[CTRL] Is government hacking Y2K lists?
-Caveat Lector- All: I know, I know, it must seem paranoid to ask such a question, but the following certainly provides food for thought: ~~~ Y2K BELIEVERS E-MAIL LIST As of today, we're scrapping the "believers" list for three reasons: Reason #1: Many people who signed up on the list expressed their concern that the list might be confiscated by authorities someday and be used to track down people who are preparing for Y2K (stockpiling food, ammo, etc.). In order to avoid this scenario completely, we're encrypting the database on January 11, 1999, using a 1024-bit encryption routine that's unbreakable without military-class computers. This will render the list "inactive" but will still allow us to contact you if some emergency arises. (We would simply decrypt the database, re-send, then encrypt the database again). This would mean that even if our computers were somehow confiscated, they could not access your e-mail address without the encryption phrase that only Mike Goodin knows. Reason #2: The list was originally created to provide a forum for discussing ideas such as martial law, deployment of the National Guard, potential bank failure scenarios, and so on. As it turns out, Y2K has quickly moved into the mainstream, and the idea of preparing is no longer considered loony. With the Red Cross and FEMA publicly encouraging people to prepare, and with the announcements of National Guard troop deployments now being made public, we can talk about these issues on the main list without worrying about scaring the pants off the other subscribers. BOTTOM LINE: In 1998, it wasn't "mainstream" to talk about preparedness. In 1999, it's not only mainstream, it's only the complete idiots that are still sitting around doing nothing. Reason #3: The list has been infiltrated by many people who are *not* "believers" in the Y2K preparedness movement in an effort to find "radical-sounding" text so they could try to make us sound silly in the press. Their favorite target was firearms discussions. However, if these people have any brains, they are probably right now following the very advice they were criticizing us for sharing! By ending the "believers" list, we take these infiltrators (and everybody else) out of the loop. In any case, we will continue to cover the hot topics like firearms in the public alert. As of 1999, an open discussion of "Which gun should I buy?" is no longer considered paranoid. It's a common sense question from law-abiding citizens who want to know how they can protect their families, friends and neighborhoods from criminals. THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN! We thank you for signing up on the list and hope you enjoyed the few "believers" alerts we sent out. We'll still be bringing you hard-hitting news and analysis in the public alerts. Be sure to check the page for each day's alert: http://www.y2knewswire.com FINAL ARTICLES Here are some articles we collected for the "believers" alerts but haven't yet written comments for. Check them out at your leisure: TIME TO FIX SOCIAL SECURITY? That is, if Y2K doesn't kill it first: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/981214/14soci.htm Y2K AND MARTIAL LAW (From December) http://www.worldnetdaily. com/bluesky_btl/19981208_xcbtl_y2k_and_ma.shtml WORST CASE SCENARIO DESCRIBED IN DETAIL http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1157/y2ktruth.doc GARY NORTH'S ESSAY ON FOOLS VS. FUD http://www.garynorth.com/y2k/detail_.cfm/3373 _ This e-mail is copyright (c) 1998, 1998 by Arial Marketing, Inc. All rights reserved. May not be reproduced in any form without permission. _ This e-mail message is subject to the following disclaimer: http://www.y2knewswire.com/Index.asp?pageid=disclaimer All statements made herein, and made since August of 1998, are Year 2000 Statements and are retroactively protected as Year 2000 readiness disclosures under the Good Samaritan Act "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp forwarded: Tom J. Wright A Semi-Weekly Column of Political Commentary January 1-January 15, 1999 Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly: Somebody Stop Them Before They Kill Again Although overshadowed lately by MonicaGate, the brutal beating and killing of gay University of Wyoming student Matthew Shepard, shocked the nation and disgusted people around the world. The barbarity of the murderers, who tied Matthew Shepard to a fence and beat him to death with the butts of their guns, was stunning. This vicious murder was motivated in large part, perhaps entirely, by the radical homophobia of the two men who killed him. Matthew Shepard lost his life simply because he was gay. MJ: While the conclusion may or may NOT be true [cause], what exactly makes the muder of an individual within a 'protected' group WORSE than the murder of some other individual? Murder is murder ... execute the perpetrators or otherwise [non-taxpayer] fund their permanent incarceration. Would any robbery be a 'hate crime' since the perpetrator most certainly 'hates' 'rich people'. Regard$, --MJ I quote others only in order the better to express myself. -- Michel De Montaigne DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A bit less Jefferson in William Jefferson Clinton
-Caveat Lector- "Scandal Interruptus: A bit less Jefferson in William Jefferson Clinton" So reads TIME's smarty-pants-titled piece on Clinton's not-quite scandal over his once-alleged Black child. See: A HREF="http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/daily/0,2960,18010-101990111,00.html" Time Daily - January 9, 1999: Scandal Interrupt /A http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/daily/0,2960,18010-101990111,00.html Best, Harry Allen Hip-Hop Activist Media Assassin DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] C A V E R N S,
-Caveat Lector- At 02:24 PM 1-11-1999 EST, Bob wrote: No author's name or date given for this piece, but much interesting (if unconfirmed) info... Bob === FILE NO. 007 C A V E R N S, D U N G E O N S A N D L A B Y R I N T H S Bob, This is a chapter in the book: "COSMIC CONFLICT THE DA'ATH WARS", Vol. 2, Edition 1.2 -- by Branton available many places, such as: Chapters: http://athena.gmu.edu/~cleo/crim001.txt ZIP file - entire book (1.4 Mb unzipped): http://www.alphaomegainc.com/thinkaboutit/battle.zip Also see these 'books': The Dulce Book, by Branton -- (1.3 Mb total) http://www.pufori.org/branton/the_dulce_book/index.htm The Secrets of the Mojave, by Branton -- (1.15 Mb total) http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/falcon/294/mojave1.html The Omega File, by Branton -- (550 Kb total) http://www.pufori.org/branton/the_omega_file/index.htm And: The Hollow Earth - The Greatest Geographical Discovery in History Made by Admiral Richard E. Byrd in the Mysterious Land Beyond the Poles - The True Origin of the Flying Saucers -- (400 Kb total) http://www.pufori.org/articles/hollow_earth/hollowearth_index_nf.htm Note: All these -- and several other, similar -- books are available at various sites -- almost as if they were written by a committee of propaganda artists as the basis of a New Age UFO / Occult religion (or anti-religion). They almost seem similar to the 'channelings' of 'discarnate entities', such as those who 'wrote' Alice Bailey's Theosophical Society manifestoes which demand a United Nations, and the end of all traditional Christianity, Judaim, and Islam. Theosophy's founder, Madame Helena P. Blavatsky, was a compatriot of the Freemason, General Albert Pike, who proposed (in about 1870) a future World War III -- between Zionists and Arabs -- in order to exterminate the believers in the three Western, Patriarchal religions who were unwilling to accept the new Enlightened One World Religion of Lucifer. Later, Alice Bailey, who succeeded Blavatsky (and Annie Besant) as the leader of the Theosophical Society, wrote that nuclear weapons were "a blessing in disguise" -- and would be used, if necessary, by the United Nations to exterminate the believers in the Western religions. Theosophy is a Buddist- type belief. Adolph Hitler (Thule Society) was a disciple of Blavatsky's 'Theosophical' Aryan Race philosophy from the Great White Brotherhood from Atlantis. Today, the Great White Brotherhood allegedly lives in the underground cities of Argatha and Shamballah (in Tibet). Will they have a Year 2000 coming out party ? Will they attend the lowering of the Golden Capstone (the Eye of Lucifer) on the Great Pyramid at Giza ? --Bill . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- "Brown, Jeremy" wrote: -Caveat Lector- The French are all vulgar troglodytes who rarely bathe and stink of rancid coffee and fetid wine. Those stupid berets look like deflated chef's hats.And that freakin' Eiffel tower looks like an Erector set that was never finished. It probably isn't finished. They were too busy laying down in the gutters like DOGS as the Panzer tanks rolled over their stupid accordion-playing asses. We need documentation here did they really have accordion playing a@@es if so please give the url ? Also need the url about the beret that was a chefs hat as wellplease document. lol Carlene "Oh-ho-ho, Messeiur Heetler, ze citee of Paris is yours for ze taking!" Mime sucks ass. Need to document this too. Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation
-Caveat Lector- The slave narratives are not about feelings. They are matter of fact in tone and the descriptions of conditions are well buttressed by related events. It is all but mind numbingly horrific to realize how these folks lived. It's true that they were in their teens but in those conditions, work began in earnest at age 7 or 8. My grandpa died when my dad was 5...he started selling papers then..there were thirteen in the house...children and they all contrubuted...a brother of mine started at 9and guess what they weren't slaves nor were they black. The slaves were adults in their teen years. Actually, even when i lived through the adolescent years during the 1940s, You were expected to be a fully functioning and responsible adult by age 18 during the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s. No earlier right after they graduated from eighth grade.. Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why is James Carville in Israel?
-Caveat Lector- Not too shabby Keep on keepin' on Daan -Original Message- From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 6:16 PM Subject: [CTRL] Why is James Carville in Israel? -Caveat Lector- Why is James Carville and the White House spin team interfering in another sovereign nation's elections??? It's a rhetorical question really. They are there to help Ahud Barak get elected in place of Netanyahu. Why? Because Benjamin Netanyahu will not surrender Israel to the New World Order. They tried and tried but Netanyahu can't or wont give them the land for peace deal that they want. It is Labour which is in the pocket of the failed Neo-Liberal internation- alist foreign policy elites. The CFR's court Jews have failed to sell out their brethren in the Middle East, and are now working to finagle a government they can again own when they backed Perez and Rabin. It looks like Barry Chamish blew it again. His claims that Netanyahu is a CFR shill are nil. But, to give him some credit, it was hard to tell up until the White House sent their serpentine spinner to help dump Bibi. Why are Israelis tolerating American interference in the most important elections in their history??? America's ruling elites and their Israeli and Palestinian flunkies won't be satisfied with their usual screw ups, they will only mind their own business after a major blood letting forces both sides to kick the bastards out of the Middle East. The Palestinians living in and around Israel could face extinction at the hands of Israel, and Israel could face extinction in an all out regional war. This is not a farfetched scenario now that the Palestinians are expecting to have a state with or without the condescension of Israel. We Americans bear some responsibility for what comes out of Wall Street and Foggy Bottom. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation
-Caveat Lector- Hawk wrote: -Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: Yes, there are exceptions, such as owner buying a comely mulatto girl who could sew after a fashion and taking her back home, installing her in a bedroom with a a needle and thread and announcing to the Mrs. that they had a new seamstress. I'm sure it happened... And it happens to this day. But was it the "norm?" Hardly, considering the fact that in southern states of the time, the number of mulatto births (a good indication of the amount of mixed-race sexual intercourse) was -- as an example one mulatto for each 33 blacks (S. Carolina), while in Ohio there were 14,000 mulattoes to 11,000 blacks. Seems as though the white men in Ohio were somewhat greater attracted to black females than were the while men in the South. Not necessarily. It seems to me more likely that the fathers who impregnated their slaves would free their progeny. So their would be a higher percentage of mulatos among the freed slaves for that reason and not because of race mixing in the north. best wishes, Howard Davis ps I once visited a friend of mine who was living in a house about 30 miles north of Atlanta which had been built around 1830. Adjoining and to its rear was another house approximately equal in size and construction. There were small doors like dumb waiter doors between the houses for passing food. The rear house was the slave quarters. It really was not much different from the other. My friend noticed some writing on the wall apparently under a removed self. It seemed to be in two languages. The second said something like: "An end to this war and and end to slavery". DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Civil Action #1
this is a forward from another list. Laura Hi All,Thought this was important.I received this message from Bill Ravanesi via a forward. It is amessage everyone should get and then go see the movie, A Civil Action.Being chronically sick is not normal. Having cancer is not normal. Allof the neurological and reproductive problems we see today are notnormal and we should not accept them as such. Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 7:48 PM Subject: A room with a view in Woburn, Massachusetts Folks, On the eve of the national premiere of the film A CIVIL ACTION, I would like to reflect on some of my personal memories of Woburn: I have more than a professional interest in the poisoning of the Woburn town wells with industrial solvents by several corporations including W R Grace and Beatrice Foods. My family drank, cooked showered with the water from Wells G H in Woburn, Massachusetts between 1971 and 1979. Let me describe briefly the panoramic view from my parents' home at 20 Henry Ave, east Woburn: The Kane house is also on Henry Ave. just several frontyards away. Kevin Kane Jr., at 2 1/2 years old was diagnosed in the summer of 1973 with acute lymphocytic leukemia. Patrick Toomey and his family lived around the corner from the Kanes, just a short distance due north of my parents home. Patrick Toomey died of acute lymphocytic leukemia in 1979, at the age of 11. Anne Anderson's home was less than a five minute walk to the east. Jimmy Anderson, her youngest child, died of acute lymphocytic leukemia in 1981, at the age of 12. The Zonas, Aufieros and the Gamaches were nestled around Anne Anderson's home in the Pine Street neighborhood. Leukemia seeped into those homes as well. The G H contaminated wells were about 1/4 mile to the northeast of these homes. Time passed. Each summer the townspeople were told by city officials that there was a water shortage and that limits were placed upon its use. They were never told that solvents contaminated their drinking water between 1964-1979, nor were they told that as the water level in the wells dropped the concentration of toxins in the wells became even higher. In fact, just prior to sinking the new wells in 1964 the town notables were advised that the area selected for the placement of the wells had contamination problems. Nonetheless, they sank the wells and time passed. If I remember correctly, the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection tried to shut the wells in the late 60s, but the town notables pressured the agency to back off, and they did. In fact, Tom Mernin, the city engineer who lived on Wood St.(a few minutes away from my parents home) would often see my dad watering his garden, sometimes while water regulations were enforced. He usually blew the whistle on him when he got downtown. My dad would get fined each August by the city of Woburn for watering his sizable garden-- it might have been the most toxic garden in Massachusetts. In reality, he was getting fined not as he imagined, for growing safe food for his family, but for watering his greens with trichloroethylene (TCE)! Mernin was the local official who actually had the power to shut the wells down, but he thought Anne Anderson and the others were fruitcakes (I'm sure this sounds all too familiar). He was frequently quoted in the local paper that the residents of Woburn had nothing to fear, just turbidity problems, the water was safe, end of story! The town notables?fontfamily?param Geneva?color?param 03E8,0013,00C8?smaller repeatedly?/smaller?/color?/fontfamily told the community that the water was safe to drink. And, time passed. In a deadly irony, Tom Mernin also succumbed to leukemia prior to his 50th birthday. At the time I didn't realize that the Toomeys lived next door to Tom Mernin. The Toomey's story is one of the most tragic in east Woburn. As mentioned above Patrick died in '79 of leukemia from exposure to the drinking water. Soon after,Toomey's oldest son Michael was struck and killed by a car while on Wood Street. Neighbors said he was gathering up wild flowers for his mother. Hearts were broken all over the neighborhood. Years later I heard that all the Toomey children had many kinds of skin afflictions from the water. The quality of water became so obviously bad that my parents and others had decided to move onto bottled water--rather inconvenient in the mid-70s to locate. However, they continued to shower with it not realizing the risk from both inhalation and dermal exposure. Suffice it to say that my Woburn experience played a large part in shaping my interest to help in the struggle to protect the public's health. My feeling is that we are suffering the all-embracing demands and short-sighted conveniences of post modern industrial society. The toxins are all around us and have been for many, many years. As Gary Cohen wrote recently ...There are hundreds of Woburns in the United States,
[CTRL] Civil Action #2
-Original Message-From: Gary Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 5:55 AMSubject: ALL: Organizing Around Civil Action filmDear ALL,I am forwarding information about ideas and opportunities for organizingaround the film, Civil Action, which opens during Christmas in selecttheaters and then in early January nationwide. I am sure Health Care WithoutHarm activists can use this film to highlight the problems of toxic chemicalexposures in their communities. It should be noted that in the mediamaterials developed by Environmental Media Services for the film, itspecifically states that your local hospital may be a source of toxicexposure. If groups have plans to use this film, it would be worth hearingabout them on the list serve so that other folks can take advantage of goodideas for organizing.Thanks for your attention to this opportunity. I highly recommend the book.-A Civil Action opens nationwide on January 8. This e-mail providesinformation for environmental groups and activists on the film and how touse the film as a media centerpiece for environmental awareness. Thise-mail is in three parts:Part 1 - Fact Sheet on the filmPart 2 -- Media Tips for Environmental Groups and ActivistsPart 3 -- A Sample Media Advisory / Pitch LetterPlease feel free to pass this e-mail on to any environmental group whocould make good use of this material. We have created this so you can cutand paste Part 3 and adapt it to your needs.We have also ATTACHED a version of this as a Word 6.0 / 95 file.Part 1 -- CIVIL ACTIVEA Civil Action Starring John TravoltaProvides Centerpiece for Environmental AwarenessFact Sheet for Environment Groups and Activists On December 25th, Disney's Touchstone Pictures will premier the film ACivil Action in New York and Los Angeles. On January 8, the film will openin theaters across the country. The film is based on the book by JonathanHarr, which has been on the New York Times' best-seller list for over twoyears. Starring John Travolta and Robert Duvall, A Civil Action tells thegripping true story of an epic courtroom showdown. Two large corporationsstood accused of contaminating the water supply of Woburn, Massachusettscausing the death of some of its children. John Travolta plays the roleofJan Schlichtmann, the maverick attorney who risked everything to fight forthe Woburn children and their families. On January 6, there will be a celebrity premier in Boston. The nextmorning, the environmental community will host a Town Meeting with JanSchlichtmann and community leaders, scientists and physicians. Films like The China Syndrome and Philadelphia have jumped from theentertainment page to the front page. A Civil Action, with its wrenchingtrue story and timely theme, is poised to do the same. Movie studios,however, focus on celebrity public relations and often shy away fromcontroversy. With this in mind, some of us concerned about the environmentand public health have created a media education campaign, Civil Active,toplace the film in a larger social context. Civil Active is a project of Environmental Media Services and is anindependent educational effort and is not in any way associated with theWalt Disney Company, Random House, or the filmmakers. Media Opportunity - We want to encourage environmental groups everywhereto use the film as a centerpiece and media opportunity to generateawareness and discussion. We urge groups to pitch stories on theenvironment and place their spokespeople on local talk radio andtelevisionnews shows and newspapers. We suggest you secure media coverage between January 4 and January 15(the film opens in most cities on Friday, January 8). Even if many ofyourlocal outlets have done environmental stories in the past, the filmcreatesa new excuse to focus on important issues. Make good use of this mediawindow. Please remember that you don't need cooperation from the moviestudio or the celebrities. If the film is a hit, the media window maystayopen for many weeks after opening. For more background information on Civil Active, check out our website -www.civilactive.com (up and running mid-December). Disney has their ownsite at www.civilaction.com. And W.R. Grace has one atwww.civil-action.com. On the Civil Active site, you will find background materials that canhelp you talk to the media about the film and the bigger issues ofenvironmental pollution.PART 2 - A CIVIL ACTION -- MEDIA TIPSFor Environmental Groups and ActivistsPrepared by Environmental Media ServicesMedia coverage of environmental issues surrounding the Disney film, ACivil Action, starring John Travolta and Robert Duvall, will not comefromthe film studio's efforts but from our own. Here are some tips we hopewill be helpful:1. A Civil Action opens in theaters nationwide on January 8, 19992. Big Hollywood films like A Civil Action create new
[CTRL] Civil Action #3 of 3
-Original Message-From: Gary Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 1:20 PMSubject: ALL: op ed article for Civil Action movieDear Health Care Without Harm campaigners,below please find an op ed pice I write to accompany organizing around thefilm Civil Action. Feel free to use this piece however you wish and addyourname as a co-author if that helps out with local press. Gary-The Need for Civic ActionMany years have passed since the the wells of families in Woburn,Massachusetts were contaminated.At one level, the tragedy stands as a singular event in the history of thenation. In an average middle class town, seven children died from leukemiadue to toxic chemicals in their drinking water. Lives were forever lost. Acommunity was forever scarred. This story has been powerfully captured inthe book Civil Action by Jonathan Harr and has now been turned into amajor Hollywood movie.But, in another way, Woburn has become a familiar script. It goessomething like this: Multi-billion dollar company poisons community;people get sick and die; the company denies the problem as long aspossible, hoping to use its money to outlast desperate families seekingjustice from the violence perpetrated against them. When it seems thecompany may lose in court, it settles privately for a sum in exchange for awaiver on any future liability.This script has been repeated over the years - Love Canal, Bhopal,Jacksonville, DES daughters. The names of the companies are different, theoutcomes are similar. Children's lives are just the cost of doing business.The world goes on. The companies gear up their public relations machinesto recreate an image in which they bring good things to life. Eventuallythe horror fades and is replaced by other images from our daily diet ofhorrors from other places.But what gets lost in the public's consciousness is the ubiquity of thechemical assault in communities across the country. There are hundreds ofWoburns in the United States, where communities living next to chemicalcompanies, paper mills, computer manufacturers, military bases, medicalwaste incinerators and toxic dumps suffer an array of health problemsrelated to their toxics exposures. Worse still, when residents seek somekindof justice from these exposures, they are stymied by a regulatory system sotragically compromised that it regularly protects the rights of companiestopollute rather than defending the public's health. Contrary to theRepublican Party's mantra on this subject, the problem is not too muchgovernment, but too much government serving the needs of industry.The public health crisis extends well beyond individual communities andtheir polluting corporate neighbors. The reality is that there is no placeto goto escape this toxics nightmare. Here are some facts to highlight theproblem:* There are fish consumption bans in 39 states due to mercurycontamination, while the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency warned inits latest report to Congress that 1.6 million children and women are atriskfrom mercury poisoning due to their modest fish consumption.* There are such high levels of dioxin in mother's milk that newborns get80 times their lifetime safe dose of dioxin during their first six monthsoflife. In June, 1998, Consumer Reports published test results that showedallthe major baby food brands had alarming levels of dioxin in popularly soldmeat-based products. Dioxin is a probable carcinogen and is known todisrupt the hormonal system of the growing child.* According to a National Academy of Sciences report, there are 70pesticides allowed in commercial foods that cause cancer in animals, while20 others are considered probable human carcinogens. Other allowablepesticides are neurotoxic, affect normal immunological function or impacton healthy reproduction.Children are the most vulnerable population to this toxic assault sincetheirrapidly developing systems are more sensitive to these chemicals. It is nowonder that cancer now kills more children under fourteen than any otherdisease.The frightening fact is that we all live in Woburn. As a society, we areconducting an uncontrolled chemical experiment on our children and futuregenerations. While the chemical industry continues to deny its products arepoisoning us, it is no longer possible for a child to be born in thiscountrywithout a host of toxic chemicals in his/her body. This is a profoundviolation of basic human rights.We don't need more Woburns to convince us we have a problem with toxicchemicals and a regulatory and justice system that offers neither effectiveregulation nor justice. We just need the political will to directlychallengethe companies that are poisoning us and force them to get their chemicalsout of our water, our air, our food, our consumer
Re: [CTRL] New Book Probes Princess Diana Death
