Re: xauth problem
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Sir you are missing the point. Stop confusing the guy. What you're saying is based upon an assumption that this trick would be used whenever root logged in. Now why would that be necessary? If you log into xdm as root you won't *need* to futz with this stuff because xdm will have already set it up for you. The *only* reason he'd be doing this is because he su'd to root while logged in as another user. Note that I told him to do this *after* he su'd to root. In this case, .Xauthority will not be written to, only read. And, why the hell would he want to use ssh? He's doing this on the same frigging machine. He said he logged in with xdm right? Damn it I hate it when people spread disinformation like this. I am sorry if I confused anyone. I assumed that he would get tired of always typing in the same commands every time he does a `su' and that he would put the 'export...' command in root's .bashrc or something like that. If he would do that, there would be a risk that the .Xauthority file would be written by root some day. I find the method with ssh the most convenient one for getting a root xterm on the localhost. I only have to click the menu and type the root password and everything is set up correctly. Do you know of another way that is this simple to use? Oh, and could you wrap your lines at something below 80 characters? Long lines in e-mail messages are also confusing. :-) Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote: unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb) I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went well. Tim -- ## # # # # # # ## ## # # # # # Debian GNU Linux ## # # # # # # ## # ## # # # # Power to the people... # # # ## # # E-Mail: Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xauth problem
Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remco Blaakmeer wrote: snip Don't do that. The minute root writes to that file (when root logs in to X or uses the xauth command), it becomes owned by root and the user can't log in to X anymore. What you could do is using ssh. This command will do the trick: xterm -title Root -n Root -e ssh -l root localhost You can add it to a Fvwm(1,2,2-95) menu or button bar. ssh will take care of X forwarding automatically, no matter if you 'connect' to the localhost or another host. In any ssh session, you can simply do something like xterm and the window will appear on the local screen. Sir you are missing the point. Stop confusing the guy. What you're saying is based upon an assumption that this trick would be used whenever root logged in. Now why would that be necessary? If you log into xdm as root you won't *need* to futz with this stuff because xdm will have already set it up for you. The *only* reason he'd be doing this is because he su'd to root while logged in as another user. Note that I told him to do this *after* he su'd to root. In this case, .Xauthority will not be written to, only read. Assuming, of course, that root never uses the xauth command. While this may be a safe assumption most of the time, it isn't always. Also, there are other circumstances in which entries are added to the ~/.Xauthority file - I haven't quite tracked them down, but both my root ~/.Xauthority file and my user's ~/.Xauthority file contains several entries of the form: ppp83.hcf.jhu.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 digits I obtain ip addresses automatically when I dial up via ppp; several (though not all) recent IP addresses show up in lines like this. I never put these there explicitly with xauth; however, they seem to accumulate which makes me think that something will write to $XAUTHORITY without direct intervention. I believe this validates Remco's concern about root writing a user's .Xauthority. And, why the hell would he want to use ssh? He's doing this on the same frigging machine. He said he logged in with xdm right? Damn it I hate it when people spread disinformation like this. It appears to me that in your rush to condemn Remco for not understanding what was going on you failed to realize what a usable, general, and elegant solution this root xterm is to the usual annoyance of doing X stuff as root. (and there's no danger of root ever writing to ~user/.Xauthority) Further, the command line given is aimed very clearly at a user trying to do root things on the same machine he's sitting at - ssh may be overkill, but there's not anything less comprehensive that handles Xauthority forwarding. My assumption is that you saw ssh and missed the localhost. That Remco responded as civily as he did is one of the things that continues to amaze me about this list. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
large drives with linux / LBA
Hello all, I am going to be using linux to set up a small intranet web server/mSQL DBserver for a client of mine and have a bit of concern about the system i have scoped to use. they have an old dx-33 with 20mb ram that isn't doing anything which should really be fine for what i'm thinking about setting up. (any concerns?) only problem is that it only has a 128MB drive in it that i would like to be at least a 540MB. of course i can't find anything smaller than a 1.6GB these days. Because the motherboard is an old VESA thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support LBA. if this is the case will it be a problem? is there something that i can do to get around this? am i going to have to upgrade the motherboard to something newer? (and then the video card too because i can't buy anything but PCI boards these days) we are trying to keep cost relatively low here. (non-profit organization) thanks for any suggestions, rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Whiney little request
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Joost Kooij wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:45:32 +0100 (CET) From: Joost Kooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Whiney little request Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:53:40 + Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Richard Wicks wrote: P.S. I've just installed debian (good riddance to slackware) and beleive I encountered a bug when trying to install netscape. Did anybody else have a similar problem? I kept getting an error where dselect told me that the the netscape.tar.gz file should be in my /tmp directory. Does this sound familar to anybody? In anycase, netscape did not install so I picked it up from the netscape website via lynx. The netscape package that comes with debian is only an installer/wrapper. Before you install it, you need to have the netscape tarball in /tmp (or $TEMPDIR). Besides installing the netscape binaries in the right places and registering it to the package management system, the debian package also provides a wrapper for netscape to ensure that it doesn't crash because of version conflicts with your system libraries. and where is netscape installer in hamm ? regards OK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xauth problem
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sir you are missing the point. Stop confusing the guy. snip Assuming, of course, that root never uses the xauth command. snip I already got a mail from Jens containing phrases like good point etc. I think either he just misunderstood me or I didn't make myself clear enough the first time. And, why the hell would he want to use ssh? He's doing this on the same frigging machine. He said he logged in with xdm right? Damn it I hate it when people spread disinformation like this. It appears to me that in your rush to condemn Remco for not understanding what was going on you failed to realize what a usable, general, and elegant solution this root xterm is to the usual annoyance of doing X stuff as root. (and there's no danger of root ever writing to ~user/.Xauthority) Further, the command line given is aimed very clearly at a user trying to do root things on the same machine he's sitting at - ssh may be overkill, but there's not anything less comprehensive that handles Xauthority forwarding. My assumption is that you saw ssh and missed the localhost. That was exactly my point. ssh _is_ overkill, but it is the only _useable_ tool. That Remco responded as civily as he did is one of the things that continues to amaze me about this list. Thanks. I think that this is a very polite list that gives a reasonable answer to any reasonable question, even for non-Debian issues. Like I said before (on this list or another?), the Debian community is very fortunate to have such a list. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Whiney little request
Besides installing the netscape binaries in the right places and registering it to the package management system, the debian package also provides a wrapper for netscape to ensure that it doesn't crash because of version conflicts with your system libraries. and where is netscape installer in hamm ? It's the package Netscape, either 3.1 or 4.03(?). put the netscape .tgz in /tmp, then instlall the netscape package -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Whiney little request
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Joost Kooij wrote: The netscape package that comes with debian is only an installer/wrapper. Before you install it, you need to have the netscape tarball in /tmp (or $TEMPDIR). Besides installing the netscape binaries in the right places and registering it to the package management system, the debian package also provides a wrapper for netscape to ensure that it doesn't crash because of version conflicts with your system libraries. and where is netscape installer in hamm ? It's in the contrib/web section. That's in debian-root/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/web . Please do not use the names 'hamm' and 'bo' when you want to point dselect at them. Instead, use stable, contrib and non-free for bo and dists/unstable/main, dists/unstable/contrib and dists/unstable/non-free for hamm. The latter syntax will become the standard for the stable Debian 2.0 too, AFAIK. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Whiney little request
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: [about the netscape installer] It's in the contrib/web section. That's in debian-root/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/web . I forgot to mention that the package name has changed, too. There now is a netscape3 package and a netscape4 package. But you can only install one of them, as they conflict with each other. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: large drives with linux / LBA
rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because the motherboard is an old VESA thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support LBA. if this is the case will it be a problem? is there something that i can do to get around this? am i going to have to upgrade the motherboard to something newer? Linux doesn't have a problem with this setup. Linux doesn't use BIOS functions, thus Linux can easily access the entire drive. Lilo - the bootloader - might have problems. Lilo uses BIOS functions to load the kernel from the disk, thus the kernel must reside on a physical location on the disk that is reachable by BIOS functions, i.e. within the first N sectors (N=1024 IIRC). This is easily obtained by partitioning the disk and putting the kernel on the first partition. The rest of the Linux installation can reside anywhere on the disk. - Sten Anderson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xauth problem
