Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xfce4-4.0.0-1mdk

2003-11-16 Thread Marcel Pol
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 02:58:19 +0100
andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 13 November 2003 15:42, Marcel Pol wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:01:31 +0100
> >
> > Torstein Dybdahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It would be nice to have xfce4 added to the displaymanager choices.
> >
> > The session script is already there, but it doesn't get configured from
> > the%postinstall script. There are more small things like this that needs
> > to be done.
> > When you run /usr/sbin/fndSession, does it get listed in your dm?
> 
> could you change /etc/X11/wmsession.d/10XFce4 to a higher number. Xtart wont
> 
> work with otherwise. I would suggest to change it to 40 to 
> get /etc/X11/wmsession.d/40XFce4

I just changed it to 06XFce4 in xfwm-4.0.1-1mdk, to have the same number as
XFce (3), which it should replace.

Why is it a problem, is it because there is already a session file with the
same number?
Fvwm provides a /etc/X11/wmsession.d/10Fvwm1
Or is there another reason? If it's broken, I'm willing to fix it, but if
Xtart is broken, why should I fix xfce? Can you provide more information?

Also, could people test the session script? 
I have local problems with login, and have a hard time testing this feature.
If someone can confirm that it works on gdm/xdm/kdm/mdkkdm, that would be
great.

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Re: Re[2]: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs on the mirrors.

2003-11-16 Thread bgmilne
>
> --- Galileo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> O> Ouch
>> There is no need for it now since the LG released
>> updates for their
>> firmware and procedure how to fix the dead drives.
>> It would be nice if Mandrake would release updated
>> iso-s for
>> club members or a howto on how to do it ourselves.
>> btw does this mean that the updated kernel is not
>> necessary ?
>> Are there any changes in the updated kernel except
>> the packet writing
>> being left out ?
>
> There are other fixes such as the issue with Phillips
> webcams freezing Mandrake (see errata).

But that certainly doesn't need a new ISO.





[Cooker] KDE 3.2 beta1 - KDM Session Type Selection

2003-11-16 Thread Jure Repinc
I just installed KDE 3.2 beta 1 from Cooker (kdebase-kdm 3.1.93 -23mdk) 
and I have found a problem with KDM session type selection. It just 
doesn't work. It always starts IceWM even if I select something else.

Is this a known problem? Is there any fix available for it?




[Cooker] [Bug 6037] [xawtv] xawtv segfault with latest kernel 2.4.22

2003-11-16 Thread [baud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6037





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Here is more information with gdb xawtv (I've removed unnecessary display)
GNU gdb 5.3-25mdk (Mandrake Linux)
This GDB was configured as "i586-mandrake-linux-gnu"...(no debugging symbols
found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/xawtv
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging
symbols found)...
This is xawtv-3.88, running on Linux/i686 (2.4.22-21mdk)
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x080706f9 in ng_attr_getstr ()
(gdb) continue
Program terminated with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
The program no longer exists.

The window displays and then closes. This is with Mandrake 9.2 PowerPack (kernel
updated, though I had no LG drive)
This happens whether pwcx-2.4.20.o is loaded or not (for Gnomemeeting...),
Gnomemeeting is not running at the time of the bug.


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Following bug 5098, my webcam Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 worked and I've used
successfully xawtv.
Unfortunately, after upgrading kernel to latest (2.4.22-10mdk) xawtv does not
work any more.
It displays a window that immediately disappears and the terminal window shows
Segmentation Fault.
How can I analyze it ?
I've looked for xawtv-devel in order to recompile and launch gdb on it,
unfortunately I could not find it.
Do you want the core dump ? What else could I do to analyze the cause of this
seg fault ?
I'm running latest cooker (92rc3...).



Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:20, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > my current patch tarball is uploading
> > linux-test9s5.tar.bz2
> >
> 
> I tried 3rdparty but it won't work as is. Dynamically generating Makefile
> and 
> Kconfig highly confuses build system; BTW it won't even compile if all 
> 3rdparty are modules.

strange,
i never compiled smth in 3rdparty built in, always as modules,
and never had problems

> I suggest you use mkbuild.pl to generate static Makefile and Kconfig. How 
> often is it going to change? It could be done as part of making RPM.

i tried to follow the 2.4 way, and i had no problems so far
except that "make mrproper"  breaks "make clean" cause it deletes
3rdparty/Makefile

but it's pretty trivial to build it only once

> Setting 3rdparty as part of drivers-y forces it to expect
> 3rdparty/built-in.o 
> but it is not built unless something in 3rdparty is compiled as builtin. I
> 
> was about to initialize SUBDIRS but then it prevents from overriding it on
> 
> command line  probably something like
> 
> ifeq ($(origin SUBDIRS),file)
>  SUBDIRS+=3rdparty
> endif

may be adding to the Kconfig's in each 3rdparty tarball "select 3rdparty"
and 
-
drivers-y   := drivers/ sound/  
if $(CONFIG_3RDPARTY)
drivers-y   += 3rdparty/
endif
 
would fix it

> of course neither Makefile nor Kconfig should be removed by mrproper then.
> 
> BTW your current setup obviously does not work if srctree != buildtree. I 
> attempted to fix it but hopelessly failed :)

:(
never tried that 

what were the errors,
not finding some of the headers ?

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[Cooker] [Bug 6161] [drakxtools] Drakconnect automagically installs adiusbadsl without confirmation

2003-11-16 Thread [baud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6161


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I consider it closed, we are taking it into account in our developements.

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With Tux and Sl33p3r we are working of the next release of eagle-usb, the driver
formerly known as adiusbadsl for ADSL Modems Sagem Fast800, Comtrend CT350,
AT-AR215 (based on Analog Eagle Chip) used in France, England, Poland, Spain...

When launching Drakconnect, it keeps insisting on installing adiusbadsl-1.0.4
which overwrites the installation made from tar.gz and erases part of the
configuration.
Suppose there is an RPM v1.0.5 available, how would it replace the existing
1.0.4 version ? Would it be automagically installed ? From where ? As it would
not be the original cdrom and there are chances the internet connection is down...)

Could it be possible to deactivate this "functionality" not to be annoyed any
more ? And avoid losing configuration...

BTW, you are using a config file for pppd that is /etc/ppp/peers/adsl : is it
standard ? 
We had chosen /etc/ppp/options.adsl and had not clearly understood your move in
Mandrake 9.1, so that startadsl (provided by the same rpm) would not work
without manual creation of /etc/ppp/options.adsl from
/etc/ppp/options.adsl.template. Is it the same structure for all modem drivers 
(either dial-up or ADSL) and for other distributions ?
Where is there a recommendation to put it this way rather than the other ? We
would like to adapt our scripts to be fully compliant with Mandrake (and remain
compatible with other distributions as well).



Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 15:21, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> >
> > you missed my point. modular IDE is unsafe because there is no reference
> > counting for IDE modules. their patch does not change it, it just adds a
> > couple of EXPORT_MODULES. Nor does patch really fixes
> > MOD_{INC,DEC}_USE_COUNT
> > warnings
>
> the warnings could be easily fix> ed, no ?-) 
>

no. you can't just remove MOD_{INC,DEC}_USE_COUNT without providing 
alternative refcount mechanism. Warnings are put there for a reason :)

> > it can't be solved by fixing compilation problems, it needs serious
> > redesign
> > of IDE layer.
>
> that's true, but it's in that state for a long, long time
>
> and how many users are going to  load additional ide drivers once the
> system is up
> and running and unload the ide modules,  once they are loaded ?

PC card IDE? harddrake (or something else) probing for right driver for your 
card?

> without modular ide i don't think there is a way to really reduce the
> kernel size
>




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 15:10, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:31, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > > > --
> > > > arent the following pretty important,
> > > > and alwasys needed ?
> >
> > the right question is - are they needed to *boot* kernel?
> >
> > > > > > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > > > > > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> > > > >
> > > > > module
> > > > >
> > > > > >  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
> > > > > >  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> > > > > > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > > > > > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> > > > >
[...]
>
> you are right
> they are needed only for NFS root, which IIRC is disabled in the main 2.4
> kernel,
> but they should be loaded right after boot ( modprobe.preload ? )
>

they are loaded by virtue of MODULE_ALIAS magic :).

{pts/1}% modprobe -c | grep net-pf
alias net-pf-1 unix
alias net-pf-2 ipv4
alias net-pf-3 off
alias net-pf-4 ipx
alias net-pf-5 appletalk
alias net-pf-6 off
alias net-pf-10 off
alias net-pf-17 af_packet
alias net-pf-19 off


(those marked "off" still come from  static modprobe.default because they are 
not in kernel yet).




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:20, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:20:00 +0100 (MET)
> > >
> > > "Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing
> > > > > exported
> > > > > symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module
> reference
> > > > > counting
> > > > > (for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe. Which implies
> > > > > kernel must
> > > > > include all IDE drivers :(
> > > >
> > > > IIRC debian use it for ages
> > > > ( and they are far no that experimental as mandrake is)
> > > > and the kernel becomes really small
> > > >
> > > > with Os --  bzImage ~ 1400kb
> > > > with Os + modular ide -- ~ 11xx kb
> > > >
> > > > it should work, we only need to hack mkinitrd
> > > > & may be harddrake/ drakx
> > > > +++ include the debian patch
> > >
> > > I wonder how they do it.
> > > Is there a patch for modular IDE in their kenrel ?
> > > It is officially broken, even in 2.4 .
> >
> > yes, they do have patches both for 2.4 & for 2.6
> >
> 
> you missed my point. modular IDE is unsafe because there is no reference 
> counting for IDE modules. their patch does not change it, it just adds a 
> couple of EXPORT_MODULES. Nor does patch really fixes
> MOD_{INC,DEC}_USE_COUNT 
> warnings

the warnings could be easily fixed, no ?-)

> it can't be solved by fixing compilation problems, it needs serious
> redesign 
> of IDE layer.

that's true, but it's in that state for a long, long time

and how many users are going to  load additional ide drivers once the system
is up 
and running and unload the ide modules,  once they are loaded ?
without modular ide i don't think there is a way to really reduce the kernel
size

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[Cooker] [Bug 6187] [drakxtools] connection to Free Dégroupé with sagem fast800 to be adapted

2003-11-16 Thread [baud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6187





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Well there's a similar incident on MandrakeExpert... incident n° 72614
Thanks Clement, your description is very correct, I had not though of adding
internet start to startadsl script, that will do for others.
I still propose to work with Mandrake for the next version of the driver.
We have a developement wiki available here :
http://fast800.tuxfamily.org/eagledev/ and integration is running here
http://fast800.tuxfamily.org/eagledev/wakka.php?wiki=DeveloppementIntegration

First step would be to stabilize Drakconnect with eagle-usb 1.0.4 version before
moving to latest.

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Following bug 5690, there's still some work to achieve to make it work flawlessly
Here's the translation from a thread on eagle-usb forum
http://fast800.tuxfamily.org/forums/read.php?f=1&i=6761&t=6761

- in /etc/analog/adiusbadsl.conf, replace
VCI=0024 (instead of 23) and Encapsulation=0004 (instead of 6)

- files pap-secrets and chap-secrets are modified, which is useless as ppp is
not used with Free Dégroupé, /etc/ppp/peers/adsl does not seem created though
(which is correct)

- connection in action tries to launch both dhclient and dhcpd (one should be
enough, static configuration may be better in the end, just a suggestion below)
: erasing dhclient package makes it work correctly (to be reproduced)

Doing all this, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_up launches dhcpcd and
establishes the connection (as soon as Free makes it's own work).

Suggestion : dhcpcd is an heresy IMHO, asking for the static IP may be better in
order to configure (and establish) the connection, which would happen this way
/sbin/ifconfig eth1 @ip_static netmask 255.255.255.0 up
/sbin/route add default gw IP_GATEWAY
ip_static should be asked to the user (there's *always* a way to know it, either
with an URL or with a mail from the ISP)
I haven't yet found a way to determine IP_GATEWAY automatically : it depends on
the interface which is mounted.

This static manner of connection is correct for Telefonica "IP fija" in Spain as
the eagle-usb driver - formerly known as adiusbadsl - works with Sagem Fast800,
Comtrend CT-350 and AT-AR215 as well, modems distributed by many ISP worldwide
France, Spain, Germany, Poland, England to name a few... (VCI may have to be
adapted, though).



Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:20, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> my current patch tarball is uploading
> linux-test9s5.tar.bz2
>

I tried 3rdparty but it won't work as is. Dynamically generating Makefile and 
Kconfig highly confuses build system; BTW it won't even compile if all 
3rdparty are modules.

I suggest you use mkbuild.pl to generate static Makefile and Kconfig. How 
often is it going to change? It could be done as part of making RPM.

