.95.x. gcc 2.95.x is not compile with geoffrey> gcc 2.96. gcc 2.96 is not compatible with gcc 3.0. geoffrey> End of story. We have distributed egcs and gcc 2.95 before, we had geoffrey> incompatibility, why are you worrying so much? And any other steps in between are also incompatible. But this is only c++ code, and there is _way_ more c code that c++ code in any distribution that I can think of. Here the problem appears only with closed source (i.e. you need some linker/soname gymnastics to get netscape built with gcc-X run in a machine with gcc-Y, Y!=X.) But you can reduce that problems with libstdc*compat (that all distributions that I have looked at have solved). Your problem only appears if you want to use a closed library compiled with an older compiler with your new compiler, that will fails :( Later, Juan. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
[Cooker] Re: Freeswan in Mandrake 8.0
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 12:48:00PM +0200, Manuel Durán Aguete wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm building a VPN with mdk8.0 and freeswan. When I start ipsec > the tunnel between two gateways is stablished, but I can't ping from one > subnet to another. > > Using tcpdump on ethernet I can see the encripted packets,but > nothing pass to ipsec interface. > > Any Idea ? Yes. First, this is a list for *Cooker* issues, not MDK8.0 issues. Please take your question to Mandrake Expert. Second. The kernel in MDK8.0 is broken with respect to FreeSWAN. I reported this a while ago when somebody else was asking if there would be a kernel update in MDK8.0. If there is no update yet, use the Cooker kernel. b. -- Brian J. Murrell
[Cooker] Re: Re: Brand new cooker, multithreaded gnome apps still hanging!!
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:26:44AM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > So, could you try installing another environment (sawfish, for example) > and see if you can duplicate you problem ? When you say "sawfish" as an "environment" I am not sure what you mean. I do run sawfish as my window manager with Gnome, but I suspect you mean something else. > Are you on a SMP system ? Nope. > Do you have esound running correctly on your computer ? Yup. Hear sound from it all the time. > Have you tried with a new account to see if some old preferences are > causing this problem ? When I originally started this thread "Brand new cooker, multithreaded gnome apps still hanging" I was on a completely new installation, from fresh start. I suspected as you do too, that there was some old cruft lying around causing this problem. That can't be the case as no cruft was carried over from the old system. b. -- Brian J. Murrell
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] Eterm-O.8.10-16mdk
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > Instead of modifying these packages, could the utempter package be > modified to let the lib*-devel package provide utempter-devel? > > Shall I do it? That's OK for tv, the package maintainer. Provides: utempter-devel for the lib*-devel package
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
JoAnne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 23 July 2001 09:20 am, you wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Cottenceau) writes: > > > Blue Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > OT: on the subject of missing developers, when is warly back? I > > > > thought that french people no longer made it a habit to take 2 month > > > > vacations... > > > > > > I'll not answer on xenophobic-style stuff. > > > > > > Warly's back from vacations (like me,pixel,damien) from last wednesday. > > > > And by the way, I'll request immediate expulsion from cooker ML if I see > > further comportment. > > > > Thank you, > > H so the ultimate chastisement will be used if someone, even humoursly, > disparages a persons CofO? > But not gender bias? Btw, for a more serious comparison, you can compare the number of smileys in the two statements, you can also think if the statement is going positive or negative, and you can finally also think if a precise asset is made; in my mail, I don't see anything else than "nice", which is not very rough after all... except probably in the US where avoiding any "bias" by all mean to become 100% politically correct is so much important that anything else (including using brain) is stricly prohibited. > > > Like always, the graphics is made by our nice female graphist :-). > > > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ > > JoAnne -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
JoAnne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 23 July 2001 09:20 am, you wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Cottenceau) writes: > > > Blue Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > OT: on the subject of missing developers, when is warly back? I > > > > thought that french people no longer made it a habit to take 2 month > > > > vacations... > > > > > > I'll not answer on xenophobic-style stuff. > > > > > > Warly's back from vacations (like me,pixel,damien) from last wednesday. > > > > And by the way, I'll request immediate expulsion from cooker ML if I see > > further comportment. > > > > Thank you, > > H so the ultimate chastisement will be used if someone, even humoursly, > disparages a persons CofO? > But not gender bias? Yes, because in France men are superior to women. Law states that one man equals roughly to 5 women. Wow. > > > Like always, the graphics is made by our nice female graphist :-). > > > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ > > JoAnne -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] urpmi: Missing information/Hiding *WAY* too much - what's it doing?