I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and checked the variables (as suggested) : XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ? I see this Xauthority problem as a security hole and want to close it before jumping online. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hamm screen
What does: strace screen report? ... aw shucks, strace doesn't work suid. Wait a minute, does ls -al /usr/bin/screen report: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 177788 Oct 10 20:18 /usr/bin/screen Brandon - Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know linux is great... it PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] does infinite loops in 5 seconds Phone: (757) 221-4847 --Linus Torvalds -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
strange rvxt behaviour
I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm and if I log out as root everything works fine again. What is causing this?? Thanks, Tim -- ## # # # # # # ## ## # # # # # Debian GNU Linux ## # # # # # # ## # ## # # # # Power to the people... # # # ## # # E-Mail: Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xauth problem
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and checked the variables (as suggested) : XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ? This will NOT work. You must use the fully expansion of ~ in that statement. I use: export XAUTHORITY=/home/jgg/.Xauthority I'm sure that some sh wizard can give you an incantation that will automatically expand ~ to it's full path. Incidently, if you put that in the proper place a root shell 'su'-d to will be able to use your X server. Jason Hopeing this mail goes through since our firewall just died a brutal painfull death and now I am on ppp : -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm and if I log out as root everything works fine again. Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the display, the user who started the session does. A quick fix (but insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root. A better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CD-RW drives
Does anyone know if recent Linux kernel versions support CD-RW drives, such as the HP 7110I? Martin Jackson: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Information Science Major Mankato State University === -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xauth problem
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and checked the variables (as suggested) : XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ? I see this Xauthority problem as a security hole and want to close it before jumping online. If you have something like declare -x XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority in /etc/profile, you can safely remove it. $HOME/.Xauthority is the default place for this file and there is no security hole in not setting this variable. Note that the file must have permissions 0600 if you care about security. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
On 15 Jan 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm and if I log out as root everything works fine again. Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the display, the user who started the session does. A quick fix (but insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root. A better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info. With the default setup for X in hamm, the xhost command is useless and should not be used. I think it is very strange that it happens in an rxvt and not in an xterm. Normally, I use ssh to give me an xterm where I can type commands as root. Before I had ssh, I would su to root and then execute this script, which I called 'getcookie': #!/bin/sh pushd /home/remco /dev/null if [ X$DISPLAY = X ] then DISPLAY=:0 fi su remco -c /usr/bin/X11/xauth nlist $DISPLAY | /usr/bin/X11/xauth nmerge - popd /dev/null Here, `remco' is my own username. Substitute it with yours. The pushd/popd commands are to make sure the commands executed by su have a readable 'current working directory' (/root has permissions 0700 on my system). Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the display, the user who started the session does. A quick fix (but insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root. A better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info. A useful trick is to set the XAUTHORITY environment variable. For example, $ XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority $ export XAUTHORITY or in csh % setenv XAUTHORITY $HOME/.Xauthority Now when you use su, the XAUTHORITY variable still points to the correct file and you can access the display. Note that `su -l' does not work, since the XAUTHORITY environment variable is unset. Brian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xauth problem
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and checked the variables (as suggested) : ssh uses crypto, so it's on a non-us mirror (there's a readme.nonus on the ftp sites I think). XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority [EMAIL PROTECTED](p2):checklist$ ls ~$USER/.ssh ls: ~bhmit1/.ssh: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED](p2):checklist$ ls `expr ~$USER/.ssh` ls: ~bhmit1/.ssh: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED](p2):checklist$ ls `eval ~$USER/.ssh` bash: /home/bhmit1/.ssh: is a directory ... Third time's the charm. Note those are back ticks. The $HOME solution is just as good, if not better. I see this Xauthority problem as a security hole and want to close it before jumping online. I wish my school thought this way. Although it makes it possible for fun scripts like grabbing a screen shot and displaying it, they get confused when non of the windows work anymore and the mouse doesn't pull up menus in the background :-) Brandon - Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know linux is great... it PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] does infinite loops in 5 seconds Phone: (757) 221-4847 --Linus Torvalds -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Q] ~/.xinitrc is not being read
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:05:04PM -0500, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote: I use now xdm to login into the system -- however it seems like my ~/.xinitrc is being ignored. .xinitrc is used for startx, and .xsession is used for xdm logins. I symlink them together here for convenience. Actually, the symlink isn't necessary; just the .xsession . With a stock startx, and system xinitrc and Xsession files, startx will (eventually) call your .xsession (assuming it exists, .xinitrc does not, and /etc/config has allow-user-xsession set). I discovered this when I was having problems with startx not loading any Xresources. -- Snoopy For Sale: Parachute. Only used once. Never opened. Small stain. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CDROM mount locking up
Hi, I am having trouble with a Mitsumi CDROM, that is connected to a Mad16 card (software configurable). When mounting a disk, the mount seems to lock up. I think this is because I haven't set it up properly yet. What I'm wondering is, is there a way to kill off the mount? It halts after saying something about the disk is write protected, so it's mounted read only. I can't kill the mount, but if I shutdown the system, it can't unmount root, as it's busy. Is it possible to kill this mount, cause it's a pain not been able to cleanly unmount the hard drive. It may take me some time to work out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for any help, Tim. --- Debian/GNU Linux... the maintainable operating system. http://www.debian.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mount of linked /usr halts nfs on whole network
When mounting /usr over a link, we locked our Debian Linux and ended all network mounts for Linux SunOS and Solaris. For two years, we have tailored RedHat Linux. We boot up with a minimal /usr. We then mount a large Linux /usr directory from a Sun's disk drive. We use this /usr in common on several Linux computers. More specifically, we have on each RedHat Linux computer /usr -- /usr-mounts/usr /usr-mounts/usr -- /usr-at-boot [the minimal /usr during boot] When booting finishes, we mount the full /usr, mount -type nfs cramer:/export/redhat-linux/usr /usr-mounts/usr We usually did this via amd. Indeed, amd is the whole reason for the complexity, since amd takes over whole directory structures including the parent directory, so we could not use amd to automount /usr. This all worked well with RedHat. Removing Redhat Linux from one computer, we installed from scratch Debian Linux. We tried the same arrangement as for RedHat above, including mount -type nfs cramer:/export/debian-linux/usr /usr-mounts/usr We tried five times, getting the same response. We locked our Debian Linux operating system; and the Sun computer (cramer) from which we mounted would no longer accept mounts, then all computers which subsequently tried mounts off this Sun (cramer) would lock their immediate xterm window. The Sun problems would clear only when we rebooted the initial Sun computer (cramer). Since RedHat Linux continues to work well in this scheme, I do not believe our Sun computer is at fault, though I am disappointed at its frailty. For each time we tried the above Debian Linux scheme, before we tried the remote mount of /usr, we installed Debian Linux up through the hamm update. We followed the libc5-to-libc6 recommendations, so the kernel was 2.0.30. Does anyone know: 1. What might cause our Debian mount of /usr to network-wide ruin nfs? 2. Since sharing /usr this way is involuted, is there a better way to share /usr between several Debian Linux computers? -- Jim Burt, NJ9L, Fairfax, Virginia, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mnsinc.com/jameson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not the shortcomings of others, nor what others have done or not done that one should think about, but what one has done or not done oneself. --Dhammapada [dp command for quotes from the Dhammapada, in Linux] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux IPX configuration.
BUT slist reports sometimes this infinito# slist: Unknown code 255 in ncp_initialize This usually occurs when ncpfs doesn't think IPX knows any routes, eg before the auto_primary stuff has taken effect, although it seems to have already from the proc files you've shown. Perhaps ncpfs doesn't support tr devices? There's no reason why it shouldn't, but maybe the support just hasn't been written. Contact the ncpfs author to find out for sure, or the appropriate mailing list if there is one. I have two linux boxes on differents subnets. Both have similiar setup (I don't have tr devices). One runs without problems. When I upgraded kernel from 2.0.30 to 2.0.32 (on both) on second slist gives me incorrrect list - to short - only 40 servers (this a magic number?). Only some count of answers (below %10) gives me real list ~100 servers. I do test 1000*slist. I got 23 answers with ~100 servers 1 answer with 30 servers 2 answers with: Unknown code 255 in ncp_initialize and 1000-(23-1-2) answers with 40 servers :) I mirror some files from one netware server (my script with ncpmount witch was OK). Whith recent problems I have checked my script: %5 answers: Unknown code 255 in ncp_initialize %93 answers: ncpmount: Server Unknown when trying to find CI-1 %1 OK :) Mirek -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Strange...