-Caveat Lector- Hello Brian- I suppose you already heard the "media-hype" news on national t.v. news, eleven o'clock report monday 1/11/99 that there were no murder conspiracies for Diana's death !! They pin the whole thing on the driver who was high on grugs and alcohol at the time of the crash. Oh well, will we ever put this one to rest I wonder. -- From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] New Book Probes Princess Diana Death Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 8:43 PM -Caveat Lector- NEW BOOK PROBES PRINCESS DIANA DEATH (CNNS, 01/11/99) -- "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) has authored a soon-to-be published book which probes the circumstances surrounding the death of Princess Diana in August 1997. The book, tentatively titled, "Diana, Queen of Heaven," is apparently the first to question whether the death of Lady Diana was truly a car accident. Information in the book strongly suggests that Lady Diana was murdered, as the result of a conspiracy against her. "Ru Mills" is well known to readers of Conspiracy Nation News Service and has an impressive background. Her deep-cover sources routinely provide her with inside information which has often proven to be prescient. Besides questioning whether Diana's death was really an "accident," Mills elaborates on how the revered image of the princess may be used to promote a "New World Religion." In a memo sent to CNNS, she discusses how holographic technology could be used to help foster a religious mania. Quoting from a political newsletter, Mills buttresses her argument: The 'Blue Beam' project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old; as major an event as that which took place 2000 years ago (the birth of Jesus, son of God). In principle, 'Blue Beam' will make use of the sky as a movie screen as spaced based laser generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet, in every language, in every dialect according to region. The 'Blue Beam' project deals with the religious aspect of the New World Order and is a large scale seduction. With computer animation and sound effects appearing to come from the depths of space, astonished followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messiah in spectacularly convincing life like realness. (Washington Report A monthly Washington Political Newsletter, February 1995, Volume 16) With "Millenium Madness" on the rise, secret forces pushing for a "New World Order" could well have an image of "Diana, Queen of Heaven," set to be "broadcast" on the biggest movie screen ever: the wide open sky. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a
Re: [CTRL] Impeachment and Clinton
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-10 09:12:24 EST, you write: On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To some it will seem a radical shift but I have changed my view on this whole issue, at least to a certain extent. Let me explain. I believe that there is sufficient evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Clinton to have him impeached solely on the charges against him. There certainly is a LOT more behind the scenes that he is definitely guilty of (treason, and treachery against the US which he swore to uphold, being the most damaging). I am now convinced however that this whole issue should have been dropped before it began because I don't like the puritanical emphasis that has already been the byproduct of the whole mess. Then, Teo, you are allowing them to win... Not only do you let them get away with the 'wrongdoing' you admit you believe was done, you let them get away with the blatant blackmail they are conducting... The answer is to NOT just drop it all...do you really think they will stop the 'wrongdoing' if the watchdogs go aways? I'm also surprised by your " this whole issue should have been dropped before it began" sentiments. Before Bill was impeached everyone was saying he would never be impeached. Now they're saying he won't be removed from office because they don't have the votes. If other evidence can be introduced from testimony via witnesses vis a vis the major acts of treason associated with Clinton's Presidency then he may be removed, and ironically, for the right reasons. Let's not forget that along with his litany of major and minor crimes I'm convinced he knew about the OKC bombing before-hand and used the murder of 168 people, devastating the lives of hundreds more, to vilify "militia's", "patriot's", talk radio and anybody else who was critical of his Presidency; the main objective was of course to push "The Anti-Terrorism Bill" which had stalled in Congress. The Bill gave unprecedented powers to the President and law enforcement. There is no crime, no principle, no moral, no life that he won't sacrifice in order to further the agenda's of the people who put him there. That is why he has to go. Gavin. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Price We Pay: The 10 Worst Corporations of 1998
What did we learn in 1998? Microsoft Chairman and CEO Bill Gates' net wealth -- $51 billion -- is greater than the combined net worth of the poorest 40 percent of Americans (106 million people). Hundreds of hospitals are "dumping" patients who can't afford to pay. The feds are criminally prosecuting big tobacco companies for smuggling cigarettes into Canada. (Never mind addicting young kids to smoke and thus condemning them to a certain, albeit, slow, death -- can't criminally prosecute them for that.) There's a bull market in stock fraud. Prescription drugs may cause 100,000 deaths a year. Two Fox-TV reporters in Florida are fired for trying to report on adverse health effects associated with genetically engineered foods. The U.S. Department of Agriculture proposes that genetically engineered foods be labelled "organic." Coal companies continue to cheat on air quality tests as hundreds of coal miners continue to die each year from black lung disease. The North American Securities Administrators Association estimates that Americans lose about $1 million a hour to securities fraud. Robert Reich says that megamergers threaten democracy. Corporate crime explodes, but the academic study of corporate crime vanishes. Three hundred trade unionists around the world were killed in 1997 for defending their rights. Corporate firms lobbying to cripple the Superfund law outnumber environmental groups seeking to defend it by 30 to one. Down on Nike? Chinese political prisoners allegedly make Adidas products. Blue Cross Blue Shield Illinois is a corporate criminal. Chemical companies are testing pesticides on human beings. Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, questions whether the Pentagon's financial controls have suffered a "complete and utter breakdown." Environmental crimes prosecution are down sharply under Clinton/Gore. Bush/Quayle had a better record. Bell Atlantic buys Maurice Sendak's Where the Wild Things Are illustrations to sell telephone products. Companies that have workers die on the job continue to be met with fines. Criminal prosecutions still rare. This is the price we pay for living in Corporate America. Wealth disparity, megamergers and the resulting consolidation of corporate power, commercialism run amok, rampant corporate crime, death without justice, pollution, cancer and an unrelenting attack on democracy. The 1998 market run-up might make plugged-in America feel good about itself, but big business is eating out the democratic foundation of the country, and when the empty shell crumbles, what kind of chaos might we anticipate? If you have justice on your mind, herewith for the tenth consecutive year is Multinational Monitor's effort to pinpoint those responsible. It is, admittedly, a short list -- the Ten Worst Corporations of 1998. But it is a representative list, and as the damage becomes more apparent, as the outrage at, and contempt for, our fearless leaders grows, surely the list, too, will grow. The Ten Worst Corporations of 1998 are: * Chevron, for continuing to do business with a brutal dictatorship in Nigeria and for alleged complicity in the killing of civilian protesters. * Coca-Cola, for hooking America's kids on sugar and soda water. Today, teenage boys and girls drink twice as much soda pop as milk, whereas 20 years ago they drank nearly twice as much milk as soda. * General Motors, for becoming an integral part of the Nazi war machine, and then years later, when documented proof emerges, denying it. * Loral and its chief executive Bernard Schwartz, for dumping $2.2 million into Clinton/Gore and Democratic Party coffers. The Clinton administration responded by approving a human rights waiver to clear the way for technology transfers to China. * Mobil, for supporting the Indonesian military in crushing an indigenous uprising in Aceh province and allegedly allowing the military to use company machinery to dig mass graves. * Monsanto, for introducing genetically engineered foods into the foodstream without adequate safety testing and without labeling, thus exposing consumers to unknown risks. * Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, for pleading guilty to felony crimes for dumping oil in the Atlantic Ocean and then lying to the Coast Guard about it. * Unocal, for engaging in numerous acts of pollution and law violations, to such a degree that citizens in California petitioned the state's attorney general to revoke the company's charter. * Wal-Mart, for crushing small town America, for paying low, low wages (a huge percentage of Wal-Mart workers are eligible for food stamps), for using Asian child labor and for homogenizing the population; and last, but not least, * Warner-Lambert, for marketing a hazardous diabetes drug, Rezulin, which has been linked to at least 33 deaths due to liver injuries. As the millennium approaches, keep your eyes open for nasty corporate predators in your neck of the woods. Keep a list. Check it twice. Then send along your
Re: [CTRL] Eye For An Eye?
-Caveat Lector- I feel people should pay for their crimes. And I feel an eye for an eye justice would be warrantted in some situations. However, more importantly I feel that the judicial system should be more careful in their courtrooms. I, at this very moment, am in the middle of a court-battle of which I did nothing wrong, however if convicted I could spend the next 3 years of my life in prison. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bar-coded IDs for students, teachers
-Caveat Lector- I agree with the teacher. Not really on religous background, I see it as more of a move to faceless nameless society. Where personalities are not important and submission is. That's my opinion I could be wrong. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ft. Worth Star-Telegram: A jury's duty
-Caveat Lector- Lyn McCloskey wrote: Brandborg's battle for privacy sparked one of four proposals that the Lone Star Fully Informed Jury Association, a Texas juror rights group, plans to take to the Legislature this year. Group members espouse jury nullification, the belief that jurors should decide cases based on their moral convictions instead of the law. snip Another proposal would prevent prosecutors from excusing potential jurors because they disagree with a law relevant to a case, Glass said. The group's agenda -- legislative and otherwise -- has come under widespread criticism, particularly from prosecutors and judges. The idea of forbidding prosecutors from questioning jurors on certain issues would be "disastrous," said Roger Jones, chief of the felony trial division in the Denton County district attorney's office. "You have to have people on a jury that support the law that is in question in that trial. Otherwise, you are saying a jury is legislating instead of applying the law," Jones said. But what has sparked the most dissent is the group's assertion that jurors should vote with their conscience instead of the law and the evidence. For example, group members argue that a juror who believes that assisted suicide is morally correct should feel free to acquit Dr. Jack Kevorkian. Interestingly, it seems that Clinton's strategy is basically jury nullification. There seems to be something like an admission that he broke the law among Democratic Senators, but an arguement similar to jury nullification that since the economy is doing well and everything else is alright and its all about sex anyway, we can just let it pass. It would be interesting if the Jury nullification people would use the impeachment as a means of spreading their ideas. Perhaps they could argue in favor of the senate nullifying if they wanted just as all juries can. best wishes, Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Contrails Mystify, Sicken Americans - 2
-Caveat Lector- IMPORTANT - IMPORTANT - IMPORTANT The article "Lines in the sky or lungs " mentions two fine patriots and films that further show these contrails and clouds.. Last week some other fine Patriots from Pennsylvania, Fred Sandra Ehrlich were kind enough to send me 2 videos of this contrail phenomena. They are titled The Spraying of America 1 and 2. The first deals with spraying (contrails) in San Diego, California in 95 96 and the second is more recent in PA Maryland. For copies of these videos their fax # is (717) 235-8762 and the great part is: they only charge a nominal fee to cover cost. I will be ordering additional material from their vast library. I thank these fine Patriots for what they are doing to get the word out! The videos are part of the library mentioned in an earlier post. The following list needs updating, but is an example of the various topics available, and as was stated, the fee for them is VERY NOMINAL. If you don't have a fax, just send me an e-mail and just say " VIDEOS - YES - INTERESTED ". I will e-mail you back with further info. Suppressed Videos Revised 11/30/98 1. American perspective-- Jeff Baker 2. Day 51 (Waco)--UTV 3. Waco/Oklahoma City Connection--Brubaker, GNBN 4. Overview of our world and one dozen candles-- J. McManus/J.Birch 5. Death of Vince Foster--Citizens for Honest Government 6. Clinton Chronicles--Citizens for Honest Government 7. Waco, The Big Lie, part one-Linda Thompson 8. Waco, The Big Lie, part two-Linda Thompson 9.Helicopter attack (black halo fire bombs Dallas home whose home heads up impeachment movement which has 12 million signatures ) 10. America under siege--Linda Thompson 11. The Panama Deception--Empowerment 12. Home video of Branch Davideans 13. Freemasonry/from darkness to light--Jeremiah films 14. Gay agenda in public education- Important!!! see tape # 205 (sexually explicit material) 15. Satin is idolatry--John Weaver 16. Slave mentality--John Weaver 17. Watchman--John Lewis 18. Christian and Civil law--John Weaver and Jim Grove 19. Violence in rock music--Benoit 20. Satanism in rock music--Benoit 21. Aids and what you havent been told--Jeremiah films 22. Hard truth ( explicit material ) 9 minute abortion video 23. Gay agenda exposed ( sexually explicit material )important!!!-see tape # 205 24. Concentration camps in America--Texe Marrs 25. Fascist terror stalking America--Texe Marrs 26. Treaty from hell--Texe Marrs 27. The bomb in Oklahoma--Star investigative reports 28. Reichstag: an American holocaust, pretext for tyranny 29. Americas secret destiny--Ralph Epperson 30. U.S.S. Liberty survivors, our story--Silgo productions 31. Atrocities at Ruby Ridge-R. Weaver story--KPOC-TV 32. L. A. Lawman, fully informed jury--Proclaim liberty Min. 33. Mena connection(Arkansas drug traffic)--for the people 34. Death and taxes(Gordon Kahl)--Country people productions 35. The two Kennedys European prod. ( banned 76-92 in U.S.) 36. Seven days in May(Hollywood production asking when is a traitor not a traitor) 37. Taking back our country--Gunderson/Koernke (Oklahoma City bombing ) 38. Oklahoma City, 6 pack ( the bombing, a closer look )--for the people 39. Breaking the law in the name of the law--Proclaim liberty Min. 40. The mark of the new world--Mark V prod. 41. Americas back to God--Liberty Alliance, Jerry Falwell 42. Janet - Reno--Jack Thompson at unregistered church convention 43. Waco incident--KPOC-TV 44. Ruby creek massacre 45. The pestilence ( aids ) Global 2000 46. Anguish in Oklahoma(actual live feeds recorded off CNN--A.Sgarlatte production ( paperwork shows actual seismograph surface readings of 2 blasts ) 47. Waco: Triumph or treason--Jeff Baker 48. Government gone mad--Jeff Baker 49. The Crash: The coming economic crash--Jeremiah films 50. Is Caesar sovereign over church? 51. C-span coverage of senate subcommittee on militia 52. Amerika the movie ( eleven hours in length ) 53. War powers act ( see also # 186 ) 54. The secrets of the federal reserve 55. The new world order/ big business-big banking-big government 56. A nation betrayed-lets take America back--Bo Gritz 57. Challenging the holocaust museum 58. Out based education debate- Elizabeth Town College 59. Murder by injection 60. Questions and answers--Linda Thompson on Waco 61. NAFTA/ treaty or treason? 62. Satans new age plan for a new world order 63. The birth of a nation ( made in 1915 ) 64. GATT/ friend or foe? 65. Keys to good government and foundation of American government 66. The house of Rothchild 67. Big sister is Hillary Hellcats 68. The new money system-global 2000 69. On masters of America 70. The Gulf war overview 71. Clinton-the next four years 72. Mysterious monuments to the beast 73. The spirit of American revolution 74. Education and the founding fathers 75. A call to arms 76. Alien encounters?-UFO phenomenon 77. Alien autopsy?(Roswell, New Mexico ) 78. Hoaglands
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- I tuned in to C-Span at 10 pm CST. C-Span gave a brief statement that, since Flynt's announcement may have been "defamatory," they were withholding broadcast for the time being. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Edward Britton wrote: -Caveat Lector- All: According to WCNN, Atlanta, Whitehouse lap dog, Larry Flynt, will be giving an exclusive press conference on C-SPAN tonight at 8:00 PM Pacific Time. Check your local guides to be sure of the times. According to the report, Flynt will be dropping several bombshells concerning the sexual habits of multiple members of the Republican leadership. Should be interesting :-) Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bob: I WAS RAPED ABOARD A FLYING SAUCER
-Caveat Lector- I was sodomized with the broken end of a Nehi bottle by a pair of Zeta Reticulans who dressed like Olivia Newton John at the end of "Grease". This incident ocurred in tandem with my horrifying experience of being run over repeatedly by a unicycle ridden by Spiro Agnew. -- From: Edward Britton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 7:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Bob: I WAS RAPED ABOARD A FLYING SAUCER -Caveat Lector- Bob: Why, it was *redheads* who abducted me...beamed me up in my pajamas...subjected me to...no, no, I can't go on, it's too painful...sigh Non-abductees simply cannot understand the nature of the experience... CHICKEN! :-) :-) Come on, tell us about "the probe." Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Book Probes Princess Diana Death
-Caveat Lector- Look, if they've got such a big movie screen, do you think we can talk them into showing the "Star Wars" prequel on it? -- From: Brian Redman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] New Book Probes Princess Diana Death -Caveat Lector- NEW BOOK PROBES PRINCESS DIANA DEATH (CNNS, 01/11/99) -- "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) has authored a soon-to-be published book which probes the circumstances surrounding the death of Princess Diana in August 1997. The book, tentatively titled, "Diana, Queen of Heaven," is apparently the first to question whether the death of Lady Diana was truly a car accident. Information in the book strongly suggests that Lady Diana was murdered, as the result of a conspiracy against her. "Ru Mills" is well known to readers of Conspiracy Nation News Service and has an impressive background. Her deep-cover sources routinely provide her with inside information which has often proven to be prescient. Besides questioning whether Diana's death was really an "accident," Mills elaborates on how the revered image of the princess may be used to promote a "New World Religion." In a memo sent to CNNS, she discusses how holographic technology could be used to help foster a religious mania. Quoting from a political newsletter, Mills buttresses her argument: The 'Blue Beam' project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old; as major an event as that which took place 2000 years ago (the birth of Jesus, son of God). In principle, 'Blue Beam' will make use of the sky as a movie screen as spaced based laser generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet, in every language, in every dialect according to region. The 'Blue Beam' project deals with the religious aspect of the New World Order and is a large scale seduction. With computer animation and sound effects appearing to come from the depths of space, astonished followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messiah in spectacularly convincing life like realness. (Washington Report A monthly Washington Political Newsletter, February 1995, Volume 16) With "Millenium Madness" on the rise, secret forces pushing for a "New World Order" could well have an image of "Diana, Queen of Heaven," set to be "broadcast" on the biggest movie screen ever: the wide open sky. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are
[CTRL] Bigfoot Controversy Erupts
-Caveat Lector- From USA Today 01/10/99- Updated 05:48 PM ET The Nation's Homepage Bigfoot film sets enthusiasts at odds BOTHELL, Wash. - In the hearts and minds of true believers, Bigfoot's existence has long been enshrined in a single minute of jerky, grainy footage of a startled sasquatch retreating into the upper California woods. But two enthusiasts of the legendary being are alleging four magnified frames of the 16 mm footage show tracings of a bell-shaped fastener at Bigfoot's waist. They say the creature in the so-called Patterson-Gimlin Film can finally be dismissed as a man in a monkey suit. ''It was a hoax,'' said Cliff Crook, a longtime Bigfoot tracker who devotes rooms to sasquatch memorabilia in this suburb north of Seattle. ''How can an artificial, manmade object end up on a Bigfoot?'' The film, purportedly showing a female Bigfoot fleeing a streambed, was taken by Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin on Oct. 20, 1967. It has largely withstood independent scrutiny and, for many steeped in the lore of the man-beast, has become bedrock evidence of its very existence. ''There's no way of really detracting from it,'' said Ray Crowe, president of the Western Bigfoot Society in Portland, Ore. The image captured in the footage ''has a fluid motion. It's a wild creature of nature.'' The film is important because many Bigfoot believers compare all plaster casts of telltale footprints against those made by Patterson the day he purportedly filmed the creature slinking across a sandbar in the Six Rivers National Forest. Discredit the footage, experts agree, and the gold standard for Bigfoot tracks will be washed away. Crook bases his assertion on computer enhancements performed by Chris Murphy, a Bigfoot buff from Vancouver, British Columbia, who maintains he discovered an aberration in the footage in 1995 while helping his son Daniel prepare a class project. Murphy declined to be interviewed, instead supplying a written narrative detailing his discovery. According to that account, the Murphys used a color photocopier to duplicate a frame of the Patterson film. Zooming in again and again, Chris Murphy became suspicious. To him, something geometric - vaguely the shape of a bottle opener - seemed to take shape at Bigfoot's waist. Murphy maintains that four sequential computer-scanned frames of the film show the object in different positions, as if it were swinging. He theorizes something is cinching the sasquatch costume in place. Murphy made a clay model of the object and in October gave that and the enlargements to Crook, a charter-bus driver transfixed by sasquatch stories since 1957. That's the year he made a camping trip with teen-age friends on Washington's Olympic Peninsula that ended with telltale signs of a sasquatch encounter: a rustling of brush, a throaty growl and an ever-worsening hallmark musk. Decades later, at 58, spare rooms in his home are dubbed ''Bigfoot Central,'' stuffed with photos, plaster casts and maps dotted with push-pins that chart sasquatch sightings. Now his hoax assertion is giving rise to a howl that would make a Bigfoot proud. Longtime enthusiasts smell a deserter. One recent e-mail was typical of the incredulity Crook's allegation of a costume fastener is up against. ''Cliff, Cliff, Cliff,'' it scolded. ''That's matted feces.'' ''There are two witnesses (and) there are footprints,'' said Rene Dahinden, a Richmond, British Columbia, researcher who shares the film's copyright. ''We've never had anything like it previously, and anything like it since.'' Dahinden, 68, discounts Murphy as an amateur. ''He wasn't involved in this until 1993,'' Dahinden said. ''He couldn't spell the name 'sasquatch' before that.'' Grover Krantz, a Washington State University anthropology professor and Bigfoot expert, also believes firmly in the old footage. ''I fully accept the Patterson film,'' Krantz said. ''If there was a fastener, it could not be seen in an enlargement. The film grain is such that it cannot hold an image of something that small.'' The truth of the Patterson-Gimlin film remains as elusive as Bigfoot itself. Enthusiasts such as Krantz and Crowe see the film as a building block for their faith. And the faiths of Crook and Murphy endure in spite of it. Crook knows that, in dissent, he and Murphy are ''far outnumbered.'' ''There's a few broken friendships because of this,'' Crook said. ''I just figured, 'This is a search for the truth. When it becomes something different, that's when it should stop.''' Maybe a Bigfoot will one day view the film, Crook figures, and offer its own disapproving grunt. ''There's just too much evidence that these creatures do inhabit certain areas out there,'' Crook said, ever
Re: [CTRL] Impeachment and Clinton
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 9:50:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm also surprised by your " this whole issue should have been dropped before it began" sentiments. Before Bill was impeached everyone was saying he would never be impeached. Now they're saying he won't be removed from office because they don't have the votes. If other evidence can be introduced from testimony via witnesses vis a vis the major acts of treason associated with Clinton's Presidency then he may be removed, and ironically, for the right reasons. Let's not forget that along with his litany of major and minor crimes I'm convinced he knew about the OKC bombing before-hand and used the murder of 168 people, devastating the lives of hundreds more, to vilify "militia's", "patriot's", talk radio and anybody else who was critical of his Presidency; the main objective was of course to push "The Anti-Terrorism Bill" which had stalled in Congress. The Bill gave unprecedented powers to the President and law enforcement. There is no crime, no principle, no moral, no life that he won't sacrifice in order to further the agenda's of the people who put him there. That is why he has to go. Gavin. Gavin, for all the peripheral reasons that you mention I am all for carrying this through, it is just disheartening to see it turn into a big cover-up to protect others in the government. It is my hope that more will come out and many more will go down but it is not likely. My concern is that this is turning into a morality issue, one in which the government will decide what moral position is "acceptable" and what one is not, which is EXACTLY where we stand now (even though those of us in the know, so to speak, know that it has nothing to do with the real issues in this whole debate). The government intrudes in my life enough, WAY too much in fact, right now and I don't want to give them any more opportunities to do so. That is my concern. I am frustrated that the real issues were not brought up immediately and that be the focus of this investigation. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bigfoot Controversy Erupts
-Caveat Lector- Most literature on the Sasquatch does not bank on the film. The article states that if this film is shown to be a hoax then the thousands of plaster molds of footprints are then invaldated. This is far from logic. It would seem that the author is capable of a modicum of reason, yet sites 'experts' who are not. Bologna. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Secrets Of The Clipper Chip
