Re: [Cooker] test9.4mdk with ext3 as module
Hi This is on a up to date 9.2, with ext3, and the new kernel installed with no changes. When trying to use: *NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run, I got: Error: The kernel header file '/lib/modules/2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk/build/include/linux/modversions.h' does not exist. The most likely reason for this is that the kernel header files in '/lib/modules/2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk/build/include' have not been included. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] test9.4mdk with ext3 as module
tisdagen den 4 november 2003 13.14 skrev Andrey Borzenkov: This is on a up to date 9.2, with ext3, and the new kernel installed with no changes. When trying to use: *NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run, I got: Error: The kernel header file '/lib/modules/2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk/build/include/linux/modversions.h' does not exist. The most likely reason for this is that the kernel header files in '/lib/modules/2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk/build/include' have not been included. most likely reason for this that you have not used 2.6 patch from www.minion.de (that even provides you 2.6-compatible installer). modversions no more exsts in 2.6 Sorry, no way out with that step. I downloaded 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg#.tar.gz' and open it, and got: two new files, .manifest and *nvidia-installer. Then I used 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run' with ./N.run --extract-only. Then I changed the .manifest and *nvidia-installer to the new ones. When I did ./.nvidia-installer I got: ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com. In the /var/log/nvidia-installer.log I have: ( I have translated this, as this is my doughters box to become, but my new AMD processor gave up so I have to use her 9.2 in swedish) ... - Kernel source path: '/lib/modules/2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk/build' - Cleaning kernel module build directory. executing: 'cd ./usr/src/nv; make clean'... rm -f nv.o os-agp.o os-interface.o os-registry.o nv-linux.o nv_compiler.h * .d NVdriver nvidia.o - Building kernel module: executing: 'cd ./usr/src/nv; make KERNDIR=/lib/modules/2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk/bu ild module'... make: *** Ingen regel för att skapa målet module. Stannar. - Error. trans:No rule to create the module. stops ... regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.6.0-0.test9.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake uses Photoshop... What a pity!
lördagen den 1 november 2003 21.37 skrev Rob: Pimp-ass newsreader is no big deal because (a) none of my clients need to be reading news more than Google Groups will suffice for; (b) there are no pimps per se around my client sites to get offended, whereas there are handicapped people and handicapped people have successfully sued employers over less; and (c) to know that Pan originally stood for Pimp-Ass Newsreader you'd have to google a little bit (they even let superpimp.com lapse), whereas gimp is the name of the executable. I suppose you wouldn't worry about legal liability for programs called New Instant GNOME Graphic Enhancer/Repository or KDE Interactive Kernel Extender either? Rob I wounder how people that are acustomed to variables, that can take any value, are so full of beliefe that words have only one meaning. Even if a certain word is discussed in a dictionary to a certain meaning, that do not exclude every human to be a poet and use the word in a new sentence with a new meaning. To my understanding only singleminded persons read the bible with a beliefe that every word has only one meaning. I think it is nice that some poets or persons have humor. regards guran -- Slackware Linux Current 9.1 kernel-2.4.22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed
Is it possible to use swsusp as a regular halt-susp to get around the need of everyone who thinks that the next second is important. Otherwise I think that Linux or Unix has other walues than a fast start. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 09.58 skrev Eric Fernandez: If you remaster CD1, actually there are three big issues : - the LG drives problem - the updates - the default installed applications. In KDE, a new install has very few applications installed. It was a nice idea to split the kde packages for space reason. What is not nice is that KDE seems completely empty after install (and I am not talking about the update-menus bug though). This is a bug I reported before, for RC1 but also RC2 (bug #5453), and early reviews show criticisms for this. Mozilla is not installed by default, there is no KMail, games are almost empty... What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages? How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by cutting it into a forced search for missing packages? Is it a political decission against qt? In reviews of KDE the journalists very often like the many ways to change KDE in a consistent design. This is helped by kappfinder. What benefits do the Mdk menu has to change the design of KDE. Why is the Mdk screensaver the only single coloured way to save the screen. I don't understand the logic behind these decissions. regards guran -- Slackware Linux Current 9.1 kernel-2.4.22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 11.46 skrev Eric Fernandez: guran wrote: What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages? How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by cutting it into a forced search for missing packages? Is it a political decission against qt? In reviews of KDE the journalists very often like the many ways to change KDE in a consistent design. This is helped by kappfinder. What benefits do the Mdk menu has to change the design of KDE. Why is the Mdk screensaver the only single coloured way to save the screen. I don't understand the logic behind these decissions. regards guran Actually I think it is a good idea to split packages. Other distros do it too. Why installing the kde fax machine when you don't have a fax modem ? This is good for saving disk space. I can understand that, but what I am missing is the possibility to have a choice of installed packages. When Mdk has decided to decrease KDE packages and install Gnome stuff, then I as a user should have a nice button to press that says all KDE stuff. If they want to give a Mdk feel to the installation, fine it is their product. But I think that it stinks when other Linux products are excluded as a choice. regards guran -- Slackware Linux Current 9.1 kernel-2.4.22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 14.09 skrev Jan Ciger: There is no logic to understand - these are bugs which slipped through the QA process or just weren't fixed. I think the screensavers issue was reported before release, as well as the empty KDE. Why it wasn't fixed, I do not know. Jan Thanks, to me you repeat the logic of 'Bill Gates' who said that he didn't want to exclude Linux users, only to integrate MS users (Kerberos hack). guran -- Slackware Linux Current 9.1 kernel-2.4.22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] slocate for LANfs
Hi I read an article:If I could re-write Linux http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/21/1730244 that among other things talk about a new filesystem for LAN's that is searcable. In a Unix way it might be possible to test that with the existing slocate. Let all boxes have a similar system to address or structure slocate and make that file readable over the LAN. Then any box should be able to search a companies files in a 'GRID' like manner. regards guran -- Slackware Linux Current 9.1 kernel-2.4.22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] On preserving gpg, ssh and bookmarks when doing a new installation.
Hi I have met this question a couple of times, and the answer could be of help to someone who don't trust an upgrade. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] application/x-shockwave-flash
tisdagen den 21 oktober 2003 15.51 skrev Ron Stodden: The download for the Linux application/x-shockwave-flash plugin from macromedia will not install on Mandrake 9.2 Does anybody know where to get a plugin that does install and work? If you have used the install_flash_player_6_linux.tar.gz as a user then this flash unit will be installed as /home/user/.mozilla/plugins for KDE this is an invisible place as it looks under /home/user/.netscape/plugins That's why you will have to add for konqueror: $HOME/.mozilla/plugins and everything should work. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] DRI and MDK
Hi This is from a mail on expert, http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2003-10/msg01537.php When I look at Slackware 9.1 and /etc/X11/XF86Config I have: ... # This loads the GLX module Load glx # This loads the DRI module Load dri Why do Mdk have DRI excluded? regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] DRI and MDK
måndagen den 20 oktober 2003 11.32 skrev David Coe: guran wrote: This is from a mail on expert, http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/expert/2003-10/msg01537.php When I look at Slackware 9.1 and /etc/X11/XF86Config I have: ... # This loads the GLX module Load glx # This loads the DRI module Load dri Why do Mdk have DRI excluded? I'm not sure they do. Out of the box 9.1 placed this in XF86Config for my Athlon + ATI Rage Pro. It seems to run as expected. Did you ask for 3D acceleration during display configuration? Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer Load dri # direct rendering EndSection Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection That may be explained by me using NVIDIA, then it is set up for the free nv driver, like this. ... Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer EndSection ... Thanks, I will look around somewhat more for this. guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] DRI and MDK
mndagen den 20 oktober 2003 12.30 skrev Guillaume Bedot: Le lun 20/10/2003 12:21, guran a crit : That may be explained by me using NVIDIA, then it is set up for the free nv driver, like this. ... Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer EndSection ... Thanks, I will look around somewhat more for this. guran Yep dri is no use either for nv or nvidia drivers. Guillaume B. Yes, I did a new read of the NVIDIA text info and found that so was the case. Please forgive my stupidity. guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
måndagen den 20 oktober 2003 20.48 skrev Buchan Milne: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 LE BERRE Daniel wrote: Le lun 20/10/2003 à 09:47, John Allen a écrit : On Monday 20 October 2003 03:35, Ron Stodden wrote: John Allen wrote: Ron Stodden wrote: Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download edition installed jaffe for me ... You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub Really? There are no 9.2 unsupported-MandrakeClub items yet, and no j2* RPMs in the 9.1 unsupported-MandrakeClub tree. http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/8.2/i586/j2sdk-1.4.1_ 01-5mdk.i586.html The easiest way is to grab the latest version (1.4.2_01) directly from SUN website: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html And then rebuild the jpackage .nosrc.rpm. Ok, I just installed the sun rpm and find that the java stuff got installed at the wrong place for jpackage. rpm wont help me to uninstall the shit so I must probably do a new installation. But what is it I should rebuild, the sun java...rpm? regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
