[CTRL] Too Many Cops on the Information Superhighway?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.apbnews.com:80/newscenter/internetcrime/2000/04/07/netprivacy0407_01.html Too Many Cops on the Information Superhighway? Congress Weighs Privacy vs. Pursuit of Cybercrime April 7, 2000 By Amy Worden WASHINGTON (APBNews.com) -- Privacy rights advocates and legal experts Thursday told members of a congressional committee that the ever-widening scope of criminal investigations into computer crimes is jeopardizing the privacy rights of innocent people. Addressing members of a House judiciary subcommittee, the panelists warned that as law enforcement expands its efforts to capture computer hackers and others commit Internet crimes, untold amounts of data are being swept up in so-called cyber-raids. "As they vacuum in more information off the Internet, they manipulate it and store it, and, the fear is, abuse it," said Rep. Robert Barr, R-Ga. But a Justice Department official testified that investigators need the power to follow criminals through cyberspace, which has become a medium for con artists and data thieves along with legitimate businesses. Both sides agree that laws drawn up to deal with communication by letter and telephone need to be updated for the electronic age. 'Digital Storm' Barr, who plans to introduce legislation to better protect Internet privacy and regulate law enforcement's surveillance powers, said he has serious concerns about the growing ability of federal agencies to gather massive amounts of information from the Web. Among the more troubling initiatives, he said, are the Security and Exchange Commission's expanded data collection efforts and the FBI's proposed new information technology system. The FBI's $15 million system, dubbed "Digital Storm," would give analysts access to a network to conduct "data mining" on vast amounts of digital records to detect clues among millions of computer files now stored on unlinked FBI computers. The hearing was the first in what Barr said will be a series exploring ways to balance the needs of law enforcement to fight Internet crimes, while protecting Fourth Amendment rights against unlawful search and seizure. Laws becoming obsolete Barr said the existing privacy laws are fast becoming obsolete and fail to recognize the uniqueness of Internet communication, the vast expansion of the Web and the exponential growth of the number of users. Already, law enforcement has virtually unlimited power to seize computer-based records, some privacy advocates said. "Legally, it is easier for the government to snoop through a couple's private e-mails to one another than it is for the government to listen in on the very same conversations if they take place on the phone," said Gregory Nojeim, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union. "The distinction cannot be justified -- electronic conversations deserve the same level of protection as our telephone calls." Under existing privacy protection, law enforcement officials need only receive a court order for most computer searches, which are granted in nearly all cases, panelists said. In contrast, searches of an individual's home or business require a warrant. A haven for criminals? But Justice Department officials maintain that current statutes require the government be subjected to a higher burden of proof than is required under the Fourth Amendment. Still, Deputy Associate Attorney General Kevin DiGregory, who heads the Justice Department's cybercrime and intellectual property division, said broad authority to track targets online is vital to tracing the trail from perpetrator to victim in computer
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000408a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/07_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No neo-psychedelic theorists were immortalized to produce this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # RIP Terence McKenna: www.latimes.com/news/state/2407/t32827.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Law lord attacks 'oppressive' inquiry into Masons. Britain's most senior Masonic judge has launched a bitter attack on the Govt investigation into Freemasonry in the judiciary and the police force. Not a conspiracy? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/Legal/2000-04/masons060400.shtml # PM Tony Blair baby's sex, species still a mystery - Reptoid hybrid? http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565481969-614 # Bush appointee defends remarks - "porch monkey," "nigger" not racial slurs: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565503593-a7e @ The George Bush Body Bags: http://www.konformist.com/2000/bushkill.htm @ George W. Bush: Antichrist? http://www.konformist.com/2000/bushjr666.htm @ Christ Conspiracy: http://www.konformist.com/blasphemy/christ-review2.htm : Is your political/cultural/social conspiracy unfairly persecuted? Are you a major player in your conspiracy, or small-fry, or a puppet? Do aliens help /influence/control your conspiracy? Were you spawned by aliens? D'ya snarl? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Major Sun Storm: http://spacescience.com/headlines/y2000/ast07apr_2m.htm # Scientists Warn of Solar Storm - could knock out power, communications: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565502536-bae @ Tesla's BIG EYE: http://www.cseti.org/bearden/ferdelance/s42.htm @ Mechanisms For Evolution, Gaia, and Morphogenetic Field: http://www.cseti.org/bearden/gravitobiology/p45464748.htm @ A solid-state vacuum triode developed by the late Floyd "Sparky" Sweet put out 1,200,000 times more electrical power than was put into it, and showed anti-gravity properties. This technology for extracting free energy from the vacuum has been well understood by a high cabal for around a century, and is the same source that powers ET craft. The suppression/weaponization of this knowledge and its associated technologies, essential for civiliza- tion's enlightened advancement, is the root cause of all the secrecy and debunking of the UFO subject. Believe it: http://www.cseti.org/index.html : Do you exploit/control major fluxes of energy? Have you suppressed/monopo- lized the use of these energies? Are ordinary humans fit to use such forces? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Y2K Was DOA (And the Messiah Didn't Show Either.) Y2K fear mongering con- jobbers are already designing another huge scheme to get right back into your pockets. Wonder what it will be? After all, they made billions off Y2K, and you don't seriously think they'll give up the golden goose, do you? Don't be sheople: http://www.konformist.com/2000/y2k-doa.htm # Bombing, shooting anniversaries to draw networks. The fifth anniversary of the Murrah Federal Building bombing [Oklahoma City] and the dedication of a national memorial will receive plenty of network attention as part of a two-day western swing of major media vermin. The following day, the media spotlight will move to Denver for the first anniversary of the Columbine High School shootings. http://oklahoman.com/cgi-bin/getarticle?ID=471961 : What's your favorite conspiracy/atrocity/massacre? Was it photogenic? Has it been thoroughly exploited, enriching otherwise worthless personalities? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Gulf Vets Brain-Damaged. (AP) Some Gulf War veterans who complained of dizziness seem to have brain damage similar to that found in victims of the 1995 Tokyo subway nerve-gas attack. May indicate exposure to toxic nerve agents: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565503119-f2a # WOMEN AND PSYCHOSIS: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/19852.rhtml # HOMOSEXUAL, BISEXUAL MEN MORE LIKELY THAN HETEROSEXUAL MEN TO EXPERIENCE SUICIDE SYMPTOMS: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/19776.rhtml # MARITAL STATUS AND DEMENTIA: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/19839.rhtml # UK ANAESTHETISTS AND SUICIDE: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/19907.rhtml : Have you induced brain damage in many people lately? Is experimentation fun, tedious, necessary? Whose brains d'ya most like to scramble? Where?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # DIETARY SUPPLEMENT: THE RETURN OF "VITAMIN O." In 1998, Rose Creek Health Products ran ads for "Vitamin O." Whazzat? "Stabilized oxygen molecules in a solution of sodium chloride and distilled water." The FTC was notified; they charged the supplier with fraud and the company was shut down. This week
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- What the hell has that got to do with pro-lifers? Not all of us are Catholic, nor even Christian, Ken Kesey being one very famous example. But any Christian who supports abortion is self-obsessed, not self-professed. And God doesn't get fooled. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 8:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Truth is truth whether one is a self-professed Christian or not. I agree with her that pro-lifers are hypocrites. If Vatican for example knows what a "Culture of Life" is like, why doesn't it tell the world? FWP. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: (en) [a16-international-planning] Chomsky: Time to get on board]
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Original Message Subject: (en) [a16-international-planning] Chomsky: "Time to get on board" Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:25:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex LoCascio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ THERE'S A MOVEMENT OUT THERE, AND IT'S GATHERING STEAM. TIME TO GET ON BOARD. Talking 'Anarchy' With Chomsky Noam Chomsky is a longtime political activist, writer and professor of linguistics at MIT. His latest books are The Common Good and The New Military Humanism. He was interviewed for The Nation in late February by David Barsamian, director of Alternative Radio in Boulder, Colorado (www.alternativeradio.org). An edited version of that interview follows. DB: Let's talk about what occurred in Seattle in late November/early December around the WTO ministerial meeting. What meaning do you derive from what happened there, and what are the lessons to be drawn? Chomsky: I think it was a very significant event. It reflected a very broad opposition to the corporate-led globalization that's been imposed under primarily US leadership, but by the other major industrial countries, too. The participation was extremely broad and varied, including constituencies from the United States and internationally that have rarely interconnected in the past. That's the same kind of coalition of forces that blocked the Multilateral Agreement on Investment a year earlier and that strongly opposed other so-called agreements like NAFTA and the WTO. One lesson from Seattle is that education and organizing over a long term, carefully done, can really pay off. Another is that a substantial part of the domestic and global population, I would guess probably a majority of those thinking about the issues, ranges from being disturbed by contemporary developments to being strongly opposed to them, primarily to the sharp attack on democratic rights, on the freedom to make your own decisions and on the general subordination of all concerns to the specific interests, to the primacy of maximizing profit and domination by a very small sector of the world's population. Thomas Friedman, writing in the New York Times, called the demonstrators at Seattle "a Noah's ark of flat-earth advocates." From his point of view that's probably correct. From the point of view of slave owners, people opposed to slavery probably looked that way. For the 1 percent of the population that he's thinking about and representing, the people who are opposing this are flat-earthers. Why should anyone oppose the developments that we've been describing? Would it be fair to say that in the actions in the streets in Seattle, mixed in with the tear gas was also a whiff of democracy? I would take it to be. A functioning democracy is not supposed to happen in the streets. It's supposed to happen in decision-making. This is a reflection of the undermining of democracy and the popular reaction to it, not for the first time. There's been a long struggle, over centuries, in fact, to try to extend the realm of democratic freedoms, and it's won plenty of victories. A lot of them have been won exactly this way, not by gifts but by confrontation and struggle. If the popular reaction in this case takes a really organized, constructive form, it can undermine and reverse the highly undemocratic thrust of the international economic arrangements that are being foisted on the world. And they are very undemocratic. Naturally one thinks about the attack on domestic sovereignty, but most of the world is much worse. Over half the population of the world literally does not have even theoretical control over their own national economic policies. They're in receivership. Their economic policies are run by bureaucrats in Washington as a result of the so-called debt crisis, which is an ideological construction, not an economic one. That's over half the population of the world lacking even minimal sovereignty. Why do you say the debt crisis is an ideological construction? There is a debt, but who owes it and who's responsible for it is an ideological question, not an economic question. For example, there's a capitalist principle that nobody wants to pay any attention to, of course, which says that if I borrow money from you, it's my responsibility to pay it back, and if you're the lender, it's your risk if I don't pay it back. But nobody even conceives of that possibility. Suppose we were to follow that. Take, say, Indonesia, for example. Right now its economy is crushed by the fact that the debt is something like 140 percent of GDP. You trace that debt back, it turns out that the borrowers were something like 100 to 200 people around the military dictatorship that we supported, and their cronies. The lenders were
Re: [CTRL] Buchanan Addresses Teamsters on Eve of Anti-IMF/WTODemos
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Joshua, not voting is NOT an option for me. There are several factors driving my feelings here. First, even with all its flaws, the individual vote is the one most powerful weapon in the hands of the citizen. This is the ONLY country on this planet where revolution is built into the fundamental documents of the government. Refusing to vote means opting out of the possibility of change in the system. Second, with all ITS flaws, the Democratic Party is still thousands of times better than the Republicans. The Republican Party has been taken over by reactionary, racist yahoos in the hip pockets of the Religious Reich, and I want to kick the S.O.B.s out of the Congress, and I sure as hell don't want to see Bush II in the White House. Yes, Al Gore is a globalist...but I would MUCH rather have a Democratic globalist in the White House than have a Republican question mark installed as Imperator. Third, and this is the key, alongside voting AGAINST the Republicans, I want to see local communities build their own parallel institutions to provide goods and services outside the "free market" economy. THAT is where the deepest, most fundamental change will take place. Everyone knows that the present system is broken. The only way to change it is to REPLACE it, and the best way to replace it is to grow a NEW system alongside it that will become so much better, more efficient, and more responsive that it simply causes the old system to curl up and wither away. I know there are inherent contradictions in what I've just said, but what the hell...nobody ever accused me of consistency, and besides, how much consistency do you want when I just got out of bed? ;^) Bob - Original Message - From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Buchanan Addresses Teamsters on Eve of Anti-IMF/WTODemos snip PLEASE NOTE: I don't personally endorse all of Pat Buchanan's views or support his candidacy. But it seems to me that this item will be of interest to members of CTRL. Buchanan does point up the highly diverse (and rather confusing!) nature of the Fair Trade/Anti-WTO-IMF-World Bank movement. IMO, however, the movement needs a far more progressive spokesperson, one who is not already identified with the racist and jingoist right-wing elements of the Republican Party. Unfortunately, I don't think we've seen that person emerge yet; Ralph Nader is the nearest candidate, but I'm afraid he carries too much of his own baggage. (I'm still inclined to vote Green anyway in November, unless Bush really looks as if he's going to win, in which case I'll hold my nose and vote for Gore to keep the GOP out of the White House.) Bob Poor manipulated sucker. Don't you have any integrity at all? Why on earth would you vote for Gore when you understand what a shit he is? Don't vote. That is the only moral option if you don't have the guts to vote for a candidate who will dismantle the New World Order. For goodness sake give the rest of humanity a break. Voting for a globalist candidate in these times is not that dissimilar from the Germans who voted for Hitler. They knew what he was about, and voted for him anyway. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How it's done. American corporations have a long sordid history of treason.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Chinas Agents of Influence By J. Michael Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communist China is using the weight and strength of U.S. business including some of the nations largest defense contractors to promote its military and security goals. It used to be that in the China debate the giants of the U.S. business community argued strongly to separate national-security issues from trade. Now big business is doing what it always argued against by opposing national-security legislation at Beijings behest. In an elegant act of political jujitsu, Communist China now is using the weight and strength of U.S. business including some of the nations largest defense contractors to promote its own military and security goals. The shift, under way for years, has emerged during the last few months as big business and related interest groups weighed in against legislation designed to cement the long-standing U.S. security relationship with the Republic of China on Taiwan. Last October, when the House International Relations Committee voted a lopsided 32-6 for the Taiwan Security Enhancement Act, or TSEA, the business lobbies that had focused almost purely on Red China trade issues sprang into action. They pressed the House Republican leadership to pull the bill lest it be called for a full vote of the House and to postpone consideration until later. The GOP leadership caved. The American business community has crossed a Rubicon in pursuit of its deepening relationship with the Chinese government, wrote liberal Los Angeles Times columnist and respected China watcher Jim Mann. For the first time, American corporations have waged an intensive Washington lobbying campaign in seeming support of China on an issue that has no direct connection to trade, investment or other economic matters in which the U.S. business community has an obvious interest. The effort has succeeded for now, but its troubling ramifications may haunt the business community for years to come. Now, the TSEA is back. Early this year it sailed through the House and is awaiting Senate consideration as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong and other business groups launch another attack in support of Red China. Seasoned security experts are deeply concerned. Al Santoli, a senior adviser to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, California Republican, and one of the most informed China experts on Capitol Hill, points to a recent joint CIA-FBI report to Congress on Communist Chinese espionage that says, The Chinese government continues to seek influence in Congress through various means, including inviting congressional members to the PRC [Peoples Republic of China], lobbying ethnic Chinese voters and prominent U.S. citizens and engaging U.S. business interests to weigh in on issues of mutual concern. The intelligence report appears to refer to elder statesmen with decades-long business ties to Chinas Communist leaders and to corporate giants such as the Boeing Co., Chrysler Corp., General Motors and Motorola that have made an indelible mark on the China-policy debate. When American business lobbied Congress on China policy in the past, one could believe that corporate America was not doing Chinas bidding but rather was protecting its own interests, writes Mann. With the lobby campaign against reaffirming the U.S. security relationship with Taiwan, he argues, this distinction is not so clear anymore. Seduced by visions of selling consumer products to 1 billion Chinese, many business figures, including former national-security leaders who built personal relations with Communist officials, have moved from simply pushing policies that would increase trade with China to becoming, in effect, agents of influence for the Beijing regime. One of the most prominent is Boeing, the civilian jetliner manufacturer and Pentagon contractor. With potential 12-figure Chinese aircraft orders at stake, Boeings concern is understandable, as some of its critics admit. Beijing has exploited that concern to the hilt. If the company doesnt deliver political influence for the Communist government, Boeing chief international strategist Lawrence Clarkson told the Seattle Times in 1996, were toast. To ensure its 70 percent share of the Chinese airliner market, Boeing, in cooperation with other similarly motivated companies, pushed hard not only for Congress annually to renew most favored nation, or MFN, status for China, but to change the way the people of the United States view the corrupt one-party regime. In partnership with Chrysler, General Electric, Motorola and other blue-chip companies, Boeing launched a China Normalization Initiative in late 1995 and early 1996 to influence Congress from below by
Re: [CTRL] Pope Most Important Socialist in the World Says Gorbachev
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Don Huffman wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Dear Dale: But you do have a religion don't you? How did this existence come to be? Did it happen, did it evolve or what? Are you an atheist? In my experience on this earth I know why 99% of atheist are atheists. It is because there are commandments and they want to do as they please. Sincerely, Don Huffman Typical answer from someone who belives in virgin births. WRONG. Those are agnostics you describe. Athiests come to be because their brains aren't damaged by superstitious mumbo jumbo. They are not afraid to look life and death in the face without fawning to imaginary beings. They enjoy sex. Thank god I'm an Athiest. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The media say that the public is not interested in political finance reform.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- BUT!!! == = WARRANTY CARD ON PURCHASED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL[tm] Dear Special Interest, Congratulations on the purchase of your genuine Government Official[tm]. With regular maintenance your Government Official[tm] should provide you with a lifetime of sweetheart deals, insider information, preferential legislation and other fine services. Before you begin using your product, we would appreciate it if you would take the time to fill out this customer service card. This information will not be sold to any other party, and will be used solely to aid us in better fulfilling your future needs in political influence. 1. Which of our fine products did you buy? __ President __ Vice-President __ Senator __ Congressman __ Governor __ Cabinet Secretary - Commerce __ Cabinet Secretary - Other __ Other Elected Official (please specify) __ Other Appointed Official (please specify) 2. How did you hear about your Government Official[tm]? Please check all that apply. __ TV ad. __ Magazine / newspaper ad. __ Shared jail cell with. __ Former law partner of. __ Unindicted co-conspirator with. __ Arkansas crony of. __ Procured for. __ Related to. __ Recommended by lobbyist. __ Recommended by organized crime figure. __ Frequently mentioned in conspiracy theories. (On Internet.) __ Frequently mentioned in conspiracy theories. (Elsewhere.) __ Spoke at fundraiser at my temple. __ Solicited bribe from me. __ Attempted to seduce me. 3. How do you expect to use your Government Official[tm]? (Please check all that apply.) __ Obtain lucrative government contracts. __ Have my prejudices turned into law. __ Obtain diplomatic concessions. __ Obtain trade concessions. __ Have embargo lifted from own nation / ally. __ Have embargo imposed on enemy / rival nation / religious infidels. __ Obtain patronage job for self / spouse / mistress. __ Forestall military action against self / allies. __ Instigate military action against internal enemies / aggressors / targets for future conquest. __ Impede criminal / civil investigation of self / associates / spouse. __ Obtain pardon for self / associates / spouse. __ Inflict punitive legislation on class enemies / rivals / hated ethnic groups. __ Inflict punitive regulation on business competitors / environmental exploiters / capitalist pigs. 4. What factors influenced your purchase? (Please check all that apply.) __ Performance of currently owned model. __ Reputation. __ Price. __ Appearance. __ Party affiliation. __ Professed beliefs of Government Official[tm]. __ Actual beliefs of Government Official[tm]. __ Orders from boss / superior officer / foreign government. __ Blackmail. __ Celebrity endorsement. 5. Is this product intended as a replacement for a currently owned Government Official[tm]? __ If you answered "yes," please indicate your reason(s) for changing models. __ Excessive operating / maintenance costs. __ Needs have grown beyond capacity of current model. __ Defect in current model: __ Dead. __ Senile. __ Indicted. __ Convicted. __ Resigned in disgrace. __ Switched parties / beliefs. __ Outbribed by competing interest. Thank you for your valuable time. Always remember: in choosing a Government Official[tm] you have chosen the best politician that money can buy. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting, that if this case involved U.S. citizens, you'd be crying long and loud for the father's rights. Good call June! This is all about personal animosity towards Castro...these thugs in Miami, surrounding the house and threatening traffic blockades, don't give a whit about the kid...they want to "stick it to" Castro...that's all. And after seeing the way these folks act, very unruly, I can almost understand Castro's methods...he has no choice grin Perhaps. I've just noticed a preponderance of large, obviously professionally printed signs amongst the Miami protestors. One, a young man in his late 20s or early 30s was shown on TV yesterday saying "I've been here for 4 days and nights, and I'll stay here forever..."..blah, blah, blah... Makes me wonder who's footing the bill for the expensive signs, and enabling an able-bodied young man to do nothing else but loiter on public property (a crime in most municipalities, but seemingly not in Miami) during the work week... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Vaccine/Autism Connection: Testimony in U.S. House Committee on Government Reform
