resignation from PMC

2023-06-04 Thread Glenn Holmer
Pursuant to the Apache PMC Guide[1], this email serves as my
resignation from the Apache NetBeans PMC.

[1] https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 18

2023-05-24 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/23/23 10:00, Neil C Smith wrote:
> -- Answer form 
> 
> [X] yes / +1
> [ ] no / -1 (please justify -1)
> [X] binding (member of PMC)
> 
> My vote is based on
> 
> [X] I have built and tested the source with JDK 17 on Debian Linux (required)
> [X] I have tested the binary zip with  on 
> [X] I have tested the Linux installer(s) with JDK 17 on Ubuntu Linux
> [ ] I have tested the Maven artefacts
> [ ] I have tested the VSCode extension
> 
> Additional info (optional) - any specifics on what you've tested
Verified SHA and crypto sig for source, binary, and Linux installer.
Built source on Debian "Bookworm" Linux with JDK 17.
Tested source build and binary under Debian and JDK 17 with both 
MATE/Compiz and KDE.
Tested Linux installer (using "dpkg -i") on Ubuntu 23.04 "Lunar Lobster" 
with GNOME using JDK 17.
> --

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Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-11 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 4/11/23 05:55, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Well, what we're trying to do here is keep the whole project together
> and not branch, which comes down to forking.

When there's an irreconcilable argument about the direction of a
project, it's the only solution. My hope is that the JDK8 gang will see
the error of their ways and come back to the fold after losing the vote.

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Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-11 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 4/10/23 10:19, László Kishalmi wrote:
> There is a way to support old software, and that is called branching.
> It is that simple.

If the JDK8 gang had the courage of their convictions, they'd have
forked by now instead of pulling the whole project down. They could call
it DeadBeans.

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Re: [VOTE] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-11 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 4/11/23 03:16, Neil C Smith wrote:
> * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the
> platform on JDK 8.
>
> * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run
> the IDE or platform will be JDK 11.

+1 (binding)

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Re: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-03 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 4/3/23 04:38, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> # Proposed policy
>
> * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the
> platform on JDK 8.

+1, well thought out.

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Re: [DISCUSS] tweak some defaults (round two)

2023-03-20 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 3/18/23 23:01, Michael Bien wrote:
> i believe the last "good defaults" thread [1] produced some good
> results, so why not start another one for NB 18+.

> my current list in my notes is the following (taken from issues,
> discussions, and some of it might be my own preference):

> feel free to post your own suggestions of course, lets discuss,

This one's been bothering me for a long time: the plugins list. Why is
it grouped into categories? I suppose if you want to work with e.g. all
the Java FX plugins at once, but aren't things like that usually handled
automatically when you ask for a project of that type? And it doesn't
look like you can choose to view only those plugins in any case, only
mass activate/deactivate.

But more importantly, if you click "Show Details" (which is always the
first thing I do), you get the actual plugin list, but it's not sorted.
Why do we have to click on the Name column to sort it? Shouldn't that be
the default?

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Re: NetBeans Swag Proposals - voting / next steps

2023-03-11 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 3/11/23 09:43, Pyro MX wrote:
> With the much appreciated help of Emmanuel Hugonnet, Mark Thomas and
> Geertjan Wielenga, I am ready to present to you the swag proposals we've
> been working on in the past few months.
>
> * T-shirt designs:
> https://github.com/njuneau/netbeans-swag/blob/main/proposals/previews.svg
> * Long-sleeved designs:
> https://github.com/njuneau/netbeans-swag/blob/main/proposals/previews-with-side-print.svg

I like the ones with the old-style cube logo!

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 17

2023-02-18 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/16/23 09:13, Neil C Smith wrote:
> [X] yes / +1
> [ ] no / -1 (please justify -1)
> [X] binding (member of PMC)
>
> My vote is based on
>
> [X] I have built and tested the source with OpenJDK 17.0.2 on Debian Linux
> [ ] I have tested the binary zip with  on 
> [X] I have tested the Linux installer(s) with OpenJDK (see below) on Linux
> [ ] I have tested the Maven artefacts
> [ ] I have tested the VSCode extension

For source:
Verified no jar files.
Verified sha512 and crypto signatures.
Built under JDK 17.0.2, did light testing of two current projects.

For Linux installers:
Verified sha512 and crypto signatures.

Installed the .deb on Debian 12 "Bookworm" running MATE/Compiz.
Installed with "dpkg -i", ran under openjdk 17.0.2.
Item appeared in main menu, everything appeared to work.

Installed the .rpm on OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 running KDE.
Installed with "rpm -i", ran under openjdk 17.0.6.
Item appeared in main menu, everything appeared to work.

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Re: 17 blocker? — [apache/netbeans] no library found for namespace http://omnifaces.org/ui (Issue #4976)

2023-02-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/16/23 09:01, Michael Bien wrote:
> we should consider to put it on the release notes that Jakarta support
> is in early stages and that the enterprise cluster in general is
> currently WIP.
>
> the JDK8 commit validation tests issue delayed the big Jakarta PR so
> much that there was basically no time left for proper stabilization of
> the PR once it was merged. I think it was still right to merge it so
> that there is at least some support, but we should do a bit "expectation
> management".
Good god. Are you saying that keeping JDK8 was at the cost of breaking
EE support? That's completely unacceptable. We need to do as Papa Java says:

"In my opinion, JDK8 must die... Stop the unholy contortions to coexist.
Kill it. Nail its coffin closed. Do not look back."

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Re: Lets talk about JDK 8 (new year edition)

2023-02-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/13/23 21:28, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Java 8 is becoming a dead weight on this project.

+1

> Help me understand, that those projects which are stuck on Java 8 for
> whatever reason, why can't stuck on a specific NetBeans version as well?

To me, that's the crux of the problem. If you need an old version of the
JDK, run an old version of NetBeans. Don't try and hold back the current
version.

