Re: Is xdm required?

1997-06-05 Thread Jesse Goldman


On 4 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've already got the damn thing installed.  I just don't want to be forced
 to activate it.  X works just fine without it.

Sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean by the statement that you don't
want to be forced to activate it? Do you mean you'd like for your machine
*not* to load xdm on startup? If that's the case, just comment out the
appropriate line in /etc/X11/config.

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gcc X: reprise

1997-06-05 Thread Obi

 I could guess, but there are quite a few possibilities. The error message
 you recieve during compilation would be helpful. What does it say?

Well, after untar the program I got an Imake file so I do a xmkmf -a and I get
this:

imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
make Makefiles
make: Nothing to be done for `Makefiles'.
make includes
make: Nothing to be done for `includes'.
make depend
gccmakedep  --   -I/usr/X11R6/include  -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE
-D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO--
bdfresize.c charresize.c

after I try with make and I get this:

gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -I/usr/X11R6/include  -Dlinux
-D__i386__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE
-DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c bdfresize.c -o bdfresize.o
gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -I/usr/X11R6/include  -Dlinux
-D__i386__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE 
-DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c charresize.c -o charresize.o
rm -f bdfresize
gcc -o bdfresize -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486  -L/usr/X11R6/lib
bdfresize.o charresize.o
charresize.o: In function `countup_score':
charresize.o(.text+0x779): undefined reference to `MIN'
charresize.o(.text+0x786): undefined reference to `MAX'
charresize.o(.text+0x792): undefined reference to `MIN'
charresize.o(.text+0x79e): undefined reference to `MAX'
make: *** [bdfresize] Error 1

I still believe that in the last command (gcc -o ...) some libraries (-l..)
are missing ...


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Re: Newbie

1997-06-05 Thread Sylvain Briole
Hello Rick,

 2. Any suggestions as to steps for getting X up and running?

xf86config
startx

Amicalement,

Sylvain.

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Re: Is xdm required?

1997-06-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 4 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wrote:
  Is it possible to upgrade to 1.3 without installing xdm?
 
 Dwarf writes: 
  Yes. Why do you ask?
 
 Because every X discussion I've seen here recently clearly presumes that
 xdm is being used, and because the last time I upgraded my 1.2 installation
 I was forced to create a dummy /etc/init.d/xdm to get the install to
 complete.
 
Well, that makes the issue clearer. You can't install X without also
installing xdm...it comes in xbase...but you are by no means forced to use
it. Startx for instance is also provided and is a perfectly good way to
start X. During the installation you will be asked if you want to boot
with xdm and in a second question you will be asked if xdm should be used
to start the xserver. If you answer no to both of these questions you will
NOT be forced to use xdm.

If this doesn't fix things for you, please feel free to ask more pointed
questions.

Luck,

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ftp only user account?

1997-06-05 Thread Joey Hess
How can I set up a user account that can only ftp in, and is restricted to
their home directory in a chroot environment?

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Re: Solution to irqtune problems

1997-06-05 Thread Curtis L. Daugaard
This solved the problem.  Thanks.

On 4 Jun Martin Bialasinski wrote

I have tracked down the cause of the problems which were reported about
irqtune.

Apparently hwtools does not contain the most recent version of irqtune.

Using irqtune 0.5 will solve your problems.

I have addressed the package maintainer about this.

Two solutions:

1. Wait for the new hwtools package.

2. Get the irqtune 0.5 from the website.
   You don't have to recompile, just copy irqtune_mod.o and irqtune
   from the tar to /sbin . Then change the invocation of
   irqtune in /etc/rc.boot/hwtools from
   irqtune
   to
   /sbin/irqtune

Regards,

Curt

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smail inexistent host

1997-06-05 Thread Obi

hi all,

I just installed Debian 1.3, and I used the suggested mailer, that is smail. 
It seems working fine until now, but for mail in which the hostname is wrong. 
Sometimes happens that I received mail to which I reply without even looking 
at the address. The problem is that smail kept the mail in the queue for 3 
days (maybe more?) without even tell me anything!! No errors, no nothing!
I just got them looking in the logfile!

How can I get my mail back with error in such a case?

I used the smailconfig script to configure it. I rely on a smart host to route 
my mail, and I received mail using popclient (I have a laptop ...).

If you need I can send the config files ...

graziano

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inetd.conf corruption

1997-06-05 Thread Carlo U. Segre
Hello All:

I recently upgraded some systems from 1.2 to 1.3 and I noticed that the
inetd.conf entry for smbd was missing along with the comments at the top
of the file.  This has happened to all of the machines upgraded over the
last few days.

Could anyone pinpoint the package which is giving this problem?

Is there any way to recover the proper inetd.conf (I know that a number of
packages modify this file)?

Thanks

Carlo


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SUMMARY: making 16bpp the default in X

1997-06-05 Thread Douglas L Stewart
The easiest thing to do is just to add this in your XF86Config in the
section for your video card:

   DefaultColorDepth 16

I wish xf86config had this as an option.

Here's an example:

Section Screen
Driver  svga
# Use Device Generic VGA for Standard VGA 320x200x256
#Device  Generic VGA
Device  Chips  Technologies CT65550
Monitor My Monitor
DefaultColorDepth 16 
Subsection Display
Depth   8
# Omit the Modes line for the Generic VGA device
Modes   800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
# Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

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neXtaw

1997-06-05 Thread BG Lim
I've installed neXtaw and the /etc/ld.so.conf is correctly configured. I'm
not a programmer myself, but I used ldd to check dynamic libraries.
However not all the programs used the new neXtaw. For example, xftp does
but xbmbrowser and xterm do not. They do if I do LD_PRELOAD before hand.

Also a lot of programs crash with neXtaw but not Xaw3d and Xaw. Is there a
way to individually configure each program to use a certain library
without using LD_PRELOAD. This is for configureing menus in Afterstep.

BG


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neXtaw

1997-06-05 Thread BG Lim
I've installed neXtaw and the /etc/ld.so.conf is correctly configured.
I'm
not a programmer myself, but I used ldd to check dynamic libraries.
However not all the programs used the new neXtaw. For example, xftp does
but xbmbrowser and xterm do not. They do if I do LD_PRELOAD before hand.

Also a lot of programs crash with neXtaw but not Xaw3d and Xaw. Is there
a
way to individually configure each program to use a certain library
without using LD_PRELOAD. This is for configureing menus in Afterstep.

BG


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trouble with mh

1997-06-05 Thread Ken Lauffenburger
Hello,

I normally use elm for my emailing needs, but I recently decided to
upgrade to mh and exmh.  I installed those packages and their dependencies
on my debian 1.3 system.  Everything seemed to install properly and looks
fine but I can't seem to send a message.  This is what happens:


To: ken
cc: 
Subject: Test number 4

This is a test of the mail system

--ken


What now? send
post: problem initializing server; [BHST] premature end-of-file on socket
send: message not delivered to anyone

What now? quit
whatnow: draft left on /home/ken/Mail/drafts/4
leisure:~ 
leisure:~ send -verbose -watch
Use /home/ken/Mail/drafts/4? y
 -- Posting for All Recipients --
post: problem initializing server; [BHST] premature end-of-file on socket
send: message not delivered to anyone


I normally use elm on top of smail and this works great.  The man page
indicates that mh uses the installed mail transport system (smail), but it
apparently uses it differntly than elm does.

Here are the versions of the installed packages:

leisure:~/Mail dpkg -l | grep smail
ii  smail   3.2-3  Electronic mail transport system.
leisure:~/Mail dpkg -l | grep mh
ii  exmh1.6.9-4An X user interface for MH mail.
ii  mh  6.8.4-13   A set of electronic mail handling 
programs.
ii  mh-papers   6.8.3-1The MH papers: A set of document 
on/about MH
leisure:~/Mail 

BTW, I am trying to read the mh-papers to see if this might shed some light.
I'm currently having a little trouble compiling the documentation using teTex 
;-)

Any suggestions?

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Re: inetd.conf corruption

1997-06-05 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Carlo U. Segre, you wrote:
 
 Hello All:
 
 I recently upgraded some systems from 1.2 to 1.3 and I noticed that the
 inetd.conf entry for smbd was missing along with the comments at the top
 of the file.  This has happened to all of the machines upgraded over the
 last few days.
 
 Could anyone pinpoint the package which is giving this problem?
 
 Is there any way to recover the proper inetd.conf (I know that a number of
 packages modify this file)?

If you have caught it within 24 hours, check /var/backups

Tim

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Re: Couple little things (bugs?)

1997-06-05 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 3, Jaakko Niemi wrote
 
   2) xmkmf has diappeared from xbase-package. It is still in
   xbase3.2-3, but not in 3.2-6! Should this package be moved
   to X-files ? :) I couldn't find any information nor relevant docs.
   Where is changes-file from /usr/doc ?

It was a 'development' program, so it's been moved to the xlib6-dev
package. You will want to install this package if you're compiling programs
that use X.

   Christian


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Re: When will Debian 1.3 be available?

1997-06-05 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 4, Joerg Friedrich wrote
 Hi!
 
