Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Sir you are missing the point. Stop confusing the guy. What you're
 saying is based upon an assumption that this trick would be used
 whenever root logged in. Now why would that be necessary? If you log
 into xdm as root you won't *need* to futz with this stuff because xdm
 will have already set it up for you. The *only* reason he'd be doing
 this is because he su'd to root while logged in as another user. Note
 that I told him to do this *after* he su'd to root. In this case,
 .Xauthority will not be written to, only read. And, why the hell would
 he want to use ssh? He's doing this on the same frigging machine. He
 said he logged in with xdm right? Damn it I hate it when people spread
 disinformation like this. 

I am sorry if I confused anyone. I assumed that he would get tired of
always typing in the same commands every time he does a `su' and that he
would put the 'export...' command in root's .bashrc or something like
that. If he would do that, there would be a risk that the .Xauthority file
would be written by root some day.

I find the method with ssh the most convenient one for getting a root
xterm on the localhost. I only have to click the menu and type the root
password and everything is set up correctly. Do you know of another way
that is this simple to use?

Oh, and could you wrap your lines at something below 80 characters? Long
lines in e-mail messages are also confusing. :-)

Remco


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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Tim
On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote:
 
 unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be 
 installed by the debian packages is 3.01.
 

Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I
got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had
used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb)
I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went
well.

Tim

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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 snip
  Don't do that. The minute root writes to that file (when root logs in to X
  or uses the xauth command), it becomes owned by root and the user can't
  log in to X anymore.
 
  What you could do is using ssh. This command will do the trick:
 
  xterm -title Root -n Root -e ssh -l root localhost
 
  You can add it to a Fvwm(1,2,2-95) menu or button bar.
 
  ssh will take care of X forwarding automatically, no matter if you
  'connect' to the localhost or another host. In any ssh session, you can
  simply do something like xterm  and the window will appear on the local
  screen.

 Sir you are missing the point. Stop confusing the guy. What you're
 saying is based upon an assumption that this trick would be used
 whenever root logged in. Now why would that be necessary? If you log
 into xdm as root you won't *need* to futz with this stuff because
 xdm will have already set it up for you. The *only* reason he'd be
 doing this is because he su'd to root while logged in as another
 user. Note that I told him to do this *after* he su'd to root. In
 this case, .Xauthority will not be written to, only read.

Assuming, of course, that root never uses the xauth command.  While
this may be a safe assumption most of the time, it isn't always.
Also, there are other circumstances in which entries are added to the
~/.Xauthority file - I haven't quite tracked them down, but both my
root ~/.Xauthority file and my user's ~/.Xauthority file contains
several entries of the form:
ppp83.hcf.jhu.edu:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  digits

I obtain ip addresses automatically when I dial up via ppp; several
(though not all) recent IP addresses show up in lines like this.  I
never put these there explicitly with xauth; however, they seem to
accumulate which makes me think that something will write to
$XAUTHORITY without direct intervention.  I believe this validates
Remco's concern about root writing a user's .Xauthority.

   And, why
 the hell would he want to use ssh? He's doing this on the same
 frigging machine. He said he logged in with xdm right? Damn it I
 hate it when people spread disinformation like this.

It appears to me that in your rush to condemn Remco for not
understanding what was going on you failed to realize what a usable,
general, and elegant solution this root xterm is to the usual annoyance 
of doing X stuff as root.  (and there's no danger of root ever writing 
to ~user/.Xauthority)  Further, the command line given is aimed very
clearly at a user trying to do root things on the same machine he's
sitting at - ssh may be overkill, but there's not anything less
comprehensive that handles Xauthority forwarding.  My assumption is
that you saw ssh and missed the localhost.

That Remco responded as civily as he did is one of the things that
continues to amaze me about this list.


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large drives with linux / LBA

1998-01-16 Thread rob

Hello all,

I am going to be using linux to set up a small intranet web server/mSQL 
DBserver for a client of mine and have a bit of concern about the system i 
have scoped to use.  they have an old dx-33 with 20mb ram that isn't doing 
anything which should really be fine for what i'm thinking about setting 
up.  (any concerns?) only problem is that it only has a 128MB drive in it 
that i would like to be at least a 540MB.  of course i can't find anything 
smaller than a 1.6GB these days.  Because the motherboard is an old VESA 
thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support 
LBA.  if this is the case will it be a problem?  is there something that i 
can do to get around this?  am i going to have to upgrade the motherboard 
to something newer? (and then the video card too because i can't buy 
anything but PCI boards these days)  we are trying to keep cost relatively 
low here. (non-profit organization)

thanks for any suggestions,

rob 


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Re: Whiney little request

1998-01-16 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Joost Kooij wrote:

 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:45:32 +0100 (CET)
 From: Joost Kooij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Richard Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Whiney little request
 Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:53:40 +
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
 
 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Richard Wicks wrote:
 
  P.S.  I've just installed debian (good riddance to slackware) and beleive I
encountered a bug when trying to install netscape.  Did anybody else
have a similar problem?  I kept getting an error where dselect told
me that the the netscape.tar.gz file should be in my /tmp directory.
Does this sound familar to anybody?  In anycase, netscape did not 
  install
so I picked it up from the netscape website via lynx.
 
 The netscape package that comes with debian is only an installer/wrapper.
 Before you install it, you need to have the netscape tarball in /tmp (or
 $TEMPDIR). 
 
 Besides installing the netscape binaries in the right places and
 registering it to the package management system, the debian package also
 provides a wrapper for netscape to ensure that it doesn't crash because of
 version conflicts with your system libraries.

and where is netscape installer in hamm ?

regards

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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

 Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Sir you are missing the point. Stop confusing the guy.
snip
 
 Assuming, of course, that root never uses the xauth command.
snip

I already got a mail from Jens containing phrases like good point etc. I
think either he just misunderstood me or I didn't make myself clear enough
the first time.

And, why
  the hell would he want to use ssh? He's doing this on the same
  frigging machine. He said he logged in with xdm right? Damn it I
  hate it when people spread disinformation like this.
 
 It appears to me that in your rush to condemn Remco for not
 understanding what was going on you failed to realize what a usable,
 general, and elegant solution this root xterm is to the usual annoyance 
 of doing X stuff as root.  (and there's no danger of root ever writing 
 to ~user/.Xauthority)  Further, the command line given is aimed very
 clearly at a user trying to do root things on the same machine he's
 sitting at - ssh may be overkill, but there's not anything less
 comprehensive that handles Xauthority forwarding.  My assumption is
 that you saw ssh and missed the localhost.

That was exactly my point. ssh _is_ overkill, but it is the only _useable_
tool.

 That Remco responded as civily as he did is one of the things that
 continues to amaze me about this list.

Thanks. I think that this is a very polite list that gives a reasonable
answer to any reasonable question, even for non-Debian issues. Like I said
before (on this list or another?), the Debian community is very fortunate
to have such a list.

Remco


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Re: Whiney little request

1998-01-16 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
  Besides installing the netscape binaries in the right places and
  registering it to the package management system, the debian package also
  provides a wrapper for netscape to ensure that it doesn't crash because of
  version conflicts with your system libraries.

 and where is netscape installer in hamm ?
 

It's the package Netscape, either 3.1 or 4.03(?).  put the netscape .tgz in 
/tmp, then instlall the netscape package



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Re: Whiney little request

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Joost Kooij wrote:
 
  The netscape package that comes with debian is only an installer/wrapper.
  Before you install it, you need to have the netscape tarball in /tmp (or
  $TEMPDIR). 
  
  Besides installing the netscape binaries in the right places and
  registering it to the package management system, the debian package also
  provides a wrapper for netscape to ensure that it doesn't crash because of
  version conflicts with your system libraries.
 
 and where is netscape installer in hamm ?

It's in the contrib/web section. That's in
debian-root/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/web .

Please do not use the names 'hamm' and 'bo' when you want to point dselect
at them. Instead, use stable, contrib and non-free for bo and
dists/unstable/main, dists/unstable/contrib and dists/unstable/non-free
for hamm. The latter syntax will become the standard for the stable Debian
2.0 too, AFAIK.

Remco


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Re: Whiney little request

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

[about the netscape installer]
 It's in the contrib/web section. That's in
 debian-root/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/web .

I forgot to mention that the package name has changed, too. There now is a
netscape3 package and a netscape4 package. But you can only install one of
them, as they conflict with each other.

Remco


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Re: large drives with linux / LBA

1998-01-16 Thread Sten Anderson
rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Because the motherboard is an old VESA 
 thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support 
 LBA.  if this is the case will it be a problem?  is there something that i 
 can do to get around this?  am i going to have to upgrade the motherboard 
 to something newer? 

Linux doesn't have a problem with this setup. Linux doesn't use BIOS
functions, thus Linux can easily access the entire drive. Lilo - the
bootloader - might have problems. Lilo uses BIOS functions to load the 
kernel from the disk, thus the kernel must reside on a physical
location on the disk that is reachable by BIOS functions, i.e. within
the first N sectors (N=1024 IIRC). This is easily obtained by
partitioning the disk and putting the kernel on the first
partition. The rest of the Linux installation can reside anywhere on
the disk.

- Sten Anderson

  


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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread tko
I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I
went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find
it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and
checked the variables (as suggested) :

XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority

I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I
change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and
change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ?

I see this Xauthority problem as a security hole and want to close it before
jumping online.

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Re: hamm screen

1998-01-16 Thread bhmit1
What does: strace screen report? ... aw shucks, strace doesn't work
suid.  Wait a minute, does ls -al /usr/bin/screen report:

-rwsr-xr-x   1 root root   177788 Oct 10 20:18 /usr/bin/screen

Brandon

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strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread Tim

I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in
X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger
able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that
rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm
and if I log out as root everything works fine again.

What is causing this??

Thanks,
Tim

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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I
 went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find
 it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and
 checked the variables (as suggested) :
 
 XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority
 
 I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I
 change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and
 change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ?

This will NOT work. You must use the fully expansion of ~ in that
statement. I use:

export XAUTHORITY=/home/jgg/.Xauthority

I'm sure that some sh wizard can give you an incantation that will
automatically expand ~ to it's full path.

Incidently, if you put that in the proper place a root shell 'su'-d to
will be able to use your X server.

Jason
Hopeing this mail goes through since our firewall just died a brutal
painfull death and now I am on ppp :


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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in
   X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger
   able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that
   rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm
   and if I log out as root everything works fine again.

Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the
display, the user who started the session does.  A quick fix (but
insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root.  A
better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info.


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CD-RW drives

1998-01-16 Thread Martin Jackson
Does anyone know if recent Linux kernel versions support CD-RW drives, such
as the HP 7110I?