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990112_xcsof_the_secret.shtml In 1993, Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell and Bernard Nussbaum were told about the CLIPPER computer chip. CLIPPER was a secret encryption project intended to monitor all U.S. secure computer communications. The chip was to be mandated by Federal law to be installed in all U.S.-manufactured computers much like the "VEE" chip is for U.S.-made TVs. According to Congressional investigators, Webster Hubbell and Vince Foster were given access to highly classified "encryption" chip designs. Their access included secure encryption algorithms and details on how the National Security Agency (NSA) secretly built the hidden "exploitable" (back door) features inside the CLIPPER chip. In July 1993, the death of Vince Foster came as a major blow to the Clinton administration. Yet, the alleged affair between Foster and First Lady Hillary Clinton over-shadowed the discovery of classified materials in Foster's White House office. After Foster's death, the Clinton White House lawyer Bernard Nussbaum managed to clean out Foster's files while law enforcement officials were kept waiting outside. According to Foster's secretary, Nussbaum removed two binders, marked TOP SECRET, from Foster's office from the National Security Agency. The real history behind the Clinton selection of Foster and Hubbell for a secret computer chip project dates back to the 1980s and leads to William Cravens, former head of an Arkansas- based computer company called Systematics. William Cravens is an old Clinton friend. William Cravens first met the Clintons in the mid-1980s when he was President of Worthen Bank. Mrs. Clinton, along with Rose Law partners Vince Foster, and Webster Hubbell, worked with Cravens on Worthen's legal affairs. It was during the early Clinton years that Cravens also met James Riady, son of Indonesian billionaire Moctar Riady and the owner of the massive LIPPO group. The Riadys jointly purchased the Worthen bank with Arkansas billionaire Jackson Stephens. Moctar's son, James Riady, ran the bank and the employer of William Cravens. In the early 1990s, Cravens left Worthen bank and took the CEO spot at Systematics, an Arkansas-based computer security company owned by Jackson Stephens. Once at Systematics, Cravens selected the Rose Office Law firm to perform some special legal work. One such legal contract involved a top secret intelligence agency, the NSA, and Systematics. Interestingly, during 1993, Cravens would deny that any such work took place and even threatened to sue anyone who dared suggest that the late Vince Foster or First Lady Clinton worked on classified contracts for Systematics. In 1995, Washington Weekly, forced the Clinton administration to admit there was such a contract. The NSA, in response to a Washington Weekly Freedom of Information (FOIA) request, admitted that Systematics had a secret contract involving the construction of a Secured Compartmentalized Information Facility (SCIF) at an Army base in Georgia. It was also reported that Mrs. Clinton hired Systematics to secure computer records from the Rose Office accounting systems, including data on the now infamous Whitewater land deals and the Riady holdings in the Worthen bank. After Bill Clinton was elected in 1993, Cravens left Systematics and obtained a new job at the Arkansas-based ENTERGY Group, headed by Edwin Lupeburger. According to Federal Election Commission (FEC) records, Cravens donated money to a Democratic Senatorial candidate in May 1996, listing his employer as "ENTERGY CORP". Cravens, however, had not really left the Clinton/Lippo/China relationship. In 1994, Ron Brown led a delegation of U.S. businesses to China. Among the businesses allowed to fly with the Commerce Secretary was ENTERGY Corp., a U.S.-based utility company that did business in Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Texas. Entergy CEO, Edwin Lupberger, traveled to China with Brown and later received a personal letter congratulating Entergy for their success in China. Entergy signed a $2 billion dollar deal with the North China Power Group to build a 1200 megawatt power plant in Datong China. Brown provided U.S. financial backing for the deal. The Entergy deal was worth quite a bit to the Lippo Group. In fact, the Red Chinese North China Power Group renamed the project the "LIPPO Entergy Datong Power Plant", giving top billing to the largest investor and financier. According to an interoffice memorandum written by J. "Chip" Brown, head of the Hong Kong office for Entergy Corp., Entergy officials met Jude Kearney, Clinton's Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce in Washington. Chip Brown sought a spot for Entergy's chief executive on the August 1994 trade trip to China. According to Brown's memo, Kearney "indicated competitive nature of being selected to ride on the plane with the Secretary. Also indicated that politics of the situation were important and he as a
[CTRL] Fwd: [sgra] SGRA NEWSLETTER 1/12/99
The Smoking Gun Research Agency E-Newsletter Topics: [1] Increasing Taos Hum Reports [2] FEMA Follow Up Article [3] Congress Package [4] What's Going On Here? * 1. Increasing Taos Hum Reports In the past week we at the SGRA have received over 7 reports from hearers of the Taos Hum. The Taos Hum is a reported low frequency hum which is heard around the world by many people (called the Taos Hum for it's first reported place, Taos, New Mexico). Many people believed that the hum from Taos was due to an underground base in the area because the hum appears more mechanical then natural. But we now know that the hum cannot be coming from an underground base because it is heard all over the world. So what is it's origin? Well, we still don't know that. We're looking at two main suspects though. Right now the Navy's HAARP (High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project) and the Navy's E.L.F (Extremely Low Frequency) transmitters are at the top of the list. We hope to be able to bring you more information on this story as we get it. ((( For Further Information See: "HAARP Or Tesla Deathray?" SGRA Publication 1998 "Taos Hum Reports Sheet"SGRA Publication 1998 The HAARP PageWebsite http://server5550.itd.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/haarpIndex. html The Taos Hum Homepage Website http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/hum/hum1.html 2. FEMA Follow Up Article In the past few weeks I have been following stories and publishing articles related to FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency being the lead of a secret government planing on taking control of the United States come the Year 2000. I have been asked by many to provide sources as to where I have gotten my information, and although I cannot, and will not release all of my sources I intend to give you enough that you will know that what I am saying is not mearly paranoia or a plot against our government. As I have said I feel that most of our government does not know about FEMA's plans, or plans for the New World Order. They have either been kept in the dark, or like most refuse to accept the possibilities that something like this could happen by our government. We need to understand that our government has done many things against the United States people without our knowing. From FBI phone taps to FEMA, government agencies have long sense done things behind our backs. And the fact that officials such as Congress are not aware of these things is simply "Plausible Deniability." The powers given to FEMA were passed through a Presidential Executive Order, which whether Constitutional or not becomes law simply by it's publication in the Federal Registry. In this way Congress is bypassed completely so that they may indeed not know what is going on. Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency and gave it it's various powers. FEMA had one concept when it was created, to assure the survivability of the United States government in the event of a nuclear on this nation. It was also provided with the task of being the federal coordinating body in times of domestic disaster such as earthquakes, rioting, ext. It's powers grow under the leadership of people like Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord, the people behind the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of America's savings and loan institutions. FEMA has even been given control of the State Defense Forces, a ragtag, often considered neo-Nazi civilian army. Though it may be the most powerful entity in the United States government few people knew about it until just recently. However FEMA is controlling of more than just disasters. FEMA has crept into our personal lives each day. Even mortgage papers contain FEMA's name in small print. FEMA was deeply involved in the Los Angeles riots and the 1989 earthquakes. Much of the Black Helicopter activity in the United States is flown by FEMA personnel. But most of FEMA's black budget doesn't go to helping the United States. FEMA's budget falls into the category of "black" projects. Those are things like Lockheed Martin Skunk Works, Area51, and other "nonexistent" projects. What is known is that FEMA only spent about 6% of it's budget on national emergencies. The bulk of their funding has been used to create secret underground facilities around the United States which exact purpose is unknown. One of these facilities is called Mount Weather, and rests in the small town of Bluemont, Virginia just 46 miles from Washington, DC Other FEMA installations are spread out around the US, the exact locations remain unknown. Mt. Weather was discovered by accident by a group of hikers looking for a downed air craft. The suddenly came across a 12ft. high fence with barbed wire ontop labeled "Government Land." Much like Area51 in Nevada the government would like to keep Mt. Weather buried in secret. If the public
[CTRL] Fwd: [BIOWAR] Anthrax Hoaxes Create Costly Wave of Fear
Anthrax Hoaxes Create Costly Wave of Fear By Rene Sanchez Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 11, 1999: Page A1 LOS ANGELES The latest targets were a high school and a popular nightclub. Before that, pranksters here struck courthouses, office buildings and a busy department store, creating chaotic evacuations and mass quarantines, all with the same terrifying, one-word threat: anthrax. A wave of hoaxes involving the lethal bacteria is spreading across Southern California and turning up in states nationwide. It is a fad so alarming, so costly and so confounding to police and public health officials that some almost sound wistful for the days when they had to contend only with phony bomb scares. Since late last year, nearly two dozen anthrax threats have been reported just in greater Los Angeles. They have been sent by telephone or by mail, and all have been proved false. But not before thousands of people at the allegedly contaminated sites have been detained for hours, given urgent doses of antibiotics, even ordered to scrub themselves in makeshift showers that authorities set up in parking lots. None of the incidents appears to be the work of the same group or individual, police say, and so far only one suspect has been apprehended and charged with a hoax. He is a 53-year-old accountant who has been accused of trying to delay his appearance at a bankruptcy hearing by calling a federal courthouse and claiming that anthrax had been released into the air-conditioning system. Anthrax spores, found naturally in diseased sheep and cattle, can also exist in other media, including water and soil. They can be transmitted by skin contact or spread in biological warfare in tiny, odorless clouds of gas that can be breathed by humans. Law enforcement officials say headlines about the grave dangers of biological weapons, along with Hollywood's new fascination with bioterrorism in films and television shows, apparently is convincing madmen and pranksters that there is no better way now to frighten the public. "I think we're dealing with nuts out there who are watching 'The X-Files' too much," said Tim McNally, chief of the FBI's Los Angeles field office. "We have never seen anything like this, and it is causing enormous problems. Any time you have a chemical or biological threat, it has to take the highest priority." The spate of hoaxes here is running public health and safety agencies ragged. Responding to each threat has required extraordinary time, care and money. By some official estimates, nearly $500,000 is being spent, and more than 100 health and safety personnel are being dispatched, for almost every incident. Even after a call has been proved fake, many who were affected by it carry lingering fears that their health has been jeopardized. "This is a terrible psychological crime," said Jonathan Fielding, director of the Los Angeles County Public Health Department. "We're seeing that the public anxiety about this is tremendous." After someone phoned in an anthrax threat to a nightclub in nearby Pomona just after Christmas, scores of firefighters, hazardous material teams and biological experts swept in and shut the place down while they investigated. All 800 people there at the time were forbidden to leave the club for four hours. Just two days earlier in Palm Desert, another Los Angeles suburb, an anthrax scare at a department store sent 200 shoppers fleeing into a parking lot. Health workers rushed to the scene, laid down tarps and set up showers, then required shoppers and sales clerks to remove clothing and rinse off with a bleach solution. They, too, were stranded for hours and were even provided with new clothing. After an anthrax scare at a Los Angeles office building, employees were rushed under guard to a hospital for treatment. And an Anaheim high school was quarantined one day
[CTRL] Butler wants answers from U$ on spy-data-sharing
U.N. arms chief wants answers from U.S. about reports of spying Boston Globe January 8: UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The head of a U.N. commission charged with disarming Iraq is demanding to know whether the United States used the weapons inspectors' work to gather intelligence. Richard Butler said he brought the matter up with U.S. officials Thursday, asking them what Washington "might have done unbeknownst to us," in reportedly using U.N. weapons searches to undermine the Iraqi regime. Butler also discussed his concerns with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, who later spoke with Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Annan and Albright discussed allegations that the United States had "piggybacked" on the inspectors' work for its own foreign policy goals, U.N. officials said. Albright assured Annan that Americans in or connected with UNSCOM, the U.N. weapons commission, strictly supported Security Council resolutions. In an interview with The Associated Press, Butler said he expected to have a "relevant conversation about it" today with U.S. officials and that he "wanted real answers". "We don't want our system misused in that way", Butler said. Butler came under fire following newspaper reports this week that detailed a surveillance operation that allowed Washington to eavesdrop on Iraqi military communications network, reportedly through U.N. weapons inspections. The New York Times today quoted unidentified U.S. officials as saying that the United States used the U.N. team to eavesdrop, and that the operation had Butler's blessing. Butler on Thursday denied he ever authorized any surveillance of Saddam Hussein's communications - only messages that related to the National Monitoring Directorate, which works with U.N. inspectors in carrying out arms searches. Iraq has long called for Butler's replacement, accusing him and his inspectors of being spies. Butler denied his staff had ever spied, but said he wanted Washington to clarify whether some other collection efforts or piggybacking on us may have been taking place". U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said Thursday that the United Nations wasn't in a position to investigate such allegations itself, and said it would have to wait to see if any of the charges were corroborated. Butler stressed that he had never directed inspectors' surveillance go anywhere near the Iraqi government. Emphasizing the point, Butler said just before inspectors evacuated Iraq before the Dec. 16-19 airstrikes, they had established in the desert a system to check television waves to monitor the flight paths of missiles. "I directed quite specifically, that there be limitation to that work, that Iraq be accompanied with us and see what we were doing, and that they (inspectors) in no way - in any way - lock on to any Iraqi military or government communications because I didn't want to be accused of exactly this sort of stuff. "And that has been our policy", he said. Butler has chaired UNSCOM for two years, heading the body responsible for overseeing the destruction of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction as called for by the cease-fire resolutions that ended the Persian Gulf War. An oil embargo imposed after Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 cannot be lifted until the inspectors report Iraq is weapons-free. Butler said Thursday he hadn't decided whether he would stay on the job after his term ends June 30. But he rejected the suggestion that the newspaper stories were leaked by Annan's office to undercut him and thus allow for a less controversial inspection regime to return to Baghdad. "The idea that somehow that this whole mega-crisis with Iraq could be solved by giving my head on the plate to the Iraqis is just not serious", Butler said. U.N. arms chief wants answers from U.S. about reports of spying Boston Globe January 8: UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The head of a U.N. commission charged with disarming Iraq is demanding to know whether the United States used the weapons inspectors' work to gather intelligence. Richard Butler said he brought the matter up with U.S. officials Thursday, asking them what Washington "might have done unbeknownst to us," in reportedly using U.N. weapons searches to undermine the Iraqi regime. Butler also discussed his concerns with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, who later spoke with Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Annan and Albright discussed allegations that the United States had "piggybacked" on the inspectors' work for its own foreign policy goals, U.N. officials said. Albright assured Annan that Americans in or connected with UNSCOM, the U.N. weapons commission, strictly supported Security Council resolutions. In an interview with The Associated Press, Butler said he expected to have a "relevant conversation about it" today with
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 9:55:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tuned in to C-Span at 10 pm CST. C-Span gave a brief statement that, since Flynt's announcement may have been "defamatory," they were withholding broadcast for the time being. Well, it seems that when the guns were turned onto the Republicans, they circled the wagons and have declared we will not hear Mr. Flynt's information. Why am I not surprised? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. Says It Collected Iraq Intelligence Via UNSCOM
The Washington Post Friday, January 8, 1999; Page A01 U.S. Says It Collected Iraq Intelligence Via UNSCOM By Thomas W. Lippman and Barton Gellman The United States for nearly three years intermittently monitored the coded radio communications of President Saddam Hussein's innermost security forces using equipment secretly installed in Iraq by U.N. weapons inspectors, according to U.S. and U.N. officials. In 1996 and 1997, the Iraqi communications were captured by off-the-shelf commercial equipment carried by inspectors from the organization known as UNSCOM, then hand-delivered to analysis centers in Britain, Israel, and the United States for interpretation, officials said. But early last year, when UNSCOM decided it was too dangerous for its inspectors to carry the equipment, the United States took control of the operation and replaced the store- bought scanners and digital tape recorders with more sophisticated automated monitors. The intercepted Iraqi communications were sent by satellite relay in a nearby country to the National Security Agency at Fort Meade, where they were decoded and translated into English, the officials said. Information relevant to the work of the U.N. weapons inspection force, which was searching for Iraq's prohibited weapons or the means to conceal them, was shared with UNSCOM's chairman and his deputy, officials said. Other information, including material that might be helpful to the United States in destabilizing Saddam Hussein, was retained by Washington. The U.S. officials said intelligence kept by Washington has proven to be of scant value in its campaign against the Iraqi government. U.S. officials confirmed the monitoring operation in an effort to rebut allegations that the United States had inappropriately used UNSCOM as a tool to penetrate Saddam Hussein's security and promote his downfall. Until yesterday, U.S. officials had denied using intelligence gathered in connection with UNSCOM for U.S. purposes. Elements of the operation were reported this week in The Washington Post and the Boston Globe. The Wall Street Journal added further details in a story published yesterday. The Post assembled over several months an account of the intelligence operation from U.N. and U.S. officials, but agreed last fall not to publish details about sources and methods used to gather the information after U.S. officials said the disclosure would damage national security. This week, U.S. officials have themselves disclosed many of the same details. U.S. officials have said the purpose of the radio intercepts was to help UNSCOM do the job assigned to it by the U.N. Security Council. To the extent the operation provided additional information was a bonus that did not deviate from UNSCOM's mandate, the officials said. UNSCOM has had no staff or operations in Iraq since the U.S. and British missile strikes last month, but there are indications that the monitoring has continued. White House national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger said after the airstrikes that "with or without UNSCOM, we have formidable intelligence capabilities" in Iraq. "We try to monitor as best we can the internal situation in Iraq," Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, commander of U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region, said at a Washington news conference yesterday. As recounted to The Post by U.S. and U.N. officials, the UNSCOM effort to get inside Saddam Hussein's security apparatus began early in this decade, after UNSCOM concluded that Iraq did not intend to comply with U.N. Security Council resolutions requiring it to destroy its nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. While officials said that intelligence agents from several countries, including the United States, were assigned to work on UNSCOM inspection teams, U.S. officials insisted that no Americans report to Washington outside UNSCOM channels. Instead, U.S. officials and others said, it became apparent over time that Iraq was bent on concealing its banned weapons, and that the security forces assigned to that task were the same as those assigned to Saddam Hussein's security. Penetration of one was tantamount to penetration of the other, officials said, especially because they used the same encrypted radio frequencies. Rolf Ekeus, then UNSCOM's chairman and now Sweden's ambassador to the United States, said he briefed members of the Security Council in early 1997 on this discovery and on the possibility that tracking weapons could also end up gathering information that might be helpful in tracking Saddam Hussein. The idea of taking scanners into Iraq originated with Scott Ritter, a former U.S. Marine officer who was working as an UNSCOM inspector in 1995. On a trip to Israel, Ritter proposed that
[CTRL] Fwd: Iceland Sells Its Own Genetic Code
URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi- bin/article.cgi?file=3D/chronicle/archive/1999/01/= 12 /MN98155.DTL=20 Iceland has decided to become the first country in the world to sell the rights to the entire population's genetic code to a biotechnology company -- a move that is highlighting the promise and risks of the genetic information age. Roche Holding Ltd. has signed a $200 million, five-year deal to develop new drugs and tests from the data. The strikingly uniform DNA of Iceland's largely blue-eyed, blond- haired populace is expected to provide an invaluable resource for studying human genetics, leading to fundamental insights into many diseases, proponents say. But opponents fear that the database could make the most private details of individuals' lives public. People with mental illness or other health problems could be stigmatized, perhaps suffering job discrimination. Patients may become less willing to divulge personal information to their doctors. And in a country where some estimates say that about 10 percent of the population may have been born out of wedlock, long-held family secrets could leak out. The plan is to pool detailed genetic, medical and genealogical information about Iceland's 270,000 residents into linked databases that companies will search for clues into the nature of disease. Although a majority of Iceland's citizens support the plan, a vocal minority of scientists and doctors -- with support from a worldwide network of like-minded privacy advocates -- have stoked the controversy. ``Most doctors and scientists here in Iceland are in favor of the basic purpose of this project -- but find the proposed solution quite unethical and unrealistic,'' said Jon Erlendsson, a Reykjavik-based engineer and writer who believes the database network will eventually fail because doctors and patients will refuse to cooperate once its nature is better understood. The fight in Iceland is focusing attention on the potential risks of efforts to mine and refine personal data -- efforts that are also increasingly common in the United States and around the world. ``Turning the population into electronic guinea pigs'' should serve as a warning to Americans, said David Banisar of the Washington-based Electronic Privacy Information Center. Despite the objections, Iceland could begin collecting blood to obtain the DNA samples within six months, after a period in which citizens may decline to participate. Precisely how the blood will be collected has not been determined. The plan was proposed by a Harvard-educated Icelandic scientist as a way to develop a new natural resource for a country where unemployment is a chronic problem. Iceland's parliament, the Althing, approved the plan last month, passing a law authorizing the database and creating the framework that will enable a local company, deCODE Genetics, to hold an unusual 12- year monopoly on data marketing rights. Iceland's population presents a tantalizing opportunity for those who study genetics because all of that blond hair and blue eyes reflects one of the most remarkably homogeneous populations in the world. The original blend of ninth- century Norse people and Celtic seamen has been largely unchanged, and that gene pool was further restricted by bouts of plague, famine and volcanic eruption. =A91998 San Francisco Chronicle Page A9=20 The address for any administrative command like unsubscribe, subscribe or help is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The WWW list archive is available at http://gen.free.de/archives.html Iceland Sells Its Own Genetic Code Biotech firm buys data of islanders' DNA=20 John Schwartz Tuesday, January 12, 1999=20 =A91998 San Francisco Chronicle=20 URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=3D/chronicle/archive/1999/01/= 12 /MN98155.DTL=20 Iceland has decided to become the first country in the world to sell the rights to the entire population's genetic code to a biotechnology company -- a move that is highlighting the promise and risks of the genetic information age. Roche Holding Ltd. has signed a $200 million, five-year deal to develop new drugs and tests from the data. The strikingly uniform DNA of Iceland's largely blue-eyed, blond- haired populace is expected to provide an invaluable resource for studying human genetics, leading to fundamental insights into many diseases, proponents say. But opponents fear that the database could make the most private details of individuals' lives public. People with mental illness or other health problems could be stigmatized, perhaps suffering job discrimination. Patients may become less willing to divulge personal information to their doctors. And in a country where some estimates say that about 10 percent of the population may have
[CTRL] With CBS News in Tow, AOL Runs Amuck
