[CTRL] Fwd: EIPS - The Conspiracy Behind The European Union: What Every Christian Should Know

[Aleisha Saba]

This is very interesting item give or take a few lies.this man
believes
EU is a fascist order as do I.

As a  protestant he sounds like an Ian Fleming liviong in terror of IRA
and the Pope.

I believe the Catholic Church and Church of England who were divorced
will someday unite once again in marriage, this Order of the Lily and
the Rose - and this is what many people fear; howevre, I am in favor of
such a movment and marriage for we must think of the children?

Then the Moslems feel as I do about teaching sodomy to their children,
and so do the jews but then why does the ADL promote sodomy for
Christian Children.

Strange isn't it - only the ADl keeps  preaching sodomy for the children
of America and I wonder do they push this in heir synagogues?

Good story here - lots of truth  -  but this EU
 will do the job Hitler tried to do and face it, this AIDS is the
genocidal depopulation program for our humanitarians with whips have to
look good, right?

Saba

Good item.if you can pick the truth keeping in mind the conspirators
their intent is to destroy all religion including all jews, moslems and
christians and presumably now even the zen buddits are in
trouble.now is Saudi Arabia they still heap brick walls on sodomites
when convicted - heaps of bricks.




http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=conspiracy

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On 27 Jun 01, at 15:55, Kris Millegan wrote:

 And if a flame is stupid then why does it need any response?

 Ironic? eh?

The stupid flame also included disinformation that needed to be corrected.
eh?

Steve


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[CTRL] FOX: Condit Broke Off Friendship with Levy, Sources Say

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Condit Broke Off Friendship with Levy, Sources Say

Wednesday, June 27, 2001

By Rita Cosby
FOX News


Washington, D.C.  - Rep.  Gary Condit broke off his close friendship
with missing intern Chandra Levy only two days before she disappeared, the
congressman told investigators, according to Fox News Channel police
sources.

Condit, D-Calif., provided the new details about his relationship with Levy
in a second, hour-long interview with police Saturday, but stopped short of
saying whether he and the 24-year-old Levy had a romantic relationship, the
sources said.  Condit did, however, strongly hint that the two had been
lovers, the sources said.

Condit, 53 and married, has repeatedly said through public statements that
he and Levy were only good friends, with his staff denying there was a
romantic relationship.

When Condit delicately broke things off with Levy with the explanation that
she was moving back to California, she was extremely disappointed and
distraught, refusing to take no for an answer and even becoming obsessed
with him, the sources said.

Levy called Condit several times on a special line in the 24 hours before
she vanished, but he never returned those calls, the sources said.

Levy's parents, Susan and Robert Levy of Modesto, Calif., have hired former
Washington homicide detectives to scour their daughter's Washington studio
apartment for fibers, love letters, notes, and any other clues that could
help them find out what happened to their daughter, who has not been seen
since April 30.




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[CTRL] SMWS: Private dicks search toss intern's apartment; FOX: Condit Broke Off Friendship with Levy, Sources Say

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Private dicks search toss intern's apartment

Wednesday, June 27, 2001


By MICHAEL DOYLE
Scripps-McClatchy Western Service


Private investigators scoured the Washington apartment of missing intern
Chandra Levy on Tuesday, as the nationwide search proceeded on multiple
tracks.

While the private eyes started from scratch, police have been broadening
their own inquiries to include a wider circle of Rep.  Gary Condit's
friends and acquaintances.

FBI agents working with Washington police, for instance, have already
interviewed a flight attendant who'd come to know Condit.  The woman's
Seattle-based attorney, Jim Robinson, acknowledged in an interview with the
Sacramento Bee on Tuesday that the questioning has taken place, but
declined to offer other details.

My client is a private individual, and would like to remain a private
individual, Robinson said.

The FBI's questioning of Condit's flight attendant acquaintance, who had no
known connection to Levy, epitomized the apparently widening inquiry now
under way.  Separately, Fox television news cited an anonymous police
source as claiming that police now also hope to interview Condit's wife
Carolyn.

Carolyn Condit lives most of the year in the small Stanislaus County town
of Ceres, but was staying in Washington with her husband the week of April
28 through May 3.  Levy was last seen April 30.
According to Condit's attorney Joe Cotchett, Levy had tried four or five
times to phone Condit to say goodbye in the days before she disappeared.

Reached Tuesday night, Condit's chief of staff Mike Lynch said he had no
information to offer about the status and nature of the police inquiries.
In a statement issued last week, Condit pledged again to provide whatever
information I could to help police find Levy.

Washington police have repeatedly said they do not consider Condit a
suspect in the disappearance of Levy, whom the congressman described in a
written statement as a great person and a good friend.
Through his staff, Condit has denied having a romantic relationship with
the former Bureau of Prisons intern; he has repeatedly declined to answer
reporters' questions about the matter.

Condit has talked to police twice in person, the latest time for an hour on
Saturday, as part of what police say is an effort to better understand
Levy's lifestyle and state of mind.

He's not under investigation; he's not a suspect, Executive Assistant
Police Chief Terry Gainer reiterated Tuesday, adding that Condit was
sharing as much as he thought he could with us during the Saturday
interview.

Condit had his newly hired Washington attorney, Abbe Lowell, present during
the weekend interview with police.  It is not clear how many other of the
100-plus individuals interviewed by police and FBI so far have likewise had
attorneys present during questioning.

The official police investigation into what is still called a critical
missing-persons case has been under way since Levy's worried father called
the weekend of May 5-6.  A much more recent investigation is also gathering
steam, conducted by two former Washington homicide detectives working for
Levy's parents.

Private investigators Dwayne Stanton and Joseph McCann, hired by the Levys'
Washington attorney Billy Martin, made their second visit Tuesday to the
apartment complex Levy called home for eight months.
Accompanied by their own video camera operator, the investigators for the
first time got inside Levy's third-floor studio apartment.

The investigators videotaped the white walls, the gray carpet, the
floor-to-ceiling window overlooking 21st Street.  They peered inside the
closet-turned-desk space, where Levy tapped out late-night e-mail messages
on her laptop computer, and they scanned the platform bed stuffed snugly in
an alcove.

And, the investigators checked out the door locks and eyehole that the
security-conscious Levy was known to use religiously.  Safety was important
to Levy and to her parents, one of Levy's landlords said Tuesday, and this
priority became apparent from the first time Levy saw the apartment.

She really wanted (the apartment,) but she first wanted her parents to see
it, because they were concerned for her safety, recalled the landlord,
speaking on condition of anonymity.

The landlords now live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and once worked for
former North Coast congressman Doug Bosco.  They had considerable fixing up
to do once the Washington police had finished with the apartment after
being called in to find Levy.  The carpet had been yanked up; black
fingerprint dust was everywhere and a carpenter was needed to repair some
of the damages.

The whole place was upside down, one landlord said.

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Re: [CTRL] Seven Daily Posts to CTRL

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Why Steve that is what you called them Secret UFO Underground
Basesone of these secret bases my brother in law set up?

Now we had Ezekials Wheels so UFO's are nothing new, but if you go into
the 50 period you will see that once a special UFO show was put on for
the White House?

Now heliocopters how long have we had these - they hover and hold and go
sideways, and up and down and etc.These things are antiques.

Again let me say this Steve - these huge missile systems locaated in
Silos, area all underground - now they have found a secret base in
Kentucky.

Secret?   Well maybe 14 millon masons can keep a secret by just not
talking about something - for loose lips it was said, sunk ships?

And no Steve I am not 82 yethave a way to go..and yes Steve, I
did meet John F. Kennedy, actually twice and I met RFK and rode on a
press bus with the big boys, including Mike Wallace when Johnson was
President.and I dined with John Glenn at big banquet and sat an
entire day with a young Saudi Arabian Prince - my sister dined at a
table with 15 othr people with the Prince of the notorious Bilderberger
Netherlands for that bunch is just high class Chambe of Commerce, and my
other sister associated with many famous people you read about in
history books - and once my words were quoted by Harry Truman who always
asked how those little ..girls were.and I have some matches
off his plane and a cigarette lighter (Ronson as I recall) with the
presidential seal on it, given to this man who got it from Dwight David
Eisenhower and gave to me.
So I have been around the block and have met a lot of people some of
whom others would think oh so important and my brother in law was
CIA/Joint Chief os Staff Stuff and set up Vandenberg and last
assignement worked with von Braun who stayed at their home at Redstone
on two different occasions.

So yes I met JFK and he was blood relation through his mother.

I come from a big family that kept reoords, but I am just a researcher
who worked with an MI6 for 12 years, and was friend to anotehr Colonel
in MI6 for these people somehow always seem to be around..my
goodness Steve,  in Viet Nam war these UFO's were used to tip off the
enemy our planes were returning to Viet Nam after loading up at Red
Stone and in Georgia?

During War Time - many people kept secrets by just not talking about
what they had seen or witnessed.

At this time we are virtually alone in our space..we may have to go
to the other side of Venus to find life...as for life on Mars, the
press was suckered in on that one, for I have story dating back to 1963
of the stones which fell from Mars at the Arctic cirle.

Enough said Steve - I have an IQ of 145 and as a result have always held
posts to important people.and worked with some very well known
peoplenot an insider, just a researcher and I might add this best
seller author, who was MI6 and I have this in a letter said I was the
best researcher she had ever encouontered plus a little psychic ability
at times paid off big bucks Steve.

Saba aka Colleen

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[CTRL] Federalist: FOR THE RECORD

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http://www.federalist.com/current/fedbrief-01-26.html


FOR THE RECORD


Sen.  Fred Thompson's list of the 10 most egregious examples of the central
government's fraudulent and wasteful use of your confiscated income.

For some time now, our government has been mismanaged to an extent that
the average American would find shocking.  The federal government's core
management problems have persisted for years, and, in fact, have grown
worse. -- Sen.  Thompson

1.  THE BIG DIG -- Boston's Central Artery -- is the most expensive federal
infrastructure project in the nation's history.  Its cost continues to rise
and now is estimated at $13.6 billion, an almost 525 percent increase from
the original $2.6 billion.

2.  ABUSING THE TRUST OF AMERICAN INDIANS -- The Department of the Interior
does not know what happened to more than $3 billion it holds in trust for
American Indians.  A judge overseeing this case called it fiscal and
governmental irresponsibility in its purest form.

3.  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT -- There is widespread
agreement that the Department of Defense finances are a shambles.  It
wastes billions of dollars each year, and cannot account for much of what
it spends.

4.  NASA MISMANAGEMENT CAUSES MISSION FAILURES -- In spectacular example
after example, NASA lost billions because of mismanagement of some of its
biggest programs.  The cause of the Mars Polar Lander failure, for example,
was that one team used English measurements (inches, feet, and pounds) to
design and program the vehicle, while another used metric measurements.

5.  MEDICARE WASTE, FRAUD, AND ABUSE -- Medicare wastes almost $12 billion
EVERY YEAR on improper payments.  It misspent that $12 billion last year
from the fee-for-service part of Medicare alone, which was about 7 percent
of the total fee-for-service budget.  The amounts wasted on improper
Medicare payments would go a long way toward funding a prescription drug
benefit or other program enhancements.

6.  SECURITY VIOLATIONS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY -- The department does
not adequately safeguard America's nuclear secrets.  In just one case, an
employee was dead for 11 months before department officials noticed that he
still had four secret documents signed out.

7.  IRS FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT -- The IRS manages its finances worse than
most Americans.  The agency does not even know how much it collects in
Social Security and Medicare taxes.  GAO found significant delays --
sometimes up to 12 years -- in recording payments made by taxpayers.

8.  VETERANS AFFAIRS PUTS PATIENT HEALTH AT RISK -- The Department of
Veterans Affairs' inspector general found that [a hospital's food service]
shares the loading dock with the Environmental Management Service's
hazardous waste containers.  Dirty Environmental Management Service and red
biohazard carts were located next to the area where food is transported to
the kitchen.

9.  BILKING TAXPAYERS OUT OF STUDENT FINANCIAL AID -- Federal student aid
programs are rife with fraud and abuse.  A cottage industry of criminals
advise people on how to cheat to get federal loans and grants.  In one
case, scam artists passed off senior citizens taking crafts classes as
college students who qualified for federal Pell grants.

10.  UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE FRAUD -- A Las Vegas, Nev., man illegally
collected at least $230,500 in fraudulent unemployment insurance benefits
from four different states between September 1996 and November 1999.  He
set up 13 fake companies and submitted bogus claims based on false reported
wages for 36 nonexistent claimants using the names and Social Security
numbers of dead people, and then collected the claims by mail from
California, Massachusetts, Texas and Nevada.



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[CTRL] NM: Rogergate Partners Implicated Prez in China Deal, Says Witness

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Newsmax-Inside Cover
Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:31 p.m.  EDT

Rogergate Partners Implicated Prez in China Deal, Says Witness


A witness familiar with a company owned by former first brother Roger
Clinton says he was told ex-President Clinton was not only aware of his
brother's business relationship with Beijing - he helped arranged it and
had a financial stake in the profits.

They told me right off the bat that Bill Clinton made arrangements with
the Chinese when he was over there for his brother to be their principal
agent in the United States, said Mississippi construction executive R.V.
Wilson on Sunday.

In 1998 and 1999, Wilson says he met with Roger Clinton's business partners
Dickey Morton and George Locke, who together formed CLM LLC (Clinton, Locke
and Morton).  Over the course of one four-hour luncheon meeting, Morton
outlined CLM's plans to import building materials from Communist China and
tried to interest Wilson in investing in the project.

In an exclusive interview with WABC Radio's John Batchelor and Paul
Alexander, Wilson claimed he was told during the meeting that President
Clinton had personally endorsed CLM to Chinese officials, a move that would
have all but guaranteed the success of CLM's China venture.

ALEXANDER: Dickey Morton told you that Bill Clinton had arranged for his
brother, Roger, to be his - oh, let's say, informal ambassador to China?

WILSON: Yes.  ...  It would be very difficult for a man off the street to
go to China and start buying things.  But if you went in there with the
recommendation of the president of the United States, then the market would
have been open for you and [the Chinese] would have dealt with you.

Later in the interview, Wilson claimed he was told the former president had
a financial stake in Roger Clinton's company.

ALEXANDER: R.V., in these meetings that you're having with Morton and with
Locke, did they ever talk about Bill Clinton as well?

WILSON: Oh, yes.  They called him Bill.

ALEXANDER: And what did they say about him in these meetings?

WILSON: Oh, about how he was doing everything he could to help get Roger
set up.  And that they were partners in this business and all of that.  ...

BATCHELOR: Now, one thing, R.V.  In your discussions with them about the
building materials, did they ever indicate that any of this money was going
to be going to Bill Clinton as well as Roger Clinton?

WILSON: Absolutely.

ALEXANDER: Wow!  R.V., say what?

BATCHELOR: Wait a minute.  Hold on.  Let's review again.  What did they say
about where the money you were going to make was going?  They said it was
going to them at CLM but was there money going to Bill Clinton also?

WILSON: The money that I was going to make was going to go into my pocket.

BATCHELOR: Right.

WILSON: The money they were going to make was CLM.  And they told me that
we've got this organization and blah, blah, blah, blah.  We've got our
credit cards, you know.  And here they go.

ALEXANDER: Did they tell you that Bill Clinton would participate in their
profits?

WILSON: No.  They didn't say that Bill Clinton was participating.  But let
me say this.  I was told, before the money was sent, that, for instance,
one day Lynn [Garland Lincecum] came by and he needed some money because
Mr.  Morton had called him and said that Roger was upset.
He wanted that money now because Bill needed it to pay some girl or
something in Little Rock or somewhere.  A judgment had been made against
him and he needed that money now.

Although Wilson seemed unaware of the details, in April 1999 U.S.
District Court Judge Susan Webber Wright cited President Clinton for
contempt of court for lying in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case,
fining him $90,000.

It's not clear whether prosecutors in the office of U.S.  Attorney for New
York's Southern District Mary Jo White, who is probing pardon-peddling
allegations against Roger Clinton, are interested in Wilson's story or
whether CLM's financial records bear any part of his account out.

In April of this year, the Wall Street Journal's John Fund told Fox News
Channel that investigators had uncovered CLM bank accounts worth a total of
$30 million.  Ed Hayes, attorney for key Rogergate accuser Garland
Lincecum, said in May that the amount of money run through CLM accounts
totaled in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

It is believed that the Internal Revenue Service has launched an
investigation into CLM, which could implicate both Clinton brothers, if
what Wilson said Sunday can be documented.

CLM LLC was dissolved in late 1999.

On Monday, former White House political guru Dick Morris confirmed one
aspect of Morton and Locke's account to Wilson, saying that Roger Clinton
had virtually unfettered access to his brother during his presidency.

He could get Bill on the phone anytime he wanted, Morris told Fox News
Channel's Bill O'Reilly.  O'Reilly was a bit taken aback by the news.

O'REILLY: Anytime?

MORRIS: That's right.

O'REILLY: So Bill 

Re: [CTRL] Seven Daily Posts to CTRL

[Steve]

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Prove just one thing for us, Saba. Send us a scan of your matches from
Truman's  plane and the cigarette lighter with the Presidential Seal, and I
will forever stop characterizing you privately as 'our favorite Internet
psychotic.' Then I just might start believing you are a psyop agent.  You say
you don't have access to a scanner?  ;-)

Steve

On 28 Jun 01, at 2:39, Aleisha Saba wrote:

 Why Steve that is what you called them Secret UFO Underground
 Basesone of these secret bases my brother in law set up?

 Now we had Ezekials Wheels so UFO's are nothing new, but if you go into
 the 50 period you will see that once a special UFO show was put on for
 the White House?

 Now heliocopters how long have we had these - they hover and hold and go
 sideways, and up and down and etc.These things are antiques.

 Again let me say this Steve - these huge missile systems locaated in
 Silos, area all underground - now they have found a secret base in
 Kentucky.

 Secret?   Well maybe 14 millon masons can keep a secret by just not
 talking about something - for loose lips it was said, sunk ships?

 And no Steve I am not 82 yethave a way to go..and yes Steve, I
 did meet John F. Kennedy, actually twice and I met RFK and rode on a
 press bus with the big boys, including Mike Wallace when Johnson was
 President.and I dined with John Glenn at big banquet and sat an
 entire day with a young Saudi Arabian Prince - my sister dined at a
 table with 15 othr people with the Prince of the notorious Bilderberger
 Netherlands for that bunch is just high class Chambe of Commerce, and my
 other sister associated with many famous people you read about in
 history books - and once my words were quoted by Harry Truman who always
 asked how those little ..girls were.and I have some matches
 off his plane and a cigarette lighter (Ronson as I recall) with the
 presidential seal on it, given to this man who got it from Dwight David
 Eisenhower and gave to me.
 So I have been around the block and have met a lot of people some of
 whom others would think oh so important and my brother in law was
 CIA/Joint Chief os Staff Stuff and set up Vandenberg and last
 assignement worked with von Braun who stayed at their home at Redstone
 on two different occasions.

 So yes I met JFK and he was blood relation through his mother.

 I come from a big family that kept reoords, but I am just a researcher
 who worked with an MI6 for 12 years, and was friend to anotehr Colonel
 in MI6 for these people somehow always seem to be around..my
 goodness Steve,  in Viet Nam war these UFO's were used to tip off the
 enemy our planes were returning to Viet Nam after loading up at Red
 Stone and in Georgia?

 During War Time - many people kept secrets by just not talking about
 what they had seen or witnessed.

 At this time we are virtually alone in our space..we may have to go
 to the other side of Venus to find life...as for life on Mars, the
 press was suckered in on that one, for I have story dating back to 1963
 of the stones which fell from Mars at the Arctic cirle.

 Enough said Steve - I have an IQ of 145 and as a result have always held
 posts to important people.and worked with some very well known
 peoplenot an insider, just a researcher and I might add this best
 seller author, who was MI6 and I have this in a letter said I was the
 best researcher she had ever encouontered plus a little psychic ability
 at times paid off big bucks Steve.

 Saba aka Colleen



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[CTRL] NYT: Truth, Sex, Lies and Videotape

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/opinion/27DOWD.html

The New York Times
June 27, 2001

LIBERTIES

Truth, Sex, Lies and Videotape

By MAUREEN DOWD


WASHINGTON - When I covered the brutal psychodrama of Clarence Thomas and
Anita Hill that ferocious week in October '91, I used to wake up in the
middle of the night haunted by the mystery of who was telling the Big Lie.
How could we put someone on the Supreme Court for life without knowing?
But everyone was playing to win, so the truth never really entered into it.

Now, a decade later, David Brock, a right-wing hit man who was in league
back then with the Bush White House, steps forward to talk about truth and
lies.

The journalist now says he lied then when he painted Anita Hill as a liar,
a woman who was a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty, both in an
American Spectator piece and a best seller embraced by conservatives called
The Real Anita Hill. And he says he lied then when he helped the Bushies
and conservatives portray Clarence Thomas as truthful, calling himself a
witting cog in the Republican sleaze machine.

His former conservative allies say that Mr.  Brock is lying now in his
apologia, contained in a book called Blinded by the Right: The Conscience
of an Ex-Conservative, to be published in September and excerpted in
August's Talk magazine.

I had stumbled onto something big, Mr.  Brock writes, a symbiotic
relationship that would help create a highly profitable right-wing Big Lie
Machine that flourished in book publishing, on talk radio, and on the
Internet throughout the 90's.

The '91 hearings turned on the Republican effort to smear Anita Hill as an
erotomaniac while suppressing reports popping up from Judge Thomas's
friends and supporters that he was often a patron of X- rated movie houses
while a student at Yale Law School in the early 1970's, and that he would
sometimes humorously describe the pornographic movies to his friends and
colleagues, just as Ms.  Hill had testified he did with her.

To that end, Senator Orrin Hatch said it was unthinkable that Judge Thomas
could ever have discussed Long Dong Silver and other porn with her, because
anyone who would do that would be a psychopathic sex fiend or a pervert.

Judge Thomas agreed that he would never approach anyone I was attempting
to date as a person with this kind of grotesque language.

After he ascended to the Supreme Court, two friends of mine, Jill Abramson
and Jane Mayer, wrote a book called Strange Justice that reported that,
when he worked with Ms.  Hill, he regularly rented adult movies at
Graffiti, a local video shop stocked with Long Dong Silver movies.  In the
book, Kaye Savage, a former career civil servant in the Reagan White House
and social friend of both Clarence and Anita, said she visited Mr.
Thomas's bachelor apartment in the summer of 1982 and saw explicit photos
of nude women.

Mr.  Brock writes in Talk that he tried to discredit Strange Justice in a
Spectator review with the help of Justice Thomas and the White House.
According to Mr.  Brock, he used as an intermediary a Bush White House
lawyer named Mark Paoletta to ask Justice Thomas if he had owned video
equipment in the early 1980's.  Paoletta, Mr.  Brock writes, came back
with a straightforward answer: Not only had Thomas had such equipment in
his apartment, he had also often rented pornographic movies from Graffiti
during the years that Hill worked for him.

Mr.  Brock writes that Thomas passed along, through Paoletta, unverified
embarrassing personal information about his friend Kaye Savage that
Thomas claimed had been raised against her in a divorce proceeding.  .  .
.  Thomas was playing dirty, and so was I.

Justice Thomas had no comment.  Mr.  Paoletta told The Times that he had
not confirmed to Mr.  Brock that Mr.  Thomas rented or watched pornography,
and said that Justice Thomas did not ask me to pass along any derogatory
information about Kaye Savage. And Ms.  Savage told The Times that Mr.
Brock had either got it from Clarence or he got it from Anita, and Anita's
my friend.

A column last week said that Representative Gary Condit was one of the few
Democrats to vote for the impeachment of Bill Clinton; Mr.  Condit voted in
favor of opening the impeachment inquiry, but in the end voted against
impeachment.

Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company


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Re: [CTRL] Seven Daily Posts to CTRL

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The matches are in a security box - they are white with red writing
saying Swiped from Harry Truman..I have a huge portrait of Truman
autograhed to my mother,  which my one sister got her.   I do not have a
scanner and in my possession here in my home, I do still have the
lighter and my picture John Glenn autographed and so did Annie for me,
and a personally autographed picture from Teedy Kennedy and picture of
RFK not autographed given to me at same time, but RFK dead and this was
when Teddy wrote to Jean Dixon's boss and told him to keep his name and
the name of his family out of her column or else.now only Columbia
University reported this in writing.''

I have no scanner and I do not give a god damned if you believe me or
not.   I have a fax, or maybe could even send you a picture of Truman
and the lighter and my one Hells Fire Club Hogath which is over 200
years old, of the boys who were English Illuminati.

I do not have to prove anything this is a conspiracy theory
list..check with Mark Lane who stole my bible code and used in his
book and sked where he got it for I had it copyrighted in 1969 and want
a copy of that too Steve

I was told by a University Professor at Ohio State that I had a
manuscript that anobody else could write, but me;  one major reason
those who knew what I did were sworn to secrecy.

A bible code calendar is no proof  but merely a calling card as to who
did what - but prove it.

Want a picture of what I have here I imagine I could send a picture
through the mail for the portraint of Truman is much too large to run
through machine - it is his official portrait.

Had beautiful portrait of John F. and Jackie Kennedy in color - a very
special portrait given to me by friend which was stole when my house was
broken into in 1972.along with other items.

Can show you copies of letters from Sybil Leek on her own special
stationary and envelopes..and oh so many letters, some I never got
back when she died..

You say prove something to you - I do ot have to prove anything to
anybody but I would send you a picture of my brother in law when he was
CO at Clark Field with the little pygmies and Phil have picture (copy of
) him with Glen Miller  right day or so before he disappeared.

Got lots of stuff Steve which will go to my kidspicture of me with
Prince Faisal and Lyndon Johnson..should have have had my picture
with Glenn but somehow to make this request seemed just a little
hickish?

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[CTRL] WND: Airline pilots watch documentary in horror

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http://www.dxmarket.com/worldnetdaily/products/V0028.html



TWA 800 controversy heats up Airline pilots watch documentary in horror

On a warm June evening in Kansas City, the historic home of TWA and the
current site of its huge overhaul base, a group of 75 or so airline pilots
watched the documentary Silenced: Flight 800 and the Subversion of
Justice in stunned horror, writes filmmaker Jack Cashill in WorldNetDaily.

Afterwards, not a one among them, either publicly or privately, challenged
the video's thesis that TWA Flight 800 had indeed been shot down, he
writes. Offered instead were corroborating details, particularly from angry
TWA pilots, about the money trail and the inexplicable Pentagon visits of
then TWA CEO Jeff Erickson.  Said one TWA pilot: 90 percent of us believe
there was a government cover-up.

Cashill says the fifth anniversary of the TWA Flight 800 disaster on July
17 presents the last great opportunity to share this story with a
mainstream media that definitely does not want to hear it.  If the
overwhelming public response in the last two weeks is any indication, this
is one story that may well from the bottom up.

If you want to be out front on this one, make sure you have seen Jack
Cashill's amazing video documentary, Silence: Flight 800 and the
Subversion of Justice, available exclusively at the WorldNetDaily online
store.





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Re: [CTRL] TIME Magazine: When Did AIDS Begin? --PA

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] TIME Magazine: When Did AIDS Begin? --PA


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 On 26 Jun 01, at 2:17, Aleisha Saba wrote:

  For your information asshole (*) in 1963 when this little
  kid was dying form toluene poisoning, his mother worked as manage of a
  dry cleaning establishment and the key ingredient in the fluid is
still,
 ? toluene...

 Get your facts straight Saba. Or do you just like to resort to juvenile
name
 calling? How old are you anyway Saba, 83?

 Toluene is not typically used for dry cleaning. Perchlorethylene is the
most
 common dry cleaning chemical, (not that perchlorethylene is not a
 potentially hazardous chemical, especially when breathed in a closed
 atmosphere. It is also believed to be a probable carcinogen. But there
are
 non-hazardous alternatives. )

Insted, Toluene is nail pollish remover and airplane model glue (i.e., a
common plastics solvent).

Unless things in the dry cleaning industry have changed A LOT since I was
in college, Carbon Tetracloride is what is used in the the industry.

On second thought, however, I guess the dry-cleaning industry very well may
have changed over the last 20 years (to less hazardous solvents) because
Carbon Tet *IS* extremely toxic, an extreme bio-envirinmental hazard
(i.e., EXTRELY expensive to dispose of ... or recycle?), and carcinogenic??

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[CTRL] Chamish: explanation/apology

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- Original Message -
From: Barry Chamish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:07 PM
Subject: explanation/apology


I MUST EXPLAIN

by Barry Chamish


Hello my wonderful correspondents;

 I've had WAY too many complaints about my previous posting; remember,
the one with the long indictment against Peres by a Cambridge legal
organization? I thought I made it clear that I viewed the document more
humorously than anything else. The joke was that the British elite couldn't
care less about left/right, Sharon or Peres, they just plain hate Israel. I
didn't think any one would take their contorted brief seriously, but people
did. And people even thought I wrote it.

 Of course, I didn't. I was exposing the British elite's mentality
towards Israel through it. But I guess I just didn't make my point well.
Okay, I'm sorry to all who misunderstood my intentions. There is a plus
side to all this; it seems a lot of far leftists read the brief and it has
deeply tarnished Peres' image in their eyes.

 I can only make it up to you my usual way; with a balancing article.
This time it's NOT by me. It's by the respected novelist and commentator
Gary Showalter. Allow me to stress, this time, no mixups, I am not
responsible for its contents. But unlike last time, I DO support them.

