[Cooker] mdk 9.1 beta - sound beep's

[e=mc^2]

Hi 

i have a problem with mdk 9.1 beta 3 that does not fit in any bugzilla category
and there seems be no other way to send info to the cooker developers. maybe you
can give me a infos where the problem is. 

i installed 9.1 beta 3 with the upgrade function of the cd's. 

when i play music or videos (xine or mplayer) i get beeps in uneven intervals
and in some cases the movie stops (without any debug info from xine or mplayer).

usually (mdk 9.0) i got a a "error msg" that there was a video jump or audio
jump and some bytes had to be droped or insertet but now i get nothing. 


using 
epox KHA8*
AMD 1600 XP
sb pci 128 

ciao markus 


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Re: [Cooker] OpenBSD (was: Linux Gamers)

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Yes !

On Saturday 09 February 2002 14:23, you wrote:
| On Thursday 07 February 2002 10:03, Hoyt Duff wrote:
| > On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:13 pm, Leon Brooks wrote:
| >> On Thursday 07 February 2002 05:16, Han wrote:
| >>> Han ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
| >>>> I just tried porting it to OpenBSD and I get:
| >>>
| >>> Ahem. This was ment as a personal mail. Rather OT here don't
| >>> you think?
| >>
| >> Oh, I wouldn't be so sure. There was some discussion on this
| >> list last year about offering an OpenBSD kernel in a Mandrake
| >> distribution... (-:
| >
| > Debian seems to be doing this now.
| >
| > Is the BSD kernel superior to the Linux kernel?
|
| Is Italian cooking better than French?
|
| Cheers; Leon

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Eric MC

Re: [Cooker] OpenBSD (was: Linux Gamers)

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

On Thursday 07 February 2002 03:03, you wrote:
| On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:13 pm, you wrote:
| > On Thursday 07 February 2002 05:16, Han wrote:
| > > Han ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
| > >> I just tried porting it to OpenBSD and I get:
| > >
| > > Ahem. This was ment as a personal mail. Rather OT here don't
| > > you think?
| >
| > Oh, I wouldn't be so sure. There was some discussion on this list
| > last year about offering an OpenBSD kernel in a Mandrake
| > distribution... (-:
|
| Debian seems to be doing this now.
|
| Is the BSD kernel superior to the Linux kernel?
|
I think so ! No doubt !
|
 Hoyt

-- 
Eric MC

[Cooker] compiling kernel 2.4.8-34mdk

[Eric MC]

Hi,
when compiling the update kernel-2.4.8-34mdk on my mdk 8.1 system
I get following errors en warnings 

[root@localhost/linux] # make bzImage > zimfile In 
file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
 from init/main.c:24:   
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:42: warning: control reaches end of 
non-void function
init/main.c: In function `start_kernel':
init/main.c:747: warning: implicit declaration of function `dmi_scan_machine'   In 
file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
   from ll_rw_blk.c:31:   
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:42: warning: control reaches end of 
non-void function
ll_rw_blk.c: In function `generic_make_request':
ll_rw_blk.c:1026: warning: in!
t format, long int arg (arg 5) ll_rw_blk.c:1026: warning: too many 
arguments for formatcdrom.c:337: warning: `cdrom_numspace' 
defined but not used ide.c: In function `ide_dump_status': 
  ide.c:976: warning: unused variable `cur'
   ide-disk.c: In function `init_idedisk_capacity':
ide-disk.c:972: warning: unused variable `set_max_ext' 
 ide-disk.c: At top level: 
  ide-disk.c:833: warning: `idedisk_read_native_max_address_ext' defined but not 
used In 
file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
   from md.c:33:  
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In functio!
n `pers_to_level':/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:4
2: warning: control reaches end of non-void function   
 md.c: In function `md_thread':
  md.c:2918: warning: unused variable `event'  
   pnp_bios.c: In function `mboard_request':   
pnp_bios.c:710: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type  
{standard input}: Assembler messages:   
{standard input}:31: Warning: indirect lcall without `*'
fbcon.c: In function `fbcon_show_logo': 
fbcon.c:2164: warning: unused variable `y1' 
fbcon.c:2164: warning: unused variable `x1' 
fbcon.c:2163: warning: unused variable `src'
fbcon.c:2163: warning: unused variable `dst' !
   In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,  
 from check.c:21:   
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:42: warning: control reaches end of 
non-void function
proc_misc.c: In function `meminfo_read_proc':   
proc_misc.c:201: warning: long unsigned int format, unsigned int arg (arg 19)   
buffer.c: In function `write_unlocked_buffers': 
buffer.c:270: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void
{standard input}: Assembler messages:   
{standard input}:472: Warning: indirect jmp without `*' 
{standard input}:557: Warning: indirect jmp without `*' 
{standard input}:641: Warn!
ing: indirect jmp without `*' {standard input}
:725: Warning: indirect jmp without `*' {standard input}:813: 
:Warning: indirect jmp without `*' {standard input}:888: 
:Warning: indirect jmp without `*' {standard input}:970: 
:Warning: indirect jmp without `*' {standard input}:1043: 
:Warning: indirect jmp without `*'{standard input}:1116: 
:Warning: indirect jmp without `*'{standard input}:1189: 
:Warning: indirect jmp without `*'{standard input}:1262: 
:Wa

[Cooker] compiling kernel 2.4.8-34mdk

[Eric MC]

Hi,
when compiling the update kernel-2.4.8-34mdk on my mdk 8.1 system
I get following errors en warnings 

[root@localhost/linux] # make bzImage > zimfile In 
file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
 from init/main.c:24:   
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:42: warning: control reaches end of 
non-void function
init/main.c: In function `start_kernel':
init/main.c:747: warning: implicit declaration of function `dmi_scan_machine'   In 
file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
   from ll_rw_blk.c:31:   
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:42: warning: control reaches end of 
non-void function
ll_rw_blk.c: In function `generic_make_request':
ll_rw_blk.c:1026: warning: in!
t format, long int arg (arg 5) ll_rw_blk.c:1026: warning: too many 
arguments for formatcdrom.c:337: warning: `cdrom_numspace' 
defined but not used ide.c: In function `ide_dump_status': 
  ide.c:976: warning: unused variable `cur'
   ide-disk.c: In function `init_idedisk_capacity':
ide-disk.c:972: warning: unused variable `set_max_ext' 
 ide-disk.c: At top level: 
  ide-disk.c:833: warning: `idedisk_read_native_max_address_ext' defined but not 
used In 
file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
   from md.c:33:  
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In functio!
n `pers_to_level':/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:42: warning: 
control reaches end of non-void function   
 md.c: In function `md_thread':
  md.c:2918: warning: unused variable `event' 
pnp_bios.c: In function `mboard_request':   
pnp_bios.c:710: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type  
{standard input}: Assembler messages:   
{standard input}:31: Warning: indirect lcall without `*'
fbcon.c: In function `fbcon_show_logo': 
fbcon.c:2164: warning: unused variable `y1' 
fbcon.c:2164: warning: unused variable `x1' 
fbcon.c:2163: warning: unused variable `src'
fbcon.c!
:2163: warning: unused variable `dst'In file 
:included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
:   from check.c:21:   
:/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
:/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:42: warning: control reaches end of 
:non-void function
:proc_misc.c: In function `meminfo_read_proc':   
:proc_misc.c:201: warning: long unsigned int format, unsigned int arg (arg 19)   
:buffer.c: In function `write_unlocked_buffers': 
:buffer.c:270: warning: `return' with a value, in function returning void
:{standard input}: Assembler messages:   
:{standard input}:472: Warning: indirect jmp without `*' 
:{standard input}:557: Warning: indir!
ect jmp without `*' {standard input}:641: Warning: indirect 
jmp without `*' {standard input}:725: Warning: indirect jmp 
without `*' {standard input}:813: Warning: indirect jmp 
without `*' {standard input}:888: Warning: indirect jmp 
without `*' {standard input}:970: Warning: indirect jmp 
without `*' {standard input}:1043: Warning: indirect jmp 
without `*'{standard input}:1116: Warning: indirect jmp 
without `*'{standard input}:1189: Warning: indirect jmp 
without `*'{standard input}:126

RE: [Cooker] isdn and kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Thanks for your reply ,
You are right about Lilo : there were a few blank lines added at the end !
Resolved.
about isdn isa :
Had installed kernel 2.4.15-12 : same pb
and with kernel 2.4.8-34 also the same pb.
The new isdn4k-utils where installed also.
Received a mail from an other MDK 8.1 user who said
that mdk changed the io of the local printer to the io address
of his isdn isa card ( is this exact ?) and resolved the pb with disabling
in the bios the local printer.
That's not my case of course. I need my local printer.

All worked nice with 7.0 to 8.0 and an own 2.2.16-9 kernel, but never with a
2.4. kernel.

Looking to /etc/rc.d/init.d/Isdn4linux ; 2 cards have the same number (34).
Corrected.
Looking where my modem is pointing :  to ttyS2 ; must be ttyS1. Linuxconf
didn't set it as I want.
So corrected it also.

Sorry for your time

Eric MC

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-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Fabrice FACORAT
Sent:   lundi 26 novembre 2001 02:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [Cooker] isdn and kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk

le lun 26-11-2001 à 00:17, Eric MC DECLERCK a écrit :
> Hi
> just installed ver 8.1.
> Had pbs with kernel 2.4.8-26 about isdn.
> So loaded ver 2.4.8-34.1 = same pbs.
> Modprobe failed, worked fine before with mdk 8.0.
> 1. see your /etc/re.d/init.d/isdn4linux :
> very serious bug about type 34 (gazel).

would u mind using latest initscript and isdn4linux cooker packages ?

> Have compiled my own kernel-2.4.8-34.1 now and under
> a 1st compiling had following messages:
> char-major-10-184 not found
> char-major-10-135 not found
> on my 2d compile have this on boot :
> loading linuxEBDA to big (684k??)

lilo pb
you rerun lilo ?

> And always on boout the message :
> .printer shall not work 
>
> What about that all ?
>
> Must i return to my mdk 8.0 and kernel 2.2.17 ??

would u mind installing latest cooker kernel ( rpm -ivh
kernel-2.4.13-11mdk.i586.rpm and change names in boot loader config
files from symbolic link names as vmlinuz to rela names
vmlinuz-2.4.8-26mdk ).
If it doesn't work cooker people will be pleased to have a look at it

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pour se reproduire. Cavanna.

RE: [Cooker] Re: isdn and kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

And where do we report a BUUG ! Dmd
Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian J. Murrell
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] Re: isdn and kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:17:20AM +0100, Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> > Hi
> > just installed ver 8.1.
> 
> This is a list for Cooker not Mandrake Linux 8.1.  Please go use the
> MandrakeExpert forum for help with released products.
> 
> b.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Brian J. Murrell
> 
> 

[Cooker] isdn and kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi
just installed ver 8.1.
Had pbs with kernel 2.4.8-26 about isdn.
So loaded ver 2.4.8-34.1 = same pbs.
Modprobe failed, woeked fine before with mdk 8.0.
1. see your /etc/re.d/init.d/isdn4linux :
very serious bug about type 34 (gazel).

Have compiled my own kernel-2.4.8-34.1 now and under
a 1st compiling had following messages:
char-major-10-184 not found
char-major-10-135 not found 
on my 2d compile have this on boot :
loading linuxEBDA to big (684k??)
And always on boout the message :
.printer shall not work 

What about that all ?

Must i return to my mdk 8.0 and kernel 2.2.17 ??