WITH CBS NEWS IN TOW, THE AOL JUGGERNAUT ROLLS ON By Norman Solomon There's no doubt that America Online has become one of the most important media outlets in the country. At the end of last year, AOL's membership topped 15 million. Now, AOL is joining forces with CBS for an unprecedented alliance. "CBS News will be guaranteed a major and ongoing presence throughout AOL," a joint announcement said in early January. "America Online has also committed to showcase the talents of CBS News correspondents, producers and editors." Meanwhile, CBS has pledged to boost AOL via "extensive on-air promotion within each of its news broadcasts" -- including "CBS Evening News," "Face the Nation," "48 Hours" and "60 Minutes." Eager to spur enthusiasm among investors, the two media firms are touting financial synergy: "CBS and AOL have agreed on an exchange of value for CBS News products featured on AOL and on-air promotion of AOL within CBS News programming." It's all very cozy. Two huge media organizations are now joined at the corporate hip after making a deal to ceaselessly hype each other. As the nation's overwhelmingly dominant Internet provider, America Online is on a roll. No wonder AOL's chief executive, Steve Case, sounded so cheery in a recent cyber-letter to AOL subscribers: * "The next century will be defined by the integration of the Internet into people's lives, into society and into our global economy," Case wrote. "So, as we start the new year, it seems like a good time to take stock of our progress in building something we can all be proud of." The notion that a century could be "defined" by the use of Internet technology makes for rhetoric that is interesting but delusional. Likewise, the pretense that we're all involved in developing the Internet on a remotely equal basis -- you, me and Steve Case -- is comforting but absurd. * "By almost any measure, the Internet truly came of age in 1998," Case reported. He added: "Interactive services like personal finance and online shopping skyrocketed in popularity." Apparently, the term "interactive" has become so debased that it's now applied to actions such as paying bills, making investments and shopping on the Internet. * "Another great strength of the online medium -- and one you know is a high priority for AOL -- is its ability to bring people together Nearly 90 percent of online consumers say they regularly or occasionally go online to communicate with friends and family, and almost all say that the online medium makes communicating with friends and family easier." Commonly obscured is the fact that we don't need AOL or any other hyper-commercialized online service in order to send and receive e-mail. * "Almost half of laptop owners say they take their machines with them on vacation...and over one-quarter of online consumers check their e-mail on vacation." This is progress? * "Of those who meet new people online, over 90 percent say it is easier in cyberspace than the real world." Now we're in deep waters: Connecting with a modem is so much more gratifying than old-fashioned human contact. Why bother with the "real world" when you can keep looking at a computer screen? * "And, of course, the new online ways to research products and shop online is also a significant driver of the medium's success." Of course. Despite Case's tangled grammar, the message is clear: Big money is driving Internet development. * "Nearly three-quarters of the online consumer population say they go online to get information about products to buy." At this rate, the Internet will mainly serve as an amalgamation of every shopping mall and boutique in the universe. * "And almost half think that being online has a more positive influence on children than watching television." Talk about low standards. * "Only one-quarter of American households are online today and, of those, nearly two-thirds got connected within the past two years. As more people get connected, and people embed interactive services even more in their lives, I'm sure we'll see attitudes change even more dramatically over the years." That will probably be gratifying for true believers in the virtual world of America Online. But what about the rest of us? ___ Norman Solomon is co-author of "Wizards of Media Oz." His new book "The Habits of Highly Deceptive Media" will be published in March. Original Message Follows Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:06:37 -0600 (CST) From: Norman Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FAIR: With CBS News in Tow, AOL Runs Amuck To: undisclosed-recipients:; WITH CBS NEWS IN TOW, THE AOL JUGGERNAUT ROLLS ON By Norman Solomon
[CTRL] Truth and Consequences
-Caveat Lector- When USWeb replaced company founder Joe Firmage as CEO, two things became clear. One, in the boardrooms of Silicon Valley, you don't get to believe in space aliens. And two, the world isn't ready for anything billed as The Truth, whether it's true or not. By Michael Learmonth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTHING about Joseph P. Firmage seems the slightest bit ethereal, a hard thing to reconcile considering the events of recent weeks. Forty-five minutes after our meeting was scheduled to start, I am ushered down a busy hall in a Santa Clara office building and shown into his corner office at USWeb, where the young executive sits busily tapping his keyboard. Without turning away from his computer, Firmage asks me to take a seat. At 28, he's a decamillionaire with two wildly successful high-tech startups under his belt. Having founded USWeb in 1995 and in three years built it into a public company worth about $1 billion, Firmage has made himself and a lot of other people very rich, very fast. Firmage founded his first company, Serius Corp, when he was just 18. Those who know him seem to fall into two camps: those who think he's brilliant, and those who think he's a genius. Firmage is a prodigy in a valley full of sharpies, but I've come to his office today to be pitched on a rather fantastic proposition, even by Silicon Valley standards. Firmage spins around in his leather chair. "I am directly challenging the scientific presumption against the viability of visitation by extraterrestrials. And I have the evidence to show for it that will be published tomorrow," Firmage tells me as matter-of-factly and confidently as if he were pitching a business plan. Firmage wears a dark shirt and slacks; precisely trimmed facial hair frames his squarish jaw. Over the past year he has worked nonstop on a work he has titled The Truth, a 600-page hypothesis appearing on the Web site www.thewordistruth.org, all the while running USWeb, a company which now has more than 1000 employees in more than 50 offices on three continents. (A subsidiary of Metro's parent company owned one of those offices until earlier this year and remains a stockholder of USWeb Corporation.) Firmage has granted scant interviews, and indeed this meeting is squeezed between pressing engagements and several days spent in seclusion where he worked on the completion of the final chapters of his book. He speaks slowly and precisely like a seasoned orator, repeating the words "wondrous" and "astonishing." His intonations and gestures convey a CEO's unwavering confidence in his ideas, as they should. Until last month, Firmage was CEO of USWeb, but then he committed the Wall Street equivalent of hanging crystals and burning incense in his office: he started talking about aliens and ideas and capital-T Truth. When his Web site started getting hits, it was mere weeks until the company issued a press release announcing his transition from "CEO" to "founder and chief strategist." His grand strategy had been to create what he envisioned would be the greatest professional services firm of the Internet age, helping companies redesign their infrastructure as network computing absorbed print publishing, telephony and broadcasting in successive waves and cheap bandwidth became plentiful. First selling franchises to Web development operators coast-to-coast, USWeb then went on an acquisition binge, swallowing up more than 30 companies in less than two years. Finally, it bought out a pioneering Silicon Valley Web developer, the publicly traded advertising agency CKS Group, in a stock transaction valued at $326 million. The merger is scheduled to be completed by year's end, and the combined entity will be known as USWeb/CKS. USWeb's stock price, however, plunged to nearly half its pre-announcement value after the two companies announced their intent to merge Sept. 2, and the stock was rebounding slowly. Firmage had successfully seen the company through its growth and IPO and had established key partnerships with Intel, Microsoft and NBC, but word of Firmage's extracurricular research trickled out and both the fragile stock price and USWeb's ability to get consulting business from blue chip corporations was being placed at risk. Board member Gary Rieschel was quoted in a trade publication as saying, "Our competitors were highlighting this to the media and calling Joe a crackpot." As USWeb's largest individual shareholder, the notion that Firmage fell on his sword voluntarily is not implausible. Whatever the genesis, the gambit worked, and USWeb's stock price jumped more than two points on the news of the new CEO's appointment. Stepping down, Firmage says with the confidence of a person who knows how the world works and figures he can win anyway, "was my choice and enthusiastically so." A CEO transition had long been in the works, he says, and he had already chosen his successor, Oracle VP and Silicon Valley A-lister Robert Shaw. The timing of Firmage's side
Re: [CTRL] Truth and Consequences
-Caveat Lector- http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.10.98/cover/joefirmage1-9849.html -Original Message- From: Jeff Hearon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Truth and Consequences -Caveat Lector- When USWeb replaced company founder Joe Firmage as CEO, two things became clear. One, in the boardrooms of Silicon Valley, you don't get to believe in space aliens. And two, the world isn't ready for anything billed as The Truth, whether it's true or not. By Michael Learmonth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTHING about Joseph P. Firmage seems the slightest bit ethereal, a hard thing to reconcile considering the events of recent weeks. Forty-five minutes after our meeting was scheduled to start, I am ushered down a busy hall in a Santa Clara office building and shown into his corner office at USWeb, where the young executive sits busily tapping his keyboard. Without turning away from his computer, Firmage asks me to take a seat. At 28, he's a decamillionaire with two wildly successful high-tech startups under his belt. Having founded USWeb in 1995 and in three years built it into a public company worth about $1 billion, Firmage has made himself and a lot of other people very rich, very fast. Firmage founded his first company, Serius Corp, when he was just 18. Those who know him seem to fall into two camps: those who think he's brilliant, and those who think he's a genius. Firmage is a prodigy in a valley full of sharpies, but I've come to his office today to be pitched on a rather fantastic proposition, even by Silicon Valley standards. Firmage spins around in his leather chair. "I am directly challenging the scientific presumption against the viability of visitation by extraterrestrials. And I have the evidence to show for it that will be published tomorrow," Firmage tells me as matter-of-factly and confidently as if he were pitching a business plan. Firmage wears a dark shirt and slacks; precisely trimmed facial hair frames his squarish jaw. Over the past year he has worked nonstop on a work he has titled The Truth, a 600-page hypothesis appearing on the Web site www.thewordistruth.org, all the while running USWeb, a company which now has more than 1000 employees in more than 50 offices on three continents. (A subsidiary of Metro's parent company owned one of those offices until earlier this year and remains a stockholder of USWeb Corporation.) Firmage has granted scant interviews, and indeed this meeting is squeezed between pressing engagements and several days spent in seclusion where he worked on the completion of the final chapters of his book. He speaks slowly and precisely like a seasoned orator, repeating the words "wondrous" and "astonishing." His intonations and gestures convey a CEO's unwavering confidence in his ideas, as they should. Until last month, Firmage was CEO of USWeb, but then he committed the Wall Street equivalent of hanging crystals and burning incense in his office: he started talking about aliens and ideas and capital-T Truth. When his Web site started getting hits, it was mere weeks until the company issued a press release announcing his transition from "CEO" to "founder and chief strategist." His grand strategy had been to create what he envisioned would be the greatest professional services firm of the Internet age, helping companies redesign their infrastructure as network computing absorbed print publishing, telephony and broadcasting in successive waves and cheap bandwidth became plentiful. First selling franchises to Web development operators coast-to-coast, USWeb then went on an acquisition binge, swallowing up more than 30 companies in less than two years. Finally, it bought out a pioneering Silicon Valley Web developer, the publicly traded advertising agency CKS Group, in a stock transaction valued at $326 million. The merger is scheduled to be completed by year's end, and the combined entity will be known as USWeb/CKS. USWeb's stock price, however, plunged to nearly half its pre-announcement value after the two companies announced their intent to merge Sept. 2, and the stock was rebounding slowly. Firmage had successfully seen the company through its growth and IPO and had established key partnerships with Intel, Microsoft and NBC, but word of Firmage's extracurricular research trickled out and both the fragile stock price and USWeb's ability to get consulting business from blue chip corporations was being placed at risk. Board member Gary Rieschel was quoted in a trade publication as saying, "Our competitors were highlighting this to the media and calling Joe a crackpot." As USWeb's largest individual shareholder, the notion that Firmage fell on his sword voluntarily is not implausible. Whatever the genesis, the gambit worked, and USWeb's stock price jumped more than two points on the news of
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.10.98/cover/joefirmage2-9849.html Excerpt My Contact By Joe Firmage Excerpted from The Truth I was reading for the first time an absolutely fascinating article with remarkable new ideas that relate the ZPE to the origin of inertia and gravitation--when I decided that I was too exhausted from the preparation for the USWeb Initial Public Offering to read physics any further that night. I went to bed as usual, that evening a year ago early this month. Which specific day, I don't remember, for I was foolish enough not to write down my experience then. But I remember the event with absolute fidelity. My alarm clock rang at 6:10 am, as it usually did when I planned to hit the gym to exercise my too-sedate body. Also as usual, my hand slammed the snooze button. The next nine minute snooze changed the course of my life. It changed my life forever, as you have seen by my decisions since. As I snoozed, something amazing happened. A remarkable being, clothed in brilliant white light, appeared hovering over my bed in my room. He had dark hair and a beard, I believe. He looked rather annoyed, and asked "Why have you called me here?" I answered without a moment's pause: "I want to travel in space." This was always my lifelong dream, and it naturally came out in a state of semi-waking thought. He chuckled skeptically, paused, and asked "Why should you be granted such an opportunity?" I responded without hesitation, in the only way I could have responded given my life to that time: "Because I'm willing to die for it!" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation
-Caveat Lector- An apologist for slavery and . . . You may think what you want, but do you realize your rationalzations are inhumane. Your contention that owning people, because of interpretations of scripture, is a valid human endeavour is ill- founded. Slavery is wrong, is known by the fact of the actions of slavery, not by any vaunted scribblings. Lord, have mercy, the sufferrings from arrogannce saited by piety. A side-kick , someone to kick around. Embarrased? Shucks, wonder what your side-kick had to endure. The social rules were racist. Valid in the eyes of Jesus aka The Christ? Like I said, I was raised in the South, home of gentlemen/women and racism fostered by an illegal social and political system. The seperate facilities has stopped, why? Because it was wrong. Ladies couldn't even vote untill this century. Slavery comes in many forms. We shall overcome. You write me personally and complain about this post and this person and what are the rules. Yeah, there are rules and rule makers and rulers and yardsticks and junk-yard dogs. I ain'y yo mamma and if ya want a cop call 911. Actions begat reactions and so forth. Chill . . . Om K - In a message dated 1/11/99 1:37:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although prison life is no fun, it appears from evidence of the prisoners that they were better off there than in combat. snip As I mentioned, I grew up in the South... and have lived in the South most of my life. When I was in my late teens, I worked summers in the family business, which required some travel between towns in the South. I had a black "side-kick" or co-worker. It always embarrased me when he could not eat in the regular dining room of road-side restaurants (which have developed into truck stops). There were many reasons for such "social rules," some of which were valid, and others weren't. Most of the time I ate outside, or in the "back room" with Raymond (my co-worker). My family was in the theatre business, and at that time blacks were required to sit in the balcony... there were reasons for that, too, which I will tell you about by private email if you desire - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Stampeding Bison
-Caveat Lector- believe to be juvenile posts knocking one anothermaybe both of you need a time out. YI've been on this list for YEARSif you don't like it, LEAVE... CW-I have been listening to others and there is a lot of knowledge on this listwhen I got on this morning I saw this post calling someone else names...and for a while I thought that person should get cooled off too...but then as i read he was trying to be reasonable...take it private if you want to call others names instead of having this bunk end up in my mailbox. CWAs I said I am learning a lot of the others, and have been exposed to different way of looking at somethings... However I do get upset at name calling and innuendos has been going on for quite a while on this list. Maybe it was the first post I received when I got on that hit me wrong...but having slanderous remarks and you don't even have documentation for the remarks. G CWLike I have said I have been listening to others and there is a lot of knowledge on this list, and I appreciate them for their input...through their eyes I see things a little bit differently. ---Ma'am I consider you to be disrespectful to all of us on this list YWho the FUCK are YOU? YYou just join this list, and presume to DICTATE to those of us who have been on it for YEARS? CWI will voice my opinion if I see something that does not seem to be right ..like you do. Because you have been here longer does that mean I should not get any respect from you, and my posts are worth less than yours. after reading your post thoroughly. I do not want a post like this taking up room in my mailbox. YSo hit the fucking delete key... I have read your posts before, and you at times, can have a pretty good onejust do your name calling privately, instead of using the list for it. This way I can enjoy the other posts which you submit, but for that post to be the first one I read in the morning...well...I guess I expected more from you especially since you have been on the list for some time. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy your posts when you aren't bashing anyone around. so if you please write down your facts instead of posting personal opinion, I would be more than appreciative. YBite me. In this post you did not think you letyour emotions take over...if you findyourself doing this againwrite it --read it...edit it...or don't send it. YBite me. CWMa'am I do not think it would be wise, might be a bitter taste if I did.- Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Europe Plans Huge Spy Web
-Caveat Lector- from: http://jya.com/eurospy.htm A HREF="http://jya.com/eurospy.htm"Europe Plans Huge Spy Web/A - 7 January 1999. Thanks to RS. Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000231145059143rtmo=LKlGGdydatmo= P4_FOLLOW_ON=/99/1/7/ecnspy07.htmlpg=/et/99/1/7/ecnspy07.html UK Telegraph Online, 7 January 1999 Europe plans huge spy web By Simon Davies LAW enforcement agencies have laid the foundations for a massive eavesdropping system capable of intercepting all mobile phone calls, Internet communications, and fax and pager messages in Europe. The plan, known as Enfopol 98, has been drawn up in secret by police and justice officials as part of a Europe-wide strategy to create a seamless web of telecommunications surveillance across national boundaries. The strategy, which has received widespread support in the EU Justice and Home Affairs Council, will oblige all ISPs and telephone exchanges to provide agencies with "real time, full time" access to all communications, regardless of the country of origin. Current eavesdropping techniques require specific authority to be granted within each individual country so that agencies can monitor pre-designated communications within each jurisdiction. Under the proposed system, Europe will create a "one-stop shop" for snooping on communications. Satellite systems such as Iridium will be forced to create "wiretap-friendly" technology, while ISPs must submit to requirements for interception of content. The plan was revealed by the German Internet magazine Telepolis, which recently published details of the strategy. The EU has refused to acknowledge the status of the proposal, but it is now known that Enfopol has passed through the Justice and Home Affairs Council to the stage of draft resolution. So far, national parliaments have scarcely been involved. To the dismay of advocates of strong encryption, Enfopol will function on the principle that all code must be capable of being broken. The Enfopol system will be aided by a "subject tagging" system capable of tracking targets wherever they travel. Known as the "International User Requirements for Interception" (IUR), the tagging system will create a data processing and transmission network that involves not only the names, addresses and phone numbers of targets and associates, but email addresses, credit card details, PINs and passwords. The move to establish Enfopol follows a five-year lobbying exercise by American agencies such as the FBI. When completed, the system will provide a global interception regime. But the proposal has infuriated civil liberties and Internet rights organisations. Ian Brown, technology policy director of Privacy International calls, it a "sniper's bullet to the heart of privacy". - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 1/12/98
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - US Stocks A Bookstore Bigger Than Norway by Bob Harris Priced any internet stocks lately? This isn't just a speculative bubble. If Richard Branson's balloon was this large, he'd be all the way to Morocco by now. What's more valuable? The bookseller Amazon.com, which has yet to show a dollar in profit and is dwarfed in several respects by several of its competitors, or the country of Norway? You guessed it. Do the math, folks, and according to the speculators now ruling the casino on Wall Street, the market capitalization of Amazon.com now exceeds that of the entire stock market of Norway. Does that sound reasonable to you? It gets better. Suppose for a second that Amazon.com had a complete monopoly on every book sold in the United States. According to Barron's, the stock is still priced at fifty times the hypothetical earnings. Which means Amazon.com is now worth five to ten times what it would be worth if it sold every single book in America. Are we getting close to a crash? Oh, possibly. That hissing sound you hear might just be the airbag getting ready to [deflate]. Calling the exact timing of market movements is considered almost impossible, but two of the most powerful indicators of an impending downturn are a) the opinions of investment newsletters, and b) the ratio of people buying call options, (a high-risk, high-reward way of betting the market's about to go up quickly) to those buying puts (a similar bet on an impending drop). Both of these groups are notoriously wrong, so when you see all the newsletters going positive, or you see twice as many calls being bought than puts, that's usually a good time to start looking for the exits. Last week, Barron's reported what they termed a "buying panic" in call options, and the investment newsletters were more bullish than they've been in seven years. Uh-oh. This is just one guy's opinion here, so take my advice at your own risk -- it could be weeks before a downturn, or even months -- but remember the last time I was this amused by stock overvaluations was literally days before last summer's big pullback (radio edition of The Scoop, broadcast on KNX 1070 AM in Los Angeles 7/11/98). So do your own thinking. Norway, Amazon. Amazon, Norway. Hmm... I don't want to alarm anyone out there, but... RUN!!! The Scoop, Jan. 11, 1999 Information SuperSpyWay India Issues Red Alert Against US Network Software Encryption is weak so the NSA can spy on India THE Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has issued a `red alert' against all network security software developed in the US. And the Central Vigilance Commissioner, N Vittal, is following up on the warning - he might make it mandatory for all Indian banks and financial institutions to buy only software developed in India. The DRDO's concern about US-developed software stems from one basic insecurity - the data traffic and network security software that comes from the US can be easily hacked into and could prove to be a security hazard. Currently US software vendors can export only those "encryption software products" that can be `broken' by the US National Security Agency. This makes the quality of the US software exported to India doubtful from a security point of view. In a letter to the CVC, the centre for artificial intelligence of the DRDO, Bangalore, has said that it has begun to develop secure communication tools and will have an indigenous prototype in place in three months. The CVC is expected to wait for the final product before deciding on the action to be taken. The centre has developed software tools that protect wide area networks from hostile attackers. It is also developing software tools for protecting traffic passing through the network. "The encryption part of the software is complete and only the communication protocols remain to be written," the DRDO unit's letter says. "Since the software has been written by ourselves, there is no upper limit on the security level provided by the encryption in the software exported from the USA," it added. Pointing out the defects in imported software, the letter says that the present `firewall' products on sale by commercial vendors incorporate only rudimentary packet level filtering. These can be compromised easily. It also points out that as per US law, ``no encryption software products can be exported from the US if they are too strong to be broken by the US National Security Agency''. The letter says: ``To put it bluntly, only insecure software can be exported. When various multinational companies go around peddling `secure communication software' products to gullible Indian customers, they conveniently neglect to mention this aspect of the US export law. "Another related point is that when we buy an imported software product that is a `black box' to us, we cannot be sure that
[CTRL] Why you will survive Y2K
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_browne/19990111_xchbr_why_you_wi.shtml A HREF="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_browne/19990111_xchbr_why_you_wi .shtml"Why you will survive Y2K /A - MONDAY JANUARY 11 1999 Why you will survive Y2K By Harry Browne © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com There is good news and bad news regarding the Y2K computer problem. The good news: Civilization isn't going to collapse in the year 2000. The bad news: I don't know where you can unload all the coins and food storage you've acquired. Some companies and some government agencies will have problems on January 1, 2000 -- when some of their computers think it's January 1, 1900. But most companies will have no major problems, and life will go on largely undisturbed. For most of us, the problems of January 2000 will be smaller than the inconveniences we already endure -- such as the power failures from government-sheltered electric companies when we need air conditioning in the summer or heat in the winter. The Y2K problem has been exaggerated by people who don't understand computers, and by computer experts who don't understand how the free market works. Many large companies do need to upgrade old computer systems and databases (although your personal computer probably will have no problems). Upgrading a computer system is a formidable task. But so is moving into a new factory, changing a product line, or dealing with new regulations. Companies deal with such problems as they arise, and one way or another they usually solve them. The Y2K problem seemed uniquely dangerous because millions of companies have to deal with it at the same time. Hundreds of thousands of COBOL programmers would have to be found -- to examine old computer programs, change every date reference, and test the corrections. But, in truth, a widespread problem is easier to handle, because it offers bigger profits to people who can devise solutions. So now there are products like Revolve, Restore 2000, Milligration, and dozens more -- computer programs that go through old programs, fix the date problems, and test the results. These automated solutions eliminate the need for thousands of programmers. The Internet flourished in a similar, unpredictable way. If in 1994 someone had said there would be millions of World Wide Web sites in 1999, you might have assumed he didn't understand computers. Websites are written in a complicated computer language called HTML. Where are the hundreds of thousands of HTML writers necessary to build millions of sites? But software companies came forward with computer programs that enable people to build websites without understanding HTML. Other programs help specialists to produce the more sophisticated, animated, interactive sites. The result is that we do have millions of websites after all. Websites abound and Y2K is being handled because the computer industry is the freest in America -- providing computers thousands of times faster than those of 1985, while selling at a fraction of 1985 prices. Of course, if the Justice Department defeats Microsoft, we may soon have a Federal Computer Agency that delays new products for years -- until it satisfies itself that the products are safe, effective, and non-monopolistic. Then computers and software will become continually more expensive -- just like a hospital stay or health insurance. On the other hand, suppose the medical industry were as free and innovative as the libertarian world of computers and Internet websites -- released from government mandates and red tape. Imagine hospital stays costing, say, $300 a day, wonder drugs for 50 cents a pill, family health insurance for maybe $500 a year. Does that sound too good to be true? Freedom always does. But somehow -- in ways we can never foresee -- it always delivers the goods. Harry Browne was the 1996 Libertarian Party presidential candidate. Many of his articles are published at his website. GO TO HARRY BROWNE'S ARCHIVE CONTACT WND | SUPPORT WND | GO TO PAGE ONE | SEARCH WND ©1999 Western Journalism Center This page was last built 1/11/99; 2:10:46 AM Site scripted with UserLand Frontier Direct corrections and technical inquiries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris
Re: [CTRL] Impeachment and Clinton
-Caveat Lector- This may be too simplistic for some but it seems to be the truth for me. I base things under the headings of Education or Human Sacrifice. If each religion originally started as a school. Think of your typical church for example A teacher at the front and the students listening, (break) A standard curriculum for the whole church, the history, economic, interpersonal communications, international communications book called a Bible. Sometimes there would be two interpretations in a particular book of it. Why, Hypothesis - what would happen if this were true. People would learn to read just from learning the scriptures. Religion is not dead - not anymore than the teaching of English and History in our schools is dead. (continued from break) so that everyone could see that each person had their own idea of what it said. So if Religion was also a help for education what would be the end of the world, the end of Religion, the end of education? Bombs? Not likely, they are only a symptom of the disease. A way to keep us sidetracked from the true issues. We have been living at the end of the world since at least the time of "New Math" Help Return The Law To A Learned Profession - http://www.tncrimlaw.com/civil_bible/burch_speech.html Is this true of professions like doctors? How many "Professionals" how come out of our schools like Bush SR. did? Abbreviated education the followed someone else's view of the world so that they would advance that view point? How many economics have degrees simply because they would put out the right statistics when they were hired? If much of what I am putting together is true, it means that the Clintons, Bushs and others are committing the Genocide of America and Africa. Also that they are trying to make it seem that it is the will of the American people so that they can slip out and leave America holding the bag. So that we will have a war and that they will profit. Two areas that they would defiantly want targeted is the Library of Congress and the Vatican, that would allow them to re-write history. The underlying theme though is that a constitutional government is not viable. That the education of the people is detrimental or that it can not happen. What has happened? Can governments like the Soviet Union be viable? Look at the money, our government has been propping them up. The Cold War over? It has just started. The biggest problem is that we are going to have to take care of it (the cold war) inside of our own borders. The US Military? Do not count on the US Military they are capable of being taken out the next time that the personal are required to be vaccinated. Opps, Bad batch of Vaccine. The Solders for this? Our Educators, Our Universities, Our Schools, Our Teachers. Will the word go out this time in total or will it end up being covered up by Headlines like "Kent State", "Kennedy is Dead" - the message corrupted by using someone like John Lenin and saying that his way of thought was true. By talking about Homosexuals, who hides behind (the true) Homosexuals? Pedophiles. What is an area that the Clintons have supported? The making of sexual movies through the art foundation. One World, Boring! Viva La Difference. But the belief in life. The Constitution was to be the next evolution of thought. Remember "History Repeats It's Self" If we do not do it now, the best we can, if we can - this will be back again. all for now. Laura AKA The Pied Piper DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ANSWER OF PRESIDENT WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON TO THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/denial.htm A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/denial.htm"Answer of President William Jefferson Clinton T /A - For the record. Om K - IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES SITTING AS A COURT OF IMPEACHMENT ___ In re Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton President of the United States ___ ) ) ) ) ) ) ANSWER OF PRESIDENT WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON TO THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT The Honorable William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States, in response to the summons of the Senate of the United States, answers the accusations made by the House of Representatives of the United States in the two Articles of Impeachment it has exhibited to the Senate as follows: PREAMBLE THE CHARGES IN THE ARTICLES DO NOT CONSTITUTE HIGH CRIMES OR MISDEMEANORS The charges in the two Articles of Impeachment do not permit the conviction and removal from office of a duly elected President. The President has acknowledged conduct with Ms. Lewinsky that was improper. But Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution provides that the President shall be removed from office only upon Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. The charges in the articles do not rise to the level of high Crimes and Misdemeanors as contemplated by the Founding Fathers, and they do not satisfy the rigorous constitutional standard applied throughout our Nations history. Accordingly, the Articles of Impeachment should be dismissed. THE PRESIDENT DID NOT COMMIT PERJURY OR OBSTRUCT JUSTICE The President denies each and every material allegation of the two Articles of Impeachment not specifically admitted in this ANSWER. ARTICLE I President Clinton denies that he made perjurious, false and misleading statements before the federal grand jury on August 17, 1998. FACTUAL RESPONSES TO ARTICLE I Without waiving his affirmative defenses, President Clinton offers the following factual responses to the allegations in Article I: 1.The President denies that he made perjurious, false and misleading statements to the grand jury about the nature and details of his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. There is a myth about President Clintons testimony before the grand jury. The myth is that the President failed to admit his improper intimate relationship with Ms. Monica Lewinsky. The myth is perpetuated by Article I, which accuses the President of lying about the nature and details of his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. The fact is that the President specifically acknowledged to the grand jury that he had an improper intimate relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. He said so, plainly and clearly: When I was alone with Ms. Lewinsky on certain occasions in early 1996 and once in early 1997, I engaged in conduct that was wrong. These encounters . . . did involve inappropriate intimate contact. The President described to the grand jury how the relationship began and how it ended at his insistence early in 1997 -- long before any public attention or scrutiny. He also described to the grand jury how he had attempted to testify in the deposition in the Jones case months earlier without having to acknowledge to the Jones lawyers what he ultimately admitted to the grand jury -- that he had an improper intimate relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. The President read a prepared statement to the grand jury acknowledging his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. The statement was offered at the beginning of his testimony to focus the questioning in a manner that would allow the Office of Independent Counsel to obtain necessary information without unduly dwelling on the salacious details of the relationship. The Presidents statement was followed by almost four hours of questioning. If it is charged that his statement was in any respect perjurious, false and misleading, the President denies it. The President also denies that the statement was in any way an attempt to thwart the investigation. The President states, as he did during his grand jury testimony, that he engaged in improper physical contact with Ms. Lewinsky. The President was truthful when he testified before the grand jury that he did not engage in sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky as he understood that term to be defined by the Jones lawyers during their questioning of him in that deposition. The President further denies that his other statements to the grand jury about the nature and details of his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky were perjurious, false, and misleading. 2.The President denies that he made perjurious, false and misleading statements to the grand jury when he testified about statements he had made in the Jones deposition. There is a second myth about the Presidents testimony before the grand jury. The myth is that the President adopted his entire Jones deposition testimony in the grand jury. The President was not asked to and did
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- lol Carlene, I appreciate your interest in my take on the French "culture". I must confess, I have no hard evidence to support the statement that the buttocks of the average Frenchman are indeed physically capable of playing any bellows-driven instrument. Okay...when you find some documentation on this let me know. However, I can attest that wherever you walk on the cruddy streets of Paris, you CONSTANTLY hear that goddamn accordion music playing. Wait a second why is it god@@@ accordian music up here in Wisconsin we have that for our polkas, is that godd@@ as well ? Now you will have to substantiate what is and what isn't god@@@ and please include the criteria of what makes something god@@@ or notOkay ? Regarding the chef's hat theorem... If you take your average chef's hat, and then wereto compress it maniacally down on your head,===: THE BERET! Now that you mention it...it could be a beret...okay will let that one pass, we have to be careful with this documentation here. Lastly, the phrase "mime sucks ass" is not merely an observation or a statement of vitriol. It is a bona fide fact. Let us examine the harsh truths of mime, and together we will learn why it does indeed suck ass. 1) Mimes wear tight pants, horizontal striped shirts, and suspenders. - Conclusion: If an art form requires you to dress like a jerk, it sucks ass. 2) Mimes paint their faces stark white with that stupid teardrop on their cheek. - Conclusion: Face painting sucks ass. Mime employs face painting. Therefore, mime sucks ass. 3) Mimes do stupid and annoying hand and body motions and try to pass it off as art. - Now, if they really wereclimbing a mountain in a windstorm, that would be entertaining. There isalso the chance that they would be blown off the mountain. One less mime. Conclusion - Waving your hands around like a fan dancer with the DTs and calling it art sucks ass. 4) Mime bother people on the street and occasionally employ annoying props (whistles, balloons, etc.). - Conclusion: Annoying innocent bystanders with loud sounds and second-rate entertainment sucks ass. There you have it, my friend. In a nutshell, the reasons why mime sucks ass. Loved it !!! ROFLAO Okay, pretty good documentation but is it a documentation of opinion or fact. G I look forward to reading your other posts, but please remember to documentate. G Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 20/20 Revision
-Caveat Lector- from: http://hail.icestorm.net/twistory/1-15-99.htm A HREF="http://hail.icestorm.net/twistory/1-15-99.htm"1-15-99/A - Nice graphix and embedded links at site. Om k - 1-15-99 20/20 Revision Our eyes sometimes play tricks on us, memories of last Thursday's lunch is often a guess, and we always hear the telephone ring when we don't feel like talking to anyone.Answers to questions, in the strict sense, are either true or false, but it should be recognized that 'truth' itself is subject to change and at any given moment the current 'truth' of something is only another way of describing a consensually accepted opinion.New information changes opinion and suddenly we see things in a different light.Keeping up with the 'truth' can get tricky... When Eric Blair (writing as George Orwell) penned his famous dystopian novel, 1984, he introduced us to the chilling slogan, "Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past."While Blair was directly inferring reference to the mid-20th century totalitarian practice of not simply killing an enemy, but destroying every record or reference to the individual, the slogan also accurately described methods employed in quondam times. From the tactics of the Catholic Spanish Inquisition in destroying church and public documents of convicted heretics, back to the removal of Akhenaton's name and any trace of his religious reforms from monuments and statuary by Hor-em-heb and Ramses I in ancient Egypt, we may safely conclude that it is not uncommon for those in power to change ...history. The historian's task thus becomes extremely difficult in the face of the destruction of evidential data, and is further complicated when previous 'historians' get it wrong. At the beginning of this century a student of history would have been expected to be familiar with Homer's The Iliad and The Odyssey, the Greek writings of Herodotus and Thucydides, Caesar's Gallic Wars, the Roman authors Livy, Tacitus, and Suetonius, the Old and New Testaments, and the epic Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbons.Maybe a further reading list of historical documents and treaties, a smattering of various sacred texts, and the works of Macaulay, Hume, and Toynbee would bring the student closer to solid grasp of written history.And then, spanning a 40 year period which comprised the middle of this century, we would expect a student to read Will and Ariel Durant's 11 volume The Story of Civilization (published between 1935 and 1975). Many other published histories, both scholarly and popular, have contributed to our better understanding of the past, but in recent years we have seen 'history' move closer to the level of a 'scientific discipline', and farther away from a tale well told.History has changed from a narrative reconstruction to an analytical assessment, and some would like to see it change even more. I initially became aware of the 'new' history with the release of Fernand Braudel's The Structure of Everyday Life (vol. 1 of his 3 vols. Civilization and Capitalism: 15th - 18th Century, New York: Harper Row, 1981-1984).In much the same way as archaeology matured in the late 60s and early 70s with the utilization of dendrochronology with carbon-dating, implementing a multi-disciplinary approach by inviting the participation of botanists, linguists, and other professionals, and basically changing from the adventure-charged model suitable for a Howard Carter or Indiana Jones, to a near-science of demanding exactitude, Braudel was the first (in my humble opinion) to optimize the potential available for the 'new' history.His efforts are inspiring in their accomplishment and serve as a gauge which future histories will be measured against. Not content to simply give the standard dates of this death or that war, Braudel siezes his subject firmly and masterfully addresses the misery of common economic life, subsistence agriculture and diet, available technology, disease and its transmission, and on and on. [Note: For a small sampling of Braudel's details in The Structure of Everyday Life, click here .]Enabled with such thoroughness a student of history may understand the subject with causal explanations instead of simply repeating who, what, and when.The 'new' history provides a 'why'. Besides improved methodology historians have also benefited from such advances in technology as numerous dating techniques and genetic testing. The recalibration of radio-carbon dating pushed back many Bronze Age and Neolithic sites by hundreds and, in some cases, almost two thousand years. Our ability to test DNA cleared up the Romanov mystery, has recently provided insights into the sex lives of Washington, Jefferson, and last week was being threatened against President Clinton and the long-alleged relationship with young Danny Williams, a la the novel and film Primary Colors, but the DNA test proved Clinton was not the father. Besides
[CTRL] whoops
-Caveat Lector- I just opened my mail..and what was meant to go privately to a person went to the list. Please excuse it, won't happen again..(I hope) Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Republic of Oz: The Show Must Go On
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:477446"The Republic of Oz: The Show Must Go On/A - Subject: The Republic of Oz: The Show Must Go On From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Max Kennedy) Date: Mon, Jan 11, 1999 5:59 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It Sucks The Great Blowjob in the Sky Scandal Ive followed the assorted scandals of the last eight or so years very closely. The last time I checked, I had 20,000+ posts, almost all of them crossposted to alt.conspiracy and alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater. Some of these posts may have been cleaned out of Dejanews archives since they were made. Having been too deeply involved in the Conspiracy Theory world, I now know its all bullshit. If I had any doubts, it was confirmed by the Great Blowjob in the Sky scandal. This post will continue to grow, like a huge cock in the sky, as I flesh out the details. I originally wrote this as one long post, but decided instead to slowly increase the size of it as this naked circus continues. I only hope Lewinsky is personally interviewed by all 100 Senators, then it may get very large indeed. Colby Colby was one of my first attempts to post an *original* conspiracy theory. It was largely a sarcastic piece entitled Tip-a-canoe and Colby too. It worked. I also was giving information to Jim Quinn and getting replies as he asked questions to Christopher Ruddy about Colbys death on the air and in *real time*.Quinn runs the most popular talkshow in Pittsburgh, and Ruddy works for the Pittsburgh-Tribune and Scaife. Ruddy seemed surprised to be interviewed about it, but mentioned Quinn in his article he later wrote about Colby's death. Quinn never attributes his listeners even if he reads an entire (script) word for word. http://www.warroom.com/index.stm http://www.newsmax.com/ http://www.ruddynews.com/ http://www.triblive.com/ruddy/foster.html This is the first time I had doubts about what I read from reporters like Christopher Ruddy. I won't bore you with pages of similar incidents right now. We have many weeks yet to go! Was it really what they had discovered, or were they just coming up with facts supporting what people already were predisposed to believe? I dont know if anyone else was wrong, but I do detect cookie crumbs on my fingertips as I write this, and I also note there are no cookies left in the cookie jar. Ron Brown went down. It was suspicious.Ron Brown was heavily into DNC financing and was under investigation,. It was a conspiracy theory that was bound to take off. I threw my hat in, and so did many other people. The conspiracies continued.Boorda offed himself, I made the rounds with a conspiracy theory. Hillary Clinton was caught trying to talk to Eleanor Roosevelt with the help of Jean Houston. It was a good excuse to talk about dancing and trance states, LSD, and "mystery schools". Jean Houstons husband threatened to sue me if I kept it up. It died out on its own, else I would have gone down in a mire of personal glory and lawsuits. However, I was wrong for any pain I caused. I didnt use to care. TWA800 was a hotplate pretending to be a cookie jar..It was the third interesting plane crash in as many months. Since I was still unsure how much of my conspiracy theorizing was "real" or "prophecy", and how much of it was simply being confirmed by (someone) polling opinions on the internet and reporting facts to support useful opinions found, I decided to get in on the ground floor on TWA800 and start creating. http://www.iglou.com/homepages/mkennedy/twa2.html I went through the passenger list with a fine tooth comb. Out of all the passengers on the list, the odds of someone interesting being on that plane for a conspiracy theory were pretty good. Charles Betty was my candidate as an engineer for the Aegis missile system.It tied into the current missile theories, although a standard missile is a "little" large. http://www.iglou.com/homepages/mkennedy/twa2.html It worked. I saw the Aegis theory take root. It even made it into a book, the downing of TWA800, but by that time Charles Beatty had been filed off of the original theory. No matter, by this time George Magazine in their 1996 December issue had mentioned me as one of the more reasonable conspiracy theorists in connection with TWA800. Someone working for George Magazine is pretty astute. Of course Im reasonable about what I am selling. I recall the magazine had a big cover of an angel with strap ons, with the words, What Does America Believe?The challenge had been laid. http://www.iglou.com/homepages/mkennedy/george.html At this point I still didnt want to believe that we had, as one poster on the internet noted at the time, a feedback loop.It is now clear to me we did. Im not saying there isnt a lot of examples of government officials
[CTRL] January 1999 Paradigm Shift
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.illuminati:57508"January 1999 Paradigm Shift!/A - Subject: January 1999 Paradigm Shift! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PStuart) Date: Sat, Jan 9, 1999 4:56 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, it happened again! Somehow, we've cast another issue of Paradigm Shift, the journal of Magick, Music, and Media, in glorious, low-tech HTML. http://members.aol.com/para93/ The January 1999 issue features: * Paul Krassner on humor and liberated communication * Erik Davis on Philip K. Dick * Philip H. Farber on a new system of neurolinguistic magick * Aaron Leitch on the Modern Occult Tradition * Jim Donovan of Rusted Root on music and altered states * Black Tape for a Blue Girl * John Densmore of The Doors on Jim Morrison and psychedelics * Robert Anton Wilson's Links for Stoned Surfing * Fallen, a mind-blowing novel by James Curcio Plus... All new poetry, incredible visual art, short stories, and much more... That URL again: http://members.aol.com/para93/ - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] C A V E R N S,]
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- snip Bob, This is a chapter in the book: "COSMIC CONFLICT THE DA'ATH WARS", Vol. 2, Edition 1.2 -- by Branton snip All these -- and several other, similar -- books are available at various sites -- almost as if they were written by a committee of propaganda artists as the basis of a New Age UFO / Occult religion (or anti-religion). They almost seem similar to the 'channelings' of 'discarnate entities', such as those who 'wrote' Alice Bailey's Theosophical Society manifestoes which demand a United Nations, and the end of all traditional Christianity, Judaim, and Islam. Theosophy's founder, Madame Helena P. Blavatsky, was a compatriot of the Freemason, General Albert Pike, who proposed (in about 1870) a future World War III -- between Zionists and Arabs -- in order to exterminate the believers in the three Western, Patriarchal religions who were unwilling to accept the new Enlightened One World Religion of Lucifer. Later, Alice Bailey, who succeeded Blavatsky (and Annie Besant) as the leader of the Theosophical Society, wrote that nuclear weapons were "a blessing in disguise" -- and would be used, if necessary, by the United Nations to exterminate the believers in the Western religions. Theosophy is a Buddist- type belief. Adolph Hitler (Thule Society) was a disciple of Blavatsky's 'Theosophical' Aryan Race philosophy from the Great White Brotherhood from Atlantis. Today, the Great White Brotherhood allegedly lives in the underground cities of Argatha and Shamballah (in Tibet). Will they have a Year 2000 coming out party ? Will they attend the lowering of the Golden Capstone (the Eye of Lucifer) on the Great Pyramid at Giza ? --Bill Thanks, Bill! IIRC, I found this on a server in Iceland...but for some reason the URL wouldn't post. Branton's stuff has puzzled me for years--I can't quite figure out his/their agenda. The Theosophical Society parallel is an intriguing idea; if the "Akashic Record", Shamballa, etc., were the New Age gospel for an era wrapped up in the search for a universal religion, then it makes sense that the Nineties' equivalent should feature political paranoia, alien invaders, and underground military bases, with a few Nazis thrown in for good measure... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- Laura, You raise an interesting point. However, I must argue that the comparison of mime to x-rated movies doesn't hold much water. I admit to being a little confused by this approach. How did you reach this conclusion? If I want to see a film of that type, I have to get in my car, drive to a video store, walk behind the groovy beaded curtain and pay for my selection. It is a conscious decision on my part. However, a mime just comes up to you without your consent or invitation and assaults your senses with a barrage of cheap laughs and minimalist entertainment. As for the message, an x-rated film's is pretty simple. "Get your rocks off cheap!". A mime has no message. He or she is just a talentless hack who's foisting off a dying art form on you in hopes of procuring spare change. In addition, from a sociological point of view, mimes don't have a leg to stand on against x-rated entertainment. The reason being, is that if you lined up a group of people outside of two rooms, and behind one door was a screening room showing a "blue movie", and behind the other door was a mime, I would be willing to bet that room #2 would be stark empty! Not that I'm endorsing x-rated entertainment per say, but you and I know human nature well enough to agree that most people (men and women) would take nudity and sex over some creep on a unicycle. That is quite interesting about the Clintons. Although it doesn't really surprise me. Take care, Jeremy -- From: L. Shipton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- Hey this sounds like what they pass off as Art in Washington. Hillary backs x-rated movies and they give money to the arts to make them too. Change the props " annoying props (whistles, balloons, etc.). " and the costumes or lack there if (if you do not count handcuffs or what ever they use) and I guess you have mimes. Wonder what their (the x-rated movies) message is? I will take the mimes. Laura oh yes, documentation the Clintons support of this art form is in the Archives. Personally, I like France. -Original Message- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- lol Carlene, I appreciate your interest in my take on the French "culture". I must confess, I have no hard evidence to support the statement that the buttocks of the average Frenchman are indeed physically capable of playing any bellows-driven instrument. Okay...when you find some documentation on this let me know. However, I can attest that wherever you walk on the cruddy streets of Paris, you CONSTANTLY hear that goddamn accordion music playing. Wait a second why is it god@@@ accordian music up here in Wisconsin we have that for our polkas, is that godd@@ as well ? Now you will have to substantiate what is and what isn't god@@@ and please include the criteria of what makes something god@@@ or notOkay ? Regarding the chef's hat theorem... If you take your average chef's hat, and then wereto compress it maniacally down on your head,===: THE BERET! Now that you mention it...it could be a beret...okay will let that one pass, we have to be careful with this documentation here. Lastly, the phrase "mime sucks ass" is not merely an observation or a statement of vitriol. It is a bona fide fact. Let us examine the harsh truths of mime, and together we will learn why it does indeed suck ass. 1) Mimes wear tight pants, horizontal striped shirts, and suspenders. - Conclusion: If an art form requires you to dress like a jerk, it sucks ass. 2) Mimes paint their faces stark white with that stupid teardrop on their cheek. - Conclusion: Face painting sucks ass. Mime employs face painting. Therefore, mime sucks ass. 3) Mimes do stupid and annoying hand and body motions and try to pass it off as art. - Now, if they really wereclimbing a mountain in a windstorm, that would be entertaining. There isalso the chance that they would be blown off the mountain. One less mime. Conclusion - Waving your hands around like a fan dancer with the DTs and calling it art sucks ass. 4) Mime bother people on the street and occasionally employ annoying props (whistles, balloons, etc.). - Conclusion: Annoying innocent bystanders with loud sounds and second-rate entertainment sucks ass. There you have it, my friend. In a nutshell, the reasons why mime sucks ass. Loved it !!! ROFLAO Okay, pretty good documentation but is it a documentation of opinion or fact. G I look forward to reading your other posts, but please remember to documentate. G Carlene DECLARATION