 And as long as we're here, why don't we update the information that
has come in this week;

 - The Versailles Ballroom Collapse: After a month, no commission of
inquiry has been formed. The families of the victims are shouting coverup.
On the day of the memorial ceremony for the dead wedding party, a roof
collapsed in an Ashkelon school. This time, the building was almost empty
but the timing of the potential disaster was eery. Why? Because the
Versailles collapse makes no engineering sense. This was not an entire
building which gave way to pressure, only the central floor caved in on the
fourth level. So why didn't the floor on the third level stop the falling
people and debris? Or why not the 2nd storey floor, or even the first? Why
did everything and everyone fall to the very foundations of the building?
The authorities are blaming the Pal-Cal flooring system when it has never
collapsed before. But that excuse is crumbling as fast as the dance hall
floor in the wake of one question: one floor may collapse under the weight
of the wedding guests but how do FOUR floors give in one after another?
Unless there is a logical engineering answer to be found, the issue of
sabotage is going to take over.

 - The story of the Shabak's closing of the Haredi newspaper Kol Ha'ir
before it was to publish the names of two of Rabin's murdered bodyguards
continues to expand. Previous to the closure, one Amnon Noibach visited the
publisher and warned him to lay off Peres. The publisher, Asher Zuckerman
refused and the paper's backer was mortally threatened. He backed out of
his commitments and Kol Hashavuah closed down for a month.

   During that time, Noibach, whose daughter is Israel Channel One news
reporter Karen Noibach, raised over a million dollars to found a rival,
less politically dangerous haredi newspaper, Mishpacha. To buy his silence
over his filming of Shabak inciter Avishai Raviv's criminal activities, a
policeman, Yehuda Miller, was given an enjoyable job as the new paper's
photographer.

 - A very interesting response to my recent posting about Avraham
Burg's trip to Washington and the anticipated CFR funds about to come his
way to make a run for top office: The informant reports, When Burg was
head of the Jewish Agency, a frightening policy change took place: the
Russian offices eliminated scrutiny and permitted anybody who applied to
immigrate to Israel to move there. We didn't understand what he was doing
letting in organized crime, white slavers, and alcoholics who had no Jewish
ties at all. Some of the immigrants were real Jew haters. Now we believe
his policy was purposeful and its intent was to dilute the Jewish character
of Israel through mass immigration of very shady gentiles.

 - I'm being harassed and it's heating up. Two months ago, the Income
Tax Authority placed liens on my house and car, claiming I owed $80,000 in
back taxes. At great expense, I hired an accountant who found serious
discrepancies and pleaded my case to them. They eliminated the principle
but insist that I pay fines totally $3,500. The fight goes on. Yesterday I
had two more injustices thrown at me. The City Of Jerusalem sent a
messenger, whom my wife insists tried to sneak into the house, with a note
threatening to cut off my water and abscond with my property unless I pay a
bill on a property I sold in 1990. That's right, eleven years ago. Of
course I could not legally have sold the property unless all bills to the
municipality were paid off in the first place. One clerk told me by phone
that she'd never seen anything like this before. She added 

[CTRL] NYT: Brock Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill

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http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/politics/27THOM.html

June 27, 2001


Thomas Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill


By ALEX KUCZYNSKI and WILLIAM GLABERSON


The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F.
Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to
protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.

David Brock, the author of the book, The Real Anita Hill (Free Press,
1993), has also suggested, in a magazine article to be published this week,
that Justice Thomas used an intermediary to provide Mr.  Brock with
damaging information about a woman who had come forward to provide support
for Ms. Hill's accusations of harassment by Justice Thomas.  Ms.  Hill's
accusations became the focus of Senate hearings into Justice Thomas's
nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991.

Mr.  Brock reported that he then used the information to force the woman to
retract her statements about Justice Thomas.  The article, in the August
issue of Talk magazine, is excerpted from Mr.  Brock's new book, Blinded
by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex Conservative (Crown Publishers),
which is scheduled to be published in September.

Describing an article he wrote for The American Spectator, a conservative
magazine, in 1992, which became the basis for his book on Ms.  Hill, he
said he did everything he could to ruin Hill's credibility, using
virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation I had
collected on Hill into the vituperative mix.

I demonized Democratic senators, their staffs, and Hill's feminist
supporters without ever interviewing any of them, he continued.

In the last few years, Mr.  Brock has disavowed his conservative activism,
and criticized his own and his former colleagues' attacks on their main
targets, Bill and Hillary Clinton.

In the Talk article, Mr.  Brock said the incident involving the
intermediary occurred in 1994 as he was preparing a review of a book,
Strange Justice: The Selling of Clarence Thomas, by two Wall Street
Journal reporters, Jill Abramson and Jane Mayer, for The American
Spectator.  Ms.  Abramson is now the Washington bureau chief of The New
York Times; Ms.  Mayer is a Washington correspondent for The New Yorker.

He said Mark Paoletta, a Washington lawyer whom Mr.  Brock identifies as a
close friend of Justice Thomas's, gave Mr.  Brock damaging information
about Kaye Savage, another friend of Mr.  Thomas's, who had told the
Strange Justice authors that Justice Thomas had an obsessive interest in
pornography.  The information, which according to Mr.  Brock's account, Mr.
Paoletta said came from Justice Thomas, involved personal details about Ms.
Savage's divorce.

Mr.  Brock wrote that he used the information to intimidate her into
recanting her account, threatening that he would blacken her name, just as
I had done to every other woman who had impugned Thomas's reputation.

In an interview, Mr.  Paoletta, now senior Republican counsel to the House
Committee on Energy and Commerce, denied Mr.  Brock's account.

It's not true, he said.  Justice Thomas did not ask me to pass along any
derogatory information about Kaye Savage.

A spokeswoman for the Supreme Court, Kathy Arberg, said yesterday that the
justice had no comment.

Reached at home in Washington last night, Ms.  Savage said that Mr.  Brock
had tried to intimidate her but that he had not told her the source of the
negative information.

I didn't think to ask, she said.

But she said that she had shared the information about her divorce with few
people and that Justice Thomas and Ms.  Hill were primarily those to whom
she had confided.

He either got it from Clarence or he got it from Anita, Ms.  Savage said,
and Anita's my friend.

Mr.  Brock also said in the magazine excerpt that Mr.  Paoletta told him
that Justice Thomas rented pornographic videos from a store called Graffiti
Video.

Mr.  Brock wrote that in an effort to protect the conservative political
agenda, he consciously lied in the review of Strange Justice in The
American Spectator.

In the review, Mr.  Brock wrote that there was no evidence that Justice
Thomas had ever rented one pornographic video, let alone was a habitual
consumer of pornography.

In the excerpt, Mr.  Brock writes: When I wrote those words I knew they
were false.  It was the first and last time that I consciously put a lie in
print.

Mr.  Paoletta denied Mr.  Brock's statement that Mr.  Paoletta had told Mr.
Brock that Justice Thomas had often rented pornographic movies from a store
named Graffiti Video when Anita Hill worked for him.

In the interview yesterday, Mr.  Paoletta said, I do not know whether
Justice Thomas ever rented pornographic videos at any time.

When he was a writer for The American Spectator, Mr.  Brock also wrote an
article titled Troopergate, in which he reported accusations from
Arkansas state troopers about Bill Clinton's private life when he was
governor of Arkansas.  Later, when Mr. 

Re: [CTRL] TIME Magazine: When Did AIDS Begin? --PA

[Aleisha Saba]

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Mike this doctor at OSU, a he was named Jones way back in 1964 told me
from this book Occupational Hazards, book of poisons etc., that oh no,
tolune was not harmful eough to hurt anybody.then he looked up in
this book and said my god it is worse then carbon tech.

He was shocked and what is was was prolonged use over a priod of time
and little kids their bones do not close and somehow it affects bone
marrow.   This little kid was only 8 years old but his mother had also
his clothese drycleaned.and they did use toluene in the cleaning
fluid at that time.

Tolulene was used in the glue and Testor out of Chicago I had so angry
they threatened to sueme and this man screamed at me over the phoe
saying a kid could die from eating a tabelespoon full of salt.

I had lists of kids who had blood disease and all made and used this
glue and so then they tried to say these little kids were glue sniffing.

Long story how I got onto it and the best we did was that had to put on
the Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed, for it had no wrning label.

The Hobby Shop threatened to sue my reporter helping me and they were
afraid were were going to hurt their business..

The one thing nobody took into consideration prior, was prolonged use
over period of time and this little kid riding his bicycle in the hot
sun with even his little T shirt dry cleaned and his little jeans
dryclelaned.

At the time I checked this out thoroughly.but this Dr. Jones read
out ofo the book and he did not know how deadly this stuff was.

Said intensive heat and toluene could cause caateracts; and I knew this
woman who worked in a dry cleaners as one of the helpers, who used those
big steam machines who went nearaly blindpilots get cataracts from
flying in the sun, the old timers did lwho fought in WWII...

So Steve picked up on a more modern article..check California in
1964 and they had finally gotten onto the fact that little kids had
aplastic anemia etc., caused by this glue.

Guess too they changed formula and then tried to put something in it tht
would smell so bad, kids wouldnot want to smellsome kids were glue
sniffing, but these little 5 and 6 and 7 year aold kids were bein
affectedtoo.

Long story,  but what makes me sick is to see these young kids pouring
and working in 90 degrees laying asphalt and knowing that they will die
early or be very ill becaue of same - working in the son is bad enough.

Industrial Hazards was the book - and the man I also had interested was
with Nationwide Insurance who had grandson with blood disease but he got
scared offfor what he did was take one tube to a lab and was told
not enough to hurt you, but extended period of time, it was prolonged
used over period of time that did the damage

Steve isnot a very good researcher..I worked on that stuff  so long
ago; also two cases on encephalitis and two little kids died and both
had been to this woods, a state part in our townI went out there,
and noted the monkies were gone?

So could he monkies have carried a disease?   I was in that woods once
with my son in a tailor tot and got in center of lwood ner lagoon and
suden was hundreds of mosquitos that went at us from nowhere and I ran
out of that part.

So consider the stuff used to wrd off mositoes?  All toxic .garden
sprays, and back in 1964 I got in deep water for one big reason - when I
knew I was right, I knew then these bastards knew all alone their glue
was killiing and makiong little kids sick - they feared lawsuits.

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[CTRL] AP: No Hearing for Now Into Karl Rove

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010625/pl/rove_trie_1.html


Monday June 25 6:10 PM ET


No Hearing for Now Into Karl Rove

By PETE YOST
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) - House Republicans on Monday brushed off a Democratic
request to investigate the finances of President Bush's political adviser.

Instead they released an FBI document quoting a Democratic donor as saying
he once paid $20,000 to ensure access to the Clinton White House.

The FBI interview report quoted former Little Rock restaurateur Charlie
Trie, a figure in the Clinton era fund-raising investigation, as telling
agents he paid the money to presidential aide Mark Middleton in 1994.
Middleton's lawyer denied the allegation.

The FBI document was released by House Government Reform Committee chairman
Dan Burton, R-Ind., who delayed giving an answer about whether he will
investigate the stock holdings of Bush strategist Karl Rove.

Rep.  Henry Waxman, the ranking Democrat on Burton's committee, had asked
Burton whether he would look into the Rove matter.  The Associated Press
reported Bush's top strategist met March 12 with Intel executives
concerning federal approval for a merger at a time when Rove owned more
than $100,000 in company stock.

Burton mocked Waxman's request, saying the California Democrat had been
``noticeably absent'' on ethics issues when Clinton was in office,
providing the Trie example.

Burton said Waxman should wait for Rove to respond to written questions
from Waxman before the committee makes a decision.

Rove sold more than $1.5 million in stock holdings in Intel and 22 other
companies June 7.

Waxman wrote White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales, demanding to know
whether Rove had ever sought a waiver from White House lawyers so that he
could participate in various issues that touched on his personal stock
holdings.

Waxman said Burton has ignored three letters from the Democrat since May 10
asking whether the committee would look into various Bush White House
fund-raising practices.

Burton, for his part, highlighted Trie's statements to the FBI two years
ago -- released to Congress by the Justice Department just last week.

``According to Trie, his primary reason for paying Middleton was to
continue getting into the White House,'' stated a written FBI summary of
interviews with Trie.

``Trie stated that had Middleton stayed in the White House, Trie probably
would have given him $10,000 every month to ensure White House access and
introductions to business people,'' the FBI summary added.

One of the businessmen Trie was allowed to bring to the White House was the
head of a Chinese weapons company who went to one of the White House
coffees hosted by Clinton as part of a fund-raising effort.

Trie told the FBI the first payment to Middleton came just before Christmas
1994 when Middleton came to Trie's Watergate apartment to borrow his
Mercedes.

Trie handed Middleton $10,000 in $100 denominations and when ``Middleton
looked surprised and seemed reluctant to accept the money,'' Trie told him,
``This is for all the help,'' the FBI summary said.

Middleton's lawyer, Robert Luskin, said his client ``never took a cent
other than his government salary'' while working at the Clinton White
House.

Luskin complained about Burton that ``every time he has a bad day at the
office'' the congressman ``keeps kicking the dog'' by bringing up
fund-raising controversies from the Clinton years.


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[The following is the text to the first page of the FEDERAL GUIDELINES FOR
SEARCHING AND SEIZING COMPUTERS.  --MS]


http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/search_docs/toc.htm


TABLE OF CONTENTS

---
-

PREFACE

INTRODUCTION



I.  KEY TERMS AND CONCEPTS

A.   DEFINITIONS

B.   LIST OF COMPUTER SYSTEM COMPONENTS

C.   DETERMINING THE COMPUTER'S ROLE IN THE OFFENSE



II.  GENERAL PRINCIPLES

A.   SEARCH WARRANTS

B.   PLAIN VIEW

C.   EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES

D.   BORDER SEARCHES

E.   CONSENT SEARCHES

 1.   Scope of the Consent

 2.   Third-Party Consent

  a.   General Rules

  b.   Spouses

  c.   Parents

  d.   Employers

  e.   Networks:  System Administrators

F.   INFORMANTS AND UNDERCOVER AGENTS

G.   AGENCY ISSUES (NEW SECTION)

III.  SEIZING HARDWARE

A.   THE INDEPENDENT COMPONENT DOCTRINE

B.   HARDWARE AS CONTRABAND OR FRUITS OF CRIME

 1.   Authority for Seizing Contraband or Fruits of Crime

 2.   Contraband and Fruits of Crime Defined

C.   HARDWARE AS AN INSTRUMENTALITY OF THE OFFENSE

 1.   Authority for Seizing Instrumentalities

 2.   Instrumentalities Defined

D.   HARDWARE AS EVIDENCE OF AN OFFENSE

 1.   Authority for Seizing Evidence

 2.   Evidence Defined

E.   TRANSPORTING HARDWARE FROM THE SCENE


IV.  SEARCHING FOR AND SEIZING INFORMATION

A.   INTRODUCTION

B.   INFORMATION AS CONTRABAND

C.   INFORMATION AS AN INSTRUMENTALITY

D.   INFORMATION AS EVIDENCE

 1.   Evidence of Identity

 2.   Specific Types of Evidence

  a.   Hard Copy Printouts

  b.   Handwritten Notes

E.   PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION

 1.   In General

  a.   Doctors, Lawyers, and Clergy

  b.   Publishers and Authors

 2.   Targets

 3.   Using Special Masters

F.   UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE EVIDENCE MIGHT BE:  STAND-ALONE PCs,
 NETWORKS AND FILE-SERVERS, BACKUPS, ELECTRONIC BULLETIN BOARDS,
 AND ELECTRONIC MAIL

 1.   Stand-Alone PCs

  a.   Input/Output Devices:  Do Monitors, Modems, Printers, and
   Keyboards Ever Need to be Searched?

  b.   Routine Data Backups

 2.   Networked PCs

  a.   Routine Backups

  b.   Disaster Backups

G.   SEARCHING FOR INFORMATION

 1.   Business Records and Other Documents

 2.   Data Created or Maintained by Targets

 3.   Limited Data Searches

 4.   Discovering the Unexpected

  a.   Items Different from the Description in the Warrant

  b.   Encryption

  c.   Deleted Information (New Section)



H.   DECIDING WHETHER TO CONDUCT THE SEARCH ON-SITE OR
 TO REMOVE HARDWARE TO ANOTHER LOCATION

 1.   Seizing Computers because of the Volume of Evidence

  a.   Broad Warrant Authorizes Voluminous Seizure of Documents

  b.   Warrant is Narrowly Drawn but Number of Document
   to be Sifted through is Enormous

  c.   Warrant Executed in the Home

  d.   Applying Existing Rules to Computers

 2.   Seizing Computers because of Technical Concerns

  a.   Conducting a Controlled Search to Avoid
   Destroying Data

  b.   Seizing Hardware and Documentation so the
   System Will Operate at the Lab

I.   EXPERT ASSISTANCE

 1.   Introduction

 2.   Finding Experts

  a.   Federal Sources

  b.   Private Experts

   (1)   Professional Computer Organizations

   (2)   Universities

   (3)   Computer and Telecommunications Industry Personnel

   (4)   The Victim

 3.   What the Experts Can Do

  a.   Search Planning and Execution

  b.   Electronic Analysis

  c.   Trial Preparation

  d.   Training for Field Agents

J.   DISKETTES AND OTHER CONTAINERS (NEW SECTION)



V.  NETWORKS AND BULLETIN BOARDS

A.   INTRODUCTION

B.   THE PRIVACY PROTECTION ACT, 42 U.S.C. § 2000aa

 1.   A Brief History of the Privacy Protection Act

 2.   Work Product Materials

 3.   Documentary Materials

 4.   Computer Searches and the Privacy Protection Act

  a.   The Reasonable Belief Standard

  b.   Similar Form of Public Communication

  c.   Unique Problems:  Unknown Targets and Commingled
   Materials

 5.   Approval of Deputy Assistant Attorney General Required

 6.   Liability Under the Privacy Protection Act (New Section)
C.   STORED ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS

D.   STORED WIRE COMMUNICATIONS (NEW SECTION)

VI.  DRAFTING THE WARRANT

A.   DRAFTING A WARRANT TO SEIZE HARDWARE

B.   DRAFTING A WARRANT TO SEIZE INFORMATION

 1.   Describing the Place to be Searched

  a.   General Rule:  Obtain a Second Warrant

  b.   Handling Multiple Sites within the Same District

  c.   Handling 

Re: [CTRL] TIME Magazine: When Did AIDS Begin? --PA

[Steve]

-Caveat Lector-

On 28 Jun 01, at 3:44, Aleisha Saba wrote:

 Steve isnot a very good researcher..I worked on that stuff  so long
 ago; also two cases on encephalitis and two little kids died and both
 had been to this woods, a state part in our townI went out there,
 and noted the monkies were gone?

 So could he monkies have carried a disease?   I was in that woods once
 with my son in a tailor tot and got in center of lwood ner lagoon and
 suden was hundreds of mosquitos that went at us from nowhere and I ran
 out of that part.

 So consider the stuff used to wrd off mositoes?  All toxic .garden
 sprays, and back in 1964 I got in deep water for one big reason - when I
 knew I was right, I knew then these bastards knew all alone their glue
 was killiing and makiong little kids sick - they feared lawsuits.

I agree with one thing you said, Alisha Saba, the stuff they spray on
mosquitoes makes many people sick also, and toluene is not a good thing
to smell even if it smells 'good'. I remember as a kid thinking it smelled
pretty good but seeing the warning labels not to do so and being warned by
adults as well. California is more proactive regarding warning about
carcinogens, so naturally the conservatives say we are socialists and
godless communists who are only support conservation of energy not
burning more fossile fuel$ because we do not bow down to the corporate
gods they worship and who fund most of their public campaigns.

I think I will buy one of the abandoned silos and just hope your reptilian
buddies don't live below, Saba.  ;)

Steve




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[CTRL] On Radiant Electrical Energy: Tesla's Greatest Secret (fwd)

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http://educate-yourself.org/radiantenergystory.html

http://rense.com/general11/tesla.htm


6.26.01

Radiant Electrical Energy: Tesla's Greatest Secret/Fwd

Without Tesla, there would be NO modern world.

Radiant Energy - Unraveling Tesla's Greatest Secret By Ken Adachi


[The story you are about to read is derived from a carefully researched
paper presented by Dr.  Peter Lindemann before a private audience in
Irvine, California on September 12, 2000.  The lecture was titled The Free
Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity .  It detailed the story of Radiant
Energy and its successful application by Edwin Gray in an over unity motor
design which Gray debuted in 1973.  The real detective work (  credit) in
uncovering Tesla's discovery of Radiant energy came from author Gerry
Vassilatos in his recent book, Secrets of Cold War Technology without
which Lindemann could not have solved the enigma of Gray's Radiant circuit
design.  This lecture delivered the goods.  The secret of Tesla's Radiant
Energy has finally been revealed in manifold detail and only awaits the
industry of those who care to study and understand it.  Part1 presents a
general overview of Tesla's discovery and the political, intrigues that led
to its subsequent suppression. Part 2 will detail the nuts and bolts of how
Tesla produced Radiant Energy with block diagrams, schematics, and drawings
from Tesla's original patents to illustrate all of the necessary elements
and parameters required.  Additional details on Gray's modern adaptation of
Tesla's Radiant circuitry and a brief look at Eric Dollard, the only man to
successfully recreate Tesla's Colorado Springs Magnifying transmitter and
reproduce the pure steaming white rays of Radiant energy in 1986 exactly as
described by Tesla in his Colorado journals.  --Ken Adachi]


Of all the great inventions and discoveries of Nikola Tesla, nothing stood
out with greater potential benefit to the whole of humanity than his
discovery of Radiant Energy in 1889.  The series of observations that led
to the discovery of Radiant energy initially grew out of experiments that
Tesla had conducted in an attempt to duplicate the results that Heinrich
Hertz had claimed to achieve in affirming the existence of electromagnetic
waves, the discovery of which Hertz announced in 1887.

While replicating Hertz's experiments, Tesla experimented with violently
abrupt DC electrical discharges and discovered a new force in the process.
Only after conducting exhaustive experimental trials for the next three
years, did Tesla announce this stupendous discovery in a paper published in
December, 1892, entitled The Dissipation of Electricity.  Incredibly,
most academicians of the day completely missed the mark in understanding
the true significance of his paper.  Noted scientists such as Sir Oliver
Lodge, mistakenly thought that Tesla was referring to high frequency AC
electricity in the operation of the Tesla Transformer, a huge blunder that
remains to this day in the misnaming and misinterpretation of the Tesla
Coil.  The transformer that Tesla referred to in the 1892 paper did not
operate on magnetic/electric field induction created by alternating
currents.  It operated in an entirely new domain of physics based on abrupt
discharges of electrostatic potentials and the subsequent release of
kinetic Radiant Energy from the omnipresent ether.  Tesla was now operating
under entirely new rules which he referred to as dynamic electro-static
forces and had, by now, completely abandoned any further interest in the AC
waveform.  The genesis of the Lodge misunderstanding, however, began a few
years earlier with the publication of certainmathematical formulas by a
brilliant Scotsman named James Clerk Maxwell.

Maxwell's Equations Using mathematical models, James Clerk Maxwell had
earlier suggested that two different types of electrical disturbances could
possibly exist in Nature.  One type was a longitudinal electric wave which
required alternating concentrations of densified and rarefied pulsations of
electrostaticfields that moved along a single vector (today, we refer to
these as standing waves or scalar waves).  Maxwell ultimately rejected this
idea because he was convinced that this type of wave propagation was
impossible to achieve, but his assumption was erroneous and would later
portend formidable consequences for Tesla and the world at large.

Maxwell's second wave postulation was that of a transverse electromagnetic
wave that exhibited a rapid alternation of electric fields along a fixed
axis that radiated away from its point of origin at the speed of light and
was detectable at great distances.  Maxwell had more faith in the existence
of this type of wave and encouraged experimenters to look in this
direction.  It was the discovery of this type of wave that Hertz had laid
claim to, but Tesla was meticulous and fastidious in replicating Hertz's
experimental parameters and he could not obtain the results claimed by

Re: [CTRL] TIME Magazine: When Did AIDS Begin? --PA

[Aleisha Saba]

-Caveat Lector-

And stop calling my distant cousins and ancestors reptiles; however,
this one has very strange eyes and a tail.

come to think of it - anyway, it was long ago I got into the toluene
stuff.this little boy had been in my house playing with my son
making little cars and I noted he would get silly - he was 7 then and he
made hundreds of the cars.

When I saw his tombstone I about died - for there was a picture of a
model car engraved on it, he loved them so much.

This one reporter stood loyal and these people tried to get him fired.

Knew this one old man, who was Treasure in City, on hot day in his
garden working spraying away and he dropped deadand I though of the
spray he used.

Worried about the ozone and these aerosol cans when people are killing
themselves in their own bathrooms with spray  - hair spray deodorant
sprays sometimes, spray cleaners - but the worse thing I ever did,  was
I ran out of toilet bowl cleaner, so put in a little chlorine and then
poured in the chlorax and ended up with the emergaency squad at my house
for I had made chlorine gase.

Good thing I never used fertilizer would have probably blown up the
house.

Good night Steve it is almost 5 in morning here and I have been up too
late.   Almost time to get back up.

Saba

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[CTRL] AP; KCS: Convicted rapist held in murder investigation; NYP: WHERES THE PARDON FOR WAYNE DUMOND?

[MIKE SPITZER]

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[If you aren't familiar with the name Wayne Dumond, read the article below
by NYP's Steve Dunleavy below.  --MS]


The Associated Press

FORMER ARKANSAS INMATE HELD ON MURDER CHARGES IN MISSOURI

Tim Kniest,a spokesman for the Missouri Department of Corrections -- says
Dumond was wanted in connection with a murder case and arrested Saturday
morning, shortly after midnight.  The 51-year-old Dumond is being held in
the Clay County jail near Kansas City.

DuMond moved to Smithville, Missouri, last year from his hometown of DeWitt
after his parole was transferred to Missouri.  He had been convicted in
1985 of kidnapping and raping a Forrest City teenager.

While awaiting his trial, DuMond was castrated by masked men.  No one was
arrested in the attack.  But former Saint Francis County Sheriff Coolidge
Conlee was ordered by the courts to pay DuMond 100-thousand dollars for
displaying DuMond's testicles in a jar on his desk in the sheriff's office.

Copyright 2001 by The Associated Press.

###


http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/local.pat,local/3accc6c2.625,.html

Kansas City Star June 25, 2001

Convicted rapist held in murder investigation

By BENITA Y.  WILLIAMS
The Kansas City Star


A Smithville man on parole for rape in Arkansas was questioned Monday by
police in connection with a Northland murder.

Kansas City police arrested Wayne E.  Dumond, 51, on Friday at his
residence in the 400 block of East Main Street on a parole violation
warrant involving a homicide investigation.  He was transferred Saturday to
the Clay County Jail and was being held without bond Monday.

Missouri Department of Corrections spokesman Tim Kniest said the warrant
was issued because Kansas City police had significant evidence linking
Dumond to a homicide.

If the evidence is overwhelming that a person is involved in a violation
of the law, probation and parole will issue a parole violation warrant and
then complete its investigation, Kniest said.

Dumond's attorney, Bruce Houdek, said his client was not guilty and that he
would request a preliminary parole hearing to determine whether the state
had probable cause to issue its warrant.

Kansas City police spokesman Steve Young confirmed the department had
evidence that showed Dumond may be a suspect in a homicide but declined to
say which murder it involved.

Jim Roberts, a spokesman for the Clay County prosecutor's office, said the
case involved a Clay County homicide that took place within the past year.

I do not know if there are other cases in other jurisdictions, but I know
other jurisdictions are interested in the results of the search warrant,
Roberts said.

Police on Friday also searched Dumond's Smithville apartment and an
unidentified place of employment in nearby Platte County.  Police would not
comment on what they found.

Houdek said he could not comment because he and his client had not been
given copies of the Clay County search warrant, a list of what was taken in
the two searches or the parole violation warrant.

Dumond was on parole for a 1985 rape conviction in Arkansas.  His parole
was transferred to Missouri last year after he married a woman from the
Smithville area.  Dumond had no parole violations in Missouri before last
week, Kniest said.

Dumond's Arkansas conviction involved the 1984 rape of a 17-year-old high
school cheerleader from Forrest City who was a distant cousin of former
President Bill Clinton.

While awaiting trial, Dumond said he was castrated by masked men at his
residence.  No one was arrested, but Dumond received a lawsuit settlement
against then-Sheriff Coolidge Conlee of St.  Francis County, who kept
Dumond's testicles in a jar on his office desk.

After being convicted of rape, Dumond was sentenced to life in prison plus
20 years.  In 1992, Gov.  Jim Guy Tucker commuted the sentence to 39 years
and six months.  In 1996, Gov.  Mike Huckabee said he had serious
questions about Dumond's guilt and started the process to free him.

After the victim's family protested, Arkansas officials in 1997 approved a
parole plan that would free Dumond if another state would take him.

Texas and Florida both rejected parole plans and Dumond remained in prison
until the Arkansas parole board granted his release in 1999.  He moved to
Smithville in August.  He was scheduled to be released from parole in 2004.

###


WHERE'S THE PARDON FOR WAYNE DUMOND?

New York Post February 21, 2001
By Steve Dunleavy

IN HIS busy schedule between shoplifting and granting pardons to traitorous
animals, Bill Clinton has continually suffered a massive attack of amnesia.

Both as governor of Arkansas and president, the one pardon he forgot about
was Wayne Dumond.

In 48 years on this job on six continents, I have never seen or heard of a
miscarriage of justice in these United States like the one visited on Wayne
Dumond.