Thanks if there is a solution.
Eric MC

Re: [Cooker] I want Gnome instead of KDE

[Eric MC]

Look first if 0.. gnome is available in /etc/X11/wmsession.d
Check /etc/X11/prefdm
An other way:
type when in console: xdm --nodaemeon
and select gnome in the opened window.
I think this will also set your session.
After that try with startx.
Eric MC

On Tuesday 08 May 2001 22:58, you wrote:
| I installed MDK 7.2 fine on my machiine but it boots up in KDE while I
| would prefere a Gnome environment for X. What do I need to do for it !
|
| Thomas,

Re: [Cooker] ksysv

[Eric MC]

I'm sorry, but there is NO binary of ksysv available by kdeadmin (mdk) !
Only the doc. So no where if you are root or not.
Eric MC

On Saturday 05 May 2001 15:12, you wrote:
| On 4 May 2001, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
| > Peter Putzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > > > heavy bugged
| > >
| > > What? Did you report those bugs?
| >
| > i reported it to mdk kde team[*] who reported it to kde
| >
| > > The releases ksysv should be completely stable actually... *wonders*
| >
| > have you really tried it ?
| >
| > there were 'you need to be root to run it ..." when being root plus
| > crashes ...
|
| There should be no "you need to be root" message normally. There was a bug
| that made that message appear in case a directory did not exist, but that
| was fixed some time ago... in any case, just setting correct paths by
| default would have fixed that.
|
| As for crashes, I don't remember any meaningful reports (some guy mailed
| me, but well, a clip from the shell that just says something like "caught
| sig11, core dumped" doesn't really help), and none coming from Mandrake.
|
| regards,
| Peter

Re: [Cooker] drakfont doesn't work

[Eric MC]

On Friday 04 May 2001 22:43, you wrote:
| I think someone mentioned this already, but drakfont doesn't work at all in
| LM 8.0.  It was very slowww in Beta 3.
|
| can someone please remind me how to install new truetype fonts without
| having to go through drakfont?
Open /etc/XF86Config or XF86Config-4 and simply add it.
Eric MC

[Cooker] bug report printing

[Eric MC]

hi cooker,
there is a serious pb with the printer set-up in DrakConf.
Use mdk 8, printer = lp (no cups, and not installed)
The printerinstaller doesn't recognize the rhs-printfilters and there are 
several errors in the printtool prog. (error messages)
One of the error messages said: no rhs-printfilters package installed, but on 
the setup it comes up.
Has checked the permissions = ok.
tests doesn't run.
Lpd daemon loaded of course.
My printer is a 815C (same as 810C ??) and is detected as a HP 810C.
But this driver doesn't work !! I have to delect the HP 550,600... series, 
THIS worked in the past. If I select this one printerdrake refuse it and 
continu with the HP 810C.
So, can't print at all.
There were no pbs with 7.2.

eric MC

[Cooker] DrakConf

[Eric MC]

hi cooker,
there is a serious pb with the printer set-up in DrakConf.
Use mdk 8, printer = lp (no cups, ni installed)
The printerinstaller doesn't recognize the rhs-printfilters and there are 
several errors in the printtool prog. (error messages)
One of the error messages said: no rhs-printfilters package installed, but on 
the setup it comes up.
Has checked the permissions = ok.
Lpd daemon loaded of course.
So, can't print at all.
There were no pbs with 7.2.

eric MC

[Cooker] ksysv

[Eric MC]

No more ksysv with kdeadmin (kde2) ???
Eric MC

Re: [Cooker] screem

[Eric MC]

Sorry for mandrake
Builded an older version that works !!
Eric MC

On Wednesday 02 May 2001 20:47, you wrote:
| So sprach Eric MC am Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:13:35PM +0200:
| > Thanks, indeed some devels weren't installed.
| > Have installed apparantly all needed devels and packages now.
| > But,
| > checking for qt_null in lqthreads... no
| > checking for qt_null in lqt... no
| > checking for library containing gethostbyname... none  required
| > checking for library containing socket... none  required
| >
| > If needed where can I find it ??
|
| urpmf libqthreads libqt
|
| This will tell you.
|
| Alexander Skwar

Re: [Re: [Cooker] screem]

[Eric MC]

Thanks, BUT IS INSTALLED.
Eric MC

On Wednesday 02 May 2001 16:09, you wrote:
| Eric MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > Thanks, indeed some devels weren't installed.
| > Have installed apparantly all needed devels and packages now.
| > But,
| > checking for qt_null in lqthreads... no
| > checking for qt_null in lqt... no
|
| libqt2-devel?
|
| > checking for library containing gethostbyname... none  required
| > checking for library containing socket... none  required
|
| glibc-devel
|
| =-=
| kk1
|
| 
| Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Re: [Cooker] screem

[Eric MC]

Ok, is compiled..painfull.
BUT,
same results, freezes at initiali..
Compiled without VFS support,... same.

So screem can't run, why ??
Based on GNOME, is this WM not fully supported by Mandrake ??
The mandrake guy who's compiled screem, did he test it ??

Eric MC


On Tuesday 01 May 2001 23:59, you wrote:
| So sprach Eric MC am Tue, May 01, 2001 at 10:03:06PM +0200:
| > Running mdk 8, screem freezes after 'init.. interface' on start.
| > No error messages are displayed.
|
| Oh, yeah, happens here as well.  Did not happen some time (~1 week) ago
|
| > When tryng to compile the scr, ./configure is searching "Xpm" and "xml"
| > for linking .
| > Doesn't found of course it do not exist on this system version.
|
| Uhm, libxpm4{,-devel} and libxml{,-devel} are installed?
|
| Alexander Skwar

Re: [Cooker] screem

[Eric MC]

Thanks, indeed some devels weren't installed.
Have installed apparantly all needed devels and packages now.
But, 
checking for qt_null in lqthreads... no
checking for qt_null in lqt... no
checking for library containing gethostbyname... none  required
checking for library containing socket... none  required

If needed where can I find it ?? 
(all php packages are installed)
Eric MC

On Tuesday 01 May 2001 23:59, you wrote:
| So sprach Eric MC am Tue, May 01, 2001 at 10:03:06PM +0200:
| > Running mdk 8, screem freezes after 'init.. interface' on start.
| > No error messages are displayed.
|
| Oh, yeah, happens here as well.  Did not happen some time (~1 week) ago
|
| > When tryng to compile the scr, ./configure is searching "Xpm" and "xml"
| > for linking .
| > Doesn't found of course it do not exist on this system version.
|
| Uhm, libxpm4{,-devel} and libxml{,-devel} are installed?
|
| Alexander Skwar

[Cooker] ISDN and kernel 2.4+

[Eric MC]

ayer2 Revision 2.25
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: TeiMgr Revision 2.17
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: Layer3 Revision 2.17.6.1
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: LinkLayer Revision 2.51
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: Approval certification failed 
because of
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: unauthorized source code changes
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: Card 1 Protocol EDSS1 Id=Gazel (0)
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: Driver Revision 2.11.6.3
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: ISA PnP card automatic recognition
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: Card ISA R647/R648 found
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: config irq:3 isac:0x8240  cfg:0xC240
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: hscx A:0x240  hscx B:0x4240
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: ISAC version (0): 2086/2186 V1.1
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: HSCX version A: V2.1  B: V2.1
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: IRQ 3 count 0
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: Gazel: IRQ 3 count 2
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: DSS1 Rev. 2.30
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: 2 channels added
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: HiSax: MAX_WAITING_CALLS added
May  2 05:56:45 localhost kernel: isdn: Verbose-Level is 2

So what happen exactly ??

Eric MC

[Cooker] screem

[Eric MC]

Running mdk 8, screem freezes after 'init.. interface' on start.
No error messages are displayed.

When tryng to compile the scr, ./configure is searching "Xpm" and "xml" for 
linking . 
Doesn't found of course it do not exist on this system version.

So how did you to make an rpm of it ?

Eric MC

Re: [Cooker] Problems with update-menus

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

That's RIGHT !
It never works, not one mdk version.
For me of course.
Eric MC


On Monday 30 April 2001 20:02, you wrote:
| Hello!
|   I want to ask here if anybody has problems with updating menus
|   in mandrake 8.0.
|
|   I received few reports from my friends. They say that
|   update-menus takes 100% CPU and never ends!
|
|   Do you have similar problems? (Because I found the solution, but
|   I don't know if it is needed to make FIX into official package)
|
|   Best regards
|   Michal


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Re: [Cooker] mdk install freezed!!

[Eric MC]

Have the same and mdk 8.
No problems.
But I didn't select the test !
Reconfigured with xf86config.
And I had to copy my /etc/X11/XF86Config to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
If this can help.
Eric MC

On Tuesday 01 May 2001 08:10, you wrote:
| I have an S3 Virge generic video card (86c325) and the ONLY Mdk distro
| that has allowed me to complete installation without problems was 7.2,
| and that only worked using Expert.  I've had no problems with other
| distros (Red Hat, Definite, Caldera, Storm, Corel, Debian). This seems
| to be a very big problem with Mandrake as it took from my first ever
| Linux distro of 7.0 'till 7.2 to fix the problem. Mdk 8 beta 1 could
| complete X installation, but sometimes I got an unusable display (three
| copies of everything, very jagged). From beta 2 onwards the only way
| I've been able to test is by reinstalling 7.2 and doing an upgrade.
| I've ben reading of this problem in the Mandrake newsgroup ever since I
| first started using it. I have sent bug reports and posted to this
| group, but have never had a reply. Is anyone going to fix this problem,
| and the one that freezes the install in anything but expert when it
| trues to detect scsi (I have none)?
|
| Thank you for the reply I hope to get.
|
| Lesley Lawless
|
| Mohammad DAMT wrote:
| > Hello,
| > tried to install mdk8 this afternoon, results:
| > - install freezed when I tried to look at hardware info at eth install
| >   (autodetect on, eth card detected --> RTL-8029)
| >   no mouse no keyboard, even sysreq magic was dead
| >   I pushed reset button, update installation, and didn't have guts to
| > look at the hardware info - install freezed when started to initiate X
| > configuration
| >   reset again (no mouse/kbd/dead again)
| >   repeated install procedures until X, and freezed AGAIN
| >   reset again, I took the CD out
| >   boot to installed system, but couldn't login,
| >   guess what ?? /etc/pam.d/passwd is corrupted as binary file,
| >   /bin/login corrupted also,
| >   so I reinstall those files with rpm from CDROM
| >   so I can login...
| >   then I ran drakexconf, freeze again, no mouse no keybd sysreq dead
| >   reset
| >   then I ran Xconfigurator, it called drakexconf too, dead again
| >   reset
| >   ran XFree86 -configure, goes perfecto...
| >
| > my video card is S3 Trio 3D/2x
| >
| > --
| > Mohammad DAMT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.mdamt.net
| > "nyai dasime ngeglundung, glundang glundung, nyemplung ke kali ciliwung",
| > Nyai Dasime Kembang Pejambon, Benjamin S.

Re: [Cooker] ISDN & Kernel 2.4

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Important ?? of course.
This happens with all 2.4 kernels .
and /etc/rc.d.init.d/isdn4linux start FAILS !
and loading hisax module failed. 
because of a bad initialisation ??
Not at all, the setup of my card and isp is RIGHT .
Until kernel 2.2.19 all goes well,
so what was be done yet with 2.4 ?
Eric MC 


On Tuesday 01 May 2001 02:15, you wrote:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chmouel Boudjnah) writes:
| > "dam's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chmouel Boudjnah) writes:
| > > > "Eric MC DECLERCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > > > > Hi cooker,
| > > > >
| > > > > can't connect to my ISP:
| > > > > running kernel 2.4.3-20mdk on mdk 8.0
| > > > > ISDN Card : Gazel ISA PNP
| > > > >
| > > > > Error message : (on boot)
| > > > > 'Approval certification failed because of unauthorized source code
| > > > > changes'
| > > > >
| > > > > What's this ?
| > > >
| > > > you got to upgrade your firmware with the tools of Gazel (ask damien
| > > > where to find it).
| > >
| > > err... I dunno where to find it
| >
| > you tell me last time :-(.
|
| did I .. oh shit..
| But is it that much important?

[Cooker] kde security hole

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

The KDE Project today released kdelibs-2.1.2 to address a security issue
in KDEsu which could permit a user to gain root access, and to fix some
bugs. Particularly joyful to many of you who use Konqueror will be the
fix of the "protocol for http://x.y.z died unexpectedly" bug.

The full announcement, including a list of changes, is at
http://dot.kde.org/988663144/.

Eric MC

Re: [Cooker] ISDN & Kernel 2.4

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Who is Damien ??
Eric MC

On Monday 30 April 2001 23:05, you wrote:
| "Eric MC DECLERCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > Hi cooker,
| >
| > can't connect to my ISP:
| > running kernel 2.4.3-20mdk on mdk 8.0
| > ISDN Card : Gazel ISA PNP
| >
| > Error message : (on boot)
| > 'Approval certification failed because of unauthorized source code
| > changes'
| >
| > What's this ?
|
| you got to upgrade your firmware with the tools of Gazel (ask damien
| where to find it).

[Cooker] ISDN & Kernel 2.4

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi cooker,

can't connect to my ISP:
running kernel 2.4.3-20mdk on mdk 8.0
ISDN Card : Gazel ISA PNP

Error message : (on boot)
'Approval certification failed because of unauthorized source code changes'

What's this ?

Eric MC

Re: [Cooker] StarOffice Freeze

[Eric MC]

Have a S3 video card also.
No pb with staroffice but I insertde in my .bashrc:
export SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true

Eric MC

On Monday 23 April 2001 23:22, you wrote:
| I looked in soffice and there weren't any lines like you indicated to
| change.  I am using a laptop with a S3 video card.
|
| Jon
|
| - Original Message -
| From: "Matthias Badaire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:18 PM
| Subject: Re: [Cooker] StarOffice Freeze
|
| > Jon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > > I have been attempting to instal/run StarOffice 5.2 on
| > > my newly loaded 8.0 system but as soon as the
| > > StarOffice screen comes up where you would click the
| > > next button to begin installation my entire system
| > > freezes and I must reset my machine, I cannot go to
| > > another console.  Anyone else have this prob?
| >
| > Don't you have a Savage card ?
| > If you do try to change the /usr/bin/soffice scripts
| > Change this line
| > \`lspcidrake|grep -q "ProSavage"\` && export
| > SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true with this one
| > \`lspcidrake|grep -q "Savage"\` && export SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true
| >
| > It should work
| > --
| > Matthias Badaire
|
| _
| Do You Yahoo!?
| Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

-- 
Good day to avoid cops.  Crawl to work.

Re: [Cooker]

[Eric MC]

How do you boot the machine exactly ?
With a floppy, or the hd ?
There must be at least a vmlinuz  and System.map in your /boot dir.
Did you install a precompiled kernel and looked at /boot  after the 
install ?