tisdagen den 21 oktober 2003 00.58 skrev Markus Ueberall: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, guran wrote: The easiest way is to grab the latest version (1.4.2_01) directly from SUN website: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html And then rebuild the jpackage .nosrc.rpm. Ok, I just installed the sun rpm and find that the java stuff got installed at the wrong place for jpackage. rpm wont help me to uninstall [...] Sounds strange... I installed a lot of jpackage stuff before installing java. a rpm --rebuilddb didn't matter so I will have to do a complete format and install. But what is it I should rebuild, the sun java...rpm? No, you do want to rebuild the jpackage .nosrc.rpm; in order to do this, you have to download the binary version of the sun jdk (.bin) instead of the .rpm one and put it in the SOURCES/ subdirectory (if it's not there, rpm -ba SPECS/java-1.4.2-sun.spec will complain) Ad astra, I will try this 'direction' thanks. guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
söndagen den 19 oktober 2003 13.34 skrev Guillaume Rousse: Ainsi parlait Ron Stodden : But nowhere from MandrakeSoft do I see any indication whether 9.2 as installed includes Java support and if not what are the recommended RPMs to add Java support. There is a wiki available for the communauty. Feel free to supply any necessary explanation there instead of whining after MandrakeSoft. Will you please give the URL and try to explain what is needed to belong to the communauty. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
söndagen den 19 oktober 2003 16.07 skrev Guillaume Rousse: Ainsi parlait John Allen : Ron Stodden wrote: Guillaume Rousse wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS.free]$ LANGUAGE=C rpm -qip ant-1.5.4-2jpp.noarch.rpm Name: ant Relocations: (not relocateable) [snipped] Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download edition installed jaffe for me ... You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub Unfortunatly, it is not jpakage aware, meaning alternatives won't be there. Ok I have got ant*'s installed after installing jpackage-utils xerces* xml-commons* Which typr of java am I supposed to install now to get it up and running? regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
söndagen den 19 oktober 2003 16.42 skrev Jan Ciger: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brook Humphrey wrote: | you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows converts | could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be able to figure out | how to use the thing properly. AS for mc every sysadmin I show it to uses | it. It is way more useful in the real world than emacs. Especially for system | recovery. It is kind of like an all in one tool for when things go bad. I | even use it allot under normal conditions to install rpm's. Especially when | the system is hosed and there is not other way to install them. Emacs will | not do that for me. Hi, I was not going to contribute to this flamewar, but why everybody expects that Linux is used just by Windows converts ? Windows users expect this, Windows users are used to that, blah. Whenever somebody wants to push his personal agenda, this is the argument - Windows does it like this or that ! I am not saying that it is not important but hey, I am using Linux, because it is more Unix than Windows ! Brook, you may think that nobody from Windows converts ever uses Emacs, that's perhaps true. By the same logic, how many of them will touch Vi or any of it's clones ? The same for MC - I used Norton Commander and it's clones (Volkov Commander, Dos Navigator, good old times) in the past and I use MC as well, but users which started their PC experience with Windows have no idea what it is and how to use it (FYI, Win95 is 8 years old already, that is huge amount of time in IT and not everybody is an old fart as me and you). On the other hand, packages like Emacs/XEmacs are essential for old-time Unix users, because that is what they used on Suns and SGI machines they are migrating from (not everybody switches only from Windows to Linux). That you do not use it does not mean that nobody uses it. Personally, I would prefer, that the kernel source was included and some server packages left out in the main tree or in contribs (the people going to need them are more likely to find them than a semi-newbie trying to compile an Nvidia driver), but the line had to be drawn somewhere. Whining like this will not help :-( Jan Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie wants to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: 1) drivers for graphics 2) drivers for sound 3) drivers for java 4) drivers for realplayer 5) drivers for flash To my understanding Mdk has decided that these services should only be at grip for users that buy packs from Mdk. So any user testing Mdk by downloading the installation will only find obstacles forced on them by the economic situation not because Mdk is difficult to use. I think you may have a problem here. You could make a 'HOWTO' that explains this. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 5984] [Hardware] SBLive! audio corruption
fredagen den 17 oktober 2003 11.01 skrev [domimail]: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-17-10 11:01 --- I am able to confirm that the sound level is way too low with this sound card on ML 9.2, eventhough the mixer volumes are cranked to maximum. I can confirm that from a PNP SB AWE64, just now I am testing ALSA on Slackware 9.1 through xine and I get much higher possibilities for volume. Here I have used 'alsamixer' to crank it up. regards guran -- Slackware Linux Current 9.1 kernel-2.4.22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 - disaster already?
torsdagen den 16 oktober 2003 08.08 skrev Ron Stodden: 9.2 - disaster already? After an hd.img install of everything except servers, I immediately see that most of the kde RPMs were not installed with no installer error indication. After manually installing them and trying uselessly to run World Clock the amusement menu is rendered useless and cut back to only Arcade containing only frozen bubble and Chromium. The RPMs are still installed, which indicates some major conflictual screwup in the way they handle installing menu items. I did a manual installation of everything KDE during installation and to me the Wold Clock is up and running in my desktop 8. To check your report I did a log out and reboot to view the results. And my last desktop to be 're-written' is desktop 4 with Kmail and there I got another functioning World Clock. I think that Mdk who uses Gtk and the Debian menu system and their own Mdk system of parting the KDE files is loosing some of the original sync because of c++ and c mis-match. Personally I prefere to have a full KDE installation and to be able to use Kappfinder in the original KDE way to add everything I install. I don't give very much for the Gnome way of hiding away certain programs, that is to say that they should know better than me what I should use. Pathetic way of non personal structure to my finding. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] hd.img installation of 9.2
Hi I did a rsync against my mirror to change my old cooker image to a 9.2-fivestar. VERSION: Mandrake Linux 9.2-FiveStar-i586 20030929 19:45 /ChangeLog/1.847/Tue Sep 23 09:45:58 2003// I did a Swedish install with 'advanced' added as English-GB - mc is pure shit in CLI. Zeroconf gives me a nice name as 'localhost'. sndconfig does can't find the Linus wav file so had to add, to get sound; In /etc/devfsd.conf I opened: ... # ALSA stuff LOOKUP snd MODLOAD ACTION snd ... In /etc/modules.conf I added: ... alias sound-slot-0 sb above sb snd-pnp ... I used mcc to get access and installation of my update mirror. and so that openssl was to be uodated. but used urpmi to do the job: urpmi.update -a urpmi --wget --auto-select --auto this gave an astonishing install in /var/cash like: ... /var/cache/urpmi/headers/zisofs-tools-1.0.4-2mdk.i586 /var/cache/urpmi/headers/zlib1-1.1.4-8mdk.i586 /var/cache/urpmi/headers/zlib1-devel-1.1.4-8mdk.i586 /var/cache/urpmi/headers/zsh-4.1.1-3mdk.i586 /var/cache/urpmi/headers/zsh-doc-4.1.1-3mdk.i586 /var/cache/urpmi/headers/zvbi-0.2.4-3mdk.i586 kunde inte skriva listfil för Installation CD (disk1) skriver listfil för media Installation CD (disk1) undersöker synthesis-fil [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] hämtar käll-hdlist (eller synthesis) för update_source... ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/base/hdlist.cz ...hämtning klar undersöker hdlist-fil [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz] utför andra passet för att räkna ut beroenden undersöker hdlist-fil [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] undersöker hdlist-fil [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_source.cz] bygg dhlist synthesis fil för media update_source hittade 2913 huvuden i cachen tar bort 0 inaktuella huvuden i cache skriv inställningsfil [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg] ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/libopenssl0.9.7-devel-0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/openssl-0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/libopenssl0.9.7-0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk.i586.rpm installerar /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/openssl-0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenssl0.9.7-devel-0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenssl0.9.7-0.9.7b-4.1.92mdk.i586.rpm Förbereder... ## 1:libopenssl0.9.7## 2:libopenssl0.9.7-devel ## 3:openssl## [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# LOOK AT: [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ du /var/cache 96 /var/cache/man 72012 /var/cache/urpmi/headers 4 /var/cache/urpmi/partial 4 /var/cache/urpmi/rpms 72024 /var/cache/urpmi 68 /var/cache/gstreamer-0.6 4 /var/cache/samba 4 /var/cache/fonts 72200 /var/cache [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
måndagen den 13 oktober 2003 10.51 skrev Kevin Perros: This message is the result of conversations whith newbies that tried to use Mandrake 9.1/9.2 and after having been conviced and happy with the distribution are re-using Windows more and more for a couple of annoying and easily solvable problems. My point of view about newbie difficulties (which I heard FROM NEWBIES themselves) with Mandrake is that there are roughly four issues: 1. The package 2. The menues 3. The language 4. The license 1. The packages are a good thing but there should be a frontend to the package systems where we talk about apps and plugins. The apps should be organized in a tree that should be understood by the end-user. A typical end-user doesn't know what the graphical environment category could contain, as an exemple. Even desktop or Bureautique or Network should not be seen. More over, only major apps should be shown, with a comment that only says something like Open Office is the leading text writer, spreadsheet tool under Linux, or Abiword is a text writer that is lighter than Open Office... 2. The menues should be nearly empty, with only newbie oriented apps in it. A First level should only contain the labels Internet (netwok doesn't mean much for a user, and less correctness on language is sometime a good thing), Programs, Multimedia, Sound (A newbie doesn't think about sound being multimedia), Close The System (session is har to understand too). Typically a user only needs a multimedia player, a sound player, a desktop suite, a web browser, a mail reader, tools for burning CDs and rip CDs. 3. I focused hear on the french translation but it also applies to others. Every term like réseau environnent graphique bureautique is technical for a newbie and shouldn't be used. Maybe whe should have a franglais mode where we read plugin and not greffon and so on. I understand that it is not such an important thing. Such a mode would only be usefull for mid-newbies that know what is a plugin, but not a greffon. Total newbies doesn't know what is a plugin. 4. A newbie doesn't know PLF, and as a consequence can't make as many things as with windows with is Mandrake. Lincensing and Patent issues are a mess for newbies that aren't aware of that problem. Here there is no technical solutions, only poltical ones... Thanks, very nice to read a mail that has the 'perception of seeing reality', i.e. any system that is to fix a newbie itch, has to use the newbie words of reality. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia driver messes up console mode (framebuffer?)