And all those over-educated idiots in 

[CTRL] JW: NEW LAWSUIT LAYS OUT ILLEGAL SCHEME BY CLINTON

[MIKE SPITZER]

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To view the actual court document, go to:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/cases/paulcomp.htm



6/21/2001
Press Office
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NEW LAWSUIT LAYS OUT ILLEGAL SCHEME BY CLINTONS TO HELP HILLARY CLINTON'S
SENATE CAMPAIGN

$2 Million in Unreported Campaign Contributions for Hollywood Gala
Fundraiser

Judicial Watch Client Alleges Pardongate Role by Former DNC Chair, Ed
Rendell, And Names Major Hollywood Stars Such As Brad Pitt and Barbra
Streisand As Witnesses


(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that
investigates and prosecutes government corruption, filed a lawsuit
yesterday in California state court against Bill and Hillary Clinton, and
Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign committees (among others) on behalf of a
major Clinton and DNC donor, Peter Paul.  Mr.  Paul, an international
businessman who has had a distinguished career in philanthropy and in
production and marketing, gave approximately $2 million in direct, in-kind
contributions last year for Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign.  Mr.  Paul
gave the money in support of the Hollywood Tribute to Bill Clinton held
on August 12, 2000.  The lawsuit seeks damages from the Clintons and others
over the fraud scheme.  Among the lawsuit's allegations:

* Mr.  Paul paid the $2 million to the Clinton campaign as part of a $17
million offer to Bill Clinton to work with Mr.  Paul's companies after he
left the Oval Office.  This contribution was never reported to the Federal
Election Commission, and Mrs. Clinton and her campaign lied to the media
about the contributions and Mr.  Paul's funding of the gala tribute.

* Mr.  Paul discussed a potential presidential pardon for prior felony
convictions in return for his political contributions with then DNC
Chairman Ed Rendell.

* The Clinton campaign knowingly allowed a foreign national to attend the
Hollywood Tribute in exchange for a $27,000 contribution.  This foreign
national later attended the India State Dinner.

* After telling The Washington Post that they did not and would not accept
any contributions from Mr.  Paul, Mrs.  Clinton's campaign finance
director, David Rosen, demanded Mr.  Paul make another (never reported)
$55,000 contribution for a separate fundraiser for Mrs.  Clinton to a third
party - a pro-abortion group in Illinois.

* Mr.  and Mrs.  Clinton made repeated calls to Mr.  Paul to thank him for
his financing of the Hollywood Tribute.  Mr.  Paul also had extensive
discussions with Chelsea Clinton, Al Gore, and many aides and others to the
Clintons regarding his funding of the Hollywood Tribute and his plans to
work with Mr.  Clinton after he left office.

* Hollywood stars, such as Brad Pitt, Barbra Streisand, John Travolta, and
Cher, are named as witnesses in the complaint.

Mr.  Paul has documentary evidence of his close relationship with the
Clintons, including checks, thank you notes from the Clintons themselves,
and candid video and photographs.  Mr.  Paul, who faces indictment on
alleged securities violations, is eager to cooperate with the U.S.  Justice
Department, so that all involved are brought to justice.


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[CTRL] NM: On yellow traffic lights of four seconds or less: Safety, or PROFIT?: Armey Exposes Traffic-Lighr Spying

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/25/195458.shtml


Armey Exposes Traffic-Light Spying

By  Wes Vernon
Tuesday, June 26, 2001


WASHINGTON - Gotcha!  House Majority leader Dick Armey has turned the
spotlight on legal documents showing that profit, not safety, is the
guiding principle in yellow traffic lights of four seconds or less.

A few weeks ago, Armey, R-Texas, blew the whistle on the whole idea of
using machines instead of police officers to catch motorists who run red
lights.  Moreover, the yellow light time was suspiciously short in many
cases, seemingly in an attempt to make it harder to stop in time before the
light turns red.

Now, says Armey, there is documented evidence in San Diego confirming that
this is exactly what's happening.

Attorneys with the Red Light Defense Team have obtained thousands of
confidential documents from the city's red-light camera contractor during
court proceedings.

The evidence is clear, says the congressman.  The concern for safety has
given way to a concern for profit.  It's all there in black and white.

Here are the criteria used to determine where red-light cameras were to be
placed in the city:


1.  High traffic volume. Heavy traffic ensures a steady stream of
profits.

2.  The document actually says cameras are to be used where the yellow
signal time is less than 4 seconds.


Think about that.  Is four seconds likely to be sufficient time for you to
come to a complete stop without the risk of being rear-ended?  And is that
related to safety?

One of the documents actually shows that at one intersection where yellow
light time was increased from 3 to 4.7 seconds, there was a 90 percent
decline in the violations reported.

The deck is stacked against the driving public, the congressman adds.

San Diego officials recently suspended that city's red-light camera program
after court action brought out the fact that camera sensors were being
manipulated.  Or, as Armey puts it, Orwell's cash machine is out of service
in San Diego.  If the cops are not on hand to issue the tickets, they have
no way of determining whether the tickets were issued fairly or not.

But the red-light camera is but one instance of machine-based privacy
invasions of motorists.  Here's another.


Spying on Rental Cars

Next time you rent a car, you may want to ask the rental agency folks if
they plan on following your every move behind the wheel.

C-Net.com has turned up a case that could determine whether you are
entitled to privacy once you sign on the dotted line and then leave the
rental agency's parking lot.

A Connecticut man is suing the Acme Rent-a-Car after it used GPS (Global
Positioning System)
technology to track him and then fined him $450 for speeding three times.

Most of us assumed handing out traffic tickets was the job of the police.
When and where was a law passed entrusting that responsibility to private
industry?

Whether you know it or not, rental car companies have used the GPS devices
since the mid-1990s, according to the C-Net report.

And there's big money in this privacy-invading cottage industry.  Fleet
management companies such as AirQ and Fleetrack are selling newer tracking
devices to help companies monitor their vehicles.

The Connecticut case has pitted motorist James Turner against Acme
Rent-a-Car and the Connecticut Department of Consumer Protection.

Acme's attorney says this is not about penalizing customers, but about
protecting its cars.  With this device, you can track within a city block
anywhere in the world.

The company itself, according to the story, promotes the GPS and AirQ
ability to track a vehicle's location, when the car crosses into another
country or state, and even disable the car by remote control.

David Sobel, an attorney for the electronic Privacy Center here in
Washington, says the challenge now is to nip this practice in the bud
before it spreads.

Acme plans to abide by the ruling of the state Department of Consumer
Protection If they say it's not fair, we'll give him his money back, says
the company.

The Privacy Center foundation worries that soon our cell phones will be
tracking us.


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[CTRL] Mass UK Mind Control Technology Now A Reality (fwd)

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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject: Mass UK Mind Control Technology Now A Reality

6-24-1

Dear Jeff

The UK Government is now spending £2.5 million to fully implement a
nation-wide deployment of CIA mind-control technology.

The TETRA system pulses at 17.6 Hz broadcast at 400 MHz which is
essentially the Pandora Project funded by the CIA in the late '60s and
early '70s.  Dr Ross Adey, the chief researcher on the Pandora Project has
released a video to leading UK researchers which proves that not only does
the TETRA system cause ELF zombification by massive release of calcium ions
in the cerebral cortex and the nervous system, but the activated calcium
ions also cause massive hormonal disturbances which lead to frenzied
imbalances, emotional and physical states.

This system will be used by all UK police and emergency services by the end
of the year, as the Home Office has sold off all police frequencies, so
they are forced to use the new system.

Use of the TETRA system by the police will lead to psychotronicaly
controlled officers who may be totally controlled in any situation and are
very useful for states of economic or social chaos where extreme and
violent behaviour is needed without any conscious or moral compunction -
so-called police robots.

30,000 transmitters will be placed around the country to maximise the
effects on the local UK population - mass mind control.

Anyone who has complained of these transmitters has received a letter from
the Government informing them that if the transmitters are not positioned
where the Government wishes, there can be no guarantee then of police
protection, which will lead to higher insurance premiums for the
householder.

A leading UK newspaper tried to run this story, but had the item quashed by
high-level Government intervention.
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Report by Tim Rifat
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The Truth Campaign magazine will be running an article on this subject,
written by Tim Rifat, in a forthcoming edition.

For further information on ELF mind control, see articles by Tim Rifat on
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www.truthcampaign.co.uk

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Poundstone Facing Child-Abuse Charges
Poundstone Facing Child-Abuse Charges

Stand-up comic

Paula
Poundstone is facing serious jailtime after being arrested on
child-abuse charges.  The 41-year-old
funnywoman, a fixture on the comedy-club and TV game-show circuits, was
arrested in Malibu by Santa Monica police Wednesday afternoon on three
felony counts of committing a lewd act upon a female child, according to
the Los Angeles District Attorney's office. 
 She was additionally charged with endangering another girl and two
boys.  The charges carry a
maximum penalty of 13 years in state prison, authorities say. Poundstone
remains jailed on $200,000 bail. 
Poundstone's publicist had no immediate comment on the arrest.
 According to prosecutors, Poundstone allegedly
committed the lewd acts on three separate occasions: May 19, June 5 and
June 6. The child-endangerment incident also allegedly occurred on June
6.  Because of their ages, none of the
children was identified.  Poundstone has
had several foster children over the years. At last count, Poundstone, a
single mom, had three adopted children and two foster kids in her
charge, ranging in age from 12 to two months. "I have a collecting
jones...I'm not sure I could stop, unless I were stopped," she told the
Seattle Times earlier this year. "But you know what, it's a
tremendous amount of physical labor, but it seems to be pretty
enjoyable, nonetheless."  The kids had
become a part of her routine, and she frequently made cracks about
motherhood. "I have five children," the comic said during a March gig,
according to a review in Springfield, Illinois' State
Journal-Register. "To be honest with you, I'm beginning to feel a
little bad for Joan Crawford. I have a feeling she said, 'No metal
hangers,' several times nicely first." 
Poundstone has said she became interested in foster care after working
at a home for abused families. 
Poundstone parlayed her stand-up fame into a disastrously short-lived
ABC sitcom in 1993, the same year she began taking in foster kids. She
is currently a regular on the syndicated versions of To Tell the
Truth and Hollywood Squares. She also does voices on Disney's
Hercules TV show and Science Court.
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Re: [CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Treated Like Trash

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1. Learn to spell or at least use the spell check capabiltiy of your e-mail
application.
2. Learn to write coherently. This stream of conscious writing is annoying
3. Provide some refrences to whatever obscure point you are trying to make:

Trying to pull together some sort of sense from your comments below I can
only gather that you are:

A gun toting,militaristic, homophobic, racist who...actually other than that
I can't make sense of what ever your saying.

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 Well remember the USS Arizona, the USS Liberty, and the USS Cole.

 Think these men are in a service now of which they may be proud; it took
 Clinton eight years to completely demoralize the troops, homosxuals
 though now can go to war and be killed along with the best of them - and
 oh yes,  Courts used to send kinds to the serviice it was there or
 jail

 So Elvis Presley went into the service and when a kid he drove a truck;
 the servie put him back to where he was most qualified, he drove a
 truck.

 He did, however try to set a good example.

 To see a Navy Captain, the one in charge of the submarine break down and
 cry about sinking Japanese sub ws a disgraceso now Colin Powell
 wants to declare wawr on AIDS when it should be against the Unitaed
 Nationsthe model citizen of Jamacian parents, of asian, black, and
 white blood.to whom does he really owe his allegiance?

 Where are the Commando Kellys, the Audie Murphys, the Colin Kellys, the
 fighting Sullivns - now these were real men and my brother in law was a
 real man but also a great brain in over and above the top of
 intelligence who was friends to some of the greatest people in the
 history of this country.

 So where are they now?   Well look at the Sodomist Clinton, the former
 Commander in Chief of the Military - the baby murderer - and you see
 what this country is today.

 A man was on TV today that explained what Bush wants for this country
 Israel already has, India wants, and the Russians in process of doing
 now.

 And we are told to disarm?   Take away their guns first of all citizens
 and infest the militiary with homosexuals...isn't tht sweet and now
 the homos want out.

 Well if they go to war, let them go out and get shot at and see the
 yellow streaks all the wawy to the guard house.

 Saba

 Further Barbara Douglas of McDonnell Douglas married Hap Arnold's
 son.so if the Douglas family and the Arnold family seem to be in
 cahoots this is why for they are family now.

 Hap Arnold was a great American Hero...so was General Nathan Twining
 and General Hoyt Vandenberg for whom my brother in law worked .he
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[CTRL] NR: Charlie Trie's new bombshell

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National Review
June 25, 2001 5:20 p.m.

The Scandal That Never Ends: Charlie Trie's new bombshell

By Byron York



Yah Lin Charlie Trie, a key figure in the Clinton-era campaign-finance
scandal, told Justice Department investigators that he gave Clinton aide
Mark Middleton two payments of $10,000 - each in $100 bills - during
Middleton's tenure in the White House, according to documents recently
released to a House committee.  Through his lawyer, Middleton denied the
allegation.

The documents are known as 302 reports, which are the forms on which FBI
agents make notes during investigative interviews.  The newly released
302's concern the FBI's questioning of Trie between June and October of
1999.

While heavily censored copies of the documents have been released before,
they did not contain the information about the alleged payoffs.  Trie, who
contributed heavily to the Democratic National Committee, told
investigators he considered Middleton a good contact because Middleton
knew everybody in the Clinton White House.

In return for his contributions, Trie enjoyed significant access to the
White House; for example, in June 1994, Trie brought Macao businessman Ng
Lap Seng - who supplied some of the money that Trie contributed - to the
White House for lunch with Middleton.  Later, Trie said that Middleton had
arranged for him to attend a private reception with Bill Clinton during a
November, 1994 presidential trip to Indonesia - a favor for which Trie was
extremely grateful.

Trie told FBI investigators that he believed Middleton was financially
strapped.  According to the report, Trie said Middleton had expressed
concern about his finances and future employment opportunities after
leaving the White House. Trie also told investigators that Middleton, as a
government employee, did not make very much money, that Middleton's
apartment was small, underground, and not very nice, and that Middleton
drove an old car.

Trie said that on six or eight occasions he loaned his car - a Mercedes -
to Middleton.  Trie told the FBI that shortly before Christmas, 1994 - not
long after the Indonesia reception - Middleton came to Trie's apartment in
the Watergate complex to borrow Trie's car.  During that meeting, according
to the FBI report:

Trie handed Middleton $10,000 in $100 denominations.  The bills were not in
an envelope.  He believes he thanked Middleton for his help.

Middleton looked surprised and seemed reluctant to accept the money.
Middleton asked Trie what the money was for and Trie responded something
like, This is for all the help. Middleton accepted the cash from Trie.
This was the first of two $10,000 cash payments Trie made to Middleton
while Middleton was still employed by the White House...  A few weeks
later, according to Trie, Middleton again came to the Watergate.  Trie says
he gave Middleton another $10,000, again in $100 bills.  Middleton did not
seem surprised to receive the second $10,000, the report says.

According to Trie, the report continues, his primary reason for paying
Middleton was to continue getting into the White House, and the secondary
reason was so Middleton would introduce him to business people. Trie also
said he paid Middleton in appreciation for helping him attend the Clinton
reception in Indonesia.  Trie says Middleton never asked him for money.

Later in 1995, Trie told investigators, he made one last $10,000 payment to
Middleton, who had by that time left the White House.  Trie said the money
was intended to pay for Middleton to visit Macao, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and
China on a business trip.

Trie says he was given the cash to pay Middleton by Ng Lap Seng, and that
the money came from a large amount of cash that Ng brought to the United
States from Asia.  During the course of the campaign-finance probe,
congressional investigators discovered that Ng brought more than $300,000
in cash to this country between 1994 and 1996.

The new information has raised eyebrows among Republican investigators on
the House Government Reform Committee, who are now trying to find out if
the Justice Department followed up on Trie's information.  We can't come
up with anybody [at the Justice Department] who can remember whether or not
Middleton was called back for a second interview after these allegations,
says a committee source.  It certainly raises our level of concern with
the investigation. At a committee hearing in August, 1999, Middleton
refused to testify, citing his Fifth Amendment rights on 28 occasions.

Middleton, who now runs an international-consulting business based in
Little Rock, Arkansas, was never charged with any wrongdoing.  Today, his
lawyer, Robert Luskin, said that Trie's allegations are absolutely false.
Mark never, ever, accepted any money from any source outside of his salary
from the White House, Luskin said.  Luskin added that Middleton was fully
cooperative with the Justice Department investigation.

Re: [CTRL] How Ignorant are Scientists

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Perhaps it would be good if you offered a specific example instead of
blanketing all scientist in this fashion. I missed the beginning of this
thread so I'm not sure if you are talking about a specific incident or just
scientist in general.

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 That is precisely why the analogy works becuase established science has a
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[CTRL] WP: Pentagon Will Revise Military Voting Procedures

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Pentagon Will Revise Military Voting Procedures

By Roberto Suro
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 23, 2001; Page A02


A Defense Department investigation found no major problems in the handling
of military absentee ballots mailed from overseas for the 2000 election,
but nonetheless the Pentagon will take steps to prevent the kind of
controversy that developed in Florida last year, officials said yesterday.

Although the military postal system already requires postmarks for all
mail, the Pentagon will revise procedures to ensure that no envelopes slip
through without a marking to show when and where they were mailed, said
Charles S.  Abell, assistant defense secretary for force management policy.

More than 2,000 absentee ballots cast overseas, most from members of the
armed forces and their families, arrived in Florida last November too late
to be counted with votes cast on Election Day.  Scores arrived without
postmarks as required, sparking a bitter dispute between the rival
presidential camps over whether they should be included.

Bowing to demands from George W.  Bush's campaign that military ballots
should be counted no matter how they arrived, several Florida county
canvassing boards tallied the overseas ballots regardless of whether they
bore the requisite postmark.  Since Bush carried the overseas vote by
nearly 2 to 1, the disputed ballots may have added significantly to the
razor-thin margin of 537 votes by which he carried Florida and thus ensured
his election.

An important note is that the audit revealed no problems or delays within
the postal system that would have impacted delivery in an unreasonable way
on balloting during this last election cycle, Abell said at a Pentagon
news briefing yesterday.

At the height of the controversy in Florida, William S.  Cohen, then the
defense secretary, asked the Pentagon's inspector general to determine
whether procedures for handling overseas absentee ballots had been followed
and whether they needed to be improved.

Much of the 49-page report, which was released yesterday, dealt with
programs designed to encourage voting by service members, their families
and civilian personnel stationed overseas.  The recommendations included
improved training on voting procedures and the establishment of a central
location on every base and ship where information on voting would be
distributed.

Men and women who serve our nation in uniform today and tomorrow are
willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice in providing for the common defense,
Abell said.

It's our duty to ensure that the ballots they cast are votes counted.

The military already has an extraordinarily high level of participation in
elections.  Some 72 percent of the 258,000 uniformed service members
overseas voted in the 2000 general election.  About 50 percent of the
eligible voters in the civilian population voted in 2000 and other recent
presidential elections.

In addition to reviewing policies and regulations, the inspector general
used questionnaires to gauge satisfaction with voter assistance programs
and conducted spot checks of the handling of incoming mail at six military
posts and outgoing mail at three posts.  The report did not try to
determine why some ballots were not postmarked as required.

While the inspector general did identify areas that require additional
work and others in which we can improve, he did not find that the program
failed or that there were systemic breakdowns, Abell said.  It worked,
and we're going to make it better.

At the time of last year's election, Florida law permitted the counting of
overseas absentee ballots that arrived up to 10 days after Election Day.
But to be valid, the law required the ballots to be postmarked by Nov.  7,
the day of the voting.  The ballots also had to be witnessed by another
person and the voter had to have formally requested the ballot.

Overseas absentee ballots that arrived before Election Day were counted
along with other votes.

An unknown number of the overseas ballots opened on Nov.  17 lacked
postmarks or otherwise could have been ruled invalid under a strict
interpretation of the law.

At the time, the Bush and Gore campaigns were in a legal and political
battle over the standards that should be used to count ballots cast at the
polls.  Al Gore's camp favored a loose reading of the law so as to count
more disputed ballots in counties that he had carried solidly, whereas
Bush's supporters wanted to throw out ballots with imperfections.

When it came to the military ballots, however, the Republicans mounted a
public relations campaign featuring prominent veterans such as former
senator Bob Dole (R-Kan.) to argue against a strict interpretation of the
law when it came to America's men and women in uniform.  Under pressure,
the Democrats decided not to challenge overseas ballots that lacked the
required features.

As with many other aspects of the count, Florida's county canvassing boards
came to 

[CTRL] weapons in space

[Steve]

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--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date sent:  Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:05:29 -0400
From:   stvjns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:weapons in space
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Send reply to:  Discussions about UFOs and research for CURRENT ENCOUNTERS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---
One of the primary motivators of the DISCLOSURE PROJECT is the
militarization of space and the several covert agendas thereof.  And so
I am forwarding this announcement as it seems relevent to that area of
concern.
--- stvjns

THURS JUNE 28 7 pm
Book Party featuring KARL GROSSMAN, terrific speaker,
celebrating the publication of his new book, WEAPONS IN SPACE.
West Park Presbyterian Church
165 Amsterdam Avenue
Corner of W. 86th St.
New York City
More info: 212. 222. 3232
Karl Grossman cuts through George W. Bush's schtick about missile
defense, and confronts how the United States is forcing forward-in
violation of international treaties-to militarize space. Basing his
research on excerpts from government documents, Grossman outlines the
U.S. military's space doctrine; its similarity with the original Star
Wars scheme of Ronald Reagan and Edward Teller; and the space-based
lasers, hypervelocity guns, and particle beams it plans to deploy in
its mission to dominate earth.
The consequences of the proposed National Missile Defense, designed
to enhance the United States 'first strike' capability, are alarming
enough: nuclear conflict, more likely, a new nuclear arms race, the
destruction of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. Yet it is just the
precursor to the even more frightening scenario that Karl Grossman
sets before us: an all powerful United States using space to dominate
a unipolar world to further its own interests. Real security is
mutual and will be based on trust and equality in a mulitpolar world.
None of us will be free until we are all free.
-Dave Knight, chair, Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, United Kingdom
KARL GROSSMAN has specialized in investigative reporting for more
than 35 years. Honors he has received include the George Polk, the
James Aronson, and the John Peter Zenger awards. His reporting on the
use of nuclear power and plans to deploy weapons in space has been
cited six times by Project Censored. Grossman is the author of many
books, including The Wrong Stuff: The Space Program's Nuclear Threat
to Our Planet and Cover Up: What You Are Not Supposed to Know About
Nuclear Power. Grossman is a professor of journalism at the State
University of New York, Old Westbury, where he teaches investigative
reporting. He lives in tranquil Sag Harbor, New York.

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Re: [CTRL] FDR Unmasked

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In all my research on WWII I have never heard of this. At the beginning of
the war German agents did infiltrate the country (some were landed on the
Jersey coast, some in Florida/the Gulf coast(?) ) but they never got far.
The Jersey landings were discovered by a shore patrol unit and the agents
themselves were not very good spies. They were either Germans who had
emigrated to America or Americans of German descent. Off the top of my head
I can remember two groups, one went to Chicago to get organized, ended up
spending a lot of their supplied money on clothing and female companionship
and got drunk in the neighborhood bars and spoke of their mission. The other
went to NYC and did something similar.

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  wrote:

 
  So what is new about this?  This fact is common knowledge. Heck FDR
 allowed
  British spies to assassinate German spies in the US.  A clear violation
 of
  the constitution.



 An intersting piece of data.  Could you describe more about  more about
 the
 assassination of
 German spies in the U.S. by the British.

 Could you provide a source where this is documented?

 Thanks.

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[CTRL] NS: Future electronic warfare will be carried out by intelligent software ag

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns922


New Scientist June 25, 2001

Smart bomb

Future electronic warfare will be carried out by intelligent software
agents, says CIA intelligence officer


Future electronic warfare will be carried out by intelligent software
agents rather than computer hackers, according to one CIA intelligence
officer.

Lawrence Gershwin, a CIA national intelligence officer, told a US Congress
Joint Economic Committee that increasing computer power could change the
nature of information warfare in coming years.  In particular, it could
make programs designed to mimic human intelligence a common weapon of
enemies of the state.

Either side could apply research in autonomous software 'agents'.  [These
are] intelligent, mobile and self-replicating software intended to roam a
network gathering data or to reconnoitre other computer network
operations.

Software programs capable of independently performing basic tasks are
already common.  They are often used to search for information but are
sometimes employed by computer hackers to attack other computers.  In May,
for example, a computer worm called sadmind/IIS was designed to
automatically deface web pages after spreading between victims' computers.

Gershwin said that more intelligent agents may be developed by both the US
and its enemies to automate computer network attack and defence.

John Daughman of Cambridge University's computer science department says
that virtual agents will be just one of many new weapons used by
governments in the future.  If you are going to attack virtual assets, the
best thing to use would be virtual agents, he told New Scientist.
Technology is always incorporated into warfare.


Information offensive

Gershwin also told the Committee that lone hackers and even computer-savvy
terrorists currently pose a minor threat to national infrastructure
compared to foreign governments.

National cyber warfare programs are unique in posing a threat along the
entire spectrum of objectives that might harm US interests, he said.  For
the next five to 10 years or so, only nation states appear to have the
discipline, commitment and resources to fully develop capabilities to
attack critical infrastructures.

A study produced by the US Department of Defence in March 2001 acknowledges
the danger of international information warfare.  It highlights
vulnerabilities in the US military's computer infrastructure and recommends
that the government develop countermeasures in order to protect itself from
an information offensive.


Global law

Global computer crime is also in the spotlight, with a new international
convention aimed at cracking down on computer hackers, virus writers and
internet fraudsters.  The final version of Council of Europe's Cyber-Crime
Convention will be published on 29 June.

The international nature of modern computer crime has prompted law
enforcers to call for laws with global reach.  The Council consists of 43
European countries, but the treaty also has the backing of the US and
Japan, which will be allowed to sign up.

The final version of the treaty is expected to guarantee in international
law a right for national governments to monitor computer communication.
The treaty will also require international co-operation in criminal
investigations.


Balance of rights

The Council's Committee on Crime Problems has drawn up the treaty but has
had to make concessions in the process.  Original drafts of the document
threatened to outlaw some common computer tools but opposition from
computer experts forced this to change.

In May, the Committee also bowed to criticism from privacy groups and
included protection for individual human rights in the treaty, although
some still say that the Convention goes too far.

The law enforcement measures haven't been balanced well with individual's
human rights, says Yaman Akdeniz, director of Cyber Rights Cyber
Liberties.
And I'm not expecting many changes from the last version.


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[CTRL] Clinton to Arafat: It's All Your Fault

[Nurev Ind.]

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Clinton to Arafat: It's All Your Fault

http://www.msnbc.com/news/593326.asp?cp1=1

The former president says the Palestinian leader squandered a chance for
Mideast peace
Clinton and Arafat at Camp David last July


By Michael Hirsh NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE

June 27, 2001 -   Nearly a year after he failed to achieve a deal at Camp
David, former president Bill Clinton gave vent to his frustrations this
week
over the collapse of peace in the Mideast. And Clinton directed his ire at
one man: Yasir Arafat. On Tuesday night, Clinton told guests at a party at
the Manhattan apartment of former U.N. ambassador Richard Holbrooke and his
wife, writer Kati Marton, that Arafat called to bid him farewell three days
before he left office. You are a great man, Arafat said. The hell I am,
Clinton said he responded. I'm a colossal failure, and you made me one.

  CLINTON SAID HE TOLD Arafat that by turning down the best peace
deal he was ever going to get-the one proffered by Israeli Prime Minister
Ehud Barak and brokered by Clinton last July-the Palestinian leader was
only
guaranteeing the election of the hawkish Ariel Sharon, the current Israeli
leader. But Arafat didn't listen. Sharon was elected in a landslide Feb. 6
and has gradually escalated his crackdown on the Palestinians despite a
shaky ceasefire negotiated two weeks ago by CIA chief George Tenet.

Clinton has refused most interview requests since he left office
Jan. 20. But at the party-which was held jointly by Holbrooke and the
International Crisis Group to celebrate a new book, Waging Modern War, by
former NATO commander Gen. Wesley Clark-Clinton captivated guests for
nearly
an hour with an insider's tale of the Camp David talks. Among the
listeners,
who gathered around the former president as he cheerfully downed Diet Cokes
and hors d'oeuvres, were Holbrooke, Clark and John Negroponte, who has been
nominated by President Bush to replace Holbrooke as U.N. ambassador.

 Clinton said, somewhat surprisingly, that he never expected to
close the deal at Camp David. But he made it clear that the breakdown of
the
peace process and the nine months of deadly intifada since then were very
much on his mind. He described Arafat as an aging leader who relishes his
own sense of victimhood and seems incapable of making a final peace deal.
He could only get to step five, and he needed to get to step 10, the
former president said. But Clinton expressed hope in the younger generation
of Palestinian officials, suggesting that a post-Arafat Palestinian leader
might be able to make peace, perhaps in as little as several years. I'm
just sorry I blew this Middle East thing, Clinton said shortly before
leaving. But I don't know what else I could have done.

Clinton also revealed that, contrary to most conventional wisdom
after Camp David ended on July 25, 2000, the key issue that torpedoed the
talks in their final stages was not the division of East Jerusalem between
Palestinians and Israelis, but the Palestinian demand for a right of
 return of refugees to Israel. On Jerusalem, he said, the two sides were
down to dickering over final language on who would get sovereignty over
which part of the Western Wall. But Arafat continued to demand that large
numbers of Palestinian refugees, mainly from the 1967 and 1948 wars, be
allowed to return-numbers that Clinton said both of them knew were
unacceptable to the Israelis.