Hi all ! First, I'd like to thank every people in this mailing list who helped me configuring my Debian/Gnu Linux network (35 PCs + a server running great !). I've noticed a strange message sometimes when I read root's mail on my server: 1) I read mail (with mail) 2) I delete all the messages 3) I quit mail 4) I encounter a Thou hast new mail message ! In fact there are no more messages for root... Although it causes no harm, I'd like to know where it comes from. Is it a biff/mail bug ? Seb. PS: I run Debian 1.3.1 on my machines -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Can the Debian package be updated? It's a bit of a pain using a version of Netscape that isn't (closer to) current. I guess it probably doesn't matter now we have hamm, but it would still be nice :-) What about installing Netscape in /usr/local/? Is Netscape 3.01 installed by Debian better than Netscape 3.04 installed in /usr/local? I already downloaded 3.04, don't really want to get an older version! Actually, I installed 3.04 with the Debian package - just to see what would happen, but I think I will uninstall it and put it in /usr/local. Any ideas? Thanks, Tim. --- Debian/GNU Linux... the maintainable operating system. http://www.debian.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Taper settings w/ Exabyte 8505
Hi, I'd like to know if anybody knows how to make taper work correctly with an Exabyte 8505 streamer (or whatever you call it:-)). My only problem is that I cannot use the can seek functionnality (if I use it, taper doesn't seem to be able to retrieve the good block; I guess my block-size settings are not correct), although someone told me that this drive could handle it. As I don't have any documentation for this drive, I'm not sure it's true. Here's the result of cat /proc/scsi/scsi; if someone has the same drive and know what settings are needed with taper, please give me a hand: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: EXABYTE Model: EXB-85058HE- Rev: 0085 Type: Sequential access ANSI SCSI revision: 2 Here are my settings (Tape drive preferences): Rewinding device: /dev/st0 Non-rewinding device: /dev/nst0 Have fast fsf: YES Can seek: NO (w/ taper, SCSI defaults to YES) Set block size: NO Get block size: NO Block size: 028K Need to erase tapes: NO Tape size in MB: 0 (If use anything else, taper doesn't work:() Please note: I _can_ make backups and I _can_ restore them; I just cannot use taper's can seek functionnality. Suggestions anybody ? Thanks, Seb. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Cron for NT
Does anyone know any cron program for NT 4.0 Server ? -- John Fotiadis Direct +30 94 464225 Senior Systems Engineer Relational Technology S.A. Sybase Distributor in Greece Phone + 301 995 8780 Fax +301 995 8783 415 Vouliagmenis Ave. 16346 ATHENS GREECE -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Tim Thomson wrote: What about installing Netscape in /usr/local/? I guess it would not follow the FSTND/Debian's politic. Normally, Debian packages are installed in the /usr directories; /usr/local is left for local/non-debian applications. However, you can install Netscape 4 wherever you want: you just have to set the MOZILLA_HOME environment variable to tell it where's its home dir. Is Netscape 3.01 installed by Debian better than Netscape 3.04 installed in /usr/local? I have not tried to install Netscape 3.01 with the Debian's installation package, but there are lots of differences between NS-3.01 and NS-4.04... The installation procedure may have changed. I already downloaded 3.04, don't really want to get an older version Neither do I, even if NS-4 requires lots of system resources ! Actually, I installed 3.04 with the Debian package - just to see what would happen, but I think I will uninstall it and put it in /usr/local. Netscape provides a script for installing Communicator. I've used it to install Communicator under /usr/local/produits/sv-cguvaens/netscape and had no problem (remember that with such directories you need to set the MOZILLA_HOME variable !). Hope it helps, Seb. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
According to Curt Howland: Good afternoon. I tried to install Netscape Communicator, and received the error that it needed libc6, which I do not have. So I went back to use the old netscape 3.01 (i think) that I had been using, but it seems to have been partially purged. I say partially, because when I went to install v3.04, I got the following message: ian# dpkg -i netscape_3.01-4.deb (Reading database ... 19956 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking netscape (from netscape_3.01-4.deb) ... - This release is for a different version of netscape than the one installed. Please 'dpkg --purge netscape netscape-beta' and reinstall this package. You will need the original 3.01 source archive from Netscape to do this. Place the source archive in /tmp. dpkg: error processing netscape_3.01-4.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: netscape_3.01-4.deb So, I tried getting the old copy, as below, Curt- I installed it, using the the Debian script, by simply changing the name of the tar-ball: mv netscape_3.01*.tar.gz netscape_3.04*.tar.gz (or something like, it's from my memory, you have to put in the _complete_ correct file names. But it is obvious.). Yes, the script recommends not to do it, but it works. It conflicts, however with NS4 anyway (which I installed to /usr/local). kws -- O##OO##O O##O O##O ==The famous SchwebebahnAA==suspension==AA===AA===railway===AA Dr. Karl-Wilhelm Schulte AA AA AA AA Bergische Univ.-GH/HRZ ,__AA__AA___AA_AA___. Gaussstr. 20 | || || || |X| |X| || || || | D-42097 Wuppertal | || || || |X| |X| || || || | Tel 0202/4392807,Fax -2910 |_|| ||___|| |X|_|X| ||___|| ||_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | |X X| | | | | `==+=+=+=+X===X+=+=+=+==' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: unable to insmod irqtune_mod
Hi, I have just compiled and installed kernel 2.0.33 on my debian 1.3.1/hamm hybrid system. I have recompiled irqtune 0.6 for my kernel. but when I type insmod ./irqtune_mod.o I get the following error: ./irqtune_mod.o: kernel-module version mismatch ./irqtune_mod.o was compiled for kernel version 1.0.0 while this kernel is version 2.0.33. and irqtune_mod.o is not loaded. Any ideas why. I have kernel 2.0.32 on debian 1.3.1 (pure bo) and no problems with irqtune 0.6. I know that irqtune is default compiled for kernel version 1.0.0 but it should run (check README). Check or/and send output of: /Your_irqtune_path/irqtune -e 21 irqtune.otput Mirek -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xauth problem
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and checked the variables (as suggested) : XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ? Well, I don't have that in my /etc/profile, but it might not be a standard /etc/profile. Bash in fact does do this correctly: $ declare -x FOO=~miquels $ echo $FOO /home/staff/miquels But some ways of quoting and/or using $USER might cause it not to work. Without seeing the exact line from your /etc/profile we cannot see what might be the problem. Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | The dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac lay in his bed [EMAIL PROTECTED] | awake all night wondering if there is a doG -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?
Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Gregory Guthrie wrote: The XF86 config file points to /dev/mouse, which is a link to a serial port, but, my mouse is not on S0/S1. the correct PS/2 mouse port is /dev/psaux. How should /dev/mouse be setup for this, in windows it is a separate port at IRQ 12. use /dev/psaux and it'll be taken care of automatically. You might do rm /dev/mouse ln -s /dev/psax /dev/mouse to make a new /dev/mouse link that points to /dev/psaux, and then use /dev/mouse instead of /dev/psaux. That way if for some reason you ever need to use a serial mouse, you can just change the link rather than reconfiguring every piece of software that uses the mouse. My system has a /dev/psmouse that is the same device as /dev/psaux as far as I can tell... I have a PS/2 port on the motherboard (it's an Intel TX chipset board) and I tried hooking my Logitech trackball to it but it managed to make the computer very upset -- the keyboard locked up! Also when I tried to start X without the mouse plugged in - but with it configured to use /dev/psmouse - it wouldn't start. Both times I had to log in over the ethernet and fix the problem by rebooting (keyboard lockup) or killing the X processes (mouse problem). Anyone get this to work? I'd like to be able to hook up a terminal to the serial port that i've been using for mouse. --Bill. -- William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1803 Mission St. #339voicemail +1 408/479-4072 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458-8862 PGP Key 0x2BD331E5; Public key at http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/pubkey.txt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hacker attack: leaves .BitchX dir in root's home
Carlos Carvalho hat gesagt: // Carlos Carvalho wrote: My site has been atacked by a hacker using a method that leaves a directory .BitchX (or something close) in root's home dir. It gets the user/password combination of any user that telnet, ftp or use pop3 to get to the machine (no ssh). What's the security hole that's being exploited? At first the attacker didn't have the root password. Don't know about this BitchX-stuff, but the rest might be a juggernaut attack. Juggernaut is a nice and userfriendly telnet-hijacker that has been presented in Phrack-magazine. It steals an established telnet-, ftp- or pop3-session and compiles good under debian and any other linux (I don't think it is or will be a debian package though :) ) If you have been attacked by juggernauts you should see so called ACK storms. AFAIK the only solution is to use ssh-programms. -- Yours a href=http://www.koeln-online.de/einblick/; Frank Barknecht Das Koelner Stadt- und Unimagazin - /a -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Hallo! I'm a new Linux user, so I've got some unsolved Problems. 1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly. Win95 and Debian 1.3 run on my box, so if Win95 runs as default, Linux won't boot, if Linux runs as default, I'm unable to boot Win95. Here are some system informations: Harddisk: Quantum Fireball 2.10 GB - No ramdisk support LILO configuration file: --- # LILO configuration file # # Start LILO global section lock boot = /dev/hda compact # faster, but won't work on all systems. delay = 10 # 10 Sek. Reaktionszeit vga = 1 # force sane state ramdisk = 0 # paranoia setting install = /boot/boot.b map = /boot/map # End LILO global section # DOS bootable partition config begins other = /dev/hda1 label = m table = /dev/hda # DOS bootable partition config ends # Linux bootable partition config begins image = /vmlinuz root = /dev/hda5 label = l read-only # Non-UMSDOS filesystems should be mounted read-only for checking # Linux bootable partition config ends # Alternative: alten Kernel booten image = /vmlinuz.bak root = /dev/hda5 label = lb read-only Partition table (fdisk): Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *11 204 411232+ 6 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 205 205 1022 16490885 Extended /dev/hda5 * 205 205 24582624+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda6 246 246 26132224+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda7 262 262 509 499936+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda8 510 510 560 102784+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda9 561 561 713 308416+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda10 714 714 917 411232+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda11 918 918 1022 211648+ 83 Linux native Partition table (cfdisk): - Disk Drive: /dev/hda Heads: 64 Sectors per Track: 63 Cylinders: 1023 NameFlags Part Type FS Type Size (MB) -- /dev/hda1 Boot PrimaryDOS FAT16 [ ] 401.63 /dev/hda5 Boot LogicalLinux 80.72 /dev/hda6 LogicalLinux Swap 31.50 /dev/hda7 LogicalLinux 488.25 /dev/hda8 LogicalLinux 100.41 /dev/hda9 LogicalLinux 301.22 /dev/hda10LogicalLinux 401.63 /dev/hda11LogicalLinux 206.72 Pri/LogFree Space 1.97 The partitions /dev/hda8 to /dev/hda11 are not in use 2. I've installed XEmacs. The keys Backspace and Delete work both as Backspace. I'd like it, that Delete works as Control-D (^D). I've tried this in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, but it doesn't help: xmodmap -e keycode 22=Backspace 3. I don't like it to shutdown the computer. So if I don't work, I shutdown to the xdm-login and switch off the monitor. But if I want to login after some time, the xdm-login is shifted up and after login the screen presents a much wider display, so I have to adjust the monitor again. My monitor is a new Yakumo Modell. Default resolution is 1158x864. Maybe it helps to print some parts of the /etc/X11/XF86Config file: Section Monitor Identifier Primary Monitor VendorName Unknown ModelName Unknown HorizSync 30-65 VertRefresh 50-100 Modeline 1024x768 85.00 1024 1028 1148 1348 768 772 775 819 Modeline 800x60069.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -hsync -vsync Modeline 640x48045.80 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -hsync -vsync Modeline 640x40031.50 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync Modeline 512x38422.00 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -hsync -vsync Modeline 480x30029.95 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 doublescan Modeline 400x30025.00 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 doublescan Modeline 320x24015.75 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 doublescan Modeline 320x20012.59 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 doublescan Modeline
Re: SEUL packaging, etc.