So sprach »François Pons« am 2001-07-23 um 10:12:25 +0200 : > You should have the same with rpm -Uvh ... Uhm, no. rpm prints the name of the current package. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 17 hours 31 minutes
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] Eterm-O.8.10-16mdk
> > >--=-=-= > >* Mon Jul 23 2001 Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> O.8.10-16mdk > >- BuildRequires: s/utempter-devel/libutempter0-devel >- s/Copyright/License > W8! there's more: AfterStep-APPS-2000309-6mdk.src.rpm:utempter-devel is needed by AfterStep-APPS-2000309-6mdk kterm-6.2.0-15mdk.src.rpm utempter-devel is needed by kterm-6.2.0-15mdk rxvt-2.7.6-3mdk.src.rpm: utempter-devel is needed by rxvt-2.7.6-3mdk XFree86-compat-3.3.6-22mdk.src.rpm:utempter-devel is needed by XFree86-compat-3.3.6-22mdk Instead of modifying these packages, could the utempter package be modified to let the lib*-devel package provide utempter-devel? Shall I do it? Stefan
[Cooker] Failed install 22-Jul-01
/ChangeLog/1.523/Thu Jul 19 17:03:46 2001// Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po: missing Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po: missing Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_GB.po: missing An error occurred - no hdlists found. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586, kernel 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr, XFree86 4.0.3, patch level 11mdk, KDE: 2.1.2, Qt: 2.3.1. Uptime 2 hours 40 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
On Monday 23 July 2001 09:20 am, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Cottenceau) writes: > > Blue Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > OT: on the subject of missing developers, when is warly back? I > > > thought that french people no longer made it a habit to take 2 month > > > vacations... > > > > I'll not answer on xenophobic-style stuff. > > > > Warly's back from vacations (like me,pixel,damien) from last wednesday. > > And by the way, I'll request immediate expulsion from cooker ML if I see > further comportment. > > Thank you, H so the ultimate chastisement will be used if someone, even humoursly, disparages a persons CofO? But not gender bias? Like always, the graphics is made by our nice female graphist :-). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ JoAnne -- Founding member of AILLING **Acronymically Impaired Linux Lovers Increasing Needed Grumbling**
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake Linux Community Newsletter - Issue #7
On 23 Jul 2001 16:35:38 +0200 Yves Duret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?rnum=4&selm=Pine.LNX.4.10.10107162206370.868-10%40hal.home.unet > > > > There's not yet an rpm. > > Is someone working on it? > > If not, i would want to make one and send it to /incoming > > working on it. > but feel free to do it if you are faster than me.. > yves I don't think I'm faster :) It might take me 2 or 3 hours. And tomorrow i would have the time for it -- Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Cottenceau) writes: > Blue Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [...] > > > OT: on the subject of missing developers, when is warly back? I thought > > that french people no longer made it a habit to take 2 month vacations... > > I'll not answer on xenophobic-style stuff. > > Warly's back from vacations (like me,pixel,damien) from last wednesday. And by the way, I'll request immediate expulsion from cooker ML if I see further comportment. Thank you, -- dam's
Re: [Cooker] Xwindows install failure solved?
"L.A.Lawless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > As I have a slow modem connection I can't download the entire cooker, With "rsync", I think this is feasible to maintain an up-to-date Cooker tree if you run rsync in background when you check your mail or browse the web :-). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake Linux Community Newsletter - Issue #7
Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > >http://groups.google.com/groups?rnum=4&selm=Pine.LNX.4.10.10107162206370.868-10%40hal.home.unet > > There's not yet an rpm. > Is someone working on it? > If not, i would want to make one and send it to /incoming working on it. but feel free to do it if you are faster than me.. yves -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] "les rêves, c'est pas linéaire" (c) joHn
Re: [Cooker] Xwindows install failure solved?