 Debian 1.3 is announced on www.debian.org, but stable is still linked to
 rex on ftp. When will 1.3 be available?

The Debian 1.3 symlink has been made on master, so it's just a matter of
waiting for the mirrors to catch up now.

  Christian


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Re: orphan packages?

1997-06-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Kevin Traas wrote:

  I recently upgraded to bo and when I run dselect it shows some packages
  which are apparently non-existent.  I selected modules-2.0.0-15 from the
  base listing and multimedia-2.1-3 and dselect ignores the selection.  I
  checked the directory listings at ftp.debian.org and these packages do
 not
  seem to exist.
  
  Why does dselect show them as available (and know enough to not try to
 get
  them) 
  
  I updated the packages list, but dselect still shows them.  Is there a
 way
  to get dselect to agree with the Packages file?
 
 Same thing goes for Pine and Pico from non-free
 

But Pine and Pico are on the ftp server.

Bob


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Re: IConnect Corp Debian any good?

1997-06-05 Thread W Paul Mills
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Benedict Chong wrote:

 I bought infomagic's devel resource for the debian stuff and
 apparently it's broken.

Which Month/Year developers resource do you have. I used the
December 1996 with few problems. The base system installed fine.
Had some troubles due to X-windows, but these were not unique to
Infomagic. I also have the April 1997, but have not installed a
complete system from it. Perhaps if you posted your problems, 
someone could tell you how to work them out.
 
 So I'm looking at getting something from iconnect (www.i-connect.net).
 
 Are their cdroms any good? Has anyone ordered from them?
 
 All I want is a basic debian linux system set up with X and PPP
 support so that I can download new stuff.
 
 Ben


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Re: Debian 1.3 Release FAQ - Preliminary

1997-06-05 Thread Dennis Groves
Ah, I have just over 150MB, this is not even all of the binaries and none
of the source.

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 A real FAQ: how do I install Debian using FTP *and* PPP? Stress the fact
 that this means downloading 50-100 MB, depending on configuration.
 
 Good luck,
 
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U.S. Robotics modem question

1997-06-05 Thread Bubonic
I am having trouble getting debian to recognize my modem.  First off, its NOT a 
WINMODEM.  
It is a 33.6 courier w/voice.  It has plug-n-play built into it, however the 
jumpers are
not set to that, they are set to com2.  
 
As a test, I have tried minicom, which says that it initialized the modem, 
however, an OKAY
message did not occur, nor was I able to get the modem to dial up, so I 
therefore conclude
that debian can not see it.  I should note that the modem works...I'm using it 
right now
in win95 to dial in.   
 
Does anyone use this modem successfully?  If so, what kind of problems did you 
have?  and
how did you get around them?
 
I have heard from someone that a utility called isapnptools handles some of the 
problems
inheritant in PNP devices.  
 
Let me know if you have any ideas on this.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeff
 
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Re: Is xdm required?

1997-06-05 Thread jghasler
J. Goldman writes:
 Sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean by the statement that you don't
 want to be forced to activate it? Do you mean you'd like for your
 machine *not* to load xdm on startup?

I suppose I should have said don't want to be tricked into activating it.
I was concerned that upgrading xbase would result in xdm being silently
activated because the maintainer assumed that no one could possibly not
want it.

 If that's the case, just comment out the appropriate line in
 /etc/X11/config.

After somehow recovering from the flashing screen catastrophe (I have no
network, and my floppy drive just died).

In any case, my fears have been put to rest.

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Re: frozen unstable distribution problems

1997-06-05 Thread Francis C. Swasey
 Jim Pick said:
 I believe Bruce has some official CD images that would better to use for
 the frozen (now stable) distribution.  I think it's a 2 disk set.

If those are the images in the dist (or is it dists??) directory, the 
unstable one points at hamm, but hamm has lots of symbolic links back into bo. 
So, I had gotten a complete unstable image by taking everything from the 
dist(s)/unstable (symlink) directory and adding the bo tree to it so the 
symlinks would resolve.  I guess what I really need to do at this point is 
just copy the pieces of the bo tree that are referenced by those symlinks -- 
just a little more coding.

Thanks,
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re:Dead list?

1997-06-05 Thread Todd Harper
 Has this list died?  I've received 0 messages all day and little more in
 the previous 2 days.
 
 What's happening here?

Knowing little about list servers and their capabilities, is it possible
to somehow automate a system to let you know what lists you are
currently subscribed to?  

Something along the lines of sending a message to (say)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with list subscribed in the body, and
it will send back a message saying debian-user, debian-announce, ...
Or perhaps a web interface to it (syncing the lists between list and
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At least that way, you would know that you haven't been kicked off
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Ricoh CDRW (CD-ReWritable) drive

1997-06-05 Thread Lawrence Chim
Any debian package that support the Ricoh CDRW drive?
Does Debian a stable platform to burn CDs?

Lawrence,


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master.debian.org

1997-06-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
Any idea when master will be open for ftp again?

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Re: Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry

1997-06-05 Thread Lu Jimmy Chenji
I had the same warning when I used XF86_VGA16 server.  The problem
went away after I swiched to XF86_SVGA server.  This was my case. 
I am not sure it will apply to your case.

On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, David B. Teague wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Rob Browning wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes:
  
Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background
  
  Try netscape -install.  
 
 Doesn't work here.
 
  Your friend probably just has a background
  patern that's eating up some of the colors on what I would guess is an
  8-bit display.  Netscape is a real color hog (among other things), so
  running it with -install will let it install its own colormap which
  will be used whenever netscape has the focus.
 
 I don't know about Bruce's friend's problem, but, mine is a completely
 vanilla install, unmodified, straight from Netscape, using the Debian
 install package. It is truly a _default_ install, it is indeed 8 bit,
 but I don't know how to change it to other than 8 bit.
 
 Please ask for what ever configuration files you m ight need to help me
 and I'll send by private mail, rather than eat mailing list bandwidth.
 
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Re: U.S. Robotics modem question

1997-06-05 Thread Bruce Perens
Edit /etc/rc.boot/0setserial to set the correct interrupt numbers for all of
your serial ports. That should make the characters come back from your modem.

Thanks

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Re: IConnect Corp Debian any good?

1997-06-05 Thread Benedict Chong
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:23:43 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:

%On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Benedict Chong wrote:
%
% I bought infomagic's devel resource for the debian stuff and
% apparently it's broken.
%
%Which Month/Year developers resource do you have. I used the
%December 1996 with few problems. The base system installed fine.
%Had some troubles due to X-windows, but these were not unique to
%Infomagic. I also have the April 1997, but have not installed a
%complete system from it. Perhaps if you posted your problems, 
%someone could tell you how to work them out.

I have the december Infomagic stuff as well. I've installed Debian
from it twice including X (for S3) not problems.

Just wanted the latest and greatest...

Anyway, I just checked out CheapBytes suggested by someone else.

Their hot off the press is $35!

That's expensive!

I guess I'll stick to the Dec infomagic dev. resources and upgrade
from there...

Ben


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Re: Dead list?

1997-06-05 Thread Brian N. Borg
If the server is running Majordomo, send which as the text 
of an e-mail message to majordomo@server in question.  

You can also send help to get more info.

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Todd Harper wrote:
 
  Has this list died?  I've received 0 messages all day and little more in
  the previous 2 days.
 
  What's happening here?
 
 Knowing little about list servers and their capabilities, is it possible
 to somehow automate a system to let you know what lists you are
 currently subscribed to?
 
 Something along the lines of sending a message to (say)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] with list subscribed in the body, and
 it will send back a message saying debian-user, debian-announce, ...
 Or perhaps a web interface to it (syncing the lists between list and
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 At least that way, you would know that you haven't been kicked off
 the list for whatever reason.  Any other ideas?
 
 BTW:  Mail is still steadily pouring in here.
 
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Re: ssh for Debian?

1997-06-05 Thread George Bonser

Thanks folks, for all your help and pointers.  I have the software that I
needed.

Gee, this list is great!




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Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian

1997-06-05 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Glenn asked:

 Does anyone know if Infomagic corrected the missing files for Debian
 on their April LDR?

I complained about the missing files to InfoMagic and got the following
reply:


E.L.

This set was mirrored on the basis of what the Debian Folks
put on their site for a stable distribution.  We didn't include any of
the beta release.

regards,
henry m. pierce


Now there is a short uninterested reply if ever I saw one.  It is
possible that it is true though.  That's why I think it is a good idea
that there will be official CD images.  Maybe the Debian community
should not forbid anyone to just mirror the ftp-site, but it would be
nice if proven CD releases get an `official debian release' stamp or
something like that.  Obviously, InfoMagic is not going to get one.

An even shorter and less interested reply (i.e., none) I got from the
debian web master ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) however.  I commented that on
http://www.debian.org/vendors.html, there is a link to infomagic's
december 1996 CD-ROM set, which actually leads you to a page about the
April 1997 CD-ROM set, which misses a number of important files.  Maybe
it is a good idea to point this out on Debian's web pages, instead of
hinting people to buy that CD-ROM set, _which will not work_ (but then
again, maybe we don't care if they instead start using the Slackware or
RedHat version on those CD-ROM's (if _these_ work...)).

