Re: [Cooker] ISO making script [take IV] Troels' script
Alexander Skwar wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 09:27:26AM +0800, Leon Brooks wrote: >> I'm beginning to suspect that this script author didn't use BASH. I've added a > I use the scripts from Troels Liebe Bentsen, which I attached to this mail. > All you need to call is ./genisocooker and make sure that a) all the scripts > are in the current directory and b) that the settings in genisocooker fits > your needs. Thanks muchly, I will give it a go when I can lay hands on a working SCSI card. )-: -- Hiroshima '45 Chernobyl '86 Windows '95
Re: [Cooker] ISO making script [take IV]
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 09:27:26AM +0800, Leon Brooks wrote:
> > I'm beginning to suspect that this script author didn't use BASH. I've added a
>
> I use the scripts from Troels Liebe Bentsen, which I attached to this mail.
> All you need to call is ./genisocooker and make sure that a) all the scripts
> are in the current directory and b) that the settings in genisocooker fits
> your needs.
personal comments added:
[2. text/plain; gencompss]
#!/usr/bin/perl
open F, "bzip2 -dc @ARGV 2>/dev/null | hdlist2groups - |";
foreach () {
chop;
/(.*):(.*)/;
$l{$2}{$1} = undef;
}
close F or die;
foreach (sort keys %l) {
print "$_\n";
print "\t$_\n" foreach sort keys %{$l{$_}};
print "\n";
}
this one is no more needed, genbasefiles contains it in /misc
--
[5. text/plain; genisocooker]
[...]
# generate the dependance files
echo "generate the dependance files"
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{hdlists,hdlist.cz2}
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS
echo "hdlist.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS Installation CD (x86)" >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlists
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
$mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2
echo "hdlist2.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS2 Extension CD (x86)" >>
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlists
# Needed if you have added rpm.
echo "Needed if you have added rpm."
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/compss
./gencompss $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist*.cz2 >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/compss
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{depslist,depslist.ordered,filelist}
gendepslist2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/depslist
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genfilelist $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2 >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/filelist
better to do this
# generate the dependance files
echo "generate the dependance files"
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{hdlists,hdlist.cz2}
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS
echo "hdlist.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS Installation CD (x86)" >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlists
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
$mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2
echo "hdlist2.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS2 Extension CD (x86)" >>
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlists
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/compss
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{depslist,depslist.ordered,filelist}
genbasefiles $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/ $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genfilelist $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2 >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/filelist
# resort the hdlist with the order of the depslist to be more efficient
genhdlist_cz2 --ordered-depslist $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/depslist.ordered
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS
genhdlist_cz2 --ordered-depslist $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/depslist.ordered
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2
# create the first iso image
echo "create the first iso image"
mkisofs -r -J -V $mdkISOLABLE1\
-o $mdkISODIR/$mdkISONAME1 \
-b images/cdrom.img \
-c images/boot.cat \
$mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP \
$mdkLOCALROOT
better to use the all.img, 2.88 MB with all the modules (images/all.img)
Say me if I made some typos
--
Warly
Re: [Cooker] ISO making script [take IV]
On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 09:27:26AM +0800, Leon Brooks wrote:
> I'm beginning to suspect that this script author didn't use BASH. I've added a
I use the scripts from Troels Liebe Bentsen, which I attached to this mail.
All you need to call is ./genisocooker and make sure that a) all the scripts
are in the current directory and b) that the settings in genisocooker fits
your needs.
HTH
Alexander Skwar
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#!/usr/bin/perl
open F, "bzip2 -dc @ARGV 2>/dev/null | hdlist2groups - |";
foreach () {
chop;
/(.*):(.*)/;
$l{$2}{$1} = undef;
}
close F or die;
foreach (sort keys %l) {
print "$_\n";
print "\t$_\n" foreach sort keys %{$l{$_}};
print "\n";
}
#!/bin/sh
# Linux-Mandrake Cooker HDlist Creation, flat version
# Made by Troels Liebe Bentsen from Kenny Graunke's script.
mdkLOCALROOT=/dist/Mandrake/cooker
# generate the dependance files
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{hdlists,hdlist.cz2}
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS
echo "hdlist.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS Installation CD (x86)" >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlists
# Needed if you have added rpm.
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/compss
./gencompss $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist*.cz2 >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/compss
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{depslist,depslist.ordered,filelist}
gendepslist2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/depslist
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2
genfilelist $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS > $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/filelist
#!/bin/sh
# Linux-Mandrake Helium ISO CD Creation Script
# Made by Troels Liebe Bentsen.
mdkLOCALROOT=/dist/Mandrake-stable
mdkLOCALROOTTMP=/dist/Mandrake-stable2
mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP=/dist/Mandrake-stable2-img
mdkISODIR=/dist/iso
mdkISONAME1=MinLinux-0.1-ins.iso
mdkISONAME2=MinLinux-0.1-ext.iso
mdkISOLABLE1=MDK71INS
mdkISOLABLE2=MDK71EXT
rm -f $mdkISODIR/$mdkISONAME1 $mdkISODIR/$mdkISONAME2
# Do a little prep to get the boot images to the start of the first disk
rm -rf $mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP
mkdir -p $mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/images $mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP
mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS2 $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake
# create the first iso image
mkisofs -r -J -V $mdkISOLABLE1\
-o $mdkISODIR/$mdkISONAME1 \
-b images/cdrom.img \
-c images/boot.cat \
$mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP \
$mdkLOCALROOT
# move the images back where they belong
rm -rf $mdkLOCALROOT/images
mv -f $mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP/images $mdkLOCALROOT/images
rm -rf $mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP
# create the second iso image
mkisofs -r -J -V $mdkISOLABLE2\
-o $mdkISODIR/$mdkISONAME2 \
$mdkLOCALROOTTMP/
# Move all data back
mv $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/
rm -rf $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/
#!/bin/sh
# Linux-Mandrake Cooker ISO CD Creation Script
# Made by Troels Liebe Bentsen from Kenny Graunke's script.
shopt -s extglob
mdkLOCALROOT=/opt/Mandrake
mdkLOCALROOTTMP=/opt/Mandrake-cooker2
mdkBOOTIMAGESTMP=/opt/Mandrake-cooker-img
mdkISODIR=/opt/iso
mdkISONAME1=cooker-inst.iso
mdkISONAME2=cooker-ext.iso
mdkISOLABLE1=MDKINS
mdkISOLABLE2=MDKEXT
rm -f $mdkISODIR/$mdkISONAME1 $mdkISODIR/$mdkISONAME2
# Move rpms to where they should go.
echo "Move rpms to where they should go."
mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS/* $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2
for i in `cat $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/rpmslist` ; do
mv $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2/$i-!(*-*)-!(*-*)mdk*.rpm
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS
done
# generate the dependance files
echo "generate the dependance files"
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{hdlists,hdlist.cz2}
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS
echo "hdlist.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS Installation CD (x86)" >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlists
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
$mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2
echo "hdlist2.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS2 Extension CD (x86)" >>
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlists
# Needed if you have added rpm.
echo "Needed if you have added rpm."
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/compss
./gencompss $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist*.cz2 >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/compss
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/{depslist,depslist.ordered,filelist}
gendepslist2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/depslist
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genfilelist $mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/RPMS $mdkLOCALROOTTMP/Mandrake/RPMS2 >
$mdkLOCALROOT/Mandrake/base/filelist
# Do a little prep to get the boot images to the start of the first disk
echo "Do a little prep to get the boot images to the start of the first disk"
rm -rf $m
Re: [Cooker] ISO making script [take IV]
Leon Brooks wrote: >> Alexander Skwar wrote: > 72beta_mkcd.sh was totally broken on my (Mandrake 7.1) system. What script? Where did you get it from? >>> From the 72beta FTP page on www.linux-mandrake.com >> Works much better now that I've upgraded my rpmtools RPM (see comment in >> attached, updated, seems-to-be-working script). > Oh, well, nice theory. The sed regex near line 100 was inadequate, change it to > this: > 's/\-[^-]*\-[0-9][^-]*mdk[a-z]*\..*$//' I'm beginning to suspect that this script author didn't use BASH. I've added a few tasteful asterisks which will hopefully stop the script from trying to nest about a gigabyte of duplicate files within the first ISO. Updated script attached. -- "Sects, sects, sects! That's all you religion majors ever think about." -- Garth Snyder 72beta1_mkcd.sh
Re: [Cooker] ISO making script [take III]
Leon Brooks wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: 72beta_mkcd.sh was totally broken on my (Mandrake 7.1) system. >>> What script? Where did you get it from? >> From the 72beta FTP page on www.linux-mandrake.com > Works much better now that I've upgraded my rpmtools RPM (see comment in > attached, updated, seems-to-be-working script). Oh, well, nice theory. The sed regex near line 100 was inadequate, change it to this: 's/\-[^-]*\-[0-9][^-]*mdk[a-z]*\..*$//' -- "Source code gets compiled and libraries get loaded (insert silly drinking reference here)." -- Dave Mark "Learn C on the Macintosh"
Re: [Cooker] ISO making script
Alexander Skwar wrote: >> 72beta_mkcd.sh was totally broken on my (Mandrake 7.1) system. > What script? Where did you get it from? >From the 72beta FTP page on www.linux-mandrake.com >> The genfilelist command does not exist either in my distro or in the mirrored >> files. Where can I get one. > Look closer: > [askwar@teich ~/RPM]$ rpm -qf `which genfilelist` > rpmtools-devel-1.2-11mdk Didn't work at all well on my 7.1 system. Works much better now that I've upgraded my rpmtools RPM (see comment in attached, updated, seems-to-be-working script). Thanks for the pointer, Alexander. We chose your name for our first-born son (now 13mo), not because of this simple but effective tip but because it is a good name. Enjoy it! (-: -- "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work, driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to a job that you need so you can pay for the clothes, car and the house that you leave empty all day in order to afford to live in it." -- Ellen Goodman 72beta1_mkcd.sh
Re: [Cooker] ISO making script
On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 09:38:31PM +0800, Leon Brooks wrote: > Is the cooker list archived somewhere? Yeah, same place where all the other Mdk lists are archived, mailarchive.com, or something like this. > > 72beta_mkcd.sh was totally broken on my (Mandrake 7.1) system. What script? Where did you get it from? > > The genfilelist command does not exist either in my distro or in the mirrored > files. Where can I get one. Look closer: [askwar@teich ~/RPM]$ rpm -qf `which genfilelist` rpmtools-devel-1.2-11mdk Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
[Cooker] ISO making script
Is the cooker list archived somewhere? 72beta_mkcd.sh was totally broken on my (Mandrake 7.1) system. The genfilelist command does not exist either in my distro or in the mirrored files. Where can I get one. To discover this, I had first to find out after much waiting that the 72beta_mkcd script itself is dead, in particular, the section which moves stuff back out of the second CD's RPMS2 directory into the first's RPMS directory needed a sed filter to extract each base RPM name before applying a wildcarded mv to it (see attached script, at line 94). -- double value;/* or your money back! */ short changed; /* so triple your money back! */ -- Larry Wall in cons.c from the perl source code 72beta1_mkcd.sh
RE: [Cooker] iso of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta
that's what I'm talking about where is it!!! > ok - where is it??? I've been checking mirrors all morning with no luck. I > can't even find the complete non-iso version (found a 7.2 beta folder on > rpmfind, but it had nothing in the /images directory. > > Mike > > > List-Owner: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [Cooker] iso of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta > > > > > > 'lo folks, happy to announce to you before everyone else that you can > > grab the new Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta (Ulysses) iso files for > > CD 1 and 2 from your favorite iso mirror. > > > > Remember that it is our first beta (alpha ?) and that a lot > > of work still needs to be done, enjoy anyway. > > > > A new iso will be made in one or 2 weeks, and release candidates > > should appear by the end of the month. > > > > Anyone wanna make an announcement on slashdot .. > > > -- > Geoff -- WHEREEVER YOUR HEAD GOES YOUR ASS WILL FOLLOW!!