On Thursday 19 July 2001 6:12 pm, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) writes: > > Ok, don't do the test it could still fails, we have found > > something that can cause freeze on some machine. This could be > > the case here. > > We are (maybe) fixing the problem, which seems to come with buggy > > pci interface that cause freeze. > > > > Thanks for your investigation. > > You can use DrakX build 1.523 or above only. > > François. As I have a slow modem connection I can't download the entire cooker, but I did try to use XFDrak today. Result, total freeze. So, when will there be a fix for the s3V 86c325 card in XFDrake, a patch that can be loaded during install, or a MDK Freq CD ssued that doesn't have this bug? -- Anna
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Installer
"Digital Wokan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know who redesigned the installer, but I like the embossed penguin, > it's cute without being overly cartoonish. Like always, the graphics is made by our nice female graphist :-). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
Blue Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had really been itching to quote chmouel on that, thanks. Where is he > anyway? I have not seen or heard of him in a while...pink slipped? > management now? :P (of course noone's stupid enough to make him exec) Vacations :-(. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] links-0.96-3mdk
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach »Pixel« am 2001-07-23 um 14:49:10 +0200 : > > what is libjs? > > A JavaScript library, I suppose. Yes, and I suppose the newest version is 0.2.4, which is dated back from 1 or 2 yrs ago... !? Abel
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
"J . A . Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I also would love gcc-3.0 as the standard compiler. I use C++ and it is the best > C++ compiler in gcc history. And support for the new ISO C99 is marvelous, also. You can already it... as long as it's in the contrib... you can. > People progamming in C should know how much of C++ features are 'backported' to > C99. I would be interested to know more on that backport stuff you're talking about. Do you have a link? -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Why gcc 2.96 and not 3.0?
Xavier Bertou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 09:19:10PM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > egcs is not compatible with gcc 2.95.x. gcc 2.95.x is not compile with > > gcc 2.96. gcc 2.96 is not compatible with gcc 3.0. > > > > End of story. We have distributed egcs and gcc 2.95 before, we had > > incompatibility, why are you worrying so much? > > I'm not worrying. It's just that for LM 8.1, it would be nice to have > gcc 3.0... Apparently, it's not sure at all that we'll ship 8.1 (sept/oct) with default compiler set as gcc-3.0, considering the current status/stability of the compiler. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] GConf package
Dans l'article <20010721223651.A20376@titi>, "Christophe Fergeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > The current GConf package (I checked GConf-1.0.1-5mdk.i586.rpm) has 2 > problems : there should be a /etc/gconf/1/path file (as in the RedHad > package) and a /etc/gconf/1/gconf.xml.defaults with 755 permissions (see > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gconf-list/2001-July/msg00026.html). > Because of these two problems, applications can't install global schemas > file (to specify systemwide default options). Fixed in GConf-1.0.1-6mdk Thanks for the report.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] links-0.96-3mdk
So sprach »Pixel« am 2001-07-23 um 14:49:10 +0200 : > what is libjs? A JavaScript library, I suppose. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 15 hours 17 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Freeswan in Mandrake 8.0
El 23 Jul 2001, Sylvain de Tilly escribió: > > > Do you really have leftsubnet=something and rightsubnet=otherthing in > your ipsec.conf ??? > Yes, looking the log the tunnel is established. Bu when I ping a host in another subnet the ping goes, but it not comes. The same occurs when I ping from the other subnet. 192.168.0.0/24 <-->192.168.0.1 | 195.55.36.250 <>195.55.36.1 ^eth0: I see encripted packet ^ipsec0: I see nothing. ^eth1: I see nothing. -> 195.55.38.1 <-->195.55.38.1 <---> 195.55.38.250|192.168.1.1 --->192.168.1.0/24 This is my conf: config setup interfaces="ipsec0=eth0" klipsdebug=none plutodebug=none plutoload=%search plutostart=%search conn leftgw-rigthgw left=195.55.36.250 leftsubnet=192.168.0.0/24 leftnexthop=195.55.36.1 right=195.55.38.250 rightsubnet=192.168.1.0/24 rightnexthop=195.55.38.1 keyingtries=0 auth=ah authby=rsasig rightrsasigkey=0x0 leftrsasigkey=0x0 Regards.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] links-0.96-3mdk
Blue Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Name: linksRelocations: (not relocateable) > > Version : 0.96 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > > libjs support patch in there? what is libjs?