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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I
 went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find
 it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and
 checked the variables (as suggested) :
 
 XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority
 
 I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I
 change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and
 change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ?
 
 I see this Xauthority problem as a security hole and want to close it before
 jumping online.

If you have something like

declare -x XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority

in /etc/profile, you can safely remove it. $HOME/.Xauthority is the
default place for this file and there is no security hole in not setting
this variable. Note that the file must have permissions 0600 if you care
about security.

Remco


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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On 15 Jan 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:

I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in
X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger
able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that
rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm
and if I log out as root everything works fine again.
 
 Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the
 display, the user who started the session does.  A quick fix (but
 insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root.  A
 better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info.

With the default setup for X in hamm, the xhost command is useless and
should not be used.

I think it is very strange that it happens in an rxvt and not in an xterm.

Normally, I use ssh to give me an xterm where I can type commands as root.
Before I had ssh, I would su to root and then execute this script, which
I called 'getcookie':

#!/bin/sh
pushd /home/remco /dev/null
if [ X$DISPLAY = X ]
then
   DISPLAY=:0
fi
su remco -c /usr/bin/X11/xauth nlist $DISPLAY | /usr/bin/X11/xauth nmerge -
popd /dev/null

Here, `remco' is my own username. Substitute it with yours. The pushd/popd
commands are to make sure the commands executed by su have a readable
'current working directory' (/root has permissions 0700 on my system).

Remco


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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes:

 Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the
 display, the user who started the session does.  A quick fix (but
 insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root.  A
 better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info.

A useful trick is to set the XAUTHORITY environment variable.  For example,

$ XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority
$ export XAUTHORITY

or in csh

% setenv XAUTHORITY $HOME/.Xauthority

Now when you use su, the XAUTHORITY variable still points to the correct
file and you can access the display.  Note that `su -l' does not work,
since the XAUTHORITY environment variable is unset.

Brian


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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread bhmit1
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I
 went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find
 it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and
 checked the variables (as suggested) :

ssh uses crypto, so it's on a non-us mirror (there's a readme.nonus on
the ftp sites I think).

 XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority

[EMAIL PROTECTED](p2):checklist$ ls ~$USER/.ssh
ls: ~bhmit1/.ssh: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED](p2):checklist$ ls `expr ~$USER/.ssh`
ls: ~bhmit1/.ssh: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED](p2):checklist$ ls `eval ~$USER/.ssh`
bash: /home/bhmit1/.ssh: is a directory
...

Third time's the charm.  Note those are back ticks.  The $HOME solution is
just as good, if not better.

 I see this Xauthority problem as a security hole and want to close it before
 jumping online.

I wish my school thought this way.  Although it makes it possible for fun
scripts like grabbing a screen shot and displaying it, they get confused
when non of the windows work anymore and the mouse doesn't pull up menus
in the background :-)

Brandon

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Re: [Q] ~/.xinitrc is not being read

1998-01-16 Thread Todd 'Snoopy' Harper
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:05:04PM -0500, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote:
  I use now xdm to login into the system -- however
  it seems like my ~/.xinitrc is being ignored.
 
 .xinitrc is used for startx, and .xsession is used for xdm logins.
 I symlink them together here for convenience.

Actually, the symlink isn't necessary; just the .xsession .  With a
stock
startx, and system xinitrc and Xsession files, startx will (eventually) 
call your .xsession (assuming it exists, .xinitrc does not, and
/etc/config
has allow-user-xsession set).

I discovered this when I was having problems with startx not loading any
Xresources.


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CDROM mount locking up

1998-01-16 Thread Tim Thomson
Hi,
I am having trouble with a Mitsumi CDROM, that is connected to a Mad16
card (software configurable).
When mounting a disk, the mount seems to lock up. I think this is because
I haven't set it up properly yet.
What I'm wondering is, is there a way to kill off the mount?
It halts after saying something about the disk is write protected, so it's
mounted read only.
I can't kill the mount, but if I shutdown the system, it can't unmount
root, as it's busy.

Is it possible to kill this mount, cause it's a pain not been able to
cleanly unmount the hard drive. It may take me some time to work out what
I'm doing wrong.

Thanks for any help,

Tim.

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mount of linked /usr halts nfs on whole network

1998-01-16 Thread Jameson Burt
When mounting /usr over a link, we locked our Debian Linux and ended all 
network mounts for Linux SunOS and Solaris.

For two years, we have tailored RedHat Linux. We boot up with a minimal /usr.  
We then mount a large Linux /usr directory from a Sun's disk drive.  We use 
this /usr in common on several Linux computers.  More specifically, we have on 
each RedHat Linux computer
/usr  -- /usr-mounts/usr
/usr-mounts/usr -- /usr-at-boot   [the minimal /usr during boot]
When booting finishes, we mount the full /usr,
mount -type nfs  cramer:/export/redhat-linux/usr /usr-mounts/usr  
We usually did this via amd.  Indeed, amd is the whole reason for the 
complexity, since amd takes over whole directory structures including the 
parent directory, so we could not use amd to automount /usr.  This all worked 
well with RedHat.

Removing Redhat Linux from one computer, we installed from scratch Debian 
Linux. We tried the same arrangement as for RedHat above, including
mount -type nfs cramer:/export/debian-linux/usr /usr-mounts/usr
We tried five times, getting the same response.
We locked our Debian Linux operating system;
and the Sun computer (cramer) from which we mounted would no longer accept 
mounts, then all computers which subsequently tried mounts off this Sun 
(cramer) would lock their immediate xterm window.  The Sun problems would 
clear only when we rebooted the initial Sun computer (cramer).

Since RedHat Linux continues to work well in this scheme, I do not believe our 
Sun computer is at fault, though I am disappointed at its frailty.

For each time we tried the above Debian Linux scheme,  before we tried the 
remote mount of /usr, we installed Debian Linux up through the hamm update.  
We followed the libc5-to-libc6 recommendations, so the kernel was 2.0.30.

Does anyone know:
1. What might cause our Debian mount of /usr to network-wide ruin nfs?
2. Since sharing /usr this way is involuted, is there a better way to share 
/usr between several Debian Linux computers?

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Re: Linux IPX configuration.

1998-01-16 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
  BUT slist reports
  sometimes this
  infinito# slist: Unknown code  255 in ncp_initialize
 
 This usually occurs when ncpfs doesn't think IPX knows any routes,
 eg before the auto_primary stuff has taken effect, although it seems
 to have already from the proc files you've shown.
 
 Perhaps ncpfs doesn't support tr devices? There's no reason why it
 shouldn't, but maybe the support just hasn't been written. Contact
 the ncpfs author to find out for sure, or the appropriate mailing
 list if there is one.
 

I have two linux boxes on differents subnets. Both have similiar setup (I
don't have tr devices). One runs without problems. When I upgraded kernel
from 2.0.30 to 2.0.32 (on both) on second slist gives me incorrrect list - to
short - only 40 servers (this a magic number?). Only some count of answers
(below %10) gives me real list ~100 servers. 
I do test 1000*slist. I got
  23 answers with ~100 servers
   1 answer with 30 servers
   2 answers with: Unknown code  255 in ncp_initialize
and
  1000-(23-1-2) answers with 40 servers
:)

I mirror some files from one netware server (my script with ncpmount witch
was OK). Whith recent problems I have checked my script:
  %5 answers: Unknown code  255 in ncp_initialize
  %93 answers: ncpmount: Server Unknown when trying to find CI-1
  %1 OK
:)

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Strange...

1998-01-16 Thread Sébastien Phélep
Hi all !

First, I'd like to thank every people in this mailing list who helped me
configuring my Debian/Gnu Linux network (35 PCs + a server running great
!).

I've noticed a strange message sometimes when I read root's mail on my
server:
1) I read mail (with mail)
2) I delete all the messages
3) I quit mail
4) I encounter a Thou hast new mail message !

In fact there are no more messages for root...
Although it causes no harm, I'd like to know where it comes from.
Is it a biff/mail bug ?

Seb.

PS: I run Debian 1.3.1 on my machines


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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Tim Thomson
  unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be 
  installed by the debian packages is 3.01.

Can the Debian package be updated? It's a bit of a pain using a version of
Netscape that isn't (closer to) current. I guess it probably doesn't
matter now we have hamm, but it would still be nice  :-)
What about installing Netscape in /usr/local/?
Is Netscape 3.01 installed by Debian better than Netscape 3.04 installed
in /usr/local?

I already downloaded 3.04, don't really want to get an older version!

Actually, I installed 3.04 with the Debian package - just to see what
would happen, but I think I will uninstall it and put it in /usr/local.

Any ideas?
Thanks,

Tim.

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Taper settings w/ Exabyte 8505

1998-01-16 Thread Sébastien Phélep
Hi,

I'd like to know if anybody knows how to make taper work correctly with
an Exabyte 8505 streamer (or whatever you call it:-)).
My only problem is that I cannot use the can seek functionnality (if I
use it, taper doesn't seem to be able to retrieve the good block; I
guess my block-size settings are not correct), although someone told me
that this drive could handle it.

As I don't have any documentation for this drive, I'm not sure it's
true.
Here's the result of cat /proc/scsi/scsi; if someone has the same drive
and know what settings are needed with taper, please give me a hand:

Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: EXABYTE Model: EXB-85058HE- Rev: 0085
  Type: Sequential access ANSI SCSI revision: 2

Here are my settings (Tape drive preferences):

Rewinding device: /dev/st0
Non-rewinding device: /dev/nst0
Have fast fsf: YES
Can seek: NO (w/ taper, SCSI defaults to YES)
Set block size: NO
Get block size: NO
Block size: 028K
Need to erase tapes: NO
Tape size in MB: 0 (If use anything else, taper doesn't work:()

Please note: I _can_ make backups and I _can_ restore them; I just
cannot use taper's can seek functionnality.

Suggestions anybody ?

Thanks,
Seb.


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Cron for NT

1998-01-16 Thread John Fotiadis/SYBASE Greece
Does anyone know any cron program for NT 4.0 Server ?

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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Sébastien Phélep
Tim Thomson wrote:
 What about installing Netscape in /usr/local/?

I guess it would not follow the FSTND/Debian's politic.
Normally, Debian packages are installed in the /usr directories;
/usr/local is left for local/non-debian applications.
However, you can install Netscape 4 wherever you want: you just have to
set the MOZILLA_HOME environment variable to tell it where's its home
dir.

 Is Netscape 3.01 installed by Debian better than Netscape 3.04 installed
 in /usr/local?

