OT: OpenForge Re: new here (fwd)
Hi, One time notice... The name resolver issues are resolved. The domains should be updated and active by Thursday. We'll be moving SSZ over from it's current connection sometime this weekend. All the current SSZ mailing lists will move with the exeption of the Cypherpunks related ones and Club Inferno. These bring me entirely too many subpeonas and visits from 'shady characters' for me to want to share that privilige with others ;) The Austin Cypherpunks are expected to be active in projects however (I'm still wanting to build a radiation based diode RNG, versus a Geiger-Meuller tube). First I need to get 'igor' (Perl based anon remailer/mail list manager) working and that isn't really scheduled to even start until something like July (we've got to finish the initial server farm first). Stu is working on the physical meeting and we should have something worked out in the next week or two. We hope to have the first meets the last of Feb. or first week of March. We hope to have weekly meetings with topics in a variety of areas. However, we are NOT primarily a support organization, we are focused on projects and services. The Austin Cypherpunks will continue with their traditional monthly 'social' meeting. For more mundane project discussion one of the Open Groups meetings will be more workable. The 802.11b's are about 10 miles apart (~183@Target, & ~48th@Duval, we'll be adding one in Leander in the near term as well) and will be accessible only by Open Forge/Hangar 18 participants (to all those local users groups that declined our invitation - your loss - we tried to be more liberal and you said 'no'). The proposed site in Elgin was dropped when the sponsor decided it wasn't worth his time. We are looking for any potential participants in that area. I understand that OpenMosix is now available (see /. for more info). As soon as I can get some time I'll build up a box and make it available to participants. Thank you and good night. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:46:15 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OpenForge Re: new here Welcome Subhash, On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Prajapati, Subhash wrote: > Guys I have been in touch with Linux for the > past 1.5 years and have loved it. > I used SuSE linux 7.0 and have installed it > on many occasions. > > I heard that Plan9 is much better than any > other Unix ... and want to try it out. > so i joined this news group Then learn rule #1 - NO OS WARS, we have better things to do with our time. If you have access to a "Running Linux" 1st or 2nd ed., look in the appendix under sites to obtain Linux in the 512 area code...:) > How shud i proceed... > Will downloading the OS and installing it > rightaway be an advisable step, or shud I > read some documentation about this OS first. What I discovered is that Plan 9 is a distributed OS, therefore to use it you need a distributed infrastructure. That implies several machines. I'd suggest loading a I/O-Auth server and learn the basic sys admin (the first thing you ALWAYS do with a OS after getting a good load). Then build a file server, followed by at least two (2) process boxes. Our current state is that we have the T1 in stalled and two 802.11b wireless AP's in Austin, Tx. We are currently fighting name resolver issues under SuSE 7.3, as soon as they are resolved in the next couple of days we'll link the two sites together (ie ssz.com w/ mansion.org & open-forge.org/com goes live). Once we have the firewall and routing issues taken care of we'll be replacing our primary DNS machine with a Plan 9 box (once we figure out how). The best target for a Plan 9 cluster of services (ie a I/O/Auth/DNS server, a 80G file server, and at least two process boxes is July). We stongly(!) invite others to put up resources sooner. Once the resources are up we've got to figure out a way to control access (probably a sign-up via webpage). Hangar 18 (and Open Forge) is not the usual 'user group'. We are a co-op. This means that if you want to play, you have to provide some sort of service to grow the co-op. Rule #2: No free loaders or lurkers. If you're not working on an active project you're in the wrong place. If you just want to munge system resources then you'll have to find a current co-op member who is willing to give away access gratis. The Open Forge group doesn't do that. This means that in order to get a reliable connection to Open Forge through ssz.com, mansion.org, or open-forge.org/com you'll need to have something to share with the community. It could be a machine with 24*365 access (part-time isn't acceptable for servers), program on projects, host a cluster of mail lists (we're currently at 200+ when we go live). Users will of course be able to access the 80G file server and a small (maybe 2-4) sub-set of our planned process cluster. This small set of resources will be available for a
Ecoterrorism,Cali bushfires jihad?
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=134077&group=webcast Global warming and a cigarette lighter make for a corralitos campfire.
Re: CDR: green activist calls self 'terrorist' :Black and white on Choate prime.
>>I believed then - and yes, it was arrogant - that the fires and threats > would make a difference," he said. "There is no environmental or > religious excuse for terrorism of any kind." Really? What happens when that environmental or religious activity is itself terrorism? What a hypocrite. He should read the first two para's of the DoI... << He may have been tortured in the infamous Amerikkklan Gulag,One of the largest in the world.I would be terrorized by some of the sentences dished out by the rogue terror state.Hypocrite is an absurd word to use here but then it gets weirder..."He should read the first two para's of the DoI... " WTF has parchment worship got to do with it Are they the ones the SLAVETRADER and CHILDRAPIST Jefferson lifted from Masons Virginia parchment? At least Mason had the decency not to sign such GROSS HYPOCRISY as the CONstitution. Why is this parchment worship dragged in here again and again.Garlic and crucifix?
Re: CDR: green activist calls self 'terrorist'
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > "I believed then - and yes, it was arrogant - that the fires and threats > would make a difference," he said. "There is no environmental or > religious excuse for terrorism of any kind." Really? What happens when that environmental or religious activity is itself terrorism? What a hypocrite. He should read the first two para's of the DoI... -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
Candygram for mongo.
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Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Marcel Popescu wrote: > The idea of "experiments" is socialistic in nature; capitalism is based on > principles. Capitalism is based on profit, not principles. It uses 'principles' or 'strategies' to manage that profit. Religion and politics are based on principles (one of which is usually "they don't apply to me, only you"). > Speaking of which - has anyone here read Hoppe's "Theory of Socialism and > Capitalism"? (Available online at http://www.mises.org/etexts/Soc&Cap.pdf) > More to the point, does anyone know of any *counter-arguments* ? No, I'll take a look at it (after I finish with James D's Chomsky drivel). -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
The Axis fund.
Defense analysts say that most of this has nothing to do with streamlining the military for the light, super-mobile special ops needed to fight terrorists. But who cares? There's money to be made. Predictably, the Big Five are all doing well on Wall Street (except, oddly, Boeing, the only loser in the fund, down 5.9 percent since 9-11). But the real highfliers in the Axis of Evil are the security and biometrics companies that will help homeland defenders track your every move and keep out the jihadis. Viisage Technology, which makes digital ID systems, is up 317 percent; Visionics, which helps law enforcement manage fingerprint and voice and face recognition databases, is up 182 percent; Invision Technologies, which makes explosives-detection systems (useful at luggage check-ins), is up a rip-roaring 1,299 percent. Then there are bioterror detection experts like Cepheid and bullet manufacturers like Alliant Techsystems, both looking very healthy. Point is: Run down the line of companies that cater to a climate of impending doom, you'll find rising returns in every one. I called up Amy Domini, who manages Domini Social Equity for investors with a "conscience," to brag about how well the Axis of Evil is doing. Social funds like Domini make a point of shutting out tobacco, alcohol, gambling, big oil, defense, small arms, and agribusiness stocks -- wherever profit seems to come before people, the social funds say no. As for the Axis: "Well," says Domini with a sigh, "I've never come across such a fund. If it did exist, the manager would have to be the most cynical human being ever born. But this is definitely his time -- the heyday for such a thing. There's a man in the White House who appears to be absolutely obsessed with war." But if there's a war on, isn't it in fact far from cynical to invest in the big-budget defenders of the nation? I mean, get with the program, Domini! Come in for the Big Push. Come to think of it, it's the socially "responsible" funds that are un-American: They won't invest in oil or pistols or even Jack Daniels. Probably dangerous; definitely to be monitored. More importantly, look at their lousy returns. Since 9-11, Domini Social rose just .84 percent, beating out the Dow, sure, by a hundredth of a percentage point -- squat compared to the Axis' 185 percent. Other socials climbed in the 1 to 2 percent range. The Pax World Balanced Fund was down 1.1 percent. Pax just doesn't pay. praise Bush and pass the ammunition. Our fund is looking even better than when Turchansky ran the numbers back in October: The Axis of Evil returned 185 percent for the period from Sept. 10 to the close on Feb. 5. For the same period, the S&P 500 climbed a piddling .32 percent, the Dow Jones Industrial a mere .83 percent. Center stage in the fund, of course, are the Big Five defense contractors. Boeing is set to make billions on deals for its lethally dysfunctional V-22 Osprey helicopter-turboprop and its generously over-budget F-22 Raptor fighter jet. Raytheon makes the $750,000 Tomahawk missile, a favorite weapon of the military and used by the scores in Sudan, Iraq and now Afghanistan (the Navy, apparently, is running out of them). Lockheed Martin just sealed a $200 billion development contract for something called the Joint Strike Fighter. Northrop Grumman describes itself as "well-positioned in missile defense," meaning that it stands to win on the $9.2 billion Bush hopes to spend on the newly formed Missile Defense Agency (funding is expected to rise to over $11 billion annually by 2007). And shipbuilder General Dynamics is looking at some $7 billion in contracts for destroyers and attack submarines and aircraft carriers and lots of other costly toys.