Clinton said he bluntly contradicted Arafat when, in one of their
final conversations, the Palestinian leader expressed doubts that the
ancient Jewish temple actually lay beneath the Islamic-run compound in
Jerusalem containing the holy Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. This
was a critical point of dispute, since the Western Wall, a remnant of the
temple's retaining wall, is the holiest site in Judaism and one the
Israelis
were intent on maintaining sovereignty over. I know it's there, Clinton
said he told Arafat. The so-called Al Aqsa intifada began after Ariel
Sharon
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--- MIKE SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Privacy Center foundation worries that soon our cell phones will
 be
 tracking us.

Getting rid of my cell phone was one of the most liberating things I
ever did. Most common comment I get: What if your car breaks down?
Since I do 99.44% of my driving in the greater New York metropolitan
area, I'd be hard pressed to be more than a mile from a pay phone. Even
having my children with me, a mile is not a problem.

Now if I could just liberate Lincoln Center from cell phones, and the
ringing thereof during concerts and operas...

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Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal - and Palestinian propaganda.

[Nurev Ind.]

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 In a message dated 06/27/2001 8:32:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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  No they don't. You don't know that law. You are making presumptions based
  on ignorance. For Sharon to be indicted as a war criminal he would have
  to have had intent. Further more, it would have to be proven. As it stands
 now,
  propaganda aside, he had the nearby sport stadium cleaned and ready to move
  the inhabitants of Sabra and Shatilla into for identification. He was looking
  for Arafat's glorious fighters left behind to start new terrorist cells.
 There
  were also Shiites, Muslim Arabs who lived in that neighborhood before the
  Palestinians flooded in. The Israelis had no truck with these people. 

 The only crime that Sharon could have committed worse than the one of which
 he is accused, is ignorance of the situation.  I can respect him a lot more
 for the former than the latter.  The main problem with the Israeli is that
 they  have had no truck with any people who were not Jews.  Rest easy, Sharon
 will never be indicted.  Prudy


If igonrance of the situation was acrime, then you would get  the chair.

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Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible ...

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survival where the Palestinians paid for the sins of Christian
 Europe. I
personally think the Germany should have been given to the
 surviving Jews.
Then the Germans would be dealing with the aftermath of
 dispossession. That
would have been justice. 

 Lovely idea.  At least then when the Israeli behaved like Nazi's, it could be
 better understood.  Just why they are blaming the Palestinians for the
 Holocaust is not quite clear to me.  Prudy

I don't understand what you're talking about. Could you clarify please.

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[CTRL] S'pore scientists find infection-stalling enzyme

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S'pore scientists find infection-stalling enzyme

 
SINGAPORE, June 28 (Reuters) - Singapore scientists have isolatred an enzyme
which disrupts communication between bacterial cells to stall plant
infections in a breakthrough that could offer hope to humans.

The enzyme, extracted from a common bacterium, affects tiny molecules found
in bacteria which function as signals to synchronise the onset of an
infection.

"This enzyme stops the communication of the bacteria and these bacteria cells
cannot produce pathogens (substances that cause disease) required for
infection," Zhang Lian Hui of the Institute of Molecular Agrobiology told
Reuters on Thursday.

Zhang and his team introduced the gene for the enzyme into tobacco and potato
plants which were later found to be resistant to bacterial diseases.

The enzyme, unlike typical antibiotic drugs, did not destroy bacteria but
suppressed the onset of an infection and gave an organism's natural defences
more time to fight back.

"A similar strategy could also be used for the control of human infections,"
Zhang said.

The institute has filed for three patents and had its plant research findings
published in the June issue of the scientific journal "Nature."

Researchers have begun testing the enzyme on potentially fatal lung
infections and burns with promising results.

08:01 06-28-01

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Re: [CTRL] The Counterterrorist Myth

[flw]

-Caveat Lector-

If Usama bin Ladin did not exist the CIA and FBI would
have to invent him. The Secret Police cannot exist
without an enemy to demonize...and the Elite cannot
exist without the Secret Police.
flw

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Re: [CTRL] Chandra Levy timeline (fwd)

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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5/01 T  10:45 am Chandra
emails mother about flight home in general, there seems to have been no
flight selected by then.

Or, more accurately, an email was sent PURPORTEDLY from Chandra Levy.
There is no way to know if Chandra actually typed the email and pressed
the 'Send' key herself, or if someone signed into her ISP using her ID
and password and composed a counterfeit email to her mother.  Chandra
Levy may in fact have 'disappeared' by this time, and this email was sent
to delay her mother getting suspicious...

Since this email seems to have been skimpy on details regarding the
supposed flight home, one does have to suspect that it indeed may not
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[CTRL] NM: Rogergate Partners Had Inside Impeachment Info, Says Accuser

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/6/24/52023

NewsMax
Sunday June 24, 2001; 6:17 a.m. EDT

Rogergate Partners Had Inside Impeachment Info, Says Accuser

The one-time business partners of former first brother Roger Clinton had
inside information about President Clinton's impeachment that seemed to
bolster claims they had influence with the White House, key Pardongate
witness Garland Lincecum said from his White Plains, New York jail cell on
Friday.

In a taped interview set for broadcast Sunday night and shared exclusively
with NewsMax.com late Saturday, Lincecum told WABC radio hosts John
Batchelor and Paul Alexander that while he was negotiating payments for his
pardon with Clinton's business partners Dickey Morton and George Locke in
late 1998 and early 1999, the two men made detailed predictions about
Clinton's impeachment and subsequent Senate trial that always seemed to
come true.

Lincecum's mother and brother Alberta and Guy wiped out their savings to
pay Roger Clinton's company, CLM LLC, $235,000 to secure his freedom.
His allegations, first reported by Batchelor and Alexander on Feb.  26,
prompted U.S.  Attorney for New York's Southern District Mary Jo White to
commence a full blown criminal probe two weeks later.

On June 6, prosecutors brought Garland Lincecum to New York to testify
before White's grand jury.

The uncanny ability of Roger Clinton's business partners to fortell the
course of President Clinton's impeachment stunned Lincecum, he said Friday,
and the convincing specifics they offered led him to believe that Roger
Clinton had access to information about secret dealings at the highest
levels of the White House.

Before the impeachment, Dickey (Morton) and the senator (former Arkansas
state senator George Locke) were able to confirm exactly what was going to
happen each day -- before it happened!, Lincecum said.

Lincecum said Morton and Locke's apparent insider information included
specific predictions about how the votes were going to go and Clinton's
decision not to resign under any circumstances.  Some of the information
was so intricate Lincecum could no longer recall the details.

The key Pardongate witness had a lot riding on President Clinton's ability
to survive in office; specifically the $235,000 his family had ponied up to
pay the first brother's company.

Roger's business partners assured Lincecum that Clinton was not going to be
removed from office.  But if by some quirk of fate that happened, Vice
President Al Gore would honor the deal.

Here's one revealing exchange between Lincecum and the two radio hosts:

BATCHELOR: Dickey Morton is speaking, you presume, with Roger regularly.

GARLAND LINCECUM: That's correct.

BATCHELOR: And Roger's boasting about his information at the White House,
about the president's state of mind, the president's tactics.

GARLAND LINCECUM: That's correct.

ALEXANDER: And what the (impeachment) votes are going to be?

GARLAND LINCECUM: Right down to the -- they called it almost to the
vote..

BATCHELOR: Now in January, the Senate trial, did they also tell you how the
Senate trial was going to go?

GARLAND LINCECUM: Yeah, right to the vote.

ALEXANDER: Right to the vote.  So you're sitting there watching (the trial)
and these guys have direct access into the White House?

GARLAND LINCECUM: That's what it appeared to be.

BATCHELOR: And after the president was found not guilty, that is he wasn't
removed from office by the Senate, what were their remarks?

GARLAND LINCECUM: Basically it was sort of like, Well, I told you so.

Apart from impeachment, other developments suggested that the CLM business
partners had close White House ties.  Lincecum said one day in 1998 that
Morton called him from China, where he was traveling with Roger Clinton.

He said that they were dealing with the fourth most powerful man in China
(and) that they could get anything (into America) they wanted,
Lincecum said, explaining that CLM was interested at the time in importing
building materials from China.

During the phone call they intimated that they were going to use the
president's power to smooth the way for the import scheme, he added.

One time they talked about bringing in oil from Russia, also, said the
key Pardongate witness.

I said that many people had tried to get oil in from Russia and there's
been a lot of difficulty with it.  They said, 'That's no problem.  We will
have the situation -- there won't be a problem at all.'

Roger Clinton, a Russian oil connection?  Bizarre stuff indeed.

Or maybe not.  This exchange between Roger and Larry King Thursday night
actually reveals that the former first brother planned to travel to Russia
as late as this past February.

The subject came up while King was discussing Clinton's Feb.  21, 2001 DUI
bust in Hermosa Beach, California.

KING: Were you drinking and driving?

ROGER C.: No, sir.  Well, let me clarify that: I was not legally drunk and
driving.  I had had about two 

[CTRL] NewsWeek: A Capital Mystery Heats Up

[MIKE SPITZER]

-Caveat Lector-

A Capital Mystery Heats Up

The cops are suspicious.  The lawyers are aboard.  Seven weeks after intern
Chandra Levy went missing, the search for answers goes on-and on

By Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff
NEWSWEEK


July 2 issue - Chandra Levy didn't realize it, but she'd just talked
herself out of a job.  Last spring the now missing Washington intern was so
happy with her temporary post at the Federal Bureau of Prisons that she'd
told friends and family she hoped to be hired on full time after getting
her master's degree in public administration from USC.  Then one day she
offhandedly mentioned to a personnel officer that, officially, she'd
graduated last December.  She just needed to pick up her diploma at the May
graduation ceremony back home in California.  The officer was taken aback.
Levy's internship was supposed to expire four months after graduation.
Now she would have to leave.  Her friends and family told police that she
was upset at her sudden dismissal, NEWSWEEK has learned, and hastily
prepared to return to California.  She e-mailed her landlord on April 28,
informing him that she would have to leave her apartment, and began packing
her things.  Three days later she disappeared, leaving nearly all of her
personal belongings behind.

After almost two months of searching for answers, investigators are now
trying to assemble an hour-by-hour time line of the day Levy went missing,
interviewing friends, family and co-workers, scouring phone records and
e-mails and canvassing Washington's leafy Rock Creek Park-all in an effort
to identify patterns or clues that have so far eluded them.  Police have
also contacted morgues across the country, establishing that no Jane Does
matching Levy's description have surfaced.

Authorities are trying to piece together a picture of Chandra Levy's state
of mind at the time of her disappearance.  Police sources tell NEWSWEEK
that investigators are pursuing the possibility that she was suffering
emotional distress over her personal life.  That, they say, combined with
the sudden loss of her job, may have led her to run away, or possibly to
commit suicide.

One question in particular continues to stymie investigators: was Levy's
disappearance in any way connected to her friendship with Gary Condit, the
married congressman who represents her hometown of Modesto, Calif.?
Since her disappearance, there has been heated speculation that Levy was
romantically involved with Condit-despite the congressman's repeated
statements through a spokesman that the two were just friends.  Police
sources tell NEWSWEEK there is some evidence Levy may have been upset over
a recent breakup with an unidentified man-possibly, they believe, Condit.
They also say there is evidence that she felt let down when someone in a
position to help her keep her job didn't intervene.  Police believe Condit
could be that person.




Levy's parents have said they had suspected that their daughter might be
seeing Condit.  In one home videotape before her disappearance, Chandra's
father, Robert Levy, can be heard asking Chandra about her congressman
friend.

In February, the Levys told police, Chandra began wearing a bracelet, which
was from a man she refused to name.  Guarded about her boyfriend's identity
even with family and friends, she gave them sparse details about him,
saying only that he was involved with Congress.  When Chandra's mother,
Susan Levy, saw a newspaper article describing Condit as a teetotaler, she
remembered that Chandra had mentioned her boyfriend also did not drink
alcohol.  Telephone records show that she repeatedly phoned Condit at an
unpublished voice-mail number.


Throughout the investigation, Condit has remained publicly silent,
occasionally issuing statements through a spokesman.  He liked her.
They talked a lot, says Condit's chief of staff, Mike Lynch.  But to my
knowledge there was no romantic relationship. Condit has met with police
twice to discuss the case, most recently for an hour last Saturday.
Executive Assistant D.C.  Chief Terrance Gainer says there is no criminal
case and Condit is not a suspect.  Police say that even if Condit and Levy
were seeing each other romantically, that does not mean he was in any way
involved in her disappearance.  Yet privately, a source close to the case
tells NEWSWEEK, D.C.  police have become increasingly suspicious of
Condit's behavior.  Some investigators do not believe his denials of a
relationship with Levy and wonder if he is holding back potentially crucial
details about their relationship.
Recently they have begun quietly interviewing former Condit interns,
looking for a possible pattern of behavior.  Yet the source stresses that
they have nothing on Condit that would implicate him in any crime.

As the search continues, Levy's parents have become impatient with the lack
of progress.  In a move to pressure Condit into breaking his silence, the
Levys told reporters they believe it is a possibility
that 

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible ...

[flw]

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 Here's what I see happening. The special forces will kill off the leadership
 of all the terrorist groups possibly including Arafat. They will disarm all
 the militias and remove the secretly stored illegal weapons they have
 accumulated for war. If the other Arab states start making war noises, the
 Israelis will go to conventional war with Egypt, and Syria. They might enter
 Jordan and Lebanon too, but won't necessarily have to fight them.

 It is also a possibility that Israel will take the war to Iraq and Iran,
 depending on what secret weaponry they have cooking.
 J2

This is delusional. However this type of thinking is a good example
of why war happens and the human capacity to indulge in self deception.
Anyone who thinks Irrational Racialist Nationalism was / is somehow distinct
to German Society should ponder the above.

A belief in elite troops; a belief in national superiority and disdain for alleged
weak neighbors; grandiose war schemes; a belief in secret weapons
where have we heard this before???
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Re: [CTRL] Chandra Levy timeline (fwd)

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
There was a story where Chandra Levy's tickets were paid by Gary Condit.

Unless he charged them on his credit card, how would anyone know who paid
for them?

I'd like some substantiation to this 'story'...I find it highly unlikely
that he paid for the tickets.  Ms. Levy was not in desperate financial
straits, and neither are her parents, who conceivably would have paid for
their daughter's tickets if she herself could not afford them.


The fact his wife was there during this one period of time might be the
problem; for this little girl had lost her job, and Condit had promised
to get her into the CIA and/or FBI and it just doesn't work that way.

Where do you get that Chandra Levy lost her job?  She was a paid
intern, and her internship came to its end.

You DO understand what an internship is, don't you?


Condit twice has been labeled such a handsome man; he is in early 50 and
looks like he is more onto 70 - maybe too much night life.

He doesn't look like any 70-year-olds that I know.  He looks like he's in
his mid-50s, and he's reasonably good-looking if your tastes run to
plastic GQ-types (I myself prefer the 'mountain-man' type of rugged good
looks in men)...


If Chandra was being trained like a Monica Lewinsky, I wonder.   Her
mother wondered why the little girl dyed her hair black, for she had
such beautiful hair as it was

Perhaps Chandra was into goth...

What color was her natural hair?


 - and she worried re the Rose Tattoo she
one acquired when younger which sometimes is a symptom something wrong -
sailors used to get those when they were bombed out of their minds and
regretted same later.

I have a rose tattoo; it has a lightening bolt through the rose, and is
surrounded by the crescent moon and a couple of stars.

I was totally sober when I got it (indeed, I would have been refused
service if I'd been obviously 'under the influence', since the shop has
signs prominently displayed throughout the premises stating such); it was
a 30th birthday present...

Nothing sinister or occult (meaning 'hidden', not 'metaphysical')
regarding the image I chose...the rose is considered my 'birth flower'
and the moon is my 'birth planet', and I thought the design was pretty
(still do).

If Chandra Levy was into goth, that would explain both the tattoo and
dying her hair black.

Sometimes Aleisha, a cigar is just a cigar.



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Re: [CTRL] SMWS: Private dicks search toss intern's apartment; FOX: Condit Broke Off Friendship with Levy, Sources Say

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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Carolyn Condit lives most of the year in the small Stanislaus County town
of Ceres, but was staying in Washington with her husband the week of April
28 through May 3.  Levy was last seen April 30.

Has anyone determined just why Carolyn Condit came to D.C. that week?


The whole place was upside down, one landlord said.

Which would conviently obscure or even obliterate much evidence...


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Re: [CTRL] Seven Daily Posts to CTRL

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Steve wrote:
Prove just one thing for us, Saba. Send us a scan of your matches from
Truman's  plane and the cigarette lighter with the Presidential Seal, and I
will forever stop characterizing you privately as 'our favorite Internet
psychotic.' Then I just might start believing you are a psyop agent.  You say
you don't have access to a scanner?  ;-)

And one has to wonder why, for someone who has supposedly sojourned over
the years with such movers-and-shakers, and who claims one's near
siblings continue do so

...that she seems to have nothing else to do but spend all day at her
computer spewing out her insane steam-of-consciousness postings...

Seems to be a mighty lonely existence for someone who claims to have
been so close to such powerful people



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Re: [CTRL] Seven Daily Posts to CTRL

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
The matches are in a security box - they are white with red writing
saying Swiped from Harry Truman..I have a huge portrait of Truman
autograhed to my mother,  which my one sister got her.   I do not have a
scanner and in my possession here in my home, I do still have the
lighter and my picture John Glenn autographed and so did Annie for me,
and a personally autographed picture from Teedy Kennedy and picture of
RFK not autographed given to me at same time,

And how many ex-teenyboppers have autographed pictures of Frank
Sinatra or Elvis or Paul McCartney or David Cassidy or George Michael?
It doesn't mean that they ever actually MET these celebrities, it just
means they either joined a fan club or wrote a letter to the celebrity.
SOP is to have someone on the clerical staff handle this type of mail,
and SOP is to send a canned letter back thanking the fan for writing and
including an 'autographed' picture.

I could write to the White House today and ask for an autographed picture
of Bush, and I'd get one; would you then accept that as 'proof' that I
was a close friend of the Bush family?


I do not have to prove anything this is a conspiracy theory
list...

Yes, it is a list that discusses theory...that does not mean that people
claiming certain credentials aren't expected to provide some sort of
proof for their claims.


Want a picture of what I have here I imagine I could send a picture
through the mail for the portraint of Truman is much too large to run
through machine - it is his official portrait.

Bought at what auction?


Had beautiful portrait of John F. and Jackie Kennedy in color - a very
special portrait

Which thousands of other people also got when they wrote to the White
House from 1961 to 1963...


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Re: [CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Treated Like Trash

[Dale Stonehouse]

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Steve,

You are not the first to take issue with Saba and won't be the last, I'm
sure. I have been on both sides of her rants and hopefully that indicates
balance.

 -Original Message-
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 1. Learn to spell
 2. Learn to write coherently.
 3. Provide some refrences

Unless you are trying to look foolish, it might be best to just ignore or
delete things you don't like. Asking someone else to do something you are
not doing is hypocritical.

 you are:
 A gun toting,militaristic, homophobic, racist


This may or may not be true, but the idea that any human being knows what
another human being is thinking at any one time is illogical and not based
on reality. This is why I prefer first-person accounts of historical events
such as the moon landings or WWII. Even well-researched accounts by third
parties are subject to far-fetched guesses by the researchers as to the
motivation and thoughts of the participants. Even two participants of the
same event can have vastly different observations.

Labels are easy to apply but almost never accurate; they stop thinking dead
and I object to that.

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Re: [CTRL] TIME Magazine: When Did AIDS Begin? --PA

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
And stop calling my distant cousins and ancestors reptiles;

Yes, it's an insult to real reptiles who serve a useful function in this
world by keeping the rodent population at bay...

While you and your ancestors are nothing but parasites...


but the worse thing I ever did,  was
I ran out of toilet bowl cleaner, so put in a little chlorine and then
poured in the chlorax and ended up with the emergaency squad at my house
for I had made chlorine gase.

That perhaps goes a long way to explain your present mental state...



June

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Re: [CTRL] NM: On yellow traffic lights of four seconds or less: Safety, or PROFIT?: Armey Exposes Traffic-Lighr Spying

[MIKE SPITZER]

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- Original Message -
From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] NM: On yellow traffic lights of four seconds or less:
Safety, or PROFIT?: Armey Exposes Traffic-Lighr Spying

--- MIKE SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Privacy Center foundation worries that soon our cell phones will
 be tracking us.

  Getting rid of my cell phone was one of the most liberating things I
  ever did. Most common comment I get: What if your car breaks down?
  Since I do 99.44% of my driving in the greater New York metropolitan
  area, I'd be hard pressed to be more than a mile from a pay phone. Even
  having my children with me, a mile is not a problem.

A friend of mine also ditched his cell-phones a few years ago, for the same
reason.  He opted instead to subscribe to a national emergency service
(about $80 a year).  The yearly fee includes a phone to *use* (and all
accessories, i.e., batteries, 12 volt and AC rechargers, etc.).  It has 2
buttons on it; on/off, and one  that only dials 911 (it has the same amount
of buttons as any phone, but only two work.  It is meant to always be left
in your car (or any car you may be in), and used for emergencies only.
There is no additional cost to dial the nearest 911 to your current
location, no matter how many times you might want to do so.  It knows where
you are and where to dial.

Great idea, huh?!?

Btw, he says they are increasing sales by several hundred percent a year
(good stock purchase??), and he's been using it for a few years now.
Sorry, tho, as I can't remember the name of the company, but it is
something like National Emergency Phone Service???

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Re: [CTRL] I'm gay, it's OK!

[Bill Howard]

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In a message dated 6/27/01 7:23:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The UN wants to reduce the population of the earth. The more people that
get AIDS at a young age, the better. This will certainly help. 

Humm, cause and effect relationship, how nice.

 (CNSNews.com) - Pro-family conservatives are stepping up their
 efforts to thwart the National Education Association's expected push to
teach
 homosexuality in public schools.

This is an idea that I can back.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [corp-focus] You Don't Know Jack

[Tenorlove]

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 You Don't Know Jack
 By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

 The clock is running out for Jack Welch, CEO of General Electric. It
 is
 also winding down for Don Morrison, a dairy farmer in upstate New
 York.

 For two decades, Welch has led the one-time appliance company,
 transforming it into the world's most transnationalized conglomerate
 with
 a finance subsidiary as its profit center. The subject of almost
 unqualified adulation from the media and market analysts, he may end
 his
 tenure with a loud thud.

 Scheduled to retire this year, Welch extended his reign by an
 additional
 year to oversee GE's gobbling up of Honeywell. European regulators
 are now
 raising serious concerns about the monopolistic effects of the deal,
 and
 appear poised to block it. Welch, who has made his reputation by
 pushing
 all cost-cutting and market-dominating measures to the extreme, may
 find
 that, in his final act, the law and society finally set some limits
 on
 him.

 Don Morrison knows all too well the effect of Welch's hard-driving
 effort
 to cut expenses and externalize costs, and he hopes it is not only
 the
 European antitrust regulators who find the spine to stand up to
 Welch.

 The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is expected in August
 to
 issue a final decision on whether it will dredge the Hudson River to
 clean
 up a GE-created PCB mess on the river bed -- at a cost of $460
 million to
 GE.

 Until 1976, a broad array of U.S. manufacturers used PCBs
 (polychlorinated
 biphenyls) for insulation in electrical equipment. In 1976, Congress
 banned their manufacture and sale, following evidence that PCBs cause
 cancer and other harmful health effects. Since the banning, new
 evidence
 suggests PCBs also disrupt the endocrine system and lower
 intelligence
 levels of children exposed in the womb.

 From the 1940s to 1976, GE dumped 1.3 million pounds of PCBs into the
 Hudson River, creating what is now the nation's largest Superfund
 site.

 Don Morrison knows all about it. Twenty-five years ago, he says,
 the
 state dug sludge out of the river, and put it on land adjoining mine.
 I
 figured if they let them put it in the river, it can't be that bad.
 So it
 didn't bother me. É When they asked permission to push it [against my
 house], I said sure. My kids played in it, they grew up in it.

 Don Morrison's wife died of colon cancer at the age of 49. We can't
 prove
 it, but we believe that PCB had a tremendous amount to do with it.
 Now he
 lives in fear that his children will suffer from a similar fate.

 Morrison and other survivors want GE at least to remedy the problem,
 25
 years after PCBs were outlawed in the United States.

 In December 2000, EPA announced that it agreed, saying that after 16
 years
 of studies, it had determined to clean up a 40-mile stretch of the
 Hudson.
 Under the Superfund law, GE would be liable for the costs of cleanup.

 GE claims that it supports cleaning the river, and that it has acted
 responsibly to reduce its daily PCB pollution to three ounces. But it
 says
 dredging will stir up sediments and make the problem worse.

 EPA retorts that the ongoing public health and environmental
 consequences
 of the PCB pollution are severe, with PCBs at river bottom continuing
 to
 enter the food chain. New technologies, agency experts say, address
 concerns about spreading contaminants by dredging.

 But GE isn't just making arguments. In fine Jack Welch style, GE has
 pulled out all the stops to block the dredging plan. GE's Hudson
 River
 lobbying dream team includes former Senate Majority Leader George
 Mitchell
 and former House Appropriations Committee Chair Robert Livingston.
 Among
 other hardball tactics, the company deployed NBC President and GE
 Vice
 Chair Robert Wright to lobby New York City Council members against a
 bill
 endorsing the dredging project. (Think direct intervention from the
 head
 of a TV network, which owns a major station in New York, might give
 GE
 some leverage?)

 GE certainly has lots of friends in the Bush administration, and in
 the
 Congress.

 On the other hand, EPA chief Christine Todd Whitman endorsed the
 dredging
 when she was governor of New Jersey. And the Bush administration is
 under
 pressure not to announce any more environmentally stupid and harmful
 policy decisions with an obvious tilt to corporate interests. So the
 outcome of the final EPA decision remains very much in doubt.

 The GE of Jack Welch has made its mark by pushing it workers,
 suppliers
 and the law to the limit, and often beyond.

 But his strategies, though lavishly praised by Wall Street, are
 basically
 inhuman, as Don Morrison and many others can testify.

 As Jack Welch's reign comes to an end, it is time for the society to
 say
 the clock has run out on Welch's model of comprehensive and global
 management by stress. The first way to deliver that message is for
 EPA to
 authorize the go-ahead of the Hudson dredging, without 

Re: [CTRL] [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Little Rock arrests/ Gary Condit lunch partner 30 APRIL

[Jenny Decker]

Here's a fascinating site that offers an awesomely 
thorough and cross-charted namebase search in public records from Public 
Informartion Research:

http://www.pir.org/

I put in the names of both Dan Lasater and 
Gary Condit and came up with just one page--wait til you see 
it.

http://www.pir.org/cgi-bin/nbonlin1.cgi?RENO_JANET_

All the books and documents linked to this page are 
ALSO cross-charted. Keep scrolling down til you get to the individual names. 
Each book linked below the name is one in which this particular persons shady 
activities are documented. The person-to-person contacts documented in ALL the 
books are combined in a visual schematic that you go to by clicking on the 
person's name. How could Condit be so close to Janet Reno? If Condit had 
lunch with Lasater--the principle "Disappearer" for Arkansas's little Mena 
profit venture and for Washington's inside Democratic circle--the day before 
Chandra disappeared and the day after Condit broke it off with her (and probably 
tried to pay to silence her), then the method by which she was offed and 
disposed of becomes increasingly clear.Wonder where they dump their 
bodies? 
Jenny

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:12 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Little Rock 
  arrests/ Gary Condit lunch partner 30 APRIL
  Dan Lasater was a bond 
  broker in Little Rock who got busted for possession of cocaine, and for 
  giving it to teenage girls at an apartment in Little Rock in 1985. Lasater 
  paid for the apartment, but Bill Clinton's brother, Roger, actually lived 
  there. Roger was also busted. Lasater did some time in the federal 
  slammer, while Roger was confined to a half-way house. While Lasater 
  was in prison, his side-kick, Patsy Thomasson, ran his bond brokerage. 
  When Clinton was elected, he brought Ms. Thomasson to the White House in 
  1993, as "Director of Administration" (i.e., head of security). Later on, 
  Lasater started "Phoenix Mortgage Company," in Little Rock, which was a 
  drug-money laundry. For a short time, after he got out of jail, 
  Lasater lived at a lodge in the woods in western Arkansas, near Mena. The 
  property was owned by International Paper Co., one of the Rose Law Firm's 
  biggest clients. Hillary Clinton, Webb Hubbell, and Vince Foster were 
  partners at the Rose firm at the time. Lasater ran his money laundering 
  operation from the lodge. Lasater has been a close friend of Bill 
  Clinton's for years. He was also very close to the late James McDougal (of 
  Madison Guaranty Savings  Loan fame). Lasater is described by Chip 
  Tatum (an ex-Army pilot who, unwittingly it appears, flew numerous drug 
  runs to and from Central America in the '80s for Lasater and the Dixie 
  Mafia), as being the "Dr. Lasater" to whom certain cargo was delivered 
  from time to time in Arkansas. That cargo was usually in the form of large 
  styrofoam coolers marked "Medical Supplies." According to Tatum, one of 
  the coolers fell onto the tarmac, while it was in the process of being 
  loaded onto Tatum's helicopter, and burst open. The contents clearly had 
  "medicinal value," but could hardly have been accurately described as 
  being "Medical Supplies." The coolers contained tightly wrapped bags of 
  raw cocaine. Tatum relates that shortly after that happened, he 
  arrived at an airport near Little Rock, and was introduced to "Dr. 
  Lasater" (to whom the coolers were being shipped), Governor Clinton, and a 
  third man who became Clinton's FEMA Director in 1993. The three were there 
  to meet the helicopter. Anyone who has more and/or better information 
  should certainly feel free to redact what I've written. R. 
  Odom 
  


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[CTRL] Jerusalemites observe general strike on annexation anniversary (fwd)

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Jerusalemites observe general strike on annexation anniversary

Occupied Jerusalem: 28 June, 2001 (IAP News) - A general strike was
observed in East al-Quds Thursday on the 34th anniversary of the
annexation by the Zionist regime of the Arab-Islamic town following the
1967 war.