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Re: nb-javac for building NetBeans itself

2022-10-26 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/25/22 22:48, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> I'm confused as well. Still not clear, what are we about to solve here.
> Use new lang spec with old runtimes? I do not have granny issues...

Also confused. If this is all so people can still code for Java 8 in
this day and age, I say drop support for JDK8 ("Nuke the site from
orbit, it's the only way to be sure"). I may be out of touch, being
retired for eight years now, but IMHO anyone still using Java 8 would be
better off to stay in his parents' basement with his VAX-11 coding
assembly language. It's getting as bad as the Python 2/3 thing was.

And if it's so you can code using new features not available in the JDK
you're using... use the newer JDK! I just don't understand any of this,
but I do remember a time when NetBeans was the leader in out-of-box
support for new language features.

> The examples of Java 17 has no support for Java 6 target, makes this
> discussion ridiculous.

+1, what are we even talking about here? Java 6? seriously?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 15

2022-08-27 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 8/27/22 08:52, Neil C Smith wrote:
> This is our first voting candidate for the release of Apache NetBeans 15.

+1 (binding)

Checked sha512sums and crypto sigs (Neil, has your key expired?)
Verified no jar files.
Built with OpenJDK 17.0.2.
Did light testing of a couple of Java FX projects.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 14 Linux installer

2022-06-04 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/3/22 05:57, Neil C Smith wrote:
> Vote for Apache NetBeans 14 Linux installer.

+1 (binding)

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 14

2022-06-02 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/1/22 12:46, Eric Barboni wrote:
> This is our first voting candidate for the release of Apache NetBeans 14.

+1 (binding)

OpenJDK 17.0.2 on Debian 11 "Bullseye"
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ran Netbeans and did light testing with a JavaFX project
installed convenience binary and did the same testing

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next release

2022-05-29 Thread Glenn Holmer
I'm losing track... when is our next RC? and when the release of 14?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 13 Linux installer

2022-02-28 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/25/22 12:21, Neil C Smith wrote:
> Vote for Apache NetBeans 13 Linux installer.

+1 (binding)

Verified sha512 and crypto signature.
Ran installer on:
1) Manjaro Linux (KDE), zulu jdk17
2) Debian Linux (MATE/Compiz), zulu jdk17
In both cases, the installer added both a desktop icon and a start menu
item.
Opened projects and did light testing.

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-Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true

2022-02-26 Thread Glenn Holmer
Do we still need to build with -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 13

2022-02-26 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/23/22 10:02, Neil C Smith wrote:
> This is our first voting candidate for the release of Apache NetBeans 13.

+1 (binding)

verified sha512 and crypto signatures on files
verified no jar files in src zip
extracted and built source under AdoptOpenJDK-11.0.11+9
built and ran existing JavaFX project under openjdk 17 on Debian Linux
also tested convenience binary

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Re: GitHub issues - initial templates and labels

2022-01-06 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 1/6/22 09:38, Neil C Smith wrote:
> Following the lazy consensus thread I've started work on porting
> Airflow's issue forms for NetBeans, making changes where necessary.
> 
> There is an in progress PR at https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3415

The bug report form is excellent. It looks welcoming, like we really
want people to file issues. The last thing you want is for someone to
start filing an issue, then give up in exasperation because it's more
complicated than their tax returns. I was particularly impressed by "we
are happy to guide you in the contribution process".

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Re: Add support for other programming languages

2022-01-03 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 1/3/22 12:11, John Kostaras wrote:

Thank you all for your replies.

We can continue on (please vote):

  * slack (NetBeans #plugin-developers)
  * create a google group
  * use this email thread


use this email thread: +1

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 Linux installer

2021-11-24 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 11/24/21 08:20, Neil C Smith wrote:

Vote for Apache NetBeans 12.6 Linux installer.


+1 (binding)

Verified sha512sum and crypto signature.
Installed on latest Debian (MATE) and Ubuntu (GNOME).

Both installs created desktop icons and start-menu icons, although on 
Ubuntu, the desktop icon was not recognized as a program (desktop file 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6

2021-11-24 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 11/22/21 11:21, Neil C Smith wrote:

This is our first voting candidate for the 12.6 release of Apache NetBeans.


+1 (binding)

verified sha512sums and crypto signatures
verified no jar files in expanded source zip
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Re: Mocking framework

2021-10-11 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 10/11/21 07:43, Neil C Smith wrote:

On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 03:33, Tim Boudreau  wrote:

So you have to run a bunch of harder to set up integration tests if you
actually want to know if you broke something. The unit tests are a lovely
Potemkin village that show fabulous “coverage” and tell you nothing about
whether the software works. They are useless.


Thanks, Tim, for the whole post, and particularly this point - spot on!


I enjoyed that, too. "a lovely Potemkin village", heh.

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Re: Release Team for 12.6?

2021-09-24 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 9/24/21 03:39, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Who'd like to volunteer to join Neil and me on the release team for 12.6?

What you'll be doing -- verifying issues, trying out builds, giving
feedback, being the go-to people around the time of the release, coming up
in the next month or two, help identify the important bugs to be fixed, etc.

Not all of these will be done by anyone, just a few of these, those that
you're most comfortable with and can fit into your schedule.


Sounds like NetCAT :) How will you be assigning tasks to the volunteers?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.5 Linux Installer

2021-09-15 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 9/13/21 11:00, Eric Barboni wrote:

We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.5 Linux installer.


+1 (binding)

checked sha512sum and crypto signature
Installed twice: both OSs were Debian Bullseye, but one was KDE Plasma 
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Re: VSCode

2021-08-16 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 8/16/21 2:23 PM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:

Hello Glenn. I am driving the effort. OracleLabs decided to build
their VSCode tooling on top of NetBeans backend.


Thanks, Yarda. That's the answer I was looking for.