I have not tried to install Netscape 3.01 with the Debian's installation
package, but there are lots of differences between NS-3.01 and
NS-4.04...
The installation procedure may have changed.

 I already downloaded 3.04, don't really want to get an older version

Neither do I, even if NS-4 requires lots of system resources !

 Actually, I installed 3.04 with the Debian package - just to see what
 would happen, but I think I will uninstall it and put it in /usr/local.

Netscape provides a script for installing Communicator.
I've used it to install Communicator under
/usr/local/produits/sv-cguvaens/netscape and had no problem (remember
that with such directories you need to set the MOZILLA_HOME variable !).

Hope it helps,
Seb.


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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread schulte
According to Curt Howland:
 
 
 Good afternoon.
 
 I tried to install Netscape Communicator, and received the
 error that it needed libc6, which I do not have. So I went
 back to use the old netscape 3.01 (i think) that I had been
 using, but it seems to have been partially purged.
 
 I say partially, because when I went to install v3.04, I
 got the following message:
 
 ian# dpkg -i netscape_3.01-4.deb  
 (Reading database ... 19956 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking netscape (from netscape_3.01-4.deb) ...
 - This release is for a different version of netscape than the one installed.
   Please 'dpkg --purge netscape netscape-beta' and reinstall this package.
   You will need the original 3.01 source archive from Netscape to do
   this.  Place the source archive in /tmp.
 dpkg: error processing netscape_3.01-4.deb (--install):
  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  netscape_3.01-4.deb
 
 So, I tried getting the old copy, as below,
 
 Curt-
 

I installed it, using the the Debian script, by simply changing the name
of the tar-ball: mv netscape_3.01*.tar.gz netscape_3.04*.tar.gz (or 
something like, it's from my memory, you have to put in the _complete_
correct file names. But it is obvious.). 

Yes, the script recommends not to do it, but it works.
It conflicts, however with NS4 anyway (which I installed to /usr/local). 

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Re: unable to insmod irqtune_mod

1998-01-16 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
 Hi,
 I have just compiled and installed kernel 2.0.33 on my debian 1.3.1/hamm
 hybrid system.
 I have recompiled irqtune 0.6 for my kernel.
 but when I type 
 insmod ./irqtune_mod.o
 
 I get the following error:
 ./irqtune_mod.o: kernel-module version mismatch
 ./irqtune_mod.o was compiled for kernel version 1.0.0
 while this kernel is version 2.0.33.
 
 and irqtune_mod.o is not loaded.
 Any ideas why.
 

I have kernel 2.0.32 on debian 1.3.1 (pure bo) and no problems with
irqtune 0.6. I know that irqtune is default compiled for kernel version
1.0.0 but it should run (check README).

Check or/and send output of: 
   /Your_irqtune_path/irqtune -e 21 irqtune.otput

Mirek


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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-16 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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I wish to thank all the responces which I received on my Xauthority problem. I
went looking for 'ssh' when I read it in the thread, but wasn't able to find
it in any package (bo system). Of note, I use the default 'bash' shell and
checked the variables (as suggested) :

XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority

I chased this down to a 'declare' statement in the /etc/profile file. Should I
change the location of the declaration to the ~/.bash_profile file? (and
change it to 'XAUTHORITY=~$USER/.Xauthority') ?

Well, I don't have that in my /etc/profile, but it might not be a standard
/etc/profile. Bash in fact does do this correctly:

$ declare -x FOO=~miquels
$ echo $FOO
/home/staff/miquels

But some ways of quoting and/or using $USER might cause it not to work.
Without seeing the exact line from your /etc/profile we cannot see what
might be the problem.

Mike.
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Re: PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?

1998-01-16 Thread William R Ward
Will Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
  The XF86 config file points to /dev/mouse, which is a link to a serial
  port, but, my mouse is not on S0/S1.
 the correct PS/2 mouse port is /dev/psaux.
 
  How should /dev/mouse be setup for this, in windows it is a separate port
  at IRQ 12.
 use /dev/psaux and it'll be taken care of automatically.  You might do
 
 rm /dev/mouse
 ln -s /dev/psax /dev/mouse
 
 to make a new /dev/mouse link that points to /dev/psaux,  and then use
 /dev/mouse instead of /dev/psaux.  That way if for some reason you ever
 need to use a serial mouse,  you can just change the link rather than
 reconfiguring every piece of software that uses the mouse.

My system has a /dev/psmouse that is the same device as /dev/psaux as
far as I can tell...

I have a PS/2 port on the motherboard (it's an Intel TX chipset board)
and I tried hooking my Logitech trackball to it but it managed to make
the computer very upset -- the keyboard locked up!  Also when I tried
to start X without the mouse plugged in - but with it configured to
use /dev/psmouse - it wouldn't start.  Both times I had to log in over
the ethernet and fix the problem by rebooting (keyboard lockup) or
killing the X processes (mouse problem).

Anyone get this to work?  I'd like to be able to hook up a terminal to
the serial port that i've been using for mouse.

--Bill.

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Re: hacker attack: leaves .BitchX dir in root's home

1998-01-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Carlos Carvalho hat gesagt: // Carlos Carvalho wrote:

 My site has been atacked by a hacker using a method that leaves a
 directory .BitchX (or something close) in root's home dir. It gets the
 user/password combination of any user that telnet, ftp or use pop3 to
 get to the machine (no ssh).
 
 What's the security hole that's being exploited? At first the attacker
 didn't have the root password.

Don't know about this BitchX-stuff, but the rest might be a juggernaut attack.
Juggernaut is a nice and userfriendly telnet-hijacker that has been presented 
in Phrack-magazine. It steals an established telnet-, ftp- or pop3-session and
compiles good under debian and any other linux (I don't think it is or will
be a debian package though :) )

If you have been attacked by juggernauts you should see so called ACK storms.
AFAIK the only solution is to use ssh-programms. 

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1998-01-16 Thread Sven Garbade
 
  Hallo! 
   
  I'm a new Linux user, so I've got some unsolved 
  Problems. 
   
  1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly. 
 Win95 and Debian 1.3 run on my box, so if Win95 runs  
 as default, Linux won't boot, if Linux runs as default, 
 I'm unable to boot Win95. Here are some system  
 informations: 
   
  Harddisk: Quantum Fireball 2.10 GB 
  - 
   
  No ramdisk support 
   
  LILO  configuration file: 
  --- 
   
  # LILO configuration file 
  # 
  # Start LILO global section 
  lock 
  boot = /dev/hda 
  compact   # faster, but won't work on all systems. 
  delay = 10  # 10 Sek. Reaktionszeit 
  vga = 1   # force sane state 
  ramdisk = 0   # paranoia setting 
   
  install = /boot/boot.b 
  map = /boot/map 
   
  # End LILO global section 
   
  # DOS bootable partition config begins 
  other = /dev/hda1 
label = m 
table = /dev/hda 
  # DOS bootable partition config ends 
   
  # Linux bootable partition config begins 
  image = /vmlinuz 
root = /dev/hda5 
label = l 
read-only # Non-UMSDOS filesystems should be mounted read-only for checking 
  # Linux bootable partition config ends 
   
  # Alternative: alten Kernel booten 
  image = /vmlinuz.bak 
root = /dev/hda5 
label = lb 
read-only 
   
  Partition table (fdisk): 
    
   
  Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders 
  Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes 
   
 Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System 
  /dev/hda1   *11  204   411232+   6  DOS 16-bit  =32M 
  /dev/hda2  205  205 1022  16490885  Extended 
  /dev/hda5   *  205  205  24582624+  83  Linux native 
  /dev/hda6  246  246  26132224+  82  Linux swap 
  /dev/hda7  262  262  509   499936+  83  Linux native 
  /dev/hda8  510  510  560   102784+  83  Linux native 
  /dev/hda9  561  561  713   308416+  83  Linux native 
  /dev/hda10 714  714  917   411232+  83  Linux native 
  /dev/hda11 918  918 1022   211648+  83  Linux native 
   
   
  Partition table (cfdisk): 
  - 
   
Disk Drive: /dev/hda 
Heads: 64   Sectors per Track: 63   Cylinders: 1023 
   
  NameFlags Part Type  FS Type  Size 
(MB) 
   
-- 
  /dev/hda1   Boot  PrimaryDOS FAT16 [   ] 
401.63  
  /dev/hda5   Boot  LogicalLinux
80.72 
  /dev/hda6 LogicalLinux Swap   
31.50 
  /dev/hda7 LogicalLinux   
488.25 
  /dev/hda8 LogicalLinux   
100.41 
  /dev/hda9 LogicalLinux   
301.22 
  /dev/hda10LogicalLinux   
401.63 
  /dev/hda11LogicalLinux   
206.72 
Pri/LogFree Space
1.97 
   
  
  The partitions /dev/hda8 to /dev/hda11 are not in use
  
  
  2. I've installed XEmacs. The keys Backspace and Delete work both as 
Backspace.
 I'd like it, that Delete works as Control-D (^D).
 I've tried this in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, but it doesn't help:
  
 xmodmap -e keycode 22=Backspace
  
  3. I don't like it to shutdown the computer. So if I don't work, I shutdown 
to the
 xdm-login and switch off the monitor. But if I want to login after some 
time, the 
 xdm-login is shifted up and after login the screen presents a much wider 
display,
 so I have to adjust the monitor again.

 My monitor is a new Yakumo Modell.
 Default resolution is 1158x864.
  
 Maybe it helps to print some parts of the /etc/X11/XF86Config file:
  
  Section Monitor
 Identifier  Primary Monitor
 VendorName  Unknown
 ModelName   Unknown
 HorizSync   30-65
 VertRefresh 50-100
 Modeline  1024x768   85.00 1024 1028 1148 1348 768 772 775 819
 Modeline  800x60069.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -hsync -vsync
 Modeline  640x48045.80 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -hsync -vsync
 Modeline  640x40031.50 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync
 Modeline  512x38422.00 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -hsync -vsync
 Modeline  480x30029.95 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 doublescan
 Modeline  400x30025.00 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 doublescan
 Modeline  320x24015.75 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 doublescan
 Modeline  320x20012.59 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 doublescan
 Modeline  

Re: SEUL packaging, etc.

1998-01-16 Thread Fredrick Paul Eisele
 I would like to make it almost trivial for a user to install a 
 package, i.e. click in a hypertext help/wizard window and it 
 will install what is required for functionality set X.

Some time ago I made a suggestion that was only slightly 
commented on (as I have been rather busy I have not followed up)
that I believe addresses this issue.

Problem #0:
  Installation is too hard.  I have to type in all kinds of
installation parameters.

Solution #1:
  Make a graphical interface, everybody knows picking is 
much better than typing.
[Is this the essence of what Erik is proposing?]