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] links-0.96-3mdk
Thierry Vignaud wrote: > --=-=-= > Name: linksRelocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.96 Vendor: MandrakeSoft libjs support patch in there?
RE: [Cooker] urpmi: Missing information/Hiding *WAY* too much - what's it doing?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] urpmi: Missing information/Hiding *WAY* too > much - what's it doing? > > > So sprach »François Pons« am 2001-07-23 um 10:12:25 +0200 : > > You should have the same with rpm -Uvh ... > > Nope, rpm -Uvh prints more useful information > > [root@teich RPMS-COOKER]# rpm -Uvh yudit-2.4-1mdk.i586.rpm > Preparing...### > [100%] >1:yudit ### >[100%] > You copied the final output. The important is, rpm shows real progress bar (that is filled left to right) and percentage is changing.
[Cooker] FreeS/WAN and Mandrake 8.0
Hi all I've been trying to get FreeS/WAN up and running on Mandrake 8.0 for a few weeks and have recently been getting a few (disturbing) replies to some e-mails I've sent saying that FreeS/WAN doesn't work with 8.0. One FreeS/WAN user said that the most recent Cooker Kernel worked along with freeswan-1.91-1mdk.rpm but that too didn't work for me. Anyone any ideas? I'm new to the whole Cooker scene but I'm presuming that if I rpm the kernel and FreeS/WAN Cooker packages, that's it. I wan looking through some of the Cooker achives and came across a mail from Brian J. Murrell stating that "Sometime after kernel-2.4.1-22mdk ipsec broke". Again, I'm assuming that he's refering to FreeS/WAN. Anyway guys, thanks for your time and if you have any feedback let me know. Sincerely Jay = There are three types of people in this world... those who can count and those who can't! Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [Cooker] Reprint of business suggestions for Mandrake *It's a good Idea*
Well it didnt go thru last time, in response to GLM's comment.: Well, Canada Boy, there used to be a prompt for "workstation" "development" or "server". Dont know where that went. But I think to get the most greenbacks from business', go with the original plan. That is, main distro as we have it now (prosuites and crap like that included),then stemming from that (doesnt mdk have a firewall/security mini distro already that does this?) mail server, backup solution, network/security stuff (installation could let choose btwn. router,firewall,gateway,whatever else), webfront/enterprise solution (pg,mysql,apache,perl,php, allthatstuff). Just because a business really will choose a one cd firewall over just selecting that as the purpose of install. And we could not waste so much space with unneccessary crap this way (like when the drakx tools for users and whatever crap came out, the workstation/server/devel choice disappeared, and every installation was forced to put in all sorts of crap for these tools that were required on ea. install, making it hard to get install less than 120MB). The currently mdk distro as it is, 80 and cooker, would be correctly labeled as mandrake-workstation.80 or mandrake-workstation.cooker. Whereas the others would be mandrake-mail-solutions.80, mandrake-backup-solution.80, mandrake-webfront.80, and the like. WHAT HAS THE ERGONOMICS/PR/CORPORATE RELATIONS CREW TO SAY? Could we poll those on that mandrake business cases place (the people that use mandrake in some form at their business') to see what their business' would be most likely to like or buy or whatever? Go door to door at local business' over 500 employees and ask their IT crews or whomever what they would choose (and thus recommend to their superiors) :P. We need some actual business owners to give their opinions here as well is mepoint. I will go to the eshare hq (strangely close to me) and ask. But the original purpose of this message was to state that instead of reviving the old choice of purpose at install, to call this what it is, workstation, and sell business' stuff for other purposes, designed to fit their needs. That is what that other guy's point was at the beginning. That would also help staying SMALL when SMALL is what's needed most. This would work. Now there is one thing... What to do when people ask 'well what about the packages in mandrake under server and development?' I DONT KNOW. -Blue, off to try and figure out perl...