RE: [Cooker] iso of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta
ok - where is it??? I've been checking mirrors all morning with no luck. I can't even find the complete non-iso version (found a 7.2 beta folder on rpmfind, but it had nothing in the /images directory. Mike > List-Owner: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Cooker] iso of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta > > > 'lo folks, happy to announce to you before everyone else that you can > grab the new Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta (Ulysses) iso files for > CD 1 and 2 from your favorite iso mirror. > > Remember that it is our first beta (alpha ?) and that a lot > of work still needs to be done, enjoy anyway. > > A new iso will be made in one or 2 weeks, and release candidates > should appear by the end of the month. > Anyone wanna make an announcement on slashdot .. -- Geoff
Re: [Cooker] iso of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta
> List-Owner: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Cooker] iso of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta > > > 'lo folks, happy to announce to you before everyone else that you can > grab the new Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta (Ulysses) iso files for > CD 1 and 2 from your favorite iso mirror. > > Remember that it is our first beta (alpha ?) and that a lot > of work still needs to be done, enjoy anyway. > > A new iso will be made in one or 2 weeks, and release candidates > should appear by the end of the month. > Anyone wanna make an announcement on slashdot .. -- Geoff
[Cooker] iso of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta
'lo folks, happy to announce to you before everyone else that you can grab the new Linux-Mandrake 7.2 beta (Ulysses) iso files for CD 1 and 2 from your favorite iso mirror. Remember that it is our first beta (alpha ?) and that a lot of work still needs to be done, enjoy anyway. A new iso will be made in one or 2 weeks, and release candidates should appear by the end of the month. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
William H Bouterse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I may not agree with Guillaume on XFCE/XFWM ;) > but this sounds like a reasonable solution !? what do you mean? xfce is GPL. [and i obviously did not say anything on xfce for long, except that i don't like it :-)] -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > William H Bouterse a écrit : > > > > I may not agree with Guillaume on XFCE/XFWM ;) > > but this sounds like a reasonable solution !? > It seems you are confusing me with my honorable homonym working for > MandrakeSoft, Guillaume Cottenceau, as i never expressed any kind of > opinion about XFCE/XFWM (in fact, i never heard of it before). Me neither. Bill, can you quote exactly G. Rousse's statement? > I'm getting to put a copyright on my first name to avoid such horrible > confusion in the future ... :-) -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
"David Foresman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i always use SBLIVE as the perfect example of this. > > Before creative opened the source for emu10k1, the driver was binary only, > only worked with 1 kernel, and didn't work that well. > > After 1 month of being open source, the driver compiled, ran great, was smp > compatible, and was working better than ever. Now it's even better than > that. > > If nvidia or any of the other hardware makers could do that, they would > benifit with code they could probably take to winblows and improve > performance over there. Yes -- obviously! Problem is that many companies use many resources/efforts to protect their "innovations", therefore they fear that openning sources will lead their competitors to steal their good ideas. This is the same for ID software, for example, who open the source of their old stuff because it would then be of no help to competitors, whereas obviously their current stuff is pretty good compared to competitors. But -- openning the source would also lead to improvement in the quality of the software, provided the base of hackers interested in this stuff is large enough (which is not always true). So this would also benefit greatly to the sales of current product of the company because then linuxians would be more subject to choose this hardware, once it is well supported. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > it under some free license, i ain't gonna vote to include htem in the distro. Anyway; we have made MandrakeSoft's position very clear: nothing non-free should be in the installation CDROM, except Netscape (because we can't remove it at present time). -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Those binaries could be provided on commercial CD for full boxed > distribution, and a README file explaining why they aren't included, Yes, that is what was studied, at least for riva stuff. I don't know what is the status. Jean-Loup? > along with correct links and installation instruction, could be provided > on main CD ? As long as it's on comm CD, the installer can handle it since 7.1 -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Hello, does the 2.2.* kernel in the next release of Mandrake will include the latest patch from utah-glx for AGP? Denis -- ___ Denis Pelletier Étudiant au doctorat sciences économiques, Université de Montreal an ordinary boy an ordinary name but ordinary's just not good enough today --Our Lady Peace, Superman's Dead
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > more users are going to have current hardware, like the GeForce2, etc. For > me it is no problem to go to the site and I know exactly where to get the > drivers and who to talk to should issues arise. If everyone at Mandrake is > wanting the distro to be one of the easiest to install as well as the most > robust, I believe some of the binary drivers would be useful in the There are many problems in doing that -- one of them is potential trojan horses -- another one is GPL ideal, etc. It's bad and we won't do that. We already trolled long about that. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > We do not do sale ourselves. What I want to say is that we do not do sales by ourselves. [this sentence can be multiply interpreted ;-)] > Anyway by any chance the BETA's will only reflect the situation of a > frozen Cooker at one time. What I want to say is that: if you install the "frozen cooker" the day after the release of BETA1, it will be 99.9% the same. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
"Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO image > > Sounds like you guys are on the ball with beta testing. Good job. > > Will any TreLOS/Win4Lin kernel hooks be integrated into the Mandrake kernel > for the next version? If not, anytime later? > > Hoyt What is this "From: Guillaume Cottenceau" doing there?!?!?! -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
William H Bouterse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could the non-included binaries be mentioned > and simple directions in where to go to get them > be included? This might aid in crossing the bridge > from "only the source" to "but the binary works" :) That was a question for aureal stuff for example. This is up to pixel and denis AFAIK. But this is not something we're glad to spend time on. > I have a connection much to slow to grab the ISO > with any reliability. Could the betas be offered > for sale (with the no guarantee clause of course). > I would be glad to pay a little more from MandrakeSoft > rather than waiting for CheapBytes, etc. We do not do sale ourselves. Anyway by any chance the BETA's will only reflect the situation of a frozen Cooker at one time. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
- Original Message - From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO image Sounds like you guys are on the ball with beta testing. Good job. Will any TreLOS/Win4Lin kernel hooks be integrated into the Mandrake kernel for the next version? If not, anytime later? Hoyt
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Warly wrote: > > > > Dear cooker members, > > > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. > > Noted that it is for 7.2, and NOT for a 7.2 beta test. > No mention of at least a pretence of a beta test, so this time you > are at least being honest. You're kidding!? This is the first iso image, e.g. first BETA, for the upcomming LM 7.2 [...] > Perhaps you know what is going on, but we out here do not. For > example, where does this iso fit in the entire scheme of things? Already told here -- we plan 2/3 ISO's or more if needed. Let's precise: 2/3 ISO's of BETA versions. > Will it stay guaranteed frozen for long enough for a testing cycle > (what is that? - say 1 or two months?) And what are you hoping for Freeze will go deeper as long as time passes. First, the internal development will be soon frozen; second, upgrade for packages; third, bugfixes for packages. > from the Cooker community in response?Will the ISO include Testing the ISO's if you would like. > documentation of the full list of all the enhancements and of any > changed procedures over 7.1? And particularly list any 7.1 Certainly. > applications or features not being carried forward into 7.2? Possibly. Depending on QA's I believe -- qa? -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] ISO image
Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > So are you still dead set against using binary drivers? The Diamond yes we are ;-). [...] -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] ISO image
[pasting an old mail from me] As KDE 2 propose to use the search engine ht://Dig for the search of his documentation, should ht://Dig get in cooker now ? If so, I suggest also : -- you add the accent patch to manage fuzzy searching on accented caracters (everyday users of ht://Dig know how important it is). For the accent patch see : <ftp://sol.ccsf.cc.ca.us//htdig-patches/3.1.5/accents.5> -- Linux-Mandrake also should have a better integration of ht://Dig (links with dictionnaries, better integration with Apache, and so on (I can discribe precisaly if you intend to do it)). -- Last ht://Dig Mandrake RPM package also have some problem to work : I suggest to see the problem of the sorting process when we use accented caracters. I discribe it and publish a solution in the htdig mailing list. See : http://www.htdig.org/mail/2000/05/0242.html Of course, in next Mandrake release, ht://Dig even should be automatically installed if KDE 2 package is chosen in the install process. I tested the search tool in KDE 2 : it works great ! Just try it ! Charles Népote. > -Message d'origine- > De : Warly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Envoyé : samedi 19 août 2000 13:23 > À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : [Cooker] ISO image > > > Dear cooker members, > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. > > If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > give your comments fast. > > We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, > and would like to let you better informed for this version. > > Thanks > > -- > Warly >
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> I for one make it a practice of purchasing a boxed set > anyway to help the "cause" even if I already have it up > and running. Plus its good to have something "packaged" > to show potential new users/customers. Heck somone has to pay > the salaries/wine bills. I once sent smoked salmon to a developer but > the tarriff might be a bit high to EU> :) i think you can buy kippers online ;-)
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i know it's only beta but how about the g400 driver for xfree4.1, ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/linux/2000/beta/ with a few people using it in the 7.2 betas &co, they may be able to get a stable release out intime for 7.2
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 01:40:06PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: > > On Sat Aug 19, 2000 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Bryan Paxton wrote: > > > This prolly should have been brought up way earlier before a > > > code freeze. And I doubt it's possible to get this idea into the > > > installer now, at least for this version cycle. > > > But the install needs the ability when in custom or expert mode to save > > > your package selection configuration. > > > That way, if something horrible goes wrong, you don't have to spend > > > another nasty amount of time selectings all the packages you want > > > installed again. This may also be good for for the entire configuration > > > period, of you would need to double check with the user that x and y > > > settings are ok. > > This has my vote too. I'd vote for putting it on a floppy. That way I can > run around and do all my upgrades with the exact same package selections! Yes floppy was the idea : ) I suppose I should have mentioned that ; p -- Bryan Paxton Backup: The duplicate copy of crucial data that no one bothered to make; used only in the abstract.