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Gentlemen: When you see vaccinations being carried out look at the many little boxes that are about. Inside each box is a wrapper. Simply take the wrapper that was around the vaccine bottle. At the public health department in St. Paul I simple asked for three different kinds of wrappers. These wrappers the public never sees. Instead something else may be offered. This protects the drug companies who have much more to lose than the doctors and nurses. When I saw injections being offered to the public at Cub foods for flu I asked the nurses what's in it? A nurse said, " there is latex in it," and I believe strongly that she was against the program but had to be a part of it or lose her job. I got the wrapper and got in line and read aloud the contraindications. No one left. Can one protect someone against himself? Then I left. But I got the wrapper in the hands of a man who lectures against injections and against the NWO in general around the country and the world for that matter. Bernard Rinland, every 3:00 P.M. on Friday until Good Friday 2001 I am going to hold in prayer your intention of protecting the public from the dangers of injections and especially autism. I don't have an autist child and I can't know how you feel. I can sympatize as much as I can. And doctor, Rinland can you give on this list the means by which a par- ent can refuse injections for his children? Thank you indeed, Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- June wrote: Makes me wonder who's footing the bill for the expensive signs, and enabling an able-bodied young man to do nothing else but loiter on public property (a crime in most municipalities, but seemingly not in Miami) during the work week... June On that note I'd like to know who's paying that lawyer Craig!!! It seems doubtful that Elian's father is independantly wealthy!!! This lawyer Craig is a Klintoon lackey!!! = Theodor S.Parada, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID 0x537C4815 "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the heart's of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknownest in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic, so that, it, can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague." Marcus Tullius Cicero 42 BC A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: "Theodor Parada, MD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Makes me wonder who's footing the bill for the expensive signs, and enabling an able-bodied young man to do nothing else but loiter on public property (a crime in most municipalities, but seemingly not in Miami) during the work week... On that note I'd like to know who's paying that lawyer Craig!!! It seems doubtful that Elian's father is independantly wealthy!!! This lawyer Craig is a Klintoon lackey!!! Perhaps. Perhaps not. Doesn't really matter. Senor Gonzalez has the right to legal representation, and perhaps Craig is looking to make a name for himself. But he's only one person. Who's footing the bill for the hundreds of people on permanent campout outside the Miami home where Elian is staying? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Trading with the Enemy
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Consider the irony of this travesty. While Bill Clinton and congressional "leaders" of both parties are pushing hard for China to be granted permanent WTO membership...the government of the United States is prosecuting Bill Gates and MicroSoft. Clinton has raised hypocrisy to the level of obscenity! MicroSoft has provided good jobs for thousands of people. MicroSoft is a shining success of the free enterprise system. Communist China operates on Slave Labor. So our national leaders throw flowers in the path of one of the greatest slave nations in the history of the world while at the same time prosecuting/persecuting one of America's great companies for being too successful. Things are getting very strange in the land of the free, and the home of the brave. Regards to All Nakano Oh bull-poo poo. Microsoft should never have been allowed to get so big in the first place. What you don't seem to understand is that monopoly, and concentration of wealth are in and of themselves destructive. America's great companies, as you call them, are not American and are the most destructive forces on the planet. All large corporations should ( and very possibly will ) be dismanteled in the near future. Private ownership of these awful institutions will end too. Better sell your stock buddy. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 4/7/00 7:31:05 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting, that if this case involved U.S. citizens, you'd be crying long and loud for the father's rights. Good call June! This is all about personal animosity towards Castro...these thugs in Miami, surrounding the house and threatening traffic blockades, don't give a whit about the kid...they want to "stick it to" Castro...that's all. And after seeing the way these folks act, very unruly, I can almost understand Castro's methods...he has no choice grin Peace, And send Elian HOME! Bill. I think we should send the Miami Cubans back where they came from. I'm sick of them and their fascist bullshit. These bastards need to learn that democracy and anti communism are not the same thing. They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws are against them. If they can't deal with that I would be willing to donate some money for rafts, and point them due south where they would get the wellcome they deserve back in the old country. Boycott Miami until they leave. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SNET: BARR: JUSTICE DEPT. CONTINUES OBSTRUCTION
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: BARR: JUSTICE DEPT. CONTINUES OBSTRUCTION Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:42 PM - SNETNEWS Mailing List BARR: JUSTICE DEPT. CONTINUES OBSTRUCTION WITH SHAM E-MAIL INVESTIGATION Press Release In a March 24 statement, U.S. Representative Bob Barr (GA-7) denounced efforts by the Department of Justice to obstruct probes of missing White House e-mails by opening a "sham investigation." Barr's remarks followed a hearing on the matter before the House Government Reform Committee, on which he serves. "Once again, the Department of Justice is hiding the truth from the American people by belatedly opening a sham investigation at the precise moment when outside investigators are starting to uncover the truth about misconduct in the Clinton White House. The Administration now promising an inquiry is the same Administration that obstructed several investigations by refusing to turn over potentially tens of thousands of e-mails uncovered in 1998, and threatening outside contractors with jail time if they did not cooperate," said Barr. "This investigation will not uncover a single new fact. Instead, it will be used as a shield to block successful work by Judicial Watch and the Government Reform Committee to uncover the truth about White House efforts to obstruct justice. It is truly saddening to again see our once-great Department of Justice being politically manipulated," Barr concluded. Barr, a former federal prosecutor and impeachment manager, serves on the House Judiciary and Government Reform Committees. Published in the Apr. 3, 2000 issue of The Washington Weekly Copyright 2000 The Washington Weekly. Now Free Access to All Stories at http://www.federal.com - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shop for Cars On-Line: http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pope Most Important Socialist in the World Says Gorbachev
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Control Control of sex through the temple prostitutes - or to control who you mated with through having to get it authorized through the "Gods". Remember that started before Christianity. - first time the parents started being taken out of the loop. * Atheists - interesting word. I am not sure who or what God might be BUT I aint it! The human body stays alive because of bacteria that helps us digest food, makes our vitamins and many other things. Plants have live bacteria that live with them and keep them alive. Animals just have more different types of bacteria - the potential of ingesting more nutrients. Do you eat raw living plants? Live bacteria? remember that pesticides and herbicides do not wash off since they are systematic (go to all cells of the plant) ...To say grace for the life that is giving you life, to not poison, hurt or disgrace that life. Trees compete and not all of their seeds will mature. How do Humans compete without becoming cannibalistic? I support the idea of the ten commandments! I support Christianity, Judaism, and many others - I also believe in pray, grace, thanking life. Since we are not the highest deity, can we live without bacteria Are we - A pure life force * energy force that is self sufficient? So do we get rid of prayer - what does it symbolize for people - including Atheists? Do you get rid of cars because some people mis use them? So are you going to get rid of prayer because it is mis used, or is it your definition of what is happening that is being misused? Are you programmed to dislike life? ThePiedPiper (c) 8April2000 Piper Creations (t) A Purest not a Puritan Creator(t) Nurev Ind Research wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Don Huffman wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Dear Dale: But you do have a religion don't you? How did this existence come to be? Did it happen, did it evolve or what? Are you an atheist? In my experience on this earth I know why 99% of atheist are atheists. It is because there are commandments and they want to do as they please. Sincerely, Don Huffman Typical answer from someone who belives in virgin births. WRONG. Those are agnostics you describe. Athiests come to be because their brains aren't damaged by superstitious mumbo jumbo. They are not afraid to look life and death in the face without fawning to imaginary beings. They enjoy sex. Thank god I'm an Athiest. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 4/8/00 9:35:12 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On that note I'd like to know who's paying that lawyer Craig!!! The Methodist Church/National Council of Churches... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New World Order Reality
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "Improve our productivity to German standards?" We...ISTR a study released last year which demonstrated pretty conclusively that the average German worker is significantly LESS productive than the average U.S. worker. Your German managers apparently intended that you should take more vacation days, more holidays, and more sick time than your American-employed colleagues... As for the German preference for Arabs over Jews, well, le plus ça change, le plus c'est la même chose. In Berlin today, one NEVER refers to "Jews," but rather to "Hebrews." The line of succession in German industry was maintained quite intact following WW2, thanks to the encouragement of the occupying powers, many of whose leaders and bureaucrats openly agreed with Herr Hitler about Jews, Lebensraum, and destiny... - Original Message - From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:22 AM Subject: [CTRL] New World Order Reality -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I used to work for a German company, based in Illuminati Bararia, which told us that if we did not improve our productivity to German standards, we would be replaced by the Chinese (communist slaves) who are willing to work for a much lower pay scale. We were told by the President of the Divison (big deal, hehe) that this was company policy. I noticed that they (Siemens) rarely employed people of Jewish ancestry, but they did employ many Arabs. I guess that is in keeping with the tradition. snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/7/00
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "All we like sheep are gone astray..." - Original Message - From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:44 AM Subject: [CTRL] OEN 4/7/00 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - The Religion Business Southern Baptist Pastors Sexually Use Sheep Baaa. Christian News Today has been reporting on the factual fact and truth that Southern Baptists Leadership in America 1) Sexually use their sheep in their churches snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pope Most Important Socialist in the World Says Gorbachev
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- They are not afraid to look life and death in the face without fawning to imaginary beings. Does this not, in turn, REQUIRE the greatest amount of faith? There's not much difference between 'atheist' and 'a theist', especially when applying the rules of gematria or numerology (spaces don't count -- except when they reflect some hesitation, and then it's still time to move beyond). AER AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Isle Be Seeing You
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain Britain: Racist attacks follow in wake of anti-immigrant press campaign By Simon Wheelan 8 April 2000 Back to screen version A series of vicious racist assaults has occurred in Britain over the last months. In the most infamous incident, three racists attacked Chris Cotter, the white boyfriend of top black athlete Ashia Hansen, outside his girlfriend's home. Cotter was left with three stab wounds to his back and a serious slash wound across his forehead after the three attempted to scalp him. Subsequently, three prominent black British athletes have received anonymous death threats. Just one week earlier, in an incident that received almost no attention in the press, another mixed-race couple were attacked in Liverpool. Sunil Modi and Claire Nichols were forced off the road by a gang as they drove home and then violently set upon. Modi was dragged out of the car, kicked and beaten repeatedly about the head. His assailants attempted to pull him over to a metal fence, shouting "Spike him, spike himput the Paki's head on a spike. The press roundly condemned the attack on Cotter and denounced the racist perpetrators. But their coverage of this case was at odds with the tirade of racial abuse that has been directed against asylum-seekers by the British media in the same period. Journalists claimed to be perplexed at the wanton violence directed against Cotter, making no connection between the growth of racist assaults and the welter of anti-immigrant propaganda carried in their own newspapers. Sections of the press have embarked upon a hate campaign particularly directed against Eastern European refugees, admonishing them as gypsy scroungers . They seized on the case of a female Romanian refugee who was arrested and heavily fined for begging in London with her child. The woman was chastised by the judge and told to inform other gypsies that they would be imprisoned if they continued to behave in what he described as a deplorable fashion. Under Labour's new immigration rules, asylum-seekers receive just 70 percent of the usual welfare benefit rates available to British citizens, which are already set at subsistence level. The bulk of benefit payments made to refugees now consists of vouchers, exchangeable only at a restricted number of shops, and a small amount of pocket money. Those awaiting a decision on their asylum application are also forbidden to work. So it is hardly surprising that some refugees are forced to make ends meet by begging, or by taking on ultra-low-wage black market jobs. Neither the mass media nor from any mainstream politician has condemned the fact that asylum-seekers and their families have been deliberately placed in such dire straits. Rather, the victims of inhumane and degrading immigration laws were condemned for upsetting British sensibilities. Articles in the tabloids railed against gypsies, accusing them of ill-treating their children by taking them to beg on the streets. Labour's immigration minister Barbara Roche described the practice of begging with children as vile. The Sun newspaper, owned by Rupert Murdoch, accused Romanian refugees of stealing and scrounging from British taxpayers, to construct palaces back in Eastern Europe. Launching its "Britain has had enough" campaign, the paper warned ominously, This is not an extreme country. Just the opposite, in fact. But even the fairest-minded nation has it breaking point. And Britain has reached it. Paul Johnson, writing in the Daily Mail, portrayed the entire post-war history of immigration to the UK as a cavalcade of beggar criminals. The tabloid press were emboldened in their crude racism by the competition between Labour and the Conservative Party over which was the toughest on immigration. Conservative Home Affairs spokesperson Ann Widdecombe unveiled Tory election manifesto proposals that all asylum-seekers should be kept in custody until their cases are resolved. In response, the Home Office announced new powers to fast-track applications of those asylum-seekers convicted of aggressive begging, especially if they exploit their children while they do so. The government justified the new measures on the grounds that focus group research showed that the public believes asylum-seekers are the reason for the decline of public services! Fast-tracking is a crude euphemism for the abrogation of basic civil liberties and the rapid expulsion of asylum-seekers. This is proven by government boasts that refugees are now being expelled at a faster rate than new applications for asylum are being receivedreducing the absolute numbers of asylum-seekers in the UK. Blair's talk of creating an inclusive society does not contradict the government's draconian stance on immigration. Just as black and Asian Britons are supposedly included in the New Britain, there are those
Re: [CTRL] Pope Most Important Socialist in the World Says Gorbachev
At 10:11 AM 4/8/00 , you wrote: Typical answer from someone who belives in virgin births. WRONG. Those are agnostics you describe. Athiests come to be because their brains aren't damaged by superstitious mumbo jumbo. They are not afraid to look life and death in the face without fawning to imaginary beings. They enjoy sex. Thank god I'm an Athiest. Joshua2 An Atheist thanking God for being an Atheist? If you are going to be something, Joshua 2, you should at least learn how to spell it correctly: It's Atheist, not Athiest. But thanks for the humor anyway. *[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot Resource Center: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6627/ Online Patriot Internet Radio: http://www.geocities.com/aresister_2000/ **Live Free or Die!*
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From the issue dated March 31, 2000
http://chronicle.com/free/v46/i30/30a00101.htm
David Noble's Battle to Defend the 'Sacred Space' of the Classroom
Jeremiads against online education attract followers; critics say he's an ill-
informed Luddite
By JEFFREY R. YOUNG
David F. Noble says distance education is fool's gold, and he's eager to point
out who the fools are. In speeches, essays, and countless sound bites, the
professor argues that the primary motive behind the craze for online education
is profit rather than pedagogy, and that the glimmer of dot-com riches is
tempting some administrators to put the core values of their institutions at
risk.
"It's been leading to a dangerous relaxation of sound financial-management
practices and legal safeguards of the public interest, a bending of the rules
of established procedure, and quite possibly even a breaking of the law," he
said in a speech last month at a conference on the future of higher education.
Mr. Noble's speech stood in marked contrast to others at the conference, held
at the University of California at Riverside. He offered not a theoretical
argument, but a juicy description of what he sees as shady dealings between the
extension program at University of California at Los Angeles and a company
called OnlineLearning.net. (The university and the company deny his
allegations.)
Given Mr. Noble's remarks, you half-expect him to be wearing an armband of
protest on the sleeve of his tweed jacket.
Mr. Noble is not about to sit by and let distance education happen without a
fight. The history professor at York University, in Toronto, is on a crusade
that mixes scholarship, journalism, activism, and stubborn persistence. In his
view, distance education is the latest episode in a troubling saga of the
corporatization of American higher education.
To some faculty members, he is something of a cult hero for passionately
speaking out to protect the rights of professors in cyberspace. Some say his
extreme views make it easier for those with more-moderate concerns about
distance education to voice their opinions. But his critics say Mr. Noble's
attacks are so narrow-minded and emotional that they are counterproductive. And
some say he has an abrasive personal style that makes it difficult to engage
him in debate.
Any way you cut it, Mr. Noble is colorful, provocative, and uncompromising. He
has frequently investigated and criticized the institutions that have employed
him. He says he is often discriminated against for being critical of
technology. He says he is searching for the truth.
During his 30 years of prolific scholarship on the history of technology, Mr.
Noble has repeatedly challenged the assumption that technological advances
inevitably result in progress. And he has repeatedly asked why criticizing
technology is so often taboo.
To Mr. Noble, being called a Luddite is no insult. In fact, "the Luddites were
certainly people to be emulated," he says, referring to the group of British
weavers who fought against the automation of their profession in the 1800's,
sometimes with violence. "They were not at all the mindless, hapless victims
that people portray them as. They were essentially demanding a policy on
technology."
A photograph of Mr. Noble taken in the 1980's shows him holding one of the
sledgehammers used by the Luddites to smash looms. But he has no plans to
destroy computers, he says. "It's more important to smash the mental machinery
than the physical machinery."
"My scholarly work has really been focused on trying to demystify technology in
our culture," he says.
His strategy is to treat any high-tech tool like a political document that
needs decoding. "Technology is itself political," he argues. "You should look
at it and say, Who's sponsoring it? What are their interests? Who do they
represent? What are they trying to do?"
For instance, in Forces of Production: A Social History of Industrial
Automation (Knopf, 1984), he shows how the values and interests of engineers
and managers -- rather than simple efforts to improve efficiency -- have
influenced factory design. In his most recent book, The Religion of Technology:
The Divinity of Man and the Spirit of Invention (Knopf, 1997), he traces the
many ways in which technology and faith are intertwined in Western culture.