lördagen den 11 oktober 2003 11.41 skrev Juan Quintela: Can people please mail me the output of lspcidrake -v and telling me what versions work/don't work for you? *NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run [EMAIL PROTECTED] tempo]# lspcidrake -v agpgart : VIA Technologies|VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:1106 device:0691 subv:1043 subd:8017) unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:1106 device:8598) unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C596 ISA [Apollo PRO] [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:1106 device:0596 subv:1043 subd:8017) unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:1106 device:0571) usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:1106 device:3038 subv:0925 subd:1234) unknown : VIA Technologies Inc|Power Management Controller [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:1106 device:3050) 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:10ec device:8139) Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic): nVidia Corporation|NV11 Geforce2 MX/MX 400 [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:10de device:0110) unknown : Unknown|USB UHCI Root Hub [Hub|Root Hub] (vendor: device:) OBSERVANDUM: Because of earlier problem this installation is first chosen to be only in Swedish, but later I add all necessarily single packages for en, so this is not UTF8. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
lördagen den 11 oktober 2003 12.14 skrev Simon Oosthoek: On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 12:53:47AM +0200, guran wrote: I think that this thread should be read in two steps: 1 There is a problem for newbies to know 'programs'. 2 How best to fix i. My proposal is a Howto that is linked to all installed programs doc and for the rest calls mc to read all docs directly from the rpms on discs. Most people don't want to read documentation (only geeks want to know how things work, other people just want stuff to work), that's the problem with all newbies. The outcome of the newbie problems is: 1) the newbie wants to find out how stuff works or can be done more easily; this is the newbie geek. 2) the newbie doesn't know how stuff works and just tries every thing she/he knows from before (read: windows/mac/???); this is the adventurous user. 3) Whoa, everything is different, the newie just gets scared and wants his/her mommy (read: windows/mac/??). This is the hard to help category. The 1st category is already very happy with the way things are. (Actually, the more difficult the better, since that makes you cool (NOT!) The 2nd cat. can be helped by adding tips and intuitive interfaces. The 3rd cat. needs intensive guidance and support during a longer period to get used to the new and improved environment ;-) This is also a category user that, once converted, never wants to go back. The 1st and 2nd category should be accomodated in Mandrake's Linux (IMHO). The 3rd category is beyond mere interface aids, they need someone next to them while learning. Documentation is fine, but know that you're writing it for yourself/us (assuming most cookers are in cat. 1 ;-) Obviously, this is my view on the world, I could be wrong... /Simon Very good analysis - Thanks guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
lördagen den 11 oktober 2003 14.18 skrev guran: lördagen den 11 oktober 2003 12.14 skrev Simon Oosthoek: On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 12:53:47AM +0200, guran wrote: I think that this thread should be read in two steps: 1 There is a problem for newbies to know 'programs'. 2 How best to fix i. My proposal is a Howto that is linked to all installed programs doc and for the rest calls mc to read all docs directly from the rpms on discs. Most people don't want to read documentation (only geeks want to know how things work, other people just want stuff to work), that's the problem with all newbies. I have been thinking one line further. Let me first state that I think that the way Vedran's proposal was discussed is not a good Linux way. As I understand the Linus way, he lets interested people go their way and if it is good when it is delivered it is accepted. As an example go to http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/categories/index.html There you have a database ready for search on items SuSe finds interesting, like: Autoinstall Boot ConsoleApps Documentation Facsimile, Hylafax Installation Internet Access KDE Kernel Network Other Printing Sound SuSE FAQ X11Apps XFree86 YaST AFAIK Vedran had some twenty years of database experience and wanted to do a database more suited for a search based on newbie entries. What could be wrong with such an evolution of the Mdk way? To my understanding the entries in such a database could very well contain all text added to a WIKI 'forrest'. I think you should ask Vedran to start his new work and everybody interested could add text as needed. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
torsdagen den 9 oktober 2003 19.44 skrev FACORAT Fabrice: Le jeu 09/10/2003 à 12:50, Duncan a écrit : Svetoslav Slavtchev posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted it could be in a sub menu install more software, which uses the menu structure of the main menu, has nice icons, and a good description I like this idea. Have one entry on the menu that leads to another copy of the menu, as suggested. beurk ! In all usability test you will see that you should avoid more than 3 level in menu. Another sub menu could put 4 level and even 5 level ! tooo much. And you will decide which apps to put ? I think that this thread should be read in two steps: 1 There is a problem for newbies to know 'programs'. 2 How best to fix i. My proposal is a Howto that is linked to all installed programs doc and for the rest calls mc to read all docs directly from the rpms on discs. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
onsdagen den 8 oktober 8 Oct 2003 07:32 skrevVedran Ljubovic: Personally, I expected something more radical. I expected that the very concept of packages would finally be abandoned. In this long(ish) mail I'll try to explain what I mean. ... Very nice indeed. If someone wants tp read another opinion on how the 'new user' differs from 'a geek guy' you may want to read: Democratizing software: Open source, the hacker ethic, and beyond by Brent K. Jesiek at: http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_10/jesiek/ which does a very good examination of the usabillity of Linux for a newbie. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] Ideas for RpmDrake [long]
onsdagen den 8 oktober 2003 09.18 skrev Vedran Ljubovic: Hello list, This thread has been very interesting. To me it it has shown that the meaning of 'Contrib' and all its packages is not going to be sold to a newbie in a new way because Mdk is already doing the right thing. The right thing being to already know what you are going to do in a Mdk-Linux fashion. Contrary to this I want you to visit Webmin and all its different 'setup pages'. There you will most probably find pages that containes icons for programs and tasks that are not installed on your box. In the same way a newbie will most certainly find that 'the Linux way' has hidden ways of doing things that might be of interest to a more educated user. Vedran's mail was one way of asking if it is possible to use a database of descriptions of programs, so that the user might traverse these descriptions in his way, thus not necessarily the 'right Linux way'. If you want to sell 'the Mdk way' of knowledge, then you must have a way of transporting that knowledge to the level of a newbie or Linux is just for advanced geeks. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Re: And next?
Hi I will discuss drakconnect and my perceptions. This setup has two boxes, a firewall with Mdk 9.1 and a user box with different Linux distributions. Firewall setup. My firewall has a stable IP and many local DNS's. During setup I only have the right to setup one DNS server. The reason for more DNS servers might be justified as this is a university student LAN. = Mdk has minimized the Linux way of choice, for graphical reasons? When going to the next card I am giving the IP for eth1 as 192.168.1.1. But to my memory I am not asked for a 'local LAN name server' deposit. Thus two choices are hidden to me, if I want the router to know the names of the local LAN and, compared to Microsoft, if I want the router to have a per session cache for most visited URL's. As this setup does not function I have to visit 'drakconnect sharing', and find that the name on eth0 is given to eth1 as well, and that 192.168.1.1 is setup as DNS server for 192.168.1.252. Slackware advices its user to not allow 192.169.1.1 to be given as DNS server for speed reasons. This is what I call a communistic decission tree, which comes out as authoritarian in your view. That is to say the right way to do it has already been choosen. Thus the reason for the decission is the right one not a choosen one of many possible ones. This leads to a Linux specific question: Is the GUI interface used to hide or help a newbie? I have always thought that the hiding of a text boot to a newbie is stupid. As long as every decission taken is given a 'OK' then no newbie should have to be afraid of what a large enterprice a server is. Along this line I think that possible decissions should be shown and the position for the user to enlarge or widen his choice by a later come back should be adviced. Thus Mdk should have 'navigation plan' as in Navigare necesse est vivere non est necesse. To me this plan has to coincide with the plan from the user community, if you want them to cooperate in its fullfillment. Personally I have always found the Mdk boot structure stupid as it had no way to stop an installation and cleanly jump out. Thus you may have to go as RedHat, not mount and format until every choice by the user is done. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: And next?
söndagen den 28 september 2003 13.23 skrev guran: Thus Mdk should have 'navigation plan' as in Navigare necesse est vivere non est necesse. To me this plan has to coincide with the plan from the user community, if you want them to cooperate in its fullfillment. Here is a discussion 'navigation plan'. Assume the user and a community member to interested in the last and the fastest Linux box from Mdk. Thus the package selection should be directed to the user decissions and not to the usual Linux way of sorting packages. Tree: 1 a = newbie and b = fast, in b a possibility to choose a i686 kernel Tree: Multimedia, 2 a = standard and b = preemptive kernel. Tree: GUI, 3 a = standard KDE and b = everything from KDE c. Tree: Office, 4 a = OO suit b = KDE-office c = LyX regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] ISA sound without sndconfig.
Hi Hd.img installation from uninett VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030924 21:50 /ChangeLog/1.847/Tue Sep 23 09:45:58 2003// I have a ISA sb awe64 and sndconfig failed as there was no wav file. As cooker installed another box via alsa and oss as snd-intel8x0, I pooked around and got sound via the following. In /etc/devfsd.conf I opened: ... # ALSA stuff LOOKUP snd MODLOAD ACTION snd ... In /etc/modules.conf I added: ... alias sound-slot-0 sb above sb snd-pnp ... That got everything swinging, so kick out sndconfig. ' I still think that your KDE sallad has destroyed the taste by hacking it down in small pieces locked away in awry places .' guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] My name is: localhost.