I would like to make it almost trivial for a user to install a package, i.e. click in a hypertext help/wizard window and it will install what is required for functionality set X. Some time ago I made a suggestion that was only slightly commented on (as I have been rather busy I have not followed up) that I believe addresses this issue. Problem #0: Installation is too hard. I have to type in all kinds of installation parameters. Solution #1: Make a graphical interface, everybody knows picking is much better than typing. [Is this the essence of what Erik is proposing?] Problem #1: (Problem with Solution #1) Installation is hard, I have to enter in all kinds of installation parameters and I can't just enter them and let the installation proceed on its own, I have to shepherd it all the way. Solution #2: Make better use of the multi-stage select/install/configure. Cause all the information required to install to be obtained during the select phase. Separate the configure into two phases one to collect the configuration information and the second to actually perform the configure (Could this information be obtained during the select as well). Problem #2: Installation requires me to have a significant amount of insight into the workings of each package that I have to install. I want this ability for the packages that I am particularly interested in but for the bulk of the packages I really don't care. In fact what I really want is to have an installation like (for example) Bud (basic user/developer). Solution #3: Add in a second level install program which provides a GUI and has all the standard selections already entered. If I want something different then I can simply pick different options. [Is this the essence of dselect, diety et al?] Problem #4: But, what if there are multiple standard selections that cross multiple packages, then I have to hard code them into the second level install program. This will make for the baulkanization of install packages. [Is this the cause for SEUL project?] What I really want is to make it possible for me to manage MY configuration and to be able to share MY configuration with other like minded people, i.e. people acting in the same role. This is the arguement against the Debian distribution, debian is for bit-heads, hackers, nerds, ... and not for normal, typical,... people like ME. Solution #4: Extend the first level install programs to comprehend package recursion. Extend the current package to allow the inclusion of other packages. These new collection packages have options which override the default parameters of constituent packages. Ultimately, the specific system administator should have the ability to generate a collection package consisting of their own selected set of packages. This would allow for the sharing of system configurations. Problem #5: This could/would lead to a explosion of packages which add no real functionality to the distribution. People would start arguing over what was the best way to organize the package hierarchy. Also, the atomic packages (those that do not include other packages) would be more prone to failure? Solution #5: Is this a problem? Finally, it is possible that all this discussion has already gone on in the development of Deity and others. If so, sorry for consuming valuable band width, if not, I would like to see some discussion on this thread. In particular I would like to see some discussion of the the different roles which typical linux users may play. Fred There are two kinds of people; those who divide people into two groups, and those who don't. -- unknown -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
device /dev/hdh does not exist....
I have just compiled into the kernel my cdrom and reading this the system does in fact find it on boot (am i correct??) hdh: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS hdh: MATSHITA CR-581, ATAPI CDROM drive Now if i put a cd in the drive and try to mount it i get the following.. Root [~]#mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom mount: special device /dev/hdh does not exist I was told that i need a script to enable/create devices this high (is this correct??) and if so where/what is it? I've been a debian user now for 2 year and have never successfully had a cd-rom working on my system and would really like now. Any help/suggestions here would be appreciated. Thanx. PS If there is any info anyone needs to help me here please let me know and i'll let you know. --Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Ted Harding wrote: It's whatever suits your taste. I have directories /A: /C: and /D: for mounting msdos floppy partitions on: helps the DOSsers to feels at home! (and yes, the colon is part of the name). Put entries in /etc/fstab, a floppy in the drive, and people can learn to mount /A: very easily. quite nifty. I'll keep it in mind when giving a friend's Dog the kiss of life, next time ;) peter. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
FTape
Well i had put this on the back burner aswell for a short time but have put it back in my system. I have just reinstalled an IomegaDitto 2GB tape drive (Internal). I run kernel version 2.0.32 (which i need for a specific ether card) so i can not run 2.0.30. Now i download ftape-2.0.30 try to install.. Unpacking ftape-2.0.30 (from .../utils/ftape-2.0.30_3.04d-1.deb) ... You've got a ftape module for your running kernel. Please compile a kernel with disabled ftape support. No i have checked this twice now and i don't have ftape configured in either configured in or as a module (no modules here) #Edited .config # CONFIG_FTAPE is not set So... any suggestions??? Anyone else out there running this tape drive with this kernel? --Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: device /dev/hdh does not exist....
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 08:43:06AM -0500, Pure Energy wrote: Now if i put a cd in the drive and try to mount it i get the following.. Root [~]#mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom mount: special device /dev/hdh does not exist I was told that i need a script to enable/create devices this high (is this correct??) and if so where/what is it? Not at all; % mknod /dev/hdh b 34 64 will do the job nicely. These numbers (34 64) are from the Documentation/devices.txt from the kernel source. In fact, /dev/MAKEDEV, the program SUPPLIED for creating devices without looking up the numbers, and part of the *required* package makedev, can happily do it for you: % cd /dev % ./MAKEDEV hdh MAKEDEV knows about most of the devices you'd ever want to make. So all you need is the kernel source to get the magic numbers or MAKEDEV. Nothing special involved. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: device /dev/hdh does not exist....
Pure Energy wrote: I have just compiled into the kernel my cdrom and reading this the system does in fact find it on boot (am i correct??) hdh: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS hdh: MATSHITA CR-581, ATAPI CDROM drive Now if i put a cd in the drive and try to mount it i get the following.. Root [~]#mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom mount: special device /dev/hdh does not exist I was told that i need a script to enable/create devices this high (is this correct??) and if so where/what is it? I've been a debian user now for 2 year and have never successfully had a cd-rom working on my system and would really like now. Any help/suggestions here would be appreciated. Thanx. cd /dev ./MAKEDEV hdh Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Management decisions have no effect on the laws of physics. -- anon ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mail notification
Tim Thomson wrote: Hi, I have a number of mail boxes, to handle the different lists I am on. I use procmail to filter the mails to the right folders. I have put: MAIL='/var/spool/mail/tim;/home/tim/mail/debian-user;/home/tim/mail/seul- project' MAILCHECK=10 into my .bash_profile. I have tried the same MAIL variable as MAILPATH but this didn't work. I use xbuffy to do mail notification. It's a better xbiff-like program. Also, how can I have mail that have been cross posted still sorted into the correct boxes? At the moment procmail looks at the TO headers, but if something is crossposted, all the mails go into the same box. I think I need to set something in a different header, but I don't know what it is. Don't sort on `To'. When you receive newmail on your spool file, `more' it and you will see an initial `From' line which you can use with procmail. Examples: - MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail #you'd better make sure it exists :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] procmail :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] fetchmail :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] fvwm :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] aic7xxx - Or put all mailing lists other than Debian in `mailing': - MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail #you'd better make sure it exists :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian #Majordomo lists :0: * ^Sender: owner-\/[-a-zA-Z0-9_.]* maillists #SmartList lists :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: \/[-a-zA-Z0-9_.]* maillists - -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
I am no loger able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm and if I log out as root everything works fine again. A shot in the dark... Might be the same intermittent bug I have: This occurs with rxvt v2.21 (latest vsn) and rxvt 2.20 (from XFree-3.3). This is therefore not a Debian-specific problem (unless caused by libraries). One in a while, I get: $ /usr/X11R6/bin/rxvt rxvt: can't open pseudo-tty rxvt: aborting The weirdest thing is that (1) It's intermittent. Works now and maybe not when I get back from coffee break. (2) After a few errors, the command may work again. (3) xterm works. So when I get the rxvt error, I call `xterm' and exit from it, and then immediately calling `rxvt' works. $ strace rxvt [much stuff deleted] getegid() = 1000 getuid()= 1000 setreuid(65535, 1000) = 0 getgid()= 1000 setregid(65535, 1000) = 0 open(/dev/ptyp0, O_RDWR) = -1 EIO (I/O error) open(/dev/ptyp1, O_RDWR) = -1 EIO (I/O error) open(/dev/ptyp2, O_RDWR) = -1 EIO (I/O error) open(/dev/ptyp3, O_RDWR) = -1 EIO (I/O error) open(/dev/ptyp4, O_RDWR) = 4 access(/dev/ttyp4, R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) close(4)= 0 open(/dev/ptyp5, O_RDWR) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) open(/dev/ptyp6, O_RDWR) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) [more of the same...] open(/dev/ptysf, O_RDWR) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) open(/dev/ptyt0, O_RDWR) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) [more of the same...] open(/dev/ptyzf, O_RDWR) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) $ ls -l /dev/pty* crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 2, 0 Jul 2 16:04 /dev/ptyp0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 2, 1 Jul 3 09:48 /dev/ptyp1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 2, 2 Jul 2 11:06 /dev/ptyp2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 2, 3 Jul 3 09:44 /dev/ptyp3 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 2, 4 Jul 3 09:44 /dev/ptyp4 crw-r--r-- 1 root sys2, 5 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp5 crw-r--r-- 1 root sys2, 6 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp6 crw-r--r-- 1 root sys2, 7 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp7 [etc...] -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: device /dev/hdh .. SOLVED ..