Setting 3rdparty as part of drivers-y forces it to expect 3rdparty/built-in.o 
but it is not built unless something in 3rdparty is compiled as builtin. I 
was about to initialize SUBDIRS but then it prevents from overriding it on 
command line  probably something like

ifeq ($(origin SUBDIRS),file)
 SUBDIRS+=3rdparty
endif

of course neither Makefile nor Kconfig should be removed by mrproper then.

BTW your current setup obviously does not work if srctree != buildtree. I 
attempted to fix it but hopelessly failed :)

-andrey




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:31, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > > --
> > > arent the following pretty important,
> > > and alwasys needed ?
> > >
> 
> the right question is - are they needed to *boot* kernel?
> 
> > > > > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > > > > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> > > >
> > > > module
> > > >
> > > > >  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
> > > > >  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> > > > > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > > > > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> > > >
> > > > module
> > >
> > > --
> > > and what about ipv4
> >
> > As I said in my other reply, I don't think these one should be build as
> > modules.
> >
> 
> I run all of them as modules and do not have any problems. Unless you boot
> 
> over LAN and need them to access root early. That is what I ask again -
> just 
> how many users do it? Can it go into yet another kernel? :) At least
> standard 
> kernel is targeted at home desktop users - am I wrong? 
> 

you are right
they are needed only for NFS root, which IIRC is disabled in the main 2.4
kernel,
but they should be loaded right after boot ( modprobe.preload ? )

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:56, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > >
> > > my current patch tarball is uploading
> > > linux-test9s5.tar.bz2
> > >
> > > nosrc.rpm && may be rpm after successfully recompile
> > > under the same kernel :-)
> > >
> 
> please keep just patches for us poor dial-upers as well :)

nosrc.rpm's will always be there 
and they are just the patch taball + rpm spec file

(
:-) unless i add --with-nvidia switch like the --with-matrox in xfree,
which will add 2-3 small patches
) 
> > > > by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ?
> > >
> > > because the maintainer is hiding somewhere :(
> >
> > Well, the packager (Chmouel) is gone, he doesn't work at
> > MandrakeSoft anymore.
> 
> module-init-tools have been maintained by thierry. I do not know about 
> hotplug.
> 
> > The real maintener is now Andrey, but I guess he hasn't rights to upload
> > in main. Who can volunteer ?
> >
> 
> once more - I do not have cooker so I cannot test it on cooker so I won't 
> upload them to cooker. So I hope someone who can build and test them on 
> cooker would do it.
> 
> > > > I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6
> > > > initrds.
> > >
> > > could you add cramfs support ?-)
> >
> > yes, no problem
> > Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ?
> >
> 
> I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on
> vanilla 
> kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going
> to 
> do it? You will get a flood of "bug reports" from users who compiled their
> 
> own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd.
> 
> So please make it off by default. I assume we could turn it on in kernel 
> post-install script.

that would really be the best way

> Is it really as good? Does it worth hassles?

it's pretty smaller, and ext2 is getting bigger & bigger (ea/acl)
  
> > >
> > > they could be loaded unconditionaly after root is mounted
> > > (there might be some warnings, but nothing that could harm the system)
> >
> > Do you want to try to load *all* mouse and keyboard drivers at boot ?
> > That might work, but hey, that's not so smart :)
> >
> 
> come on it is really just as smart as compiling all of them into kernel.
> But 
> it will keep *boot* kernel size small making it still possible to fit on a
> 
> floppy. 

i fear that without modular ide this wont be possible,
and mdk92 doesn't support it for 2.4 either
 
> Or we should officially use some higher density floppy format. Is floppy
> over 
> 1.44 possible?
> 

IIRC not on any hardware

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Re: Re[2]: [Cooker] 9.2 ISOs on the mirrors.

2003-11-16 Thread Vedran Ljubovic

--- Galileo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> O> Ouch
> There is no need for it now since the LG released
> updates for their
> firmware and procedure how to fix the dead drives.
> It would be nice if Mandrake would release updated
> iso-s for
> club members or a howto on how to do it ourselves.
> btw does this mean that the updated kernel is not
> necessary ?
> Are there any changes in the updated kernel except
> the packet writing
> being left out ?

There are other fixes such as the issue with Phillips
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:20, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:20:00 +0100 (MET)
> >
> > "Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing
> > > > exported
> > > > symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module reference
> > > > counting
> > > > (for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe. Which implies
> > > > kernel must
> > > > include all IDE drivers :(
> > >
> > > IIRC debian use it for ages
> > > ( and they are far no that experimental as mandrake is)
> > > and the kernel becomes really small
> > >
> > > with Os --  bzImage ~ 1400kb
> > > with Os + modular ide -- ~ 11xx kb
> > >
> > > it should work, we only need to hack mkinitrd
> > > & may be harddrake/ drakx
> > > +++ include the debian patch
> >
> > I wonder how they do it.
> > Is there a patch for modular IDE in their kenrel ?
> > It is officially broken, even in 2.4 .
>
> yes, they do have patches both for 2.4 & for 2.6
>

you missed my point. modular IDE is unsafe because there is no reference 
counting for IDE modules. their patch does not change it, it just adds a 
couple of EXPORT_MODULES. Nor does patch really fixes MOD_{INC,DEC}_USE_COUNT 
warnings

it can't be solved by fixing compilation problems, it needs serious redesign 
of IDE layer.




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:44, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > > --
> > > -CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y
> > > +CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
> >
> > I can't find where it is referenced
>
> in arch/i386/Kconfig
>

I mean - referenced in the *code*. this looks like leftover that is not more 
used.
[...]
>
> > > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> >
> > module
> >
> > > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> >
> > module
>
> I was not sure for those.
> Almost everybody use it, even if the box isn't networked.
>

see another mail. Is it needed to *boot* kernel?
[...]

> > There is no problem loading them out of initrd. Of course it needs
> > harddrake support finally.
> >
> > WDYT?
>

it does it already eevn if it does not autodetect them. We still need some 
extra code to configure correct modules; probably some ldetect enhancements.
[...]

> > > -CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
> >
> > why? OK diskless stations ... that is the only application that may
> > require it. this is rather special case for generic kernel?
>
> i'm not sure, some users may mount /home by NFS
> How many bytes is the nfs code ?
>

{pts/1}% LC_ALL=C ll fs/nfs/*ko
-rw-r--r--1 bor  bor209936 Nov  8 16:27 fs/nfs/nfs.ko
{pts/1}% size fs/nfs/*ko
   textdata bss dec hex filename
 1536303468  60  157158   265e6 fs/nfs/nfs.ko

this is with most debugging options on.





Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:31, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > --
> > arent the following pretty important,
> > and alwasys needed ?
> >

the right question is - are they needed to *boot* kernel?

> > > > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > > > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> > >
> > > module
> > >
> > > >  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
> > > >  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> > > > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > > > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> > >
> > > module
> >
> > --
> > and what about ipv4
>
> As I said in my other reply, I don't think these one should be build as
> modules.
>

I run all of them as modules and do not have any problems. Unless you boot 
over LAN and need them to access root early. That is what I ask again - just 
how many users do it? Can it go into yet another kernel? :) At least standard 
kernel is targeted at home desktop users - am I wrong? 




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:56, Olivier Blin wrote:
> >
> > my current patch tarball is uploading
> > linux-test9s5.tar.bz2
> >
> > nosrc.rpm && may be rpm after successfully recompile
> > under the same kernel :-)
> >

please keep just patches for us poor dial-upers as well :)

> > > by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ?
> >
> > because the maintainer is hiding somewhere :(
>
> Well, the packager (Chmouel) is gone, he doesn't work at
> MandrakeSoft anymore.

module-init-tools have been maintained by thierry. I do not know about 
hotplug.

> The real maintener is now Andrey, but I guess he hasn't rights to upload
> in main. Who can volunteer ?
>

once more - I do not have cooker so I cannot test it on cooker so I won't 
upload them to cooker. So I hope someone who can build and test them on 
cooker would do it.

> > > I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6
> > > initrds.
> >
> > could you add cramfs support ?-)
>
> yes, no problem
> Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ?
>

I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on vanilla 
kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going to 
do it? You will get a flood of "bug reports" from users who compiled their 
own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd.

So please make it off by default. I assume we could turn it on in kernel 
post-install script.

Is it really as good? Does it worth hassles?

> >
> > they could be loaded unconditionaly after root is mounted
> > (there might be some warnings, but nothing that could harm the system)
>
> Do you want to try to load *all* mouse and keyboard drivers at boot ?
> That might work, but hey, that's not so smart :)
>

come on it is really just as smart as compiling all of them into kernel. But 
it will keep *boot* kernel size small making it still possible to fit on a 
floppy. 

Or we should officially use some higher density floppy format. Is floppy over 
1.44 possible?




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sunday 16 November 2003 08:15, Olivier Blin wrote:
>
> > PS.
> > if i only could compile
> > # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
> > # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX_OLD is not set
> > # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC79XX is not set
> >
> > :(
>
> It builds fine here :)

it does not build with src dir != build dir. At lease aic7xxx not sure about 
two others, but I disabled all of them as well :)




[Cooker] [Bug 2971] [speedtouch] error running script speedtouch.sh

2003-11-16 Thread [frederic.conrotte]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2971





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speedtouch.sh

I've amended the "unload_kernel_module" function to unload all the modules
related to usbcore and then unload usbcore is successfull

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returns this:

Shutting down ADSL connection:usbcore: Device or resource busy
[ECHEC ]



Re: [Cooker] xscreensaver can't lock screen properly

2003-11-15 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:02:20 -0500
illogic-al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:

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> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:04 -0500
> >
> > illogic-al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:
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> > > i'm using mdk 9.2 and whenever i use xscreensaver to lock the desktop
> > > (kde or gnome) when it comes to to verify my password it says that my
> > > pass is wrong This leads to me having to kill xscreensaver from the
> > > console which then kills X. grr.
> > > THere must be some permissions problems here or maybe this is a bug.
> > > anyone els with this problem
> > > - --
> > > for a good time see www.I-Kubed.Org
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> > I'm using it with Fluxbox and IceWM with no troubles.  Cooker 10.0 but
> > no KDE and minimal Gnome libraries only.
> >
> > Tim
> i want to know if anyone has probs wih 9.2 rpm or if it's just me
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My xscreensaver is 4.14-3mdk.  What 9.2 rpm are you asking about?  Cooker
10.0 is just some new version apps on top of Mandrake 9.2 right now.

What xscreensaver, KDE and Gnome versions do you have?


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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:06:41 +0100 (MET)
"Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> :-)  i found a suse 2.6 rpm -- check the patch tarball
> 
> suse have ea + acl for ext2/3 reiserfs jfs & xfs for more then a year
> :(

ok, I'll have a look

> PS.
> if i only could compile 
> # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
> # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX_OLD is not set
> # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC79XX is not set
> :(

It builds fine here :)

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:55:50 +0100 (MET)
"Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Nice, why not uploading your package to contrib ?
> 
> long time ago i wanted to submit similar multi-user kernel (based on
> 2.4), but really a lot of people didn't want yet another kernel :(

Yep, that's a rather specific kernel :-/

> but i would be happy if you merge some things and help me to fix the
> remaining issues:

I'll be glad to help you

> - the 3rdparty merge -- make clean after make mrproper

I'll have a look, what do you mean by "make clean after make mrproper" ?

> - kernel source ?

What's the matter

> - more extra drivers ?

Which ones ? Nobody has asked so far for new drivers ...

> (maybe forward my prism2.5 fixup to the wlan-ng ml
> as they don't like my web mail ((patch  MD01..)) and ask them
> wether it seems correct).  

added in my todo list

> > Could you please make your kernel config file available so that we
> > can discuss a bit more about options ?
> 
> they are already there :-)

I've found (see my other post)

> > > could you add cramfs support ?-)
> > 
> > yes, no problem
> > Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ?
> 
> initially yes,
> but i've the impression that 2.4 could also switch to it,
> and may be it will become the default
> :-)

yes, but it's not supported by mkinitrd

> > Do you want to try to load *all* mouse and keyboard drivers at boot
> > ? That might work, but hey, that's not so smart :)
> 
> ?-)
> and what do you mean by all ?
> 
> the mostly used are just two(sort of)
> the one that was always in the kernel psmouse
> and hid (usb stuff)

> are there more
> (not exotic, and currently handled mouse drivers ?)

that's why I meant by all :)

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:56:07 +0100
> Olivier Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Could you please make your kernel config file available so that we can
> > discuss a bit more about options ?
> 
> Nevermind, I've found it.
> How comes you have some extended attributes option for ReiserFS ?