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Re: [External] : Re: VSCode

2021-08-16 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 8/16/21 9:07 AM, Martin Balin wrote:
1. Any changes done in NetBeans for LSP and VSCode are not done at 
the cost of “core” NetBeans features. They build on it.

2. Having NetBeans Language Server enables NetBeans for other
scenarios in the future like running in some distributed  client
server architecture like browser java ide. Basically similar to what
Eclipse JDT Language Server does.
3. More NetBeans usage, more contributions, more users….

Hope this helps to explain it.


Yes, thanks Martin. I feel better now. When I see all those VSCode PRs, 
I always worry that NetBeans' future might be just as an organ donor to 
other IDEs... thoughts of Dr Frankenstein come to mind.


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Re: VSCode

2021-08-16 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 8/16/21 8:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Wait, but this is not news, right? There have been multiple releases now of
the VS Code integration from Apache NetBeans.


The question stands. It was prompted by "Let's share significant parts 
of the UI in VSNetBeans", which seems to indicate that larger parts of 
NetBeans are now being ported.


Who is driving the effort to port parts of NetBeans to VSCode and what's 
the end game?


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VSCode

2021-08-16 Thread Glenn Holmer

Re. https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3107


Let's use the `Node` and [ExplorerManager] concepts to share
significant parts of the UI in VSNetBeans.


What exactly is the objective here? Who is driving the effort to port 
parts of NetBeans to VSCode and what's the end game?


The wiki says "Install VSNetBeans into VS Code, use it, and maybe you'll 
want to try the complete Apache NetBeans experience". Really? All that 
work to make a VSCode plugin as opposed to working on and promoting 
NetBeans itself?


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Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach

2021-06-11 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 6/11/21 8:41 AM, Kenneth Fogel wrote:

Did you say we are all Spartacus? Or was that NetCAT? ;~}


Are we not cats? We are NetCAT!

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Re: #netbeans IRC channel

2021-06-06 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 6/6/21 4:40 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:

The netbeans space along with many other apache project spaces was
proactively acquired by infra at the very beginning of libera's
existence. We have full control over the space and can grant admin
permissions and cloaks as needed.


Excellent!

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Re: #netbeans IRC channel

2021-05-30 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 5/29/21 4:42 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Sure, we can add to our domain, just provide a PR:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/tree/master/netbeans.apache.org


That's not where that would go, is it? They're asking for a TXT record 
in the DNS. That's more of an infra thing, right? That's why I asked if 
I should request an alternate (easier) verification method.



On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:52 PM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:


Would love to get you set up. Could you please add the following TXT
record on your domain (netbeans.apache.org) for verification
purposes?

...


This record can be removed after verifying your registration.  If you
are unable to, let me know, and we can work on alternate verification
methods.


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#netbeans IRC channel

2021-05-29 Thread Glenn Holmer
For some time, there has been a #netbeans IRC channel on the Freenode 
network. As you're probably aware, there have been a lot of problems and 
controversy surrounding Freenode lately, not the least of which is that 
hundreds of channels were taken over (including #netbeans). I took the 
liberty of registering #netbeans on irc.libera.chat and requesting 
community status. Are there any objections?


Their response was:


Would love to get you set up. Could you please add the following TXT
record on your domain (netbeans.apache.org) for verification
purposes?

...


This record can be removed after verifying your registration.  If you
are unable to, let me know, and we can work on alternate verification
methods.

Shall I ask for an alternate verification method?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.4 Linux Installer

2021-05-21 Thread Glenn Holmer

We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.4 Linux installer.


+1 (binding)

Verified sha512sum and crypto keys.

Installed under JDK 11 on latest Ubuntu/MATE and Fedora/GNOME. In both 
cases, the installer added an icon.


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Re: jars in src dist

2021-05-17 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 5/17/21 7:54 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2021, 13:49 Glenn Holmer,  wrote:


When testing the 12.4 voting candidate, I noticed quite a few jar files
in the source zip. Is the list in the voting announcement current?

cenbe@greyhand:/mnt/common/netbeans-src/netbeans > find . -name "*jar"



Make sure to use -type f too - a bunch of those aren't files.


Oh, of course. That leaves mostly files named fake*.jar :)


The maven testing ones do need adding to our release vote list. They're not
empty either, but don't contain compiled code.


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Re: Urgent Concern

2021-05-17 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 5/17/21 6:01 AM, Isaac Gakambi wrote:
Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org, net...@netbeans.apache.org, 
	annou...@netbeans.apache.org, comm...@netbeans.apache.org, 
	notificati...@netbeans.apache.org


Don't cross-post, it's very impolite.

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jars in src dist

2021-05-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
When testing the 12.4 voting candidate, I noticed quite a few jar files 
in the source zip. Is the list in the voting announcement current?


cenbe@greyhand:/mnt/common/netbeans-src/netbeans > find . -name "*jar"
./enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/subdir/nottaDir-5.0.jar
./enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/nottaDir-4_1_2.jar
./enterprise/j2ee.api.ejbmodule/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/api/ejbjar
./enterprise/j2ee.api.ejbmodule/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/ejbjar
./enterprise/j2ee.api.ejbmodule/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/spi/ejbjar
./enterprise/j2ee.api.ejbmodule/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/ejbjar
./enterprise/payara.common/test/unit/data/subdir/nottaDir-5.0.jar
./enterprise/payara.common/test/unit/data/nottaDir-4_1_2.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/core/core.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-netbeans-core-windows.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-netbeans-modules-gradle.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-netbeans-modules-java-j2seplatform.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-netbeans-modules-maven-indexer.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-netbeans-modules-maven.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-netbeans-modules-projectui.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-openide-loaders.jar
./java/java.lsp.server/nbcode/branding/modules/org-openide-text.jar
./java/maven/src/org/netbeans/modules/maven/runjar
./java/maven/test/unit/data/mavenmock/2.2/lib/fake221.jar
./java/maven/test/unit/data/mavenmock/3.0.5/lib/fake305.jar
./java/maven/test/unit/data/mavenmock/3.3.1/lib/fake331.jar
./java/maven/test/unit/data/mavenmock/4.0.0/lib/fake400.jar
./java/maven/test/unit/data/mavenmock/source.jar
./java/maven/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/modules/maven/runjar
./platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar
cenbe@greyhand:/mnt/common/netbeans-src/netbeans >

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.4 (vote candidate 1)

2021-05-17 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 5/14/21 4:28 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

This is our first voting candidate for the 12.4 release of Apache NetBeans.
Please note all requirements below for validating sources and convenience
binaries before voting.