Thanx :) i now have the cdrom working with.. cd /dev ./MAKEDEV hdh Help was appreciated :) 2 years and first time that (mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom) worded :) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape installation info [Re: Whiney little request]
Anthony == Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, since the topic *is* ``Whiney little request'' and wrappers such as this seem the most likely way to integrate commercial software into Debian, is it worth considering a way of specifying how to get needed non-deb files? Something like: Required-nd: netscape.tar.gz Source: netscape.tar.gz ftp://ftp.netscape.com/wherever/netscape.tar.gz would be substantially more intuitive and convenient for the beginner (perhaps the SEUL people would like to think about this?) at the very least. The description of netscape3 in the Packages file does state how and where to get the netscape tar file, but the description for netscape4 doesn't. From netscape3: Netscape Communications Corporation does not allow redistribution of their software. Therefore, this package requires the user to fetch the netscape archive separately and place it in the directory pointed to by the TMPDIR environment variable (or /tmp if TMPDIR not defined) before attempting to install this package. You can get the linux packages via anonymous ftp from archive.netscape.com as: ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/ netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xauthority
An update on the Xauthority problem 8-) On a wild idea, I commented out any references to initializing XAUTHORITY anywhere in the system. Lo and behold, xauth worked and I now have good .Xauthority files for root and other users! I did logout all users to reset all the enviroment variables before using 'xauth'. Is this a feature or a bug? BTW, now xdm won't finish booting for any user other than root. I get the initial Xserver screen, then return to login. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
statically linked ls ???
I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1 and lib/libc.so.5) Is there any binary already available? If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar) thanx. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xauthority
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An update on the Xauthority problem 8-) On a wild idea, I commented out any references to initializing XAUTHORITY anywhere in the system. Lo and behold, xauth worked and I now have good .Xauthority files for root and other users! I did logout all users to reset all the enviroment variables before using 'xauth'. Is this a feature or a bug? I don't know why it is behaving like that. Could you post the exact lines to this list? Then somebody can have a look at them. BTW, now xdm won't finish booting for any user other than root. I get the initial Xserver screen, then return to login. That might be caused by the .xsession file in root's home directory or by /etc/X11/Xsession if the former does not exist. Take a look at them. You can also try to remove the .Xauthority file and log in again. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: statically linked ls ???
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1 and lib/libc.so.5) Is there any binary already available? ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/debian/upload/ls If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar) Add -static somewhere on on the gcc commandline (the final linking stage) in the Makefile. That's how I generated mine. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potentially offensive files, part 5: /dev/random. `head -c 4 /dev/random` may print 4-letter words (once every approx 4e8 tries). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: FTape
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Pure Energy wrote: Well i had put this on the back burner aswell for a short time but have put it back in my system. I have just reinstalled an IomegaDitto 2GB tape drive (Internal). I run kernel version 2.0.32 (which i need for a specific ether card) so i can not run 2.0.30. Now i download ftape-2.0.30 try to install.. Unpacking ftape-2.0.30 (from .../utils/ftape-2.0.30_3.04d-1.deb) ... You've got a ftape module for your running kernel. Please compile a kernel with disabled ftape support. No i have checked this twice now and i don't have ftape configured in either configured in or as a module (no modules here) #Edited .config # CONFIG_FTAPE is not set So... any suggestions??? Anyone else out there running this tape drive with this kernel? I am running 2.0.33 with ftape-3.04d, but I compiled both myself from source (ftape in /usr/local). I also used ftape-3.04d with 2.0.32 with no problems, however (also compiled from source.) No problems. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Question about network configuration
Hi everyone, Let me try my question again: I have installed Debian from my office (connected to the net through an ethernet card, to make it fast) and now transported the computer back home. During the installation I set up the network to use my ethernet card, but now I have to switch to PPP. How to do this? In my previous life (slackware) there was this utility called netconfig which made life easy. Is there any similar utility in Debian? If I have to do it by hand, what are the exact changes I have to make and what files are involved? Sorry if this is a FAQ or if I just did not read the manual careful enough... Thanks in advance: Zsolt Frei -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
tim wrote, On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote: unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb) I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went well. err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. I haven't even considered 4, after watching it bring a 400mhz, 350meg alpha to its knees . . . -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: tim wrote, On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote: unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be installed by the debian packages is 3.01. Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb) I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went well. err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages? I haven't even considered 4, after watching it bring a 400mhz, 350meg alpha to its knees . . . :-( Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: loging into NT
Jens, Do you already have a domain controller? If so, you can have samba authenticate using the NT domain controller. No, I don't have a domain controller. I just have the linux box (which mainly serves e-mail and some file sharing) and a Win 3.11 box that everybody uses with no access control. I'm going to put another machine with Windows now, and that's why I wanted to see if Linux had authentification, to see if I could save myself the hours of reconfiguration that the win 3.11 machine needs every couple of weeks because of ignorant users. entirely. NT is going to use X.500 directory services for it's user/passwords, domains, etc. As unbelievable as it is, they are going to replace their current crappy proprietary system with an actual ISO standard. Great news really. I never though that M$ was going to ease up things that way. Salutacions, Pere __o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_ http://casal.upc.es/~pere/ PGP key available --- (_)/ (_)Lo importante es el concepto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Sven Garbade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly. # LILO configuration file # # Start LILO global section lock boot = /dev/hda Try boot=/dev/hda2 You can get the old MBR back with fdisk /MBR (the fdisk from DOS) Partition table (fdisk): Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *11 204 411232+ 6 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 205 205 1022 16490885 Extended /dev/hda5 * 205 205 24582624+ 83 Linux native ^ | Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it should be hda2 2. I've installed XEmacs. The keys Backspace and Delete work both as Backspace. I'd like it, that Delete works as Control-D (^D). Try M-x load-library delbackspace, or insert (load delbackspace) in ~/.emacs - Sten Anderson PS. To subscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word subscribe in the body. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
gcc 2.8.0 and friends
A miracle has happened. For some inexplicable reason the FSF decided to release gcc 2.8.0 and libg++2.8.0, which I had been expecting for ages. Anyone know if it will be included in hamm before it freezes? Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
remco remarked, On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages? I believe that the only version that netscape installs is 3.01. Has this changed? (not to be confused with the netscape4 installer). -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, David Wright wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote: Peter Prohaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why `/dev/fd*'s are mounted at /floppy. When reading fsstnd, you would expect them to be mounted in /mnt/someting. Since /floppy is neither one of those un*x shorties nor used during installation I can't see why it lives on the root. The floppy drive not used during installation? Depends on how you install. I use floppy installation but I don't use /floppy. I assume the floppies don't actually get mounted during installation, so you have to type /dev/fd0. As there is a directory called /var/lib/dpkg/methods/floppy I anticipate the floppies to be mounted during install process. But I do like /floppy as I don't normally cd there, but I can type /ftab and that's it. I'm careful to preserve unique first letters for all the frequently used top level directories. In fact, only /bin, /boot, /lib and /var don't work this way (thanks to lost+found and the kernel link). But therefore most of them ( at least the important subdirs ) are privileged to get listed in an enviornment variable ;) thanks for your comments, peter. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: statically linked ls ???
If you need it because you screwed up libc so ls doesn't work but bash does then you can always use this alternative: echo * This will print all the files in the current directory since the shell will do the wildcard expansion. Yes, I have screwed up my own libc before! Xavier Bergade wrote: I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1 and lib/libc.so.5) Is there any binary already available? If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar) thanx. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: loging into NT
Pere Camps wrote: Jens, Do you already have a domain controller? If so, you can have samba authenticate using the NT domain controller. No, I don't have a domain controller. I just have the linux box (which mainly serves e-mail and some file sharing) and a Win 3.11 box that everybody uses with no access control. I'm going to put another machine with Windows now, and that's why I wanted to see if Linux had authentification, to see if I could save myself the hours of reconfiguration that the win 3.11 machine needs every couple of weeks because of ignorant users. Oh, ok, then you're situation isn't so bad. It certainly can do authentication. I was guessing that you're in the same boat I am where you have a hybrid environment which includes NT domains and you want them all to work together. If all you want is user authentication, samba can do that just fine. It can use your /etc/passwd or you can set up separate accounts. If you want help you can send me email and I'll help you get it going. I've been using Samba for years. entirely. NT is going to use X.500 directory services for it's user/passwords, domains, etc. As unbelievable as it is, they are going to replace their current crappy proprietary system with an actual ISO standard. Great news really. I never though that M$ was going to ease up things that way. Salutacions, Pere __o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_ http://casal.upc.es/~pere/ PGP key available --- (_)/ (_)Lo importante es el concepto -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
On 15 Jan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm and if I log out as root everything works fine again. What is causing this?? Thanks, Tim I had this same problem after I moved my system to a different hard drive. The problem has to do with the /dev/pty* devices. Try cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV as root... this spat out a few error messages for symlinked devices (/dev/cdrom, /dev/modem, /dev/mouse) but it fixed the problems with rxvt. -- David Huggins-Daines [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aix2.uottawa.ca/~s1204672 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Clean hamm installation
On 15-Jan-98 Ben Pfaff wrote: Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I need to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm. There aren't an hamm boot disks yet. You have to install bo, then upgrade. I wish that this were the case... Unfortunately, under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386/current, there are boot disks. I now understand that, but I didn't this weekend -- when I was installing Debian at home. So far, I will say that upgrading from libc5 to libc6 has required that I completely reinstall two systems (both of which had been going since just previous to Debian 1.1 days). I will not go into detail regarding the problems I had except to say that I didn't HAVE to reinstall, but it surprised me that even a relative Debian verteran was caught up so effectively - I really think that the unpgrade script may solve some of the troubles. Just had to get a load off - still think Debian is head-and- shoulders above the other distributions (besides, this time I could reinstall and feel good about setting up tripwire and a couple other security measures), Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs, X, and Alt key