Problem #1: (Problem with Solution #1)
   Installation is hard, I have to enter in all kinds of
installation parameters and I can't just enter them and let
the installation proceed on its own, I have to shepherd it all
the way.

Solution #2:
  Make better use of the multi-stage select/install/configure.
Cause all the information required to install to be obtained
during the select phase.  Separate the configure into two phases
one to collect the configuration information and the second to
actually perform the configure (Could this information be
obtained during the select as well).

Problem #2: 
  Installation requires me to have a significant amount of 
insight into the workings of each package that I have to install.
I want this ability for the packages that I am particularly 
interested in but for the bulk of the packages I really don't 
care.  In fact what I really want is to have an installation
like (for example) Bud (basic user/developer).  

Solution #3: 
  Add in a second level install program which provides 
a GUI and has all the standard selections already entered.  
If I want something different then I can simply pick 
different options.  [Is this the essence of dselect, diety et al?]

Problem #4:
  But, what if there are multiple standard selections that 
cross multiple packages, then I have to hard code them into the
second level install program.  This will make for the 
baulkanization of install packages.  [Is this the cause for
SEUL project?]  What I really want is to make it possible for
me to manage MY configuration and to be able to share MY
configuration with other like minded people, i.e. people 
acting in the same role.  This is the arguement against the
Debian distribution, debian is for bit-heads, hackers, 
nerds, ... and not for normal, typical,... people like ME.

Solution #4:
  Extend the first level install programs to comprehend 
package recursion.  Extend the current package to allow the
inclusion of other packages.  These new collection packages 
have options which override the default parameters 
of constituent packages. Ultimately, the specific 
system administator should have the ability to generate 
a collection package consisting of their own selected set 
of packages.  This would allow for the sharing of system 
configurations.

Problem #5:
  This could/would lead to a explosion of packages which 
add no real functionality to the distribution.  People would
start arguing over what was the best way to organize the 
package hierarchy.  Also, the atomic packages (those that
do not include other packages) would be more prone to failure?

Solution #5:
  Is this a problem?



Finally, it is possible that all this discussion has already
gone on in the development of Deity and others.  If so, sorry
for consuming valuable band width,  if not, I would like to
see some discussion on this thread.

In particular I would like to see some discussion of the the 
different roles which typical linux users may play.

Fred

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device /dev/hdh does not exist....

1998-01-16 Thread Pure Energy

I have just compiled into the kernel my cdrom and reading this the system
does in fact find it on boot (am i correct??) 

hdh: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS
hdh: MATSHITA CR-581, ATAPI CDROM drive

Now if i put a cd in the drive and try to mount it i get the following..

Root [~]#mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom
mount: special device /dev/hdh does not exist 

I was told that i need a script to enable/create devices this high (is
this correct??) and if so where/what is it? 
I've been a debian user now for 2 year and have never successfully had a
cd-rom working on my system and would really like now. Any
help/suggestions here would be appreciated. Thanx.

PS If there is any info anyone needs to help me here please let me know
and i'll let you know.

--Rob


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RE: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?

1998-01-16 Thread Peter Prohaska
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Ted Harding wrote:

 It's whatever suits your taste. I have directories /A: /C: and /D: for 
 mounting
 msdos floppy  partitions on: helps the DOSsers to feels at home! (and yes, 
 the
 colon is part of the name). Put entries in /etc/fstab, a floppy in the drive,
 and people can learn to mount /A: very easily.

quite nifty.
I'll keep it in mind when giving a friend's Dog the kiss of life, next
time ;)

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FTape

1998-01-16 Thread Pure Energy

Well i had put this on the back burner aswell for a short time but have
put it back in my system. I have just reinstalled an IomegaDitto 2GB tape
drive (Internal). I run kernel version 2.0.32 (which i need for a specific
ether card) so i can not run 2.0.30. 

Now i download ftape-2.0.30 try to install..

Unpacking ftape-2.0.30 (from .../utils/ftape-2.0.30_3.04d-1.deb) ...
You've got a ftape module for your running kernel. Please compile a 
kernel with disabled ftape support.   

No i have checked this twice now and i don't have ftape configured in
either configured in or as a module (no modules here)

#Edited .config
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set

So... any suggestions??? Anyone else out there running this tape drive
with this kernel? 

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Re: device /dev/hdh does not exist....

1998-01-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 08:43:06AM -0500, Pure Energy wrote:
 Now if i put a cd in the drive and try to mount it i get the following..
 
   Root [~]#mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom
   mount: special device /dev/hdh does not exist 
 
 I was told that i need a script to enable/create devices this high (is
 this correct??) and if so where/what is it? 

Not at all;

% mknod /dev/hdh b 34 64

will do the job nicely. These numbers (34 64) are from the
Documentation/devices.txt from the kernel source.

In fact, /dev/MAKEDEV, the program SUPPLIED for creating devices
without looking up the numbers, and part of the *required*
package makedev, can happily do it for you:

% cd /dev
% ./MAKEDEV hdh

MAKEDEV knows about most of the devices you'd ever want to make.

So all you need is the kernel source to get the magic numbers
or MAKEDEV. Nothing special involved.


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Re: device /dev/hdh does not exist....

1998-01-16 Thread Tim Sailer
Pure Energy wrote:
 
 
 I have just compiled into the kernel my cdrom and reading this the system
 does in fact find it on boot (am i correct??) 
 
   hdh: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS
   hdh: MATSHITA CR-581, ATAPI CDROM drive
 
 Now if i put a cd in the drive and try to mount it i get the following..
 
   Root [~]#mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom
   mount: special device /dev/hdh does not exist 
 
 I was told that i need a script to enable/create devices this high (is
 this correct??) and if so where/what is it? 
 I've been a debian user now for 2 year and have never successfully had a
 cd-rom working on my system and would really like now. Any
 help/suggestions here would be appreciated. Thanx.


cd /dev
./MAKEDEV hdh


Tim

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Re: Mail notification

1998-01-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Tim Thomson wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a number of mail boxes, to handle the different lists I am on.
 I use procmail to filter the mails to the right folders.
 
 I have put:
 MAIL='/var/spool/mail/tim;/home/tim/mail/debian-user;/home/tim/mail/seul-
 project'
 MAILCHECK=10
 
 into my .bash_profile. I have tried the same MAIL variable as MAILPATH but
 this didn't work.

I use xbuffy to do mail notification.  It's a better xbiff-like program.

 Also, how can I have mail that have been cross posted still sorted into
 the correct boxes? At the moment procmail looks at the TO headers, but if
 something is crossposted, all the mails go into the same box. I think I
 need to set something in a different header, but I don't know what it is.

Don't sort on `To'.  When you receive newmail on your spool file, `more'
it and you will see an initial `From' line which you can use with procmail.
Examples:

-
MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail  #you'd better make sure it exists

:0
* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian

:0
* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
procmail
:0
* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail

:0
* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fvwm

:0
* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
aic7xxx
-

Or put all mailing lists other than Debian in `mailing':

-
MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail  #you'd better make sure it exists

:0
* ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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#Majordomo lists
:0:
* ^Sender: owner-\/[-a-zA-Z0-9_.]*
maillists

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maillists
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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith

  I am no loger
 able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that
 rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm
 and if I log out as root everything works fine again.

A shot in the dark... Might be the same intermittent bug I have:

This occurs with rxvt v2.21 (latest vsn) and rxvt 2.20 (from XFree-3.3).
This is therefore not a Debian-specific problem (unless caused by
libraries). 

One in a while, I get:

$ /usr/X11R6/bin/rxvt
rxvt: can't open pseudo-tty
rxvt: aborting 

The weirdest thing is that
 (1) It's intermittent.  Works now and maybe not when I get back from
 coffee break.
 (2) After a few errors, the command may work again.
 (3) xterm works.  So when I get the rxvt error, I call `xterm' and exit
 from it, and then immediately calling `rxvt' works.

$ strace rxvt
[much stuff deleted]
getegid()   = 1000
getuid()= 1000
setreuid(65535, 1000)   = 0
getgid()= 1000
setregid(65535, 1000)   = 0
open(/dev/ptyp0, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp1, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp2, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp3, O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (I/O error)
open(/dev/ptyp4, O_RDWR)  = 4
access(/dev/ttyp4, R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open(/dev/ptyp5, O_RDWR)  = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open(/dev/ptyp6, O_RDWR)  = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[more of the same...]
open(/dev/ptysf, O_RDWR)  = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)  
open(/dev/ptyt0, O_RDWR)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[more of the same...]
open(/dev/ptyzf, O_RDWR)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

$ ls -l /dev/pty*
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   0 Jul  2 16:04 /dev/ptyp0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   1 Jul  3 09:48 /dev/ptyp1
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   2 Jul  2 11:06 /dev/ptyp2
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   3 Jul  3 09:44 /dev/ptyp3
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   4 Jul  3 09:44 /dev/ptyp4
crw-r--r--   1 root sys2,   5 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp5
crw-r--r--   1 root sys2,   6 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp6
crw-r--r--   1 root sys2,   7 May 19 21:33 /dev/ptyp7
[etc...]

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Re: device /dev/hdh .. SOLVED ..

1998-01-16 Thread Pure Energy
Thanx :) i now have the cdrom working with..

cd /dev
./MAKEDEV hdh 

Help was appreciated :) 2 years and first time that 
(mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdh /cdrom) worded :)






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Netscape installation info [Re: Whiney little request]

1998-01-16 Thread Mike Miller
 Anthony == Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well, since the topic *is* ``Whiney little request'' and
 wrappers such as this seem the most likely way to integrate
 commercial software into Debian, is it worth considering a
 way of specifying how to get needed non-deb files?

 Something like:

 Required-nd: netscape.tar.gz Source: netscape.tar.gz
 ftp://ftp.netscape.com/wherever/netscape.tar.gz

 would be substantially more intuitive and convenient for
 the beginner (perhaps the SEUL people would like to think
 about this?) at the very least.

The description of netscape3 in the Packages file does state how
and where to get the netscape tar file, but the description for
netscape4 doesn't.  From netscape3:

   Netscape Communications Corporation does not allow redistribution of
   their software.  Therefore, this package requires the user to fetch
   the netscape archive separately and place it in the directory pointed
   to by the TMPDIR environment variable (or /tmp if TMPDIR not defined)
   before attempting to install this package.  You can get the linux
   packages via anonymous ftp from archive.netscape.com as:
  ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/
  netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz

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Xauthority

1998-01-16 Thread tko
An update on the Xauthority problem 8-)

On a wild idea, I commented out any references to initializing XAUTHORITY
anywhere in the system. Lo and behold, xauth worked and I now have good
.Xauthority files for root and other users! I did logout all users to reset
all the enviroment variables before using 'xauth'.