Hi Hd.img installation from uninett VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030924 21:50 /ChangeLog/1.847/Tue Sep 23 09:45:58 2003// I did an automatic installation of lan and only added the name 'Freedom'. The firewall is a mdk 9.1. This is from /var/log/messages: ... Sep 25 14:15:26 localhost tmdns[1511]: enter main loop Sep 25 14:15:26 localhost tmdns: tmdns start succeeded Sep 25 14:15:27 localhost tmdns[1511]: claim name Freedom.local, type 1 ... ... Sep 25 14:15:33 localhost postfix: Startar postfix: Sep 25 14:15:33 localhost postfix: postalias: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Sep 25 14:15:33 localhost postfix: postmap: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Sep 25 14:15:34 localhost last message repeated 4 times Sep 25 14:15:35 localhost postfix: succeeded ... I find that I have no freedom to add my own name. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:20030924 21:50 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Friday 05 September 2003 07.32, Han Boetes wrote: guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think that much of the value of Linux apart from quality is the right to make one owns choices. Otherwise we might be locked into a 'communistic' philosophy, that has decided what is best for us. That's got nothing to do with communism. You are refering to the political models used in the former USSR and China and North Korea. By analogy, not all skinheads are nazi's. Well, you are entitled to your interpretation. Mine was that in practice both Lenin and Mao defined what was best for the party, and that was forced to be the communistic way. In that envelope I was trying to say that the idea or finding that a newbie does not know anything about CLI in a console, does not necessarily indicate that Mdk should stop them from learning about it. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] XFree86-libs - pb finding.
On Friday 05 September 2003 07.57, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 4, 2003 11:24 pm, guran wrote: Hi I can't upgrade this: ... Some package requested cannot be installed: XFree86-xfs-4.3-21mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied XFree86-libs[== 4.3-21mdk]) ... ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# rpm -q --provides XFree86-libs package XFree86-libs is not installed ... Have you sold it? guran Or did SCO steal that too? :) I've been getting exactly the same message for most of the last 8 to 10 hours. I have no idea what the devil it means. Other than the XFree package is a newer version than the library on the servers. I looked. Charlie Well, I think that it might be the result from a tired programmer, i.e. he has invented this lib instead of using: libxfree86-4.3-20mdk.i586.rpm And that one he has forgot to compile up to ..21. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] XFree86-libs - pb finding.
On Friday 05 September 2003 08.22, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 5, 2003 12:09 am, Paul Dorman wrote: whack Or did SCO steal that too? :) I've been getting exactly the same message for most of the last 8 to 10 hours. I have no idea what the devil it means. Other than the XFree package is a newer version than the library on the servers. I looked. Don't sweat it. It's just because XFree86-libs has (for some I-am-sure-it's-sane-but-it-seams-bone-headed reason) been renamed to libxfree86. Just install XFree86-xfs with a no-deps and carry on like nothing happened... Paul. Of course, I could be quite wrong. Thanks Paul; It wouldn't be the first time I dove in and 'broke' this box since I first discovered Mandrake. Twice today in fact. Or is this three times? I lose track when I'm having fun. Maybe that's why some of us are so adamant about wanting CL tools installed and available by default. You know; If you didn't break it yet today you ain't tryin' hard enough! :) Thanks for the idea, I will from now on try to look at lib as an abrevation of 'liberated from' :) guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Friday 05 September 2003 08.33, Han Boetes wrote: guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 05 September 2003 07.32, Han Boetes wrote: guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think that much of the value of Linux apart from quality is the right to make one owns choices. Otherwise we might be locked into a 'communistic' philosophy, that has decided what is best for us. That's got nothing to do with communism. You are refering to the political models used in the former USSR and China and North Korea. By analogy, not all skinheads are nazi's. Well, you are entitled to your interpretation. Mine was that in practice both Lenin and Mao defined what was best for the party, and that was forced to be the communistic way. That's a slur. A misuse of the word. You are contributing to a lie. Just like the people from the inquisition called themselves true followers of the beliefs of christ. Or Osama-bin-laden calling himself a true muslims. Communism means sharing instead of claiming ownership. In that envelope I was trying to say that the idea or finding that a newbie does not know anything about CLI in a console, does not necessarily indicate that Mdk should stop them from learning about it. That's communism: sharing knowledge :) You mean authoritarian: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html # Han Well, I like your logic, it is structured like a computer program with no forks. But the philosopher, Georg Henrik von Wright, discussed in his analysis of the word 'idiot', that it did come from old Greece and signified a person that did not speak the greek language. So everything he said was clear nonsence. To day 'idiot' may indicate a person that do things that are of no sence to a viewer. So it is possible to argue that the listener has changed the original logic of the word to a class of activities of a foreigner that has no sence to the listener. Thus my '' around 'communistic' was to signify that in a communistic group it is possible to have a view of 'the other people', as communism is for everyone, and to declare an idea or formula for 'the other people', i.e. to dictate or signify what is best for them. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Printing from OO 1.0.3
Hi I have a local printer called Printer attached to my box. When printing from OO I have used Printer and Generic Printer and got the same result. The result is quite perfect, I was just used to getting garbish from one of them. Thanks for something good. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] urmpi and kernel
Hi I am sitting here waiting for urmpi to update, just now at 70 files, very nice indeed. I wonder if it is possible to let urmpi download kernel file to the root directory. In that case all test done by urmpi should be done. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] urmpi and kernel
On Friday 05 September 2003 20.41, Thomas Backlund wrote: Why do you need it in root directory? Just do 'urpmi kernel', and you will be shown a list, select the one you need and it will be installed Thomas As update didn't install it, I never tried urpmi. BTW, why doesn't the new kernel setup allow me to install NVIDIA, it asks for kernelheader or --kernel-install-path. Thanks guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.5mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:200309051823
Re: [Cooker] urmpi and kernel
On Friday 05 September 2003 21.30, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:41:37 +0300 Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just do 'urpmi kernel', and you will be shown a list, select the one you need and it will be installed That will not give you a list. For a list use either urpmq kernel or urpmi --fuzzy kernel Urpmi --fuzzy will give gives the easiest to read list. Charles You were right thanks guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.5mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:200309051823
Re: [Cooker] kernel-utils missing from mirrors
On Friday 05 September 2003 23.05, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Robert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't install and test kernel-2.6 under Cooker because of the missing kernel-utils package. replaced by bootloader-utils Well I have a new hd.img installation for a couple of hours ago and NVIDIA's new installer can't install without kheader. [EMAIL PROTECTED] nvidia]$ rpm -qa bootloader-utils bootloader-utils-1.6-1mdk As you can see the bootloader is not enough. There are two ways out of this, the rest of the world changes their way and follow in line or a symlink or similar is setup. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.5mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:200309051823
[Cooker] NVIDIA drivers impossible to install
Hi I have a new hd.img installatiom and it is impossible to install the NVIDIA drivers. I have tried with two different kernels and with two different packages of drivers, both the self-installing package and src.rpm. They are looking for kernelheaders [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ rpm -qa bootloader-utils bootloader-utils-1.6-1mdk BTW, I think your KDE implimentation is pure shit. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.5mdk-1-1mdk VERSION:200309051823
Re: [Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb? holds solution.
On Thursday 04 September 2003 14.41, François Pons wrote: guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OBSERVE that this shit is written in my home direcrory, = working directory, and not to /var/cashe/urpmi Which version of urpmi did you used ? I made systematic chdir into the cache for download (to avoid writing in current directory for download program used (especially wget)) since urpmi-4.4-27mdk, but it appears you are more up-to-date according to kernel used (unless you upgraded only the kernel ?). I managed to get back an error using sunet style mirror, exit code 8 of curl meaning server has sent data curl didn't understood. François. I am using the same urpmi now, and the problem has disappeared, might be because I have sent mails to both uninett and sunet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ rpm -qa urpmi* urpmi-4.4-29mdk (this was reported in my first mail on this thread, http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-09/msg00721.php regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb? holds solution.
