[marketing-dev] Re: OPENOFFICE FOR TABLETS

2011-08-06 Thread Andy Brown

eric b wrote:

Hi,


Le 6 août 11 à 05:47, Andy Brown a écrit :


Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:


If so, and I believe mine eyes, then bango wango!



LibreOffice has a team



A Team ? How many people ? /me curious :-)



working on a port to Android so it may just happen.




IMHO, nothing in LO is currently adapted to such machines and operating
system, but if you pretend this, you should have serious proofs ?

I'm curious to see what could happen so fast, really. I had in mind a
lot of changes in the code, and even more.


Last but not least, EducOOo is working on ARM port too. Not Android, but
only Linux ( Debian, Ubuntu, Archlinux .. ).

And if some "mecene" is interested to help us, we (EducOOo) work with
schools and students, and reverse the code to OpenOffice.org (unlike
LibreOffice).



Regards,
Eric Bachard



Eric,

I am not sure how many are on the team.  Italo of the SC is the one that 
brought it up.  See for your self. 
http://blip.tv/flourish-conference/libreoffice-and-the-document-foundation-5005407 
.


I have no reason to make this up.

Andy
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[marketing-dev] Re: OPENOFFICE FOR TABLETS

2011-08-05 Thread Andy Brown

Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

Stephen, et al.
I replied privately to Mrs Evaggelou, and pointed out that though OOo 3.3.x is 
licensed LGPL v3., the trademark for same is owned by Oracle and is not open 
source or copyleft: it is copyright.

Since then, she has indicated her desire to put the app on tablets. I 
underscored that she does not have permission to use the trademarks. Once the 
transition to Apache is finalized in this matter, I assume things will be 
clearer.

As to the meat of the matter: OOo on a tablet? let's see it.

:-)

If so, and I believe mine eyes, then bango wango!



LibreOffice has a team working on a port to Android so it may just happen.

Andy
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[marketing-dev] Re: OpenOffice.org to become an Apache Foundation Incubator Project

2011-06-02 Thread Andy Brown

Hi Berhard, all.

Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Simon, all,

Please make sure that Apache Software Foundation gets notice about the
large area of non-coding community in our projects.

As far as I know, their meritocratic system is only based on code
contribution, so none of the other community members will be able to
become part of the OpenOffice Apache project or the Apache community, if
they don't change the way they handle contributions.

So if you start to be involved in their decision making process, please
describe them the broadness of our community.


Start here.. http://community.apache.org/contributors/index.html .. 
Like OOo there is no need to worry anyone can be a contributor.



While Rob Weir (IBM) seems to have an interest in dividing the community
in a Apache based coding community and a different supporting one
(outside Apache, no mention about their infrastructure), I don't think
that this should be the way to go.

The question of giving up LGPL for the Apache license might be a
marketing topic too:

As this would allow companies to just take the code and include their
patches in their own commercial product only, support of the common code
basis might be reduced in future.


I see no change as this is seems to be the way it has worked under 
Sun/Oracle.  By special agreement IBM has not returned code to OOo upstream.



... Especially as open source enthusiastic developers (mostly
independent or related to Linux distributions) have told us over and
over again that they feel exploited by such commercial interests without
getting something back...

Best regards

Bernhard


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[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Andy Brown

Davide Dozza wrote:


Time is come. As still member of OOo community I *strongly* believe that
such discussion should be made in public.
Otherwise we (the community) still fall into our "narrow concers" as it
was during last ten years.


It is to bad that the "Community" does not have anything to do with 
this.  Oracle holds the trademark and copyright to OpenOffice.org.  This 
discussion should be happening between Oracle and TDF with the community 
being kept informed of the process/progress, if any.



Community deserves at least a minimum of clarity on OOo future.
TDF is a possible place to reunify the community and there is nothing
else on the horizon.


Yes, we the community, deserves a lot of clarification on the future of 
OOo.  But that will have to come from Oracle not TDF.  As a personal 
point of view I hope that a new foundation will be formed.


Andy
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[marketing-dev] Re: ping

2011-05-11 Thread Andy Brown

Peter Junge wrote:

pong

On 05/11/2011 09:02 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

ping

--
*Alexandro Colorado*
*OpenOffice.org* Español
http://es.openoffice.org



Is this what we have been reduced to?

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[marketing-dev] Re: Requesting permission to use your product for a project

2011-04-26 Thread Andy Brown

Mahmood H. Chowdhury wrote:

To Whom It May Concern,

My name is Mahmood Chowdhury, and I am planning on starting an
e-learning service that will allow people to be familiar with open
source software and give them the opportunity to learn to use those
software through video tutorial (including e-learning software).

I would like to request permission from you so I can make a video
tutorial based on OpenOffice software suite.

Thanking You,
Sincerely,

--
Mahmood H. Chowdhury

/mhabibchowdh...@gmail.com/



You need to a start at  http://distribution.openoffice.org/  scroll down 
to the section "Derived works".



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[marketing-dev] Re: suggestion box? Re: OOoCon 2010 videos

2011-03-31 Thread Andy Brown

Joomi Lee wrote:

My version doesn't do that.



Please learn how to reply to a message.

Which version are you using?  Which operating system, it may make a 
difference.


Andy

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[marketing-dev] Re: suggestion box? Re: OOoCon 2010 videos

2011-03-29 Thread Andy Brown

Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 15:34 -0700, Joomi Lee wrote:

How do I subscribe to the suggestion box email list? I think the next
version of OpenOffice should allow the user to print a highlighted
selection.


It does this already.

--Jean


I agree with Jean it does, in fact that is the default when you have 
text highlighted and select File-> Print.  See [1].  Of course this is 
in the plain OOo verison 3.3.0 on Ubuntu.


[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5215855/print-selection.png

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[marketing] Someone needs to look into this

2011-02-20 Thread Andy Brown


From the users list archive: 
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=210035


Seems that a company is selling a version of OOo and sending users to 
the OOo users mailing list for problems.




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Re: [marketing] Another fraud misuse of OpenOffice.org brand and logo

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Brown

leif wrote:

Hi,
I have noticed the following website:
http://openoffice.2011dk.net/

I haven't tried, but I guess it requires a pin number to activate the
application.

Anyway I believe it's violating Oracle trademarks and the licenses.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl
Denmark



It appears to be a blog connected to  http://openoffice.2011uk.net/ , 
judging by the looks.  I do not read German so I can not tell for sure 
and Google translate can not find the page.



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Re: [marketing] Someone is selling Open Office for money!

2010-11-11 Thread Andy Brown

On Thu Nov 11 2010 06:30:31 GMT-0800 (PST)  Louis Sua'rez-Potts wrote:

Hi,

On 2010-11-05, at 24:55 , Andy Brown wrote:


On Thu Nov 04 2010 17:15:50 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Judy Nelson wrote:

I wasn't sure if you are aware but I found this site on the net:
http://www.crabbydigital.com/products/openoffice/
They are selling your product for $27.
Thanks,
Judith A. Nelson
judy.nelson.mo...@gmail.com

Judith,

Thanks for you interest but there is nothing illegal about selling 
OpenOffice.org.  There are a couple of things that you should be doing but that 
is for a legal team to look at, so will forward to let someone handle.

Thanks
Andy


Andy and the others are correct. However, sometimes, there are illegal things that companies do, whether knowingly or not. These include using (abusing) our trademark to sell their wares. Then there are the unscrupulous. These include, to my mind, those who offer "free" downloads of OOo (yep) and then [!!] charge a subscription fee. 


In general, when there are bad actors afoot, I write a polite letter asking 
them to mend their ways and join us in promoting not destroying the community. 
If they balk, refuse to change, I ask for legal help. By this point, they 
usually change or disappear.



I had a look at the site in question and sent an email suggesting a 
couple of things.  I received a "Thank you" reply but they have not made 
any changes yet.


Maybe a look be someone in legal would help.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] Someone is selling Open Office for money!

2010-11-04 Thread Andy Brown

On Thu Nov 04 2010 17:15:50 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Judy Nelson wrote:

I wasn't sure if you are aware but I found this site on the net:
http://www.crabbydigital.com/products/openoffice/

They are selling your product for $27.

Thanks,

Judith A. Nelson
judy.nelson.mo...@gmail.com



Judith,

Thanks for you interest but there is nothing illegal about selling 
OpenOffice.org.  There are a couple of things that you should be doing 
but that is for a legal team to look at, so will forward to let someone 
handle.


Thanks
Andy

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Re: [marketing] Copyright from Open Office

2010-10-25 Thread Andy Brown

* Please reply to the proper mailing list only *

On Mon Oct 25 2010 11:09:53 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Carlos Mastrangelo wrote:

 Hello
I found on ebay some users selling the Open Office disk with a tag on the
botton mentioning they have the permition to reproduce and sell it.
I was wondering if anyone could do that since Open Office is available free
online. If not I would like to know what someone would have to do to get a
permit to reproduce it and sell a copy of the cd with the intention of
divulgation.
If this is not the right person to ask, could I be pointed out the right
e-mail I would have to send to ask this question
Sinserely,
Carlos Mastrangelo




No the right list but the information follows:


Distributors

Please go to the main OpenOffice.org website:

 www.openoffice.org

At the top right, create yourself a User Name & Password.
Please make sure that you quote your 'primary' e-mail address, or if you 
have created a special one for OO.org - eg.

anycompany.o...@email.net

Now proceed as follows:
On the home page:
Double click the Downloads button .
Scroll down till you see the sub section 'Other'
Double click CD-ROMs.
This will bring you to the BLUE BUTTON.


