[CTRL] Fwd: Deepak Chakra

[E Mael]

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Harry Meeker wrote:

>> Dear Alton,

>> Thank you for such a wonderful gift filled  knowledge and wisdom.

>> Harry

>>

>> Alton Kanter wrote:

>>

>> > >

>> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> > >From: Alton Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> > >Subject: Deepak Chopra Wisdom

>> > >Cc:

>> > >Bcc:

>> > >X-Attachments:

>> > >

>> > >Dear Sisters and Brothers,

>> > >

>> > >this just came thru to me.  It seems quite provocative of an extended

>> > >discussion of several possibilities:

>> > >

>> > >1. an analysis of Deepak Chopra's teachings/writings in general

>> > >2. His call here for a new theory of reality

>> > >3. the nature of our ability to "create"

>> > >4. what exactly is "healing" and being a "healer" ?

>> > >5. you add to the list and let's start?

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >>One More Reality To Go, by Deepak Chopra, January, 1999

>> > >>

>> > >>We've spent the past millennium unraveling the mysteries of
>science. Now

>> > >>let's open the window to miracles and inner space.

>> > >>

>> > >>All around us, an infinite new reality is peering through the
>cracks of

>> > >>our rigid, bounded conception of the known. If our future is going
>to be more

>> > >>than just a repetition of the past, we will have to leave the known
>behind

>> > >>and discover a region of reality not yet explored--the realm of the

>> > >>impossible.

>> > >>

>> > >>Consider this experience of a friend of mine. He pulled the
>ligaments in his

>> > >>right foot during a workout. Hobbling and in constant pain, he went
>to an

>> > >>orthopedist, only to be told that surgery might be in the offing.
>He was

>> > >>reluctant to have an operation and waited, hoping the condition
>would

>> > >>improve on its own. When it didn't, he decided on impulse to visit a

>> > >>Chinese healer.

>> > >>

>> > >>The healer looked at the injured foot and touched it lightly. Then
>he walked

>> > >>behind my friend's back and made a line of Xs in the air, up and
>down his

>> > >>spine. "Try to walk now," he said. My friend got up and, to his

>> > >>astonishment, walked around the room free of pain. He asked the
>healer

>> > >>what he'd done. "Your body is a projection of your mind, a pattern
>of

>> > >>energy held together by your awareness. When you are aware that it
>is

>> > >>well, you hold your body together in a healthy state. But pain
>caused

>> > >>your awareness to withdraw from your body. You no longer held the
>right

>> > >>image, so I adjusted it for you." My friend shook his head. "But
>all you

>> > >>did was move your hands in the air," he protested. "No, I was
>shifting

>> > >>your energy," the Chinese healer corrected. "Certain channels were
>closed

>> > >>that needed to be open--very simple." The most remarkable aspect of
>this

>> > >>healing experience is that my friend did not sense that his entire
>life

>> > >>had been changed for the better. Although he was pleased that his
>foot

>> > >>was healed, at first he had no understanding of the key to the
>mystery of

>> > >>this "very simple" procedure.

>> > >>

>> > >>The power exercised by the healer operated from a level deeper than
>my

>> > >>friend--most people--can access. When I pointed this out, my friend

>> > >>suddenly remembered something important he'd overlooked. "The
>healer told

>> > >>me that anyone can learn to do the same kind of work," he said,
>"but the

>> > >>first step is giving up the idea that it is impossible."

>> > >>

>> > >>I can cite books filled with nuggets of the unknown--the
>impossible--that

>> > >>are pure gold: eyewitness accounts of psychokinesis, telepathy,
>miracle

>> > >>cures, premonitions that came true, prayers that were answered,
>people

>> > >>seen in two locations at once, holy figures who emanated light from
>their

>> > >>bodies and angels encountered by the roadside on rainy nights.

>> > >>

>> > >>How do we explain the documented experience of an Italian military
>officer

>> > >>in the Sixties, his hip totally dissolved with cancer, who visited
>the

>> > >>shrine at Lourdes and grew a new hip in a matter of months! And
>what about

>> > >>the dying lymphoma patient in the Fifties who was injected with
>saline

>> > >>solution as a placebo and, because he believed the injection was
>powerful

>> > >>chemotherapy, had every trace of cancer vanish from his body in a
>matter

>> > >>of days--the tumors "melting like snowballs on a hot stove," as one

>> > >>commentator described it. Are these not impossible" achievements?

>> > >>

>> > >>Writing about the "rare but spectacular phenomenon of spontaneous

>> > >>remission," the renowned physician-essayist Lewis Thomas declares,
>"No one

>> > >>has the ghost of an idea how it happens. It is a fascinating
>mystery but

>> > >>at the same time a solid basis for hope in the future."

>> > >>

>> > >>On the eve of the first millennium, the greatest event in
>history--the end

>> > >>of the world--was predicted. It failed to happen. N

Re: [CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

[Don Allen]

 -Caveat Lector-

At 01:29 AM 4/20/99 -0400, Colleen Jones wrote:

>Thomas Alva Edison and Tesla?  Well  when you consider ARCO oil is using
>his work to destroy our country through this insane Weather Program,
>brining on the torndoes, hurricanesdrought in Florida burningno
>kiddingthese people are now going to further use the weather, as a
>weapon, as they did in Viet Nm to bring on the monsoons six months
>early.

A relevant excerpt from William R. Lyne's book, "Space Aliens from
the Pentagon".

Pages 17-18

--- begin excerpt ---

In 1940, (Wm. L. Laurence, New York Times, Sept 22, 1940), Tesla
announced his _Teleforce_ (italics), consisting of four _already tested_
inventions, as follows:

"(1) A means of producing rays in the free air without a vacuum;
 (2) a method off producing a very great electrical force;
 (3) a method of amplifying this electrical force; and
 (4) a new method for producing a tremendous electrical _propelling_
force."

To show you how insidious the mis-informationalists are, and how easy it is for
them to dupe 'sensation-addicts', there have several recent instances where
the misinformation regarding the four listed inventions, from the original 1940
New York Times article, has been repeated, based on an original "patent",
in which the misrepresentations were originally made in a sly and oblique
way that few would suspect, right under the noses of the "Tesla experts". The
four inventions were already tested at the time, and (4) was a propelling
force. Anyone who ran down the original article to examine it as I did, would
know that.

Among the several places I have discovered this misrepresentation, was a
so-called "patent" on HAARP (High Frequency Auroral Research Project).
The only purpose for such a fraudulent misrepresentation would be for the
explicit purpose of misrepresenting the original Tesla material, to those
studying Tesla's work, because it represented one of the few 'unretrieved'
leaks of Tesla's discovery of the flying saucer propulsion system. The patent,
(No. 4,686,605, issued to Bernard J. Eastlund, Spring, Texas, 1983) is
now owned by Arco Power Technologies, Inc., under which they are to
perform some "top secret" tests for the government, from the North Slope
of Alaska, and was alleged to be one of three patents previously locked
up under a Navy security order. To begin with, patents are not issued on
inventions primary to secret projects. Whatever the real purpose of the
HAARP project, you can bet your booties it isn't what they say it is.
Secondly, the real purpose  of planting the false particulars of the 'patent'
in publications read by 'alternative researchers', was to obscure and
misrepresent Tesla's discovery of the ether propulsion system used on
flying saucers.

And who is ARCO? (Atlantic Richfield Oil Company) was created by Trilateral
Commission member Robert O. Anderson, of Roswell, New Mexico, the creator
of  Diamond A Cattle Company, the largest holding company in North America,
which owns all known oil shale deposits in North America, and almost all
mineral rights in the North Slope of Alaska. ARCO moved to garner a monopoly
on solar and alternate energy resources after the "fuel crisis" of 1974.

The misinformation placed in the 'patent' was repeated (NEXUS Magazine,
April-May 1995 - Extraordinary Science, Jan-Feb-Mar, 1995) just precisely
where it shouldn't have been, but just precisely  where the Secret Government
wanted it. Once something like this gets started, where does it stop? Those
who should have known better, did nothing to stop it. Where the ball goes,
nobody knows. We cannot allow this Trilateralist misrepresentation of Tesla's
work to go unchallenged.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Re: Clinton & NATO's Kosovo - Ground Troops Needed?

[Kris Millegan]

The following detailed article from the New York Times shows a detailed
history of the events leading up to the actions by NATO.It reveals a
partially true concern that Bill Clinton was distracted by the other crisis
in his life that he may not have thought clearly about Kosovo.This is
only very partially true, for Clinton created some of the other crisis' that
were distracting him, such as his "Wag the Dog" airstrikes against
Afghanistan and the Sudan.

Soon we shall expect to hear spin that the Republicans are the ones to blame,
because they unfairly brought about the impeachment trial that distracted the
President from clear thinking on Kosovo.This spin will be needed in order
to lift Al Gore's Poll ratings to defeat Bush.

I finished the book "All Too Human" By George Stephanopoulos several weeks
ago.
George, like Monica Lewinski, reveals that he is on medication.

I have a theory about a few bright, intelligent people who must take
medication.   I think that this can be a byproduct of living a life without
conscience,  hurting people and the overwhelming subconscious feelings of
guilt that result.   When morality is relative, the chances are increased
that other people get hurt, because relativistic morality can easily be made
selfish at other people's painful expense.

 If half of the stuff in the book were true, the President is a pathological
Liar and cannot be trusted on ANY matter private or public.

 I am almost finished with Michael Isikoff's book "Uncovering Clinton",  once
again, the President is a "creep" if just half of the stories are true.   I
don't think there are any alibis for the President that can excuse him now
from any of this.  Later in the book is a section that discusses one of
Clinton's "consenting" affairs.   The woman described Clinton as biting her
lip.Sound familiar?  That is an independant MO for Clinton seperate from
the Juanita Broadrick Rape, where Clinton almost bit her lip off, and she was
bleeding.  What kind of animal is Bill Clinton?  Anyone who does this to
women should be in Prison cutting Potatos in the Prison Kitchen.

 I finished Gary Aldrich's book "Unlimited Access" today.   Now that book was
out around the time of TWA 800.   It has an unflattering view of
Stephanopoulos.  Aldrich interviewed many White House Staff for the Security
Pass procedures.He found most of the appointees to be hostile toward his
interviews as an FBI special Agent. One of the few non-hostile White House
staff was Vincent Foster.The book centers around the deliberate Security
failures surrounding the White house staff during the first Clinton term.
 This is one of the best books to read if one wishes to understand the
destruction of the FBI.   The FBI before Bill Clinton was different from the
FBI after Clinton's first term finished it.   It helped me to understand what
the FBI had become before they came for me here in Portland, Oregon in
February 1997 regarding TWA 800.   I now understood the change, that the FBI
was no longer the glamourized version that I grew up with, on TV in the
sixties, when I liked them.   They had become something much more politicized
and less objective and rational.   Aldrich discusses some of the politics,
the power struggles, the failures of the FBI to investigate Vince Foster's
death.
Aldrich also reveals Hillary Clinton to be a dreadful and evil woman, she
fought to get Al Gore's office space after they were elected.   She wanted to
be a form of vice-president, with Gore as merely a figurehead.  She and Bill
faught and yelled at one another fairly regularly.The book confirms
seperately from the Arkansas Troopers that Hillary and Vince Foster once had
an affair.   It confirms that Bill Clinton still slipped away from the White
House, as he did as Governor of Arkansas, to a local hotel for nuptial visits
with women.

I think that the liberal argument that private life does not effect public
life is a failure.   A man whose conscience is hardened enough not to a feel
a victim's pain, from personal lies, rape, cheating on the wife etc, will not
feel a victim's pain if he makes a decision to cover up 230 deaths (TWA 800)
or 800, 000 deaths Rwanda.

A man's conscience is a delicate thing.  It must be guarded by
non-relativistic moral convictions. When it is suppressed, Hitler can be
created, and medication may be required, making the cycles even worse.

William Jefferson Clinton is responsible for the coverup of TWA 800 and 230
dead people, there is no doubt in my mind.This is how he operates.

Presently the Kosovo war is being financed by Social Security monies.   Those
promises several weeks ago by Bill Clinton about a Budget Surpluses that
could payoff Social Security are now utter nonesense.

Will there now be monies for Y2K emergencies?

Clinton will not be able to maneuver to delay catastrophe toward the future
always,  like criminals in the streets, this stuff catches up with you
eventually.   There is no joy to thi

[CTRL] Good Night

[Colleen Jones]

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I am going to bed tonight early; I go to sleep and I dream of my tv
screen.

When I wake up tomorrow, I want the war to be over..and then, maybe
I can get some sleep..

Good Night Night Owlsgood dreams, and I hope Bill gets that job.

Colleen

PS:  I am now pulling the plug.

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Re: [CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

[Colleen Jones]

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Thanks Don.I remember that AC/DC stuff now in material I had on
Tesla; and you are right, I was thinking ill of Tesla for how they are
using his work now.

Me, you know, I am just the average American who can get this gist of
this stuff, and know when I get hit by a lightning bolt (twice last year
- have a lot of evergreens)but the technical stuff, well let us say
I am Amy Carter discussing the Nuclear Bomb with Daddy.

Remembe how Carter said he discussed this stuff with Amy.I about
died.  Einstein made simple again for dumbells like me.

Farewell.you know, that article I had on Tesla was biased towards
Edison; all I could remember was that horrible electric chair that even
I lived in fear of when I was little..

colleen

You know, I would like to put Clinton in tht hot seat, along with
Albright and Reno.I would personally lite that fire.

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Re: [CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

[Don Allen]

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At 01:29 AM 4/20/99 -0400, Colleen Jones wrote:

>Thomas Alva Edison and Tesla?  Well  when you consider ARCO oil is using
>his work to destroy our country through this insane Weather Program,
>brining on the torndoes, hurricanesdrought in Florida burningno
>kiddingthese people are now going to further use the weather, as a
>weapon, as they did in Viet Nm to bring on the monsoons six months
>early.
>
>Tempertures going up at night; artificial lightning and earthquakes;
>give me Edison the Man.lets bury Tesla and his destructive side.
>Colleen

Tesla did not create HAARP, nor is it of his doing. Unfortunately, there
are those ignorant people who insist that he did. They are wrong, wrong,
wrong.

Edison was above all, an opportunist and a copy cat. The falling out
between him and Tesla was documented in "Tesla: Man out of Time",
by Margaret Cheney. Edison viewed Tesla's brilliant genius as a direct
threat to his DC system. He was a cheapskate - he made an offer to Tesla
if he would re-design his dynamos, he would pay him handomely. When Tesla
finished, he reneged and offered Tesla a paltry increase in salary. Tesla
walked out.


The Smithsonian believes strongly in revisonist history. See the
url - http://www.cris.com/~Jwwagner/ . No credit whatsoever to
Tesla, yet Edison is revered as a god. There are people that believe
that Marconi invented radio, but they are wrong too. Patents don't
lie.

I'm a native Floridian and just recently moved to Colorado. I know all
about the drought in Florida, and the fires. I was there in Orlando
last year traveling back and forth to Flagler Beach, Daytona and to
Titusville. I drove through smoke so thick, you couldn't see 10 feet
in front of you, on both 1-4 near Deland, and I-95 near Titusville.
The fires have come earlier this year, since La Nina has moved the
jetstream around and not enough moisture has moved down to Florida
and Georgia yet. However, come June, Florida will get an afternoon
thunderboomer.

Don


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[CTRL] Fwd: Deeper in WRENCH (cont.)

[Kris Millegan]

 Suffice it to say: I would not be overly satisfied with the first,
second, third or forth answers that you receive regarding the true
meaning of these communications 'hidden in the open", as a certain
"John" oft loves to remark, in our major media.
So what could it mean? I will be candid and say I don't know. Not for
sure. If I guess and say that infrastructures in some soon to be
devastated countries are up for grabs it would be hard for you to
swallow so early in this document. There is, however, one thing for sure
that you can reason: you, Kind sir, and you, Dear Lady, are not invited.

"Oh, pooh," you must be thinking, "The major executives on Madison
Avenue are known to be a bit bats anyway, at least major drinkers.
Couldn't this be some nonsense a tad prior to leading the overworked Mr.
Spellbinder gently toward a detox?" Yes, that could account for a few
cases, but not to many.
"But whatever for? Why publish secret messages? Seems to be a very large
contradiction. Explain that!"
The powerful purpose of publishing secret messages is that it
legitimizes statements of policy. The publishing serves the same
function of the court reporter. It is right there in black and white to
refer to, and infers that all the nabobs are behind this policy: that if
there was dissent you would hear it now. If this was done too secretly,
with no bases of referral, it would be hard to determine what is policy
and what is whim. Let me make up an example: the Western Block does not
want Eastern Block support of rebels in the Sudan to go further north.
(If you know the purpose and function of destabilization you can easily
see how North-South, East-West can be interchangeable in this example.)
At any rate you publish or "billboard" your policy, large type, in a
specified full page ad: YOU MAY GO NO FURTHER NORTH. To make it read
like an ad, underneath in much smaller type it says, "Visit Lapland ...
Travel and Leisure Magazine." When possible the message is designed to
be read both ways. Obviously, this is not always possible.
Sometimes it can be read as an ad too, but reads as a very stupid ad,
one that any junior copywriter would be fired for. A good example would
be a full page ad running day after day, week after week in the Times.
In this case it is the back of the Business Section (D 22) on June 2,
1993. This example is on page "C" of the appendix.
The ad does give some exposure to John's American Express and a little
more to a restaurant whose name, because of the size of the type, I
forget. That expensive space does not serve either one of the
advertisers well. In fact, upon a closer examination, you have to agree
that it serves both very poorly. Again, seeing the actual ad, or seeing
it on microfiche is a very different experience than seeing an identical
"mock up" of the ad.
Gee, did I mention John? Yes, well I I might as well mention that these
large billboards are, very often, in advertisements from company's
controlled by John. John who? I thought you knew all this. Neverworry.
We will, Dear Lady - Kind sir, get to John.
  This billboarding of messages is not limited to print. Ted Turner
accused the other major networks of treason. He made some cryptic
comments concerning unspecified hanky-panky, but did use the word
"treason". He then went on a personal peace trip to Cuba. A few months
later he was interviewed by Diane Sawyer on 20/20. In the interview
Diane Sawyer asked Ted Turner if he accused the networks of treason. Ted
Turner said that he had, but that he is no longer doing so. Then Diane
Sawyer asked Ted Turner if he had accused the other networks of treason.
Again, Ted Turner said that he had, but that he is no Ion er doing so.
Then Diane Sawyer asked Ted Turner if he had accused the other networks
of treason. Ted Turner said that he had, but that he is no longer doing
so. Bored? Already? It gets better. Next Diane Sawyer asked Ted Turner
if he had accused the other networks of treason. Once again Ted Turner
said that he had, but that he is no longer doing so. How, Kind Sir -
Dear Lady, can you say you are bored with this repetition when you sat
through a full 20 minutes of it! Never, in this exotic exchange, was it
ever mentioned why Mr. Turner made the accusation. Never was it
mentioned what the alleged treasonous acts were! "Ted, you recently
accused the other networks of treason, didn't you?" "Yes, Diane, I did,
but I am not doing that any longer." Twenty minutes!
Why? Because Ted Turner was new at the "news" business. He did not know
the things that I am presently telling you. He went from "mass
perspective" to "ruler perspective" very quickly. He was emotionally
reacting to some sick stuff. He was for a brief shinning moment acting
real, having the same great sportsmanlike qualities that we all loved
him for as he rolled a raw egg from first to second base with his nose.
The powers-that-be could not afford such a loose cannon. They had to
"educate" this newcomer quickly .
"Wel, Te

[CTRL] Donaldson Letter to Boeing and TWA (WOW!)

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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Hell no, Bill wouldn't go -
But He'll send your kids to Kosovo!

Bard

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[CTRL] Nazi Leader Biographies - Includes Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, Röhm, Göring, Speer, and more...

[1lls0081]

Will someone that is a member please send me Hitler's Bio.
I am not paying to get on a web site.
Thank You
Laura
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Adolf Hitler

Born: April 20, 1889 in Braunau am Inn, Austria 
Died: April 30, 1945 in Berlin, Germany 
Founder and Leader of the Nazi Party
Reich Chancellor from 30 Jan. 1933, to 1945 

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Born: October 29, 1897 in Rheydt, Germany 
Died: May 1, 1945 in Berlin, Germany 
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Born: January 12, 1893 in Rosenheim, Germany 
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Reich Commissar for the Strengthening of Germandom - October 1939 

Complete
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Subordinates: 
Reinhard
Heydrich, Ernst
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Nebe, Walter Schellenberg,
Heinrich
Muller,
Karl Wolff,
Gottlob
Berger,
Hans Jüttner,
Richard
Hildebrandt,
Franz
Bereithaupt,
Kurt
Dalegue, Oswald
Pohl, Dr. Ernst
Heissmeyer, Werner
Lorenz, Ulrich
Greifeldt







Ernst Röhm

Born: November 28, 1887 in Munich, Germany 
Died: June 30, 1934 in Night of Long Knives (The Blood Purge) 
Chief of Staff of the SA 
Reich Minister without Portfolio 

Minister of the Bavarian State

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Rosenberg Albert
Speer | Julius
Streicher

Re: [CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

[Colleen Jones]

 -Caveat Lector-

I just had to intercede with a few comments; Tesla was a genius, no
doubt.

Edison and Tesla had a falling out; Edison was a humanitarian.Tesla
and Westinghouse hand in hand, produced the first Electric
Chair...this resulted in Edison calling in the Westinghouse
Chair

Thomas Alva Edison and Tesla?  Well  when you consider ARCO oil is using
his work to destroy our country through this insane Weather Program,
brining on the torndoes, hurricanesdrought in Florida burningno
kiddingthese people are now going to further use the weather, as a
weapon, as they did in Viet Nm to bring on the monsoons six months
early.

Tempertures going up at night; artificial lightning and earthquakes;
give me Edison the Man.lets bury Tesla and his destructive side.
Colleen

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Re: [CTRL] Breaking News ! - April 5, 1999***TWA FLIGHT 800***FLASH!!!

[Colleen Jones]

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Hell no we won't go;
Lets send Bill to Kosovno..

(and burn the bridges behind him)

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: What the US wants in Kosovo...

[Howard R. Davis III]

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I believe that the following is filled with factual errors. Here are a
few that I have noticed from memory.

Howard Davis

Kris Millegan wrote:
>
>   
>
> Subject: Fwd: What the US wants in Kosovo...
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:07:47 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subj:   Re: What the US wants in Kosovo...
> Date:   99-04-19 17:05:41 EDT
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Carrara)
>
> On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Im not saying WWII was the best thing to do but, the axis forces DID in
> fact

snip


> Japan had reached a conditional surrender with their
> ambassador in Moscow, under the condition that the Emperor, an extremely
> important holy figure to the Japanese, remain in place.  This is the *only*
> condition, a simple request if you ask me, but the U$ would not budge, they
> wanted an unconditional surrender.
***
My understanding is that the Russians did not forward this offer of surrender.

Why else did the U$ drop those bombs?
> Well one thing that has been said is that too much time and money had already
> been invested in developing this atomic bomb, they *had* to drop it (remember
> Albright's statement to Powel, "what's the point of having the most powerful
> military in the world if we can't even use it").  This argument has merit,
> but even more so is the fact that the U$ wanted to destroy Japan so that they
> could instill their imperial powers before Russia did.  For if Russia were to
> destroy Japan before the U$, Japan would have surrendered to Russia, and they
> would have complete control to Japan, as we did post-WWII.  Russia had said
> (promised) that they would enter the war with Japan exactly 90 afters after
> the European war ended.  Germany surrendered on May 8, making August 8 the 90
> day mark that Russia had promised to enter into the war against Japan.
***
I believe that they had already entered the war before the bombs were
A-bombs were dropped. Stalin had full knowledge of the Manhatten project
from his spies (it has recently been admitted that USSR's first A-bomb
was an exact duplicate of one of the US bombs). Also, it has been pretty
much established that Alger Hiss was a spy reporting to Moscow (through
recently released KGB files).

The
> first bomb fell on Hiroshima August 6, the second bomb fell on Nagasaki on
> August 7, literally day(s) before Russia had promised to enter into the war!
> Is this a coincidence, I think not!  A former Secretary of the Navy said
> about Secretary of State James F. Byrnes as "most anxious to get the Japanese
> affair over with before the Russians got in."  Is it any coincidence that
> prior to WWII, Russia was the enemy.  They suddenly became our allies in the
> war against Germany.  But as soon as the European countries surrendered, the
> enemy was switched back to Russia.  Amazingly how quickly this all happened,
> isn't it?
***
It actually took a few years while they took over Eastern Europe. For
instance, they were given a free reign to take over Poland in 1946. (See
"I Saw Polan Betrayed" by the US ambassador to Poland in 1945-6).

snip

> It was well known that these targets (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) were purely
> civilian areas.

I believe that Nagasaki was a major port.

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[CTRL] Breaking News ! - April 5, 1999***TWA FLIGHT 800***FLASH!!!

[Peter L. Sroufe]

Folks, Make sure you read his Letter to Boeing and TWA!
**

Over the past several months Cmdr. Donaldson has uncovered significant new
information that clearly shows that Flight 800 was shot down by one or more
shoulder-fired missiles, that the FBI, the Justice Department and the
Administration knew this from the beginning and spent the last 2 1/2 years
trying to contain that fact. The highlights of this new information are
contained in a letter to the CEOs of Boeing and TWA, dated April 5, 1999.
The letter is in PDF format and will require Adobe Acrobat Reader. The
letter is also available in text format.


 http://www.twa800.com/

Hell no, Bill wouldn't go -
But He'll send your kids to Kosovo!

Bard

 TWA FLIGHT 800.url

[CTRL] Fw: NATO-Russia, Global Economy

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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R >>


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Table of Contents

I. Updates and Out-Takes

*** CONTAINMENT LITE: U.S. POLICY TOWARD RUSSIA AND ITS NEIGHBORS ***
By John Feffer

*** GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT RESOLUTION ***
By Jeremy Brecher and Brendan Smith


II. Comments

*** QUESTIONS ABOUT FPIF'S KOSOVO BRIEFING DOCUMENT ***

*** ULTERIOR MOTIVES? ***

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I. Updates and Out-Takes

*** CONTAINMENT LITE: U.S. POLICY TOWARD RUSSIA AND ITS NEIGHBORS ***
By John Feffer

(Ed. Note: As NATO marks its 50th anniversary in Washington this week, it
finds itself immersed in a war in the Balkans, raining bombs on the Yugoslav
federation in the name of humanitarianism. In 1949 the U.S. established NATO
as a military alliance to defend the West against the perceived threat of
Soviet expansionism. When the Soviet Union imploded, the U.S. and other
countries of the Atlantic alliance sought to bring Russia into a strategic
partnership. Today, NATO's new militarism and its expansionism have
undermined that partnership. The following analysis is excerpted from a new
FPIF essay by John Feffer on U.S. policy in the former Soviet Union.)

*** Containment Lite: U.S. Policy Toward Russia and its Neighbors ***

If the U.S. government had wanted to destroy Russia from the inside out, it
couldn't have devised a more effective policy than the so-called "strategic
partnership." From aggressive foreign policy to misguided economic advice to
undemocratic influence-peddling, the U.S. has ushered in a cold peace on the
heels of the cold war. Containment remains the centerpiece of U.S. policy
toward Russia. But it is a "soft" containment. It is Containment Lite.