The strike, called for by a coalition of nationalist and Islamic forces,
was apparently meant to reassert Palestinian rejection of all Judaization
of the Arab-Islamic town and  their determination to liberate the holy city
from Zionist shackles sooner or later.

This is  an Arab- Islamic town, it is the heart of Palestine, and Arabs
and Muslims will not rest until they recover it from the hands of the
oppressors, said the Mufti of al-Quds, Ikrema Sabri, in a special
interview with the Voice of Palestine.

Christian Orthodox leader in Jerusalem  Rev. Hanna Atalla voiced a similar
position.

As Christians of the Holy Land, we shall not rest until we see the end of
the Zionist occupation of Al-Quds.

The Zionist Regime annexed the city only three weeks after the 1967
Arab-Israeli war.

Since then, successive Zionist governments have made frenzied efforts to
obliterate the Arab-Islamic identity of al-Quds, through ethnic cleansing,
house demolition and land confiscation.

According to Khalil Tufakji, head of the cartography department at the Arab
Studies Center at Orient House in Alqods, the Zionist regime expropriated
35% (24 sq. kilometers) of al-Quds' total area.

A further 40% of the town's open space was declared green area, a ruse to
block Arab demographic growth in the city.

Since 1967, the Zionist regime built 180,000 settler units in East al-Quds
whereas the Palestinians were allowed to build no more than 27,000 housing
units.

Furthermore, over 12,000 Palestinians were banished from the town for a
variety of reasons, especially the confiscation by the Zionists of their
residency rights.

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[CTRL] Brit MP Files Early Day Motion on Ariel Sharon and Panorama (fwd)

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British MP Files Early Day Motion on Ariel Sharon and Panorama

LONDON- June 28, 2001 (IAP News) Recently, British Labour Party MP John
Austin filed an Early Day Motion in the British House of Commons
congratulating BBC's Panorama show for its June 17th program entitled The
Accused. That episode investigated the responsibility of Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon for the massacre which occurred in the Palestinian
refugee camps of Sabra and Chatila in South Lebanon in 1982.  The motion
also called for Ariel Sharon to be tried for war crimes, a sentiment
shared by several experts in international law.

During an interview on the Panorama show, Richard Falk, Professor of
International Law at Princeton University stated: There is no question in
my mind that he is indictable for the knowledge he had or should have had.
Sharon's specific command responsibility arises from the fact that he was
the minister of defence in touch with the field commanders, that he
actually was present there in Beirut.

Professor Falk was also vice chairman of an international commission which
investigated Israel's invasion of Lebanon.

On the same show, Judge Richard Goldstone, former chief prosecutor for the
UN criminal tribunals for both the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda stated:
If the person who gave the command knows, or should know on the facts
available to him or her, that is a situation where innocent civilians are
going to be injured or killed, then that person is as responsible, in fact
in my book more responsible even than the people who carry out the order.

Early Day Motion, or EDM, is the term used to describe notices of motions
given by Members that are not generally expected to be debated.
Effectively, the tabling of an EDM is a device to draw attention to an
issue, and to elicit support for it by the means of inviting other Members
to add their signatures to the motion.

The following is the full text of the Early Day Motion:

That this House congratulates the BBC for Panorama's recent in-depth
analysis of the massacres in Sabra and Shatilla during the war in Lebanon
in 1982; notes that following the massacres an internal Israeli commission
of inquiry forced the resignation of the then Israeli Defence Minister,
Ariel Sharon; believes there is sufficient prima facie evidence to
indicate that Ariel Sharon, now the Israeli Prime Minister, should be
tried for war crimes; and calls upon the international community to ensure
that he is duly charged at the earliest possible opportunity.

Mr. Austin is also the Chairman of the Council for the Advancement of
Arab-British Understanding (CAABU) which was formed after the 1967 Middle
East war, when a questionnaire revealed that 98 per cent of the British
public had no knowledge of the Arab world. The purpose of the CAABU is to
present the Arab perspective on a variety of issues in the UK and thus
advance understanding and bridge the gaps between the Arab and British
peoples.

On the web: http://www.caabu.org/

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[CTRL] Bush's Judgment of Putin

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Bush's Judgment of Putin

By Michael Kelly

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ipmk/20010626/cm/bush_s_judgment_of_putin_1.html

``I looked the man in the eye; I found him to be very straightforward and
trustworthy. ... I was able to get a sense of his soul. ... He's an
honest, straightforward man who loves his country. He loves his family. We
share a lot of values.''

--George W. Bush, June 16, 2001, on Russian President Vladimir Putin


``Mr. Putin was far from deserving the powerful political prestige and
influence that comes from an excessively personal endorsement by the
president of the United States.''

--Sen. Jesse M. Helms, June 20, 2001


To understand what put Sen. Helms in such a tizzy that he felt compelled
to publicly spank a president of his own party, you have to first consider
the matter of Sammy Sosa.

In 1989, Sammy Sosa played for the Texas Rangers, a baseball team
partially owned by one George W. Bush. Bush, who had only recently been
made the Rangers' chief executive and who had much to learn, took a sense
of Sosa's soul, and traded him to the Chicago White Sox. Considering that
nine years later with the Chicago Cubs, Sosa was in a chase for the home
run record, this was a mistake.

To further grasp the implications of Bush's judgment of Putin, and of
Helms' unhappiness over that judgment, you have to consider that baseball
was something with which Bush had some experience. He came from a baseball
family--his father played for Yale; his great-uncle George Herbert Walker
once owned 6 percent of the New York Mets--and he had played the game
himself in Little League and on a varsity level at prep school. He was a
lifelong avid fan, and he would turn out to be a natural at running a ball
team.

As the Putin example shows, Bush puts great stock in his gut instinct--his
ability to look into other people's eyes (he is forever talking about
this) and getting a sense of their souls. As the Sosa example shows, he is
quite capable of getting the sense completely wrong--even where he is
knowledgeable.

Now, you come to the presidency, Russia and Putin. Here, inarguably, Bush
knows very little. He cannot know a lot (at least firsthand) about being
president, because he has not been president for very long. He cannot know
a lot about Russia, because he had never been there. He cannot know a lot
about Putin, because he had never met him before this month's trip.

So what you have here is a situation where a prudent man would begin by
knowing his limitations--by admitting ignorance, proceeding with study and
basing eventual judgments on facts, not first impressions.

Vladimir Putin may be, as Bush feels, an honest, straightforward guy with
a perfectly swell soul who loves his family. On the other hand, he
indisputably is a guy who was willing to crush a rebellion in Chechnya
with vast and murderous force, to shut down the only independent
television network when that network criticized his government, to violate
arms-control treaties and to continue Russia's practice of selling arms to
states hostile to the United States. Also, he spent most of his career in
the service of the Soviet Union's KGB, which calls the quality-of-soul
issue into some doubt.

The worrisome thing about Bush is not, as his reactionary critics have it,
that he is an idiot who can't get anything right. He has, especially in
foreign policy, gotten it mostly right. He effectively warned China not to
try to eat Taiwan, which may avert a war. He moved the international
conversation on global warming out of a dead end by burying the dead Kyoto
protocol. He insisted on moving ahead with a necessary missile defense
against rogue nations. He has made these decisions largely, it seems, on
gut, and his gut serves him well.

No, what is worrisome is that Bush--and in this he seems dangerously to
resemble the foreign-policy-disaster-prone John F. Kennedy--does not seem
to understand, or care about, the limits of gut. He does not seem to want
to bother with the tedious business of study and fact-assessment that is
the process by which right decisions are most often arrived at--which is
even then not so often. He does not seem to want to work at the thing.

The idea that he does not know what he does not know does not seem to ever
occur to Bush. This is a problem and one that is a great deal more
consequential in the case of Putin than in the case of Sosa.

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[CTRL] Palestinians forced to swallow pride and accept handouts

[Yardbird]

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Palestinians forced to swallow pride and accept handouts

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,513581,00.html

Israeli blockade robs people of jobs and leaves them dependent on UN food
parcels

Special report: Israel and the Middle East

Ewen MacAskill in Jerusalem
Thursday June 28, 2001
The Guardian

Flour-covered UN workers distributing sacks of food in and around the
Israeli-occupied parts of the West Bank and Gaza are a potent symbol of
the sudden descent of much of the Palestinian population into poverty.
Before the intifada began last September, the number of Palestinians
lining up for food sacks from the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine
Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) was relatively small, restricted to a
few cases of hardship. Now a substantial majority queue for aid, says
UNRWA.

The situation of many Palestinians has deteriorated sharply in recent
months.

Sami Mshasha, an UNRWA official in Jerusalem, said that food sacks were
being distributed to about 217,000 families throughout the West Bank and
Gaza. But shortage of funds, despite an international appeal, means such
deliveries are restricted to three-month intervals.

Israel's sealing off of the entire Gaza Strip, and many towns and villages
on the West Bank - Hebron was again added to the list this week - has
halted most economic activity in many places.

Entrances to these sealed-off towns and villages are blocked with mounds
of earth or concrete blocks, and the Israeli army allows few, if any,
people either in or out.

The Palestinians have made the lifting of the blockades a priority if
peace talks are to go ahead.

The food parcels are modest: comprising flour, lentils, sugar, cooking
oil, dried milk, rice and 150 shekels (about 25). But with many
Palestinians unable to cross the blockade and travel to work, the handouts
are a form of subsistence.

At Jalazun, north of Ramallah on the West Bank, the arrival of the UN
vehicles also brings noisy confusion. With flour clouding the air, the
sweating aid workers pass sack after sack from the back of lorries to the
men, women and children waiting below.

It is a scene that the Palestinian Authority should welcome as a useful
piece of propaganda. But press coverage of the convoys is discouraged
because the recipients often feel humiliated: their attitude is that food
aid is something for poor African countries, not for Palestinians.

Palestinian youths in Jalazun reflect this attitude and become aggressive
when a photographer takes shots of the food distribution.

Among the women lining up was mother of six Nuriddin Kharoub, 46, who
admitted feeling humiliated.

I am embarrassed. It is like begging, she says. Who wants to be like a
beggar?

The food convoys are irregular; this delivery is the first since January.

The parcel will only last 15 days, says Ms Kharoub. This is not enough
for 11 people living in a house.

Her husband had been employed in Israel but has not worked since the
intifada began. Everyone these days is poor, she says.

Mahmoud Annti, 37, was the only man in the queue willing to talk: I am
depressed about it. I am ashamed to have to come here. There is no
alternative but to queue.

Like many other men in Jalazun, Mr Annti was a construction worker, mainly
building houses in Israel or for Jewish settlements on the West Bank.

I was earning 1,300 to 1,500 shekels. And now I have to make do with 150
shekels - for three months.

I have taken a loan and got 5,000 shekels into debt. I had a little
before - 5,000 in savings - but that has gone. It ran out three months
ago.

Exhausting their savings on which many Palestinians had depended through
the first few months of the intifada partly explains the sudden economic
deterioration.

In Jerusalem, Dr Mhadhi Abdul Hadi, head of the Palestinian Academic
Society for the Study of International Affairs, said that there is no
Palestinian economy left.

There is no work whatsoever. The number under the poverty line is up to
70% now. According to the World Bank, before the intifada, it was 40%, he
said.

The UNRWA official, Mr Mshasha offers different figures, ranging from 28%
to 37% below the poverty line.

Tel Aviv partly blames the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat, for failing
to create a more robust economy in the past decade as president of a
corruption-riddled Palestinian Authority.

The Palestinians agree, in part, but reply that building a proper economy
was impossible as long as Israel remained in control.

The Israeli foreign minister, Shimon Peres, acknowledged the Palestinian
suffering this week when he said he was deeply worried by events in the
West Bank and Gaza.

Israel doesn't know what's going on there, that unemployment has reached
40%. There is a moral problem and a political problem, he was quoted as
saying in the Ha'aretz daily.

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Re: [CTRL] Bush's Judgment of Putin

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I'm no Bush fan or supporter but this is the stupidest Bush-bash I've seen
yet. Impossible though it may seem this writer is even less aware than
his/her target. Bush's gut is a lot more credible than this crap.

 The idea that he does not know what he does not know does not
 seem to ever
 occur to Bush. This is a problem and one that is a great deal more
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[CTRL] HEY, you guys! Re: 7 posts/day

[MIKE SPITZER]

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It's really not a bad rule.


Kris warmed me SEVERAL TIMES not to violate the 7 post per day thing, and I
guess I F'ed up, he told me to DISPERSE THEM over AT LEAST several hours!

I've been off-line for several days, BUT, I swear, I posted TEN LAST
NIGHT (i.e., BEFORE THE DATE CHANGED??), and 10 AFTER MIDNIGHTbut,
alas, they all posted AFTER MIDNIGHT.

I don't quite yet understand how $h!t posts, and when, BUT...I AM TRYING!!

Look, I was away for a few days, and MANY posts got ahead of me, but, if I
told you how much GOOD $h!t, stuff that I missed posting  cuz I was away
(i.e., there seems to have been A LOT of heavy-news-days since I've been
away, these last several), you wouldn't believe even believe me  (i.e., I
am gunna try to bleed a few of the best onto the list over the next day or
two).

BUT, it don't happen often (that I violate the 7/day rule)...AND, it's
kinda weird that Steve happened to bring this up when I have been away,
BUT, it AIN'T a regular thing, that I post more than 7 per daySO,
please forgive me.

Mike


P.S.  I happen to be of the opinion that SEVEN/DAY *IS* a tad too low,
i.e., TEN seems better to me, BUT IT AIN'T MY LIST, and I *DO* understand
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[CTRL] Breaking: NYDN: Condit to Fox news: That report is absolutely, factually wrong,

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[I told you guys that there was A LOT of good news since I've been gone.
However, the following has a publication date of 6/28/01.  --MS]



Police Told Cops He Rejected Intern: Report

By HELEN KENNEDY
New York Daily News Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON--Rep.  Gary Condit told police an obsessed Chandra Levy became
distraught when he broke off their relationship two days before she
vanished, Fox News reported last night.

But the California congressman's spokesman bitterly disputed the account.

That report is absolutely, factually wrong, said Condit's chief of staff,
Mike Lynch.  It's invented out of whole cloth.  It's totally out of sync
with what happened.

A Washington police spokesman would not confirm or deny the new account of
Condit's hour-long police interview Saturday.  Fox stood by its story.

Fox quoted police sources as saying that Condit, without admitting an
affair, told detectives that he broke off his close friendship with Levy
on April 29.

Condit told police the 24-year-old intern was extremely upset and called
him several times on April 30, but he did not return the calls, Fox
reported.

Levy vanished the next morning after sending her mother a 10:45 a.m.
e-mail about airline ticket prices.  She was never heard from again.

Levy's family says she had told them she was having an affair with Condit,
and they suspect he knows more than he has said about her disappearance.
They have hired a lawyer and investigative team to hunt for clues.

Condit has repeatedly denied through aides that he was romantically
involved with Levy.

Lynch said Condit lawyer Abbe Lowell, who sat in on the congressman's
police interview, assured him Condit never discussed breaking off a
relationship and never described Levy as distraught or obsessed.

Either the police sources or the reporter were smoking something that was
probably illegal, Lynch said.

Condit's spokesman and lawyer would not reveal what he did say.

Far from distraught, Levy appeared to be chatty and in fine spirits before
she disappeared, according to a witness who saw her the evening after the
alleged confrontation.

She was excited about going home to California, said one staff member at
the Washington Sports Club, where Levy went to cancel her membership at
7:30 p.m.  on April 30.  That's why the suggestion of suicide always
baffled me.  She seemed to have way too much going on.

Police trying to nail down Levy's last movements are seeking to interview
Condit's wife, Carolyn, who arrived in Washington on a rare visit to the
capital on April 28.

Meanwhile, investigators are quietly sifting through Condit's personal
life.

The FBI in Seattle has interviewed a United Airlines flight attendant, who
told them she ended a year-long romance with Condit after reports surfaced
linking Levy to the congressman.  She said Condit had told her he was
separated.

The flight attendant is upset because her roommates sold her confidences to
the Star supermarket tabloid for $2,500, said her lawyer, Jim Robinson of
Seattle.

My client is not a public figure.  She is a private individual and intends
to remain so, he said, declining to comment further.



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[CTRL] WSJ: No Microsoft breakup; Appeals court vacates ruling!

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[No Microsoft breakup.  Appeals court vacates ruling!!!  P.S. I told you
guys that there was A LOT of good $h!t in the last couple days!  --MS]

June 28, 2001

Appeals Court Issues Mixed Ruling In the Microsoft Antitrust Case

A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE

News Roundup


WASHINGTON -- A federal appeals court affirmed part and reversed part of a
lower court's Microsoft Corp.  antitrust decision.

More details were expected shortly.  The ruling came with little warning.
In a notice issued earlier this month, the U.S.  Court of Appeals for the
D.C. Circuit said that although the court usually issues rulings on
Tuesdays and Fridays, that usual practice may not be followed in this
case. Microsoft watchers had been keeping an eye out for a ruling for
several weeks.


Long Battle

The current battle between the Justice Department and Microsoft began in
late October 1997.  The nearly four years since the case was filed have
brought a host of changes: The U.S.  has changed presidents, attorney
generals and antitrust chiefs, Bill Gates changed job titles, and the
company most poised to benefit from the case -- Netscape Communications
Corp.  -- no longer exists as an independent entity.  And while the
Internet revolution continues apace, the boom in technology stocks that it
fueled has petered out, leaving profitability and caution as the watchwords
of the day.

The legal war has been fought in a number of different courts, with
different charges filed by the government.  But the contention of the
government remains the same: that Microsoft illegally used its dominant
market position in personal-computer operating systems to try and expand
into other technologies.  And Microsoft's defense remains the same: that it
can't survive in the cutthroat tech industry unless it has the freedom to
add new features to those operating systems.

In 1994, Microsoft settled government charges that it had illegally
exploited a monopoly over operating systems, agreeing to change some
contracts with PC makers and eliminate some restrictions on software
makers.  But then came the Web browser, first popularized by Netscape
Communications.  The Web browser replaced complex code with mouse clicks
and opened up the Internet to ordinary people with home PCs -- and also
struck Microsoft as a possible replacement for a PC's operating system.  So
the company worked to create its own Web browser -- Internet Explorer --
and that's where it ran afoul of the Justice Department.

The fall 1997 charges were narrow: Microsoft, the government charged, had
violated the 1994 consent decree by forcing PC makers to use Internet
Explorer if they wanted to offer the Windows 95 operating system.  But
Microsoft fought back furiously, contending that it couldn't maintain its
operating-system dominance unless it had the freedom to constantly
incorporate new features to it.

But the way Microsoft did battle set an unfortunate precedent for the
company.  In December 1997, U.S.  District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson
issued a preliminary injunction ordering the company to stop requiring
companies that sold machines with Windows to also install Internet Explorer
on those machines.  Microsoft complied -- but offered PC makers a choice
between offering Windows 95 with Internet Explorer and offering a version
of Windows that the company warned wouldn't work properly.  The press
dubbed that compliance with a raised middle finger, and Judge Jackson
would remember it throughout the trial that followed.

Another important theme in the legal battle also was first heard quite
early:

In June 1998, an appeals-court panel threw out Judge Jackson's preliminary
injunction.  The panel ruled that the judge exceeded his authority in
asking for it and said it was inclined to conclude that the combination of
Windows and Internet Explorer was an integrated product that Microsoft
could offer under the terms of the consent decree.  It was the full
appelate panel of that same court that is issuing Thursday's ruling.

By June 1998, however, the stakes had changed dramatically.  In May, the
Justice Department and 20 states (one, South Carolina, would later drop the
case) filed a sweeping antitrust suit that went far beyond just Web
browsers.

The suit charged Microsoft with crushing competition and stifling
innovation in a number of software markets and sought extraordinary changes
in its business practices.  Besides waging war on Netscape, the government
charged, Microsoft sought to hobble Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Java
programming language and struck exclusionary agreements with online service
providers and providers of online content and entertainment.


A Bruising Trial

The various phases of the trial would be dominated by two men.  The first
dominant figure was David Boies, the Justice Department's lead lawyer, who
proved remarkably deft at cross-examination.  He eviscerated Microsoft
witnesses time and time again with their own e-mail messages, hanged them
on bald 

[CTRL] LAT: Roger Clinton Linked to New Clemency Case

[MIKE SPITZER]

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[In my continuing effort to catch upI offer the following (more good
stuff)...  --MS]


http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates2/lat_clinton010628.htm

Los Angeles Times
Thursday, June 28, 2001

Roger Clinton Linked to New Clemency Case

By RICHARD A. SERRANO
Times Staff Writer


WASHINGTON--Congressional investigators examining the Clinton pardon
scandal said Wednesday that they have unearthed new evidence suggesting
that former President Clinton's half-brother, Roger, may have been paid
$50,000 for attempting to secure a clemency on behalf of a convicted New
Jersey heroin trafficker.

Investigators said they also have discovered a couple hundred grand in
unexplained traveler's checks that Roger Clinton cashed that were sent from
Hong Kong, China and Venezuela.

The new evidence came to light after the House Government Reform Committee
subpoenaed Roger Clinton's bank records and found a $50,000 check sent to
him by a relative of Rosario Gambino, who is serving 45 years in prison for
his conviction in what authorities said was a major drug operation on the
East Coast.
Authorities have said that Gambino is a distant cousin of the late mob boss
Carlo Gambino and a member of the Gambino organized crime family.

In addition, the committee said it learned that Gambino's name was on a
list with several other criminal defendants that the Clinton White House
sent to the Justice Department in January for criminal background checks.
The list included names under consideration for presidential pardons or
commutations in Bill Clinton's last days in office.

Roger Clinton, who has steadfastly denied receiving any money for pardons
or other favors through his brother, is increasingly becoming a central
figure both in the committee's review as well as a criminal investigation
underway by the U.S.  attorney's office and a federal grand jury in New
York.

Several people have come forward in recent months to say they paid Roger
Clinton or a group of his close associates large sums of money in return
for pardons, commutations or special diplomatic passports.  Roger Clinton
himself got a pardon from his brother for his 1985 drug conviction.

Just last week, Garland Lincecum, in federal prison for fraud, told The
Times that he and his family turned over $235,000 to an Arkansas company
that he understood had ties to Roger Clinton, and that the president's
half-brother would get him a pardon.  No pardon was granted.

Likewise, committee sources said, no clemency was ever given to Gambino.

Mark Corallo, chief spokesman for the House Government Reform Committee,
said the panel's investigators have tried repeatedly to get Roger Clinton
to cooperate with them in their review.  But at each step, he has refused
to be interviewed or asked questions, and his lawyers have indicated that,
if called to testify, he would plead the 5th Amendment against
incriminating himself.

The most recent affront to the committee, Corallo said, was when Roger
Clinton appeared on a television program last week and denied that any
money was exchanged or given to him for pardons or other presidential
favors.

So we wrote him another letter, and we had some very pointed questions for
him, Corallo said.
We asked him, 'What did you do to get this $50,000 payment?  Did you do
any work for the Gambino family?  Is this $50,000 in return for that work?'
That check, that $50,000, was the real eye-popper for us.
Corallo said the reason the $50,000 stood out was because Roger Clinton
otherwise seemed to have no steady means of financial support, and yet was
living rather well in Southern California.

He said the check was signed by Anna Gambino, whom he described as
Rosario's daughter, and drawn on a company owned by the Gambino family.

He said it was made out to a music-related business that Roger Clinton
controls.
Well, we decided to check it out ourselves, and it traced back to Rosario
Gambino, Corallo said.  Now we want to know how he can explain this
money.

Corallo said investigators also want an explanation for the source of the
traveler's checks, which he described as worth a couple hundred grand and
that had been endorsed twice by Roger Clinton and cashed.
How and why did this guy get a couple hundred grand? Corallo said.

Roger Clinton's lawyer, Bart H.  Williams, could not be reached for comment
Wednesday night.  But he told the New York Times that while his client and
Gambino's son Tommy have been friends for many years, the $50,000 payment
was not in return for a clemency for Rosario Gambino.

However, Williams acknowledged that Roger Clinton wrote a letter to the
parole commission several years ago on behalf of Rosario Gambino.

A former resident of Cherry Hill, N.J., Gambino was convicted in 1984 of
conspiracy to distribute heroin and possession of heroin with intent to
distribute it.

He remains in prison, and could not be contacted Wednesday.

Corallo said that the committee is moving ahead even without Roger
Clinton's 

[CTRL] NM: Roger Clinton Caught with $200,000 in ChiCom Cash

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http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/6/28/124224

NewsMax
Thursday June 28, 2001; 1:40 p.m. EDT

Roger Clinton Caught with $200,000 in ChiCom Cash


Congressional investigators have found at least $200,000 in cash from
Communist Chinese sources in the bank account of former first brother Roger
Clinton, a development that could spell major trouble for his brother,
ex-President Clinton.

Investigators said they have discovered 'a couple hundred grand' in
unexplained traveler's checks that Roger Clinton cashed that were sent from
Hong Kong, China and Venezuela, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday.

The House committee's discovery of Clinton's Chinese cash connection lends
credence to earlier reports by NewsMax.com and WABC Radio in New York,
where witnesses were quoted saying that Roger and his business partners
were doing a lucrative business with Beijing.

This past weekend, Mississippi businessman R.V.  Wilson told WABC's John
Batchelor and Paul Alexander that in June 1999, Roger's business partners
tried to get him to bankroll a plan to import building materials from
China; an arrangement they said had been facilitated by then-President Bill
Clinton.

They told me right off the bat that Bill Clinton made arrangements with
the Chinese when he was over there for his brother to be their principal
agent in the United States, Wilson said.

It would be very difficult for a man off the street to go to China and
start buying things, the construction executive added.  But if you went
in there with the recommendation of the president of the United States,
then the market would have been open for you and [the Chinese] would have
dealt with you.

During one bombshell exchange with the radio hosts, Wilson said that
President Clinton himself was slated to get a cut of any profits from his
brother's China dealings.

BATCHELOR: Now, one thing, R.V.  In your discussions with them about the
building materials, did they ever indicate that any of this money was going
to be going to Bill Clinton as well as Roger Clinton?

WILSON: Absolutely.

ALEXANDER: Wow!  R.V., say what?

BATCHELOR: Wait a minute.  Hold on.  Let's review again.  What did they say
about where the money you were going to make was going?  They said it was
going to them at CLM but was there money going to Bill Clinton also?

WILSON: The money that I was going to make was going to go into my pocket.

BATCHELOR: Right.

WILSON: The money they were going to make was CLM.  And they told me that
we've got this organization and blah, blah, blah, blah.  We've got our
credit cards, you know.  And here they go.

ALEXANDER: Did they tell you that Bill Clinton would participate in their
profits?

WILSON: No.  They didn't say that Bill Clinton was participating.  But let
me say this.  I was told, before the money was sent, that, for instance,
one day Lynn [Garland Lincecum] came by and he needed some money because
Mr.  Morton had called him and said that Roger was upset.  He wanted that
money now because Bill needed it to pay some girl or something in Little
Rock or somewhere.  A judgement had been made against him and he needed
that money now.

(End of Excerpt)

Key Pardongate accuser Garland Lincecum told WABC on Friday that in 1999,
he received a 2 a.m.  call from Clinton business partner Dickey Morton, who
was in China.  Morton said that thanks to the then-president's help, they
were dealing directly with the fourth most powerful government official in
Beijing.

The Communist Chinese cash was discovered in Roger Clinton's bank account
after House investigators subpoenaed his bank records.

In April, the Wall Street Journal's John Fund told Fox News Channel that
prosecuters in New York had reviewed bank records for Clinton's business
that showed accounts worth $30 million.

Lincecum's attorney Ed Hayes suggested that figure could be too low,
telling WABC that, according to his sources, Clinton's business records
showed hundreds of millions of dollars in activity.

It's not clear whether investigators will attempt to corroborate Mr.
Wilson's account by subpoenaing the former president's bank records as
well.
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That being said, 

[CTRL] TH: Press faces backlash for its paparazzi pursuit of Condit

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Press faces backlash for its paparazzi pursuit of Condit

By Betsy Rothstein
The Hill

In Washington, people's lives are destroyed for sport. - Vince Foster in
his 1993 suicide note.

Sometimes silence isn't so golden.

Try asking Rep.  Gary Condit (D-Calif.), a politician who has become a
prisoner in his own institution as the result of his relationship to the
missing Federal Bureau of Prisons intern, Chandra Levy, and defiance toward
a press corps made only more rabid by his silence.

For eight weeks, Condit has spoken about the missing 24-year-old woman
through the filter of top aides on his congressional staff and his lawyers.
Some members of Congress watch with disdain for what is happening to Condit
and insist that members of the media will pay a price for their relentless
pursuit of their colleague.