Under Mailing lists, make sure that you are subscribed to  :
 annou...@distrib .
 d...@distrib   ..
 cd...@distrib ..

Once you have received the automated confirmation of subscription, you 
know that you will receive all messages from these links.


Please note that Openoffice.org DO NOT send out CD's.
The act of producing the cd's and leaflets etc. for distribution is the 
Community Distributors contribution to ' Spreading the word'.
You may if you wish make a nominal charge for the cds, and this is 
explained within the mission statements etc.
If you wish to be listed as a Distributor on the OO.o site, you can 
apply, but please note that it may take a little while to activate.



e-bay
If you intend to 'market' the cd's on e-bay there are certain conditions 
that you must conform to, and you will find these at:

http://distribution.openoffice.org/ebay_page.html


 You can download the latest version for win32, or browse for linux and 
other alternatives if you need them, by going back a page and clicking 
on the Download button (GREEN).


There are options for a download with,or without Java, suggest you take
the one with.
This may save you, or your 'customers' a second download from Java link,if
they do not have it on their machine.

SAVE the download, and this will then write to disc.

Look out for the links to disc templates, flyers, specification sheets
etc.


All web link buttons etc are available, just read through the mission
statements etc. and you can then follow the links for more info.

If you are also building, you may also like to consider registering as
o.e.m. suppliers (?)

If so, in addition to the above, subscribe to:
o...@distribution.openoffice.org


Come back if you have any problems.

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Re: [marketing] Temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead

2010-10-12 Thread Andy Loughran
Florian,

I for one would like to thank you for all the work you've put in during your
tenure as Marketing Project Lead.

Best of luck in your new role, and thanks for your work in your old one.

Regards,

Andy Loughran

On 12 October 2010 12:57, Florian Effenberger  wrote:

> Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Members,
> Dear OpenOffice.org Marketing Contacts,
> Dear Community Members,
>
> all of you have heard the news about the announcement of The Document
> Foundation. You might have also seen the discussion about this announcement,
> and a few raised concerns on the public OpenOffice.org mailing lists
> especially about the role of the OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead.
>
> The feedback that we as group on the one side, and I as individual on the
> other side have received, has been extremely positive, encouraging this so
> very important step for our Community. Not only our users and lots of
> enterprises and public entities worldwide reacted enormously positive, but,
> most important to me, especially many Community Members show their strong
> support for the way to a Foundation -- and so I very much feel that with
> this I am speaking for the Community that voted me as OpenOffice.org
> Marketing Project Lead.
>
> In order to help things settle down, I hereby, effective immediately,
> announce that I will temporarily suspend my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing
> Project Lead until version 3.3 of OpenOffice.org has been released. I will
> hand over all daily tasks to Peter Junge. As Co-Lead, he is the one to step
> in during times when I'm not available, so he will be the main contact for
> marketing and press during this time.
>
> To avoid conflicts of interest, when I have to market LibreOffice and
> OpenOffice.org at the same time, I will focus my work on the marketing
> mailing list of The Document Foundation during this time.
>
> As I am sure that things will have been sorted out after that period. By
> temporarily suspending my role as OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead, I
> hope I can help in contributing to the success of what we as Community built
> up during the past decade, and will shape during the next.
>
> I very much look forward to our future collaboration and cooperation.
>
> Florian
>
> --
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> OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
> Tel: +49 8341 99660880
> Fax: +49 8341 99660889
> Mobile: +49 151 14424108
> Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff
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Re: [marketing] please advise how to donate money to non-Oracle OpenOffice.org

2010-09-29 Thread Andy Brown

On Tue Sep 28 2010 22:20:26 GMT-0700 (PDT)  eric b wrote:


Le 28 sept. 10 à 21:19, Tom Mason a écrit :

You folk provide a tremendous service.  In the past, I was hesitant to 
donate money to Oracle.  I should be very pleased to donate to 
non-Oracle OpenOffice.org.





So feel free to donate to EducOO  ?  Our goal is Education, and neutrality.

EducOOo is a non profit association, volunteers, not being paid ..



Regards,
Eric Bachard


Eric and All,

The original poster is not subscribed to the mailing list, there for 
will not see replies unless they go looking in the archives, or you send 
a cc/bcc.  Second they ask how to donate, a link to the web page would 
have helped.


Just my 2 cents.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] please advise how to donate money to non-Oracle OpenOffice.org

2010-09-28 Thread Andy Brown

** please reply to the mailing list only at dev@marketing.openoffice.org  **

On Tue Sep 28 2010 12:19:05 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Tom Mason wrote:

You folk provide a tremendous service.  In the past, I was hesitant to donate 
money to Oracle.  I should be very pleased to donate to non-Oracle 
OpenOffice.org.

Tom Mason



You can donate through http://www.documentfoundation.org/  click on the 
Contribute tab near the top of the page.




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Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org Community announces The Document Foundation

2010-09-28 Thread Andy Brown

Varun Mittal wrote:

. The Document Foundation is the result of a collective effort by leading
independent members of the OpenOffice.org community, including several
project leads and key members of the Community Council. It will be led
initially by a Steering Committee of developers and national language
projects managers. The Foundation aims to lower the barrier of adoption for
both users and developers, to make LibreOffice the most accessible office
suite ever.
*


This is all well and good, on the surface.  But users are wanting to know,

 a) If bugs/ known problems are going to be fixed before adding new 
"features" and bug.


 b) If they will be listened to on usability issues.


Andy

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[marketing] Kool-aid anyone?

2010-09-18 Thread Andy Brown

Since no one else has posted this I though I would.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-tea-party-against-open-source/7387?tag=nl.e539


Fairly interesting article.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Updates for support.openoffice.org page

2010-09-15 Thread Andy Loughran
Florian,

I'd like to help out if possible?  Let me know what I need to do to get
access to the page.  I notice in the ticket it's maintained using CVS?

Regards,

Andy

On 15 September 2010 12:34, Florian Effenberger wrote:

> Hello,
>
> at http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=114218 there is
> currently an open issue regarding the support page.
>
> As stated, I'm quite busy as usual, so... is there someone to volunteer in
> helping to maintain that page?
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
>
> --
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> OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead
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Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-10 Thread Andy Brown

luiz wrote:

Hi Charles,

Can you write some words about your lecture on "OOo 5.0 Ideas"?
Our objective is to publish them on special edition of BrOffice.org
Magazine. The deadline is 19/09.



Best Regards,


Luiz Oliveira

PS: We have the file (odp) and summary of your presentation at OOoCon



I have seen references to OOo 4.0 and now 5.0, what about fixing the 
problems and bugs in the current versions.  Looking ahead is great and 
gives something to shoot for but problems exist _now_ that need to be fixed.


Just my 2 cents.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Meet the Community

2010-08-30 Thread Andy Brown

Stephanie wrote:

My name is Stephanie Krishnan and I’m passionate about the way that open
source software and its community can help small businesses and individuals
with their productivity and lives. I support the implementation of
OpenOffice into Small & Medium Businesses. One of the biggest arguments I
get from business owners, however, is lack of support options. I decided to
put together my own support blog to help people be productive at various
levels with one of my favourite open source alternatives: OpenOffice! I do
this through tutorials, downloadable templates and answers to questions from
readers.

I started by Discovering OpenOffice website to assist those that are
starting to use office productivity suites, and those who are converting
from MS Office, in being able to quickly and easily ensure that they can
achieve good results in their word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation
applications, and to introduce them to other features of OpenOffice.

http://www.discoveringooo.com



Welcome Stephanie,

Nice web page.  One thing that you need to change, OpenOffice <> 
OpenOffice.org.  Other can tell you the details.


Please reply to the mailing list.

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La Mesa, CA  91942
www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html
OpenOffice.org Community Distributor
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Documentation Project member
Marketing Project member
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Re: [marketing] Question

2010-08-27 Thread Andy Brown

Carlee C.Morency wrote:

Hello,
Does the free open office is legal? Because I think that open office seems to a 
Microsoft work.
Thank you,
Carlee Morency


Hi Carlee,

First it is OpenOffice.org.  Yes it is free and legal.  The program has
nothing to do with Microsoft.  It can open and save to some Microsoft
formats but that is not illegal.

Open Office is a whole different system and not free.

Please reply to dev@marketing.openoffice.org not to me direct.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] Re: Ubuntu does not respect the trademark OpenOffice.org

2010-08-04 Thread Andy Loughran
I agree with Alan on this.

On 4 August 2010 13:23, Alan Lord (News)  wrote:

> On 04/08/10 13:18, Luiz Oliveira wrote:
>
>> *
>> http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/segments/gen/client/en/ubuntu_landing?c=uk&l=en
>> *
>>
>> *"3) Ubuntu with OpenOffice is compatible with Microsoft^®   Office and
>> Adobe^®   Acrobat^®  *
>>
>
> I would say that is DELL's rather Ubuntu's problem...
>
> Al
>
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Re: [marketing] You've been linked -- Open Office

2010-06-28 Thread Andy Brown

MT Scribbler wrote:


First, thank you for your generosity in providing OpenOffic. I've 
directed students from all over the world to visit.