On the foreign policy front, for instance, Containment Lite has consisted of
a three-tiered effort to isolate Russia: from its neighbors, from Europe,
and from the international community more generally. The Clinton
administration's policy of "geopolitical pluralism," designed to strengthen
key neighbors such as Ukraine and Kazakhstan, has driven wedges into the
loose confederation of post-Soviet states. By pushing ahead recklessly with
expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the U.S.
government is deepening the divide that separates Russia  from Europe,
effectively building a new Iron Curtain down the middle of Eurasia. Instead
of consulting with Russia over key foreign policy issues such as the Iraq
bombings and allied policy toward former Yugoslavia, Washington has
attempted to steer Moscow into a diplomatic backwater where it can exert
little global influence.

Part of this three-tiered foreign policy of "soft" containment has been to
eliminate Russia's last claim to superpower status--its nuclear
arsenal--without providing sufficient funds for mothballing the weapons and
without pursuing commensurate reductions in U.S. stockpiles. By pursuing a
missile defense system, the U.S. has put several arms control treaties in
jeopardy; by opposing key sales of Russian military technology, the U.S. has
applied a double standard on proliferation. Announcing the largest increase
in the military budget since the end of the cold war, the Clinton
administration began 1999 with a clear signal that Russia's decline would
have litt

[CTRL] FW: SEE YOUR U.N. DUES AT WORK! (U WON'T BELIEVE THIS!)

[Peter L. Sroufe]

 -Caveat Lector-

Hell no, Bill wouldn't go -
But He'll send your kids to Kosovo!

Bard

Visit me at:
The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government
http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm

Federal Government defined:
a benefit/subsidy protection racket!

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 3:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SEE YOUR U.N. DUES AT WORK





SEE YOUR U.N. DUES AT WORK
New York Post


 The priorities of refugees fleeing Kosovo would, you'd guess, run
along the lines of food, clean water, dry clothes, basic medical
attention and a place to sleep at a safe distance from flying bullets.
So what does the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) send
to their aid?

Condoms.

"UNFPA recognizes that all refugees and persons in emergency
situations have the same vital human rights, including the right to
reproductive health, as people in any community," declared
UNFPA executive director Nafis Sadik.

Yep, that's right. International organiza-tions like the United
Nations might not be able to prevent you from being chased out of
your home at gunpoint, but it will move heaven and earth to
ensure your right to "reproductive services" when it happens.

Also on UNFPA's list of goodies are "sexually transmitted disease
kits," "complications from abortions kits," "intrauterine devices
(IUDs)" and "vacuum extraction equipment," as well as the
aforementioned condoms.

Nice work, guys. But the U.N. may have really bungled things -
because tort lawyers are sure to sue the U.N. on behalf of the
Kosovars for distributing IUDs.



[Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not Necessarily Endorsed By The
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[CTRL] Fwd: UFO UpDate: The Vatican And UFOs

[Don Allen]

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>From: Adriano Forgione - Futuro Snc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: The Vatican And UFOs
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:02:32 +0200
>
>
>Dear Researchers,
>
>Last Saturday and Sunday I was in Ancona, here in Italy, for a
>National UFO Conference.
>
>I had the chance to interview Monsignor Corrado Balducci, famous
>priest of Vatican that is studying UFOs.
>
>He said to me that he is working only for a personal interest
>and his involvement in UFO study is by Vatican command.
>
>We know that Balducci is involved in the Third Secret of Fatima.
>Most of you know that there is a test that is circulating by 25
>years but was never confermed officially. To my question about
>the test of Third Secret of Fatima, Balducci said:
>
>
>"Yes, that test is correct. The Secret speaks about a Third
>World War before the end of this millenium that will be a fight
>with nuclear weapons. The living people will envy the dead,
>probably for the sufferings of radiation. The secret speaks also
>of a doctrinal crisis of the Christian Church. But that the
>events will be happen only if the Humanity don't mend and don't
>change their violent minds".
>
>
>This is the first time that the Third Secret Of Fatima has been
>confirmed by a member of Vatican.
>
>With me there was Paola Harris.
>
>Adriano Forgione
>editor in Chief of UFO Network and Dossier Alieni
>
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[CTRL] A Yugoslav who made a difference

[Don Allen]

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Nikola Tesla, a natural-born citizen of Belgrade, Yugoslavia. In
my not so humble opinion, probably the greatest Genius of
this century, far surpassing Steinmetz, Edision, Marconi
and Einstein.

Had Edision had his way, we would have been on the DC
system with step-up generators every 5-6 miles, throughout
the country. Thank God for the vision of George Westinghouse,
who fully supported Tesla and his 60 cycle AC power generation.

Had Tesla not be thwarted by the ilk of J.P. Morgan,
we would have long ago experienced real "free-energy"
by his inventions. It is claimed that when Tesla died in the
middle 40's, agents of the "federal government" came and
carted away trunks full of his writings and plans, lest they
fall into the hands of the common person and they freed
themselves from the influences of the evil bankers, oil
interests and power elite statists.

Author, William R. Lynn, in his book, "Space Aliens from
the Pentagon" (Creatopia Productions, Lamy, NM, 87540,
$17.95, 505-466-3022 ) makes a compelling case that
Tesla was the original inventor behind a _workable_
propulsion system for a UFO, that was known about and
actually pilfered by the German rocket scientists, prior
to the allies capturing Berlin in 1945.  To confuse and
throw people off the trail, the author alleges that the
CIA/OSS engaged in a program to create revisionist
history that the German's had their own UFO program,
which if anyone has bothered to look at it, was mostly
crap that wouldn't have ever amounted to anything. The
author draws several ( and in my opinion, very correct)
conclusions about the reasons why the Tesla connection was
covered up, since Operation Paperclip was underway with
the melding of the German intelligence ops with the then
formed CIA/OSI. Essentially, The U.S. brought over legions
of German scientists, NAZI's over to our country, and Canada
right after the conclusion of WWII, and put them immediately into
"service", possibly to work on producing UFOs with Tesla's
technology, for the Secret Government. This might well the
real reason for the National Security Act being passed by
Truman, in 1947. In short, it seems to me that this act by
Truman constitutes an illegal betrayal of American sovreignty
and liberty to hide a technology that only the Secret Government
wanted to themselves.

The book makes some excellent points, ties together quite a few
loose ends and I'd highly recommend it to anyone looking to
put together large portions of the "UFO puzzle". Lynn is an
inventor in his own right and goes to some detailed lengths
to explain the propulsion system of Tesla, included in his book.

Here's some links to Nikola Tesla, a Yugoslav who made a
difference in our world. Think about him the next time you
flip on a light, turn on a radio or watch your TV. Without
him, none of it would have been made possible. If our illegal
government could get away with it totally, they would surely
write Tesla out of history and dismiss him as some crank.


Don

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Nikola Tesla, Complete U.S. Patent Collection


Nikola Tesla (1856-1943)


In Search of Nikola Tesla


frank_germano's_webpageTesla Technology today


Nikola Tesla, Complete U.S. Patent Collection


American Society of Dowsers Bookstore: Nikola Tesla


Nikola Tesla Books


Who 2: Nikola Tesla Profile
 

Nikola Tesla: related WWW links


Nikola Tesla: Tesla Memorial Society, Inc.


Nikola Tesla


AAA The Nikola Tesla Resources


Pennsylvania Department: Nikola Tesla Program: 9 October 1996


Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: A Man Out of Time


Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: Superman at the Waldorf


Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: Forgotten Genius


Penna. Dept.: Nikola Tesla: Westinghouse Museum


The Nikola Tesla Web Site


Home Page Univerzitetske biblioteke "Nikola Tesla" - Nis


Books of Nikola Tesla


82 Documents about 'Tesla'


Nikola Tesla - Man Out of Time


Nikola Tesla: Acknowledgments


Nikola Tesla: Niagara Fa

[CTRL] Patriots Day-April 19

[Mike Moxley]

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MONDAY APRIL 19 1999

Patriots Day by Geoff Metcalf

Today is Patriots Day. My wife grew up in Lexington, Mass., and direct
ancestors of mine fought in the Revolution -- in fact, one of them was on
the Green the day the shot heard around the world was fired. Patriots Day
is, and should be special.

Because today is Patriots Day, I'm refraining from my natural inclination
to rail against the treachery, manipulations, and multiple sins of an
administration staffed with morons, cowards, quislings, and hypocrites, to
reflect on our nations strengths, rather than our weaknesses.

Certain Congress critters may consider the Constitution and Bill of Rights
as antique literature and akin to the clothes they have eaten themselves
out of -- but frankly, they are wrong. The Constitution and Bill of Rights
are not accoutrements, and subject to fashion. Those founding documents are
the foundation upon which the greatest nation in the history of man was
built. Those who would undermine, abrogate, or destroy the foundation, are
in fact, the "domestic enemies" referenced in the very same oath most of
they have taken.

I was appalled, sickened, and more than a little PO'd, when five years ago
I heard the President of the United States say, for God and everyone to
hear, "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical
Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of
individual freedom to Americans. ..."

He went on to say, "And so a lot of people say there's too much personal
freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit
it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the
public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and
more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities."

I'm not making this up. This is NOT a parody or satire, or Ionessco play.
Clinton actually said this on March 22, 1994 on MTV's "Enough is Enough." I
hate that he said that. I am incensed that he believes it.

Today is Patriots Day. The obvious questions a reasoning person will ask
are Who gets to decide when personal freedom's being abused? Why DO you
have to move to limit it? Who gets to limit freedom? By what measure? And
how?

Thelen Paulk wrote a wonderful piece called "Visitor from the Past" (click
here for entire story). In it, his colonial visitor notes, "We fought a
revolution, to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution, as a shield
from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, in this, the
land of the free and the home of the brave." But Paulk's ghost from America
past observes, "You buy permits to travel, and permits to own a gun.
Permits to start a business, or to build a place for one. On land that you
believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in
choosing, how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that
doesn't educate. Your Christian values can't be taught, according to the
state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. You pay a tax
you do not owe, to please the foreign IRS. Your money is no longer made of
silver, or of gold. You trade your wealth for paper, so your lives can be
controlled."

Gary Hildreth penned another inspiring piece which some claim is
apocryphal. He started by asking and answering a question about a bunch of
old dead white guys. Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who
signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the
British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes
ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons in the Revolutionary Army;
another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds
or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their
lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. He continues with a litany
of horror stories, and concludes, "These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing
ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had
security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and
unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm
reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to
each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books
never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't
just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought
our own government! Perhaps you can now see why our founding fathers had a
hatred for standing armies, and allowed through the Second Amendment for
everyone to be armed. Some of us take these liberties so much for granted.
We shouldn't.

A few months ago I was sitting in the office of a California Assemblyman
who is both brilliant, and a strong Constitutional Conservative. I don't
happen to consider the two items to be unrelated. Assemblyman Tom
McClintock is re

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[CTRL] "Kosovo War Syndrome" Likely (fwd)

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"KOSOVO WAR SYNDROME" LIKELY


(CNNS,  04/19/99)  --  "For many years the United States has been
using depleted  uranium,  a  by-product  from  the  production of
enriched fuel for nuclear reactors and  weapons,  to  manufacture
shells,  bullets  and  protective  armour  of tanks.  This excess
uranium, composed mainly of  the  uranium isotope U-238 is called
'depleted' because it has a lower  than  normal  content  of  the
isotope  U-235,  the  fissionable  material.  But it has one very
'excellent'  property;  it  is  extremely  dense  and  capable of
penetrating heavily armored vehicles." [1]

This means that a depleted  uranium  (DU) shell will go through a
tank's armor like a hot knife through butter.  That's why,  since
about 1990, it's become the latest craze in war.

Besides dropping "cluster bombs"  on  Yugoslavia,  NATO  is  also
using  these  depleted  uranium shells in its current "conflict."
"The broader public  is  mostly  uninformed  about  the fact that
30-millimetre ammunition fired by the GAU-8A gun mounted  on  the
American  A-10 aircraft, contains depleted uranium and that it is
on the list of the  ammunition  which  has been prohibited by the
Geneva Convention, as are cluster bombs, sources in the  Konghill
Laboratories in Great Britain have stated..." [2]

"The pointed  bullet  made  from  depleted  uranium  in a plastic
casing which significantly increases its  penetrating  power,  is
also  used  in  the  manufacture  of  warheads for the 'Tomahawk'
cruise missiles, which are  used  for the destruction of concrete
facilities."  [3]

The explosion of these DU shells "creates uranium oxide which  is
dispersed  into particles the size of 0.5 to 5 microns, which, if
carried by  the  wind  may  be  dispersed  to  areas  hundreds of
kilometres away from the site."  [4]

"It has also been pointed  out  that  the  life  period  of  that
substance  is  about  one  million  years  and  that it cannot be
removed from the body, exposing  to radiation caused diseases and
the possibility of an early death not only  the  people  who  are
shot  by  it,  but  also  the  persons  who handle that dangerous
ammunition." [5]

Something  to think about:  will your son or daughter be handling
depleted uranium shells soon? Are they doing so already??

After the Vietnam War,  there  was  a mysterious illness plaguing
returning veterans; the Pentagon stonewalled for years before  it
finally  admitted  the  toxic  effects  had  been caused by Agent
Orange.  After the  Persian  Gulf  War,  many  U.S. veterans also
suffered from a mysterious illness,  called  Gulf  War  Syndrome.
But  Washington,  DC is again stonewalling about what it is.  The
Project Censored 1997  Yearbook  lists  the  link  between use of
depleted uranium shells during the Gulf  War  and  the  Gulf  War
Syndrome as one of its "Top 25 Censored Stories of 1997." [6]

Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark has called for a ban on
the use of DU weapons, calling them "an  unacceptable  threat  to
life,  a  violation  of international law and an assault on human
dignity."  According to Clark,  "Of  the  697,000 U.S. troops who
served in the Gulf, over 90,000 have reported  medical  problems.
Symptoms  include  respiratory,  liver  and  kidney  dysfunction,
memory  loss,  headaches,  fever,  low blood pressure.  There are
birth defects among  their  newborn  children.   DU  is a leading
suspect for a portion of these  ailments.   The  effects  on  the
population  living  in Iraq are far greater.  Under pressure, the
Pentagon has been forced  to  acknowledge  Gulf War Syndrome, but
they are still stonewalling any connection to DU." [7]

"After  the  war  in Bosnia, during which NATO also used depleted
uranium ammunition in its attacks,  there  has been a rise in the
recorded number of cases of leukemia  in  the  areas  where  A-10
aircraft had been involved." [8]

Since its beginning in 1942, at the  Massachusetts  Institute  of
Technology's  metallurgical  lab,  the  Starmet  Corporation "has
continued  to  be  a  leader  in  new  materials  development and
innovative  technology  serving  the  global  marketplace."   The
Starmet   Corporation   manufactures   depleted   uranium(DU)
ammunition.  Indeed, boasts Starmet at their web site, "Starmet's
low cost DU manufacturing capabilities make it one of the leading
suppliers  of  low  cost  ammunition  for U.S. government weapons
systems.  Our anti-armor tank penetrator munitions helped bring a
quick conclusion to the Desert Storm conflict." [9]

Will we be seeing,  in  the  not-too-distant  future,  widespread
occurrences  of  a  "Kosovo War Syndrome," secretly caused by the
continued  use  of  these  depleted  uranium  weapons?   Will our
soldiers,  returning  from  Kosovo,  first  be  given  a  heroes'
welcome, but then  get  tossed  on  the  slag  heap  by  actually
indifferent  Washington  leaders?   Our ill soldier-heroes of the
Gulf War were 

[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: EXTRA

[Mack White]

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>From: "Aleksandar Zograf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: EXTRA
>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:28:40 +0200
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Status:
>
>Sasa Rakezic
>P.F.163
>26000 Pancevo
>Yugoslavia /Serbia/
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>April 18th 1999
>10AM
>
>Shortly after I have posted you the message last night, I was reading the
>"response" to my letters (exposed via internet) by some annonimous "fan":
>"Yoshi - You deserve what you get. Our President Clinton is a good man. If
>he is bombing you then you must deserve it. You Serb".I was wandering what
>"Yoshi" could mean, when the big blast has interrupted my toughts...It was
>about 1AM, and the detonation was by far the most horrible one that I have
>experienced ...(yet?). All three industries in the town were hit by several
>projectiles. The explosion turned night into the day ,strange, spooky,
>red-light day. While it was happening I had to turn down the computer,
>which takes some time, damn it.
>( Later I heard from a friend who said that some people were having a kid's
>birthday party at the basement in the center of the town, the music was
>loud, and they were all (kid's parents and friends) drunk already, but when
>they saw that there was a blast that lightened the basement window and the
>whole street fairly far away from the Industrial Zone, they were quite
>shaken...).
>I phoned to our friend Nandor ( the editor of Kulturbunt fanzine,
>remember?), and he was ready to sit in the car and leave the town, with his
>mother, wife and two kids. Nandor's sister-in-law gave a birth to a baby
>boy three days ago, here in Pancevo...
>Anyway, soon we were able to see people in cars, or riding bikes and
>motorcycles and going out of the neighboring industrial area...
>The biggest problem of all is, of course, the Petrochemical industry - they
>are producing plastic materies, used in the production of plastic bags,
>hoses etc.(nothing to do with the military equipment or something. Except
>for the fact that ANYTHING could be used in a military, one way or another.
>They will probably use this logic as an excuse to bomb EVERYTHING, and
>still call it "selective" ). Anyway, the regular production of
>Petrochemical industry requires use of the toxical materies such as gas
>called vinyl-chloride-monomer (I'm not sure if this is correct in English).
>It does not have a color or smell, and when freed -  in smaller quantities
>it makes you laugh hysterically, and in bigger quantities - it is a deadly
>poison...
>Anyway, after the first bombing, they were trying to empty their tanks (or
>what is it called) with that VCM gas, and it has to be done , as far as I
>understand , by BURNING the remaining quantities, which takes some
>time...It seems that during the last night bombing STILL some quantities of
>VCM were in the tanks which were hit by the NATO projectiles... The firemen
>went to pull out the fire in all of the plants except Petrochemical ones,
>as it seems that it's safer if the gas is left to burn in the fire. The
>wind was blowing in the direction of the river Danube, and again the people
>from the town were lucky...Until the early morning, at about 3AM, when the
>wind changed direction, and pulled the smoke into the direction of the
>center of the town. At that point firemen were headed to Petrochemical
>plants
>Gordana and I decided to stay at home and watch the development of the
>situation. After some time we went to bed, with radio on. I had a strangely
>vivid dreams, for the first time since the strikes began. Not very
>interesting dreams, though, mostly just nonsense. Gordana and I were siting
>in a bar with friends, and the members of The Rolling Stones were there as
>well. I was never a huge fan of the group (except for the earliest
>material) , but I tryed to sound friendly, and so were they.
>When we woke up, one part of the town was covered with white mist. The
>other part was covered with dark grey, black cloud coming from the Oil
>Refinery, which is still burning.The black cloud was up above the ground
>level, heading its way to the place where my parents live...They don't have
>a phone in their house, so I will have to go and visit them later today
>The mayor of Pancevo appeared on Tv and said that the situation is not
>alarming at the moment, but still is far from normal. He called people not
>to leave their houses and to follow the news. He also said that this was an
>obvuious attempt of killing the town...He also mentioned that during the
>beginning of the raids there were a regular trains with the cargo
>containing toxic materies , travelling from Romania to Turkey, and it was
>again a mere coincidence that a huge catastrophy was not produced...
>They said on the radio that 4 firemen were taken to hospital, because of
>the smoke poisoning. Also, some of the workers from the industrial zone
>were injured.
>Bye now
>Sasa

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[CTRL] Jones Suspected Clinton Role in Mysterious Deaths

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Paula Jones feared for her life while pressing her lawsuit against President
Clinton and thinks he may have played a role in a number of mysterious
deaths of potential witnesses against him.

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For the story behind the story...
Sunday April 18, 4:10 PM
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Saturday April 17, 8:57 AM

Jones Suspected Clinton Role in Mysterious Deaths

Paula Jones feared for her life while pressing her lawsuit against President
Clinton and thinks he may have played a role in a number of mysterious
deaths of potential witnesses against him.

Jones, appearing Friday night on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," was
asked whether she suspected that Clinton was responsible for the deaths -- a
list numbering, according to some, more than 50 people who were associated
with one Clinton controversy or another. Some of the more prominent Clinton
friends to die in the midst of scandal were Vince Foster, Ron Brown and
James McDougal.

Jones responded, "He may not be hands-on in doing it, but I think maybe he
has some part in some of this stuff. Because there's just too many of them
that have come up dead or missing that have had some kind of bond or have
been in business or some kind of dealings with Clinton."

Prior to the stunning comment, Sean Hannity questioned Jones about concerns
for her own safety:

HANNITY: Paula, you have stated in the past that you, and Linda Tripp has
stated as well, have even feared for your life. You even went on to say that
you want the whole world to know that you don't drive crazy, that you
wouldn't run off the road, that you're not suicidal, that you love life, you
love your children, and you'd never kill yourself. And you wanted to say
that to a national audience. Why? What do you fear?

JONES: Well, there's been a lot of people that have come up dead in
Arkansas. And I've had a lot of people ask me, 'Aren't you scared for your
life?' And actually, I have been. Even [Clinton attorney] Bob Bennett said a
quote one time on CNN that his mother always used to tell him that you
better be careful for what you ask for because you just might get it. And
then he went on to talk about how his dog used to chase cars. And then his
dog was dead and he has a new dog now. And I took that even as a threat.
There were just so many things and I wanted people to know that I'm not like
that and that if I come up strangely dead that I didn't kill myself.

One of the "many things" Jones may have had in mind was the fate of Kathy
Ferguson, the ex-wife of the co-defendant named in her lawsuit, Arkansas
state Trooper Danny Ferguson. Kathy's friends have told reporters that she,
too, claimed that Clinton had sexually harassed her and that she knew "Paula
was telling the truth."

On May 13, 1994, just five days after Jones filed suit, Ferguson was found
shot to death in her Sherwood, Ark., apartment. Police ruled it a suicide.

A month later, her police officer boyfriend, Bill Shelton, was also found
dead, his body sprawled across Kathy's grave. The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
reported that Shelton died from a single gunshot wound behind the ear.
Police again ruled suicide.

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Leaflets, Bombs and Patriotic Songs

[Mack White]

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>From: "Aleksandar Zograf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Leaflets, bombs and patriotic songs
>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:25:23 +0200
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>Sasa Rakezic
>P.F.163
>26000 Pancevo
>Yugoslavia /Serbia/
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>April 15th 1999
>
>Hello
>Well, Gordana came back from work today ( she works at a fruit plantation
>as an agriculture engineer ), where they spotted leaflets falling from the
>sky. It turned out to be NATO propaganda leaflets, written in Serbian,
>with all those NATO trade marks, and announcment: "We want to talk to you"!
>Ha ha, it was almost like a WW2 iconography, something  that we all
>remember from the ancient  black and white movies... You would hardly
>expect stuff like that from the NATO sophisticates.I will keep the leaflets
> for my
>collection anyway!
>On the other side,  Tv programs here are filled with the insults and war
>propaganda language, not too far away from the WW2 neither...I still
>remember that , when the bombing campaign began, I heard  a Serbian Tv
>Newsreel speaker calling  Clinton " a semi-talented saxophone player". I
>was wondering - if they really wanted to sound offensive, why haven't they
>just
>called him a "BAD saxophone player"?
> It is all so silly. And the silliest of all are the "patriotic" songs,
>done in a style of "band aid", with all of the dullest pop singers posing
>in front of camera etc. I always found those "band aid" projects boring to
>tears, and on top of all
>the tragedy we have to watch their video clips over and over again... Not
>to mention the fact that even Michael Jackson , as I was informed by a
>friend , had already recorded a song about the Kosovo refugees...It's true
>what they say: war is hell!
>OOPS! While I was writing this, I was interrupted by detonation. Several
>NATO projectiles hit the (industrial) Southern Zone of Pancevo! This was
>close to our home - less than 1km, and we felt the strong vibration, but
>luckily the window glass was still in one piece... It was dangerous because
>they hit the Artifical Fertilizer Factory (where they work with poisoneus
>gases) and Petrochemical plants - during the same strike! It looked rather
>eerie, with three flames burning with large intensity, and just few munutes
>after the sounds of explosions we saw people running in their cars, trying
>to go out of the place... The smoke was heading in the direction of the
>part of the town called Topola, and the radio announcment was giving the
>instruction for the people there to leave to the other parts... Gordana and
>I went on the top of our apartment building, where the younger people
>gathered to watch the sad "spectacle"
>Soon the economy of the town will be almost completely ruined, of course.
>On the radio there were news about more bridges and more industrial plants
>being destroyed all over the country, more people killedAnother night
>in Serbia.
>Bye
>Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Beautiful Day?

[Mack White]

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>From: "Aleksandar Zograf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Beautiful day?
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:15:46 +0200
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>Sasa Rakezic
>P.F.163
>26000 Pancevo
>Yugoslavia /Serbia/
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>April 14th 1999
>
>Hello everybody -
>Today I went around town on my bike, and it was really a beautiful spring
>day... I saw a three-colored cat chasing a mouse in a grass near the
>refugee camp in my town...The camp (based in complex of ex-army barracks)
>was full of Serbian refugees from Bosnia and Croatia, who were kicked out
>of their homes, to come to the country where they have to fear the bombs
>again... I was thinking about the "parallel" realities, as I couldn't help
>enjoying the springtime, even though I guessed that there must be some
>Armageddonish type of event going on at the same time someplace else in
>this country... Later I saw a Tv recording of a NATO bombing of a town of
>Valjevo - the camera stood still for maybe 15 minutes, and you could see
>the explosions and mushroom clouds bursting in the distance from time to
>time. And all the while you were able to hear birds from the near-by
>meadow, singing their sweet song with no interuption.
>Later I saw the pictures of the convoy of poor Albanian refugees, kicked
>out of their homes, which were for some reason today bombed by the NATO
>projectilesMore than 60 people were killed...A horror...
> In this part of the world, everybody will have to bear with the absurd,
>stressful line of events.
>Yesterday they bombed the emptied army barracks in the suburb of Belgrade,
>and very close to the targeted place is a hospital with many of the people
>(from all over Serbia) who were already injured during the previous NATO
>bombings!...The building was demaged by the detonation, and the broken
>glass from the windows fell on the patiens, and in one of the rooms a
>ceiling  fell on one of the hospitalized persons...
>  As for the much lighter topics, I received a mock-up version of my new
>comic book (Psychonaut #3), which will come out with a small  publisher in
>U.S.(MonsterPants Comics) and will be helped by a movie/video  production
>house (Freight Films).The package with a mock-up version of the comic book
>was probably one of the last things that I received from abroad after the
>beginning of this war, as the fluctuation of the snail mail is very
>questionable...It's funny that I have never even been to US, even though I
>have many American friends, and  despite the fact that most of my comics
>were originally published there. I tought that it is good that, while our
>governments are busy planning their dirty little war games, we -
>alternative comics people - are still collaborating and understanding each
>other so well...
>Greetings to all
>Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Oil Refinery and Monastery

[Mack White]

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>NOTE:  Following is the latest report from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic
>(aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and
>Psychonaut.  He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and is
>staying in contact with the international alternative comics community by
>e-mail.