Is this a feature or a bug?

BTW, now xdm won't finish booting for any user other than root. I get the 
initial Xserver screen, then return to login.

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statically linked ls ???

1998-01-16 Thread Xavier Bergade
I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1  and
lib/libc.so.5)

Is there any binary already available?
If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar)

thanx.


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Re: Xauthority

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An update on the Xauthority problem 8-)
 
 On a wild idea, I commented out any references to initializing XAUTHORITY
 anywhere in the system. Lo and behold, xauth worked and I now have good
 .Xauthority files for root and other users! I did logout all users to reset
 all the enviroment variables before using 'xauth'.
 
 Is this a feature or a bug?

I don't know why it is behaving like that. Could you post the exact lines
to this list? Then somebody can have a look at them.

 BTW, now xdm won't finish booting for any user other than root. I get the 
 initial Xserver screen, then return to login.

That might be caused by the .xsession file in root's home directory or by
/etc/X11/Xsession if the former does not exist. Take a look at them. You
can also try to remove the .Xauthority file and log in again.

Remco


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Re: statically linked ls ???

1998-01-16 Thread joost witteveen
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
 I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1  and
 lib/libc.so.5)
 
 Is there any binary already available?

ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/debian/upload/ls

 If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar)

Add -static somewhere on on the gcc commandline (the final linking
stage) in the Makefile. That's how I generated mine.


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Re: FTape

1998-01-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Pure Energy wrote:

 
 Well i had put this on the back burner aswell for a short time but have
 put it back in my system. I have just reinstalled an IomegaDitto 2GB tape
 drive (Internal). I run kernel version 2.0.32 (which i need for a specific
 ether card) so i can not run 2.0.30. 
 
 Now i download ftape-2.0.30 try to install..
 
   Unpacking ftape-2.0.30 (from .../utils/ftape-2.0.30_3.04d-1.deb) ...
   You've got a ftape module for your running kernel. Please compile a 
   kernel with disabled ftape support.   
 
 No i have checked this twice now and i don't have ftape configured in
 either configured in or as a module (no modules here)
 
   #Edited .config
   # CONFIG_FTAPE is not set
 
 So... any suggestions??? Anyone else out there running this tape drive
 with this kernel? 

I am running 2.0.33 with ftape-3.04d, but I compiled both myself from
source (ftape in /usr/local).  I also used ftape-3.04d with 2.0.32 with no
problems, however (also compiled from source.)  No problems.

Bob

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Question about network configuration

1998-01-16 Thread \Zsolt Frei\



Hi everyone,

Let me try my question again:

I have installed Debian from my office (connected to the net through
an ethernet card, to make it fast) and now transported the computer
back home.

During the installation I set up the network to use my ethernet card,
but now I have to switch to PPP. How to do this?

In my previous life (slackware) there was this utility called
netconfig which made life easy. Is there any similar utility in
Debian?

If I have to do it by hand, what are the exact changes I have to
make and what files are involved?

Sorry if this is a FAQ or if I just did not read the manual careful
enough...

Thanks in advance: Zsolt Frei




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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

tim wrote,

 On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote:

  unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be 
  installed by the debian packages is 3.01.

 Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I
 got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had
 used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb)
 I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went
 well.

err, I wasn't clear.  The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01.

I haven't even considered 4, after watching it bring a 400mhz, 350meg alpha to 
its knees . . .


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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:

 
 tim wrote,
 
  On 15 Jan, Richard E Hawkins Esq wrote:
 
   unless something has changed, the only version of netscape which can be 
   installed by the debian packages is 3.01.
 
  Nope. Communicator 4.03 installs fine using the netscape deb in hamm. I
  got a similiar message when I first tried using it though because I had
  used the netscape installer as a temporary fix (until I found the deb)
  I manually deleted the netscape dir and the binary/link and all went
  well.
 
 err, I wasn't clear.  The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01.

Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib
and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have
you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages?

 I haven't even considered 4, after watching it bring a 400mhz, 350meg alpha 
 to its knees . . .

:-(

Remco


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Re: loging into NT

1998-01-16 Thread Pere Camps
Jens,

 Do you already have a domain controller? If so, you can have samba
 authenticate using the NT domain controller.

No, I don't have a domain controller. I just have the linux box
(which mainly serves e-mail and some file sharing) and a Win 3.11 box that
everybody uses with no access control. I'm going to put another machine
with Windows now, and that's why I wanted to see if Linux had
authentification, to see if I could save myself the hours of
reconfiguration that the win 3.11 machine needs every couple of weeks
because of ignorant users.

 entirely. NT is going to use X.500 directory services for it's
 user/passwords, domains, etc. As unbelievable as it is, they are going
 to replace their current crappy proprietary system with an actual ISO
 standard.

Great news really. I never though that M$ was going to ease up
things that way.

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Re: subscribe

1998-01-16 Thread Sten Anderson
Sven Garbade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly. 

   # LILO configuration file 
   # 
   # Start LILO global section 
   lock 
   boot = /dev/hda 

Try boot=/dev/hda2

You can get the old MBR back with fdisk /MBR (the fdisk from DOS)

   Partition table (fdisk): 
     

   Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders 
   Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes 

  Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System 
   /dev/hda1   *11  204   411232+   6  DOS 16-bit  =32M 
   /dev/hda2  205  205 1022  16490885  Extended 
   /dev/hda5   *  205  205  24582624+  83  Linux native 

^ 
|

Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it
should be hda2

   
   2. I've installed XEmacs. The keys Backspace and Delete work both as 
 Backspace.
  I'd like it, that Delete works as Control-D (^D).

Try M-x load-library delbackspace, or insert (load delbackspace) in ~/.emacs


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gcc 2.8.0 and friends

1998-01-16 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
A miracle has happened.

For some inexplicable reason the FSF decided to release gcc 2.8.0 and
libg++2.8.0, which I had been expecting for ages.  Anyone know if it
will be included in hamm before it freezes?

Eric Meijer

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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
remco remarked,
 On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
  err, I wasn't clear.  The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01.

 Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib
 and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have
 you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages?

I believe that the only version that netscape installs is 3.01.  Has this 
changed?  (not to be confused with the netscape4 installer).


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Re: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?

1998-01-16 Thread Peter Prohaska
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, David Wright wrote:

 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:
 
  Peter Prohaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   why `/dev/fd*'s are mounted at /floppy.
When reading fsstnd, you would expect them to be mounted in
   /mnt/someting.  Since /floppy is neither one of those un*x shorties nor
   used during installation I can't see why it lives on the root.
  
  The floppy drive not used during installation?  Depends on how you
  install.
 
 I use floppy installation but I don't use /floppy. I assume the floppies 
 don't actually get mounted during installation, so you have to type /dev/fd0.

As there is a directory called /var/lib/dpkg/methods/floppy I anticipate
the floppies to be mounted during install process.

 But I do like /floppy as I don't normally cd there, but I can type /ftab 
 and that's it. I'm careful to preserve unique first letters for all the 
 frequently used top level directories. In fact, only /bin, /boot, /lib and 
 /var don't work this way (thanks to lost+found and the kernel link).

But therefore most of them ( at least the important subdirs ) are
privileged to get listed in an enviornment variable ;)

thanks for your comments,
  peter.


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Re: statically linked ls ???

1998-01-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
If you need it because you screwed up libc so ls doesn't work but bash does
then you can always use this alternative:

echo *

This will print all the files in the current directory since the shell will
do the wildcard expansion. Yes, I have screwed up my own libc before!

Xavier Bergade wrote:

 I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1  and
 lib/libc.so.5)

 Is there any binary already available?
 If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar)

 thanx.

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Re: loging into NT

1998-01-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Pere Camps wrote:

 Jens,

  Do you already have a domain controller? If so, you can have samba
  authenticate using the NT domain controller.

 No, I don't have a domain controller. I just have the linux box
 (which mainly serves e-mail and some file sharing) and a Win 3.11 box that
 everybody uses with no access control. I'm going to put another machine
 with Windows now, and that's why I wanted to see if Linux had
 authentification, to see if I could save myself the hours of
 reconfiguration that the win 3.11 machine needs every couple of weeks
 because of ignorant users.


Oh, ok, then you're situation isn't so bad. It certainly can do
authentication. I was guessing that you're in the same boat I am where you
have a hybrid environment which includes NT domains and you want them all to
work together. If all you want is user authentication, samba can do that just
fine. It can use your /etc/passwd or you can set up separate accounts. If you
want help you can send me email and I'll help you get it going. I've been
using Samba for years.

  entirely. NT is going to use X.500 directory services for it's
  user/passwords, domains, etc. As unbelievable as it is, they are going
  to replace their current crappy proprietary system with an actual ISO
  standard.

 Great news really. I never though that M$ was going to ease up
 things that way.

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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread bn711
On 15 Jan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in
 X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger
 able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that
 rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm
 and if I log out as root everything works fine again.
 
 What is causing this??
 
 Thanks,
 Tim
 

I had this same problem after I moved my system to a different hard
drive.  The problem has to do with the /dev/pty* devices.

Try cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV as root... this spat out a few error messages
for symlinked devices (/dev/cdrom, /dev/modem, /dev/mouse) but it fixed
the problems with rxvt.
 
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Re: Clean hamm installation

1998-01-16 Thread Paul Rightley

On 15-Jan-98 Ben Pfaff wrote:
Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I need 
to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm.
 
 There aren't an hamm boot disks yet.  You have to install bo, then
 upgrade.
 
I wish that this were the case...  Unfortunately, under
dists/unstable/main/disks-i386/current, there are boot
disks.  I now understand that, but I didn't this weekend --
when I was installing Debian at home.  So far, I will say
that upgrading from libc5 to libc6 has required that I completely
reinstall two systems (both of which had been going since
just previous to Debian 1.1 days).  I will not go into
detail regarding the problems I had except to say that I
didn't HAVE to reinstall, but it surprised me that even a
relative Debian verteran was caught up so effectively - I
really think that the unpgrade script may solve some of the
troubles.

Just had to get a load off - still think Debian is head-and-
shoulders above the other distributions (besides, this time
I could reinstall and feel good about setting up tripwire
and a couple other security measures),

Paul


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Re: emacs, X, and Alt key

1998-01-16 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Thomas E. Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My problem is that *neither* `Alt' key is being interpreted as `Meta'
 by emacs.  AfterStep's `Alt-Tab' combination works well enough to switch
 between windows.
 
I have commented out two lines in my XF86config like that:

  # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, 
  # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

  LeftAlt Meta
  RightAltModeShift
  #RightCtlCompose
  #ScrollLock  ModeLock

Works for me.

Greetings,   jtr

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Re: loging into NT

1998-01-16 Thread Pere Camps
Jens,

 work together. If all you want is user authentication, samba can do that
 just fine. It can use your /etc/passwd or you can set up separate
 accounts. If you want help you can send me email and I'll help you get
 it going. I've been using Samba for years. 

So WinNT users can log in windows with linux passwords (and then
have minimum privileges)? That'll be great. Please do tell me how to do
it.

TIA.

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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:

 remco remarked,
  On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
   err, I wasn't clear.  The only netscape 3 that can be installed is 3.01.
 
  Installed by which package? There is a netscape package in stablecontrib
  and there are netscape3 and netscape4 packages in unstable/contrib . Have
  you tried both the netscape and the netscape3 packages?
 
 I believe that the only version that netscape installs is 3.01.  Has
 this changed?  (not to be confused with the netscape4 installer). 

I just checked. It hasn't.

Does anybody know what harm renaming the .tar.gz file can cause? I know it
can go right, but can it go wrong?

Remco


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Hercules Stingray 128/3D

1998-01-16 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello !
Is the Hercules Stingray 128/3D, and its main graphics processor the
Alliance ProMotion-AT3D, supported by any XWindow server ?
Thanks for your help !
Sincerely,
Alexander Skwar
Wuppertal
Germany

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Re: gcc 2.8.0 and friends

1998-01-16 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 05:34:23PM +0100, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
 For some inexplicable reason the FSF decided to release gcc 2.8.0 and
 libg++2.8.0, which I had been expecting for ages.  Anyone know if it will
 be included in hamm before it freezes?

Rumor has it our gcc/egcc maintainer is currently very busy. I've reported
the new gcc+friends (#17081, #17082), and I'm trying to do a non-maintainer
release of gcc 2.8.0 for experimental.

I've not yet seen a date for the code freeze, so there is a good change gcc
2.8.0 will make it in.

HTH,
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Re: Monitor Specs for Xfree86

1998-01-16 Thread Britton

On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Gregory Guthrie wrote:

 Gateway informs me that my GW2000 Vivitron 17 monitor is
Hscan = 30-64
Vscan = 50-100
dot-pitch = .26

 but that they have never heard of dot-clock.
 
 I haden't either.  :-)

There is at least one Xfree doc that talks about it extensively, but I
don't remember which and I'm not home.  As I understand it, the dot clock
is literally the number of dots your video-card-generates/monitor-can-handle. 
Combine it with horizontal lines and vertical lines and you have refresh
rate (I think, it's been a while). With most modern vide-card/monitor
combinations the card can generate a signal quite a bit faster than the
monitor can handle, in my case the card will do 220 and my monitor can't
even handle 110 (required for resonable 1280x1024 refresh).  Some people
have told me that certain cables will limit you even more (which at 100+
MHz sounds credible to me) but others have told me this is wrong.


 I looked at some of the monitors pages at Xfree86, and they also don't
 list  this.  


 Any hints on what else to ask, or determine it?  
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Fast Network Terminal Graphics (gnuplot)

1998-01-16 Thread Camm Maguire
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted as well.


Greetings!  So what's the most efficient mechanism for getting gnuplot
graphics displayed across a telnet session without using X windows?
Something beside the dumb terminal driver of gnuplot would be nice.
Years ago, a friend helped me setup Tektronics terminal emulation
under kermit, but I can't seem to get it working now.  It just takes
too long to get a gnuplot plot displayed under remote X across slow
network connections.  X compressors help somewhat, but still.  Any
ideas? 

Thanks!

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printing problems

1998-01-16 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

I'm having problems with a printserver that we thought we'd solved.

Yesterday, I could get as far as being rejected by the server.  Today, I'm 
getting

connection to 'localhost' failed - Connection refused
job 'cfA080eyry.econ.iastate.edu' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed



I have PRINTER set to he183-lj5m

I have lprng installed, and the /etc/printcap entry 
# queue lj5-1.heady (438) serves (via PRINT-1.IASTATE.EDU)
#he183-lj5 (1724), a HP LaserJet 5MP in 183 Heady
he183-lj5|lj5-1.heady:\
:rm=print-1.iastate.edu:\
:lp=:\
:rp=he183-lj5:\
:sd=/usr/spool:\
:bk:

And since then, I've been added to the trusted hosts entry for the print 
server.

As I read this file, i shouldn't be trying to connect to localhost, but to 
print-1.iastate.edu.  And it was trying y esterday, and failing (as it wasn't 
a trusted host).

DOes anyone have any hints?

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Re: subscribe

1998-01-16 Thread Rick Jones
Sten Anderson wrote:
 
 Sven Garbade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly.
 
# LILO configuration file
#
# Start LILO global section
lock
boot = /dev/hda
 
 Try boot=/dev/hda2
 
 You can get the old MBR back with fdisk /MBR (the fdisk from DOS)
 
Partition table (fdisk):

 
Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
 
   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *11  204   411232+   6  DOS 16-bit  =32M
/dev/hda2  205  205 1022  16490885  Extended
/dev/hda5   *  205  205  24582624+  83  Linux native
 
 ^
 |
 
 Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it
 should be hda2

Also.  Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and
/dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk.  Not to mention
you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux
partition.  Looks to me like your partition table is hosed up.  Your
cfdisk printout doesn't even show /dev/hda2.

boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the
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Re: large drives with linux / LBA

1998-01-16 Thread Ender Wigin
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, rob wrote:

 
 Hello all,
 
 I am going to be using linux to set up a small intranet web server/mSQL 
 DBserver for a client of mine and have a bit of concern about the system i 
 have scoped to use.  they have an old dx-33 with 20mb ram that isn't doing 
 anything which should really be fine for what i'm thinking about setting 
 up.  (any concerns?) only problem is that it only has a 128MB drive in it 
 that i would like to be at least a 540MB.  of course i can't find anything 
 smaller than a 1.6GB these days.  Because the motherboard is an old VESA 
 thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support 
 LBA.  if this is the case will it be a problem?  is there something that i 
 can do to get around this?  am i going to have to upgrade the motherboard 
 to something newer? (and then the video card too because i can't buy 
 anything but PCI boards these days)  we are trying to keep cost relatively 
 low here. (non-profit organization)
 
 thanks for any suggestions,
 
Yeah Buy the new drive, whatever size you can find, Install the new hard
drive slaved to the old drive ... in the bios do not tell it that it has a
newer hard drive in it ... use the old drive for swap and put lilo on it
... so the boot drive is the 128 and the root drive in on the new biger
drive.

this is basicly what I have done... it works ...
-k


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linux client dialing into WinNT RAS server

1998-01-16 Thread Mark H. Mabry
Hi,
I'm trying to connect to my work's WinNT RAS server.  During initial 
negotiations between the machines, I get this problem with the CHAP 
authentication:

Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 
asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp]
Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 asyncmap 0x0 
auth chap msoft magic 0x420 pcomp accomp]
Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x0 auth chap msoft
]
Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 
asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp]
Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x1 00 00 02 dc]
Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x1]

Looks to me like my machine is rejecting the request to use Microsoft CHAP 
authentication.  Is that correct?  Has anyone else seen this?

I'm using ppp-2.2.0f-23, and kernel v2.0.27.

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Re: large drives with linux / LBA

1998-01-16 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, rob wrote:


 smaller than a 1.6GB these days.  Because the motherboard is an old VESA 
 thing (as is the IDE controller) I am worried that it's BIOS won't support 
 LBA.  if this is the case will it be a problem?  is there something that i 

I have recently installed debian on an old DX2-66 motherboard which also
would not read the LBA and in the DOS environment I had to overcome the
problem with software.

However, Linux did not have any problem identifying the 1.6GB Western
Digital.

Johann

 
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perl5.004_0(x)

1998-01-16 Thread mike

Is there a .deb of perl5.004_04 for Debian 1.3?  Several things
I've been trying to do are not working because I'm currently running
perl5.003.  I could build a new perl from source, but these are production
machines and I like to keep them as clean as possible.  I noticed that
perl5.004 is available under hamm, but I really don't feel like upgrading
my 2 main machines until it's been well tested.  If there isn't a package
for the newer perl is it possible for me to compile my own and just use
the binary leaving the old libraries and such in place to be upgraded at
a later date by dpkd?

TIA,
mike...

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Re: FTape

1998-01-16 Thread Johann Spies
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Pure Energy wrote:
 Now i download ftape-2.0.30 try to install..
...
 So... any suggestions??? Anyone else out there running this tape drive
 with this kernel? 

Hallo Rob,

I am using ftape 3.04-beta with success with my Iomega Ditto 2Gb.  The
final version is available.  It should be at
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/tapes/

I do not know whether the debian version is up-to-date.

Johann.

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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Normally, I use ssh to give me an xterm where I can type commands as root.
 Before I had ssh, I would su to root and then execute this script, which
 I called 'getcookie':
 
 #!/bin/sh
 pushd /home/remco /dev/null
 if [ X$DISPLAY = X ]
 then
DISPLAY=:0
 fi
 su remco -c /usr/bin/X11/xauth nlist $DISPLAY | /usr/bin/X11/xauth nmerge -
 popd /dev/null
 
 Here, `remco' is my own username. Substitute it with yours. The
 pushd/popd commands are to make sure the commands executed by su
 have a readable 'current working directory' (/root has permissions
 0700 on my system).

Is there is any way to know which user invoked X11 to automatically
insert the username in the above su line?

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Re: Clean hamm installation

1998-01-16 Thread Norbert Veber
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 10:07:33AM -0700, Paul Rightley wrote:
 
 On 15-Jan-98 Ben Pfaff wrote:
 Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I 
  need 
 to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm.
  
  There aren't an hamm boot disks yet.  You have to install bo, then
  upgrade.
  
 I wish that this were the case...  Unfortunately, under
 dists/unstable/main/disks-i386/current, there are boot
 disks.  I now understand that, but I didn't this weekend --

uhm, if you look more carefully, you'll notice that the
/ac121/linux/distributions/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/current is actually a
link to: ../../../bo/disks-i386/current which are the bo disks.  So in fact
there are NO hamm disks (yet).


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Re: perl5.004_0(x)

1998-01-16 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 01:01:39PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Is there a .deb of perl5.004_04 for Debian 1.3?  Several things

It has just been built.  At the moment it's still sitting in our
Incoming directory.  It's named perl_5.004.04-2bo1.1_i386.deb.