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Re: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine (fwd)

1997-06-05 Thread Carey Evans
Brian K Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 WAIT A MINUTE..I just discovered something as I was checking the
 log files. ifconfig is making kerneld try to load some net-pf-4 and
 net-pf-5 module?  What is this?  I can't find any reference to it in
 the kernel-source.
 
 %root% date ; ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 Wed Jun  4 12:49:12 CDT 1997
 
 [snippet of /var/log/daemon]
 Jun  4 12:49:12 servis modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
 Jun  4 12:49:12 servis modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
 
 This must be the root of the problem!  Any pointers.

Unfortunately this is unlikely.  net-pf-4 and net-pf-5 are things like
Appletalk and IPX, which you probably haven't compiled into your
kernel.  See `/etc/conf.modules'.

I can't see what other problems there would be.  Maybe someone else
has experienced this and solved it?

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Re: IConnect Corp Debian any good?

1997-06-05 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benedict Chong) writes:

[snip]

 So I'm looking at getting something from iconnect (www.i-connect.net).
 
 Are their cdroms any good? Has anyone ordered from them?

I got 1.2.5 from them.  The first CD I got was bad (some files
including disk images and Packages.gz were offset) but I was able to
get it replaced without too much trouble.

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Re: neXtaw

1997-06-05 Thread joost witteveen
 I've installed neXtaw and the /etc/ld.so.conf is correctly configured. I'm
 not a programmer myself, but I used ldd to check dynamic libraries.
 However not all the programs used the new neXtaw. For example, xftp does
 but xbmbrowser and xterm do not. They do if I do LD_PRELOAD before hand.

No they don't (or if xterm does, you'll have found a another *GOOD* 
reason to delay the release of bo another few weeks/months).

xterm is setuid root, so if you were able to specify what libraries xterm
uses by simply setting LD_PRELOAD, you'd be able to write your own
Xaw (or libc or whatever) wich will then run as root. Not a very good
idea.

I don'
t know about xbmbrowser (don't seem to have it on my system), but
maybe something similar.


 Also a lot of programs crash with neXtaw but not Xaw3d and Xaw. Is there a
 way to individually configure each program to use a certain library
 without using LD_PRELOAD. 

Link them with the -rpath option, specifying the library you want it
to use.

 This is for configureing menus in Afterstep.
(This part I don't understand).

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Re: IConnect Corp Debian any good?

1997-06-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
LSL (www.lsl.com) has their Tri-Linux CD (Debian 1.3, Slackware 3.2
and Red Hat 4.2) for $2.98.  I installed 1.2.5 from the previous version
and found it to be pretty complete (stable and contrib, but not non-free).
You probably can't beat the price.

Bob

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Benedict Chong wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:23:43 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:
 
 %On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Benedict Chong wrote:
 %
 % I bought infomagic's devel resource for the debian stuff and
 % apparently it's broken.
 %
 %Which Month/Year developers resource do you have. I used the
 %December 1996 with few problems. The base system installed fine.
 %Had some troubles due to X-windows, but these were not unique to
 %Infomagic. I also have the April 1997, but have not installed a
 %complete system from it. Perhaps if you posted your problems, 
 %someone could tell you how to work them out.
 
 I have the december Infomagic stuff as well. I've installed Debian
 from it twice including X (for S3) not problems.
 
 Just wanted the latest and greatest...
 
 Anyway, I just checked out CheapBytes suggested by someone else.
 
 Their hot off the press is $35!
 
 That's expensive!
 
 I guess I'll stick to the Dec infomagic dev. resources and upgrade
 from there...
 
 Ben
 
 
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Problems (with ssh?)

1997-06-05 Thread Petr Barta
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Hallo all,
I've got a problem which I'm not able to solve myself. It looks
rather strange to me. 
Situation:
I'v got two computers (comp1 and comp2) and two accounts on both of them
(acc1 and acc2). When I'm trying to connect via ssh from comp1:acc1 to
comp2:acc1, all I get is only message buffer_get trying to get more bytes
than in buffer. The same message I get when I'm trying comp1:acc1 -
comp1:acc2.
But when I try comp1:acc2 - anywhere, all is OK. The same applies to
connection from comp2:any - comp1:any 
Connections via telnet are all OK.

Can someone at least explain me why this strange problem occurs?

Thanks in advance for any help,
Petr Barta
PGP key: http://orin.czech.net/pgp.key

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Xfree86 3.3

1997-06-05 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Xfree86-3.3 is finally out!

Source is already available from ftp2.xfree86.org

Alex Y.


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Re: Dead list?

1997-06-05 Thread Pete Templin

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Brian N. Borg wrote:

   Has this list died?  I've received 0 messages all day and little more in
   the previous 2 days.
  BTW:  Mail is still steadily pouring in here.

Mail does seem to be flowing, although I am a bit cautious due to some
strange hang-ups at the primary listserver.

  Something along the lines of sending a message to (say)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] with list subscribed in the body, and
  it will send back a message saying debian-user, debian-announce, ...
  Or perhaps a web interface to it (syncing the lists between list and
  web server would be interesting).

Syncing the lists between two listservers is interesting, too...

I've thought about how to implement such a tool.  It's not easy to do so
since the two listservers are running different mail transport agents and
the primary is using a tricky hack to handle mail for lists.debian.org.

 If the server is running Majordomo, send which as the text 
 of an e-mail message to majordomo@server in question.  

Unfortunately, the Debian lists are run using Smartlist, which doesn't
offer the which function.

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mgetty: odd request

1997-06-05 Thread Adam Shand
Hi.

Today I discovered that I can issue my modems an atv1 command and they
will give me *LOTS* of usefull diagnostic information about the last
connection.

Now I would *really* love to log that information for each call to a file.
Now I am sure that there must be a way to do this with mgetty but I don't
know how.

Does anyone have any pointers on how this could be accomplished?

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Debian 1.2: where is locale?

1997-06-05 Thread Andy Spiegl

Hi,
I've asked this question a week ago already, but unfortunately
neither my posting nor any answers appeared.  Strange.

In the docs I often read about a utility 'locale', but I can't
find it anywhere.  Everything that has to do with locale seems
to work.  Just this program is missing on my machine.

Can anyone help me with that?
Thanks,
 Andy.

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Problems upgrading to 1.3

1997-06-05 Thread Gernot
I am having problems upgrading to Debian 1.3 with the latex-packages. I
know that I have to purge the old packages and it works fine despite for
the babel-package. I get the following error-message when i dpkg
--purge --force-depends  babel: 

mother# dpkg --purge --force-depends  babel
(Reading database ... 27160 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing babel ...
Purging configuration files for babel ...
Building new format(s) without babel support using install-fmt-base(8)
/var/lib/dpkg/info/babel.postrm: install-fmt-base: command not found
dpkg: error processing babel (--purge):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
 babel
mother# 


... So I cant proceed with the installation of the new packages :(
Anyone knows help?

Thanx, Gernot
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Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian

1997-06-05 Thread Glenn Amerine
 Eric == E L Meijer \(Eric\) E.L. writes:

Eric Glenn asked:
 Does anyone know if Infomagic corrected the missing files for
 Debian on their April LDR?

Eric I complained about the missing files to InfoMagic and got
Eric the following reply:

Eric 

Eric E.L.

Eric   This set was mirrored on the basis of what the Debian
Eric Folks put on their site for a stable distribution.  We
Eric didn't include any of the beta release.

Eric regards, henry m. pierce
Eric 


Eric Now there is a short uninterested reply if ever I saw one.
Eric It is possible that it is true though.  That's why I think
Eric it is a good idea that there will be official CD images.
Eric Maybe the Debian community should not forbid anyone to just
Eric mirror the ftp-site, but it would be nice if proven CD
Eric releases get an `official debian release' stamp or something
Eric like that.  Obviously, InfoMagic is not going to get one.

Their reply also indicates they didn't try to install their product
before shipping to the masses. That it pretty bad quality control. I
guess it is time to change vendors.

Thanks for the info!
Glenn
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Re: Problems upgrading to 1.3

1997-06-05 Thread Alexander Stavitsky

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Gernot wrote:

 I am having problems upgrading to Debian 1.3 with the latex-packages. I
 know that I have to purge the old packages and it works fine despite for
 the babel-package. I get the following error-message when i dpkg
 --purge --force-depends  babel: 
 
 mother# dpkg --purge --force-depends  babel
 (Reading database ... 27160 files and directories currently installed.)
 Removing babel ...
 Purging configuration files for babel ...
 Building new format(s) without babel support using install-fmt-base(8)
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/babel.postrm: install-fmt-base: command not found
 dpkg: error processing babel (--purge):
  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  babel

I'm new to debian but it looks like postrm script is using
install-fmt-base, which is in tex//mflib, tex//xypic packages, that
you've alreday removed.
The soluition might be to install them ^^^ and try to remove them
tex without --force-depends or at least remove babel first.