Re: [CTRL] Ecstasy Prozac (The Economist)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 7:19:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, when Calvinists ask if people taking Prozac to eliminate elements of their personalities, such as shyness, is so very far removed from the recreational use of ecstasy, the answer appears to be "no". I have long suspected that the reason the ruling elites ban all mind altering drugs and not just the harmful ones is that they fear that people will come to realize that although we live in a democracy, the opinions and well being of the majority doesn't seem to matter. People might get wise to the strange notion that our young men should fight in wars that don't make sense, or that the ever growing income/welath gap is not just or that our ruling elites are not only not endowed with any particular wisdom but that through the highly controlled mainstream media, we are manipulated and kept in the dark. It has been said that if you have a gross of eggs, you may sort them according to size or color or place them into various layouts. But if the eggs ever hatch, you have a problem. Drugs are not necessarily a good thing in all/most/any cases, but IMO they are viewed as a threat in terms of hatching power, i.e. in terms of people realizing their own authority. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation
-Caveat Lector- I began training at three and four for picking beans and berries. By five, I operated a tractor pulling sleds in the fields. By Six, I could cut a 400 acre field of corn stalks in two days operating from sun to sun. I began training in the blacksmith shop at seven, making barrel staves and rings. If you planned on eating, you had to work. Jim norman "Carlene M. Wojahn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- The slave narratives are not about feelings. They are matter of fact in tone and the descriptions of conditions are well buttressed by related events. It is all but mind numbingly horrific to realize how these folks lived. It's true that they were in their teens but in those conditions, work began in earnest at age 7 or 8. My grandpa died when my dad was 5...he started selling papers then..there were thirteen in the house...children and they all contrubuted...a brother of mine started at 9and guess what they weren't slaves nor were they black. The slaves were adults in their teen years. Actually, even when i lived through the adolescent years during the 1940s, You were expected to be a fully functioning and responsible adult by age 18 during the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s. No earlier right after they graduated from eighth grade.. Carlene DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a different sense of perspective. Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and silly to the mature and refined. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- Sure ... all perpetrators of crimes should be dealt with on an equal basis. Unless: there is a predilection for criminal types to *target* certain groups more than others (i.e., do hate crimes represent a higher percentage within a certain category of crime?). Robbery of a "moneyed" person might be demonstration of negative vibes for "moneyed" people, sort of a "Robin Hood" theme without altruistic motives. One thing that I read in USA Today was concerning the torching of houses of worship. I had been led to believe (to that point) that certain groups' (ethnic) houses were being torched to the exclusion of tohers. Along comes USA Today and points out that more European-American chruches were being turned to ash and cinder than those of African-American. So, I became confused as to where the "hate" was directed. This became even more misleading when federal funding was set aside to apparently assist one of the groups rebuild. So, in conclusion, Sure ... all perpetrators of crimes should be dealt with on an equal basis according to crime(s) committed. So add to '... religion, race, creed ...' "crime" ... From web-cln.com Picture: News Church burnings a conspiracy? A report released last week by the Center for Democratic Renewal, an Atlanta-based organization that tracks race- and hate-based crime, included warnings of a racist conspiracy in its overview of arson fires and bombings at 211 churches serving black and multiracial congregations between 1990 and 1997. The report, The Fourth Wave: A Continuing Conspiracy to Burn Black Churches, cites South Carolina as the focal point of "a conspiracy by white supremacists to burn black churches for the purpose of starting a race war." The attacks, says the CDR, have resulted in more than $25 million in damages, and affected more than 20,000 people. "We recognize ... that white churches are burning nearly five times as often as black churches," says the report, but in those cases, "anti-religious sentiment and/or personal motivation are most often the leading factors." The "Fourth Wave" is a reference to four periods of black-church burnings since Reconstruction. Perpetrators, according to CDR research, are generally white males, aged 14 to 45, traveling in groups of two to five and working at night. But the "backbone" of the conspiracy, according the report's authors, are older white supremacists who enlist young men to carry out the burnings. More than half of the 52 arrests in the cases thus far, it notes, have been juveniles. The report also says a hindrance to the investigations have been local police and fire officials' reluctance to address racial motivations, and says evidence of involvement by white volunteer firefighters in some of the fires has been "minimized by local law enforcement and some state prosecutors." A multi-agency task force investigating the arsons has so far failed to find any evidence linking more than two or three of the cases. And Dr. Ozell Sutton, regional director for the U.S. Justice Department's Community Relations Division, says his field workers have uncovered no evidence of a wide-ranging conspiracy, in South Carolina or anywhere else. "We've found a couple that may have been linked, says Sutton. "But, from my perspective, it's the lack of any real conspiracy that makes it even more onerous. If there's this level of racial hatred out there driving individuals to carry out these burnings, it's even more difficult to deal with." One person may have died as a result of the fires: 23-year-old Peter Adams, to whom the CDR. report is dedicated, died in a Feb. 25, 1995 blaze at South Richland Bibleway, in Lexington County, S.C. No investigation into the fire's cause or Adams' death was ever conducted, says the CDR. -- Greg Land Picture: [ Directory Imagemap II ] Copyright 1997 by Creative Loafing | Published Mar 22, 1997 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] From ConsumerAlert.CoM Church-Burning Hoax Pays Huge Dividends Michael Fumento It appears that the public may be finally catching on that the black church-burning epidemic of 1996 is actually one of the biggest hoaxes to come along in years. It's also turning out to be one of the most lucrative for the people who started it. We've all seen such headlines as "Flames of Hate: Racism Blamed in Shock Wave of Church Burnings,""A Southern Plague Returns," and "The South is Burning: A Rash of Torchings at Black Churches Has Resurrected the Ugly Specter of Racism." In fact, independent investigations by several reporters, including those at the Associated Press, The New Yorker, USA Today, and myself in a piece for the Wall Street Journal, have revealed no plague and little evidence of racism. Despite claims that the "epidemic of hatred" began in 1994, the only increase came in 1996. This increase was the result of two factors: better reporting of a crime that like all crimes is normally underreported, and copycat fires by arsonists who (as some openly
Re: [CTRL] Impeachment and Clinton
-Caveat Lector- HOAX IMPEACHMENT TRIAL Don't hold your breath, soon you will see a mock event that will be used to make the stupid segment of society believe an actual impeachment trial is going on. It will be just like professional wrestling filled with rehearsed moves ... Oh, oh they have the president down and he is about to be pinned splat, pow he is up and in the end part of the act is clinton's triumph against great odds. Expecting crooked politicians to up hold the law is but a joke, so don't join the ranks of the stupid. Let them know before their coming mock trial will appease the stupid, but they are but mob party bosses who's show will be used to obstruct justice and protect their criminals party partner. Instead of being stupid enough to believe the party mob is about to uphold the law, send them a post (similar to the one below) letting them know we know exactly what they are about to do. Send it to every news agency, every politician and especially the family members of the senators. Let them know what kind of dishonorable liar and crook their little senators are. They will continue to use phrases like "They want to do what is best for America" and what is "best for America" just happens to be what is best for the democrats party mob... What is "best for America" is to let a felon and sex molester remain in office, so the democratic party is not embarrassed. They will continue to use such words.. "they are taking care of America", when in fact their only goal is to save their own party ass. Allowing criminals to hold high office is not what is best for any nation, but to the contrary. Allowing criminals to hold public office is but an evil cancer that will destroy a nation from the inside out. Allowing criminals to hold office, is what is best for criminal mob families. PREPARE FOR THE MOCK IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1) If a politician does the same things others are branded as criminals for, then why isn't that politician a criminal? 2) Has Clinton committed the VERY SAME ACTS that other citizens have been branded criminals/felons for? 3) Unless these "honorable senators" are dishonorable liars, it is not their own opinions they will use in deciding the fate of Clinton. Every senator took an oath to uphold the laws of the land and the law specifies IMPEACHMENT as the stated punishment. In federal law, there are no degrees in felonies. Crimes come in two categories, misdemeanors and felonies. Misdemeanors are low crimes and felonies are high crimes. 4) Obstruction of justice, perjury ... tell me Mr. Senator are these misdemeanors/low crimes or are they felonies/high crimes? Now because democrats are going to cover up for their criminal partner and because the republicans are afraid to lose power and money, we are about to have a mock trial. The end results will be another politician joke on the American people. 5) Tell me Mr Senator, is there one law for the politicians and another law for the village idiots? If not, as soon as you slap clinton on the wrist are you going to release every citizen who is in prison on perjury and/or obstruction charges? Are you going to strip all the obstruction and perjury laws from the books, so no other citizen can be persecuted for the very same things you are about to free clinton for? No, you do not believe in equal justice for politicians and the people. You are about to put on a sham trial for show and tell and then flip the finger at the laws you took an oath to uphold. CHESTER THE MOLESTER FOR PRESIDENT One a talk show, Jones described how Clinton ran his hand up her ... and then pulled out his ... for her to suck. If she lied, then why doesn't Clinton sue her for liable? Ask Clinton and Jones if they will take a polygraph test and see who will come. We have heard of Clinton's patsies rave on the great mind and memory of Clinton and yet this great mind "couldn't remember who Jones was". Hustler magazine used to have a cartoon about Chester The Molester. I have seen the publisher of Hustler magazine on talk shows defending Chester Clinton. Reno wasn't Clinton's first choice was she? If I remember right the first "judge" Clinton chose was a woman who posed naked in a magazine. What was clinton's "bimbo control staff" set up for? Other than the published case, how many dozens more UNWILLING women has chester the molester clinton grabbed? Tell me how it is that other men who sexually assault women like Clinton are required to register as sex predators ... and yet this sex molester is held as some great honorable president? IF Clinton wasn't a powerful politician and he would have grabbed the daughter of any of his PRESENT SUPPORTERS, then pulled out his for them to suck, he would have been jailed, fined and or sued. If it were the daughter of his present day supporters, they would probably have knocked the hell out of him.
[CTRL] Is this really 1928?
-Caveat Lector-
Is 'broadcast.com" owned by a Republicrat (able to make a big deal out of
nuttin' ?)
From wsws.org
WSWS : News Analysis : North America : US Economy
What is fueling the Internet stocks' bubble?
By James Brookfield
12 January, 1999
The 1999 opening week on Wall Street saw skyrocketing share prices for a
number of Internet-related companies. While to a certain extent this jump
continued the late-1998 trend and mirrored the rise in the market as a
whole following the autumn interest rate cuts, it has taken on a phenomenal
character.
Last week share prices rose 10, 20, even up to 50 percent in a single day
for a number of companies. It is not unusual to find Internet firms--Yahoo,
the popular search Web site; and Amazon, the bookseller, for example--whose
stock prices have quadrupled since September. The overall market
capitalization figures have correspondingly gone through the roof. America
Online, the popular online service, for example, has seen its price more
than triple during this time, giving it a larger capitalization than
General Motors.
Why are the prices of the Internet stocks soaring? To find out, I examined
one of last week's heavily traded companies, broadcast.com, which bills
itself as the "leading aggregator and broadcaster of streaming media
programming on the Web." Broadcast.com held its initial public offering on
the NASDAQ exchange last July. In September its stock fell from the mid-60s
to the low-30s, only to skyrocket to 100 at the end of the year. Last
Friday it rose from 132 to 197, a jump of 50 percent. Panicked NASDAQ
officials stopped trading and tried to get an explanation from the company,
which could offer none. On Monday, after the company announced a
two-for-one stock split, its price climbed to 278, a 40 percent gain.
Broadcast.com is little more than a name, a company in search of a
business. Its web site is limited, almost amateurish. It produces nothing
itself (it relies on "content providers" in Internet lingo). It simply
plays ("streams" to use the jargon again) low-quality audio and video
generated by other companies (radio stations, CSPAN, etc). The most recent
of its "Current Events" is a speech given by Sandy Berger, the US National
Security Advisor, on December 23, i.e., more than two and a half weeks ago.
Even with a high-speed modem the picture is choppy, hardly a surprise given
the still limited technology of Internet video.
The company's most recent filing with the Securities and Exchange
Commission is a revealing document. "The Company has incurred significant
losses since its inception and, as of September 30, 1998, had an
accumulated deficit of approximately $20.2 million." In the first nine
months of 1998 it had revenues of $11.4 million, a figure that, within the
framework of US capitalism, puts it in the category of small- to
medium-size businesses, a group encompassing tens of thousands of generally
struggling firms. The company spent $23.1 million in the same period, a
figure twice the size of its revenues. Nevertheless, Monday's closing price
gives the company a market capitalization ($4.873 billion) larger than
Wendy's ($2.831 billion), which has annual earnings of $100 million and
47,000 employees, and more than half that of Delta Airlines ($8.282
billion) which has annual earnings of nearly $1 billion and 70,000
employees.
Broadcast.com's losses, even the company admits, will continue. It's SEC
filing states: "The Company expects to incur substantial operating losses
for the foreseeable future." Are there plans to cut back? "The Company
expanded from fewer than 10 employees on September 20, 1995, to 225
employees on October 31, 1998, and the Company expects to increase its
personnel significantly in the near future." It goes on: "The Company
currently intends to increase substantially its operating expenses in order
to, among other things, (i) expand its distribution network capacity, (ii)
fund increased sales and marketing activities, (iii) acquire additional
content, (iv) develop and upgrade technology and (v) purchase equipment for
its operations."
The long-term outlook is also highly questionable. "There can be no
assurance that the company will ever achieve profitability or, if
profitability is achieved, that it can be sustained." The SEC filing adds
that the company's agreements with its program providers are nonexclusive,
i.e., broadcast.com can be underbid. Most of the company's revenue is from
short-term advertising on its web site and radio and TV. There is no
guarantee that their site will ever be widely used. "It is not known
whether businesses and other organizations will utilize the Internet to any
significant degree as a means of broadcasting business and other events."
And finally there are the internal problems, including: that nearly all the
senior management just joined the company, that nearly all of its equipment
is in a single location with no backups maintained, that it may not be able
to handle
[CTRL] The Gets and Get Nots
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : North America Winter storm exposes social chasm in Detroit City services at standstill one week later By Walter Gilberti 12 January, 1999 The aftermath of the snowstorm that dropped more than a foot of snow in the Detroit area January 2-3 has revealed the social chasm separating the administration of Mayor Dennis Archer and the Detroit City Council from the majority of workers and poor in the city. After the passage of more than a week, basic services for most Detroit residents remain at a virtual standstill. The majority of the city's residential streets are still snow covered and impassable. With a population of nearly 1 million, Detroit only has 59 trucks to plow city streets. By contrast Milwaukee, Wisconsin, with two-thirds the population, operates 400 plows, clearing and salting every main and residential street. To add to the misery of residents, in the frigid cold weather that has followed the storm close to 100 water mains have burst, turning many city streets into icy waterways. Water department officials have blamed substandard pipes purchased from France--in the 1920s and 30s--for the problem. With more snow on the way, conditions for many elderly and poor have become desperate. The ability of firefighters and emergency medical technicians to respond to calls, with services already decimated by prior budget cuts, has been further hampered by the refusal of the city to remove snow from most residential streets. On many streets fire hydrants remain buried in snow. In a city where deadly house fires are an all too frequent occurrence, like the one that killed six children last December 27, many more families are now at risk. Detroit public schools, which had been closed since the storm hit, were finally allowed to open last Friday. However the vast majority of the city's 180,000 students still cannot get to school. Friday's attendance was barely measurable, revealing that the decision to open the schools was motivated by political considerations aimed at creating the illusion of a return to normal. For many students the attempt to attend school is still a dangerous undertaking. The snow-clogged streets have halted school bus transportation, leaving many children no alternative but to traverse slippery and unshoveled sidewalks, or risk life and limb by walking in the streets. Democratic Mayor Archer continues to defend the city's policy, begun 15 years ago under the Coleman Young administration, of not removing snow from the streets in residential neighborhoods. It was only last Wednesday, four days after the snowfall, that Mayor Archer even considered declaring a "snow emergency." Archer had initially refused, claiming that there was no problem with the major streets, declaring: "I do not accept responsibility for what the good Lord has put on us by way of snow." He called on neighborhood block clubs and volunteers to clear the streets. It should be noted that the streets were plowed and cleared of snow in the mayor's neighborhood, around the Manooghian Mansion. Last Thursday, however, clearly more concerned about the city's "image" than the plight of its residents, Archer was compelled to take some action. Confronted by increased media criticism, and with the opening of the International Auto Show and a visit by President Clinton imminent, Archer announced that the city would seek outside assistance in an attempt to clear the streets. The city is also considering the exploitation of convict labor. Misdemeanor offenders have already been used for snow removal in some neighboring municipalities. Meanwhile, local newspaper editorials moved to defend the mayor, shifting responsibility for the debacle onto city workers' unions, and claiming that the only solution is the privatization of services. Yet the fact remains that the Archer administration has long been oriented toward the construction of gambling casinos and a new baseball stadium, while turning its back on the urgent need to improve city services through the hiring of additional employees and the purchasing of badly needed equipment. Less than a month ago, Archer, echoing the sentiments of Michigan Governor John Engler, had launched into a tirade about Detroit's public schools. At the time, Archer threatened to support having parents or the state take over nonperforming schools. See Also: US blizzard, cold wave hit the poor [6 January 1999] Detroit fire death toll at 79 Blaze kills six children in Detroit working class neighborhood [31 December 1998] House fires during the holidays kill scores of people acrosss the US [31 December 1998] Fire related deaths in the Motor City approach 70 for 1998 Detroit firefighters lack equipment and manpower [24 December 1998] Top of page Readers: The WSWS invites your comments. Please send e-mail. Copyright 1998-99 World Socialist Web Site All rights reserved
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- Jerry, Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont! Who do you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't? Like you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few goofy e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking personal shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG It's people like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one of those people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some kids smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let me give you a little SAT lingo - You are to fun as water is to fire. L I G H T E N U P, you'll live longer. -- From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!] -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a different sense of perspective. Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and silly to the mature and refined. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 9:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MJ: While the conclusion may or may NOT be true [cause], what exactly makes the muder of an individual within a 'protected' group WORSE than the murder of some other individual? Yes, murder is murder and the US murder statistics stand out like a malignant cancer. The extreme right wing hate mongers have so many reason and excuses for violence that it is astounding. Bob Grant, Rush, Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy and others give us more daily. The hate murder is unique in motivation because it is not based upon some twisted notion of benefiting oneself. It is based upon the absurd notion that certain groups, who do not harm other, are intrinsically evil so that one is justified before God and right thinking people for killing this person(s). Of course, those who encourage such action obviously bear some measure of responsibility. Even if such creatures as Bob Grant sincerely believe that they have some special role in helping to eliminate homosexuals, i.e. even if they are completely insane, it does not exonerate them from their responsibility to meet the natural requirements of courtesy, respect, and tolerance for others that living in a democratic civil society entails. Would any robbery be a 'hate crime' since the perpetrator most certainly 'hates' 'rich people'. This statement does not make sense. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rolling Stone Magazine Was Bribed
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Blacklisted News, Secret History . . . From Chicago, '68, to 1984 ©1983 Youth International Party Information Service Bleecker Publishing POB 392 Canal St. Station New York, NY 10012 ISBN 0-912873-00-0 - ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE WAS BRIBED TO 'KNOCK CHICAGO PROTESTS "We always knew something like this was going on," said Abbie, examining the galleys for the newest Yippie book at the OVERTHROW offices, "but, we couldn't prove it." Of all the later revelations about Chicago, this one was the most important, because the same Xerox, Palevsky, Warner Bros. crew are all continuously emerging, all during the decade, all thru this book, as a key nexus of liberal control-the advance guard of cultural reaction. Like the other selections here, this story is positioned for the sake of the narrative; publication date is noted at the end of most articles. by Mike Chance Rolling Stone magazine was paid $100,000 in the spring of 1968 by the Xerox Corporation in return for a pledge not to support leftist demonstrations at the Chicago National Presidential Conventions that summer. The loan prevented the collapse of Rolling Stone. Rolling Stone, for its part of the arrangement, published several editorials decrying the "Festival of Life" and urging demonstrators to stay away from the convention. After the convention the editorials blamed the demonstrators for causing the trouble. The revelations were made by Ms. Susan Lydon to Yipster Times. Ms. Lydon is one of five principals who formed Rolling Stone when it began in the summer of 1967, along with her husband, rock critic Michael Lydon, Ralph Gleason, Jann Wenner and one other person whose name was unavailable at time of publication. Ms. Lydon and her husband had previously worked for the radical publication Ramparts. After the sell-out, Ms. Lydon left Rolling Stone for "personal and political disagreements with Jann Wenner." Ms. Lydon, who has also worked for Ms. magazine and numerous other popular publications, is currently in the public relations staff of the Arica Institute, a popular psychic growth movement. At the time the loan was made "sometime in the spring of 1968," the Rolling Stone magazine was staffed with leftist-oriented writers. Big names not only from Ramparts but from the relatively new Berkeley Barb and San Francisco Oracle were pouring articles on rock culture into Rolling Stone. The sudden declaration by Jann Wenner in the editorial section of the paper in May of 1966, two months before the convention, that "rock music and confrontation politics don't mix," was greeted with massive disapproval from the burgeoning left. Despite persistent rumors of a sell-out by someone at the highest managerial levels of Rolling Stone, there had been no confirmation until Ms. Lydon's statement. Max Palevsky, Xerox magnate, has been a Rolling Stone backer. It is known that he has personal holdings in the corporation. Palevsky, a liberal Democrat who backed McGovern in 1972 until the Miami Convention, at which time he quickly backed out of his commitments. This extent of his political dealings and their effect on Rolling Stone's politics has long been a subject of discussion among media observers. Insiders at Rolling Stone, and outsiders, have frequently accused Rolling Stone of getting its initial successful impetus from a shady deal. The most common story circulated had it that Warner Communications had struck the deal for $100,000 in the fall of 1970. (See March, 1976, YT). Warner Communications had pulled several culture ripoffs, including the ill-fated "Medicine Ball Caravan." At the time of the alleged 1968 loan, according to Ms. Lydon, Rolling Stone "was on the brink of bankruptcy." Circulation for the paper had begun to drop after the first few months, and major distributors refused to touch it. Without the loan the paper would have folded within weeks. After the Chicago Convention and Rolling Stone's attacks on the left, corporate record ad accounts began to soar for the hard pressed rag. Within a few months it was on its way to being the most successful magazine of the decade. Ramparts magazine, which took no Xerox bribes, has since folded. YIPster Times, June 76 = JANN WENNER BI0 by Aron Kay "The YIP protest-in methods and means-is as corrupt as the political machine it hopes to disrupt." _Rolling Stone Magazine Editor Jann Wenner on May 11, 1968 "Rock writing at one time attracted some of the brightest talents of the Sixties generation of writers; it now is obvious that it draws only opportunists. "There have been numerous instances of pressure applied by record companies to get a certain performer on the cover of a certain magazine strictly on the basis of advertising volume, of pressure applied by magazines to obtain advertising, of pressure applied by writers to obtain junkets, of performers threatening or assaulting writers ... The record industry does exert a great deal of influence and can-and
Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- I read my post and saw that I did not make it clear enough. The Society of The Arts or something like that is funded with our tax dollars and the Clintons (particually Hillary) believes that Homosexual movies are a art form. Below is my take on this. from http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/EducationReligionandPropoganda.htm What is a partnership? Maybe I should start off with asking what is sex? What is your basic definition of sex? A sport or a art? For the answer to this one let us check out the government and what they spend our tax dollars on as well as the basic definition of art and sport. Does the government underwrite football as a art? No. Does it underwrite Wrestling as a art? No. Both of these are contact sports and they do not come under the heading of Art. Does it underwrite Ice Skating? No. but Ice Skating is very close to a art! The interest that we have in Partners that Ice Dance is amazing, or is it? It is not what you do once you get there, that is something that is easy to find out. It is in the dance - how you get there that is a art. Now comes the kicker, did you know that your federal government underwrites X-rated movies as a art form? Lesbians saying why they should not kill their lovers (wish I could remember that whole thing) and other forms of "sex." It is not that I have issue with who is doing what to whom - as long as they are consenting adults and that they respect the fact that I am not interested in it. What I do take exception to is the fact that this contact SPORT is being underwritten by our ART foundation as a ART. Now to get picky about this. True artists normally want a audience and to create a following so that they will make money. They have agents so that as they become more popular someone else will be there to handle the bookings and to read the contracts so that their rights are upheld. They also have insurance in case they are hurt and can not work. So they do take exception to being hurt or maimed - it might make what they have (themselves) less marketable. Sex movies and I am talking about all of them here, not just the ones that the government is underwriting, should follow the same rules (for actors and actresses) as any other movie. Basic rules seem to be 1) do not harm living things 2) since you are a marketable item, take care of yourself. The fact that these are followed can be seen in such movies as Arachnophobia and Ben. In Arachnophobia the (dog gone) spiders were not allowed to be hurt and in Ben every scene with Rats had to be OK'ed. The animals had agents? Maybe they had those to, but they definitely had the SPCA and Human Society as well as the insurance company that the film had hired. I recently received a e-mail advertising a movie about a woman that had broken a record. Something about a 100 men in 24 hours. Granted it implied that she was taking care of more that one at a time but I did the math and wondered. A actress in a movie is careful of her assets and if a horse is in a movie they check for saddle chaffing. Should we require less of these movies which seem to show how some (should) have sex? She had to possibly be chaffed, wonder if her agent was even worried? The Eviel Kanevel of the sex world? Well we do not underwrite him as art either. Let's get back to that chaffing. If her agent is not going to watch out for her interests then maybe we need to have the SPCA do it. We should have our artists aspire to at least be at the level of animals. Even if they are not being treated as humans they can at least have the protection that we would afford a Spider or a Rat...since you could get hurt in even normal sex. Would be nice if they were treated as humans, they might even act like ones. Now as to the Lesbian and Homosexual movies that our art dollars are subsidizing too. Well, the SPCA might be applicable there as well. I imagine that there is some abuse and chaffing that might need to be looked into and checked on. Well, if sex is a sport then the practice of this sport is not what a normal partnership is about. Unless you consider partnership and collaboration a sport to. I personally consider those things to be arts. It should take a lot longer to get to that horizontal dance, then it does to do it. If that is the case, then where do you practice if you want a relationship to work? It is not in the bedroom, even the best sport has a schematic or choreographer and if you can not work as a partner ship outside of the bedroom then your partnership in the bedroom will probably suffer as well. Still and all (most) males are used to practicing the physical aspects of things. Also many would be good players on the field but lousy coaches or owners of a team. When you get married, do you want a player from the field or someone that is able to see the plays that are happening and capable of working with you to win the game (the marriage) in and
[CTRL] Turkey: 01-12
-Caveat Lector- From Int'l Herald Tribune Paris, Tuesday, January 12, 1999 By Stephen Kinzer New York Times Service ISTANBUL - Turkey's six-week-old political crisis appeared to end Monday when a strongly secular politician, Bulent Ecevit, announced that he had assembled a minority government. It is expected to win parliamentary approval by Sunday. The country has been without a functioning government since Nov. 25, when Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz, who was implicated in a corruption scandal, lost a confidence vote in Parliament. He has remained in office as a caretaker. It is uncertain how long Mr. Ecevit will remain in power. An election is scheduled for April, but President Suleyman Demirel and powerful military commanders want to postpone it. They fear that a quick election will produce new gains for the Islamic political movement. Mr. Ecevit's government will be the sixth since the last election, in December 1995. That election led to a government headed by the Islamic leader Necmettin Erbakan. His policies angered the country's military commanders, who are committed to secularism, and they orchestrated a campaign that led to his resignation after one year in office. In the political bickering that has split the country since then, Mr. Ecevit has solidified his position as one of Turkey's most steadfast secularists. He is a also strong nationalist, and is remembered as the prime minister who ordered troops to Cyprus in 1974 in what he described as a ''peace operation'' to protect the Turkish minority there. These convictions make him acceptable to the military despite the fact that he is a lifelong leftist. The cabinet that Mr. Ecevit presented Monday is made up almost entirely of members of his own Democratic Left Party. Although the party is a minority in Parliament, other power brokers have signaled that they will support it. Key figures from the outgoing government will keep their jobs, among them Foreign Minister Ismail Cem, who is considered pro-Western; Finance Minister Zekeriya Temizel, whose immediate task will be to help negotiate a new loan agreement with the International Monetary Fund; and Education Minister Hikmet Ulugbay, who has angered some Muslims with his campaign against religious influence in schools and universities. Mr. Ecevit has been a political figure in Turkey for more than 40 years, beginning with his first election to Parliament in 1957. In the 1970s he served three terms as prime minister. holding office for a total of 33 months. He is one of a handful of elderly politicians who have, depending on one's point of view, given Turkey political continuity or kept it in the grip of an unresponsive elite. Among the most fateful of Mr. Ecevit's policies was his work in the 1970s to prevent Turkey from joining the European Union, then called the European Community. He believed it represented capitalist forces seeking to dominate Turkey and pull it away from its allies in the Middle East. Turkey is now committed to joining the Union, but no longer finds the climate as welcoming as it was then. Mr. Ecevit is the godfather of Turkey's political left. He has maintained his convictions even in the face of trials, assassination attempts and prison terms. Critics say he clings to outdated views. They cite his beliefs in anti-imperialism, protectionist economics and heavy state involvement in the economy. A policy statement distributed by his party, however, says the party has reformed and now favors ''a market economy that should operate within a democratic leftist framework in which workers' participation and joint people's enterprises will play a dominant role.'' Virtually alone among senior politicians here, Mr. Ecevit lives modestly and has avoided the taint of scandal. His insistence on driving to work in an aging Turkish sedan rather than using the chauffeur-driven Mercedes to which he is entitled has given him a reputation as something of an eccentric. Mr. Ecevit's education also sets him apart from many of his colleagues. He studied English literature at Ankara University, and later Sanskrit and Bengali at London University. In 1957 he spent eight months at Harvard. Before entering politics, Mr. Ecevit worked as a journalist, including as a columnist for the Winston-Salem Journal in North Carolina. He is an accomplished translator and has produced Turkish versions of works ranging from ''The Cocktail Party'' by T.S. Eliot to the Indian classic ''Bhagavadgita.'' From Reuters Saturday January 9 5:40 AM ET Turkey's Military Warns Islamic Activists - Papers ANKARA, Turkey (Reuters) - Turkey's powerful military, worried by a protracted political crisis, has issued a strong implicit warning that Islamist political organizations could be outlawed as a threat to democracy. The warning, clearly directed at the
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
-Caveat Lector- However, I can attest that wherever you walk on the cruddy streets of Paris, you CONSTANTLY hear that goddamn accordion music playing. Wait a second why is it god@@@ accordian music up here in Wisconsin w Loved it !!! ROFLAO Okay, pretty good documentation but is it a documentation of opinion or fact. G I look forward to reading your other posts, but please remember to documentate. G Carlene You have done what only others dream to do, you have left me speechless.. lol I look forward to your other postsbut remember to cite sources Carlene " DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Des-, Ob-Struction of Justice ?
-Caveat Lector- Theis fellow Starr reminds of a kid who's blown up the house with his chemistry set and merrily keeps chemming along ... From SalonMagazine.CoM --The vendetta continues - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - KEN STARR IS SQUEEZING WITNESSES IN AN ATTEMPT TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF PRESIDENT CLINTON'S TRIAL IN THE SENATE. Picture: Conason imageAs the Senate commences President Clinton's impeachment trial, relieved citizens might assume that the fate of the presidency is at last beyond the abusive grasp of Kenneth Starr. But by announcing the indictment of Julie Hiatt Steele Friday -- the same day that Chief Justice William Rehnquist and the senatorial jury were sworn in -- the independent counsel gave a clear signal that he intends to influence the proceedings on Capitol Hill, and that he possesses powerful means for doing so. Indeed, Starr's undiminished pursuit of Clinton may present the single greatest obstacle to a fair trial of the president, because he seems perfectly willing to misuse his prosecutorial power to threaten potential witnesses. Steele is the former friend of alleged Clinton grope victim Kathleen Willey, who says that Willey asked her to lie to Newsweek magazine and others about the incident in the Oval Office in November 1993. When Steele recanted her earlier confirmation of Willey's accusations, both publicly and in her grand jury testimony, she blew a big hole in Starr's plan to use the Willey incident against Clinton. Now the independent counsel has revenged himself by indicting Steele on four counts of obstruction of justice and perjury. Starr's action against Steele recalls his earlier attempts to intimidate Whitewater witnesses, most notably the years of abuse of Susan McDougal. The independent counsel has been muscling Steele, a 52-year-old single mother, for months; she has been summoned to testify before grand juries in both Virginia and Washington, along with her daughter, her brother, her accountant and her former attorney. Starr also has seized her tax returns as well as her bank, credit and telephone records, and Steele says his aides even threatened to investigate whether she properly adopted her 8-year-old son, though Starr denies this. What is most remarkable about the Steele indictment is its citation of her television interview on "Larry King Live," where she again refuted Willey's charges, as evidence of obstruction of justice. All this was too much even for the Washington Post's editorialists, who are no friends of the president and rarely critical of Starr. A Post editorial on Jan. 12 termed the Steele indictment "mystifying" and "disturbing," and went on to complain, "It seems peculiar that of all the people who have either admitted to or been accused of lying under oath, Ms. Steele is so far the only one to face criminal charges." The reason behind Starr's action isn't really so mysterious. In both timing and substance it seems designed to affect the Senate trial. The impeachment prosecutors led by House Judiciary Committee chairman Henry Hyde already have suggested that they intend to revive the Willey story as part of their case against Clinton. If the trial proceeds to the stage of taking live testimony, according to some members of Hyde's team, they may even call Willey as a prosecution witness. In accusing Steele of lying under oath, Starr has assisted the impeachment prosecutors in at least two ways, by implicitly bolstering Willey's credibility, and by discouraging the indicted Steele from testifying as a defense witness for the president. As the Post editorial noted, Steele isn't the only Starr witness who might be credibly accused of lying. Willey certainly appears to have lied in her deposition in the Paula Jones case, where she claimed that she had not contacted the president or the White House after the alleged groping incident. In fact, as documents released by the White House proved, she had repeatedly called and written notes to Clinton and his aides in 1994 and 1995, seeking a job and pledging her loyalty. And Linda Tripp, another potentially crucial witness in the impeachment trial, may have testified falsely before Starr's grand jury. Under questioning by a Starr aide, she insisted that her taping of Monica Lewinsky had nothing to do with a possible book deal brokered by her agent-provocateur, Lucianne Goldberg. Actually, however, Goldberg was secretly taping Tripp during their first conversations about Lewinsky. Transcripts of those tapes, released by Starr's office, clearly show Goldberg and Tripp discussing how to leak Tripp's story through Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff while holding back enough detail to create interest among publishers. "I think we can make a deal with Isikoff that protects you totally, that gets the surface of this out, and then you stand back to fill in the pieces, and I get you a publisher that will be happy to do that," says Goldberg on her own
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/1999 5:03:45 PM, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Sure ... all perpetrators of crimes should be dealt with on an equal basis. Unless: there is a predilection for criminal types to *target* certain groups more than others (i.e., do hate crimes represent a higher percentage within a certain category of crime?). Robbery of a "moneyed" person might be demonstration of negative vibes for "moneyed" people, sort of a "Robin Hood" theme without altruistic motives. One thing that I read in USA Today was concerning the torching of houses of worship. I had been led to believe (to that point) that certain groups' (ethnic) houses were being torched to the exclusion of tohers. Along comes USA Today and points out that more European-American chruches were being turned to ash and cinder than those of African-American. So, I became confused as to where the "hate" was directed. This became even more misleading when federal funding was set aside to apparently assist one of the groups rebuild. So, in conclusion, Sure ... all perpetrators of crimes should be dealt with on an equal basis according to crime(s) committed. So add to '... religion, race, creed ...' "crime" ... The report allegedly says, "'We recognize ... that white churches are burning nearly five times as often as black churches.'" But white people out number Black people *8 to 1*. More Black churches are being burned, proportionately. Best, HA From web-cln.com Picture: News Church burnings a conspiracy? A report released last week by the Center for Democratic Renewal, an Atlanta-based organization that tracks race- and hate-based crime, included warnings of a racist conspiracy in its overview of arson fires and bombings at 211 churches serving black and multiracial congregations between 1990 and 1997. The report, The Fourth Wave: A Continuing Conspiracy to Burn Black Churches, cites South Carolina as the focal point of "a conspiracy by white supremacists to burn black churches for the purpose of starting a race war." The attacks, says the CDR, have resulted in more than $25 million in damages, and affected more than 20,000 people. "We recognize ... that white churches are burning nearly five times as often as black churches," says the report, but in those cases, "anti-religious sentiment and/or personal motivation are most often the leading factors." The "Fourth Wave" is a reference to four periods of black-church burnings since Reconstruction. Perpetrators, according to CDR research, are generally white males, aged 14 to 45, traveling in groups of two to five and working at night. But the "backbone" of the conspiracy, according the report's authors, are older white supremacists who enlist young men to carry out the burnings. More than half of the 52 arrests in the cases thus far, it notes, have been juveniles. The report also says a hindrance to the investigations have been local police and fire officials' reluctance to address racial motivations, and says evidence of involvement by white volunteer firefighters in some of the fires has been "minimized by local law enforcement and some state prosecutors." A multi-agency task force investigating the arsons has so far failed to find any evidence linking more than two or three of the cases. And Dr. Ozell Sutton, regional director for the U.S. Justice Department's Community Relations Division, says his field workers have uncovered no evidence of a wide-ranging conspiracy, in South Carolina or anywhere else. "We've found a couple that may have been linked, says Sutton. "But, from my perspective, it's the lack of any real conspiracy that makes it even more onerous. If there's this level of racial hatred out there driving individuals to carry out these burnings, it's even more difficult to deal with." One person may have died as a result of the fires: 23-year-old Peter Adams, to whom the CDR. report is dedicated, died in a Feb. 25, 1995 blaze at South Richland Bibleway, in Lexington County, S.C. No investigation into the fire's cause or Adams' death was ever conducted, says the CDR. -- Greg Land Picture: [ Directory Imagemap II ] Copyright 1997 by Creative Loafing | Published Mar 22, 1997 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] From ConsumerAlert.CoM Church-Burning Hoax Pays Huge Dividends Michael Fumento It appears that the public may be finally catching on that the black church-burning epidemic of 1996 is actually one of the biggest hoaxes to come along in years. It's also turning out to be one of the most lucrative for the people who started it. We've all seen such headlines as "Flames of Hate: Racism Blamed in Shock Wave of Church Burnings,""A Southern Plague Returns," and "The South is Burning: A Rash of Torchings at Black Churches Has Resurrected the Ugly Specter of Racism." In fact, independent investigations by several reporters, including those at
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- When I say white people outnumber Black people, I mean "in the U.S." Best, HA DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 5:43:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to WCNN, Atlanta, Whitehouse lap dog, Larry Flynt, will be giving an exclusive press conference on C-SPAN tonight at 8:00 PM Pacific Time. Check your local guides to be sure of the times. Sorry to hear that he wasn't given air time. Mustn't upset the right-wing freaks by exposing their hypocrisy. On the local TV news, it was stated that Bob "family values" Barr was accused with shacking up with his third wife while he was still married to his second wife. There was also some he said/she said regarding the abortion. Regarding another self righteous but unnamed Republican, it was said that he routinely visited the brothels along the Mexican border. One hopes he doesn't have too many STDs. Let's hope, the elites are not able to continue the news block. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Living in corporate America.
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/11/99 6:03:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Explanation: The poorest 40 percent of Americans did not contribute as much tp the lifestyle and productivity of American individuals as did Bill Gates. Unlike the poorest 40%, everyone who bought goods from Microsoft did so as a voluntary decision, whereas many of the poorest 40% were recipients of funds extorted by threat of violence from the other 60%. Hawk, you seem to live in a dark pit. Your response is so appalling that i first passed it by because in the face of such unreality, there doesn't seem to be much to say. But i will say this. Suppose that you are perfectly right. Gates wealth relative to the 40% is solely due to his superior productivity so that God Almighty and all decent right thinking citizens see the justice. Suppose Gates were to increase his productivity even more in ratio to his fellows so that his wealth now exceeds 80% of the population. Would such a wealth distribution be wise even for Mr. Gates? If so, do you suppose that there might be some point at which society becomes so unstable that the game is over? Jerry Historian Arnold Toynbee studied 21 past civilizations, looking for common factors in their demise. The two most important ones were the EXTREME CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH, and inflexibility in the face of changing conditions within and around them. -- "And it came to pass that in the last days catatonics roamed the earth, and great monsters ruled the masses." Joshua II DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Worst Newspaper in America
-Caveat Lector- ((Presumably North, Central and South)) From Columbia Journalism Review http://www.cjr.org/year/99/1/worst.asp January/February 1999 | Contents The Worst Newspaper in America part 1 of 5 by Bruce Selcraig Selcraig is a former U.S. Senate investigator and staff writer for Sports Illustrarted who lives in Austin, Texas. He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture: daily oklahomanOne Sunday morning many months ago the Rev. Robin Meyers stood before some five-hundred members of his eclectic flock at Mayflower Congregational Church in Oklahoma City and ruminated about what he might do if he ever won a lottery jackpot. "I said I would give a lot of money to education, children, the homeless, that sort of thing," he recalls. "Then I mentioned that if there were any money left over I would start what this city really needs -- a competing daily newspaper to The Daily Oklahoman . . . Well, everyone just started applauding. The place went wild. And this is not a wild church. Even the Republicans were clapping." That same Sunday, like every day in Oklahoma City, a group of news-starved citizens ranging between five thousand and ten thousand, depending upon the quality of the football season, bought what many here call the most respected daily newspaper in town -- a paper produced two-hundred miles away, The Dallas Morning News. "I simply won't subscribe to The Daily Oklahoman. They skew the news," says one of the local defectors, junior college professor Frank Silovsky. "I'm always encouraging my students to read newspapers," says former Oklahoman city editor Randy Splaingard, a journalism professor at Oklahoma City University, "but I never require that they read the Oklahoman. The Constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment." "I have to read it," says Oklahoma Democratic political consultant and former Oklahoma City reporter Mike Carrier, "but it is without question the worst metropolitan newspaper in America." Maybe you could find critics like these in any American city where an influential newspaper and billionaire publisher reign, but it's doubtful they could match the fervor of these aggrieved Oklahomans, these Democrats and Republicans of all colors and classes, ranchers, teachers, oil executives. They live with a civic wound that's been festering for twenty-five years, a newspaper whose unflattering nickname has become so ingrained in the state lexicon that from Muskogee to Guymon hardly a literate soul doesn't know of "The Daily Disappointment." What other major newspaper in a metro area of one million people, and with a newsroom of 145 full-time reporters and editors, has only three African-Americans on its news staff? Where else can you find a big-city editorial page -- run by a Christian Coalition devotee plucked from Washington D.C.'s right-wing Free Congress Foundation -- that not only demonizes unions, environmentalists, feminists, Planned Parenthood, and public education, but also seems obsessed with lecturing gays? From an Oklahoman editorial titled, sin no more?: "There's no solid proof that anyone is born a homosexual . . . . Homosexuality is a sin . . . . But to deny that a sin is a sin and wallow in it is the first step toward damnation. To recognize bad behavior as a sin, repent of it and go and sin no more' is the first step toward salvation." Want lots of enterprising, in-depth stories with plenty of world and national news in your newspaper's front section? How about praline recipes instead? At the Oklahoman, which runs a front-page prayer every day, the news-lite front section is larded with cooking contests, horoscopes, Dear Abby, Billy Graham, Zig Ziglar, and women's fashion tips. Need a good chuckle? Try the six-day-a-week column on page two by "clean, keen, and topical" stand-up comedian Argus Hamilton, the son of an Oklahoma City Methodist minister. Hold on to your funny bone: A whale is dead after a whale-watching boat hit it Monday off Boston Harbor . . no wonder Monica Lewinsky won't come out of her apartment . . . . --continued-- part 1: The Worst Newspaper in America part 2: By design or neglect part 3: But Oklahoma City isn't part 4: Democrats claim part 5: ...sucking intelligence from its readers Continued @ site linked at beginning of this post AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot
Re: [CTRL] Worst Newspaper in America
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 5:30:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I said I would give a lot of money to education, children, the homeless, that sort of thing," he recalls. "Then I mentioned that if there were any money left over I would start what this city really needs -- a competing daily newspaper to The Daily Oklahoman . . . Well, everyone just started applauding. The place went wild. And this is not a wild church. Even the Republicans were clapping." Yeah, i lived in OK for over 13 years and have to agree. (the prize for how the might have fallen would go to the Washington Post). Frosty Troy, owner and editor of the Oklahoma Observer, perhaps the sole liberal voice in OK, used to rave over egregious examples of goofy stories and statements by the owner of the Daily Oklahoman. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'Arkancide' vs Clipper Chip Connection?
-Caveat Lector- Fw: Farah: Another very suspicious 'Arkancide' -Original Message- From: Bill Nalty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 5:11 AM Subject: CAS: Farah: Another very suspicious 'Arkancide' http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/19990112_xcbtl_another_ve.shtml WorldNetDaily January 12, 1999 Another very suspicious 'Arkancide' By Joseph Farah An Arkansas medical examiner has once again concluded "suicide" in a case where common sense might determine otherwise. On Nov. 17, Charles Wilbourne Miller, 63, was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head in a shallow pit about 300 yards from his ranch house near Little Rock. Police found a .410 gauge shotgun near Miller's body and a Ruger .357-caliber revolver submerged in water. Investigators concluded the Ruger was the weapon used by Miller to kill himself. Yet, two rounds in the handgun's cylinder had been spent. Only in Arkansas does a suicide victim use two shots -- not to mention two weapons -- to kill himself. Worse yet, Miller was no ordinary citizen of Arkansas. He had long served as executive vice president and member of the board of directors for a company called Alltel and was deeply involved in his own software engineering company until the day he died. Alltel is the successor to Jackson Stephens' Systematics, the company that provided the software for the White House's "Big Brother" data base system and that was behind the administration's plan to develop the secret computer "Clipper" chip to bug every phone, fax and email transmission in America. There has been at least one other high-profile "suicide" among the inner circle involved with this secretive project -- Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster, who, we now know attended critical National Security Agencyl planning meetings on the Clipper chip project, along with then-Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell, Attorney General Janet Reno and then-White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum. Just last week, WorldNetDaily columnist Charles Smith revealed that a newly de-classified FBI document confirmed that Reno personally appointed Hubbell as the Justice Department's liaison to the computer chip project. The document, a 1993 letter from FBI Director William Sessions to Reno, was obtained by Smith under the Freedom of Information Act. The FBI letter to Reno stated: "During the June 30, 1993, meeting with the National Security Council staff to discuss the status of the Presidential Decision and Review Directives concerning key-escrow encryption technology and telecommunications trends, which was attended by Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell, the issue of a recommended solution to the law enforcement access problem, or the digital telephony issue, was discussed." The existence of the White House computer system and data base -- known as WHODB, White House Office Data Base, and containing as many as 200,000 names -- was revealed by Paul Rodriguez in the Washington Times. NSA worked with Systematics, half-owned by billionaire Jackson Stephens, a major contributor to Bill Clinton's political campaigns dating back to his Arkansas days and a close associate of Mochtar and James Riady, the Indonesian billionaires and suspected Chinese government agents. It was Stephens' effort to get Systematics the job of handling the data processing for the Washington, D.C., First American Bank that led to the BCCI takeover of the institution. Hillary Clinton and Foster represented Systematics in that endeavor. Later Foster became an overseer of NSA's relationship with Systematics. And later still, he got dead. No matter what Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr says, his death has never been explained adequately as a suicide. Foster's deep connections to the Whitewater scandal, the Travelgate scandal, the Filegate scandal and this spying scandal have never been examined by any of the official probes into his death. Hoe big and how sensitive was Clipper chip project? According to a 1996 report to Vice President Al Gore by former CIA Director John Deutch, Reno proposed an all-out federal takeover of the computer industry. The Justice Department, proposed "legislation that would ... ban the import and domestic manufacture, sale or distribution of encryption that does not have key recovery," Smith found Prime targets for monitoring would be foreign governments, banks, corporations, and individuals opposing the Clinton administration. The keys were to be held by "key recovery agents" licensed by the Commerce Department. Key recovery is a government back-door system designed to secretly monitor computers. Mention all this to most people in the United States and you will be labeled a "conspiracy theorist." But one thing is clear from the government documents now available to the American people: There was a broad conspiracy to at the highest levels of government to profit from a policy inimical to freedom, national
[CTRL] Notice from Joshua Report
IMPORTANT NOTICE from JOSHUA MICHAEL [My husband's name is appropriate: Michael is the Chief Archangel of God, who "contends with the devil"] AND I would like to take a moment to thank all the wonderful WRITERS AND RESEARCHERS cited in these reports. Because of their combined efforts, we are able to learn the UNVARNISHED TRUTH of what is going on in our country. [A special thanks goes to the ORIGINAL SOURCES, i.e., Bill and Hillary Clinton, etc., who just can't help BOASTING about their plans for our overthrow: From YOUR WORDS shall we know thee!] We would also like to personally thank EACH OF YOU, our readers, who have graciously taken the time to write us with words of encouragement. Daily, we are amazed and grateful for the wonderful responses our reports receive! As most of you know, it takes unceasing patience and vigilence to do the research involved in learning the truth - the INSIDERS are far too good at lies and cover-ups, DELIBERATELY KEEPING ALL OF US IN A CONSTANT STATE OF CONFUSION. For the most part, JOSHUA works alone. We receive no monetary backing or staff assistance. But, we manage to survive, with the assistance of a small monthly pension, each other, and the blessings and guidance of OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. So much is at stake here, though, that Michael and I have chosen to dedicate our last hours on this earth to informing everyone we can AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE of what is about to happen. From time to time, we become discouraged in the face of overwhelming opposition. However, We become RE-ENERGIZED with every request to be placed on our list, for back issues, or just to say "Thank you!" A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU goes to each of you who are taking the time to RE-POST these reports and MAKE COPIES to pass out to friends who aren't on the Net. Let's face it: They certainly aren't going to learn the truth on the 11 o'clock news! Our list is growing rapidly. Thanks to your help, readers of THE JOSHUA REPORT now include members of the military, the education community and the Christian network - and they come from as far away as the Eastern bloc of the old Soviet Union. THANK YOU ALL! As MATT DRUDGE says, this is our time, Friends. The Internet is no respector of persons: It recognizes neither class, race, education, gender, or religious affiliation. Like Michael, many of you are veterans and have bravely faced the enemy on foreign battlefields. WE ARE AT WAR AGAIN, but this time the TARGET is not thousands of miles away. It is right here: AMERICA, OUR BELOVED HOMELAND! And it is not the military who are under attack. It is WE THE PEOPLE - BY THE MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, BOTH DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN. Needless to say, their COMMANDERS- IN-CHIEF are BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON! We cannot do this alone though. There is no time left for egotism: we are talking MONTHS, if we are lucky! This is not a joke, and this is not an exercise. THIS IS THE REAL THING! Our military strength comes from a HUGE NETWORK OF PATRIOTS SHARING INFORMATION. TOGETHER WE CAN DO THIS! Remember, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND OUR FUTURE WE ARE DEFENDING. Anybody who CAN help and is too lazy or selfish to do so, by default is working for the enemy! Because, we ALL have something important to contribute and EVERY SINGLE ONE of us is needed: THIS IS THE LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT WAR WE WILL EVER FIGHT. IF WE LOSE IT MEANS DEATH OR ENSLAVEMENT! ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THAT? Oh, and by the way, MR. AND MRS. PRESIDENT: There is already an army of us out here and we are GROWING STRONGER every day. In your mistaken conceit, you and your fellow Marxists, Ted and Jane Turner laugh at the American people, calling them "THE DUMBEST PEOPLE ON EARTH." I wouldn't advise you to become too smug, though: When our country began, it took a mere 3% of the population to break the British Empire's hold on us. There are far more of us this time around, and WE WILL NOT GIVE UP OUR COUNTRY - OR OUR CONSTITUTION. GOD BLESS AMERICA! LOVE GODSPEED! JOSHUA [MICHAEL His OUTLAWLADY] P.S. Because of the growing amount of research involved, beginning with Issue #15, we are limiting our reports to ONCE A WEEK: On FRIDAYS. See y'all then!
[CTRL] Fwd: Two VERY SERIOUS Articles Re The POWER GRID: MUST READS!
As, always, . . . Om K - Subj: Two VERY SERIOUS Articles Re The POWER GRID: MUST READS! Date: 99-01-08 14:54:10 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hammell) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IAHF LIST: I just read the 80 page report of the North American Reliability Council (NERC) which submitted a report to the US Dept. of Energy entitled "Preparing the Electrical Power Systems of N.America for Transition to the Year 2000" I've also read Roleigh Martin's carefully considered criticisms of this report which can be found in two "MUST READ" articles that the site won't let you cut and paste due to how its formatted. Having read the NERC report and Martin's criticisms, I am even MORE glad that I'm actively preparing to get entirely clear of Miami. For: 1) How Confidant Are We Now That We Will Have Electrical Power in 2000? Go to: http://www.y2ktoday.com/modules/home/default.asp?id=372feature=type= Also read: 2) "Critical But Peripheral Issues With the NERC Report" Also by Roleigh Martin http://www.y2ktoday.com/modules/home/default.asp?feature=trueid=484 You can get to the NERC report off a link from these articles. You will need Acrobat reader to view. It can be downloaded for free if you don't already have it. ** IAHF website maintained by webmaster, Jan Rosenstreich, Mystic Gateway Holistic Center - http://www.castle.net/~mystic/ Donations needed for trips to Washington to Secure Congressional Oversight Hearing: IAHF 2411 Monroe St. Hollywood, FL 33020 USA 800-333-2553, 954-929-0507 fax, http://www.iahf.com,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Roleigh Martin: How Confident Are We Now That We Will Have Electricity in 2000? 10/1/98 Author: Roleigh Martin On August 17, 1998, the North American Reliability Council (NERC) submitted a report to the U.S. Department of Energy, entitled "Preparing the Electric Power Systems of North America for Transition to the Year 2000: A Status Report and Work Plan." Reviews of the NERC report have been made by Rick Cowles, Dick Mills and Sheri L. Garris. I personally did not find any additional items of encouragement from the report, so you will have to read these other reviews to hear their few words of praise. If one only researches Y2K by talking to Y2K project managers or Y2K public relation officials, one is led to believe that, for the most part, there will be no problems. However, the track record of finished large scale projects by government and corporate entities leads me to believe there is no justification in accepting the conclusion that there will be no major problems. Those who have this attitude should read the Y2K books of Capers Jones and Ed Yourdon, two of the best known project management analysts in Information Technology history. I want everyone to think back to their own days in school. We all can remember the mandatory deadlines for turning in tough assignments. These deadlines often resulted in people turning in poorly done assignments that were given too little time and attention. Just because everyone turned in the assignment on time, does not mean that everyone received a passing grade. When we hear Y2K utility project managers give their project presentations at legislative or Public Utility Commission hearings what they essentially are telling us is "how far are we are on our homework." Not one of the utilities in any of the hearings I have attended have told the audience how well they are being graded by a teacher (an outside consultant whose job it is to grade them). We all know that in international testing, Americans are notorious for over-rating their test successes as they leave the testing room. Nevertheless, self-grading does not make a utility a Y2k success. We are 100 percent in the dark as to how well any of our utilities are doing from a teacher's scoring standpoint. The Most Blatant Alarm Raised In The NERC Report Across the board, the project managers have started late, if at all, on the Y2k problem. The utility industry is outrageously, poorly managed. We all know how to count to 2000, yet the utility industry has abandoned Y2K compliancy, and are instead going for Y2K readiness. (see the latest North American Reliability Council (NERC) Y2K report According to page 25 in the NERC report: "Y2K Ready means a system or component has been determined to be suitable for continued use into the Year 2000. Note that this is not necessarily the same as Y2K Compliant, which implies fully correct date manipulations. Consistent with practices across other industries, the NERC assessment process has adopted the term Y2K Ready and does not use the term Y2K Compliant." = Peripheral but Critical Issues with the NERC Report 11/2/98 Author: Roleigh Martin Missing from the NERC report are examples of failures that have occurred in some power plants which
[CTRL] Microsoft Help For Year 2000
-Caveat Lector- Technology News Microsoft Offers Fixes To Y2K Software Glitches (01/08/99, 1:42 p.m. ET) By Stuart J. Johnston with Bruce Caldwell, InformationWeek Microsoft unveiled Thursday a long-expected comprehensive initiative to help users find and fix year 2000 problems in its software. A key component of the initiative is a product-analyzer tool that examines users' hard disks and lets administrators know which Microsoft products in use are compliant and which need patches. That tool will be available this quarter. The also initiative includes a free CD subscription service for customers. CDs will contain the product analyzer when it becomes available, as well as quarterly updates on Microsoft product-compliance issues. The subscription service is available now. Microsoft has made available three plug-ins for Excel that help users fix any year 2000 problems in spreadsheets that use two-digit years. Additionally, Systems Management Server 2.0, which is due out early this year, will be able to inventory users' PCs and inform administrators which Microsoft software needs to be updated. The Redmond, Wash.-based software giant also has posted on its website free patches and hot fixes for many of its products, according to company officials. "The tools will help small and medium businesses that are way behind, but they are too little, too late for larger organizations," said James Duggan, an analyst at Gartner Group, in Stamford, Conn. Duggan also said many customers invested heavily in installing Service Pack 3 of Windows NT 4.0 last year, with the understanding that it would address their year 2000 issues. It was "very aggravating" when they later discovered they would also need to install a fourth service pack, which Microsoft released late last year, to fix additional problems. Users can subscribe to the CD service at http://www.microsoft.com/year2000 or by calling 888-673-8925. Technology News Microsoft Hit With First Y2K Suit (12/24/98, 3:19 p.m. ET) TechWeb Microsoft has been hit with its first year 2000-related lawsuit. The class- action complaint, brought by one plaintiff, alleges Microsoft knowingly designed FoxPro and Visual FoxPro so that they could not properly handle the century change. The suit asks for Microsoft to notify all FoxPro and Visual FoxPro users of the problem and issue a corrective patch, as well as some punitive damages. Search Archives DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!
-Caveat Lector- Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest Generation. What crap! The World War II generation: traumatized and buffaloed by the depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI! Dispatching Nazi and Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese totalitarianism. A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure! *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Video Finder, Free Catalogs, Links, Sweepstakes, What-Not: http://www.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Stampeding Bison
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Carlene M. Wojahn wrote: CW-I have been listening to others and there is a lot of knowledge on this listwhen I got on this morning I saw this post calling someone else names...and for a while I thought that person should get cooled off too...but then as i read he was trying to be reasonable...take it private if you want to call others names Follow your own advice...my post to you WAS private, you decided to then post it PUBLICLY to the list... WHY? It seems to me you are conducting a deliberate campaign of disrupting this list. June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] January 1999 Paradigm Shift
-Caveat Lector- The Black Ops section is very cool. A HREF="http://gate.cruzio.com/~blackops/"Blackops--The Robert Anton Wilson and Miriam .../A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Living in corporate America.
-Caveat Lector- Free at last, all mighty, free at last. Michael, your persistent challegenges for 'ideal'-'logical' purity bemoan the fact that the table is set and full of diners. Arrogant actors in a unduly, elaborate Greecian theatre of the absurd There is money in the bank and expectations of millions that 'continuity' of ' the System' shall continue. By wrapping many fates with their own the 'Conspiracy' attempts to set the stage, and picks the plays, actors and script. Epic scenes, casts of millions, gripping drama, raw sex, blood violence, pacing and pathos. I believe it was Mao, who said something like,"Power come from the end of a gun.' Revolutionary rhetoric. I would estimate that of over 50% of all consumer manufactured goods are coming from Communist China. Why? Well, because the capitalist built their latest and best manufacturing plants there? Why? Cheap Labour. Huge Market. And moreAloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris. Who Benefits?-- Where is the money going?. One would assume that China is making a profit, plus the agents? These are questions about the very real non-idealogical cryptocracies that we live in. These cryptocracies are very zeitgist in their outlook and use dogma to stifle. What do you do with the defective slaves? What do you do with the defective slaves? Do you set them aside? Do you boil them in oil? Do you deceive them, As, you bleed them, All the while? What do you do with the defective slaves? Do you get them to fight one another? You know, To save you the bother? Now, you lose, By the way, Everytime; But the play is the game, And it aint always the same. And isnt being a player, Better than, Being the game? What do you do with the defective slaves? Effectively, cajoling away, Away down the river, Away till the time, A will and a way, For the defective slaves. (C) !997 R. A. Kris Millegan Roads [EMAIL PROTECTED] MHO Om K - In a message dated 1/12/99 5:04:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nurev wrote: Historian Arnold Toynbee studied 21 past civilizations, looking for common factors in their demise. The two most important ones were the EXTREME CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH, and inflexibility in the face of changing conditions within and around them. Aaaah ... but were they FREE societies? Regard$, --MJ -- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Malaysia/Afghanistan
Need to Know Something Fast? Try STRATFOR's Find Facts Service Visit http://www.stratfor.com/findfacts/ Or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Global Intelligence Update Red Alert January 13, 1999 Possible Bin Laden Group Attempts Transit Through Malaysia Summary: * Seven Afghan nationals, reportedly arrested and detained in Malaysia on January 7 as they attempted to board a London-bound flight using forged Italian passports, may have been connected with Saudi terrorist financier Osama Bin Laden. This incident and increasing Bin Laden linked guerrilla activity in the Philippines suggest the potential for terrorist acts following the end of Ramadan on January 19. Analysis: China's Xinhua news agency reported on January 7 that Malaysia immigration authorities had detained seven Afghan nationals at the Bayan Lepas International Airport, when the group attempted to board a Singapore Airlines flight for London. Malaysian authorities stated that the reason behind the arrest was that the Italian passports that the Afghanis were carrying were believed to be forged, obtained most likely through the help of an Italian national who was also arrested. Penang Immigration Director, Md Saad Md Akhir, said that the seven Afghanis had been under investigation since they entered Malaysia on December 7 last year, via the Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang, using Afghan passports. They are believed to have acquired forged Italian passports from the Italian national after entering Malaysia, and to have tested them by entering Singapore on December 8 and returning to Malaysia on December 15. This incident may be nothing more than a failed attempt at illegal immigration, but circumstances surrounding the incident suggest it warrants further scrutiny. First, the possibility that these seven men were simply attempting to emigrate is hard to believe. They traveled out of Afghanistan, a country sending very few abroad, on official passports. In Malaysia, rather than simply requesting asylum or traveling elsewhere under their own documents, they somehow tracked down a man who could provide them with forged passports. The criminal effort to mask their identity, combined with their point of departure and target destination, is suspicious in and of itself. The seven may have been on a covert mission for Afghanistan's Taleban regime, but we suspect another sponsor -- Osama Bin Laden. As we have been monitoring in our Asia Intelligence Updates, Saudi terrorist financier Osama Bin Laden, currently based in Afghanistan, evidently maintains contacts and possibly banking operations in Malaysia. Furthermore, he has apparently recently used Malaysia as a transshipment point for arms, money and personnel to the Philippine Muslim extremist groups Abu Sayyaf and the Salafiyah Fighters. It is possible that these Afghan nationals were some of Bin Laden's "Afghan Arabs," traveling under Afghan passports, using Bin Laden's contacts in Malaysia to prepare for a mission in the United Kingdom. The London destination is particularly noteworthy. While London hosts an array of Middle Eastern opposition groups, possible targets for a Taleban-sponsored operation, it has also been Washington's staunchest ally on Mid East policy. This showed itself most clearly in the joint U.S.-UK air strikes against Iraq, Operation Desert Fox. Following the terrorist attacks last year on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the retaliatory strikes by the U.S. against targets in Afghanistan and Sudan, security has been bolstered at U.S. and British embassies, amid fears of further attacks by Bin Laden's network. Still, since last August, Bin Laden has not retaliated on a grand scale. However, as we have been observing and reporting, groups backed by Bin Laden have been on the move, and U.S. planners have clearly been bracing for trouble. U.S. embassies around the Persian Gulf went on a heightened state of alert on December 14, with the State Department warning of "the strong possibility" of terrorist attacks on U.S. interests over Christmas or the Moslem fasting month of Ramadan. U.S. citizens in Kuwait, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain and Yemen were told to be extra vigilant over the next 30 days. The threat increased when, on December 16, the U.S. and British launched strikes on Iraq. On December 25, Bin Laden called on Muslims to avenge the air strikes on Iraq, stating, "it is the duty of Muslims to kill American and British nationals in retaliation for the air strikes against Iraq." While the arrest of these Afghanis in Malaysia may have interrupted a plot to attack U.S. and British interests in London, Bin Laden's group and allies are clearly on the move again, with multiple target options. On January 2, Bin Laden said that attempts by Washington to disrupt his finances, arrest him or execute him have failed even though there have been
[CTRL] Rehnquist Struts Latest Style In Judicial Robes
-Caveat Lector- REHNQUIST STRUTS LATEST STYLE IN JUDICIAL ROBES === (CNNS, 01/12/99) -- The fashion world is abuzz this spring governmental season; all are talking about Chief Judge William Rehnquist's daring new style in judicial wear. Rehnquist's new outfit is a simple, one-piece affair, sporting provocative stripes on each sleeve. It is rumored that Henry Hyde, head of the team of prosecutors in the developing impeachment trial, will himself don a Tudor-style cap for the occasion. This rumor is unconfirmed as we go to press. But with last week's premiere, by Rehnquist, of the *haute couture*, striped-sleeve judicial garment, some are wondering about a possible hidden significance beneath the surface of an apparently innocent fashion statement. Is there some deeper meaning behind Rehnquist's sporty new style in judicial wear? Contacted by this news service, Sherman Skolnick, chairman of the Chicago-based public interest research group, Citizens' Committee To Clean Up The Courts, speculated that Judge Rehnquist's fashionable new robes might be a return to an older style of judicial wear. According to Skolnick's recollection, a similar striped-sleeve judicial robe was worn by judges in Nazi Germany. "Is it fashion, or fascism?" he asks. This news service agrees that the striped-robe fashion may be a resurrection of style: if our memory serves us, striped-robes were worn by judges during the Nuremberg Trials, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals.However, the Nuremberg Trials were post-World War II, and so Rehnquist's new robe has less of a Nazi connotation than Skolnick suggests. Another theory is that Rehnquist is copying the fashion of robes worn by the World Court, at the Hague. If such is the case, two explanations come to mind: (1) Americans are slavish to European fashions, and Rehnquist does not want to appear tacky to his European peers; (2) Rehnquist's striped-sleeve fashion statement is a subtle indicator that American jurisprudence is moving toward an "international motif," symbolized by the new judicial wear. Why has Judge Rehnquist changed the style of his judicial robes? You tell me. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- ...Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true champion of the 1st Amendment and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right. Cheers to Larry! Keep up the fight! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Worst Newspaper in America
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 8:20:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Listen, 90% of our news media is of the liberal, politically-correct varitey. Liberal is a dirty word in 99% of all media and is, therefore, erroneously associated with politically correct. Who do you think made it a dirty word in 99% of the media? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Internet access charges
Thank you for requesting further information ref CNN article about pending legislation. You are not alone. ...The issue has not been found on the CNN site so far. ...The FCC site http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/nominute.html denies the fee as a valid concern. However, it does not mention any congressional involvement, or interest in enacting access fees. Thank you for requesting further information ref CNN article about pending legislation. You are not alone. ...The issue has not been found on the CNN site so far. ...The FCC site http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/Factsheets/nominute.html denies the fee as a valid concern. However, it does not mention any congressional involvement, or interest in enacting access fees. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [CTRL] William: Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- At 10:13 PM 1/12/99 -0500, Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Here's hoping that Flynt has more than what was offered last night. Edward Disappointed, are you? Well, you have every right to be. Jabba the Flynt didn't get very much for his million, did he. Too bad, so sad. I guess we'll have to just be patient and wait a little longer until the left uncovers someone more putrid than President Scabbydong Pants-on-fire. Cheers. DBC DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Living in corporate America.
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would estimate that of over 50% of all consumer manufactured goods are coming from Communist China. Why? Well, because the capitalist built their latest and best manufacturing plants there? Why? Cheap Labour. Huge Market. MJ: How long has labor been cheap abroad? Why is it only in recent years we have had a (purported) mass exodus? Could it be the regulatory load which has escalated over the past recent years? Regard$, --MJ The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits. -- Thomas Jefferson to M. L'Hommande, 1787. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- MJ: While the conclusion may or may NOT be true [cause], what exactly makes the muder of an individual within a 'protected' group WORSE than the murder of some other individual? Gerald Harp wrote: Yes, murder is murder and the US murder statistics stand out like a malignant cancer. The extreme right wing hate mongers have so many reason and excuses for violence that it is astounding. Bob Grant, Rush, Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy and snip MJ: What exactly does the above have to do with the questions regarding 'thought crimes' posited above? Have you no response? How does one KNOW that these two individuals killed the third for the sole reason that he was gay? Was it merely the same variety as any whitey that kills a black is a racist? MJ: Would any robbery be a 'hate crime' since the perpetrator most certainly 'hates' 'rich people'. Gerald Harp wrote: This statement does not make sense. MJ: Sure it does ... if two guys kill a guy and he happens to be gay it MUST be a 'hate' crime. I somebody 'rips off' another guy ... it too must be a 'hate' crime because that person obviously hates 'rich people'. Regard$, --MJ There are mighty few people who think what they think they think. -- Robert Henri DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Republican Hate Rhetoric Turns Deadly
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/12/99 9:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MJ: While the conclusion may or may NOT be true [cause], what exactly makes the muder of an individual within a 'protected' group WORSE than the murder of some other individual? Yes, murder is murder and the US murder statistics stand out like a malignant cancer. The extreme right wing hate mongers have so many reason and excuses for violence that it is astounding. There is primarily ONE reason for the burden of violence we experience... When a crime is committed, it is not followed SWIFTLY by CERTAIN (and appropriate) punishment. Over 95% of FELONIES in the U.S. are "unsolved," whereas in Japan, over 95% of felonies result in jail time. Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