I have included your URL link in my free writing course, Access The 
World And Write Your Way To $$$, 
http://writersresourcesonline.blogspot.com/, in appropriate chapters and 
in Advice From Professionals section here, 
http://writerinsidertips.blogspot.com/. A contents index is here, 
http://index-writeyourway.blogspot.com/. A link to  Access The World And 
Write Your Way To $$$ will also be embedded in Montana Scribbler, 
http://montanascribbler09.blogspot.com/, and its expected that an 
increasing number of writers will ask to link.


**  I do not include content from any web sites. The intent of the 
course is to help writers find what they need, and encourage them to 
study. 


My course is not designed to encourage students to PAY to learn. 
Because, when I began what eventually turned into a career in writing, I 
was too poor and couldn't afford classes. Thus, my primary goal is 
providing a FREE guide to excellent FREE online education resources; and 
to alert them to the opportunities and pitfalls in the business of writing.



You have been linked here, Writing Software: 
<http://tinyurl.com/28wlh6u>http://tinyurl.com/28wlh6u


~~~

OpenOffice <http://www.openoffice.org/>http://www.openoffice.org/

~

(*Note, I may not have published that part, yet.) Please let me know if 
you have any objection, or would like to add anything.


For ten years, the e-mailed based version of this course has been 
received by students world-wide.


Let me know why you object to being linked and  your wishes will be 
honored immediately.


Thank you for your time, and I'll appreciate your suggestions.

Mona Vanek, Freelance Writer\Author\Instructor
mtscribb...@air-pipe.com
Montana Scribbler, http://montanascribbler09.blogspot.com/
Access The World and Writer Your Way To $$$, 
http://writersresourcesonline.blogspot.com/

1910 Fire, http://www.1910firecentennial.blogspot.com/0



Hi Mona,

First I would suggest you change the "OpenOffice" to "OpenOffice.org" 
and use "OO.o" or "OOo" instead of the "OO".  OpenOffice is a 
copyrighted name belonging to a company in Europe, and the reason 
OpenOffice.org is used for the program, the community and the web site.


Others may have more suggestions but other than that the page looks good 
to me.


Andy

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Re: [marketing] Request for HELP

2010-05-21 Thread Andy Brown

Robert Dunham wrote:

I don't know how to access blogs, Help for Open Office.  Please forward or 
direct me to the means.

Problem:  A multi-year text document listing urls as I encounter them for 
future reference.  It was in Open Document text document format, but somehow 
has been converted to Notepad and is written only in machine language, not 
text.  I have tried to regain text by copying it (pasting) to text document, 
rich text documents and saving it as every listed alternative offered by the 
save as function, all without success.  I have gone back to all saved back-up 
that I have on my hard drive and on thumb drives, which all are displayed only 
in machine language.  I have tried commercial restoration programs, but can 
find nothing to restore.

Any direction would be greatly appresicated.


Robert,

If you can send me a copy I will see if I can find the problem for you. 
 This is not really proper for this list, please see: 
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html and join the 
us...@openoffice.org .  It best _not_ to attach file to email sent to 
the mailing list.


Andy
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Re: [marketing] Online Open Office

2010-05-20 Thread Andy Brown

Lars Nooden wrote:

On 05/19/2010 12:31 AM, Andy Brown wrote:

I think your missing a big security problem here.  Going C/S will open
up all kinds of security holes...


Andy, a browser is an HTTP / HTTPS client connecting to an HTTP server.
 Unlike many client-server architectures, HTTP is stateless, which adds
a lot of complexity and errors trying to hack a stateful interface on
top of it.

/Lars


Hi Lars,

And going C/S helps, how?  There is one company that I have tried that 
has OpenOffice.org running on a cloud.  You can access it with a browser 
or NoMachine.  According to their web site only Windows can use the NX 
version, but I know better as I had it running on my Ubuntu box as well. 
 To me HTTPS puts security on the server and not the end user.  If 
security is left to the user all it would take is one not doing what is 
required and the whole system becomes a security problem.


Andy

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Re: [marketing] Online Open Office

2010-05-18 Thread Andy Brown

Wunna Ko wrote:

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Miroslav Mazel  wrote:



Web applications have to run within the browser. That's what makes them web
applications, as opposed to desktop applications. But don't worry, an
online
OOo won't mean the death of the good old OOo desktop apps. They'll still be
there for those who want better OS integration or more complex features.



I think Online doesn't necessary mean Web application. What about doing like
client-server? The client side will do things like UI and the server side
other parts.

It will make the low client download and updating easier.



Hi,

I think your missing a big security problem here.  Going C/S will open 
up all kinds of security holes.  Using a browser helps make things more 
secure with out much work on the users part.


Andy

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Re: [marketing] Personalized stamps - a possible marketing idea for our 10th anniversary?

2010-04-25 Thread Andy Brown

Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Andy, Jean, all,


Much clipped...


If anyone in the USA is interested there is a service called stamps.com
that maybe of help.


I already included their prices in my spreadsheet :-)


I looked at the spreadsheet after I replied and saw that.  What was your 
idea of picture to use?
I may just spring for a sheet of $1.00 as that is what it cost to mail 
the CDs.  Might be interesting to try.  I already use the OpenOffice.org 
Community Distributor logo on the return address.


Andy


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Re: [marketing] Personalized stamps - a possible marketing idea for our 10th anniversary?

2010-04-25 Thread Andy Brown

Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

Bernhard Dippold wrote:


what do you think about creating a special kind of merchandising 
articles to be sold at fairs, on the OOoCon or even online (coming 
back to the idea of an OOo shop)?


My idea derives from the possibility to design personalized stamps in 
several countries serving as official postage for letters.



I like the general idea of merchandise, but I'm not sure that 
personalised stamps are a good item to have. My reason is: I almost 
never snail-mail anything any more; if I don't do something in person, I 
do it online using various services (email, banking, purchasing items, 
etc). I send very few parcels or letters by mail. I know that a lot of 
other people do use the mail, but I wonder how many of them would also 
be interested in OOo merchandise. Ten years ago, or possibly even five 
years ago, I would have thought this was a good idea, but I'm not so 
sure now.


--Jean


I have to agree with Jean.  I do a bit of mailing providing CDs but not 
enough to justify that added expense.


If anyone in the USA is interested there is a service called stamps.com 
that maybe of help.


Andy

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Re: [marketing] Request for attending GULEV in Veracruz Mexico

2010-04-12 Thread Andy Brown

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Hello community through this email I am asking the marketing budget
for $200 dls sponsorship to attend to GULEV in Veracruz Mexico.  The
event is one of the largest and with most history in Mexico, for about
9 years the event has been taking place in different parts of the
country and had brought FLOSS representatives like RMS, Rasmus, Guido
van Rossum and others.

For this edition I will be given 3 talks:
- mini talk: ODF around the world
- workshop: Develop extensions for OOo
- talk: OpenOffice.org is open for business

The event organizer will cover my accomodation costs during the 3 days
of the event (200 dls).
http://gulev.org.mx/eventos/gulev2010/



+1

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www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html
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Marketing Project member
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Re: [marketing] DFD this March 30th - What we going to do about it?

2010-03-08 Thread Andy Brown
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On March 30th the Document Freedom day is happening and I think we are
> in good time to start to work on a campaign to show our support on the
> website.
> 
> I think this event is pretty important, and we could be working with
> the communities and spread the word about this relevant event. I think
> also marketing should put some  money to fund the development.
> 
> Some ideas are:
> - Showcase the benefits of OpenDocuments
> - Show the tools that use ODF
> - Push documentation to the forefront about ODF such as adoption, 
> implementation
> - Push technical documentation
> - Projects like www-at-odf and ODFDOM, XSLT-Tools
> 
> I think this is a relevant event to put our support behind and also
> OOo does need a more responsive website.

+1

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats

2010-03-02 Thread Andy Brown
Lars Nooden wrote:
> On 2010-3-2 9:36 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>> I'd like to nominate John McCreesh, Co-Lead of the Marketing Project and
>> its former Lead, for a second term. John has ever since been working in
>> the spirit of the community, and I respect his wisdom and his way of
>> collaborating, as well as his enthusiasm. I'm sure that having him on
>> the Council for a second term would greatly contribute to the efforts of
>> our community.
> 
> +1
> 
> I second the nomination of John.  The number of positions and method of
> nomination is not clear from the wikis
> 
> http://council.openoffice.org/councilcharter12.html
> 
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/Election_Process_Proposal
> 
> 
> Regards,
> /Lars


Also where to do the voting.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] Document Freedom Day

2010-03-02 Thread Andy Brown
Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> the Free Software Foundation invited us to join the Document Freedom Day
> on March 31st.
> 
> I recall that we joined one of the last years. Do we want to join this
> year as well? I think it's a good idea, and any thoughts, support and
> ideas are welcome. :-)
> 
> florian

+1 very good idea.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org swag on the net

2010-03-01 Thread Andy Brown
Per Eriksson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just wanted to know what websites that we are aware of that provide swag
> with the OpenOffice.org brand? Mugs, towels, keyrings, etc.
> 
> Maybe we could improve the contribution site showing things to buy to
> support OpenOffice.org? I could do something as a proposal for that.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Per Eriksson

Per,

Here are a couple from OOoAuthors.  I will keep looking for more.

http://oooauthors.spreadshirt.de/

http://www.cafepress.com/oooauthors

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-27 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:

> Hi Andy
> 
> 
> I agree - it's best if we just go with two CDs. It makes more sense
> on multiple levels actually.

Agreed.

> so - just focusing on OO.o for the moment -
> 
> Looking at the art work on the wiki, there appears to be a couple
> of better candidates for the baseline art, IMO.
> 
> Looks like the first step would be to translate the
> Deutsch to English for the supplemental text on one or two.