Re: Sheeple Land With Hands on Heads
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: > That is exactly why the attack will not happen. Think about it. If you sacrificed 20 >people in the first one, doesn't it make sense to sacrifice 20 more and finish the >job, if the job was indeed defeating the US government ? Something tells me that it >was not. Hint: learn to edit to 80 columns... To the point, no it doesn't make sense. Using people for cannon fodder never makes sense. Resorting to any sort of coersive responce never makes sense. If somebody doesn't want to play the only sensible, reasonable, responce is to leave them along. Treating people like property never makes sense. Unfortunately there are still people who can't learn from history, and as a consequence believe there are angels among men (and most folks who hold this view believe they are the angels). -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
Re: Heavenly Weenies
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Michael Motyka wrote: > Religion and history have very little to do with the religion of Bush or > Ashcroft ( or Falwell, or Robertson, or Reed ). Theirs is a rhetorical > religion, an emotional distillation of earlier systems that has even > less to do with spiritual thought than its founding beverage. That applies to all religion and politics. Your point ain't. Re: Jeffersons commentary about angels among men. -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
The Axis fund.
Go long on RSA I guess...http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/02/11/axis_of_evil_fund/index.html "The logical choice for the jingo investor in wartime, the Axis fund is a compendium of companies that stand to make a killing in the war on terror. Axis is designed to profit in times of hostility and fear." Daily Bleedster...1956 -- Crypt-kicker Screamin' Jay Hawkins records I Put a Spell on You for Okeh records in New York City. http://www.roadhouseblues.com/biopages/bioScreaminJ.htm
Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Steve Schear wrote: > At 06:27 PM 2/11/2002 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > > >Oh, there are no 'hereditary rights'. You can't inherit a right from your > >parents. You're simply born with it. > > You should take this up with Mr. Paine. My copy of his collected works > shows numerous references to the term he applied to the rights monarchs > insisted they possessed. Which demostrates my point. See first two para's of the DoI. Say goodnight Gracy... -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
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Re: Cruel and unusual punishment
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Takes Apache to kill Apache. The US Army did a good job of it using scouts from other tribes. Guerrilla warfare is not a guarantee, it is only a strategic tactic against 'traditional' combat methods. Stop fighting traditionaly and the guerrilla approach becomes less effective. There are a variety of historical precedence for this (the failure of the Apache is only one of them - providing smallpox infested blankets is most definitely guerrilla warfare). -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
The encrypted jihad (fwd),
Salons "schwarzchild radius" seems to keep moving further out.I wonder if they'll ever get to one word teasers? "Sodomy" Amy Reiter," "Gibberish" Charles taylor,etc... Also "assassination politics" translated into Arabic and distributed like the Quoran? "Surrounded by Moslem maniacs on one side and Christian maniacs on the other, the wise Lord Hassan [al-Sabbah] preserved his people and his cult by bringing the art of assassination to aesthetic perfection. With just a few daggers strategically placed in exactly the right throats, he found Wisdom's alternative to war, and preserved the peoples by killing their leaders. Truly, his was a most exemplary life of grandmotherly kindness."Anarchy Al Ackbar!
Re: Trends in criminal acts against civil aviation 1992-2000
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Greg Newby wrote: > I was surprised to see that the number of US-registered air carriers > involved in hijackings (and most other acts the FAA considers in these > reports) from 1992 - 2000 is zero. > > This stuff happens to non-US airlines, and usually outside > of the US. > The last bomb that detonated on a US domestic or US originating flight was in 1962 (unless flight 800 was a bomb). I think the last (domestic) highjacking (before 11 September) was in the 1980s. An interesting note is that a bomb or a highjacking are not considered accidents so the September 11th deaths are not counted against US airline safety records and in spite of the AA crash in NYC on November 12th, last year was officially one of the safest years in the history of US commercial aviation. DCF
Fw: All hail Lawrence Lessig (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:44:32 -0500 Subject: Fw: All hail Lawrence Lessig - Original Message - > Lawrence Lessig continues his work to drag sanity back into copyrights: > > "...Within a few months, artists, writers and others will soon be able > to go online, select the options that suit them best and receive a > custom-made license they can append to their works without having to pay > a dime to a lawyer, let alone the thousands of dollars it typically > costs to purchase similar legal services. ... In one masterstroke, > Lessig and colleagues will empower creators of intellectual property by > giving them more control over their work while also increasing the > communal technical resources that contribute to innovation and growth. > The result will be a new spark of life for the Internet, and for the > tech sector in general." > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/02/11/creatcom .DTL >
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The encrypted jihad (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:43:56 -0500 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The encrypted jihad http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/02/04/terror_encryption/print.html The encrypted jihad We can't stop terrorists from using uncrackable codes. So we shouldn't even try. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Barak Jolish Feb. 4, 2002 | Here's a tip for Treasury Department agents tracking al-Qaida's finances: You might want to pay a visit to the volume discount department at Dell Computer. Al-Qaida, it seems, has been an avid consumer of computers over the last several years, and is especially fond of laptops. It isn't hard to understand why. With his hectic, on-the-go lifestyle, no self-respecting terrorist can function without a computer that fits comfortably on an airplane tray table. Alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, for instance, used his to research crop dusters, quite possibly in preparation for a biological attack on a densely populated American city. Ramsi Yousef used a laptop he accidentally left in a Manila apartment to plan his extensive itinerary, which included assassinating the pope in the Philippines, attacking an Israeli Embassy in Thailand, and bombing the World Trade Center in 1993. It's not surprising, then, that the seizure of computers has become a primary goal for U.S. soldiers scouring Afghan caves and ambushing Taliban and al-Qaida operatives. Ironically, though, winning possession of this equipment on the battlefield may be the easy part; terrorists today have the capacity to protect data with encryption schemes that not even America's high-tech big guns can crack. The number of possible keys in the new 256-bit Advanced Encryption Standard (AES), for example, is 1 followed by 77 zeros -- a figure comparable to the total number of atoms in the universe. Luckily, not all encryption is hopelessly secure. Ramsi Yousef was careless in protecting the password to his encrypted files, giving the FBI relatively easy access to their contents. It took the Wall Street Journal only days to decrypt files on two Al-Qaida computers that used a weak version of the Windows 2000 AES cipher in Afghanistan. The U.S. cannot, however, count on such carelessness indefinitely. But recent changes in U.S. policy have actually reduced restrictions on the spread of sophisticated encryption. In January 2000, for instance, the Clinton administration ruled that "retail products" that undergo a one-time, 30-day government review can be exported to nearly all countries (with the exception of Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) without any government licensing requirement. Revisions published later that year relaxed even these limitations for products exported to the 15 nations of the European Union and several of their major trading partners. The practical effect of these reforms has been that the industrial-strength Windows 2000 128-bit High Encryption Pack is now freely available over the Internet to anyone, including Hamburg residents such as presumed Sept. 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta. Since Sept. 11, some commentators and lawmakers have suggested that the U.S. reverse itself once again, and redouble efforts to control encryption. On the surface, this sentiment is understandable -- it is difficult to argue against any moves that may prevent future terrorist attacks on the scale of the WTC disaster. This position is, however, dead wrong. Quite simply, the U.S. regime of strict encryption controls didn't make sense before Sept. 11, and it doesn't make sense now. The starkest illustration of this reasoning is the case study of Israel, which is simultaneously a leader in encryption product exports and a major focus of terrorist attacks. Before President Clinton's 2000 reforms, proponents of encryption export controls were besieged from all sides: on the left and right flanks privacy advocates argued that strong encryption is vital to protecting individual liberty against government intrusion. First Amendment devotees launched a frontal attack in the courts, claiming that encryption code was essentially speech. Most effective, however, was the carpet bombing of lobbyists and campaign contributions from the software industry -- the Microsofts, IBMs and Suns of the world -- who argued that export controls simply drove customers seeking secure products to companies in other countries -- such as Israel. These companies estimated their losses in billions of dollars, and noted the costs to workers as well; even domestic companies were hiring independent overseas software developers to create encryption products. Though their agendas differed, the above parties were united in their claims that the government's policy stood little chance of significantly controlling criminal use of encryption. First, they noted that producing encryption algorithm
[9fans] CGI (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:05:34 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [9fans] CGI Hello 9fans, Now I am considering about CGI environment of Web server. Let A be a CGI program that is owned by user alice, and assume the program needs to read from file B that must be protected to the accesses from other users. That is, the permission mode is required to be, -r--r- 16 alice alice B Then how can we design Web server on Plan9? In case of UNIX, this problem may be solved using SETUID, or more safely solved using CGI wrapper. Plan9 does not have such an easy way for `none' to become `alice'. Authentication must be required. Public key cryptography may be applied. Let the Web server start with server mode, then httpd can read secret key that is in a file owned by bootes with 400 permission. User alice encrypts her password using public key and puts it somewhere. In executing A, httpd decrypt her key and then become `alice'. I am afraid this scheem gives too much right to httpd. We need only a given CGI can read a given file. Do you have oher solutions? Kenji Arisawa E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aimee's C+U Punishment of written english and logic
Dear Aimee,you seem unusually verbose,would you like me to send you some of my zanax? "Historically, it has been essentially impossible to adequately motivate an assassin, ensuring his safety and anonymity as well, if only because it has been impossible to PAY him in a form that nobody can trace, and to ensure the silence of all potential witnesses. Even if a person was willing to die in the act, he would want to know that the people he chooses would get the reward, but if they themselves were identified they'd be targets of revenge. All that's changed with the advent of public-key encryption and digital cash. Now, it should be possible to announce a standing offer to all comers that a large sum of digital cash will be sent to him in an untraceable fashion should he meet certain "conditions," conditions which don't even have to include proving (or, for that matter, even claiming) that he was somehow responsible for a death."Saint Jim of Lompoc.
The Federal Govt invites you to the Mephisto waltz.
A boom in security and spying software is underway,be aware of the pitfalls...not APster alone. Blacknet?...http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/24028.html Trust us,we're from the Government. http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon7.html When action grows unprofitable, gather information; when information grows unprofitable, sleep. Ursula K. LeGuin, The Left Hand of Darkness
Microsofts hacker crackdown.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24029.html APster's still has high hopes for .NET dead pools in spite of this backward looking appointment.Mitnick's busy? Direct action_ is what it's all about. Undermining the state through the spread of espionage networks, through undermining faith in the tax system, through even more direct applications of the right tools at the right times. When Cypherpunks are called "terrorists," we will have done our jobs. Font: Daschle-Anthrax-Bold Theres some IE security updates out,look around the REG or risk becoming carrion.
Re: Libraries Cull Collections to Make Feds Happy
On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 04:38 PM, Eric Cordian wrote: > Here's an interesting little story. The Feds are rethinking the idea of > continuing to make documents which detail information about vulnerable > infrastructure available to the public. > > Indeed, many such documents are no longer on government Web pages. I reported first-hand evidence of this in the first few weeks following 911, when I found a bunch of government sites on reactor locations, dam sites, etc. had been made inaccessible. Others confirmed that hundreds of sources of public information--in many case information required by law to be public--ceased being available. Like most government responses to 911, it was a feel-good cosmetic move. Anyone seriously interested in doing damage would spend the extra effort to get beyond the speed bumps, but ordinary folks won't. > > The Feds recently sent out a letter to 1300 libraries across the > country, > asking them to destroy a particular document about water supplies. > > The libraries cheerfully complied. > > One wonders if the libraries would have rolled over so easily had the > government requested the destruction of "The Turner Diaries," "Why > Buildings Fall Down," or "Heather Has Two Mommies." Many already have done just such things. And not just recently. --Tim May
Re: Tivo: Super Britney Replays Ruled
On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 11:51 AM, j eric townsend wrote: > At 16:58 -0800 2002/02/11, Tim May wrote: >> No, they don't care about the receiver's location. > > Yes they do. They care when it comes to determining what local market > you're in for the purposes of providing local stations. I know that. I meant in the context of having a phone line, which I never had hooked up from 1996 to now. > >> Data point: My DirecTV receiver was hooked up without a telephone >> hookup for almost 6 years with no issues or questions. > > Then you got lucky. Lots of people are asked/required to make a phone > call for various reasons. > > Many DTV features require a phone connection. This is not speculation. What more can I say? I've had DirecTV since May 1996 and there has never been the slightest issue of having a phone line hooked up. Like I said, I never order PPV movies nor do I order any of the sports packages. Everything else is unencumbered by the lack of a phone connection. --Tim May, Occupied America "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
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Kraut Spy Scandal.Democracies or Spookocracies?
A German Government campaign to ban a neo-Nazi party is in disarray after it was disclosed that five senior members of the National Democratic Party of Germany have been government informers for decades. The revelation suggests a cosy relationship between senior party members and intelligence officials and that the party was led by government agents. MORE http://theage.com.au/news/world/2002/02/13/FFXEBYRKKXC.html AND Swiss idiots try to ban the internet news http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=22308&group=webcast "The entire Eastern Bloc fell, almost bloodlessly, in a couple weeks, because one by one everybody realized that all that's sometimes required is to finally stand up and be counted, and to just say no to the government. When the time was right, all it took was a slight push."
DSD broke the law in aussie Spy OUTRAGE!l
http://theage.com.au/news/national/2002/02/13/FFXB3ZRKKXC.html Defence Minister Robert Hill confirmed last night that Australia's satellite spy agency, the Defence Signals Directorate, monitored communications with the Tampa during last year's asylum-seeker stand-off. MORE DSD is part of Echelon. "It is believed the breach involved laws relating to spying on Australian citizens." AND "Intelligence expert Professor Des Ball, from the Australian National University Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, called for a judicial inquiry. He said the issues involved were momentous and a threat to the privacy of Australians" Use of the eavesdropped info and jamming of a call or calls at a critical time possibly swung a very close election. For details of a previous election interfered with by "intelligence" agencies see http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=22310&group=webcast
Trends in criminal acts against civil aviation 1992-2000
I came across some interesting reading. I'm working on a paper about information security and security through obscurity. Part of my thesis is that tightened airport security in the US largely misses the mark. My main goal is to identify where traditional "security through obscurity" is being brought into play in recent security changes. Whatever. I found a good Web site that I wasn't aware of, and wanted to share some findings: FAA Office of Civil Aviation Security Criminal Acts Against Civil Aviation http://cas.faa.gov/crimacts/ This is really great reading. Every year (in about July for the previous year - nothing on 2001 yet), the FAA produces a detailed analysis of trends in hijacking, explosives, etc. involving civil aviation. It's intended to be exhaustive, with data from around the world. As we've all probably noticed, no US-based civil aviation incident goes unreported in the popular press. Hijackings and airline bombings, when they occur, are big news. I was surprised to see that the number of US-registered air carriers involved in hijackings (and most other acts the FAA considers in these reports) from 1992 - 2000 is zero. This stuff happens to non-US airlines, and usually outside of the US. Hijacking count by year (all incidents; total for US is 0 in all years): 200020 199911 19989 199710 199614 19959 199423 199331 199212 Bombings and attempted bombings is steady at close to zero across 1992 - 2000, with either 1 or 0 in all years worldwide (except 3 in 1994). Incidents tend to occur in Asia, Latin America and the Middle East, with fewer in Europe than might be expected and across the board very few in North America. The FAA's categories are: - "Hijackings of Civil Aviation Aircraft," - "Commandeerings of Civil Aviation Aircraft," (when the plane is on the ground at the start of the incident) - "Bombings/Attempted Bombings/ Shootings on Civil Aviation Aircraft," - "Shootings at In-Flight Aircraft," - "Attacks at Airports," - "Off-Airport Facility Attacks," and - "Incidents Involving Charter and General Aviation Aircraft." They specifically do not include incidents involving military aircraft, and exclude most incidents that occur in wartorn areas. (A note to the alert: I don't think TWA 800's explosion in 1996 appears in these reports, as the cause was not determined as of July 1997 when the 1996 report came out. Reports are only available online 1996-2000, and cover a 5-year period -- that's why I don't go back further.) >From the evidence in these reports, you might form several different hypotheses: - The world suddenly turned much more dangerous in 2001 (at least the US part of the world). - Airport security in the US is truly exceptional, resulting in a disproportionally small number of reportable incidents. - For a variety of reasons, the US and US-based airlines have just not been as attractive to criminals as non-US. (This is at least partially true: a lot of incidents involve people seeking political asylum -- people don't get on a jet at JFK to seek asylum in the US [or on a jet headed towards JFK], as they're already there! The reports comment on this several times.) - The US media and government trend of refusing to acknowledge or even publicize the demands of hijackers has decreased the appeal (other countries have followed suit with this approach). Remember Tommy Lee Jones in "The Fugitive?" "I don't negotiate." Whatever angle you take, there seems to be pretty damned good airline security in the US and for US-based airlines. Here's a quote from the 2000 report, in which the number of incidents overall nearly doubled (to 42) from the prior 3 years: "During the past few years, the relatively low number of incidents that were recorded may have been interpreted as an indication that the threat to civil aviation was decreasing. The fact that the number of aviation-related incidents in 2000 increased by 75% proves such an interpretation to be premature. To be sure, the threat to civil aviation has not significantly decreased. In addition to the ever-present threat of a terrorist hijacking or bombing, an individual who hijacks a plane to seek asylum, a guerrilla group that attacks an airport, or a terrorist group that bombs an airline ticket office, constitutes a threat as well. The increase in the number of incidents in 2000 attests to the fact that civil aviation continues to be a target of terrorists and non-terrorists alike." (p. 47) -- Greg
college profs are spies when embassy is full
1963 -- US: CIA Domestic Operations Division created. "A few years back, a man high up in the CIA name Ray Cline was asked if the CIA, by its survellance of protest organizations in the United States, was violating the free speech provision of the First Amendment. He Smiled & said: 'It's only an amendment.'" From the URL... >>The key to defeating terrorists, he writes in the book, is to "go out and start talking to people" who can see and hear what the CIA cannot. The CIA needs to let its spies "perform their jobs, no matter how murky the swamp is," he wrote.< Welcome back Aimee the swamp thing.Stay close. >all CIA officers are required to sign a statement saying they will abide by a ban on assassinations contained in a presidential executive order.< Before paying some goons in smack and/or weapons to do their dirty work.The last 4 presidents have all tried to assassinate people too,they didn't put that in.Do as we say not as we do?"The highest ambition of the integrated spectacle is still to turn secret agents into revolutionaries, & revolutionaries into secret agents." GUY DEBORD, 1988 ALSO SEEN AT... http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020212-30449685.htm Chilling quotes from State terrorists in China.DUMP RSA STOCK!
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green activist calls self 'terrorist'
>>Wonder what kind of deal he got for calling himself a "terrorist" (tm, USG) They were calling ELF and ALF people terrorists prior to 9-11,Jeff "free' luers is serving 22 years for torching SUV's Cars more important than house's? The sentences seem extreme compared to murder and rape.Also Chris Boyce and Leonard Peltier have served over 20 years each and they didn't kill anyone either.18 years! Cruel and unusual . "Terrorism really flourishes in areas of poverty, despair and hopelessness, where people see no future."C.Powell.
Re: Will the Govt encrypt the 2.5 mill reward for agent anthrax?
>>I've never received a paycheck from the government in my life, you stupid son of a bitch. If someone far more intelligent and enterprising than you took it into his head to publish my 1040s for the past 10 years right here, I'd have absolutely nothing to fear on that account. << You pay taxes,you support the Govt you deserve death,don't you listen to the Sheik.If you live in the West you should have a little fear. >>I've said it before: I'm not an anarchist,<< You made that crystal.Do you have an opinion on the subject line? >>I'm a pragmatic-realist libertarian.<< In the yank context thats CALC right? >>I defy any of you to cite one single solitary thing I've posted that indicates otherwise. I scored 100% liberatrian << Professor rat notes you may be salvageable. >>on both axes of the Nolan Chart, just like a lot of people here--and in fact went out of my way to attend the 2000 convention in Anaheim.<< Did you miss the straw poll we had here recently? Libertarians are on the nose.Salvageable but suss. >>Unlike a lot of people here, I also choose to put my money where my mouth is in terms of the choices I make about my field of work and living arrangements (see the archives.) As I've said, all the shitey whinging << Whinging shite is proffered useage U slag. >>n the world about losing your freedom won't change a thing unless you put down the snacky cakes, get off the fucking couch and make something happen. << 2 post's from me and thousands of dollars is wasted trying to repress me.Its bloody ergonomic activism,Twit. >>You folks do it your way, I'll do it mine. Some people around here need to get a better sense of perspective. << Getting paranoid are "we"? >>And as far as I can see it, my only "great sins"<< Great sins? WTF is this the fucking vatican? >>have been: 1) not buying into the conventional wisdom that working for the government means you are by definition a retarded donut-chomping incompetent<< If they aren't when they start... >>(unless you happen to be a fellow cypherpunk selling your services and crypto to the USG, which is peachy); << Not to me.I've been attacking Peter Trei.All Govt's are the kiss of death. >>respecting intelligence and cunning wherever it's to be found;<< Except on this list? I can give you cunning honey,just spread your legs and say Ah! >>2) Having independent judgement; << To much brownnosing of some grey geniui at the NSA but no substance,sorry,no cigar. >>demonstrating a failure to know my place in the pecking order;<< Thats no biggie. >>not being throughly familiar with all the clique literature<< Some comics and you can wing it.(with google) >>before I came here (reading Applied Cryptography and every single work of Ayn Rand, Stirner and Nietzsche cover-to-cover beforehand somehow doesn't count); Stirner's all right but if you read him cover to cover I think your wasting your time.Lets start a union of egoists. >>eschewing the mandatory ass-kissing of the Resident Alpha Baboon and attendants;<< As a union special project we could APster all alpha males we don't like.2$ on May.If you read Scneir then do you have an opinion on the subject line?(...encrypt the 2.5 mill reward for agent anthrax?) >>3) Being a woman; not being old. (In which case it would be permissible to give up, retire, watch endless hours of TV, converse with Usenet imbeciles on the most banal bullshit imaginable and hit the snackycakes like there's no tomorrow.)<< Ageist old darling,careful.Check out MJ.At the age of 83, Mother Jones was convicted by a military court of conspiring to commit murder & was sentenced to 20 years in prison. The event created such a furor that the U.S. Senate form a committee to look into conditions in the West Virginia coalfields. http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/majones.html http://www.meetingground.org/loavfish/lf599/motherjones.htm http://www.dol.gov/dol/oasam/public/programs/laborhall/mj.htm http://www.execpc.com/~shepler/mojo.html >>I have three words for you: Fuck. That. Shit. << Id luv to fuck you in the ass.Have you seen Tampa tushy fest 1? >>Love me or hate me, I've made this forum a more interesting place for my having >>While I'm at it, I must say that if or when anarchy comes to the West, it will be infinitely just that parasitical lunatics who've sponged welfare and public housing for the past thirty years will starve and die in the streets. << I was rockclimbing and then treeclimbing a lot,working the black seam,I could surprise you but you might be right,I'm bored with life. >>The fact that so many intelligent people are forced to waste even five minutes of their time on people like mattd is a capital crime. << The most intelligent people make the most spectacular mistakes,that's entertainment. >>100% Darwinian justice.<< I had a vasectomy 20 years ago,stop worrying. >>But I suppose that since lunatics cant help themselves about what they say or do, << Hail to the chimp! >>Aristotle was right in s
Libraries Cull Collections to Make Feds Happy
Here's an interesting little story. The Feds are rethinking the idea of continuing to make documents which detail information about vulnerable infrastructure available to the public. Indeed, many such documents are no longer on government Web pages. But what to do about the documents already out there? No problemo. :) The Feds recently sent out a letter to 1300 libraries across the country, asking them to destroy a particular document about water supplies. The libraries cheerfully complied. One wonders if the libraries would have rolled over so easily had the government requested the destruction of "The Turner Diaries," "Why Buildings Fall Down," or "Heather Has Two Mommies." Maybe we need a program to certify people as "Trusted Citizens" in order to enable their access to forbidden technologies like chemistry and encryption. - CASTLETON, Vt. -- Under federal orders, two Vermont schools destroyed copies of a document about water supplies that had raised security concerns after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The University of Vermont and Castleton College got letters last fall from the U.S. Government Printing Office instructing them to destroy the little-known document, "Source Area Characteristics of Large Public Surface Water Supplies." "It's pretty unusual, really," said Ruth Parlin, Castleton's library director. "I've never really heard of the government asking libraries to destroy something that's already been made available." The letter was sent to all 1,300 libraries that serve as federal depositories across the country. In Vermont, only Castleton and the University of Vermont had the document. Both stored it on a CD-ROM. "We had someone fold it and it shattered," said Nancy Luzer, who is in charge of government documents at Castleton's library. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
RE: Cruel and unusual punishment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aimee wrote: >You are the one that seeks to solve a political issue at the point of the >sword. That's war, not a Lincoln-Douglas debate. I believe my Gen. Paine is >more qualified to speak to the issue. I think between Thomas Schelling's "Strategy of Conflict" and Herman Kahn's "On Thermonuclear War" you can find pretty much everything you need to know. I'll bet both of you would find a lot to enjoy in them. "They seemed so very cautious and correct, these deadly words. Soft, quiet voices purring courteous, grave, exactly measured phrases in large peaceful rooms..." Powerful stuff. ~Faustine. *** He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. - --Thomas Paine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBPGm1vfg5Tuca7bfvEQKySgCg4QDE602KIUdi0jRGeF9gFFRZyA8An32m YW1MZj8SXhyBjgt/MA3zLs7q =kSVJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Turner: 9-11 Was Act of Desperation (washingtonpost.com)
"Americans lack an understanding of a willingness to die for one's country." That's not true of all Americans...but probaby a vast majority... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63701-2002Feb12.html -- -- James Choate - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ssz.com
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Re: Will the Govt encrypt the 2.5 mill reward for agent anthrax?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mattd wrote: >We all know USGovt. slime infest this >site,PJ,Maurice+Faustine and >Aimee,the CointelPRO hoes. I've never received a paycheck from the government in my life, you stupid son of a bitch. If someone far more intelligent and enterprising than you took it into his head to publish my 1040s for the past 10 years right here, I'd have absolutely nothing to fear on that account. I've said it before: I'm not an anarchist, I'm a pragmatic-realist libertarian. I defy any of you to cite one single solitary thing I've posted that indicates otherwise. I scored 100% liberatrian on both axes of the Nolan Chart, just like a lot of people here--and in fact went out of my way to attend the 2000 convention in Anaheim. Unlike a lot of people here, I also choose to put my money where my mouth is in terms of the choices I make about my field of work and living arrangements (see the archives.) As I've said, all the shitey whinging in the world about losing your freedom won't change a thing unless you put down the snacky cakes, get off the fucking couch and make something happen. You folks do it your way, I'll do it mine. Some people around here need to get a better sense of perspective. And as far as I can see it, my only "great sins" have been: 1) not buying into the conventional wisdom that working for the government means you are by definition a retarded donut-chomping incompetent (unless you happen to be a fellow cypherpunk selling your services and crypto to the USG, which is peachy); respecting intelligence and cunning wherever it's to be found; 2) Having independent judgement; demonstrating a failure to know my place in the pecking order; not being throughly familiar with all the clique literature before I came here (reading Applied Cryptography and every single work of Ayn Rand, Stirner and Nietzsche cover-to-cover beforehand somehow doesn't count); eschewing the mandatory ass-kissing of the Resident Alpha Baboon and attendants; 3) Being a woman; not being old. (In which case it would be permissible to give up, retire, watch endless hours of TV, converse with Usenet imbeciles on the most banal bullshit imaginable and hit the snackycakes like there's no tomorrow.) I have three words for you: Fuck. That. Shit. Love me or hate me, I've made this forum a more interesting place for my having contributed to it. Last week, I re-read my posts from the last few months and came to the conclusion I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of content. If I were someone else, I'd look forward to reading my posts. Narcississtic as hell perhaps, but in the end the only thing that really matters. If you don't get some entertainment out of reading me, for god's sake filter me and shut up about it. When I get too bored, I'm gone. Schopenhauer once said you can always tell your true feelings about someone by your reaction to seeing an unexpected letter from them on your doorstep. Ask yourself: what was your gut response to seeing "Faustine" in your inbox again? Tell the truth now, to yourself if no one else. If it was anything other than sheer indifference, I won. While I'm at it, I must say that if or when anarchy comes to the West, it will be infinitely just that parasitical lunatics who've sponged welfare and public housing for the past thirty years will starve and die in the streets. The fact that so many intelligent people are forced to waste even five minutes of their time on people like mattd is a capital crime. 100% Darwinian justice. But I suppose that since lunatics cant help themselves about what they say or do, Aristotle was right in saying there's no more reason to be angry at them than you would be an animal. Given that, matt, do feel free to issue empty death threats and make up whatever vile shit you please about me till you're blue in the face. Nobody's going to be hurt by it besides you in the long run. I just felt like setting things straight for the people here who are genuinely worth talking to. What a shame you and your kind have driven so many of them away. One more thing: the sooner you dig your own grave the better. Keep up the good work. Knock yourself out. ~Faustine. *** Our sense of revenge is as exact as our mathematical faculty, and until both terms of the equations are satisfied we can not get over the sense of something left undone. -- Inazo Nitobe, Bushido -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBPGmobvg5Tuca7bfvEQJrVQCg0LZ6BbMcR2I/ibo83UZfH/bb/qgAn13T 8hMDfnP+sFMhvfuGF8dUN3ie =NQoY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: FC: Congress weighs life imprisonment for some computer intrusions
Quoting Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from politech: > Text of the Cyber Security Enhancement Act: > http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3482: > > Cybercast of the hearing, at 4 pm ET today: > http://www.house.gov/judiciary/schedule.htm > > --- > > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,50363,00.html > >Cybercrime Bill Ups the Ante >By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >2:00 a.m. Feb. 12, 2002 PST > >WASHINGTON -- Some forms of illegal hacking would be punished by life >imprisonment under a proposal that Congress will debate on Tuesday. Unless of course it is destructive hacking perpetrated by duly authorised thugs of the administration, of course. The latitiude given to groups like the CIA to commit offenses against just about anyone if it, say, helps backstop an `officially sanctioned' covert op should indicate the precise worth of such legislation. Regards, Steve -- Don't nobody pay no mind to dis po' gamma.
SafeWeb's anonymous-surfing technology is not that safe
The Martin-Schulman paper: http://www.cs.bu.edu/techreports/pdf/2002-003-deanonymizing-safeweb.pdf PrivSec's free SafeWeb-licensed service: (username: demo, password: secure) http://www.privasec.com/regusers/demolaunch.htm --- http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,50371,00.html SafeWeb's Holes Contradict Claims By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 12:35 p.m. Feb. 12, 2002 PST WASHINGTON -- SafeWeb's anonymous-surfing technology turns out not to be very safe after all. A pair of researchers has unearthed flaws in the CIA-funded product that contradict the company's claims of "complete privacy" and reveal the supposedly confidential information of customers. Founded in April 2000, SafeWeb marketed an advertising-supported service said to allow users to browse the Web anonymously. In interviews, SafeWeb CEO Jon Chun boasted that the technology had been "through the rigors of the CIA's stringent review process, which far exceeds those of the ordinary enterprise client." Citing the economic downturn, SafeWeb abandoned the free service in November 2001. It has licensed its anonymizing technology to another company, PrivaSec, which currently offers the service for free and plans to charge for it soon. In a paper (PDF) released on Tuesday, David Martin, a Boston University computer scientist, and Andrew Schulman of the Privacy Foundation say that SafeWeb's assertions were more hopeful than true. They say, and SafeWeb has acknowledged, that flaws in the company's architecture allow a website to use JavaScript to obtain the concealed Internet address of the visitor. Because of SafeWeb's centralized technology, that page can also download a browser's cookies and obtain copies of subsequent Web pages visited during that session. [...] - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - - End forwarded message -
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RE: Cruel and unusual punishment
> Mr. Soze: > This is not a people's war. If anything its a war against > democracy and an attempt to discipline elected officials into > obeying their sworn oaths. You know, the ones they rarely obey > and are almost never called to account. It would be a people's war, and it would have the opposite effect of what you envision, and endear leaders to the populace. The reprisal is the same. If you can't bring the actors to account, you will punish those that harbor or aid. If not that, hostages. The same theme plays out today in new ways. Russia just passed legislation holding 'knowing' family members responsible. > Paine wrote on this extensively. > > > >Paine? > > Thomas Paine You are the one that seeks to solve a political issue at the point of the sword. That's war, not a Lincoln-Douglas debate. I believe my Gen. Paine is more qualified to speak to the issue. Assassination: the choice of an incompetent generation. AP is not without historic precedent. A big one. It was a waste of bucks, bodies and bullets. Assassination has the effect of empowering that which you oppose, solidifying their position, hardening your target, undermining your moral position, identifying "something," and rendering "something" vulnerable to spirals of reprisal that you cannot withstand. Only in rare circumstances would you want to kill the "leader" of anything. The leader you know is better than one you don't. New enemies mean new plans. You should never let anybody kill your enemies, after you work so hard to make people hate them. The people will follow somebody they love, and you don't kill the enemy leader until that's you. Your choice of tactics mirrors your capability. Assassination is somebody flashing before they flesh. If you were an insurgent, in some far-off country, petitioning for my support against a mutual evil -- and I had to support somebody -- you just got crossed off my list of contenders. That's ESPECIALLY if my objective was destabilization and general havoc. Aside from being sickassassination is stupid on the tactical merits alone. Works in a narrow set of circumstances, and you don't have it. But it is dumb for the most ancient of reasons: "Deny