Thomas E. Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My problem is that *neither* `Alt' key is being interpreted as `Meta' by emacs. AfterStep's `Alt-Tab' combination works well enough to switch between windows. I have commented out two lines in my XF86config like that: # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: LeftAlt Meta RightAltModeShift #RightCtlCompose #ScrollLock ModeLock Works for me. Greetings, jtr -- Joachim Trinkwitzemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIP-Pool Anglistik, Germanistik, phone: 0228-737565 Romanistik, Skandinavistik fax: 0228-737479 Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universitaet Am Hof 1d, D-53113 Bonn, Germany -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: loging into NT
Jens, work together. If all you want is user authentication, samba can do that just fine. It can use your /etc/passwd or you can set up separate accounts. If you want help you can send me email and I'll help you get it going. I've been using Samba for years. So WinNT users can log in windows with linux passwords (and then have minimum privileges)? That'll be great. Please do tell me how to do it. TIA. Salutacions, Pere __o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_ http://casal.upc.es/~pere/ PGP key available --- (_)/ (_)Lo importante es el concepto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: remco remarked, On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: err, I wasn't clear. The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01. Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages? I believe that the only version that netscape installs is 3.01. Has this changed? (not to be confused with the netscape4 installer). I just checked. It hasn't. Does anybody know what harm renaming the .tar.gz file can cause? I know it can go right, but can it go wrong? Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Hercules Stingray 128/3D
Hello ! Is the Hercules Stingray 128/3D, and its main graphics processor the Alliance ProMotion-AT3D, supported by any XWindow server ? Thanks for your help ! Sincerely, Alexander Skwar Wuppertal Germany -- E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check Out : http://www.digitalprojects.com PGP-KeyID : 0xA05119C7 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: gcc 2.8.0 and friends
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 05:34:23PM +0100, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: For some inexplicable reason the FSF decided to release gcc 2.8.0 and libg++2.8.0, which I had been expecting for ages. Anyone know if it will be included in hamm before it freezes? Rumor has it our gcc/egcc maintainer is currently very busy. I've reported the new gcc+friends (#17081, #17082), and I'm trying to do a non-maintainer release of gcc 2.8.0 for experimental. I've not yet seen a date for the code freeze, so there is a good change gcc 2.8.0 will make it in. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Monitor Specs for Xfree86
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Gregory Guthrie wrote: Gateway informs me that my GW2000 Vivitron 17 monitor is Hscan = 30-64 Vscan = 50-100 dot-pitch = .26 but that they have never heard of dot-clock. I haden't either. :-) There is at least one Xfree doc that talks about it extensively, but I don't remember which and I'm not home. As I understand it, the dot clock is literally the number of dots your video-card-generates/monitor-can-handle. Combine it with horizontal lines and vertical lines and you have refresh rate (I think, it's been a while). With most modern vide-card/monitor combinations the card can generate a signal quite a bit faster than the monitor can handle, in my case the card will do 220 and my monitor can't even handle 110 (required for resonable 1280x1024 refresh). Some people have told me that certain cables will limit you even more (which at 100+ MHz sounds credible to me) but others have told me this is wrong. I looked at some of the monitors pages at Xfree86, and they also don't list this. Any hints on what else to ask, or determine it? Dr. Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125 Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management (Maharishi International University 1971-1995) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Fast Network Terminal Graphics (gnuplot)
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. Greetings! So what's the most efficient mechanism for getting gnuplot graphics displayed across a telnet session without using X windows? Something beside the dumb terminal driver of gnuplot would be nice. Years ago, a friend helped me setup Tektronics terminal emulation under kermit, but I can't seem to get it working now. It just takes too long to get a gnuplot plot displayed under remote X across slow network connections. X compressors help somewhat, but still. Any ideas? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Camm Maguire == The earth is one country, and mankind its citizens. Baha'u'llah -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
printing problems
I'm having problems with a printserver that we thought we'd solved. Yesterday, I could get as far as being rejected by the server. Today, I'm getting connection to 'localhost' failed - Connection refused job 'cfA080eyry.econ.iastate.edu' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed I have PRINTER set to he183-lj5m I have lprng installed, and the /etc/printcap entry # queue lj5-1.heady (438) serves (via PRINT-1.IASTATE.EDU) #he183-lj5 (1724), a HP LaserJet 5MP in 183 Heady he183-lj5|lj5-1.heady:\ :rm=print-1.iastate.edu:\ :lp=:\ :rp=he183-lj5:\ :sd=/usr/spool:\ :bk: And since then, I've been added to the trusted hosts entry for the print server. As I read this file, i shouldn't be trying to connect to localhost, but to print-1.iastate.edu. And it was trying y esterday, and failing (as it wasn't a trusted host). DOes anyone have any hints? rick - -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. --- End of Forwarded Message -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Sten Anderson wrote: Sven Garbade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly. # LILO configuration file # # Start LILO global section lock boot = /dev/hda Try boot=/dev/hda2 You can get the old MBR back with fdisk /MBR (the fdisk from DOS) Partition table (fdisk): Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *11 204 411232+ 6 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 205 205 1022 16490885 Extended /dev/hda5 * 205 205 24582624+ 83 Linux native ^ | Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it should be hda2 Also. Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk. Not to mention you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux partition. Looks to me like your partition table is hosed up. Your cfdisk printout doesn't even show /dev/hda2. boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the partition. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: large drives with linux / LBA
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, rob wrote: Hello all, I am going to be using linux to set up a small intranet web server/mSQL DBserver for a client of mine and have a bit of concern about the system i have scoped to use. they have an old dx-33 with 20mb ram that isn't doing anything which should really be fine for what i'm thinking about setting up. (any concerns?) only problem is that it only has a 128MB drive in it that i would like to be at least a 540MB. of course i can't find anything smaller than a 1.6GB these days. Because the motherboard is an old VESA thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support LBA. if this is the case will it be a problem? is there something that i can do to get around this? am i going to have to upgrade the motherboard to something newer? (and then the video card too because i can't buy anything but PCI boards these days) we are trying to keep cost relatively low here. (non-profit organization) thanks for any suggestions, Yeah Buy the new drive, whatever size you can find, Install the new hard drive slaved to the old drive ... in the bios do not tell it that it has a newer hard drive in it ... use the old drive for swap and put lilo on it ... so the boot drive is the 128 and the root drive in on the new biger drive. this is basicly what I have done... it works ... -k rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
linux client dialing into WinNT RAS server
Hi, I'm trying to connect to my work's WinNT RAS server. During initial negotiations between the machines, I get this problem with the CHAP authentication: Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 asyncmap 0x0 auth chap msoft magic 0x420 pcomp accomp] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x0 auth chap msoft ] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x1 00 00 02 dc] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x1] Looks to me like my machine is rejecting the request to use Microsoft CHAP authentication. Is that correct? Has anyone else seen this? I'm using ppp-2.2.0f-23, and kernel v2.0.27. Thanks, -- Mark Mabry [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP public key on web page pgp9Hbmvy1tLo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: large drives with linux / LBA
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, rob wrote: smaller than a 1.6GB these days. Because the motherboard is an old VESA thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support LBA. if this is the case will it be a problem? is there something that i I have recently installed debian on an old DX2-66 motherboard which also would not read the LBA and in the DOS environment I had to overcome the problem with software. However, Linux did not have any problem identifying the 1.6GB Western Digital. Johann Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
perl5.004_0(x)
Is there a .deb of perl5.004_04 for Debian 1.3? Several things I've been trying to do are not working because I'm currently running perl5.003. I could build a new perl from source, but these are production machines and I like to keep them as clean as possible. I noticed that perl5.004 is available under hamm, but I really don't feel like upgrading my 2 main machines until it's been well tested. If there isn't a package for the newer perl is it possible for me to compile my own and just use the binary leaving the old libraries and such in place to be upgraded at a later date by dpkd? TIA, mike... Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: FTape
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Pure Energy wrote: Now i download ftape-2.0.30 try to install.. ... So... any suggestions??? Anyone else out there running this tape drive with this kernel? Hallo Rob, I am using ftape 3.04-beta with success with my Iomega Ditto 2Gb. The final version is available. It should be at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/tapes/ I do not know whether the debian version is up-to-date. Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Normally, I use ssh to give me an xterm where I can type commands as root. Before I had ssh, I would su to root and then execute this script, which I called 'getcookie': #!/bin/sh pushd /home/remco /dev/null if [ X$DISPLAY = X ] then DISPLAY=:0 fi su remco -c /usr/bin/X11/xauth nlist $DISPLAY | /usr/bin/X11/xauth nmerge - popd /dev/null Here, `remco' is my own username. Substitute it with yours. The pushd/popd commands are to make sure the commands executed by su have a readable 'current working directory' (/root has permissions 0700 on my system). Is there is any way to know which user invoked X11 to automatically insert the username in the above su line? Torsten -- I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. Fortune Cookie PGP Public key available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Clean hamm installation
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 10:07:33AM -0700, Paul Rightley wrote: On 15-Jan-98 Ben Pfaff wrote: Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I need to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm. There aren't an hamm boot disks yet. You have to install bo, then upgrade. I wish that this were the case... Unfortunately, under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386/current, there are boot disks. I now understand that, but I didn't this weekend -- uhm, if you look more carefully, you'll notice that the /ac121/linux/distributions/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/current is actually a link to: ../../../bo/disks-i386/current which are the bo disks. So in fact there are NO hamm disks (yet). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: perl5.004_0(x)
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 01:01:39PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a .deb of perl5.004_04 for Debian 1.3? Several things It has just been built. At the moment it's still sitting in our Incoming directory. It's named perl_5.004.04-2bo1.1_i386.deb. You're able to fetch the files from ftp://ftp.lh.umu.se/pub/linux/debian-Incoming/ ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/ ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-incoming/ I've built perl, too, but this version should be preferred. These versions will go into bo-unstable which should be visible on your favourite Debian mirror. Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? teardrop? newtear? bonk? boink? What comes next? Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / To-Zeilen in öffentlichen Nachrichten ist FidoNet-Technologie / / gröll^^ / / ... endlich 'mal wieder ein echt gelungener Witz!!! / / -- Rainer Scholz / pgpt110FaN2h4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: statically linked ls ???