On Thursday 04 September 2003 15.51, François Pons wrote: You may want to configure one medium with hdlist and severall medium with synthesis so that if one mirror is failing, the other are continuing working (or at least may be continuing). François. Thanks, very nice - I will use that. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Hd.img installation per Version:200309041022
Hi rsynced via ftp.sunet.se with VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030904 10:22 /ChangeLog/1.830/Wed Sep 3 17:13:20 2003// lang: en_US + sv - UTF8 Package selection, took everything for workstation plus firewall = 2026 MB when asking for 'individual package selection' + next it shows = 1836 MB When I go backwards and immediately then forward I get = 2041 MB. This might indicate that some 'buffer' has reached its limit??? No XFree86-100dpi-fonts to be delivered by default, is that a Mdk special decission? Was not allowed to install: drakconf kdebase kdegraphics kdenetworks kwintv libkdepim2 libkdeutils-devel koffice-devel libkdepim2-devel libkdeutils-devel prelude Before 'Summary' the picture is double, has been since years AFAIK. New ntp servers but impossible to know for a newbie. Printer HP 710C identified for HP 712C when asking for drivers. Test page tiled to the left by 1 mm meassured at top. LAN, by DHCP from Mdk 9.0, and used autodetect + expert, gave Pelles in zeroconf, but still have a fine 'localhost'. In FirstTimeWizard there was no KMail only evolution and mozilla, is this a Mdk decission. Booted first with nv and had no cdrom icon on my desktop and no KDE packages for example koffice, is that a Mdk decission. Killed x-server and installed all KDE packages and NVIDIA drivers. Used kappfinder to add 59 packages to a stupified Mdk menu structure. Interesting decissions you have at Mdk. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 18.06, andre wrote: On Thursday 04 September 2003 17:21, David Baudens wrote: xterm is installed if KDE or GNOME are not installed. Why, isn't rxvt good enough Here you may have one answer: ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ rxvt == WARNING!! rxvt is unable to display in UTF-8 encoding you should use xterm instead == ... Personally I think that much of the value of Linux apart from quality is the right to make one owns choices. Otherwise we might be locked into a 'communistic' philosophy, that has decided what is best for us. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] hevea bad signature
Hi ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi hevea unable to access hdlist file of update01, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update02, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update04, medium ignored The following packages have bad signatures: /mnt/hd/manne/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/hevea-1.06-3mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (sha1 md5 OK) Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y installing /mnt/hd/manne/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/hevea-1.06-3mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:hevea ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# ... regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] bad signatures
Hi From urpmi.update and urpmi auto c from ftp.uninett.no ... The following packages have bad signatures: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gnome-vfs2-2.3.90-2mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (sha1 md5 OK) /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libgnome-vfs2_0-2.3.90-2mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (sha1 md5 OK) ... regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Peculiar pb with mouse pointer and bookmarks in konqueror
Hi This problem I have had for several weeks, and my analysis is the following. In konqueror I use fonts with a minimum font of 16 and medium to 18. When i move the mouse pointer slowly from top to bottom among my bookmarks then about between two middle bookmarks the 'lighted field of text' is suddenly shifting from the upper bookmark to 'Add Bookmark' and later the lower bookmark is lighted. Thus if I press the mouse button, in an unguarded way, and supposedly at one of the two bookmarks, I actually signs for a new example of the same bookmark that I am visiting, but at the bottom of the list of bookmarks. I noticed this when I suddenly got more new bookmarks of one page. There are at least two possibilities. 1 The fonts are not fitting in with the rows of screen text. 2 There are really pixels in between the lines of text which belongs in the class to the parent of all siblings thus 'add bookmarks'. Rather interesting in my view. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] hevea bad signature
On Friday 05 September 2003 01.33, Buchan Milne wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, guran wrote: Hi ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi hevea unable to access hdlist file of update01, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update02, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update04, medium ignored The following packages have bad signatures: /mnt/hd/manne/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/hevea-1.06-3mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (sha1 md5 OK) Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y installing /mnt/hd/manne/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/hevea-1.06-3mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ## 1:hevea ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# Unfortunately this is currently normal, contribs are unsigned ... Sorry, I hadn't concluded that. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Solution to prelude-0.4.2-7mdk.i586 pb
Hi There seem to be a 'cut and paste' mistake in the require for prelude, as it is asking for a file that doesn't exist. ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi prelude Some package requested cannot be installed: prelude-0.4.2-7mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libssl.so.0) (Y/n) [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# updatedb [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# locate libssl.so /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 /usr/lib/libssl.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# ... Thus prelude is asking for ibssl.so.0.9.7, but '.9.7' is missing. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Friday 05 September 2003 01.51, David Walser wrote: David Baudens wrote: I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal. I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. That's all fine. But if someone *does* install a terminal, it should be in the freakin' menu!!! I think you are doing a big mistake if you treate the users as idiots. I have a daughter that only uses Microsoft. Once when she was here one of my sons helped her to do some downloads from a friends ftp server. As he is a Unix administrator he learned her to use ftp from a konsole. She had no problem what so ever and liked to know what she was doing. If you take away what is the pure blood of Unix, it says more about you or the users in France than about the necessity to hide the beaty of Unix. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] XFree86-libs - pb finding.
Hi I can't upgrade this: ... Some package requested cannot be installed: XFree86-xfs-4.3-21mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied XFree86-libs[== 4.3-21mdk]) ... ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# rpm -q --provides XFree86-libs package XFree86-libs is not installed ... Have you sold it? guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2, KDE, kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk, Version:20030904 10:22 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] On java and her places.
Hi I have just installed a Slackware current to check and Pat Volkerding is installing java as per default in the distribution: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/j2sdk1.4.2$ regards guran -- Slackware Linux Current ^9.0 kernel-2.4.22 per 20030903 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb?
Hi The best answer to this might be that everything is installed, and nothing ha sto be added but I don't understand the four last lines containing 'unable to access hdlist c'. I even did a run with --wget removed, all the same c. Here goes. OK, I am back to test. 1 removed old media 2 added update_sunet01,2,3 3 did a new round and got the same shit. ... 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi.removemedia -c update01 ... 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi.addmedia update_sunet01 ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz unable to access hdlist file of update01, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update02, medium ignored added medium update_sunet01 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation sources (disk2).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib CD (disk3).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib sources (disk4).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Jpackage.org (disk5).cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Jpackage.org sources (disk6).cz] retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of update_sunet01... ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as ../base/hdlist.cz ...retrieving done examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_sunet01.cz] examining pubkey file of update_sunet01... built hdlist synthesis file for medium update_sunet01 found 0 headers in cache removing 0 obsolete headers in cache write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg] ... 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi.update --wget -a urpmi --wget --auto-select --auto computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD (disk1).cz] unable to access medium Installation sources (disk2), this could happen if you mounted manually the directory when creating the medium. computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib CD (disk3).cz] unable to access medium Contrib sources (disk4), this could happen if you mounted manually the directory when creating the medium. computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Jpackage.org (disk5).cz] unable to access medium Jpackage.org sources (disk6), this could happen if you mounted manually the directory when creating the medium. computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_sunet01.cz] examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_sunet01.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium update_sunet01 computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_sunet02.cz] examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_sunet02.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium update_sunet02 computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_sunet03.cz] examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_sunet03.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium update_sunet03 unable to access hdlist file of update_sunet01, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update_sunet02, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update_sunet03, medium ignored Everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# ... regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] On java and her places.
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 15.29, Buchan Milne wrote: Re: [Cooker] On java and her places. Från: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: I dag 15.21.49 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 guran wrote: Hi I have just installed a Slackware current to check and Pat Volkerding is installing java as per default in the distribution: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/j2sdk1.4.2$ Please, try a jpackage package next, if you can't figure out how to make one from the .nosrc.rpm, I can make on available to you personally. I assume the Java packages Mandrake will ship for 9.2 will be jpackage-compatible (allowing the use of all the jpackage packages in contrib now). Regards, Buchan I am sorry that I have thrown loaded bullits in the fire, I can only remark that I read the user instructions from Mdk and there I saw directions to Sun. For the very first time I have visited http://www.jpackage.org/about.php and slowly I see a new sun rising. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb? holds solution.
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 16.06, guran wrote: I forgot to add this shit: ... !hdlist.update_sunet01.cz33Sep 3 15:52 !hdlist.update_sunet02.cz28Sep 3 15:52 !hdlist.update_sunet03.cz30Sep 3 15:53 !synthesis.hdlist.update01.cz43Sep 3 07:31 !synthesis.hdlist.update02.cz38Sep 3 07:31 !synthesis.hdlist~ate_sunet01.cz 43Sep 3 15:52 ... OBSERVE that this shit is written in my home direcrory, = working directory, and not to /var/cashe/urpmi regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Hd.img inst per 20030902
Hi rsync via ftp.sunet.se VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030902 5:20 /ChangeLog/1.829/Sat Aug 30 01:04:19 2003// lang. en-US + sv - UTF8 unable to add package prelude, this is from ddebug.log: ... * read header file /mnt/tmp/headers/kernel-source-2.4.22-4mdk.i586 * read header file /mnt/tmp/headers/prelude-0.4.2-7mdk.i586 * read header file /mnt/tmp/headers/prelude-0.4.2-7mdk.i586 * read header file /mnt/tmp/headers/openssh-server-3.6.1p2-6mdk.i586 ... That was all about prelude even in reportbug.gz ntp not clearly shown as timezone indicated as correct. Printer, 'dialog' correctly centered at 'HP 712C' although printer correctly identified as HP 710C. Test page shifted 2 mm to the left and top down 1 mm. Screen, 128x1024 in test, dilogbox off center. probably centered for 1024x768. Lan. DHCP box with zeroconf given as 'Pelles', but shown as localhost. From /etc/sysconfig/network: ... NETWORKING=yes ... No dm used. Nvidia OK No fine KDE completely installed, done manually. Icons, no icon for cdrom on desktop (cdr). urpmi OK as no gpg needed. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 5196] [Installation] New: Need a cancel/abort button during installation
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 13.21, [f.faber-pro] wrote: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5196 Product: Installation Component: Installation Summary: Need a cancel/abort button during installation Product: Installation Version: 1.829 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: Installation AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Installer need an abort/cancel button. I.e hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE during install to stop install is not user friendly at all ! Sometimes an user just want to play with partitions or want to abort installation as it will take too longer so he need and obvious and easy way to quit cleanly the installation. This button should always be accessible ( left side under all the steps ) and with a special design/color scheme ( for example in red with the gnome/kde poweroff/logout icon ). I agree with joy to this analysis. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Hd.img inst per 20030902
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 13.37, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 guran wrote: Lan. DHCP box with zeroconf given as 'Pelles', but shown as localhost. From /etc/sysconfig/network: ... NETWORKING=yes ... So is this one still not fixed? I haven't had a chance to test (first RC1 CD didn't write correctly ... so will install RC1 tonight after I write a new one). Regards, Buchan Well it was corrected in my earlier installation but have crept back. Might be a duck from 'cut and paste'. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] java as per default in konqueror
Hi In konqueror java is supposed to be found as something like /usr/lib/j2re_1_4_1. At Sun the latest is: j2re_1_4_2_01-linux-i586, when installed it is found by mozilla but konqueror has to be manually set as /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/java. From there working nice. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] repeat report on makewhatis
Hi I am not intelligent enough to resolve all the questions to report via bugzilla. [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# makewhatis /usr/sbin/makewhatis: line 157: cd: /usr/man: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] java as per default in konqueror
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 17.18, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait guran : Hi In konqueror java is supposed to be found as something like /usr/lib/j2re_1_4_1. At Sun the latest is: j2re_1_4_2_01-linux-i586, when installed it is found by mozilla but konqueror has to be manually set as /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/java. From there working nice. And why blindly follow Sun crappy conventions ? Just look at http://www.zarb.org/horde/chora/co.php/rpms/free/jpackage-utils/jpackage-ut ils-jvm.list?login=2rt=jpackager=1.4 to see where different vendors install their JVM. Better use jpackage conventions, as those packages are now included in contribs. The java executable is accessed through a /usr/bin/java symlink, managed by alternative. I am not testing for my personal choice, I try to understand the Mdk way for a newbie. 1 From Mdk: file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Starter.html/index.html: Install the jre RPM package. See Chapter 21, Package Management for information on how to install RPM packages. You can obtain the Java plugin on the Java web site. Follow the links to J2SE (Java 2, Standard Edition) and download JRE for Linux. Follow the directions in the README file included in the downloaded tarball (in this case, a compressed archive of files which ends with the .tar.gz extension) to complete the plugin installation. 2 When I follow the above instruction I get from Sun exactly the file I installed, and I don't understand if it changes position just because I read a written instruction by Mdk. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] prelude-0.4.2-7 pb.