In the latter book, Mr. Noble argues that religious motivations and a desire
for transcendence have been the driving forces behind such large-scale
technological quests as the space program, artificial intelligence, and genetic
engineering. A "politics of perfection," rather than a desire to meet social
needs, he writes, has motivated technical innovation. "The expectation of
ultimate salvation through technology, whatever the immediate human and social
costs, has become the unspoken orthodoxy."
Mr. Noble's books and articles are widely cited by historians of science, says
Thomas P.
[CTRL] rapist's legacy
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Appropriate Legacy Bill Clinton will be known as the president between two Bushes, with his pants down. -- James L. Williamson Brownwood, Texas SOURCE: The Washington Times National Weekly Edition April 3 - 9, 2000 Letters to the Editor, page 39 Bard "Everyone carries a part of society on his shoulders; no one is relieved of his share of responsibility by others. And no one can find a safe way out for himself if society is sweeping towards destruction. Therefore, everyone, in his own interests, must thrust himself vigorously into the intellectual battle. None can stand aside with unconcern; the interests of everyone hang on the result. Whether he chooses or not, every man is drawn into the great historical struggle, the decisive battle into which our epoch has plunged us." --Ludwig von Mises A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me someone told me Hanoi Jane has been married three times. Isn't this being a hyprocrite of the Vows of Marriage? Bard "There is more beauty in truth, even if it is a dreadful beauty. The storytellers at the city gate twist life so that it looks sweet to the lazy and the stupid and the weak, and this only strengthens their infirmities and teaches nothing, cures nothing, nor does it let the heart soar." John Steinbeck Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Don Huffman wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Dear FWP: Telling what the Culture of Life is is what the Catholic Church has been doing for 2000 years. CULTURE is a scientific word. When the Catholic Church stops speaking as loosely about this as a drunk in a beer parlour I will believe you. So tell us what "Bamberton", the model city built anew on Vancouver Island would be like if it were designed according to the principles of a "Culture of Life". (Bamberton and surroundings). Haven't other churches of God been doing the same? Are you generalizing when you say all pro-lifers are hypocrites? Find one who is eager to articulate and then build that Culture of Life and I will retract. Until then it applies to all I have encountered. Should be a snap for people who have been in communion with Those who created billions of stars x billions of galaxies for 2000 years to tell the people of BC how to build one small city and surroundings. FWP. --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2646/0/_/505504/_/955158908/ The government only has as much power as it's citizens give it. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SECRET/ NOFORN
http://www.AmericasNewspaper.com/middle.shtml Is this a "quid pro quo" for China's donation to the 1996 clinton-Gore re-election campaign? I know there is a God and I know he hates injustice. I see the storm coming and I know His hand is in it. But if there is a place and a part for me, I believe that I am ready. -- Patrick J. Buchanan Reform Party News http://www.reformparty.org Title: Washington Times Weekly Edition Report: Li Ka-shing planned control of CanalBy Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMEShinese businessman Li Ka-shing was planning to take over operation of the Panama Canal before the pullout last year of the United States, according to a declassified Pentagon intelligence report.The Army intelligence report contradicts statements by President Clinton and Panamanian government officials that the Atlantic and Pacific port facilities leased in Panama by Mr. Li and his Hong Kong-based Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. will have no role in Panama Canal operations.The Army report, from April 22, 1998, contains an article with the headline, "Panama: China Awaits U.S. Departure" and is based on a Defense Intelligence Agency intelligence information report."According to a DIA Intelligence Information Report, Li Ka-shing, the owner of Hutchison Whampoa Lt. (HW) and Cheung Kong International Holdings Ltd. (CK) is planning to take control of Panama Canal operations when the U.S. transfers it to Panama in December 99," the report from the office of the deputy chief of staff for intelligence states."Li is directly connected to Beijing and is willing to use his business influence to further the aims of Chinese government," the report states. It is labeled "SECRET/ NOFORN" -- the latter term meaning no access to the intelligence by foreign nationals.The released portions of the report provided no further details on how Mr. Li planned to take over the strategic waterway.Mr. Li's multinational company leased two ports near entrances at each end of the Panama Canal in 1997 for 25 years. They are run by the Panama Ports Co., a Hutchison Whampoa subsidiary.A spokesman for Hutchison Whampoa could not be reached for comment in Hong Kong.However, the director of its Panama subsidiary, Hutchison Port Holdings, has dismissed fears of Chinese control."We're a public company operating a container port facility," John Merideth, group managing director of Hutchison Port Holdings, told the Associated Press in December. "The most extraordinary comments are being made. It's a bit time consuming, but it doesn't affect us."According to Army intelligence, Mr. Li, Hutchison's chairman, plans to position his son, Victor Li, to take over certain operations of the two companies, "such as HW's Hong Kong International Terminals."The report said the Hutchison's corporate revenue was declining because of a drop in raw materials from within China, a decline in freight rates and the Asian financial crisis."Consequently, China is looking to expand into new markets," the report said.An Army analyst commented in the report that "Li's interest in the canal is not only strategic, but also a means for outside financial opportunities for the Chinese government.""China, the canal's third-largest user, consequently has a significant amount of influence," the report said. "If China were to assume control of canal operations, it would have to abide by the neutrality requirements of the Torrijos-Carter treaties." The 1977 treaty gave Panama sovereignty over what was the U.S. Canal Zone.The Army report is the second declassified in recent weeks under Freedom of Information Act requests by Judicial Watch, a conservative public-interest law firm."It's one more piece of evidence that the Clinton administration was lying about communist Chinese intentions in Panama," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said.In January, a three-page report produced by the U.S. Southern Command stated that Hutchison Whampoa "could provide a conduit for illegal shipments of technology or prohibited items from the West to the [People's Republic of China], or facilitate the movement of arms and other prohibited items into the Americas."The Army report is likely to increase the confusion surrounding recent statements by President Clinton about China's role in the Panama Canal.In November, Mr. Clinton told reporters, "I think the Chinese will, in fact, be bending over backwards to make sure that they run it in a competent and able and fair manner."He added that he "would be very surprised if any adverse consequences flowed from the Chinese running the canal."The following week Mr. Clinton said he "may have misstated this" and that "the canal itself will be operated and controlled entirely by the government of Panama." From the Current Issue: April 10-16, 2000 U.S. ambassador hosted firms being probed The U.S. ambassador in Beijing recently
[CTRL] global gag rule
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Clinton urges funds for family planning abroad Copyright © 2000 Nando Media Copyright © 2000 APonline For more about Africa, visit Africa News Online. By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press WASHINGTON (April 7, 2000 7:29 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - With Congress debating a new budget, President Clinton used Friday's observance of World Health Day to push lawmakers for increased U.S. financing of family planning work abroad - and to stop restricting how the money is used. In his fiscal 2001 budget plan, Clinton proposed a $169 million increase in USAID's international family planning aid package and $25 million to support the United Nations Population Fund, which operates in 150 nations. Clinton said 600,000 women die each year from complications related to pregnancy and childbirth. He wants Congress to raise family planning assistance to 1995 levels, and he wants the money to come without a restriction dubbed the "global gag rule." Using U.S. funds to perform abortions abroad has been prohibited since 1973. Last year, Congress imposed a restriction on giving money to non-governmental organizations that use money from other sources to advocate for or provide abortions. "Those congressionally sponsored restrictions impose a destructive double standard," Clinton said. "When would we ever accept rules telling Americans at home not even to discuss women's health and women's choices? "And how, in the name of democracy and freedom, can we impose those rules on others which would be illegal here in the United States?" Clinton was joined at the World Health Day event by Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Dr. Enyantu Ifenne, a pediatrician from Nigeria, who said it is commonplace in her country for 12-year-old girls to marry and begin families. She politely said the "gag rule" was "very un-American." Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., was more blunt. "Gag rules are enough to make you gag," she said. Rep. Jim Greenwood, R-Pa., who led a fight in the House against the rule, urged citizens to call their congressmen and say: "I wouldn't let you gag me, and I will not let you gag anyone anywhere around the world." Not all his Republican colleagues agree. Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J., released a statement after the event, saying the president is criticizing the very legislation he signed. "If the president were really committed to family planning - as opposed to abortion - he would enthusiastically embrace the pro-life policy, which is now, with his signature, the law of the land," Smith said. "This policy establishes a bright line of demarcation between those groups that support genuine family planning and those that refuse to divest themselves from the grisly business of abortion." On Thursday, Reps. Nita Lowey, D-N.Y.; Christopher Shays, R-Conn.; Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; and James Greenwood, R-Pa., introduced a bill to repeal the gag rule provision. "It's just a misunderstanding," said Majeed Khan, a visiting professor at the University of Wisconsin who attended the event in the East Room of the White House. "Where there's good family planning, the abortion rate declines." http://www.nandotimes.com/healthscience/story/0,1080,500190246-500256378-501312506-0,00.html Bard Sir Rudyard's reasoned rhymes still rule in America. If Kipling were now in the Colonies, he might add these verses to his classic: When Billy was of draft age, Southeast Asia was the cause; Tho' Uncle called, he ducked it without a moment's pause. Now 'e's safe within the White House, the artful dodger yet, Impeachment proof an' O so brave, when Kosovo's the bet. For it's Tommy this an' Tommy that, but when Billy needs a boost, 'E throws Tommy to the lions, to keep the chickens off the roost. An' it's Tommy this an' Tommy that an' any war's OK As long as it's not Billy boy they're chuckin' in harm's way. --- From the heart of a vet, J.D. Wetterling A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe
[CTRL] the three stooges.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Click now, repent later By FRANCINE KIEFER, The Christian Science Monitor (April 7, 2000 12:02 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - In 1993, Linda Tripp sent out a blistering message, calling senior members of her White House office "the three stooges." It's hard to imagine that happening in today's White House, where "no trail, no trouble" is the unspoken mantra. Such caution prevails that one staffer used erasable magic markers during a strategy session, rather than risk a subpoena. White House staff chose their words carefully long before the advent of e-mail. And the Watergate tapes proved that conversations don't have to be written to be dangerous. But the point-and-click missives have added a new dimension to White House communication - one with implications ranging from front-page embarrassments to, perhaps, Al Gore's political future. As Congress and the Justice Department investigate the White House for a potential cover-up of perhaps 250,000 missing e-mails, many of which could have escaped subpoena dragnets, the probes reveal a unique, cautious culture of messaging at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. People outside the wrought-iron gates of the presidential compound might view e-mail as a private, informal way to talk. But the knowledge that everything they write could be scrutinized by both the media and investigators, has inspired an attitude of apprehension about e-mailing, especially among the president's legal advisers. "E-mails and anything else written was not only discouraged, people were living in fear that the wrong e-mail would lead to a prosecution, or at least several hundred thousands dollars of legal fees," says former counsel Lanny Davis. In fact, whenever a White House staffer clicks "send," a message reminds them that a copy of their missive is being sent to records management. When it comes to saving e-mails, the White House is held to a higher standard than the private sector, and even Congress. Companies that have a policy of saving e-mails usually do so only for three to six months, according to records-management consultants. Many companies consider them the same as phone calls, and don't archive them unless they are equal in weight to a written communication. But the White House is different. It saves its records for posterity. After President Clinton vacates his office next January, at least 30 million stored e-mails will be deposited with the National Archives, http://www.nara.gov/ an unfathomable mountain of data ranging from such queries as "How about lunch?" to speech drafts, to perhaps more juicy communications. In the federal government, "retention of records tends to be driven by ... the need to inform a free society and the need to retain information of historical consequence. For most businesses, neither of those issues are on the radar screen," says Patrick Cunningham of Hewitt Associates, a management consulting firm in Lincolnshire, Ill. "Do we need to see Monica Lewinsky's e-mail messages to various Executive Office persona? Certainly, because they are material to an historical event - the impeachment of the president." On Capitol Hill, e-mail archiving is at the discretion of the lawmaker. For instance, the office of Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., who last week grilled White House counsel about the missing e-mails, stores its electronic messages for a mere week, then overrides them with new work. The White House, on the other hand, installed an e-mail archiving system in July 1994, after a court ruled that electronic records must be preserved in the same way as federal records. It was such a novel concept at the time that it had to be custom-built. Another former administration official says he used to hold back on sending something electronically because e-mails can be so easily copied. He cited an example of a White House directive electronically leaked to the media in 1998. It said certain words related to the first lady's pet millennium project were off-limits to speechwriters, causing an employee to jokingly wonder whether staffers could even say "21st century" in conversation. But he rejects the assumption that history is being lost in this anti-documenting atmosphere. According to the former official, a great deal still gets zapped around - including budget-related items, speech drafts, and the president's schedule. And because e-mails, even in the White House, so often mimic phone calls, they add a new dimension to White House archival history. "They're a treasure trove." But they're also a challenge for the White House tech team. For example, until last month, about a third of the e-mail accounts in the vice president's office weren't being captured by the archiving system, White House counsel Beth Nolan testified. That includes the account of the technologically savvy vice president. Unlike the president and first lady, who don't even have
[CTRL] Military Helicopter
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Military helicopter hovering outside has my position. Cool. I have it's picture. It is unusual but not a UFO. :-) Steve Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] U.S. Says Lockheed Broke Rules on Chinese Rockets
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Can we say "Biased, socialist, Chinese intelligence-controlled US press. Or equivanently, Rockefeller-controlled US press. Steve On 7 Apr 00, at 3:50, Reuters wrote: U.S. conservatives hostile to the Chinese government have cited the allegations as evidence that technical cooperation with China is a danger to U.S. national security. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] U.S. Says Lockheed Broke Rules on Chinese Rockets
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On 7 Apr 00, at 3:50, Reuters wrote: U.S. conservatives hostile to the Chinese government have cited the allegations as evidence that technical cooperation with China is a danger to U.S. national security. "U.S. consevatives hostile to the Chinese government" ? I think this reporter used to be from China. Or maybe he just works for Rockybuck$. I had better be quiet, or I may be quieted. We shall see, David R and family... (*Question: Have some of the Rockefellers reformed? Are the younger descendents (? sounds hellish) equally evil or are they secretly on our side? (And what is 'our' and who are 'we',) ) Steve Steve the Dangerous Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Elian = Eli ('Eli'zabeth) and (Ju'an')
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- If Elian is returned to Cuba he will have had three "Mothers" in the space of five months; the latter having no blood relationship. Federal Marshals will approach the House in the Daytime. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34577-2000Apr7.html Bard "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Joshua2 wrote: They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws are against them. Joshua2 Thank the lord that we live in a Republic which guarantees minority rights and not democratic mob rule. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OEN 4/7/00
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- ROTFLMAOPDML!!! Ain't it the truth?!?! --- "Robert F. Tatman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "All we like sheep are gone astray..." snip - The Religion Business Southern Baptist Pastors Sexually Use Sheep Baaa. Christian News Today has been reporting on the factual fact and truth that Southern Baptists Leadership in America 1) Sexually use their sheep in their churches snip __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. a Rogue State? Fits the profile.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Here's to a world in denial http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/Commentary/2407/COSALUT.html RICK SALUTIN Friday, April 7, 2000 The debate on whether Canada should join the new U.S. National Missile Defence weapons system is off to a dumb-ass start. Canadian General George H. MacDonald of NORAD echoed the American justification about protection against "rogue nations" with missiles. Canadian Alliance MP Art Hanger echoed him, saying "the proposed NMD system . . . would protect North America from attacks by rogue states." The rogue states he names are North Korea, Iran and Iraq. I think he missed one: the United States. I don't say this to be provocative or controversial. I hate that provocative-controversial stuff. I hate rant journalism. Just listen to the evidence. Last year, the United States used NATO rather than the United Nations to back its war against Yugoslavia, though the UN Charter says only the UN can take international military action. The United States also refuses to pay its huge debt to the UN. It failed to ratify the new International Criminal Court alongside states such as Libya, Iraq, China and Israel. Same thing with the anti-land-mines convention. It didn't ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. It did sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, but never implemented its provisions. The NMD itself is a kind of rogue action since, as even the United States admits, recent disarmament treaties will have to be suspended or cancelled if it goes ahead. It's also failed to ratify a host of other conventions, such as the Law of the Sea and women's rights. Along with Somalia, it hasn't signed the Convention on the Rights of the Child because it doesn't like the provision keeping kids out of the military. Sometimes, pundits say, Oh this is just the United States following its isolationist traditions. But it isn't. Isolationists don't send planes out to bomb all over the world. As in 1986, when the United States bombed Libya over an unproved claim that Libyans had been responsible for a bomb set in a Berlin nightclub that killed a U.S. soldier. Or last year's bombing of a Sudanese factory over an unproved claim that it made explosives used against U.S. embassies. You can exempt the bombing of Iraq in the Persian Gulf war if you want, since it had a UN cover; but not subsequent attacks, for which the United States says it no longer needs UN resolutions. The United States has backed coups in Iran, Guatemala, Chile and Brazil, among others. It was behind assassinations or attempts against leaders of China, the Dominican Republic, the Congo and Fidel Castro -- "five or six" of which the head of the CIA acknowledged, though far more are known. All this can be documented, mostly from government sources. It defied World Court rulings on its war against Nicaragua and has invaded the Dominican Republic, Grenada, Panama and Haiti. The United States has also used chemical weapons such as Agent Orange in Vietnam and radioactive shell casings in the gulf war. For that matter, it tested nuclear weapon fallout on its own military and civilians, without telling them, in the 1950s. It is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons in war. Not only does it act like a rogue state; it has the psyche to back it up. I'm thinking of the hysteria over the Cuban child, Elian Rodriguez. The United States assumes that,
[CTRL] SNET: John Birch Society And The Belmont Brotherhood