Xavier Bergade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1 and lib/libc.so.5) Is there any binary already available? If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar) thanx. Here's instructions based on what I did to build this: Unpack the fileutils source tar with dpkg-source or tar, whatever you prefer. Then, cd fileutils-3.16 ./configure (cd intl; make libintl.a) (cd lib; make libfu.a) cd src perl -pie 's/^ls_LDFLAGS.*$/$ -static/' Makefile ## Or, if you don't like cryptic perl statements instead just edit the ## Makefile and find the line that begins with 'ls_LDFLAGS' and add ## '-static' to it. make ls There may be a configure option to compile static binaries, but I couldn't find one. What's annoying is that you have to edit a line in the Makefile for each program you want built statically. This would seem to defeat some of the reasons for having variables inside a Makefile. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
2 questions...
Ok, actually, I lied. Three. The first is: I haven't been getting any traffic from the list lately.. has something happened? For that reason, I'd appreciate a cc of any responses... First real question: I want to mount a directory on another system. How do I do this? I thought it would be in the mount man pages, but I guess I'm wrong. I assume that there must be something else out there I'm missing (I assume dealing with NFS) Second: As some of you know, I'm working on a control-a1 controller. I was searching through some old documents, and came up with this line: X \major{87}{}{char }{Sony Control-A1 stereo control bus} With some hunting, I found that it was part of patch-2.1.54... Can anyone give me any information on where to go from here? (I can't seemt to find any refrences to it... docs, people, etc, would be most helpful) Thanks, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
On 15 Jan, Ben Pfaff wrote: I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm and if I log out as root everything works fine again. Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the display, the user who started the session does. A quick fix (but insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root. A better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info. my apologies - i was rather tired when i sent this out... after i su to root i have an alias in bash that does two things: sets the DISPLAY variable and does an xauth merge. i also noticed that i can have up to three terms before the above problem kicks in... tnx, tim -- ## # # # # # # ## ## # # # # # Debian GNU Linux ## # # # # # # ## # ## # # # # Power to the people... # # # ## # # E-Mail: Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 2 questions...
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 02:23:43PM -0700, Mike Patterson wrote: Ok, actually, I lied. Three. The first is: I haven't been getting any traffic from the list lately.. has something happened? For that reason, I'd appreciate a cc of any responses... You're not subscribed anymore. I've put on on the list again. Seems your mailsystem was sending out bounces so the list server unsubscribed you. First real question: I want to mount a directory on another system. How do I do this? I thought it would be in the mount man pages, but I guess I'm wrong. I assume that there must be something else out there I'm missing (I assume dealing with NFS) Yep, nfs is good, you could use samba, too. On the server: edit /etc/exports start rpc.portmap (look at /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs) On the client either mount -s nfs server:/direc/tor/y /he/re or edit /etc/fstab. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / To-Zeilen in öffentlichen Nachrichten ist FidoNet-Technologie / / gröll^^ / / ... endlich 'mal wieder ein echt gelungener Witz!!! / / -- Rainer Scholz / pgp6VHS0pu6QS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: strange rvxt behaviour
On 16 Jan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm and if I log out as root everything works fine again. What is causing this?? Thanks, Tim I had this same problem after I moved my system to a different hard drive. The problem has to do with the /dev/pty* devices. Try cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV as root... this spat out a few error messages for symlinked devices (/dev/cdrom, /dev/modem, /dev/mouse) but it fixed the problems with rxvt. thanks David - that fixed it (actually I did MAKEDEV pt*) c ya Tim -- ## # # # # # # ## ## # # # # # Debian GNU Linux ## # # # # # # ## # ## # # # # Power to the people... # # # ## # # E-Mail: Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sten Anderson wrote: Sven Garbade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly. # LILO configuration file # # Start LILO global section lock boot = /dev/hda Try boot=/dev/hda2 You can get the old MBR back with fdisk /MBR (the fdisk from DOS) Partition table (fdisk): Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *11 204 411232+ 6 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 205 205 1022 16490885 Extended /dev/hda5 * 205 205 24582624+ 83 Linux native ^ | Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it should be hda2 Also. Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk. That is not a typo. The extended partition _includes_ the logical partitions. Here is a print of my _working_ disk layout (from linux fdisk) /dev/hda111 261 20964516 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 * 262 262 524 2112547+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 262 262 27072261 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 271 271 524 2040223+ 83 Linux native I have lilo in the bootsector of /dev/hda2 (an extended partition). Not to mention you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux partition. That is the correct way to do it according to the Lilo manual. You cannot put lilo in the bootsector of a logical partion. In that case lilo must reside in the bootsector of the enclosing extended partition. Looks to me like your partition table is hosed up. Your cfdisk printout doesn't even show /dev/hda2. boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the partition. You are mixing the concepts. /dev/hda is the MBR, not a bootsector. Lilo can reside in the MBR, but the Lilo manual warns against it. - Sten Anderson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Clean hamm installation
Yes, I understand very well NOW that there are no hamm disks yet. My point was that this upgrade of Debian is really expecting a lot of typical Debian users. At first glance, I thought that disks under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386 would actually belong to the unstable distribution. It is such slight perception that can really make things difficult for most users. For instance, Scott Ellis' Mini-HOWTO is very good - I followed all of the portions of it that called out specific packages and that didn't seem like suggestions (as opposed to necessary steps). In this case, I did not upgrade libgdm1 and perl and due to another (slight) circumstance, was left with an unusable system after I launched dselect. The crux of my statement was to say that I have used Debian a long time. I keep up (pretty much) with debian-user. And yet, I was stung HARD by the upgrade to unstable. I do not want to imply that I feel wronged - it IS unstable after all. I am just trying to say that this upgrade has a long way to go before it doesn't turn off a lot of typical Linux/Debian users. I still tell everyone that Debian is the greatest Linux distribution. Paul On 16-Jan-98 Norbert Veber wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 10:07:33AM -0700, Paul Rightley wrote: On 15-Jan-98 Ben Pfaff wrote: Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I need to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm. There aren't an hamm boot disks yet. You have to install bo, then upgrade. I wish that this were the case... Unfortunately, under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386/current, there are boot disks. I now understand that, but I didn't this weekend -- uhm, if you look more carefully, you'll notice that the /ac121/linux/distributions/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/current is actually a link to: ../../../bo/disks-i386/current which are the bo disks. So in fact there are NO hamm disks (yet). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Staroffice 3.1 core-dumps.
Running a Hamm system that is about a week old since the last update. Quick hack to make it work rename /usr/X11R6/lib to /usr/X11R6/libx run the staroffice setup rename /usr/X11R6/libx to /usr/X11R6/lib Would there be anything wrong with just making a symbolic link? And leaveing it there (in case there are any other hair-brained apps looking for a funny lib The problem is that the setup program is finding the xlib6g libs there, which causes it a problem since it needs the regular xlib6 libs. Renaming the directory moves the xlib6g stuff completely out of ld.so's path. This will, of course, break running new X stuff until the directory is put back, but it allows the setup program to find the correct libraries in /usr/lib/libc5-compat I see... So is there no permanent solution to the problem allowing libc5 dependant stuff like the setup program to find the right libs? And out of curiosity. why don't the actual apps (swriter for example) not have this problem? Cheers Neilen -- E-Mail: Neilen Marais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16-Jan-98 Time: 21:45:16 This message was sent by XFMail -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Perl 5.004.04-3 Coredump problem SOLVED!!!