I predict there will be a backlash against the press because of the way
they are hounding him, said Rep.  Collin Peterson (D-Minn.), a close
friend of Condit.

Camera crews have camped outside Condit's Rayburn Building office and his
Adams Morgan condo.  They monitor his every move.  They chase him down long
hallways to votes and to the concrete door of the House gym -
a place where Condit seeks refuge from staff and media.  On Monday, TV
camera crews stationed outside Condit's office were moved when other
members on the hallway complained, said Mike Dayton, an aide in Condit's
Washington office.

PATRICK G.  RYAN Lawyer Billy Martin (left) appears with Chandra Levy's
parents to announce that he is starting his own investigation.




In one of his first acts since Levy's disappearance on April 30, Condit had
his California lawyer, Joe Cotchett, request retractions from various media
outlets, including The Washington Post for reporting that Condit told
police that Levy spent the night at his condo.  The newspaper stands by its
story, but Condit aides deny that Condit ever told police that such a
sleepover occurred.
The police have said that Condit is not the subject of a criminal
investigation.
Mike Lynch, Condit's chief of staff, is frustrated by the media coverage,
but knows he can't quell it.  The media is having a temper tantrum, Lynch
told The Hill.  About four weeks ago it [the media] decided that Gary
Condit was connected to the disappearance of Chandra Levy, and it is on TV
every night and they will bend and invent and distort data to invent that
position.

He added, Unfortunately for them, they are getting more desperate as time
goes on that there is no connection, there has never been a connection and
there will never be a connection.  So they're strung out.

As for why Condit has not responded personally to press requests, Lynch
explained: He just thinks it's irresponsible to make comments in an
ongoing investigation and has always abided by that.  He has always been
careful not to trifle with ongoing police work, probably because his
brother is a [Modesto] police officer.

Lynch said the pursuit by Condit's California lawyer, Joe Cotchett, to
obtain retractions and file possible lawsuits against some media outlets
will continue.  The caterwauling of the media is something I have not seen
before, said Lynch.  Now they are reporting rumor and innuendoes.  That's
their game.  That's what they want to do.  Nobody can stop them, and as it
goes on, more and more people will lose confidence in the media.  I don't
know if that's better or worse for the nation.

Lynch cited The Washington Post, NBC Television, the New York Daily News
and Channel 3 in Sacramento as news organizations that are being pursued by
Cotchett.

This is a case of press overreaction, said Lynch, adding that last week
when detectives dropped by Condit's D.C.  office unannounced, Condit was
either boarding a plane in San Francisco or en route to Washington, D.C.
It's reported as detectives drop by and Condit refused to speak.  It's
technically accurate, but they don't say he was 3,000 miles away in
California.

Lynch said he tries to keep his composure when dealing with the media.
Well, you get angry, but there's nothing you can do about it.

While members of the media have reported that Condit's silence indicates
his culpability, many lawmakers share a different perspective.

The bottom line, Gary has an obligation to cooperate with the legal system
and I believe he's doing that, and that is what he's got an obligation to
do, said Rep.  Chris Shays (R-Conn.).  The press accounts have been
extraordinary given that Gary has been cooperating with the legal
authorities and they said he wasn't the subject of their investigation.

He added, I consider him a close friend.  I believe that he's honest and
forthright.

Rep.  Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), who chairs the GOP communications Theme Team,
said the treatment of Condit by the media only further exemplifies the
piranha-like atmosphere that already exists in Washington.

While they [the media] haven't convicted him, they are certainly painting
this picture of him being 

[CTRL] It's time to remove the criminal name of Dulles from all honors.

[Nurev Ind.]

-Caveat Lector-

Crime So Immense
Texas Observer, May 26, 2000
Author:  James Galbraith

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) knew that the Bay of Pigs Invasion
would fail but ordered it forward without passing this information on to
President Kennedy, in hopes of promoting a full-scale invasion. When
Kennedy refused to wage an air strike of Cuba, the CIA blamed him for the
failure.
 The CIA knew in advance that the date of the invasion had been
leaked to the Russians, who had in turn relayed that information to Castro.
In spite of this information, the head of the CIA, Allen Dulles, ordered
the Bay of Pigs Operation forward. The CIA's intention was for Kennedy to
send in jets to bomb Cuba and for the Marines to join the brigade already
on land. If this had happened the survivors would have been placed in a
Cuban prison, which would have created an uproar by the American public and
forced Kennedy to order a full-scale invasion.  High-ranking officials
within the CIA spread the myth that Kennedy was responsible for the failure
of the invasion.  Many Cubans continue to hold this belief when, in truth,
the betrayal lies with Allen Dulles and the CIA.

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[CTRL] Pentagon trains tech for war

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Pentagon trains tech for war
:

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2780115,00.html

Reuters
June 26, 2001 8:09 AM PT

WASHINGTON--The Defense Department said on Tuesday it was pouring
research dollars into high-energy lasers, microwave systems and a host
of other advanced gizmos designed to win 21st-century wars more
quickly and decisively than ever.

Development of such things as unmanned systems for land, air, space,
sea and underwater was to counter the spread of asymmetric threats
to U.S. forces in the past decade, Pentagon officials told Congress.

Among these they cited ballistic missiles, possibly tipped with
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons; keyboard-launched
information operations, for instance against U.S. military
satellites, and terrorism.

Future adversaries will increasingly rely on unconventional
strategies and tactics to offset the superiority of U.S. forces,
Edward Aldridge, the Pentagon's new chief weapons buyer, said in
testimony prepared for the House Armed Services Research and
Development Subcommittee. We must be conscious of these threats as we
foster technology breakthroughs ... to cope with that environment.

Aldridge did not spell out precisely how much was being spent in his
joint statement with Delores Etter, deputy director of defense
research and engineering. But they said basic defense science and
technology research accounts for about 40 percent of federal support
for all engineering research in universities.

Revolutionary war-fighting concepts

All told, the Defense Department employs 28,500 scientists and
engineers in its 84 labs and research and development centers, down 42
percent from 43,800 at the end of 1990, they said.

Aldridge divided U.S. needs into three categories: hard problems, or
significant technical challenges that, if solved, would check a
significant threat; revolutionary war-fighting concepts, and
militarily significant research areas.

Hard problems include developing a remote capability to detect and
identify potentially toxic chemical and biological agents and to
forecast their dispersion through a battlefield. Another such
challenge is coming up with munitions capable of knocking out deeply
buried targets.

For revolutionary war-fighting concepts, new technologies are being
worked on for fuller dominance of space. Key areas include
affordable space transportation including advanced propulsion and
long-lasting power systems; sensing technologies for enhanced space
surveillance, and protection of U.S. assets in space.

Also needed are network systems that communicate seamlessly among
themselves, operationally responsive and reliable networks and tools
for boiling down vast amounts of information and helping decision
makers, the officials said.

In militarily significant research, the third category, a priority is
the generation, storage, use and projection of electrical and other
forms of power throughout the battle-space, Aldridge and Etter said.

He said directed-energy weapons--lasers and high-powered microwave
systems--had the potential to shoot down ballistic missiles as they
were lifting off, to defeat high-speed anti-ship and anti-aircraft
missiles and to zero in on targets in urban centers without harming
civilians.

Breakthroughs were needed in advanced power, including new battery
systems and fuel cells, to enhance the U.S. capability to focus power
and energy in a way that could be supported logistically, added
Aldridge, the department's third-ranking civilian as under secretary
for acquisition, technology and logistics.

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[CTRL] Bride donates her dowry to family of Intifada martyr

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Bride donates her dowry to family of Intifada martyr

Kalba | By Tahseen Shaghouri | 28/06/2001

http://www.gulfnews.com/Articles/print.asp?ArticleID=20847

A 20-year-old UAE national girl who is celebrating her wedding tonight has
donated her entire dowry to the family of an Intifada hero. Mariam Saleh
Shames of Kalba, who studies education at Ajman University, told Gulf News
that she is very happy to donate her dowry to the family of a suicide
bomber who was martyred in Tel Aviv.

I am touched by all our Palestinian brothers who are fighting against
Israeli occupation. I am one of the many Arabs who encourage our brothers
in the occupied lands, and try to support them with money and other aid to
help defend themselves.

She said she donated the dowry because she felt it is her duty to help the
Palestinians and the Intifada. My dowry is a very small, humble
assistance to our brothers in Palestine and I wish I had more money or
gold to donate again to the family of Al Hotari, a martyr, and other
Palestinians who give their blood for their country.

She feels that she and every Arab citizen should be responsible for
defending Palestine against Israel. They should do their best to help the
Palestinian people kick Israeli troops out of their land.

Her father, Saleh Shames, a Major in the Coast Guard, said he is very
proud of his daughter. Mariam is the first of my daughters who is getting
married. I am really proud of her, and her deed reflects her good moral
breeding. I am so happy and content because Mariam will raise her children
the way she was raised, following our Islamic teachings and morals which
stress the importance of helping each other.

Bridegroom Eisa Mohammed Saif, who studies aerospace engineering in the
U.S., expressed admiration for his bride. I am so proud of my bride and
her high moral behaviour. She always wants to help other people and
Muslims. She has donated all her wealth. I appreciate her deed. I am so
happy and am optimistic of having a very successful and comfortable
married life.

The Consul General of Palestine sent a letter to Mariam thanking her for
her generous donation. A Palestinian folkloric band will play at Mariam's
wedding tonight, a gift from the Palestinian people to express their
gratitude.

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Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal:Delusional am I?... 1/2

[Nurev Ind.]

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flw wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

  Here's what I see happening. The special forces will kill off the leadership
  of all the terrorist groups possibly including Arafat. They will disarm all
  the militias and remove the secretly stored illegal weapons they have
  accumulated for war. If the other Arab states start making war noises, the
  Israelis will go to conventional war with Egypt, and Syria. They might enter
  Jordan and Lebanon too, but won't necessarily have to fight them.
 
  It is also a possibility that Israel will take the war to Iraq and Iran,
  depending on what secret weaponry they have cooking.
  J2

 This is delusional. However this type of thinking is a good example
 of why war happens and the human capacity to indulge in self deception.
 Anyone who thinks Irrational Racialist Nationalism was / is somehow distinct
 to German Society should ponder the above.

 A belief in elite troops; a belief in national superiority and disdain for alleged
 weak neighbors; grandiose war schemes; a belief in secret weapons
 where have we heard this before???
 flw

Dilusional am I?


Palestinians' arsenal now includes Katyusha rockets
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/Archive-2001/me-israel-03-28.html

Special to World Tribune.com
MIDDLE EAST NEWSLINE
Wednesday, March 28, 2001
TEL AVIV - Authorities are bracing for Palestinian rocket attacks on
Israeli
cities.

Officials said the prospect that the Palestinian Authority would fire
rockets at Israeli cities is being discussed in both the military and
security forces. They said the current PA mortar attacks on Jewish
settlements in the Gaza Strip appear to mark a prelude to an attack on
Israeli cities.

If we suspected a year ago that the Palestinian Authority has Katyushas,
we
are now sure of this, a security source said.

The PA also has plenty of mortars that can strike Israeli cities from
Palestinian areas, he added. snip
===

Syria construction near Golan seen as preparations for attack

Special to World Tribune.com
MIDDLE EAST NEWSLINE
Friday, April 6, 2001
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/Archive-2001/me-syria-04-06.html

TEL AVIV - Syria is believed to be bolstering military positions
along the ceasefire line with Israel in the Golan Heights.

Israeli military sources said the Syrian military appears to be
building positions to launch an attack on Israeli defenses in the
Golan, captured by the Jewish state in the 1967 war.

The sources said Israeli reconnaissance has not spotted troop
movement in the Golan. Instead, they said, Syrian contractors have
been building houses and structures in abandoned villages across from
Israeli positions in the Golan Heights.

The Syrian military is believed behind the construction effort.
Israeli sources said the aim could be to deploy Syrian commandos in
the reconstructed villages and employ them in any future offensive
against Israel.

We know that lots of military operations begin quietly, an Israeli
military source said.

The sources said Israel and the United Nations peacekeepers deployed
along the ceasefire line are monitoring the Syrian construction.
=
  WHATEVER THE ISRAELIS AND AMERICANS MAY SAY,
THIS IS CIVIL WAR
 By Robert Fisk in Ramallah

[The Independent - 11 April 2001]:
It's strange how a war creeps up on you. First you have the warnings
of an explosion, then the first shootings. Then the first mortars,
the first tank fire, the first rocket attacks. That's how it was in
Lebanon.
And now in 'Palestine'.
=
 ISRAELIS INVADE PALESTINIAN REFUGEE CAMP
   2 killed, dozens of homes razed

By Tracy Wilkinson, Fayed Abu Shammalah

[Los Angeles Times - Thursday, April 12, 2001]
Khan Yunis, Gaza Strip -- Israel plunged deep into
Palestinian-controlled territory early yesterday for the first time
in six months of strife, charging into this refugee camp with tanks
and bulldozers in a raid that exploded into some of the most intense
fighting since the Palestinian uprising began.
snip

I ordered the (Israel Defense Forces) to enter into the areas from
which mortars have been fired at us nightly in all directions,
Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer said.

Four more mortars were fired toward other Jewish settlements last night.

Ben-Eliezer insisted that Israel has no interest in reoccupying
Palestinian territory, noting that his troops had withdrawn.

Still, yesterday's raid, and the use of mortars by the Palestinians,
mark a sharp escalation in a cycle of bloodshed that has already
killed more than 450 people. Senior army officers have been urging
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's government to ignore the borders
between Palestinian-ruled territory and Israel if necessary to combat
Palestinian militants.

Uzi Landau, the hawkish internal security minister, called yesterday
for an escalation of such 

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal:Delusional am I?... 2/2

[Nurev Ind.]

-Caveat Lector-

flw wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

  Here's what I see happening. The special forces will kill off the
leadership
  of all the terrorist groups possibly including Arafat. They will disarm
all
  the militias and remove the secretly stored illegal weapons they have
  accumulated for war. If the other Arab states start making war noises,
the
  Israelis will go to conventional war with Egypt, and Syria. They might
enter
  Jordan and Lebanon too, but won't necessarily have to fight them.
 
  It is also a possibility that Israel will take the war to Iraq and
Iran,
  depending on what secret weaponry they have cooking.
  J2

 This is delusional. However this type of thinking is a good example
 of why war happens and the human capacity to indulge in self deception.
 Anyone who thinks Irrational Racialist Nationalism was / is somehow
distinct
 to German Society should ponder the above.

 A belief in elite troops; a belief in national superiority and disdain
for alleged
 weak neighbors; grandiose war schemes; a belief in secret weapons
 where have we heard this before???
 flw

Dilusional am I?

=
By Jon Dougherty
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Fugitive Saudi terrorist-sponsor Osama bin Laden is now known to have nuclear
weapons, putting to rest previous speculation that left the possibility
open, according to a weekly intelligence newsletter.

A report published in this week's Geostrategy-Direct.com newsletter, edited
in part by Washington Times staffers Bill Gertz and Robert Morton,indicated
that bin Laden's possession of nuclear devices is no longer a doubt.

Saudi billionaire fugitive Osama bin Laden has nuclear weapons. The
question is how many, the report said.

Gertz told WND he didn't write the assessment, but that the newsletter's
primary editor, Morton, had a stringer in the Mideast who verified the
information. Morton was out of his office and could not be reached for
comment.

Russian intelligence sources who are fighting bin Laden members in Chechnya
believe [he] has a handful of tactical nuclear weapons, said the report.
Arab intelligence sources say the Al Qaida head has as many as 20
weapons.

Al Qaida is the name of the terrorist group bin Laden leads.
==
Ha'aretz: Syria, Hezbollah warn of coming retaliation for radar base attack

By Daniel Sobelman and Agencies  Ha'aretz Correspondent Ha'aretz 29 April
2001

Top Syrian officials and Hezbollah leaders warned over the weekend that
responses to Israel's bombing of the Syrian radar base in Lebanon two weeks
ago are certain to come.

Mohammad Raad, the head of the Hezbollah faction in the Lebanese parliament
declared that a Hezbollah response is just a question of time.

Raad added that Israel will not be able to dictate its will to the Lebanese
by resorting to aggression, and an escalation [of violence]. The purpose of
the Israel Air Force attack against the Syrian facility, Ra'ad said, was to
create a new balance of power - but Hezbollah retains the ability to tip
this balance in its favor. The question of which side has the edge depends
upon the response which Israel is forced to absorb, he said.

Speaking in Damascus on Saturday, Syria's Foreign Minister Farouk Shara said
that his country would pick its own time to retaliate to the Israeli raid.
We had announced that Syria would reserve its right to retaliate at the
appropriate time, Shara said. This means two things: That when Syria
retaliates it would not violate any international or private laws; secondly
that when it retaliates it will choose the appropriate time by itself.
Shara spoke at a press conference held jointly with his French counterpart,
Hubert Vedrine.

Syria's media has indicated in recent days that the leadership in Damascus
intends to respond to the air force attack. A columnist in the
Damascus-based Al-Thawra stated last week that Syria is preparing a
strategic response to Israel's air attack.

Meanwhile, Israeli strategists have joined the heightened war of rhetoric
regarding Israel, Lebanon and Israel. In a strategic paper entitled An
Agenda for the New Government, the director of the Jaffee Center for
Strategic Studies, Prof. Shai Feldman, suggests that Israel ought to
consider striking targets within Syrian territory in retaliation for any
future Hezbollah attack inside Israel. In the paper, Feldman wrote that:
should Hezbollah escalate affairs by unleashing acts of terror along the
northern border...[Israel] should consider a direct response against Syria.
Recommending that such steps against Syria be taken in a gradual fashion,
Feldman wrote that they would transfer the confrontation from the northern
border, where Israel is clearly in an inferior position, to a theater of
military confrontation between Syria and Israel, in which Israel has a
clear advantage.

Palestinian weapons boat seized yesterday represent major change in threat
against Israel

Aaron Lerner  

[CTRL] Echelon- Spying On Japs For 20 Years

[William Shannon]

http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20010627p2a00m0fp002000c.html



Japanese diplomatic dispatches infiltrated by English-speaking spies



EXCLUSIVE WELLINGTON, New Zealand -- Echelon, a communication spy network
maintained by five English-speaking countries, has been spying on Japanese
embassies and consulates in Oceania for 20 years, the Mainichi has learned.

Nicky Hagar, a New Zealand researcher who testified before the European Union
commission that blasted the spy network, told the Mainichi Echelon had been
used to covertly carry out mainly industrial espionage against Japan and
report the results to the United States.

Hagar claims the spying was done at the behest of the United States, which
wanted to find out how an economically powerful Japan's policies were
influencing the South Pacific.

In an exclusive interview, Hagar added that Japanese encoding was too
advanced and little information of worth seeped out, a point confirmed by
Foreign Ministry officials.

"We think that little more than simple documents could have been read. It
would be impossible to read top secret diplomatic documents," a Foreign
Ministry spokesman said. "We don't really know what the exact situation is at
the moment, but we have no doubts that Japan's diplomatic secrets are being
well protected."

Hagar said the New Zealand Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB)
spied on Japan from its base in Wellington.

Hagar estimates that about 50 people -- current and former GCSB officials and
politicians among them -- are aware of the existence of Echelon. The
countries accused of setting up the network -- the United States, Britain,
Australia, New Zealand and Canada -- deny it exists.

Until 1989, the GCSB analyzed data it received from U.S. spy stations. After
1990, it set up a base at Waihopai in central New Zealand, which used an
elaborate spy network including satellites, to run an exclusive line into
Japanese embassies or consulates.

All Japanese diplomatic documents are encoded, but a computer provided by the
U.S. apparently allowed most of them to be read.

A GCSB official fluent in Japanese would translate the documents and send
them to the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), the headquarters of Echelon.

Among the documents secured were diplomatic reports from Japanese embassies
and consulates throughout Oceania, as well as information mainly concerning
trade, fishing, negotiation reports, support for developing nations and visas.

During the 1980s, the network captured information about the Japanese
government's negotiations on coal prices, which led to New Zealand achieving
a favorable deal for its coal exports. It is believed Echelon was used to
pick up information from Japan that would prove favorable for New Zealand
companies.

From the mid-'90s, the Waihopai base secured the ability to listen in to
phone conversations.

It turned its attention from exclusively monitoring Japanese diplomatic posts
to spying on Japanese fishing boats and ships carrying plutonium. (Mainichi
Shimbun, June 27, 2001)

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[CTRL] U.S. Terrorist Provocation In Greece?

[William Shannon]

http://www.ekathimerini.com/news/content.asp?aid=86900



Nov. 17 denies Michaloliakos attack

Five months after conservative MP Vassilis Michaloliakos was wounded slightly
during a bomb attack, the November 17 terrorist group denied any implication
in the Piraeus blast, dumping the blame on the US secret services.

In an 11-page declaration published in yesterday's Eleftherotypia daily, the
group's staple vehicle for its statements, November 17 said the blast was a
provocation intended to stampede the government into voting through a
controversial law on fighting terrorism and organized crime.

The US State Department dismissed this claim.

"It is absolutely and entirely absurd," spokesman Richard Boucher said.

Michaloliakos, 49, declined to comment on the declaration, saying he would
not "legitimize terrorists by entering into a dialogue with them."

And he refused to respond to journalists' questions on whether anybody else
would have an incentive to try to kill him. Police were understood to be
investigating the possibility of the blast being linked with common criminal
groups.

Government spokesman Dimitris Reppas echoed that "it is not possible for us
to open any form of dialogue with a terrorist organization."

November 17 said it had not taken earlier action to dissociate itself from
the Michaloliakos bombing to hinder the media from presenting it as "a
desperate attempt to prevent the law on terrorism from being passed." It
added that it had initially maintained "a tiny reservation regarding the
possibility of some other left-wing group having planted the bomb."

[CTRL] Echelon's Weakness

[William Shannon]

http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2780166,00.html



How the NSA is monitoring you--and why it's wasting its time

Robert Vamosi, Security Expert, ZDNet Help  How-To


Echelon, if you don't already know, is the National Security Agency's (NSA) 
electronic surveillance system, designed to monitor telephone calls, faxes, 
and e-mails worldwide. The system looks for words or phrases that could be 
used by terrorist organizations to plot their next attack. The trouble is, 
most world-class criminals and terrorists aren't sending incriminating 
plain-text e-mails. They're using other methods to communicate, such as 
steganography (hiding files within a file). 

The idea that the United States government is eavesdropping on our lives 
should be distressing to everyone, but few Americans even know about it or 
are as riled up about it as our European neighbors. Recently, ministers in 
the European community argued for the use of strong 128-bit encryption for 
even basic e-mail. Unfortunately, the use of strong encryption can cause 
problems for systemwide antivirus products. For more information on Echelon, 
the American Civil Liberties Union, along with several other free speech 
organizations, has created an informative Web site, Echelonwatch.org. 

INSTEAD OF ROOTING through my e-mails, I think the NSA should be researching 
how to detect messages hidden within other messages. Steganography is one 
popular method, where a message (either text or image) can be hidden within 
other files containing text, images, or even sound, without a perceptible 
change in the original file's quality. 

The concept predates modern computing. Greek soldiers tattooed maps on their 
heads, and then grew their hair out; after arriving behind enemy lines, they 
delivered the message by shaving their heads. Romans obscured messages by 
applying layers of wax onto the tablets on which they were written, then 
melted the wax to read the message. Microdots, used during World War II, is 
yet another example. During the recent U.S. Embassy bombing case, several 
documents came to light that suggest Osama bin Laden and his associates have 
been using steganography to hide terrorist plans inside pornography and MP3 
files that are freely distributed over the Internet. 

Unfortunately, identifying whether or not a file contains hidden data 
requires no less than a careful comparison of the compromised file to the 
original--which is not always possible. The human eye can't always detect 
photographic loss because most steganography programs use subtle algorithmic 
transformations of the color palette table (that's why black and white photos 
work the best). And, even if you did suspect that a secret message may be 
hidden inside one of your files, often you need to know which software 
program was used, and then figure out the password to unlock the file (if 
encrypted, which it probably is). 

At last summer's Black Hat Security Briefings, I spoke with some computer 
forensic experts who admitted that steganography is all but impossible to 
detect. One expert I spoke with had been in law enforcement before switching 
to computer forensics and still uses the tried-and-true interrogation methods 
gleaned from his years in law enforcement. Often, he said, after building a 
sound case against an individual, that person will crack during interrogation 
and share secrets and even passwords. That's how the government learned of 
bin Laden's antics. 

Recently, someone on BugTraq suggested that defaced Web sites might contain 
hidden stegnographic messages. Indeed, even corporate logos on HTML-enriched 
e-mail could be rife with secret information. But until someone figures out a 
way to parse the code of every GIF, BMP, JPG, or MP3 file, we're left with 
idle speculation. In the meantime, I wish the NSA would find something better 
to do than read all of our e-mail. 

[CTRL] Israel Shamir- Doubt Certainty: Follow Up

[William Shannon]

Doubt and certainty – follow up
By Israel Shamir



With Sunday Times’ disclosure of the Israeli security 
services’ involvement in the slaughter of the Russian kids 
in Tel Aviv, the clever by half plot began to unravel. From 
the first moment, there were reasonable doubts that it was 
an act of Palestinian terror. The crime had the bloody 
fingerprints of the Jewish supremacist all over it. It was 
perpetrated on Sabbath eve, when a ‘good Jew’ is not 
supposed to hang around a discotheque. It washed the 
Palestinian blood off Jewish hands with expendable Russian 
blood. It forced the hand of Arafat to surrender to Israeli 
conditions of a cease-fire. It created a 
miraculously ‘restrained’ General Sharon withholding his 
justifiable fury and sparing malfeasants. It pushed a hence 
neutral Russian community into the embrace of Arab-haters. 
The Qui Bono principle of criminal detection led directly 
to the high rooms of Israeli politics, who profited hugely 
from the explosion.

An American activist voiced the initial suspicions noting 
that ‘the bombing took place the day of Husseini's funeral 
when the IDF had so "generously" left East Jerusalem and 
when spirits were so high at the demo. And then there was 
the convenient timing of this horrendous crime; exactly 
what Israel needed to win over public opinion’.  

The Sunday Times now reports that the impossible feat of 
delivering the bomber to the deep hinterland of Tel Aviv 
was done by a Shabak (Israeli Internal Secret Police) 
agent, al Nadi. Quoting a string of officials, an Israeli 
journalist Uzi Mahanaimi drew a portrait of a gullible 
Shabak agent who unwittingly became an accomplice in the 
murder. He supposedly understood the intentions of the 
bomber; but far too late. The Israeli Army spokesman also 
stressed innocence of al Nadi who did not know what he was 
doing.

This scoop by The Sunday Times reminded me of a plot by the 
British thriller writer, Le Carre. When endangered by a 
pending disclosure, secret services usually prefer to leak 
their own doctored version of events. The damning report of 
the English paper appears to be an Israeli damage control 
procedure. Many Israel-based foreign journalists recently 
received additional detailed information from usually 
knowledgeable sources. The sources claimed that the 
suspected bomber Said Hotari worked for a branch of 
Jordanian security services until his defection to Israel. 
He apparently collaborated with Shabak, and that is why his 
Israeli visa was duly extended. This fact of visa extension 
was reported by Israeli newspapers before the court slapped 
a full publicity ban on the case. Hotari was probably 
unaware of his deadly load, as the explosion was caused by 
remote control.

They also claim that there was an additional reason for 
the peculiar choice of the site: the nearby David 
Intercontinental Hotel had an unusual guest, the German 
Foreign Minister Joshka Fischer. It is not a popular hotel 
with high-ranking guests. Though it is a five star 
operation, it is not located in the most fashionable area 
of Tel Aviv. Purely by ‘chance’, Herr Fischer became a star 
witness of the outrage. He was emotionally swept away to 
the Israeli side and became an important player in the 
following diplomatic game that resulted in imposing the 
cease fire on Israeli terms.

Ruthless use of terrorism for political and tactical 
purposes has always been a traditional tool of Israeli 
secret service operatives. Provocation is not below their 
dignity: in 1950s, in the infamous Lavon Affair, some local 
Jews enlisted by Israel were apprehended in Cairo while 
placing bombs in the American and British consulates. They 
tried to present their bombing as ‘acts of Islamic terror’ 
and cause hostility between Arabs and Americans. Israeli 
agents did not hesitate to kill Jews ‘for the cause’. 

Thus, on November 25, 1940, the Jewish Agency men sunk SS 
Patria and killed 250 Jewish immigrants. They did it in 
order to ensure sympathy to the plight of Jews who were 
refused entry to British-run Palestine. The perpetrators of 
the outrage admitted their crime in Israeli media a few 
years ago. The explosive charge was too powerful, they 
explained.

Joachim Martillo recently wrote of possible Zionist 
connection with the bloody anti-Jewish riots in the Polish 
town of Kielce after the WWII. The riots sent a wave of 
Jewish immigrants to the shores of Palestine. Israeli 
bombings of Baghdad synagogues are by now a well known and 
declassified fact. They caused mass immigration of Iraqi 
Jews to Israel. 