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: John Birch Society And The Belmont Brotherhood Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 9:49 PM - SNETNEWS Mailing List THE BELMONT BROTHERHOOD "Does the Brotherhood exist?" "That Winston, you will never know. If we choose to set you free when we have finished with you, and if you live to be ninety years old, still you will never learn whether the answer to that question is yes or no. As long as you live, it will be a riddle in your mind." From 1984 by George Orwell Ladies and Gentlemen: During the past year many of you have received sensitive material regarding criminal abuses within the high command of The John Birch Society from the following sources: 1. Harry Brandler -- former Illinois Coordinator 2. Tim Weir -- former JBS Staff Fund Raiser and St. Louis Coordinator 3. Donald Prang -- former JBS Comptroller 4. Rex Westerfield -- former JBS Public Relations Director 5. Bruce Taylor -- former JBS Director of Advertising and Sales 6. Dick Weiss -- former South Dakota Coordinator 7. Tim Heinan -- former JBS Ad Hoc Committee Coordinator 8. Nicholas J. Bove, Jr. -- former Research Assistant to Robert Welch 9. John Deckert -- former Coordinator for Central and Southern New Jersey 10. Ted Henrickson -- former Coordinator for Southern New Jersey and Delaware (This is only a partial listing) While our staff has been engaged in research for our forthcoming book (which we shall publish in the very near future), it has discovered some surprising coincidences in the backgrounds of certain members of the Council of the John Birch Society (both past and present) -- coincidences we believe demand the attention of all students of the Master Conspiracy of which we have come to believe THE BELMONT BROTHERHOOD is an integral part. JBS Council Members - Past and present The following biographical sketches were taken, verbatim, from a book, THE KANGAROO COURT VERSUS THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY. It was published in 1963 by A.J. MacDonald and Associates and, we should add, written in defense of the John Birch Society. We have reproduced nearby the full title page of this particular volume. Observe - this copy we are using was once available from a St. Paul American Opinion Bookstore. When you finish reading these biographies, which include two thirds of Charter Members present in Indianapolis on Dec. 8 9, 1958, we believe you will begin to understand why American Opinion Bookstores no longer sells it. KANGAROO COURT VERSUS THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY By A.J. MacDonald 1963 PRICE $1.25 *** Published by A.J. MACDONALD ASSOCIATES POLITICAL RESEARCH BUREAU 3025 W. 7th Street Los Angeles, California 90005 CHAPTER 10 On the following pages are listed a few of those important people who are backing and supporting the Society as members of the John Birch Council. 1. William J. Grede In the February 1977 John Birch Society Bulletin, Welch describes Grede as a "truly great American (p. 27)." This "great American" was a "director" of none other than the 7th Federal Reserve Bank - an important arm of the infamous Federal Reserve System. As Birch authority Gary Allen states in his Rockefeller File: "For fifty years the Federal Reserve - CFR - Rockefeller Insider crowd (observe how Allen uses all of these terms together and interchangeably) has advocated and carried out policies aimed at increasing the power of their satellite, the Soviet Union (p. 108)." That being the case, what was a founding Council Member of the JBS - a man who is now Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Council - doing as a member of the crowd Allen says increases the power of the Soviet Union? Coincidence?? No more a coincidence than Grede's membership in the quasi-Masonic National Council of the YMCA - which we shall deal with later. Incidentally, Grede is listed by Helen Peters in her treatise, Is the John Birch Society Subversive? as Chairman of National Bible Week put up by the Laymen's National Committee of the National Council of Churches. This we suppose is the "Conservative" Arm of the National Council of Churches. 2. Robert D. Love Although Bob Love is no longer on the Council, he was still a member for a number of years and as such is entitled to some examination. Bob Love is listed here as "a Thirty-second Degree KCCH Mason, a member of the Median Shrine [emphasis ours]." What was a Thirty-second Degree Mason doing on the Council of the John Birch Society? Indeed, he was not the only highly placed Mason on the Council. What is the significance of this? In order to understand how significant it could be, we must consult Masonic authority Albert Pike -- whom Welch himself has identified on numerous
Re: [CTRL] IUFO: Military Helicopter
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Military helicopter hovering outside has my position. Cool. I have it's picture. It is unusual but not a UFO. :-) Steve Steve Wingate Steve - Cool. Here in Canada, they used to do the tick of lowering a guy down on a rope just to make sure we got the message. It sound like they are using you as a picture transmitter. Can you email us a jpg of the picture, and the data, and we'll make sure to publish it on line. Let's flood the bastards! Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC earthradioTV.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Solutions: Adopt a pig.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- 4/8/00 There is no good reason that the rich should enjoy their lives at the expense of everyone else. Form a group. Adopt a pig in your neighborhood. And commence to make his/her life miserable until they repent, commit suicide, or go insane. Joshua2 == USA: April 7, 2000 LOS ANGELES - The chairman of Occidental Petroleum is staging his own protest against the human rights groups who picket his home and office - he is suing them for harassment and wants a court to grant him damages. Groups including Rainforest Action Network, Action Resource Centre and Amazon Watch have picketed outside chairman Ray Irani's home - sometimes in the early morning hours - to protest Occidental's plans to drill for oil on the ancestral home of the U'Wa Indians in Colombia. The U'Wa religion says oil drilling cuts the veins of a living, breathing Mother Earth and the tribe's 5,000 members have threatened to collectively commit suicide if Occidental drills on its land. In a lawsuit filed at the end of January in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Irani said demonstrators picketed and marched outside his home many times from September 1999 to January, disrupting his family life. A court in February granted him a restraining order that keeps protestors off of his property. Irani's lawyers said Tuesday that no protests had taken place since the court order but they were still pursuing legal action. "We were gratified that the injunction was granted in part, but obviously would have preferred the whole request to have been granted," Irani attorney Larry Barth said. Irani's suit had asked the court to further restrict the protests to certain times of day and at a set distance from his property. Irani also asked for unspecified damages for "substantial emotional distress and interference with quiet enjoyment of real property rights," according to court papers. In the court papers, Irani also said he received threatening letters coinciding with the protests and warning that he would "suffer the blood of you and your fellow earth rapists" if Occidental drills on U'Wa land. Amazon Watch, one of the groups that organised the rallies at Irani's home, said they held quiet prayer vigils and did not loudly bang on drums as alleged in Irani's suit. "It is a frivolous action and it's ironic that Ray Irani is trying to stop the protests around his home when he's invading the U'Wa homeland," said Atossa Soltani, Amazon Watch executive director. At the U'Wa tribe's request, a Colombian court last week issued a temporary order that stops Occidental from beginning to drill on the block of land in dispute. Occidental has said it will appeal, in its latest efforts to begin drilling after it was awarded exploratory rights in 1992. Protests against Occidental have included demonstrations at Occidental's annual meetings in 1997, 1998 and 1999. In addition, protest rallies have been staged at the offices of major Occidental shareholder Fidelity Investments. Story by Timna Tanners REUTERS NEWS SERVICE = To find a PIG to adopt in your area, go to the library and get a copy of " Who's Who." Who's Who is put out regionally, and is a registry of local pigdom. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chemtrail Conspiracy. (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Chemtrail Conspiracy. Anybody on Canadian Association of Journalists List come across the "Chemtrail Conspiracy"? See http://www.islandnet.com/wilco . "Project Censored" rated it as one of its top contenders last year. Investigator William Thomas was interviewed on the David Ingram television show yesterday concerning this story. Laboratory tests seem to confirm that large scale spraying of chemicals over Canada and USA is underway. The main component of the sprays is aluminum oxide leading to Thomas' theory that this is a covert plan to reflect back sunlight and slow global warming. However, it is claimed that molds, fungi and bacilli are also in some sprays. Moreover, I had to wonder from the limited information received if the spraying is concentrated over North American cities. If so that suggests there are more reasons for this than curbing global warming. FWP. http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm --- When replying to a message, please note who the message is being directed to. If you reply to the list owner your message will not get posted to the list members. To post to the list Reply To "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To unsubscribe send a message to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with "unsubscribe caj-list" in the BODY A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Terence McKenna
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- We were profoundly affected by Terence's last conference. The issues there seem to be related to some of the FREE SPEECH-FIRST AMENDMENT issues being discussed. So here's a discussion of Terence's last stand, free speech, government. Alfred Webre, Vancouver BC = In memory of Terence McKenna, we at Axiom/The Prophets Conferences offer this colorful story about this colorful person. He will continue to turn us on through his exceptional legacy of profound and powerful work. Having had the honor of presenting Terence's work a number of times in Hawaii, we also had the privilege of bringing his work to the public during his last national tour in 1996. This is a story from that tour. We hope that it will assist in his remembrance and inspire us all. -Cody May 31-June 6, 1996 LA Weekly by Michael Simmons We'd Love To Turn You Off The VA's bad trip over psychedelic futurist A speech by psychedelic explorer and back-to-the-past futurist Terence McKenna scheduled for Friday, May 10, at the Veterans Wadsworth Theater was almost canceled because the Department of Veterans Affairs found McKenna's promotion of certain illegal hallucinogens to be "contrary to their mission." McKenna finally made his appearance, but not before a bureaucratic melee that tested free-speech credentials of the city's leading public university. The Los Angeles chapter of the ACLU weighed in, and in the end, it took a federal judge to restore constitutional order. The saga of yet another struggle between the old and new ages began on May 3 with an anonymous complaint to the VA. McKenna had been profiled in that day's L.A. Times under the headline, "Talking With the Tim Leary of the '90s," and quoted in his belief that controlled experimentation with psilocybin mushrooms and other naturally occurring drugs can lead to transcendent consciousness. McKenna was also quoted supporting the legalization of most drugs and, in his trademark wiseass delivery, added, "...though Philip Morris marketing marijuana is a scary concept." The Wadsworth, where McKenna was scheduled to speak, is located on land owned by the VA and leased to UCLA for events. Responding to the complaint, Richard Pasquale, chair of the Asset Management Committee of the VA, contracted UCLA and expressed his agency's displeasure over McKenna's ideas being disseminated not only on government land, but so close to the VA hospital which provides drug and alcohol rehab to vets. The VA offers these vets freebies to Wadsworth events. It's doubtful the rehab unit contains any psilocybin junkies (it's non-addictive). Furthermore, hallucinogens were administered as a cure for alcoholism in the early '60s with promising results before hysterical authorities kiboshed the experiments (even AA founder Bill Wilson tripped on LSD). Nevertheless, Pasquale cited a lease provision that prohibited any "event that is deemed adverse to the interests of the United States or to the mission and program responsibilities of the Department of Veterans Affairs." One source at UCLA says that this is the third incident in which the VA has objected to the content of programming at Wadsworth. Winnie Glas, associate director of Conference and Event Management for UCLA, contacted Robin Haines-Johnson of Axiom Productions, the producers of McKenna's four-city road show, and informed her that the VA had nixed the engagement because of the aforementioned potential for verbal subversion. Glas offered Haines-Johnson the use of Griffin Commons on the UCLA campus, which has 700 seats, or Pauley Pavilion, which holds 12,500. McKenna drew a crowd of more than a thousand in his last L.A. appearance, so Axiom felt the 1,388-seat capacity at Wadsworth was the most appropriate. Glas further offered to reimburse Axiom for the difference in box office receipts up to $1,100 if they chose Griffin Commons, but she refused to promo the change of venue in the media. She instructed Axiom to notify them which venue they wanted or forfeit the show, and Axiom faxed Glas that they would accept Griffin Commons. However Glas said she never received a fax and for most of Tuesday the 7th, people inquiring about tickets were told that McKenna was canceled. By late Tuesday the fax was located and by Wednesday the event was back on the calendar. Meanwhile, McKenna's supporters contacted Ramona Ripston, executive director of the ACLU of Southern California, and the legal machinery jumped into gear, claiming First Amendment encroachment. ACLU lawyer Carol Sobel filed a suit against the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Regents of the University of California on behalf of McKenna, claiming "violation of plaintiff's core constitutional rights to engage in protected expression in a public forum." On the morning of the event, the Justice Department filed a statement of non-opposition to the
[CTRL] [2] THE RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE IN THE UNITED STATES
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.skolnicksreport.com/chinesesp2.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.skolnicksreport.com/chinesesp2.html"Sherman Skolnick's Report/A - THE RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE IN THE UNITED STATES, Part Two of a Series by Sherman H. Skolnick ---How They Penetrated the Markets in Chicago---To understand the details of this series, you need to have a virtual encyclopedic knowledge of several related subjects. A short lesson on what you need to know: [1] Primary research and investigation. I do not know if anyone has really ever written on what that term really means. Some author highly detailed stories that are followed by numerous chapter notes referring to SOMEONE ELSE'S magazine article or book followed by chapter notes, if any. So, when the article is finished, you are relying on third and fourth hand data which may or may not be true. We rely on first hand sources. In over 40 years our group has compiled some one million documents, confidential reports, tapes, pictures, and such. Some we can safely post on Internet and elsewhere. Some not. So, from all this, what we on our own have corroborated, we put into our reports. We never, never divulge sources. We do not want to find out our sources are found dead, floating in the canal, or just now mysteriously fell off a building to their death, or that their airplane blew up in the air. As the head of our group and spokesman, I have been put in jail over the decades some eight times. NOT FOR COMMITTING CRIMES, but for contempt of court, for refusing to divulge sources. [2] Our work, thus obtained, has led to several dozen judges going to prison for bribery. And the removal or jailing of other corrupt high-level public officials. The results are what counts, not how many footnotes we have quoting someone else's footnotes. Yet, uninformed critics often hollar at us, "Where are you documents, Sherman?" They probably never themselves produced results. And have never, like us, obtained details, directly from those who know but whose identity cannot be revealed. [3] You have to understand the banking system. We do. What money laundering is, and how public officials are under a malign, if not corrupt influence, by bribery and such, not in an alley at night, but in a bank by daylight. Several terms before Clinton was Arkansas Governor, the Governor was Winthrop Rockefeller, part of a family that has long owned and operated Arkansas, a sizeable state with a small population. If there ever were "documents" linking William Rockefeller Clinton directly to the Rockefellers, such records have long since been destroyed. The Rockefellers are not stupid, leaving footprints for fools to discover. We have strong reasons to believe the person using the name "Clinton" is an illegitimate great grandson of old John D. Rockefeller, founder of the infamous monopoly called Standard Oil, broken up by Court order 1911 and in later years, corruptly re-combined. In Chicago, a bank formed at the time of the American Civil War was called First National Bank of Chicago. Now called Bank One. Who knows, by the time you read this, the name will be changed again to confuse people. For many years it has been a Rockefeller bank. Starting at least in the 1980s, and even earlier, this Rockefeller bank loaned billions to the Red Chinese on the promise of repayment in gold from China's western provinces. But, gold mine "inspectors" were never permitted. So, China was permitted instead to repay by flooding the U.S. with dope, with impunity, through Chicago. The highly crooked Drug Enforcement Administration has been all along willfully blind. The resulting huge money river enabled China, with the connivance of their partners/patrons, the Rockefellers, to penetrate the markets in Chicago: principally the Chicago Board of Trade, and to an extent as well, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, the Chicago Board Options Exchange, and the Midwest Stock Exchange [since a scandal in 1991, renamed Chicago Stock Exchange]. Brokerage and trading firms and their people are supposed to do "due diligence". They are required to find out who their customers are. But, in Chicago, more than one such firm really does not know, OR WANT TO KNOW, who their Red Chinese customers are. It is well accepted, however, that the Red Chinese and their multitude of "spooks" have an armlock on the markets in the Windy City. For many years, Chairman of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, was Leo Melamed, more recently, Chairman Emeritus. He reportedly grew up in the Orient and understands and/or speaks Chinese. Have the reporters who have interviewed him over the years, ever asked HIM about his reported role in promoting the Red Chinese Secret Police and their domination of the Chicago markets? When, if ever, does the financial press even mention the Red Chinese and the Chicago markets, the prices of items by them referred to worldwide? For a hundred and fifty
[CTRL] OEN 4/8/00
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Irrational Exurberance Is the Technology Bubble Bursting? Nah. It's only a correction. Trust me. Buy Microsoft. THE wild ride in the worlds stockmarkets grows ever wilder. Time and again, plunging prices have caused investors to ask if this is the crash, only for the market to turn around. Yet behind this volatility, one trend is clear: enthusiasm for technology stocks seems to be waning. In the past six weeks, the Dow Jones Industrial Average, dominated by old-economy firms, has crept higher; but Nasdaq, stuffed full of technology stocks, has fallen sharply. On April 4th, it closed 18% down from its record high on March 10th (though it is still well up since the middle of last year). At one stage on April 4th it had fallen by 14% on the day. Typically, it then rose on April 5th. The disillusionment with tech stocks has been even more pronounced elsewhere in the world, particularly in markets such as Bombay and Seoul. In Japan, Softbank and Hikari Tsushin have hit downward trading limits most days in the past week. The London Stock Exchange supplied the perfect metaphor for the times by failing to open for most of April 5th because of technical glitches. The swings in the main indices have been dramatic enough, but the behaviour of individual shares has been even wilder. During the morning of April 4th JDS Uniphase, a maker of parts for the next generation of optical fibres, saw its market capitalisation bounce between $58 billion and $82 billion. In March it had been valued at $109 billion. Many shares are now more volatile than they were in the 1987 stockmarket crash, according to Lawrence McMillan, an independent options analyst. Why are previously high-flying equities suddenly so out of favour? Rising short-term interest rates may be one culprit. With little or no debt, many analysts had assumed that tech stocks were immune to interest rates. Yet higher rates mean that investors face a higher cost of capital, and they should also raise the discount rate on future earnings. Investors may also have become better at valuing such shares. Rather than buying en bloc, they may now be going only for those that have a reasonable expectation of profits. Old-economy companies are also making a fist of embracing the Internet, increasing their appeal and reducing the lure of new-economy firms that had hoped to replace them. Increased volatility may also have taken its toll on investors appetite for risk. And individual investors who have borrowed to buy shares are experiencing the pain of meeting margin calls. Nor is there a traditional flock of investors who want to buy cheap sharesso-called value investorsand who have traditionally provided a floor under prices if they fall too far. Such fund managers have become unpopular laggards during the bull market: witness the recent retirement of Julian Robertson, who ran Tiger, a once-big hedge fund, and the travails of Warren Buffett, of Berkshire Hathaway. Value investors have lost ground to a school of investing based on how companies will do relative to expectations in the coming quarter, and to another fashionable group of large investors known as momentum investors, whose bets are made solely on the direction in which a market is heading. Add these together and you have the elements in place for a panic. The catalyst this week came on April 4th when a judge ruled in favour of the Justice Departments antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft. The shares of one of Americas biggest firms dropped sharply. Although this hurt the Dow, to which Microsoft has recently been admitted, its problems were more than made up for by gains in old-economy companies. But Nasdaq contains many big technology firms as well as Microsoft, including Cisco, Intel, and Oracle. Shares in most of these firms slumped too. Perhaps, in part, because of fears of antitrust suits against them. Microsoft has been the quintessential growth stock since the mid-1980s because it has managed to maintain its huge market share and profit margins in a fast-growing market. For investors that has been a splendid money-making opportunity; to a judge it might smack of monopoly profits. Although Microsoft may be more truculent than most, it is not unique in having characteristics that could attract an antitrust investigation: high market share and big margins. Look across the technology landscape at leaders such as Intel (chips), Oracle (database management), Cisco (routers), and Sun Microsystems (servers). All have a dominant market share that might seem monopolistic. This is not a coincidence. New-economy companies often have huge costs for development, but low costs for every extra customer. The best products cost no more to buy and, given scale, cost less to make than those of competitors. Result: winner
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Fw: [GATA] From the Financial Times: Waking up the bears