On Sunday 22 April 2001 19:56, you wrote:
| Can't do anything with lilo.  I looked in my /boot
| directory and it is absolutely empty.  I don't know

How did you seen it if you can't boot ?

| how the thing even boots.  I have tried to install
| Mandrake on this machine several times and get this
| same problem over and over.  Oddly enough though Red
| Hat 7.1 will install flawlessly and boots quickly
| without problems.
|
| --- Eric MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > Look at /lib/moules/2...mdk
| > if there is a modules.dep
| > If not try first to reinstall a precompiled kernel
| > and look again.
| > Check also your /etc/lilo.conf if it is updated with
| > this new installed
| > kernel. If not add them and do a lilo -v.
| > I suppose it's not your first kernel you install ?
| > Eric MC
| >
| > On Saturday 21 April 2001 23:13, you wrote:
| > | I have found that since Mandrak 7.1 after a clean
| > | install on my main workstation, that during boot
| >
| > up
| >
| > | the system hangs at finding module dependencies.
| >
| > I
| >
| > | was quite hoping to remove windows from my machine
| > | with the release of Mandrake 8.0 but have found
| >
| > the
| >
| > | same problem exists with this version as well.  I
| >
| > have
| >
| > | no problems of this nature with other
| >
| > distributions.
| >
| > | Do I need to recompile my kernel?
| > |
| > | =
| > | Jon K. Miller
| > |
| > | --
| > | Microsoft is not the answer.
| > | Microsoft is the question.
| > | Linux is the answer.
| > |
| > | __
| > | Do You Yahoo!?
| > | Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great
| >
| > prices
| >
| > | http://auctions.yahoo.com/
| >
| > --
| > Then there's the story of the man who avoided
| > reality for 70 years
| > with drugs, sex, alcohol, fantasy, TV, movies,
| > records, a hobby, lots of
| > sleep...  And on his 80th birthday died without ever
| > having faced any of
| > his real problems.
| > The man's younger brother, who had been facing
| > reality and all his
| > problems for 50 years with psychiatrists, nervous
| > breakdowns, tics,
| > tension,
| > headaches, worry, anxiety and ulcers, was so angry
| > at his brother for
| > having
| > gotten away scott free that he had a paralyzing
| > stroke.
| > The moral to this story is that there ain't no
| > justice that we can
| > stand to live with.
| > -- R. Geis
|
| =
| Jon K. Miller
|
| --
| Microsoft is not the answer.
| Microsoft is the question.
| Linux is the answer.
|
| __
| Do You Yahoo!?
| Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
| http://auctions.yahoo.com/

-- 
I may not be totally perfect, but parts of me are excellent.
-- Ashleigh Brilliant

Re: [Cooker]

[Eric MC]

Look at /lib/moules/2...mdk
if there is a modules.dep
If not try first to reinstall a precompiled kernel 
and look again.
Check also your /etc/lilo.conf if it is updated with this new installed 
kernel. If not add them and do a lilo -v.
I suppose it's not your first kernel you install ?
Eric MC

On Saturday 21 April 2001 23:13, you wrote:
| I have found that since Mandrak 7.1 after a clean
| install on my main workstation, that during boot up
| the system hangs at finding module dependencies.  I
| was quite hoping to remove windows from my machine
| with the release of Mandrake 8.0 but have found the
| same problem exists with this version as well.  I have
| no problems of this nature with other distributions.
| Do I need to recompile my kernel?
|
| =
| Jon K. Miller
|
| --
| Microsoft is not the answer.
| Microsoft is the question.
| Linux is the answer.
|
| __
| Do You Yahoo!?
| Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
| http://auctions.yahoo.com/

-- 
Then there's the story of the man who avoided reality for 70 years
with drugs, sex, alcohol, fantasy, TV, movies, records, a hobby, lots of
sleep...  And on his 80th birthday died without ever having faced any of
his real problems.
The man's younger brother, who had been facing reality and all his
problems for 50 years with psychiatrists, nervous breakdowns, tics, 
tension,
headaches, worry, anxiety and ulcers, was so angry at his brother for 
having
gotten away scott free that he had a paralyzing stroke.
The moral to this story is that there ain't no justice that we can
stand to live with.
-- R. Geis

Re: [Cooker] where is 8.0

[Eric MC]

Downloaded also .
How did you to see if the iso is not corrupted 
Eric MC

|
| Ad results of all the congestion I got a corrupted iso (?)
|
| 0de166745f40bba5cd9c4f051d9cdccf  Mandrake80-ext.iso <---This is the
| original 0eb9f3d20dd87a8b2922e058bbea1e90  Mandrake80-ext.iso <---This
| is what I got
|
|  So I might need to download AGAIN...!
|
| Sergio Korlowsky

-- 
index, n.:
Alphabetical list of words of no possible interest where an
alphabetical list of subjects with references ought to be.

Re: [Cooker] Aix slocc program for linux

[Eric MC]

I'v created a list + numbering line prog in 'c' (1986)
If you are a 'c' programmer, you can change uneccessary things and compile 
it on your system.

Eric MC

On Friday 20 April 2001 22:36, you wrote:
| Hi there,
|
| I am in desperate need for a portation of the AIX slocc (source line
| of code counting) program.
|
| So far I know it is only avaiable for Aix and perhaps solaris. Does any
| out there know of a port to linux or maybe a Aix code emulator?
|
| I have been able to find similar progs but the interface and output are
| different and thus our developers won't use it.
|
| Any help would be very much appreciated
|
| Regards,
|
| Mads Rasmussen
| Ci&T Systems

-- 
Were these parsnips CORRECTLY MARINATED in TACO SAUCE?

Re: [Cooker] arts and KDE

[Eric MC]

Have no arts installed, but must be enabled (in kde2 for me) to have sound 
!
Eric MC

On Wednesday 18 April 2001 15:26, you wrote:
| On Wednesday 18 April 2001 00:00, you wrote:
| > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Vincent Meyer wrote:
| > > Hey,
| > >
| > >   Wouldn't it make sense that if sound is loaded and KDE is loaded,
| > > then arts should be loaded?  latest install did not select arts to
| > > install.
| >
| > So you use libsafe?
| >
| > -andrej
|
| ummm... libsafe?  what that?
|
| V.

-- 
To many, total abstinence is easier than perfect moderation.
-- St. Augustine

RE: [Cooker] menu

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Version: menu-2.1.5-42mdk

ldd of /usr/bin/update-menus  attached !

Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Frederic Crozat
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] menu
>
>
> Dans l'article <000201c0c205$240c8840$e93a1bd4@ftiuw7zYdu>, "Eric MC
> DECLERCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
>
> > Impossible to run 'update-menus' without an immediate segmentation
> > fault. A serious pb when installing packages with this postrun. Rebuild
> > 'menu' give me the error 'not found rpmio'. What can I do ?
> > Eric MC
>
> Which version of menu do you have installed ?
>
> Could you also try a ldd /usr/bin/update-menus
>
>
> --
> Frédéric Crozat
> MandrakeSoft
>
>


librpm.so.0 => /usr/lib/librpm.so.0 (0x40025000)
libpopt.so.0 => /lib/libpopt.so.0 (0x40076000)
libdb.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdb.so.2 (0x4007c000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x4008a000)
libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 (0x4009a000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x400e3000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40103000)
libbz2.so.1 => /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1 (0x4022c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

RE: [Cooker] menu

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

I'm running Glic 2 2 and gcc 2.96 !
Did you solve this pb ?
Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R.I.P. Deaddog
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:39 AM
> To: cooker
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] menu
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
>
> > Hi Lepied,
> >
> > I'm tryng to rebuild menu-2.1.5-42 bcause of a constantly 'segmentation
> > fault'
> > on a postrun when install a package. And update-menus segmentation fault
> > also.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but what compiler are you using to compile
> > a 'const char**' to convert to 'char**' ?? on update-menus.cc ??
>
> Suspect you are facing glibc 2.2/gcc 2.95.x issue again, since I've been
> bite heavily, having similar symptom as yours..
>
> Abel Cheung
>
>
>

[Cooker] menu

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Impossible to run 'update-menus' without an immediate segmentation fault.
A serious pb when installing packages with this postrun.
Rebuild 'menu' give me the error 'not found rpmio'.
What can I do ?
Eric MC 

[Cooker] menu

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi Lepied,

I'm tryng to rebuild menu-2.1.5-42 bcause of a constantly 'segmentation
fault'
on a postrun when install a package. And update-menus segmentation fault
also.

I'm sorry, but what compiler are you using to compile
a 'const char**' to convert to 'char**' ?? on update-menus.cc ??

Or is it mine who's can do it ?

Eric MC

RE: [Cooker] boot & login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

NO !
when doing a 'su' the command is searching for 'hash' !!!
Error: /bin/hash not found.
So I made a link /bin/hash --> /bin/bash
And this works.
Installed last sh_utils, maybe the bug is there.
(su stays in sh_utils, isn't ?)

To solve this pbs I isntalled now:
an older util-linux (7.2)
an older bash
+ this famous link.

Eric MC


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chmouel Boudjnah
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 4:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] boot & login
> 
> 
> "Eric MC DECLERCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi Cmouel,
> > 
> > changed my /bin/login by an older one.
> > So, can login as USER, but no more as root.
> > 
> > There is also a bug in sh_utils, (su) 
> > when doing a 'su' it searched for /bin/hash , must be /bin/bash !!!
> > 
> > So, not only initscripts but also sh_utils must be revised.
> > 
> > Didn't you sau correct the pb to last night ?
> 
> well, that really strange i just did a new install and can't reproduce
> the problem and can't see the call in /bin/hash when doing a string on
> su, are you sure the problem is not somewhere else ?
> 
> -- 
> MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
>   --Chmouel
> 
> 

RE: [Cooker] boot & login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Did a link as /bin/hash --> /bin/bash and now can login as 'su'.
Updating pam only didn't correct the pb nor updating bash.
There are realy to more bugs in the base files of cooker (8).
Eric MC


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrej Borsenkow
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 2:35 PM
> To: cooker
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] boot & login
> 
> 
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> 
> > Hi Cmouel,
> >
> > changed my /bin/login by an older one.
> > So, can login as USER, but no more as root.
> >
> > There is also a bug in sh_utils, (su)
> > when doing a 'su' it searched for /bin/hash , must be /bin/bash !!!
> >
> > So, not only initscripts but also sh_utils must be revised.
> >
> > Didn't you sau correct the pb to last night ?
> >
> > Eric MC
> >
> 
> I do not get the problem anymore and in my case it looks like pam update.
> At least, after updating pam I was able to log in normally.
> 
> -andrej
> 
> 
> 

[Cooker] boot & login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi Cmouel,

changed my /bin/login by an older one.
So, can login as USER, but no more as root.

There is also a bug in sh_utils, (su) 
when doing a 'su' it searched for /bin/hash , must be /bin/bash !!!

So, not only initscripts but also sh_utils must be revised.

Didn't you sau correct the pb to last night ?

Eric MC

RE: [Cooker] cooker: login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Welcome to the club of failed logins.
Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrej Borsenkow
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] cooker: login
> 
> 
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> 
> > Hi Chmouel
> >
> > I'v posted a message to cooker and expert without any 
> answer.Not so expert
> > att all ??
> > Here it is:
> >
> > Hi cooker guys,
> > I'm looking for login just after the boot, when the 'Welcome to 
> mandrake'
> > comes up. (console stage)on init 3.
> > When giving-up the user name and then the password, nothing happen.
> > and no PROMPT.
> > When then typing anyting, the console reflects exactly a second 
> time what I
> > had typing.
> > The only way to reboot is a crt-alt-del.
> >
> 
> I confirm that with 2.4.3-8mdk and latest initscripts, root on reiserfs,
> fb+Aurora with ASUS V7100 (GF2MX).
> What happens is:
> 
> system boots, I get login prompt on the first (tty1)
> I enter user, password and press enter
> nothing happens
> 
> I can switch to the second console and login, when I do ps -ft tty1 I see
> just login -- - no shell.
> 
> It happens not only after boot, but after logout as well, but always (so
> far) on tty1.
> 
> 
> pretty annoying
> 
> -andrej
> 
> 
> 

RE: [Cooker] cooker: login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Of course I did. (I do)
There must be something wrong IMHO about the handshake between /bin/login
and bash for all rcX's after the 1.
Eric MC


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R.I.P.
> Deaddog
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 7:21 PM
> To: Mandrake Cooker List
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] cooker: login
>
>
>
> Not really expert reply here. Did you wait for several minutes before
> determining that your shell failed to start at all?
>
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
>
> > Hi Chmouel
> >
> > I'v posted a message to cooker and expert without any
> answer.Not so expert
> > att all ??
> > Here it is:
> >
> > Hi cooker guys,
> > I'm looking for login just after the boot, when the 'Welcome to
> mandrake'
> > comes up. (console stage)on init 3.
> > When giving-up the user name and then the password, nothing happen.
> > and no PROMPT.
> > When then typing anyting, the console reflects exactly a second
> time what I
> > had typing.
> > The only way to reboot is a crt-alt-del.
> >
> > The strange thing is that I can login in FAILSAFE MODE !(single)
> > Going to /sbin/telinit S. (workstation)
> > As root only of course.
> > Checked everything I think, all about security, all bashrc's , rc's,
> > local's, tty, rc.sysinit,inittab with 'echo's' to check if it
> was accessed
> > and running.
> > All goes well and the last step the system is taken is the root
> .bashrc.(is
> > it ?)
> > >From now I must have my bash prompt, did it ? There is nothing
> wrong with my
> > bashrc.
> > But NOTHING.
> > A second strange thigs is that after logging in as init 3, and
> looking the
> > /var/log/messages; it say's 'session opened for root' and 'logged in as
> > root' ! Logged in on tty1.
> >
> > I resume:
> > Logging in in failsafe mode : bash prompt is there.
> > Logging in as init 3 : NO bash prompt and can't go further.
> >
> > Have XFee86-4.0.2, kde-2.1 and kernel 4.2 installed.
> >
> > What can I do ?
> >
> > Txs
> > Eric MC
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