your enemy power in the afterlife." There are a thousand ways to beat a live enemy, but zero ways to beat a dead one. In our human past, Tribe A would go kill a member of Tribe B. Tribe B when then attack and fight for a dead man, sometimes calling his name for generations. To our ancestors, that was puzzling. IMO, they concluded there was a enemy afterlife. From then on, many mutilated the bodies of their enemies. The most powerful enemies -- DEAD MEN. Men will fight in their names for centuries. They usually died in battle. For some cultures, immortality remains associated with death in battle, and we still want to "die whole" in body and soul. Our ancestors were buried with weapons. IMO, it wasn't a sentimental gesture. A warrior fought for his tribe -- even in death. There are still "ancestor insults" in many cultures. War was a contest between living wills, but also dead ones. In our exchange, you "called on the spirit" of Thomas Paine. I had to go get another dead guy to meet your dead guy. Somebody even pointed out that my General Paine dead guy was "spiritually polluted," and inferred that your dead guy was better than my dead guy. Things really haven't changed much. Part of the reason assassination is frowned upon, has it's roots here. You must meet the enemy in battle and beat him there. To kill him is not enough. You fight more than an enemy body, you fight the demon that is the soul of the man. (We let Stalin die whole. We will fight him again. He's not dead.) Old soldiers never die. Some men fight forever. Men that died "whole," perhaps even killed, but not beaten. Your ancestors knew this, so do you. In our current conflict, we should forget what we've learned, and do what we know. If I got to pick warriors, I would go to battle and throw men at a line. The ones that want to run away -- the ones that hang towards the back -- my guys. America is a dueling culture in a savage land. ~Aimee
Re: Sheeple Land With Hands on Heads
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Forgive me for being absurd, but is there a limit to the number > of copilots a plane can have? I mean, if the pilot and the first > three co-pilots happened to die of old age simultaneously, > it'd make sense to have a fourth copilot as a back-up, > right? Right, except that the co-pilot isn't just someone who could be the co-pilot, he's the person acting as the co-pilot. Just as there can only be one person flying pilot-in-command, there's only one person who can fly right seat, and the person actually doing so is the co-pilot. If that co-pilot died and someone else took over, that person would then be the co-pilot. Everyone else is just a passenger, despite the fact that some of them may have a pilot's license. -- Riad Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIT VI-2/A 2002
Re: Sheeple Land With Hands on Heads
On 12 Feb 2002, at 13:20, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, if the "passengers" were on the books as part-time employees then more > > than 10 could fly and still be classed as Part 135? Can you spell employee > > owned airline? > > I'm not sure about this, but I think that in this context "passenger" > is used in the general aviation sense---anyone who is not the pilot in > command is a passenger. In effect, there can't be more than 10 people > on the plane in total. > > Hopefully, I'm wrong about this. If I am, however, I suspect that the > only other person on the plane who wouldn't count towards this total > would be the co-pilot. > > Forgive me for being absurd, but is there a limit to the number of copilots a plane can have? I mean, if the pilot and the first three co-pilots happened to die of old age simultaneously, it'd make sense to have a fourth copilot as a back-up, right? George
Re: Tivo: Super Britney Replays Ruled
At 16:58 -0800 2002/02/11, Tim May wrote: >No, they don't care about the receiver's location. Yes they do. They care when it comes to determining what local market you're in for the purposes of providing local stations. >Data point: My DirecTV receiver was hooked up without a telephone >hookup for almost 6 years with no issues or questions. Then you got lucky. Lots of people are asked/required to make a phone call for various reasons. Many DTV features require a phone connection. This is not speculation. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408.519.9509 0x19D3BAF5, 5CCF 2251 5B45 0ABA B91D AD81 4A60 3401 19D3 BAF5
Re: Man Charged With Molesting Boys (washingtonpost.com)
Who are you? Why are we here? Where are we? I seem to remember something oh look, a pretty tree! -- Greg (maybe) On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:01:09AM -0500, Sunder wrote: > > I've had this really truly great idea about how to solve all of the > world's problems about twenty years ago, but unfortunately I don't > remember it. It would have made be a trillionaire... oh > well... meanwhile I'll just post utter nonsense to this mailing list > because that's the example you guys are giving. > > > Who gives a flying fuck about what you don't remember? > > --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- > + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ > \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ > <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ > /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ > + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Marcel Popescu wrote: > > > From: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Which makes a nice segue into a movie (I don't remember the name, sorry) > > > that is due out this year. The premise is that the LEA's begin to follow > > > everyone and they run a model on their behaviour. If the model says they > > > will commit a crime they are arrested and locked away. If anyone has more > > > details (like the title)... > > > > I've read a book, more than ten years ago, based on that idea. > > Unfortunately, that's about everything that I remember... > > > > Mark > >
Re: Man Charged With Molesting Boys (washingtonpost.com)
I've had this really truly great idea about how to solve all of the world's problems about twenty years ago, but unfortunately I don't remember it. It would have made be a trillionaire... oh well... meanwhile I'll just post utter nonsense to this mailing list because that's the example you guys are giving. Who gives a flying fuck about what you don't remember? --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Marcel Popescu wrote: > From: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Which makes a nice segue into a movie (I don't remember the name, sorry) > > that is due out this year. The premise is that the LEA's begin to follow > > everyone and they run a model on their behaviour. If the model says they > > will commit a crime they are arrested and locked away. If anyone has more > > details (like the title)... > > I've read a book, more than ten years ago, based on that idea. > Unfortunately, that's about everything that I remember... > > Mark >
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green activist calls self 'terrorist'
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college profs are spies when embassy is full
"Case officers often are sent to staff colleges instead of foreign posts, he [former CIA spook Robert Baer] said, http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020212-517408.htm
The great plane robbery
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[Reformatted] CALEA OPERATIONS -commercial products
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Re: Sheeple Land With Hands on Heads
"AARG! Anonymous" wrote: > > Eric Cordian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Richard Bizarro, 59, could get up to 20 years in prison on charges of > > interfering with a flight crew. > > Get out the white kryptonite! > > Do you think he was traveling with Bizarro-Lois? Was Lex on the plane, > too? :-) And yet, despite all this security, and despite all the surveillance, the airlines are still about as secure as a paper bag. Last week, at Manchester airport in the UK, some journalists walked onto a plane with replica guns and fake bombs. No-one noticed. Yesterday, at Heathrow Airport near London, a couple of enterprising young men drove off with 6.5 million dollars US in used notes that were on their way from Bahrain to New York. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1815000/1815316.stm). It raises nagging questions like: - why would a portable cargo of that value ever be in the sole charge of one driver, completely out of sight of anyone ELSE (never mind the security guards) - why would anyone with enough state-licensed legitimacy to send the money, send it in that form? Why not just get the local bank to dispose of the notes (I'm sure the US embassy would send a man with a gun round to make sure they all got burned) and wire the money? Never mind the Internet - these guys haven't even caught up with Morse yet. - why would anyone sending 6 million dollars not employ their own security? Unless of course they did, and they were watching all the time, and the thieves are about to get a very nasty surprise when the original owners turn up to collect the cash to put on the mantlepiece next to their nice big insurance payouts. I imagine that the airport staff are going to get visits from some extremely inquisitive loss adjusters.