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A very insightful and incisive analysis about the state of the economy, provided courtesy of GATA: WAKING UP THE BEARS By BARRY RILEY Financial Times www.ft.com April 8, 2000 Even the ringing tone of the telephone seemed unusual: low-pitched and rasping. I picked it up with a degree of instinctive fear -- and rightly so, because it turned out to be a call from Mortimer Duhm, the arch-bear. Bears are forced into hibernation for long periods; then they burst out of their caves with renewed energy. In Mort's case, though, it was a cold wind from the markets that woke him up, not spring sunshine. "I see that the London Stock Exchange has shut down," he hissed, referring to this week's computer glitches. "You remember that the last time it happened, after the October 1987 hurricane, was only days before the global stock market crash." Wall Street was wobbling badly, I agreed, but there was still plenty of resistance. After the 500-point collapse in the Dow Jones Average on Tuesday and the 11 pe cent crash in the Nasdaq index, the markets bounced straight back again. "Yes, the manipulation continues for the moment," snapped Duhm. "It was suspiciously similar to the dramatic recovery in October 1998. Wall Street now believes that the U.S. government and the big investment banks will always organise a rescue, helped by the occasional Saudi billionaire. But moral hazard is piling up and time is running out. "The bull run has become ever more intense and concentrated, finally climaxing in an eccentric technology bubble. The old economy had plainly become overpriced, so the concept of the new economy was invented by Wall Street and Alan Greenspan, with stock market ratings justified by ever-rising prices. But it has become a vast Ponzi scheme." I was aware, I said, of all the conspiracy theories about the role of the U.S. authorities in fueling the great bull market, which had done so much to restore President Clinton's popularity. But why, then, was the U.S. government threatening to break up Microsoft, the biggest technology company of them all? "It's simple," snapped Duhm. "The financial and legal sides are just not working on the same wavelength. The whole bubble has been pumped up by the U.S. Treasury working in cahoots with the Federal Reserve. It began in the mid-1990s as an idea for boosting economic growth. Then it got out of control, and has regularly had to be propped up through liquidity injections and interest rate cuts." It was certainly interesting, I replied, that bodies like the Institute of International Finance were accusing the Americans of generating economic fragility and encouraging wild volatility in asset prices. The current account deficit had hit $28 billion a month. You could add that an incredible binge by American consumers was in progress and the U.S. was mopping up the world's savings. The surge in the oil price was an early warning signal; but that was easily presented by politicians as the fault of greedy sheikhs rather than the American love of unnecessary off-road gas guzzlers. I remembered that the last time I talked to Mort Duhm, he was obsessed with alleged similarities between Thailand, which crashed in financial ruins in 1997 after a currency collapse, and the United States. All that had happened since, though, was that the United States had boomed ever more strongly, hitting a 7 percent economic growth rate by late 1999. Even so, Duhm insisted: "We are getting very close to the edge. Being the world's biggest debtor is safe only when you have complete political mastery. "The Asian problem was solved by transferring the financial imbalances to the United States itself. That is a patch-up, not a solution. The Americans have squared the circle temporarily by persuading foreigners to invest in U.S. technology. But now, that illusion is collapsing. The United States depends on foreign governments being willing to keep piling up dollar assets -- especially Asian countries and oil producers. "True, the United States deliberately left Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq to keep the Saudis and Kuwaitis frightened and submissive. That's recently helped to buy the Americans time over the oil price. But now they face China, which, through its massive trade surplus with the United States, has acquired an economic weapon: It can attack the dollar as part of the political battle over Taiwan." "Hold on," I replied. "You could also argue that China has acquired a big stake in the dollar and needs to keep it healthy. I'm rather more interested at the moment in the internal risks. Investors have chased ever more risky investments, in a classic mania. Safe companies have collapsed in price. As we have seen in the past week or two, the risks of equities have increased. Logically, the prospective return must go
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000408b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/07_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No retiring UFOlogists were defenestrated to produce this bulletin. Yet. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ GREETINGS, HUMANS! http://www.voltaire.net/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFOs Over San Juan, Puerto Rico. What's going on in Puerto Rico? Under a clear blue sky, an aerial show was mounted over San Juan, Puerto Rico by two high flying objects. http://www.sightings.com/general/puerto.htm # Illinois UFO Sighting Of January 5 Still Making News - no new material lately: http://www.riverfronttimes.com/issues/2000-04-05/feature.html # UFO investigator sails into sunset - Lack of extraterrestrial sightings prompts retirement: http://news-observer.com/daily/2000/04/07/tri03.html : When the news on UFOs runs thin, are you surprised that old UFO reports are recycled? What happened to all the crop circles? Have you been abducted /probed/implanted lately? Where are the MiBs when you really really need'em? @ Paranormal sounds, earthquakes http://www.teleport.com/~bfryer/cking.shtml @ Electromagnetic Heresy: http://www.teleport.com/~bfryer/heresy.html @ Subtle Connections: http://goertzel.org/dynapsyc/1996/subtle.html @ The Fogal Transistor: http://www.eskimo.com/~ghawk/fogal_device _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ VACUUM SPIN FIELDS. Spin waves in condensed matter are well-studied in modern physics. But there is a less-known backwater: Torsion Fields, the quantum spin of empty space; the large-scale coherent effects of the spin of the particles in the virtual sea. http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/tors/ @ Subtle Energy: http://webcom.com/hrtmath/IHM/Research/SubtleEnergy.html @ Biological Antigravitation: http://www.sinor.ru/~che/grebennikov.htm @ "Water Memory" sent over wires: http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/digibio.html @ "Spin Doctors": A New Paradigm Theorizing Mechanisms of Bioenergy Healing: http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Archived%20Articles/1-2/benford.html @ Recent PSI research: http://resonate.org/places/writings/larissa/sciwi.htm @ Vacuum: A New Paradigm: http://www.dataforce.net/~binhi/Shipov/shipov.html @ Planetophysicality: http://millenngroup.com/repository/planetary/pfvd.html @ Models of polarized states of the physical vacuum and torsion fields: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7919/torsion1.htm : Have you spun any vacuum fields lately? Have you derived any antigravity? Is it alive? Does your water remember, or d'ya remember water? D'ya subtly spin in empty space, healing? Are you Planetophysical? [Thanks, Unit4!!] _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Indonesian Muslims PROTEST - denounce Israel, communism, atheists: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565501262-e39 # INDONESIA MUSLIMS PREPARE TO SEND JIHAD ARMY TO MALUKUS, wage holy war against Christians: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48878 # MI6 vs Libya: Qadahfi overthrow plot: http://cryptome.org/qadahfi-plot.htm @ NSA's Subliminal Posthypnotic Scripts. Subliminal implanted posthypnotic suggestions and scripts using acoustically delivered and phonetically accelerated posthypnotic commands without somnambulistic preparation in the subject for intelligence and counterintelligence applications by the U.S. National Security Agency. http://www.kimsoft.com/2000/NSA-psy.htm : Have you waged any holy/mental/economic wars lately? Are wars best waged by hypnotized puppets? Are police/priests/politicos/puppets waging war on you? Do you fight back in kind? Are wars ceaseless, inevitable, habitual?? # YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE. Police seek to expand surveillance - 'An attempt to roll back an important protection for the citizens' - ever vigilant: http://www.seattletimes.com/news/local/html98/wtoo07m_2407.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UN SAYS DEVELOPING WORLD AT RISK FROM UNSAFE BLOOD - millions could die from tainted supplies: http://CNN.com/2000/HEALTH/04/07/health.blood.reut/ @ WHY HAVEN'T YOU SAID MUCH ON THE DANGERS OF POWER LINES? There isn't much to say: http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=31351 @ NOW WILL YOU AGREE THAT VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM? Research has found no con- clusive evidence of a connection between autism and the measles vaccine. The vaccine theory is Quite low on the list of possible suspects as the cause of autism. Genetic theory intrauterine events are the top conten- ders now. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=31356 # Fen-Phen cover-up? FDA reviewer: Maker knew about problems before drug pulled: http://cbsnews.cbs.com/now/story/0,1597,181616-412,00.shtml # Hijacking The Gods - Of Hoagland, Cayce,
[CTRL] Fwd: Censored by the Bay
Project Censored 2000: CENSORED BY THE BAY San Francisco Bay Guardian, April 5, 2000 We asked activists and media observers what local stories the Bay Area media ignored in 1999. A few themes came up again and again: poverty issues, real estate riches, and environmental abuses. Here are eight observers' picks for the stories the Chron[icle], the Ex[aminer], and the TV newscasts couldn't find room for. __Tim Kingston, news editor, San Francisco Frontiers: "How the real estate industry in San Francisco affects housing availability, and who actually controls real estate in San Francisco. Who determines the land values? What families own what, and how do they exercise that power? "The impact of reform in tax codes. These tax codes have little loopholes that benefit the rich while the rest of us get screwed." __Dennis Bernstein, producer, Flashpoints, KPFA-FM: "Around the Bay Area and around the country, the police are working with schools cracking down on kids who are late for school. Truancy police department vans have picked up the kids, arrested and fingerprinted them. That's just part of the criminalization of children at every level. "The beautiful green East Bay is considered a blighted zone and irretrievable. That's one step short of disaster, according to Greenpeace. And it's worth noting that the East Bay is heavily a community of color." __Norman Solomon, syndicated media critic: "Poverty in the Bay Area. There's such an infatuation with dot-coms and Silicon Valley, but there's relatively little focus on those who are left out of the economic boom. "By reading the dailies and watching every local newscast, you learn very little about who owns property in the city and therefore has clout with the Mayor's Office. It's no coincidence that the people with the big real estate interests are usually palsy-walsy with the top editors and publishers of the local dailies." __Dan Noyes, editorial director, Center for Investigative Reporting: "How term limits and the initiative process has eviscerated the state legislature. The California state government is more and more unwilling to take on any tough issues." __Andrea Buffa, executive director, Media Alliance: "The independent expenditures loophole in San Francisco politics -- a new soft-money loophole that allows increased soft money to go to candidates. How it affected the mayoral race and how it will affect district elections. "Prop. 21: Although the campaign was covered, the impact of the proposition on the juvenile-justice system was not." __Robert Haaland, activist, Tenants Union: "The real estate industry and how much they have benefited from the displacement of thousands of tenants in the last few years. One of the reasons why the city has so much money in recent years is because of the real estate transfer tax. "And the implementation of the Costa Hawkins Act. This law allows property owners to increase rent to market rate once the last remaining tenant on the lease leaves the apartment. The passing of this bill directly impacts a large portion of Bay Guardian readers. The rent board is having a hearing April 25." __Prathap Chattergee, print and radio freelance journalist: "In late September the incineration of the huge tire dump near Modesto spewing benzene, a known carcinogen, into the Central Valley. The cloud of black smoke affected weather patterns not only in the Central Valley but also in the Bay Area. The fire was a major contributing factor to pollution in and around San Francisco -- but outside of KPFA and the East Bay Express there was no coverage." __Christopher Cook, freelance journalist: "There's so much attention paid to the dot-com revolution and the Silicon Valley hype, but there's almost no peep about living wages. The media could focus more on the workers in the back of the kitchen making incredibly low wages. You don't hear about them, but they live in the city, too." _ Our picks for local censored stories THE PRIVATIZATION OF PUBLIC SERVICES The San Francisco Zoo is still in deep trouble. And six years of private management hasn't helped. In fact, since the private San Francisco Zoo Society took over, salaries are skyrocketing, admission fees are up, and the animals are no better off. That's just one example of how the privatization trend -- the giving away of public assets to the wealthy -- is robbing the San Francisco Bay Area. And yet it continues apace -- at the Presidio, at the Edison Charter Academy, perhaps soon at a private parking garage beneath Golden Gate Park. Unaccountable "friends of" groups are making spending decisions for city departments, untouched by public influence or public accountability. It's a massive shift of resources away from taxpayers and voters and toward big business and wealthy
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4. AMERICAN SWEATSHOPS SEW U.S. MILITARY UNIFORMS The women who work at the Lion Apparel factory in Beattyville, Ky., work long, grueling days for minimum wage. All day they breathe fumes from formaldehyde, a suspected carcinogen. In the winter, they freeze; in the southern summers, they swelter for want of air conditioning. In the past 12 years, their employer has been cited 32 times for health and safety violations. But keeping workers in sweatshop conditions helps Lion keep prices low for its biggest customer: the U.S. Department of Defense. According to accounts from workers, the Lion plant and others that make uniforms for the U.S. military fall squarely within the legal definition of sweatshops: wages that don't meet workers' basic needs, uncomfortable and dangerous working conditions, and intimidation when workers try to unionize. (Lion denies all these charges.) But you won't hear the Pentagon complaining. unlike some other high-profile retailers, led by Kathie Lee Gifford, the Defense Department has never signed onto the Clinton administration's Workplace Code of Conduct. In fact, it aggressively works to keep costs as low as possible, and workers end up paying the price. The Union of Needletrades, Industrial, and Textile Employees tried to organize Lion workers in 1997. The drive failed, the union says, because of management's unyielding opposition -- including, some workers say, dark threats of plant closures. Uniforms for America's military are made in some of the country's poorest communities: rural Appalachia, small towns in the Deep South. The economic boom has had little impact here, and workers are still dependent on a precious few employers. And instead of trying to help them out of poverty, the government saves money by exploiting their labor. Note: Lion Apparel challenged Mother Jones and demanded a retraction of this story. Mother Jones refused, but it did make two changes in its report. Mark Boal, http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/MJ99/boal.html "An American Sweatshop," Mother Jones, May/June 1999. For more information go to http://www.nlcnet.org http://www.sweatshopwatch.org http://www.uniteunion.org 5. TURKEY DESTROYS KURDISH VILLAGES WITH U.S. WEAPONS The Turkish government's campaign of repression against ethnic Kurds has lasted since the Turkish Republic was founded in 1923. Fifteen years ago, though, the civil war escalated -- thanks to generous donations of weaponry from the United States. Since 1980 the United States has sold or given Turkey weapons to the tune of $15 billion -- including Cobra helicopters, armored personnel carriers, and F-16 fighter bombers. American soldiers have been sent to Turkey to train commando forces there. An estimated 75 percent of the Turkish army's arsenal is marked "Made in the U.S.A." This weaponry has gone to quell the nationalist movement among the Kurds -- at 25 million, the largest ethnic group in the world without its own state. The Turkish civil war represents the single largest use of U.S. weapons by non-U.S. forces anywhere in the world. In the past 15 years nearly 40,000 lives have been lost -- more than in the West Bank and in Northern Ireland combined. More than 3,000 villages have been leveled, burned, or evacuated since 1990; some were simply destroyed from above by American-made bombers. Two million Kurds have lost their homes. All this in an effort by Turkey's military government to crack down on the Marxist-led Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK. In a tactic borrowed from the U.S. army in Vietnam, Turkish soldiers habitually force Kurdish civilians into serving as "village guards." Villagers who won't participate in the anti-PKK struggle have been beaten, forced off their land, or worse. Readers of the U.S. press have seen stories about the plight of the Iraqi Kurds -- perhaps because their oppressor, Saddam Hussein, is an enemy of the United States. But there are four times as many Kurds in Turkey, also suffering state repression, and about them we hear nothing. Is that because their tormentors are our allies, using our weapons? Kevin McKeirnan, "Turkey's War on the Kurds," Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, March/April 1999. For more information go to http://www.kurdistan.org http://www.fas.org/asmp http://www.clark.net/kurd 6. NATO DEFENDS PRIVATE ECONOMIC INTERESTS IN THE BALKANS The Kosovo conflict was repeatedly cited as the first victory for the new world order. Liberals abandoned their usual suspiciousness of military intervention, enchanted by the idea of the United States as a crusader for human rights worldwide. Republicans played along, abandoning their typical hawkishness to argue that U.S. troops should only be used to defend U.S. interests. Here's what neither side said aloud: the United States had some very traditional economic interests in the Balkans, and
[CTRL] Fwd: Project Censored 1999 [1/3]
PROJECT CENSORED 2000: Most overreported news stories ` San Francisco Bay Guardian, April 5, 2000 *Uncovered: Stories that should have been on the front pages *Censored by the Bay: Our picks for local censored stories The stories: 1. Multinational corporations profit from international brutality 2. Pharmaceutical companies put profits before need 3. Financially bloated American Cancer Society fails to prevent cancer 4. American sweatshops sew U.S. military uniforms 5. Turkey destroys Kurdish villages with U.S. weapons 6. NATO defends private economic interests in the Balkans 7. U.S. media reduces foreign coverage 8. Planned weapons in space violate international law 9. Louisiana promotes toxic racism 10. U.S. and NATO deliberately started the war with Yugoslavia Runners-up Junk food news -- The most overreported news stories of 1999: 1. Tinky Winky's sexuality 2. Pokemon 3. Y2K 4. The millennium 5. Pamela Lee Anderson's breasts 6. "Star Wars" 7. The Clintons 8. Columbine/teen shootings 9. The death of John F. Kennedy Jr. 10. George W. Bush's cocaine use (Selected by the members of the Organization of News Ombudsmen) Uncovered: Project Censored reveals the stories that should have been on the front pages in 1999 by Gabriel Roth The stock market is soaring. The Internet is delivering ever more consumer goods to your doorstep. The United States and NATO brought peace to the former Yugoslavia. The biggest issues facing the American people are a spike in gas prices and an adorable little Cuban boy. If the mainstream media are to be believed, global capitalism has nearly reached its final destination: an endless era of peace and prosperity, punctuated by thrilling plane crashes and touching celebrity deaths. Meanwhile, the magic of the marketplace hasn't done much for the millions in poor countries who are dying of curable diseases. For indigenous peoples who have the misfortune to live on top of fossil-fuel deposits, globalism has brought displacement, brutal repression, and sometimes murder. And what was the real goal of NATO's peacekeeping mission in the Balkans? "The dark side of capitalism -- that's something the American press doesn't tell us about," Project Censored director Peter Phillips says. "Stories about powerful people making decisions that impact billions of people's lives often don't get told by the media, because they're more interested in entertaining us than in keeping us informed." That's where Project Censored comes in. For 24 years Project Censored, based at California's Sonoma State University, has tracked the excesses and omissions of the media #150; investigating its biases by studying what it leaves out. Researchers comb alternative weeklies, fringe political rags, trade and medical journals, and special-interest newsletters to find the stories the American public needs to know but won't find in the New York Times. The stories they select are reviewed by a committee of journalists, academics, and media critics. The resulting list, "the year's top 25 censored stories," gets more frightening every year. Bottom line Censored is a tricky word. There are no government overseers in the editorial offices of the daily papers, blacking out sensitive facts (although until recently the White House did offer TV networks tips on how to punch up antidrug messages). And while it's certainly not unheard of for corporate czars to squelch tough stories at their media properties, it's not an everyday occurrence. Censorship in the mainstream media, say Project Censored's founders, operates on a more insidious level. Hard-hitting stories don't usually get spiked -- they never get written at all. "Sometimes they say the story's too complex for the American public to understand," says Carl Jensen, founder of Project Censored and now a professor emeritus at Sonoma State University's Department of Media and Communications Studies. "Sometimes it's lazy reporters -- the story's too difficult, it takes too much time. Sometimes it's blatantly threatening to the corporations that own the media: you won't find NBC doing stories on nuclear power when General Electric signs their paychecks." As Phillips puts it, "What we're seeing is the overlap between the government, the corporations, and the media -- which is now down to about a dozen corporations that are dominating all over the world. We can have 300 cable channels, but they're all coming from the same sources." And as media outlets are consolidated into fewer and fewer hands, one concern becomes increasingly important: the bottom line. Media companies more interested in profits than in content find they can save money by cutting editorial budgets. And every job cut from a newsroom makes it harder for that paper to put resources into tough, investigative stories. "As the consolidation of the media increases,
[CTRL] TBO--WHY FACTION TWO WANTS HILLARY IN THE SENATE