In a more recent development, just over a year ago, Moscow 
was shaken by dreadful explosions that caused multiple 
casualties. Unknown terrorists exploded whole residential 
apartment buildings in the Russian capital. The explosions 
were blamed on Chechens, and brought about the Second 
Chechnya war, the destruction of Grozny, thousands of dead 
and wounded, but more importantly, they served as a 

[CTRL] Intelligence Needs for Homeland Defense

[radman]

-Caveat Lector-

DoD Secrets: Homeland Spying, Precision Targets
Cryptome  17:05 27-Jun-01
http://cryptome.org/dsb062701.txt

Source: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html

[Federal Register: June 27, 2001 (Volume 66, Number 124)]
[Notices]
[Page 34177]
 From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr27jn01-56]
[[Page 34177]]
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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
Office of the Secretary
Defense Science Board
AGENCY: Department of Defense.
ACTION: Notice of advisory committee meeting date changes.
---

SUMMARY: On Monday, March 12, 2001 (66 FR 14359) the Department of
Defense announced closed meetings of the Defense Science Board (DSB)
Task Force on Intelligence Needs for Homeland Defense. These meetings
have been rescheduled from June 25-26, 2001, to June 26-27, 2001; and
from July 23-24, 2001, to July 24-25, 2001.
 Both meetings will be held at Strategic Analysis Inc., 3601 Wilson
Boulevard, Suite 600, Arlington, VA.

 Dated: June 21, 2001.
L. M. Bynum,
Alternate OSD Federal Register Liaison Officer, Department of Defense.
[FR Doc. 01-16030 Filed 6-26-01; 8:45 am]
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[CTRL] The Incredible Shrinking Presidency

[William Shannon]

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/06/28/bush/index.html



The incredible shrinking presidency
Bush's ever-diminishing stature and nonexistent vision for America is
cheapening the White House.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Arianna Huffington
June 28, 2001 | As the dog days of summer approach, it's becoming clear that
President Bush's to-do list is even shorter than his attention span: "Tax
rates down? Check. Energy prices up? Check. T-ball given its rightful place
in the national spotlight? Check. Checks in the mail? Check."

But it isn't just Bush's anemic agenda that has sputtered and keeled over,
it's the very model of leadership that has dominated our democracy since the
nation's founding. Bush's ever-diminishing stature is diminishing the
presidency itself. In fact, it's the death knell for the "Great Man" theory
of leadership, the military model of a single father figure to guide us,
protect us and set the national agenda.

With Dubya's dubious victory in November and his managerial innovations, like
the CEO-in-chief approach and the Cheney prime ministership, it is now
abundantly clear that you can be president and not be a leader -- that you
can have power but no authority.

Ironically, during the campaign, Bush seemed obsessed with trying to define
leadership. In one memorable stab, he even justified his much-vilified
appearance at Bob Jones University as an act of leadership: "That's what a
leader does. A leader doesn't shirk. A leader leads. A leader stands up and
sets an agenda." However Lilliputian it may be.

When recently asked to define his administration's central mission, the
president's instant answer was "tax relief." With that brief response, he
flouted three of the most fundamental attributes of leadership: the ability
to identify a compelling vision of a greater future, a gift for inspiring
people to transcend their own interests and the courage to not merely reflect
current opinion but to challenge and shape it.

To be fair, the old model of leadership had already been badly wounded by
eight years of Clintonian spinning, triangulating and minute-by-minute
polling. But it met its Waterloo with W.'s ascension. There was our
sophomoric president earlier this week, for example, turning an Oval Office
photo op with Ariel Sharon into an embarrassing display of presidential
petulance. In the "Am not!" "Are too!" verbal jousting, Bush kept insisting,
despite Sharon's unambiguous disagreement, that "progress" is being made in
the Mideast. He used the term 13 times in 11 minutes. Someone with more
maturity -- say your average kindergartner -- would have taken Sharon's hint
and dropped the subject after, oh, the fifth repetition. But not Bush, who
insisted on lecturing the Israeli prime minister: "Progress is in inches, not
in miles. But nevertheless, an inch is better than nothing." No word on
whether he added: "I'm rubber, you're glue."

Just as puerile were Bush's pronouncements following his return from Europe
earlier this month when he almost pulled a muscle patting himself on the back
for exceeding expectations: "I didn't think about Ronald Reagan when I was
there," he said, "but now that you bring it up ... With all due modesty, I
think Ronald Reagan would have been proud of how I conducted myself. I went
to Europe a humble leader of a great country, and stood my ground. I wasn't
going to yield. I listened, but I made my point." Which apparently was:
"America kicks butt, wo!"

Or consider the searing intellectual depth of the advice Bush says he offered
Russian President Vladimir Putin during their recent summit: "It's negative
to think about blowing each other up. That's not a positive thought ...
That's a thought when people were enemies with each other." Are these the
pronouncements of a man maturing into the leader of the free world or a guy
who's been watching way too much Barney?

Consistently incoherent and, as he reminded us in his commencement address at
Yale, proudly uneducated, Bush appears oddly unfamiliar with the system he
now purports to lead and stunningly unaware of the world beyond our borders
-- except, perhaps, for Vincente Fox's rumpus room. Nor is Bush's breathy,
anxious verbal style -- beginning his speeches in a manner that suggests he
knows he's already lost the argument -- doing him any service in the
presidential stakes.

The American genius has always been in bringing out the extraordinary in
ordinary people. Picture Jimmy Stewart's Jefferson Smith going to Washington
or Gary Cooper's Longfellow Deeds going to town. But with Bush, we have a
thunderingly ordinary guy thrust into an extraordinary office, and bringing
to it an absolute vacuity that makes you wonder about not only the contents
of his mind but the hollowness of his imagination.

It goes way beyond his abuse of the English language, although this is
nothing less than remarkable: "Is our children learning?" "Will the highways
on the Internet become more few?" "We cannot let terrorists or 

Re: [CTRL] Chandra Levy timeline (fwd)

[Nessie]

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I have a rose tattoo; it has a lightening bolt through the rose, and is
surrounded by the crescent moon and a couple of stars.


Are you going to tell us where?

8^ )

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Re: [CTRL] It's time to remove the criminal name of Dulles from all honors.

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--- Nurev Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Crime So Immense
 Texas Observer, May 26, 2000
 Author:  James Galbraith

 The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) knew that the
 Bay of Pigs Invasion would fail. The CIA knew in
advance that the date of the invasion had been leaked
to the Russians, who had in turn relayed that
information to Castro.
In spite of this information, the head of the CIA,
Allen Dulles, ordered the Bay of Pigs Operation
forward.
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Nakano comments:
There are more reasons than the Bay of Pigs to
remove the criminal name of Dulles.
If there is anyone out there who still believes in
The Warren Commission Report, consider this:
After the failure of the Bay of Pigs, President
Kennedy fired CIA Director Allen Dulles.
Obviously, Dulles was no friend of John Kennedy.

Why then did  President Lyndon Johnson appoint
Dulles to be one of the 7 members of the Warren
Commission which was supposed to have investigated the
assassination?
President Kennedy also fired Charles Cabell the Deputy
Director of the CIA.  So what's the significance of
the firing of Cabell?
His brother was the Mayor of Dallas, Texas!


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Re: [CTRL] A Nation Betrayed: The Chilling and true story of Secret Cold War Experiment

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Dear list,

Below please find info about this website and book.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

This may be heavy for survivors of ritual abuse and mind control.



Carol will be speaking at our conference in August. Here's a description of
what she will be spealing about :

Carol Rutz is a survivor of Mind Control experimentation. She has attempted
to document through research and FOIA's material that validates her personal
experiences as well as other survivors.  She is presenting these facts in a
book aimed at not only survivors, but health professionals and the general
public.  Her topic is: My story intertwined with documentation.

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A Nation Betrayed: The Chilling and true story of Secret Cold War Experiments
Performed on Our Children and Other Innocent People by Carol Rutz

All accusations are alleged.

  Are you one of the thousands of people used as a human guinea pig by
your own government during the Cold War?  A Nation Betrayed is the
culmination of documentation obtained from over 18,000 pages of declassified
documents and testimony from survivors of these experiments.
  Rutz's book gives us a first hand view of a government in such fear of
communism that it loses sight of the safety of innocent children.  After
being imported for their knowledge and expertise, some of the same Nazi
scientists and doctors who performed grizzly experiments carried out in the
death camps during World War II join forces with the U.S Government in these
efforts.
  Her book walks us through her horrifying journey of experimentation and
training by her CIA torturers beginning at the age of four as part of the
government sanctioned Bluebird/Artichoke and MKULTRA Projects.  Using
electroshock, drugs, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, and insidious trauma, our
government performs Mind Control experiments on her and other innocent
children.  The objective is creation of a Manchurian Candidate-a sleeper
assassin-as well as instilling skills in ESP and remote viewing.
   A Nation Betrayed also shows how our own tax dollars paid doctors and
hospitals to conduct Cold War research with chemical and biological warfare
materials and radiation.  Why hasn't our government been held accountable not
only for these atrocities, but for dumping chemicals at sea, testing
chemicals on unsuspecting U.S. populations, administering LSD to unwitting
soldiers, feeding radioactive cereal to retarded children, and other
unthinkable acts in the name of national security?
   Rutz asks, Can we allow these abuses of power to lay in the shadows
of secrecy because we are enjoying democracy today?  A Nation Betrayed is a
must read to educate the Nation about these abuses, because our silence
conveys a powerful message to those in power.  Without the necessary changes,
history is doomed to repeat itself.
   Table of Contents and Preface can be read at
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Re: [CTRL] NewsWeek: A Capital Mystery Heats Up

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It seems suspiciously strange that it has taken almost 2 months after she
disappeared for it to now be suggested that she was distraught over losing
her internship position...something that she knew was going to ultimately
happen anyway, albeit perhaps a few months later

All the initial stories on her disappearance had everyone who knew her
stressing that she wasn't stressed out over school or job or personal
relationships...

Now we're getting the spin that she was distraught over losing her
internship and/or the breakup of a personal relationship with 'someone'...

Smells too much of spin-doctoring...as if someone wants to cast attention
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[CTRL] Pat Robertson's Big Oil Problems

[William Shannon]

Politics: Pat Robertson asks liberal Democrat to help him open oil refinery 


By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (June 27, 2001 6:51 p.m. EDT) - Christian conservative Pat
Robertson is enlisting a liberal Democratic senator to help him open a
California oil refinery, claiming Big Oil is frustrating his efforts to
obtain financing to open the refinery.

Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition and a staunch supporter of
President Bush, wrote Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., recently suggesting the two
might join in rooting out anti-competitive practices among the major oil
companies.

Noting some internal oil industry documents Wyden recently made public,
Robertson suggested that his experience in trying to start up the Powerine
Refinery near Santa Fe Springs, Calif., might provide the senators with
additional fodder for investigation.

At the same time, wrote Robertson, some of Wyden's findings might "provide
the basis of a serious antitrust suit against the (oil industry) majors" by
his refinery company.

The unusual alliance of Robertson, the conservative Republican evangelist and
broadcaster, and Wyden, viewed as among the most liberal members of the
Senate, was moving to another level Thursday when the two plan a joint news
conference to take on the oil companies.

"I would be the first to say that this is not an alliance you see every day,"
said Wyden in an interview. But he said it shows that oil industry
competition "isn't a partisan issue."

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney frequently have cited the lack
of refinery capacity as a reason behind high gas prices and sporadic
shortages but have also maintained there is no evidence of collusion or
anti-competitive activities.

In the June 15 letter to Wyden, a copy of which was obtained by The
Associated Press, Robertson disagrees.

"The uphill fight of a tiny independent against the behemoths controlling the
oil industry has been extraordinarily difficult over these several years and
has cost, in the process, tens of millions of dollars," wrote Robertson.

He complained that his attempts to restart the California refinery have been
"stymied" by unnamed oil companies, including one executive who allegedly
told a bank official that his oil company would take its business elsewhere
if it financed Robertson's project.

"We were told that the head of a major oil company had sent word to the bank
that if it helped finance the restart of the Powerine Refinery that the oil
company would possibly withdraw its business," wrote Robertson.

In a telephone interview, Robertson said that he knew the name of the oil
company referred to by the bank official but did not want to reveal it,
fearing a possible defamation lawsuit. But he reiterated, "The (oil industry)
majors have been trying to frustrate our efforts."

Robertson's family trust purchased the Powerine Refinery in 1998 using money
from the sale of some of the Robertson family broadcasting interests. The
refinery closed in 1995, and Robertson has been seeking bank financing to
reopen it ever since, renaming it Cenco Refining Co.

Robertson called the Cenco refinery "the most environmentally friendly
refinery in the entire United States" with numerous pollution control
improvements.

Last January, the federal Environmental Protection Agency and the Justice
Department reached an agreement with Cenco for installation of "cutting edge
air pollution controls, reducing emissions up to 85 percent," according to an
EPA announcement. It is designed to produce cleaner gasoline required by the
California Air Resources Board.

Robertson, in the interview, expressed confidence he will get financing for
the refinery. "The economic climate (for energy companies) on Wall Street is
better now," said Robertson. "If the majors won't oppose us, we'll have it
financed and up and running."

Wyden said Robertson's experience shows that despite industry denials, there
are actions being taken today, when there is a need for more refinery
capacity, to keep independent refiners from operating.

"This is one of the cleanest refineries around and it's having difficulty
getting into the business," said Wyden.

The Powerine Refinery was the subject of an internal 1996 Mobil Oil Co. memo
that was made public, along with other industry documents, by Wyden earlier
this month in support of his allegations that major oil companies have been
key in driving independents out of business.

Exxon Mobil has strongly denied it had tried to keep the small California
refinery from reopening in 1996, although the memo referred to the need for
"a full court press" on the matter and that it would be in the best interest
of Mobil "to see Powerine stay down."

Robertson, although declining to name the company mentioned by the bank
official as trying to exert pressure, said it was a company other than Mobil.


 

[CTRL] FW: Vlad's SIN and CIA

[Nessie]

-Caveat Lector-

Subject:Vlad's SIN and CIA

  Web posted June 28, 2001
http://www.public-i.org/story_01_062701.htm

Special Report
CIA Gave at Least $10 Million
To Peru's Ex-Spymaster Montesinos

By Angel Paez

The Central Intelligence Agency gave ex-Peruvian spymaster Vladimiro
Montesinos at least $10 million in cash over the last decade, as well
as high-tech surveillance equipment that he used against his
political opponents, the Center for Public Integrity has learned.

Montesinos, who now faces trial on murder, arms and drug trafficking
charges, among others, had founded and personally controlled a
counter-drug unit within Peru's National Intelligence Service, known
by its Spanish acronym SIN.

It was to that Narcotics Intelligence Division, known as DIN, that
the CIA directed at least $10 million in cash payments from 1990
until September 2000, U.S. officials told the Center's International
Consortium of Investigative Journalists. Most of the money was to
have financed intelligence activities in the drug war, though
officials acknowledged a small part was for antiterrorist activities.

The CIA knew the money was going directly to Montesinos and had
receipts for the payments, the sources said. It was an
agency-to-agency relationship, said one U.S. official, speaking on
condition of anonymity in Lima, the capital, with Vladimiro
Montesinos as the intermediary. . . . Montesinos had the money under
his control.

The new information on Montesinos is part of an extensive
soon-to-be-released report by the International Consortium of
Investigative Journalists on U.S. aid to Latin America. The material
on Montesinos is based on multiple interviews with U.S. and Peruvian
officials.

A CIA spokesman in Washington refused to confirm or deny that the
agency had helped fund DIN, and that part of those funds went into
Montesino's pockets.

However, an intelligence official who asked not to be further
identified confirmed that Montesinos had pocketed some, but not most,
of the funds. He said that the CIA had been fully aware that
Montesino was involved in corrupt deals and that the CIA had briefed
the National Security Council, State Department and Pentagon about
the alleged corruption. He said the agencies directed the CIA to
continue to work with Montesinos because he was Peru's designated
chief of counternarcotics and the only game in town.

Montesinos disappeared in October as the regime of Peruvian President
Alberto Fujimori collapsed under wide-ranging corruption allegations
and was seized in Venezuela on Saturday night, June 23. Montesinos
was returned to Peru on June 25 to face an array of government
charges.


U.S. shrugged off reports

Over the years, the United States accumulated plenty of evidence of
corruption, human rights abuses and other anti-democratic actions by
Montesinos, but it shrugged off the reports because Montesinos - the
unofficial head of the National Intelligence Service - was a CIA
asset deemed key to Washington's drug war in the Andes.

But the final blow appeared to be Montesinos double-dealing in
Colombia. In what is surely among the most embarrassing turns in
post-Cold War U.S. foreign policy, Montesinos used his CIA-backed
position of influence to get rich and to betray his benefactors. He
arranged an arms deal that sent at least 10,000 AK-47 assault rifles
from Jordan to Colombia's leftist FARC guerrillas, collectively
public enemy number one in the U.S. war on drugs in Latin America and
the main target of Washington's $1.3 billion counternarcotics aid
package to Colombia.

Montesinos had long been fingered as corrupted by drug money,
although many of the earlier claims that surfaced came from arrested
drug dealers. But by 1997, the State Department began to document
Montesinos' questionable activities in its annual human rights
reports. The Senate Appropriations Committee noted in 1999 that it
had repeatedly expressed concern about U.S. support for the Peruvian
National Intelligence Service and requested that it be consulted
prior to any decision to provide assistance to the SIN.

Diversion of funds no surprise

The CIA suspected that Montesinos was involved in some illegal
activities and was not surprised when informed of the diversion of
funds, U.S. sources said. It continued doing business with him
because he solved problems, including problems he created himself,
one U.S. source told ICIJ.

The U.S. Embassy has provided Peru's anti-corruption prosecutor with
detailed information about the CIA's payments to Montesinos in
response to the Peruvian government's wide-ranging investigations
into Montesinos' malfeasance. The prosecutor, Ana Cecilia Magallanes,
has told U.S. officials that she has documents showing the diversion
of SIN money, including the CIA payments, toward illegal activities.
Sources would not elaborate on what those activities included, but
the prosecutor said it did not appear that those monies were diverted
into Montesinos' personal accounts.

[CTRL] Sharon's Twinkie Defense

[William Shannon]

http://www.mediamonitors.net/index.html



Sharon’s Twinkie Defense

by Ahmed Amr

In what has to be the most innovative defense against a major crime since the 
famous "Twinkie Defense" in San Francisco, Ariel Sharon and his mass media 
defenders have launched a campaign that circumvents dealing with ‘the facts 
of the case’. To get things off the ground, Fergal Keane, the producer of the 
recent BBC Panorama documentary that investigated Sharon’s role in the 1982 
massacre at Sabra and Shatila, is being charged with anti-Semitism. To this 
outrageous charge, Keane has vigorously defended his work by stating the 
obvious: "The investigation of human rights abuses and the notion of 
accountability for such abuse is recognized by all civilized states as a 
fundamental moral and legal obligation. With questions now being asked in 
France over the behavior of its generals in Algeria, a former U.S. 
presidential candidate forced to explain his actions in the Vietnam War, not 
to mention the case of General Pinochet …the debate over war crimes has never 
been more relevant".

The Belgian law suit filed by Sabra and Shatila survivors is being ignored by 
the New York Times Publishing company which has chosen to shower unabashed 
editorial affection on Sharon for ‘his restraint’. Both the Times and Boston 
Globe had laudatory editorials praising the Israeli Prime Minister on the eve 
of his second visit to the Bush White House. In Sulzberger’s empire, no 
Israeli leader is ever guilty of any crime greater than ‘excessive 
restraint’. 

Other Sharon partisans in the media have launched a defense based on the 
‘timing’ of the lawsuit, completely ignoring the merits of the allegations. 
Their line of reasoning is that this particular war crime is "too old". So, 
"why bring it up now?" Justice delayed is being marketed as ‘proof on 
innocence’, since there is nothing ‘new in the case’. Except, of course, 
that the Palestinian and Lebanese victims have yet to see a single individual 
charged with any crime related to the three day orgy of murder and mayhem 
that resulted in as many as two thousand innocent casualties. Besides, there 
are no statute of limitations for war crimes and murder. 

Than there is the full parade of character witnesses. Tony Blair gave Sharon 
a warm embrace at his Downing Street official residence, just a week after 
watching the details of the massacre on the BBC. If Tony doesn’t think Sharon 
did anything wrong, he must be innocent. What kind of British food do you 
serve an Israeli war criminal and is it Kosher? Now Sharon is off to another 
love feast with George Bush, no doubt angling for an invitation to ‘The 
Ranch’. 

The Sharon partisans keep saying it was the Phalangists who actually did the 
killing and that Sharon had no clue as to savagery that was taking place in 
the camps, even though the Israeli army had both camps encircled and provided 
night flares to the killers. What exactly happened to Israel’s vaunted 
intelligence services that had a six-story observation post with a direct 
line of vision into the camps? The whole of West Beirut was under Sharon’s 
command. Why did the Israeli army fail to arrest any of the killers once they 
were done with their business? Why did they collaborate in trying to bury the 
evidence using IDF bulldozers? What of the soldiers who sent back camp 
residents attempting to flee the carnage to certain slaughter?

Sharon knew exactly what he was doing in Sabra and Shatila. Morris Draper, a 
senior American diplomat, explicitly warned him against allowing the 
Phalangist militias into the undefended camps. Speaking to the BBC he stated 
that "You'd have to be appallingly ignorant" not to expect a bloodbath. Other 
international ‘war crime’ experts who spoke to the BBC, including Richard 
Falk, a professor of international law at Princeton, agree that Sharon and 
other Israeli military leaders are indictable for war crimes committed at 
Sabra and Shatila
.
The Israel Firsters are adamant that the Kahane commission has adequately 
addressed all these questions. Does anyone seriously believe that Begin, a 
war criminal himself, who was fully complicit in the invasion of Lebanon and 
the siege of Beirut, would have approved anything but a white wash of his 
Defense minister? What exactly was in the ‘secret’ part of the Kahane 
commission report? Why is it still secret, when the crime is so ‘old’?

The Israelis and their American Jewish allies are so proud of themselves for 
having investigated this particular war crime. Sharon was elected with the 
expectation that he would continue his crime spree to teach the Palestinians 
a lesson about the price of asking for the ‘right to return’? The Israeli 
government investigated the crime, under intense international and domestic 
pressure, and Sharon was demoted from Defense minister to a ‘lesser’ cabinet 
position. That’s Israeli justice for you. And that is why there is a need for 
Belgian courts to 

Re: [CTRL] LSD 'Guinea Pig' Wins in Court - Government, Prison Doctor Confess...

[Smart News]

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Dear list,

Below please find an excerpt from this article. There is no URL available.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

This may be heavy for survivors of abuse.



LSD 'Guinea Pig' Wins in Court - Government, Prison Doctor Confess to
Negligence Citizen investigation revealed that hundreds of inmates were used
in scientific experiments in 1960's, 1970's - Jim Bronskill and Mike
Blanchfield -  Ottawa Citizen  page A 1 - OTTAWA - The federal government and
a former prison psychologist have confessed to battery and negligence for
giving LSD to a teenage inmate -- a drug she
says caused brain damage and hallucinations. The admission by the government
and by Mark Eveson, a psychologist, in Ontario's Superior Court of Justice is
a victory for former prisoner Dorothy Proctor. A total of 23 female inmates
were administered LSD as part of a 1961 study at the now-defunct federal
Prison for Women in Kingston, Ont.

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Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal - and Palestinian propaganda.

[goolie smith]

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goolie smith wrote:
 
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  sigh
 
  ok, give me the answers to these questions
 
  Was Ariel Sharon in command of the occupied area where the massacres
took
  place ?

Yes he was.

 
  Is there a Geneva convention (4th) which places responsibility of a
  population upon the person in charge ?

I don't know. But if there is, that's not the law under which Sharon is
being charged. It is a  special law recently enacted but it's not clear
to me by whom.


Special law ? to be a war criminal you have to break the Geneva conventions
and they have been in force for over 50 years.  ariel sharon has broken the
geneva conventions pretaining to the safeguarding of civilians at a time
when the land is occupied

since you do not know and might not believe me ill give you a link and you
can find out for yourself.  http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm
Im hoping that you'll trust the site, it is the United Nations site after
all.




Are you well versed in international law?

  Are you jewish ?

Yes.

  These questions should sort it out, the first two will show why sharon
  should be indicted as a war criminal,

No they don't. You don't know that law. You are making presumptions based
on ignorance. For Sharon to be indicted as a war criminal he would have
to have had intent. Further more, it would have to be proven.


please dont lecture me on law, and if you were brave enough you would debate
without having to resort to mud slinging.

War crimes do not have to show or prove intent, crimes against humanity and
genocide however do need to.  Ariel sharon is NOT being accused of crimes
against humanity or genocide.  However he is being accused of breaking
geneva conventions.

If you still do not believe me, here is another link
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0ign0
This link is the ministry of foriegn affairs of the israeli goverment.  This
site details a report by Yitzhak Kahan commissioned to find out what
happened.  What it found was that Ariel sharon was indirectly responsible
for the killings but directly responsible for disregarding the safety of the
people at the camps


Look, nurev, be brave and be a man to know what is right, Im not backing
arafat, syrians, egyptians, israelis or anyone else. In fact i would like to
see their cumuppance.  I am also not attacking the jews/israelis, but what i
am humbly trying to do is show you that a man who should be indicted and at
LEAST tried for war crimes is now in control of a very powerful country.  Do
you not agree that he should be at least tried ?
The Kahan commission has already found him guilty.





As it stands now,
propaganda aside, he had the nearby sport stadium cleaned and ready to move
the inhabitants of Sabra and Shatilla into for identification. He was
looking
for Arafat's glorious fighters left behind to start new terrorist cells.
There
were also Shiites, Muslim Arabs who lived in that neighborhood before the
Palestinians flooded in. The Israelis had no truck with these people.

So there is no evidence pointing to malevolent intent by the Israelis. The
opposite is true. There are witnesses who have publicly stated that Sharon
gave orders to protect non-combatants.

The worst he could be accused of and responsible for is negligence due
to bad judgment. The Lebanese Christians had been fighting for supremacy in
Lebanon for a long time. They were corrupt, thieving fascists who would use
the Israelis as much as the Israelis were using them. They fought among
themselves viciously. Tribe against tribe, and faction against faction.
They
didn't want to be dominated by Syria. The Muslim Arab Lebanese majority
didn't
mind Syria and didn't want to be dominated by the Christians who were
backed
by Israel. The Christians hated the Palestinians who came to Lebanon after
being driven out of Jordan by King Hussein for starting an insurrection
among
the 60% Palestinian population of Jordan. The Palestinians were not nice
neighbors and wanted to take over Southern Lebanon.

The country was in chaos, and the PLO had a perfect launching platform with
a weak government from which to carry out a war of attrition against
Northern
Israel.

The Phalangists and the Israelis had common enemies but different agendas.
The Israelis wanted the Phalangists to rule Lebanon. After the Syrians
assassinated Bashir Gemayel, the Israelis took charge of West Beirut even
though they promised they wouldn't. Then they inherited Sabra and Shatilla.

Then the Sabra and Shatilla hit the fan. The Israelis were trapped in a
mess
of their own making.

Sharon was the political scapegoat for the mess in Lebanon. He deserved
what he got. I am not an admirer of Arik Sharon.

So you really don't know what you are talking about. And you don't really
care much for what actually happened either do you? I'll bet you don't
know the names of the actual killers. Do you? In all this discussion you
have
not once called for the capture, indictment and trial of 

Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: StupidgullibleLiberalsandPalestinianpropaganda.

[goolie smith]

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must have sent this to wrong place because i didnt get a reply from nurev
sorry if i sent this before


-Caveat Lector-
That land was annexed by the King of Jordan at the time of partition. After
 WWII. Then they lost it to the Israelis in the Six Day War. The
Resolution 242 made no difference when the Jordanians ignored it and it
makes no difference anywhere else in the world.



Wrong again buddy, Resolution 242 doesnt call for Jordan to relinqish land,
nor does it call for any other country to do so.  what it does is tells
Israel to return to the June 4, 1967 borders, thereby relinquishing all
territories captured in the June 1967 war.

This law was basically created after the defeat of Nazi Germany, but
 before  the creation of the nation of Israel. Basically it was
constructed so that no one nation could conquer another and displace the
population (as Nazi Germany did with Poland, France etc.)

And which nation on the planet gives a shit about UN laws? Turkey? Syria?
 The USA and Western Europe attacking Yugoslavia? Britain attacking the
 Falklands? C'mon Gooli get real. You show that you really do understand
by your

Cicero quote down below.



ah, nurev, so dismissive of the UN, but to play along ill tell you one
nation that gives a shit about the UN, Israel, for were it not for UN res
181 there would be no Israel



So you see what was done to the Indians cannot be used in any way as a
pretext to what is happening in palestine or in fact any other place on
 earth.

Never a pretext. The situations are entirely different. I just want to know
 how you justify living on lands stolen from the Indians.

How do you?



The situations are not differnt, 'settlers' are living on land that does not
belong to them (golan, west bank, gaza) forcing out native populations to
make way for the occupying force to settle there. Just as was done to native
indians.

Like i said before UN resolutions and Geneva conventions were not there at
the time of the colonisation of north america.

so you see buddy, Israel is legally bound to ship outta that land it
stole/occupies

also, im not from the US.

heres my quote again

Law stands mute in the midst of arms.

Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
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[CTRL] Fw: UNDERSTANDING THE REPTOID PROBLEM

[Andrew Hennessey]

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 UNDERSTANDING THE REPTOID PROBLEM andrew hennessey
 please distribute - thanx

 I have to admit that when I see the vast amount of verbiage written on the
 global conspiracy I cringe - there is no way I want to read all that -
 unless I wanted to get very specific about the identity of a particular
 organisation or conspirator - but most people just want to get a feel for
 who is doing what to whom - and David Icke -  bless him is right out there
 in the forefront of the discovery of details.

 the average human being would not know where to start  - the council of
 foreign relations, the trilateral commission - the CIA - the alphabet
soup -
 the secret societies - the dynasties, the multinationals - and we are left
 to imagine just who is doing what to whom -

 I think, however that if we want the big picture - instead of finding out
 why x did what to y and why x got it back from b to give it to g - we have
 to know what the game really is.
 But all we have managed to do so far is identify that there is a game -
and
 like the dizzy shell game that it is - it appears to be sucking away all
our
 time, our energy and our hopes.