>From: "Aleksandar Zograf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Oil Refinery and Monastery
>Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:24:45 +0200
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>Sasa Rakezic
>P.F.163
>26000 Pancevo
>Yugoslavia /Serbia/
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>April 13th 1999.
>
>Where is this leading to? The flame in the Oil Refinery in Pancevo was
>still burning after the bombing last night, when - at 5.33 AM, we were
>waken by one of the strongest detonations yet... And soon after that, at
>5.50 AM , another bomb fell on the same plant, with the explosion of the
>same intensity... By a mere coincidence, Gordana had to go to work today a
>little bit later... Her bus to work is passing near the Oil Refinery, at
>egzactly the time of the first bombing (she works from 6 AM to 2 PM during
>the summer, but they will have to change the shedule, as it is becoming
>dangerous) !! Later, when she went to work, she found out that some of her
>colegues were in the bus, while the bomb fell just 500 meters away. We will
>find out more "details" tomorrow.
>The good thing about the last two projectiles is that , despite the very
>strong detonation, they haven't produced the large flame or the cloud of
>big smoke, which is dangerous for the whole town and many settlements in
>the surroundings... Still, everybody was shaken by so many bombings of the
>industrial area in Pancevo, in just two days... Some of our neighbors work
>at the Oil Refinery, and they were watching as their working spaces were
>being torn to pieces. During and after the war in Ex-Yugoslavia, and
>sanctions against Serbia, Oil Rafinery was one of the very few companies in
>town which were actually economically reliable.
>Except for the fact that the whole complex of plants was built very close
>to the town, another thing which speaks about the unbelieveable ignorance
>of the planers from the Tito's era is the fact that Oil Refinery was built
>around the Orthodox Monastery built (according the legend) in 13th
>Century!! The very sight of old Monastery surrounded by Oil Refinery is one
>of the more surrealistic sights that you can see anywhere. Bombs exploding
>around it makes it even more unreal... It is also rather ironic that nobody
>even said anything about the conditions of the Monastery after the bombing,
> we just heard that the glasses on the windows were broken, which is usual
>for the buildings in the imediate zone of the bombing.
>Hey, I speak less and less about comics in these letters... And I don't
>like it.
>Bye
>Sasa

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[CTRL] "Waco" Explodes on HBO

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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 With NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Sunday April 18, 4:10 PM

"Waco" Explodes on HBO

"Waco: The Rules of Engagement," the acclaimed documentary about the worst
government atrocity in American history, makes its small-screen debut Monday
night on cable and satellite TV's Home Box Office. For Americans who've
become convinced that character and integrity in high places no longer
matter, "Waco" is an historic bit of must-see-TV.

Though the press adopted the party line after Clinton AG Janet Reno launched
a military-style attack on worshippers at the Branch Davidian compound, the
nation has never recovered from the after-effects of the massacre.
Twenty-five children were barbecued to death on the Clinton administration's
direct orders, and not a single government official was ever held
accountable.

Now, for the first time, a mass audience can judge for themselves -- based
on facts and testimony the American media have suppressed for six years.
Certainly the reviewers were impressed when "Waco" was first released in
1997.

"One of the top 10 films of the year," raved the Los Angeles Times.

"['Waco' reveals] photographic evidence that the FBI, contrary to its
official assertions, fired on, then torched the Branch Davidian compound. A
duzy of an investigative expose," exclaimed the New York Times.

Even movie-meisters Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert gave "Waco" an enthusiastic,
if somewhat stunned, two thumbs up.

Times for Monday's HBO "Waco" broadcast vary across the nation. In New York,
it airs at 6:30 p.m. Check your local listings.

===

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Attractive to NATO

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>From: "Aleksandar Zograf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Attractive to NATO
>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:37:20 +0200
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>Sasa Rakezic
>P.F.163
>26000 Pancevo
>Yugoslavia /Serbia/
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>
>April 17th 1999
>
>Hello everybody!
>Yesterday it was unusually quiet, even eerie in Pancevo - the town was
>almost emptied during the night. All of us who remained were looking at the
>industrial part of town, fearing that the bombing of Petrochemical plant
>would produce a catastrophy...
>Few minutes before I started to write the message, there was a "battle" in
>the sky, with Antiaircraft Defence forces shooting, and the roar of the
>airplanes...They are reporting on the radio that "the activity of the NATO
>aircrafts is very busy in the sky over Belgrade", probably heading to the
>South of the country.The sound of the aircrafts is something that you feel
>deep inside your stomach, and once that you hear it, it's very hard to
>forget it - it is not just a sound, it is something that you remeber with
>your "guts".
>On Tv they showed a guy who was ( just like many workers from the Yugoslav
>construction companies) working in Iraq , during the NATO strikes in a Gulf
>War... He later went back to his native Bosnia, to a small town near
>Srajevo, which was demarked as a  Serbian territory , and bombed by NATO in
>1995...After that, poor guy moved to a suburban part of Belgrade
>(Sremcica) which was exposed to a heavy bombings few days ago, and his
>house was demaged... He is a funny looking guy, and it seemed that he is
>attracting mighty NATO forces wherever he goes...
>OK, as for my own activities,  more than 3 weeks after the strikes began, I
>started to work on a new comic
>I can hear many detonations in the direction of Belgrade... See you later,
>folks!
>Bye
>Sasa

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: EXTRA 2

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>From: "Aleksandar Zograf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: EXTRA 2
>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:33:23 +0200
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>Sasa Rakezic
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>April 17th, 7PM
>
>There was an announcment by the expert, who said that they were measuring
>the toxication in Pancevo since the begining of the bombing last night. In
>the town area, the degree of toxication was dependentent of the direction
>of the wind. At 4 and 5 AM, they said that the quantity of  Vinyl Chloride
>Monomer gas, in some parts of the town, was about 7200 times larger than
>allowed by international standards! He also said that, as far as they know,
>this is the first time that such a quantity of that gas is poured out in
>the human settlement, and that Petrochemical and Artifical Fertilizer
>plants were not bombed in the wars this far.
>Another report said that around 50 people were intoxicated, but the
>informations are very scarce... Today we were riding the bike, and we were
>watching the enormous black smoke coming out of Oil Refinery, and spreading
>over the town. Still, while I'm writing this, the huge flame is coming out
>from the several plants at the Refinery, 18 hours after the bombing...
>Until soon
>Sasa

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[CTRL] TOP POLITICAL STORY-Cox Report

[Peter L. Sroufe]

Cox scolds administration for sealing Chinese spy report



By Joyce Howard Price
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

"Asked if he's saying there are still leaks within U.S. nuclear weapons
labs, Mr. Cox said: "There's not much question that what has already gone
out the barn door is continuing right now. That kind of thing hasn't yet
been solved."

 http://www.washtimes.com/politics/toppolitical.html

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[CTRL] "25 children were barbecued to death on the Clinton administration's direct orders."

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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"Times for Monday's HBO "Waco" broadcast vary across the nation. In New
York,
it airs at 6:30 p.m. Check your local listings."

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml

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[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Where Is This Leading To?

[Mack White]

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>From: "Aleksandar Zograf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Where is this leading to?
>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:52:59 +0200
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>Sasa Rakezic
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>April 16th 1999.
>
>Hello!
>Well, yesterday  was a pretty harsh day, so I will keep this message short.
>After I have sent you the last letter (remeber: they bombed all the plants
>in the industrial zone of the town of Pancevo,during the single strike!),
>there was another attack on Oil Refinery late at night. The poisenous gas
>(I forgot it's name, will try to check it out tomorrow) still remained in
>the tanks of the Petrochemical Industry, and if they drop another bomb
>tonight...It could be pretty bad, you see.
>Anyway, nobody believed that NATO would REALLY bomb all those plants, as
>they do not have anything to do with the military industry, fuel for the
>trucks and military vehicles, or anything like that. That was the reason
>why the whole industrial complex kept up working more or less with the full
>steam. The workers were evacuated in the shelters, though, after the air
>raid sirens were on - and (thank god!) just few people were injured after
>the bombs hit their targets.
>I haven't even woke up Gordana during the last strike and bombing of Oil
>Refinery; she was so tired, and needed a rest before going to work, that
>she haven't even woke up after the detonation... It  seemed so stupid, so
>unreal - to watch from the top of our apartment building all those
>industries burning last night... I felt so empty inside. Tomorrow morning,
>I felt as if I was beaten up or slapped in the faceI took my bike and
>went to the area which was bombed, trying to imagine the drama during the
>moments of the explosions...
>I remembered that only 10 days before the strikes began ,  the members of
>my "Kitchen" comics workshop gathered together to go to the "excursion" to
>the Monastery around which was built the complex of plants by Oil
>Refinery... The Monastery was restored and open for the visitors only
>recently, and for most of us (including me) it was the first time to really
>see it from the inside...The sight of mediavel building captured by the
>poluted modern technology , and parts of the Monestery, designed for
>meditation and self-reflection,   turned into busy Oil Refinery offices -
>it all seemed so drastic , that we made a couple of collaborative drawings,
>pretty Apocaliptic in style and mood... Little did we know that only 10
>days later this area will become  the space where the "Doomsday" style of
>event will take place, and that the poor Monastery will be demaged
>by...bombs?! After the first bombing of Oil Rafinery, some of the workers
>were injured, some were burned, some of them had their limbs and heads torn
>apart... How more Apocaliptic can you get?
>Anyway, everybody was disturbed by the fact that it is  obvious that NATO
>targets are becoming less and less predictive, or that the whole bombing
>campaign is going out of control. There were reports of bombs falling
>everywhere - civilian houses, post offices,backyards,open fields, even
>hen-houses.
>OK - that is enough for now,
>Bye
>Sasa

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

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Hi all,

Turns out this was a satire.  Oh well, live and learn...  I gobbled up the
bait on this one - gulp! *blush*

Hilary


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> Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
> Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 1:27 PM
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>
> Hiliary:
>I;m in the process of checking out this article but from what I
found
> out Onion may just write heavy duty satires!  I got Rep Helen Chenowith
> looking into it!  Will let you know what I find out!
>
> God Bless
> Bill
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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

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> From: Joe New <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
> Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 2:04 PM
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> - Original Message -
> From: Hilary A. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
>
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> > > http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html
> > >  HREF="http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html">American
> > > People Ruled Unfit To Govern
> >
> > This is probably the most damaging event that could happen to the
American
> > People!!!  Why isn't this blasted on all the air waves?  This
effectively
> > AND legally turns us into a bunch of cows.  Moo  Damn it to Hell!!!
> > What the F@$%$ is going on with this country???
> >
> > Hilary
>
> Hey, it's just a joke.  Geez...
>
> Joe

So, I have learned...*blush*

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

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Don't blush Hillary.  It is a sad commentary of the state of our country
when we believe this article to be true.  That in and of itself is very
telling.
Amelia

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[CTRL] OEN 4/19/99

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
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http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe
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Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia

Angry Skies Over Serbia

Huge Toxic Cloud Unleashed by NATO Bombs



Angry Skies Over Serbia

A TOWN IN SERBIA, Apr. 18 - "What is the whether like where you are?", a
young doctor asked a friend located in a town some 100 miles away.
"Unfortunately, it's clear and sunny today."

"Oh, shucks!"

In most places around the globe, people cheer the "nice, sunny" days. In
Serbia, they dread them. Because the deadly payloads which the NATO has
been dropping on the country for 26 days now are likely to intensify in
clear weather.

Last night was clear night. And it was one of the most devastating in
the northern part of Serbia. The town in which this writer spent the
night was in the thick of things. The NATO "concert" started at about
8:40PM on April 17. At least that's when the air raid sirens went off.
As the night progressed, the sounds of war symphony coupled with human
agony grew louder until the final crescendo in the early morning hours.

All the while, your editor stayed on-line, writing the Day 25 Bulletin,
and occasionally answering the reports which we have been receiving
daily from TiM's eyes and ears all over Serbia, and from around the
world. Here's an excerpt from one such exchange with a journalist friend
in New York, which took place "live" last night at 9:30PM GMT:

JOURNALIST: "I do understand why you are so upbeat to be in Belgrade
very much! I'm quite jealous myself. I so admire the Serbs and their
defiance - God Bless them each and every one."

[TiM Ed.: "Thanks for your support… Right now, we are under another air
attack. The anti-aircraft artillery is drowning out the sound of the
airplanes' jet engines. Loud explosions all around. It's hard to see
what is being hit. The only thing visible are the AAA tracer rounds. Yet
here I am writing and hopefully sending this e-mail to you. Life goes
on, as it will well after NATO's dogs of war are locked up in a
kennel."]

Before that, however, they continue to bite everything in sight. Ten
minutes after the above message was sent, a huge explosion shook the
neighborhood. For a few seconds, the sky lit up as if it were the Fourth
of July fireworks. Instead, another million dollar NATO/Pentagon
missiles was blown to smithereens before reaching its designated target.
Which appeared to be a nearby bridge (also see a photo of AAA fire over
Belgrade - at our Web site).

At about the same time, TiM's correspondents from Novi Sad reported that
the second largest city in Serbia was once again under heavy attack. And
again, the Novi Sad refinery, which has not been active for eight years
(!), was among the NATO targets. The refinery ceased its production when
the oil pipeline which runs through Croatia was cut off in 1991, when
the civil war in the former Yugoslavia broke out.

A few minutes later, a deep thud shook the ground in our neighborhood.
In the morning, we found out that some empty barracks, a couple of miles
away, which had been hit before, were hit again last night. Both that
and the Novi Sad example, illustrate the pointlessness and
ineffectiveness of NATO's bombings. They scare the local civilians out
of their wits, night after night (and sometimes in broad daylight, too),
without achieving any military objectives whatsoever. (continued in the
next story…)




Huge Toxic Cloud Unleashed by NATO Bombs

PANCEVO, Apr. 18 - Last night's attack against a Pancevo chemical
factory was a case in point (see above). The NATO bombs caused huge
fires which released toxic fumes into the atmosphere. This afternoon, as
your editor returned to Belgrade, a plume of black smoke was visible
from 50 miles away. And even now, at about 3PM GMT, the black toxic
cloud is clearly visible over the northeastern Belgrade suburbs from
this writer's hotel.
For your information, Pancevo is about as close to downtown Belgrade as
Central Park is to the World Trade Towers in New York. Here's an excerpt
from an e-mail which we've just received from two professors of the
Belgrade University:

"We are faced with serious ecological catastrophe.

Heavy bombing of the factories of the Petrochemical Complex in Pancevo
has been repeated* last night (18th April, about 01:00 local time).
Ammonia plant ("Azotara") and Vinyle Chloride Monomere (VCM) plant
("Petrohemija") have been destroyed completely. Huge dark cloud appeared
over the city of Pancevo (northern suburb of Belgrade). The cloud is
expanding in northwest direction.

According to Encyclopaedia Britannica vinyl chloride, also called
chloroethylene, a colourless, flammable, toxic gas belonging to the
family of organic halogen compounds, is used principally in making
polyvinyl chloride, an important synthetic resin. Prolonged exposure of
h

[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NATO would have favored Confederacy

[Kris Millegan]

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NATO would have favored Confederacy

Boston Herald
4/19/99 Don Feder


To justify Mr. Clinton's merry little war, Yugoslav President Slobodan
Milosevic - who's unlikely to be mistaken for Father Christmas - is depicted
as a monster to rival the century's most notorious ideological killers.
(``The Face of Evil,'' shrills the cover story in the April 19 Newsweek.)

Of what does Milosevic stand accused? Adopting brutal tactics to deal with a
rebellion? Abraham Lincoln did as much.

Milosevic is fighting the Kosovo Liberation Army to keep his nation intact.
Lincoln went to war with secessionists to preserve the Union, which was then
less than 100 years old. Kosovo has been Serbian since the 12th century.

Lincoln didn't just make war on the Army of Northern Virginia. The Union
Navy's blockade of Southern ports destroyed its trade and resulted in
massive suffering.

If C-SPAN had broadcast from the South 135 years ago, it would have shown
civilians in full flight, troops burning houses and crops, and widespread
looting.

William Tecumseh Sherman said, ``War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it,''
then proceeded to prove his maxim. The Union general captured and burned
Atlanta and Columbia, S.C., the latter out of pure spite.

On his march to the sea, Sherman cut a swath 60 miles wide. Fields were
stripped clean, houses were pillaged, almost every structure was burned to
the ground.

These terror tactics were designed to demoralize the Confederate homefront
and hasten the war's end.

The devastation wasn't confined to Sherman's march. The beautiful Shenandoah
Valley, breadbasket of the Confederacy, was turned into a wasteland. Ulysses
Grant boasted that the valley would be picked so clean that ``crows flying
over it for the balance of the season will have to carry their provender
with them.''

By the war's end, Southern agriculture and industry were in ruins. It's
estimated the South lost two-thirds of its total wealth.

Milosevic is said to be a tyrant who brutally suppresses dissent in
Yugoslavia. Lincoln threw men into jail for voicing their opinions.

As historian David Herbert Donald explains, Lincoln ``suspended the
privilege of the writ of habeas corpus throughout the country and authorized
the arbitrary arrest of any person `guilty of any disloyal practice,
affording aid and comfort to the rebels against the authority of the United
States.' ''

This led to the imprisonment, without trial, of hundreds of Southern
sympathizers and anti-war activists, including newspaper editors and, in one
case, an ex-congressman. Our 16th president believed these steps were
necessary to deal with an unparalleled crisis.

Lincoln insisted on unconditional surrender of the Confederacy and spurned
foreign offers to arbitrate. (No Rambouillet for him.) He knew Britain and
France would sacrifice American unity for peace and trade.

Just as the Serbs could give up Kosovo, Lincoln could have let the South go
its way. Instead, he plunged the nation into the bloodiest conflict in our
history.

Throughout the South, 4 percent of the population (soldiers and civilians,
free as well as slaves) died as a result of the war.

The analogy between the Civil War and the war in Kosovo breaks down, as
analogies must. There were no mass graves in Dixie. Then again, Robert E.
Lee and Jefferson Davis weren't drug-smuggling thugs.

The foregoing is meant neither as an indictment of the Great Emancipator nor
an exoneration of Milosevic. Lincoln did what was necessary to preserve the
Union. America, the greatest force for good in this century, would have been
reduced to a basket case if the rebellion had succeeded.

Milosevic is unlikely to be mistaken for the man who urged ``malice toward
none and charity for all.''

Still, the Serbs are fighting what amounts to a secessionist movement.
Assuming Milosevic is guilty of war crimes, his conduct doesn't negate the
Serbs' right to land that constitutes 10 percent of their country and
contains one-third of its energy reserves.

Had NATO been around in the middle of the last century, to promote stability
in the Western Hemisphere, Lincoln would have been forced to grant the
rebellious states autonomy for three years. Thereafter, Southerners would
have been free to determine their future.

Instead, the Land of Cotton Liberation Army was defeated. But Dixie had its
revenge. It gave us Clinton.

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Journalist Paul Watson denies NATO
reports on massacres
April 17, 1999

OTAWA, 15 April - Journalist of Los Angeles
Times, Paul Watson, in the interview given to
Canadian TV network CBC denied assertions
of the NATO generals that Serbian army is
massacring Albanians in Pristina.

"There is no evidence that Serbian army has
committed massacres of ethnic Albanians in
Pristina", said Watson, who is currently
reporting from Kosmet together with a number
of other foreign journalists. According to
Russian news agency Itar-Tas, Watson emphasized
that his impressions differ from the version
offered by NATO.

Watson explained that he is visiting the areas of
Kosovo in which Albanians live on regular basis and that he has
never seen a body or any sign of a massacre or violence.

It would be very difficult to hide any
uncontrolled massacre of civilians,
stated Watson, and added that there are no
indications of such violence
whatsoever. NATO has been accusing the Serbian
forces for the exodus of hundreds of thousands of
Albanians from Kosovo, says Itar-Tas,
adding that Belgrade always refused such
allegations, arguing that
movement of population in the southern province of
Serbia is caused by NATO bombing.

Watson said that he could not agree with the
governments of NATO member-states which are trying to deny their
responsibility for the exodus in Kosovo.

It is unlikely that such a large-scale exodus
would have happened if it was
not for NATO air strikes, said the Los Angeles
Times journalist.


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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Unusual book]

[Robert Tatman]

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Gerry Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I once came across (in Cambridge University Library, which allows you to
> browse its collection, unlike the Bodleian) a book called (I think) *The
> Rosicrucians*, by someone called Olive Wagner Driver, which argued (?)
> that all Elizabethan literary works of any note (with the sole exception
> of Jonson's) were produced by a cabal of noblemen, all illegitimate sons
> of Queen Elizabeth.  The _Faerie Queene_, for example, was the work of
> Leicester, her sixth son.  The book, I suspect, was 'donated by the
> author'-still, there's nothing like a little Looney-ness to brighten
> one's day.
>
> Peter Groves,
> Department of English,
> Monash University


A quick check of Amazon.com yielded the following equally loony item...

Bacon, Shakespeare and the Rosicrucians
by W.F.C. Wigston
Our Price: $29.95


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John Heydon; The Prophecy of Paracelsus; The Tempest; Venus and Adonis;
Freemasonry; Hermetic and Masonic Origins in the Plays; The Winter's Tale;
Bacon and Antiquity; Hamlet; Sonnets; and more. Discover the intrigue behind
this great emissary of the mystery schools. Essential for Freemasons and
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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

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>Turns out this was a satire.  Oh well, live and learn...  I gobbled up
the
>bait on this one - gulp! *blush*

Other classic headlines from the Onion:

- Texans Elect Gun
- Ugly Girl Dies,  Thousands Do Not Mourn Not-So-Tragic Death
- 5-Year Study Concludes: 5 Years a Long-Ass Time
- Study Links Second-Hand Smoke, Second Hand Coolness
- Reagan Alzheimers Increasingly "Hilarious" Say Doctors
- Cop Slays Partner, Vows to Hunt Self Down
- Clinton: "Fuck This President Shit"
- ACLU Defends Neo-Nazis Right To Burn Down ACLU Office

>Don't blush Hillary.  It is a sad commentary of the state of our
country
>when we believe this article to be true.  That in and of itself is very
>telling.

I've seen "LITO" (for Life Imitates The Onion) to describe these events.
They're commoner than you might think, all over the world.  It's
generally worth checking really incredible stories just to see whether
they were in the Onion first...  some of them are shockingly plausible.

Andrew
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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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--
> From: Don Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
> Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 3:08 PM
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> At 05:04 PM 4/18/99 -0400, Bill Richer wrote:
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >Joe:
> >  Some jokes are too serious.  After a president doing what he did
with
> >Monica in the White House and giving secrets to China and probably
Russia
> >this article was believable!  Yet as I said before it is said that Onion
does
> >satires!
>
> It was a good satire..at least it got some of you going,  and it
definately got
> your attention.
>
> As far as satires go..it didn't seem to me to be that far off the mark.
As a
> nation,
> we're far more concerned as to what the sports scores are, than finding
out
> what's going on in our own government.

True, for the most part we are more concerned with sport scores and sales
at the grocery store than what our government is up to.  The problem is is
that our government is up to SO many things.

The Internet and discussion groups are so helpful in managing the volume
and scope of information and to quickly throw cold water on the screaming
hoaxes that slip through.

I believe that this vehicle has helped tremendously in getting people more
active in government doings.  I know that I have written more to
politicians in the past year than I have ever done before.  It seems to be
the thing to do as most of their mail boxes are over loaded and it is
becoming quite clear that they don't read their email.  However, that
doesn't stop me from posting to them!!! :)

As I have written before, the sad thing is that I would so easily believe
this to be true - not from being a conspiracy nut, but rather because I so
mistrust my government.

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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--
> From: Dennis, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
> Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 10:27 AM
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> >Turns out this was a satire.  Oh well, live and learn...  I gobbled up
> the
> >bait on this one - gulp! *blush*
>
> Other classic headlines from the Onion:
>
> - Texans Elect Gun
> - Ugly Girl Dies,  Thousands Do Not Mourn Not-So-Tragic Death
> - 5-Year Study Concludes: 5 Years a Long-Ass Time
> - Study Links Second-Hand Smoke, Second Hand Coolness
> - Reagan Alzheimers Increasingly "Hilarious" Say Doctors
> - Cop Slays Partner, Vows to Hunt Self Down
> - Clinton: "Fuck This President Shit"
> - ACLU Defends Neo-Nazis Right To Burn Down ACLU Office
>
> >Don't blush Hillary.  It is a sad commentary of the state of our
> country
> >when we believe this article to be true.  That in and of itself is very
> >telling.
>
> I've seen "LITO" (for Life Imitates The Onion) to describe these events.
> They're commoner than you might think, all over the world.  It's
> generally worth checking really incredible stories just to see whether
> they were in the Onion first...  some of them are shockingly plausible.
>
> Andrew

Thanks Andrew,

It's scary just how plausible this scenario could be.

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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Amelia,

It is a sad state of affairs when I so completely distrust my government.
I spend 5-6 hours per day reading news articles.  I hadn't heard a peep
about this and should have known better.  That said, it is my utter
mistrust of our government that would lead me to believe that this type of
action (though deplorable) very likely.  It wouldn't surprise me in the
least if something like this were initiated.

Hilary

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> From: Amelia Kay Edgeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
> Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 10:19 AM
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Don't blush Hillary.  It is a sad commentary of the state of our country
> when we believe this article to be true.  That in and of itself is very
> telling.
> Amelia

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[CTRL] THOUSANDS OF NATO COFFINS ARRIVE IN BRITISH CYPRUS:

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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THOUSANDS OF NATO COFFINS ARRIVE IN BRITISH CYPRUS: EXPECT HEAVY LOSSES
FROM GROUND ATTACK
stratfor.com
April 18, 1999 Stratfor News

1813 GMT, 990418 Ekho Moskvy radio in Moscow cited RIA-Novosti news agency
reports that NATO has delivered thousands of coffins to a British military
base in Cyprus today. The reports suggest NATO is preparing for a ground
attack and expects heavy losses.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a371a56840da8.htm

Hmmhas anyone else heard stuff about this?

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[CTRL] [1]The Bosnian War and the New World Order

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
http://www.weu.int/institute/occasion/1andreat.htm
http://www.weu.int/institute/occasion/1andreat.htm">The Bosnian War
and the New World Order

-
Occasional Papers are essays that, while not necessarily authoritative
or exhaustive, the Institute considers should be made available, as a
contribution to the debate on topical European security issues. They
will normally be based on work carried out by researchers granted awards
by the Institute; they represent the views of the authors, and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Institute, or of WEU in general.
Publication of Occasional Papers will be announced in the Institute's
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OCCASIONAL PAPERS
1
The Bosnian War and the New World Order
Failure and Success of International Intervention
Filippo Andreatta(1)
October 1997


Contents
Executive summary

Introduction

The characteristics of the Bosnian war and of international failure

The causes of failure

The consequences of ambiguity

The causes of peace

Phase I: from the outbreak of hostilities to the VOPP

Phase II: incremental adaptation

Phase III: the end of the war and the Dayton peace

Conclusion and cautionary tales



Executive Summary



The war in Bosnia has witnessed a broad swing in the moods of the
"international community" and of European nations particularly. In the
wake of the end of the Cold War and of the victory in the Gulf War,
expectations run high at the outbreak that collective security would
have been able to deal with regional disturbances. Three years later,
the "international community" had accumulated many frustrations and the
IFOR operation which put an end to the fighting was regarded as a highly
specific one which was unlikely to be repeated in other contingencies.
This paper argues that both the initial and the final attitudes toward
the Bosnian War have been excessive and, somehow, related. The initial
optimism rested on uncertain foundations and was very likely to fail.
 The delusion, in turn, produced a cynical mood in which the initial
mistakes were reversed and substituted with a pessimistic assessment of
the prospects for long term stability. A more balanced attitude would
not have produced such extremes and would have maintained a consensus in
the "international community" for a wise and moderate engagement in
regional stability.