A little something from RuMills to make your day. Alfred ;) http://www.earthradioTV.com Alternative News Portal for Ecology, Politics, Consciousness = ===RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY=== From the Desk of Ru Mills, Editor in Chief RMNews March 8, 2000 Today's CBS poll result's gave Hillary Clinton an edge beyond any statistical margin of error. The poll showed her drawing 49 per cent of voters over 41 per cent for Mr Giuliani. --- The article about the poll -- taken from the UK Independent -- will be at the end of this email -- In light of this poll, RMNews believes it is time to bring back one of the TBO Series ---(The Best Of Rumor Mill News) Many RMNews readers know that Rumor Mill News was the first media outlet anywhere in the world to announce that Hillary Clinton was going to run for the Senate in New York. We announced this in November of 1998. Shortly after we made this announcement, we added a note to one of our articles stating that Faction Two WANTS Hillary to run for the Senate -- Many readers were aghast and astonished that Faction Two could possible want Hillary in the Senate. They sent hundreds of emails asking us to explain. However -- at the time, our Sources said they did not want to go public with the reason they want Hillary to run for the Senate. They stated if Hillary knew their logic -- she might not run -- So, we sat on the story until we were given permission to run it -- When permission to run the story finally came our sources told about a book that had been written. They said they were trying to find a "spokesperson" to "front" for the book. This practice of "fronting" a book is common in the world of politics, intrigue and spies. Book deals are made to pay off politicians for selling out America -- usually someone who doesn't even know the politician writes a glowing diatribe and millions go into the politicians bank account. Another case in which politicians are paid off is when they are given millions to lend their name and reputation to a cause -- such as Al Gore's environmental crusade which was made famous by his book, "In The Balance". Once, when asked by a CIA operative if I had read the book, I answered no --- The CIA man replied, "That's all right, Al hasn't read it either." There are other times when certain factions are trying to get their story out to the American public, and a book is written, and sent to one of their proprietary publishing companies. Then a "front man" has to be chosen to become the "author" and go on the talk shows promoting the book and most importantly -- the message that the backers of the book, want the American public to believe. This last method was done for the book that has just been written by Peggy Noonan -- "The Case Against Hillary Clinton" -- RMNews was told about this book back in June of 1999, when we were given the following information -- at the time -- we were told the title would be -- "The Crimes of Hillary Clinton". Evidently the title was changed slightly -- but the information contained in the book is listed below -- in the write up RMNews did on the book months before Peggy Noonan even thought about it. Buy the book, read it and let RMNews know if our review -- 10 months before publication -- is accurate. If Rudy Guillani thinks he stands a snowballs chance in Hell of winning this race for Senate -- he simply doesn't understand the Clinton Machine. Hillary's supporters have already labeled him a Nazi, a racist and a supporter of racist murderers. If Hillary's supporters have to start a race war to win the Senate race, they will do it -- However, don't think that the Republicans won't have a hand in Hillary's Senate win -- What do I mean by this? I mean -- Watch for a third candidate -- One that will draw votes from Guillani -- Everyone needs to practice very carefully --- "Good Morning Senator Rodham-Clinton." ++ Why is RMNews re-releasing this article about why Faction Two wants Hillary to run for the Senate? It is because of this statement from the earlier article -- "The Mayor is counting on the support of Faction 2 and believes their "Hillary Smear Campaign" will succeed in getting him elected. The Mayor should not count his chickens before they hatch." After you read the following article, I think you will agree with Faction Two -- It is better to have Hillary in the Senate -- rather than running the United Nations -- either as the head, or as the grey imminence behind the scenes. Imagine for a minute, what the world would be like if Hillary could put her personal stamp on every program carried out in the world. Have you thought about this? Then I am sure you will say what I say, "Sorry Rudy -- for the good of the world -- Hillary needs to go to Washington." Just ask yourself, how many Senators have ever done anything that anyone remembers them for? Especially a first term senator? With Hillary in the Senate -- the world will be safe from her imprimatur for at
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
No. This is about a little boy, whose mother and stepdad died to bring him to the States and save him from a life in Cuba. If you guys don't want him, I'd support him coming to Canada. I actually watch with disgust the attempts to send this poor child back there, by a supposedly left of center American government. Showing their true hateful agenda in this one, huh. Been killing babies for so many years that hurting kids just seems to be coming on naturally. And real compassionate Joshua. Being on the right doesn't mean being cruel. Thank God I'm not an atheist Tara Bill Shannon wrote: This is all about personal animosity towards Castro...these thugs in Miami, surrounding the house and threatening traffic blockades, don't give a whit about the kid...they want to "stick it to" Castro...that's all. And after seeing the way these folks act, very unruly, I can almost understand Castro's methods...he has no choice grin Joshua 2 wrote: I think we should send the Miami Cubans back where they came from. I'm sick of them and their fascist bullshit. These bastards need to learn that democracy and anti communism are not the same thing. They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws are against them. If they can't deal with that I would be willing to donate some money for rafts, and point them due south where they would get the wellcome they deserve back in the old country. Boycott Miami until they leave. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Good answer :) What are you talking about? To repeat my original, and as yet unanswered question, what has that got to do with non-Catholic prolifers? Even atheist prolifers? You called me and all other prolifers hypocrites. That was the basis of my question. It had nothing to do with "Culture of Whatever". Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 4:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Ask the Vatican what it has to do with pro-lifers as their front man keeps using the expressions "Culture of Life" vs. "Culture of Death" on his global sod-kissing expeditions. FWP. On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- What the hell has that got to do with pro-lifers? Not all of us are Catholic, nor even Christian, Ken Kesey being one very famous example. But any Christian who supports abortion is self-obsessed, not self-professed. And God doesn't get fooled. Tara A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Censored by the Bay
This is exactly what's happening in Philadelphia, thanks to "America's Mayor," now chair of the Democratic National Committee and presumptive future governor of Pennsylvania, Edward G. Rendell. Almost the first thing he did when he took office eight years ago was to virtually eliminate funding for the Philadelphia Zoo (oldest in the nation) and the Art Museum. He and Vice President-in-waiting Tom Ridge blew a highly lucrative deal to bring a German shipbuilding firm to the former Navy Yard; then they went out and pulled in Kvaerner, a real sweetheart deal complete with massive subsidies and tax writeoffs...only to have Kvaerner announce that they're getting out of the shipbuilding industry entirely. (Why? Could it be that investigators are getting too close to exactly why the Kvaerner-built Estonian ferry sank in the Baltic Sea several years ago?) One of Rendell's proudest "achievements" was to get Disney to agree to build a "DisneyQuest" urban theme park/mall like the one Rudy Giuliani has in Times Square...except that as soon as Eddie left office, his successor, former City Council President "Fighting John" Street, announced that the deal was dead... You gotta love it, people! - Original Message - From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 7:05 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Censored by the Bay snip THE PRIVATIZATION OF PUBLIC SERVICES The San Francisco Zoo is still in deep trouble. And six years of private management hasn't helped. In fact, since the private San Francisco Zoo Society took over, salaries are skyrocketing, admission fees are up, and the animals are no better off. That's just one example of how the privatization trend -- the giving away of public assets to the wealthy -- is robbing the San Francisco Bay Area. And yet it continues apace -- at the Presidio, at the Edison Charter Academy, perhaps soon at a private parking garage beneath Golden Gate Park. Unaccountable "friends of" groups are making spending decisions for city departments, untouched by public influence or public accountability. It's a massive shift of resources away from taxpayers and voters and toward big business and wealthy foundations -- and you won't read about it in the Chron[icle] or the Ex[aminer] [San Francisco's only two daily newspapers]. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
In a message dated 4/8/00 7:04:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No. This is about a little boy, whose mother and stepdad died to bring him to the States and save him from a life in Cuba And a now motherless child with a living dad, a dad who wants his son with him. That really is all that matters...he goes back! If you guys don't want him, I'd support him coming to Canada. I actually watch with disgust the attempts to send this poor child back there, by a supposedly left of center American government It's not that "we" don't want him, it's that his dad DOES want him... And I watch with disgust the mob scene in Miami, a Faubus/Wallace wannabe mayor, and a ton of Miami Cubans with no regard for this country's laws... Could you imagine being the neighbors of this family...trying to relax after a tough day and coming home to thousands of sweaty protestors in your yard! What little regard for others! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pope Most Important Socialist in the World Says Gorbachev
Dear Joshua2: As a beekeeper I can only believe in a supreme being because human rea- son can not but believe that they were created to do such marvelous things that many of the things they do are not understood to this day. Then I believe there has to be a creator. And if He can do such wonder- ous things with bees then everything created by Him begs the question: how can all this he without an omnipotent creator? So it follows I have no trouble believing in the Virgin birth. As for sex: I like sex but as something created by God, for me, sex has rules and when I keep God's rules they keep be free, not a slave to my selfish passions. Very sincerely, Don Huffman Don't deceive yourself, you have created your own gods. -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
I understand your points and cannot disagree with most. Very well put, actually. But I also cannot agree that this ionly about his dad. I can't believe that Casto and his thugs aren't behind the father's attempts to take this child back to Cuba. People have talked about the present pope on this list. Tha day I came to see his true place in the scheme of things was the day I saw him hanging out with Castro. I think I lost any respect I may have had for him when I saw him kiss that murderous bastard's hand. I can't believe that deep down this boy's dad was not thrilled to see that his son had got to America, and that he would not himself defect if Castro were not in some way intimidating him to do this, and then to return. I was surprised to see that his baby was not kept in Cuba. But I'm sure that someone he loves sits with their life in jeopardy if Elian's father doesn't do what Castro tells him to do. I remember when Castro had that plane of civilians shot out of the sky and the American government did nothing! Oh, right... They don't produce oil in Cuba and Clinton is partial to Cuban cigars. No boycott there. And no support for Elian. Clinton's a wimp, who won't do anything to help this kid, but then the Canadian government is no better. Except Prime Minister Chretien prefers golfing and travel to sexual promiscuity. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect In a message dated 4/8/00 7:04:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No. This is about a little boy, whose mother and stepdad died to bring him to the States and save him from a life in Cuba And a now motherless child with a living dad, a dad who wants his son with him. That really is all that matters...he goes back! If you guys don't want him, I'd support him coming to Canada. I actually watch with disgust the attempts to send this poor child back there, by a supposedly left of center American government It's not that "we" don't want him, it's that his dad DOES want him... And I watch with disgust the mob scene in Miami, a Faubus/Wallace wannabe mayor, and a ton of Miami Cubans with no regard for this country's laws... Could you imagine being the neighbors of this family...trying to relax after a tough day and coming home to thousands of sweaty protestors in your yard! What little regard for others! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Pro-lifers will tell you there is a "life ethic", ie this is not just an anti-abortion movement and that quote from Deuteronomy makes it clear as they so often cite it. "I have set before you life and death" You know the one. So what is this broad and pervasive life ethic and its manifestation in a Culture of Life. Otherwise stop calling this a pro-life movement. It is just anti-abortion. Period. So maybe it is just a bunch of deceitful people we are talking about and not "hypocrites". YOU choose. FWP. On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: Good answer :) What are you talking about? To repeat my original, and as yet unanswered question, what has that got to do with non-Catholic prolifers? Even atheist prolifers? You called me and all other prolifers hypocrites. That was the basis of my question. It had nothing to do with "Culture of Whatever". Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 4:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Ask the Vatican what it has to do with pro-lifers as their front man keeps using the expressions "Culture of Life" vs. "Culture of Death" on his global sod-kissing expeditions. FWP. On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- What the hell has that got to do with pro-lifers? Not all of us are Catholic, nor even Christian, Ken Kesey being one very famous example. But any Christian who supports abortion is self-obsessed, not self-professed. And God doesn't get fooled. Tara A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
In a message dated 00-04-08 20:04:52 EDT, you write: Joshua 2 wrote: I think we should send the Miami Cubans back where they came from. I'm sick of them and their fascist bullshit. This doesn't sound very liberal. These bastards need to learn that democracy and anti communism are not the same thing. Democracy = Communism They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws are against them. Error ... WE live in a Republic. How can you prove the majoroty and the laws are against them? If they can't deal with that I would be willing to donate some money for rafts, and point them due south where they would get the wellcome they deserve back in the old country. Boycott Miami until they leave. Seems to me the same offer was made to send slaves back to Africa, is that your politics? Do you think ex-Cubans have no right to be here? Do you support Castro? Are you a Communist? And, why are you afraid to use your real name? Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Dear FWP: Sorry but you must understand that few Americans know anything about what is going on in the great country of Canada. Culture of Life on Vancouver Island? Please define as I was ignorant. We get little news about Canada here. Sincerely, a former Canadian from Kennedy, Sask. Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Solutions: Adopt a pig.
In a message dated 00-04-08 16:21:14 EDT, you write: 4/8/00 There is no good reason that the rich should enjoy their lives at the expense of everyone else. Form a group. Adopt a pig in your neighborhood. And commence to make his/her life miserable until they repent, commit suicide, or go insane. Joshua2 Now that idea makes more sense than all this stuff about this Cuban kid. I would love to march around with a sign that says "EAT SHIT" in front of the asswipe that runs the company I work for. It would be even more fun to walk there carrying an AK-47 hung on my shoulder, maybe then the little bastard would think twice about sending my job to Mexico. And if there were all 1,200 of us carrying the same equipment ... he would probably never come out of the house, even with his 2 bodyguards. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IMPORTANT!! Clinton Replaces Sec. of Defense w/ Atty. Gen in Domest (fwd)
Source: White House Press Releases http://www.whitehouse.gov/library/ThisWeek.cgi?type=pdate=1briefing=4 THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate ReleaseApril 7, 2000 April 6, 2000 MEMORANDUM FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT THE SECRETARY OF STATE THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE THE SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY THE SECRETARY OF VETERANS AFFAIRS ADMINISTRATOR, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE DIRECTOR, FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY AFFAIRS ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR, UNITED STATES INFORMATION AGENCY CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF DIRECTOR, FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION DIRECTOR, UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE SUBJECT: Designation of the Attorney General as the Lead Official for the Emergency Response Assistance Program Under Sections 1412 and 1415 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1997 (Public Law 104-201) (the "Act") Under sections 1412(a) and 1415(a) of the Act, the Secretary of Defense is responsible for implementing the Emergency Response Assistance Program, commonly known as the "Domestic Preparedness Program," to provide civilian personnel of Federal, State, and local agencies with training and expert advice regarding emer-gency responses to a use or threatened use of a weapon of mass destruction or related materials, and for testing and improving the responses of such agencies to emergencies involving chemical or biological weapons and related materials. Under the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including sections 1412(a)(2) and 1415(d)(1) of the Act, I designate the Attorney General to replace the Secretary of Defense as the lead Federal official with responsibility for carrying out these programs. These designations are effective October 1, 2000, and constitute designations pursuant to sections 1412(a)(2) and 1415(d)(1) of the Act. The Attorney General is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register. WILLIAM J. CLINTON ### P.S. If you are interested in a FREE high-speed DSL internet service provider, and/or a FREE $200 DSL modem, then register AND DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (i.e., registration alone WON'T GET IT DONE) at: http://i.winfire.com/s/isapiEng.dll/wf.exe?cmd=rl508,120031685wf.exe OH, and you've only got till the 30th of this month to get it done. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re:Pope letter (fwd)
--- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re:Pope letter (fwd) If he is saying he is sorry about the rotten messs of this "lunatic world" as Stephen Lewis called it, then so am I. So are you. So is everyone else. I don't think he said anything more than that which has merit. Do you? FWP. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:07:59 -0700 From: Jud Cyllorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:Pope letter FWP, Just a little I did for the pope. A number of newspapers printed it. Jud C. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/936/1/_/564407/_/955241732/ What would a complete society be like if it were to "do all for the glory of God"? (I Corinthians 10:31). What would Canada be like if it were a "Godly Society" functioning in this manner? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against euthanasia. And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf. And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the 'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we could reach one. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites Pro-lifers will tell you there is a "life ethic", ie this is not just an anti-abortion movement and that quote from Deuteronomy makes it clear as they so often cite it. "I have set before you life and death" You know the one. So what is this broad and pervasive life ethic and its manifestation in a Culture of Life. Otherwise stop calling this a pro-life movement. It is just anti-abortion. Period. So maybe it is just a bunch of deceitful people we are talking about and not "hypocrites". YOU choose. FWP. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
I'm Canadian, and I've never heard of it, so don't feel to badly :) Tara (near Ottawa, Ontario) -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Huffman Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites Dear FWP: Sorry but you must understand that few Americans know anything about what is going on in the great country of Canada. Culture of Life on Vancouver Island? Please define as I was ignorant. We get little news about Canada here. Sincerely, a former Canadian from Kennedy, Sask. Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. "Protecting" means what? Just keeping people alive? FWP. We are active against euthanasia. And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf. And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the 'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we could reach one. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites Pro-lifers will tell you there is a "life ethic", ie this is not just an anti-abortion movement and that quote from Deuteronomy makes it clear as they so often cite it. "I have set before you life and death" You know the one. So what is this broad and pervasive life ethic and its manifestation in a Culture of Life. Otherwise stop calling this a pro-life movement. It is just anti-abortion. Period. So maybe it is just a bunch of deceitful people we are talking about and not "hypocrites". YOU choose. FWP. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
In a message dated 4/8/00 7:58:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against euthanasia. The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death penalty...intellectually inconsistant IMHO. I tend to think that anti-choice or anti-abortion are better descriptions... Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] U.S. a Rogue State? Fits the profile.
I wish you Canadians would get together with the rest of the world and throw the U.S. out of the U.N. Yes, the United States is out of control. Why in God`s name are you putting up with us? Just wait till the American people refuse to pay their U.N. taxes enmass. I bet that will really piss you all off!! Best wishes to our northern brothers, and anyone else who believes in SOVERIGNITY. May the U.N. fail soon. P.S. If you really want to hurt our feelings, get the U.N. headquarters out of the U.S. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
pro-tect , v.t. to shield from harm; guard; shelter; a, a lightning-rod protects a building against fire from lightning.--adj. pro-tec-tive.--n. pro-tec-tor Apply that to lfe and that's what it means. You're always sidetracking from the point of my answers and questions. You called all prolifers hypocrites. That's what we were discussing. To refresh your memory: And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf. And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the 'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we could reach one. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. "Protecting" means what? Just keeping people alive? FWP. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] global gag rule
Gentlemen: When the pro-abortionist were pushing for legal abortions they alleged that 5,000 women died each year from unsafe abortions. Dr Bernard Nata- son who was then an ateistic Jew and pro-abortion, did not believe that number. There just weren't any records that would prove it. He thought it was unfair for the Catholics to be singled out as the only anti-abor- tionist. In his book The Aborting of America, one day while shaving he said to himself, "Natan, you have presided over the death of 60,000 bab- ies". For an atheist to have such a sense of justice about the above, made me love that in him. Beware, these aborted babies are crying out at the throne of God not for mercy but for justice! Sincerely, Don Huffman 600,000 union soldiers died in the civil war to end slavery! Let us not forget that a God of mercy is also a God of justice. -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against euthanasia. Are you equally active against the blockade of Iraq which has killed over a half million people so far, almost all of them women and children? If not, you're a hypocrite. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How it's done. American corporations have a long sordid history of...