+1 (binding)

Verified sha512sums and crypto signatures.
Built from source on Linux under JDK 11.0.11.
Tested both source build and binary by doing some work on my gopher 
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Re: Apache NetBeans 12.4-rc1 is Available for Testing!

2021-04-22 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 4/22/21 7:07 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

April 21: Weekly Release Candidate 1


Can build from source with no problems now, looks like lbruun's fix took 
care of it. Thanks!


https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2826

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12.4 beta 1 -- zombie spellchecker

2021-04-02 Thread Glenn Holmer
One of the first things I do when installing NetBeans is to disable the 
spellchecker. So I installed 12.4 beta 1, disabled the spellchecker, let 
NetBeans restart... and the spellchecker was still active!


After a couple of tries to verify that I hadn't misclicked, I 
uninstalled the spellchecker plugin, and then the beta would no longer 
start:


org.netbeans.InvalidException: 
StandardModule:org.netbeans.modules.spellchecker jarFile: 
/mnt/common/netbeans-dev/netbeans/ide/modules/org-netbeans-modules-spellchecker.jar: 
Layer not found: org/netbeans/modules/spellchecker/resources/layer.xml


Can anyone else confirm this?

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Re: unable to build 12.3-vc1

2021-03-05 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 3/5/21 12:47 PM, Eric Bresie wrote:

I've had similar issues which the solution at the time was to wait a little
bit (I think there may be some ongoing activity on the box which makes it
unavailable to pull from).  After a while I try it again and it seems to
clear itself out.


Ewww, that's not very scientific!

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.3 Linux Installer

2021-03-03 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 3/3/21 1:57 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.3 Windows installer.


Did you mean: "12.3 Linux installer"?  :)

+1 (binding)

verified sha512 and crypto sig
installed w/JDK 11.0.8 on Debian 11 "bullseye"
install was on KDE Plasma; start menu option created correctly
verified the IDE runs properly

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.3 (vote candidate 1)

2021-03-01 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 2/27/21 4:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

This is our first voting candidate for the 12.3 release of Apache NetBeans.
It is built off the same commit as 12.3-beta3. Please note all requirements
below for validating sources and convenience binaries before voting.


+1 (binding)

checked sha512sums and crypto sigs
verified no jar files
built from source and used it for development for a day

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Re: unable to build 12.3-vc1

2021-03-01 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 2/27/21 12:32 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:

Am Samstag, den 27.02.2021, 12:25 -0600 schrieb Glenn Holmer:

I still can't build NetBeans.


without network traces - difficult to say, but have a look at this:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2417#issue-497112667


Thanks, I got it to build using those instructions. But I still don't 
see why that should be necessary. I have no other network problems here.


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Re: Fwd: unable to build 12.3-vc1

2021-03-01 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 3/1/21 5:37 AM, Jeremy Cavanagh wrote:
I have this same problem, which has been resolved. I'm running on macos 
10.14 and use homebrew for many things.


The solution is to see if you have jdk 15 on your system and hide it. 
For me that means moving it out of /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines, 
and check /ust/local/Cellar for a rogue jdk 15 that is installed as a 
dependency for another package.


If you're on Windows someting similar might work. After


Nope. Linux here, no jdk15. I don't "install" anyway, I just extract the 
AdoptOpenJDK tarball and adjust a symlink if I want to change JVMs.


In any case, shouldn't it build with anything over jdk8 if you use 
"-Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true"?


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unable to build 12.3-vc1

2021-02-27 Thread Glenn Holmer
I still can't build NetBeans. Downloaded all six files for 12.3-vc1, 
verified crypto sigs and sha512sum. I'm building on OpenJDK 11.0.10 with


ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true build

and the build stops with

BUILD FAILED
/mnt/common/netbeans-12.3-src/nbbuild/build.xml:119: 
java.io.IOException: Cannot connect to 
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=netbeans-jenkins-lib.git;a=blob_plain;f=meta/netbeansrelease.json


I tried several times, and I can resolve that URL in a browser. What am 
I doing wrong?


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Re: Heads-up: netbeans.org EOL on March 6th

2021-02-23 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 2/23/21 8:26 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
    I knew this day would come but I didn't expect it would be me 
announcing with mixed feelings that the netbeans.org domain will reach 
its end of life on 6th of March, 2021.


The king is dead! Long live the king!


[2] https://netbeans.org/community/teams/evangelism/collateral-archive.html


A lot of good memories here :)

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can't build

2021-01-05 Thread Glenn Holmer
I can't build or even clean my freshly-updated NetBeans sources; I get 
this error:


/mnt/common/netbeans-src/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:119: 
java.io.IOException: Cannot connect to 
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=netbeans-jenkins-lib.git;a=blob_plain;f=meta/netbeansrelease.json


How can I resolve this? If I paste that URL into a browser, I can see 
the JSON file just fine.


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.2 Linux Installer

2020-11-27 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 11/25/20 6:08 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
The Apache NetBeans 12.2 Source bundle has been voted to be released, so 
I call the community to vote on the complimentary Linux Installer.


+1 (binding)


Please check,

- the checksum


sha512sum OK


- the signature


crypto signature OK


- does it work?


Installed on Debian 10 ("buster") and 11 ("bullseye") running KDE Plasma 
under JDK 11. Both installs were successful and left a working entry in 
the KDE start menu.