The initial enthusiasm brought about an unrealistic strategy which did
not adequately balance ends and means. The Vance-Owen Peace Plan,
despite the fact that it was bitterly criticized at the time for
rewarding aggression, required a Bosnian Serb retreat from 27% of
Bosnian territory to a total 43%, while the various cantons assigned to
the three communities were displayed in a patchwork and would have
therefore required post-war cooperation. With hindsight, these
objectives were overly ambitious for an "international community" which
did not have the willingness to upgrade its military presence and which
was therefore limited to a peacekeeping mission. In these circumstances,
UNPROFOR's presence was not geared to reverse aggression and to
stabilise the area, but only to avert the worst humanitarian disasters.
Three years later, the "international community" finally applied
sufficient force to stop the violence and impose a settlement. However,
the objectives had in the meantime been scaled down dramatically, as the
Republika Sprska retained control of 49% of the territory and enjoyed
territorial continuity, which is a fundamental prerequisite for
partition.

The point is that the chosen objectives and the available resources must
be compatible in order for the international intervention to be credible
and effective. The gap between UNPROFOR's limited capabilities and the
ambitious objectives of the "international community" was further
exacerbated by the institutional framework which has been selected for
the negotiations. The fact that the first negotiators, Cyrus Vance and
(after Lord Carrington) Lord Owen, represented international
organizations rather than sovereign states fuelled the divorce between
diplomacy and the use of military force as the mediators had a mandate
only regarding the first Furthermore, the fact that prime diplomatic
responsibility was endowed to the international organization without the
control of military options stimulated a process of adverse substitution
which was responsible for the underproduction of security in the
Balkans. In the presence of the EU-UN initiatives, many national
governments felt no direct incentive to take the lead in the diplomatic
and military efforts. It is no coincidence that the governments which
most criticized the international mediators also contributed 

[CTRL] [2] The Bosnian War and the New World Order

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.weu.int/institute/occasion/1andreat.htm
http://www.weu.int/institute/occasion/1andreat.htm">The Bosnian War
and the New World Order

--[2]--


Phase II: Incremental Adaptation

The second phase was one of incremental adaptation and of increasing
attempts to narrow the gap between ends and means. However, these
attempts proved insufficient to radically alter the character of the
war. On the one hand, enforcement became more stringent. In April, NATO
was involved for the first time in the crisis in order to undertake
operation Deny Flight to enforce the NFZ. The WEU was instead entrusted
with enforcing the embargo against the FRY in the Adriatic and on the
Danube. Meanwhile, the objectives became more realistic as the principle
that some satisfaction should be given to all the three factions in
their quest for autonomy was acknowledged. In September 1993, a package
was presented to the parties on H.M.S. Invincible envisaging a union of
three distinct republics endowed with contiguous territory. The Bosnian
Serb share was 53% while the Muslims were to receive 30% of territory
and access to the Sava river and to the Adriatic Sea. The plan was
rejected by Sarajevo because it did not concede enough to the Muslim
entity and because the "union" was equivalent to a disguised break up of
the country. A further proposal was therefore introduced as the EU
Action Plan at the end of the year which increased the Muslim share to
33%. A positive development of the plan was that it was negotiated, for
the first time, directly by European foreign ministers who had the full
backing of their countries behind them rather than by the ICFY. Despite
considerable difficulties, the plan came very close to success as on the
night of December 22nd, the parties failed to reach agreement over
Bosnian Serb refusal to concede a mere 1% of territory.

On the other hand, UNPROFOR's mandate became again overstretched with
the establishment, in June 1993, of six safe areas for Muslim civilians
-Sarajevo, Bihac, Tuzla, Srebenica, Gorazde and Zepa- which had to be
defended by the blue helmets with insufficient reinforcements. For
example, at one time Gorazde was "defended" by merely four peacekeepers.
In August, NATO and the UN clashed when Mount Igman overlooking Sarajevo
was occupied by Serb forces which threatened the survival of the
capital. Much televised incidents as a shell on a crowd watching a
football match and the bombing of a water queue in August had raised
general expectations of an air strikes against the Serbs. However, the
UN maintained that NATO could not launch punitive air strikes but that
its June decision to allow air operations in Bosnia was limited to close
support of UNPROFOR troops. In September, an unsatisfactory agreement
between the two organizations was concluded establishing a cumbersome
dual-key arrangement inhibiting prompt and effective responses. The
situation degenerated when the referendum coalition broke down and open
conflict erupted between Bosnian Croats, who had proclaimed their own
independent entity of Herceg-Bosna the previous October, and the Bosnian
government. Some of the most bitter fighting occurred in Southern and
Central Bosnia between the armies of these two communities (the Bosnian
Croat HVO and the Bosnian Government's BiH), symbolized by the
destruction of the historic bridge in Mostar.

At 12,37 PM on February 5th, 1994, a mortar shell hit the market in
central Sarajevo killing 69 Muslims and profoundly shaking the
confidence of the "international community" as TV reporting of the event
symbolized its impotence in front of the two-years-old war. Although the
responsibility for the bomb is still unclear, the event can
retrospectively be considered as an important turning point because it
mobilized international reaction.(29)

Both of the diplomatic processes which had been in the making in the
preceding few months -toward greater involvement of national governments
and toward greater unity in their stance- were catalyzed in April with
the creation of the five-nations ad hoc Contact Group. The two main
external powers -the US and Russia- were finally and irrevocably locked
into the negotiating process. On the military side, international action
through NATO became more assertive. In the immediate aftermath of the
bombing, an ultimatum was issued by Boutros-Boutros Ghali demanding that
all heavy-weapons be eliminated or withdrawn from an exclusion zone of
20 kilometres around Sarajevo within 10 days. Western retaliation was
only narrowly avoided by a Russian coup, when Churkin managed to
convince the Bosnian Serbs to yield in exchange for the dispatch of
Russian peacekeepers to Pale. On February 28th, NATO could still
demonstrate its novel resolve when its planes downed four Bosnian Serb
aircraft violating the NFZ. In April, an exclusion zone was imposed
around Gorazde, which was also under Serb threat. In August, NATO air
attacks were launched for the fir

Re: [CTRL] THOUSANDS OF NATO COFFINS ARRIVE IN BRITISH CYPRUS:

[Brian Redman]

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On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Hilary A. Thomas wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> THOUSANDS OF NATO COFFINS ARRIVE IN BRITISH CYPRUS: EXPECT HEAVY LOSSES
> FROM GROUND ATTACK
> stratfor.com
> April 18, 1999 Stratfor News
>
> 1813 GMT, 990418 Ekho Moskvy radio in Moscow cited RIA-Novosti news agency
> reports that NATO has delivered thousands of coffins to a British military
> base in Cyprus today. The reports suggest NATO is preparing for a ground
> attack and expects heavy losses.
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a371a56840da8.htm
>
> Hmmhas anyone else heard stuff about this?

On PBS's "McLaughlin Group" yesterday, McLaughlin mentioned
a rush order by U.S. for 38,000 coffins.

Brian Redman
Editor, CNNS

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Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

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AOL User

>He was at Pasewalk, Germany Military Reserve Hospital in Oct and Nov l9l8
>diagnosed as probable hysteria.  He at that time heard voices saying
>providence had selected him to rid Germany of Jews.  This corroborated a
>prophecy he'd received as young man in Linz.
>
>Sorry I read this years ago, I looked and can't find the part where he
>purposely invited Satan into his soul, I know it is there.

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Aleister Crowley? A similar story is
told about him. In a very unreliable source-- The Great Beast by John
Symonds. No Wagner involved. however.

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Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

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No, quoting exactly from the Carr book.

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[CTRL] Mossad and JFK Hit

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Subject: Mossad and JFK Hit
From: Michael Collins Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, Apr 8, 1999 6:51 PM
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My book, FINAL JUDGMENT, now in its fourth edition, has sold over 25,000

copies. It contains 1069 footnotes, relying on "mainstream" sources. It
does not present a "right wing" thesis. It contends not that "the Jews
killed JFK" or that "the Mossad killed JFK" and it has nothing to do
with the Holocaust or "Holocaust denial." The book simply contends that
the Mossad played a front line role alongside the CIA in the JFK
assassination. Why would the Mossad be involved, of all things, you ask?

For the simple reason that JFK was trying to stop Israel from building
the nuclear bomb, along with, in general, refusing to accede to Israel's

foreign policy demands on the United States. Citations:
# Israel and the Bomb by Avner Cohen
# Dangerous Liaison by Andrew and Leslie Cockburn
# The Samson Option by Seymour Hersh
# Taking Sides by Steven Green
None of these are 'right wing" sources. And until you have studied JFK's

Middle East policy (which has been ignored by virtually all of the JFK
assassination researchers, you cannot be a "naysayer" as far as my
theory is concerned.

Where is the mossad connection? Clay Shaw. Shaw served on the board of
Permindex. The chairman of Permindex was Louis Bloomfield of Montreal,
longtime attorney for the Bronfman family (as in Edgar Bronfman, now
headof the World Jewish Congress). Bloomfield was also a leader in the
pro-Israel lobby of Canada. Shaw's close friends in New Orleans were the

Stern family who were also major backers of Israel and, for those of you

who want to find 'right wing" connections, note that the Sterns also
served on the board of the Information Council of the Americas. So they
weren't as "liberal" as some would suggest. As far as Permindex is
concerned, another israeli link is Rabbi Tibor Rosenbaum of the Banque
De Credit Internationale. Rosenbaum was a longtime high-level Mossad
figure and he was a key playerin the Permindex web. Rosenbaum's bank was

also the chief European money laundry for the Meyer Lansky Syndicate.

And don't forget that in the CIA, the key CIA player in the
assassination and the cover-up was undoubtedly James Jesus Angleton.
Angleton, in case you didn't know it, was the head of the Mossad desk at

the CIA and a very devoted supporter of Israel. So there's another
Mossad connection for you.

And as far as Guy Banister is concerned, his two close 'right wing"
friends were Kent and Phoebe Courtney who were both very pro-Israel.
Plus,Banister also did contract work for the New Orleans office of the
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith (headed in New Orleans by
A. I. Botnick. Botnick was an extreme anti-communist who believed that
the civil rights movement was a communist movement and he hired out
Banister's services to infiltrate left-wing groups. Wonder if maybe LHO
was doing that kind of work?

There is also the matter of the so-called "French connection" and Oliver

Stone does not get into this, but many JFK researchers do. I contend
that the
French connection is also the Israeli connection. And bear in mind that
the Banister-Shaw group in New Orleans were connected to the French OAS
plots against Degaulle if we are to believe all of the supporters of
Oliver Stone's movie and his basic thesis. (And Stone himself, in JFK:
THE BOOK
OF THE FILM, does mention the French OAS connections of the gang in New
Orleans.)

In THE KENNEDY CONSPIRACY, Paris Flammonde makes the connection between
permindex and the OAS. Now here are some further details.

There is no question, based on the writings of "mainstream" historians,
that the French OAS was tied inextricably with the Mossad. Citations:

# Israeli historian Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi, writing in THE ISRAELI
CONNECTION: WHO ISRAEL ARMS AND WHY, says Generals Raoul Salan and
Maurice Challe (who were OAS leaders) were, along with others, "known as

israel's friends in France." He also points out that after Challe was
released from prison for his parts in the anti-DeGaulle plots, that
Challen was hired to serve as President of Zim, Israel's largest
shipping concern. (As I point out in my book, FINAL JUDGMENT, Zim was
owned by Shaul Eisenberg, a longtime Mossad asset who was also a
business partner with Geneva-based banker (and Lansky money launderer)
Tibor Rosenbaum, the banker for Permindex and a Mossad arms financer in
his own right, in the Swiss-Israel trade bank.

# Beit-Hallahmi also points out that Jacques Soustelle was another of
"Israel's friends in France." Soustelle was a major critic of Degaulle's

Algerian policy and as French Atomic Energy Minister, according to
Israeli historian Avner Cohen in ISRAEL AND THE BOMB points out, was a
major player in the French effort to help Israel build the nuclear bomb
(before both Degaulle rever

[CTRL] Fwd: IRS Building Burned Twice in Two Years

[Bob Stokes]

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 Maybe some people have a different way of being a tax protester, a
little more than just a teaparty.

http://www.gazette.com/archive/99-04-11/top2.html

By Eric Gorski/The Gazette

Story editor Todd Hegert; headline by Jeanne Davant

A nondescript red-brick building where hundreds of Colorado Springs residents
turn for tax help was cordoned off as a crime scene Saturday.

Investigators ruled Saturday that a Friday night fire at the Colorado Springs
office of the Internal Revenue Service was arson. It was the second time in
less than two years that someone torched the local IRS office.

While picking through the gutted first-floor office of the building Saturday,
federal agents and city fire investigators thought they smelled an
accelerant, said Rich Marianos, resident agent in charge of the federal
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in Colorado Springs. A Labrador
retriever trained to sniff out fire scenes confirmed their suspicions.

Samples of wood, carpet, book material and other debris were hauled out in
empty paint cans and will be sent to a federal lab in Rockville, Md., to
determine what exactly was used to start the fire, Marianos said.

"This is a serious thing in the community we have to address, and we have to
address aggressively," he said. "This is the second time this has happened to
these people. Once is enough. Twice is much, much more than we want to deal
with, and we want to end this."

On Saturday, May 3, 1997, someone set fire to the IRS office on North Academy
Boulevard, causing $1 million in damage to the building and forcing the
relocation of the agency and other businesses. The case has never been solved.

At 11:14 p.m. Friday, Springs firefighters were called to a two-alarm
structure fire at 1259 Lake Plaza Drive, near Venetucci Boulevard and Lake
Avenue. Only later did they learn the IRS office had burned again.

The fire was confined to one large room where the reception desk, revenue
agents and office library are located, according to firefighters and Kathy
Strom, IRS district director representative.

When firefighters arrived, flames were pouring from a shattered ground-floor
window, said Damon Davis, supervisor of the Colorado Springs Fire Department
investigations team. The fire was contained at about midnight and completely
under control within three hours.

Marianos said investigators were trying to pinpoint where glass shards fell
in an effort to determine whether someone broke the window to enter the
building or whether the fire blew out the window. Either is possible, he said.

No one claimed responsibility for starting the fire, Marianos said. He said
that to his knowledge, no threats were made against the office beforehand.

IRS officials declined to describe security measures at the office, citing
safety concerns.

The 44,000-square-foot building, built in 1982 as headquarters for Mitre
Corp., a defense contractor, is owned by homebuilder Henry Norman, and his
wife, Julie, records show. The building is for sale for $3.5 million.

The IRS occupies about 10,000 square feet on the south end of the first
floor, said Ted Link, a leasing agent with Fidelity Real Estate Inc., which
is handling the property. Colorado Springs Health Partners leases about
13,000 square feet on the first and second floors of the north side. The
space above the IRS is vacant.

Even before arson was confirmed, Marianos said Friday's fire bore
similarities to the 1997 blaze, which caused more damage. Both targeted the
same agency, and the acts are separated by 25 months, to the day.

In the 1997 fire, the letters "A.A.R." were spray-painted on the IRS walls.
No such graffiti were found after Friday's fire, Marianos said. Investigators
never learned what the letters meant, he said.

Speculation about who started the 1997 fire centered on anti-government
activists, though the ATF never said it believed such people were to blame.

That year, the Associated Press reported that anti-government activists Linda
June Tebedo Cleaver, daughter of state Sen. MaryAnne Tebedo, R-Colorado
Springs, and Cleaver's husband, Jim Cleaver, were subpoenaed to appear before
a grand jury investigating the fire. Neither was charged with anything.

Friday's fire came at the worst possible time for the IRS, which is preparing
for Thursday's deadline for filing federal income taxes. The office, in fact,
was to be open Saturday for people seeking last-minute help.

Kate Gregg, an IRS spokeswoman in Denver, said agency officials had not been
inside the building Saturday, so it was impossible to say whether it would
reopen there. She said the agency hopes to announce a temporary move Monday.

Gregg said that compared with other IRS field offices, the Colorado Springs
branch is a busy one, handling as many as 300 customers each day. The 45- to
50-employee office investigates tax fraud, conducts audits, pursues tax
collections and answers tax questions.

There is no visible IRS sign on the building, b

[CTRL] History Repeating

[Colleen Jones]

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"Elurope is divided into two camps which come to war.In 1914 the
Austrian archduke was murdered at Sarajevo, and Austria determined to
crush Serbia, whom she suspeted of rebelling against her.  This brought
in the little Slavic state's elder brother, Russia.Russia was hand
in glove with France, andEngland was committed to alliance with both of
them in case of trouble.  Italy already had an alliance with Austria and
Germany, but this held good only if they suffered the attck and were not
the ones to begin the fighting

Austria persisted in her intention of humbling Servia, and Russia
determined to protect Serbia.  Negotiations failed to halt the
mobilization of the two countries forces, and Germanand England followed
suit

England strove to the last to stave off war, but when Germany invaded
Belgium in her attack upon France, she was twice committed for Belgiums
neutrality had been guaranteed by the pwers.

Then followed the most fearful war in history, and at the end of four
years of unceasing fighting by lnd and sea, the great force of which the
Kaiser was the figurehead was beaten backunder the strain of defeat
the German, Austrian, Russian, and Turkish empires all
collapsed.Republics were formed in Germany, Austria, and Russia.

The Kaiser who had revealed himself during the war as little more than a
toy king playing at soldiers, ran away from his people, hid himself in
Holland, and evaded the consequences of his policy.
The territories  she had taekn in past years from Frnce, Poland, Denmark
and Belgium were handed back to their former owners.  History holds no
record of a more complete defeat.

/The PeaceTreaty of Versailles was drawn up in the Hall of Mirrors,
which had been the birthplace of the fallen German Empire...

Gemany was condemned to pay reparations for the damages she had done,
and she signed solemnly her willingness to comply with the conditions
laid downand of course, laater, it seemed impoossible that the
war bill could ever be paid


The end result, the proud nation that lay humbled in he dustand the
end result

Finally a settlement whereby the collection of reparations was taken out
of the hands of politicians and GIVEN TO THE LEADERS OF INDUSTRY".   The
End.

This information taken from a 1926 Book of All Countries, owned by my
mother

It is as though the names may be changed somewhatbut look at the end
resultout of the hands of the politicians the mighty leaders of
industry step in and take ovr..is this what NATO is all about.

Clinton is a war criminal; this is his war, not ours.   It is an illegal
war.   His wife now wants to play heroine and go to Albania; good, let
us burn the bridge behind her...however, do you thing the government
will permit this "brave" lady who wrote It Takes A Village to gono,
I do not think so.she is too busy attempting to run for the Senate
in New York City.

Will nobody rid us of these meddlesome women,  Reno, Clinton,
Albright.

After this great war, German shipping was turned over to the allies, the
German army was disbanded and disarmed; her fortresses were dismantled,
and her colonies were dividedit is said history had recorded no
record of a more complete defeat.

Why does Madame Albright, the butcher of the Balkans, want to destroy
the Balkans.   Was this woman naturalized before she took post to the
office of Secretary of Statewas the shooting of the innocents in the
Library of the Mormon Church, who were tracing family trees, is this all
somehow connectedwhy does Albright attempt to hide her Jewish
background of which she should be proud.  Is not what she is causing to
be done in the Balkans the same thing Hitler did.Yugoslavia is
burning, while that obnoxious woman sits on her big fat can and fans the
flames?

You shall know the truth, and the truth will make you sick..all this
because of Serbia.is NATO now the SS of America.  If they are going
to send our boys to a ground war, let us send in Clinton to head the
troops along with Cohen and Albright.just like George Patton, a
hero, did...he led his troops to victory - he did not sit behind and
play war games with peoples lives.

colleen

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[CTRL] Kosovo Refugees Throw Away U.S.-Donated Rations and Burn Them For Warmth

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
http://www.parascope.com/index.htm
http://www.parascope.com/index.htm">ParaScope: Something Strange is
Happening!

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Kosovo Refugees Throw Away U.S.-Donated Rations and Burn Them For Warmth
Albanians complain that "humanitarian rations" are inedible
Desperately groping for a credible pretext to continue the wholesale
NATO assault on Yugoslavia, Clinton administration officials (and,
presumably, scores of psywar operatives) have hammered repeatedly on the
plight of Albanian refugees. Each new round of bombing has been
accompanied by a new round of propaganda intended to convince viewers
that NATO's unprecedented military campaign, illegal under international
law, is being carried out as a ploy to somehow save these refugees.
It is disturbing enough when government officials use portrayals of
human misery to legitimize military objectives, especially considering
that the Albanians were expelled from Yugoslavia after the NATO
bombardments began. But a recent report from Reuters seems to indicate
an even darker tone of "Ugly American" cynicism in the first major
battle of the New World Order.
Kosovo refugees have begun tossing U.S.-donated civilian MRE
[meal-ready-to-eat] rations into "fetid trenches and streams filled with
garbage and excrement" according to Reuters, and "several families were
seen huddling around campfires using boxes of rations to help fuel the
flames." As newspapers nationwide run propagandistic images of Albanians
desperately retrieving rations from distribution sites, piles of
unopened MRE packages litter the grounds of makeshift refugee camps.
Refugees complain that the rations -- labelled "A Food Gift From the
People of the United States of America" -- are inedible and have made
many people sick. "We don't eat it because the children get a fever and
throw up and are going to be poisoned," said Selvie Gashi.
Source: Matt Spetalnick, "Kosovo Refugees Spurn U.S. Rations as
Inedible," Reuters, April 11, 1999.
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[CTRL] New German/English Conspiracy Magazine . . .?

[Kris Millegan]

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Visit this page please!
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Em Hotep, Peace Be,
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All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: NATO would have favored Confederacy

[Colleen Jones]

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You know, my mother was right.Lincoln should have been shot.   And
Sherman tried as a War Criminal.is tht what we are producing at West
Point these daysonly today, they sit in "bunkers" and let our kids
get shot at.

With your one vote we can vote all these people out..I still want a
million woman march on WashingtonClinton's ego could not take that,
but anyone can buy a floosie can they not.

Colleen

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[CTRL] Please Use PEACE TARGET Logos

[David Crockett Williams]

Attached is a .jpg file graphic ("Target Earth@Peace with Global Peace Now")
of one of three "The Target is Peace, only Peace is Victory" logo designs
received so far to empower a global peace-environment-justice movement
inspired by the tragedy unfolding now in the Balkans and the civilian use of
the target symbol on television in Belgrade.  If you or someone you know
would like to offer an additional design, please send .jpg sized.

If one or more of these, or others they may inspire, catch on in widespread
usage shown in the media, it will help solidify the desire for "Global Peace
Now!" as a universal human resolve, which is the goal of the Global Peace
Walk project.  These logos may be freely used without attribution in
buttons, t-shirts, etc., to help promote this resolve and the recognition
that Peace itself is the Target and only Peace is Victory!

Two other designs ("Peace is the Target" and "Color Global Peace Target")
are posted at http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/nuke-target.html along with
one for nuclear abolition as the target.  These and future designs received
will also be archived for copying from messages posted to
http://www.egroups.com/group/global-emergency-alert-response/?start=4

For more information on the Global Peace Walk 1999-2000 or on the Global
Emergency Alert campaign and resouces to help save life on Earth from
ecological catastrophe by ending war and reapplying its resources to peace,
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[CTRL] Balkan Notes: 04-19-99

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

>From NewsMax.CoM

The West Begins to Crack: U.S. Policy May Be Diplomatic Suicide
J. R. Nyquist
April 19, 1999

With 80,000 Russians volunteering to fight NATO and 30,000 U.S. reservists
being called to active duty, Bill Clinton's leadership continues to propel
Europe toward war. But Europe may not follow Clinton's lead to the bitter
end.

European leaders are beginning to realize the depth of Russia's anger and
the potential consequences.

Consider the following formula: If you want bad relations, insult a
government. But if you want war, insult a nation. By assuming that Russia
cares more about IMF money than its own national dignity, the Clinton
Administration has offered a powerful insult to the Russian people. As
Clinton takes blatant advantage of Russia's economic distress to wage war on
Russia's ally, dislike for America has gone from 28 percent in Russia to 72
percent. Reflecting this, politicians from the mayor of Moscow on up to the
President of the Russian Federation have openly warned of a third world war.

Observing Russia's anger, taking note of Russian warnings, many in Western
Europe are beginning to wonder. Can they continue to follow a NATO leader
who openly advocates the violation of NATO's own charter, who flouts
international law, who treats a nuclear superpower with galling contempt,
and who casually breaks oft-repeated promises about the "peaceableness" of
NATO's eastward expansion?

The Russians have good reason to be furious. Clinton's words have not
matched his deeds. Two thirds of the Russian people expect NATO will soon
attack Russia. Trust and good will between the world's nuclear superpowers
has been effectively destroyed. Consequently, Russia is making dangerous
moves of its own. More than 30 vessels of Russia's Black Sea Fleet have been
mobilized for war exercises which are slated to continue until 28 April,
while units of the Ukrainian navy have also put to sea. In fact, Russian
naval units are presently engaged in readiness exercises from Vladivostok to
Murmansk.

On the Western side of the equation, after a disastrous week of bombing,
France has begun to distance itself from Washington, suggesting it is too
risky to confront Russia with total war. At the same time Germany begins to
play the role of middleman between Washington and Moscow.

Are Europe's continental powers beginning to mark out a more equivocal
position, hoping to avoid the destruction that a widened war might bring? Is
the United States rushing headlong into diplomatic suicide and the breakup
of NATO?

As the situation in the Balkans continues to deteriorate, France and Germany
are bound to be the first countries to feel the heat. The French remember
that it was Russia that defeated Napoleon, and the Germans know it was
Russia that defeated Hitler. If Europe's greatest war leaders could not
stand against the ever "backward" Russians, who can safely take them on
today? Is Clinton respected as a military genius? Are we to rank him with
Roosevelt or Churchill, as he bites his lower lip -- feeling the world's
pain?

The Russians are a proud people, not nearly as comfortable or compromising
as those in the West. Russians have always been more ready to sacrifice
themselves in war. This truth was first observed by Frederick the Great over
two hundred years ago. Sadly, this truth has been lost on Bill Clinton.

As Russia's war preparations continue, the significance of French and German
diplomacy cannot be overstated. Should America press forward without French
or German support, she will lose her position in Europe altogether. If this
should happen, Moscow would win a great diplomatic victory. And the victory
would likely prove the first episode in a renewed Cold War -- a Cold War
that would begin with a Russian proxy controlling the strategic minerals of
South Africa and the Cape sea route to the Middle East oil. (South African
President Nelson Mandela has already declared which side his country will
choose -- the Russian side.)

But the consequences of Clinton's Balkan campaign have yet to be considered
by U.S. officials. In Washington they are acting as if Russia no longer
matters. But in reality it is Washington that might cease to matter. In
fact, if Yeltsin's threat of World War III bears out, Washington might even
cease to exist.

Whatever one may say about the French, at least they have the sense to be
afraid of what Russia's nuclear arsenal can do. But General Wesley Clark of
NATO is not afraid. He recently summed up the American position when he
said: "We're going to continue with the mission exactly as planned
regardless of political and diplomatic atmospherics."

In Clark's view Russian war preparations are mere "atmospherics." In this
instance, the disregard equals disrespect. Sadly, it is America that has
forgotten its good manners. It is America that does not realize the military
weakness into which it has fallen. It was only last October that the
Pentagon itself complained abou

Re: [CTRL] Jones Suspected Clinton Role in Mysterious Deaths

[1lls0081]

 -Caveat Lector-

You do not add that guy that was head of the Branch Davidian
before K.
The one that ran for president, ended up in an institution,
and recently turned up dead!
The one that K. had the shot out with for head of the
Branch Davidian.  Could the Branch Davidian been a
holding area - as well.

Lawyers that joined that gave up their wives and children to K.
Did K. have that much control???