Re: [Cooker] urpmi: Missing information/Hiding *WAY* too much - what's it doing?
So sprach »François Pons« am 2001-07-23 um 10:12:25 +0200 : > You should have the same with rpm -Uvh ... Nope, rpm -Uvh prints more useful information [root@teich RPMS-COOKER]# rpm -Uvh yudit-2.4-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:yudit ### [100%] Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 12 hours 53 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Network problem when running self-compiled kernel.org kernels
Hi Sami I'm not sure if this is related but I tried a kernel (2.4.6) last week from kernel.org and my networking just disappeared! In the end it didn't have a pcmcia module - ??? Luckily I had an old image that was bootable and could get my networking up and running again. I've used kernels from kernel.org before and never had any problems. Jay = There are three types of people in this world... those who can count and those who can't! Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Re: [Cooker] Reprint of business suggestions for Mandrake *It's agood Idea*
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Yep, me too. That's how I feel! And then there should be some kinda > tool that let's you select that you now need a backup server. Debians > task system is VERY well suited for this. There, you'd select > 'task-backup-server', and this task would then suggest the packages that > are suited for this. Debian's .deb seems to be better suited for this > anyway. It's not hard to do using RPM.. just a bunch of virtual RPM anyway. Abel
[Cooker] Freeswan in Mandrake 8.0
Hi, I'm building a VPN with mdk8.0 and freeswan. When I start ipsec the tunnel between two gateways is stablished, but I can't ping from one subnet to another. Using tcpdump on ethernet I can see the encripted packets,but nothing pass to ipsec interface. Any Idea ? Regards.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] bonobo-conf-0.8-1mdk
Frederic Crozat wrote: > --=-=-= > Name: bonobo-conf Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 0.8 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > - Release 0.8 I see where this is going. (let us evolve to a new evolution)
[Cooker] Re: Mandrake Linux Community Newsletter - Issue #7
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 01:37:27 +0200 (CEST) Mandrake Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spotlight on the Clara OCR Free Software project > > One of the many exciting Free Software projects that MandrakeSoft > sponsors is Clara OCR. Clara OCR is a free (GPL) Optical > Character Recognition program for Linux/Unix. It features a powerful GUI > and a web interface for cooperative digitalization of printed > materials. Clara OCR development started in 1999 and is approaching > production level. > > Everyone is invited to test Clara OCR and participate in the project. To > learn more about Clara OCR, please visit the website at > http://www.claraocr.org/ where you can view screenshots, read the FAQ > and online tutorial. The project's announcement can be read > at: > http://groups.google.com/groups?rnum=4&selm=Pine.LNX.4.10.10107162206370.868-10%40hal.home.unet There's not yet an rpm. Is someone working on it? If not, i would want to make one and send it to /incoming -- Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Cooker] urpmi: Missing information/Hiding *WAY* too much - what's it doing?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of François Pons > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 12:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] urpmi: Missing information/Hiding *WAY* too > much - what's it doing? > > > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So sprach »Stefan Siegel« am 2001-07-23 um 00:23:36 +0200 : > > > ls -l /var/log/urpmi* > > > > I know - it contains the same useless output that urpmi prints on the > > console: > > This is a problem of invoking rpm so, I'll take a look. > > You should have the same with rpm -Uvh ... > What do you mean "the same"? rpm output is much better - it shows rpm which is installed, running progress bar and running percentage. The format of rpm output really has changed, and now it places more demand on terminal capability ... -andrej
Re: [Cooker] urpmi: Missing information/Hiding *WAY* too much - what's it doing?
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So sprach »Stefan Siegel« am 2001-07-23 um 00:23:36 +0200 : > > ls -l /var/log/urpmi* > > I know - it contains the same useless output that urpmi prints on the > console: This is a problem of invoking rpm so, I'll take a look. You should have the same with rpm -Uvh ... François.