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Re: building 12.2 vc1 from source

2020-11-17 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 11/17/20 12:25 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:

Could you please rerun with:

wget --no-proxy 
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/rat/apache-rat/0.12/apache-rat-0.12.jar


cenbe@greyhand:~ > wget --no-proxy 
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/rat/apache-rat/0.12/apache-rat-0.12.jar
--2020-11-17 12:33:59-- 
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/rat/apache-rat/0.12/apache-rat-0.12.jar

Resolving repo1.maven.org (repo1.maven.org)... 199.232.76.209
Connecting to repo1.maven.org (repo1.maven.org)|199.232.76.209|:443... 
connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1592593 (1.5M) [application/java-archive]
Saving to: ‘apache-rat-0.12.jar’

apache-rat-0.12.jar 
100%[=>] 
  1.52M  --.-KB/sin 0.1s


2020-11-17 12:33:59 (13.2 MB/s) - ‘apache-rat-0.12.jar’ saved 
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Re: building 12.2 vc1 from source

2020-11-17 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 11/17/20 11:43 AM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:

Ok - logging is not optimal *arg*. Could you please run:

wget 
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/rat/apache-rat/0.12/apache-rat-0.12.jar


cenbe@greyhand:~/temp > wget 
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/rat/apache-rat/0.12/apache-rat-0.12.jar
--2020-11-17 12:12:49-- 
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/rat/apache-rat/0.12/apache-rat-0.12.jar

Resolving repo1.maven.org (repo1.maven.org)... 199.232.64.209
Connecting to repo1.maven.org (repo1.maven.org)|199.232.64.209|:443... 
connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1592593 (1.5M) [application/java-archive]
Saving to: ‘apache-rat-0.12.jar’

apache-rat-0.12.jar 100%[==>]   1.52M  8.12MB/sin 
0.2s


2020-11-17 12:12:49 (8.12 MB/s) - ‘apache-rat-0.12.jar’ saved 
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Re: building 12.2 vc1 from source

2020-11-17 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 11/17/20 10:57 AM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:

Am Dienstag, den 17.11.2020, 10:40 -0600 schrieb Glenn Holmer:

I tried building 12.2 vc1 from source under JDK 11.0.8 using Ant
1.10.9 with this command:

ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true build

and got:

/mnt/common/netbeans-12.2-src/nbbuild/build.xml:72: Failed to
download binaries - see log message for the detailed reasons.

Did I take a wrong step? Where to find the mentioned log file?



The invocation looks sane. The build system downloads resources from
the https://netbeans.osuosl.org/ and maven central. There could be a
downtime of one of these or a temporary problem in your network
environment.

Errors while downloading should be displayed above the final message
you quoted. It might help to redirect the build log to a file:

ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true build 2>&1 | tee build.log

Please retry the build and if it still fails, please provide the
build.log.


https://www.lyonlabs.org/build.log

Not out of disk space, and I did get seven files in ~/.hgexternalcache/.

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building 12.2 vc1 from source

2020-11-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
I tried building 12.2 vc1 from source under JDK 11.0.8 using Ant 1.10.9 
with this command:


ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true build

and got:

/mnt/common/netbeans-12.2-src/nbbuild/build.xml:72: Failed to download 
binaries - see log message for the detailed reasons.


Did I take a wrong step? Where to find the mentioned log file?

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Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-09 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 9/9/20 2:02 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:

I still fail to see the difference between repetetive work on the code
base working on source code and repetetive work on graphics.

I worked for a company where the graphics designers were the only ones
using mac OS systems.


So did I: I won't repeat the number, but I was told by our systems guys 
that it cost an outrageous amount of money for a new guy in that 
department to sit down on his first day of work.



Reasoning was, that their work could only be done
on these machines. They were special somehow and I still don't grasp
it. At that time other OSes could run their software and other OSes
could be color calibrated.

I see this again: Now graphics designers need "their" software to work,
the one available to all potential contributors is not good enough. Now
graphics designers need to be paid, contrary to other contributors.

I will pull out of this discussion - I said what I had to say and it
would be great if other people say what they think.


100% agree. If we need to expand the pool of contributors to people who 
work in /open source/ design, then let's try and do that. This is 
Apache, not Adobe.


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.1 Linux installer

2020-09-03 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 9/2/20 9:14 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:

This is the vote thread for the Linux installer for Apache NetBeans
12.1.  Before voting please check that the signature and checksum are
correct, that the installer is functional, and that it correctly
installs Apache NetBeans 12.1. NB. amongst other checks, see that the
module versions output to IDE log include the right git hash for the
release.


+1 (binding)

Verified sha512sum and Neil's crypto sig.
Verified git hash for modules matched that of release121 branch.

Installed with JDK 11 on:

Manjaro 20.0 with KDE
Ubuntu 20.04 with GNOME
Debian "testing" with MATE

All put an icon to both the desktop and the menu, although on Ubuntu 
with GNOME, the desktop icon showed a "generic" icon rather than the 
NetBeans icon and was not functional (double-clicking opened the 
.desktop file rather than launching NetBeans).


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Re: NETBEANS-4696

2020-08-30 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 8/30/20 10:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
After casting my vote for 12.1 vc1, I encountered 4696 again (on vc1). I 
added another thread dump:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4696


This is starting to worry me. I just saw the same thing when upgrading 
one of my laptops to 12.1-vc1. This is on first start. The only thing I 
did that might have been naughty was to rename the beta4 user and cache 
dirs to 12.1.


I was able to close NetBeans normally. Took another thread dump first 
and put it to JIRA.


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NETBEANS-4696

2020-08-30 Thread Glenn Holmer
After casting my vote for 12.1 vc1, I encountered 4696 again (on vc1). I 
added another thread dump:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4696

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.1 (vote candidate 1)

2020-08-30 Thread Glenn Holmer

On 8/26/20 9:47 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:

This is our first voting candidate for the 12.1 release of Apache
NetBeans. It is built off the same commit as 12.1-beta4. Please note
all requirements below for validating sources and convenience binaries
before voting.


+1 (binding)

Verified sha512sum and Neil's crypto signature on netbeans-12.1-bin.zip 
and netbeans-12.1-source.zip.


Verified no jars present except those specified.

Built from source under JDK 11.0.8 using "ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true 
build".


Did light testing of both source build and binary on projects I'd worked 
on during the betas.


(Previously tested Linux installer on beta 4, which properly created 
desktop icons and menu entries for KDE, Mate, and XFCE.)


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Re: missing token

2020-08-07 Thread Glenn Holmer




On 8/7/20 8:49 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
When filing a JIRA issue, what does it mean "Jira could not attach the 
file as there was a missing token"? I'm logged in with my Apache ID.


nm, got it after reloading the page

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missing token

2020-08-07 Thread Glenn Holmer
When filing a JIRA issue, what does it mean "Jira could not attach the 
file as there was a missing token"? I'm logged in with my Apache ID.


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Re: Spring Support

2020-06-10 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/9/20 11:58 PM, Brain Rebooting wrote:
> Can we get a React Native plugin? The last thing we need maybe. All know
> that it's hugely popular. Though Netbeans already support Android apps
> development,

It does?

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Re: Announce 12.0 release?

2020-06-09 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/9/20 10:37 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Though much smaller audience, but:
> 
> -- Our NetBeans Slack
> 
> -- NetBeans Telegram Group
> 
> On 6/9/20 4:07 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Are we ready to announce the 12.0 release?
>>
>> -- Twitter
>> -- Facebook
>> -- Users mailing list
>> -- Announce mailing list
>> -- Apache NetBeans Blog
>>
>> Any other places?

I've already announced it in the freenode IRC channel. It's not many
people, only the cool kids use IRC :)

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Re: [NOTICE] Apache NetBeans 12.0 merge windows OPEN

2020-06-09 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/9/20 4:13 AM, Eric Barboni wrote:
> All post release commits are done (sigtests and spec version increments).
> 
> Consider master mergeable again.
Thank you for acting as release manager. 12.0 is something we can be
proud of.

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filing issues

2020-06-07 Thread Glenn Holmer
The NetBeans home page

http://netbeans.apache.org/

has a link "filing issues" in the Participate box:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/summary

that winds up on a JIRA page which (unless you have an account and are
logged in) shows the error "This gadget cannot be displayed on your
dashboard...". This seems unhelpful for users who want to file issues.
Should it maybe point here instead?

http://netbeans.apache.org/participate/report-issue.html

And shouldn't that page mention that you need a login? Otherwise users
will never see the "Create" button.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.0 Linux Installer

2020-06-03 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/3/20 11:04 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> -1 (binding)
> 
> Something really went wrong.
> 
> The signature and checksum are good.
> 
> Tried to install. It says that Java SE requires HTML/Javascript which is
> a bit strange.
> 
> What's worse the Groovy cluster cannot be installed at all. So no Gradle
> support in this distribution available.

I don't use Gradle (or Groovy), so I may not know what I'm talking
about, but I created a simple Gradle project and it appeared to
initialize Groovy and download and install Gradle. The project ran.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.0 Linux Installer

2020-06-03 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/3/20 4:56 AM, Eric Barboni wrote:
> Main vote is almost over,  The easiest installer for linux can be voted I
> guess (no certification request or notarizaion). Not tested myself having
> only textual linux.

+1 (binding)

Verified sha512sum and PGP signature.

Installed using AdoptOpenJDK (build 11.0.7+10) on Debian Linux 10
"Buster" with KDE Plasma. Installer correctly put an icon in the start
menu. Removed PHP as option at install time.

Did light testing including opening existing FX project, creating new
one with run/debug/profile, and opening existing Swing project.

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Re: wrong FX architecture prompt

2020-06-02 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/2/20 3:55 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
>> I would recommend using ant build and then extracting the zip to test the 
>> release. I changed some of the related documentation along these lines 
>> during 11.2. There are some subtle differences.
>>
>> IIRC you have an extras folder in bin/netbeans? This will already have the 
>> JavaFX modules in it. I wonder if that's the root cause of the different 
>> behaviour?
> 
> OK, so had time to test, and existence of the extras folder appears to
> be the trigger.
> 
> Another reason to always use `ant build` (not the default task!) and
> extract the zip to test the release build.

Built with "ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true build".
Unzipped
nbbuild/NetBeans-dev-12.0-631bd69cd6112b1cc4c892c24e3e605b1ba04241-release.zip
and ran netbeans/bin/netbeans.
Problem does not appear.

Where is this documented? Shouldn't it be in the vote email?

>From apache.netbeans.org, you can click "installed" (in the "Cross
Platform" box) and click "Find out more" under "Daily builds and
building from source", but the "For details, go here:" link says to
build using just "ant".

A Google search brought me to here:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/master/README.md
(which also doesn't say "ant build").

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Re: wrong FX architecture prompt

2020-06-01 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/1/20 3:56 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020, 21:49 Glenn Holmer,  wrote:
> 
>> Just as I described. I tried it again just now, and got the "JavaFX
>> Implementation for Windows" prompt, as Matthias reported. Interestingly,
>> when I used the convenience binary instead of the build from source, it
>> correctly said "Linux".
>>
> 
> Out of interest, how did you build - ant or ant build? And how did you run
> it after build? From the zip?

ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true
nbbuild/netbeans/bin/netbeans

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.0 [vote candidate 1]

2020-06-01 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/31/20 7:13 AM, Eric Barboni wrote:
> This is our first voting candidate for the 12.0 LTS release of Apache
> NetBeans.
> Note that this is our first release vote where you are required to check
> both sources and convenience binaries before voting!

+1 (binding)

Downloaded binary and source zips, sha512sum passes on both.
No jar files present in source except the five listed.
Cryptographic signature by Eric Barboni verified.

Built under AdoptOpenJDK (build 11.0.7+10) using Ant 1.10.5 on Debian
Linux 10 "Buster" (ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true).

Verified that JavaFX projects can be created, run, debugged, and
profiled, with the caveat mentioned by Matthias here:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2135#issuecomment-630986886
(see "wrong FX architecture prompt" thread on this list)

Wizard the Cat says "Ship it!"
https://www.lyonlabs.org/temp/wizard-debugging.png

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Re: wrong FX architecture prompt

2020-06-01 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 6/1/20 2:44 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020, 20:14 Glenn Holmer,  wrote:
> 
>> I posted this in the voting thread (mea culpa). Can anybody reproduce
>> it? Is it a concern? Otherwise, I'll go ahead with my +1.
>>
> Yes, and no. Matthias mentioned it here. It should be just a cosmetic issue
> in that the right thing will install, but be interesting to know if you
> have a workflow that triggers it consistently?

Just as I described. I tried it again just now, and got the "JavaFX
Implementation for Windows" prompt, as Matthias reported. Interestingly,
when I used the convenience binary instead of the build from source, it
correctly said "Linux".

If Yarda says it's a "very low priority UI issue", I'll proceed with my
vote.

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wrong FX architecture prompt

2020-06-01 Thread Glenn Holmer
I posted this in the voting thread (mea culpa). Can anybody reproduce
it? Is it a concern? Otherwise, I'll go ahead with my +1.

> 1) built from source under Linux (Debian 10 "Buster")
> 2) started with fresh userdir
> 3) created a new FX project: "FXML JavaFX Maven Archetype (Gluon)"
> 
> NetBeans wants to install "JavaFX Implementation for Mac OS X" rather
> than Linux (see linked screenshot). It appears to be a cosmetic issue,
> as the new project runs, debugs, and profiles normally.
> 
> https://www.lyonlabs.org/temp/fx-mac.png

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Re: Proposed blog on malware report

2020-05-31 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/31/20 3:39 PM, Erik Costlow wrote:
> If making any comment at all, I would rewrite.

The most important thing is to get something out there and strike while
the iron's hot. This "story" has even hit Slashdot:

https://news.slashdot.org/story/20/05/30/2031219/github-warns-java-developers-of-new-malware-poisoning-netbeans-projects

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.0 [vote candidate 1]

2020-05-31 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/31/20 7:13 AM, Eric Barboni wrote:
> This is our first voting candidate for the 12.0 LTS release of Apache
> NetBeans.
> Note that this is our first release vote where you are required to check
> both sources and convenience binaries before voting!

I noticed something out of place.

1) built from source under Linux (Debian 10 "Buster")
2) started with fresh userdir
3) created a new FX project: "FXML JavaFX Maven Archetype (Gluon)"

NetBeans wants to install "JavaFX Implementation for Mac OS X" rather
than Linux (see linked screenshot). It appears to be a cosmetic issue,
as the new project runs, debugs, and profiles normally.

https://www.lyonlabs.org/temp/fx-mac.png

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NetBeans and the Octopus

2020-05-29 Thread Glenn Holmer
What's all this, then?

https://securitylab.github.com/research/octopus-scanner-malware-open-source-supply-chain

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Re: Netbeans notifications API

2020-05-18 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/18/20 3:13 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote:
>  * Yes, we are already down that road: on windows the NIO WatchService
>cause massive regressions compared to the implementation against the
>win32 API, so the switch was rolled back.

That's one of the things I was wondering. Are there other places where
NetBeans uses native code?

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Re: Netbeans notifications API

2020-05-18 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/18/20 8:15 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 13:49, Glenn Holmer  wrote:
>>
>> On 5/17/20 3:12 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 May 2020, 21:07 Glenn Holmer,  wrote:
>>>> What does it mean "native Linux notification system"? libnotify?
>>>> What does this try to achieve that can't be done in pure Java?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Show NetBeans notifications via the native OS desktop notifications.
>>
>> These are tautological answers.
> 
> Not really! ;-)

Yes, they are. We want native notifications so we can have native
notifications.

>> WHY do we want to "Show NetBeans
>> notifications via the native OS desktop notifications"?
> 
> Because some users want it and other tools do it?!

That's still not an answer. What is the use case?

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Re: Netbeans notifications API

2020-05-18 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/17/20 3:12 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2020, 21:07 Glenn Holmer,  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/17/20 4:57 AM, Hector Espert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why does it need native code?
>>>
>>> I don't understand your question. When I mean the native notification
>>> system, it is the OS notification system.
>>
>> What does it mean "native Linux notification system"? libnotify?
>> What does this try to achieve that can't be done in pure Java?
>>
> 
> Show NetBeans notifications via the native OS desktop notifications.

These are tautological answers. WHY do we want to "Show NetBeans
notifications via the native OS desktop notifications"?

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Re: Netbeans notifications API

2020-05-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/17/20 4:57 AM, Hector Espert wrote:
>>
>> Why does it need native code?
> 
> I don't understand your question. When I mean the native notification
> system, it is the OS notification system.

What does it mean "native Linux notification system"? libnotify?
What does this try to achieve that can't be done in pure Java?

> On Sat, May 16, 2020, 15:31 Glenn Holmer  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/16/20 6:26 AM, Hector Espert wrote:
>>> After the first proposal to integrate the native linux notification
>> system
>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1948, I started to work in the
>>> notifications module to expose an API.
>>>
>>> My idea is to allow to extend the notifications system and integrate it
>>> with the native notifications system via a future module or a external
>>> plugin without break the current behavior.
>>
>> Why does it need native code?