In a message dated 00-04-08 10:09:53 EDT, you write: Seasoned security experts are deeply concerned. Al Santoli, a senior adviser to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, California Republican, and one of the most informed China experts on Capitol Hill, points to a recent joint CIA-FBI report to Congress on Communist Chinese espionage that says, The Chinese government continues to seek influence in Congress through various means, including inviting congressional members to the PRC [Peoples Republic of China], lobbying ethnic Chinese voters and prominent U.S. citizens and engaging U.S. business interests to weigh in on issues of mutual concern. There should be a law preventing other governments from buying our government. The US government is supposed to belong and support the concerns of American citizens. There is something very wrong here, cooked congress people should be removed from office for accepting bribes. The intelligence report appears to refer to elder statesmen with decades-long business ties to Chinas Communist leaders and to corporate giants such as the Boeing Co., Chrysler Corp., General Motors and Motorola that have made an indelible mark on the China-policy debate. When American business lobbied Congress on China policy in the past, one could believe that corporate America was not doing Chinas bidding but rather was protecting its own interests, writes Mann. With the lobby campaign against reaffirming the U.S. security relationship with Taiwan, he argues, this distinction is not so clear anymore. Corporations are not persons and cannot vote legally, they also should be prevented from voting illegally with money. They should not be allowed to lobby at all. Seduced by visions of selling consumer products to 1 billion Chinese, many business figures, including former national-security leaders who built personal relations with Communist officials, have moved from simply pushing policies that would increase trade with China to becoming, in effect, agents of influence for the Beijing regime. One of the most prominent is Boeing, the civilian jetliner manufacturer and Pentagon contractor. With potential 12-figure Chinese aircraft orders at stake, Boeings concern is understandable, as some of its critics admit. Beijing has exploited that concern to the hilt. If the company doesnt deliver political influence for the Communist government, Boeing chief international strategist Lawrence Clarkson told the Seattle Times in 1996, were toast. To ensure its 70 percent share of the Chinese airliner market, Boeing, in cooperation with other similarly motivated companies, pushed hard not only for Congress annually to renew most favored nation, or MFN, status for China, but to change the way the people of the United States view the corrupt one-party regime. What bullshit, the Communist Chinese already make nearly everything we buy. They do not make enough money to buy US goods, just another thing like Japan, we buy their products, but they place a tariff on out products that is so high, a normal person cannot afford to buy them. And why pray tell should we open our borders and pocketbooks to a communist country, who violate rights of their own citizens, much as a Fascist regime would do? I say tell the commie chinese to stick it. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] global gag rule
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: When the pro-abortionist were pushing for legal abortions they alleged that 5,000 women died each year from unsafe abortions. Dr Bernard Nata- son who was then an ateistic Jew and pro-abortion, did not believe that number. One is too many. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: But I also cannot agree that this ionly about his dad. It's not only about this family and it's not only about Cuba. There are, according to ABC news, over two hundred American children currently involved in similar custudy disputes in foriegn countries. If America doesn't treat the Gonzales matter fairly and return Elian it loses the moral high ground in those cases and those American children stand a much lower chance of making it home. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Maybe I'll retract and call you simple deceivers (more polite than liars). So all you want to do is protect people in the sense of keep the vital signs going. NO WONDER THE ABORTION RATE IS SO HIGH!! Who would want to bring a child into your world with no notion of QUALITY of Life. YOU are the cause of the abortion industry. Hanoi Jane was right. FWP. On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: pro-tect , v.t. to shield from harm; guard; shelter; a, a lightning-rod protects a building against fire from lightning.--adj. pro-tec-tive.--n. pro-tec-tor Apply that to lfe and that's what it means. You're always sidetracking from the point of my answers and questions. You called all prolifers hypocrites. That's what we were discussing. To refresh your memory: And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf. And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the 'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we could reach one. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. "Protecting" means what? Just keeping people alive? FWP. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/8/00 7:58:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against euthanasia. The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death penalty...intellectually inconsistant IMHO. I tend to think that anti-choice or anti-abortion are better descriptions... So they aren't even pro-life in the narrow sense of anti-killing. And when you ask them what their life ethic translates into by way of a lifestyle they flee like cockraoches before the light. You have to attend a lot of church services to acquire a mentality like that. FWP. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pope Most Important Socialist in the World Says Gorbachev
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[CTRL] Fwd: Kosovo, ReaganBush, and the New World Order (1/2)
Hawks and Eagles: "Greater NATO' Flies to the Aid of 'Greater Albania' Diana Johnstone Excerpts: The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) was the group chosen to organize a Kosovo 'Verification' Mission (KVM). In Western Europe, objections to the expansion of NATO have tended to take refuge in proposals to strengthen the alternative OSCE which, unlike NATO, involves Russia and indeed all European countries except, since 1992, Yugoslavia. Early suspicions in some pro-OSCE circles, confirmed by later events, suggested that this assignment was used largely to DISCREDIT the OSCE as a viable "alternative" to NATO. Although the champions of OSCE had always seen it as less US-dominated, THE US PUT ONE OF ITS OWN "DIRTY WAR" SPECIALISTS, WILLIAM WALKER, IN CHARGE OF THE KVM. The "verifier" force never approached 2,000, and it was widely assumed that many of the "verifiers" were agents of various NATO intelligence services, especially US military and civilian intelligence. WALKER'S MAIN "DIPLOMATIC" EXPERIENCE WAS IN ASSISTING THE CONTRAS IN THEIR COVERT WAR AGAINST THE SANDINISTAS. This was good background for cooperation with the KLA -- the only "liberation" movement in the world which enthusiastically calls for NATO bombing of the territory it is out to conquer. In mid-January, Walker himself broke the fragile peace his force had been sent to solidify by endorsing the KLA version of events in the village of Racak. Walker's condemnation of a "Serbian massacre," which many believe (and on the basis of solid evidence) was a propaganda set-up -- arranging battlefield dead to give the APPEARANCE of an execution, discredited the KVM as a neutral observer. The war against Yugoslavia has been sold to the public as a humanitarian necessity when in reality it is a political project. For the Albanian leaders, the purpose was always clear: "Greater Albanian" rule over Kosovo ... Veton Surroi, publisher of the Kosovo Albanian newspaper Koha Ditore, FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED BY THE SOROS FOUNDATION, is favored as the West's choice for the President of "independent" Kosovo ... The leading role of the Albanian lobby in the Clinton campaign's "Ethnic Outreach" program is striking, as is the absence of any Serbian lobby. One can assume that this is not because there are no Americans of Serbian origin in the United States, but because Serbs identified totally with the victorious Allied side in both world wars; many considered themselves Yugoslavs first and foremost, and if they opposed Tito, the changes they hoped to see in Yugoslavia were political and democratic, not a reshaping of the Balkans with help from the U.S. Superpower. In contrast, Croatian exile groups in particular nursed dreams of restoring the fascist Ustashe "Independent Croatian State," which had existed only during World War II thanks to the occupation and dismantling of Yugoslavia by Germany and Italy. In 1993, it was reported that "Croatia has built up the most effective lobbying and public relations network on Capitol Hill since the Israeli lobby." Croatian lobbying, congressional investigators reported, "could well exceed $50 million." Culturally, there is little in common between Croats and Albanians. But BOTH CROATIAN AND ALBANIAN EXILES NURSED THE HOPE OF RESTORING THE FASCIST STATE THAT HAD EXISTED ONLY THANKS TO THE AXIS POWERS DURING WORLD WAR II. Denouncing the anti-fascist Serbs as "Communist oppressors" was a sure-fire formula for winning support from American politicians. A key role in the joining of the anti-Serb forces was played by a young aide of Republican Senator Dole, Mira Radievolic Baratta. Within the "small circle of those who monitor U.S. policy toward the Balkans," The Weekly Standard reported in 1995, "her influence and her expertise are widely recognized." Richard Perle, [an ex-Reagan official] who advised Dole on behalf of Bosnian Muslims at the Dayton peace talks, says that "other than Richard Holbrooke, Baratta has been the most influential individual in shaping U.S. policy in Europe." Baratta began working for Dole in June 1989 and in May 1995 received the "Award for Excellence in Politics" from the "National Federation of Croatian Americans" -- [a front for those nostalgic for the days of the fascist Ustashe]. In a bastion of ignorance, Baratta easily became the congressional expert on the Balkans. Baratta has "as good an understanding of the Balkans as anyone on Capitol Hill," The Weekly Standard reported admiringly. Baratta's fans include the most hawkish veterans of the Reagan-Bush administration -- U.N. Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick, Assistant Secretary of State Richard Perle, and Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger. Caspar Weinberger, whose name is synonymous with [ CIA-partner] Bechtel, is described as "the most hawkish on the Balkans." Bechtel has already been selected to
[CTRL] Fwd: Project Censored 1999 [3/3]
"[Labor issues] are off-limits to the media," says Conn Hallinan, journalism professor at the University of California at Santa Cruz. [The suppression of union activity at Avondale] isn't just a single isolated instance but is emblematic of what happens to workers generally in the United States when they try to organize a union -- an activity supposedly protected by federal law. "There's never recognition of any conflict between workers and employers. The mainstream media don't talk about this because that might lead to a discussion of class -- which is still considered akin to communism." Project Censored 2000: RUNNERS-UP San Francisco Bay Guardian, April 5, 2000 Project Censored's other selections for 1999 11. America's largest nuclear test exposed thousands. Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair, Counterpunch, Terrain; Jeffrey St. Clair, In These Times. 12. Evidence indicates no prewar genocide in Kosovo and possible U.S./KLA plot to create disinformation. Mark Cook, Covert Action Quarterly; staff, Progressive Review; Pablo Ordaz, El Pais. 13. U.S. agency seeks to export weapons-grade plutonium to Russian organization linked to organized crime. Jeffrey St. Clair, In These Times; Jeffrey St. Clair and Alexander Cockburn, Counterpunch. 14. U.S. media ignores humanitarian aspects of famine in Korea. Ramsay Liem, Peace Review; Yuh Ji-Yeon, Peace Review. 15. Early puberty onset for girls may be linked to chemicals in the environment and increases in breast cancer. Marcia E. Herman-Giddens, Eric J. Slora, Richard Wasserman, Carlos Bourdony, Manju V. Bhapkar, Gary Koch, Cynthia Hasemeier, Environmental Health Monthly. 16. Media distorts debate on affirmative action. Robert Entman, News Watch; Linda Jue, News Watch. 17. World Bank's resettlement program displaces millions. Lori Pottinger, World Rivers Review. 18. California convicts and punishes teenagers as adults. A. Clay Thompson, San Francisco Bay Guardian. 19. Bacterium in cow's milk may cause Crohn's disease. Lisa Chamberlain, Cleveland Free Times. 20. IMF and World Bank contributed to economic tensions in the Balkans. Michael Chossudovsky, This. 21. Vatican's U.N. status challenged. Laura Flanders, Ms. 22. United States and Germany trained and developed the KLA. Wayne Madsen, The Progressive; Michel Chossudovsky, Covert Action Quarterly. 23. International conference sets world agenda for peace. Robin Lloyd, Toward Freedom. 24. U.S. nuclear weapons controlled by unstable personnel. Ken Silverstein, Mother Jones. 25. U.S. military trains soldiers to kill and eat tame animals. D'Arcy Kemnitz, The Animals' Agenda. __ LABOR: THE REAL CENSORED STORY by David Bacon San Francisco Bay Guardian, April 5, 2000 In 1992 immigrant drywall hangers went on strike from Santa Barbara to the Mexican border, halting southern California home construction for almost a year. They defied police and border patrol agents, even shutting down freeways at rush hour to stop the Immigration and Naturalization Service and highway patrol from harassing caravans of picketers. And at the end of it all, they won. Over the following years, immigrants mounted strike after strike, involving hundreds, and sometimes even thousands of workers, on construction projects, in huge foundries and tortilla factories, among truckers in the Long Beach harbor, and in sweatshops from downtown Los Angeles's garment district to the Pomona barrio. The impact of this upsurge has been profound. It has changed the demographics of California's labor movement, giving immigrants a new voice and propelling activists into leadership of some of the state's largest and most important unions. But despite its profound impact on the economic and political life of California and the rest of the country, this working-class upsurge has gone largely unrecognized and unreported by the mainstream press. "It's really not even on their radar screen," says Susan Alva, staff attorney for the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights in Los Angeles. The attitudes behind this lack of coverage are widespread in the press. They affect not only media outlets themselves but also progressive media critics and watchdogs, such as Project Censored, based at the California State University campus in Sonoma County. While some alternative publications did cover the immigrant worker upsurge, from the LA Weekly and the now defunct LA Village View to The Nation and Labornotes, none of those stories was considered censored by Project Censored judges and included in its nationally touted list, issued every year. "Unions are off-limits to the media," says Conn Hallinan, journalism professor at the University of California at Santa Cruz. Project Censored has as
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Perhaps there is something that many people do not understand, something I have only come to understand in the past couple of years, the human side of this political argument. I have three good friends who are female and two of them had abortions many years ago that affect them now. One is a devout athiest (if you can be devout) and had an abortion when she was 17 years old. She didn't think much about it until she married and had her first child. Since then she has been troubled by this abortion. She feels as if she is a murderer and although she went to a counselor for several years, she can't seem to shake that feeling. She turned to alcohol to ease her pain. Her husband divorced her and although her children are now adults, they don't speak to her. I guess you could say that abortion ruined her life. She can't keep a job, she really hates herself. I've talked to her literally hundreds of times and this is always on her mind. I've also wondered if she would have had a problem with this if there weren't so much publicity about it. Another lady I know had an abortion when she was in her early twenties. She was in college and wanted to finish, thought it would be too hard if she had to take care of a baby. She married in her mid-thirties and wanted to raise a family. She couldn't get pregnant and finally went to the Doctor and found she couldn't have children because the abortion she had ten years or so earlier had not been performed correctly. Until then she didn't know anything was wrong. She divorced her husband, thinking he deserved a family, and that she couldn't please him. When I met her she was going to therapy. She had trouble holding a job, at least a good one. Rather than using her marketing degree, she was working in an electronics assembly plant. Last time I saw her she was beginning to drink more than normal and I heard from her she was still depressed and was having a hard time finding and keeping a job. Another friend of mine admitted that she got pregnant when she was 15. She married the guy that got her pregnant, then divorced him six weeks later when he beat her so bad she had to spend a couple of days in the hospital. I got that feeling that she was also going to be a loser, but she still seemed normal after we went out together for over three months. She finally invited me to her home. She introduced me to her two sons and we played a little baseball till it got dark. Later that night a young lady came in the house and my girlfriend introduced her as her daughter. I was very surprised, apparently she didn't get an abortion, I just assumed she did since she was so young and her "husband" was such an asshole. She was the most "together" lady I had ever met. She later told me it was hard going to high school after having the baby, not to mention finding someone that wanted to date her at that age, but she came through all this adversity smelling like a rose. Because of these personal experiences I often wonder if an abortion fouls a woman's life, or (abortion or not) maybe these other women were just weak. Or, does having an abortion make a woman weak, even years after it happens? Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nature vs. Nurture
Deaf Student Hopes to Lead Others Away from Homosexuality By Cristin Kellogg The Washington Times A former Gallaudet University student talked about the high degree of homosexual involvement among deaf people at a recent conference for former homosexuals. Now attending the Evangelism Training Center, a Bible school for deaf students in Oklahoma City, Okla,. Matthew Lieberman, 24, spoke about how he left homosexuality at a "Truth That Will Set You Free" conference at the Carnegie Institute. It was sponsored by Parents and Friends Ministries, a group for former homosexuals. Mr. Lieberman was born deaf, and "the homosexual community is the one that embraced and accepted him," said his mother, Carol Lieberman. "My experience with Matthew has caused me to have a great love toward homosexuals. They are in a bondage they really did not choose to be in." For years, however, Mr. Lieberman did not see his lifestyle as "bondage." Although he has dealt with homosexual desires since he was 10, it was not until he attended the prep school at Gallaudet University during the 1991-92 school year that he was able to act them out. "I had a total of four gay room-mates," he said in an e-mail interview. If I wanted to contact homosexual friends, I could. I eventually got involved in a deep relationship with my best friend. "D.C. has a very open gay community Gallaudet does not force anyone into the gay life, but they do encourage it " After he graduated from Model Secondary School for the Deaf, the prep school, in the spring of 1994 and prepared to enter the university as a freshman, his family got wind of his lifestyle and ordered him to move off campus. His grandmother had seen an interview with former homosexual activist Anthony Falzarano on C-SPAN and suggest that Mr. Lieberman contact him. Mr. Lieberman was not too keen on the idea. The ex-homosexual therapy meetings he attended in the District were for hearing people only, and he was quickly bored. Still, "I knew what I was doing was wrong," he said. "I was looking for love in all the wrong places, and I knew I would never be fully happy inside until something changed." A year later, he finally left Gallaudet, the world's only university for the deaf, which has 2,000 students. Posted about the stately, well groomed campus at Florida and West Virginia avenues in Northeast are numerous notices of campus events, including some for homosexual student groups and awareness programs. "We are accepting of everybody," said university spokesman Mike Kaika. "We understand this is not a deaf utopia, but we are trying our best to make everyone aware of others' beliefs and backgrounds in a comfortable setting." At a recent campus colloquium featuring D.C. psychotherapist Christopher Vaughan, about 25 people listened to him speak on "Management of Unconscious Conflict in Young Gay Males: I Am What I Am." Mr. Vaughan, ho is homosexual, talked about announcing one's same-sex preference. "The tricky question is whether or not a person has come out to their family," he said. "For some, it is traumatic to look at parents and see yourself in a difference way. Others may be completely OK with it." Also listening to him were four faculty members who stated that they, too, are homosexual. Most staff and student queries were on the timing of one's announcement to family members. "I go against mainstream media in saying that there are times when a person should not disclose that he or she is homosexual," said Mr. Vaughan. "If an individual's state of mind or well-being are at risk, I say wait." Mr. Lieberman says he zigzagged between homosexual practice and abstinence until he attended a retreat for deaf Christians in 1998. What moved him most was a drama about Adam and Eve. "There I realized I wanted to be a godly man," he said. "I realized that in this life we only have two choices: Choose God or our own way." He became a born-again Christian that September weekend and, a year later, decided to join the same Oklahoma City drama group that had so moved him during the retreat. "I did not leave the gay life for the heck of it (but) I left because I want to follow God," he said. "I trust Him to put changes in my life as time goes along." He has now become an activist for ex-homosexual causes, a major theme at the March 31-April 1 conference. Speaking at the gathering will be the Rev. John Harvey, founder of Courage, a group for homosexual Catholics who wish to leave the lifestyle. Also on the docket is Charles Socarides, a pioneer in "reparative therapy," a controversial psychological method geared toward getting patients to leave homosexuality. A New York psychoanalyst, he is president of the Encino, Calif.-based National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality and is also involved in preparations for the American Psychiatric Association's annual meeting in May in Chicago where reparative therapy is
[CTRL] New Weather Modification Research Papers By Dr. Bernard J. Eastlund