You're able to fetch the files from

   ftp://ftp.lh.umu.se/pub/linux/debian-Incoming/
   ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/
   ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-incoming/

I've built perl, too, but this version should be preferred.

These versions will go into bo-unstable which should be visible on
your favourite Debian mirror.

 Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today?

teardrop?  newtear?  bonk?  boink?  What comes next?

Regards,

Joey

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Re: statically linked ls ???

1998-01-16 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Xavier Bergade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd need a statically linked ls (ie no need of lib/ld-linux.so.1  and
 lib/libc.so.5)
 
 Is there any binary already available?
 If not how can I do it myself? (I have the fileutils source tar)
 
 thanx.

Here's instructions based on what I did to build this:

Unpack the fileutils source tar with dpkg-source or tar, whatever you
prefer.  Then,
  cd fileutils-3.16
  ./configure
  (cd intl; make libintl.a)
  (cd lib; make libfu.a)
  cd src
  perl -pie 's/^ls_LDFLAGS.*$/$ -static/' Makefile
  ## Or, if you don't like cryptic perl statements instead just edit the
  ## Makefile and find the line that begins with 'ls_LDFLAGS' and add
  ## '-static' to it.
  make ls

There may be a configure option to compile static binaries, but I
couldn't find one.  What's annoying is that you have to edit a line in
the Makefile for each program you want built statically. This would
seem to defeat some of the reasons for having variables inside a
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2 questions...

1998-01-16 Thread Mike Patterson

Ok, actually, I lied. Three. The first is: I haven't been getting any traffic
from the list lately.. has something happened? For that reason, I'd appreciate
a cc of any responses...

First real question: I want to mount a directory on another system. How 
do I do this? I thought it would be in the mount man pages, but I guess I'm
wrong. I assume that there must be something else out there I'm missing 
(I assume dealing with NFS)

Second: As some of you know, I'm working on a control-a1 controller. I was 
searching through some old documents, and came up with this line:

X \major{87}{}{char }{Sony Control-A1 stereo control bus}

With some hunting, I found that it was part of patch-2.1.54... Can anyone give
me any information on where to go from here? (I can't seemt to find any 
refrences to it... docs, people, etc, would be most helpful)

Thanks,
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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread tjferrell
On 15 Jan, Ben Pfaff wrote:
I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in
X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger
able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that
rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm
and if I log out as root everything works fine again.
 
 Root doesn't have rights to the X display because root doesn't own the
 display, the user who started the session does.  A quick fix (but
 insecure) is to type `xhost +localhost' before su'ing to root.  A
 better fix is to use xauth--try `man xauth' for more info.

my apologies - i was rather tired when i sent this out... after i su to
root i have an alias in bash that does two things: sets the DISPLAY
variable and does an xauth merge. 

i also noticed that i can have up to three terms before the above
problem kicks in...

tnx,
tim

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Re: 2 questions...

1998-01-16 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 02:23:43PM -0700, Mike Patterson wrote:
 
 Ok, actually, I lied. Three. The first is: I haven't been getting any traffic
 from the list lately.. has something happened? For that reason, I'd appreciate
 a cc of any responses...

You're not subscribed anymore.  I've put on on the list again.  Seems
your mailsystem was sending out bounces so the list server unsubscribed
you.

 First real question: I want to mount a directory on another system. How 
 do I do this? I thought it would be in the mount man pages, but I guess I'm
 wrong. I assume that there must be something else out there I'm missing 
 (I assume dealing with NFS)

Yep, nfs is good,  you could use samba, too.

On the server:

edit /etc/exports
start rpc.portmap (look at /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs)

On the client

either

mount -s nfs server:/direc/tor/y /he/re

or 

edit /etc/fstab.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: strange rvxt behaviour

1998-01-16 Thread tjferrell
On 16 Jan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 15 Jan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just upgraded to hamm and am having a peculiar problem: when I am in
 X as a user and I su to root in an rxvt terminal window, I am no loger
 able to open any rxvt terminal as a user. I get an error saying that
 rxvt cannot connect to a pseudo tty. This does not happen with xterm
 and if I log out as root everything works fine again.
 
 What is causing this??
 
 Thanks,
 Tim
 
 
 I had this same problem after I moved my system to a different hard
 drive.  The problem has to do with the /dev/pty* devices.
 
 Try cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV as root... this spat out a few error messages
 for symlinked devices (/dev/cdrom, /dev/modem, /dev/mouse) but it fixed
 the problems with rxvt.

thanks David - that fixed it (actually I did MAKEDEV pt*) 

c ya
Tim

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Re: subscribe

1998-01-16 Thread Sten Anderson
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sten Anderson wrote:
  
  Sven Garbade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly.
  
 # LILO configuration file
 #
 # Start LILO global section
 lock
 boot = /dev/hda
  
  Try boot=/dev/hda2
  
  You can get the old MBR back with fdisk /MBR (the fdisk from DOS)
  
 Partition table (fdisk):
 
  
 Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
  
Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   *11  204   411232+   6  DOS 16-bit  =32M
 /dev/hda2  205  205 1022  16490885  Extended
 /dev/hda5   *  205  205  24582624+  83  Linux native
  
  ^
  |
  
  Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it
  should be hda2
 
 Also.  Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and
 /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk.  

That is not a typo. The extended partition _includes_ the logical
partitions. 

Here is a print of my _working_ disk layout (from linux fdisk)

/dev/hda111  261  20964516  DOS 16-bit =32M
/dev/hda2   *  262  262  524  2112547+   5  Extended
/dev/hda5  262  262  27072261   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda6  271  271  524  2040223+  83  Linux native

I have lilo in the bootsector of /dev/hda2 (an extended partition). 

 Not to mention
 you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux
 partition.  

That is the correct way to do it according to the Lilo manual. You
cannot put lilo in the bootsector of a logical partion. In that case
lilo must reside in the bootsector of the enclosing extended
partition.  

 Looks to me like your partition table is hosed up.  Your
 cfdisk printout doesn't even show /dev/hda2.
 

 boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the
 partition.

You are mixing the concepts. /dev/hda is the MBR, not a bootsector. 
Lilo can reside in the MBR, but the Lilo manual warns against it.

- Sten Anderson


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Re: Clean hamm installation

1998-01-16 Thread Paul Rightley
Yes, I understand very well NOW that there are no hamm disks yet.
My point was that this upgrade of Debian is really expecting a lot
of typical Debian users.  At first glance, I thought that
disks under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386 would actually belong
to the unstable distribution.  It is such slight perception that can
really make things difficult for most users.  For instance, Scott
Ellis' Mini-HOWTO is very good - I followed all of the portions
of it that called out specific packages and that didn't seem like
suggestions (as opposed to necessary steps).  In this case,
I did not upgrade libgdm1 and perl and due to another (slight)
circumstance, was left with an unusable system after I launched
dselect.

The crux of my statement was to say that I have used Debian
a long time.  I keep up (pretty much) with debian-user.  And yet,
I was stung HARD by the upgrade to unstable.  I do not want to
imply that I feel wronged - it IS unstable after all.  I am
just trying to say that this upgrade has a long way to go
before it doesn't turn off a lot of typical Linux/Debian
users.

I still tell everyone that Debian is the greatest Linux distribution.

Paul

On 16-Jan-98 Norbert Veber wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 10:07:33AM -0700, Paul Rightley wrote:
 
 On 15-Jan-98 Ben Pfaff wrote:
 Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I
 need 
 to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm.
  
  There aren't an hamm boot disks yet.  You have to install bo, then
  upgrade.
  
 I wish that this were the case...  Unfortunately, under
 dists/unstable/main/disks-i386/current, there are boot
 disks.  I now understand that, but I didn't this weekend --
 
 uhm, if you look more carefully, you'll notice that the
 /ac121/linux/distributions/debian/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/current is actually a
 link to: ../../../bo/disks-i386/current which are the bo disks.  So in fact
 there are NO hamm disks (yet).


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Re: Staroffice 3.1 core-dumps.

1998-01-16 Thread Neilen Marais


  Running a Hamm system that is about a week old since the last
 update.
 
 Quick hack to make it work
 
 rename /usr/X11R6/lib to /usr/X11R6/libx
 run the staroffice setup
 rename /usr/X11R6/libx to /usr/X11R6/lib
 
 Would there be anything wrong with just making a symbolic link?  And
 leaveing it there (in case there are any other hair-brained apps
 looking for a funny lib

The problem is that the setup program is finding the xlib6g libs
there,
which causes it a problem since it needs the regular xlib6 libs. 
Renaming
the directory moves the xlib6g stuff completely out of ld.so's path. 
This
will, of course, break running new X stuff until the directory is put
back, but it allows the setup program to find the correct libraries in
/usr/lib/libc5-compat

I see... So is there no permanent solution to the problem allowing
libc5 dependant stuff like the setup program to find the right libs? 
And out of curiosity. why don't the actual apps (swriter for example)
not have this problem?


Cheers
Neilen

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Perl 5.004.04-3 Coredump problem SOLVED!!!

1998-01-16 Thread Neilen Marais
HI all

You might remember me moaning about adduser and some other things
breaking when I upgrade from the bo perl 5.003summin to the newest hamm
perl.

I did not get much helpful respone, because I assume the problem is
rather obscure.  So I did a bit of investigating, and I seem to have
narrowed down the problem to the libraries perl is trying to use.  If I
type ldd perl5.00404 I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ ldd /usr/bin/perl5.00404
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4000f000)
libgdbm.so.1 = /opt/kde/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x40015000)
libdb.so.2 = /lib/libdb.so.2 (0x4001b000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40029000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4002c000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40045000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40116000)

Now the libc5 bit must obviously be wrong... So I thaught, perhaps it
had something to do with libcrypt.so.1 using libc5, but if I type ldd
libctrypt.so.1 I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ ldd /lib/libcrypt.so.1
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4003)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x)

which to me looks quite peachy

But then, spurred on by writing this E-Mail, I suddenly find the
solution  Looking at the ldd perl bit I see

libgdbm.so.1 = /opt/kde/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x40015000)

/opt/kde/lib?? How dit THAT happen?  Anyway, check /etc/ld.so.conf,
nothing there.  Do set | grep LD, and VOILA sp?, it was set in my
LDCONFIG.

Now of course I had no idea that the env var was looked at before
ld.so.conf, or why on EARTH the kde package includes a libgdbm.so.1!! 
Well, at least I learnt something today :) (actually stricty speaking
yesterday as it was just midnight)

As you might guess, this is the deb package done by KDE, not the debian
one, which I installed because I was still using bo at the time.  And
since most people do I assume run the Debian KDE package (if they run
KDE), they never ran accross this problem.