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Hi, Simple request, that I do not know how to do... Could you release freetds as a RPM in 7.2 (www.freetds.org). Freetds is a library that allows database connection to MS-SQL and SYBASE servers. When PHP is compiled with --enable-sybase, it allows the PHP code to access the above database through php sybase calls. It is important in entreprise environement... I have been using freetds (manual install and PHP repackaging) for a year now, and it working fine on my corporate server. Thanks. Franck Martin Database Development Officer SOPAC South Pacific Applied Geoscience Commission Fiji E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web site: http://www.sopac.org/ <http://www.sopac.org/> This e-mail is intended for its recipients only. Do not forward this e-mail without approval. The views expressed in this e-mail may not be neccessarily the views of SOPAC. -Original Message- From: Warly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] ISO image Dear cooker members, We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming Linux-Mandrake 7.2. If you want some special versions or patches included in, please give your comments fast. We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, and would like to let you better informed for this version. Thanks -- Warly
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On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 01:40:06PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Sat Aug 19, 2000 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Bryan Paxton wrote: > > > This prolly should have been brought up way earlier before a code > > freeze. And I doubt it's possible to get this idea into the installer now, at > > least for this version cycle. > > But the install needs the ability when in custom or expert mode to save your > > package selection configuration. > > That way, if something horrible goes wrong, you don't have to spend another > > nasty amount of time selectings all the packages you want installed again. > > This may also be good for for the entire configuration period, of you would > > need to double check with the user that x and y settings are ok. This has my vote too. I'd vote for putting it on a floppy. That way I can run around and do all my upgrades with the exact same package selections! -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org "Heuristics are bug ridden by definition. If they didn't have bugs, then they'd be algorithms."
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote: > On Sat Aug 19, 2000 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Bryan Paxton wrote: > > This prolly should have been brought up way earlier before a code > > freeze. And I doubt it's possible to get this idea into the installer > > now, at least for this version cycle. > > But the install needs the ability when in custom or expert mode to save > > your package selection configuration. > > That way, if something horrible goes wrong, you don't have to spend > > another nasty amount of time selectings all the packages you want > > installed again. This may also be good for for the entire configuration > > period, of you would need to double check with the user that x and y > > settings are ok. > > This is an awesome idea that I agree with whole-heartedly. I aim to please ; ) But like I said, I can't imagine how it would make it into 7.2 -- Bryan Paxton Backup: The duplicate copy of crucial data that no one bothered to make; used only in the abstract.
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On Sat Aug 19, 2000 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Bryan Paxton wrote: > This prolly should have been brought up way earlier before a code > freeze. And I doubt it's possible to get this idea into the installer now, at > least for this version cycle. > But the install needs the ability when in custom or expert mode to save your > package selection configuration. > That way, if something horrible goes wrong, you don't have to spend another > nasty amount of time selectings all the packages you want installed again. > This may also be good for for the entire configuration period, of you would > need to double check with the user that x and y settings are ok. This is an awesome idea that I agree with whole-heartedly. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net // Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org // MandrakeSoft, Inc. www.linux-mandrake.com 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux uptime: 1 day 3 hours 28 minutes.
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William H Bouterse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could the non-included binaries be mentioned > and simple directions in where to go to get them > be included? This might aid in crossing the bridge > from "only the source" to "but the binary works" :) try urpmf!
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Anton Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Side note to Pixel: While the installer has improved tremendously since > you started the GI, it is still *much* slower than the old one we used > on 6.x (ca. 40 minutes to install 1 GB, compared to 15-18 with the 6.x 15-18 for installing 1GB in 6.x ? really? > installer on a p200). Ignoring interface changes, what about the > installer is causing these slowdowns? we don't really know what makes the rpmlib but that slow :-(
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Troels Liebe Bentsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Keyboard selection in 7.1 is broken (at least for danish keyboard), i > would be nice to see this fixed i 7.2. how is it in cooker? ok? > Move Keyboard and Language selection to bootdisk's so it would be > possible to localize the bootdisks. not possible, not enough room :-/
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Well first off.. Make a beta that is freezed totally ( atleast for a week) Where I can test and give pointers and not get a message saying "Oh we have fixed that.. didn't you mirror this or that package??" A freeze is where NOTHING happens to the packages for a while, while we are testing.. It is very annoying to download and install the latest version and while testing you guys put out 10 changed packages.. Every time you guys release a package all previous testing is vasted. Also there still is NO way for mr Linux Newbie to change between Gnome and KDE. Linux Newbie doesn't know that he should do a echo startkde >~/.xinitrc to get kde instead of gnome wich seems to be the default these days. Michael Irving with his 4 cents - Original Message - From: "Warly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:23 PM Subject: [Cooker] ISO image > > Dear cooker members, > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. > > If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > give your comments fast. > > We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, > and would like to let you better informed for this version. > > Thanks > > -- > Warly > > >
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Warly wrote: > > Dear cooker members, > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. Noted that it is for 7.2, and NOT for a 7.2 beta test. No mention of at least a pretence of a beta test, so this time you are at least being honest. An ISO is premature - You do recall that we have been publicly promised a new distribution tree for 7.2 beta, separate from Cooker? This plainly should precede an ISO, and in fact must already exist within MandrakeSoft, but has NOT been made public or given to the mirrors. > If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > give your comments fast. > > We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, > and would like to let you better informed for this version. I appreciate that greatly. > Thanks And no thanks, for me. Perhaps you know what is going on, but we out here do not. For example, where does this iso fit in the entire scheme of things? Will it stay guaranteed frozen for long enough for a testing cycle (what is that? - say 1 or two months?) And what are you hoping for from the Cooker community in response?Will the ISO include documentation of the full list of all the enhancements and of any changed procedures over 7.1? And particularly list any 7.1 applications or features not being carried forward into 7.2? -- Regards, Ron. [AU]
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William H Bouterse a écrit : > > I may not agree with Guillaume on XFCE/XFWM ;) > but this sounds like a reasonable solution !? It seems you are confusing me with my honorable homonym working for MandrakeSoft, Guillaume Cottenceau, as i never expressed any kind of opinion about XFCE/XFWM (in fact, i never heard of it before). I'm getting to put a copyright on my first name to avoid such horrible confusion in the future ... :-) -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
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I may not agree with Guillaume on XFCE/XFWM ;) but this sounds like a reasonable solution !? Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Those binaries could be provided on commercial CD for full boxed > distribution, and a README file explaining why they aren't included, > along with correct links and installation instruction, could be provided > on main CD ? > > -- > Guillaume Rousse I for one make it a practice of purchasing a boxed set anyway to help the "cause" even if I already have it up and running. Plus its good to have something "packaged" to show potential new users/customers. Heck somone has to pay the salaries/wine bills. I once sent smoked salmon to a developer but the tarriff might be a bit high to EU> :) William Bouterse Talkeetna Alaska
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Submitted 19-Aug-00 by Warly: > Dear cooker members, > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. Would it be possible/feasible to some of the mirrors to mount the ISO as a loopback so that we could simply mirror/update packages? Frankly, the only system I hav available for testing I would prefer not to do fresh installs on (and as I recall, the upgrade code is still terribly slow). Side note to Pixel: While the installer has improved tremendously since you started the GI, it is still *much* slower than the old one we used on 6.x (ca. 40 minutes to install 1 GB, compared to 15-18 with the 6.x installer on a p200). Ignoring interface changes, what about the installer is causing these slowdowns? -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request Authors (and perhaps columnists) eventually rise to the top of whatever depths they were once able to plumb. -- Stanley Kaufman
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i always use SBLIVE as the perfect example of this. Before creative opened the source for emu10k1, the driver was binary only, only worked with 1 kernel, and didn't work that well. After 1 month of being open source, the driver compiled, ran great, was smp compatible, and was working better than ever. Now it's even better than that. If nvidia or any of the other hardware makers could do that, they would benifit with code they could probably take to winblows and improve performance over there. - Original Message - From: "Geoffrey Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO image > [...] > > > Remember also, complaining to the manufacturers can eventually pay off. > > Witness the recent availability of open source drivers for Yamaha PCI > > sound cards. > > > > Were I a hardware manufacturer, I wouldn't care what operating system > > was installed on the machine it was going into as long as the hardware > > was compatible (can't put an ISA card into a Mac, for example). And > > that is how the manufacturers _used_ to view things. No matter what you > > choose to blame the change on, it is still the manufacturers who are > > making it difficult. > > > > still, the binary drivers *is* a start. i guess they must be wondering why > even with drivers the major distributions aren't contcating htem about > licensing issues with including it in their main distro! :) in general something > in GNU/Linux without source .tar.gz, i don't use it ... > > back to the point, until they open source the drivers, or better still release > it under some free license, i ain't gonna vote to include htem in the distro. > > -- > Geoff > >