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Re: Cron setup

1997-06-05 Thread stick
 
  
 I know the basics of cron and its crontab file, but have a couple of
  questions about the specifics of how Debian implements cron.  In other
  words, I've never seen cron divided with subdirs for daily, weekly,
  monthly, etc.  I get the point of doing things daily or weekly, but I
  wonder what about the specific time to do these events..
 
The biggest difference in how Debian handles things wrt the subdirectories
is the run-parts program.  Check out the manpage for some more information
on how it works.

Basically, scripts in any language can be run routinely (daily, weekly, monthly)
with only one crontab entry.  This allows packages to add scripts without
munging-up the crontab file.  The only downside is that the system looses
the ability to specify a time for a particular script to be run.

 The scripts in cron.* don't run magically.  They are run by cron that
 checks /etc/crontab.  Mine looks like:
 
 # /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab
 # Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab'
 # command to install the new version when you edit this file.
 # This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs
 do.
 
 SHELL=/bin/sh
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
 
 # m h dom mon dow user  command
 42 6* * *   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.daily
 47 6* * 7   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.weekly
 52 61 * *   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly
 30 10,15* * 1-5 root/etc/cron.coffee
 * * * * *   rootatrun -d -l 0.5
 
 
 This is pretty much an `ordinary' crontab file with an additional user
 field.  Normal users have the `ordinary' crontab files like they exist
 on other unices.

Personal preference: I like having the entries (and heading) separated by
tabs - it keeps thing nice an orderly.

Like this:

# min   hr  dom mon dow usercommand
32  23  *   *   *   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.daily
42  23  *   *   7   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.weekly
52  23  1   *   *   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly

 
 I'm at a point to where I want to run a mirror process to fire off
  daily at about 1:00 am local.  Could someone outline the best way for me
  to implement this into Debian's cron setup?
 
 You can add your script to /etc/cron.daily and change the time these
 scripts are run from 6:42 am to 1:00 am, or you can add an extra item
 running your script.
 
If you want your mirror updated at a particular time, you'll need to add
an entry into /etc/crontab yourself.  If having it run *approximately* the
same time each day is close enough, then add you script to /etc/cdron.daily.


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Re: Help! Weird console errors

1997-06-05 Thread stick
 
 
 Hi I have a mostly complete installation 1.2 about halfway
 to 1.3 but anyway.. I was routing around in /etc and I'm not
 sure what I did but suddenly it prints out the bell character
 (it appears as a small circle) instead of actually beeping, and
 it also prints out the tab character instead of tabbig. Anyone
 have any idea what could do this or how to fix this? 
 
Have you tried running 'reset' to see if it corrects the terminal's
behavior?  It's been known to solve all sorts of weird problems for me.
(Like when you accidentally cat a binary file...)

 Thanks muchly,
 Nick

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Mirror delays.

1997-06-05 Thread Alexander Stavitsky

It has been two days since the announcement of 1.3 but ftp.debian.org did
not catch up yet. In fact, even Packages file in bo/binary-i386 is
inconsistent with directory contents. What is going on up there?

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Re: Mirror delays.

1997-06-05 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Alexander Stavitsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: It has been two days since the announcement of 1.3 but ftp.debian.org did
: not catch up yet. In fact, even Packages file in bo/binary-i386 is
: inconsistent with directory contents. What is going on up there?

As far as I know, Debian 1.3 has not been officially announced yet by
Bruce Perens. He sent a message to the list last Monday saying that they
were uploading a new set of floppies and waiting for the mirros to catch
up.

I know the Web site says 1.3 is released but until I don't heard anything
from the Project Manager I won't consider 1.3 as out.

Regards,

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Re: inetd.conf corruption

1997-06-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Carlo U. Segre writes:
 Hello All:
 
 I recently upgraded some systems from 1.2 to 1.3 and I noticed that the
 inetd.conf entry for smbd was missing along with the comments at the top
 of the file.  This has happened to all of the machines upgraded over the
 last few days.
 
 Could anyone pinpoint the package which is giving this problem?

It is cvs - and I thought it has been superceeded.

 Is there any way to recover the proper inetd.conf (I know that a number of
 packages modify this file)?

I suggest to mirror host-a:/etc on host-b:/home/backup/host-a and
vice versa.

Regards

Joey

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Re: making 16bpp the default in X

1997-06-05 Thread Rob Browning
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What's in your /etc/X11/Xserver file?  If it's pointing to the vga16
server, then that's your problem since that server can only go up to
16 colors.  One (crude) way to fix this is to reinstall the server you
want to use.  The postinst will ask you if you want to make it the
default server.  You should say yes.  Otherwise you could just edit
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Re: mgetty: odd request

1997-06-05 Thread Adam Shand
The sample config files show how to do this.

HooRAH!  Thanks heaps, that did the trick.  As far as I could tell the docs
were a ... ah ... little 'sparse' but enough was there.

 Now I would *really* love to log that information for each call to a file.
 Now I am sure that there must be a way to do this with mgetty but I don't
 know how.

If anyone else is wanting to know how to do this all you need to do is add
these two lines to your /etc/mgetty.config file (customzed suitably) under
the ports section (ie. you add it for each port):

statistics-chat  AT OK ATI2 OK
statistics-file /tmp/statistics.ttyC0

Mgetty gets cooler every day :)

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Re: Ricoh CDRW (CD-ReWritable) drive

1997-06-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:

 Any debian package that support the Ricoh CDRW drive?
 Does Debian a stable platform to burn CDs?

I'm not sure about the Ricoh drive. I use a Philips CD2000 with no
problems.

Mkisofs is the tool for creating an ISO9660 image file that can be burned
on a CD with cdwrite. These two programs are all that is needed to put a
directory tree on CD. Mkisofs has just added bootable cds to its
capabilities.

You might check with the cdwrite maintainer and see what he can tell you.
I believe the current maintainer is Steven Early [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Luck,

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Re: master.debian.org

1997-06-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 Any idea when master will be open for ftp again?
 
Mike N. just informed me that the inetd daemon had wandered of into booney
land. The problem should be fixed by now. Thanks Mike!

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Debian-talk defunct?

1997-06-05 Thread Max HYRE
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list.  (Relevant? extracts below)  Is the list still operational, or did the
lack of traffic lead to its demise?


Sincerely,

Max Hyre


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Re: *RFC* - Linux Router Project - Preliminary discussion

1997-06-05 Thread Dave Cinege

One of the people that responded to me has setup a mailing list. Thanks 
Jerry! 

Linux Router Project -

to subscribe send email to:

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in the message body put:

subscribe

The people responding to my initial query are very willing to get something 
going, and seem to have very good technical backgrounds for such a project. 

I already have a good base to start playing with on my own router. I may be 
able to make it available as early as this week-end.

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PPP Compression: Useful or Useless?

1997-06-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Leonard Monk wrote:
 
 Another concentric client (Jay Hofacker, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 suggested removing the bwd_comp module, and this seems to work.
 
 I suppose there is some loss of performance by removing this
 compression device.  If you have a suggestion for a better
 solution, please let me know.

If you were getting dropped a few seconds after connecting, then
it's likely that this compression protocol could not be negotiated
anyway. Ergo your performance can't be considered to suffer. Note
that compression protocols, while improving bandwidth, will always
introduce some amount of latency since encoding/decoding takes
compute time. Now don't everybody jump on me to tell me this amount
of time will be unnoticeable. I wouldn't be surprised if it is
effectively unmeasureable. The fact remains that it exists, and this
is the point I'm trying to make. 

To continue, consider what kinds of things take a long time to 
download. That is to say, ask yourself what sort of data you are 
downloading that will take a lot of time. I assert that most of the
time it'll be either a jpg or gif (WWW) or something which has been
gzipped. Guess what: you're not going to get much compression of these
suckers because they're already compressed. If you don't believe me 
then try some empirical tests yourself. This is because basically
all lossless compression algorithms take advantage of repeating patterns
and express these patterns with less bits. Once you've done this 
operation with a good compression algorithm, you've got data that's
getting pretty close to random, and you'll be hard pressed to compress
it further. Try gzipping a .gif file sometime and you'll see what I
mean. 

The long and the short of it is that I don't believe there's a big
bang to be gotten from compression over PPP for most people's usage
patterns. That's why I don't bother with it.

 I appreciate all the help people are willing to give, especially
 on this mailing list.  Still, I wonder if it is not becoming a
 critical problem for Linux that so many potential new users have
 such a hard time overcoming the miscellaneous obstacles to getting
 a good PPP conection.  I don't believe there is an easy fix, especially
 when one has to deal with ISP's who are very uninformative.

Yes, I believe it's a bigger problem than some Debian folks think it
is. I get the feeling that many Debianers (those making packages, 
running ftp/web sites, you know the ones) seem to have this idea that
most people are going to buy a Debian CD. I personally hold the belief
that *most* people get Debian via ftp, which generally presupposed 
a PPP connection. I believe the trouble could be solved by writing
a very intelligent Wizard-like (if I may use this M$ paradigm as
a basis for comparison) program which would step by step go through.
Such a program would actually need to *itself* dial the phone and
scan/interpret what it was getting back. Such a program wouldn't be
all that complex to create but would take some time. I'd like to do
it myself but I can't commit the time. Maybe someone is working on
such a thing?