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi prelude Some package requested cannot be installed: prelude-0.4.2-7mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libssl.so.0) (Y/n) [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmf libssl.so.0 libopenssl0.9.7:/usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] rpm pecularity ??
Hi Hd.img installation VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030902 14:27 /ChangeLog/1.829/Sat Aug 30 01:04:19 2003// When as root I tried to get the version nr for kernel I did not get any answer, when I logged out of mc and root I got an answer. I don't know if it is a problem: ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] share]$ rpm -qa rpm rpm-4.2-16mdk ... . [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# mc [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# rpm -qa kernel* [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# exit exit [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# exit exit [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ rpm -qa kernel* kernel-source-2.4.22-4mdk kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] cdrom problem for missed icon?
Hi Hd.img installation VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030902 14:27 /ChangeLog/1.829/Sat Aug 30 01:04:19 2003// This is from syslog and might indicate why I don't have a cdrom icon on my desktop in KDE: ... Sep 2 22:28:52 localhost kernel: udf: registering filesystem Sep 2 22:28:53 localhost kernel: cdrom: open failed. Sep 2 22:28:53 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 0 Sep 2 22:28:53 localhost kernel: sda: Unit Not Ready, sense: Sep 2 22:28:53 localhost kernel: Current 00:00: sense key Not Ready Sep 2 22:28:53 localhost kernel: Additional sense indicates Medium not present ... To me this means that the dialog with floppy and Zip drive is OK, and their icons are up on desktop but the cdrom one is missing. This is from earlier in syslog: ... Sep 2 22:13:53 localhost kernel: hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ... Sep 2 22:13:53 localhost kernel: hdc: attached ide-scsi driver. Sep 2 22:13:53 localhost kernel: scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices Sep 2 22:13:53 localhost kernel: Vendor: HPModel: CD-Writer+ 9100 Rev: 1.0c Sep 2 22:13:53 localhost kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 ... regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] unicode - segmentationfault
Hi Hd.img installation VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030902 14:27 /ChangeLog/1.829/Sat Aug 30 01:04:19 2003// This is from syslog: ... Sep 2 22:13:06 localhost rc.sysinit: Mounting proc filesystem succeeded Sep 2 22:13:06 localhost unicode_start: ^[%G Sep 2 22:13:06 localhost unicode_start: /bin/unicode_start: line 23:41 Segmentation fault consolecha rs --font=$1 Sep 2 22:13:06 localhost rc.sysinit: Setting default font (lat0-16): succeeded ... regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] drakfonts unreadable
Hi Hd.img installation VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030902 14:27 /ChangeLog/1.829/Sat Aug 30 01:04:19 2003// This is from syslog: ... Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: xfs startup succeeded Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont (unreadable) Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/Type1 (unreadable) Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/ttf (unreadable) Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost netfs: Mounting other filesystems: succeeded Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled (unreadable ) Sep 2 22:13:55 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled (unre adable) Sep 2 22:13:55 localhost shorewall: Loading /usr/share/shorewall/functions... ... regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] rpm pecularity ??
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 23.22, Luca Berra wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 11:03:07PM +0200, guran wrote: When as root I tried to get the version nr for kernel I did not get any answer, when I logged out of mc and root I got an answer. I don't know if it is a problem: the problem is you being a unix newbie (no offense intended, i am just an old fart) repeat with me: globbing is done by the shell globbing is done by the shell globbing is done by the shell globbing is done by the shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# rpm -qa kernel* if you do rpm -qa kernel* in the /var/log directory it matches a directory named kernel there and the line evaluates to rpm -qa kernel and there is no pattern named just kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ rpm -qa kernel* in your home directory there is probably no file whose name starts with kernel, and you have nullglob unset, so the word is left as it is, the line evaluates to: rpm -qa kernel* which yelds kernel-source-2.4.22-4mdk kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk exercise for the reader 1) what would have happened if you had set nullglob? 2) what should the correct command be? regards, L. Thanks, I think I feel what it might be about. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] tmdns stealing my hostname again
Hi Hd.img installation VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030902 14:27 /ChangeLog/1.829/Sat Aug 30 01:04:19 2003// This is from syslog: ... Sep 2 22:14:01 localhost tmdns[1622]: claim name Pelles.local, type 1 ... This is caused by LAN installation against a Mdk 9.0 firewall with dnsd. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] drakfonts unreadable
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 23.41, Luca Berra wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 11:28:46PM +0200, guran wrote: Hi Hd.img installation VERSION: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030902 14:27 /ChangeLog/1.829/Sat Aug 30 01:04:19 2003// This is from syslog: ... Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: xfs startup succeeded Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont (unreadable) this means you never used drakfont to import external fonts in your system. Sep 2 22:13:54 localhost xfs: ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled (unreadable this means the 100dpi fonts are not installed those errors are harmless, but they could as well be fixed file bugs vs xfs (default font path contains optional entries) drakfont (use chkfontpath when needed) Thanks guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] java as per default in konqueror
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 00.52, Pierre Jarillon wrote: Le Mardi 2 Septembre 2003 17:07, guran a écrit : In konqueror java is supposed to be found as something like /usr/lib/j2re_1_4_1. At Sun the latest is: j2re_1_4_2_01-linux-i586, when installed it is found by mozilla but konqueror has to be manually set as /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/java. From there working nice. I made this symbolic link : /usr/bin/java - /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_02/bin/java With an other install there was something more complicated : /usr/bin/java - /etc/alternatives/java - /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_02/bin/java In any case, this was too much complicated for a beginner. What is the best solution and how create the right link ? IMHO, this should be either in the rpm or in configuration panel (konqueror?) Well, the java installation in konqueror is to my view pointing at a directory where there it is not to be found any java. As this is just a browsing direction the user does not have to make any link if the search is written as, /usr/java/java-something/bin/java. With this construction the user might find the right file. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb?
Hi I have an installation for update like: ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi.addmedia update01 ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz ... When I run this I get something like: ... found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as ../base/hdlist.cz ...retrieving done examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update01.cz] ... This is to my understanding quite correct. But when I do an update like: ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi.update --wget -a urpmi --wget --auto-select --auto ... then I get the following: ... computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update01.cz] examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update01.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium update01 computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) examining MD5SUM file examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update02.cz] examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update02.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium update02 unable to access hdlist file of update01, medium ignored unable to access hdlist file of update02, medium ignored Everything already installed ... The examined line indicates to me that urpmi has left out the 'direction' to the file it has controlled and found OK, so the update can't continue. In the working directory I found the following:(taken from mc) ... !hdlist.update01.cz 33Sep 3 07:31 !hdlist.update02.cz 28Sep 3 07:31 !synthesis.hdlist.update01.cz43Sep 3 07:31 !synthesis.hdlist.update02.cz38Sep 3 07:31 ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# rpm -qa urpmi* urpmi-4.4-29mdk regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Main mirror BROKEN AGAIN!!!!!
On Friday 29 August 2003 08.52, Michael Scherer wrote: On Thursday 28 August 2003 22:57, dave wrote: The main mirror sunsite.uio.no is not current again. It has not received an update in over 2 days!!! if the main mirror is broken, can you explain why I have yesterday update on the one i am using ( sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de ) Thanks, good mail. I am currently changing from rsync and ftp.uninett.no to fmirror and sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de, and it gives about 600 kb/s. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.1mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the thruth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Main mirror BROKEN AGAIN!!!!!