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[...] > Remember also, complaining to the manufacturers can eventually pay off. > Witness the recent availability of open source drivers for Yamaha PCI > sound cards. > > Were I a hardware manufacturer, I wouldn't care what operating system > was installed on the machine it was going into as long as the hardware > was compatible (can't put an ISA card into a Mac, for example). And > that is how the manufacturers _used_ to view things. No matter what you > choose to blame the change on, it is still the manufacturers who are > making it difficult. > still, the binary drivers *is* a start. i guess they must be wondering why even with drivers the major distributions aren't contcating htem about licensing issues with including it in their main distro! :) in general something in GNU/Linux without source .tar.gz, i don't use it ... back to the point, until they open source the drivers, or better still release it under some free license, i ain't gonna vote to include htem in the distro. -- Geoff
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[ ...] feeling lazy, going to cat the 2 replies to one. > > I agree with you Geoff as far as ideals are concerned. The source for these > > drivers *should* be available. However, as far as ease of use goes, more and but they aren't that's why we don't want to include them. > > more users are going to have current hardware, like the GeForce2, etc. For > > me it is no problem to go to the site and I know exactly where to get the > > drivers and who to talk to should issues arise. If everyone at Mandrake is > > wanting the distro to be one of the easiest to install as well as the most > > robust, I believe some of the binary drivers would be useful in the > > distribution. I don't mean to draw flames, and this is not a request for > > myself; it's a consideration for new users with newer hardware. yes, but remember, this isn't just about the latest hardware, if you can stand binary only drivers then i can safely assume that you can stand a binary only distribution as well .. no. i'm going to vote against include binary only stuff. > Those binaries could be provided on commercial CD for full boxed > distribution, and a README file explaining why they aren't included, > along with correct links and installation instruction, could be provided > on main CD ? > if you can get a license agreement with those company(s) concerned then maybe something could be arranged. (this statement is definitely NOT a promise!!) -- Geoff
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Submitted 19-Aug-00 by Tim: >>> So are you still dead set against using binary drivers? The Diamond MX300 >>> sound card (one of the more popular models) uses an Aureal Chipset that >>> requires the drivers from http://linux.a3d.com. Also, I believe NVidia's >>> drivers are still binary, but will the newer cards be supported in the >>> upcoming release? < snip snailtalk's response > > I agree with you Geoff as far as ideals are concerned. The source for these > drivers *should* be available. However, as far as ease of use goes, more and > more users are going to have current hardware, like the GeForce2, etc. For I wouldn't consider the Diamond MX300 a "popular" or "new" card. Aureal has been in bankrupcy since April, and Diamond switched production to the MX400 to get away from the (no longer available) Aureal chip. Furthermore Diamond Multimedia is soon to be a non-entity as well as its parent company das decided to shut it down instead of selling it. Current hardware and open source drivers are not, by nature, mutually exclusive. As an example, we (the linux cummunity) had support for ATA-100 before Windows. This was because the information required to write the drivers was freely available. As recently as 10 years ago, the hardware you could put into a pc that required a "driver" was one of: mouse, SCSI adapter, and CD-ROM. The games all had built-in support for two standards for sound. The problem here (IMHO) isn't ideology, but rather one of paranoia. The manufacturers seem to think that they will some how lose something if somebody else knows how their hardware works. Remember also, complaining to the manufacturers can eventually pay off. Witness the recent availability of open source drivers for Yamaha PCI sound cards. Were I a hardware manufacturer, I wouldn't care what operating system was installed on the machine it was going into as long as the hardware was compatible (can't put an ISA card into a Mac, for example). And that is how the manufacturers _used_ to view things. No matter what you choose to blame the change on, it is still the manufacturers who are making it difficult. -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request There is nothing wrong with writing ... as long as it is done in private and you wash your hands afterward.
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, you wrote: This prolly should have been brought up way earlier before a code freeze. And I doubt it's possible to get this idea into the installer now, at least for this version cycle. But the install needs the ability when in custom or expert mode to save your package selection configuration. That way, if something horrible goes wrong, you don't have to spend another nasty amount of time selectings all the packages you want installed again. This may also be good for for the entire configuration period, of you would need to double check with the user that x and y settings are ok. -- Bryan Paxton Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345!
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Could the non-included binaries be mentioned and simple directions in where to go to get them be included? This might aid in crossing the bridge from "only the source" to "but the binary works" :) I have a connection much to slow to grab the ISO with any reliability. Could the betas be offered for sale (with the no guarantee clause of course). I would be glad to pay a little more from MandrakeSoft rather than waiting for CheapBytes, etc. William Bouterse Talkeetna Alaska
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Tim a écrit : > > i vote against including binary only stuff here. isn't this the point of > > some distributions after all? to build a proprietary free operating system > > I agree with you Geoff as far as ideals are concerned. The source for these > drivers *should* be available. However, as far as ease of use goes, more and > more users are going to have current hardware, like the GeForce2, etc. For > me it is no problem to go to the site and I know exactly where to get the > drivers and who to talk to should issues arise. If everyone at Mandrake is > wanting the distro to be one of the easiest to install as well as the most > robust, I believe some of the binary drivers would be useful in the > distribution. I don't mean to draw flames, and this is not a request for > myself; it's a consideration for new users with newer hardware. Those binaries could be provided on commercial CD for full boxed distribution, and a README file explaining why they aren't included, along with correct links and installation instruction, could be provided on main CD ? -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Plus petites unités de mesure - de longueur : le millimètre - de volume : le millilitre - d'intelligence : le militaire
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> > So are you still dead set against using binary drivers? The Diamond MX300 > > sound card (one of the more popular models) uses an Aureal Chipset that > > requires the drivers from http://linux.a3d.com. Also, I believe NVidia's > > drivers are still binary, but will the newer cards be supported in the > > upcoming release? > > > > you can of course use it on your LM distro without problem, but IMHO, > anything that doesn't come with source here sucks...the only exception now > i beleive is netscape, considering that amaya is not good enough, and > mozilla isn't stable enough to replace netscape, and that lynx is console- > based ... > > i vote against including binary only stuff here. isn't this the point of > some distributions after all? to build a proprietary free operating system .. > > -- > Geoff > > I agree with you Geoff as far as ideals are concerned. The source for these drivers *should* be available. However, as far as ease of use goes, more and more users are going to have current hardware, like the GeForce2, etc. For me it is no problem to go to the site and I know exactly where to get the drivers and who to talk to should issues arise. If everyone at Mandrake is wanting the distro to be one of the easiest to install as well as the most robust, I believe some of the binary drivers would be useful in the distribution. I don't mean to draw flames, and this is not a request for myself; it's a consideration for new users with newer hardware.
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My wish-list. 1 Recommend the user to make more than one bootdisk, by jumping back. ex. Second disk made bootable from fd0. 2 When the user opts for high security, absolutely no daemon, that listens out,should be initialised at boot. 3 Add a chapter to the DOC's that explain what services you think he might want to start and how. 4 All installed wm's could be written in sysconfig and the non relevants hashedout. Regards guran
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear cooker members, > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. > > If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > give your comments fast. > > We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, > and would like to let you better informed for this version. > > Thanks > > -- > Warly What i would like to see: Keyboard selection in 7.1 is broken (at least for danish keyboard), i would be nice to see this fixed i 7.2. Move Keyboard and Language selection to bootdisk's so it would be possible to localize the bootdisks. Include Aspell and pspell, redhat already do this. (But use the newest version, older version has compile problems on mandrake). Update the documentation on DrakeX, it has a many bugs, (like stating a file is obsolete, but its not). Get the GDM language selection to work. Update Webmin config_files, some of them point to the wrong places. (like dhcpd) Use helix-update i stead of Mandrake Update, and make updates to gnome available when thay come. Include Ethereal, Nessus and gtkyahoo in 7.2. Im have made some new ispell packages and is currently working on some aspell packages. You can grab them at ftp://ftp.rh.dk/sslug/ You can find gtkyahoo the same place. The changes to the ispell packages include: Reducing the size from 17 to 7 mb, standard template for all packages, improved redhat compatibility, updated wordlist for languages that had updates. It should now also be real noarch, as the hash generation is done on install (it takes about 2 sec per pkgs.). Regards Troels Liebe Bentsen
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> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe%20cooker> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe%20cooker> > List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > List-Owner: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: "Warly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:23 AM > Subject: [Cooker] ISO image > > > > > > Dear cooker members, > > > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. > > > > If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > > give your comments fast. > > > > We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, > > and would like to let you better informed for this version. > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Warly > > > > So are you still dead set against using binary drivers? The Diamond MX300 > sound card (one of the more popular models) uses an Aureal Chipset that > requires the drivers from http://linux.a3d.com. Also, I believe NVidia's > drivers are still binary, but will the newer cards be supported in the > upcoming release? > you can of course use it on your LM distro without problem, but IMHO, anything that doesn't come with source here sucks...the only exception now i beleive is netscape, considering that amaya is not good enough, and mozilla isn't stable enough to replace netscape, and that lynx is console- based ... i vote against including binary only stuff here. isn't this the point of some distributions after all? to build a proprietary free operating system .. -- Geoff
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- Original Message - From: "Warly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: [Cooker] ISO image > > Dear cooker members, > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. > > If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > give your comments fast. > > We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, > and would like to let you better informed for this version. > > Thanks > > -- > Warly > So are you still dead set against using binary drivers? The Diamond MX300 sound card (one of the more popular models) uses an Aureal Chipset that requires the drivers from http://linux.a3d.com. Also, I believe NVidia's drivers are still binary, but will the newer cards be supported in the upcoming release?