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rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Richard Morin
Hi folks, 
I've ignored the cable access threads in the past because it didn't
pertain to me.  Now, I've been fortunate enough to have been selected for 
a free three month trial of rogers wave in my area (Internet access
through our cable giant Rogers). I was wondering if anyone could let me
know which packages I should be looking into to make it work under Debian.
Any other canucks out there using the wave?

As soon as the intallers from the cable company leave, re-boot from win95,
and check that baby out, I can't wait.I hope they don't expect me to
analyze their software too;-) 

TIA

Rich Morin
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Netscape 3.01 128bit

1997-06-05 Thread Matthew Tebbens
For the record and mailing list archive;

The 128bit versions of Netscape 3.01 and 3.01Gold do work with 
the currect Debian install package.

Matthew


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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
What kind of cable modems are they leasing to you?  Zenith?  LAN City?
Or are they doing it some other way?  If so, I can't provide much help
:/

With either the Zenith or the LAN City product, the cable modem is
actaully an ethernet switch/cable modem, and an ehternet card is
installed into your PC.  So, all you need to have are the drivers for
the ethernet card (shouldn't be a big deal, Linux has a ton) and all the
pertinent IP info.

In my real (read day) job, I work for Midcontinent Media in Sioux
Falls, SD.  We are attempting to roll out cable access - we already have
it active in a few test markets.  It's going well ... people love the 1
Mbps access speeds, and they like the price.

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Richard Morin wrote:

:Hi folks, 
:I've ignored the cable access threads in the past because it didn't
:pertain to me.  Now, I've been fortunate enough to have been selected for 
:a free three month trial of rogers wave in my area (Internet access
:through our cable giant Rogers). I was wondering if anyone could let me
:know which packages I should be looking into to make it work under Debian.
:Any other canucks out there using the wave?
:
:As soon as the intallers from the cable company leave, re-boot from win95,
:and check that baby out, I can't wait.I hope they don't expect me to
:analyze their software too;-) 
:
:TIA
:
:Rich Morin
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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Ron Welch
You will probably have to figure how to authenticate yourself on
the cable company's network, and how to get an IP address assigned
to you if it is done dynamically. I have the RoadRunner cable modem
service from Time-Warner, and they us DHCP to assign IPs and Kerberos
to do authentication.

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Re: IConnect Corp Debian any good?

1997-06-05 Thread Dan Irvin


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 From: Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Cc: W Paul Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: IConnect Corp Debian any good?
 Date: Thursday, June 05, 1997 2:21 AM
 
 LSL (www.lsl.com) has their Tri-Linux CD (Debian 1.3, Slackware 3.2
 and Red Hat 4.2) for $2.98.  I installed 1.2.5 from the previous version
 and found it to be pretty complete (stable and contrib, but not
non-free).
 You probably can't beat the price.
 

We just started shipping this today ( 6-5-97) its a binary only version. 
We 
Plan on doing the Oficial Debian 1.3 when the iso images are released.

-Dan

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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Richard Morin wrote:

 I've ignored the cable access threads in the past because it didn't
 pertain to me.  Now, I've been fortunate enough to have been selected for 
 a free three month trial of rogers wave in my area (Internet access
 through our cable giant Rogers). I was wondering if anyone could let me
 know which packages I should be looking into to make it work under Debian.
 Any other canucks out there using the wave?
 
 As soon as the intallers from the cable company leave, re-boot from win95,
 and check that baby out, I can't wait.I hope they don't expect me to
 analyze their software too;-) 

I don't know much about this, but I am in the same boat - I am travelling
to Burlington to hook up a machine that runs off the Wave. So I thought I
would describe what I thought needs to be done and then ask a few
questions of my own. 

First, read the dhcpcd mini HOWTO and the documentation to it (I have yet
to install this and look at the documentation other than the HOWTO).

To be done(?):
1) Set up debian to use the ethernet card in your box just as you would if
you were directly connected to the internet with a fixed ip address. This
should be fairly straight forward depending on you ethernet card.
2) According to the HOWTO, you need to get winipcfg (or what ever it is
called the probes the cable modem server for an ip address) to write out
it's information to file using some switch (specifics listed in HOWTO).
The HOWTO then goes on to instruct the user to boot to debian using
loadlin. I don't do this this way and I assume that you can just use lilo
as long as the partition where the winip output file is stored is
accessible.
3) (vague) Use the dhcp client ( dhcpcd ) to parse the information from
that file and ... done?

I know this is quite vague but I am hoping to have others fill in the
blanks. Anyway, the questions this raises are:
1) Can one get dhcpcd to probe the server itself? I thought that this
software basically replicated the winipcfg program.
2) What ethernet driver should I use for a D-LINK 220? NE-2000?

Cheers, Colin.

PS. I will report my failure/success as I go and would be quite happy to
contribute the either/both the dhcpcd documentation and the mini-HOWTO.

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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Colin R. Telmer
One other thing I forgot to mention. I think you can also use alternative
sofware such as bootp, but I am quite sure that Rogers Wave uses the dhcp
protocol. Cheers.

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Looking for New Maintainers

1997-06-05 Thread Christoph Lameter
I am listed as the maintainer of the following packages in the distribution.
These are available for other maintainers. I would especially welcome if
someone who wants to become a debian developer would take a package or two.
All packages have been done using debmake and should be easy to handle.

Some of these packages have had others volunteering to take over the package
in the past but they have not uploaded any new version and I am still listed
as the maintainer in the packages file. If you want to take one of those you
need to first try to contact the person listed.

ncsaNCSA Webserver
wwwoffleWeb Proxy for Offline Browsing
defrag  Peter Iannarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
genromfsBootup File System
bridge  Bridging 2.0.X Kernels
bridgex Bridging 2.1.X Kernels
ppp Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
berolistEasy to handle List Server
adbbs   BBS Software
eject   Eject and Change CDs
chosHelmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
boa Fast Webserver
gpc GNU Pascal
libgpc2
gpc-doc
verse   Daily Scriptural Verse
freefontFonts for X
bonnie  Performance Test
fdosFreeDos (probably obsolete since dosemu contains it now)
sharefont   Shareware Fonts
upsdBdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
newsx   News Retrieval
ncompress   Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
syslinuxBoot Loader for Debian Boot Floppies
ircdPaul Haggart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fvwm95  Kenneth MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pax David Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pashNC clone
netdiag Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
floppybackupBackup to floppies
zmailer Extremely efficient Mailer
isite   Web Search / Database Search engine
xskat   Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bible-kjv   Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
knfsKernel NFS tools
poppassdRemote password change daemon for Eudora etc.
transproxy  Transparent Proxy Tools
loadlin Boot Loader
freetypeTrueType FontManager
automount   Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
planColin Telmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: ftp only user account?

1997-06-05 Thread J . R . Blaakmeer
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 19:45:15 -0400 , Joey Hess wrote:
 How can I set up a user account that can only ftp in, and is restricted to
 their home directory in a chroot environment?

Add the user to /etc/passwd and put it in a group called 'ftponly' (or make
up a name, but this is the easiest to remember). If the group doesn't
exist, create it. The shell should be /bin/false. Add a line '/bin/false'
to /etc/shells. Now, you have a user that can't log in. Try it. I might
have forgotten something.

Now, set up wu-ftpd as your ftp server if you haven't done so already. In
/etc/ftpd/ftpaccess, add a line 'guestgroup ftponly'.

Now you should be all set up, if my memory serves me correctly. 'Guest'
users can do all normal ftp things, but wu-ftpd does a chroot to their
home directory. They can't get anything that is not in their home
directory (or mounted under it).

Remco




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Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian

1997-06-05 Thread Edward McKnight
So they didn't test it. I don't suppose a CD publisher who is
distributing other folks' stuff would ever be able to--especially in
the absence of a test suite. Their test should be to deliver a
pre-press CD to Debian for confirmation.

Don't change vendors, change procedures. If InfoMagic can't play by an
allow-verification-of-master procedure with the agreement that they
won't publish it if not approved (in a timely manner) by Debian...
*then* change vendors.

--emk


 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:33:54 -0400
 From: Glenn Amerine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org (debian)
 Subject: Re: April Infomagic LDR  Debian
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 
  Eric == E L Meijer \(Eric\) E.L. writes:
 
 Eric Glenn asked:
  Does anyone know if Infomagic corrected the missing files for
  Debian on their April LDR?
 
 Eric I complained about the missing files to InfoMagic and got
 Eric the following reply:
 
 Eric 

 Eric E.L.
 
 Eric This set was mirrored on the basis of what the Debian
 Eric Folks put on their site for a stable distribution.  We
 Eric didn't include any of the beta release.
 
 Eric regards, henry m. pierce
 Eric 

 
 Eric Now there is a short uninterested reply if ever I saw one.
 Eric It is possible that it is true though.  That's why I think
 Eric it is a good idea that there will be official CD images.
 Eric Maybe the Debian community should not forbid anyone to just
 Eric mirror the ftp-site, but it would be nice if proven CD
 Eric releases get an `official debian release' stamp or something
 Eric like that.  Obviously, InfoMagic is not going to get one.
 