[Reformatted] DNA databasing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > excerpted from > >http://latimes.com/news/local/la-10617feb11.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dcalifornia > > Refusal to give a DNA sample is a misdemeanor, a meaningless > punishment to those locked up for years. And Corrections Department > rules forbid the use of force in taking the samples without a court > order > > Corrections Department spokeswoman Terry Thornton said there are 800 > state inmates who won't give samples, along with the roughly 600 > people on death row who have been shielded from the DNA requirements > by a lawsuit. > > Harmon said he believes the number of uncooperative inmates is much > higher, and he faults the Corrections Department for its limits on the > use of force. "Strap 'em down," he said. > > A proposal to let corrections officers resort to force without a > court order to get DNA samples was recently introduced in the state > Legislature. > > The force issue touches on civil liberties questions that hover over > the entire concept of offender DNA databanks. > > "There is a certain specter of Nazi Germany," said Scott Ciment, > legislative advocate for California Attorneys for Criminal Justice, a > private criminal defense bar. > > Advocates went to court several years ago to stop the sampling of > eight condemned female prisoners, arguing that the testing violated > their constitutional rights. A court order was issued barring the > sampling, though for procedural rather than constitutional reasons. > The state is appealing the injunction, which has effectively prevented > sampling of all death row inmates. > > Ciment's organization opposed the recent addition of four > offenses--residential burglary, residential robbery, arson and > carjacking--to the nine sex and violent crimes requiring DNA samples. > > Ciment also says it would be unwise to make it easier for prison > guards to use force. > > DNA profiling can be used to prove innocence as well as guilt, and > defense and civil liberties groups concede that the databanks are > helpful to law enforcement. But they worry that the compilation of > genetic material from entire classes of people pushes society in a > dangerous direction. > > "It's appropriate that law enforcement have it as a tool," said > Elizabeth Schroeder, associate director of the American Civil > Liberties Union of Southern California. "But it has to be limited so > that we don't wind up as a national DNA databank--and all of us wind > up as a suspect." > > Although the DNA samples are collected solely for identification > purposes, they contain all manner of genetic information about not > only the inmates but also their blood relatives.
Re: Heavenly Weenies
Michael Motyka wrote: > Religion and history have very little to do with the religion of Bush or > Ashcroft ( or Falwell, or Robertson, or Reed ). Theirs is a rhetorical > religion, an emotional distillation of earlier systems that has even > less to do with spiritual thought than its founding beverage. They > attempt, sadly with a fair degree of success, to administer this drug > and tap into a few very fundamental human behaviors with the express > purpose of aquiring and exercising power. Any discussion of religion or > history with those fascists is just falling for their diversion. While > everyone goes chasing after the firetrucks those bastards are robbing > the bank. The term 'bank' applies literally and figuratively. Funny, > isn't it, how they are able to rob people of liberty and cash? Makes me > vomit just to think of them. Excuse me, rethhh@hbfiobd#nbg$msopbm. Right on. > Is 'pax vomitus' proper latin? No, but "Pax Vomitoria" might mean "The Silence of the Emergency Exits" :-) Ken
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Re: Sheeple Land With Hands on Heads
Ah, but how long would it take the congresscritters to write a law to differentiate between that and "legitimate" business travel? By the number of passengers on a plane, if nothing else, or the purpose of the "charter." Congresscritters are quite good at that kind of thing. I'd give 'em about two weeks. -Declan On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 11:16:29PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote: > I've been thing about this the past few days. From what I've read the > executive jets are not required to adhere to the same restrictions as the > public flights, partly because they are not public carriers. Shared exec > jet services allow a lower buy-in than sole use at a fixed monthly rate > plus a premium to be paid every time you use a plane. What if a scheduled > airline was formed that required all passengers to be part owners, just > like a shared exec jet (so they are not public carriers), plus a > competitive fare each time you use one of your planes? Might it be > possible to bypass all that crap by leaving from the exec terminal? > > steve
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APPEAL WSJ reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped on January 23. He still hasn't been found. If you have any information, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], or voice your concern at Free Daniel Pearl club. http://www.timesofindia.com/ US forces see action with 60 yo...Abdul Rauf, 60, the police chief in Oruzgan, said he was beaten, kicked until his ribs cracked and punched by American soldiers when they stormed the district headquarters on the night of January 23-24 and took him and his men prisoner. An American officer apologised to him when he was released, he said, asking forgiveness and saying their capture had been a mistake. "I can never forgive them," Rauf told the The New York Times as he lay on cushions at his home, still clearly suffering from his ordeal. "Why did they bomb us? Why did they do this?"
RSA: SEC investigating accounting* and "certain trading in the company's securities"Dump RSA?
I'm hoping that Microsoft's the next Enron but Ill settle for RSA. Their accountants had to be dragged kicking and screaming to sign a new industry agreement.They were the last of the big 6 to sign and their CEO was on the Leherer report bitching about all the scrutiny of their incestuous,slimy selves. Deloitte & Touche,when Andersons otherwise engaged. RSA may soon be investigated by the UN's human rights commission after the shady deals with the Chinese police state become public.The sort of company that hires sooty mould like peter Trei is capable of anything. "Still in this country today there are laws that outlaw oral sex and anal sex between husband and wife."
Re: My god has a bigger dick than Ashcroft's god
>>Somebody needs a lesson in religion and history. Ashcroft should start with the Childrens Crusade... << And a (pretzel eating) child shall lead them. Ashcroft needs assassinating,a crash course in the "right to life." "Imagine for a moment that as ordinary citizens were watching the evening news, they see an act by a government employee or officeholder that they feel violates their rights, abuses the public's trust, or misuses the powers that they feel should be limited. A person whose actions are so abusive or improper that the citizenry shouldn't have to tolerate it. What if they could go to their computers, type in the miscreant's name, and select a dollar amount: The amount they, themselves, would be willing to pay to anyone who "predicts" that officeholder's death. That donation would be sent, encrypted and anonymously, to a central registry organization, and be totaled, with the total amount available within seconds to any interested individual. If only 0.1% of the population, or one person in a thousand, was willing to pay $1 to see some government slimeball dead, that would be, in effect, a $250,000 bounty on his head." Jim Bell.The real deal.
Will the Govt encrypt the 2.5 mill reward for agent anthrax?
We all know USGovt. slime infest this site,PJ,Maurice+Faustine and Aimee,the CointelPRO hoes.There's probably others Will the Govt. encrypt the 2.5 mill reward for agent anthrax? And if not,why not? You want some big *threat* to justify all your lurks and perks? Be careful what you wish for. "Surrounded by Moslem maniacs on one side and Christian maniacs on the other, the wise Lord Hassan [al-Sabbah] preserved his people and his cult by bringing the art of assassination to aesthetic perfection. With just a few daggers strategically placed in exactly the right throats, he found Wisdom's alternative to war, and preserved the peoples by killing their leaders. Truly, his was a most exemplary life of grandmotherly kindness." Anarchy Al Ackbar!
Re: Cruel and unusual punishment
>>> AP is certainly no tool "for the people." The concept is closest to Mao's > "fundamental" force or primitive warfare. But AP is based on cowardice, not > courage. Division, instead of unity. Criminality, rather than cause. Enmity, > not education. etc. It's "the Greece mistake" no? -- a warning to anybody > that seeks to play on criminal mentality to achieve a social or political > change? I must say that I prefer this any day to "let's arrest Jim Bell". It doesn't mean that I agree with it, but at least there's an attempt to reason instead of mere force. Not that force doesn't have its advantages :) Mark << Attempt to reason,Que? and when did Jim get out?
Re: Man Charged With Molesting Boys (washingtonpost.com)
Dearest Choate, The title you're looking for is "Minority Report". The trailer seems good, and indicates potential despite the fact that it's a Spielberg movie starring Tom Cruise. It's yet another movie based on a Phillip K. Dick story, which means it will have little resemblance to the story at all. -Drew At 03:02 AM Tuesday 2/12/2002, Marcel Popescu wrote: >From: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Which makes a nice segue into a movie (I don't remember the name, sorry) > > that is due out this year. The premise is that the LEA's begin to follow > > everyone and they run a model on their behaviour. If the model says they > > will commit a crime they are arrested and locked away. If anyone has more > > details (like the title)... > >I've read a book, more than ten years ago, based on that idea. >Unfortunately, that's about everything that I remember... > >Mark
Wilful Disobedience.
http://www.ainfos.ca/ NEW! Willful Disobedience Vol. 2, No. 12: http://www.geocities.com/kk_abacus/vbutterfly.html A FEW WORDS: Developing Relationships of Affinity FROM PROLETARIAN TO INDIVIDUAL: Toward an Anarchist Understanding of Class AGAINST THE LOGIC OF SUBMISSION: The Subversion of Existence AN OPEN LETTER TO THOSE INVOLVED IN THE BLACK BLOC ANTI-MILITARISM AND SOCIAL INSURRECTION REBELLION IN ARGENTINA OF HOLY AND DEMOCRATIC INQUISITIONS WHAT IS SEEN THROUGH A KEYHOLE CHILDREN'S THOUGHTS by Massimo Passamani ITALIAN ANARCHIST KILLED IN PRISON SEPTEMBER 11: What the Masters Want to Teach Us Shorts My Perspectives http://www.geocities.com/kk_abacus/vbutterfly.html Comments on KKA, Hot Tide, Willful Disobedience, or anarchy in general can be left at this ezboards site: http://pub47.ezboard.com/banarchykka
KaZaA 1.5 installing APster client,also Freenet,Wildnet,Airnet and Sewernet.
New KaZaA downloads upgrade Kate Mackenzie FEBRUARY 12, 2002 THE Australian company that bought popular file-sharing software KaZaA has launched the first new version of the program since it made the purchase. Sharman Networks made the announcement via a Californian company today. It said KaZaA 1.5 allowed users to recommend media files to other users, had a faster search function and loaded quicker than earlier versions. Sharman Networks bought KaZaA from Dutch company Consumer Empowerment DV, which developed the FastTrack technology used in other file sharing programs Morpheus and Grokster. Consumer Empowerment and two US companies, which own Morpheus and Grokster, became the subject of a legal claim by the Recording Industry Association of America and the Motion Picture Association last October. Although little information about Sharman Networks has been made available, its chief executive Nikki Hemming also headed the failed Sega World theme park in Sydney's Darling Harbour. "The demand for the KaZaA Media Desktop continues to exceed our expectations with close to 1.5 million downloads a week," Ms Hemming said in the statement.
Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)
From: "Steve Schear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It will be > interesting to see whether our notion of inalienable (not to mention those > of the founders) is still a zeitgeist in a hundred years of so or whether > self-governance was just a failed experiment. The idea of "experiments" is socialistic in nature; capitalism is based on principles. Speaking of which - has anyone here read Hoppe's "Theory of Socialism and Capitalism"? (Available online at http://www.mises.org/etexts/Soc&Cap.pdf) More to the point, does anyone know of any *counter-arguments* ? (I find it extraordinary compelling, and I believe that, since not everyone is capitalist, there might be some hidden flaw in it. Or maybe they just haven't read it. ) Mark
Re: Man Charged With Molesting Boys (washingtonpost.com)
At 12:02 PM 2002-02-12, you wrote: >From: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Which makes a nice segue into a movie (I don't remember the name, sorry) > > that is due out this year. The premise is that the LEA's begin to follow > > everyone and they run a model on their behaviour. If the model says they > > will commit a crime they are arrested and locked away. If anyone has more > > details (like the title)... > >I've read a book, more than ten years ago, based on that idea. >Unfortunately, that's about everything that I remember... The movie is "Minority Report" (not sure if it's been released yet): http://us.imdb.com/Details?0181689 It's based on a short story by Philip K. Dick, like so many other excellent scifi movies (Total Recall, Blade Runner, Screamers). Also coming up is Gary Fleder's version of PKD's Impostor: http://us.imdb.com/Details?0160399 A! == anton l. raath internet development & design = Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake. <<>> >>> Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower <<< =
Hail to the Chimp!
Mr Bush has never seen the country's favourite comedy Sex and the City, and rates Cats as modern theatre at its finest. Although Mr Bush wasn't familiar with DiCaprio's role in Titanic, the world's highest-grossing film, he knew the Austin Powers movies inside out. Mr Bush often lifted his pinkie to the corner of his mouth to mimic the Dr Evil character in the Powers flicks, according to the author. The son of the 41st US President admitted to reporters that martial arts expert Chuck Norris was his favourite film actor. "When your in Texas look behind you...cos thats where the monkee's gonna be." Have Mercy,Kill the VICE president.
Re: Cruel and unusual punishment
From: "Aimee Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The amateurs perhaps, but not the pros. Have you heard of the > > Ninja? > > How did they fare against Chiang and Mao? Pretty well. Chiang and Mao are dead :) > AP is certainly no tool "for the people." The concept is closest to Mao's > "fundamental" force or primitive warfare. But AP is based on cowardice, not > courage. Division, instead of unity. Criminality, rather than cause. Enmity, > not education. etc. It's "the Greece mistake" no? -- a warning to anybody > that seeks to play on criminal mentality to achieve a social or political > change? I must say that I prefer this any day to "let's arrest Jim Bell". It doesn't mean that I agree with it, but at least there's an attempt to reason instead of mere force. Not that force doesn't have its advantages :) Mark
Re: Man Charged With Molesting Boys (washingtonpost.com)
From: "Jim Choate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Which makes a nice segue into a movie (I don't remember the name, sorry) > that is due out this year. The premise is that the LEA's begin to follow > everyone and they run a model on their behaviour. If the model says they > will commit a crime they are arrested and locked away. If anyone has more > details (like the title)... I've read a book, more than ten years ago, based on that idea. Unfortunately, that's about everything that I remember... Mark
ATTN peter Trei,RSA scumbag.DUMP RSA!
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,3756908%255E2703,00.html Chinese torture allegations From The Times February 12, 2002 A SENIOR official in China's National Security Ministry has smuggled documents to the West that disclose orders to police chiefs to torture women members of Christian churches as part of a crackdown on religious groups. Jubilee Campaign, a British human rights group, has obtained evidence of the women being abused with electric cattle prods, sexually assaulted and beaten into falsely confessing they were raped by their religious pastors. Death sentences have been passed on several leading Christians in recent months, including a woman who is a member of the South China Church tried in secret in December. The official who leaked the documents is in hiding, fearing for his life. The dossier has been passed to the White House before US President George W. Bush's visit to China this month. Mr Bush has asked to be briefed about the treatment of Christian groups, and human rights groups hope this evidence will persuade him to take tougher action against Beijing. The testimony of these victims, smuggled out of prison at the end of last year, will embarrass Chinese officials who claim they have stopped such brutal tactics after being included in the World Trade Organisation and securing the Olympic Games for Beijing. One woman prisoner, Yang Tongi, signed her testimony with a bloody fingerprint. She says she was seized from a bus and forced to kneel for hours in a prison cell before her interrogation began. She was handcuffed and her captors boasted as they beat her: "We can kill you without causing any problems." She described watching a friend so badly beaten that her fingers were bent out of position and she could not straighten her legs. Zhang Hongjuan, 20, said guards at the Zhong Xiang detention centre shackled her hand and foot and tortured her with an electric prod. "They forcefully unbuttoned my shirt and touched every spot on my chest with the electric club. I yelled at the top of my voice but they moved the club into my mouth to stop me from crying." Others were forced to endure medical examinations as police sought proof they had had sex with their pastor. Tongjin Li said in the same jail she was threatened with sexual assault and a guard jeered: "This is not considered as raping but just coping with people like you." The woman, who is scarred for life, said the attack on her continued for more than 15 hours and stopped only when she revealed a telephone number of a fellow Christian. The Jubilee Campaign has shown The Times some of the original leaked documents from the Ministry of Public Security. They order a ban on a variety of "cults" which they consider a "crawling danger to domestic security and defence". They identify "cults" as any group which has refused to register with the Government and include Catholic and Protestant missions. The documents include a speech by Sun Jianxian, a leading security official, telling his officers to intensify the crackdown which they must keep hidden from "hostile Western powers hastening to continue their strategies of 'westernising' our country". About 129 people have been killed for their religious activities and another 208 crippled by torture.
Illegal aussi Govt spying on Union
http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=22282&group=webcast Comment by professor rat. Also http://theage.com.au/news/feedback.html killthepresident.com
Yankee repression roundup.
Natnl. Solidarity for Craig Rosebraugh (english) by rise 10:05pm Mon Feb 11 '02 On Feb 12th, former ELF spokesperson, Craig Rosebraugh, will be forced to appear before a Congressional Subcommittee on 'Eco-terrorism'. More on http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=133523&group=webcast raisethefist.com mirror is expected shortly. Camp X-ray carries on bushido tradition of ww2 japs not notifying friends,relative,etc of kidnapee's. DEATH to AMERICA! KILL the PRESIDENT!
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The Globalizer Who Came In From the Cold (fwd)
>>...I took away from my talks with the professor that the solution to world poverty and crisis is simple: remove the bloodsuckers. ...<<< Thanks to the new improved APster removing the bloodsuckers should be a cinch.Kill the president for starters. I like palast and regularly repost his stuff on indymedia and http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/ "Social unrest' he mentions was seen last year in PNG where 4-5 students were shot dead in anti-IMF peaceful protests.Carlo G was not the first anti-glob martyr.Speaking of martyr's I think that according to this... http://smog.net/curiosities/sabotage/ we should sacrifice one of our brave leading cypherpunk lights for the greater good.This would also advance APster as the final solution to the "democracy" problem.(my 2$) Kill the pestilence.pr. "Liberty without socialism is privilege,injustice;socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality."Mikhail Bakunin.