On Friday 29 August 2003 10.41, Mark Draheim wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:52:10 +0200 Michael Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if there is a problem with a mirror, then you should write to mirror administrator, not to mandrake developpers. I have written to them: ... pb's with mandrake-devel sync To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Today 11.02.43 are you suggesting that suddenly nearly all of the admins went on holiday? in fact, I've given up on cooker for now. I have only given up to install as my new mirror is incomplete with regards of KDE. I am not using anything of gnome. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.1mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] ext3 treated as ext2 with forced check
Hi I just tried to do an installation and noticed that some important packages was out so I did a reboot. My total box was clearly not correctly unmounted which forced a complete check. After the first partition an 'Automatic reboot was in progress' and executed. 70 GB treated as ext2 when is ext3, nice. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.0.8mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the thruth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Has dd changed?
Hi When I use dd to copy a hd.img to a floppy it writes 2880 records in 2880 records out befor it starts to write to disk. To me this indicates that the volume is controlled against the forked process not against the written record on disk. Thus earlier the written message was written after the writing to disk. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.0.8mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the thruth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] urpmi pb
Hi When I used urpmi.update --wget -a urpmi --wget --auto-select --auto I got bugreport: ... write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg] ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/ldconfig-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/glibc-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm The following packages have bad signatures: /mnt/hd/manne/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1-1mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (sha1 md5 OK) ... As I don't use mozilla i tried: ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# urpmi ldconfig Installation failed, some files are missing: ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/ldconfig-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/ldconfig-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm ... AS I have a complete mirror I went there and did: ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# urpmi ldconfig-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm installing ldconfig-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:ldconfig ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# urpmi glibc-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (16 MB): glibc-2.3.2-13mdk.i586 glibc-devel-2.3.2-13mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/glibc-devel-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm installing glibc-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed: glibc = 2.3.2-12mdk is needed by (installed) glibc-devel-2.3.2-12mdk Installation failed, some files are missing: ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/glibc-devel-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# urpmi glibc-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm installing glibc-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.3.2-13mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:glibc ## 2:glibc-devel## ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# rpm -qa urpmi* urpmi-4.4-25mdk regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.1mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the thruth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Hd.img installation per 20030825
Hi Version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030825 13:51 GUI installation in complete hang on GTK, auto made the box ready for reboot. Did a text install. Unable to change country. Unable to set hostname with dhcp. Printer auto found and set to HP 710C but final setup = HP 712C. GPG OK as urpmi install correct. Will never use Mdk firsttimewizard, where is the KDE one. Got tired of manual install of KDE. On my Crux or Archlinux I don't install GTK or Gnome at all. When KDE is OK I will report again. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.0.8mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the thruth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4871] [userdrake] New: closes unexpectedly when adding a new user
sndagen den 24 augusti 2003 17.42 skrev [narfi]: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4871 Product: userdrake Component: program Summary: closes unexpectedly when adding a new user Product: userdrake Version: 0.92-20mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I start userdrake and press the add-user button. I then type in the username and passwd and press ok. Userdrake immediately halts with the following message on the command line: #userdrake Undefined subroutine main::explanations called at /usr/sbin/userdrake line 312. This is with: # rpm -q userdrake userdrake-0.92-20mdk Confirmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# linuxconf Error message from remadmin :Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Error message from remadmin :Xlib: No protocol specified Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# userdrake Undefined subroutine main::explanations called at /usr/sbin/userdrake line 312. [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# rpm -qa userdrake userdrake-0.92-20mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.7mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 2731] [kdebase] sub-pixel hinting cannot be enabled in LM9.1rc2/LM9.1/LM9.2beta2
sndagen den 24 augusti 2003 19.40 skrev [ndeb]: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added --- - Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED Resolution|FIXED | Summary|sub-pixel hinting cannot be |sub-pixel hinting cannot be |enabled in mdk-9.1rc2 |enabled in | ||LM9.1rc2/LM9.1/LM9.2beta2 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-24-08 19:40 --- Just noticed that the bug is definitely present in LM9.2beta2. Confirmed for Cooker Version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030823 10:23 guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.7mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 4720] [drakxtools] Selected printer model not visible in the window
On Monday 25 August 2003 01.24, [till] wrote: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4720 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-25-08 01:24 --- Which is your printer model and which is your driver? Are you using expert or normal mode. With the most current drakxtools I cannot reproduce the bug, for my printers the list entry is always visible. I have the same on HP 710C, i.e. not visible and indicated as HP712C regards guran -- Arch Linux 0.5 kernel-2.4.21 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is true can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] On UTF8 pb's
Hi Mostly I use languages setted as en-US plus sv or reversed which when using Mdk puts me in UTF8 'mode'. For me that means that the virtual terminals in CLI are completely useless. I use mc a lot, and it is very complicated indeed, most things are floating together. As a result I really never use Mdk 9.1 because of that reason. To make a reboot in todays Cooker, here are some interesting results. In KDE press Ctrl-Alt-Delete. When in terminal repeat Ctrl-Alt-Delete Here I get a hang of the reboot at: ;2R When I press Enter, I get: -bash; syntax error near unexpected token `;' write ls plus Enter - you get the usual results. write su plus Enter, Enter and the reboot continous. Very intelligent implementation of human commands. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.7mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] latex2html needs perl(Win32) to be loadeed.
Hi
I have problem to identify what perl(Win32) is.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# urpmi latex2html-2002-5mdk.noarch.rpm
Some package requested cannot be installed:
latex2html-2002-5mdk.noarch (due to unsatisfied perl(Win32)) (Y/n)
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# rpm -ivh latex2html*
error: Failed dependencies:
perl(Win32) is needed by latex2html-2002-5mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] manne]# urpmf perl(Win32)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] latex2html needs perl(Win32) to be loadeed.
On Friday 22 August 2003 13.08, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait guran : Hi I have problem to identify what perl(Win32) is. just win32 perl modules you obviously not need here, so you can use --nodeps safely. BTW, hevea is way better than latex2html :-) Thanks, I had already installed 4MB stuff of apche and mod_perl without getting any solution. My use of latex2html is to be able to export html papers from LyX. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Atension! for Cooker mirrors and directories!?
Hi I was looking at my new mirror from uninett when I noticed: !RPMS2 !RPMS3 When I checked the were like: ../../../contrib/RPMS and ../../../contrib/jpackage/RPMS/ Where is the i586 directory? Are we going to have to make a full new download again? regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Failure to boot of hd.img installation
Hi Version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030821 21:17 /ChangeLog/1.822/Thu Aug 21 18:00:38 2003// The boot of this installation failed to mount the ext3 filesystem, first tried to use ext2 then a complete hang and wanted me to check the shit, so I bailed out. Thus the boot has no logs. OBSERVANDUM, the same partition is mounted on this older cooker with no pb. lang: sv +en-US When chosing mount points , it is a pity that there is no possibility to import the other correctly found partitions and their names. Nice way to chose formatting. When asking for 'packages' I took everything to the left plus firewall and got 1958 MB then I asked for singular package selection and was given 1614 MB with added LyX, i.e. inclusion of tetex. A pity lyx is compiled with xform when qt is enough. Printer: The printer was identified by program but not shown in 'naming-box'. no driver set = raw c, asked for HP 710C manually, found that no data was given in probably advanced setting for ink and margins c. Skipped printer. That is what I found guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Setting of name for 'localhost' is malfunctioning
On Friday 22 August 2003 14.21, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Any comment on this??? Buchan Milne wrote: Damien Chaumette wrote: Well, there are mutliples cases : o static IP you set your HOSTNAME (/etc/sysconfig/network) o DHCP you can ask a name to your DHCP server (DHCP_HOSTNAME), and it'll return either this one or another, then initscripts use it as your HOSTNAME. What if the dhcp server returns dhcp-vlan-adsl-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.myisp.mydomain.com and the user doesn't want to have hostname dhcp-vlan-adsl-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx as hostname? Then you have zeroconf which is subdivided in two parts : o zcip which handle the IP dynamic configuration (only with DHCP) o tmdns always installed, to resolve names. Zeroconf hostname (/etc/tmdns.conf) is set to your real hostname value by default or one you specified in drakconnect. IMHO this is wrong. Hostname should be set, tmdns will use `hostname` if you don't set it manually in the config file. There is no case where you will want a different hostname taken by tmdns than `hostname`, so IMHO drakconnect should leave tmdns.conf alone. BTW, I think this issue is also causing problems for samba, since often HOSTNAME is unset, so `hostname` gives localhost. Then, samba uses this hostname, and clients try to connect to \\localhost, which obviously does not work. Also, this breaks the winbind setup, since 'smbpasswd -j' will either try and join to a pre-made account (in the case of a non-admin join), as localhost (which will not work), or it will try and create a new account (in the case of an admin-join), which will only work for the first machine joined this way (if at all). Finally, a number of packages generate self-signed certificates, either during installation or for first startup, and then the cert will have 'CN=localhost', so if ther use changes the hostname, they will have to regenerate or live with the complaints. This is a really major issue. No machine should *ever* use localhost as it's hostname if it is connected to a network, especially if running samba, cups, apache etc etc. I think I must file a bug on drakconnect, but I haven't had time to test this myself. Let user set a hardcoded hostname when using dhcp will only lead to unresolved names. No, that's precisely *why* tmdns will *default* to using the set hostname!!! It's fine if the IP resolves to multiple hostnames, but it's better that it resolves to the name the user wants (but this should be an advanced configuration). Please consider this issue ... it should not be necessary to touch tmdns.conf. Ever. Regards, Buchan I think you may rest on this pb as the new installation may have done the right thing. As a user I have the possibility to add both zeroconf and the full name of the computer. I used both and got: zeroconf = Pelles full hostname = Pelles.brisen.home.lan And got the following in /etc/sysconfig/network: HOSTNAME=Pelles.brisen.home.lan NETWORKING=yes The installation failed to boot but they seem to be on the right way. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Pathetic that box is to be named 'localhost' when using DNS