RE: [Cooker] cooker: login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Thanks Cmouel for your quick return.
You saved my live :)
was waithing since 28-03-01 for an answer.
Hope I can rerun my linux-mandrake.
Can you tell me what I have to download exactly to repair it ?
Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chmouel Boudjnah
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pascal Rigaux; Thierry Vignaud
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] cooker: login
> 
> 
> "Eric MC DECLERCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi cooker guys,
> > I'm looking for login just after the boot, when the 'Welcome to 
> mandrake'
> > comes up. (console stage)on init 3.
> > When giving-up the user name and then the password, nothing happen.
> > and no PROMPT.
> > When then typing anyting, the console reflects exactly a second 
> time what I
> > had typing.
> > The only way to reboot is a crt-alt-del.
> 
> it's the stupid patches of pixel and tv on rc.sysint that i gonna to
> revert unless they debug this and fix it before tonight.
> 
> -- 
> MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
>   --Chmouel
> 
> 

[Cooker] cooker: login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi Chmouel

I'v posted a message to cooker and expert without any answer.Not so expert
att all ??
Here it is:

Hi cooker guys,
I'm looking for login just after the boot, when the 'Welcome to mandrake'
comes up. (console stage)on init 3.
When giving-up the user name and then the password, nothing happen.
and no PROMPT.
When then typing anyting, the console reflects exactly a second time what I
had typing.
The only way to reboot is a crt-alt-del.

The strange thing is that I can login in FAILSAFE MODE !(single)
Going to /sbin/telinit S. (workstation)
As root only of course.
Checked everything I think, all about security, all bashrc's , rc's,
local's, tty, rc.sysinit,inittab with 'echo's' to check if it was accessed
and running.
All goes well and the last step the system is taken is the root .bashrc.(is
it ?)
>From now I must have my bash prompt, did it ? There is nothing wrong with my
bashrc.
But NOTHING.
A second strange thigs is that after logging in as init 3, and looking the
/var/log/messages; it say's 'session opened for root' and 'logged in as
root' ! Logged in on tty1.

I resume:
Logging in in failsafe mode : bash prompt is there.
Logging in as init 3 : NO bash prompt and can't go further.

Have XFee86-4.0.2, kde-2.1 and kernel 4.2 installed.

What can I do ?

Txs
Eric MC

[expert] boot and login process

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Because of my pbs to login ;
Is there anyone who's know extactly the order of the steps who's are taken
by a mandrake distrib
on the boot and login to the display of the first prompt ?
Finded several docs and books very confusing.
In my opinion this is the first thing to know, but i didn't find a concrete
doc about it.
As boot, rc.sysinit, rc, rc.local, profile, bash, bash-profile, .bashrc,
getty, .bashrc, etc..
Any help fully appreciated.
Eric MC

[Cooker] unsatisfied dependencies

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

xlockmoer-4.15-3mdk
xscreensaver-gl-3.18-3mdk
xtraceroute-0.8.14-7mdk

== unsatisfied dependencies about libGLU.so.3 !

$ locate ibGLUS.so.3
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.3

It's there, so what happen ?

Eric MC

[Cooker] qt2-static-lib

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi cooker,

after upgrade to qt2-2.3.0-2, found a link as /usr/lib/libqxr.a pointing to
NOTHING.
Must point to /usr/lib/qt2/libqxt.a ???

???
Eric MC

[Cooker] basesystem

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi all,
can it be a pb to change my basesystem 7.2 package to 8 ??
Indeed, this pkg said, don't remove (or replace ?) this pgs.
Eric MC

[Cooker] bash login

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi cooker guys,
I'm looking for login just after the boot, when the 'Welcome to mandrake'
comes up. (console stage)on init 3.
When giving-up the user name and then the password, nothing happen.
and no PROMPT.
When then typing anyting, the console reflects exactly a second time what I
had typing.
The only way to reboot is a crt-alt-del.

The strange thing is that I can login in FAILSAFE MODE !(single)
Going to /sbin/telinit S. (workstation)
As root only of course.
Checked everything I think, all about security, all bashrc's , rc's,
local's, tty, rc.sysinit,
with 'echo's' to check if it was accessed and running.
All goes well and the last step the system is taken is the root bashrc.
>From now I must have my bash prompt, did it ? There is nothing wrong with my
bashrc.
But NOTHING.
A second strange thigs is that after logging in as init 3, and looking the
/var/log/messages; it say's 'session opened for root' and 'logged in as
root' ! Logged -n on tty1.

I resume:
Logging in in failsafe mode : bash prompt is there.
Logging in as init 3 : NO bash prompt and can't go further.

Have XFee86-4.0.2, kde-2.1 and kernel 4.2 installed.

What can I do ?

Txs
Eric MC

RE: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate + RPM 4 + compiling menu

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Same for me.
When compiling 'menu' (menu doesn't work for me, so I'll try to rebuild it).
The Error message is:
install-menu.cc: In method configinfo::configinfo(parsestreem &)
install-menu.cc: 933 : Internal error: segmentation fault.

And: librpm.so.0fdio.

Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Serodio
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate + RPM 4
>
>
>   I'm using LM 7.2 + a few cooker updates (including rpm-4.0-22mdk),
> and when I run MandrakeUpdate it says "MandrakeUpdate: error while loading
> shared libraries: /usr/lib/librpm.so.0: undefined symbol: fdio" and bails
> out. How can I fix it? TIA
>
> --
> []'s|.~.
> Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |   // \\   www.gnu.org
> |  /(   )\  www.gnome.org
> |   ^`~'^
>
>
>

RE: [Cooker] login at boot

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

At this stage i'm not sure.
The login to KDE is my second step.
I'm looking for login just after the boot, when the 'Welcome to mandrake'
comes up. (console stage)on init 3.
When giving-up the user name and then the password, nothing happen.
and no PROMPT.
When then typing anyting, the console reflects exactly a second time what I
had typing.
The only way to reboot is a crt-alt-del.

The strange thing is that I can login in FAILSAFE MODE !(single)
Going to /sbin/telinit S. (workstation)
As root only of course.
Checked everything I think, all about security, all bashrc's , rc's,
local's, tty, rc.sysinit,
with 'echo's' to check if it was accessed and running.
All goes well and the last step the system is taken is the root bashrc.
>From now I must have my bash prompt, did it ? There is nothing wrong with my
bashrc.
But NOTHING.
A second strange thigs is that after logging in as init 3, and looking the
/var/log/messages; it say's 'session opened for root' and 'logged in as
root' ! Logged -n on tty1.

I resume:
Logging in in failsafe mode : bash prompt is there.
Logging in as init 3 : NO bash prompt and can't go further.

Have XFee86-4.0.2, kde-2.1 and kernel 4.2 installed.

This problem is there immediatly after updating qt2 to version 2.3.0-2.
Do not use the rpm-4 version for updating.

Eric MC
> I had a problem like that in 7.2-hmm
> Didn't have a thing to do w/ qt did it?
> KDEinit
> some dcopserver stuff.  whatever.
>
> On 26 Mar 2001 10:08:53 +0200, Eric MC DECLERCK wrote something.
>
>
>
>

[Cooker] login at boot

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hello guys,
after an update of qt2-2.3.0-2mdk (as a foul did it when kde was running.
So can no more login at boot.
Kernel loaded and all, but after giving the username (ex:root) and the
password; the message of the last login is displayed; after that NO MORE.
The screen stay there as is without the bash prompt.
Checked messages (no errors) , bash, init,tty, etc (basesystem)
rc.sysint, rc, rc.local, /etc/bashrc, /root/.bashrc,/etc/issue,
tryed with securetty off, checked rc3.d, nothing helps.
Disabling all services didn't help also.
/var/log/messages says 'logged-in as ROOT', that's all.
The very strange is that I can login as SINGLE (for maintenance)selecting
'interactive startup'.
Why can I login on rc1.d and not rc3.d ?
Setting rc3.d as rc1.d didn't help when login as rc3.d.
My system: mdk 7.2+, pentium.

Eric MC

Re: [Cooker] gftp-2.0.8pre2-1mdk

[Eric MC D]

linux-mandrake  /incoming
as src file to compile with added spec file.
Eric MC

On Monday 19 March 2001 16:21, you wrote:
| On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Roger wrote:
|
| { Eric MC D wrote:
| { >
| { > Uploaded latest gftp package as src.rpm
| { >
| { > Name: gftp Relocations: /usr
| { > Version : 2.0.8pre2Vendor: MandrakeSoft
| { > Release : 1mdk Build Date: Sat Mar 17
| 14:49:43 2001 { > Install date: Sat Mar 17 14:53:50 2001
| { > Group   : Networking/File transfer
| { > Source RPM: gftp-2.0.8pre2-1mdk.src.rpm
| { > Size: 1142794
|
| [snip]
|
| { nice.  use this for my default ftp client all the time.  it's highly
| { configurable.
|
| I can't find this file on any mirror. The SRPMS directory contains Only
| the previous version (gftp-2.0.7b-2mdk).
|
| Denis
| ___
| Denis Pelletier
| Étudiant au doctorat
| sciences économiques, Université de Montreal

-- 
Love is an obsessive delusion that is cured by marriage.
-- Dr. Karl Bowman

[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] fsv-0.9-4mdk

[Eric MC D]

Ask for libgtk+ >= 1.2.1  = failed dependency
Have 1.2.8-11mdk installed !
???
Eric MC

On Monday 19 March 2001 15:00, you wrote:
| [Contrib-RPM]
|
| --=-=-=
| Name: fsv  Relocations: (not
| relocateable) Version : 0.9   Vendor:
| MandrakeSoft Release : 4mdk  Build Date: Mon
| Mar 19 14:46:12 2001 Install date: (not installed)   Build
| Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com Group   : File tools   
| Source RPM: (none)
| Size: 296835   License: LGPL
| Packager: Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| URL : http://fox.mit.edu/skunk/soft/fsv/
| Summary : fsv - 3D File System Visualizer
| Description :
| fsv (pronounced effessvee) is a file system visualizer in cyberspace. It
| lays out files and directories in three dimensions, geometrically
| representing the file system hierarchy to allow visual overview and
| analysis. fsv can visualize a modest home directory, a workstation's
| hard drive, or any arbitrarily large collection of files, limited only
| by the host computer's memory and hardware constraints.
|
| --=-=-=
|
| * Mon Mar 19 2001 Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9-4mdk
|
| - rebuild

-- 
Clear the laundromat!!  This whirl-o-matic just had a nuclear meltdown!!

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] initscripts-5.61.1-6mdk

[Eric MC D]

/etc/init.d/fontastic  (from photopaint) conflict with this package !
Eric MC

On Monday 19 March 2001 14:45, you wrote:
| --=-=-=
| Name: initscripts  Relocations: (not
| relocateable) Version : 5.61.1Vendor:
| MandrakeSoft Release : 6mdk  Build Date: Mon
| Mar 19 14:42:24 2001 Install date: (not installed)   Build
| Host: no.mandrakesoft.com Group   : System/Base  
| Source RPM: (none)
| Size: 405989   License: GPL
| Packager: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Summary : The inittab file and the /etc/init.d scripts.
| Description :
| The initscripts package contains the basic system scripts used to boot
| your Mandrake system, change run levels, and shut the system down
| cleanly. Initscripts also contains the scripts that activate and
| deactivate most network interfaces.
|
| --=-=-=
|
| * Mon Mar 19 2001 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| 5.61.1-6mdk
|
| - rc.d/rc.sysinit: Don't do any translation for the PS1 login or
|   it break sulogin and break the rescue file system.

-- 
Beauty:
What's in your eye when you have a bee in your hand.