> 
> I can handle that and then post the results back up the wiki.
> 
> A plan?

Be my guest.  I do not read Deutsch so that is out of my league.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-27 Thread Andy Brown
Juergen Schmidt wrote:

> the official trademarked logo is important. I think everything else is
> more flexible but it is important that we use always more or less the
> same. And that is when i got i correct the idea of the art and branding
> project. Fos FOSDEM we choose an additional image to transport a
> specific message. I think we will always need such things and ideally we
> have some of them in place for different events and use cases that can
> be easy reused world wide.
> 
> I would go with one clear visual concepts for ALA and wouldn't mix
> different things. OOo4Kids addressed a completely different user group
> and librarians are probably more interested in OOo.
> 
> Juergen

So our best bet is to make two different disk, one with OO.o and one
with OOo4Kids?

That can be done just as well.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> OK - quick additional to that, quick thought there.
> 
> If someone downloads the art work, doesn't say a thing, never comes back
> here to the MLs - alters it and uses it - then yeah I can see where you
> would
> want to discourage, if not downright prohibit, that.
> 
> But that isn't what we would be doing - I doubt that if we altered
> something,
> brought it back here for a review and comment, revision if necessary,
> prior to use. that there would be anything but support.
> 

Then someone with more talent than I have will have to do it.  With the
label I can overlay the OOo4Kids logo on to the template that I use for
the disk labels.  But I have no idea how to use a graphics program to do
the work.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> Well - I know it feels like a corporation around here most of the time,
> but that is the Art Project, not Department, and Bernhard and folks are
> volunteering their time, talents and efforts.

A mistake on my part.  But as I have told Bernhard, I understand that we
are all volunteers and time is a premium for us all.

>>> If we add these other items does that change what we should to with
>>> label art?
>>
>> It might be nice to add the OOo4Kids logo but then I think we would run
>> into a problem as that could be considered "modifying" the OO,o art
>> which is not allowed.
>>
> 
> Really!
> 
> So how do they come up with special event logos for things like FOSDEM,
> or the different OOoCon logos - it has to be 100% from scratch each
> and every time? No way that's what they do.
> 

Only going by the art projects web site
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Logo/License .  They are
free to use but not to modified.  That is all I have to go by.

I can overlay the OOo4Kids logo but is that considered modifying the CD
label?


Andy

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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Brown
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On 2/26/10, Andy Brown  wrote:
>>
>> It might be nice to add the OOo4Kids logo but then I think we would run
>>  into a problem as that could be considered "modifying" the OO,o art
>>  which is not allowed.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Andy
> 
> Let me know if you need the source files for the OOo4Kids artwork. I
> can get them for you.
> 


A link to a SVG/PNG file would be nice to have.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> Overall so do I - but reading over that email I'd say don't run off and
> start burning things just yet.

Not going to start for sometime.  I have other things I am working on to
hopefully make the job easier.

> 1) - I forgot about the manuals that Jean was going to get to you.
> 
> Do you have all those in place already?
> How much space does that take up?

I have all available documents.  Without OOo4Kids there is 150 megs left
on the disk.  With OOo4Kids there is about 64 megs left open on the disk.

> 2) CD label art
> I know you asked about that - did you find what you needed on that?

There has been no word from the art department other than they are
working on the branding and that will take time.  If they do not come up
with something soon we will have to go with what we have.

> If we add these other items does that change what we should to with
> label art?

It might be nice to add the OOo4Kids logo but then I think we would run
into a problem as that could be considered "modifying" the OO,o art
which is not allowed.


Andy

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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 

{much clipped}
> Hello Andy, Alexandro, et al
> 
> Actually when I was speaking with Alexandro I had Andy in mind,
> at least partially.
> 
> Andy is putting a CD together for distribution at the show.
> @Andy, I've been meaning to get back to you on that,
> sorry for the delay, guess now is a good time.
> 
> I had asked Andy if he planned to include any extensions and/or
> templates on the CD - I saw in the MLs that he asked for feed back
> on what that might include.
> 
> @Andy - have you gotten any suggestions back on that?

One reply that was a suggestion.  Though not in the area we are looking
for.  The other reply was concerning using the "ratings" from the
repository as a guide.

> 
> When Alexandro was talking to me last night it a couple of ideas came
> to mind.
> 
> @Andy - would you consider including OOo4Kids on the CD along with
> OpenOffice.org?

I have no problem adding it or making a separate disk.

> @Alexandro - I know I didn't mention that last night.
> 
> Actually this all got going in my head from an email on the users ML
> last week I suppose - from an elementary school teacher looking for
> some help with templates / clip art, appropriate for kids.
> 
> One thing I did at that time was go the template site and see what
> we might have there - rather dismal pickings for kid stuff it appears.

I did the same and found some that my be of interest but I want to check
with a friend that is a retired librarian and het their input as well.

> Clip art wise - well that is OT for this email
> ...but thankfully there is Kami.
> 
> so @Andy - here is my suggestion for one inclusion for the CD:
> The OOOP-Gallery pack found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop/files/

Will get it and add it to the disk.

> Alright - assuming OOo4Kids is ok with you and the gallery pack then that
> is ~1/2 of the CD space.
> 
> There is also a Template pack from the same source as the gallery pack,
> but I don't think you could get on the CD given the other three...maybe
> I'm wrong on that.

I will get it and see how it stacks up.  As I said I can make an OOoKids
disk if need be.

> --so first @Andy, or anyone else, what do you think about that?

I think it is a good idea.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Brown
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Hi, OOo will be participating in ALA conference later this year and we
> are asking for your help on designing and creating templates for the
> Librarian community in the US. We would like to have a collection of
> some of the templates including:
> - Kid-like templates
> - Patron template for library staff
> - templates for book sign up
> - ideas welcomed
> 

Alexandro,

What type of templates are you talking about?  For documents to be
created?  Design templates for marketing materials?

Andy


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Re: [marketing] Video and presentation of OOo4Kids

2010-02-24 Thread Andy Brown
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Just to let you know about my presentation at SCALE was recorded and is
> uploaded to my blip.tv site:
> OOo4Kids @ SCALE http://blip.tv/file/3261755
> The Presentation used for the talk is located at
> http://www.slideshare.net/jza/scale-o-oo4-kids
> 
> hope this works for new presention
> 

Hi Alexandro,

Great work.

Andy

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[marketing] Show Card

2010-02-22 Thread Andy Brown
Drew,

Have you given any though to the back of the "show card"?  Any rough
outlines yet?


Thanks,
Andy

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Re: [marketing] Anyone going to Gov 2.0 Expo (The correct mailing list?)

2010-02-19 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Hmm - only going to be attending the expo section.
> I hadn't thought about bring along material to pass out,
> but if you have some then yes I could take some.
> 
> I wouldn't really need many if I did, sure if you have some.
> 

Hi Drew,

If the art work gets done on time I will get you some with the new art,
if not I will get you some of the ones I have on order.

Send me your mailing address off list.

Andy

ps.  When you going to be back in irc?


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Re: [marketing] Anyone going to Gov 2.0 Expo (The correct mailing list?)

2010-02-19 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to ask if there are any other
> OpenOffice.org Community Members
> planning on attending the Gov 2.0
> expo in Washington DC this May.

I would like to attend, but as I have explained before, not possible.
Would you want some pamphlets to pass out??

> Thanks.
> 
> (Second part of this email)
> 
> Is this really the mailing list where I should
> be posting this type of stuff?

It would seem to be the place, to me at least.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Query

2010-02-19 Thread Andy Brown
Stefan Weigel wrote:
> Hi Andi,
> 
> Am 18.02.2010 22:11, schrieb Andy Brown:
> 
>> OpenOffice.org itself can not be ran from a CD.  There is a fork that
>> can be ran from a flash drive, check http://portableapps.com/
> 
> http://portableapps.com/support/openoffice_portable#cd
> 
> Running from CD (OpenOffice.org Portable Live)
> 
> OpenOffice.org Portable supports running from a CD. Start off by
> downloading and installing OpenOffice.org Portable to your hard drive...
> it doesn't matter where. Run it at least once to generate the default
> settings. Then, customize it as needed, being sure not to move
> OpenOfficePortable.exe or any of the other critical files. Next,
> download OpenOfficePortable.ini and save it to the same directory as
> OpenOfficePortable.exe. Run OpenOfficePortable.exe again to allow it to
> configure OpenOffice.org to run from a CD. Then, burn the whole
> OpenOfficePortable directory to a CD and you're ready to go.
> 
> :-D
> 
> Stefan

Stefan,

Thanks for the information but that was not what they wanted.  I got
them a copy on flash drive.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org at BASIS SoftExpo 2010

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Brown
mak wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> We had a great event, we enjoyed the BASIS SoftExpo 2010 a lot. It was a 5
> day exposition within a huge arena thousands of visitors stopped by our
> booth. They listened to us and almost everyone got excited to see OO.o in
> mother language. Most of them collected Bangla OpenOffice.org (in CD)
> promptly. Few of them collected Manual in Bangla. Our bn_BD l10n
> contributors got OO.o T-Shirt, also distributed huge amount of hadbills to
> visitors. My organization <http://ankur.org.bd/wiki/Home> developed the OO.o
> spell checker extension consist of 300,000 Bangla words, it was a hotcake;
> we had bundled it with OpenOffice.org CD.
> 
> Take a look in the photo stream:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ankur_bangladesh/sets/72157623334563751/
> 
> Regards from Bangladesh.
> mak_
> 

Great job.

Andy



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[marketing] Query

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Brown
As a distributer for OpenOffice.org I received the following from a
potential new OO.o user:

{Quote}

Your name came up as a CD distributor for the Open Office program.  Can
this program be operated completely from a CD?  Does it have any hidden
code that will look at all the files on my computer and send information
from those files to an unauthorized person/entity?  Do you have anyone
that used your program and did not find it useful that I may contact for
an opposing opinion of the program?

{End quote}

I wanted to tell them that "If your using any Microsoft products you
should be more worried" but I did not.

My reply:

{Quote}

OpenOffice.org itself can not be ran from a CD.  There is a fork that
can be ran from a flash drive, check http://portableapps.com/ for more
details on all their products.  All are open source and free to download
and use.

As for sending information about you to "someone" it does not.  There is
an option to allow OpenOffice.org to send information about how you use
it, which features and functions you use but it does not collect any
other information about you or your system.  Since there are no "sales"
numbers to track the developers like for users to register so that total
numbers of users can be estimated but that is not required.

I am not aware of anyone one that has not found OpenOffice.org useful.
That being said that does not mean that such people do not exist.  I
would suggest doing a google search for openoffice.org and see what is
out there.  You can also search the archives from the discuss and users
mailing list at  http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html to see what
real users are saying and asking questions about.

If you have more questions join us in the users mailing list as there
are people there from all over the world that have more experience with
OpenOffice.org than I do that will gladly answer your questions.  If you
want a copy of OpenOffice.org on CD, which you can install on as many
computers as you want with no licensing fees or if you want a copy on a
flash drive let me know I and I will get you a copy, at no charge.

{End Quote}

Is there any information here that we can use to "enlighten" potential
new users with?  Is there any web sites that would give the impression
that OO.o has "back doors" or collects user information?  Is there a
non-OO.o site that says "No security holes have been found"?

My reply to the user was based on personal belief and my understanding
so I may have mis-spoke.

Any suggestions for future questions such as this?

Thanks in advance,

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Need Help Getting Started

2010-02-16 Thread Andy Brown
Andy Brown wrote:
> Paula Carmichael wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I am new to this group and as of yet I do not have a handle on the 
>> conversation.  I thought there was a meeting yesterday at 9 but obviously I 
>> could not locate the destination.  Tomorrow there is a meeting at 11 am and 
>> I would like to attend in order to get a better picture of how I can 
>> contribute, however, as of now I do not have the location.   HELP.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Paula Carmichael
> 
> Hi Paula, and welcome to the marketing project.
> 
> The message you replied to has no direct connection to the thread your
> looking for.
> 
> The discussion for the ALA conference, besides this mailing list, is at
> irc://freenode/ooousa next meeting is night at 9 pm (EST), or there
> about, and on the wiki at
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010/kickoff_agenda
> and http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 .  We had
> three people in IRC last night and had some good discussions and would
> like to see your input.
> 
> Andy

Sorry I hit send to fast.  If you want to catch up on the ALA thread
check out
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=dev&by=thread&from=2326638&to=2326638&first=1&count=113
that is the starting message.

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Re: [marketing] Need Help Getting Started

2010-02-16 Thread Andy Brown
Paula Carmichael wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> I am new to this group and as of yet I do not have a handle on the 
> conversation.  I thought there was a meeting yesterday at 9 but obviously I 
> could not locate the destination.  Tomorrow there is a meeting at 11 am and I 
> would like to attend in order to get a better picture of how I can 
> contribute, however, as of now I do not have the location.   HELP.
> 
>  
> 
> Paula Carmichael

Hi Paula, and welcome to the marketing project.

The message you replied to has no direct connection to the thread your
looking for.

The discussion for the ALA conference, besides this mailing list, is at
irc://freenode/ooousa next meeting is night at 9 pm (EST), or there
about, and on the wiki at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010/kickoff_agenda
and http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 .  We had
three people in IRC last night and had some good discussions and would
like to see your input.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] New sample show card

2010-02-14 Thread Andy Brown
Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Andy, Hamish, all,
> 
> 
> At first I didn't know what does the expression "show card" means, but
> you can search Internet for nearly everything, so now I understand it as
> vertical poster to be positioned at a booth or other presentation of OOo
> to show the audience where to find us. Is this right?

I picked the name up from Christine in this list.  The printing company
that I am working through calls it a rack card.  It is approximately 8
1/2 ins by 3 ins.  I got the idea from Drew when he wanted a "cheat
sheet".  The front would be an "eye catcher" with relevant wording on
the back.  Maybe a list of usual by useful keyboard short cuts or items
used in Word and their OO.o equivalents.  Or it could be used as a bookmark.


> For design discussions I prefer the Art project mailing list
> (a...@marketing.openoffice.org), but I add a few remarks here ;-)

Ok.

> I found the previous version too blurry too, but it's advantage was that
> it re-used the graphical basis of the installation window [1],[2].
> 
> If you use the SVG source to create your show card, you can export any
> resolution to PNG without getting these problems with scaling...

I will give it another go.

> We don't provide vector graphics for the mime-type icons, so we're stuck
> with the pixel based present images.
> 
> Perhaps any addition of a transparent background would reduce the white
> looking area around the icons...

Someone else will have to figure that out, as I am no artist.  I can cut
and paste but drawing is out of my reach.

>> Updated file at
>>
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:ShowCard_1n.odt#filelinks
> 
> You know that you just can add a new version of your image by uploading
> it with the same name as previously?

There are a lot of things, like 'wikis' that I am still learning. :(

> Best regards
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> 
> [1]:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooo3_installer_version_colorscheme.png
> (modified DOT colors to be more consistent with the OOo3 color language).
> [2]:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/f/fd/Ooo3_splashscreen_final_with_version_and_colorscheme.svg
> 

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Re: [marketing] New sample show card

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Hi Hamish,

I feel the same.

Thanks.

Andy

Hamish Bell wrote:
> Hi Andy
> 
> To me, looks far better so well done!
> 
> Hamish


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Re: [marketing] New sample show card

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Follow-up.

Andy Brown wrote:
> Hamish Bell wrote:
>> But also remember, when the new branding art comes out, it may look a lot
>> clearer, which would be good.
>>
>> Good luck, Hamish 
> 
> I printed it out from both PFD and ODT and both show pixalated.  It is
> the background so I will see what I can do an upload the correction.
> 

Updated file at

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:ShowCard_1n.odt#filelinks

Thanks
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Re: [marketing] New sample show card

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Hamish Bell wrote:
> But also remember, when the new branding art comes out, it may look a lot
> clearer, which would be good.
> 
> Good luck, Hamish 

I printed it out from both PFD and ODT and both show pixalated.  It is
the background so I will see what I can do an upload the correction.

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Re: [marketing] New sample show card

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Hi Hamish,

I will have a look at it.

Andy

Hamish Bell wrote:
> Hi Andy, I think your sample show card looks fine; however the background
> image is slightly pixalated when I saved it to PDF.  I'm not sure if that's
> how it would print but you want to be careful when it appears like that!
> 
> Hamish
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Brown  
> Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2010 15:10
> To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
> Subject: [marketing] New sample show card
> 
> I have uploaded a sample show card, front.  This is using the current
> "splash screen".  To be modified when the new branding art is available.
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[marketing] New sample show card

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
I have uploaded a sample show card, front.  This is using the current
"splash screen".  To be modified when the new branding art is available.


http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:ShowCard_1.odt



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Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Andy Brown wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.  Making a change seem easy enough.  I am in for Monday and
>> Tuesday @6pm.  I think I figured out the irc stuff, at least how to
>> connect
> 
> great.
> 
> I know that times don't work for every person that might be interested
> in this.
> 
> In all honesty there is a group of individuals having already shown some
> interest (not all of whom are active on this list) that I hope will
> actually get involved, for which these times seemed most appropriate.
> It's a big continent and even bigger rock in the sky..it .just is - What
> it is.
> 
> For some, such as Florian I know it's a 'kick in the head'  time
> wise..sorry.
> 
> As mitigation two things:
> 
> I can certainly be on-line at a better time for folks on the other side
> of the pond - getting up at 3AM on Monday mornings is something I do on
> a very regular basis: when I particularly want to get some 'face time'
> with the Base team in Hamburg...nothing beats getting your email in
> front of them over Monday morning coffee.
> 
> Secondly : The irc channel irc://freenode/ooousa if you notice has a
> guest(owner) sybil- just a server keeping a log. The log will go to the
> wiki - as I see stuff that should go to the wiki, I'll move it..other
> wise I plan on having the channel open 24/7 for the next few days at least.
> 
> Otherwise every other way we converse is still here.


If there are enough people to have it earlier then I will try to be in
as well, the time I chose is better for me, but I understand it others
have better times for them as well.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
>> I marked 5pm(PST) but 6pm(PST) would be better for me though I realize
>> it is kind of late for you.
>>   
> 
> OK  - Added the 2 later time slots
> 
> Never used doodle, so not sure how you change your choice..
> 

Thanks.  Making a change seem easy enough.  I am in for Monday and
Tuesday @6pm.  I think I figured out the irc stuff, at least how to connect.

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Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Application distribution (was :American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Bernhard Dippold wrote:
>> Hi Andy, Drew, *
>>
>> Andy Brown schrieb:
>>> Drew Jensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>> Before we get to deep into this it may be better to move to a show
>>>> specific channel for discussion - an email list of forum/wiki.
>>
>> If you had moved, I couldn't take part in this discussion. So from my
>> side staying here on the main marketing list has it's advantages.
>>
>> I'd just propose to start a new thread for every new topic (so
>> threading is easier), but add [ALA 2010:] to the subject, so everybody
>> not interested in this topic can just drop it...
> 
> Hi Bernhard,
> 
> Well, it appears to me that using specialty channels ( separate email
> lists for instance ) for specific activities is the norm here. Surely
> you realize it would be open, as all others are.
> 
> I would be remiss if I didn't send a notice to all projects that should
> know where ii is..marketing, art, branding list, etc.
> 
> For myself there a number of irons in the fire - with plenty of emails
> and sure I can keep updating a filter for new subject lines but it is a
> lot easier for me to have a better bucket to put things in, like a mail
> list or a forum/wiki.

Personally I fell a mailing list would be best with a wiki being ok, as
they allow anyone to be in the discussion when they have time and not
have to "take time out" when it is not convenient for them.  Just my 2
cents.

>>
>>> [...] I can probably wait till the first of
>>> May and still get out 1,000 disk but I would like to get started as soon
>>> as possible to make sure.  I want to be able to place the orders for the
>>> banner and pamphlets on the first of May as well to insure we have them
>>> in time.
>>
>> In this case I'd propose to wait until the first of April before you
>> decide about the old or the new design.
>>
>> If the Branding Initiative is able to provide you with the new design
>> in time, you could go for the new one with pamphlet, banner and CD
>> labels (you'll probably be the first adopting this design in this case).
>>
>> If there is no design ready to be used, you could take the present
>> OOo3 design.
>>
>> Just a proposal...
>>
> @Andy - just my perspective. It is very important that we mesh with the
> branding and art groups on this.
> 

As you wish.


Andy

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Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Application distribution (was :American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Andy, Drew, *
> 
> Andy Brown schrieb:
>> Drew Jensen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> But for the moment. Can you say how long a lead time you need to produce
>>> x number of discs?
>>> [...]
>> [...] I can probably wait till the first of
>> May and still get out 1,000 disk but I would like to get started as soon
>> as possible to make sure.  I want to be able to place the orders for the
>> banner and pamphlets on the first of May as well to insure we have them
>> in time.
> 
> In this case I'd propose to wait until the first of April before you
> decide about the old or the new design.
> 
> If the Branding Initiative is able to provide you with the new design in
> time, you could go for the new one with pamphlet, banner and CD labels
> (you'll probably be the first adopting this design in this case).
> 
> If there is no design ready to be used, you could take the present OOo3
> design.
> 
> Just a proposal...
> 

I see no reason that will not work.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Drew, off list reply.

Drew Jensen wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> The contract for this event was signed this week - so the clock is running.
> 
> I would like to get those interested in participating in one place for
> an hour if possible.
> 
> For that I set up
> - an IRC channel:
> irc://freenode/ooousa

I do not normally use irc, so I need to know what I need to connect.

> - and a meeting scheduler at Doodle:
> http://doodle.com/8axp46z5svkc6m32
> I've set up 4, evening hour, slots for Tuesday / Wednesday.
> 
> If folks could mark this for a time they would be available - much
> appreciated.

I marked 5pm(PST) but 6pm(PST) would be better for me though I realize
it is kind of late for you.

Andy.

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Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Application distribution (was :American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Before we get to deep into this it may be better to move to a show
> specific channel for discussion - an email list of forum/wiki.
> 
> But for the moment. Can you say how long a lead time you need to produce
> x number of discs?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Drew
> 

Drew,

I can move to the wiki if that is better, makes no difference to me.
Direct email is also an option as most of this is between you and me.

How fast I can produce the disk will be based on how things are going
here.  I work in a retirement home and my day varies on how much time I
have to work on other projects.  I can probably wait till the first of
May and still get out 1,000 disk but I would like to get started as soon
as possible to make sure.  I want to be able to place the orders for the
banner and pamphlets on the first of May as well to insure we have them
in time.  I plan on mailing everything to you on or about the first of
June to make sure you have them in time.  I am going to order a small
batch of the pamphlets this week so that I can see exactly how they will
look and make any changes needed.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Andy Brown schrieb:
>> Still waiting on the Art project for the banner art, trying to tie in
>> with the 10 anniversary.
> 
> If you want to be consistent with the new branding, this would not only
> apply to banners, but to poster and CD labels as well.
> 
> We're just starting our work at the Branding Initiative
> (http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand/), but defining a consistent
> style for OOo will take a few more weeks.
> 
> So I can't tell you about the future design at the moment.
> 
> If you want to stay with the present design instead, CD labels are part
> of this gallery:
> http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/cdart/
> 
> This would have the advantage of being consistent with your pamphlet.
>>
>> I finally have a good pamphlet, how may do we need?
> 
> If you wait for the future design, the pamphlet graphics will have to
> updated too.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Bernhard
> 

Morning Bernhard,

My first thought was to wait for the new stuff.  Then realized that the
current art is consistent with version 3.2 which is what the disks will
have on them.  As such it would be best to stick with what we have and
wait to make changes when the branding is complete and added to the
program, ie splash screen.

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: [marketing] Fwd: Linux Today - It's Not The Hokey Cokey; OpenOffice BACK In Ubuntu Netbook Edition After User Outcry

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Brown
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
> A nice story. Pity that most of our (>90?) downloads from the website are 
> Windows. 
> 
> -louis
> 
> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-02-12-017-35-NW-UB

Louis,

The way I see it is that Microsoft, trying to control the end user, does
not make it east to add non-MS programs.  Linux on the other hand makes
it very easy to add programs.  Linux basically ships with OO.o.

Just my 2cents.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-02-12 Thread Andy Brown

Drew, all,

I have the files needed to get started on the CDs for the conference.
I just need an idea of how many I need to burn.

How do I go about getting the labels?

Still waiting on the Art project for the banner art, trying to tie in
with the 10 anniversary.

I finally have a good pamphlet, how may do we need?

Any idea how many of the Library flyers we will need?


Andy

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Re: [marketing] OpenOffice as best open source of 2009

2010-02-10 Thread Andy Brown
Benjamin Segura wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am Ben, from Redaccenir, an spanish company. We have held a contest to
> find the best open source software of 2009 in our software site
> PortalProgramas and OpenOffice.org has been one of the most voted:
> http://www.portalprogramas.com/premios-mejor-software-libre/
> 
> Thanks to the impact in media, more than 12.000 people has taken part on
> it. As our users have chosen you as one of the best open source apps we
> have donated 500 euros to support your development (donation managed by
> your partner Alexandro Colorado).
> 
> The full PR we have published is (in spanish):
> http://www.portalprogramas.com/sala-prensa/donacion-500-euros-openoffice.html
> 
> we explain there why OpenOffice received so many votes.
> 
> Part of the text (final paragraph) translated into english:
> "Our users know OpenOffice.org worth and has stood it out from other
> notable open source software in the contest."
> 
> I attach you an award which in fact is a proof of OpenOffice worth for
> Spanish and Latin America people. You could publish it on your awards page.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ben

Hi Ben,

I can only speak for myself, but this is great news.  No only for
OpenOffice.org but for Open Source as a whole.

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[marketing] Some very interesting stats

2010-02-09 Thread Andy Brown
Found this site with some very interesting stats for OpenOffice.org
world wide.

http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-25 Thread Andy Brown
Hi Christine,

Christine Louise Beems wrote:
> About flyers, printing and promotional/show materials in general...
> 
> I strongly recommend (to my paying clients ) that hard-copy
> publication of documents for promotional distribution be kept to a
> critical minimum for reasons of marketing effectiveness and responsible
> stewardship of resources.
> 
> In this interest, there is only 1 printed document is produced in mass
> quantity to hand out at a show. This can be either a flyer or a showcard
> with outstanding graphic design (ie: curb appeal) that succinctly
> communicates the features, advantages and benefits of the
> service/product being promoted and clearly points the way to a website
> where comprehensive information is easily found.

I would like to see what you would do with
http://opendocumentfellowship.com/libraries to get it on a "show card".
 The site has a ODT and PDF version of the flyer that we are talking about.

> In addition, one of the things we *should* be thinking about and
> developing (as immediately as possible) is a 'promotional calendar'.
> This is accomplished by starting with the date of the event (in this
> case June 24-30, 2010 -- yes?) and backtracking to line-item what must
> be done by when.
> 
> For example, we would want to aim for a 'media saturation campaign'
> during the entire month of June. This means that we would have to get
> 'news release' event announcements and promotional blurbs distributed to
> 'trade publications' (and various others) by no later than April 15 as
> it takes a minimum of 6 weeks lead time for such announcement to have
> the realistic possiblity of making print.

Do we have someone that will take this on?  Russell has already posted a
group of links that would be a good starting point for this.

> Which brings up another point I've been meaning to raise for a while...
> in that it takes me something like a dozen clicks (and I have to
> somewhat know where I am going) to get from the OOo homepage to the
> archive of our news releases... and in terms of making things easy for
> reporters to access the kind of infomation they need in order to convey
> accurate information about us to their readers, our news release archive
> section should easily accessible from just about every page of the whole
> OOo site .

The link to the wiki has been posted here several time,
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 .

> And about banners... think how kewl it would be to 'print our own'
> (totally awesome) banner(s) using OOo to do the design and then be able
> to say to show attendees... 'see, look what can be easily done with
> OOo... and you can do it too!!!'

Where can I find information on printing banners in OpenOffice.org?
This would be very useful in my current job.  But I am worried that such
a banner would not be professional looking.

Thanks for your time.

Andy



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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-23 Thread Andy Brown
Hi Russell,

WorldLabel.com wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Some ideas and thoughts. Pls excuse my writing as I am dyslexic

I know how that goes as I have the same problem.

>> reusable, sign for around $51.00.  I say reusable so that it can be used
> for, >hopefully, other events during the year.
> 
> Yes, we should try for the ALA conference every year or alternate year. We
> can also exhibit at a ALA regional event in between the national ALA
> conference. It would be a good idea to try and get other "larger sponsors"
> to help with this effort. Showing face consistently at these exhibits can
> only help show that we are really around and serious. One hit might not have
> much impact.

I agree that we need to start having a presents at these and other like
events.

> Some signage for ODF would also be good. I think Louis is correct, ODF is a
> tactical tool to help OOo get adopted.  A display showing the success  of
> ODF adoption in other countries including OOo and/or a presentation I think
> would be beneficial. In fact, it might surprise many to see just how wide
> spread the adoption of ODF is and hence make  our effort   more convincing.

I agree, but how to incorporate it in the sign?

> Open Access is a popular movement amongst many Librarians and getting
> stronger. It is obvious that the dominant Office Suite restricts Open
> Access. This might be one point/theme we would  want to put emphasis on.

I have just mailed out 30 disk to a university in PA for an Open Source
panel discussion that is planed for next month.  I hope to be able get
the poc there to help develop some marketing ideas for other such groups.

> In general, I believe we would have better success pitching the adoption of
> OOo at the conference to poorer rural libraries that visit the booth, than
> large ones with huge IT teams i.e. NY Public library

I believe your right and that is who we need to reach.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-23 Thread Andy Brown
Follow up:

Andy Brown wrote:
> Drew Jensen wrote:
>>> I will be glad to do it.  Don't worry about the cost as I think I can
>>> cover that.  If we do as others have with the CDs then we can recover at
>>> least some of the cost.
>>>   
>> Do you have the lead time needed for the printer after they 'acceptable'
>> the art?
>>
> 
> For some reason I am thinking it is a week, but I have an email in to
> get a better answer.
> 

The time is variable from 3 to 21 days.  The shorter the time the higher
the shipping and processing cost.  So the sooner I can get the order in
the better.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
>>
>> I will be glad to do it.  Don't worry about the cost as I think I can
>> cover that.  If we do as others have with the CDs then we can recover at
>> least some of the cost.
>>   
> 
> Do you have the lead time needed for the printer after they 'acceptable'
> the art?
> 

For some reason I am thinking it is a week, but I have an email in to
get a better answer.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> 
> Tell you what - can you take this as yours and coordinate with folks in
> the art project (I see you sent an email already)
> 
> I will just pencil in $55.00 for a banner under projected costs and you
> as the owner, if that's alright?
> 
> (it would really be nice to have a banner before June 14th & 6 foot
> would be a good size)
> 

I will be glad to do it.  Don't worry about the cost as I think I can
cover that.  If we do as others have with the CDs then we can recover at
least some of the cost.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Andy,
> 
> Sign - no.  Joyce got a quote for a 3 ft banner today, but she hasn't
> gotten that to me yet.
> 
> Flier - ah, tell you the truth I didn't really have to time to look that
> over, I will do so this weekend OK.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Drew

Drew,

As a reference, I can get a 6ft by 2.5ft heavy duty, reusable, sign for
around $51.00.  I say reusable so that it can be used for, hopefully,
other events during the year.


Anytime on the flyer will be fine.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Hamish, Russel
> 
> Thanks again for prompting me to think a little more here.
> 
> My last trip cross country, I needed to use the public access computer
> kiosks at a couple of small town libraries (as in middle of Wyoming
> small). Both cases they had really nice printers (I was surprised a
> little) but the computers where a good 5-6 years old. (As an aside: one
> had a copy of OO.o 3 installed - when asked the Librarian said a local
> high school kid asked to install it - and - he was a good kid, so fine
> with her...but she didn't know anything about it )
> 
> My intention is to bring just such a machine, an older Compaq, with
> Linux/OO.o - this machine would not handle Win7/MSO 2010. I was thinking
> that it's one thing to say that Linux/OO.o breaths performance back into
> older hardware, it's another to let them see for themselves.
> 
> Also - I was thinking we could offer the workstation/PCS as a public
> access kiosk for the attendees, say for someone that needs to print a
> resume. For those that have the 'deer in the headlights look' when they
> realize it's not MS we have a real live person there to get them
> started. [might be a dumb idea ??]
> 
> Anyway, I'm just throwing out ideas here.
> 
> Drew
> 


Drew,

It sound good and reasonable to me.  Back in the old days sysops from
local bbs would meet up at the "computer shows" and pass out a bbs list
and sometimes have a "demo" bbs setup for new users to play with.  It
was great. :)

Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is that the layout of the flyer or the actual production of the flyers?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Drew
> 


Drew,

On the wiki page you ask for someone to make the print the flyers.
Since the flyer is three pages and most black & white let me know how
many you think will be needed and I will do them.

Also do you have a sign yet?  If not I will see what I can come up with.


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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown

Knowing MS, I would not put it past them.

Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Preventing software donations.. thats a concept :)
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Andy Brown 
> wrote:
>> WorldLabel.com wrote:
>>> Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can
>>> possibly help
>>> this effort:
>>>
>>> http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/
>>>
>>
>> This site has a very interesting page,
>> http://www.techsoup.org/stock/libraries/ .
>>
>> Sun is listed as donating servers and MS as donating software, with
>> restrictions.  If someone has the pull maybe OpenOffice.org could get
>> list, unless MS has a contract that prevents it.
>>
>> Andy
>>


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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
WorldLabel.com wrote:
> Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can possibly help
> this effort:
> 
> http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/
> 

This site has a very interesting page,
http://www.techsoup.org/stock/libraries/ .

Sun is listed as donating servers and MS as donating software, with
restrictions.  If someone has the pull maybe OpenOffice.org could get
list, unless MS has a contract that prevents it.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
WorldLabel.com wrote:
> Hi Andy
> 
> I was thinking mostly in terms of letting them know OOo will be exhibiting
> (free CDs and downloading available) and information on ODF will be
> available, so hopefully they would help us get the word out that we will be
> there though thier media outlets.
> 
> Best
> Russell

Hi Russell,

Sorry, I misunderstood.  That sounds great.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
WorldLabel.com wrote:
> Im listing here some other organizations and bloggers who can possibly help
> this effort:
> 
> http://www.oclc.org/us/en/default.htm
> http://www.oss4lib.org/ (very active open source group for libraries)
> http://www.webjunction.org
> http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/ (information wants to be free)
> http://www.techsoupforlibraries.org/
> http://www.libraryjournal.com/ (largest publication for libraries)
> http://www.educause.edu/
> http://www.arl.org/sparc/
> http://www.cni.org/
> 
> I will approach these entities at some point closer to the conference date
> to see if they can get the word out to help us.
> 
> If you know any other organizations and/or librarian bloggers to approach,
> please advise.
> 
> Russell

Russell,

Thanks for the links.  I am not sure how we can add these to this
mission, maybe adding another page to the flyer from Jean,  but they
will help on a local project I am working on.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is that the layout of the flyer or the actual production of the flyers?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Drew

Drew,

Have you have time to look at the flyer?  Contact me off list.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Brown
Heavlin, Lee wrote:
> Andy:  If you are going to be using these brochures for multiple
> conferences and will have a steady stream of orders coming from
> OpenOffice.org as a corporate identity, we offer just in time print on
> demand for a series of products.
> 
> We support some very large Fortune 500 companies that use our digital
> center and fulfillment resources.  Some use us for outfitting conference
> attendees with everything they need, shipped to conference center/hotel
> or to their office/home.
> 
> Volume is what makes the difference.  Let me know.

Morning Lee,

This runs into two problems.  The first is that OpenOffice.org does not
order them.  The second is that this could be a one time thing.

Thanks for the offer though.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-21 Thread Andy Brown
WorldLabel.com wrote:
> Jean Hollis Weber just forwarded these links on ODF for libraries which will
> be usefull:
> 
> http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/resources/ODF-for-libraries-Oct06.odt
> http://www.friendsofopendocument.com/resources/ODF-for-libraries-Oct06.pdf
> 
> Russell
> 

I just got the links myself.  I will see what I can do to get them
printed and ready.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-21 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> WorldLabel.com wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Jean Hollis Weber will arrange "What is OpenDocument Format and Why
>> Should
>> You Care?" flyers for us to hand out.
>>
>>   
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is that the layout of the flyer or the actual production of the flyers?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Drew

Drew,

I would assume that it would be the layout as Jean is in Australia.  I
will contact her and see about get a copy of the flyer.  I am working on
some other flyers so I can add this one to the mix as well.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-20 Thread Andy Brown
Lars Nooden wrote:
> 
> IFLA would be another organization to work through.  Open Standards and
> open source are in line with, one might say prerequisite to, the
> organizational goals.  That's true especially for ALA, which has a
> codified 'bill of rights' that could be brought up, dusted off and
> looked at.  It was a really hot topic for discussion through the 1990's
> 
> This link addresses the current state of awareness and compliance.
> http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/statementspols/statementsif/librarybillrights.cfm
> 
> /Lars

Lars,

The link above ends up with a "Page not found" error.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] The name OpenOffice.org

2010-01-19 Thread Andy Brown
Hi Lee,

Heavlin, Lee wrote:
> It is a trademark issue.  Someone else has OpenOffice trademarked.
> 
> See TechRepublic at:
> http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6055020.html
> 


Thanks for the info and link.

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[marketing] The name OpenOffice.org

2010-01-19 Thread Andy Brown
I know that there is an explanation somewhere as to why OpenOffice.org
is used but can not seem to find it.  Can someone send me a link?

Thanks in advance.


Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-15 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> Had a chance to talk with Mr. Widick at the ALA.
> 
> Details at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010
> 
> Drew
> 

Drew,

I found one small problem on the wiki.  Seems the link to my web page
has a '|' at end that seem to cause a problem when trying to follow the
link.  I am not sure how to go about editing so wanted to drop you a
message.


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Re: [marketing] newslet...@marketing.openoffice.org mailing list

2010-01-15 Thread Andy Brown
+1 form me.  If it is not used there is no need for it.

Andy

Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> my perception is that the newslet...@marketing.openoffice.org mailing
> list isn't widely used anymore. It was dedicated to the compilation for
> the newsletter and for sending news clippings to.
> 
> I suggest to use the d...@marketing mailing list for that and closing
> down the newsletter@ list.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Florian
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Re: [marketing] use OO through the net

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Brown
Hi all,

Gmail wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> +1 for online application of OO. Syncing and work away from workplace will be 
> the future trend in many profession. I personally carry a liveUSB around 
> should i in need of working away from my computer, and needed programs that 
> might not include in a normal shared PC.By moving a program online, users 
> would only need a working internet connection to continue their work. This 
> might not sounds as convincing for the OO to move online since any computer 
> should have office suite in it, yet it would still have other benefits.
> 
> By no means should we eliminate the option of a Cd, but it is also clear that 
> OO will have more exposure to many users our there if there is a online 
> version. It can serve as a really quick and no frills trial for interested 
> users and a really useful tool for those in need.
> 
> Regards,
> Colin Ng.



At least three online services offer access to OpenOffice.org via a web
interface.  I have no personal experience with any of these so can not
verify how good/bad they may be.

http://www.eseri.com/
http://alwaysonpc.com/
http://www.ulteo.com/home/en/ooo

I do not remember where I got the original link to these as I can not
find the messages, but they were in one of the OO.o mailing list.

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Re: [marketing] OpenOffice complaints from Danish "Students"

2010-01-12 Thread Andy Brown
Hi leif,

leif wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> There has been some problems, but it all came down to one thing: They
> are still using MS Office at home. They agreed that if they can lean to
> use a new mobile phone in hald an hour, they can also learn to use a new
> computer program. They agreed to be 'ambassadors' for the project.

How about giving the students a disk with OpenOffice.org so that it
could be installed on their home computers?  That would help remove part
of the problem.  The availability of training materials would then be
added to that to "convert" them to OO.o.

Just a thought.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-11 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Andy Brown wrote:
>>
>> I can assist with the OO.o CDs so that would be a "no cost".  All I
>> would need is a address to ship them and an estimate on how many would
>> be needed.  I would start on the CDs as soon as v3.2 is released.
>>
>>   
> 
> Being only a few hours drive (mini-van) I could certainly act as an
> early collection point.
> 


Drop me an email off list with your mailing address and a guess on the
number and OS you think would be good.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-11 Thread Andy Brown
WorldLabel.com wrote:

> I would help with some of that. And, there are other expenses, duplication
> of  OOo CDs, signs, flyers on why.openoffice.org  ect. I spoke to Richard
> Widick who handles sales of booths for ALA, he advised that they would "as a
> special for openoffice" give us a small table on press row for USD800 as an
> alternative if we wish. Im not sure how effective the small table will be.

I can assist with the OO.o CDs so that would be a "no cost".  All I
would need is a address to ship them and an estimate on how many would
be needed.  I would start on the CDs as soon as v3.2 is released.

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Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-11 Thread Andy Brown
WorldLabel.com wrote:
> Hi Everyone
> 
> I would be interested in helping (Donate) some funds for Openoffice
> exhibiting at
> http://www.ala.org/ala/conferencesevents/upcoming/annual/index.cfm In
> general I think attending and/or exhibiting at Linux/open source shows,
> besides trying to recruit help, is preaching to the choir.
> 
> Im a firm believer that it is the libraries in communities which can plant a
> lot of seeds for OOO to grow.
> 
> More info is available here: http://exhibitors.ala.org/
> 
> Russell Ossendryver
> 

+1 for OpenOffice.org to have someone there as I agree that "we" need to
spread the word outside of the OS community.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles

2010-01-10 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:

> Thanks Andy,
> 
> Well, Alexandro mentioned a possible 'Birds of a feather' meeting. Would
> that be something of interest to you?
> -and (since I'm being pushy :>)-
> Would that be something you might be willing to 'lead'?
> 
> Understanding of course that at this moment you aren't sure if you are
> going or not - but if you did.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Drew

If I am able to attend I would love to meet other OO.o users/project
members.  My biggest problem is that I will not know until the week of
the convention if I will be able to go.  If I am it will be for one day,
probably Sunday.  With this in mind I do not feel that I would be best
choice for 'lead', though thanks for asking.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles

2010-01-10 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Andy Brown wrote:
>> Hi Drew,
>>
>> No.  I mean that I will try to attend.  I live in San Diego and if I can
>> work things I would like to go, where Alexandro is there or not.
>>
>>   
> 
> I thought that was what you meant but wasn't really sure.
> 
> I hope you don't mind that I ask, but - Where you one of the folks that
> used to staff an OO.o booth at this event?
> 
> Thanks
> 

I don't mind you asking at all.  But no. I have only in the last year,
last May in fact, joined the OO.o team.  Though I have used
StarOffice/OpenOffice.org off and on for years.  I decided to try and
help where I can.

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Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles

2010-01-10 Thread Andy Brown
Drew Jensen wrote:
> Andy Brown wrote:
>> I vote +1.  I may even try to get up there.
>>   
> 
> Do you mean that you only go if Alexandro is in attendance?
> 

Hi Drew,

No.  I mean that I will try to attend.  I live in San Diego and if I can
work things I would like to go, where Alexandro is there or not.



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Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles

2010-01-09 Thread Andy Brown
I vote +1.  I may even try to get up there.

Andy


Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> I am putting a request of $500 USD to travel to SCALEx next month in
> Los Angeles. SCALE is one of the most important FLOSS events in the US
> along with OSCON, Ohio Linux Fest, etc.
> 
> This event is one where developers will be all over the place and
> would be great oportunity to recruit and have a display. Unfortunately
> this trip won't allow me to cover the expense of a boot. But I will be
> able to bring some brochures and CDs. But also walk around to other
> boots and recruit on the spot. Unfortunately I wont give a talk since
> the CFP was over on the 24th of last month but I will still be able to
> participate on the un-conference and drive a BOF on ODF/OOo and other
> of the projects I am involved like Education, BizDev and
> Certification.
> 
> It would be great to be able to have a presence on this event and
> network with many geeks from area including San Francisco. 500 dls
> will cover flight travel expense, hotel and local transportation will
> be covered by OOoES as well as partner sponsor.
> 
> 


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Re: [marketing] Proposed change of Marketing Project Lead

2010-01-01 Thread Andy Brown
John McCreesh wrote:
> Those of you with long memories may remember that Jacqueline asked me to
> become co-lead of the Marketing Project in April 2004. One of my first
> tasks was to compile a strategy for the MP, which was published at OOoCon
> 2004 as "The OpenOffice.org Strategic Marketing Plan 2005-2010". I then
> became Lead in May 2006, with the SMP as my bible.
> 
> We have now reached the magic year 2010, and I feel it is time for the MP
> to benefit from fresh leadership. Since June 2007 I have had tremendous
> support from Florian as my co-Lead, and I would like to recommend him to
> you as the right person to lead the MP from 2010 onwards.
> 
> As we're entering a busy period (3.2 to launch, OOoCon 2011 to award,
> MS-Office 2010 to compete with..) I have offered to stay on as co-Lead
> until Florian finds co-Lead(s) to help him.
> 
> OOo's procedures state: "Transitioning from one Project Lead to another is
> almost always a graceful and smooth affair. The Project Lead or leads are
> encouraged to nominate their successors, who must be members of the
> project, and hold a plebiscite on the primary public mail list."
> 
> So, I would ask you all to confirm whether you are happy to endorse this
> change of Lead, and if so, please welcome Florian and give him your
> support as he takes up this challenging position.
> 
> John

Happy New Year, John.

If you can not be talked in to staying on I will gladly support Florian
as the new project lead.

Andy


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Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration

2010-01-01 Thread Andy Brown
Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> as we had New Year's celebration last night, I had a little idea: How
> about a little countdown to our 10th anniversary on October 13th? We can
> enhance it with a nice dedicated website later on, but what do you think
> about the general countdown idea? Maybe not in January, as it's too
> early, but on the other hand, the earlier, the better...
> 
> Florian
> 

Hi Florian,

Sound like a good marketing plan to me.  Is there any way I can help?

Andy


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