 Their reply also indicates they didn't try to install their product
 before shipping to the masses. That it pretty bad quality control. I
 guess it is time to change vendors.
 
 Thanks for the info!
 Glenn
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YA newbie news setup question

1997-06-05 Thread Randy Edwards
   I've been trying to get a news setup configured here and was wondering
if someone could give a news newbie some pointers/direction.

   I want to get a news setup configured to pull news off from my ISP's
news server (news.together.net) and to eventually put FidoNet mail into
using a FidoNet-news converter ifmail.

   Because of these desires I believe I have to set up a regular server on
my system (golgotha).  So, I installed inn and innfeed, along with suck,
but haven't been able to get things working.

   Would someone be so kind as to either dump a working copy of their
inn.conf and hosts.nntp into a message or give me some guidance on how I
should be setting things up?  I've read the various man pages about the
config files but with so many different configs and with me basically not
having a clue, it gets tough as to know which is right and which needs
tweaking.

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Re: Looking for New Maintainers

1997-06-05 Thread Benedikt Eric Heinen
 I am listed as the maintainer of the following packages in the distribution.
 These are available for other maintainers. I would especially welcome if
 someone who wants to become a debian developer would take a package or two.
 All packages have been done using debmake and should be easy to handle.

There are two packages, which I'd like to take over from you - hopefully,
you'll later still be able to help out occasionally... ...in case of need.

 eject Eject and Change CDs
 bonniePerformance Test

From those packages you listed - these are two, that I both use(d), and
that look like both a good exercise to learn package handling and of
course they don't look like *too much* work... ;)

The main reason for the package takeover would be to learn package
handling, as I plan to build a few more packages later (among them a Roxen
package, I just won't step forward to do that until I have some experience
with doing that).

A possible third module might be:
 knfs  Kernel NFS tools
But - I am not yet moving to the 2.1 kernel release, so kernel nfs is not
yet an option for me... So, let's postpone that one.


 Some of these packages have had others volunteering to take over the package
 in the past but they have not uploaded any new version and I am still listed
 as the maintainer in the packages file. 
When I take over those packages, should I understand the above as to
release a new version of the package fairly soon, only so the package
maintainer gets changed (even if there are no real changes in the
package)?


If you would like me to take over those packages, please let me know.


  Benedikt


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Re: Netscape 3.01 128bit

1997-06-05 Thread Randy Edwards
 For the record and mailing list archive;
 The 128bit versions of Netscape 3.01 and 3.01Gold do work with 
 the currect Debian install package.

   Would you happen to know if the latest beta (communicator-v40b5*) will
work with the *.deb install shell?

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Re: PPP Compression: Useful or Useless?

1997-06-05 Thread Rob Browning
Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

First off, it was my impression that bsd_comp only affects ppp (TCP?)
headers.  It doesn't do any general data compression (so it wouldn't
try to compress the jpg data in a packet, just the headers).  I had
heard that it is essentially always a win.

 Note that compression protocols, while improving bandwidth, will
 always introduce some amount of latency since encoding/decoding
 takes compute time.

This really depends on how you define latency.  Let's say I want to
send a 1K TCP packet.  Presumably, how fast the first byte gets to the
other side is essentially irrelevant since the application waiting on
the data can't do anything until it gets the entire packet (given the
way TCP works).  In that case, if you can spend a trivial amount of
time compressing the packet (and you can with today's mostly idle
CPUs) to some fraction of its original size, the whole packet will get
transferred faster.  Although the first byte through latency is
higher, the packet latency can be *much* lower.

Another more abstract example where the *effective* latency is
dramatically reduced when compression is used is in the case of gzip
compressed ssh connections and X.  In a test letting ssh use gzip to
compress all it's transfers cut a remote launch of xview across a ppp
link to 1/3 of the non-compressed launch time.

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Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian

1997-06-05 Thread Glenn Amerine
 Edward == Edward McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Edward So they didn't test it. I don't suppose a CD publisher who
Edward is distributing other folks' stuff would ever be able
Edward to--especially in the absence of a test suite. Their test
Edward should be to deliver a pre-press CD to Debian for
Edward confirmation.

Edward Don't change vendors, change procedures. If InfoMagic
Edward can't play by an allow-verification-of-master procedure
Edward with the agreement that they won't publish it if not
Edward approved (in a timely manner) by Debian...  *then* change
Edward vendors.

I'm not saying they should have or even could have ran each
distribution through a test suite (even if they existed), nor am I
saying they should have ran a test suite through all the packages
contained in each distribution, which would be way too costly and time
consuming.

What I am saying however is that pressing disks without even seeing if
an operating system is installable or not is poor quality
control. Period. That would be like a programmer sending out a tarball
without un-taring, configuring and compiling the actual files that are
going to be sent out rather than making the assumption It builds from
my source tree so it will build from the files I'm sending out.

How long would it have taken an experienced Linux user to do a quick
install of three different distributions just to make sure something
major wasn't missing? Maybe a day at most?

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Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

1997-06-05 Thread Curt Howland

Somewhere in the dank recesses of my mind, I recall
a utility that would strip the extra ^M's from a
text file copied to a unix box. Well, it seems that
Linux also considers these ^M's extranious, is there
such a standard utility or do I have to dig even 
deeper to remember sed/awk/grep commands?  :^

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Re: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine

1997-06-05 Thread Brian K Servis
For those of you following this here is an update.

It appears to be some sort of name lookup failure.  I can't figure it
out. When I try and print with lpr it fails with the error given in
the subject.  This turns out is just an indicator of something else.  I
have a stand alone machine that I dial in to my isp and run slirp to
emulate ppp.  So, I have given my machine a bogus name of
servis.snet.  Before I upgraded to 1.3 I could ping, finger, telnet,
etc to servis.snet.  Now nothing seems to be able to figure out what
servis.snet is.  My conf files are:

/etc/hostname
servis

/etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost loopback servis.snet servis

/etc/resolv.conf
domain snet
search snet ecn.purdue.edu
nameserver 128.46.131.20
nameserver 128.46.131.20
nameserver 128.46.131.20
 
/etc/host.conf
order hosts,bind
multi on

/etc/init.d/network
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0

I don't know if named should be running or not.  If I start it with
the default config it tries to reach 198.41.0.4 in
/var/named/named.root and fails because I am not connected.  If I
start named when I have connected with ppp programs still do not
resolve what servis.snet is and give hostname failures. When I issue
'hostname' it returns 'servis' but if I call host name with any
commandline options it gives 'hostname: Unknown host' error.  

PLEASE HELP ME FIGURE THIS OUT, EVEN IF IT IS TRIVIAL!  

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

1997-06-05 Thread Alexandre Lebrun

install the 'recode' package
and use it like this :
recode ibmpc:latin1 YourTextFile

Bye,
Alexandre

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 
 Somewhere in the dank recesses of my mind, I recall
 a utility that would strip the extra ^M's from a
 text file copied to a unix box. Well, it seems that
 Linux also considers these ^M's extranious, is there
 such a standard utility or do I have to dig even 
 deeper to remember sed/awk/grep commands?  :^
 
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Solved: netscape problem

1997-06-05 Thread David B. Teague


Brian  ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) writes

 I'd appreciate it if you would try it with -visual Pseudocolr
 -install and let me  know what that does.

There was a plethora of messages in my mail today. Between notes
and suggestions from you guys (THANKS!) and some Reading of the
Fine Manual, I find that the /etc/X11/Xserver  (as it should be)
made the XF86_VGA16, not the SVGA server, which apparetly caused
the behavior I observed. 

In my old Slackware, I was using X11R5, with the vga255 server,
but could not find any thing like that in the Debian 1.2
distribution. In looking, I discovered that I had not installed
the SVGA server, (he said shamefacedly at being quite so NEWBIE)

I installed the SVGA sserver, ran XF86Configure - and, thanks to
the person who asked what was the default server in Xserver, I
made SVGA the default server. THen VOILA - everything works!

Brian Asks what I get with netscape -visual Pseudocolor -install 
I tried this _after_ moving to the SVGA server. With the SVGA
server, it changes the color of the windows when the focus goes
off the window, and I kinda like that.

I'll test that with the VGA_16 server tonight and write you about
that.

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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Colin R. Telmer wrote:
 
 On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Richard Morin wrote:
 
  I've ignored the cable access threads in the past because it didn't
  pertain to me.  Now, I've been fortunate enough to have been selected for
  a free three month trial of rogers wave in my area (Internet access
  through our cable giant Rogers). I was wondering if anyone could let me
  know which packages I should be looking into to make it work under Debian.
  Any other canucks out there using the wave?
 
  As soon as the intallers from the cable company leave, re-boot from win95,
  and check that baby out, I can't wait.I hope they don't expect me to
  analyze their software too;-)
 
 I don't know much about this, but I am in the same boat - I am travelling
 to Burlington to hook up a machine that runs off the Wave. So I thought I
 would describe what I thought needs to be done and then ask a few
 questions of my own.
 
 First, read the dhcpcd mini HOWTO and the documentation to it (I have yet
 to install this and look at the documentation other than the HOWTO).
 