HI all You might remember me moaning about adduser and some other things breaking when I upgrade from the bo perl 5.003summin to the newest hamm perl. I did not get much helpful respone, because I assume the problem is rather obscure. So I did a bit of investigating, and I seem to have narrowed down the problem to the libraries perl is trying to use. If I type ldd perl5.00404 I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ ldd /usr/bin/perl5.00404 libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4000f000) libgdbm.so.1 = /opt/kde/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x40015000) libdb.so.2 = /lib/libdb.so.2 (0x4001b000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40029000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4002c000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40045000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40116000) Now the libc5 bit must obviously be wrong... So I thaught, perhaps it had something to do with libcrypt.so.1 using libc5, but if I type ldd libctrypt.so.1 I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ ldd /lib/libcrypt.so.1 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4003) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x) which to me looks quite peachy But then, spurred on by writing this E-Mail, I suddenly find the solution Looking at the ldd perl bit I see libgdbm.so.1 = /opt/kde/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x40015000) /opt/kde/lib?? How dit THAT happen? Anyway, check /etc/ld.so.conf, nothing there. Do set | grep LD, and VOILA sp?, it was set in my LDCONFIG. Now of course I had no idea that the env var was looked at before ld.so.conf, or why on EARTH the kde package includes a libgdbm.so.1!! Well, at least I learnt something today :) (actually stricty speaking yesterday as it was just midnight) As you might guess, this is the deb package done by KDE, not the debian one, which I installed because I was still using bo at the time. And since most people do I assume run the Debian KDE package (if they run KDE), they never ran accross this problem. I solved the problem by removing /opt/kde/lib from LDCONFIG, and putting it at the end of /etc/ld.so.conf. On another note, while this might not be a terribly common problem, perhaps the maintainer of the libc5 to libc6 mini-HOWTO would like to add the possibility of, and solution to this problem to it? Cheers Neilen (Happier Debian user than ever :) -- E-Mail: Neilen Marais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16-Jan-98 Time: 23:34:29 This message was sent by XFMail -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
applixware 4.3 install on debian system
I am wanting to install applixware 4.3 on my debian system and would like some advice as the best way to approach it. should i use alien to convert the rpm packages or just run the install script or what? what has proved successful for others? thanx, tim -- ## # # # # # # ## ## # # # # # Debian GNU Linux ## # # # # # # ## # ## # # # # Power to the people... # # # ## # # E-Mail: Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Sten Anderson wrote: Also. Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk. That is not a typo. The extended partition _includes_ the logical partitions. You got me there. I had a damned brain cramp. Here is a print of my _working_ disk layout (from linux fdisk) /dev/hda111 261 20964516 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 * 262 262 524 2112547+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 262 262 27072261 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 271 271 524 2040223+ 83 Linux native I have lilo in the bootsector of /dev/hda2 (an extended partition). Not to mention you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux partition. That is the correct way to do it according to the Lilo manual. You cannot put lilo in the bootsector of a logical partion. In that case lilo must reside in the bootsector of the enclosing extended partition. You're 100% right. I would, however, assume it means a Linux extended (type 85) partition not a DOS extended partition (type 5). boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the partition. You are mixing the concepts. /dev/hda is the MBR, not a bootsector. Lilo can reside in the MBR, but the Lilo manual warns against it. Got me again. I guess I wasn't awake when I wrote that. Just a heads up, since I can't find the doc I read it in, that I read someplace, long time ago, might not even apply any more, that it isn't a good idea to make your root file system an extended partition. I assumed this refered to extended partitions not being bootable, but I'm fuzzy on the subject. Evidently fuzzy on a lot of things today. I don't understand why anybody would want to put a *Linux* *primary* partition inside a *DOS* *extended* partition anyway. The idea sends me some real negitive vibs. Maybe totally unfounded. If there's some advantage to this could somebody let me know what it is? I may find a need for a similar setup in the future. BTW. Putting lilo in the MBR isn't advised against, it just means you have to restore the MBR if you ever uninstall lilo. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Rather than renaming netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar so that you can use the .deb installer for the netscape 3 version, it's fairly simple to hack the 3 netscape related install files in /var/lib/dpkg/info. Simply search for all instances of 301 and change it to 304, then do the same with the Packages.contrib file. (As always, keep an original copy of the file you're about to edit in case something goes wrong). I did exactly this and got a clean install of netscape-v304 with no complaints from dpkg. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Clean hamm installation
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 03:15:14PM -0700, Paul Rightley wrote: Yes, I understand very well NOW that there are no hamm disks yet. My point was that this upgrade of Debian is really expecting a lot of typical Debian users. At first glance, I thought that disks under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386 would actually belong to the unstable distribution. It is such slight perception that can really make things difficult for most users. For instance, Scott Ellis' Mini-HOWTO is very good - I followed all of the portions of it that called out specific packages and that didn't seem like suggestions (as opposed to necessary steps). In this case, I did not upgrade libgdm1 and perl and due to another (slight) circumstance, was left with an unusable system after I launched dselect. Did you ever use --force-blah with dpkg? Was it ever possible to hose your system without using --force-blah? I upgraded my system before Scott's HOWTO was written; at that stage it was fairly simple and all the dependencies seemed to prevent me from doing anything wrong. IIRC, it was basically a case of installing new ld.so, removing the libc5 -dev libraries, installing libc6, installing the hamm non-g libraries, then installing the hamm g libraries, then anything else, like bash. For a while I only upgraded the libraries (just to support running new libc6 stuff from hamm), not bothering with existing packages. Never any sign of trouble. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: linux client dialing into WinNT RAS server
Mark H. Mabry wrote: Hi, I'm trying to connect to my work's WinNT RAS server. During initial negotiations between the machines, I get this problem with the CHAP authentication: How surprising (but read on). Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 asyncmap 0x0 auth chap msoft magic 0x420 pcomp accomp] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x0 auth chap msoft ] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x1 00 00 02 dc] Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x1] Looks to me like my machine is rejecting the request to use Microsoft CHAP authentication. Is that correct? Has anyone else seen this? This is indeed correct. I believe the latest HAMM ppp package includes support for ms-chap. If you like to run stable software though and still have bo (I do) then there *is* a solution. If you're using the RAS which came with NT 4.0 (even if you have Service Pak 3) NT you may have to get into the registry. But first you can try the following. You need to set your ppp options so that pap authentication is possible. I use something like the following command line: /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 38400 user DOMAIN\\username crtscts lock modem connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -t 120 ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' '' ATZ OK ATE0V1 OK ATDT555-1212 CONNECT Note that I use DOMAIN\\username for the 'user' parameter because I'm logging into an NT box that wants me to log on as a domain user. If your user is defined locally then you don't need to DOMAIN\\ part. You will also need to add your password to the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. You'll need a line like: DOMAIN\\user * password When you dial in thus to the NT box you'll get logs like: Jan 14 17:19:20 chilin pppd[22286]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 magic 0 xf2c0d760 pcomp accomp] Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 asyncmap 0x0 aut h chap msoft magic 0x7f95 pcomp accomp] Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x0 auth pap] Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 magic 0 xf2c0d760 pcomp accomp] Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 aut h pap magic 0x7f95 pcomp accomp] Note how this time the client ConfNak's, suggesting instead auth pap? That's the stuff you're after. If this doesn't work, you probably have to modify the registry on the NT box to effectively disable ms-chap. Start up regedt32 and go to \\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\RasMan\PPP. There you'll see two values, ForceEncryptedPassword and ForceStrongEncryption. Set them both to zero. Then try again. If that doesn't do the trick. Go back to the same spot in the registry. There should be a subkey there called CHAP. Delete the whole subkey. Then try again. Make sure you stop/start the RAS service after you change settings in the registry. This should work. Note that there is an article in the M$ Knowledge Base. You should look it up on their web page for more in depth info on the problem. I'm using ppp-2.2.0f-23, and kernel v2.0.27. Thanks, -- Mark Mabry [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP public key on web page Part 1.2 Type: application/pgp-signature -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're 100% right. I would, however, assume it means a Linux extended (type 85) partition not a DOS extended partition (type 5). Now I am confused. What is the difference? Just a heads up, since I can't find the doc I read it in, that I read someplace, long time ago, might not even apply any more, that it isn't a good idea to make your root file system an extended partition. I assumed this refered to extended partitions not being bootable, but I'm fuzzy on the subject. Evidently fuzzy on a lot of things today. When you say make root FS an extended partition you really mean a logical partition dont you? (You cannot put a filesystem on an extended partition). I also vaguely remember debates on this issue. IIRC the conclusion was that to Linux there is no difference. All Linux needs to know is where the partitions begins and ends. The distinction between logical and physical partitions only matters to the bootloader (and hey, it works for me!). There is an issue on the bootable thing though. A physical partition can be maded bootable, but not a logical partion. In that case you need to use the bootsector for the extended partition. I don't understand why anybody would want to put a *Linux* *primary* partition inside a *DOS* *extended* partition anyway. The idea sends me some real negitive vibs. Maybe totally unfounded. If there's some advantage to this could somebody let me know what it is? I may find a need for a similar setup in the future. The only reason to use extended partitions is that most OS's don't like more than 4 partitions. Like I said above, Linux doesn't care if the partitions are logical or physical. - Sten Anderson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hamm screen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Regarding Re: hamm screen of 12:07 PM + 1/15/98, Norbert Veber wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 04:52:01PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 08:23:23PM +, Norbert Veber wrote: I am having a strange problem with the hamm version of screen, it works fine for root, but when any other user tries to run it, it just 'freezes' as in: [EMAIL PROTECTED] screen it just sits there for ever, not error message, nothing. Permissions correct on /tmp? (drwxrwxrwxt). screen creates some sockets in /tmp I believe. I'm using 3.7.4-3 here and it seems to be fine. yes, they are: drwxrwxrwt 3 root root 4096 Jan 15 12:02 tmp I use 3.7.4-4, I've noticed that it does not make any files in /tmp even when I run it as root. - From /usr/doc/screen/changelog.Debian.gz. screen (3.7.4-4) unstable; urgency=low * Changed upstream changelog name (ChangeLog.gz - changelog.gz) * Changed sockets from /tmp to /var/run (closes:Bug#6487) * New Standards-Version: 2.3.0.1 * Changed behaviour of backspace key (now sends `DEL' == 0177) -- Juan Cespedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:13:51 +0100 - -- Joel Espy Klecker Debian GNU/Linux Developermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.espy.org/http://www.debian.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNL/xZAoYIlYX1XaBAQF9ywP+Ls9qy61tzK7nlPVMDbsosW7cg2SsJHeW zKEkY+6s7m+NgjQ2bfCC+q1aBlP5w7qE9BpglnxrZbcdXT6+UvW1t66qD4nWQufW admQNpawUvdKG3JPeHGMnZwBTTc7wuI+3Ucd3McXhqtEkeqJjfgYsZEjfVNd/Aub 4RvXpPS0nm8= =i8qA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Can't ftp to ftp.debian.org
When I try to connect to ftp.debian.org I get the following messages. bash-2.01$ ftp ftp.debian.org Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ftp I know there was a problem with spam on the lists recently. Are these sites blocking connection attempts that come from locations with a numeric IP address now. When I connect to other sites it shows me connecting as my static IP address. I can ftp to all other places I have tried but cannot connect to ftp.debian.org or master.debian.org. I installed the ipmasq package arounf the time I started having these problems but completly purged this package thinking that it was my problem. The only other difference might be that I installed xinetd around the same time. The problems started about 1 week before Christmas. Any help would be appreciated. Dale Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. I plan to become a devloper again in the near future but will not be able to if I cannot connect to my account on master.debian.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .