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Hi Justin I would be honored, if the title really was: "Internet of Things - yes Chris more blinking LEDs :-)" :-P Chris Von: Justin Mclean Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 06:47:40 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? Hi, OK I submitted 3 talks: - Internet of Things - yes Chris more blinking LEDs :-) - Forensic Analysis of Large Code Bases - my "code as a crime scene" talk from last ApacheCon I’m going to look at FlexJS code base this time as well. - Mobile Applications with Apache Flex - new intro talk on making cross platform mobile applications with Flex I’s say wish me luck but with my luck they ask me for another talk and I’ll end up doing 4 talks yet again :-) Thanks, Justin
Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Hi, OK I submitted 3 talks: - Internet of Things - yes Chris more blinking LEDs :-) - Forensic Analysis of Large Code Bases - my "code as a crime scene" talk from last ApacheCon I’m going to look at FlexJS code base this time as well. - Mobile Applications with Apache Flex - new intro talk on making cross platform mobile applications with Flex I’s say wish me luck but with my luck they ask me for another talk and I’ll end up doing 4 talks yet again :-) Thanks, Justin
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I've submitted my talk: "Object Oriented Programming for the Web using Apache FlexJS". Thanks, Om On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > I submitted my "FlexJS: Apache's Structured Language, Cross-platform > Solution for Clients" session. > > -Alex > > On 2/8/16, 1:19 PM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > > >Ok ... so I just submitted two talks: > > > >- Building FlexJS applications with Maven > >- Controlling Cyborgs with Apache Flex > > > >Don't forgett to post yours :-) > > > >Chris > > > > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >Von: Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] > >Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Februar 2016 00:34 > >An: dev@flex.apache.org > >Betreff: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > > > >Well I currently lay a lot of emphasis on the Ecmascript 4 factor. > >Current JavaScript being EcmaScript 3.0 or 3.1 (which was renamed to 5.0 > >but has no real changes in it). Sort of "Write Ecmascript 4 without > >breaking the internet" cause this was the major reason for not going down > >the 4.0 road and that's exactly what we are doing now ... writing > >Ecmascript 4 code having it cross compiled to 3.1 alias 5.0. I think its > >worth mentioning this. > > > >Chris > > > > > >Von: Alex Harui > >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 19:24 > >An: dev@flex.apache.org > >Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > > > >On 2/4/16, 1:47 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > >> > >>The organiser it more likely to pick talks that are topical, dare I say > >>fashionable, and will attract an audience so it does matter somewhat. > >>They I believe make the final selection. > > > >What buzz words do we think are topical or fashionable? Or maybe > >controversial? > > > >I'm thinking of changing the title of my talk to include "cross-platform". > > So maybe: > >"FlexJS: Apache's Structured Language, Cross-platform Solution for > >Clients" > > > > > >Thoughts? > >-Alex > > > >
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I submitted my "FlexJS: Apache's Structured Language, Cross-platform Solution for Clients" session. -Alex On 2/8/16, 1:19 PM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >Ok ... so I just submitted two talks: > >- Building FlexJS applications with Maven >- Controlling Cyborgs with Apache Flex > >Don't forgett to post yours :-) > >Chris > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] >Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Februar 2016 00:34 >An: dev@flex.apache.org >Betreff: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > >Well I currently lay a lot of emphasis on the Ecmascript 4 factor. >Current JavaScript being EcmaScript 3.0 or 3.1 (which was renamed to 5.0 >but has no real changes in it). Sort of "Write Ecmascript 4 without >breaking the internet" cause this was the major reason for not going down >the 4.0 road and that's exactly what we are doing now ... writing >Ecmascript 4 code having it cross compiled to 3.1 alias 5.0. I think its >worth mentioning this. > >Chris > >____________ >Von: Alex Harui >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 19:24 >An: dev@flex.apache.org >Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > >On 2/4/16, 1:47 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >> >>The organiser it more likely to pick talks that are topical, dare I say >>fashionable, and will attract an audience so it does matter somewhat. >>They I believe make the final selection. > >What buzz words do we think are topical or fashionable? Or maybe >controversial? > >I'm thinking of changing the title of my talk to include "cross-platform". > So maybe: >"FlexJS: Apache's Structured Language, Cross-platform Solution for >Clients" > > >Thoughts? >-Alex >
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Ok ... so I just submitted two talks: - Building FlexJS applications with Maven - Controlling Cyborgs with Apache Flex Don't forgett to post yours :-) Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.d...@c-ware.de] Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Februar 2016 00:34 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? Well I currently lay a lot of emphasis on the Ecmascript 4 factor. Current JavaScript being EcmaScript 3.0 or 3.1 (which was renamed to 5.0 but has no real changes in it). Sort of "Write Ecmascript 4 without breaking the internet" cause this was the major reason for not going down the 4.0 road and that's exactly what we are doing now ... writing Ecmascript 4 code having it cross compiled to 3.1 alias 5.0. I think its worth mentioning this. Chris Von: Alex Harui Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 19:24 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? On 2/4/16, 1:47 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > >The organiser it more likely to pick talks that are topical, dare I say >fashionable, and will attract an audience so it does matter somewhat. >They I believe make the final selection. What buzz words do we think are topical or fashionable? Or maybe controversial? I'm thinking of changing the title of my talk to include "cross-platform". So maybe: "FlexJS: Apache's Structured Language, Cross-platform Solution for Clients" Thoughts? -Alex
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Well, apparently we are not allowed to use committers@ to try to get committers to submit talks for the client track, even though the CFP went out on committers@. I will try dev@community.a.o next. -Alex On 2/4/16, 10:10 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >OK, heard back from Cordova. They have 3 talk proposals. I think I'll >try committers@ mailing list to see if other projects are interested. > >-Alex > >On 2/3/16, 9:46 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > >> >> >>On 2/3/16, 5:34 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>In any case, any updates on the Client Track? Is there a discussion >>>going >>>on somewhere? >> >>Haven't heard back from the Cordova person to ensure they are on board. >>I >>guess I'll ping him in the morning then open the discussion either way. >> >>-Alex >> >
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Well I currently lay a lot of emphasis on the Ecmascript 4 factor. Current JavaScript being EcmaScript 3.0 or 3.1 (which was renamed to 5.0 but has no real changes in it). Sort of "Write Ecmascript 4 without breaking the internet" cause this was the major reason for not going down the 4.0 road and that's exactly what we are doing now ... writing Ecmascript 4 code having it cross compiled to 3.1 alias 5.0. I think its worth mentioning this. Chris Von: Alex Harui Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 19:24 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? On 2/4/16, 1:47 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > >The organiser it more likely to pick talks that are topical, dare I say >fashionable, and will attract an audience so it does matter somewhat. >They I believe make the final selection. What buzz words do we think are topical or fashionable? Or maybe controversial? I'm thinking of changing the title of my talk to include "cross-platform". So maybe: "FlexJS: Apache's Structured Language, Cross-platform Solution for Clients" Thoughts? -Alex
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On 2/4/16, 1:47 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > >The organiser it more likely to pick talks that are topical, dare I say >fashionable, and will attract an audience so it does matter somewhat. >They I believe make the final selection. What buzz words do we think are topical or fashionable? Or maybe controversial? I'm thinking of changing the title of my talk to include "cross-platform". So maybe: "FlexJS: Apache's Structured Language, Cross-platform Solution for Clients" Thoughts? -Alex
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On 2/4/16, 1:47 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > >> I've seen other Apache projects not choose Flex for their >>cross-platform UI. Why is that? > >Out of curiosity which ones? Perhaps being involved in their project >would help adoption? Well, most recently, Corinthia did not choose us. And a recent project that is scanning the repos is using D3 and not Flex. Quite frankly, I could not name any of the 100+ Apache Projects with Flex front ends. Maybe Open Meetings? A suggestion I made to Infra to think about using Flex was flatly rejected because they didn't want to learn a new technology. If you are on the Infra MLs, I find it frustrating to see the number of commits that fix typos in the scripts. Think of how much time is spent across Apache just deleting those emails much less debugging in and finding the typo. I think they'd have far fewer typos using Flex. And then maybe they wouldn't be quite so backlogged. -Alex
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OK, heard back from Cordova. They have 3 talk proposals. I think I'll try committers@ mailing list to see if other projects are interested. -Alex On 2/3/16, 9:46 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > >On 2/3/16, 5:34 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > wrote: > >> >>In any case, any updates on the Client Track? Is there a discussion >>going >>on somewhere? > >Haven't heard back from the Cordova person to ensure they are on board. I >guess I'll ping him in the morning then open the discussion either way. > >-Alex >
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> In other words, AS3 is always in "use strict" mode! And that's a good thing ! :P -Mark smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
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Hi, > wouldn't normally attend ApacheCon The format has changed a little as it now a different organiser and two conference BigData and Core. > I also wonder if attendance numbers really matter. The organiser it more likely to pick talks that are topical, dare I say fashionable, and will attract an audience so it does matter somewhat. They I believe make the final selection. On the other hand not a large number of talks are submitted to the ApacheCon core conference so if you submit, and it’s interesting, you have a good chance of being accepted. > I saw Justin do an introductory Flex presentation at ApacheCon in > Portland. Justin does a really good job, but the question remains whether > it is the right topic for the demographic we expect. I’ve given variations on the same talk at every Apache con since, and I still don’t know the answer to that. While not well attended compared to some talks (and it can be luck of the draw on what you are up against at the same time). We do generally get a 50/50 split between people who know Flex and those who are new to it. When I ran a Flex workshop it was all people new to Flex. > but the people at the two ApacheCons I've attended seem different ApacheCon Europe and US attract different types of developers as well. > Or maybe the content of the presentation is fine, but > instead of a title like "Introduction to Flex" it should be something like > "Rapid Cross-Platform Client and App Development with Apache Flex”. I prefer content over fancy titles but a good summary may attract attendees. > I've seen other Apache projects not choose Flex for their cross-platform UI. > Why is that? Out of curiosity which ones? Perhaps being involved in their project would help adoption? Thanks, Justin
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Hopefully I could attend this time ... had my own talk in parallel :-( Von: Justin Mclean Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 09:58 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? Hi, > And of course, we need some cool titles to attract people. Justin gave a > talk titled - 'Treat your codebase like a crime scene'. I am sure it got a > lot of attention :-) It was well attended and I got a lot of feedback and carried on the conversation about the subject with several people after the conference which was nice. However while I used Flex as an example it wasn’t based on Flex. I am considering submitting it again. Thanks, Justin
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Last time it seemed as if they had problems filling the slots after the massacre they had performed due to the split of core and big-data a big hand full of talks were rejected due to mentioning some Big Data technology in their abstracts. Regarding the selection process: After the CFP is closed the judges start going through the proposals and can rate and add comments to the proposals. However it doesn't directly matter if a talk is selected or not. The ASF creates a proposal for tracks and which talks would fit in a track. It's then up to the Linux foundation to select which tracks/talks they want. As the LF carries the full financial risk, they want sexy talks that pull attendees and hereby paying customers. So if the topic isn't sexy, it will probably not be chosen, even if it's an interesting talk. I am planning on addressing the curiosity of nerds and tech geeks and pulling them into my talk because they want to see my little cyborg. While their there I'll then show them that we already provide everything they need for a cool IoT (home automation) solution. I haven't seen a single talk on frontends for IoT systems where the speaker answered: "well there is a way, you have to hack this and that to do what you want" to any question of adding some cool new controls or changing the appearance of some existing ones. I think this is where Flex excels ... lots of components and highly skinable. Chris Von: Alex Harui Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 07:37 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? On 2/3/16, 5:49 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Justin Mclean >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just worked out that I should be able to make it, not 100% sure what >>I’ll >> submit as a talk however. Would an Introduction to Flex fit into the >>client >> side track? >> > >I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile >instead? I would like to do it, but I wont have bandwidth for two talks >in >this conference. You guys would know better since you've been to ApacheCons in 2015, but I still find myself wondering what it will take to either 1) cause someone who wouldn't normally attend ApacheCon to show up to learn more about client-side stuff, or 2) cause someone who came to ApacheCon to learn about server-side stuff to attend a client-oriented talk. I also wonder if attendance numbers really matter. Are we competing for rooms against other tracks and won't get accepted based on past attendance records or will the conference organizers accept just about any track because they have space? If the former, we need to figure out how to get more folks to attend. I saw Justin do an introductory Flex presentation at ApacheCon in Portland. Justin does a really good job, but the question remains whether it is the right topic for the demographic we expect. Justin's presentation would be great at any 360|Flex, where people came to learn about Flex, but the people at the two ApacheCons I've attended seem different. Maybe making it more of an overview of the project by mixing in more about Mobile and AIR might make it more interesting to the server-side guy. IMO, it is unlikely the server-side person will become a Flex coder. But what could we present in an overview such that he/she learns something worth taking back to his client folks? Or maybe the server-oriented folks who attend still hear the echoes of negative news about Flash/AIR stuff and are less likely to show up unless we talk more about targeting JS. Or maybe the angle really should be that the server-side folks should learn Flex so they don't have to wait on the client team? Or maybe the content of the presentation is fine, but instead of a title like "Introduction to Flex" it should be something like "Rapid Cross-Platform Client and App Development with Apache Flex". I don't really know, just brainstorming. We keep hearing that AIR is winning as a runtime in many places. Are folks using Flex to create those AIR apps? Have we tried to tell folks about that at ApacheCon? I've seen other Apache projects not choose Flex for their cross-platform UI. Why is that? What could we say at ApacheCon that might make them choose Flex to build an AIR app? Anyway, I don't know how talks are selected for tracks, but I would imagine anything Justin wants to talk about that relates to Apache Flex would fit in the client category. Thoughts? -Alex
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Hi, > And of course, we need some cool titles to attract people. Justin gave a > talk titled - 'Treat your codebase like a crime scene'. I am sure it got a > lot of attention :-) It was well attended and I got a lot of feedback and carried on the conversation about the subject with several people after the conference which was nice. However while I used Flex as an example it wasn’t based on Flex. I am considering submitting it again. Thanks, Justin
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Hi, > Hey, do you want to share your thoughts on how to get a track approved? Based on previous experience you suggest the track with a summary of the talks. Means less effort for the organisers and reviewers and a higher chance it will be excepted. Thanks, Justin
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On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Well I was planning on doing a talk on "remote controlling cyborgs with > flex" ... the remote part being a Mobile Flex application, but I'm not > really deep into the mobile framework part ... just the mobile building > part as I had do to a deep dive into that for Flexmojos > > Hey, do you want to share your thoughts on how to get a track approved? Thanks, Om > Chris > > > Von: Justin Mclean > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 02:59 > An: dev@flex.apache.org > Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > > Hi, > > > I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile > > instead? > > Could do, most of the Flex mobile stuff I’ve done was several years ago so > I’m a bit rusty in that department. > > Perhaps someone else with more recent experience could submit something? > > Two talks are usually doable, but several times I’ve got 4 (out of 4 > submitted) and that's a bit too much. > > Thanks, > Justin >
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Well I was planning on doing a talk on "remote controlling cyborgs with flex" ... the remote part being a Mobile Flex application, but I'm not really deep into the mobile framework part ... just the mobile building part as I had do to a deep dive into that for Flexmojos Chris Von: Justin Mclean Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 02:59 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? Hi, > I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile > instead? Could do, most of the Flex mobile stuff I’ve done was several years ago so I’m a bit rusty in that department. Perhaps someone else with more recent experience could submit something? Two talks are usually doable, but several times I’ve got 4 (out of 4 submitted) and that's a bit too much. Thanks, Justin
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I think this would be equivalent of having a Node.js talk at a client conference. i.e. someone immersed in client side technologies will be interested in seeing what is a viable option among the server side technologies. Node.js seems familiar because it is Javascript based which means that client side folks can quickly ramp up with it. In the same way, we can highlight the fact that AS3 is closer to a language like Java which means that server side folks (who know java) can rapidly build web applications without having to learn a brand new type of language. Heck, this is why Flex got famous in the the first place. Enterprise Java developers could suddenly build cool looking front end apps! With FlexJS, it is the same. The jump for a Java dev to go to FlexJS/AS3 is much smaller than the one to Javascript/AngularJS etc. I guess this this is how we need to project Flex and FlexJS. And of course, we need some cool titles to attract people. Justin gave a talk titled - 'Treat your codebase like a crime scene'. I am sure it got a lot of attention :-) I think if there are enough number of people interested in creating a track, it wont be hard to make it happen. And then it is a matter of having sufficient number of talks in the track to fill the day(s) I hope Chris can shed more light on this process. Thanks, Om On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 2/3/16, 5:49 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > wrote: > > >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Justin Mclean > >wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Just worked out that I should be able to make it, not 100% sure what > >>I’ll > >> submit as a talk however. Would an Introduction to Flex fit into the > >>client > >> side track? > >> > > > >I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile > >instead? I would like to do it, but I wont have bandwidth for two talks > >in > >this conference. > > You guys would know better since you've been to ApacheCons in 2015, but I > still find myself wondering what it will take to either 1) cause someone > who wouldn't normally attend ApacheCon to show up to learn more about > client-side stuff, or 2) cause someone who came to ApacheCon to learn > about server-side stuff to attend a client-oriented talk. I also wonder > if attendance numbers really matter. Are we competing for rooms against > other tracks and won't get accepted based on past attendance records or > will the conference organizers accept just about any track because they > have space? If the former, we need to figure out how to get more folks to > attend. > > I saw Justin do an introductory Flex presentation at ApacheCon in > Portland. Justin does a really good job, but the question remains whether > it is the right topic for the demographic we expect. Justin's > presentation would be great at any 360|Flex, where people came to learn > about Flex, but the people at the two ApacheCons I've attended seem > different. Maybe making it more of an overview of the project by mixing > in more about Mobile and AIR might make it more interesting to the > server-side guy. IMO, it is unlikely the server-side person will become a > Flex coder. But what could we present in an overview such that he/she > learns something worth taking back to his client folks? Or maybe the > server-oriented folks who attend still hear the echoes of negative news > about Flash/AIR stuff and are less likely to show up unless we talk more > about targeting JS. Or maybe the angle really should be that the > server-side folks should learn Flex so they don't have to wait on the > client team? Or maybe the content of the presentation is fine, but > instead of a title like "Introduction to Flex" it should be something like > "Rapid Cross-Platform Client and App Development with Apache Flex". I > don't really know, just brainstorming. > > We keep hearing that AIR is winning as a runtime in many places. Are > folks using Flex to create those AIR apps? Have we tried to tell folks > about that at ApacheCon? I've seen other Apache projects not choose Flex > for their cross-platform UI. Why is that? What could we say at ApacheCon > that might make them choose Flex to build an AIR app? > > Anyway, I don't know how talks are selected for tracks, but I would > imagine anything Justin wants to talk about that relates to Apache Flex > would fit in the client category. > > Thoughts? > -Alex > >
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On 2/3/16, 5:49 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Justin Mclean >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just worked out that I should be able to make it, not 100% sure what >>I’ll >> submit as a talk however. Would an Introduction to Flex fit into the >>client >> side track? >> > >I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile >instead? I would like to do it, but I wont have bandwidth for two talks >in >this conference. You guys would know better since you've been to ApacheCons in 2015, but I still find myself wondering what it will take to either 1) cause someone who wouldn't normally attend ApacheCon to show up to learn more about client-side stuff, or 2) cause someone who came to ApacheCon to learn about server-side stuff to attend a client-oriented talk. I also wonder if attendance numbers really matter. Are we competing for rooms against other tracks and won't get accepted based on past attendance records or will the conference organizers accept just about any track because they have space? If the former, we need to figure out how to get more folks to attend. I saw Justin do an introductory Flex presentation at ApacheCon in Portland. Justin does a really good job, but the question remains whether it is the right topic for the demographic we expect. Justin's presentation would be great at any 360|Flex, where people came to learn about Flex, but the people at the two ApacheCons I've attended seem different. Maybe making it more of an overview of the project by mixing in more about Mobile and AIR might make it more interesting to the server-side guy. IMO, it is unlikely the server-side person will become a Flex coder. But what could we present in an overview such that he/she learns something worth taking back to his client folks? Or maybe the server-oriented folks who attend still hear the echoes of negative news about Flash/AIR stuff and are less likely to show up unless we talk more about targeting JS. Or maybe the angle really should be that the server-side folks should learn Flex so they don't have to wait on the client team? Or maybe the content of the presentation is fine, but instead of a title like "Introduction to Flex" it should be something like "Rapid Cross-Platform Client and App Development with Apache Flex". I don't really know, just brainstorming. We keep hearing that AIR is winning as a runtime in many places. Are folks using Flex to create those AIR apps? Have we tried to tell folks about that at ApacheCon? I've seen other Apache projects not choose Flex for their cross-platform UI. Why is that? What could we say at ApacheCon that might make them choose Flex to build an AIR app? Anyway, I don't know how talks are selected for tracks, but I would imagine anything Justin wants to talk about that relates to Apache Flex would fit in the client category. Thoughts? -Alex
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Have you tried -compiler.strict=false?
Or window.var2 = "world"
-Alex
On 2/3/16, 6:32 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
wrote:
>Okay, you can't do this in AS3 :-)
>
>function foo()
>{
> var var1 = "hello";
> var2 = "world"; // global variable
>}
>
>In other words, AS3 is always in "use strict" mode!
>
>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Josh Tynjala
>wrote:
>
>> Can't you?
>>
>> package
>> {
>> public var globalVar:String = "global";
>> }
>>
>> - Josh
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:34 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 2/1/16, 11:17 AM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>> > Muppirala"
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Alex Harui
>>wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> 12 days to go. I pinged the Cordova person this morning. I
>>think
>> it
>> > > >> might be time to send an email to committers@ to see if there is
>> more
>> > > >> interest in a Client track from other groups. Thoughts?
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >+1
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I'm thinking of proposing a talk called something like: "FlexJS
>>and
>> > > >> ActionScript: Apache's Structured Language Solution for
>>Clients".
>> I
>> > > >> would try to show how we can build web apps, desktop apps and
>>mobile
>> > > >>apps
>> > > >> all with or without Flash.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >+1
>> > > >
>> > > >I was thinking of doing something along the lines of 'True OOP on
>>the
>> > web
>> > > >using Apache FlexJS and Apache Flex Falcon'. I want to cover the
>> basics
>> > > >of
>> > > >Classes, Interfaces, Design Patterns, Web Components, Shadow DOM,
>>etc.
>> > > >using ActionScript3.
>> > > >
>> > > >I am open to suggestions about this talk, including a better title
>>;-)
>> > >
>> > > Sounds like a good topic.
>> > >
>> > > Given the bias of ApacheCon to server-side folks, we should probably
>> try
>> > > to think of titles that will make them curious enough to attend with
>> hope
>> > > that they'd go back and tell their client-side people to check it
>>out.
>> > > I'm not really expecting this client track to draw a new client-side
>> > > demographic to ApacheCon, but I could certainly be wrong and would
>>love
>> > to
>> > > be wrong about it.
>> > >
>> > > For example, I seriously considered the title of my talk to be
>>"What?
>> > You
>> > > are still coding in JavaScript?" And yours could be "Anything you
>>can
>> do
>> > > in JavaScript, you can do with FlexJS and ActionScript".
>> > >
>> >
>> > Except that you can't do everything in AS3 that you can do in JS. You
>> > can't create global variables in AS3 :-)
>> >
>> > In any case, any updates on the Client Track? Is there a discussion
>> going
>> > on somewhere?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Om
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > -Alex
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On 2/3/16, 5:34 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: > >In any case, any updates on the Client Track? Is there a discussion going >on somewhere? Haven't heard back from the Cordova person to ensure they are on board. I guess I'll ping him in the morning then open the discussion either way. -Alex
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Okay, you can't do this in AS3 :-)
function foo()
{
var var1 = "hello";
var2 = "world"; // global variable
}
In other words, AS3 is always in "use strict" mode!
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Josh Tynjala wrote:
> Can't you?
>
> package
> {
> public var globalVar:String = "global";
> }
>
> - Josh
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:34 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/1/16, 11:17 AM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> > Muppirala"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> 12 days to go. I pinged the Cordova person this morning. I think
> it
> > > >> might be time to send an email to committers@ to see if there is
> more
> > > >> interest in a Client track from other groups. Thoughts?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >+1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm thinking of proposing a talk called something like: "FlexJS and
> > > >> ActionScript: Apache's Structured Language Solution for Clients".
> I
> > > >> would try to show how we can build web apps, desktop apps and mobile
> > > >>apps
> > > >> all with or without Flash.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >+1
> > > >
> > > >I was thinking of doing something along the lines of 'True OOP on the
> > web
> > > >using Apache FlexJS and Apache Flex Falcon'. I want to cover the
> basics
> > > >of
> > > >Classes, Interfaces, Design Patterns, Web Components, Shadow DOM, etc.
> > > >using ActionScript3.
> > > >
> > > >I am open to suggestions about this talk, including a better title ;-)
> > >
> > > Sounds like a good topic.
> > >
> > > Given the bias of ApacheCon to server-side folks, we should probably
> try
> > > to think of titles that will make them curious enough to attend with
> hope
> > > that they'd go back and tell their client-side people to check it out.
> > > I'm not really expecting this client track to draw a new client-side
> > > demographic to ApacheCon, but I could certainly be wrong and would love
> > to
> > > be wrong about it.
> > >
> > > For example, I seriously considered the title of my talk to be "What?
> > You
> > > are still coding in JavaScript?" And yours could be "Anything you can
> do
> > > in JavaScript, you can do with FlexJS and ActionScript".
> > >
> >
> > Except that you can't do everything in AS3 that you can do in JS. You
> > can't create global variables in AS3 :-)
> >
> > In any case, any updates on the Client Track? Is there a discussion
> going
> > on somewhere?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Can't you?
package
{
public var globalVar:String = "global";
}
- Josh
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:34 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 2/1/16, 11:17 AM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> Muppirala"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> > >
> > >> 12 days to go. I pinged the Cordova person this morning. I think it
> > >> might be time to send an email to committers@ to see if there is more
> > >> interest in a Client track from other groups. Thoughts?
> > >>
> > >
> > >+1
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I'm thinking of proposing a talk called something like: "FlexJS and
> > >> ActionScript: Apache's Structured Language Solution for Clients". I
> > >> would try to show how we can build web apps, desktop apps and mobile
> > >>apps
> > >> all with or without Flash.
> > >>
> > >
> > >+1
> > >
> > >I was thinking of doing something along the lines of 'True OOP on the
> web
> > >using Apache FlexJS and Apache Flex Falcon'. I want to cover the basics
> > >of
> > >Classes, Interfaces, Design Patterns, Web Components, Shadow DOM, etc.
> > >using ActionScript3.
> > >
> > >I am open to suggestions about this talk, including a better title ;-)
> >
> > Sounds like a good topic.
> >
> > Given the bias of ApacheCon to server-side folks, we should probably try
> > to think of titles that will make them curious enough to attend with hope
> > that they'd go back and tell their client-side people to check it out.
> > I'm not really expecting this client track to draw a new client-side
> > demographic to ApacheCon, but I could certainly be wrong and would love
> to
> > be wrong about it.
> >
> > For example, I seriously considered the title of my talk to be "What?
> You
> > are still coding in JavaScript?" And yours could be "Anything you can do
> > in JavaScript, you can do with FlexJS and ActionScript".
> >
>
> Except that you can't do everything in AS3 that you can do in JS. You
> can't create global variables in AS3 :-)
>
> In any case, any updates on the Client Track? Is there a discussion going
> on somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> >
>
Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile > > instead? > > Could do, most of the Flex mobile stuff I’ve done was several years ago so > I’m a bit rusty in that department. > > Perhaps someone else with more recent experience could submit something? > You (or anyone else) can feel free to re-purpose these slides from my ApacheCon 2015 presentation: http://www.slideshare.net/bigosmallm/flex-mobile-apachecon-2015 > > Two talks are usually doable, but several times I’ve got 4 (out of 4 > submitted) and that's a bit too much. > More than one is too much stress for me :-) Thanks, Om > > Thanks, > Justin
Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Hi, > I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile > instead? Could do, most of the Flex mobile stuff I’ve done was several years ago so I’m a bit rusty in that department. Perhaps someone else with more recent experience could submit something? Two talks are usually doable, but several times I’ve got 4 (out of 4 submitted) and that's a bit too much. Thanks, Justin
Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Just worked out that I should be able to make it, not 100% sure what I’ll > submit as a talk however. Would an Introduction to Flex fit into the client > side track? > I think it would. Would you be open to doing a talk on Flex Mobile instead? I would like to do it, but I wont have bandwidth for two talks in this conference. Thanks, Om > > Thanks, > Justin
Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Hi, Just worked out that I should be able to make it, not 100% sure what I’ll submit as a talk however. Would an Introduction to Flex fit into the client side track? Thanks, Justin
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 2/1/16, 11:17 AM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > wrote: > > >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > >> 12 days to go. I pinged the Cordova person this morning. I think it > >> might be time to send an email to committers@ to see if there is more > >> interest in a Client track from other groups. Thoughts? > >> > > > >+1 > > > > > >> > >> I'm thinking of proposing a talk called something like: "FlexJS and > >> ActionScript: Apache's Structured Language Solution for Clients". I > >> would try to show how we can build web apps, desktop apps and mobile > >>apps > >> all with or without Flash. > >> > > > >+1 > > > >I was thinking of doing something along the lines of 'True OOP on the web > >using Apache FlexJS and Apache Flex Falcon'. I want to cover the basics > >of > >Classes, Interfaces, Design Patterns, Web Components, Shadow DOM, etc. > >using ActionScript3. > > > >I am open to suggestions about this talk, including a better title ;-) > > Sounds like a good topic. > > Given the bias of ApacheCon to server-side folks, we should probably try > to think of titles that will make them curious enough to attend with hope > that they'd go back and tell their client-side people to check it out. > I'm not really expecting this client track to draw a new client-side > demographic to ApacheCon, but I could certainly be wrong and would love to > be wrong about it. > > For example, I seriously considered the title of my talk to be "What? You > are still coding in JavaScript?" And yours could be "Anything you can do > in JavaScript, you can do with FlexJS and ActionScript". > Except that you can't do everything in AS3 that you can do in JS. You can't create global variables in AS3 :-) In any case, any updates on the Client Track? Is there a discussion going on somewhere? Thanks, Om > > -Alex > >
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On 2/1/16, 11:17 AM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> 12 days to go. I pinged the Cordova person this morning. I think it >> might be time to send an email to committers@ to see if there is more >> interest in a Client track from other groups. Thoughts? >> > >+1 > > >> >> I'm thinking of proposing a talk called something like: "FlexJS and >> ActionScript: Apache's Structured Language Solution for Clients". I >> would try to show how we can build web apps, desktop apps and mobile >>apps >> all with or without Flash. >> > >+1 > >I was thinking of doing something along the lines of 'True OOP on the web >using Apache FlexJS and Apache Flex Falcon'. I want to cover the basics >of >Classes, Interfaces, Design Patterns, Web Components, Shadow DOM, etc. >using ActionScript3. > >I am open to suggestions about this talk, including a better title ;-) Sounds like a good topic. Given the bias of ApacheCon to server-side folks, we should probably try to think of titles that will make them curious enough to attend with hope that they'd go back and tell their client-side people to check it out. I'm not really expecting this client track to draw a new client-side demographic to ApacheCon, but I could certainly be wrong and would love to be wrong about it. For example, I seriously considered the title of my talk to be "What? You are still coding in JavaScript?" And yours could be "Anything you can do in JavaScript, you can do with FlexJS and ActionScript". -Alex
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > 12 days to go. I pinged the Cordova person this morning. I think it > might be time to send an email to committers@ to see if there is more > interest in a Client track from other groups. Thoughts? > +1 > > I'm thinking of proposing a talk called something like: "FlexJS and > ActionScript: Apache's Structured Language Solution for Clients". I > would try to show how we can build web apps, desktop apps and mobile apps > all with or without Flash. > +1 I was thinking of doing something along the lines of 'True OOP on the web using Apache FlexJS and Apache Flex Falcon'. I want to cover the basics of Classes, Interfaces, Design Patterns, Web Components, Shadow DOM, etc. using ActionScript3. I am open to suggestions about this talk, including a better title ;-) Thanks, Om > > Thoughts? > -Alex > > On 1/25/16, 4:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > wrote: > > >On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Christofer Dutz > > > >wrote: > > > >> But a cordova track would exclude my planned IoT + Mobile + Flex talk as > >> it currently relies on Flex > >> > > > >The proposal is to create a 'Client Track' that includes any and all > >topics > >under Flex and Cordova (and any other Apache 'Client' projects that decide > >to jump in) In this approach you have a good chance of your talk included > >as well. > > > >Thanks, > >Om > > > > > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >> Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] > >> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Januar 2016 16:26 > >> An: dev@flex.apache.org > >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/9/16, 2:03 AM, "Christofer Dutz" > wrote: > >> > >> >+1 > >> > > >> >Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. > >> > > >> > >> Yes, because it is about integrating your client build environment with > >> the rest of your builds, right? > >> > >> I will ping some Cordova people this weekend or next week. > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> > >
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
12 days to go. I pinged the Cordova person this morning. I think it might be time to send an email to committers@ to see if there is more interest in a Client track from other groups. Thoughts? I'm thinking of proposing a talk called something like: "FlexJS and ActionScript: Apache's Structured Language Solution for Clients". I would try to show how we can build web apps, desktop apps and mobile apps all with or without Flash. Thoughts? -Alex On 1/25/16, 4:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Christofer Dutz > >wrote: > >> But a cordova track would exclude my planned IoT + Mobile + Flex talk as >> it currently relies on Flex >> > >The proposal is to create a 'Client Track' that includes any and all >topics >under Flex and Cordova (and any other Apache 'Client' projects that decide >to jump in) In this approach you have a good chance of your talk included >as well. > >Thanks, >Om > > >> >> Chris >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] >> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Januar 2016 16:26 >> An: dev@flex.apache.org >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? >> >> >> >> On 1/9/16, 2:03 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >> >> >+1 >> > >> >Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. >> > >> >> Yes, because it is about integrating your client build environment with >> the rest of your builds, right? >> >> I will ping some Cordova people this weekend or next week. >> >> -Alex >> >>
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote: > But a cordova track would exclude my planned IoT + Mobile + Flex talk as > it currently relies on Flex > The proposal is to create a 'Client Track' that includes any and all topics under Flex and Cordova (and any other Apache 'Client' projects that decide to jump in) In this approach you have a good chance of your talk included as well. Thanks, Om > > Chris > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Januar 2016 16:26 > An: dev@flex.apache.org > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > > > > On 1/9/16, 2:03 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > > >+1 > > > >Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. > > > > Yes, because it is about integrating your client build environment with > the rest of your builds, right? > > I will ping some Cordova people this weekend or next week. > > -Alex > >
AW: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
But a cordova track would exclude my planned IoT + Mobile + Flex talk as it currently relies on Flex Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Januar 2016 16:26 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? On 1/9/16, 2:03 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >+1 > >Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. > Yes, because it is about integrating your client build environment with the rest of your builds, right? I will ping some Cordova people this weekend or next week. -Alex
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Well, the public snippets would be things like: ApacheCon continues to feel like more of a server-side conference and we don't get much attendance at our talks. And Apparently it helps to have a track of presentations in order to get a presentation accepted and I'm wondering if it would be of interest to the Cordova folks to join with Flex folks to have a "Client-side" track. Especially since some of our FlexJS talks will touch on using Cordova to output Mobile apps starting from MXML and ActionScript. -Alex On 1/19/16, 2:30 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >Sure, I can contact them. Can you forward the details you sent to the >Cordova team member? If that is not for public consumption, I can write a >new email to the Wicket folks. > >Thanks, >Om > >On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> >> >> On 1/19/16, 12:44 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash >>Muppirala" >> wrote: >> >> >On Jan 19, 2016 10:58 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, I finally got a response from a Cordova person. They are >>interested >> >> in the client-side track idea. Once they get approval from their dev >> >> list, we should submit talks and do more coordination. I think >>instead >> >>of >> >> cross posting to both dev@ lists, maybe we should try the wider >> >> dev@community.a.o mailing list to see if other projects want to >>submit >> >>for >> >> this track. >> > >> >+1 >> > >> >Although we should also sent private emails to protects like Wicket as >> >well. >> >> Well, I contacted the Cordova person off-list just to test the waters. >>I >> don't have any contacts at Wicket. I figure Wicket and other projects >> should be watching dev@community for ApacheCon news anyway. But feel >>free >> to contact them if you want. >> >> -Alex >> >>
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Sure, I can contact them. Can you forward the details you sent to the Cordova team member? If that is not for public consumption, I can write a new email to the Wicket folks. Thanks, Om On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 1/19/16, 12:44 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > wrote: > > >On Jan 19, 2016 10:58 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > >> > >> OK, I finally got a response from a Cordova person. They are interested > >> in the client-side track idea. Once they get approval from their dev > >> list, we should submit talks and do more coordination. I think instead > >>of > >> cross posting to both dev@ lists, maybe we should try the wider > >> dev@community.a.o mailing list to see if other projects want to submit > >>for > >> this track. > > > >+1 > > > >Although we should also sent private emails to protects like Wicket as > >well. > > Well, I contacted the Cordova person off-list just to test the waters. I > don't have any contacts at Wicket. I figure Wicket and other projects > should be watching dev@community for ApacheCon news anyway. But feel free > to contact them if you want. > > -Alex > >
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On 1/19/16, 12:44 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Jan 19, 2016 10:58 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >> >> OK, I finally got a response from a Cordova person. They are interested >> in the client-side track idea. Once they get approval from their dev >> list, we should submit talks and do more coordination. I think instead >>of >> cross posting to both dev@ lists, maybe we should try the wider >> dev@community.a.o mailing list to see if other projects want to submit >>for >> this track. > >+1 > >Although we should also sent private emails to protects like Wicket as >well. Well, I contacted the Cordova person off-list just to test the waters. I don't have any contacts at Wicket. I figure Wicket and other projects should be watching dev@community for ApacheCon news anyway. But feel free to contact them if you want. -Alex
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On Jan 19, 2016 10:58 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > OK, I finally got a response from a Cordova person. They are interested > in the client-side track idea. Once they get approval from their dev > list, we should submit talks and do more coordination. I think instead of > cross posting to both dev@ lists, maybe we should try the wider > dev@community.a.o mailing list to see if other projects want to submit for > this track. +1 Although we should also sent private emails to protects like Wicket as well. Thanks, Om > > Thoughts? > > -Alex > > On 1/9/16, 7:26 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > > > > > >On 1/9/16, 2:03 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > > > >>+1 > >> > >>Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. > >> > > > >Yes, because it is about integrating your client build environment with > >the rest of your builds, right? > > > >I will ping some Cordova people this weekend or next week. > > > >-Alex > > >
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
OK, I finally got a response from a Cordova person. They are interested in the client-side track idea. Once they get approval from their dev list, we should submit talks and do more coordination. I think instead of cross posting to both dev@ lists, maybe we should try the wider dev@community.a.o mailing list to see if other projects want to submit for this track. Thoughts? -Alex On 1/9/16, 7:26 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > >On 1/9/16, 2:03 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > >>+1 >> >>Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. >> > >Yes, because it is about integrating your client build environment with >the rest of your builds, right? > >I will ping some Cordova people this weekend or next week. > >-Alex >
Re: AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On 1/9/16, 2:03 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >+1 > >Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. > Yes, because it is about integrating your client build environment with the rest of your builds, right? I will ping some Cordova people this weekend or next week. -Alex
AW: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
+1 Would the FlexJS/Flex & Maven talk fit to that? I think it would. Chris Von: omup...@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Januar 2016 18:36 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? On Jan 8, 2016 9:17 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > I've been wondering if there should be a "Client" track as an umbrella for > both Flex and Cordova talks. Especially since FlexJS Mobile is output via > Cordova. If folks think that's a good idea I will hit up the Cordova > folks I know to see what they think. +1 for a Client track. Although we will be doing not just FlexJS, but also Flex web and Flex Mobile (which is kinda like a competitor to Cordova) Apache Wicket might be a good target as well. Thanks, Om > > -Alex > > On 1/8/16, 1:56 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > > >A track makes it easier to get at least enough talks for the track > >selected. Without a track it has to sort of fit into another track. > >Depending on how they cut the tracks this could be difficult. We we want > >to go for a track, I could re-submit updated versions of my last > >submissions regarding BlazeDS and FlexJS support in Maven. > > > >But my stomach sort of tells me that it could be difficult to get a track > >as the attendee numbers weren't great last time. That's why I was > >intending on submitting something Flexy under the hood of a different > >track (After all ... the (mobile) frontend and backend (BlazeDS) will be > >Apache Flex) ;-) > > > >If we want a track, I could try to take care of this ... but only if > >there is interest in this ... I remember feeling left a little alone with > >the content at first for ApacheCon EU last time (Thanks to Justin and Om > >it wasn't a big problem though :-) ) > > > >Chris > > > >____________ > >Von: omup...@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash > >Muppirala > >Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Januar 2016 00:57 > >An: dev@flex.apache.org > >Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > > > >On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On 1/7/16, 3:46 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > >> wrote: > >> > >> >I would like to propose something on FlexJS or Flex Mobile, depending > >>on > >> >what others are doing. > >> > > >> >Should we ask for a Flex track here as well? > >> > >> Don't we have to have a track to get Flex sessions accepted at all? > >> > > > >Not necessarily. If we have a track, there is a better chance of Flex > >talks being accepted. If we don't, then it is up in the air as to which > >ones get selected. At least, that's the impression I got from the > >ApacheCon EU selection process. > > > > > >> > >> You seem a bit more interested in the JS.swc usage. Do you want to do a > >> session on that? > >> > > > >Sure, that would be fun. We need to come up with a cool name for 'JS.swc > >usage'. We have been lumping everything under FlexJS, which seems wrong. > > > >It would be nice if someone else did a talk on Flex Mobile. Any takers? > >You don't have to be a committer or a PMC member to give a talk. > > > >Thanks, > >Om > > > > > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> >
Re: AW: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On Jan 8, 2016 9:17 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > I've been wondering if there should be a "Client" track as an umbrella for > both Flex and Cordova talks. Especially since FlexJS Mobile is output via > Cordova. If folks think that's a good idea I will hit up the Cordova > folks I know to see what they think. +1 for a Client track. Although we will be doing not just FlexJS, but also Flex web and Flex Mobile (which is kinda like a competitor to Cordova) Apache Wicket might be a good target as well. Thanks, Om > > -Alex > > On 1/8/16, 1:56 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > > >A track makes it easier to get at least enough talks for the track > >selected. Without a track it has to sort of fit into another track. > >Depending on how they cut the tracks this could be difficult. We we want > >to go for a track, I could re-submit updated versions of my last > >submissions regarding BlazeDS and FlexJS support in Maven. > > > >But my stomach sort of tells me that it could be difficult to get a track > >as the attendee numbers weren't great last time. That's why I was > >intending on submitting something Flexy under the hood of a different > >track (After all ... the (mobile) frontend and backend (BlazeDS) will be > >Apache Flex) ;-) > > > >If we want a track, I could try to take care of this ... but only if > >there is interest in this ... I remember feeling left a little alone with > >the content at first for ApacheCon EU last time (Thanks to Justin and Om > >it wasn't a big problem though :-) ) > > > >Chris > > > >________________ > >Von: omup...@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash > >Muppirala > >Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Januar 2016 00:57 > >An: dev@flex.apache.org > >Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > > > >On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On 1/7/16, 3:46 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > >> wrote: > >> > >> >I would like to propose something on FlexJS or Flex Mobile, depending > >>on > >> >what others are doing. > >> > > >> >Should we ask for a Flex track here as well? > >> > >> Don't we have to have a track to get Flex sessions accepted at all? > >> > > > >Not necessarily. If we have a track, there is a better chance of Flex > >talks being accepted. If we don't, then it is up in the air as to which > >ones get selected. At least, that's the impression I got from the > >ApacheCon EU selection process. > > > > > >> > >> You seem a bit more interested in the JS.swc usage. Do you want to do a > >> session on that? > >> > > > >Sure, that would be fun. We need to come up with a cool name for 'JS.swc > >usage'. We have been lumping everything under FlexJS, which seems wrong. > > > >It would be nice if someone else did a talk on Flex Mobile. Any takers? > >You don't have to be a committer or a PMC member to give a talk. > > > >Thanks, > >Om > > > > > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> >
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I've been wondering if there should be a "Client" track as an umbrella for both Flex and Cordova talks. Especially since FlexJS Mobile is output via Cordova. If folks think that's a good idea I will hit up the Cordova folks I know to see what they think. -Alex On 1/8/16, 1:56 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >A track makes it easier to get at least enough talks for the track >selected. Without a track it has to sort of fit into another track. >Depending on how they cut the tracks this could be difficult. We we want >to go for a track, I could re-submit updated versions of my last >submissions regarding BlazeDS and FlexJS support in Maven. > >But my stomach sort of tells me that it could be difficult to get a track >as the attendee numbers weren't great last time. That's why I was >intending on submitting something Flexy under the hood of a different >track (After all ... the (mobile) frontend and backend (BlazeDS) will be >Apache Flex) ;-) > >If we want a track, I could try to take care of this ... but only if >there is interest in this ... I remember feeling left a little alone with >the content at first for ApacheCon EU last time (Thanks to Justin and Om >it wasn't a big problem though :-) ) > >Chris > > >Von: omup...@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash >Muppirala >Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Januar 2016 00:57 >An: dev@flex.apache.org >Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > >On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> >> >> On 1/7/16, 3:46 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" >> wrote: >> >> >I would like to propose something on FlexJS or Flex Mobile, depending >>on >> >what others are doing. >> > >> >Should we ask for a Flex track here as well? >> >> Don't we have to have a track to get Flex sessions accepted at all? >> > >Not necessarily. If we have a track, there is a better chance of Flex >talks being accepted. If we don't, then it is up in the air as to which >ones get selected. At least, that's the impression I got from the >ApacheCon EU selection process. > > >> >> You seem a bit more interested in the JS.swc usage. Do you want to do a >> session on that? >> > >Sure, that would be fun. We need to come up with a cool name for 'JS.swc >usage'. We have been lumping everything under FlexJS, which seems wrong. > >It would be nice if someone else did a talk on Flex Mobile. Any takers? >You don't have to be a committer or a PMC member to give a talk. > >Thanks, >Om > > >> >> -Alex >> >>
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A track makes it easier to get at least enough talks for the track selected. Without a track it has to sort of fit into another track. Depending on how they cut the tracks this could be difficult. We we want to go for a track, I could re-submit updated versions of my last submissions regarding BlazeDS and FlexJS support in Maven. But my stomach sort of tells me that it could be difficult to get a track as the attendee numbers weren't great last time. That's why I was intending on submitting something Flexy under the hood of a different track (After all ... the (mobile) frontend and backend (BlazeDS) will be Apache Flex) ;-) If we want a track, I could try to take care of this ... but only if there is interest in this ... I remember feeling left a little alone with the content at first for ApacheCon EU last time (Thanks to Justin and Om it wasn't a big problem though :-) ) Chris Von: omup...@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Januar 2016 00:57 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 1/7/16, 3:46 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > wrote: > > >I would like to propose something on FlexJS or Flex Mobile, depending on > >what others are doing. > > > >Should we ask for a Flex track here as well? > > Don't we have to have a track to get Flex sessions accepted at all? > Not necessarily. If we have a track, there is a better chance of Flex talks being accepted. If we don't, then it is up in the air as to which ones get selected. At least, that's the impression I got from the ApacheCon EU selection process. > > You seem a bit more interested in the JS.swc usage. Do you want to do a > session on that? > Sure, that would be fun. We need to come up with a cool name for 'JS.swc usage'. We have been lumping everything under FlexJS, which seems wrong. It would be nice if someone else did a talk on Flex Mobile. Any takers? You don't have to be a committer or a PMC member to give a talk. Thanks, Om > > -Alex > >
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 1/7/16, 3:46 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" > wrote: > > >I would like to propose something on FlexJS or Flex Mobile, depending on > >what others are doing. > > > >Should we ask for a Flex track here as well? > > Don't we have to have a track to get Flex sessions accepted at all? > Not necessarily. If we have a track, there is a better chance of Flex talks being accepted. If we don't, then it is up in the air as to which ones get selected. At least, that's the impression I got from the ApacheCon EU selection process. > > You seem a bit more interested in the JS.swc usage. Do you want to do a > session on that? > Sure, that would be fun. We need to come up with a cool name for 'JS.swc usage'. We have been lumping everything under FlexJS, which seems wrong. It would be nice if someone else did a talk on Flex Mobile. Any takers? You don't have to be a committer or a PMC member to give a talk. Thanks, Om > > -Alex > >
Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
On 1/7/16, 3:46 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >I would like to propose something on FlexJS or Flex Mobile, depending on >what others are doing. > >Should we ask for a Flex track here as well? Don't we have to have a track to get Flex sessions accepted at all? You seem a bit more interested in the JS.swc usage. Do you want to do a session on that? -Alex
Re: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
I would like to propose something on FlexJS or Flex Mobile, depending on what others are doing. Should we ask for a Flex track here as well? Thanks, Om On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Hi, > > Well I'm currently building a little robot. On that I'll be running > BlazeDS to communicate with a Mobile App ... hopefully I'll be finished > with the hardware part in a Week or so. As soon as that's done I'll submit > some Mobile, IoT related talk to the "ApacheCon NA - Core". If that talk is > accepted, I'll be going. If not it would be hard for me to get that request > past my employer ;-) > > Chris > > > Von: Alex Harui > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2016 18:19 > An: dev@flex.apache.org > Betreff: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? > > Hi, > > There is one month to go to submit presentations for ApacheCon North > America (in Vancouver, British Columbia May 12-13, 2016). > > I can do a FlexJS overview or deep-dive or something like that. What have > other's submitted in the Flex arena (or are planning to submit)? > > Thanks, > -Alex > >
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Hi, Well I'm currently building a little robot. On that I'll be running BlazeDS to communicate with a Mobile App ... hopefully I'll be finished with the hardware part in a Week or so. As soon as that's done I'll submit some Mobile, IoT related talk to the "ApacheCon NA - Core". If that talk is accepted, I'll be going. If not it would be hard for me to get that request past my employer ;-) Chris Von: Alex Harui Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2016 18:19 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: [ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics? Hi, There is one month to go to submit presentations for ApacheCon North America (in Vancouver, British Columbia May 12-13, 2016). I can do a FlexJS overview or deep-dive or something like that. What have other's submitted in the Flex arena (or are planning to submit)? Thanks, -Alex
[ApacheCon NA] Whose going and what topics?
Hi, There is one month to go to submit presentations for ApacheCon North America (in Vancouver, British Columbia May 12-13, 2016). I can do a FlexJS overview or deep-dive or something like that. What have other's submitted in the Flex arena (or are planning to submit)? Thanks, -Alex