Consider the particular habits that some of our recent
Presidents have had.  What evidence were they getting
rid of?

Or a way to put in legislation like in some areas of the
USSR that allows a person at 14 to have legal sexual
relations.
The Pied Piper

Peter L. Sroufe wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Paula Jones feared for her life while pressing her lawsuit against President
> Clinton and thinks he may have played a role in a number of mysterious
> deaths of potential witnesses against him.
>
>  With NewsMax.com Staff
> For the story behind the story...
> Sunday April 18, 4:10 PM
> "Waco" Explodes on HBO
> 
> Saturday April 17, 8:57 AM
>
> Jones Suspected Clinton Role in Mysterious Deaths
>
> Paula Jones feared for her life while pressing her lawsuit against President
> Clinton and thinks he may have played a role in a number of mysterious
> deaths of potential witnesses against him.
>
> Jones, appearing Friday night on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," was
> asked whether she suspected that Clinton was responsible for the deaths -- a
> list numbering, according to some, more than 50 people who were associated
> with one Clinton controversy or another. Some of the more prominent Clinton
> friends to die in the midst of scandal were Vince Foster, Ron Brown and
> James McDougal.
>
> Jones responded, "He may not be hands-on in doing it, but I think maybe he
> has some part in some of this stuff. Because there's just too many of them
> that have come up dead or missing that have had some kind of bond or have
> been in business or some kind of dealings with Clinton."
>
> Prior to the stunning comment, Sean Hannity questioned Jones about concerns
> for her own safety:
>
> HANNITY: Paula, you have stated in the past that you, and Linda Tripp has
> stated as well, have even feared for your life. You even went on to say that
> you want the whole world to know that you don't drive crazy, that you
> wouldn't run off the road, that you're not suicidal, that you love life, you
> love your children, and you'd never kill yourself. And you wanted to say
> that to a national audience. Why? What do you fear?
>
> JONES: Well, there's been a lot of people that have come up dead in
> Arkansas. And I've had a lot of people ask me, 'Aren't you scared for your
> life?' And actually, I have been. Even [Clinton attorney] Bob Bennett said a
> quote one time on CNN that his mother always used to tell him that you
> better be careful for what you ask for because you just might get it. And
> then he went on to talk about how his dog used to chase cars. And then his
> dog was dead and he has a new dog now. And I took that even as a threat.
> There were just so many things and I wanted people to know that I'm not like
> that and that if I come up strangely dead that I didn't kill myself.
>
> One of the "many things" Jones may have had in mind was the fate of Kathy
> Ferguson, the ex-wife of the co-defendant named in her lawsuit, Arkansas
> state Trooper Danny Ferguson. Kathy's friends have told reporters that she,
> too, claimed that Clinton had sexually harassed her and that she knew "Paula
> was telling the truth."
>
> On May 13, 1994, just five days after Jones filed suit, Ferguson was found
> shot to death in her Sherwood, Ark., apartment. Police ruled it a suicide.
>
> A month later, her police officer boyfriend, Bill Shelton, was also found
> dead, his body sprawled across Kathy's grave. The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
> reported that Shelton died from a single gunshot wound behind the ear.
> Police again ruled suicide.
>
>  http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml
>
> Bard
>
> Visit me at:
> The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government
> http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm
>

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Re: [CTRL] EXECUTIVE ORDERS

[Bob Stokes]

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In a message dated 4/19/99 12:45:07 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Let's explore their law making activities . . . government uses a
 publication called the Federal Register where all regulations are
 published daily. (Regulations? Where the hell did that come from?) This
 publication amounts to more than 70,000 pages a year. Here is where the
 executive orders are published.

 When they appear, they remain in limbo for 30 days and the Congress or
 any citizen can write and object to it. 70,000 pages a year would take a
 full-time staff member of each member of the Congress to watch and study
 these 'regulations'. Congress pays no attention to the Federal Register.

 At the end of the required thirty days, all these regulations become
 'law' and have the full effect of law!  >>

 What Public Law states that anything written in the Federal Register
becomes law after 30 days.

 What law gives the President authority to create laws?

 Why isn't Congress raising hell over this, Presidents are usurping their
authority to make laws.

 The Constitution GRANTS the Legislative branch authority to make laws,
not the Executive branch.

 Has the Congress been equipped with cowards, or is it more sinister ...
perhaps they are in league with the Executive and Judicial branches.

 The Constitution was written to provide a system of checks and balances
between the three branches of government so as not to effect a totalitarian
state, but that is what we have ... a Statist government.  These Executive
Orders have been used to subvert the original intent of government in this
country.

Can anyone find the law that gives the President the authority to draft laws.
 I cannot find it.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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[CTRL] Kosovo: UN Secretary Going to Moscow

[Das GOAT]

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 The Yugoslav foreign minister appeals to the UN to stop the [U.S.]
bombing.
 NATO's own charter makes its mandatory that the UN get involved
immediately.  Three weeks and counting and NATO, pressured by the U.S., is
ignoring the UN.


Annan To Discuss Kosovo in Moscow

By NICOLE WINFIELD
.c The Associated Press

UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- Secretary-General Kofi Annan said today he will go to
Moscow next week to discuss the Kosovo conflict.

Annan told the Security Council in closed consultations of his plans to add a
day onto a previously scheduled visit to Germany from April 26-28.

U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard confirmed that Annan had consulted with the
Russian government and decided to travel to Moscow on April 29. He would
presumably return to New York the following day.

Last Friday, Yugoslavia rejected the key element of Annan's Kosovo peace
initiative, saying an international military force in Yugoslavia was
unacceptable.

Annan had also urged Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to immediately end
the expulsions of ethnic Albanians from Kosovo and withdraw his forces from
the province. He pledged to urge NATO to end its airstrikes if Milosevic
complied.

The initiative had won wide support among the 15 European Union leaders who
gathered last week in Brussels, Belgium, in search of a solution to the
conflict.

After receiving a letter from Yugoslav Foreign Minister Zivadin Jovanovic,
Annan issued a statement through his spokesman saying that he wasn't
surprised by the Yugoslav response. He added: ``We are only at the beginning
stage of our search for a diplomatic solution.''

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[CTRL] Nomenclature

[Robert Tatman]

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Roughly thirty years ago, the late, great Philip K. Dick christened the
newsreaders in one of his stories "newsclowns"...complete with fright wigs and
clown makeup. Listening to television news today, I half expect to see these
"reporters" or "correspondents" donning clown costumes. They surely do not
stand up to the greats of the past, who had gotten their start in newspapers
and were first and foremost reporters in the best sense (except for William L.
Shirer, whose *Rise and Fall of the Third Reich* isn't worth the paper it's
printed on as history)... At this point I have about made up my mind to start
calling Rather, Brokaw, Jennings, etc., etc., "newsclowns." After all, Ted
Koppel already has his own fright wig...

Bob

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Re: [CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Leaflets, Bombs and Patriotic Songs

[Colleen Jones]

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"I want to talk to you"..I got a sex letter, and it was titled "I
Want To Talk To You"...it was a spam or scam, I guessbut I did
something terrible

I was so angry at getting this type of mail, I entered the HOT MAIL
under [EMAIL PROTECTED], changed the password, and reopened the
files.they system had been blockedthere were only 4 or 5 letters
- today, there are nearly 700 letters piling up with names, etc.

But  te letter states the leaflets say "We Want To Talk To
You".the same terminolgoy as in the dirty letter.

Anyone wanting to visit [EMAIL PROTECTED] may so do.  The password is
Ruby.look it over and consider it was MARCH 24 that  got the first
letterthe date the bombing started...at the time I thought it was
strange that I would get such stuffbut so did a lot of people.

If you get through okay, let me knowor I can send anyone the entire
file if they want it.

I am more than just curious about this.  Who is fooling what.Gwen is
long gone, having opened a new account, but I am getting her mail
nowso much for such people.

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[CTRL] Kosovo update and IRS agent

[Kevin]

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 Sherman Skonick was on Sightings last nite. The largest mine in Europe
that produces gold, silver, coal, lead, zinc, and cadmium is in Kosovo.
Lots more.
  http://www.broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/99archives.stm
  http://www.sightings.com/politics2/mines.htm
2 hours with ex-CID IRS Joe Banister with the statutes on the IRS being
voluntary.
   http://www.freedomabovefortune.com

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Re: [CTRL] EXECUTIVE ORDERS

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In a message dated 4/19/99 11:26:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> What Public Law states that anything written in the Federal Register
>becomes law after 30 days.

 A crux question, Bob.  Are there any court rulings on this?  Is there
anything in the US Code that validates the Federal Register?

Om
K

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[CTRL] New from the 4th Reich: "Defective" Kids Targeted

[Lyn McCloskey]

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Forwarded.  What relentless bastards.

* CCHC Commentary on new federal Birth Defects Registry law
* National Libertarian Party Press Release
* Federal law citations, sponsors, co-sponsors, and summary
* Birth Defect Registry Law in Minnesota - waiting in the wings
* 1997 Minnesota Birth Defects Registry Report - quotes of interest
* Copy of federal law at http://www.cchc-mn.org/bdact.html

CCHC COMMENTARY:

"Defective" children have been declared the latest government target.
Congress stooped very low in 1998 to enact a nationwide birth defects
registry initiative encouraging states to track children by defect and
race. This initiative was pushed by the March of Dimes Birth Defects
Foundation, which made establishment of state surveillance systems a
priority in 1994.

Nevada families are now locked in a fight to prevent the system from
becoming law in their state. As it stands now the bill A.B. 238 removes not only
general privacy protections but genetic privacy as well. It creates a state
registry, mandates medical reports onindividually- identifiable babies and
mothers, requires reporting of genetic testing, and grants registry access to
state officials, researchers, and the state's medical schools. The state's
General Assembly (House) passed it easily, but the Senate Health Resources
Committee is scheduled to hear it on Friday, April 23.

The only defense to such attacks on medical privacy is informed, specific, and
voluntary patient and parent consent requirements. On every registry. At every
access point. This is the feared monkey wrench which confounds the instigators
of these data collection systems. In the wake of Congressional abdication,
patient consent is a powerful tool for preserving Fourth Amendment rights, the
Hippocratic Oath, professional ethics, and common decency.

Twila Brase, R.N.
President


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Libertarians blast government's
chilling "deformed baby database"

WASHINGTON, DC -- A new federal law encouraging states to build a
nationwide, computerized database of infants with birth defects is a
chilling proposal that smacks of government eugenics research -- and should be
opposed by every decent American, the Libertarian Party said today.

"Only a politician with a morality defect would support a database of
babies with birth defects," said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director.

"This proposal is not only unconscionable, it also opens the door to
frightening abuse by the federal government of our most vulnerable citizens --
tiny infants who are already handicapped by genetic bad luck."

Under the so-called Birth Defects Prevention Act of 1998, the
federal government will provide states with $70 million to identify all infants
born with a birth defect, label them by race and gender, enter them into a
government database, and track and monitor them for five years.

Nevada has become the first state to try to qualify for the federal
money: The state legislature is currently debating AB 238, which would require
doctors and midwives to "immediately report" the name of any child born with
what is termed an "adverse birth outcome" to government health officials.

Supporters of the bill claim such a database will allow researchers to
better understand the causes of birth defects.

But the Libertarian Party opposes the plan, said Dasbach, because the
federal government should not be in the "baby registration" business --
especially when it involves parents and infants who are struggling with tragic,
possibly life-threatening medical conditions.

"On the face of it, this bill is appalling: The whole notion that
government bureaucrats will maintain a database of deformed children, or
children handicapped by genetic diseases, is repugnant," he said. "Even the
language of the bill -- talking about 'poor reproductive outcomes' -- sounds
chillingly close to the kind of 'master race' eugenics research done by
totalitarian governments in the past."

But what's worse, said Dasbach, is the possibility of what the
government may do with this information in the future.

"Once the government has its database of genetically handicapped
children, how will it use that information?" he asked. "Can we trust federal
bureaucrats not to use this data to try to control health care costs by
pressuring women to have abortions against their will?"

For example, he noted, the recent wave of lawsuits against the
tobacco industry established the precedent that government has an obligation to
t

[CTRL] NATO in Montenegro Next?

[Das GOAT]

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 "Queried about the possibility of a naval blockade, White House press
secretary Joe Lockhart said, ``We believe that this is an idea worth
pursuing."
 "Yugoslavia's only seaports are in Montenegro.
 "The NY Times reported today that when the United States raised the
issue of a naval blockade with NATO allies last week, France objected on
grounds that this would require endorsement by the United Nations."


U.S. Seeks To Block Oil to Serbs

By LAURA MYERS
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Clinton asked Congress today for $6 billion in
emergency spending to sustain the U.S. military engagement in Kosovo and
increase aid to ethnic Albanians fleeing the province.

``There are literally lives hanging in the balance,'' Clinton said. ``I hope
that the Congress, in the spirit of bipartisanship, will pass the package
right away.''

Clinton said the emergency spending would ``ensure that we have the resources
to sustain the air campaign to ensure that we achieve our goals while
maintaining our high level of general military readiness.''

Congressional leaders promised to give the measure prompt attention, but
Republicans suggested they would try to expand it to cover longer-range needs
of the Pentagon. ``This emergency funding measure cannot be shortsighted --
it cannot simply replace bullets for bullets and bombs for bombs spent in
Kosovo,'' said House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.

Meanwhile, the United States is seeking NATO support for cutting off seaborne
shipments of oil into Yugoslavia to limit President Slobodan Milosevic's
ability to fight ethnic Albanians. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright did
not rule out the possibility of a naval blockade of Yugoslav ports.

Albright, after noting that a relentless NATO bombing campaign has heavily
damaged Yugoslavia's oil refining capacity, said, ``We're taking all kinds of
steps to limit the ability of outside powers to ... deliver oil.

``The Croatians have turned off their oil pipeline. And we are talking with
our NATO allies about taking stricter action in order to limit the amount of
oil that goes in,'' she said Sunday on ABC's ``This Week.''

Would that include a blockade of ports? Albright was asked. ``Well, there is
a way to visit and search ships and we're looking at a variety of way to
tighten the screws on him (Milosevic) economically,'' she replied.

Clinton spoke with Russian President Boris Yeltsin today for 45 minutes.
Yeltsin has been critical of the NATO campaign, but a White House official
said the two emphasized the things they agreed upon, such as the need for
Serb forces to withdraw from Kosovo.

It was the first time that Clinton and Yeltsin had spoken since the start of
the airstrikes, and the conversation came after Yeltsin named a special envoy
for the crisis last week.

``They're looking for ways to be helpful. There's broad agreement that we
can't allow the relationship to be damaged by Kosovo,'' said the official,
who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Queried about the possibility of a naval blockade, White House press
secretary Joe Lockhart would say only that NATO was considering ``a variety
of things'' that could loosen Milosevic's grip on power.

``We believe that these are ideas that are worth pursuing, and that's what's
being discussed,'' he said.

Yugoslavia's only seaports are in Montenegro. Kosovo is a province of
Yugoslavia's other republic, Serbia.

There were weekend reports that oil was still being delivered through
Montenegrin ports and that the United States was reluctant to impose a
blockade.

The New York Times reported today that when the United States raised the
issue of a naval blockade with NATO allies last week, France objected on
grounds that would require endorsement by the United Nations Security
Council.

Albright said NATO will fight to the end to wear down Milosevic. Yugoslavia's
military is being weakened by NATO bombing, she said. ``Our allies are all
determined to prevail.''

She said Clinton still has no intention of sending ground troops into
Yugoslavia to follow the air attacks that begin March 24. A ground plan
shelved last fall could be updated quickly, she said, although military
experts have said it would take two to three months to prepare.

NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana agreed, saying, ``At this point, the
alliance has no plans to go into an invasion.'' However, he added, ``If the
moment comes when it is necessary, I'm sure the countries that belong to NATO
will be ready to do it.''

``We are going to maintain the air campaign to the end,'' he said on ``Fox
News Sunday.''

British Prime Minister Tony Blair and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder
affirmed allied unity. ``I think the important thing is to see the strategy
we have through,'' Blair said on CBS' ``Face the Nation.'' Schroeder told
CNN's ``Late Edition'' he sees ``no reason whatsoever'' to change current
policy. ``Airstrikes have to be continued, and they have to be sharpened as

[CTRL] Fwd: On D.U. Weapons, GWS, & KOSOVO

[Kris Millegan]

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:46:39 EDT
From:John Korber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dr. Rosalie Bertell on Depleted Uranium [DU] Weapons

A forwarded letter lifted from the transcultural psychology list.  I don't
know who Bertell is, but it bothers me still further that NATO's humanitarian
bombs are leaving a leaving a lasting impact in more ways than one.  So goes
the science of weaponry.

"Thy crown and scepter I will sieze
and regulate all my members in stern severity
and cast thee out into the indefinite
Where nothing lives, there to wander.
And if thou returnst weary
Weeping  at at the theshold to Eternity,
[I shall] never recieve thee more.
Thy self destroying beast formed Science shall be thy eternal lot"

-- William Blake

Forwarded message begins..jk

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:25:54 EDT
From: Rosalie Bertell, Military Toxics Project;
Subject: Kosovo: Use of depleted uranium Date: 31

March 31 1999 20:56PM

Dear Catherine and others,

I am an Epidemiologist, not a physicist (although I have taught college level
physics).  My specialty is in higher mathematics, with applications in the
radiobiology and the biomedical sciences.

You can quote me on the following comment on the crisis in Kosovo:

Depleted (DU) uranium is one of the largest categories of radioactive waste
produced for the nuclear weapons and nuclear reactor industry.  It is highly
toxic to humans, both chemically as a heavy metal and radiologically as an
alpha particle emitter which is very dangerous when taken internally.

Recently it has been substitute for lead in bullets and missiles by the U.S.
and UK, and was first used extensively by the West in the Gulf War.  It is
most likely a major contributor to the Gulf War Syndrome experienced both by
the veterans and the people of Iraq.

When used in war, the DU bursts into flame from the impact when it hits a
target.  It can pierce tanks and armoured cars, releasing inside of them a
deadly radioactive aerosol of uranium, unlike anything seen before.  It can
kill everyone in a tank.  This ceramic aerosol is much lighter than uranium
dust.  It can travel in air tens of kilometres from the point of release, or
be stirred up in dust and resuspended in air with wind or human movement.  It
is very small and can be breathed in by anyone: a baby, pregnant woman, the
elderly, the sick.  This radioactive ceramic can stay deep in the lungs for
years, irradiating the tissue with powerful alpha particles within about a 30
micron sphere, causing emphysema and/or fibrosis.  The ceramic can also be
swallowed and do damage to the gastro-intestinal tract.  In time, it
penetrates the lung tissue and enters into the blood stream.  It can be
stored in liver, kidney, bone or other tissues, again for years, irradiating
all of the delicate tissues located near its storage place.  It can effect
the blood, which is the basis of our immune system, and do damage to the
renal system as it is eventually excreted in the urine.  It can also initiate
cancer or promote cancers which have been initiated by other cancinogens.

In October 1998 the WHO undertook a two-year study of the increasing cancer
rates, especially leukemia in young children, which have been note in
southern Iraq where most of the war took place. The WHO report is not yet
out, but newer data from Iraq tells the story of even  more dramatic
increases in cancer rates, especially among the Iraqi veterans who
participated in the war.  In the West, thousands of veterans are recognized
as seriously ill with an unknown syndrome, and we have been able to document
DU in their urine as late as 7 or 8 years after the war.  There is no natural
source of DU to explain this phenomena!

It is imperitive that  we all denouce this radiation and toxic chemical
warfare!  It has now been used by the U.S. and Britain against Iraq and  in
Bosnia.  It is now being used in Kosovo (NATO announcement in Europe, 30
March 1999).  It has been condemned by the United Nations Human Rights
Tribunal (August 1996 Session of the UN Commission on Human Rights,
Sub-Commission on the Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of
Minorities).  The Human Rights Commission has requested that the Secretary
General prepare a written report on DU and certain other weapons of mass
destruction (Resolution 1997/36, which also established a UN Rapporteur to
take over the study of DU and other weapons of mass destruction on behalf of
the UN).  The damage being done will not only cause incredible and unending
suffering to today's victims, but the genetic damage it may cause can be
passed on to their offspring.  Such weapons and war itself need to be
condemned as utter barbarianism!

This is certainly not to be interpreted as condoning so called ethnic
cleasing or any of the nationalistic actions of the Yugoslave government.
However, as one of the Professors at the University of Toronto said, "I can
offer a different and more effective policy, but I 

[CTRL] Melissa manhunt creates precedent

[Lyn McCloskey]

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http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0%2C4586%2C2237838%2C00.html

Melissa manhunt creates precedent

Some legal experts raise red flag about computer code that paves way for
'virtual tracking.'

By Joel Deane, ZDNN
April 6, 1999 4:44 PM PT

The use of tracking technology to apprehend David L. Smith, the programmer
charged with authoring the Melissa virus, may have created a dangerous precedent
for electronic privacy, according to legal experts.
 Smith, 30, of Aberdeen, N.J., was arrested last Thursday, following a national
manhunt. He will be arraigned in Monmouth County Superior Court at 7 a.m. PDT
Thursday.

According to New Jersey Deputy Attorney General Christopher G. Bubb, Smith's
arrest was made as a direct result of information provided by America Online
Inc. (NYSE:AOL)

Have an opinion on this story? Add your comments to the bottom of this page.

The online services company led investigators to a phone number and then the
newsgroup where the macro virus was first posted. A controversial Microsoft
document identification technology -- the Global Unique Identifier, or GUID --
also appears to have played at least a minor role in the Melissa manhunt.

'There's no guarantee that companies won't do these kind of things for less
lofty reasons. ... The process becomes legitimized -- you have created a
precedent."
-- Gerry Jenkins, Internet lawyer

David Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said
the virtual tracking of Smith gave an indication of how electronic identifiers
such as Intel's ID chip could be used by law enforcement agencies -- and set a
"potentially frightening" precedent.

"Cases like this always occur in the context where people might agree with the
outcome," Sobel said -- such as catching the person believed responsible for a
damaging virus.

But, he asked, what if China used the same identifying technologies to track
dissidents? "There are lots of human rights implications," he said.

Gerry Jenkins -- a Chicago-based Internet lawyer with Goldberg, Kohn, Black,
Rosenbloom and Moritz -- said Smith's arrest could be a case of hard cases
making bad law.

Bad precedent

While it's very important to demonstrate to virus writers that if they write
damaging code they will be caught and punished, Jenkins said: "The problem is
that there's no guarantee that companies won't do these kind of things for less
lofty reasons. There's no guarantee that privacy policies won't change based on
what is in their best interests at the time.

"The process becomes legitimized -- you have created a precedent."

Jenkins said AOL, which was roundly criticized last year for inadvertently
releasing a user's identity to U.S. Navy investigators, had a policy to protect
customers' privacy. "I think they made the decision that David Smith wasn't a
person they wanted to protect," he said.

Listen to ZDNN's unedited interview with Jennifer Granick

Jennifer Granick, a San Francisco criminal defense lawyer who specializes in
high-tech issues, said the Smith case "definitely" broke new ground.

"It's not new that AOL cooperates with law enforcement in investigations, but
some of the elements of the investigation are new, such as the GUID," she said.

"A case like this points out to the average consumer how the software in their
lives can be compromising to their privacy," she added. "That's a serious area
of concern."

Legitimate use of technology?

At least one online privacy expert, however, wasn't alarmed by the Smith case.

David Sorkin, professor at Chicago's John Marshall Law School and associate
director of the Center for Information Technology and Privacy Law, said he
didn't see the Smith case as a case study in online privacy.

The use of tracking technology to apprehend a suspect was legitimate, Sorkin
said, so long as investigators had probable cause and obtained the appropriate
court orders.

Of greater concern to Sorkin is the fact that different jurisdictions even
within the United States have different standards regarding electronic privacy.

"The fact that they were able to, and did use, the identifier and Internet logs
used by America Online demonstrates the extent to which peoples' movements on
the Internet can be tracked -- and the potential dangers," Sorkin said.

Keeping tabs on ISPs

EPIC's Sobel said he would follow Smith's case "very closely" -- especially if
it goes to trial.

"I think the case, generally, is going to give us an interesting glimpse into
how individuals can be tracked on the Internet. The GUID is one of those, but so
is the record-keeping procedures of ISPs like AOL," Sobel said.

"It's one of the first case studies that we are going to have of the use of
various devices to combat anonymity."

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[CTRL] Dead Panamanians Campaign for President

[Robert Tatman]

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Dead Panamanians Campaign for President


Reuters
19-APR-99

PANAMA CITY (Reuters) - Panama's two most revered leaders are at it again,
going head-to-head in the country's upcoming presidential election, and most
Panamanians do not seem to be bothered by the fact that both are long dead.

The ghosts of former strongman Gen. Omar Torrijos and Arnulfo Arias, ousted
three times as president, are driving forces behind the May 2 election, among
the most important since Panama's U.S.-assisted independence in 1903.

Martin Torrijos, 36, the son of Omar, is fighting to maintain a fragile lead
in opinion polls over Mireya Moscoso, 52, the widow of Arias, whose presidency
was overthrown by the elder Torrijos in 1968.

The new president will be in charge at the end of this year when the United
States hands over control of the Panama Canal to Panama and pulls all its
troops out of the Central American country, ending a century-long military
presence here.

Both Moscoso and the younger Torrijos -- popularly known by their first names
as Mireya and Martin -- have largely ignored the significance of the U.S.
departure, focusing their campaigns on Panama's widespread unemployment and 36
percent poverty rate. But neither has outlined a concrete platform, so
analysts see voters looking for other reasons, such as history, to take sides.


"You're running two dead people. Omar Torrijos is running against Arnulfo
Arias. Neither (living) candidate has experience in elected office. They're
both running on the name but not on ability," Richard Millette, a political
analyst with the North South Center, told Reuters.

"This is a campaign of form without substance. ... The parties have no
ideology, no platforms and no candidate that has not avoided taking a stand on
every issue," Millette said, adding that this "reflects the weakness of
parties in Panama, which are simply groups of office seekers."

In a recent poll, Torrijos slipped from a 13-point lead to eight points ahead
of Moscoso, 43 percent to 35 percent. Banker Albert Vallarino, who divides the
Moscoso-led opposition and will most likely keep her from an easy win, was
third with 15 percent in the poll.

POLITICAL VACUUM

The late leaders Arias and Torrijos, both very charismatic, cultivated support
in their day with populist promises to the poor. But neither left a solid
tradition behind when he died -- Torrijos in a mysterious plane crash in 1981
and Arnulfo at home in 1988 while running for president for a sixth time.

"Torrijos and Arnulfo were giants, but they didn't prepare anyone else to
continue their traditions ... so the principles of Arnulfo and Torrijos are
diluted," Panamanian artist Edwin Cedeno said. "People trusted them because
they really believed in what they were doing, but today's candidates seem to
be in it only for the power," he added.

Omar Torrijos is fondly remembered for brokering the 1977 treaty with U.S.
President Jimmy Carter providing for the U.S. pullout from Panama and the
hand-over of the canal. But his opponents best recall his strict military
government, as well as that of his successor, Gen. Manuel Noriega, who ruled
Panama until he was toppled by a U.S. invasion in 1989.

Arias, on the other hand, was never given a chance to serve his term in his
three successful presidential bids. He was overthrown in 1941, in 1951 and
finally in 1968 in a Torrijos coup that led to 21 years of military rule in
Panama.

Arias, exiled under the Torrijos and Noriega regimes with his wife Moscoso,
was also defeated in two fraudulent elections and was running again in 1988
when he died at 87.