 So we know there is a game - we can see it going on - sometimes clearly
 sometimes not - but what are its objects and how does it really operate.
 have you ever asked yourself why no really big secrets ever get out - well
 if the world ran by human principles some sore loser would have squealed
by
 now and  really spilled the beans - but that has not happened.
 And what are 'human' principles anyway - millenia of blood, war and
 competition - us ?? -well we know that even as recent as world war 2 - we
 have
 Hollywood and human patriotism - and we have the ongoing multinational rip
 off whose continuing trade and accumulation bore absolutely no relation to
 the alleged human territorial boundaries.
 We know that whoever you vote for the Government always gets in don't we -
 its because this species is telepathic - the reptoids are telepathic and
are
 on every side of every argument always at the top - always out of trouble
 and finding all too easy to control and manipulate and mess up any
 vulnerable non-telepathic human that gets in their way.
 They are the good guys, the bad guys, the non-commital guys but they are
 always at the top - simply because their Secret Ability can easily keep
them
 there - quite simply no human has secrets.
 Its a turkey shoot - in fact something akin to a global cull - and it is
 highly likely that one in every 20 people has this ability.  the
bluebloods
 want to keep it which is why they interbreed - and all bluebloods are not
 necessarily white - eg. the descendants of the naga in India are the
 Agarwaals.

 The history of the reptoids and humanity I go into elsewhere in 'THE TRUE
 HISTORY OF HUMANITY'
 It doesn't necessarily follow that the most powerful reptoids are head of
 the most powerful organisations - for if I were a reptile big cheese, I
 would delegate my organisations to flawed lieutenants - because -
perceived
 weakness causes competition and greater performance in the organisation
and
 the lieutenant would never really be able to cause a problem for his
boss -
 who is on top of the situation.

 The human race we know to be imperfect cattle for menial labour, mining
and
 toilet cleaning etc, but they are easily controlled and accessed via their
 sexual processes - both technologically, chemically and telepathically -
the
 human is easily made to fail exams or mess up important opportunities.

 But what do the Reptoids want really - for we know that they have for
 millenia suppressed the evolution of real interstellar technologies and
 lasting peace on this world.
 They appear to have Houses, probably Greater or Lesser, they probably
 recognise each other not by their wealth but by their mental/telepathic
 output/signature - and as we have found out they partake of ceremonial
 predation on their livestock.
 Their livestock has a fast turnaround and is currently starting to die off
 but is producing stockpliles of nothing they really care about - which are
 the fruits of civilisation, software, artefacts and organic produce - for
 they have had over 12 millenia to get that beautifully organised and
 evolved.
 the livestock themselves are full of more powerful soul passengers who are
 temporarily incapacitated by the dense senses of the human condition - and
 as we know these sparkling souls are just full of energy.
 Minor ET races may be interested in the local produce made by the
livestock,
 but I think that the reptoids are more than interested in the essences of
 the livestock themselves.

 It follows then - to get a handle on the psychology of the reptoid that to
 acquire the best the most sparkling livestock one has to lure them into a
 dependent situation - hence the value system of capitalism and the
paradigm
 of high society. the reptoids themselves probably couldn't care less about
 the finer points of 

[CTRL] Fw: OLBER

[Andrew Hennessey]

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Subject: OLBER



 An Affirmation of Olbers Paradox -

 an ontological approach with reference to logical realism   - andrew
 hennessey

 I presented Olbers paradox ie.if the universe was infinite - there would
be
 an infinite amount of light and all of it would be here by now and the sky
 would be white at night - as proof that there is ether holding up the
 photons - because as we see the sky is dark at night.
 But I am told Olber was dismissed because the Universe was deemed finite
and
 that there were only finite photons - therefore the night sky remains
black.

 I would like to attempt to refute the concept of a finite universe with
 reference to:

 1. mathematical and logical ontology
 2. a non-linear chaos paradigm
 3. lack of validity of the empirical tools, models and processes used to
 prove finity.

 and hence re-open the case for Olbers paradox as evidence for the
existence
 of ether.

 1.  with reference to the a priori tools and semantics we employ to
 establish rationality in terms of logical realism - I would have to point
 out that none of the ontology produces finite limits.
 cf. Goedel numbering and the Turing problem - all of these a priori tools
 tend to infinity - and hence the logical paradigm on which we base the
 fundamentals of reason - can only point to infinity and it cannot be
 logically proved otherwise.

 2. the appearance of finite constraints is an irrational synthesis - eg.
the
 Koch Curve, Schifflers Horns all of these mechanisms are infinite
 propositions in terms of fractals.
 Indeed the chaos paradigm, emergence and other processes not only
challenge
 the classical physics; as was seen with Newtons [linear  rational]
 Planetary Motions, but completely replace it with non-linear [and fractal]
 chaos theory.

 3. In order to bipass the empirical observation of the above two
 propositions - to measure finity - certain assumptions, frames of
reference
 about the construction of the known cosmos have to have been made - eg.
from
 2. the absolute non-linearity of the cosmos is proven, but Cosmologists
eg.
 Hawking have suggested that non-linearity is only partial eg. at black
 holes.
 Indeed there is a glaring disparity between known cosmology and recently
 observed facts.

 To conclude, I suggest that the universe is indeed infinite, that Olbers
 paradox is valid and consequently that Olbers paradox illustrates the
 presence of Ether, and therefore highlights the lack of unity in the
current
 paradigm of Einstein.

 andrew hennessey



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Re: [CTRL] Seven Daily Posts to CTRL

[tenebroust]

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Let's take a moment to look at this.  Here on this list one can post about a multitude 
of subjects.  If you post you may be called on it, if you wish to defend your position 
then expect to be asked to put up some facts to support your argument.  If you are 
unwilling to deal with it or can't or won't do so, then think twice before diving in.  
OR you can just let the calls for show me proof just fly on by and let your post 
speak for itself, but fighting over what is fact and what is not is counterproductive.


On Thu, 28 June 2001, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:


 -Caveat Lector-

 On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
 The matches are in a security box - they are white with red writing
 saying Swiped from Harry Truman..I have a huge portrait of Truman
 autograhed to my mother,  which my one sister got her.   I do not have a
 scanner and in my possession here in my home, I do still have the
 lighter and my picture John Glenn autographed and so did Annie for me,
 and a personally autographed picture from Teedy Kennedy and picture of
 RFK not autographed given to me at same time,

 And how many ex-teenyboppers have autographed pictures of Frank
 Sinatra or Elvis or Paul McCartney or David Cassidy or George Michael?
 It doesn't mean that they ever actually MET these celebrities, it just
 means they either joined a fan club or wrote a letter to the celebrity.
 SOP is to have someone on the clerical staff handle this type of mail,
 and SOP is to send a canned letter back thanking the fan for writing and
 including an 'autographed' picture.

 I could write to the White House today and ask for an autographed picture
 of Bush, and I'd get one; would you then accept that as 'proof' that I
 was a close friend of the Bush family?


 I do not have to prove anything this is a conspiracy theory
 list...

 Yes, it is a list that discusses theory...that does not mean that people
 claiming certain credentials aren't expected to provide some sort of
 proof for their claims.


 Want a picture of what I have here I imagine I could send a picture
 through the mail for the portraint of Truman is much too large to run
 through machine - it is his official portrait.

 Bought at what auction?


 Had beautiful portrait of John F. and Jackie Kennedy in color - a very
 special portrait

 Which thousands of other people also got when they wrote to the White
 House from 1961 to 1963...


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[CTRL] Court hands victory to property owners

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Court hands victory to property owners
By Warren Richey ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor


WASHINGTON



ANTHONY PALAZZOLO: The landowner argued his rights were violated by
environmental laws that kept him from developing.
STEW MILNE/AP/FILE

In a major victory for private-property owners nationwide, the US Supreme
Court has dramatically expanded the ability to receive government
compensation when regulations impact the value or use of land.

In an important 6-to-3 ruling on Thursday, the nation's highest court
overturned a decision by the Rhode Island Supreme Court that blocked an
attempt by the owner of 18 acres of oceanside wetlands in Westerly, R.I., who
was trying to sue the state government under the Fifth Amendment's takings
clause.

The clause says that the government shall not take private property for
public use without offering just compensation. The decision is expected to
have broad ramifications for environmental and other land-use regulations. It
marks the most explicit statement yet by the high court that even property
owners who purchased land after regulations take effect may file suit for
compensation. A state would be allowed, in effect, to put an expiration date
on the takings clause. This ought not be the rule, writes Justice Anthony
Kennedy for the majority. Future generations, too, have a right to challenge
unreasonable limitations on the use and value of land.

At issue was whether a developer could file suit under the takings clause for
marshland he'd been trying to develop since 1959. Rhode Island had argued
that since he became legal owner after the regulations took effect, he had
fair notice the property's value was diminished. Both a state court and the
Rhode Island Supreme Court agreed. Yesterday's decision does not mean he will
win compensation. The lost value of his property will be determined by state
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Re: [CTRL] Hidden truths of Lake Vostok excite scientists and ranters

[tenebroust]

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Perhaps but I would have thought them long run over and destroyed by the Elder Things 
and the Shoggoths come back from the Mountains of Madness!




On Wed, 27 June 2001, Mark McHugh wrote:


 -Caveat Lector-

 Bill Howard wrote:
 
  -Caveat Lector-
 
  In a message dated 6/26/01 8:28:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   What about the secret Nazi bases!!!  Aren't we forgetting them!!!??? 
 
  YES! Was the drilling stopped by the eco-terrorists so the world won't find
  the secret Nazi base beneath the ice cap?
 
  BHoward


 I thought the Nazi antarctic base was controlled by the Deros.  I'm
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[CTRL] Clinton to Arafat: Its All Your Fault

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Clinton to Arafat: It’s All Your Fault

The former president says the Palestinian leader squandered a chance for
Mideast peace
Clinton and Arafat at Camp David last July


By Michael Hirsh
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE

June 27 —  Nearly a year after he failed to achieve a deal at Camp David,
former president Bill Clinton gave vent to his frustrations this week over
the collapse of peace in the Mideast. And Clinton directed his ire at one
man: Yasir Arafat. On Tuesday night, Clinton told guests at a party at the
Manhattan apartment of former U.N. ambassador Richard Holbrooke and his wife,
writer Kati Marton, that Arafat called to bid him farewell three days before
he left office. “You are a great man,” Arafat said. “The hell I am,”
Clinton said he responded. “I’m a colossal failure, and you made me one.”


 Clinton described Arafat as an aging leader who relishes his own sense of
victimhood and seems incapable of making a final peace deal.

  CLINTON SAID HE TOLD Arafat that by turning down the best peace
deal he was ever going to get—the one proffered by Israeli Prime Minister
Ehud Barak and brokered by Clinton last July—the Palestinian leader was only
guaranteeing the election of the hawkish Ariel Sharon, the current Israeli
leader. But Arafat didn’t listen. Sharon was elected in a landslide Feb. 6
and has gradually escalated his crackdown on the Palestinians despite a shaky
ceasefire negotiated two weeks ago by CIA chief George Tenet.
Clinton has refused most interview requests since he left office Jan.
20. But at the party—which was held jointly by Holbrooke and the
International Crisis Group to celebrate a new book, “Waging Modern War,” by
former NATO commander Gen. Wesley Clark—Clinton captivated guests for nearly
an hour with an insider’s tale of the Camp David talks. Among the listeners,
who gathered around the former president as he cheerfully downed Diet Cokes
and hors d’oeuvres, were Holbrooke, Clark and John Negroponte, who has been
nominated by President Bush to replace Holbrooke as U.N. ambassador.



 Clinton said, somewhat surprisingly, that he never expected to close
the deal at Camp David. But he made it clear that the breakdown of the peace
process and the nine months of deadly intifada since then were very much on
his mind. He described Arafat as an aging leader who relishes his own sense
of victimhood and seems incapable of making a final peace deal. “He could
only get to step five, and he needed to get to step 10,” the former president
said. But Clinton expressed hope in the younger generation of Palestinian
officials, suggesting that a post-Arafat Palestinian leader might be able to
make peace, perhaps in as little as several years. “I’m just sorry I blew
this Middle East” thing, Clinton said shortly before leaving. “But I don’t
know what else I could have done.”
Clinton also revealed that, contrary to most conventional wisdom
after Camp David ended on July 25, 2000, the key issue that torpedoed the
talks in their final stages was not the division of East Jerusalem between
Palestinians and Israelis, but the Palestinian demand for a “right of
return” of refugees to Israel. On Jerusalem, he said, the two sides were down
to dickering over final language on who would get sovereignty over which part
of the Western Wall. But Arafat continued to demand that large numbers of
Palestinian refugees, mainly from the 1967 and 1948 wars, be allowed to
return—numbers that Clinton said both of them knew were unacceptable to the
Israelis.

Clinton said he bluntly contradicted Arafat when, in one of their
final conversations, the Palestinian leader expressed doubts that the ancient
Jewish temple actually lay beneath the Islamic-run compound in Jerusalem
containing the holy Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. This was a
critical point of dispute, since the Western Wall, a remnant of the temple’s
retaining wall, is the holiest site in Judaism and one the Israelis were
intent on maintaining sovereignty over. “I know it’s there,” Clinton said he
told Arafat. The so-called Al Aqsa intifada began after Ariel Sharon made a
controversial visit to the disputed compound on Sept. 28, 2000.




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[CTRL] Judge: West Palm Beach Vet Must Pay $7,300 for Flag Pole

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Judge: West Palm Beach Vet Must Pay $7,300 for Flag Pole
The Associated Press
Published: Jun 27, 2001

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) - A patriotic Jupiter resident said he was willing
to go to jail for flying an American flag from a 12-foot pole in his front
yard, a violation of his homeowners association and a court order.
But instead of jail time, a judge Wednesday ordered George Andres, a Korean
War veteran, to pay $100 for each day the pole was planted outside his town
house since she ordered him to take it down last October.

Andres could have faced up to 90 days in jail for contempt of court,
according to his attorney, Brook Fisher.

The Indian Creek Phase 3B Homeowners Association permits flags flown only
from wall brackets attached to the homes. It says 17 homeowners have chosen
to raise American flags that way.

But Andres, a former Marine and retired electrician, says he has a
constitutional right to fly the flag from the pole.

If you can burn a flag, you have no problem, he said. So, if you can burn
a flag, why can't you fly the flag?

He also contends he would be desecrating the flag by flying it from the
brackets because it would touch the bushes in his yard.

The association sued Andres over the flagpole, and a state court agreed with
it last October.

Circuit Judge Catherine Brunson ruled that the association's restriction
didn't infringe on Andres' rights. An appeals court earlier this month upheld
Brunson's ruling.

But the two sides were back in Brunson's West Palm Beach courtroom this week,
after the association said it had photos and a calendar to show that Andres
had flown the flag 73 days since the Oct. 27 ruling, which would cost him
$7,300.

Andres argued that he flew the flag only on federal holidays.

The association's attorney, Steven Selz, said the issue isn't about the flag,
but the pole, which hurts the neighborhood's appearance.

I know he's a patriotic guy, Selz said. But he has to follow the rules
like everybody else.




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Re: [CTRL] Seven Daily Posts to CTRL

[tenebroust]

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Let us not also get personal in our use of this list.  When one disagrees with the 
statement presented one attacks the statement not the person making it.  That is 
civility.  There is no need to go there.



On Thu, 28 June 2001, YnrChyldzWyld wrote:


 -Caveat Lector-

 On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Steve wrote:
 Prove just one thing for us, Saba. Send us a scan of your matches from
 Truman's  plane and the cigarette lighter with the Presidential Seal, and I
 will forever stop characterizing you privately as 'our favorite Internet
 psychotic.' Then I just might start believing you are a psyop agent.  You say
 you don't have access to a scanner?  ;-)

 And one has to wonder why, for someone who has supposedly sojourned over
 the years with such movers-and-shakers, and who claims one's near
 siblings continue do so

 ...that she seems to have nothing else to do but spend all day at her
 computer spewing out her insane steam-of-consciousness postings...

 Seems to be a mighty lonely existence for someone who claims to have
 been so close to such powerful people



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Re: [CTRL] How Ignorant are Scientists

[tenebroust]

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It is not a blanket statement.  It is meant to refer to scientists who hold old line 
theories (not necessarily invalid or untrue ones, lets get that straight), like 
evolution, the inhabitants of early America, the origin of the Sphinx, etc.  Who 
routinely keep research out of peer reviewed publications, ignore or ridicule 
alternate theories that are put forward by reputable scientists, NOT because the 
theories are stupid or invalid, or UNscientific but because they hold the view that 
their theory is correct and all others MUST therefore be wrong, and thus should be 
ignored.



On Thu, 28 June 2001, Steve Suranie wrote:


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 Perhaps it would be good if you offered a specific example instead of
 blanketing all scientist in this fashion. I missed the beginning of this
 thread so I'm not sure if you are talking about a specific incident or just
 scientist in general.

  --
  From: tenebroust
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  That is precisely why the analogy works becuase established science has a
  religious structure and as such does not take any guff from those who wish
  to go outside of its constraints.
 
 
 
 
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[CTRL] House Panel Investigating Crime Boss Family's $50,000 Payment to Roger Clinton

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House Panel Investigating Crime Boss Family's $50,000 Payment to Roger Clinton
By Christopher Newton Associated Press Writer
Published: Jun 28, 2001

WASHINGTON (AP) - The family of a convicted crime boss paid Roger Clinton
$50,000 and the check is being examined by a House panel investigating how
the Clinton administration doled out pardons, according to a House official.
Rosario Gambino, a convicted heroin trafficker and reputed mafia boss, did
not receive a pardon from former President Clinton. But the White House did
request background information on Gambino from the Justice Department near
the end of Clinton's second term, a source familiar with the House
investigation said late Wednesday.

The New York Times reported on its Web site that the background request was
connected to a possible White House pardon. The Justice Department sent the
Clinton administration a record of Gambino's criminal record, the newspaper
said.

A source close to the investigation also told the Times that Roger Clinton
wrote a letter to Clinton's parole commission in 1999 on behalf of Gambino.
Roger Clinton is former President Clinton's half brother.

We have posed questions to Mr. (Roger) Clinton and we did ask about a
$50,000 payment from a company owned by the family of Rosario Gambino, who is
serving at lengthy prison sentence for heroin traffic, Mark Corallo, a
spokesman for the House Committee on Government Reform, told The Associated
Press.

Gambino is serving a 45-year sentence, Corallo said.

Roger Clinton's lawyer, Bart H. Williams, acknowledged Wednesday that his
client had received money from the Gambino family, according to the Times.

Tommy Gambino is a friend of Roger Clinton's and has been for many years,
Williams told the newspaper. I'm not going to comment on what the payment is
for or about. I am going to say it was not related to Roger Clinton's
assisting Tommy Gambino's father in his parole efforts or any other effort.

Corallo said proof of the check showed up when congressional investigators
subpoenaed information on payments Roger Clinton received from people he
requested pardons for.

Roger Clinton has repeatedly denied that he received any payments for pardon
requests.

The controversy over whether the Clinton administration offered pardons for
money began in the weeks after the president's final day in office, when he
granted 177 clemencies and commutations.

Three cases drew instant criticism: the pardon of then-fugitive commodities
broker Marc Rich, commutations for four Hasidic Jews convicted of fraud and
an allegation that Roger Clinton received up to $200,000 for promising to
help a Texas man win a pardon.




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[CTRL] Major Iraqi troop movements reported

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Major Iraqi troop movements reported



SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Thursday, June 28, 2001
Iraq continues to redeploy thousands of troops as well as tanks and artillery
near the borders of Jordan, Syria and Turkey. U.S. officials termed the
movements an exercise and said the White House and Pentagon were closely
monitoring them.

Iraqi opposition sources said the military has been placed on alert around
Baghdad and in northern and southern Iraq. They reported the activation of
anti-aircraft batteries and the opening of weapons storehouses, Middle East
Newsline reported.

The troop movement, the sources said, appears to reinforce major routes that
lead from Iraq to Syria and Jordan.

U.S. officials said the redeployment appears to be an exercise of Iraq's
logistical capabilities. They said similar exercises are conducted every few
months and do not represent an immediate danger.

So far, thousands Iraqi troops and tanks have arrived over the last 72 hours
to the Irbil area just south of the Kurdish autonomous zone near Turkey.
Iraqi troops were also seen arriving at the large military base in Rutba near
the Jordanian border as well as positions near the Syrian border.

Officials said the Iraqi troop movement is being closely monitored in the
White House and Pentagon. They are also the subject of talks during the
current visit by a State Department delegation to northern Iraq. The State
Department envoys are meeting Kurdish leaders in an effort to obtain Kurdish
help to enforce United Nations sanctions on Baghdad.

We have seen reports that Iraq is moving troops towards the Kurdish areas,
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said. We are trying to establish
the facts on the ground. We are watching the situation closely.

U.S. officials said Iraqi troops and tanks have also returned to Al Qaim,
site of a suspected Iraqi chemical weapons plant in western Iraq. Iraq has
acquired 200 of a planned 1,300 tank transporters from Russia. The
transporters are meant to overcome Iraq's shortage of spare parts.

Iraq, the sources said, has obtained at least 200 tank transporters from
Russia. They said Baghdad plans to import up to 1,300 such vehicles in an
effort to compensate for a lack of spare parts for tanks and armored
personnel carriers.

Arab intelligence sources have confirmed the preparations. They said Baghdad
is preparing for a military conflict with U.S. and British forces.

Baghdad, they said, expects allied attacks on military bases and
anti-aircraft positions that endanger U.S. and British patrols of no-fly
zones in northern and southern Iraq.

On late Monday, an Iraqi military spokesman said U.S. and British warplanes
conducted 32 sorties over northern and southern Iraq. The spokesman said
Iraqi anti-aircraft fire forced the allied planes to return to their bases in
Kuwait and Turkey.

The Iraqi military preparations has concerned Kurdish separatists in the
north, who have established an autonomous zone. Kurdish leaders are concerned
that President Saddam Hussein, with the blessing of Iraq's northern neighbor,
Turkey, will launch an attack on Kurdistan.

Kurdish leaders have warned the United States that the regime of President
Saddam Hussein plans to crush the Kurdish autonomous zone in a so-called
Arabization policy. They said this includes the expulsion of Kurds from key
oil-rich areas in the north.

Masoud Barazani, head of the Kurdistan Democracy Party, said Turkey will
remain a strong ally of the Kurds. Barazani said the four million Kurds in
northern Iraq don't want to break away and form a separate state, an entity
vociferously opposed by Ankara.

On Monday, Turkey's parliament extended the mandate of the British and U.S.
forces that patrol the no-fly zone in northern Iraq. The mandate, called
Operation Northern Watch, began in 1997 and was extended until the end of
this year.




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[CTRL] China, N. Korea hit with sanctions

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China, N. Korea hit with sanctions
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 The State Department has imposed sanctions on companies in China and
North Korea for selling chemical-weapons materials and missile engines to
Iran.

 State Department officials yesterday told The Washington Times that
sales to Iran by China's Jiangsu Yongli Chemicals and Technology Import and
Export Corp. and by North Korea's Changgwang Sinyong Corp. triggered a
provision of a 2000 law on weapons shipments to Iran.
 Both companies had previously been sanctioned by the United States for
weapons sales.
 A State Department official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said
the action shows the administration will follow U.S. laws aimed at curbing
the spread of nuclear, chemical and biological arms, and missile-delivery
systems.
 It is an indication the administration is prepared to implement our
sanctions law, the official said.
 The sanctions bar any U.S. government agency from doing business with
the companies or providing assistance to them.
 We did what was required under the law, the State Department spokesman
said. The sanctions will last for two years.
 Officials said the sanctions are largely symbolic since the U.S.
government does not do business with the companies in question.
 The department had made no public announcement of the sanctions, which
appeared Tuesday in the Federal Register, the official outlet for U.S.
government announcement of the imposition of sanctions.
 It is the first time the Bush administration has imposed economic
sanctions for weapons-related transfers. Some administration officials,
including Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, have questioned the use of
sanctions as a foreign-policy tool.
 The State Department official said the Chinese company was sanctioned in
1997 for helping build a facility for manufacturing dual-use equipment that
can make chemical arms. Recently, we observed some more recent behavior [by
the company] that enabled the Iranians to get this plant up and running, the
official said.
 The North Korean company was sanctioned for its role in providing Iran
with missile engines. The sales triggered a U.S. law that calls for sanctions
on sales that violate the provisions of the multination Missile Technology
Control Regime.
 U.S. intelligence officials disclosed to The Times last year that North
Korea sold 12 missile engines to Iran in November 1999. The engines were
believed to be for Iran's new Shahab medium-range missiles.
 The Chinese company, located in Nanjing, produces a variety of chemicals
and related equipment, including pipes and pumps, that have applications for
building chemical weapons, U.S. officials said. In 1997, it criticized the
earlier U.S. sanctions as based on groundless charges.
 The Changgwang Sinyong company was slapped with U.S. economic sanctions
in April 2000 for selling missile technology to Syria. It was also sanctioned
in January for other missile sales.
 The Iran Nonproliferation Act calls for sanctions on companies or
governments that sell goods that can be used for Iran's weapons of mass
destruction or missile programs.
 The law, sponsored by Rep. Benjamin A. Gilman, New York Republican,
requires the president to report to Congress regularly on weapons and related
sales to Iran that would be banned under U.S. law.
 It was targeted at Russian firms that helped Iran's missile programs.
But the legislation also covers sales of nuclear, chemical and biological
weapons-related materials that would boost Iran's capability to build such
arms.
 China and North Korea are considered by the U.S. intelligence agencies
that track weapons sales to be among the most aggressive suppliers of
nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and missile goods and technology to
developing nations.
 China has been sanctioned by the U.S. government in the past for its
arms sales. A CIA intelligence report in 1996 stated that a Chinese firm
shipped 400 metric tons of chemicals used in producing nerve gas to an
Iranian chemical-arms center.
 China also helped Iran during the late 1990s to build a factory that
produces special glass-lined equipment -- a key element in manufacturing
chemical weapons.
 China is a member of the Chemical Weapons Convention, which obligates
Beijing not to assist any country in developing chemical arms. But a Senate
Foreign Relations Committee report in September stated that China
consistently fails to adhere to its nonproliferation commitments.
 A CIA report to Congress made public in February stated that Iran in the
first half of 2000 continued to seek production technology, training,
expertise, equipment, and chemicals that could be used as precursor agents in
its chemical warfare (CW) program from entities in Russia and China.
 The report said Iran has stockpiled 

[CTRL] Bush could still send troops to Macedonia

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Bush could still send troops to Macedonia

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President George W. Bush has not ruled out the possibility of sending US
troops to Macedonia to help quell unrest there.

I take no option off the table in terms of the troops. We're a participant
in NATO, Mr Bush told reporters yesterday when asked if he saw any chance of
committing US soldiers to Macedonia to prevent a civil war.

He pointed out that he had pledged during a trip to Europe earlier this month
that the US would stick with NATO peacekeeping forces in the Balkans as long
as they are there. Mr Bush also elaborated on an executive order he signed
earlier in the day taking steps to stop ethnic Albanian rebels in Macedonia
from being financed by US citizens.

A new European Union envoy yesterday urged Macedonia to talk to ethnic
Albanian guerrillas. But the former Yugoslav republic, appearing keener to
crush them by force, shelled a rebel stronghold.

They have to speak with these guerrillas to try, with the leaders of this
Albanian-speaking part of their country, to see that a consensus emerges and
peace can be installed, the envoy, Mr François Léotard, told Europe 1 radio.

Western officials, desperate to prevent another Balkan war, have been trying
to foster government talks with politicians representing ethnic Albanians,
but have not said before that the armed rebels should be brought into
negotiations.

EU and NATO officials said in Brussels that Mr Léotard's remarks did not
reflect the official Western position, which rules out talks with the
guerrillas, and he may have confused rebels with the Albanian political
leaders. Prospects of the government listening to Mr Léotard looked dim.

Macedonian forces shelled one village held by the rebels and reportedly
bombarded another area yesterday, a day after President Boris Trajkovski
seemed to ease inter-ethnic tensions with an appeal for calm.

Skopje, where ethnic Albanians and members of the majority ethnic Slav
population live side by side, appeared to be returning to normal. The capital
was shaken by nationalist riots on Monday which seemed to be pushing
Macedonia towards civil war.

The UN refugee agency said 1,800 more people entered Kosovo on Tuesday,
bringing the total to 71,370 since fighting began in February.

A Reuters cameraman said troops reinforced a position near the village of
Umin Dol, in the north-east, as heavy artillery and tank fire struck the
neighbouring village of Nikustak which lies six 6 km from wartorn Aracinovo.

The United States plans to commit large amounts of money at a donors'
conference tomorrow to help rebuild Yugoslavia, but it will not do so unless
Belgrade continues to co-operate with the UN war crimes tribunal, a US
official said yesterday.

Washington decided to attend the Brussels conference after Yugoslav
authorities moved to transfer former president Slobodan Milosevic to the UN
court at The Hague. - (Reuters)




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Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible Liberals andPalestinianprop...

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  You bet I do.  I can even hear Sharon's chortle because he knew what was
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 Then you are halucenating, because you weren't there. 

I was a lot closer than you would think.  Prudy

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