 To be done(?):
 1) Set up debian to use the ethernet card in your box just as you would if
 you were directly connected to the internet with a fixed ip address. This
 should be fairly straight forward depending on you ethernet card.
 2) According to the HOWTO, you need to get winipcfg (or what ever it is
 called the probes the cable modem server for an ip address) to write out
 it's information to file using some switch (specifics listed in HOWTO).
 The HOWTO then goes on to instruct the user to boot to debian using
 loadlin. I don't do this this way and I assume that you can just use lilo
 as long as the partition where the winip output file is stored is
 accessible.
 3) (vague) Use the dhcp client ( dhcpcd ) to parse the information from
 that file and ... done?

The process described in the mini-HOWTO /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/DHCP.gz
is a *kludge* which in no way actually uses DHCP. It also *is not*
guaranteed to work even. Suppose you gave up your lease on the IP
after you shut down Win95? Then copying the data that you got from
winipcfg would do you *no good*.

The proper thing to do is use dhcpcd. I have it at home. I haven't
tried it yet ('cause I don't have my server set up yet either).
 
 I know this is quite vague but I am hoping to have others fill in the
 blanks. Anyway, the questions this raises are:
 1) Can one get dhcpcd to probe the server itself? I thought that this
 software basically replicated the winipcfg program.

The only *way* for dhcpcd to get the info is to probe the server.
winipcfg does nothing but read values out of the Registry which have
been set by the Win95 DHCP client code.

 2) What ethernet driver should I use for a D-LINK 220? NE-2000?

== zless /usr/doc/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.gz
indicates that the D-LINK 200 is supported. Perhaps the D-LINK 220
is compatible/also-supported. (Yes, it says the ne2000 driver is
used for that card.)

Anyway, the upshot of all this is that you should get the dhcpcd
package. *Ignore* the DHCP mini-HOWTO--there is nothing of value
in there for you.

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Re: gcc X: reprise

1997-06-05 Thread Lars Hallberg
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Obi writes:
 
  I could guess, but there are quite a few possibilities. The error message
  you recieve during compilation would be helpful. What does it say?
 
 Well, after untar the program I got an Imake file so I do a xmkmf -a and I ge
-t
 this:
 
 imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
 make Makefiles
 make: Nothing to be done for `Makefiles'.
 make includes
 make: Nothing to be done for `includes'.
 make depend
 gccmakedep  --   -I/usr/X11R6/include  -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE
 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO--
 bdfresize.c charresize.c
 
 after I try with make and I get this:
 
 gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -I/usr/X11R6/include  -Dlinux
 -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE
 -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c bdfresize.c -o bdfresize.o
 gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -I/usr/X11R6/include  -Dlinux
 -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE 
 -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c charresize.c -o charresize.o
 rm -f bdfresize
 gcc -o bdfresize -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486  -L/usr/X11R6/lib
 bdfresize.o charresize.o
 charresize.o: In function `countup_score':
 charresize.o(.text+0x779): undefined reference to `MIN'
 charresize.o(.text+0x786): undefined reference to `MAX'
 charresize.o(.text+0x792): undefined reference to `MIN'
 charresize.o(.text+0x79e): undefined reference to `MAX'

I have not used thes macros for a while so I dont know about recent
C standards but MIN and MAX used to be standard preprocessor macros.

You can define them like this:

#define MIN(x, y)  ((x)  (y) ? (x) : (y))
#define MAX(x, y)  ((x)  (y) ? (x) : (y))

Add this at top of charresize.c (or cc). If this helps it migtht be good
to track down the REAL problem (this is more like a sympthom).

HTH /Lars

 make: *** [bdfresize] Error 1
 
 I still believe that in the last command (gcc -o ...) some libraries (-l..)
 are missing ...
 
 
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Re: Newbie

1997-06-05 Thread Alexandre Lebrun


On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Rick Morrison wrote:

 Just installed Debian 1.3.  Am a UNIX newbie as well as a Debian newbie.  
 It's up and running  but 
 

Great, a new user !

 1. Can't TELNET in to the system running it.  Sez 'connection refused'.  
 Can't even telnet into itself!  TCP/IP is up and running as I can TELNET out. 
  Can ping it, etc...

try tcpdchk to check if your telnetd is available.
You can also browse /etc/inetd.conf by hand and search for telnet
/etc/host.deny should be empty on your default install. Or it contains 
something like ALL:PARANOID
In that case try to comment it out. 

 
 2. Any suggestions as to steps for getting X up and running?
 
install the packages xbase, xfnt*, a window manager (fvwm?, afterstep, 
..), an X server for your video card (one of xserver-*, chose 
xserver-vga16 if you don't know which to chose).

Hint : read the help page for dselect.
You have to know that / performs a search through the 1000 packages.

Then dselect will try to guide you. Try to be clever and tell us the results.
You should be able to have it running without much difficulties. ( If the 
distribution is well done, and I hope it).

At this point you probably have a minimal, ugly X (few colors, low res...).
Get your video card and monitor handbook, 
run xf86config and (try to) answer the questions it asks.
It will recommend you a server. If you don't have it already, install it.
(xserver-svga in my case ).

read /usr/doc/HOWTO/X.. 

 Thanks ... sorry for the bandwith waste.
 
The list is here exactly for that.
Always try to get the answer in a FAQ, an HOWTO (in /usr/doc )
a manpage ( 'man name_of_prog' or 'man -k topic' ), on the web...
But if you don't find by yourself probably someone else can help. Just ask.

 Rick Morrison
 Wayne State University
 
  
 
 
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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Ron Welch
FWIW, there a new version of the DHCP mini-HOWTO at:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/DHCPd

I appears to have been updated on 5 March 1997. It
no longer mentions winipcfg.

P.S. Does anyone know about how this wave does authentication.
Does it use Kerberos?
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Re: trouble with mh

1997-06-05 Thread Lars Hallberg
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Lauffenburger writes:
 BTW, I am trying to read the mh-papers to see if this might shed some light.
 I'm currently having a little trouble compiling the documentation using teTex
- ;-)

The Makefiles that build thes docs use some script that deletes the output
(.dvi) depending of the return of the latex command. I hacked that feature
out of the makefile and the resulting .dvi was usefull (if not completly
correct as i remeber). I blamed this on me not succesfully seting up the
old debian tex pakages but it might help You to

HTH /Lars

 
 Any suggestions?
 
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Re: Debian-talk defunct?

1997-06-05 Thread Pete Templin

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Max HYRE wrote:

I just got a message returned from an attempt to send to the debian-talk
 list.  (Relevant? extracts below)  Is the list still operational, or did the
 lack of traffic lead to its demise?

There hasn't been a debian-talk at least since I took over management of
the lists.  If there is sufficient reason to do so, I'll gladly recreate
the list.

 - --- Start of forwarded message ---
 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:53:41 +1000
 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
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 (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

- Transcript of session follows -
 ... while talking to mail.vv.com.au.:
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  550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown
 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown

These errors suggest that perhaps the message was not addressed to
@lists.debian.org or that vv.com.au may have other configuration oddments.
Any ideas?

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Re: rogers wave cable access....

1997-06-05 Thread Colin R. Telmer
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Ron Welch wrote:

 FWIW, there a new version of the DHCP mini-HOWTO at:
 
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/DHCPd

unfortunately that is the server (dhcpd), not the client (dhcpcd). After I
take a stab at this, perhaps I'll try to write up a client mini-HOWTO. As
for the kerbosos, I'll let you know after the weekend. Cheers, Colin.

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Cron setup -- thanks/summary

1997-06-05 Thread Randy Edwards
   Just a quick note of thanks to all who replied about the Debian cron
setup.  I was thrilled with the response and it's greatly appreciated.

   Rather than summarize, I'll just say that if anyone has any questions
about the cron setup that Debian uses please do not hesitate to mail this
newly educated cron guru :-) and I'll happily help out as much as I can.

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Re: frozen unstable distribution problems

1997-06-05 Thread jghasler
Jim Pick writes:
 I believe Bruce has some official CD images that would better to use for
 the frozen (now stable) distribution.  I think it's a 2 disk set.

Francis C. Swasey writes:
 If those are the images in the dist (or is it dists??) directory, the
 unstable one points at hamm, but hamm has lots of symbolic links back
 into bo.

I realize that it would use more disk space, but I really think that the CD
images should contain no links.

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Re: ftp only user account?

1997-06-05 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 19:45:15 -0400 , Joey Hess wrote:
 How can I set up a user account that can only ftp in, and is restricted to
 their home directory in a chroot environment?

Add the user to /etc/passwd and put it in a group called 'ftponly' (or make
up a name, but this is the easiest to remember). If the group doesn't
exist, create it. The shell should be /bin/false. Add a line '/bin/false'
to /etc/shells. Now, you have a user that can't log in. Try it. I might
have forgotten something.

Now, set up wu-ftpd as your ftp server if you haven't done so already. In
/etc/ftpd/ftpaccess, add a line 'guestgroup ftponly'.