PERSONALITY POLITICS

Since the deaths of both leaders, Mireya's Arnulfista party (named after her
late husband) and Martin's Revolutionary Democrats (the PRD, which once served
as the political arm of Panama's military regimes) have jockeyed for power,
each having won an election since the U.S. invasion.

Their campaigns, with slogans ranging from Torrijos' "New Nation," to
Moscoso's "Mireya is Change," are loaded with forward-looking rhetoric, but
they also dredge up images from the country's political past.

"Omar lives, Martin follows," is the favored cry of his PRD supporters at
rallies where General Torrijos' Marlboro man-like visage is often displayed
behind his son, a former McDonald's fast food executive who shares his
father's good looks.

"I was honored with an extraordinary father with a great social sensitivity
... and I was able to accompany him, since I was a kid, in his leadership,
which developed opportunities for the most humble sectors of our country,"
Torrijos told a group of business owners at a recent conference.

"And I saw how he opened the door to the participation of a middle class that
had been excluded from the nation's development," Torrijos added.

Moscoso, who lost by a narrow margin to current President Ernesto Perez
Balladares in the 1994 presidential election, uses her dead husband's name in
her campaign.

"We have a

[CTRL] Clinton Gives Reno Authority to Take Custody of Illegal Aliens in Marianas

[Robert Tatman]

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Clinton Gives Reno Authority to Take Custody of Illegal Aliens in Marianas


AP
19-APR-99


HONOLULU (AP) -- President Clinton on Saturday gave Attorney General Janet
Reno authority to maintain custody of illegal aliens found in boats off the
Northern Mariana Islands, easing worries in Guam that they would seek asylum
there.


Several hundred illegal aliens from China have been apprehended in recent
months in waters off Guam, drawing a complaint that they would seek asylum in
U.S. territories.


But the president's directive would allow captured illegal aliens to be held
in the Northern Marianas, which is outside the U.S. immigration area and where
asylum would not be available, according to Leland Bettis, an aide to Guam
Gov. Carl Gutierrez.


The president's memo specifically mentioned a "stateless vessel" located west
of the Northern Marianas and identified by U.S. authorities on or about April
12. That vessel apparently has since moved to Tinian, a Northern Mariana
island near Saipan, Bettis said.


Officials on nearby Guam believe the vessel departed from China with nationals
who paid organized crime lords in an effort to gain American citizenship.
Several such vessels have grounded off Guam in recent months.


The president's action was prompted by a letter sent Tuesday by Gutierrez,
outlining "a crisis triggered by an escalating mass influx of aliens from the
People's Republic of China."


The governor asked for federal assistance in dealing with the problem. Since
January, 480 illegal Chinese immigrants have been apprehended in waters off
Guam, he said.


Last week, a vessel grounded on a reef off Guam and authorities arrested about
70 Chinese nationals on shore. On Friday, 105 Chinese aliens arrived on a
boat, Bettis said.


At present, more than 350 illegal aliens are housed in Guam's already
overcrowded prison, comprising nearly 50 percent of the prison population,
Gutierrez said.


Gutierrez said he won't release the illegal aliens into the community because
they are of unknown character and no information is known about their
background.


He said he was also worried that the aliens would be manipulated by organized
crime, and that tuberculosis and hepatitis B cases have been found among them.



Guam and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands are U.S. territories
located about 3,700 miles southwest of Honolulu.




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[CTRL] Senate committee approves flag salute bill

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By JENNIFER COLEMAN
Associated Press Writer

CARSON CITY (AP) -- A bill requiring schools to set aside time at the start
of each day for students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance was approved
Wednesday by the Senate Human Resources and Facilities Committee.

AB144 now goes to the full Senate for approval. Assemblywoman Bonnie
Parnell, D-Carson City, the bill's author, says AB144 is necessary because
in many schools the pledge isn't recited. She said she got hundreds of
messages on the bill from people who want the pledge recited in schools.

Parnell said the initial version of the bill was improperly written and read
as if she opposed the Pledge of Allegiance. She said the opposite is true.

While the bill doesn't provide any exemptions from the pledge requirement,
Parnell said U.S. Supreme Court decisions and existing laws permit Jehovah's
Witnesses and other pupils to refuse to recite the pledge for matters of
conscience.

A teacher for 21 years, Parnell said students can step out of the room or
merely stand if they object to the recitation.

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Re: [CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern

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 hoaxes that slip through.
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Perhaps this is why that genius who invented the internet, Algore, wants to
now regulate (strangle) it by tacking an extra fee onto second phone lines in
homes, under the assumption that the added line is for internet use, using
the FCC to do his dirty work.

FI, WN  (Sorry--that's not polite enough to write out in full.)

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[CTRL] [4] Crime, Big Business & Watergate

[Kris Millegan]

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an excerpt from:
The Breaking of a President 1974 - The Nixon Connection
Marvin Miller, Compiler
Therapy Productions, Inc.©1975
LCCCN 7481547
--[4]--
WHAT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS?

After many bitter experiences with government corruption, Americans have come
to believe that all politicians have their price. Knowing this, apologists
for Nixon have tried to minimize the Watergate scandals by pointing out the
crimes committed during Democratic administrations. Playing on the fear that
the country is falling apart and has an uncertain future, the Nixonites urge
that the inconsequential Watergate burglary be left to the courts so the good
President can go back to running the country.

However., the argument that the Democrats have been as bad as the
Republicans, or worse, doesn't take into account that politicians today deal
with a public containing power structures and interests quite different from
those of yesteryear. Times have changed, and it is one of the contentions of
this book that the relationship between politicians and criminals, in
particular, has recently changed so much that most Americans experience the
resultant change in government corruption, without understanding the
underlying changes.

The fact is that, until the formation of the national crime syndicate, the
general rule was that street hoodlums would be hired by the politicians for
the ultimate profit of the businessmen behind the politicians. Since the
hoodlum element at first came mostly from the foreign-born poor, it was
natural that the Democrats, with their big-city political "machines" based on
the votes of naturalized citizens, were more successful than the Republicans
in their exploitation of the street gangs. It is not that the Republicans
didn't try. There were times that the political opponents of the Democratic
Party also hired hoodlums in attempts to distort the vote in their favor. But
the Democrats had more natural contacts with street gangs and, therefore,
more electoral victories based on "muscle." Whatever corruption then took
place in the government after the politicians got elected had little to do
with the street gangs, who went back to their usual business of prostitution,
gambling and street crimes between elections.

It is, of course, still true that politicians sometimes hire local
criminals-to accomplish a particular "nasty". However, now that the national
crime syndicate is one of the biggest enterprises in the country, and has
more available cash for investment than anyone except the largest
corporations or largest banks, it is more characteristic of modern times that
the criminal element hires and manipulates the politicians. This, however, is
getting ahead of the story. First it is necessary to see how the street gangs
used by Tammany Hall, the most typical of all big city Democratic Party
political machines, eventually fused with the Mafia and formed a thread of
people and policies that leads directly to Nixon. An examination of Tammany
Hall will also show how some of the greatest American fortunes were
developed, another thread of importance in understanding Nixon and his
ability to get huge campaign contributions from the wealthy.

TAMMANY HALL: FROM INDIANS TO IRISH

The Italian Mafia has always been a major component of organized crime in the
United States. However, every wave of poor ethnic immigrants to this country
has created its share of criminals.

The first mass movement of poor immigrants to this country came from Ireland
following the Great Famine of 1846. Most of the Irish settled in the cities,
thousands of them becoming construction workers or entering domestic service
despite their peasant background. In 1840 the total population of the United
States was 17 million. By 1860, because of the poor immigrants from Northern
Europe, the population had almost doubled to 31.5 million. Half of the
immigrants from 1840 to 1860 were Irish, with Germans a close second. By 1855
Irish immigrants made up 34% of all the voters in New York City, and 300 of
the City's 1000 policeman were Irish.

The Society of St. Tammany, then also known as the Columbian Order, was
organized by William Mooney only three weeks after the U.S. Constitution went
into effect in 1788. Mooney was a paper-hanger, upholsterer and furniture
dealer who lived and worked in New York City during the Revolutionary War. In
the great Constitutional Parade held in New York on July 23, 1788 to
celebrate the ratification by the States of the constitution, William Mooney
represented

Upholstery, and he rode a float showing the preparation of the chair for the
first President of the United States. At this time New York City was the
capital of the new nation.

The Society of St. Tammany was formed as a counter-force to Alexander
Hamilton's aristocratic organization, The Society of the Cincinnati, which
had been formed by officers of the Continental Army before it disbanded. In
contrast, the Tammany Society was recruited from the cl

[CTRL] [3] Crime, Big Business & Watergate

[Kris Millegan]

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an excerpt from:
The Breaking of a President 1974 - The Nixon Connection
Marvin Miller, Compiler
Therapy Productions, Inc.©1975
LCCCN 7481547
--[3]--
THE NATIONAL CRIME SYNDICATE

Organized crime as we know it today began exactly forty years ago with a
meeting of criminals from all over the country in 1934. This meeting marked
an end to the constant gang warfare which had characterized the prohibition
period of the 1920's. Delegates from Cleveland, Minneapolis. Detroit, Boston,
Philadelphia, New York, Chicago, New Jersey and other cities gathered at New
York's WaldorfAstoria Hotel to hear Lucky Luciano, Joe Adonis, Johnny Torrio,
Moe Dalitz, Abner Zwillman and Meyer Lansky speak of actually implementing
the plans for a national crime syndicate first formulated at a national
gathering of criminals in Atlantic City during 1929.

In 1929 the delegates had taken a map of the United States and divided it up
into a number of territories. Luciano then proposed a twelve-member
commission made up of the heads of the regional Mafia families to settle all
jurisdictional disputes. Although the Italians were thus given a central
position in the new organization, the real importance of the conference was
that all the major ethnic mobs were represented, whether they were Italian,
Irish, Jewish, etc. There was no attempt to set up an Italian "boss of
bosses", which had previously led to renewed gang warfare and the
non-implementation of most of the 1929 decisions.

TWO MAJOR CRIME GROUPS

In reality, as Senator Kefauver's 1951 investigation into organized crime
showed, the 1934 decisions eventually resulted in the formation of two major
crime syndicates led by Jewish and Italian gangsters: "The
Accardo-Guzik-fischetti syndicate, whose headquarters are Chicago, and the
Costello-Adonis-Lansky syndicate based in New York."

The Kefauver committee stated that the Accardo-Guzik-Fischetti syndicate
apparently was operating in Chicago, Kansas City, Dallas, Miami, Minneapolis,
Des Moines, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles. The Costello-Adonis-Lansky operation
was found in New Jersey, New Orleans, Miami, Las Vegas, Tampa, Saratoga and
also on the West Coast. Florida, the West Coast, and Nevada were apparently
open territory with some kind of working arrangement between the two major
syndicates and the Cleveland syndicate of Dalitz, Tucker, Kleinman and
Rothkopf.

The 1934 crime convention also reaffirmed the principle established in 1929
that each regional czar was guaranteed protection for his life and loot as
long as he did not violate agreed upon policy. Also a racket boss was no
longer allowed to order murders on his own authority. Even within each area a
hearing would have to be held before a disciplinary death penalty was levied
on a member; on a national level the twelve-member commission would have to
decide the fate of any top racketeer

Another decision resulted in the formation of a national group of enforcers
upon which each regional crime lord could call when killings were permitted.
Each region had its own enforcers but a local leader could avoid suspicion
falling on himself by using imported killers.

A NATIONAL INVESTMENT FUND

Informers say that two financial funds were also established at Atlantic
City. One was a multi-million dollar corruption fund to be used nationally to
bribe law enforcement officials and elect influential politicians who would
do the mob's bidding. An "educational" fund was also established to provide
for the training of future crime executives. No one outside the ruling
echelon of crime really knows if these funds have actually been functioning
since 1934 but there is evidence to suggest that at least on an informal
basis, there is a sharing of money to accomplish overall national objectives.
And it would not be out of character for a man like Lansky to plan in advance
for the turnover of his multi-million dollar crime empire to heirs who would
have degrees in accounting and law and have no troublesome record of arrests
for petty crimes.

But perhaps even more important than the two funds established in 1929, is
the information that by 1934 another large financial fund was set up, an
investiment[sic] fund in which the crime leaders pooled some portion of their
money in a return for a definite percentage of the profits. According to two
investigators into the early history of organized crime, Lucky Luciano owned
7.5 percent of this investment fund, with other crime leaders having
differing percentages. The existence of this fund would clarify the ability
of the National Crime Syndicate to coordinate the multi-million dollar
investments required in gambling casinos and other larger operations
throughout the world from Las Vegas to the Bahamas. Also such an investment
fund would provide stability and an orderly succession of leadership on the
top levels of organized crime, with the younger elements "inheriting"
definite percentages of the fund.

Organized crime figures rarely leave

[CTRL] Resources on Kosovo from the National Technical Information Service

[Robert Tatman]

 -Caveat Lector-

Resources on Kosovo from the National Technical Information Service
http://www.ntis.gov/kosovo.htm


What underlies the current Kosovo crisis? From dinner tables to street corners
around the world, it's the question that seems to be puzzling everyone these
days. In response to the crisis, NTIS is now making available a collection of
recently published reports and studies offering unique and authoritative
insights on how and why Kosovo, as one study is titled, over the years has
become "the Balkan Time Bomb." Discover what leading worldwide government,
academic, political, and military experts and analysts have diagnosed as the
origins of this deadly conflict--and what measures need to be taken for
peaceful resolution.

***

Kosovo: The Balkan Time Bomb; Master's Thesis
S. P. Kelley; Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA
June, 1998; 122 pages
Describes the conflict between ethnic Albanians and Orthodox Christian Serbs
in the Serbian Region of Kosovo as the foundation for a Fourth Balkan War. The
ethnic Albanian majority in Kosovo comprises over ninety percent of the
population and seeks recognition as the independent republic of Kosovo.
According to this report, Serbia revoked Kosovo's autonomous status in 1989
and has instituted a campaign of repression that is currently unrivaled in
Europe. The lack of progress for the Albanians has resulted in the use of
terrorism to achieve  political aims.
Order number: ADA340982INQ, $33


KOSOVO: The Ethno-National Dilemma and Policy Options for Conflict
Resolution
C. G Rapp; Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA
December, 1998; 97 pages
Describes how nations throughout the world have become increasingly involved
in trying to negotiate a peaceful settlement in the Kosovo crisis. Yet,
despite its fear of large refugee flows and possible spillover of ethnic
violence into other Balkan countries, the international community has been
unable to present a common position on a solution. Thus, the belligerent
leaders have been allowed to manipulate the situation.

KOSOVO (CIA Map 802574)
May, 1998
Shows the Kosovo region of Serbia with details of cities, administrative
units, transportation routes, physiographic features, and terrain shading.
Color illustrations reproduced in black and white.
Order number: PB98-928308INQ, $9 plus handling fee
Call NTIS Telephone Sales: 1-800-553-NTIS (6847).


Military Terrain of Former Yugoslavia (CIA Map 747035)
August, 1998
Indicates plains, hills, and mountains of the countries of the former
Yugoslavia. Included is a cross-section profile extending from Croatia to
Serbia. Color illustrations reproduced in black and white.
Order number: PB98-928313INQ, $9 plus handling fee
Call NTIS Telephone Sales: 1-800-553-NTIS (6847).


Crimes Against Humanity (Video)
U.S. Information Agency, Washington, D.C.
1993; VHS video
Will increase the viewer's awareness of the war crimes in former Yugoslavia
and the war crimes tribunal that prosecute these crimes.

>From Nuremberg to the Hague: A Contrasting Study of War Crimes
J. A. Ellenbecker; Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA
March, 1998; 107 pages
Compares the two war crimes tribunals and defines the differences based on
purpose and procedure. The Hague Tribunal is the first such institution since
Nuremberg and was established for the former Yugoslavia.

The Former Yugoslavia: War Crimes Tribunal's Workload Exceeds Capacity: Report
to the Congress
General Accounting Office, Washington, D.C., National Security and
International Affairs Division
June, 1998; 76 pages
Assesses whether the U.N. Security Council-created International Criminal
Tribunal was able to carry out its mandate to investigate and bring to justice
individuals involved in crimes against humanity which followed the breakup of
Yugoslavia in 1991.

War Criminals - Testing the Limits of Military Force
F.. M. Lorenz; Industrial College of the Armed Forces, Washington, D,C,
1997; 8 pages
Describes the effort to bring peace to Bosnia and Herzegovina and explores how
the attempts to build institutions and promote reconciliation have faltered.
Attention is directed to the controversial aspect of the peace process
involving the NATO policy for arresting those indicted by the International
Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia.

Forsaken People. Case Studies of the Internally Displaced
R. Cohen and F. M. Deng; Brookings Institution, Washington, D.C.
April, 1998; 420 pages
Explores coerced displacement of people within the borders of their own
countries by armed conflicts, internal strife, and systematic violations of
human rights. Yugoslavia is one of ten countries examined.

Jane's Sentinel Security and Economic Assessments: The Balkans
Jane's Information Group, Alexandria, VA
1998; 1 volume in paper copy format, 1 CD in CD-ROM format
Presents a comprehensive and thorough examination of the stability, key
political players and their agendas, internal and external threats, and
international relations for Albania, 

[CTRL] [2] Crime, Big Business & Watergate

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
The Breaking of a President 1974 - The Nixon Connection
Marvin Miller, Compiler
Therapy Productions, Inc.©1975
LCCCN 7481547
--[2]--
THE MEYER LANSKY CONNECTION

Meyer Lansky has the reputation of being the Chairman of the Board of the
National Crime Syndicate. For more than twenty years, all the operations of
organized crime seem to directly involve the name of this mysterious figure
or his close associates. It is, therefore, very important for the central
theme of this book to determine if there has been any relationship between
Nixon and Lansky, if any such contact is part of a pattern, and if one or
both sides of such a relationship have benefited thereby.

It is not necessary, however, to prove that Nixon and Lansky have personally
met to demonstrate a relationship between Lansky's crime expire and Nixon.
Whatever the exact structure of the National Crime Syndicate, it is evidently
a multi-billion dollar enterprise based on a minimum of many tens of
thousands of transactions. It is, therefore, obvious that neither Lansky nor
any other single individual could be personally involved in all the activity
of organized crime. Lansky's situation, rather, is clearly analagous to that
of the president of a large corporation where there is a chain of command
reaching down to the smallest decisions and all the people in the chair are
directly influenced by the policies set by top management in a relatively
few, key crucial areas. And just as a Lansky has to delegate authority, so
does the President of the United States.

Furthermore, as shall be seen, the National Crime Syndicate is a secret,
illegal organization about which little is known other than the fact that it
exists. Government authorities have been able to determine only that there
have been a series of national crime conferences setting up this organization
and continuing its coordination. In major respects, the reports of the
informers who have given law enforcement officials this information verify
each other's observations. It is also proven that a subsequent pattern of
activities is related to the reported decisions.

But while government investigators know that a formal organized crime
structure exists, the secrecy surrounding it is such that a non-member really
doesn't even know its proper name. "National Crime Syndicate" is, perhaps,
just a convenient name invented by journalists and/or policemen. High members
of the organization deny its existence, although they are sometimes hard
pressed to explain their presence at remote locations along with crime
leaders from around the country. Low ranking members vaguely refer to a
"Combineesh" or "Combination" or "Cosa Nostra" (Our Thing).

Given this effective secrecy, the public is in the position of the blind men
feeling different ends of the same elephant. The blind man touching the trunk
reports a different animal than the one touching the leg but both can agree
that something alive and very big is standing there. Through such a process
of touching and speculating, law enforcement officials have been able to
assemble lists of names of those suspected of being policy makers in
organized crime, and their relative standing. Although such lists are often
outdated by the time they are published, Lansky always has figured
prominently. Now, of course, he is an elderly and ailing figure and it is
really not known to what extent his leading position has already been taken
over by his heirs-to-be, whom we can only speculate about since they are
possibly men without a criminal record and therefore invisible to the eyes of
law enforcement and the public. Later on some names of possible heirs to
Lansky's authority will be given.

NIXON AND LANSKY

However, throughout the majority of Nixon's years in the public eye, Lansky
has been one of the leading, if not the very top, figure in organized crime.
Whether or not Nixon and Lansky have ever met face to face is not that
important because enough is now known to state that their paths have crossed
not once but many times. The latter chapters in this book containing the word
"Connection" in their headings are devoted to specific cases where the worlds
of Lansky and the President have touched, from dealings in Florida real
estate to a situation where Nixon was guest of honor at the opening of a
gambling casino in which Lansky was involved. And there is also other
evidence that the relationship, far from being accidential, has a pattern of
being mutually beneficial, with Nixon getting campaign and personal support
from persons with organized crime contacts and, in turn the syndicate getting
an otherwise unexplainable series of favors from the White House.

These facts do not necessarily establish that Nixon has done anything illegal
for which he can be prosecuted. Furthermore, some of the persons mentioned or
whose photographs are shown in this book may not be criminals themselves;
they may possibly have questionable associates or ma

[CTRL] Bite Taken Out of Hot-Dog Artist

[Robert Tatman]

 -Caveat Lector-

APRIL 19, 13:20 EDT

Bite Taken Out of Hot-Dog Artist




SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — If you smear yourself with pureed hot dogs and invite a bunch of 
pooches over for a sniff, you have to expect some problems.

That's a lesson performance artist Zhang Huan learned the hard way when a dog taking 
part in one of his pieces took a bite out of his butt.

Zhang doffed his clothes and lay face-down on a cypress branch. An assistant spread 
hot dog puree all over him and sprinkled him with flour. Then eight dogs were brought 
in, one by one.

The moment of truth arrived when marketing consultant Lee McCoy, who was dog-sitting 
for Dan Stern, brought Stern's Akita, Hercules, in for a taste.

``I'm pretty embarrassed,'' said McCoy. ``I was afraid Hercules might pee on the tree, 
but he bit him in the (behind) instead. Wait until Dan finds out I didn't take his dog 
to the beach.''

Zhang's performance Saturday, part of an exhibition at the Asian Art Museum called 
``Inside Out: New Chinese Art,'' was entitled ``Dream of the Dragon.''

Zhang, who lost a drop of blood but only flinched after Hercules mistook his keister 
for kibble, said his aim was to ``explore the physical and psychological effects of 
human violence in modern society.''


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[CTRL] The Virginia Way - Capitol of Colony flies Union Jack on spire above cupola - NOW

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

An excerpt from:
The Virginia Way
Guy Friddell -Text
Wolfgang Roth -Photographs
©1973 by BURDA GmbH
Offenburg
Printed in West Germany
-
Some of the tidbits amongst the chaff;

[Williamsburg]
---When dignitaries arrive from abroad, [Dept. of] State whisks them by
helicopter to the Colonial Capital for a day or two of restoration before
entering twentieth century Washington.--

Two men began the transformation. After a Phi Beta Kappa banquet at William
and Mary, the Rev. W.A.R. Goodwin of Bruton Parish Church escorted John D.
Rockefeller Jr. through the then dilapidated streets and suggested that the
philanthropist resurrect an entire town. How that dignified pair must have
enjoyed conspiring like boys on the project!--

Capitol of Colony flies Union Jack on spire above cupola-

[Richmond]
Coming west, too, across Church Hill, the visitor has a noble prospect of
spires, blocks, and towers — a variety of castles in the air that would stir
the visionary, acquisitive Father Byrd. His Tory son, William Byrd III,
trying to recoup a squandered fortune, auctioned off the lots for the town in
1768.

In other Virginia cities older residents sometimes refer to Richmond as the
Holy City.--

Ya, see it is my contention that  Williamsburg is used in mind control and
other conspiratorial milieus. MHO. Bacon is buried there, I believe,also

Om
K
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"Go Make Tobacco"

When John Rolfe returned from England, his entrepreneurial eye must have
glistened to see that the tobacco seed he had planted was flourishing. Indeed
the Colonists were growing tobacco in Jamestown's streets. In a tawny leaf,
they had found gold.

King James, for one, was displeased. He said so in language that anticipated
the U.S. Surgeon General and indignant modern-day writers of letters to the
editor. In a "Counterblaste to Tobacco" he criticized the Colonists for the
"vile use" of that precious stink . . . "

But too late. The weed had taken hold, and with it, the Colony. Just how
tight a grip the plant had was evident in 1691 when the Virginia Assembly
authorized Commissary James Blair to go to England and seek a charter for a
proposed college. The King and Queen approved the grant, but Attorney'
General Edward Seymour, who had to draw the charter, balked.

But, argued Blair, the college would train ministers, and Virginians had
souls that needed saving.

"Souls! Damn your Souls! Make Tobacco!". shouted Seymour.

Could King James have seen the consequences of Virginians' making tobacco
along the creeks and rivers he would have been even more vehement in his
attack. Along with all the vices he attributed to it, tobacco engendered in
the Colonists a nasty addiction to independence which prompted them in time
to break away from England's apron strings.

In a lively, scholarly work, The Story of Tobacco in America, Dr. Joseph C.
Robert of the University of Richmond has termed the discovery that tobacco
could be successfully grown and profitably sold "the most momentous single
fact in the first century of settlement on the Chesapeake Bay."

The staple, writes Dr. Robert, "guaranteed the permanence of the Virginia
settlement; created the pattern of the Southern plantation; encouraged the
introduction of Negro slavery, then softened the institution; strained the
bonds between mother country and Chesapeake colonies; burdened the diplomacy
of the post-Revolutionary period; promoted the Louisiana Purchase; and after
the Civil War, helped create the New South..."

Americans ordinarily think of their country's progress as leap-frogging from
Jamestown to Williamsburg and the Revolution. But first the Colonists
ventured up Virginia's creeks and rivers.

(In Virginia's Tidewater there is little difference between the two. Where
Corotoman Creek joins the Rappahannock River, the site from which Robert
"King" Carter directed 42 plantations and 300,000 acres, the creek is three
miles wide. Other creeks in that vicinity arc Hull Creek, half a mile wide,
in Northumberland County, and Antipoison Creek and Dividing Creek in
Lancaster County, also half a mile wide. Tidewater's creeks would make
respectable rivers in Southwest Virginia.)

Up the creek or river a man cleared land on the bank and built a home that
was his castle. The thought began taking root on these far shores that a
man's castle was as good as a king's.

Instead of huddling like shopkeepers in a village, the planters spread apart.
Each managed a little world of wharf, warehouses, store, shipyard, farm, and
a dozen artisans. He was called upon to make incessant decisions. The habit
of judgment he formed in running the plantation was put to work in directing
the Colony through the church vestry, the court, and the elected House of
Burgesses and the appointed King's Council. The planters built, along with
their great houses, a gifted ruling class, and they cemented it with
marriages. The families formed a close-knit kingdom along tidal rivers, the
FFVs.

Their names flow th

[CTRL] Balkan Views: Then, Now & Later On: 04-19-99

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

>From TheHerald (UK)(probably Scotland)
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/19-4-1999-0-9-58.html
Serbs used CIA phone to call in convoy raid
IAN BRUCE, Geopolitics Editor

THE refugees targeted by mistake in the Nato raid involving the US Air Force
last Wednesday died because a Central Intelligence Agency undercover
operation involving the Kosovo Liberation Army went drastically wrong.

More than 70 fleeing men, women and children were killed as bombs straddled
their convoy of tractors and trailers on the Prizren to Djakovica road in
Kosovo, producing a propaganda disaster for Nato and triggering a furious
behind-the-scenes row between the Pentagon and the US intelligence
community.

The Herald can now reveal that the fatal strike was called in by the Serbs
using a mobile phone and security identification codes supplied to a KLA
"spotter" by the CIA. The man is believed to have been captured early last
week and tortured into telling what he knew. He was then executed.