:-)  i found a suse 2.6 rpm -- check the patch tarball

suse have ea + acl for ext2/3 reiserfs jfs & xfs for more then a year
:(

> You've enabled lots of DEBUG options (almost all).
> Is it really necessary ?

i'll have to clean them up  :(
no idea how happened

CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_PNP_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG=m
CONFIG_IP_VS_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_ATM_FORE200E_DEBUG=0
CONFIG_IRDA_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_HISAX_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_FT_NORMAL_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_USB_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_JBD_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_JFS_DEBUG=y
CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_DEBUG=0

that one is for SYSRQ

CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y



> I've found lots of forgotten modules in my config files thanks to yours.

:-)

svetljo

PS.
if i only could compile 
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX_OLD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC79XX is not set
:(

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Re: [Cooker] xscreensaver can't lock screen properly

2003-11-15 Thread illogic-al
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:06 pm, Tim Sawchuck wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:04 -0500
>
> illogic-al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > i'm using mdk 9.2 and whenever i use xscreensaver to lock the desktop
> > (kde or gnome) when it comes to to verify my password it says that my
> > pass is wrong This leads to me having to kill xscreensaver from the
> > console which then kills X. grr.
> > THere must be some permissions problems here or maybe this is a bug.
> > anyone els with this problem
> > - --
> > for a good time see www.I-Kubed.Org
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>
> I'm using it with Fluxbox and IceWM with no troubles.  Cooker 10.0 but no
> KDE and minimal Gnome libraries only.
>
> Tim
i want to know if anyone has probs wih 9.2 rpm or if it's just me
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[Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?

2003-11-15 Thread Sharrea
On Saturday 25 Oct 2003 13:19:33 -0700 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 25 October 2003 10:06 am, Warly wrote:
> >
> > 2nd solution, remaster the CD. Use the config files into the misc dir
> > into repositories. Replace the list line with
> >
> > list -k cooker_key_file -k update_key_file 1 cooker_path/misc/download
> > cooker_path_/misc/main rpmlist -b update_RPMS/
> > rpmlist -b 9.2_RPMS/

> Do you have to replace the RPMS in the Mandrake/RPMS directory with the 
> updated ones, or does this just tell mkcd to look in both the 
> Mandrake/RPMS and updates/RPMS directory and then takes the newer of the 
> packages for the isos?

> This is what those lines look like now in the 92.conf file

> list -k /Mandrake/base/pubkey 1 /download \
>  /main
> rpmlist -b /RPMS

Greg, how did you get on with this?

Did you copy the updated RPMs into the Mandrake/RPMS, Mandrake/RPMS2, 
Mandrake/RPMS3 directories?

What do  and  actually refer to?

I'm having a hell of a job getting this to work.  I added an extra directory 
for plf and contrib RPMS and ended up with 6 ISOs but many files were 
rejected because of missing dependencies.  Also the 1st CD ISO is not made 
which contains the kernel.

I'm not actually using Cooker but want to include all "update" RPMs.  Any 
advice would be much appreciated.

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[Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?

2003-11-15 Thread Sharrea Day
On Saturday 25 Oct 2003 13:19:33 -0700 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 25 October 2003 10:06 am, Warly wrote:
> >
> > 2nd solution, remaster the CD. Use the config files into the misc dir
> > into repositories. Replace the list line with
> >
> > list -k cooker_key_file -k update_key_file 1 cooker_path/misc/download
> > cooker_path_/misc/main rpmlist -b update_RPMS/
> > rpmlist -b 9.2_RPMS/

> Do you have to replace the RPMS in the Mandrake/RPMS directory with the 
> updated ones, or does this just tell mkcd to look in both the 
> Mandrake/RPMS and updates/RPMS directory and then takes the newer of the 
> packages for the isos?

> This is what those lines look like now in the 92.conf file

> list -k /Mandrake/base/pubkey 1 /download \
>  /main
> rpmlist -b /RPMS

Greg, how did you get on with this?

Did you copy the updated RPMs into the Mandrake/RPMS, Mandrake/RPMS2, 
Mandrake/RPMS3 directories?

What do  and  actually refer to?

I'm having a hell of a job getting this to work.  I added an extra directory 
for plf and contrib RPMS and ended up with 6 ISOs but many files were 
rejected because of missing dependencies.  Also the 1st CD ISO is not made 
which contains the kernel.

I'm not actually using Cooker but want to include all "update" RPMs.  Any 
advice would be much appreciated.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:20:24 +0100 (MET)
> "Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > I wonder how they do it.
> > > Is there a patch for modular IDE in their kenrel ?
> > > It is officially broken, even in 2.4 .
> > 
> > yes, they do have patches both for 2.4 & for 2.6
> > 
> > 2.6 patches uploaded
> > CA05-deb-modular_ide
> > DV20-deb-modular_vesafb
> > FC01-deb-cramfs_initrd
> 
> I'll have a look at them, thanks :)
> 
> > my changelog uploaded
> > CHANGES-2.6 
> > 
> > my current patch tarball is uploading 
> > linux-test9s5.tar.bz2
> > 
> > nosrc.rpm && may be rpm after successfully recompile 
> > under the same kernel :-)
> > 
> > url as always  http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/cook/2.6/
> 
> Nice, why not uploading your package to contrib ?

long time ago i wanted to submit similar multi-user kernel (based on 2.4),
but really a lot of people didn't want yet another kernel :(

but i would be happy if you merge some things and help me to fix the
remaining issues:
- the 3rdparty merge -- make clean after make mrproper
- kernel source ?
- more extra drivers ?

(maybe forward my prism2.5 fixup to the wlan-ng ml
as they don't like my web mail ((patch  MD01..)) and ask them
wether it seems correct).  

> Could you please make your kernel config file available so that we can
> discuss a bit more about options ?

they are already there :-)

http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/cook/2.6/configs-test9s5.tar.bz2

the patch tarball also finished uploading


> > could you add cramfs support ?-)
> 
> yes, no problem
> Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ?

initially yes,
but i've the impression that 2.4 could also switch to it,
and may be it will become the default
:-)

> 
> > but how do i find the config option ?
> > i could find only the atm drivers :(
> 
> It's called "Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM) (EXPERIMENTAL)", in
> "Networking options".

thanks 

> > > > do really want to put  mouse & co in initrd,
> > > > IMO it could be loaded if/when root is mounted
> > > 
> > > How to auto detect the right module to load ?
> > 
> > they could be loaded unconditionaly after root is mounted
> > (there might be some warnings, but nothing that could harm the system)
> 
> Do you want to try to load *all* mouse and keyboard drivers at boot ?
> That might work, but hey, that's not so smart :)

?-)
and what do you mean by all ?

the mostly used are just two(sort of)
the one that was always in the kernel psmouse
and hid (usb stuff)

are there more
(not exotic, and currently handled mouse drivers ?)
 
> 
> [ about console support ]
> > and these users will run not self compiled kernel ?
> > i'm not that sure :-)
> 
> I'll submit a poll on irc channels :)

:-)  interested in the results :-) 

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:56:07 +0100
Olivier Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Could you please make your kernel config file available so that we can
> discuss a bit more about options ?

Nevermind, I've found it.
How comes you have some extended attributes option for ReiserFS ?
You've enabled lots of DEBUG options (almost all).
Is it really necessary ?

I've found lots of forgotten modules in my config files thanks to yours.

Thanks again :)

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:20:24 +0100 (MET)
"Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I wonder how they do it.
> > Is there a patch for modular IDE in their kenrel ?
> > It is officially broken, even in 2.4 .
> 
> yes, they do have patches both for 2.4 & for 2.6
> 
> 2.6 patches uploaded
> CA05-deb-modular_ide
> DV20-deb-modular_vesafb
> FC01-deb-cramfs_initrd

I'll have a look at them, thanks :)

> my changelog uploaded
> CHANGES-2.6 
> 
> my current patch tarball is uploading 
> linux-test9s5.tar.bz2
> 
> nosrc.rpm && may be rpm after successfully recompile 
> under the same kernel :-)
> 
> url as always  http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/cook/2.6/

Nice, why not uploading your package to contrib ?
Could you please make your kernel config file available so that we can
discuss a bit more about options ?

> > > and if we go hacking mkinitrd, we make also add suport for cramfs
> > >  
> > > i'll upload it shortly to the usual place :-)
> done

Thanks again.

> > by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ?
> 
> because the maintainer is hiding somewhere :(

Well, the packager (Chmouel) is gone, he doesn't work at
MandrakeSoft anymore.
The real maintener is now Andrey, but I guess he hasn't rights to upload
in main. Who can volunteer ?

> > I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6
> > initrds.
> 
> could you add cramfs support ?-)

yes, no problem
Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ?

> but how do i find the config option ?
> i could find only the atm drivers :(

It's called "Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM) (EXPERIMENTAL)", in
"Networking options".

> > > do really want to put  mouse & co in initrd,
> > > IMO it could be loaded if/when root is mounted
> > 
> > How to auto detect the right module to load ?
> 
> they could be loaded unconditionaly after root is mounted
> (there might be some warnings, but nothing that could harm the system)

Do you want to try to load *all* mouse and keyboard drivers at boot ?
That might work, but hey, that's not so smart :)

[ about console support ]
> and these users will run not self compiled kernel ?
> i'm not that sure :-)

I'll submit a poll on irc channels :)

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[Cooker] Update mirrors not updated again

2003-11-15 Thread Greg Meyer
MDKA-2003:027 was issued on 11-14 and the rpms haven't hit the mirrors yet.  
Last update of mirrors was 11-12 when fileutils/coreutils was updated.  The 
RPMS are usually on the mirrors when the advidsory is released.  This 
happened once before with an earlier update. ???
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:20:00 +0100 (MET)
> "Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing
> > > exported 
> > > symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module reference
> > > counting 
> > > (for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe. Which implies
> > > kernel must 
> > > include all IDE drivers :(
> > 
> > IIRC debian use it for ages
> > ( and they are far no that experimental as mandrake is)
> > and the kernel becomes really small
> > 
> > with Os --  bzImage ~ 1400kb
> > with Os + modular ide -- ~ 11xx kb
> > 
> > it should work, we only need to hack mkinitrd 
> > & may be harddrake/ drakx
> > +++ include the debian patch
> 
> I wonder how they do it.
> Is there a patch for modular IDE in their kenrel ?
> It is officially broken, even in 2.4 .

yes, they do have patches both for 2.4 & for 2.6

2.6 patches uploaded
CA05-deb-modular_ide
DV20-deb-modular_vesafb
FC01-deb-cramfs_initrd

my changelog uploaded
CHANGES-2.6 

my current patch tarball is uploading 
linux-test9s5.tar.bz2

nosrc.rpm && may be rpm after successfully recompile 
under the same kernel :-)

url as always  http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/cook/2.6/

> > and if we go hacking mkinitrd, we make also add suport for cramfs
> >  
> > i'll upload it shortly to the usual place :-)
> 
> that would be great

done

> by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ?

because the maintainer is hiding somewhere :(

> I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6
> initrds.

could you add cramfs support ?-)

> 
> > --
> > arent the following pretty important,
> > and alwasys needed ?
> > 
> > > > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > > > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> > > 
> > > module
> > > 
> > > >  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
> > > >  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> > > > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > > > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> > > 
> > > module
> > --
> > and what about ipv4
> 
> As I said in my other reply, I don't think these one should be build as
> modules.
> 
> > > > -CONFIG_ATM=y
> > > > -CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=y
> > > > -# CONFIG_ATM_CLIP_NO_ICMP is not set
> > > > +CONFIG_ATM=m
> > > > +CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=m
> > > 
> > > come on really, should everyone have ATM?
> > > 
> > 
> > and if only could tell me where it is ?-)
> 
> He's right, really, it isn't needed :)
> 
> >From make menuconfig :
> 
> ATM is a high-speed networking technology for Local Area Networks   
> and Wide Area Networks.  It uses a fixed packet size and is  
> connection oriented, allowing for the negotiation of minimum   
> bandwidth requirements. 
> In order to participate in an ATM network, your Linux box needs an 
> ATM networking card.

but how do i find the config option ?
i could find only the atm drivers :(
 
> > do really want to put  mouse & co in initrd,
> > IMO it could be loaded if/when root is mounted
> 
> How to auto detect the right module to load ?
> 

they could be loaded unconditionaly after root is mounted
(there might be some warnings, but nothing that could harm the system)

> > > it needs to be builtin only to have console support ... not sure
> > > actually how 
> > > widely it is used. those needing it to debug are likely to know how
> > > to recompile kernel.
> > 
> > you are probably right ;-)
> 
> probably, but some users may use it to recover a almost-crashed kernel,
> it is worse including it ? how many bytes is it ?

and these users will run not self compiled kernel ?
i'm not that sure :-)

best,

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:20:00 +0100 (MET)
"Svetoslav Slavtchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing
> > exported 
> > symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module reference
> > counting 
> > (for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe. Which implies
> > kernel must 
> > include all IDE drivers :(
> 
> IIRC debian use it for ages
> ( and they are far no that experimental as mandrake is)
> and the kernel becomes really small
> 
> with Os --  bzImage ~ 1400kb
> with Os + modular ide -- ~ 11xx kb
> 
> it should work, we only need to hack mkinitrd 
> & may be harddrake/ drakx
> +++ include the debian patch

I wonder how they do it.
Is there a patch for modular IDE in their kenrel ?
It is officially broken, even in 2.4 .
 
> and if we go hacking mkinitrd, we make also add suport for cramfs
>  
> i'll upload it shortly to the usual place :-)

that would be great
by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ?
I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6
initrds.

> --
> arent the following pretty important,
> and alwasys needed ?
> 
> > > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> > 
> > module
> > 
> > >  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
> > >  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> > > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> > 
> > module
> --
> and what about ipv4

As I said in my other reply, I don't think these one should be build as
modules.

> > > -CONFIG_ATM=y
> > > -CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=y
> > > -# CONFIG_ATM_CLIP_NO_ICMP is not set
> > > +CONFIG_ATM=m
> > > +CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=m
> > 
> > come on really, should everyone have ATM?
> > 
> 
> and if only could tell me where it is ?-)

He's right, really, it isn't needed :)

>From make menuconfig :

ATM is a high-speed networking technology for Local Area Networks   
and Wide Area Networks.  It uses a fixed packet size and is  
connection oriented, allowing for the negotiation of minimum   
bandwidth requirements. 
In order to participate in an ATM network, your Linux box needs an 
ATM networking card.

> do really want to put  mouse & co in initrd,
> IMO it could be loaded if/when root is mounted

How to auto detect the right module to load ?

> > it needs to be builtin only to have console support ... not sure
> > actually how 
> > widely it is used. those needing it to debug are likely to know how
> > to recompile kernel.
> 
> you are probably right ;-)

probably, but some users may use it to recover a almost-crashed kernel,
it is worse including it ? how many bytes is it ?

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[Cooker] [Bug 6369] [mkinitrd] New: should not disable bootsplash in 2.6

2003-11-15 Thread [oliv.blin]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6369

   Summary: should not disable bootsplash in 2.6
   Product: mkinitrd
   Version: 3.4.43-8mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: mkinitrd
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Since bootsplash is now working in kernel 2.6, there is no reason to disable
bootsplash in mkinitrd for kernel >= 2.5 .

Here's a trivial patch to solve this (thanks to Michael Reinsch on #mdk-cooker
for the hint) :

--- /sbin/mkinitrd.24   2003-09-13 21:31:51.0 +0200
+++ /sbin/mkinitrd  2003-11-16 03:21:56.503749442 +0100
@@ -79,7 +79,6 @@
if [ $major -ge 3 -o $major -eq 2 -a $minor -ge 5 ]; then
kernel25=yes
modulefile=/etc/modprobe.conf
-   splash=""
fi
 }

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[Cooker] [Bug 6368] [AlephOne] New: Unable to start AlephOne

2003-11-15 Thread [richtl]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6368

   Summary: Unable to start AlephOne
   Product: AlephOne
   Version: 0.12.0-6mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: AlephOne
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Installed the AlephOne cooker RPM and AlephOne-minf-demo-1.0-2.

$ export ALEPHONE_DATA=/usr/share/AlephOne_minf_demo/
$ alephone
Aleph One 0.12.0
http://source.bungie.org/
 
Original code by Bungie Software <http://www.bungie.com/>
Additional work by Loren Petrich, Chris Pruett, Rhys Hill et al.
Expat XML library by James Clark
SDL port by Christian Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
You are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.
For details, see the file COPYING.
Can't find required text strings (missing MML?).

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[Cooker] [Bug 6367] [XFree86-100dpi-fonts] New: package installation fails to update cache file

2003-11-15 Thread [gbburkhardt]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6367

   Summary: package installation fails to update cache file
   Product: XFree86-100dpi-fonts
   Version: 4.3-9mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: packaging
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The postinstall script only updates the fonts.cache.1 file in the 100dpi
directory; the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache.1 doesn't get updated
when the package is installed.  As a result, programs using Qt (and probably
others) can't access the 100dpi fonts.  There is a sample progam in the
Qt documentation for QFontDatabase; it lists the fonts available on a system.
When the entry in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache.1 for the 100dpi directory
doesn't exist, Qt isn't able to find the fonts, e.g. Lucidatypewriter.

This behavior can be demonstrated with the following sequence of operations:

==> first, remove the font package entirely:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rpm -e --nodeps XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3-24mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rm -rf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1
"encodings" 0 ".dir"
"Speedo" 0 ".dir"
"TTF" 0 ".dir"
"Type1" 0 ".dir"
"mdk" 0 ".dir"
"misc" 0 ".dir"
"75dpi" 0 ".dir"
"MathML" 0 ".dir"
"100dpi" 0 ".dir"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# fc-cache
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1
"encodings" 0 ".dir"
"Speedo" 0 ".dir"
"TTF" 0 ".dir"
"Type1" 0 ".dir"
"mdk" 0 ".dir"
"misc" 0 ".dir"
"75dpi" 0 ".dir"
"MathML" 0 ".dir"

==> then, install the font package:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# rpm -i XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3-24mdk.i586.rpm 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1
"encodings" 0 ".dir"
"Speedo" 0 ".dir"
"TTF" 0 ".dir"
"Type1" 0 ".dir"
"mdk" 0 ".dir"
"misc" 0 ".dir"
"75dpi" 0 ".dir"
"MathML" 0 ".dir"

==> But this fixes it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# fc-cache
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.cache-1
"encodings" 0 ".dir"
"Speedo" 0 ".dir"
"TTF" 0 ".dir"
"Type1" 0 ".dir"
"mdk" 0 ".dir"
"misc" 0 ".dir"
"75dpi" 0 ".dir"
"MathML" 0 ".dir"
"100dpi" 0 ".dir"

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The postinstall script for the package is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] glenn]$ rpm -qp --scripts XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.3-24mdk.i586.rpm 
postinstall scriptlet (through /bin/sh):
umask 133
cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
mkfontdir || :
/usr/bin/fc-cache . || :
/usr/sbin/chkfontpath -q -a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled

so, in addition to calling 'fc-cache' for the current directory, it should
also (perhaps only??) be called without a directory argument.

The same problem exists for the 75dpi font package, and, perhaps, others.

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Re: [Cooker] xscreensaver can't lock screen properly

2003-11-15 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:52:04 -0500
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> or gnome) when it comes to to verify my password it says that my pass is
> wrong This leads to me having to kill xscreensaver from the console which
> then kills X. grr.
> THere must be some permissions problems here or maybe this is a bug.
> anyone els with this problem
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I'm using it with Fluxbox and IceWM with no troubles.  Cooker 10.0 but no
KDE and minimal Gnome libraries only.

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[Cooker] xscreensaver can't lock screen properly

2003-11-15 Thread illogic-al
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i'm using mdk 9.2 and whenever i use xscreensaver to lock the desktop (kde or 
gnome) when it comes to to verify my password it says that my pass is wrong
This leads to me having to kill xscreensaver from the console which then kills 
X. grr.
THere must be some permissions problems here or maybe this is a bug. anyone 
els with this problem
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[Cooker] Re: gnutls and gossip

2003-11-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-11-15(Sat) 23:37:09 +0100, Michael Reinsch wrote:
> * Di Okt 14 2003 Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.8.11-2mdk
> - Rebuild with shared opencdk, libtasn1 and liblzo
> 
> Unfortunately gnutls doesn't seem to like an external libtasn1. gossip
> complains when using SSL:
> 
> GNUTLS ERROR: ASN1 parser: Element was not found.
> 
> After compiling gnutls with --with-included-libtasn1 it works again.

/me slaps himself

Will do. Actually I haven't registered jabber a/c with server that
supports SSL, so I was unable to test. Sorry for that.

Abel

> 
> See also: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117801
> 
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-2mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:33:31 +0800
Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It looks like Laurent is using his own spec to upload gaim package,
> and didn't look at others' modification to gaim package. Gwenole has
> removed unpackaged files in 0.68-2mdk, but they should be bundled with
> gaim instead. Laurent then goes ahead and add them back, but instead
> of adding changelog, he just insert new entries into 0.68-1mdk
> chnagelog instead...

That's what I was talking about, sorry for not being clear enough :)

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-2mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-11-16(Sun) 08:25:27 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote:
> > Nice.
> > Can you be kind enough to merge back Gwenole's changelog and fix (nuke
> > unpackaged files) (and patchs if needed), and to increase the release
> > number ?
> 
> Sure, though I don't see anything new that need to be nuked.

Hm, I said it too early...

It looks like Laurent is using his own spec to upload gaim package, and
didn't look at others' modification to gaim package. Gwenole has removed
unpackaged files in 0.68-2mdk, but they should be bundled with gaim
instead. Laurent then goes ahead and add them back, but instead of
adding changelog, he just insert new entries into 0.68-1mdk chnagelog
instead...

To sum up, it's a mess.

Abel

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-2mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-11-16(Sun) 00:50:12 +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > > yes, could someone fix that in main ?
> > > My packages are only a temporary solution, and I don't have rights
> > > to upload in main.
> > > You only need to disable the TCL patch.
> > 
> > If there is no objection I'll upload it later today.
> > I'm trying to get festival-gaim into package, so I need some time :-)
> 
> Nice.
> Can you be kind enough to merge back Gwenole's changelog and fix (nuke
> unpackaged files) (and patchs if needed), and to increase the release
> number ?

Sure, though I don't see anything new that need to be nuked.

Abel


> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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> On Saturday 15 November 2003 22.41, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 15. November 2003 19:38 schrieb Per Lindström:
> > > k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is
> > > not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> > > /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
> >
> > Its a kde control center module now. You can find it under system in the
> > kde control center.
> >
> > Steffen
>
> Thanks. I found it under System Administration.

Hmmm not shown on my system. I've tried rpm -e k3b and then urpmi, no change. 
I am I missing something?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-2mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 07:16:29 +0800
Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2003-11-13(Thu) 21:18:55 +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:02:47 +0800
> > Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > configure.ac says it specifically wants tcl 8.3 ONLY.
> > 
> > yes, could someone fix that in main ?
> > My packages are only a temporary solution, and I don't have rights
> > to upload in main.
> > You only need to disable the TCL patch.
> 
> If there is no objection I'll upload it later today.
> I'm trying to get festival-gaim into package, so I need some time :-)

Nice.
Can you be kind enough to merge back Gwenole's changelog and fix (nuke
unpackaged files) (and patchs if needed), and to increase the release
number ?

Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Per Lindström
On Saturday 15 November 2003 22.41, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Am Samstag, 15. November 2003 19:38 schrieb Per Lindström:
> > k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is
> > not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> > /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
>
> Its a kde control center module now. You can find it under system in the
> kde control center.
>
> Steffen

Thanks. I found it under System Administration.



Re: [Cooker] Settting date and time from MCC

2003-11-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Dennis Veatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Clicking on set date and time gens this error;
> 
> cannot fork and exec "/usr/sbin/clock.pl" since it is not executable

just fixed in upcoming 9.3-7mdk
sorry :-(




Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] clean /usr/share/icons

2003-11-15 Thread Robert L Martin
I third the clean /usr/share/icons idea and suggest that a general 
"document and repair" job be done on  the whole filesystem ie
between the WM and Xcore where is what found.







Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-2mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-11-13(Thu) 21:18:55 +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:02:47 +0800
> Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > configure.ac says it specifically wants tcl 8.3 ONLY.
> 
> yes, could someone fix that in main ?
> My packages are only a temporary solution, and I don't have rights to
> upload in main.
> You only need to disable the TCL patch.

If there is no objection I'll upload it later today.
I'm trying to get festival-gaim into package, so I need some time :-)

Abel

> 
> Regards
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Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories

2003-11-15 Thread Blindauer Emmanuel
Le Samedi 15 Novembre 2003 18:49, Gilles Mocellin a écrit :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] gilles]$ kcontrol
> Loading required GL library /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
> kdecore (KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon
> directory /home/gilles/.kde/share/icons/Umicons_2.0/ group  not valid.
> kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from /var/tmp/kdecache-gilles/ksycoca
> kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found !
> Defaulting to Settings/

I've got the same problem.
I've tried to rm -fr KDE for user and for system but it didn't solve the 
problem.
I've changed the menu style (something during an update has switched to Action 
menu, instead of the classical menu). running menudrake and switching back 
has solved the problem!

emmanuel



Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-1mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-11-16(Sun) 00:10:18 +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:52:35 +0800
> Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have checked, the patch is partially upstream, and some bit of the
> > patch doesn't apply anymore due to rewritten MSN protocol 9 support.
> 
> Yes, but even if the patches are merged upstream the changelog entry
> should be kept.

Oh yeah, you're right about this...

Abel

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-1mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:52:35 +0800
Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have checked, the patch is partially upstream, and some bit of the
> patch doesn't apply anymore due to rewritten MSN protocol 9 support.

Yes, but even if the patches are merged upstream the changelog entry
should be kept.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] gaim-0.72-1mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-11-05(Wed) 06:21:11 -0500, David Walser wrote:
> You trampled Gwenole's fixes...
> 
> Laurent Culioli wrote:
> > Name: gaim Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > Version : 0.72  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> > Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Wed Nov  5 11:14:37 2003

I have checked, the patch is partially upstream, and some bit of the
patch doesn't apply anymore due to rewritten MSN protocol 9 support.

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[Cooker] gnutls and gossip

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Reinsch
Hi!

* Di Okt 14 2003 Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.8.11-2mdk
- Rebuild with shared opencdk, libtasn1 and liblzo

Unfortunately gnutls doesn't seem to like an external libtasn1. gossip
complains when using SSL:

GNUTLS ERROR: ASN1 parser: Element was not found.

After compiling gnutls with --with-included-libtasn1 it works again.

See also: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117801

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:44:02 +0100
Olivier Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Furthermore, ide is initialized before ramdisk is loaded, this will
> need some tweaking if we want to build IDE as module.
> I don't know what prevents ramdisk from being loaded before initcalls
> are done.
> Maybe I'll ask on lkml.

Well, no, I may be wrong.
If we build IDE chipset as modules, they will be initialized when the
module is loaded, this shouldn't hurt if the module is in initrd.
So we only have to wait (or code) for modular IDE to be fixed.


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Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel 2.6 with bootsplash and fixed IDE

2003-11-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> Quoting "\"Andrey Borzenkov\" " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > What would you like to have in next release ?
> > > 
> > 
> > dxr3 driver :)
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> The tulip driver to work properly
> 
> DVB, Speedtouch and Bluetooth (Not sure if these are already added or not)
> 

IIRC all of them are in vanilla 2.6 

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[Cooker] [Bug 6366] [Bugzilla] New: missing software packages

2003-11-15 Thread [mr]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6366

   Summary: missing software packages
   Product: Bugzilla
   Version: 2.17.4
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: Bugzilla
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The following software packages are missing in bugzilla:

gossip
gnutls

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms

2003-11-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Wednesday 12 November 2003 04:44, Olivier Blin wrote:

Hi,


> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m
> 
> should it be builtin for initrd to work? If not there is no reason to have
> it 
> builtin.

IIRC yes, it has to be built in

> >  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096
> >  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
> > --
> > -CONFIG_IDE=y
> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
> > +CONFIG_IDE=m
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=m
> >
> > --
> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m
> >  CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y
> 
> nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing
> exported 
> symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module reference
> counting 
> (for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe. Which implies kernel
> must 
> include all IDE drivers :(

IIRC debian use it for ages
( and they are far no that experimental as mandrake is)
and the kernel becomes really small

with Os --  bzImage ~ 1400kb
with Os + modular ide -- ~ 11xx kb

it should work, we only need to hack mkinitrd 
& may be harddrake/ drakx
+++ include the debian patch

and if we go hacking mkinitrd, we make also add suport for cramfs
 
i'll upload it shortly to the usual place :-)

> > --
> > -CONFIG_SCSI=y
> > +CONFIG_SCSI=m
> 
> module, please!
> 
> >  CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y
> >
> > --
> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=m
> 
> same.
> 
> >  CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=m
> >  CONFIG_MD_RAID0=m
> > --

--
arent the following pretty important,
and alwasys needed ?

> > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> 
> module
> 
> >  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
> >  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> 
> module
--
and what about ipv4


> 
> >  CONFIG_NET_KEY=m
> >  CONFIG_INET=y
> > --
> > -CONFIG_ATM=y
> > -CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=y
> > -# CONFIG_ATM_CLIP_NO_ICMP is not set
> > +CONFIG_ATM=m
> > +CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=m
> 
> come on really, should everyone have ATM?
> 

and if only could tell me where it is ?-)

> > --
> > -CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
> > +CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m
> >  CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y
> >  CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024
> > --
> > -CONFIG_SERIO=y
> > -CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y
> > +CONFIG_SERIO=m
> > +CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=m
> >  CONFIG_SERIO_SERPORT=m
> > --
> > -CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
> > +CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=m
> >  CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD=m
> >  CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD=m
> > --
> > -CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
> > +CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m
> >  CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_SYNAPTICS=y
> >  CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m
> 
> that is bad. Apparently to have your mouse (and keyboard) autodetected you
> 
> have 
> to build it in. OTOH some drivers are still left as module. Meaning -
> there 
> should be some manual configuration. In which case why not configure
> others 
> as well?
> 
> There is no problem loading them out of initrd. Of course it needs
> harddrake 
> support finally.
> 
> WDYT?

do really want to put  mouse & co in initrd,
IMO it could be loaded if/when root is mounted
 
> > --
> > -CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=y
> > -CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_CONSOLE=y
> > +CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=m
> 
> it needs to be builtin only to have console support ... not sure actually
> how 
> widely it is used. those needing it to debug are likely to know how to 
> recompile kernel.

you are probably right ;-)

> 
> >  CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_CS=m
> >  CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_ACPI=y
> > --
> > -CONFIG_SERIAL_CORE=y
> > -CONFIG_SERIAL_CORE_CONSOLE=y
> > +CONFIG_SERIAL_CORE=m
> 
> see above
> 
> >  CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
> >  CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
> > --
> > -CONFIG_AGP=y
> > -CONFIG_AGP_ALI=y
> > +CONFIG_AGP=m
> > +CONFIG_AGP_ALI=m
> >  CONFIG_AGP_ATI=m
> > -CONFIG_AGP_AMD=y
> > +CONFIG_AGP_AMD=m
> >  CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=m
> > -CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
> > +CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=m
> >  CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=m
> > -CONFIG_AGP_SIS=y
> > -CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS=y
> > -CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y
> > +CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m
> > +CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS=m
> > +CONFIG_AGP_VIA=m
> 
> any reason to have this builtin? I think it works just fine as module?
> 
> > --
> > -CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
> > +CONFIG_EXT2_FS=m
> 
> if we switch to initramfs format even this can be module :)
> 
> >  CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y
> >  CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
> > --
> > -CONFIG_FS_MBCACHE=y
> 
> why do you need it in kernel?
> 
> > +CONFIG_JBD_DEBUG=y
> > +CONFIG_FS_MBCACHE=m
> >  CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=m
> > --
> > -CONFIG_QFMT_V2=y
> 
> why?
> 
> > +CONFIG_QFMT_V2=m
> >  CONFIG_QUOTACTL=y
> >  CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS=m
> > --
> > -CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
> 
> why? OK diskless stations ... that is the only application that may
> require 
> it. this is rather special case for generic kernel?
> 
> > +CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
> >  CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
> >  CONFIG_NFS_V4=y
> > --
> > -CONFIG_NFSD=y
> 
> why?
> 
> > +CONFIG_NFSD=m
> >  CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y
> >  CONFIG_NFSD_V4=y
> > --
> > -CONFIG_LOCKD=y
> 
> why (unless it is forced by NFS)?
> 
> > +CONFIG_LOCKD=m
> >  CONFIG_LOCKD_V4=y
> > -CONFIG_EXPORTFS=y
> > -CONFIG_SUNRPC=y
> 
> why?
> 
> > +CONFIG_EXPORTFS=m
> > +CON

Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 04:41 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Am Samstag, 15. November 2003 19:38 schrieb Per Lindström:
> > k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is
> > not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> > /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
>
> Its a kde control center module now. You can find it under system in the
> kde control center.
>
> Steffen

Not here.

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if you squint really hard and do all of the work."
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Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 12:49 pm, Gilles Mocellin wrote:
> Le Samedi 15 Novembre 2003 17:38, Dennis Veatch a écrit :
> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 12:20 pm, Robert Fox wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:58, Dennis Veatch wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Ok, there was no ~/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE for the user
> > in question, if that helps any thing.
> >
> > But there was the /usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE and deleting
> > that brought it back..Thanks.
>
> It doesn't work for me.
> I see this if I launch kcontrol in a terminal, the last line seems odd.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] gilles]$ kcontrol
> Loading required GL library /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
> kdecore (KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon
> directory /home/gilles/.kde/share/icons/Umicons_2.0/ group  not valid.
> kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from /var/tmp/kdecache-gilles/ksycoca
> kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found !
> Defaulting to Settings/

Just ran rpmdrake and kcontrol lost everything again but rm -rf 
/usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE brought everything back. Anyone know 
whats causing this to happen? 

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms

2003-11-15 Thread Olivier Blin
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:57:36 +0300
Andrey Borzenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 12 November 2003 04:44, Olivier Blin wrote:

> > +# CONFIG_M586 is not set

> OK that needs tweaking anyway.


> > -CONFIG_X86_F00F_BUG=y
> F00F code is really small, there is no reason to disable it.

ok, I will keep it

> 
> > --
> > -CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y
> > +CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
> 
> I can't find where it is referenced

in arch/i386/Kconfig

> >  CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
> > -# CONFIG_HPET_TIMER is not set
> 
> anyone has info about how widely it is used? should it be enabled in
> generic kernel?

sorry, I don't know

> > +CONFIG_EDD=m
>
> make CONFIG_EDD module. It provides just sysfs interface to EDD data,
> unless we have applications that access sysfs we do not need it in
> kernel. And those applications can always modprobe edd first.

ok, i'll do it

> > -# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
> > +CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y
> 
> OK that is just stupidity of allmodconfig. Remember it blindly tries
> to enable everything ...

right

> >  CONFIG_MTRR=y
> > --
> > -CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
> > -CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
> > -CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
> 
> No, please! Everything that can be module should be module. Desktop
> users has no need for most of them and those who need can always load
> them. It would be nice if harddrake could detect needed modules and
> automatically update /etc/sysconfig/acpi.

I agree this should be built as module, I've not made the first
2.6 config file and I haven't had time yet to browse the whole config.
I already planned to do it for next release.

Acutally, I submitted you this diff before I had time to fix most of
obvious things I would have fixed in next release :)
Sorry for that, I should have wait a bit to send you the diff.

> > -CONFIG_APM=y
> > +CONFIG_APM=m
> 
> not sure. Probably it should be builtin for legacy reasons - else you
> get "APM missing in Mandrake kernel!". Although technically it can
> just be loaded out of initrd I guess. Given that new systems are
> likely to support ACPI may be we should make it module. And make
> harddrake detect when APM is needed :)

ok, so builtin for now, module when initscripts will be able to load it

> > -CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=y
> > +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=m
> > +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_24_API=y
> > +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=m
> 
> I think those need be modules if possible. Anyone has any experience
> with it?

I'll build them as module for next release, if no objection

> > -CONFIG_PARPORT=y
> > -CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
> > -CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=y
> > +CONFIG_PARPORT=m
> > +CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
> > +CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m
> 
> come on, why should it be builtin?
> 

same as acpi, I planed to fix that in next release

> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
> 
> ditto
> 
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PS2=m
> >  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD=m
> > --
> > -CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y
> > +CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m
> >
> 
> ditto. I do not have paride device nor I believe do 99% of users.

was planned too

> >  #
> > --
> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m
> 
> should it be builtin for initrd to work? If not there is no reason to
> have it builtin.

strange, i've quickly browsed the code, it seems it isn't needed.
I'll have a try without.

> > -CONFIG_IDE=y
> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
> > +CONFIG_IDE=m
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=m
> >
> > --
> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m
> >  CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y
> 
> nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing
> exported symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module
> reference counting (for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe.
> Which implies kernel must include all IDE drivers :(

yep :/
That's what i did in test9.6mdk.
Furthermore, ide is initialized before ramdisk is loaded, this will need
some tweaking if we want to build IDE as module.
I don't know what prevents ramdisk from being loaded before initcalls
are done.
Maybe I'll ask on lkml.

> > -CONFIG_SCSI=y
> > +CONFIG_SCSI=m
> 
> module, please!
>
> > -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y
> > +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=m
> 
> same.

was planned too
 
> > -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> > +CONFIG_PACKET=m
> 
> module
>
> > -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> > +CONFIG_UNIX=m
> 
> module

I was not sure for those.
Almost everybody use it, even if the box isn't networked.

> > -CONFIG_ATM=y
> > -CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=y
> > -# CONFIG_ATM_CLIP_NO_ICMP is not set
> > +CONFIG_ATM=m
> > +CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=m
> 
> come on really, should everyone have ATM?

same, planned

> > -CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
> > +CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m

> > -CONFIG_SERIO=y
> > -CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y
> > +CONFIG_SERIO=m
> > +CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=m

> > -CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
> > +CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=m

> > -CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
> > +CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m

> that is bad. Apparently to have your mouse (and keyboard) autodetected
> you have 
> to build it in. OTOH some drivers are still left as module. Meaning -
> there should be some manual configuration. 

[Cooker] [Bug 6343] [krusader] krusader in conflict with kdelibs-common

2003-11-15 Thread [jlp]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6343


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I have the same problem here. New version of Krusader is also out. So maybe it
would be a good idea to fix this and upgrade to new version at the same time.

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krusader-1.20-4mdk is in conflict with file
/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-ace.desktop from kdelibs-common-3.1.93-14mdk,
and all previous kdelibs-common-3.1.93-xx, AFAIR.

If krusader was installed beforehand, one couldn't simply upgrade kde because of
this issue.


Additionally, the signature is missing.


Also, when I tried to send this report, a message popped up:

You are not reporting a bug for the last version available.
Please upgrade to krusader version 1.20-3mdk or it is likely that you bug report
 will be ignored.

It should be *your*, not *you*, and, 1.20-4mdk is obviously the version released
after 1.20-3mdk...


Below the output of urpmi krusader:


# urpmi krusader

(...)

The following packages have bad signatures:
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/krusader-1.20-4mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (sha1 md5 OK)
Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/krusader-1.20-4mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing...##
Installation failed:
file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-ace.desktop from install of
krusader-1.20-4mdk conflicts with file from package kdelibs-common-3.1.93-14mdk



Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Samstag, 15. November 2003 19:38 schrieb Per Lindström:
> k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is
> not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.

Its a kde control center module now. You can find it under system in the 
kde control center. 

Steffen




Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel 2.6 with bootsplash and fixed IDE

2003-11-15 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Friday 14 November 2003 17:32, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > > > will upload now nosrc.rpm /patches tarball :-)
> > >
> 
> remove BS02-kobject-oops-fixes.patch, it is already fixed (differently) in
> 
> -test9. should not be in current -mm either
> 
> 

OK,
thanks :-)

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Re: [Cooker] kernel 23mdk panic

2003-11-15 Thread Jure Repinc
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
Found stupid problem, this will be fixed in -25mdk.
Upgraded to -25mdk and it is working fine again. Thanks.




Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] clean /usr/share/icons

2003-11-15 Thread M. Ignacio Monge




El sáb, 15-11-2003 a las 18:22, FACORAT Fabrice escribió:

/usr/share/icons at this time is a total mess !
Indeed, at the same time you have :
- kde icons themes
- gnome icons themes
- XFree cursors

So for example in kcontrol you will see as available icons themes the
gnome one ( but as they don't have the right filename, you will end up
with a unusable/unusefull/awfull desktop with most icon mark as blank
ones ), and also the Xfree cursors. The same applies for gnome when
tying to select a different icon in gnome theme

So IMHO :
1°/ at least XFree cursors should be moved for example to
/usr/X11R6/share/icons and XFree should be patched to use this new
location.
2°/ if we should be able to use some gnome theme from kde and vice versa
then we should have some symlinks that match the correct names for kde
... don't know but this should be fixed. 

For example in /usr/share/icons/gnome/36x36/filesystems/, the directory
icon is gnome-fs-directory.png whereas kde expect folder.png in 32x32
So we have a name problem ( gnome-fs-directory.png vs folder.png ) and
also size problem ( 36x36 doesn't exist on kde ). So maybe kde and gnome
icons location should be separated ...

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I second that.



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Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread illogic-al
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 03:37 pm, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> On Saturday 15 November 2003 03:15 pm, illogic-al wrote:
> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 02:02 pm, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> > > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:48 pm, Götz Waschk wrote:
> > > > Am Samstag, 15. November 2003, 19:38:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Per 
Lindström:
> > > > > k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup
> > > > > is not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> > > > > /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
> > > > >
> > > > > $ k3bsetup
> > > > > bash: k3bsetup: command not found
> > > >
> > > > From the changelog:
> > > > * Mi Sep 03 2003 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9-8mdk
> > > >
> > > > - Remove entry k3bsetup not necessary
> >
> > I think he just means the menu entry by this. so it should still be in
> > the system but it has to be run as root
> >
> > > > So it doesn't seem to be necessary.
> > >
> > > Except that when run as a normal user (at least for me) from konsole it
> > > pops up a system configuration error about cdrdao and readcd not
> > > running with root privileges and says to use K3bSetup to correct.
> > >
> > > BTW, I have to use konsole because k3b was not added to Applications >
> > > Archiving > Cd burning (at least that's where I have always found it).
> >
> > urpmf k3bsetup
> >
> > k3b:/usr/bin/k3bsetup
> > k3b:/usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/k3bsetup.desktop
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_1.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_2.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_devices.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_finish.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_fstab.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_header_block.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_permissions.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_programs.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_welcome.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/icons/locolor/16x16/apps/k3bsetup.png
> > k3b:/usr/share/icons/locolor/32x32/apps/k3bsetup.png
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] dveatch]# urpmf k3bsetup
> libk3b1:/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la
> libk3b1:/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so
> k3b:/usr/share/applnk/Settings/System/k3bsetup2.desktop
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup2_guy.png
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] dveatch]#
oh, right, cooker. guess somethings broken :p
btw you don't need to cc me when you reply. I'll get it when you reply to the 
mailing list (just choose one, not both) ;)
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Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 03:15 pm, illogic-al wrote:
> On Saturday 15 November 2003 02:02 pm, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:48 pm, Götz Waschk wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, 15. November 2003, 19:38:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Per Lindström:
> > > > k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is
> > > > not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> > > > /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
> > > >
> > > > $ k3bsetup
> > > > bash: k3bsetup: command not found
> > >
> > > From the changelog:
> > > * Mi Sep 03 2003 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9-8mdk
> > >
> > > - Remove entry k3bsetup not necessary
>
> I think he just means the menu entry by this. so it should still be in the
> system but it has to be run as root
>
> > > So it doesn't seem to be necessary.
> >
> > Except that when run as a normal user (at least for me) from konsole it
> > pops up a system configuration error about cdrdao and readcd not running
> > with root privileges and says to use K3bSetup to correct.
> >
> > BTW, I have to use konsole because k3b was not added to Applications >
> > Archiving > Cd burning (at least that's where I have always found it).
>
> urpmf k3bsetup
>
> k3b:/usr/bin/k3bsetup
> k3b:/usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/k3bsetup.desktop
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_1.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_2.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_devices.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_finish.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_fstab.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_header_block.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_permissions.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_programs.png
> k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_welcome.png
> k3b:/usr/share/icons/locolor/16x16/apps/k3bsetup.png
> k3b:/usr/share/icons/locolor/32x32/apps/k3bsetup.png

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dveatch]# urpmf k3bsetup
libk3b1:/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la
libk3b1:/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so
k3b:/usr/share/applnk/Settings/System/k3bsetup2.desktop
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup2_guy.png
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dveatch]#

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Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread illogic-al
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 02:02 pm, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:48 pm, Götz Waschk wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 15. November 2003, 19:38:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Per Lindström:
> > > k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is
> > > not installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> > > /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
> > >
> > > $ k3bsetup
> > > bash: k3bsetup: command not found
> >
> > From the changelog:
> > * Mi Sep 03 2003 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9-8mdk
> >
> > - Remove entry k3bsetup not necessary
I think he just means the menu entry by this. so it should still be in the 
system but it has to be run as root

> >
> > So it doesn't seem to be necessary.
>
> Except that when run as a normal user (at least for me) from konsole it
> pops up a system configuration error about cdrdao and readcd not running
> with root privileges and says to use K3bSetup to correct.
>
> BTW, I have to use konsole because k3b was not added to Applications >
> Archiving > Cd burning (at least that's where I have always found it).
urpmf k3bsetup

k3b:/usr/bin/k3bsetup
k3b:/usr/share/applnk/Multimedia/k3bsetup.desktop
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_1.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_2.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_devices.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_finish.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_fstab.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_header_block.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_permissions.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_programs.png
k3b:/usr/share/apps/k3b/pics/k3bsetup_welcome.png
k3b:/usr/share/icons/locolor/16x16/apps/k3bsetup.png
k3b:/usr/share/icons/locolor/32x32/apps/k3bsetup.png

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Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel 2.6 with bootsplash and fixed IDE

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Lothian
Quoting "\"Andrey Borzenkov\" " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



> 
> What would you like to have in next release ?
> 

dxr3 driver :)




The tulip driver to work properly

DVB, Speedtouch and Bluetooth (Not sure if these are already added or not)




[Cooker] Settting date and time from MCC

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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Clicking on set date and time gens this error;

cannot fork and exec "/usr/sbin/clock.pl" since it is not executable


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Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:48 pm, Götz Waschk wrote:
> Am Samstag, 15. November 2003, 19:38:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Per Lindström:
> > k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is not
> > installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs
> > /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
> >
> > $ k3bsetup
> > bash: k3bsetup: command not found
>
> From the changelog:
> * Mi Sep 03 2003 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9-8mdk
>
> - Remove entry k3bsetup not necessary
>
> So it doesn't seem to be necessary.

Except that when run as a normal user (at least for me) from konsole it pops 
up a system configuration error about cdrdao and readcd not running with root 
privileges and says to use K3bSetup to correct.

BTW, I have to use konsole because k3b was not added to Applications > 
Archiving > Cd burning (at least that's where I have always found it).

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Re: [Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Samstag, 15. November 2003, 19:38:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Per Lindström:
> k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is not 
> installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la 
> and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.
> 
> $ k3bsetup
> bash: k3bsetup: command not found
>From the changelog:
* Mi Sep 03 2003 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9-8mdk

- Remove entry k3bsetup not necessary

So it doesn't seem to be necessary.
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[Cooker] k3bsetup not included in k3b

2003-11-15 Thread Per Lindström
k3b advised me to run k3bsetup to fix a few problems, but k3bsetup is not 
installed. libk3b1 on the other hand installs /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la 
and /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so.

$ k3bsetup
bash: k3bsetup: command not found

$ rpm -q k3b
k3b-0.10.2-1mdk

$ rpm -ql k3b | grep /usr/bin
/usr/bin/k3b

$ rpm -q libk3b1
libk3b1-0.10.2-1mdk

$ rpm -ql libk3b1 |grep setup
/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.la
/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_k3bsetup2.so



Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] alsa-tools-0.9.8-1mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Austin
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, Tim Sawchuck wrote:

> Any ideas where I can find it?

I'm sure the source is on uninett.
Keep in mind that the binaries are individually named... ac3dec,
sbiload, etc.

Maybe I should make a wrapper called alsa-tools, just in case people are
confused?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] alsa-tools-0.9.8-1mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Oden Eriksson
lördagen den 15 november 2003 11.08 skrev Tim Sawchuck:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:21:45 +0100 (CET)

> Any ideas where I can find it?

ftp.uninett.no

?




Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel 2.6 with bootsplash and fixed IDE

2003-11-15 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Friday 14 November 2003 17:32, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > > will upload now nosrc.rpm /patches tarball :-)
> >

remove BS02-kobject-oops-fixes.patch, it is already fixed (differently) in 
-test9. should not be in current -mm either




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] alsa-tools-0.9.8-1mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:21:45 +0100 (CET)
Austin Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment:

> -=-=-=-
> Name: alsa-tools   Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 0.9.8 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Thu Nov 13
> 03:54:30 2003 Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host:
> klama.mandrake.org Group   : Sound Source RPM:
> (none) Size: 1500271  License: GPL
> Signature   : (none)
> Packager: Austin Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://alsa-project.org
> Summary : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) tools
> Description :
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) utils. Modularized
> architecture with support for a large range of ISA and PCI cards.
> Fully compatible with OSS/Lite (kernel sound drivers), but
> contains many enhanced features.
> 
> This source rpm package provides several sub packages like:
> 
> * ac3dec - A free AC-3 stream decoder
> * as10k1 - AS10k1 Assembler version A0.99
> * envy24control - Control tool for Envy24 (ice1712) based soundcards
> * mixartloader - Firmware loader for Digigram's miXart
> * rmedigicontrol - Control panel for RME Hammerfall cards
> * cspctl - Sound Blaster 16 ASP/CSP control program
> * sbiload - An OPL2/3 FM instrument loader for ALSA sequencer
> * sscape_ctl - ALSA SoundScape control utility
> 
> 
> 
> -=-=-=-
> Austin Acton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9.8-1mdk
> 
> - 0.9.8
> - add missing apps
> - add some menu entries
> - specfile makeover
> - patch from Charles A. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I am still not able to find this.  I've tried half a dozen mirrors all
around the globe.  Tried Google and 4 rpmfind* search engines...   :-((

Any ideas where I can find it?

Tim

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms

2003-11-15 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 04:44, Olivier Blin wrote:
>
> $ diff -u kernel-config-2.6-{,allmod-}i586smp  | egrep -A 3"^-.*=y"
> -CONFIG_M586=y
> +# CONFIG_M586 is not set
>  # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
>  # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set

OK that needs tweaking anyway.

> --
> -CONFIG_X86_F00F_BUG=y
>  CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
>  CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
>  CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y

F00F code is really small, there is no reason to disable it.

> --
> -CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y
> +CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y

I can't find where it is referenced

>  CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
> -# CONFIG_HPET_TIMER is not set

anyone has info about how widely it is used? should it be enabled in generic 
kernel?

> --
> -CONFIG_EDD=y
> -# CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
> -CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
> +CONFIG_EDD=m
> +CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
> +# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set

make CONFIG_EDD module. It provides just sysfs interface to EDD data, unless 
we have applications that access sysfs we do not need it in kernel. And those 
applications can always modprobe edd first.

> --
> -CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
> -CONFIG_HIGHPTE=y
> -# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
> +CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y

OK that is just stupidity of allmodconfig. Remember it blindly tries to enable 
everything ...

>  CONFIG_MTRR=y
> --
> -CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
> -CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
> -CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y

No, please! Everything that can be module should be module. Desktop users has 
no need for most of them and those who need can always load them. It would be 
nice if harddrake could detect needed modules and automatically update 
/etc/sysconfig/acpi.

> +CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
> +CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
> +CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
> --
> -CONFIG_APM=y
> +CONFIG_APM=m

not sure. Probably it should be builtin for legacy reasons - else you get "APM 
missing in Mandrake kernel!". Although technically it can just be loaded out 
of initrd I guess. Given that new systems are likely to support ACPI may be 
we should make it module. And make harddrake detect when APM is needed :)

>  CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND=y
>  CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y
> --
> -CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=y
> +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=m
> +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_24_API=y
> +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=m

I think those need be modules if possible. Anyone has any experience with it?

> --
> -CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
> +CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=m
>  CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m
>  CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m
> --
> -CONFIG_PARPORT=y
> -CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
> -CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=y
> +CONFIG_PARPORT=m
> +CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
> +CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m

come on, why should it be builtin?

> --
> -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y

ditto

> +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m
> +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PS2=m
>  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD=m
> --
> -CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y
> +CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m
>

ditto. I do not have paride device nor I believe do 99% of users.

>  #
> --
> -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
> +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m

should it be builtin for initrd to work? If not there is no reason to have it 
builtin.

>  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096
>  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
> --
> -CONFIG_IDE=y
> -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
> +CONFIG_IDE=m
> +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=m
>
> --
> -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
> +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE=y
> +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m
>  CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y

nope, module does not work. Even if it possible to fix all missing exported 
symbols, IDE layer does not provide for any sort of module reference counting 
(for chipset drivers)  meaning it is simply unsafe. Which implies kernel must 
include all IDE drivers :(

> --
> -CONFIG_SCSI=y
> +CONFIG_SCSI=m

module, please!

>  CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y
>
> --
> -CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y
> +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=m

same.

>  CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=m
>  CONFIG_MD_RAID0=m
> --
> -CONFIG_PACKET=y
> +CONFIG_PACKET=m

module

>  CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP=y
>  CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=m
> -CONFIG_UNIX=y
> +CONFIG_UNIX=m

module

>  CONFIG_NET_KEY=m
>  CONFIG_INET=y
> --
> -CONFIG_ATM=y
> -CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=y
> -# CONFIG_ATM_CLIP_NO_ICMP is not set
> +CONFIG_ATM=m
> +CONFIG_ATM_CLIP=m

come on really, should everyone have ATM?

> --
> -CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
> +CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=m
>  CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y
>  CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024
> --
> -CONFIG_SERIO=y
> -CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y
> +CONFIG_SERIO=m
> +CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=m
>  CONFIG_SERIO_SERPORT=m
> --
> -CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=y
> +CONFIG_KEYBOARD_ATKBD=m
>  CONFIG_KEYBOARD_SUNKBD=m
>  CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD=m
> --
> -CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
> +CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m
>  CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_SYNAPTICS=y
>  CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m

that is bad. Apparently to have your mouse (and keyboard) autodetected you 
have 
to build it in. OTOH some drivers are still left as module. Meaning - there 
should be some manual configuration. In which case why not configure others 
as well?

There is no problem loading them out of initrd. Of course it needs harddrake 
support finally.

WDYT?

> --
> -CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=y
> -CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_CONSOLE=y
> +CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=m

it needs to be builtin only to have console support ... not sure actually how 
widely it is used. those n

Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories

2003-11-15 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Samedi 15 Novembre 2003 17:38, Dennis Veatch a écrit :
> On Saturday 15 November 2003 12:20 pm, Robert Fox wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:58, Dennis Veatch wrote:
[...]
> Ok, there was no ~/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE for the user in
> question, if that helps any thing.
>
> But there was the /usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE and deleting that
> brought it back..Thanks.

It doesn't work for me.
I see this if I launch kcontrol in a terminal, the last line seems odd.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] gilles]$ kcontrol
Loading required GL library /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
kdecore (KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon 
directory /home/gilles/.kde/share/icons/Umicons_2.0/ group  not valid.
kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from /var/tmp/kdecache-gilles/ksycoca
kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! 
Defaulting to Settings/



[Cooker] DOUBLE CLICK, PERSISTENT ERROR

2003-11-15 Thread Luis Vicente Castillo Corbella
When fix this error, become 9.0, 9.1, and now 9.2, in 10 maybee?

Regards


Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:40 am, you wrote:
> Le sam 15/11/2003 à 13:58, Dennis Veatch a écrit :
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> >
> > Some where along the line of doing a fresh install a couple of days ago
> > and now (after running updates on cooker) I have once again lost all the
> > categories in kcontrol. The only thing that shows up right now is
> > LookNFeel with nothing under it. This is after running urpmi.update to
> > make sure I got everything.
>
> please sync with latest cooker kde 3.2 packages ( don't forget to
> logout/login ).
>
> Note : set correctly your reply-to field

I did.

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Re: [Cooker] New mutt for testing

2003-11-15 Thread Abel Cheung
On 2003-11-13(Thu) 10:45:05 +0100, Pixel wrote:
> > I think the normal package and the one with wide char support basically
> > means mutt vs. mutt-utf8 under Debian. I've compiled the ncurses with
> > wchar_t under ../ncurses/ (sorry, it's for i686). Hope I can get Pixel
> > to have a look and incorporate it into ncurses package soon.
> 
> i'm no ncurses maintainer, u'd better try warly :)

Oh yeah, I should have used rpmctl to check :-)

Abel

> 

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[Cooker] [PROPOSAL] clean /usr/share/icons

2003-11-15 Thread FACORAT Fabrice

/usr/share/icons at this time is a total mess !
Indeed, at the same time you have :
- kde icons themes
- gnome icons themes
- XFree cursors

So for example in kcontrol you will see as available icons themes the
gnome one ( but as they don't have the right filename, you will end up
with a unusable/unusefull/awfull desktop with most icon mark as blank
ones ), and also the Xfree cursors. The same applies for gnome when
tying to select a different icon in gnome theme

So IMHO :
1°/ at least XFree cursors should be moved for example to
/usr/X11R6/share/icons and XFree should be patched to use this new
location.
2°/ if we should be able to use some gnome theme from kde and vice versa
then we should have some symlinks that match the correct names for kde
... don't know but this should be fixed. 

For example in /usr/share/icons/gnome/36x36/filesystems/, the directory
icon is gnome-fs-directory.png whereas kde expect folder.png in 32x32
So we have a name problem ( gnome-fs-directory.png vs folder.png ) and
also size problem ( 36x36 doesn't exist on kde ). So maybe kde and gnome
icons location should be separated ...

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[Cooker] USB Card reader - still no luck

2003-11-15 Thread Robert Fox
SIIG USB DigiFilm-Combo Reader (JU-RC3012)

I asked about this one a long time ago (before 9.1 came out)
I submitted to the hardware request mail address without any response.
I checked the www.linux-usb.org website without help.
Still no success.

Here's the output of my lspcidrake -v:
unknown : SIIG|DigiFilm-Combo Reader [Vendor Specific
Class|Vendor Specific Subclass|Vendor Specific Protocol] (vendor:07cc
device:0004)

and in /var/log/messages:
Nov 15 19:06:09 foxbase kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:1f.4-1,
assigned address 4
Nov 15 19:06:09 foxbase kernel: usb.c: USB device 4 (vend/prod
0x7cc/0x4) is not claimed by any active driver.
Nov 15 19:06:13 foxbase /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no modules for USB
product 7cc/4/1


Any help would be nice . . .

Thx,
R.Fox




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[Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Show windows drives on desktop

2003-11-15 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
As a user that help newbies on forum and as i'm facing always the same
problem ( where are my windows drives ? can i access my windows drives
under linux ? ), I think that diskdrake when having detect a windows
partitions should put a link/icon on the desktop in order to give 
the ability for the users to directly see that they can have access to
theses drives.
 
On top of that windows partitions should be writable ( FAT32 only of
course ) by normal users ( so umask=0 should be set by default for
security level < high ). So by default diskdrake set umask=0 for windows
FAT32 partitions during install and when the user select a security
level higher than standard, then msec remove umask=0.

This also applies to a network neighborhood like icon ( see #5469 ) that
should be put on the desktop


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[Cooker] [Bug 6365] [drakxtools] New: Having windows drives on desktop by default

2003-11-15 Thread [f.faber-pro]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6365

   Summary: Having windows drives on desktop by default
   Product: drakxtools
   Version: 9.3-5mdk
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: P2
 Component: diskdrake
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


As a user that help newbies on forum and as i'm facing always the same problem ( where 
are 
my windows drives ? can i access my windows drivres under linux ? ) I think that 
diskdrake 
when having detect a windows partitions should put a link/icon on the desktop in order 
to give 
the ability for the users to directly see that they can have access to theses drives. 
On top of that windows partitions should be writables ( FAT32 only of course ) by 
normal users 
( so umask=0 should be set by default for security level < high )

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[Cooker] [Bug 4731] [Installation] 9.2rc2 : win_c and win_e are unreadable to normal user only to root

2003-11-15 Thread [f.faber-pro]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4731





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-11-15 17:48 ---
in diskdrake you can set umask=0 and the explanation clearly states that it will allow 
normal 
users to access the drives. 
The problem is that this should be default for ALL security levels under 
"élévé"/"high" as 
standard is the default one 

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I've just installed Mandrake 9.2 beta 2 and win_c and win_e are not readable to
a normal user, only root.
Hereafter are fstab, mtab, ls -l /mnt

cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount
dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
/dev/hda10 /mnt/data_linux_hda10 ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda9 /mnt/data_linux_hda9 ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda8 /mnt/linux_Mdk91 ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
#/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0
/dev/hda6 /mnt/win_e ntfs ro,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] baud]$ cat /etc/mtab
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 / ext3 rw 0 0
none /proc proc rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount
ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount
ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10 /mnt/data_linux_hda10 ext2 rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9 /mnt/data_linux_hda9 ext2 rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 /mnt/linux_Mdk91 ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /mnt/win_c vfat
rw,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 /mnt/win_e ntfs ro,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] baud]$ df -T
Sys. de fich. Type Tail. Occ. Disp. %Occ. Monté sur
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5
  ext32,0G  1,8G   71M  97% /
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part10
  ext22,0G  8,0K  1,9G   1% /mnt/data_linux_hda10
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part9
  ext24,0G  8,0K  3,8G   1% /mnt/data_linux_hda9
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8
  ext34,6G  3,9G  426M  91% /mnt/linux_Mdk91
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
  vfat 20G   18G  2,2G  89% /mnt/win_c
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
  ntfs4,9G  2,4G  2,6G  48% /mnt/win_e

[EMAIL PROTECTED] baud]$ cd /mnt/win_e
bash: cd: /mnt/win_e: Permission denied

[EMAIL PROTECTED] baud]$ ls -l /mnt
total 32
drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 aoû 13 21:01 cdrom/
drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 aoû 13 21:01 cdrom2/
drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 aoû  9 01:51 data_linux_hda10/
drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 aoû  9 01:51 data_linux_hda9/
drwxr-xr-x   18 root root 4096 aoû 13 20:55 linux_Mdk91/
drwxr--r--   24 root root16384 jan  1  1970 win_c/
dr-x--1 root root 4096 avr 13 21:57 win_e/

I had win_d before installing Mandrake 9.2, that's the part of my disk I
partitionned in 3 (there were 8 GB => 4 + 2 + 2).

I understand it for data_linux_hda9 (which I'll use as a data disk and change
with appropriate rights) but it's not understandable for win_c and win_e, they
should be at least readable for everyone and (at least) win_c writable by
everyone (I used it as a data disk in Mandrake 9.1...).

I had a problem with diskdrake as well but I'm going to open another bug as soon
 as I find some logs (those disks were planned and asked to be ext3 instead of
ext2...)



Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories

2003-11-15 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le sam 15/11/2003 à 13:58, Dennis Veatch a écrit :
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> 
> 
> Some where along the line of doing a fresh install a couple of days ago and 
> now (after running updates on cooker) I have once again lost all the 
> categories in kcontrol. The only thing that shows up right now is LookNFeel 
> with nothing under it. This is after running urpmi.update to make sure I got 
> everything.

please sync with latest cooker kde 3.2 packages ( don't forget to
logout/login ).

Note : set correctly your reply-to field

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Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 12:20 pm, Robert Fox wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:58, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >
> >
> > Some where along the line of doing a fresh install a couple of days ago
> > and now (after running updates on cooker) I have once again lost all the
> > categories in kcontrol. The only thing that shows up right now is
> > LookNFeel with nothing under it. This is after running urpmi.update to
> > make sure I got everything.
> >
> > I noticed just before this after running the updates (which there were
> > some kde ones), then going to MCC/RpmDrake it showed kdebase was not
> > installed, so I installed it and restarted kde.
> >
> > In the past (at least for me) none of the suggestions to recover the
> > items in kcontrol worked. So what do I do now short of a fresh install?
>
> Make sure you have the latest KDE stuff from Cooker . . . and then
> delete the following directories:
>
> Local user:  rm -rf ~/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE
>
> and system (as root):  rm -rf /usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE
>
> and then relogin to KDE and start the control panel
>
> This worked for me!
>

Ok, there was no ~/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE for the user in 
question, if that helps any thing. 

But there was the /usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE and deleting that 
brought it back..Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Kernel 2.6 cutover?

2003-11-15 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le ven 14/11/2003 à 15:39, Juan Quintela a écrit :
> > "svetoslav" == Svetoslav Slavtchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> svetoslav> :(
> svetoslav> so far no one (officialy)  stated anything about 2.6 and mdk-10.0, am i
> svetoslav> wrong ?
> 
> Humm, I told in previous message what I thought.  But as always, it is
> my opinion :)  Not sure what is Mandrake official opinion about the
> issue (but I guess it should be near mine :)

if i were mdksoft and as there will be the last one in desktop env, I
will delay 10.0 in order to include gnome 2.6 ( the new fileselector i'm
for during more than ... 3 years for gnome ! ), kde 3.2 and kernel 2.6.
You will have many many many people wanting to try this one. All the new
and long awaited stuff in one distro ! mdksoft will have to provide more
mirrors, for sure !
For server -> 2.4 and so you may have a fork between the desktop distro
and the server distro with the server with a longer release time

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[Cooker] [Bug 5454] [iptables] iptables 1.2.7a-1.2.8a NAT/MASQUERADE bug

2003-11-15 Thread [cooker]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5454





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-23 14:05 ---
hm this seems to explain it:

http://netfilter.org/documentation/FAQ/netfilter-faq.html#toc3.20

3.20 'iptables: Invalid argument' after kernel update (nat table)

You have just upgraded your kernel and suddenly some of the commands (especially
in the 'nat' table), and you experience something like:

# iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
iptables: Invalid argument

This happens when the structure size between kernel and userspace changes. You
will need to recompile the iptables userspace program using the include files of
your new kernel. This only happens if you (or the vendor of your kernel) has
applied some patches either only to the old or only to the new kernel. It is not
supposed to happen between vanilla kernel.org kernels. If it does, please inform
the netfilter-devel mailinglist.

--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-11-15 17:32 ---
I can get it to work with a vanilla kernel 2.4.22-10, but the smp, enterprise, and 
other 
such kernels do NOT work, nor have I been able to get any of the current kernels 
(vanilla or not) to work. I'm currently running my dual-proc box with a vanilla 
2.4.22-10 
kernel and limited RAM just so I can have iptables working. 

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Rules like
/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.2 -o ppp0 -d 0/0 -j
MASQUERADE
in MDK from 9.1-9.2rc (development) - iptables 1.2.7a / 1.2.8a
does not work - displaying : iptables invalid argumnet.
In MDK 9.0 (iptables 1.2.6a) works Ok.

Any chance to fix it in next realease?



Re: [Cooker] kcontrol lost all the categories

2003-11-15 Thread Robert Fox
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:58, Dennis Veatch wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> Some where along the line of doing a fresh install a couple of days ago and 
> now (after running updates on cooker) I have once again lost all the 
> categories in kcontrol. The only thing that shows up right now is LookNFeel 
> with nothing under it. This is after running urpmi.update to make sure I got 
> everything.
> 
> I noticed just before this after running the updates (which there were some 
> kde ones), then going to MCC/RpmDrake it showed kdebase was not installed, so 
> I installed it and restarted kde.
> 
> In the past (at least for me) none of the suggestions to recover the items in 
> kcontrol worked. So what do I do now short of a fresh install?
> 

Make sure you have the latest KDE stuff from Cooker . . . and then
delete the following directories:

Local user:  rm -rf ~/.kde/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE

and system (as root):  rm -rf /usr/share/applnk-mdk/Configuration/KDE

and then relogin to KDE and start the control panel

This worked for me!

Cheers,
R.Fox






Re: [Cooker] always the same files, please do something

2003-11-15 Thread Warly
Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'll be the loud mouth. Please fix the mirror problems. fmirror is
> always downloading the same files.

Damn, I though I had fixed it, I need to look again.

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Re: [Cooker] THOR SoundSystem 0.2 Alpha

2003-11-15 Thread Austin
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:25, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> Austin?
> 
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/thorss/?branch_id=45537&release_id=142117&topic_id=113%2C809

It's only for games, and as it is, only commercial games use it, and are
probably statically linked to it anyway.

I don't think it would be that useful to us, unless people start
developing free games with it.

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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.1.93-23mdk

2003-11-15 Thread Brad Felmey
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:03, Laurent MONTEL wrote:

> - Make happy Titi :)

If this is all you're going to enter, why even bother with a changelog?
It's a LOG of CHANGES.

"apply patch"
"make Titi happy"
"fix"

These are useless. C'mon, Laurent, everyone else seems to be able to
make a useful changelog.
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[Cooker] kbuildsycoca

2003-11-15 Thread Dennis Veatch
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This is in reference to my prior post about kcontrol being hosed. This is the 
results of running kbuildsycoca as a normal user (with some snips);

DCOPServer : slotTerminate() -> sending terminateKDE signal.
klauncher: KLauncher::process ---> terminateKDE
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
kdeinit: terminate KDE.
DCOP: unregister 'klauncher'
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kbuildsycoca running...
kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from /var/tmp/kdecache-dveatch/ksycoca
Reusing existing ksycoca
kbuildsycoca: Recreating ksycoca file (/var/tmp/kdecache-dveatch/ksycoca, 
version 70)
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Property 'X-KDE-Weight' is defined multiple times 
(KOfficeFilter)
kbuildsycoca: VFolderMenu::mergeFile: /etc/xdg/menus/mdk-configure-kde.menu
kbuildsycoca: Menu applications-kmenuedit.menu not found.
kbuildsycoca: VFolderMenu::mergeFile:
kbuildsycoca: Processing KDE Legacy dirs for 
kbuildsycoca: processKDELegacyDirs()
kbuildsycoca: Looking up applications under /usr/share/applications/
kbuildsycoca: Looking up applications under /usr/share/applications/kde/
kbuildsycoca: Looking up applications under 
/home/dveatch/.local/share/applications/
kio (KMimeType): WARNING: 'kdeveloplanguagesupport.desktop' specifies 
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'KDevelop/Part'

SNIP - lots of warnings about mimetypes

kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Video/MPlayer.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'video/msvideo'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Video/MPlayer.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-avi'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Video/MPlayer.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'audio/x-mpeg'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Graphics/The GIMP (development 
version).desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/bmp'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Graphics/The GIMP (development 
version).desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/fits'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Graphics/The GIMP (development 
version).desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/pcx'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Graphics/The GIMP (development 
version).desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/pix'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'Multimedia/Graphics/The GIMP (development 
version).desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/pnm'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dveatch]$ DCOPServer : slotSuicide() -> exit.
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 7418, errno = 0


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[Cooker] [Bug 6364] [kernel] New: update pwc

2003-11-15 Thread [eric.jp.jacob]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6364

   Summary: update pwc
   Product: kernel
   Version: 2.4.22-21mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: kernel
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I can't "make modules" with kernel-source 2.4.22-21mdk (PWC 8.11) for updating
pwc to 8.12 version. The error is : "invalid suffix b16c344".
Do you havesome idea ? Is there a patch to update PWC 8.11 to 8.12 ?
The reason why i want update pwc is that i have pwc failed on startup (my webcam
is a philips 646) and with kernel 2.4.21 all is fine (PWC 8.10)

Thanks for all.

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Re: [Cooker] Menu update problem

2003-11-15 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:14:55 +0100
Gilles Mocellin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic
parchment:

> I have this problem since a long time with my menus.
> It seems related to FluxBox's menu.
> A line is wrong in /etc/menu/menudrakeentry, with title=""
> 
> When I delete this line or I put something in title, it works.
> 
> 
> In file "/etc/menu/menudrakeentry", at (or in the definition that ends at)
> 
> line 17:
> [...] package="menu" section="Fluxbox/Styles/" title=""
> [...] ^
> Missing (or empty) tag: title
> This tag needs to defined for the menuentry to make sense.
> Note, BTW, that update-menus re-arranges the order of the
> tags found in the menu entry files, so that the part above
> isn't literal



This came through ChangeLog yesterday.  If it will *just* get through the
mirror mess.

[Contrib-RPM]

-=-=-=-
Name: fluxbox  Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 0.9.6 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 0.pre9_3mdk   Build Date: Sat Nov 15 00:10:28
2003 Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host:
klama.mandrake.org Group   : Graphical desktop/Other   Source RPM:
(none) Size: 600934   License: MIT
Signature   : (none)
Packager: Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
Summary : Windowmanager based on the original blackbox-code
Description :

Fluxbox is yet another windowmanager for X. It's a fork from the origi-
nal blackbox-0.61.1 code. Fluxbox looks like blackbox and handles
styles, colors, window placement and similar thing exactly like black-
box. So what's the difference between fluxbox and blackbox then? The
answer is: LOTS!

Have a look at the homepage for more info ;)

-=-=-=-
Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.9.6-0.pre9_3mdk

- Really really fix the menu
  (After hints from Texstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)


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[Cooker] Menu update problem

2003-11-15 Thread Gilles Mocellin
I have this problem since a long time with my menus.
It seems related to FluxBox's menu.
A line is wrong in /etc/menu/menudrakeentry, with title=""

When I delete this line or I put something in title, it works.


In file "/etc/menu/menudrakeentry", at (or in the definition that ends at) 
line 17:
[...] package="menu" section="Fluxbox/Styles/" title=""
[...] ^
Missing (or empty) tag: title
This tag needs to defined for the menuentry to make sense.
Note, BTW, that update-menus re-arranges the order of the
tags found in the menu entry files, so that the part above
isn't literal



[Cooker] [Bug 5324] [amavisd-new] Wrong expression in config file

2003-11-15 Thread [ghibo]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5324


[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED




--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-11-15 15:34 ---
You were right. Fixed in amavisd-new-0.20030616-9mdk.


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Hi,

I think there's a mistake in /etc/amavisd.conf (line 435) :

$viruses_that_fake_sender_re = new_RE(
  qr'nimda|hybris|klez|bugbear|yaha|braid|sobig|fizzer|palyh|peido|holar'i,
  qr'tanatos|lentin|bridex|mimail|trojan\.dropper'i,
  badtrans|frethem|sircam|magistr);

should be :

$viruses_that_fake_sender_re = new_RE(
  qr'nimda|hybris|klez|bugbear|yaha|braid|sobig|fizzer|palyh|peido|holar'i,
  qr'tanatos|lentin|bridex|mimail|trojan\.dropper'i,
  qr'badtrans|frethem|sircam|magistr'i);

Is that right ?

Berthy



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