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 14:59:07 -0700 From: Colleen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: Fwd: New Weather Modification Research Papers By Dr. Bernard J. Eastlund To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SIGHTINGS New Weather Modification Research Papers By Dr. Bernard J. Eastlund The use of satellites, HAARP and microwave frequencies to manipulate and control severe weather patterns is Science reality. © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com 3-31-00 Borderland Sciences has recently received two very significant research papers authored by Dr. Bernard J. Eastlund: http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/HPEMRAD/Eastlund.htm SYSTEMS CONSIDERATIONS OF WEATHER MODIFICATION EXPERIMENTS USING HIGH POWER ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION, Published in Proceedings of "Workshop on Space Exploration andResources Exploitation-Explospace," 20-22 October, 1998, Cagliari, Sardinia, Italy. MESOCYCLONE DIAGNOSTIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THUNDERSTORM SOLAR POWER SATELLITE CONCEPT, Published in the Proceedings of "The Second Conference on the Applications of RemoteSensing and GIS for Disaster Management," January 19-21, 1999. Some of the highlights contained in these reports are: * HAARP* MISSLE SHIELD ANTENNA (terrawatt phased array antenna)* NORTH SLOPE GAS CONCEPT WEATHER MODIFICATION* OZONE HOLE MITIGATION EFFECTS* HIGH POWER SOLAR SATELLITES FOR WEATHER MODIFICATION* POWER RELAY IONOSPHERIC MIRRORS* INTERVENTION IN TORNADO GENESIS* SAFETY Dr. Eastlund stressed safety as a foremost consideration and stated: "Since so much reaction has accompanied the HAARP project, which is to be rated at 3.6 Megawatts cw, compared to the 100 Megawatts to 1 terrawatt of the initial North Slope Gas Concepts idea base, it is clear that international cooperation and disclosure must be obtained for future high power antenna applications no matter how benificial they seem." "Fortunately, this TSPS (Thunderstorm Solar Power Satellite) concept is not part of the military or the government and there is an opportunity to discuss it, and discard it if that is the best thing to do." Also, in the first paper, Dr. Eastlund stated, "The public must be involved in the development of the concept from the start...the public itself must want to accept the risks involved." These papers are published here in the interest of public viewing and evaluation. Many thanks to Dr. Eastlund for permitting us to post these here and for his openness to publish these documents. Dr. Bernard Eastlund's website: http://www.eastlundscience.com http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/HPEMRAD/Eastlund.htm --- End of forwarded message --- Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Life and Libertarians Beyond Left and Right
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html Subject: Life and Libertarians Beyond Left and Right http://www.counterpunch.org/ April 3, 2000 Life and Libertarians: Beyond Left and Right By Alexander Cockburn I got an invitation to speak a couple of months ago from an outfit called antiwar.com, which is run by a young fellow called Justin Raimundo. "Antiwar.com is having its second annual national conference March 24 25, and we'd like you to be the luncheon speaker," Raimundo wrote. "The conference will be held at the Villa Hotel, in San Mateo (near the airport). The theme of the conference is 'Beyond Left Right: The New Face of the Antiwar Movement.' We have invited a number of speakers spanning the political spectrum. Confirmed so far: Patrick J. Buchanan, Tom Fleming (of Chronicles magazine), Justin Raimondo (Antiwar.com), Kathy Kelly (Iraq Aid), Alan Bock (Orange County Register), Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), representatives of the Serbian Unity Congress, and a host of others." Raimundo seasoned his invite with a burnt offering, in the form of flattery, always pleasing to the nostrils: "All of us here at Antiwar.com are big fans of your writing: we met, once, at a meeting during the Kosovo war where you bravely took up the fight for the united front left-right alliance against imperialist war. We can promise you a small honorarium, a lunch, free admission to all conference events -- and a good time." As a seasoned analyst of such communications, my eye of course fell sadly upon the words "small honorarium" a phrase that in my case usually means somewhere between $l50 and $350. I'd already noted that even though our task was to transcend the tired categories of left and right, I was the only leftist mentioned, with the possible exception of Kathy Kelly, from that splendid organization, Voices in the Wilderness, which campaigns to lift the UN sanctions on Iraq. Being a libertarian Justin had boldly added the prospect of a "good time". Leftist invitations rarely admit this possibility in formal political communications, even in the distant days when the left supposedly had a lock on drugs and sex. I said I'd be happy to join in such an enterprise, and in due course got some angry e-mails from lefties who seem to feel that any contiguity with Buchanan is a crime, even if the subject was gardening and Dutch tulipomania in the seventeenth century. "Dear Alexander Cockburn: I read with horror that you are speaking at an event (the Anti-War.com conference) where Pat Buchannan is the keynote speaker. How could you knowing that PB's policies are what could only be called fascist? I generally agree with your opinion on imperialism, and supported your view of Seattle. However speaking at an event which will amongst other things help to give Mr. Buchanan respectability, is unconscionable. I hope you will reconsider. If not, we will probably be able to greet each ohter, when you cross our picket line. Dean Tuckerman P.S. I am a member of Anti-Racist Action Bay Area." "Dear Dean, thanks for yr note. So far as Buchanan is concerned, I assume he was invited because he opposed the war in Kossovo, and calls for the lifting of sanctions against Iraq. There is a lot that's funky abt American isolationism, but frankly, I don't mind sharing a conference schedule with someone who opposes war on Serbs and on Iraqi kids. Nor do I think B is any more of a fascist -- in practical terms -- than Albright and Clinton and Gore and Bradley, with the first three literally with the blood of millions on their hands. Go find Mailer's interview with Buchanan in Esquire a few years ago. See you on the picket lines. Best Alex Cockburn" I pondered what to wear, deciding finally on a t-shirt advertising the Fully Informed Jury Association, a group upholding the powers of the jury to set aside the law and rule as the jurors' understanding of the case and their consciences dictate. FIJA is also anathema to lefties, who equate juries with redneck juries in the south in the early l960s. It's useless to point out to them that northeastern juries were overturning laws and setting fugitive slaves free long before the Civil War, or that an all-male jury supported Susan B. Anthony's right to vote, only to be overruled by the judge. If a judge screws up, lefties don't call for the abolition of judges. But let one jury come in with an unwelcome verdict, as with Diallo, and you'll hear mumbles that the jury is as Michael Lind so memorably put it after the OJ decision, "a barbaric Viking relic". At the last minute Barbara said the Villa Hotel is relatively swanky and a T-shirt might not cut it. I grudgingly switched to white shirt , chose the 67 convertible as properly defiant of the auto-safety lobby and headed south from Berkeley. Barbara was right. This
[CTRL] NWO Microchip Technology
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 06:23:50 -0700 From: watcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: NWO Microchip Technology To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] re: microchip implants - this series of articles, posted on Watcher's Millennium Apocalypse http://www.mt.net/~watcher/new.html Patent: programmable subcutaneous visible implant for person or animal http://www.crossfields.com/~watcher/markofbeastimplantpatent.html The Trouble With Digital Angels - Raider's Commentary on Applied Digital's microchip company http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/digitalangels.htm Destron Animal Tracking Chips MERGE w/ Digital Angel Human Tracking http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/000306/mn_destron_1.html "Destron Fearing is the pioneer and developer of syringe injectable, miniaturized microchip technology for injection under the skin of animals." http://www.destronfearing.com "Applied Digital Solutions http://www.adsx.com has recently acquired the patent rights to a new technology that we believe will revolutionize e-business security, emergency location and medical monitoring. That technology has been named Digital Angel. http://www.digitalangel.net "The Digital Angel transceiver can be implanted just under the skin ... When implanted within the human body, the transceiver is powered electromechanically through the movement of muscles. It can be activated either by the "wearer" or by a remote monitoring facility. The device also can monitor certain biological functions of the human body - such as heart rate - and send a distress signal to a monitoring facility when it detects a medical emergency. " --- End of forwarded message --- Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Dear Bob: Thanks for your observations. We men need to take a stand against abor- tion. The pro-abortion people do not tell the side you have told about how abortion affect a women who is created to norish life and not de- stoy life. They are not telling about the botched abortions that lead to sterility or the deaths that have occured. And there are witnesses to the fact that many women have died from "safe, legal" abortions. Any one out there see and hear Sara Smith, a surviver of an aborted twin pour out how she knew something was wrong and how her mother suffered from the guilt? Men let us not deceive ourselves. Men want abortion mostly to get out of the consequences of their actions. Sincerely, Don Huffman Bob, thank you indeed! And let us be merciful to women who have had abortions. Let them know that whatever we do God will forgive us no matter what we do if we are sorry. Jesus most certainly would have for- given Judas if he would have repented. I think these women you wrote about have hung on the cross enough and should turn this matter over to God's infinite mercy! ` -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Kosovo, ReaganBush, and the New World Order (2/2)
Hawks and Eagles: "Greater NATO' Flies to the Aid of 'Greater Albania' by Diana Johnstone cont'd Although KLA leaders were not enthusiastic about this agreement either, the United States apparently obtained their consent by promising a privileged role for the rebel gunmen as military partners of the United States. Eliminating the Alternative It is preposterous to suggest that there was no alternative to unconditional surrender of Yugoslavia to CIM and COMKFOR. It would have taken time to work them out, and bringing the intransigent KLA into the negotiations made matters vastly more difficult. But that intransigence was largely the result of their certitude that they ultimately commanded full United States and NATO support. During the time needed for a peace process, the presence of truly neutral peacemakers could have played a constructive and indispensable role. Last October 12, Richard Holbrooke got Belgrade to allow 2,000 "verifiers" to enter Kosovo to monitor compliance of the Yugoslav side only with a cease-fire the KLA had never been obliged to keep. This was already an extreme oddity: a one-sided cease-fire, in which the legal police of a country agrees not to pursue armed groups which, whether called "liberation army" or "terrorists," had been murdering citizens for well over a year and showed no inclination to stop. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) was chosen to organize this Kosovo Verification Mission (KVM). In Western Europe, since the demise of the 1980s peace movement, objections to the qualitative and geographical expansion of NATO have tended to take refuge in proposals to strengthen the OSCE which, unlike NATO, involves Russia and indeed all European countries except, since 1992, Yugoslavia. Early suspicions in some pro-OSCE circles, confirmed by later events, suggested that this assignment was used largely to discredit the OSCE as a viable "alternative" to NATO. Although the champions of OSCE had seen it as less U.S.-dominated, the U.S. put one of its own "dirty war" specialists, William Walker, in charge of the KVM. The "verifier" force never approached 2,000, and it was widely assumed that many of the verifiers were agents of various NATO intelligence services, in particular U.S. military or civilian intelligence. Walker's "diplomatic" experience in assisting the Contra guerrillas to mount a spoiling war against Sandinista Nicaragua was good background for cooperation with the KLA, the only "liberation" movement in the world (so far) which enthusiastically calls for NATO bombing of the territory it is out to conquer. In mid-January, Walker himself broke the fragile peace his force had been sent to solidify by endorsing the KLA version of the extremely controversial events in the village of Racak. Walker's hasty and unquestioning condemnation of a "Serbian massacre," which many believe (and on the basis of solid evidence) was a propaganda set-up, arranging battlefield dead to give the appearance of an execution, discredited the KVM as a neutral observer. Some of the resulting dissension within the OSCE has come into public view. In particular, the German vice-president of the OSCE, Christian Democratic Bundestag member Willy Wimmer, called the KVM a "fairly hopeless mission" because some people "apparently did not at all want it to succeed." Who? "For instance, those who are behind the UCK and pull the strings." Wimmer said that the international OSCE observers had unambiguously agreed that the Yugoslav side had kept to the October cease-fire agreement, while the UCK had "systematically evaded it" and engaged in provocations. Asked by Deutschlandradio Berlin whether he considered the NATO military assault a mistake, Wimmer answered: "I personally consider it a very big mistake. And I am in agreement with the OSCE parliamentary assembly, which with a majority of nearly 90% has repeatedly stated that military engagements can be undertaken only with a mandate from the United Nations Security Council. "However, the interests of the United States and Britain were diametrically opposed to us." "Greater Albania" to "Greater NATO" The war against Yugoslavia has been sold to the public as a humanitarian necessity, when in reality it is a political project. For the Albanian leaders, the purpose was always clear: Albanian rule over Kosovo, not "human rights" and certainly not "peace." Veton Surroi, publisher of the leading Kosovo Albanian newspaper Koha Ditore, financially supported by the Soros Foundation and the National Endowment for Democracy, is often mentioned as the West's dark horse to be President of "independent" ethnic Albanian Kosovo. He was a member of the Albanian delegation that signed the Rambouillet war agreement with the U.S. and the EU. He told the New York Times a week later that when he signed, he "also accepted that there would be
[CTRL] Medieval zoo found at Tower of London
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/04/09/stinwenws01043.html April 9 2000 BRITAIN Richard Brooks Arts Editor EXCAVATION work beneath the ramparts of the Tower of London has revealed new evidence of a medieval menagerie which held an extraordinary array of animals. A dig under the Lion Tower and new research in royal, cathedral and university archives have produced proof that 100 different species were once housed within the walls of the palace. Bones of rhinoceroses, antelopes and tigers have been discovered, as well as the skins of snakes and alligators. The remains of ostriches, brought by sailing ship from Africa, have also been found. The huge flightless birds died after they were fed nails because their keeper thought that iron was good for them. One was found with 90 nails in its throat. The menagerie was founded during the Crusades in the reign of King John (1199-1216), and was closed in 1835 when London Zoo opened in Regent's Park. Never bigger than the size of a "largish suburban garden", according to researchers, the Tower zoo stood beneath what is now the West Tower, near the Thames. "Most of the early animals came through kings and some queens of Europe exchanging gifts," said Rory Browne, professor of history at Harvard University and the author of several books on menageries. "The king of Norway sent his polar bear to Henry III in about 1250 and the elephant, a year or so later, was from a French monarch, who in turn had taken it from the Middle East." The elephant walked from Kent to the capital, but died after it was plied with wine to keep out the cold. The polar bear fared better, swimming and living off fish in the Thames. A zebra also made its way to the Tower and was regularly ridden by a young boy as it paraded around a tiny yard. "Sometimes animals had been captured in wars," said Browne. "Captive lions, in particular, really appealed to kings. After all, the king himself was the arch beast." Hence Henry III, during whose reign the Tower zoo was substantially built up, had three lions on his coat of arms. It is an emblem that has lived on, decorating flags and even the shirts of England football players. Some lions became closely linked with the lives of their owners. A lion which Queen Elizabeth I named after herself died within days of the monarch's own death. Baiting of the animals was commonplace. James I and Henry III took the most sadistic interest in "their zoo", clearly loving to goad or kill animals. Salt and pepper were put into the wounds of injured bulls to increase their pain, while elephants were fed broken bottles. Commoners joined in the baiting - visitors who took their cat or dog to the zoo and fed it to the lions did not have to pay the entry fee. Geoffrey Parnell, the Tower's chief archivist, said: "It was clearly London's longest-running show, which entertained both royalty and commoners for centuries." The first known Tower keeper was William de Botton, who ran the zoo from 1243. In its early years the menagerie's keeper was a nobleman, reflecting its importance to the monarchy. In the 15th century men as eminent as the 13th Earl of Oxford and Sir Robert Brakenbury served as keepers. But by the 16th and 17th centuries the zoo's management had been taken over by different generations of the Gill family from Essex. The menagerie was important in Europe because of its uninterrupted longevity. Other zoos were set up by kings in France, but tended not to last because of the more unstable state of the country. At the Tower, itself a symbol of English royalty, the zoo was maintained largely because of the great interest of successive monarchs. Only Oliver Cromwell tried to close it. He failed, but did manage to stop some of the particularly excessive baiting. Not until the early 19th century did people begin to question cruelty to animals. Dr Hilda Keene of Ruskin College, Oxford, the author of several papers on animal cruelty, said: "Up to then many people took a perverse delight in simply being cruel to them. Until a couple of hundred years ago there was also no notion of an animal possibly having a soul." John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, used to go to the Tower zoo to play his flute to the lions to see whether they had souls. With the abolition of slavery, a debate began about the treatment of animals. In 1822 the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals was set up and shortly afterwards, spurred by the realisation that the creatures needed more space, the Tower zoo closed. Its animals were sent to London Zoo or shipped to America. Although experts had been aware of the existence of the zoo, the excavations, partly financed by BBC2's Timewatch programme, have revealed extraordinary details of the historic animal residents of one of
Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Dear Tara: Kennedy, Saskatchewan is 14 miles south east of Kipling. "True places are never on the map". Herman Melvill. Birthplace: Sec. 20, Tp. 13, Rge. 3, W. 2 Thanks for your reply! Sincerely, Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
I believe that the United States government purposely left Sadam in power. I believe that they could have taken him at anytime. I don't support the blocakade of the Iraqi nation. But I do support a blockade of the Iraqui government. They killed more people than have died during the blockades. Remember the hundreds of thousands of Kurds who were murdered by Sadam. Some questions have no true answers. Yours is one of them. I guess the best I could give is no. Children come innocent into this world and no one has the right to kill them. And in this case there is so much smoke and mirrors by all of the governments involved and the wonderful U.N. that I don't think any of us knows where the real blame lies. I am not active as I once was. I've realized that the agendas are so imbedded in our society that even mentioning you are pro life or a Christian marks you suddenly as someone who should be attacked. That's the deepest conspiracy of them all. And the one that frightens me most. Are you as concerned about the women and children who are being and have been slaughtered in Yugoslavia because they are Christians as you appear to be about those in Iraq? What are you doing about it? You know what? I've discovered that bitching and complaining about the agendas are the best any of us can do. And we watch the world become more blinded to the truth, and we every day become bigger targets. And so I guess that we're all pretty useless then. But I pray that what I know, will always be what I know, and that I won't become part of the conspiracy. And I'll always stand up and speak for what I believe, no matter what little good it does. I'm not a hypocrite and I'm tired of being insulted because of my beliefs. I do the best I can. And that's all anyone can ask. And I'm not going to discuss abortion anymore. People become very cruel when they find out you're pro-life or Christian. This list has pointed that out to me very clearly. The only reasonable responses against my position have come from Bill Shannon. At least he hasn't insisted on name-calling. But tough. It's what I believe and you're not going to change that. Tara nessie wrote: Are you equally active against the blockade of Iraq which has killed over a half million people so far, almost all of them women and children? If not, you're a hypocrite. Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: Maybe I'll retract and call you simple deceivers (more polite than liars). So all you want to do is protect people in the sense of keep the vital signs going. NO WONDER THE ABORTION RATE IS SO HIGH!! Who would want to bring a child into your world with no notion of QUALITY of Life. YOU are the cause of the abortion industry. Hanoi Jane was right. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
So then, call me anti-abortion. But then you have to agree to call the opposing side pro-abortion. It only makes sense. A rose, by any other name would smell as sweet :) Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death penalty...intellectually inconsistant IMHO. I tend to think that anti-choice or anti-abortion are better descriptions... Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] global gag rule
I Hate to Break the "News" to you Dear, But, the Total Abortions jn one year alone - Just for America is over 5,000,000 Abortions. Then take the figues from around the world and add them to ours. That is Nothing to be proud off. The Holocost numbers were only 6,000,000. After all the data that proves the "feotus" is indeed a "person" especially the "photo" of the little hand reaching out of a cizarian (sp) section - Murder is Still Murder in My Book. Not to mention The "Pro-Abortionists) as also Pro Mercy Killings. Thanks for your time. ~ Mike ~ - Original Message - From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "global gag rule" [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: When the pro-abortionist were pushing for legal abortions they alleged that 5,000 women died each year from unsafe abortions. Dr Bernard Nata- son who was then an ateistic Jew and pro-abortion, did not believe that number. One is too many. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