Intelligence sources said last night that a joint CIA-US special forces
group operating out of the eastern Bosnian town of Tuzla is running a group
of KLA agents inside Kosovo. These men are tasked with reporting the
location and movements of all Serb troops and police units via mobile
phones.

The KLA spotters are being trained by the US equivalent of Britain's SAS -
Delta Force - in camps set up in Albania. They are taught to map read and
transmit exact co-ordinates of mobile Serb teams responsible for the ethnic
cleansing offensive inside the province.

The co-ordinates are then passed to allied air operations at Aviano air base
in Italy and fighter-bombers vectored in to attack with what was hoped would
be pinpoint precision.

The KLA fighters have individual identification codes for their CIA
handlers. Armed with those codes, the Serbs are understood to have called in
five different air strikes last Wednesday in the hope of luring Nato into
bombing refugees. Two involved RAF Harrier teams.

On those two occasions, the RAF pilots went below their "safe flight
ceiling" of 15,000ft to obtain visual confirmation of their targets when
they felt that something was not quite right. On both occasions, they
aborted the bombing runs.

However, on two other occasions, US pilots dropped bombs. One of these
incidents, when an F16 pilot hit the lead tractor in a three-vehicle convoy,
was admitted last week after 19 hours of frantic examination of cockpit
video footage and at least two fumbled explanations of events.

But the main incident, near Djakovica, remained a mystery until last night.
The Pentagon and Nato headquarters, furious at what one officer described as
"a typical CIA-sponsored spook screw-up", have been fielding awkward
questions for four days without being able to tell the truth or clear their
military reputation. Alliance politicians, including Tony Blair and Robin
Cook , have tried unsuccessfully to spin the intelligence shambles into
pinning the blame on Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic for provoking the
conflict in the first place.

Part of this cover-up stems from the fact that the UK and the United States
both see a Western-trained and armed KLA as the proxy ground arm of their
campaign and a means of avoiding the commitment of Nato ground troops and
inevitable heavy casualties.

There are 40,000 Serb troops, police and paramilitary volunteer units inside
Kosovo, supported by an estimated 500 surviving armoured vehicles, including
main battle tanks and artillery, in small groups and well camouflaged.

The SAS is understood to have about 70 men guiding in allied jets and
illuminating targets with laser designators. But they are thin on the ground
and the province consists of more than 11,000 square miles of heavily-wooded
hills and mountains. The KLA has perhaps 25,000 men under arms, scattered in
small groups in the hills.

The Serbs move in platoon-sized units of between 30 and 50 men, careful to
hide their vehicles when they halt. Barns, monasteries and mosques have all
been used to conceal the marauding armour from Nato pilots.

An intelligence source said: "Milosevic must have laughed himself sick.
Using CIA-supplied mobile phones to lure US pilots into doing a bit of final
ethnic cleansing for him is a neat trick and a major intelligence coup.

"We were probably lucky it only worked twice. It's a pity that 70-plus
refugees who must have thought they were within touching distance of safety
had to pay with their lives for a breach of security which could and should
have been foreseen. Perhaps the CIA should realise this is not Nicaragua,
where blunders could be buried without coming under the spotlight of the
world's media." - April 19


>From IrishTimes
Monday, April 19, 1999

Allies prepare for riots
ambushes and war



By Patsy McGarry in Skopje
High in the hills at Petrovec, overlooking Macedonia's international ai

[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Beast of the Month - April 1999

[Kris Millegan]

Please send as far and wide as possible.

Thanks,

Robert Sterling
Editor, The Konformist
http://www.konformist.com

Beast of the Month - April 1999
William Cohen, U.S. Secretary of Defense

"I yam an anti-Christ..."
John Lydon (aka Johnny Rotten) of The Sex Pistols, "Anarchy in the UK"

"Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good!"
Album title by Megadeth

In January 1999, President Bill Klinton proposed to increase the Pentagon
budget an additional $112 billion over six years, the largest peacetime
increase in military spending beside the peak of the Reagan era 15 years ago,
including more than $10 billion in new funds to develop a national missile
system (a rather ironic return of Star Wars just as Episode One fever is
beginning to catch.)  Coincidentally, during the entire Peckergate circus,
whenever the heat got too hot around Slick Willie's neck, another bombing
mission or military panic occurred.  This has led many (including those at
The Konformist) to point out the cynically obvious truth of reality mirroring
the film "Wag The Dog".  But who's really wagging who?  As has been
previously pointed out, Linda Tripp was an "operations assistant" at Delta
Force in Fort Bragg, North Carolina and an "administrative assistant" at U.S.
Army Intelligence headquarters, so there is reason to suspect that Klinton,
whatever his many faults are, was in some way "set up" in the Lewinsky affair
much like Nixon was with Watergate.  (That the Pentagon would view him and
Tricky Dick as "threats" worthy of setting up in the first place speaks
volumes about how much power and control it has over our political system.)
In any case, it isn't too out there to suggest Peckergate was a blackmail
attempt by the military-industrial komplex (Mikkies for short) to keep the
commander-in-chief in line, then offer him an out if he'd sign on to their
whole program.

What exactly is the whole program of the Mikkies?  That's a good question,
one that perhaps William Cohen, the Secretary of Defense (and thus
symbolically the leader of the US military after El Presidente himself) and
our April 1999 Beast of the Month, doesn't even know the answer to.  Still,
it is an important question as the war in Kosovo rages on.  As the $112
billion increase suggests, however, one part of it is to control a greater
sum of the national economy, which they currently vacuum from over a quarter
trillion dollars.  This besides the fact that even the excuse of a cold war
doesn't exist.  No matter: in his six-year defense plan, Clinton wants the
yearly purchase for new weapons to increase from $49 billion for fiscal 1999
to $75.1 billion in 2005.  To justify such absurd expenditures, bogeyman must
be manufactured, and last month a biggie was found: China, who it is alleged
is engaging in spying for nuclear secrets against the US.  Never mind that
spying is a given between countries, or that the real China scandal is how
the American business establishment is chumming up with the Evil Empire of
the Orient (as is Slick Willie himself, particularly through dubious
fundraisng courtesy of the Lippo group) because of the huge potential
profits, human rights be damned, or that the Chinese government, for all its
viciousness, is no threat to the American people (though it certainly is to
the people of China and their neighbors.)  Despite all this, the sudden
"discovery" of a Chinese spying scandal managed to create more support for
defense spending, and (by a vote of 97-3) the Senate voted build a national
missile defense "as soon as technologically possible."

If merely siphoning money from people's paychecks was the worst of the
Mikkies' deeds, they would merely be another typical power-hungry
institution.  Unfortunately, money doesn't seem to be all that the Pentagon
is interested.  Consider the following:

* Numerous recent reports across the country of mysterious web-like contrails
following planes - identified as Air Force crafts because of their type -
that cause sickness in people.  Though there is certainly a bit of a hysteria
in some of the claims (not ALL contrails are proof of devious operations) it
appears true that hospital emergency rooms in some areas, including Seattle,
Portland, Georgia, and Northern California, have been flooded with patients
suffering the effects of such sprayings.  It certainly is par for the course,
who regularly have used citizens as guinea pigs for their experiments.

* The Air Force has decided to go forward with a court martial against an
airman who refuses to participate in thesix months confinement to demotion
and punitive discharge for refusing to participate in the mandatory
inoculation plan.  The plan, created by Cohen, officially aims to immunize
all troops against anthrax by 2004 or 2005, but there are serious question of
long-term side effects, including the possible link between the vaccine and
Gulf War Syndrome.  At the Camp Pendleton Marine base near San Diego, about
20 Marines also have refused the an

[CTRL] Clark on the offensive

[Hilary A. Thomas]

 -Caveat Lector-

Clark on the offensive
April 18, 1999
BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Members of Congress who, during their spring recess, met in Brussels with
Gen. Wesley Clark, the NATO supreme commander, were startled by his
bellicosity.
According to the lawmakers, Clark suggested the best way to handle Russia's
supply of oil to Yugoslavia would be aerial bombardment of the pipeline
that runs through Hungary. He also proposed bombing Russian warships that
enter the battle zone.
The American general was described by the members of the congressional
delegation as waging a personal vendetta against Yugoslav President
Slobodan Milosevic. "I think the general might need a little sleep,"
commented one House member.
No `Pearl Harbor'
An invitation by House Speaker Dennis Hastert for President Clinton to
address a joint session of Congress before launching air strikes against
Yugoslavia was quietly rejected by the White House.
Senior Clinton advisers sent word to Capitol Hill that the president did
not want to exaggerate the seriousness of the situation. One aide said
there was no need for a "Pearl Harbor" scenario--a reference to President
Franklin D. Roosevelt's Dec. 8, 1941 speech to a joint session requesting a
declaration of war the day after Japan's surprise attack.
Many Democrats think Clinton should have delivered a comprehensive report
to the nation long ago.
Protesting a senator
The determination by Sen. Phil Gramm, the new Banking Committee chairman,
to scale back the Community Reinvestment Act requiring banks to make home
loans in low-income areas hardened last Sunday when 13 busloads of
protesters appeared at his Washington home--trampling his flower beds and
littering his lawn.
A distraught Gramm appeared at the weekly luncheon of Republican senators
Tuesday to tell them about the protesters and ask each colleague for 10
minutes to explain his position. He considers the CRA a form of extortion
and would exempt small rural banks from requirements. Clinton has made
clear he will veto the Financial Institutions Modernization Act if it
contains Gramm's CRA amendment.
The hundreds of protesters who appeared at Gramm's house are members of the
Chicago-based National People's Action. The senator declined to answer the
door, and instead called the police, who broke up the demonstration.
No tax-cut Lott
Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott demonstrated the low priority he puts on
tax reduction when he declined to participate in an April 15 anti-tax rally
at the Capitol that was attended by House Speaker Hastert.
The reason for his absence given by Lott's office was a conflicting meeting
on the budget by the Republican congressional leadership. But that session
was scheduled for 3:15 p.m., while the rally (which required only about 10
minutes of Lott's time) started at 1 p.m.
The real reason, according to Capitol Hill sources, was that the majority
leader wanted the tax-day emphasis on the budget, not taxes.
Lott was to have been given a "friend of the taxpayer" award at the rally,
as Hastert was. The emphasis at the event was a proposed constitutional
amendment requiring a two-thirds majority to pass tax increases.
Honoring Henry
Lobbyists and activists with business before the House Judiciary Committee
are being urged to buy $10,000 tables for a dinner at Washington's
Mayflower Hotel Tuesday honoring Chairman Henry Hyde and other Republican
members of the committee who were managers in President Clinton's
impeachment trial.
The dinner is sponsored by the Independent Women's Action Project, a
conservative organization, to pay tribute to Hyde and his team. But with
tickets going slowly, pressure was put on last week to appeal to the
special interests of possible buyers.
A footnote: The testimonial dinner for Newt Gingrich in Washington
Wednesday night fell about halfway short of its $1 million goal for the
former House speaker's political action committee, despite late pleas to
lobbyists to buy tickets.

Robert Novak appears on the CNN programs "Capitol Gang" at 6 p.m. Saturday,
and "Evans, Novak, Hunt and Shields" at 4 p.m. Saturday and 10 a.m. Sunday.

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[CTRL] Subject: Victims of Vaccines: Gulf War Syndrome

[Lloyd Miller]

-Original Message-From: Clifford M Dubery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Lloyd 
Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 
Monday, April 19, 1999 8:17 AMSubject: Victims of Vaccines: Gulf War 
SyndromeNew Scientist: 10 April 1999 page 5 www.newscientist.comVictims of 
VaccinesAn unlicensed ingredient may have made Gulf veterans ill.Byline: 
Deborah MacKenzieA FATTY substance originally isolated from sharks could 
explain Gulf WarSyndrome. Blood tests on sick veterans in the US show that 
nearly allproduce antibodies to squalene, a component of some experimental 
vaccines.Congress's General Accounting Office (GAO), which was asked to 
investigate,can't say for sure whether squalene was used on Gulf War troops. 
But it isnow demanding further tests for squalene antibodies in military 
personnel.The Department of Defense is opposed to this.Around 
100,000 troops who served in the 1991 Gulf conflict with Iraqdeveloped a 
mysterious illness involving memory loss, thyroid disorders,allergies, 
fatigue, rashes and persistent pain. Military authorities andsufferers have 
long argued over the cause of the symptoms and whether adistinct syndrome 
even exists.Bob Garry, a virologist at Tulane University in New Orleans, 
has now tested400 Gulf War veterans for antibodies to squalene, a polymer of 
fatty acidsfound in small quantities in human cell membranes. Ninety-five 
per cent ofthe veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome (GWS) had high 
levels ofsqualene antibodies. People don't usually have enough squalene in 
theirblood to prompt the production of detectable levels of antibodies, and 
noneof the veterans without symptoms had antibodies. Garry's results have 
beenpeer reviewed, he says, and await publication.Squalene can be 
released into the blood by physical injuries, where itboosts the immune 
system's response to foreign antigens. This "adjuvant"effect means 
it is widely used in animal vaccines. Squalene is not licensedfor use as an 
adjuvant in people, although it has been used experimentallyon about 12,000 
people.Garry also tested two volunteers who had received experimental 
herpesvaccines containing squalene in trials run by the US National 
Institute ofHealth. Both have high levels of squalene antibodies and 
symptoms similarto GWS. This suggests that GWS could be caused by the body 
turning againstits own, natural squalene.Jim Turner, a spokesman for 
the Department of Defense, says: "During theGulf War, we never used 
squalene in vaccines." But many soldiers'vaccination records have been 
lost, which makes this difficult to verify.Jack Metcalf, a Republican member 
of Congress from Washington state, whoasked the GAO to investigate, says: 
"In light of the number of misstatementsDoD made to the GAO during this 
investigation, we cannot be expected tosimply accept their denial of 
squalene use."Vaccines have often come under suspicion as a cause 
of GWS. Gulf Warsoldiers were the first to be systematically vaccinated 
against anthrax andplague because Iraq was thought to have biological 
weapons. France was theonly country not to vaccinate its troops, and only 
French veterans are freeof GWS. In January, researchers at King's College 
Hospital in Londonreported that exposure to plague and anthrax vaccines was 
a factor thatcorrelated most strongly with GWS in British veterans. GWS 
activists claimthat some British soldiers received American 
vaccines.GWS has also been blamed on exposure to chemicals in Iraq. But 
Garry foundsqualene antibodies in six soldiers were vaccinated but never 
went to theGulf.The Gulf War Veterans Association, based in 
Versailles, Missouri, suspectsthat most cases of GWS were caused by 
experimental vaccines. If so, saysthe association's Dave vonKleist, this 
would violate the NurembergConvention. "Military personnel are not 
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[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: THE NON-JEWS BEHIND KOSOVO

[Kris Millegan]

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Date:   Sunday, April 18, 1999 01:01:16 PM
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 THE NON-JEWS BEHIND KOSOVO by Barry Chamish

   The American team behind the Yugoslav War have Jewish names and look very
Jewish. This is a sad and humiliating fact...and it shouldn't take the
anti-semites long to make a few associations and call the bloodletting in
the Balkans a Jewish plot. However, if a plot exists, it is being managed by
the very antithesis of Judaism, those who have abandoned Judaism for good.

  Let us look at the core of the visible team:

  William Cohen- Secretary Of Defense- Longtime member of the Council On
Foreign Relations. Headed the notorious 1997 CFR Task Force On The Middle
East, which called for Israel's withdrawal to 1948 lines and the division of
Jerusalem, until replaced later by Henry Seigman. Though he has a Jewish
father, Cohen was raised as Protestant and maintains no Jewish religious
ties whatsoever.

  Mad Madeleine Albright- Secretary Of State- Longtime member of the CFR.
Her story is absolutely surreal. Born and raised Jewish in Czechoslovakia,
she escaped the Holocaust and was cared for by Jewish relatives in London.
Yet, over the years she forgot her entire childhood and adolescence,
claiming she's always been a Christian. Her memory was jarred only when the
Washington Post printed her true biography during the very week she was
appointed Secretary of State. The woman did not simply disavow her Jewish
roots, for fifty years she pretended they didn't exist. And for much of her
term in office, she has been obsessed with pressing Israel to withdraw to
suicidal borders.

 James Rubin- State Department Spokesman- Member of the CFR. Recently
married CNN Kosovo reporter Christiane Amanpour in a church. Has adopted
Christianity. While longtime CFR member Ted Turner's CNN grinds out the New
World Order vision through Amanpour, Rubin coordinates the illusion as
Alberight's supercilious mouthpiece.

   This trio is hiding behind the bloodshed they are fomenting with a
curtain woven of humanitarian goodness for the Kosovo refugees. Never mind
that the refugees would not have been there to cover their deeds without the
NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. So far the facade is holding up but the curtain
will eventually fall and when it does, thanks to this triumvirate of evil,
Jews are going to be left holding the bag.
   When that day comes, let all so inclined to see the Jewish hand in NWO
machinations recall that this war is in the hands of people who found the
deep morality of Judaism not to their liking. They abandoned Judaism, and
while Yugoslavia is their current target for destruction, Israel is next on
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[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: OKC Bombing

[Kris Millegan]

Please send as far and wide as possible.

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Subj:   URGENT - OKC Bombing
Date:   Friday, April 16, 1999 07:38:16 PM
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please give this immediate worldwide distribution.

I need a commitment from one or more of our operatives or friendly patriots
to be at this announcement, record it on video and audio and send me the
tapes ASAP. Read on... and if you can commit to do this notify me
immediately.

The last key to solving the Oklahoma City Bombing might be falling into
place. We have named the American dupes who were used in an effort to
implicate American Militia with white supremacist agenda and thus destroy
the movement... it failed in that regard.

For more info on the American participants see:
http://harvest-trust.org/plot.htm

We also discovered that key middle eastern terrorists were in Oklahoma City
prior to and on the day of the bombing. They could not have entered the
United States without the blessings of the CIA and the Justice Department.
Major Michele Marie Moore, leading the investigation, was ordered not to
divulge those connections until we could link the terrorists with the CIA. A
premature disclosure of the information would completely sidetrack any link
to American Intelligence apparatus.

Since Moore's resignation from 2CAR she has been free to disclose whatever
she wishes. I do not know if she has publicly revealed the presence in
Oklahoma City of middle eastern terrorists but I believe that she will tell
the truth if asked. The CIA, as I have always told you, is responsible for
the bombing. Now the rest of the story may be about to break.

Cary Gagan who who claims to be a CIA operative will announce this weekend
that he provided key explosive ingredients to middle eastern operatives who
brought down the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. He will state that he
did so under orders from his CIA superiors... that is if he lives to make
the announcement. Gagan will make the announcement at the Roadhouse Casino
in Henderson, Nevada this Sunday night. Be there if you can and record the
whole meeting. I do not know if he is who he claims to be or if he will be
telling the truth... he could come off intentionally as just another nut in
order to discredit any future link to the CIA that might be made by
legitimate investigators. We will see... cross your fingers as Ted Gunderson
ex-SAC Los Angeles FBI is involved in this and, even though he appears to be
an honest Patriot, we have never been able to trust him completely.

For more information call Doug at 702-736-2332.

William Cooper, Director
Intelligence Service
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[CTRL] Inquiring Minds Wanna Know

[Bill Richer]

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Inquiring Minds Wanna Know

Columnist Paul Greenberg posed some nagging questions about the Kosovo
operation in the April 12 edition of the Washington Times...

*  Why was the most foreseeable result of any war - refugees - not foreseen?

*  Why weren't attack helicopters - not to mention adequate food, supplies,
armaments and troops - sent to the Balkans BEFORE the air war was launched?
It's called preparation.

*  Why isn't every Albanian boy being taught how to shoot?  Why isn't every
Albanian girl being taught how to shoot?

*  Why aren't we giving every able-bodied Albanian who has managed to flee
Kosovo a weapon, training and a place in the newly-formed ranks of a
well-organized, highly disciplined and all-encompassing Kosovan army of
liberation?

*  Why aren't the lights out in Belgrade?

*  Why is Serbian television still on the air?

*  Why is Slobodan Milosevic's presidential palace still standing?  Or do we
care more about saving buildings than people?

*  Where is the rest of the world?  Where are the doctors, the nurses, the
medical supplies, the sanitation needed to keep disease at bay in these
sprawling refugee camps?

*  Who is in charge here - NATO's commanding general, it's secretary general,
the president of the United States, anybody?

*  Why did NATO's commander have to wait so long for the attack helicopters
that should have been in place and standing by, like so much else, weeks and
months ago?

*  What masterminds planned this operation?  Sandy Berger, the president's
national insecurity adviser?  Madeleine Albright, our secretary of state and
vacillation?  And why haven't they submitted their resignations?

*  Why has this administration steadily underfunded military budgets while
overcommitting military forces around the world?

*  Why is the Air Force running short of cruise missiles?

*  AND WHY DIDN'T BILL CLINTON EVER TAKE THAT ROTC COURSE!

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Re: [CTRL] The Virginia Way - Capitol of Colony flies Union Jack onspireabove cupola - NOW

[Howard R. Davis III]

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Kris Millegan wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> An excerpt from:
> The Virginia Way
> Guy Friddell -Text
> Wolfgang Roth -Photographs
> ©1973 by BURDA GmbH
> Offenburg
> Printed in West Germany
> -
> Some of the tidbits amongst the chaff;
>

>
> During the Civil War General McClellan made Berkeley his headquarters. In
> 1862 General Butterfield composed taps there.

Just a couple of days ago we had a story of how it was composed by a
young Confederate soldier who died in his father's arms, etc. Which is
true?

Howard Davis

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[CTRL] Fwd: What the US wants in Kosovo...

[Kris Millegan]

Subj:   Re: What the US wants in Kosovo...
Date:   99-04-19 17:05:41 EDT
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Carrara)

On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Im not saying WWII was the best thing to do but, the axis forces DID in
fact
> surrender after Hiroshima/ Nagasaki even though it COULDVE happened in
> other ways.  So I'd like to know what everyone on this list thinks what an
> IDEALISTIC United States would've  done to stop the war given the chance.
> What would have been the best way to prevent a situation like that,
> w/o violence.  Im just saying I don't know what else wouldve worked... in
> terms of violence vs. trying to work it out peacefully...

Hopefully this will answer your question, to the best of my capabilities due
to time contraints.

First off, from a preventive angle, the U$, along with France and England
could have not done such a wonderful job of appeasing Hitler and Mussolini
throughout the 1930's.  I'm sure you know that the reason for U$ intervention
in WWII had *nothing* to do with Hitler's anti-Semitic policies nor did it
have anything to do with his proclamation of the supremacy of the Nordic
"race."  After all, that would be rather hypocritical as the U$ was still
segregated, including within the army where they even went so far as to
segregate their blood samples and blacks were kept below the deck near the
engine rooms away from the fresh air (reminiscent of the day blacks were
shipped on slave ships from Africa).  I also recently learned in my Native
American Indians class that many Indians were led to believe that the ships
they were being loaded onto would be taken them to reservations, when in fact
they were being shipped to Europe to fight for the same country that once
committed genocide against them.

Roosevelt and Secretary of State Cordell Hull had the chance to publicly
criticize Hitler's anti-Semitic policies in a resolution introduced in the
Senate in 1934 asking the President to express "surprise and pain" at what
was happening to the Jews in Nazi Germany, the resolution was buried.  When
Mussolini invaded Ethiopia in 1935, the U.S. continued to send oil to Italy,
oil that was essential to Mussolini carrying about with his fascist plans.
Then of course there is Spain, for when the socialist-liberal government took
place, the U$ developed a neutrality act that acted to allow Hitler and
Mussolini to give aid to Franco and his fascist opposition to the newly
elected socialist government.

Then there is Japan, and the "Open Door Policy" which shared the exploitation
of China with Japan, until the U$ felt threatened that Japan was getting a
little too greedy and powerful with their exploitation, at which point the U$
created a total embargo on iron and oil in 1941, shortly before Pearl Harbor
(the *only* reason the U$ ever entered WWII).  The U$ knew damn well that
this embargo that devestated Japan's economy would have severe consequences,
one Congressman even stated that the actions that the U$ were taking against
Japan were "widely recognized in Washington as carrying grave risks of war."
Another White House conference two weeks before Pearl Harbor showed that the
U$ was already anticipating a war and were discussing how it should be
justified.  So there's just a few examples of preventive measures that could
have been undertaken in the first place.

As for the atomic bombs falling on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as ending the war.
Italy has been defeated an entire year before the bombs were dropped, Germany
shortly after Italy.  Japan had reached a conditional surrender with their
ambassador in Moscow, under the condition that the Emperor, an extremely
important holy figure to the Japanese, remain in place.  This is the *only*
condition, a simple request if you ask me, but the U$ would not budge, they
wanted an unconditional surrender.  Why else did the U$ drop those bombs?
Well one thing that has been said is that too much time and money had already
been invested in developing this atomic bomb, they *had* to drop it (remember
Albright's statement to Powel, "what's the point of having the most powerful
military in the world if we can't even use it").  This argument has merit,
but even more so is the fact that the U$ wanted to destroy Japan so that they
could instill their imperial powers before Russia did.  For if Russia were to
destroy Japan before the U$, Japan would have surrendered to Russia, and they
would have complete control to Japan, as we did post-WWII.  Russia had said
(promised) that they would enter the war with Japan exactly 90 afters after
the European war ended.  Germany surrendered on May 8, making August 8 the 90
day mark that Russia had promised to enter into the war against Japan.  The
first bomb fell on Hiroshima August 6, the second bomb fell on Nagasaki on
August 7, literally day(s) before Russia had promised to enter into the war!
Is this a coincidence, I think not!  A former Secretary of the Navy said
about Secretary of 

[CTRL] Very Good letter by one of the escorts of the soldier who was killed

[Bill Richer]

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All-  Very Good letter by one of the escorts of the soldier who was
  killed in 1-10 CAV at JRTC. Read, enjoy, and share with someone. BG



Dear America:

 I am writing this letter to extend thanks to all the American
people who still, despite the recent headlines undermining the ethics
and morality of the military, understand that our jobs and way of life
are necessary to preserve the "American" way of life.  I once thought
that "America" viewed us as most media portrays us; immoral, unethical,
and uncivilized.  My recent travels led me to conclude that the opposite
is true.  You, the American people, that honor and respect what we do,
deserve a public "thank you."

 Just a few weeks ago, a tragedy embedded itself in the tall
evergreen forests at the Joint Readiness Training Center in Fort Polk,
LA.  As a tank slowly slalomed through the trees after sunset on
January 14, 1998, the tank commander fell victim to the inherent
danger of the military.  SGT(P) Donald Wayne Slover passed away that
night as he was guiding his tank through the thickest of trees, fog,
and rain.  The tank's edge clipped and uprooted a tree, which sent it
crashing to the ground.  The medics, arriving on site only minutes
later, felt SGT(P) Slover's last pulse.

 As one of two military escorts, I was required to accompany the
remains from the training area to the burial site, ensuring the proper
and unimpaired delivery to the next of kin.  The obligation required a
two day journey from Fort Hood, TX, to Williamsburg, KY, via Fort
Polk, LA.  Loading, unloading, and transportation of the remains
required our physical presence.  This particular trip entailed a three
hour van ride, a connecting flight in Atlanta in route to Knoxville,
and a 1 hour drive to Williamsburg, KY.

 Upon boarding our initial flight out of Houston we informed the
flight attendant of our duties.  After explaining that it was
necessary for us to depart the plane first upon landing (so as not to
delay the cargo personnel unloading the casket), two gentlemen offered
their seats in the first row of the plane for our last row seats.
This gesture left me speechless.  I'm not so sure they even knew our
purpose for having to be first off the plane, but with no questions
immediately sacrificed their front row seats.