[Cooker] gftp-2.0.8pre2-1mdk

[Eric MC D]

Uploaded latest gftp package as src.rpm

Name: gftp Relocations: /usr 
Version : 2.0.8pre2Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk Build Date: Sat Mar 17 14:49:43 2001
Install date: Sat Mar 17 14:53:50 2001  
Group   : Networking/File transfer  
Source RPM: gftp-2.0.8pre2-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 1142794  
License: GPL
Packager: Eric MC DECLERCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://gftp.seul.org/
Summary : Multithreaded FTP client for X Windows
Description :
gFTP is a multithreaded FTP client for X Windows written using Gtk. It features
simultaneous downloads, resuming of interrupted file transfers, file transfer
queues, downloading of entire directories, ftp proxy support, remote directory
caching, passive and non-passive file transfers, drag-n-drop, bookmarks menu,
stop button, and many more features.
* Fri Mar 16 2001 Eric MC DECLERCK2.0.8pre2
- Changes from gftp.seul.org :
- Changes from 2.0.8pre1 to 2.0.8pre2
- Fixed crash in bookmarks
- Added some more bookmarks
- Fixed crash with viewing files
- Fixed compile problem with operating systems that don't have getaddrinfo(3)
- Fixed bug with dragging a local file
- Fixed bug with file transfer timeout
- Removed unused variables from some structures
- Added overwrite by default option
- Fixed bug with keypad delete only letting you deleting one file
- Fixed bug with command line params not being passed from the gftp shell script to 
gftp-gtk12 and gftp-text
- Updated Korean translation

- Changes from 2.0.7b to 2.0.8pre1
- Separated all UI related functions from the non-UI related functions. Now have text 
port along with gtk+ 1.2 port
- Fixed format string security problem in logging of ftp and http responses
- Made chdir, rm, chmod, rename, etc all threaded operations. Now all network 
operations done in gftp should be
stopable from the gui interface
- Improved net core so it should detect better if the remote connection closed
- When you go to upload a file now via ftp, it'll no longer send a SIZE command for 
each file. It can also now detect
files that exist in subdirs and prompt you about those as well
- Fixed file corruption when files were transfered via ascii mode
- Added recursive directory deletes
- Can now reorder files that are being transfered
- If a file transfer is already going to one host, when you select more files to 
transfer they will automatically be
appended to the current transfer in progress instead of another transfer being made
- Added simplified Chinese and Italian translation
- Various other small bug fixes

Eric MC

-- 
If you fool around with something long enough, it will eventually break.

Re: [Cooker] Suggestion on included packages: Ksnuffle

[Eric MC D]

ksnuffle ...rpm needs XFree-4.0.2- and last freetype.
To run it on your mach. if you haven't it, download the scr file and 
recompile it.
Did it for me.
Eric MC

On Tuesday 13 March 2001 11:27, you wrote:
| "Claudio (sekko)" wrote:
| > Hi all!
| > I'm just having trouble on my LAN for some probable hackers. I'm trying
| > to solve the problem with the help of a sniffer, and I fould really nice
| > a program named "ksnuffle":
| >
| > http://www.quaking.demon.co.uk/ksnuffle.html
| >
| > It would be nice if some interested packager could include it in Mandrake
| > 8.0 or even in contribs...
|
| done ;-)
|
|   lenny

-- 
A person with one watch knows what time it is; a person with two watches is
never sure.   Proverb

Re: [Cooker] kde1-compat-devel

[Eric MC D]

On Tuesday 13 March 2001 12:50, you wrote:
| Eric MC D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > For the guys on cooker:
| > is there a way to install kde1-compat-devel AND qt-devel-1.44... ?
| > Kde1-compat-devel ask for qt-devel-1.44
| > and the 'moc' and 'libqt.so' conflicts between qt-devel-1.44 and
| > qt2-devel !
|
| In general, lib policy will permit to have several versions of a lib
| installed, but only one version of the corresponding devel version.
|
| That's because you'll often find includes in /usr/include/, that
| will conflict between versions. Not counting the -config script.

NO.
The includes don't conflict because they are installed on /usr/include/qt and 
the qt2 includes on /usr/include/qt2.
These includes are necessary to COMPILE older versions of kde.
Here the pb is that moc and liqt.so are also included in the qt-devel-1.44 
devel. Even in qt2-devel.
So I think the only way to solve this pb is to rebuild the rpm without the 
requires and moc, libqt.so to install it so that it can be seen by other 
packages where the requires needs qt-devel-1.44 .
Or am I wrong ?
Eric MC


-- 
Gomme's Laws:
(1) A backscratcher will always find new itches.
(2) Time accelerates.
(3) The weather at home improves as soon as you go away.

[Cooker] kde1-compat-devel

[Eric MC D]

For the guys on cooker:
is there a way to install kde1-compat-devel AND qt-devel-1.44... ?
Kde1-compat-devel ask for qt-devel-1.44
and the 'moc' and 'libqt.so' conflicts between qt-devel-1.44 and qt2-devel !
I mean WITHOUT the needs of --nodeps .
Use kde2.1-2 with mdk 7.2.
Eric MC


-- 
UFOs are for real: the Air Force doesn't exist.

Re: [Cooker] Flash in Konqueror?

[Eric MC D]

Since konqueror and kmail I use no more netscape.
The pb with konq is that it segfaults when loading /usr/bin/nspluginviewer.
Wihen tryng netscape there seems no pb.
Eric MC

On Sunday 11 March 2001 19:01, you wrote:
| Hmmm ! May have mislead there. I don't usually browse with konqueror. I
| tried again with konqueror from kdebase-2.1-6mdk, and it now just freezes
| solid at the first sign of a Flash movie ! I'm sure it did work :-(
|
| Sorry, events seem to have overtaken my knowledge (not uncommon !),
| Owen
|
| On Saturday 10 March 2001 11:32 am, you wrote:
| > I have ver.8 installed.
| > So how did you to run it in konqueror ?
| > Eric MC
| >
| > On Friday 09 March 2001 23:53, you wrote:
| > | Hello,
| > |
| > | RealPlayer is now supported by Real themselves. I down loaded RP 8 for
| > | Linux from www.real.com and it works just fine.
| > |
| > | Owen
| > |
| > | On Friday 09 March 2001  4:03 pm, you wrote:
| > | > Yes I do.
| > | > But no realplayer.
| > | > Eric MC
| > | >
| > | > On Thursday 08 March 2001 14:48, you wrote:
| > | > | Anybody was successful using Flash plugin in Konqueror? It is
| > | > | listed in plugins list, but attempt to look at site with flash
| > | > | gives empty screen.
| > | > |
| > | > | -andrej

-- 
"A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple
system that worked."
-- John Gall, _Systemantics_

Re: [Cooker] Flash in Konqueror?

[Eric MC D]

I have ver.8 installed.
So how did you to run it in konqueror ?
Eric MC

On Friday 09 March 2001 23:53, you wrote:
| Hello,
|
| RealPlayer is now supported by Real themselves. I down loaded RP 8 for
| Linux from www.real.com and it works just fine.
|
| Owen
|
| On Friday 09 March 2001  4:03 pm, you wrote:
| > Yes I do.
| > But no realplayer.
| > Eric MC
| >
| > On Thursday 08 March 2001 14:48, you wrote:
| > | Anybody was successful using Flash plugin in Konqueror? It is listed in
| > | plugins list, but attempt to look at site with flash gives empty
| > | screen.
| > |
| > | -andrej

-- 
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

Re: [Cooker] rapport install Mdk 8.0beta1 : dur, dur !

[Eric MC D]

Te fais pas de bile, c'est toujours le même allemand qui roespette.
Passe au <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> c'est plus convivial.
Eric MC


On Friday 09 March 2001 11:20, you wrote:
| So sprach COTINEAU Sylvain am Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:11:28PM +0100:
| > Hello,
| >
| > Ma config: PIII 700 320Mo RAM 2 Hd 8Go LVD sur carte SCSI Adaptec
| > AIC-7892 +
|
| And now everything in English again, please.  This is not the french expert
| mailing list.
|
| Alexander Skwar

-- 
Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
-- Alvy Ray Smith

Re: [Cooker] Fonts (suggestions)

[Eric MC D]

Thanks to Mattias !
Eric MC
On Friday 09 March 2001 05:36, you wrote:
| Hi!
|
| To save the MandrakeSoft developers some time finding good font settings
| for Cooker and the upcoming 8.0 I have some suggestions that, at least, get
| rid of the *unreadable* fonts appearing in KWrite and in some places in
| Konqueror.
|
| KControl->LookNFeel->Fonts:
|
| General: Helvetica 12
| Fixed: Adobe-Courier 12 (this is the most important one to change!)
| And the rest of the settings work nicely with Helvetica 12 as well.
|
| To prevent small and unreadable fonts in Konqueror you need to increase the
| value for "Minimun font size" in Configure Konqueror->Konqueror
| Browser->Appearance to at least 11, preferably 12. Check out the
| differences yourselves.
|
| I hope you take these suggestions under serious consideration. We want to
| make a good impression for users loading Linux-Mandrake 8.0 for the first
| time.
|
| Mattias

-- 
No problem is so formidable that you can't just walk away from it.
-- C. Schulz

[Cooker] Fwd: Re: [expert] Matrox G450 and Mandrake 8

[Eric MC D]

--  Forwarded Message  --
Subject: Re: [expert] Matrox G450 and Mandrake 8
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:01:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Anthony Moulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


There is a known issue with the Matrox G450 and Xfree86 4.0.2 (and 4.0.1 I
believe) where it activates the second header when going into X.  This
means that it outputs your display on port 2 instead of port 1.  The only
fix for this I have heard so far is to install the binary files from the
Matrox web site.  Do you install, but do not test X.  Complete everything
else.  Boot up into failsafe mode, copy the files over as directed and
then try starting X.  You should be all set.  I found that setting up my
G450 was very easy after downloading the updated drivers.  I even have DRI
support which makes watching DVDs and such much much nicer.

Good luck.

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN wrote:
> I just bought a Matrox G450. Works great in Win98. However I decided to
> reinstall Mandrake from 8 pre-beta  to 8 beta. When it was time to setup X,
> I chose 24 bit 1024x768, and XFree 4.02 3D with acceleration. When asked if
> I wanted to test X I chose yes, and the monitor went off. After 10 minutes
> I just decided to reboot. The boot disk wont work "unable to mount root
> fs".  Any help with the Matrox Card?
>
>
> Brian D. Klar - CVE
> OTS
> WPAFB
> (937) 656-2861
> (937) 973-3125 (pager)

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Re: [Cooker] Flash in Konqueror?

[Eric MC D]

Yes I do.
But no realplayer.
Eric MC

On Thursday 08 March 2001 14:48, you wrote:
| Anybody was successful using Flash plugin in Konqueror? It is listed in
| plugins list, but attempt to look at site with flash gives empty screen.
|
| -andrej

-- 
At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his
thumb with a hammer.
-- Marshall Lumsden

[Cooker] Cups

[Eric MC D]

Has read the doc about CUPS and did an install of CUPS
as said.
(doc Cups and CUPS News (2))

After the install I couldn't print anything, kwrite, kedit, staroffice51, 
etc...  Only the test page of course.

So after many try's I decided to UNINSTALL all of CUPS.

Now, nothing changed;  can no more print at all.

When tryng to do a printer-install with printerdrake he's looking for the 
cups-drivers and stops. 
Can't install the cups-drivers without installing cups.

Do any one have this pb ? And how to resove it ?
Thanks
Eric MC


-- 
Fried's 1st Rule:
Increased automation of clerical function
invariably results in increased operational costs.

RE: [Cooker] bashprompts

[Eric MC D.]

On 04-Mar-01 Shalrath wrote:
| Greetings.   I recently began toying around with my bash prompt and
| color, 
| going from the information found here:
| 
| http://www2.linuxjournal.com/lj-issues/issue64/3215.html
| 
| I would like to edit /etc/bashrc in such a way that root's bash
| prompt showed 
| up as bright red, while my user accounts would be a light cyan.  
| 
| Nevermind,  mission accomplished.  
| 
| under /etc/profile, I changed
| 
|#PS1="[\u@\h \W]\\$ "


PS1="\[\033[1;36m\][\u@\h \w]\\$ "

Works for me ! (without the rest of it)


| 
| and under /root/.bashrc,  I added
| 
| PS1="\[\033[1;31m\][\u@\h \w]\\$\[\033[0;37m\] "
| 
| 
| This seems to work so far.  
| 
| Can anyone think of a more elegant way to do this?
| Could this be considered to be added to Mandrake?
| 
| Jason Marsh

----------
Eric MC
E-Mail: Eric MC D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04-Mar-01   Time: 14:04:34
RLU#165727
I trust the first lion he meets will do his duty.
-- J.P. Morgan on Teddy Roosevelt's safari

--

Re: [Cooker] [RPM] perl-5.600-28mdk

[Eric MC D.]

It's coming a really bord... (French spoken) with all
these splittings as lib..., ..0 or ...7, etc..
without any advertising !!
I suggest making a separate dir on mandrake-devel 
for libs or others needed by older progs or for individual
comfort.
WITH a README file.

On 03-Mar-01 Alexander Skwar wrote:
| So sprach Pixel am Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:23:10PM +0100:
|> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|> 
|> > - Removed CGI.pm from package - newer version is in a seperate
|> > package now!
|> 
|> why such a split? (such split are bad for upgrades when not using
|> DrakX nor
|> urpmi --auto-select :-/)
| 
| I needed a newer version of CGI.pm for a tool that I'm using.  Now,
| CGI.pm  
| is part of the standard perl distribution, but it's also available
| seperately, so that's why I decided to make a seperate package out of
| it.
|   
| Or are you rather suggesting that I should have integrated the newer
| CGI.pm
| into the main perl package?
| 
| Alexander Skwar
| -- 
| How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to
| (english)
| Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com   |  
http://www.iso-top.de
|iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen
|   Uptime: 0 hours 56 minutes

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Eric MC
E-Mail: Eric MC D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03-Mar-01   Time: 15:04:33
RLU#165727
The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday, but never jam today.
-- Lewis Carroll

--

[Cooker] ISDNINFO and ...