Now you should be all set up.
No. The user won't be able to list directories. gzip on the fly,...
As root cd to his/her home directory, then
  cp -a /home/ftp/{bin,lib,etc} .
to give the necessary binaries and shared libraries to do useful work.

if my memory serves me correctly. 'Guest'
users can do all normal ftp things, but wu-ftpd does a chroot to their
home directory. They can't get anything that is not in their home
directory (or mounted under it)
That's correct.


Nils

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Re: Couple little things (bugs?)

1997-06-05 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 On Jun 3, Jaakko Niemi wrote
  
 2) xmkmf has diappeared from xbase-package. It is still in
 xbase3.2-3, but not in 3.2-6! Should this package be moved
 to X-files ? :) I couldn't find any information nor relevant docs.
 Where is changes-file from /usr/doc ?
 
 It was a 'development' program, so it's been moved to the xlib6-dev
 package. You will want to install this package if you're compiling programs
 that use X.
 
Christian

Ahh. I just put a yellow post-it note on the side of my monitor and it 
reads:

If something is missing, first check under your nose.


Works fine now. Thanks!


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Re: gcc X: reprise

1997-06-05 Thread Obi
Thanks for the help. Now it works.

graziano


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unhosing my compiler

1997-06-05 Thread stephen farrell

Oh geez... what have I done?  I can't seem to figure out which library
is missing, but if I try to compile, e.g.:

#include stdio.h
int main() {
#ifdef __GNUC__
#ifdef __VERSION__
printf(%s\n, __VERSION__);
#else
printf(%s\n, 1);
#endif
#endif
exit(0);
}

I'll get:

/tmp/cca027141.o: In function `main':
/tmp/cca027141.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `_stdprintf'

And you can imagine it gets worse for something bigger!  I figured I'd
hosed libc.a or similar?  But it seems to be intact.  I've reinstalled
the gcc from frozen to no avail  I've also monkeyed with dselect
for an hour or so trying to figure out the glitch
(uninstalling/installing gcc, libc5-dev, libpthreads), but no luck.

Thoughts on unhosing my compiler very welcome...

This is a 1.2.x upgraded to frozen system. gcc 2.7.2.1-8.  libc5.4.23.

Thanks
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g++ targetcompali - dos 8086 code?

1997-06-05 Thread Lars Hallberg
Hello

Is it posably (whit debian packages) to targetcompile C++ code
for dos 8086 and 80286 targets? If not, is it posably under Linux
at all?

I prefere g++ or a g++ relative but if that is not possably
anything goes (even commersial).

If not again, is anyone runing an dos C++ compiler succesfully
under DOSEMU? Or just know about a dos C++ compiler that can
produce 8086 code and is more upp to date then the Borland
Turbo C++ 3.0

TIA /Lars

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Re: g++ targetcompali - dos 8086 code?

1997-06-05 Thread John Foster
If you get the GNU source you can build a cross-compiler, by
specifying the right arguements to the configure script.

I built a gcc that produced ELF binaries for Linux on a SprcStation
that way...

John Foster

On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Lars Hallberg wrote:

 Hello
 
 Is it posably (whit debian packages) to targetcompile C++ code
 for dos 8086 and 80286 targets? If not, is it posably under Linux
 at all?
 
 I prefere g++ or a g++ relative but if that is not possably
 anything goes (even commersial).
 
 If not again, is anyone runing an dos C++ compiler succesfully
 under DOSEMU? Or just know about a dos C++ compiler that can
 produce 8086 code and is more upp to date then the Borland
 Turbo C++ 3.0
 
 TIA /Lars
 
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Re: Connecting terminals

1997-06-05 Thread Kevin Traas
  How many terminals can I connect to my PC using the 4 standar
  serials ports?.
 
 Kevin As many as you have serial ports to connect them to.  While
 Kevin a standard PC can support 4 serial ports, almost all only
 Kevin have two physical ports on the back of the PC.  To get any
 Kevin more than that, you'll probably want a multi-port serial
 Kevin board.  Linux supports quite a few different types;
 Kevin however, the only one I've used is the BB2016 from Boca.
 Kevin It's a 16-port board with RJ48 (10-conductor) connectors
 Kevin (others have RJ45 (8-conductor) or DB25 connectors).
 Kevin RJ48's and DB25's are best if you're thinking of connecting
 Kevin modems as well as standard terminals.
 
 Another way to connect a large number of terminals to a Linux box is
 to put an Ethernet NIC in the Linux box (if there isn't one already)
 and then connect a terminal server to the Ethernet.

bin there, dun that using Digiboard PortServer II's.  I wasn't all too
happy with performance, though  And the price is pretty outrageous
compared to a Boca BB2016.

Digiboard PS2 - 16 port = $2000 (Canadian)
Boca BB2016 - 16 port = $300

Of course, for an extra $800 per 16, you can upgrade the PS2 to max of 64
ports  But for about $800, I can buy el-cheapo used PC's, drop a
BB2016 into them, install Linux, and spend less money than the PS2's

If you ask me, the Boca boards are a good deal all around

But, if you want to buy Digiboard PS2's, I've got two like new one's
sitting right here that I'd really like to unload

later,

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read news on/off line

1997-06-05 Thread Timothy Phan
Hi,

  I'd like to thank all the people who have helped me setting up
  the PPP connect this week.  I've finally gotten to work :)

  Now,  I'd like to readnews online.  Currently,  I'm able to
  use netscape to readnews.  However, I'd like to use the rtin
  instead which I currently have some problem with.  My ISP
  requires a my ISP-username/password before I can access the
  news.  I'd like to know how do I make rtin to send this info
  to my ISP's new server?

  Secondly,  would some one please point me to the doc./pointers to
  setup the Debian system to download the news onto my local drive
  for later use?  Thanks!

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A question

1997-06-05 Thread Behan Webster
We use exim as our MTA.

I've set envelope_to_remove = true at the beginning of exim.conf
and I set envelope_to_add for the local delivery directives.
This should delete any Envelope-to headers of received email
and set it to the the envelope it came in on as it stores it
locally (using the pipe transport).

We use the Envelope-to: header with fetchmail to impliment
a multidrop mailbox for our internal mail system.

I've noticed though, that if mail is aliased or forwarded to
another address which is local to exim, the Envelope-to header
is not updated to reflect the new envelope recipient.

Is there a way of doing this easily within exim?

Except for this one thing, exim has been very easy to configure
and has been able to be setup to do exactly what we've wanted.

Thanks,

Behan

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Re: Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

1997-06-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes:
  
  Somewhere in the dank recesses of my mind, I recall
  a utility that would strip the extra ^M's from a
  text file copied to a unix box. Well, it seems that
  Linux also considers these ^M's extranious, is there
  such a standard utility or do I have to dig even 
  deeper to remember sed/awk/grep commands?  :^
 
In vi:
:/g/^V^M$/s///
(where ^V means control-V)

or, again in vi:
:1,$s/.$//
or, in ed or sed:
1,$s/.$//
if you are sure that _every_ line ends with an unwanted character.

It seems simpler than installing a special utility.

I expect perl or awk would also offer entertaining solutions!

If you copy from a mounted msdos filesystem, or ftp in ascii mode, you
avoid the problem in the first place.
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Re: Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

1997-06-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 
 Somewhere in the dank recesses of my mind, I recall
 a utility that would strip the extra ^M's from a
 text file copied to a unix box. Well, it seems that
 Linux also considers these ^M's extranious, is there
 such a standard utility or do I have to dig even 
 deeper to remember sed/awk/grep commands?  :^
 
The seesat5 package (a satellite tracking program) provides a little
program called cr that will convert text files from DOS style carriage
returns to Unix ones and back. Seesat5 needs the facility to incorporate
DOS generated element files on the Linux file system without the extra ^M
which causes problems for seesat5.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine (fwd)

1997-06-05 Thread J.P.D. Kooij

To me it looks like nameserving doesn't quite work out-of-the-box in 
upcoming debian 1.3. 

I've upgraded a box to frozen and that broke a working bind 
configuration, I don't know how badly because I haven't really had the 
time to look into it.
On fresh installations, nslookup can't find even localhost.  



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Re: lpr: unable to get official name for local machine (fwd)

1997-06-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
For what it's worth, I upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3 about a week ago on a
server that is authoritative for a few zones ... no problems at all.

I realise this doesn't assist you in solving your immediate problem, but
I'm not so sure that the Debian package is to blame..

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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, J.P.D. Kooij wrote:

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:To me it looks like nameserving doesn't quite work out-of-the-box in 
:upcoming debian 1.3. 
:
:I've upgraded a box to frozen and that broke a working bind 
:configuration, I don't know how badly because I haven't really had the 
:time to look into it.
:On fresh installations, nslookup can't find even localhost.  
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Re: Stupid Question: Striping Dos ^M From Texts

1997-06-05 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer

  tr -d '\r'  dosfile  unixfile

removes all ^Ms, even if they are not at the end of the line
where MSDOS seems to put them.  tr(1) is small and fast.

  perl -p -i.bak -e 's/\r$//;' dosfile

renames the dosfile dosfile.bak and writes the corrected
output in dosfile.  The $ anchors the search pattern to 
the end of the line.  Omit the -i.bak if you don't want
to save the old file.


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