I solved the problem by removing /opt/kde/lib from LDCONFIG, and
putting it at the end of /etc/ld.so.conf.

On another note, while this might not be a terribly common problem,
perhaps the maintainer of the libc5 to libc6 mini-HOWTO would like to
add the possibility of, and solution to this problem to it?

Cheers
Neilen (Happier Debian user than ever :)

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applixware 4.3 install on debian system

1998-01-16 Thread tjferrell

I am wanting to install applixware 4.3 on my debian system and would
like some advice as the best way to approach it. should i use alien to
convert the rpm packages or just run the install script or what? what
has proved successful for others?

thanx,
tim

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Re: subscribe

1998-01-16 Thread Rick Jones
Sten Anderson wrote:
  Also.  Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and
  /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk.
 
 That is not a typo. The extended partition _includes_ the logical
 partitions.

You got me there.  I had a damned brain cramp.

 Here is a print of my _working_ disk layout (from linux fdisk)
 
 /dev/hda111  261  20964516  DOS 16-bit =32M
 /dev/hda2   *  262  262  524  2112547+   5  Extended
 /dev/hda5  262  262  27072261   82  Linux swap
 /dev/hda6  271  271  524  2040223+  83  Linux native
 
 I have lilo in the bootsector of /dev/hda2 (an extended partition).
 
  Not to mention
  you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux
  partition.
 
 That is the correct way to do it according to the Lilo manual. You
 cannot put lilo in the bootsector of a logical partion. In that case
 lilo must reside in the bootsector of the enclosing extended
 partition.

You're 100% right.  I would, however, assume it means a Linux extended
(type 85) partition not a DOS extended partition (type 5).

  boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the
  partition.
 
 You are mixing the concepts. /dev/hda is the MBR, not a bootsector.
 Lilo can reside in the MBR, but the Lilo manual warns against it.

Got me again.  I guess I wasn't awake when I wrote that.

Just a heads up, since I can't find the doc I read it in, that I read
someplace, long time ago, might not even apply any more, that it isn't a
good idea to make your root file system an extended partition.  I
assumed this refered to extended partitions not being bootable, but I'm
fuzzy on the subject.  Evidently fuzzy on a lot of things today.

I don't understand why anybody would want to put a *Linux* *primary*
partition inside a *DOS* *extended* partition anyway.  The idea sends me
some real negitive vibs.  Maybe totally unfounded.

If there's some advantage to this could somebody let me know what it
is?  I may find a need for a similar setup in the future.


BTW.  Putting lilo in the MBR isn't advised against, it just means you
have to restore the MBR if you ever uninstall lilo.


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Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...

1998-01-16 Thread Steve Martin
Rather than renaming netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar so
that you can use the .deb installer for the netscape 3 version, it's
fairly simple to hack the 3 netscape related install files in
/var/lib/dpkg/info. Simply search for all instances of 301 and change it
to 304, then do the same with the Packages.contrib file. (As always, keep
an original copy of the file you're about to edit in case something goes
wrong).

I did exactly this and got a clean install of netscape-v304 with
no complaints from dpkg.


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Re: Clean hamm installation

1998-01-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 03:15:14PM -0700, Paul Rightley wrote:
 Yes, I understand very well NOW that there are no hamm disks yet.
 My point was that this upgrade of Debian is really expecting a lot
 of typical Debian users.  At first glance, I thought that
 disks under dists/unstable/main/disks-i386 would actually belong
 to the unstable distribution.  It is such slight perception that can
 really make things difficult for most users.  For instance, Scott
 Ellis' Mini-HOWTO is very good - I followed all of the portions
 of it that called out specific packages and that didn't seem like
 suggestions (as opposed to necessary steps).  In this case,
 I did not upgrade libgdm1 and perl and due to another (slight)
 circumstance, was left with an unusable system after I launched
 dselect.

Did you ever use --force-blah with dpkg? Was it ever possible to hose
your system without using --force-blah?

I upgraded my system before Scott's HOWTO was written; at that stage
it was fairly simple and all the dependencies seemed to prevent
me from doing anything wrong. IIRC, it was basically a case of
installing new ld.so, removing the libc5 -dev libraries, installing
libc6, installing the hamm non-g libraries, then installing the hamm g 
libraries, then anything else, like bash. For a while I only upgraded
the libraries (just to support running new libc6 stuff from hamm),
not bothering with existing packages. Never any sign of trouble.


Hamish
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Re: linux client dialing into WinNT RAS server

1998-01-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Mark H. Mabry wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm trying to connect to my work's WinNT RAS server.  During initial
 negotiations between the machines, I get this problem with the CHAP
 authentication:

How surprising (but read on).

 Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500
 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp]
 Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 asyncmap 0x0
 auth chap msoft magic 0x420 pcomp accomp]
 Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x0 auth chap 
 msoft
 ]
 Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500
 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x9951290e pcomp accomp]
 Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x1 00 00 02 dc]
 Jan 16 09:44:36 crimson pppd[18696]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x1]

 Looks to me like my machine is rejecting the request to use Microsoft CHAP
 authentication.  Is that correct?  Has anyone else seen this?

This is indeed correct. I believe the latest HAMM ppp package includes support 
for
ms-chap. If you like to run stable software though and still have bo (I do) then
there *is* a solution. If you're using the RAS which came with NT 4.0 (even if 
you
have Service Pak 3) NT you may have to get into the registry. But first you can 
try
the following. You need to set your ppp options so that pap authentication is
possible. I use something like the following command line:

/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 38400 user DOMAIN\\username crtscts lock modem connect
/usr/sbin/chat -v -t 120 ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' '' ATZ OK ATE0V1 OK
ATDT555-1212 CONNECT

Note that I use DOMAIN\\username for the 'user' parameter because I'm logging 
into
an NT box that wants me to log on as a domain user. If your user is defined 
locally
then you don't need to DOMAIN\\ part. You will also need to add your password to
the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file.
You'll need a line like:

DOMAIN\\user   *   password

When you dial in thus to the NT box you'll get logs like:

Jan 14 17:19:20 chilin pppd[22286]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1500 magic 0
xf2c0d760 pcomp accomp]
Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 asyncmap 0x0 aut
h chap msoft magic 0x7f95 pcomp accomp]
Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x0 auth pap]
Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 mru 1500 magic 0
xf2c0d760 pcomp accomp]
Jan 14 17:19:21 chilin pppd[22286]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 aut
h pap magic 0x7f95 pcomp accomp]

Note how this time the client ConfNak's, suggesting instead auth pap? That's the
stuff you're after. If this doesn't work, you probably have to modify the 
registry
on the NT box to effectively disable ms-chap. Start up regedt32 and go to
\\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\RasMan\PPP. There you'll 
see
two values, ForceEncryptedPassword and ForceStrongEncryption. Set them both to
zero. Then try again. If that doesn't do the trick. Go back to the same spot in 
the
registry. There should be a subkey there called CHAP. Delete the whole subkey. 
Then
try again. Make sure you stop/start the RAS service after you change settings in
the registry. This should work. Note that there is an article in the M$ 
Knowledge
Base. You should look it up on their web page for more in depth info on the
problem.




 I'm using ppp-2.2.0f-23, and kernel v2.0.27.

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Re: subscribe

1998-01-16 Thread Sten Anderson
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You're 100% right.  I would, however, assume it means a Linux extended
 (type 85) partition not a DOS extended partition (type 5).

Now I am confused. What is the difference?

 Just a heads up, since I can't find the doc I read it in, that I read
 someplace, long time ago, might not even apply any more, that it isn't a
 good idea to make your root file system an extended partition.  I
 assumed this refered to extended partitions not being bootable, but I'm
 fuzzy on the subject.  Evidently fuzzy on a lot of things today.

When you say make root FS an extended partition you really mean a
logical partition dont you? (You cannot put a filesystem on an extended 
partition).

I also vaguely remember debates on this issue. IIRC the conclusion was 
that to Linux there is no difference. All Linux needs to know is where 
the partitions begins and ends. The distinction between logical and
physical partitions only matters to the bootloader (and hey, it works
for me!). 

There is an issue on the bootable thing though. A physical partition
can be maded bootable, but not a logical partion. In that case you
need to use the bootsector for the extended partition.

 I don't understand why anybody would want to put a *Linux* *primary*
 partition inside a *DOS* *extended* partition anyway.  The idea sends me
 some real negitive vibs.  Maybe totally unfounded.
 
 If there's some advantage to this could somebody let me know what it
 is?  I may find a need for a similar setup in the future.

The only reason to use extended partitions is that most OS's don't
like more than 4 partitions. Like I said above, Linux doesn't care if
the partitions are logical or physical.

- Sten Anderson


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Re: hamm screen

1998-01-16 Thread Joel Klecker
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Regarding Re: hamm screen of 12:07 PM + 1/15/98, Norbert Veber wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 04:52:01PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 08:23:23PM +, Norbert Veber wrote:
  I am having a strange problem with the hamm version of screen, it
works fine
  for root, but when any other user tries to run it, it just 'freezes'
as in:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] screen
 
  it just sits there for ever, not error message, nothing.

 Permissions correct on /tmp? (drwxrwxrwxt). screen creates
 some sockets in /tmp I believe. I'm using 3.7.4-3 here
 and it seems to be fine.

yes, they are:
drwxrwxrwt   3 root root 4096 Jan 15 12:02 tmp

I use 3.7.4-4, I've noticed that it does not make any files in /tmp even
when I run it as root.

- From /usr/doc/screen/changelog.Debian.gz.


screen (3.7.4-4) unstable; urgency=low

  * Changed upstream changelog name (ChangeLog.gz - changelog.gz)
  * Changed sockets from /tmp to /var/run (closes:Bug#6487)
  * New Standards-Version: 2.3.0.1
  * Changed behaviour of backspace key (now sends `DEL' == 0177)

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Can't ftp to ftp.debian.org

1998-01-16 Thread G. Dale Miller
When I try to connect to ftp.debian.org I get the following messages.
bash-2.01$ ftp ftp.debian.org
Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu.
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
ftp

I know there was a problem with spam on the lists recently.
Are these sites blocking  connection attempts that come from
locations with a numeric IP address now. When I connect to other
sites it shows me connecting as my static IP address.

I can ftp to all other places I have tried but cannot connect  to
ftp.debian.org or master.debian.org.

I installed the ipmasq package arounf the time I started having these
problems
but completly purged this package thinking that it was my problem. The
only
other difference might be that I installed xinetd around the same time.

The problems started about 1 week before Christmas.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dale  Miller

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

P.S.  I plan to become a devloper again in the near future but will not
be able
  to if I cannot connect  to my account on master.debian.org




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