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One thing I like to see is some improvements of the Installer, when I choose upgrade automaticly I wanted to do a dist upgrade like debian. That mean I want to upgrade the exitsting packages and add the new features that have been added to the distro. I don't want to upgrade my system to the system I get from doing a new installation automaticly. //Snaggen -- Mattias Eriksson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tvistevägen 26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 907 36 UMEA Tel:090-198800 SWEDEN 070-5636769 'I don't fight for a cause Hemsida: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen I fight for the fight' PGP: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen/snaggen.asc
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> If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > give your comments fast. I'd really like to see LVM tools included in Mandrake 7.2. LVM (logical volume manager) will be included in linux 2.4 and patches are available for 2.2, so at some point, possibly within the livetime of Mandrake 7.2, LVM may become a popular feature. (Ever hated to decide on partition sizes at install time? You'll love LVM :-) ) LVM tools are available from http://lvm.msede.com/ Jan
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Warly wrote: > > Dear cooker members, > > We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming > Linux-Mandrake 7.2. > > If you want some special versions or patches included in, please > give your comments fast. > > We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, > and would like to let you better informed for this version. Get rid of the enlightenment-conf-0.15-*.i586.rpm package. 7.2 will ship with enlightenment-0.16.4 which has its own configuration dialogs included. No need for enlightenment-conf. Many things in enlightenment-conf are also broken with 0.16.x version of this windows manager. It was good for enlightenment version 0.15 but now its obsolete. Cheers, A.
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Dear cooker members, We plan to release next week our first iso image for the upcomming Linux-Mandrake 7.2. If you want some special versions or patches included in, please give your comments fast. We know that we had a bad communication process for 7.1 with you, and would like to let you better informed for this version. Thanks -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
for several days now "filelist" has been empty (0 bytes) in cooker mirrors. this is the file that tells the cd scripts which files to put on cd2. without this file, you will get no CD2. - Original Message - From: "Danny Zeng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken > Hi, > > One you have post a script to build the 2 CD set of cooker. Can you send > me the current version of this script? > > Thanks, > Danny Zeng > >
Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
Hi, One you have post a script to build the 2 CD set of cooker. Can you send me the current version of this script? Thanks, Danny Zeng
Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
Sorry. This was intended to be personal. At 01:56 PM 7/24/00, I wrote: >Hi, > >Once you have post a script to build the 2 CD set of cooker. Can you send >me the current version of that script? > >Thanks, >Danny Zeng
Re: [Cooker] ISO-7.1: Core Dumps/Illegal divison by zero -> no install
Hi Pixel, On 14 Jun 2000, Pixel wrote: > Oliver Schade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I just downloaded the 7.1 ISOs and tried to do a fresh expert install on > > my new IBM DTLA-307030 (30.7 GB): [...] > > The installation tools reports that no 'hdlists' can be found and > > jumps back to partition-tool. > cd is ok? check md5! You're right, this cd had have some errors. I downloaded a new iso-image and installation is still impossible: a) graphical installation within expert-mode crashed with 'no hdlists found' - reproducable b) text expert - mode loops for ever reporting 'Intel PCIC probe: not found Databook TCIC-2 probe: not found PCI bridge probe: not found' c) expert mode only crashed with 'no hdlists found' after reporting 'Select packages' d) 'text mem=256M' crashed with Out of memory error, segmentation fault' after selecting 'English US and Germany' as languages e) text only-mode crashed with 'no hdlists found' after reporting 'Select packages' Installation is impossible. And there is no Tom Cruise around :) MD5-checksum of the cd was correct. My hardware: Athlon-550, 256 MB RAM, 30 GB ide harddisc, GeForce 32 - 32 MB graphic, TV, Sound, Ethernet, 2 SCSI NCR800-compatible. Ciao, Oliver -- "Eine Sig ist genauso ueberfluessig wie beim Enkaufen die Hose. In irgend- einem abstrakten Sinne kaeme man natuerlich ohne aus, wenn man sein Port- monnaie in die Jeansjacke steckt. Aber es waere maechtig kuehl, und man haette das unangenehme Gefuehl, dass untenrum irgendwas Wichtiges fehlt." [http://www.ls-la.net/">My Homepage]ICQ #: 14010308
Re: [Cooker] ISO-7.1: Core Dumps/Illegal divison by zero -> no install
Oliver Schade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > > I just downloaded the 7.1 ISOs and tried to do a fresh expert install on > my new IBM DTLA-307030 (30.7 GB): [...] > d) After choosing the mountpoints with the graphical tool I choosed to > select individual pakets. This results in: > > unknown installer class developer in comssList > unknown installer class developer in comssList > Illegal dvision by zero in install_steps_gtk.pm line 303 > > The installation tools reports that no 'hdlists' can be found and > jumps back to partition-tool. cd is ok? check md5!
[Cooker] ISO-7.1: Core Dumps/Illegal divison by zero -> no install
Hi, I just downloaded the 7.1 ISOs and tried to do a fresh expert install on my new IBM DTLA-307030 (30.7 GB): a) Partitioning with the graphical tool was impossible (unknown partition table, lot's of errors) b) Calling 'fdisk /dev/hda' on the second console causes Segmentation faults (reproducable) c) After the first write of a partition-plan with the graphical tool, 'fdisk /dev/hda' seems to work. I used the following partition-table: -> Cyl 0 -6 : /boot (54 MB, /dev/hda1) 7 - 71 : swap (509 MB, /dev/hda2) 72 - 1245 : /mnt/win (9209 MB, Win95-32Bit, LBA, /dev/hda3) 1246 - 3320 : / (~ 15 GB, /dev/hda5) 3321 - 3594 : /mnt/exchange, /dev/hda6 d) After choosing the mountpoints with the graphical tool I choosed to select individual pakets. This results in: unknown installer class developer in comssList unknown installer class developer in comssList Illegal dvision by zero in install_steps_gtk.pm line 303 The installation tools reports that no 'hdlists' can be found and jumps back to partition-tool. Installation in expert-mode is impossible. Any help is welcome (and NO, I do now want to use the simple-user-mode)... Ciao, Oliver -- "Kann ich nur bestaetigen, wenn man auf der Suche nach Informationen (INFORMATIONEN, das ist das, was zwischen dem springenden 2MB grossen Kobold, dem Real-Audio-Button und der XXX-For-Free Werbung steht) ist, taugt Lynx wirklich viel." [Lakmal Gunasekara in de.comp.os.linux.misc] [http://www.ls-la.net/">My Homepage] ICQ #: 14010308
Re: [Cooker] iso
Grojer Juergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where can i download the newest beta-iso image? i'm afraid we will have too little time to release another beta-iso image. please try with cooker, or wait for the final.. -- Guillaume Cottenceau
[Cooker] iso
Where can i download the newest beta-iso image? thanx Grojer Jürgen CCN EB Mailadministration SIEMENS AG Austria Siemensstr. 88 - 92 1211 Wien Tel.: +43 51707 29153 Handy: +43 676 3792713 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
OK, so just add the extglob option:
#!/bin/sh
# Linux-Mandrake ISO CD Creation Script (thanks to Kenny Graunke for this one!)
# You MUST change these variables for your particular configuration:
shopt -s extglob
# Set this to the location of where you want to download Linux-Mandrake to.
mdkLOCALROOT=/mnt/disk
# Set these to the location where you want your ISO images to be created.
mdkISO1DIR=/output/directory
mdkISO2DIR=/output/directory
# Set this to 1 to download Linux-Mandrake.
mdkMIRROR=0
# Set these to your FTP mirror and directory, respectively:
mdkFTPSITE=ftp.somewhere.org
mdkFTPDIR=/some/dir/hydrogen
# You should not have to change anything below this point.
#mirror from ftp preserving permissions and symlinks
cd $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror
[ "$mdkMIRROR" = "1" ] && lftp -c "open $mdkFTPSITE\; cd $mdkFTPDIR\; mirror"
# create new directories to separate the rpms for the two cds
mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp
mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2
mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2
# move all files in the directory for CD2
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/* $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1
# move the apropriate files in the directory for first CD
for i in `cat $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/rpmslist`
do
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/$i-!(*-*)-!(*-*)mdk*.rpm
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/RPMS/
done
# generate the dependance files
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/{hdlists,hdlist.cz2}
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/RPMS/
echo "hdlist.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS Installation CD" >
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/hdlists
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genhdlist_cz2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/
echo "hdlist2.cz2 Mandrake/RPMS2 Extension CD" >>
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/hdlists
rm -f $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/{depslist,deplist.ordered,filelist}
gendepslist2 -o $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/depslist
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz2 $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz2
genfilelist $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/RPMS $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2 >
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/filelist
# Do a little prep to get the boot images to the start of the first disk
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/images $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp
# create the first iso image
mkisofs -R \
-o $mdkISO1DIR/hydrogen.iso \
-b images/cdrom.img \
-c images/.catalog \
$mdkLOCALROOT/tmp \
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd1
# move the images back where they belong
mv $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp/images $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/
rmdir $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp
# create the second iso image
mkisofs -R \
-o $mdkISO2DIR/hydrogen_extentions.iso \
$mdkLOCALROOT/cd2
--
Warly
Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 09:58:02PM -0700, Kenny Graunke wrote: > Sorry...it didn't attach... : ( > # Linux-Mandrake ISO CD Creation Script > # You MUST change these variables for your particular configuration: > > # Set this to the location of where you want to download Linux-Mandrake to. > mdkLOCALROOT=/mnt/disk > # Set these to the location where you want your ISO images to be created. > mdkISO1DIR=/output/directory > mdkISO2DIR=/output/directory > # Set this to 1 to download Linux-Mandrake. > mdkMIRROR=0 > # Set these to your FTP mirror and directory, respectively: > mdkFTPSITE=ftp.somewhere.org > mdkFTPDIR=/some/dir/hydrogen > > # You should not have to change anything below this point. > > #mirror from ftp preserving permissions and symlinks > cd $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror > [ "$mdkMIRROR" = "1" ] && lftp -c "open $mdkFTPSITE\; cd $mdkFTPDIR\; mirror" > > # create new directories to separate the rpms for the two cds > mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp > mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2 > mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2 > > # move all files in the directory for CD2 > mv $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/* $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/ > mv $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1 > > # move the apropriate files in the directory for first CD > for i in `cat $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/rpmslist` > do > mv $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/$i* $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/RPMS/ > done > This loop does not work very well, since rpmlist only has the main name of the package listed and you will for example get all packages that start with perl moved, even though some of them should stay below the cd2 directory. Running this, the ISO file for cd1 ended up at about 710 MB. Try fitting that onto a CD! > # Do a little prep to get the boot images to the start of the first disk > mv $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/images $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp > > # create the first iso image > mkisofs -R \ > -o $mdkISO1DIR/hydrogen.iso \ > -b images/cdrom.img \ > -c images/.catalog \ > $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp \ > $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1 > > # move the images back where they belong > mv $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp/images $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/ > rmdir $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp > > # create the second iso image > mkisofs -R \ > -o $mdkISO2DIR/hydrogen_extentions.iso \ > $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2 -- Jan Lindheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] M.S. 158-79 Caltech Pasadena, CA 91125 USA Tel: (626) 395-3926, FAX: (626) 584-5917
RE: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
you forgot the attachment. :-) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kenny Graunke > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken > > > Following up on my own post... > > I found even more errors in the ISO script. I've attached my (IMHO) > improved version: > * Many bug fixes - It now runs ; ) > * You only have to replace paths at the beginning of the script *once* - > rather than all throughout the script. > > I have not tested the mirroring capability of this (or the original) > script. We still need to add the rpmslist file, in cd1/Mandrake/Base. I > am not familiar with the two CD layout, so perhaps I screwed it up > putting things under Mandrake/RPMS2 on the second CD. This is easy to > fix, though. I have not tried installing from the ISO images generated > by this script, as I only had a fake rpmslist file. > > I hope this helps! I look forward to working with the Mandrake team. > > Kenny : ) >
Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
Sorry...it didn't attach... : ( # Linux-Mandrake ISO CD Creation Script # You MUST change these variables for your particular configuration: # Set this to the location of where you want to download Linux-Mandrake to. mdkLOCALROOT=/mnt/disk # Set these to the location where you want your ISO images to be created. mdkISO1DIR=/output/directory mdkISO2DIR=/output/directory # Set this to 1 to download Linux-Mandrake. mdkMIRROR=0 # Set these to your FTP mirror and directory, respectively: mdkFTPSITE=ftp.somewhere.org mdkFTPDIR=/some/dir/hydrogen # You should not have to change anything below this point. #mirror from ftp preserving permissions and symlinks cd $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror [ "$mdkMIRROR" = "1" ] && lftp -c "open $mdkFTPSITE\; cd $mdkFTPDIR\; mirror" # create new directories to separate the rpms for the two cds mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2 mkdir -p $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2 # move all files in the directory for CD2 mv $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/* $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/ mv $mdkLOCALROOT/mirror $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1 # move the apropriate files in the directory for first CD for i in `cat $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/base/rpmslist` do mv $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/$i* $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/Mandrake/RPMS/ done # Do a little prep to get the boot images to the start of the first disk mv $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/images $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp # create the first iso image mkisofs -R \ -o $mdkISO1DIR/hydrogen.iso \ -b images/cdrom.img \ -c images/.catalog \ $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp \ $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1 # move the images back where they belong mv $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp/images $mdkLOCALROOT/cd1/ rmdir $mdkLOCALROOT/tmp # create the second iso image mkisofs -R \ -o $mdkISO2DIR/hydrogen_extentions.iso \ $mdkLOCALROOT/cd2
Re: [Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
Following up on my own post... I found even more errors in the ISO script. I've attached my (IMHO) improved version: * Many bug fixes - It now runs ; ) * You only have to replace paths at the beginning of the script *once* - rather than all throughout the script. I have not tested the mirroring capability of this (or the original) script. We still need to add the rpmslist file, in cd1/Mandrake/Base. I am not familiar with the two CD layout, so perhaps I screwed it up putting things under Mandrake/RPMS2 on the second CD. This is easy to fix, though. I have not tried installing from the ISO images generated by this script, as I only had a fake rpmslist file. I hope this helps! I look forward to working with the Mandrake team. Kenny : )
[Cooker] ISO Building Script is broken
Hello all, I've downloaded Mandrake 7.1beta, and I can't make ISO images: * Your script refers to "mirror/RPMS/*" I think this should be "mirror/Mandrake/RPMS/*". * It is trying to cat a file called "mirror/Mandrake/base/rpmslist". Unless I am completely blind, there is no such file...not even on your primary mirror site. ; ) Would someone please add it? I'm looking forward to getting it installed - it looks awesome! : ) Thanks! Kenny : )
Re: [Cooker] Another Cooker ISO issue
i use rsync...once you d/l all the files for cooker, rsync will only update the files (rpm's) that have changed on the ftp. it really helps, but still isn't a replacement for faster speeds. reserve about 600 mb of hdd space for the /cooker files and rsync it overnight. most times, there's only ~5 rpm's to d/l or so. (...if your not already doing this.) On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, you wrote: > Here in Juneau we have cable modem access > so downloading massive files quickly is not so > much a problem. However; > > We may be relocating to the interior in a more > remote area which has only a 2.2kps connection > if you are lucky. Others who are much more > knowledgable than I are in this same situation > so I was wondering... > > Is there, or would there be, anyway to get an ISO > Cooker image burned to CD perhaps like once a month > or two upon request, or... ? I know one can get > cheap LM 7.0 etc from various companies but not ones > closer to the "Edge". I personally would even be willing > to consider some sort or subscription service whereby for > a monthly or annual fee, I would be sent the latest updates, > contribs. etc. > > Is this possible, or maybe even actually taking place as I speak > but not generally known? > > Having to go "Cold Turkey" from my ability to actively and rapidly > interract with Mandrake releases is something I can deal > with if necessary, but am hoping there are methods available > to "compensate for the loss" > > Basically I guess the issue is, > "how can I downgrade yet continue to upgrade?" > > Excuse the ramblings. > > > William Bouterse > (presently of) > Juneau Alaska -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver >7.0
Re: [Cooker] Another Cooker ISO issue
actually I offer a service to do this. WH Bouterse wrote: > > Here in Juneau we have cable modem access > so downloading massive files quickly is not so > much a problem. However; > > We may be relocating to the interior in a more > remote area which has only a 2.2kps connection > if you are lucky. Others who are much more > knowledgable than I are in this same situation > so I was wondering... > > Is there, or would there be, anyway to get an ISO > Cooker image burned to CD perhaps like once a month > or two upon request, or... ? I know one can get > cheap LM 7.0 etc from various companies but not ones > closer to the "Edge". I personally would even be willing > to consider some sort or subscription service whereby for > a monthly or annual fee, I would be sent the latest updates, > contribs. etc. > > Is this possible, or maybe even actually taking place as I speak > but not generally known? > > Having to go "Cold Turkey" from my ability to actively and rapidly > interract with Mandrake releases is something I can deal > with if necessary, but am hoping there are methods available > to "compensate for the loss" > > Basically I guess the issue is, > "how can I downgrade yet continue to upgrade?" > > Excuse the ramblings. > > William Bouterse > (presently of) > Juneau Alaska
[Cooker] Another Cooker ISO issue
Here in Juneau we have cable modem access so downloading massive files quickly is not so much a problem. However; We may be relocating to the interior in a more remote area which has only a 2.2kps connection if you are lucky. Others who are much more knowledgable than I are in this same situation so I was wondering... Is there, or would there be, anyway to get an ISO Cooker image burned to CD perhaps like once a month or two upon request, or... ? I know one can get cheap LM 7.0 etc from various companies but not ones closer to the "Edge". I personally would even be willing to consider some sort or subscription service whereby for a monthly or annual fee, I would be sent the latest updates, contribs. etc. Is this possible, or maybe even actually taking place as I speak but not generally known? Having to go "Cold Turkey" from my ability to actively and rapidly interract with Mandrake releases is something I can deal with if necessary, but am hoping there are methods available to "compensate for the loss" Basically I guess the issue is, "how can I downgrade yet continue to upgrade?" Excuse the ramblings. William Bouterse (presently of) Juneau Alaska
[Cooker] ISO 7.0-2 - some bugs
Hi all, i've upgrades my Helios with Air from ISO 7.0-2, and now here are my troubles: 1) during installation, i choose italian keyboard layout, it put it-latin1 in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard and... never loaded it because it couldn't find it, changing it to "KEYTABLE=it" fixed the thing. 2) upgraded licq (i know that there's a newer version in ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming but i can't d/l from there) and it's a pain, nice skins but each time i wraps a line it messes the text.. 3) the worst thing to me is a lot of software il dieing 'cos it can't find "libstdc++.so.2.9" which used to be in my system and seems to have been upgraded with something that doesn't do the same. The rest is fine, nice icons, good speed optimizations. -- Voice : +39-59-329289 Fax: +39-59-218661 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4203399
Re: [Cooker] Iso
It's and iso you can burn it on anything.. On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Mike Perry wrote: > > Hi..Just a quicky here.. > > If I download the iso and then burn it on a Windoze98 machine > what happens to the case sensitive filenames etc, ie Foo or fOo which > windoze98 thinks are the same. > Michael Perry. > R&D. Dep. Netafim Magal. > <<<>>> > > -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[Cooker] Iso
Hi..Just a quicky here.. If I download the iso and then burn it on a Windoze98 machine what happens to the case sensitive filenames etc, ie Foo or fOo which windoze98 thinks are the same. Michael Perry. R&D. Dep. Netafim Magal. <<<>>>
Re: [Cooker] ISO on australian mirror
Duncan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also is there any difference between the release 5 iso disk image and > the mandrake70.iso image? If so what files have changed? there are difference, but don't know which one :-/ if you have the list of rpms from the old iso, i can give you the diff...
[Cooker] ISO on australian mirror
Hi all, The australian mirror has mandrake70.iso at ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/ but the date is 24 december, the date of the release 2 iso beta. Just wondering whats going on. Also is there any difference between the release 5 iso disk image and the mandrake70.iso image? If so what files have changed? Dunc
Re: [Cooker] ISO Image Size
John Ratke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > I assume that the goal is to make everything fit on one CD? yep [...] > Is there something I can get rid of that I won't need to install like > the Mandrake/mdkinst or Mandrake/instimage directories? > you can get rid of Mandrake/instimage > I'm glad that there are this many packages. Better too many than too > few! :) > :-)
Re: [Cooker] ISO Image Size
John Hope I'm not over-simplifying here, but I used one of the newer "80 minute" cd-r's with no prob. :) 700 meg worth. get 'um everywhere bill John Ratke wrote: > I created my own iso image by following the directions from the web > page. (Actually I had to change gi_cdrom.img to just cdrom.img). I > also ran the lftp command a few times to try to get up to date. > Unfortunately this does not delete the old versions of the rpms. So I > am afraid that I have some extra useless data. I deleted some of the > obvious duplicates, but I don't want to go searching through 1000+ > RPMS. Should I just be using rsync instead? > > The problem is that the ISO image I made is too big to burn. > (687271936 bytes or 655MB, to be exact) > > I assume that the goal is to make everything fit on one CD? Is someone > keeping track of this? > > Is there something I can get rid of that I won't need to install like > the Mandrake/mdkinst or Mandrake/instimage directories? > > I'm glad that there are this many packages. Better too many than too > few! :) > > Thanks. > > -John
[Cooker] ISO Image Size
I created my own iso image by following the directions from the web page. (Actually I had to change gi_cdrom.img to just cdrom.img). I also ran the lftp command a few times to try to get up to date. Unfortunately this does not delete the old versions of the rpms. So I am afraid that I have some extra useless data. I deleted some of the obvious duplicates, but I don't want to go searching through 1000+ RPMS. Should I just be using rsync instead? The problem is that the ISO image I made is too big to burn. (687271936 bytes or 655MB, to be exact) I assume that the goal is to make everything fit on one CD? Is someone keeping track of this? Is there something I can get rid of that I won't need to install like the Mandrake/mdkinst or Mandrake/instimage directories? I'm glad that there are this many packages. Better too many than too few! :) Thanks. -John
RE: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
I posted earlier today, about a failed upgrade attempt. I tried the upgrade again, and it finished, however I was using the ISO image, and am now recieving the same error (Could not open default font 'fixed')... Why is the ISO updated as regularly as the rest of the files? Atleast daily or every other day... Using rsync is great if your system is working, but well, mine is not now... How can you get this to work on a Windows system? I tried to download the current files, but I didn't get the file links that you get with using rsync on a Linux system. Can someone tell me which RPM I need to download that corrects this error so that I can start the X? I just signed on to the list today, and I am sure this has been addressed already... Thanks in advance, Joshua Bergland -Original Message- From: topcats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed') - Original Message - From: "Douglas F. Elznic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed') > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Yes, exact my opinion > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> But, there are some rsync servers: > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/oxygen > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://rsync.proxad.net/mandrake > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://sunsite.uio.no/linux/Mandrake Sorry for the newbe question but what is rsync never heard of it.? Topcats
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
- Original Message - From: "Douglas F. Elznic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed') > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Yes, exact my opinion > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> But, there are some rsync servers: > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/oxygen > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://rsync.proxad.net/mandrake > Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://sunsite.uio.no/linux/Mandrake Sorry for the newbe question but what is rsync never heard of it.? Topcats
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
On 28 Dec 1999, Pixel wrote: > "Ulman Sol Y. Shi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think Mandrake should provide us a compressed ISO file for faster > > downloading, dont u guys think so? > > i wonder if this would be a big win... (rpms are already compressed in gzip) The old newt install it only cut it by like 5-10Mb if i remeber right -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, you wrote: Tue, 28 Dec 1999> On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 12:24:24PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > I would discourage the maintaining of iso CD images as a distribution Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > method Tue, 28 Dec 1999> [.] Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Fully agreed Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > Better still, why do you not provide an rsync server? Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Yes, exact my opinion Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> But, there are some rsync servers: Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/oxygen Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://rsync.proxad.net/mandrake Tue, 28 Dec 1999> rsync://sunsite.uio.no/linux/Mandrake Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> to name few of them. Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > Persons requiring CDs must in any case have the necessary 640Mb to Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > download the ISO image, so why not download the files image instead Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > and install from hd? Going to CD makes no sense at all, so it follows Tue, 28 Dec 1999> > that an iso image makes no sense at all. Right? Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> As I would say Tue, 28 Dec 1999> Tue, 28 Dec 1999> What about computers with slow internet connections or no internet connections at all? There seems to be a little computer snobbery going on on this list. Between this and the fact that it is assumed that everyone is installing on big fancy machines witha lot of memory and good graphics cards. Some people need to use cd's in order to install an machines that do not have a net connection or maybe machines with out support for thier pcmcia net card. -- Douglas F. Elznic
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Pixel wrote: > "Ulman Sol Y. Shi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think Mandrake should provide us a compressed ISO file for faster > > downloading, dont u guys think so? > > i wonder if this would be a big win... (rpms are already compressed in gzip) And the end-to-end modems should have negotiated compression (usually LAPM here), which will cut the transmission time for uncompressed material by about half, and raise the receiving rate as delivered to your machine for V90 from about 5 Kb/sec to 11Kb/sec or more.But only as as long as your UART for the modem is set for at least 115200 baud. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing
On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 07:15:16AM -0600, David Hart wrote: > this week, so I've never done a lot of mirroring. Anybody feel like > giving me a quick and dirty description of how to use rsync to update > the oxygen mirror I use rsync -rltDuz --rsh ssh --delete --force --verbose \ rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/oxygen/. \ /big/linux/mandrake/7.0b for "Oxygen" and rsync -rltDuz --rsh ssh --delete --force --verbose \ rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/updates/6.1 \ /big/linux/mandrake/updates/ for the "Helios" updates. > I've already got. I've just been redoing the whole thing when I want > to try a Hhm, you might get trouble (whole stuff gets downloaded again) if your time stamps are not exact. In such cases I do a 'mirror -T ...' first to set the correct times on all files I have already. Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.sappho-net.de/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Finland http://www.sappho.net/ Web for Women (von Frauen, für Frauen) http://www.w4w.net/
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
> "Ulman Sol Y. Shi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think Mandrake should provide us a compressed ISO file for faster > > downloading, dont u guys think so? > > i wonder if this would be a big win... (rpms are already compressed in gzip) I think that site maintainers should make the decission themselves on whether they want make an ISO or maintain just a mirror. There is nothing that says a site must have either or both. That way the Dev team would not have to worry about building ISO just updating so site mirrors can get fixes. Let the maintainers of mirrors handle the decission on whether to build or not to build. Arcane :)
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Nora Etukudo wrote: > But, there are some rsync servers: > rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/oxygen Ok, I'm lazy tonight. I've never used rsync. Just got a cable modem this week, so I've never done a lot of mirroring. Anybody feel like giving me a quick and dirty description of how to use rsync to update the oxygen mirror I've already got. I've just been redoing the whole thing when I want to try a new install (damn, 250kps is nice:). Danke. -- David Hart Vincity Design *Proudly sent from Linux Mandrake 6.1*
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
"Ulman Sol Y. Shi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think Mandrake should provide us a compressed ISO file for faster > downloading, dont u guys think so? i wonder if this would be a big win... (rpms are already compressed in gzip)
Re: [Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
I think Mandrake should provide us a compressed ISO file for faster downloading, dont u guys think so? And however, I strongly support the existence of ISO, u guys dont really have to get it if u dont have burners, the ISO file IS there, it's not really that annoying, rite? Ulman Nora Etukudo wrote: > On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 12:24:24PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: > > > I would discourage the maintaining of iso CD images as a distribution > > method > [.] > > Fully agreed > > > Better still, why do you not provide an rsync server? > > Yes, exact my opinion > > But, there are some rsync servers: > > rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/oxygen > rsync://rsync.proxad.net/mandrake > rsync://sunsite.uio.no/linux/Mandrake > > to name few of them. > > > Persons requiring CDs must in any case have the necessary 640Mb to > > download the ISO image, so why not download the files image instead > > and install from hd? Going to CD makes no sense at all, so it follows > > that an iso image makes no sense at all. Right? > > As I would say > > Liebe Grüße, Nora. > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.sappho-net.de/ > Lesbian Computer Networks, Finland http://www.sappho.net/ > Web for Women (von Frauen, für Frauen) http://www.w4w.net/
[Cooker] ISO vs syncing (was: Could not open default font 'fixed')
On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 12:24:24PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: > I would discourage the maintaining of iso CD images as a distribution > method [.] Fully agreed > Better still, why do you not provide an rsync server? Yes, exact my opinion But, there are some rsync servers: rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/oxygen rsync://rsync.proxad.net/mandrake rsync://sunsite.uio.no/linux/Mandrake to name few of them. > Persons requiring CDs must in any case have the necessary 640Mb to > download the ISO image, so why not download the files image instead > and install from hd? Going to CD makes no sense at all, so it follows > that an iso image makes no sense at all. Right? As I would say Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.sappho-net.de/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Finland http://www.sappho.net/ Web for Women (von Frauen, für Frauen) http://www.w4w.net/
Unsubscribeing was RE: [Cooker] ISO Dowload problem
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Greg wrote: > can u please post how to unsubscribe .Ive done both times and no result > thanks mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s "UNSUB cooker" -c \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null If it doesn't take you off repeat it, and As i said i'll remove people manualy -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [Cooker] ISO Download problem
Hans Van Leemputten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ok, i asked to fast for support. After i reconfigured the FTP client it happily worked from the first time :) So it seem's like it was a problem with my firewall settings and the login message the ftp client could not handle (the "-" in front of the password). but any way thanks for you quick help. Hans
RE: [Cooker] ISO Dowload problem
can u please post how to unsubscribe .Ive done both times and no result thanks -Original Message- From: Chmouel Boudjnah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 27 December 1999 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ISO Dowload problem Hans Van Leemputten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can i download the ISO file, i've been trying this for 3 day's (using > cute ftp, and just my IE4). > The IE4 returns a message unable to connect message after a long time. > When i use cute ftp the program stops (doesn't do anything any more) on the > following login screen (see file ftp.txt). > <> > I also tried to download the normal files, and make a ISO file my self but > unfortunately the it seam's like the ftp client doesn't want to download the > links to files or directory (i mean he does not enter the directory when it > is a link and just skips it). I only have a directory that is 65 MB big (and > think this is not enough or is it?). > Can you explain how to do it and witch program's to use (i'm using win NT). report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], have you set your passwd to like the message say : 230-aftpd: 230-Some ftp clients may have problems with these messages. Prompting 230-aftpd: 230-and verbose messages can be shut off by entering a "-" at the 230-aftpd: 230-beginning of your password. --Chmouel
RE: [Cooker] ISO Dowload problem
Hans Van Leemputten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], have you set your passwd to >like the message say : >230-aftpd: 230-Some ftp clients may have problems with these messages. Prompting >230-aftpd: 230-and verbose messages can be shut off by entering a "-" at the >230-aftpd: 230-beginning of your password. > --Chmouel Yes, it gave no difference.
Re: [Cooker] ISO Dowload problem
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Hans Van Leemputten wrote: > How can i download the ISO file, i've been trying this for 3 day's (using > cute ftp, and just my IE4). > The IE4 returns a message unable to connect message after a long time. > When i use cute ftp the program stops (doesn't do anything any more) on the > following login screen (see file ftp.txt). > <> > I also tried to download the normal files, and make a ISO file my self but > unfortunately the it seam's like the ftp client doesn't want to download the > links to files or directory (i mean he does not enter the directory when it > is a link and just skips it). I only have a directory that is 65 MB big (and > think this is not enough or is it?). > > Can you explain how to do it and witch program's to use (i'm using win NT). > > Thanks. I suggest you by pass the firewall if posible. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[Cooker] ISO Dowload problem
How can i download the ISO file, i've been trying this for 3 day's (using cute ftp, and just my IE4). The IE4 returns a message unable to connect message after a long time. When i use cute ftp the program stops (doesn't do anything any more) on the following login screen (see file ftp.txt). <> I also tried to download the normal files, and make a ISO file my self but unfortunately the it seam's like the ftp client doesn't want to download the links to files or directory (i mean he does not enter the directory when it is a link and just skips it). I only have a directory that is 65 MB big (and think this is not enough or is it?). Can you explain how to do it and witch program's to use (i'm using win NT). Thanks. STATUS:>Connecting to ftp.linuxberg.com STATUS:>Connecting to ftp.linuxberg.com (ip = 209.58.63.207) STATUS:>Socket connected. Waiting for welcome message... 220 aftpd: Check Point FireWall-1 Secure FTP server running on firewallbe STATUS:>Connected. Authenticating... COMMAND:> USER anonymous 331 aftpd (not authenticated): Enter server password COMMAND:> PASS 230-aftpd: Connected to 209.58.63.207. Logging in... 230-aftpd: 220 ftp.linux.tucows.com NcFTPd Server (licensed copy) ready. 230-aftpd: 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230- ** Welcome to the 'Tucows Linux' Linux Distribution Archive.** 230-aftpd: 230-We are running a Dual PIII600 with 2GB RAM, 130 gigabytes of hard disk 230-aftpd: 230-space, 100mb of bandwidth, and are on the TeleGlobe network. 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230-There are currently 409 out of 500 users online. 230-aftpd: 230-Local time is Mon Dec 27 07:54:52 1999 230-aftpd: 230-All access from 194.7.172.114 is being logged. 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230-Some ftp clients may have problems with these messages. Prompting 230-aftpd: 230-and verbose messages can be shut off by entering a "-" at the 230-aftpd: 230-beginning of your password. 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230-Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] regarding any problems. 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230-ftp.linux.tucows.com is provided by Tucows Linux, a division of 230-aftpd: 230-the TUCOWS Network (http://www.tucows.com) 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230- Mirror Information: 230-aftpd: 230- 230-aftpd: 230- GNOME - /pub/GNOME 230-aftpd: 230- KDE- /pub/KDE 230-aftpd: 230- kernel.org - /pub/kernel.org 230-aftpd: 230- XFree86- /pub/XFree86 230-aftpd: 230- ARMLinux - /pub/distributions/ARMLinux 230-aftpd: 230- Caldera-OpenLinux - /pub/distributions/Caldera-OpenLinux 230-aftpd: 230- Clienux- /pub/distributions/Clienux 230-aftpd: 230- Corel - /pub/ISO/Corel 230-aftpd: 230- Debian - /pub/distributions/Debian 230-aftpd: 230- DosLinux - /pub/distributions/DosLinux 230-aftpd: 230- Independence - /pub/distributions/Independence 230-aftpd: 230- LinuxGT- /pub/distributions/LinuxGT 230-aftpd: 230- Linux/m68k - /pub/distributions/Linux-m68k 230-aftpd: 230- LinuxPPC - /pub/distributions/LinuxPPC 230-aftpd: 230- LinuxPro - /pub/distributions/LinuxPro 230-aftpd: 230- Mandrake - /pub/distributions/Mandrake 230-aftpd: 230- Mandrakebeta - /pub/distributions/Mandrake/Mandrakebeta 230-aftpd: 230- MkLinux- /pub/distributions/MkLinux 230-aftpd: 230- Netwinder - /pub/distributions/Netwinder 230-aftpd: 230- Peanut - /pub/distributions/Peanut 230-aftpd: 230- Phat - /pub/distributions/Phat 230-aftpd: 230- RedHat - /pub/distributions/RedHat 230-aftpd: 230- Slackware - /pub/distributions/Slackware 230-aftpd: 230- Stampede - /pub/distributions/Stampede 230-aftpd: 230- SuSE - /pub/distributions/SuSE 230-aftpd: 230- TurboLinux - /pub/distributions/TurboLinux 230-aftpd: 230- UltraPenguin - /pub/distributions/UltraPenguin 230-aftpd: 230- Window Maker - /pub/WindowMaker 230-aftpd: 230- Woven - /pub/distributions/Woven 230-aftpd: 230- Yellowdog - /pub
Re: [Cooker] ISO image - NeoMagic problems
Pixel, What do you mean by augmenting the timeout? I downloaded the Oxygen-2.iso last night and tried it again and it tried it. All it does is ask to use pcmcia and then after selecting no it displays continueing to second stage and then after a few moments and the CdRom spinning it comes back with that X error and then scrolls the rest of initilization strings and stops at the: (7) ISO 9660 Extension: blah blah I noticed that when I booted on other machines I got a Checking Ram disk statues bar at the beginning of the install but I don't see it on the laptop. Is there a specific reason for this? Any information is appreciated! Thanks Chris Cable --- Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Axalon Bloodstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Chris Cable wrote: > > > > > Is there a list of what has been changed or > included > > > in each successive iso image? I was just curious > if > > > there was a way to browse what has been changed, > just > > > for reference. > > > > No > > > > > Also has anyone had problems with installing > with a > > > neomagic chipset? I keep getting a X11Socket > Error > > > that says it cannot connect error = 111. > > > > Does fbcon load, if so just retry a few times. the > Xserver takes awhile to > > start sometimes. > > > > maybe augmenting the timeout will help ? > > > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