 After arriving in Atlanta, we were escorted by airport personnel
off the plane and down to the tarmac.  Standing in our dress green
uniforms, we watched as the airline employees carefully unloaded the
casket onto the cargo truck.  The truck drove off to the departing
gate and we made our way back inside the terminal.  We met the cargo
truck at the departure gate and again were escorted down to the tarmac
to supervise the loading of our final flight.  Following the loading,
we turned and headed back to the terminal.  As we made that walk, I
noticed that we were being watched by the crowd awaiting the outbound
flight.  Not thinking much about it at the time, I scurried out of the
cold and awaited the boarding call.

 We boarded the plane and again informed the flight attendant of
our duties and departure requirements.  The flight was booked, every
seat filled, and she told us that she would make an announcement upon
landing that we were to exit the plane first.  Having been on full
flights before, I was for certain that this announcement would be
ignored.  Passengers are normally elbow deep in the overhead
compartments as soon as the wheels touch the ground.  I was 100%
positive I would be the last person off that flight.  But I took my
seat in the back of the plane, my partner 10 rows in front, and with
all of my military skills tried to devise a plan that could project me
to the front of that plane upon landing.  I concluded that even
generals would have a rough time planning such an operation.

 As the plane touched down in Knoxville, the flight attendant gave
the standard "keep your seat-belts fastened until the captain turns
off the seat-belt sign" announcement.  She then led into the fact that
two military escorts were on-board and that everyone must remain in
their seats until we departed the plane.  The plane parked and to my
astonishment, not a soul moved.  I'd never witnessed such absolute
silence in my life.  Many of the passengers turned their heads to the
rear of the plane but not a sound was made as myself and the other
escort donned our jackets, grabbed our bags, and headed down the
aisle.  I realized then that all eyes were on us.  As we neared the
exit an older gentleman leaned toward us and broke the silence with
something I will never forget, "God bless you both." he said.

 I am, sir, most truly blessed.  I have been afforded the
opportunity to work alongside some of the greatest sons and daughters
of our nation.  We know and understand that each day presents the
possibility of injury and/or death and we take all precautions to
prevent them.  But we sacrifice that possibility because yo

[CTRL] Fwd: Afghanistan

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What Will U.S. Trade for Bin Laden

Summary:

The U.S. has expressed the belief that Osama bin Laden is
preparing more terrorist attacks -- a fear no doubt enhanced by
reports that a group affiliated with bin Laden has chemical and
biological weapons.  While U.S. forces are reportedly encamped on
the Afghan border, the U.S. still needs Taleban help to capture
bin Laden.  The question is, what does Washington have to offer
in return?

Analysis:

On April 14, Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia Karl
Inderfurth told a Senate panel that the U.S. is convinced that
Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden is planning further attacks,
while Afghanistan's ruling Taleban, who have thus far provided
bin Laden with a safe haven, appear divided over whether or not
to hand bin Laden over to the U.S.  "We feel very confident of
the charges we have made about bin Laden's active role in the
bombings that took place in East Africa, and we believe he is
planning further such terrorist action," Inderfurth said.  "That
has given us a sense of urgency about bringing him to justice.
We believe the Taleban leadership is torn about how to deal with
him but they recognize that the cost of having him stay in
Afghanistan clearly outweighs over time the benefit of keeping
him there."  Inderfurth then warned the Senate panel of a likely
upsurge in fighting in Afghanistan this spring.  He said that,
"The Taleban seem to be readying their fighters for an all-out
blitz on the battlefield.  Spring is the time when either the
fighting resumes or they take a different direction."

In related development, the London-based newspaper Al-Hayat ran a
story on April 19 about Ahmad Salama Mabrouk, a jailed member the
Egyptian militant group Al-Jihad.  Al-Jihad is a member of bin
Laden's umbrella group International Islamic Front for Fighting
Jews and Crusaders (IIFFJC).  Al-Hayat reported Mabrouk as saying
that not only does IIFFJC possess biological and chemical weapons
but it also is planning about "100 operations" against U.S. and
Israeli interests around the world.  The report went on to state
that the details of these planned attacks were found on a
computer program, which was confiscated by the U.S. Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA) in September 1998 at the time Mabrouk
was taken into custody in Azerbaijan.

More than just expressing its fears, the U.S. may be prepared to
act on them.  On April 15, the Afghan newspaper "Wahdat" reported
that the U.S. is setting up secret bases on the Afghan border to
launch an operation against bin Laden.  The newspaper also
confirmed that the U.S. had established contacts with some
Taleban leaders to seek their help in a possible operation to
capture bin Laden.  This is not the first time allegations have
surfaced that U.S. commandos or agents have attempted to nab bin
Laden.  Nor is it the first time -- each previous abduction
attempt apparently failing -- that the conclusion has been
reached that the U.S. needs the Taleban's help if it hopes to
capture the terrorist.

In the past, the U.S. has hinted at offering the Taleban
diplomatic recognition in exchange for handing over bin Laden to
U.S. custody.  Thus far, the Taleban have rejected this offer,
however helpful to the Taleban position U.S. diplomatic
recognition would be.  They have remained good Moslem hosts, even
though many in the Taleban have begun expressing reservations
about harboring him.  Moreover, the U.S. has kept its offer of
recognition at the officially-denied hint level, due to concerns
about the Taleban's fundamentalist Islamic social policies.

Still, the U.S. may once again be prepared to offer the Taleban
not only some form of recognition, but also economic incentives
such as pipeline contracts.  Formalizing relations with the
Taleban would offer two potential benefits.  Not only might the
U.S. get bin Laden, but recognition might forestall the Taleban's
Spring offensive.  The U.S. would have a better chance -- if only
slightly -- to moderate Taleban policies and mediate some form of
government of national reconciliation if it recognizes the
Taleban before they either conquer the remainder of Afghanistan
or get deadlocked in a new round of intense warfare.

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Re: [CTRL] The Virginia Way - Capitol of Colony flies Union Jack onspireabove cupola - NOW

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

I dunna know, The Story of Taps wasn't sourced.  Perhaps  Bill Richer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> can let us all know.  The locale of the story does seem to be
the same in both but the suggested author of taps are different

The Story of Taps - Union Army Captain Robert Ellicombe from a note found his
dead son's pocket, who was fighting for the Confederacy.

The Virginia Way -  Union Army General Butterfield

Quien Sabe?

But what about the fact that the Union Jack flies at Williamsburg instead of
Old Glory?

Om
K




In a message dated 4/19/99 5:18:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> During the Civil War General McClellan made Berkeley his headquarters. In
>
>> 1862 General Butterfield composed taps there.
>
>
>
>Just a couple of days ago we had a story of how it was composed by a
>
>young Confederate soldier who died in his father's arms, etc. Which is
>
>true?
>
>
>
>Howard Davi

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[CTRL] [Fwd: UNDERNEWS Apr 19]

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UNDERNEWS
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WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON?
THE QUESTION WITH NO RIGHT ANSWER

A friend forwards a message from a prominent environmentalist writer who
offers a litany of conflicting information coming from the Balkans. Small
sample:

"Dissident friends in Belgrade are furious that, as their independent
presses are shut down and as the Serbs rally behind Milosevic, their fight
for democracy 'has been set back 10 years.' Friends of those friends in the
U.S. are furious with those dissidents, because they show more concern for
their own struggle than they do for the suffering of the Albanian Kosovars.
But then I'm told that nobody in Serbia has heard anything about the
suffering of the Albanian Kosovars -- which we see every night on our TV.
The Serbs are trying to rid Kosovo of Albanians, but, I am told, the KLA was
trying to rid Kosovo of Serbs."

Then she asks: how can we take sides here?

The question unconsciously presumes the righteousness of conflict, leaving
to us only the choice of loyalty. Once we accept this question we have
joined the battle. And how do we make this choice? How much of the right has
to be one side or the other to justify our billion-dollar-a-week
bombardment? 80%? 60% or perhaps just 50.5%?

The alternative is to come up with better questions. Such as how can we
mitigate the harm being caused by various parties in the Balkans? How can
save we the most lives and the greatest amount of habitat of those living in
the region? How can we bring peace?

We live in a highly dichotomized time. Propagandists constantly ask us to
make abysmally simplistic bifurcations that serve no one but those for whom
they spin.

Only when we stop choosing sides and start choosing resolutions will real
alternatives begin to appear. There is no shortage of these; there is a
terrible shortage of voices demanding them.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT RAMBOUILLET?
>From FAIR

Since the beginning of the NATO attack on Yugoslavia, the war has been
presented by the media as the consequence of Yugoslavia's stubborn refusal
to settle for any reasonable peace plan, in particular its rejection of
plans for an international security force to implement a peace plan in
Kosovo.

An article in the April 14 New York Times stated that Yugoslavian President
Milosevic "has absolutely refused to entertain an outside force in Kosovo,
arguing that the province is sovereign territory of Serbia and Yugoslavia."

Negotiations between the Serb and Albanian delegations at the Rambouillet
meeting in France ended with Yugoslavia's rejection of the agreement
adopted, after much prodding, by the Albanian party.

But is that the whole story? On February 21, the Yugoslavs assented to the
terms of the political portion of the Rambouillet agreement. Their rejection
stemmed from their opposition to the requirement that 28,000 NATO troops be
stationed in Kosovo to oversee the implementation of the accord. This
military clause, requiring NATO troops, was inserted without the knowledge
of the Russian representatives, who opposed the provision.

[The Institute for Public Accuracy reports that the Rambouillet text of Feb.
23, a month before NATO began bombing, also contains provisions that seem to
have allowed NATO to occupy the entire Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, not
just Kosovo. Excerpts from Appendix (B):

7. NATO personnel shall be immune from any form of arrest, investigation, or
detention by the authorities in the FRY. 8. NATO personnel shall enjoy...
free and unrestricted passage and unimpeded access throughout the FRY
including associated airspace and territorial waters. 11. NATO is granted
the use of airports, roads, rails and ports without payment... 15. [NATO
shall have] the right to use all of the electromagnetic spectrum... ]

By the close of the first round of the Rambouillet talks in late February,
Serb President Milan Milutinovic had already declared Serbia's willingness
to discuss "an international presence in Kosovo" to monitor the
implementation of the accords. On February 21, Madeleine Albright responded
by insisting that "We accept nothing less than a complete agreement,
including a NATO-led force."

On March 23, the day before the NATO bombing began, the Serbian parliament
adop

[CTRL] Fw: Poison Gas Engulfs Belgrade

[Lloyd Miller]

 -Caveat Lector-

-Original Message-
From: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:05 AM
Subject: Poison Gas Engulfs Belgrade


Be sure to see the lead photo at The Times (London):

http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/04/19/timfgnkos02002.html?11240
27

of a massive cloud several-thousand feet high
over Belgrade Yugoslavia that contains chlorine
and phosgene gas, both gases used in World War
I. Phosgene is twice as poisonous as chlorine,
and it kills by asphyxiation. This mass gassing
of Yugoslavia is reported to be an accident.
Oops... please excuse the poison gassing.

Will the U.S. war on Yugoslavia gas innocent
civilians to death on April 19, 1999 like the
U.S. Government did in Waco on April 19, 1993?
(see http://www.bigeye.com/pentwaco.htm) It's
is also reported that the poison cloud over
Belgrade may spread into other countries.

Here's CNN's April 19 coverage of bombing
Belgrade, and not a single work on the gas:
CNN: "More bombs fall on Belgrade, Serbs say"
(April 19, 1999 Web posted at: 12:30 a.m. EDT)
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9904/19/kosovo.01


Excerpts from The Times (London) April 19, 1999:


Poison cloud engulfs Belgrade

AN ecological disaster was unfolding
yesterday after Nato bombed a combined
petrochemicals, fertiliser and refinery
complex on the banks of the Danube in the
northern outskirts of Belgrade.

A series of detonations that shook the whole
city early yesterday sent a toxic cloud of
smoke and gas hundreds of feet into the
night sky. In the dawn the choking cloud
could be seen spreading over the entire
northern skyline.

Among the cocktail of chemicals billowing
over hundreds of thousands of homes were
the toxic gas phosgene, chlorine and
hydrochloric acid. Workers at the industrial
complex in Pancevo panicked and decided
to release tons of ethylene dichloride, a
carcinogen, into the Danube, rather than
risk seeing it blown up.

. . .

Asked about the hazard from chemical
smoke, Nato said there was "a lot more
smoke coming from burning villages in
Kosovo".

. . .

Mr Dzindo said an airstrike three nights
ago had grazed a tank containing 20,000
tons of liquid ammonia. If that had gone
up in flames, he said, much of Belgrade
would have been poisoned. Against the roar
of thunder and the crackle of the burning
oil refinery, the Serbian Ecology Minister,
Dragoljub Jelovic, accused Nato of trying
to destroy the whole Yugoslav environment.
He said the pollution in the Danube and in
the atmosphere over Belgrade "knows no
frontiers" and he warned neighbouring
countries that the poison clouds could
soon be with them.

A westerly wind had taken the worst of the
gases away from Belgrade, he said, but he
predicted that they could soon reach
Romania.

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[Lloyd Miller]

Title: Balkans War:




 

 
 

 









April 19 1999 




BALKANS 
WAR



 




Nato crippled the Serb oil industry yesterday. 
Tom Walker reports from Belgrade 
 
©



A towering cloud of 
toxic gases looms over Belgrade after warplanes, 
on the 25th night of the Nato onslaught, hit a 
petrochemicals plant in the northern outskirts 
of the city Photograph: PETAR 
KUJUNDZIC/REUTERS 

Poison cloud engulfs 
Belgrade 





AN 
ecological disaster was unfolding yesterday after Nato 
bombed a combined petrochemicals, fertiliser and 
refinery complex on the banks of the Danube in the 
northern outskirts of Belgrade. 
A series of detonations that shook the whole city 
early yesterday sent a toxic cloud of smoke and gas 
hundreds of feet into the night sky. In the dawn the 
choking cloud could be seen spreading over the entire 
northern skyline. 
Among the cocktail of chemicals billowing over 
hundreds of thousands of homes were the toxic gas 
phosgene, chlorine and hydrochloric acid. Workers at the 
industrial complex in Pancevo panicked and decided to 
release tons of ethylene dichloride, a carcinogen, into 
the Danube, rather than risk seeing it blown up. 
At least three missile strikes left large areas of 
the plant crippled and oil and petrol from the damaged 
refinery area flowed into the river, forming slicks up 
to 12 miles long. Temperatures in the collapsing plant 
were said to have risen to more than 1,000C. Asked about 
the hazard from chemical smoke, Nato said there was 
"a lot more smoke coming from burning villages in 
Kosovo". 
Belgrade scientists told people to stay indoors and 
to avoid any fish caught in the Danube. They said 
pollution would spread downstream to Romania and 
Bulgaria and then into the Black Sea. 
At least 50 residents of Pancevo were reported 
suffering from poisoning and the Health Ministry was 
struggling to find gas masks to distribute in the 
surrounding areas. residents were told to breathe 
through scarves soaked in sodium bicarbonate as a 
precaution against showers of nitric acid. 
Thirteen hours after the first explosions, the 
Yugoslav Army took journalists to Pancevo just as a 
thunderstorm broke over the complex. 
As the director tried to hold a press conference in 
the fertiliser plant's headquarters offices, panes of 
glass and other fixtures loosened by the earlier 
explosions began falling from the building. The driving 

Re: [CTRL] "The First Casualty"

[Dennis, Andrew]

 -Caveat Lector-

>Measuring the effectiveness of an army by how many casualties it had is
>not very accurate. More importantly is the strength of that army, its
>potential, how many casualties it inflicts, and how much territory it
>takes. Before the US came into the war there was a basic stalemate.

True as far as it goes, but the economics of the situation were telling
on Germany.  Britain and France were still functioning economically, but
the German High Command had tried to run the war on the basis of a
command economy, with price controls and state-regulated production.
Like every other such system, it wrecked the economy.  Germany was
running out of the necessary wealth to maintain its army in the field;
the army itself was still a fully-functioning fighting force, but would
fairly soon have been unable to afford ammunition.  (Britain, by
comparison, imposed exactly one formal control on its economy: it
regulated pub opening hours to keep the munitions workers sober while
they assembled shells.  Those regulations were not relaxed until 1992,
and show no sign of being removed altogether before the end of the
millennium.  I digress.)

The casualty comparison was there not as a measure of effectiveness, but
rather to point out one of the flaws in the argument presented, which
was that the US presence in WWI was decisive and necessary.  It was,
rather, desirable and served to hasten the end of the war, forcing an
early capitulation.

> With the surrender of the Russians the balance would have shifted
towards the
>Germans. The Eastern front was large and took a considerable number of
>German combatants out of the western front.

Again, the numbers of combatants were not a problem.  It was logistics
and the constraints of a badly-managed war economy that was defeating
the German army.

> Even with the addition of
>the US fighting forces, Germany had not been invaded when it
>surrendered.

German forces had, however, been in continuous retreat for three months,
a fact which rather gives the lie to the 'stab in the back' proponents.

>However, it had become obvious to the German leadership
>that with the men and supplies now coming (and soon to come) from the
>US, there was no way the war could have been won.

That was the function of the US - they hastened the inevitable.  The
presence of the US gave the German High Command a face-saving excuse for
capitulation.

>Previous to the US
>entry, it was still possible for the German leadership to believe that
a
>favorable negotiated settlement was still possible with an exhausted
enemy.

It still wouldn't have been true.  Even without the US presence, Germany
was playing poker against opponents with deeper pockets - she couldn't
make that last raise that would have decided the hand.  (Soviet Russia
did the same thing in the Cold War).

Germany still faced Britain and France, both of whom had access to the
resources and markets of their overseas possessions and, domestically,
functioning free-market economies.  Germany, meanwhile, had been
bankrupted by four years of command economy, was blockaded along all of
her coastline, and had no navy with which to break the blockade.
Without the US, WWI would have ended in late 1919, early 1920 with
British and French troops on German soil.  What difference that would
have made to history, I leave for you all to speculate (some suggest
that it would have made Hitler's successes impossible, others that the
Soviet revolution would have spread to Germany).

Andrew
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[CTRL] Regulation of the E.O.'s

[Tsadowq]

 -Caveat Lector-

Preceding thread: Re: [CTRL] Can any verify this?

Fellow Lollards,

In a message dated 99-04-18 08:10:17 EDT, Foxter2000 wrote:
<< This cite to AmJur concerns laws not EO's.
 It has nothing to do with EO's.
 Only Congress can make laws.
 Only the President can make EO's.>>

This lollard, concurs with the lollard above.

The law that now governs the President's emergency powers is now
regulated under the National Emergencies Act (Order No. 95-753 ).

Still muttering,
Tsadowq

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Re: [CTRL] FALSE "Testimony" of NATO Bomber of Refugees

[Colleen Jones]

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Are we going to apologize now for every mistake Clinton makes?

Don't lay it on the pilots who are under orders.put the blame where
it belongs at Madame Albrights door, to the Clinton White House Motel.

If Congress makes this war legal, maybe we will not have to apologize
for every bomb that hits the innocents fleeing for their lives after
losing everything they had.

As for Slobo 1 in the White House, let him meet with Slobi II in
Serbiathose two have a lot in commonbut when he gets there lets
burn all the bridges behind him.

colleen

Clinton calls this a humanitarian effort?
We know he needs psychological help but the word commitment comes to
mind.

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[CTRL] FALSE "Testimony" of NATO Bomber of Refugees

[Das GOAT]

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 "NATO Brig. Gen. Giuseppe Marani said he produced the tape as "an
example'' of how a pilot might react and because the tape "was available.''


Confusion in NATO Account of Attack

By PAUL AMES
.c The Associated Press

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) -- Confusion over a deadly attack on a Kosovo refugee
convoy deepened Sunday after NATO said a tape of a pilot it presented after
the attack may not be the pilot who attacked the convoy.

Washington has said the pilot on the tape described a strike against military
targets -- without hitting civilians. However, NATO Brig. Gen. Giuseppe
Marani said the pilot may indeed have struck civilians, adding that NATO is
awaiting the results of an inquiry.

Marani said he produced the tape as ``an example'' of how a pilot reacts
during a ground attack over Kosovo and because ``that tape was clear, was
available.''

On Wednesday, Yugoslav authorities said NATO planes had killed more than 60
Kosovo Albanians in an attack on a refugee column. A road strewn with refugee
bodies was shown on Serbian television and foreign journalists were escorted
to the site to film the carnage.

NATO acknowledged Thursday that at least one of its planes had mistakenly hit
at least one civilian vehicle with fatal results.

``NATO deeply regrets the loss of life from this tragic accident,'' NATO
spokesman Jamie Shea said Thursday at the alliance's daily media briefing.

After Shea's introductory comments, Marani played a tape of what he said
``may be this incident.'' The F-16 pilot, who was not identified, described
an attack on a three-vehicle convoy he believed to be military vehicles
involved in burning villages.

Since then, NATO has faced mounting criticism of its refusal to explain
discrepancies between the mistaken strike it acknowledged and remains seen by
journalists.

NATO acknowledged hitting just one civilian vehicle, possibly a tractor on a
road north of the Kosovo town Djakovica. The Serbs showed several vehicles
hit on a road south of the town.

In Washington, Navy Capt. Steve Pietropaoli said Saturday that the pilot
heard on the tape ``is not thought to be responsible in any way for anything
other than the attack that he described on a military vehicle.''

However, Pietropaoli said he did not mean there was not an accidental attack
on civilians in the area. ``It appears to be that that may be the case,'' he
said.

NATO's military command is refusing to offer any further details of the
refugee attack pending results of an investigation.

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[CTRL] Microsoft et al. Woo NATO

[Das GOAT]

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 "'This spectacle leads me to think, 'What's NOT for sale anymore?'''
said Bill Hogan of the Center for Public Integrity, a Washington watchdog
group


Cos. Contribute to NATO Celebration

By JONATHAN D. SALANT
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- As Washington prepares for a celebration marking NATO's
50th anniversary that will attract world leaders, more than 40 corporations
are paying to join the party.

Thirteen companies -- Ford, Microsoft and the defense contractor United
Technologies among them -- have plunked down at least $250,000 for a seat on
the board of directors of the summit's host committee. Twenty-eight others,
including such notables as Kodak, Coca-Cola and IBM, have given at least
$25,000 to join the host committee.

The committee is scheduled to host the welcome reception for delegates Friday
at the National Air and Space Museum and the Washington Salutes NATO
gathering a day later. Already, corporate sponsors have joined diplomats,
members of Congress and federal officials at several pre-summit receptions,
including one last week at the Turkish embassy, where they chatted over
platters of meatballs, stuffed grape leaves and franks-in-jackets.

The committee has raised $6.5 million toward its goal of $8 million.

Some donations let companies show off their products. DaimlerChrysler is
donating Mercedes to help ferry the delegates around town; Motorola is
providing cellular telephones to be carried over Nextel Communications'
network, another donation; Microsoft is providing software.

The companies also will put their names before the estimated 2,500
journalists covering the event, which is drawing extra attention because of
the NATO airstrikes in Yugoslavia.

``It's a great opportunity for these businesses,'' host committee spokeswoman
Dana Vickers Shelley said. ``The heads of government and the heads of state
will be there, but included in their delegations will be foreign trade
ministers and other officials.''

Similar corporate-funded committees helped serve as hosts for the G-7
economic summit in Denver in 1997 and the Summit of the Americas in Miami in
1994. The cities holding the Democratic and Republican national conventions
create their own corporate-supported committees every four years.

``It leads me to think, 'What's not for sale anymore?''' said Bill Hogan,
director of investigative projects for the Center for Public Integrity, a
Washington watchdog group. ``One would be hard-pressed to think of any other
board of directors where the only qualification is paying your way on to
it.''

Standing near a buffet table at the Turkish reception, Boeing Senior Vice
President Christopher Hansen said his company simply was supporting NATO.

``We think it's important to reinforce the alliance,'' Hansen said. ``I
wouldn't want to make the justification on a business level.''

Other business leaders acknowledged the potential benefits of joining the
NATO host committee.

``It's a natural for us because Ameritech is the largest foreign investor in
European telecommunications,'' spokesman George Steinitzer said. ``Our
purpose here is to support our existing relationships in Europe.''

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[CTRL] Cognitive Dissonance: Mindcontrol vs Lewinsky

[Che]

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>From Nexus Magazine:

>Beta was the sexual servicing part of me. They
>also sometimes called the alter state 'Barbie'. It was supposed to be named
>after Klaus Barbie." Like Barbie doll?
>Survivors Cathy O'Brien and Brice Taylor were also subjected to Beta, or
>sex-slave, programming. They, like actress Marilyn Monroe, were called
>"presidential models", mind-controlled slaves for the use of high-level
>politicians.

Why does Clinton need blow jobs from "the portly pepperpot" (Lewinsky) if
there are NWO sex slaves to do his bidding?

Che




"Every fart has some kind of smell, and we cannot say that all Soviet farts
smell sweet." - Mao Tse-tung to the Supreme Soviet, 1956

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[CTRL] Berezovsky and Yeltsin

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Russian Tycoon Checks Into Hospital

By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
.c The Associated Press

MOSCOW (AP) -- Russian business tycoon Boris Berezovsky, who faces a money
laundering investigation, checked into a hospital with back pains immediately
upon his arrival from France, his lawyer said today.

Lawyer Genri Reznik called the Prosecutor General's office to say that
Berezovsky's ailment prevented him from meeting with prosecutors today for
questioning. Berezovsky was expected to remain hospitalized for up to one
week.

An investigator in charge of Berezovsky's case reacted with
``understanding,'' Reznik said.

Investigator Nikolai Volkov said he had no complaints but added the
prosecutor's office may again issue a warrant for Berezovsky's arrest if it
feels the tycoon is trying to avoid questioning, the Interfax news agency
reported.

Berezovsky has close relations with President Boris Yeltsin's family and has
been at the center of multiple political intrigues in recent years. He
returned from France on Sunday night aboard his private jet after Russian
prosecutors canceled a warrant for his arrest issued earlier this month.

Prosecutors agreed to drop the warrant after Berezovsky promised to come to
testify.

Prosecutors suspect Berezovsky of setting up a Swiss company, Andava, that
illegally transferred $250 million in hard currency earnings from Russia's
largest airline, Aeroflot. Berezovsky insists he is innocent.

``I never violated a law and I've returned to Moscow completely calm,'' he
told reporters Sunday.

Berezovsky has not been formally charged, but has vowed to fight any
allegations against him. He says the investigation is a political vendetta
carried out by rivals that include Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov.

Berezovsky's case comes amid a fierce battle between Yeltsin and Prosecutor
General Yuri Skuratov. The president wants the prosecutor dismissed, but only
parliament can fire him, and they have kept Skuratov on the job.

Skuratov has been investigating possible bribe-taking by Kremlin officials,
and allegations of wrongdoing by Berezovsky and another leading business
mogul, Alexander Smolensky.

Numerous media reports have said that Berezovsky has a stake in Aeroflot, the
largest Russian airline, but Berezovsky says he has no such links to the
company.

Yeltsin's son-in-law, Valery Okulov, leads the airline, and has fired scores
of top managers recently that were considered to be Berezovsky loyalists.

Some observers say that the warrant for Berezovsky's arrest was an attempt to
keep the mogul from returning to Russia and testifying against senior
government officials who allegedly had stakes in his business operations.
Berezovsky says little about his business empire, but media reports say it
includes cars, oil and media holdings along with Aeroflot.

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