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Is there someone know where are passed the
files 'isdninfo' and ... with the new
isdn4k-utils ??
Eric MC 

RE: [Cooker] XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.i586.rpm

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Have you XFree86-4.x.x installed ?
If so I think you can delete /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL. safely.
In case off: saved it to another place en try.
Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jean Meloche
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> 
> On Saturday 13 January 2001 08:50, you wrote:
> > John Cavan wrote:
> > > uli wrote:
> > > > But there is still a problem with hardware acceleration of 
> my ATI Rage
> > > > 128. Since kernel-2.4.0-1 /var/log/XFree86.0.log  says 
> "(II) R128(0):
> > > > Direct rendering enabled ". But  XFree86-libs-4.0.2-4mdk 
> seems  not to
> > > > deliver the right libGL.so.1.2. All programs that use this lib stop
> > > > with the note "Loading required GL library 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
> > > > ", then nothing happens. Of course I may use the Mesa-libs 
> by linking
> > > > the libGL.so.1.2  to the Mesa-lib, but that's not what I what.
> > >
> > > Which Mesa RPMS do you have installed?
> >
> > I have installed Mesa-3.4-7mdk.
> 
> I have the exact same problem. I have the following installed
> 
> [jean@rocks jean]$ rpm -qa | grep -i mesa
> Mesa-common-devel-3.4-7mdk
> Mesa-demos-3.4-7mdk
> Mesa-common-3.4-7mdk
> xmms-mesa-1.2.4-3mdk
> 
> [jean@rocks jean]$ rpm -qa | grep -i XFree86 | grep 4.0
> XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-xfs-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-glide-module-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-libs-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-static-libs-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-doc-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-Xnest-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-server-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-devel-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk
> XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.2-4mdk
> 
> 
> I checked that /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 can be provided by both
> XFree86-libs-4.0.2-4mdk and Mesa-3.4-7mdk.i586.rpm. Whether or
> not Mesa-3.4-7mdk.i586.rpm is installed, the same problem happens.
> 
> With the libGL from Xfree86-libs, an strace on gears gives
> 
> 
> 
> rt_sigaction(SIGILL, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> rt_sigaction(SIGFPE, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> rt_sigaction(SIGILL, {0x4022f070, [ILL], SA_RESTART|0x400},
>   {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> rt_sigaction(SIGFPE, {0x4022f070, [FPE], SA_RESTART|0x400},
>   {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> --- SIGILL (Illegal instruction) ---
> sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
> --- SIGILL (Illegal instruction) ---
> sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
> ...
> 
> with illegal instruction forever.
> 
> 
> With the libGL from Mesa, you will get the following strace:
> 
> rt_sigaction(SIGILL, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> rt_sigaction(SIGFPE, NULL, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> rt_sigaction(SIGILL, {0x401e8070, [ILL], SA_RESTART|0x400},
> {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> rt_sigaction(SIGFPE, {0x401e8070, [FPE], SA_RESTART|0x400},
> {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
> --- SIGILL (Illegal instruction) ---
> sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
> --- SIGILL (Illegal instruction) ---
> sigreturn() = ? (mask now [])
> 
> with illegal instruation forever.
> 
> 

Re: [Cooker] ...JAVA IDE under Mandrake - self reply

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Serge Lussier wrote:
> 
> Ok,
> I couldn't wait for help.
> I downloaded JDK 1.3 from sun. installed it and
> everything is ok now.  - Very easy to install by the way.
> Sorry for the disturbing.
> 
> Serge Lussier
How you did it ???

Re: [Cooker] CUPS and XPP in Mandrake

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi all on the list,
I setted-up this fabumous program, withe
the help of Till.
It runs perfectly, better than before
with the original
configuration.
I recommend it to all.
Thanks to Till.
Eric

Till Kamppeter wrote:
> 
> Oi,
> 
> I have been on the Linuxtag 2000 in Stuttgart and have presented my free
> software project "X Printing Panel"
> (http://www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/). On the fair I have also
> talked with Stefan Siegel about it and he liked it an recomended to post
> the suggestion to put it into Mandrake onto the Cooker list.
> 
> In reality I suggest to include not only my software. The first one is
> CUPS (www.cups.org) which is a free (GPL) new printing daemon which
> replaces the old LPD which is technology of the '70s. The advantages of
> CUPS are:
> 
>  - Broadcasting: If you configure a printer on one machine, it is
> automatically known on all machines of the network (which machines is
> configurable on the server where the printer is configured.
> 
>  - Printer classes: If one configures the same physical printer on
> several machines, it is accessible even when only one of the machines is
> running and if one defines a class of a group of printers only one
> printer must be working so that the printout will come out.
> 
>  - Printing options: This is the most interesting point. Under CUPS all
> options of sophisticated printers (trays, resolutions, duplex, color and
> even things as folders or staplers) are available as they were defined
> by the manufacturer of the printer. So no proprietary software is
> necessary any more for making use of all features of a printer.
> 
>  - Easy administration: all administration can be done by a WWW
> interface. There is also a KDE administration program called KUPS, see
> www.linuxprinting.org.
> 
>  - Accounting and Authentification: All printed pages get logged and one
> can reserve printers only for a special part of all users.
> 
> To get additional printer drivers one simply can go to
> 
>www.linuxprinting.org
> 
> or
> 
>http://www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/
> 
> and follow the links.
> 
> The part I have done is making an easy-to-use graphical frontend for
> CUPS which one uses for printing instead of "lp" or "lpr". It allows
> easy choosing of the desired printer and the options for the printout.
> All options and the default printer can be saved so that every user can
> have his personal options and one does not need to adjust them for every
> printout. The
> program is downloadable under
> 
>http://www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/
> 
> I think, including this software makes printing under mandrake really
> much more comfortable and it offers possibilties which had not been
> available for free software before,
> 
>Till

Re: [Cooker] CUPS and XPP in Mandrake

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hello Till,
I downloaded CUPS, FLTP and XPP.
After install (with CUPS there is a
dependency pb with
lpr, printtool and rhs-printfilters =
lpr, lprm, and lp...)
Did the install.
Window of xpp came up bute after
clicking on
'options' to select a printer, xpp get
away (stops).
What did I wrong ?
My printer: HP Deskjet 815C same as
810C.
Thanks for advice.
Eric
Till Kamppeter wrote:
> 
> There are also a lot of free drivers, in principle one can derive a CUPS
> driver from any GS based printer driver for LPD and native PostScript
> printers are supported through the PPD file provided by the printer
> manufacturer.
> 
> For driver generation, download and building instructions check the
> links on the pages
> 
>www.linuxprinting.org
>www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/
> 
> The first link contains a huge printer database. So most printers are
> supported by free software. There are only a few printers which require
> proprietary software to work, but these do not work well under LPD, too.
> And all the way, CUPS and LPD can coexist. I can send instructions how
> to do it.
> 
>Till
> 
> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> >
> > The additional printer drivers are not free software, isn't it?
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume Cottenceau

Re: [Cooker] Swap problems with kernel 2.2.17-0.5

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

There are also connection pbs to the
internet
with ISDN.
Eric
Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> 
> It seems last kernel has problems with swapping when facing heavy file
> transfer duties (gnutella & gnapster running at the same time) :
> Jul  1 20:01:08 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for
> kswapd...
> Jul  1 20:02:20 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for
> kswapd...
> Jul  1 20:02:40 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for
> kswapd...
> Jul  1 20:02:55 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for X...
> Jul  1 20:02:55 agathe kernel: VM: terminating process X
> 
> Reverting to 2.2.16 solved this
> --
> Guillaume Rousse
> Iremia - Université de la Réunion
> 
> Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.2.17-0.2mdk

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> 
> Eric MC DECLERCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > be carrefull, this version is not **stable** if you want to test keep
> > > in mind it's beta.
> > YES, IT IS !!
> 
> gosh i like detailled bug reports.
> 
> --
> MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com
> San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel
Hi Chmouel,
j'ai pas plus de détails en ce moment!
J'ai toujours 3 kernels dont je peut
choisir lors du boot.
Le dernier étant la 2.2.17-0.5.
Celui-ci, pour une raison que je connais
pas encore
freeze ma connection à internet (isdn).
Ceci était suffisant pour ne plus
l'utiliser de suite
car ici internet est utilisé presque
constamment.
J'ai pas de station rien que pour faire
des expériences.
Je verrais ce week-end ce qui ce passe
exactement.
Eric
PS: tu peux me donner des détails
comment updater
initscripts, modutils et setup sans
faire de gaffe ?

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.2.17-0.2mdk

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> 
> Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > --=-=-=
> > Name: kernel   Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > Version : 2.2.17Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> > Release : 0.2mdkBuild Date: Wed Jun 28 17:56:34 2000
> 
> be carrefull, this version is not **stable** if you want to test keep
> in mind it's beta.
> 
> --
> MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com
> San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel
YES, IT IS !!

Re: [Cooker] bash-2.04-8mdk breaks the system

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi, 
I had this pb too.
Did an update with my CD but didn't help when restoring the
old bash and readline.
Could boot with a rescue disk but all access to mount points
are very limited and couldn't set any links.
Found and did not receive a good answer to solve this pb.
So was forced to a reinstall .
Hope you get a better answer than me .
Eric

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> After I installed bash-2.04-8mdk on my Mandrake 7.1 system, I was no longer
> able to boot.  I always ended up with these error messages during boot:
> 
> [...]
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 72k freed
> INIT: version 2.78 booting
> sh: error in loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.4.1: cannot open shared object 
>file: No such file or directory
> INIT: entering runlevel 5
> bash: error in loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.4.1: cannot open shared 
>object file: No such file or directory
> sh: error in loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.4.1: cannot open shared object 
>file: No such file or directory
> (the last line appears about 10 times on the screen)
> 
> [...]
> INIT: Id "{x,1,2,3,4,6,5}" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> (to be honest, I get 7 lines with 'Id "x"', 'Id "1"' etc.)
> INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
> 
> libreadline.so.4.1 is in /usr/lib, and I haven't touched it; I only upgraded
> bash-2.04-3mdk to bash-2.04-8mdk.  After I downgraded the bash again, I was
> able to boot.
> 
> Alexander Skwar
> --
> Homepage:   http://www.digitalprojects.com
> Sichere Mail?   PGP/GnuPG Keys als Antwort auf Mail mit Betr: Get GPG Key
> ICQ:7328191

Re: [Cooker] Favorite calendar program?

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> 
> Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Can anybody recommend a good calendar program?  (preferably included in
> > linux-mandrake :))
> 
> i use M-x calendar from emacs and i can even sync-up it with my
> PalmPilot.
> 
> --
> MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com
> San Diego, CA USA  --Chmouel
An individual package without starting xemacs ??
Eric

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> 
> > > > > > pygnome
> > > > > > pygtk
> > > > > > python
> > > > > > python-devel
> > > > > > pythonlib
> > > > > > rpm-devel
> > > > > > tkinter
> >
> > > > > yuck.
> > > > ah... if it's a one-time-thing then it's no problem.
> > > > I wouldn't like to see people flip-flopping from /usr/lib
> > > > to /lib and back to /usr/lib a few times...
> >
> > > umm, recompile with symlinks in /usr/lib ? ;)
> >
> > go ahead... ;-)
> >
> > Hmmm... things are getting ugly.
> >
> > I'm in the process of recompiling the packages above, and the
> > results are not nice. They compile fine, but when you try to
> > install them:
> >
> > rpm -Uvh guile-*
> > error: failed dependencies:
> > libreadline.so.4.1 is needed by guile-1.3.4-3mdk
> >
> > and this is for all of them.
> >
> > Maybe I'm st*p*d or terribly dumb, but my impression is that
> > this is looking 'ugly'.
> >
> 
> can you create the symlinks in the readline spec spec and ercompile to see
> what happens?? this might fix stuff. i.e. symlinks in /usr/lib.
> 
> please please please, no one should move readline back to /usr/lib just
> because a whole bunch of shit si complaining ...
> 
> i awnt to take a look now but i'm tired ...
Hi,
Someone heart about 'Linux Filesystem Structure' ??
It's somewhat outdated (1995) I now, but it's the only way
for everyone
to know WHERE FILES STAYED and MUST STAYING !
So let us follow that.
Now there is already a difference between distributions, so
if will
Mandrake go this way up also ??
Eric

RE: [Cooker] bash-2.04-4mdk problems

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Thanks JWD !
you helped me out of distress.
Eric MC

> -Original Message-
> From: jwd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] bash-2.04-4mdk problems
>
>
> I put in my install disk and typed rescue.
> then I did:
>   my / is on /dev/hda1
>   my /usr is on /dev/hda5
> So ...
>   mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt
>   mount -t ext2 /dev/hda5 /mnt/usr
>   cp -a /mnt/usr/lib/libreadline.so.4.1 /mnt/lib/
>   cp -a /mnt/usr/lib/libhistory.so.4.1 /mnt/lib/
>   shutdown -r now
>
> Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> >
> > What did you exactly to run linux again ??
> > I installed it to and now can't reboot no more.
> > INIT say's 'sh: error in loading shared libraries : readline so.4.1 :
> > cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory.
> > I acn only run linux with the rescue disk = very little possibilities.
> > Eric
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: jwd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:46 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Cooker] bash-2.04-4mdk problems
> > >
> > >
> > > bash-2.04-4mdk problems
> > >
> > > Running an ldd against /bin/bash yields =>
> > >   libreadline.so.4.1 => /usr/lib/libreadline.so.4.1
> > >   libhistory.so.4.1 => /usr/lib/libhisttory.so.4.1
> > >
> > > I don't know about any one else but my /usr is on a second
> partition.  I
> > > had to copy both of these files from /us/lib to /lib to get the latest
> > > cooker to startup.
> > >
> > > bash-2.04-4mdk has a build date of 05 June 2000 and Chmouel
> is listed as
> > > the packager.
> > >
> > > jim drash
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
>
>

RE: [Cooker] bash-2.04-4mdk problems

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

What did you exactly to run linux again ??
I installed it to and now can't reboot no more.
INIT say's 'sh: error in loading shared libraries : readline so.4.1 :
cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory.
I acn only run linux with the rescue disk = very little possibilities.
Eric

> -Original Message-
> From: jwd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] bash-2.04-4mdk problems
> 
> 
> bash-2.04-4mdk problems
> 
> Running an ldd against /bin/bash yields =>
>   libreadline.so.4.1 => /usr/lib/libreadline.so.4.1
>   libhistory.so.4.1 => /usr/lib/libhisttory.so.4.1
> 
> I don't know about any one else but my /usr is on a second partition.  I
> had to copy both of these files from /us/lib to /lib to get the latest
> cooker to startup.
> 
> bash-2.04-4mdk has a build date of 05 June 2000 and Chmouel is listed as
> the packager.
> 
> jim drash
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 

[Cooker] bash problem ?

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Hi,
Have installed the NEW bash-.. and readline-. and
readline-devel-
Also bash1-...
Don't remember wath version, but the lasts from cooker.

So, can't reboot the system.
Says:
sh:error in loading shared libraries : readline.so.4.1 : cannot open shared
object file :
no such file or directory.

By the install with kpackage and 'check dependency' enabled, there were no
errors !

Did an upgrade to reinstall the original (7) bash and readline packages, but
can only select the bash1 and readline, no bash found when in 'upgrade'
but on the CD.

init-version 2.77 is booting.

Did a copy of the downloaded RPMS on a zip disk before shutdown.

Sorry, no rescue disk.

What can I do without doing a complete reupdate or reinstall ?
Eric

Re: [Cooker] Kernel release version & login screen (uname -r)

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Anton Graham wrote:
> 
> Submitted 31-May-00 by Brian Fleischman:
> | I have updated the kernel 3 times in the last week.  Initially started
> | with -9mdksmp, now I am at -12mdksmp.  The problem I have is the login
> | page and uname -r always display the -9 kernel version.  Why?  Where is
> | this information kept so I can update it?  I have reconfigured
> | /boot...System.map linked to -12 System.map, etc.  I have a separate
> | problem with updating MBR with lilo (previous post).  How does
> | /etc/issue get created to display on the login screen and where does
> | uname -r get its info?  /proc reflects the -9 kernel also.  Am I
> | actually still loading the -9 kernel?
> 
> I would say yes.  In your /boot directory, you will likely find that
> the vmlinuz symlink still points at vmlinuz-2.2.15-9mdksmp.  The
> install-kernel script does not seem to automatically update this
> consistently.
> 
> --
>_
>  _|_|_
>   ( )   *Anton Graham
>   /v\  / <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> /(   )X
>  (m_m)   GPG ID: 18F78541
> Penguin Powered!
I suppose your kernel is installed
correctly ??
Like this:(in /usr/src/linux)
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules install  (after rename your
/lib/modules to /lib/modules.old)

then:
cp
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage 
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.15-xxmdk
(where xx is the EXTRAVERSION-nbr)
cp /usr/src/linux/System.map  
/boot/System.map-2.2.15-xxmdk
rm /boot/System.map
ln -s /boot/System.map-2.2.15-xxmdk  
/boot/System.map

Then change in   /etc/lilo.conf  :
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.15-xxmdk

At last: (if lilo is used)
type in console or xterm : lilo

And of course rebout your system.(be
carfull, have a rescue-disk)

If you did it and the pb persist, take a
look at your Makefile in
the linux dir and see if the
EXTRAVERSION= -xxmdk

Eric


-- 
FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt
you)

Re: [Cooker] bug avec la Mandrake 7.0

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Roger Espel Llima wrote:
> 
> pour information, j'ai eu des gros problèmes avec le package "msec" de
> la Mandrake 7.0.  voici en gros ce qui m'est arrivé:
> 
> je lis la doc de msec, je tente "custom"; le script me pose quelques
> questions, puis plante avec un "file not found".  petit tour dans le
> source (c'est du sh), et on trouve la ligne:
> 
> tmpfile=`mktemp tmp/secure.XX`
> 
> bon, je rajoute le / qui manque, et apres quelques tentatives, je
> confiture mon niveau de sécurité.  peu après, cron commence à me spammer
> avec des find qui ratent, des messages d'erreur ou de debug, au rythme
> d'une dizaine par heure (désolé, je les ai effacés, sinon j'en enverrais
> bien une copie...).  je blaste quelques crontabs, je kille tous les
> 'find' qui tournent, et c'est bon.
> 
> quelques heures plus tard, je vais partir, et "shutdown -h" se plante.
> j'éteins par l'interrupteur.
> 
> ce matin, au boot, al machine me demande "enter runlevel", puis sort
> "INIT: entering runlevel 3", "INIT: no more processes in this runlevel",
> et en reste là.  heureusement, un "linux single" depuis LILO me donne un
> shell.  après quelques tentatives et plein de "e2fsck /dev/hda5" et
> "mount / -o remount -rw" et autres joyausetés, un effacement sauvage
> puis réinstallation des RPM "initscripts" et "SysVinit", et c'est bon.
> il ne me reste plus qu'à remettre mes customisations de /etc/rc.d/*
> depuis une copie d'/etc avant les changements.
> 
> je ne sais pas si la disparition du contenu de /etc/inittab a
> quelque-chose à voir avec mes tentatives de faire marcher msec, ou si
> c'est une coincidence, mais en tout cas, ce morceau-là de configuration
> est particulièrement instable.
> 
> si des scripts appelés par msec font des modifs à des fichiers critiques
> comme /etc/inittab, je suggèrerais d'écrire la version modifiée sous un
> autre nom, pour ensuite faire un
> rename("/etc/inittab.tmp","/etc/inittab").
> 
> franchement, je suis assez content de la mandrake en général, mais ce
> "msec" est vraiment ridiculement buggé.
> 
> --
> Roger Espel Llima, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.iagora.com/~espel/index.html
De mon cote pas de probleme avec la 7+.
Et la msec est installee sans pb.
Qu'est-ce qui tes arrive ?
Eric

Re: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Denis HAVLIK wrote:
> 

> 1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the
> future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things
> need polishing...
> 
> 4) tools:  which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or
>  improve in case we are already developing them? Many great
> programs already  exist out there, so we really badly need to know
> which important linux tools you still miss, in order to
> concentrate on them in the future.
> 
An icon to display the user who's
actually operate the machine he's
working on.
Ex. the only way to see id you are
logged-in as user or as root 
(in X) is the prompt in xterm.
An icon on the bottom-right (near the
clock) displaying the user name
(root, user-name) were very helpfull.
Eric

> (If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a
> discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly)
> 
> 
> I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing
> lists during next two weeks. Guillaume  will do the same on the
> "cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take
> part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in
> (and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting).
> 
> At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a
> resume of what has been decided and share it with you.
> 
> yours
> Denis Havlik
> --
> -
> Dr. Denis Havlik
> Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> ---oOO--(_)--OOo-

-- 
FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt
you)

Re: [Cooker] BETA 3 ISO ?

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Serge Lussier wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I see directory named 'newbeta' in
> > ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/
> >
> > I can't go into this folder (Permission denied)
> >
> > Are there *.iso files ?
> >
> > 
> > This message was sent from iTi WebMail gateway.
> 
> he!
> if you did "ls -l" from the above position
> you could have seen that there is access permission
> for the owner (root) only :-))
Nothing todo with permissions !!
It's seems the link points to nothing.
Eric
-- 
FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt
you)

Re: [Cooker] BETA3 is available for download on the mirrors

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

I've lokked at ftp.free.fr.
The mandrake.  links don't respond
!!
Nothing to do with permissions.
Eric

Serge Lussier wrote:
> 
> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> 
> > Hi out,
> >
> > Finally! We got it! :-))
> >
> > Okay, I just verified on free.fr and tucows.com, the beta3 is available on
> > the mirrors.
> >
> > This version is closer than never to the future stable release. It should
> > contain less bugs than never. Please feel free to download and test if you
> > have time and bandwidth! :-)
> >
> > At that time, we will concentrate on testing the 7.1, and the ports to
> > other architecture such as Alpha, Sparc32 and 64, and ppc.
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume Cottenceau
> 
> Merci Guillaume. I am right now downloading
> the iso files from free.fr .:-)
> 
> joke Notes:
> (sorry if I look stupid - my brain is exhausted -
> I'm computing since the last 13 hours! )
> 
> The wire in the ocean between north-America and europe
> must make the water boiling 'cause there is so much network busy-lag !
> hehehe
> Current bandwidth on free.fr: 67.77 kB/s with lag.
> tucows.com : never give more than 50 KB/s.

-- 
FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt
you)

Re: [Cooker] pb i810 sous hydrigene beta2

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

C'est excellent une partition étendue,
en plus c'est la seule que tu puisse
faire (1 par hd).
Cela te permet des ajustement futurs et
une réserve.
Personnellement je crée seulement les
stricte nécessaires primaires
(et le swap bienentendu)
rien de tel que fdisk et diskdruid!(pour
ma part, diskdrakejamais
essayé.)
Eric

David Rousseau wrote:
> 
> Salut les gars de chez mandrake,
> tout d'abord félicitation ça s'annonce très bien la 7.1 (reiserfs
> excellent)
> J'ai eu un pb avec un compaq en i810 coté graphique et son.
> La distrib a reconnu impec la partie son (épaté)
> Coté serveur X, le SVGA a été installé et X refusait de se lancer
> spécifiant que le chipset Intet i810 generic n'était pas trouvé.
> Après installation du serveur  de PrecisionInsight XFCom_i810 et
> modification du XF86Config pas de pb.
> A noter que si je n'utilise pas le module agpgart pré-compilé par vos
> soin ça marche pas. Je veux dire par là que si je recompile le paquet
> source du module rpm --rebuild ça roule mais le module en question me
> produit un kernel oops, bizzare parcequ'il se charge pourtant mais x ne
> se lance pas.
> 
> Je voudrais faire une remarque concernant diskdrake. Il se trouve qu'il
> n'est pas évident de créer une partition ext2 ou reiserfs en primaire et
> non lecteur logique. J'entends par là que diskdrake veut absolument
> créer une partition étendue. Pourquoi ne pas mettre une option primaire
> ou logique comme sous fdisk et diskdruid.

Re: [Cooker] hdparm

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Try http://www.linuxforum.com/plug/
Then select 'articles' on the head of
the page.
Then select 'Need For Speed' in the
text.
Read man hdparm !!!
Eric

Hoyt wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Magnus Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] hdparm
> 
> > >
> > >
> > > You might want to check out Need For Speed at
> > > http://www.linuxforum.com/plug/articles
> >
> > I like to but: the page can't be found.
> >
> 
> try .org insread of .com - don't know why they changed it - gr.
> 
> Hoyt

Re: [Cooker] LS120s and IDE CD-RW's

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

That's an idendification error.
Had the same ident. but I known it was NOT an scsi !!
It works fine before ? So disable your scsi. 
Eric

root wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I was wondering if anyone could helpI can't get my LS-120 drive to
> work in my system after I enable ide-scsi for my ATAPI CD-RW (it's an HP
> CD-Writer +).  The LS-120 works fine before the ide-scsi is enabled,
> but once enabled it identifies the drive as a SCSI device (/dev/sda
> instead of /dev/hdd) and gives me an I/O error when I've tried to mount
> it.
> Otherwise, I've had a GREAT experience with 7.0...thanks for all the
> hard work!!!

Re: [Cooker] Another partitioning related problem

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Steve,
you can try:
setup with fdisk: (all linux)..druid mount points..
1st primary...32M.../boot
2d   prim.(min 2 x RAM).swap
3d   prim..(?? G) ../
1 LINUX EXTENDED (not 5, see the linux extended nbr)
Extended partition:
/usr
/usr/local
/home
Eric


Steve Bergman wrote:
> 
> ]Hi,
> 
> I have posted about a problem with mkswap on extended partitions.  This is
> a different problem on the same machine, but using a diffrerent hard
> drive.
> 
> I have a 27GB IDE drive which is partitioned thusly:
> 
> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3322 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
> 
>Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
> /dev/hda1   * 138305203+  83  Linux
> /dev/hda239   293   2048287+  83  Linux
> /dev/hda3   430  3322  232379915  Extended
> /dev/hda5   481  3027  20458746   83  Linux
> /dev/hda6   430   480409626   82  Linux swap
> 
> fdisk has no problems with it and I don't think that disk druid does
> either but I'm not absolutely certain.  Mandrake 7.0, 7.1beta1, and
> 7.1beta2 all take one look at it and say that the "partition table is too
> corrupted for me' and then says that it will start deleteing bad
> partitions.  What I end up with is all partitions shown as unallocated.
> If I click on the option to try to recover partition table (this is all
> from memory so my terminology may not be exact.  Sorry.)  I just sits and
> the drive "click click, click click's forever.  Any ideas on this?  I'd
> like to install on this disk.
> 
> Disk is set for LBA and is a UDMA66 running on a UDMA33 controller.
> Motherboard is VIA based with a K63-400 and 128MB.  This is the only disk
> on the system.
> 
> -Steve

Re: [Cooker] text mode installer

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

"Alexander V. Voinov" wrote:
> 
> Eric MC DECLERCK wrote:
> 
> > > I tried the text-mode one. I see however that it lacks some
> > > functionality of the former. E.g. in the expert mode the individual
> > > package selection became impossible, it also seems to ignore my
> > > 'large-scale' selection.
> > >
> > > Alexander
> > Select 'Customer' mode. (the best way todo what you want)
> 
> What do you mean? The option "Customized" as opposed to "Expert", or
> something else?
> 
> Alexander
Ok,
insert your floppy with the TEXT-MODE installer.
Do NOT choice EXPERT mode !( press only the ENTER key).
After CDROM initialisation select INSTALL.
Then select CUSTOM !!
There you can select any package individually but select 'select
individual packages' 
or somewhat like that (I can't remember).
Then ENTER and you get a new screen with ALL the packages and a F1 key
for help on it.
Select the beeded ones with the spacebar.
Eric

Re: [Cooker] text mode installer

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

"Alexander V. Voinov" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My eyes quickly get tired of the videomode of the graphic installer, so
> I tried the text-mode one. I see however that it lacks some
> functionality of the former. E.g. in the expert mode the individual
> package selection became impossible, it also seems to ignore my
> 'large-scale' selection.
> 
> Alexander
Select 'Customer' mode. (the best way todo what you want)
Eric

Re: [Cooker] xinitrc and kernel packages

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> 
> "Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On the same topic, I did an "everything" install of 7.0 and wound up
> > with the Linus kernel as the default.
> 
> pixel ? i guess is corrected for 7.1
> 
> --
> MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com
> San-Diego, CA USA.--Chmouel
Not only he wound up with the Linus kernel, but all kernel types are
installed.
There is no choice between the kernel types.
Eric

Re: [Cooker] Suggestions...

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

Bill & Lea Greenwood wrote:
> 
> Hey Pixel- I would appreciate that you didn't answer my mails anymore.
> Do you really think you know everything??  Many of us are not programmers,
> but know a great deal about beta testing, as well as other things in life.
> I was under the assumption that Mandrake wanted this all tested, and our
> suggestions put forth.  If this is not the case, then please let me know and
> I will gladly unsub-scribe.  I perceive you as an arrogant programmer with
> no public skills.
> 
> Did you really check out suggestions 1 and 2?  The rpmslist doesn't say
> which CD the rpms go on.  And drakboot doesn't have the MakeBootDisk button
> on it (unless I'm blind, in which case my humblest apologies).
> 
> I would also suggest someone replace the stars on the progress bar of the
> installer with small rectangles no taller than the text.  The stars really
> cheapen the installer (IMHO), and little colored rectangles would be much
> more professional, and would give more room for text and it would make it
> look not so crowded.
> 
> Again, I would appreciate someone other than a programmer answer my mails.
> Someone with some tact, and that will not put-down the humble beta testers,
> new or not.  I suggest Mandrake appoint one person with these public skills
> to act as an intermediary between the programmers and the Cooker list.
> Especially for suggestions vs. bugs.
> 
> -Bill
> 
> =
> 
> > 1)  Would it be possible to divide up the RPMs to the 2 different
> > directories (RPMS vs. RPMS2) for the two different CDs on all the Cooker
> > mirror sites?  This would be a BIG HELP in keeping them up to date.
> 
> the list is (now) in Mandrake/base/rpmslist
> 
> >
> > 2)  A MakeBootDisk button on the DrakConfig control panel would be handy.
> 
> there is via drakboot
> 
> >
> > 3)  On the installer:  I suggest that on the first section when we are
> > talking about SCSI, that the first question should be:  Do you have any
> SCSI
> > devices   then if not, then skip this section completely.  If you do then
> > ask the next question:  Do you want to search for (SCSI) devices   then
> > continue from that point.
> 
> it seems to be a good idea. I must be look at what it could break though :-/
> (very frozen here!)
DO NOT USE DRAK for the installation !
Use the TEX install.
I now, contribs made it (some) easier to install (and others) for the
new user,
but when we pay for it --- do it GOOD.
Eric

RE: [Cooker] Distribution Style

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

By my mind rpmdrake need internet connection ??
So what if updates or installs are necessary with the CD ?
Eric

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Distribution Style
>
>
>
> First, there isn't a need to make these into a single package; you just
> need for the dependencies to get resolved as done by rpmdrake already
> (but not by kpackage).
>
> Second, the general idea of having a less overwhelming "basic"
> distirubtion to start is good, but make the kitchen sink available.
>
> I personally think that a look at Caldera OpenLinux is a pretty
> good model of how to do a user-friendly install.
>
> But I still want to be *able* to select packages at install time.
>
> AND (this is big . . )
>
> I should be able select packages the *same* way at install time and
> afterwards.  The install-time package installer lets you select
> multiple packages and resolves all dependencies, but I can't find
> anything after I install that does this:
>
> - kpackage allows multiple selection but doesn't resolve dependencies;
> - rpmdrake resolves dependencies but doesn't allow multiple selection.
>
> And I find both of them unnecessarily awkward in terms of "just
> finding" my cdrom packages, though that may be my own fault due to
> customization I've done.
>
>
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote:
> | I agree with you.. for instance what does joe computer user want with
> | sendmail for instance since he most likely is used to use his isp's
> | mailserver as smtp server..
> |
> | I hate to say this.. but take a look at windows and see what is
> installed at
> | the start.. very little infact..
> |
> | It would be alot cooler to have a nice menu some OBVIOUS place
> where all the
> | packages that can be installed is listed. And there should be 2
> levels of
> | that menu aswell (atleast) so you would have to select like
> advanced to get
> | to all the packages.
> |
> | As I see it now it is a bit too hard to get hold of the packages after I
> | install my system. (I am speaking of joe computer user here
> mind you :). And
> | I think the descriptions should be even more informative than
> they are. The
> | description should be worked out with an enduser and not merely
> by us geeks.
> |
> | Almost no joe computer user will ever want any -devel packages but he of
> | course installs it right away since he has no idea that he wont need it.
> |
> | And he probably wonders why his newly installed linux machine has 15-20
> | different text editors.
> | (The really funny thing is that the most user friendly of them 'pico' is
> | included in a mailreader and not as a text editor).
> |
> | I can probably go on all night with things to point out.. but I
> guess you
> | guys get it.
> |
> | The new graphical installer takes you far.. but it is still not
> as easy as
> | corel linux for instance..
> | you need to go the last mile aswell.
> |
> | I would like to think that we (the users on cooker) can help
> you guys out in
> | selecting wich packages should go in the 'base' or what we
> should call it.
> |
> |
> | my 12 cents..
> |  Michael Irving
> | - Original Message -
> | From: "Dalton Calford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:12 PM
> | Subject: [Cooker] Distribution Style
> |
> |
> | > I have been using Mandrake since version 5.3, in fact, I learned linux
> | > via mandrake and have always supported the distribution (yes,
> even with
> | > buying copies...)
> | >
> | > The one thing that I found as a begginer and even now that I
> am getting
> | > truly familiar with the system, is that Mandrake, like most
> of the linux
> | > distributions, is suffering from software bloat.
> | >
> | > Too much is included with the base system.  It confuses the user.
> | > Alot gets installed, and never gets used.
> | > A new user does not know what is needed and what isn't but they must
> | > either accept the few hundred meg of software or go through a
> confusing
> | > selection process that they have no way of understanding.
> | >
> | > I have to say that I prefer mandrake over the others but, I
> think there
> | > is a better method of handling this.
> | >
> | > Mandrake should be split into a 'base' package and then all the other
> | > packages put into stand alone installs.
> | >
> | > What should be in the 'base'?
> | > I would suggest X, a trimmed down version of KDE and all the graphical
> | > configuration tools.
> | >
> | > Why not emacs and joe and all the other handy-dandy utilities?
> | >
> | > For the basic user, all those utilities just waste disk space.
> | > Mandrake is filling the 'Entry level Linux' for windows users who want
> | > to walk on the wild side.
> | >
> | > There should be packages that maintain all the different
> possible uses a
> | > person may want including things like Licq or Apache, but,
> these things
>

RE: [[Cooker] Distribution Style]

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

I agree to !
There is a 'workstation' install available (this is the smallest I think,
never used it).
But with the workstation-install there is no way to setup partitions ! (the
first what has to be doing)It sets his own and don't look if there are
several HD's.
Of course the strictly needed packages must be determined and a way to add
packages and doing several other things (editing, etc..) in console (in case
of X didn't work).
Eric
PS: (there is a bug?) in the new isdn4k-utils or isdn4net (cooker). They
didn't find ippp0 !!




> -Original Message-
> From: Taras Glek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [[Cooker] Distribution Style]
>
>
> I totally agree with you, Dalton, but I would like to add a
> couple of points.
> If software is installed, the user should know its there. Put shortcus to
> applications into KDE and GNOME menus. I find it very annoying
> that Mandrake
> includes AbiWord but doesn't add it to any application menus.
> It would be very nice if every installed gui application was
> listed somewhere
> in the GNOME/KDE application menu.
>
> I too want the default install to be much smaller since manyh potentially
> unneeded packages are installed.
> For example wine and wine-debugwhy is wine-debug installled
> and is wasting
> my space?
>
> Dalton Calford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have been using Mandrake since version 5.3, in fact, I learned linux
> > via mandrake and have always supported the distribution (yes, even with
> > buying copies...)
> >
> > The one thing that I found as a begginer and even now that I am getting
> > truly familiar with the system, is that Mandrake, like most of the linux
> > distributions, is suffering from software bloat.
> >
> > Too much is included with the base system.  It confuses the user.
> > Alot gets installed, and never gets used.
> > A new user does not know what is needed and what isn't but they must
> > either accept the few hundred meg of software or go through a confusing
> > selection process that they have no way of understanding.
> >
> > I have to say that I prefer mandrake over the others but, I think there
> > is a better method of handling this.
> >
> > Mandrake should be split into a 'base' package and then all the other
> > packages put into stand alone installs.
> >
> > What should be in the 'base'?
> > I would suggest X, a trimmed down version of KDE and all the graphical
> > configuration tools.
> >
> > Why not emacs and joe and all the other handy-dandy utilities?
> >
> > For the basic user, all those utilities just waste disk space.
> > Mandrake is filling the 'Entry level Linux' for windows users who want
> > to walk on the wild side.
> >
> > There should be packages that maintain all the different possible uses a
> > person may want including things like Licq or Apache, but, these things
> > (including VNC) should not be standard parts of the installation.
> >
> > The packages should be standalone in that they contain in one place all
> > the libs and required files so that when you install the package you do
> > not need to go looking for updates to other packages just so you can run
> > it.
> >
> > This way, a end user can easily add to thier system without worrying
> > about getting other unneeded programs that might be security holes.
> >
> > If a user wants emacs, install the emacs package, if they want to surf
> > the web, add a program that does it.
> >
> > At our office, we remove all browsers and make sure the firewall stops
> > all such traffic, but the standard linux installs include Netscape as a
> > default choice.
> >
> > The people who have made this distribution have done an excellent job,
> > but, too much of Redhats legacy of 'everything and the kitchen sink' has
> > got it bogged down.
> >
> > What I am suggesting, is, stepping back and spliting the developement
> > into two areas
> > 1) a very basic linux system with very little on it.
> > 2) add-on packages to extend the basic system.
> >
> > A basic system of 80-100 MB (even less if possible) that becomes the
> > stepping stone of the distribution that allows everything else to be
> > added would make downloads and installations faster and more reliable.
> >
> > A smaller system with limited items in it allow the user to learn one
> > thing at a time instead of having everything in his face at once.
> >
> > I hope I have not offended anyone with this suggestion, and that perhaps
> > it can lead to some discussion on how to make the distribution a little
> > better.
> >
> > best regards
> >
> > Dalton
>
>
> 
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
>
>

RE: [Cooker] Distribution Style

[Eric MC DECLERCK]

You are right, this is the whole problem when installing individual
packages.
A way to overcoming this is downloading or consulting www.rusfus.com, select
the package and there you'll find what is provided, needed  and the
changelog.
But the best way were of course installing as by the installation of the
distribution, there dependency problems are detected and resolved.
Eric

> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Wackerbarth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 2:22 AM
> To: dcalford; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Distribution Style
>
>
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, dcalford wrote:
>
> > One of my biggest complaints is the fact that some single
> packages do not
> > include the whole package.
> >
> > What I mean by this is, I try to install Package A, then find I need
> > Package B, then find that Package B needs Package C.
> >
> > I would prefer to install Program A wich has inside of it, all ...
>
> > Yes this will make each package much longer due to the
> redundant libraries
> > in each package
>
> Why is this better than a package loader which determines the
> dependancies and
> downloads all the missing files?
>
>