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 13.29, Buchan Milne wrote: Before you post this again, at least post the contents of /etc/sysconfig/network [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]# guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] Setting of name for 'localhost' is malfunctioning
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 18.53, Damien Chaumette wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (guran) writes: On Sunday 17 August 2003 13.24, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, guran wrote: Hi Hd.img installation per 20030817 VERSION Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030816 21:26 I have a firewall that runs a dhcpd on a Mdk 9.0. This is from my syslog: ( check out how postfix is trembling in respons to 'localhost',[EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$) ... Yes, it is well-known that mail servers will not like using localhost as hostname. What is your point? What does `hostname` say? How/where did you set the hostname? What software do you think is at fault for this (or did you just not set the hostname)? You can always edit your /etc/postfix/main.cf, or turn postfix off, or many other things, but you haven't given us any useful informatio on what you are trying to accomplish, what you did etc etc, so currently your post doesn't help fix whatever you think is broken. Regards, Buchan I was trying to report something that I thought was a bug. During installation of LAN i used the graphic set and to 'zeroconf' I added Pelles as the name with no dots. In syslog you can see that mdk writes Aug 17 09:55:29 localhost tmdns[1665]: claim name Pelles.local, type 1 That is as far as that information gets. To my understanding the installation should put that name correctly into postfix. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 in shabby Gnome on kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has defined what is the truth can the Linux users choice be deminished. Well, there are mutliples cases : o static IP you set your HOSTNAME (/etc/sysconfig/network) o DHCP you can ask a name to your DHCP server (DHCP_HOSTNAME), and it'll return either this one or another, then initscripts use it as your HOSTNAME. Then you have zeroconf which is subdivided in two parts : o zcip which handle the IP dynamic configuration (only with DHCP) o tmdns always installed, to resolve names. Zeroconf hostname (/etc/tmdns.conf) is set to your real hostname value by default or one you specified in drakconnect. Let user set a hardcoded hostname when using dhcp will only lead to unresolved names. I think you and I are discussing different things. On this old box I have Crux 1.1, Arch 0.5, Slackware 9.0 RedHat 9.0 and I can tell you that all of them are capble of two things: 1 They are faster to contact my firewall Mdk 9.0. 2 They all give me the desired name in the 'terminal'. As you write up here you seem to know the very strings that all these 'functions' are using. How very difficult should it be to change a taken localhost.localdomain from the firewall and change it to Name.localdomain. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
Re:Re: [Cooker] Invalid Key ID
Hi
Version:
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030818 21:08
/ChangeLog/1.819/Mon Aug 18 17:55:29 2003//
lang: en-US + sv = UTF8
This is what I get when doing:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] share]# urpmi.update --wget -a urpmi --wget --auto-select
--auto
...
The following packages have bad signatures:
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-9.2-0.31mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid Key ID ((sha1)
dsa sha1 md5 gpg GPG#70771ff3 OK)
So first I check:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] share]# rpm -qa 'gpg-pubkey*'
gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3c8f768f
gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de
gpg-pubkey-9b4a4024-3874ddfb
Then I go into /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg :
update01
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
{
hdlist: hdlist.update01.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
md5sum: 8c5bb796203bdd9b6694550e49b6f8b4
key-ids: 9b4a4024
and change 9bc to 70c
then I repeat urpmi and everything is nice.
guran
--
Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk
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can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
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[Cooker] Hd.img installation per 20030819
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[Cooker] Pathetic that box is to be named 'localhost' when using DNS
Hi Version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030819 21:53 lang: sv + en-US Lan installation unable to grab the given 'zeroconf' name. guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] hd.img installation per 20030818
Hi Version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030818 21:08 /ChangeLog/1.819/Mon Aug 18 17:55:29 2003// lang: en-US + sv = UTF8 After having asked for everything to the left plus firewall = 1876 MB Asked for Individual package selection = 704 MB - skipped that last shit as OpenOffice was 'unable to add package'. Pathetic repeat of old bug. Unable to use FirstTime Wizard as I use two different servers for my Kmail. After boot = no icons for cdrom, floppy and zip = KDE Central Mode and changed for visible icon. = the only thing that happened was that my old icons dansed for a couple of seconds. No Kdebase-konsole had to add that manually. Passwd OK My box is still called 'localhost' and postfix is crying in syslog. I will repeat that my firewall and DNS server does not contain any data as to name of user or boxes. Looking like a nice new Mdk guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Pb to print in KDE Konqueror
Hi Version: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030818 21:08 /ChangeLog/1.819/Mon Aug 18 17:55:29 2003// lang: en-US + sv = UTF8 When in konqueror and asking for printer to accept a job, the printing utillity is not by auto set to Cups. I think that that is a miss. When trying to use preview I get: 'Warning - Konqueror Preview failed: unable to start program Kuick Copy and Move. Do you want to continue printing anyway?' After that I try tp print the page http://www.crux.nu. This was because i use a minimum font of 16, and earlier I had noticed that this screen font was sent to the printer and not all of the page was printed. Today I only get a small line at the top of the page saying: 2003-08-19 ... http://www.cruc.nu ... #1 I am really saving ink this way! guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] unicode - Segmentation fault
Hi Hd.img installation per 20030817 VERSION Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030816 21:26 Could not do any adjustments and configurations in KDE so running from slow and rigid Gnome. This is from boot.log: Aug 17 09:53:54 localhost unicode_start: ^[%G Aug 17 09:53:54 localhost unicode_start: /bin/unicode_start: line 23:41 Segmentation fault consolechars --font=$1 Aug 17 09:53:54 localhost rc.sysinit: Setting default font (lat0-16): succeeded regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 in shabby Gnome on kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has defined what is the truth can the Linux users choice be deminished.
[Cooker] Setting of name for 'localhost' is malfunctioning
Hi Hd.img installation per 20030817 VERSION Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030816 21:26 I have a firewall that runs a dhcpd on a Mdk 9.0. This is from my syslog: ( check out how postfix is trembling in respons to 'localhost',[EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$) ... Aug 17 09:55:29 localhost tmdns[1665]: claim name Pelles.local, type 1 Aug 17 09:55:30 localhost xinetd[1692]: xinetd Version 2.3.11 started with libwrap options compiled in. Aug 17 09:55:30 localhost xinetd[1692]: Started working: 1 available service Aug 17 09:55:32 localhost xinetd: xinetd startup succeeded Aug 17 09:55:32 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling). Aug 17 09:55:37 localhost cups: cupsd startup succeeded Aug 17 09:55:37 localhost nfs: Starting NFS services: succeeded Aug 17 09:55:37 localhost nfs: rpc.nfsd startup succeeded Aug 17 09:55:37 localhost nfs: rpc.mountd startup succeeded Aug 17 09:55:37 localhost loadkeys: Loading /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/se-latin1.kmap.gz Aug 17 09:55:37 localhost keytable: Loading keymap: se-latin1 succeeded Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost loadkeys: Loading /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/include/compose.latin.inc.gz Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost keytable: Loading compose keys: compose.latin.inc succeeded Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost keytable: succeeded Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost postfix: Starting postfix: Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost postfix: postalias: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost postfix: postmap: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost last message repeated 4 times Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost postfix[1960]: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:38 localhost postfix/master[1961]: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/postfix-script: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/postfix-script: warning: /var/spool/postfix/etc/localtime and /etc/localtime differ Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/postfix-script: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/postfix-script: warning: /var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts and /etc/hosts differ Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/postsuper[2026]: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/postfix-script: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix/master[2030]: warning: My hostname localhost is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Aug 17 09:55:39 localhost postfix: succeeded regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 in shabby Gnome on kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has defined what is the truth can the Linux users choice be deminished.
Re: [Cooker] Setting of name for 'localhost' is malfunctioning
On Sunday 17 August 2003 13.24, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, guran wrote: Hi Hd.img installation per 20030817 VERSION Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20030816 21:26 I have a firewall that runs a dhcpd on a Mdk 9.0. This is from my syslog: ( check out how postfix is trembling in respons to 'localhost',[EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$) ... Yes, it is well-known that mail servers will not like using localhost as hostname. What is your point? What does `hostname` say? How/where did you set the hostname? What software do you think is at fault for this (or did you just not set the hostname)? You can always edit your /etc/postfix/main.cf, or turn postfix off, or many other things, but you haven't given us any useful informatio on what you are trying to accomplish, what you did etc etc, so currently your post doesn't help fix whatever you think is broken. Regards, Buchan I was trying to report something that I thought was a bug. During installation of LAN i used the graphic set and to 'zeroconf' I added Pelles as the name with no dots. In syslog you can see that mdk writes Aug 17 09:55:29 localhost tmdns[1665]: claim name Pelles.local, type 1 That is as far as that information gets. To my understanding the installation should put that name correctly into postfix. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 in shabby Gnome on kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has defined what is the truth can the Linux users choice be deminished.
[Cooker] The user passwd is not moved to shadow!?
Hi The title. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.0.6mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the results from the evolution of life be defined false.