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Re: Netbeans notifications API

2020-05-16 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/16/20 6:26 AM, Hector Espert wrote:
> After the first proposal to integrate the native linux notification system
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1948, I started to work in the
> notifications module to expose an API.
> 
> My idea is to allow to extend the notifications system and integrate it
> with the native notifications system via a future module or a external
> plugin without break the current behavior.

Why does it need native code?

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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of CND code to Apache NetBeans

2020-05-15 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 5/15/20 1:29 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> a) does Apache NetBeans accept the donation of the CND code from Oracle?

+1

> b) does Apache NetBeans approve to put the code into branch "cnd" of the
> main NetBeans repository:

+1

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Re: What's the process for which PRs get included?

2020-04-15 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 4/15/20 8:37 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Was it? Would be great if it were included, maybe for the release
> candidates or a beta 4.

+1

> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 3:27 PM Ernie Rael  wrote:
> 
>> I'm inquiring because I'm surprised that a low risk PR that allows
>> javafx profiling was rejected.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-11.3 Linux Installer

2020-02-28 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/28/20 7:27 AM, Arunava Sinha wrote:
> Primary voting artifact:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.3/installers/Apache-NetBeans-11.3-bin-linux-x64.sh

> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and -1
> as usual.

+1 (binding)

Verified sha512 checksum.
Verified signature.
Installed on two Linux machines:

Debian "Buster" with KDE Plasma desktop: installed with JDK 11, it put a
menu entry under Development in the desktop menu.

Debian "Bullseye" (testing) with MATE desktop: installed with JDK 11, it
put an icon on the desktop.

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Re: archetype for javafx maven

2020-02-26 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/25/20 6:25 PM, Ernie Rael wrote:
> On 2/25/2020 3:13 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
>> On 2/25/20 4:56 PM, Ernie Rael wrote:
>>> Once it's in the local, you can use the "maven project from archetype",
>>> not sure why it needs to be in local first.
>> When I run the above command, it works; after that though, using
>> "project from archetype" doesn't have the expected changes in
>> nbactions.xml.
> 
> Is it possible you were picking up the archetypes from org.openfjx?

You are right; I chose javafx-archetype-simple instead of "Simple JavaFX
Maven Archetype". That runs and debugs out-of-box with no changes. And
there's Javadoc completion!

However it's achieved, that needs to be the way JavaFX projects work in
NetBeans.

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Re: Features page for 11.3

2020-02-26 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/26/20 3:25 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> When we release 11.3, here's the features page we'll make available with
> the highlights drawn from our Wiki:
> 
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb113/index.html
> 
> It's not completely complete and I'm adding more content continually --
> however, feedback is needed and especially if you've worked on the 11.3
> release in some way.

Looks good. Whoever sees that will want to use NetBeans for sure!

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Re: archetype for javafx maven

2020-02-25 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/25/20 4:56 PM, Ernie Rael wrote:
> Deployed to maven central; no more SNAPSHOT issue. You can now do
> 
>    mvn \
>         archetype:generate \
>         -DarchetypeGroupId=com.raelity.jfx \
>         -DarchetypeArtifactId=javafx-archetype-simple \
>         -DarchetypeVersion=0.0.1 \
>         -DgroupId=com.raelity.play.jfx.simple \
>         -DartifactId=jfx-simple \
>         -Dversion=1.0-SNAPSHOT
> 
> Once it's in the local, you can use the "maven project from archetype",
> not sure why it needs to be in local first.

When I run the above command, it works; after that though, using
"project from archetype" doesn't have the expected changes in nbactions.xml.

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Re: NetCAT test specs for 12.0

2020-02-01 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 2/1/20 10:19 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Thinking ahead a bit, as soon as 11.3 is out, we should be evaluating the
> test specs so we can start NetCAT so we can start that a month later when
> the first beta is available when the merge window closes.
> 
> Now -- the question of the moment is: which areas of NetBeans do we want to
> prioritize for NetCAT, especially which have not been tested before that we
> now find important (e.g., Gradle) and are essentially new kids on the block.

JavaFX

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Re: Check Daily builds! Serious Option Dialog issue needs confirmation!

2020-01-20 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 1/18/20 2:48 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> I'm experiencing an issue with the Options dialog. Whenever I apply the
> settings PHP the dialog disappears and PHP modules get turned on, then
> the dialog reappear.
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-3714

It's not easy to reproduce. I just saw it in a current source build
after changing colors in the terminal
(Tools/Options/Miscellaneous/Terminal). I clicked OK to confirm the
changes and dismiss the dialog, and it reappeared twice. Couldn't
reproduce it with a clean userdir.

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Re: Check Daily builds! Serious Option Dialog issue needs confirmation!

2020-01-19 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 1/19/20 8:14 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020, 14:08 Glenn Holmer,  wrote:
> 
>> On 1/18/20 2:48 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>> I'm experiencing an issue with the Options dialog. Whenever I apply the
>>> settings PHP the dialog disappears and PHP modules get turned on, then
>>> the dialog reappear.
>>
>> I've seen that as well, not related to PHP.
>>
> 
> That depends. The disappearing and reappearing when ergonomics kicks in
> seems normal. But I couldn't quite work out if this referred to non-PHP
> options causing PHP to enable?

I don't understand. How is it normal for a dialog to reappear after it's
been dismissed?

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Re: Check Daily builds! Serious Option Dialog issue needs confirmation!

2020-01-19 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 1/18/20 2:48 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> I'm experiencing an issue with the Options dialog. Whenever I apply the
> settings PHP the dialog disappears and PHP modules get turned on, then
> the dialog reappear.

I've seen that as well, not related to PHP.

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building post-11.2

2019-12-29 Thread Glenn Holmer
I haven't built from source in a while. Pulled from master, ran a clean,
then "ant -Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true". The build failed with:

-do-compile:
 [nb-javac] Compiling 40 source files to
/mnt/common/netbeans-src/netbeans/platform/o.n.bootstrap/build/classes
   [repeat] warning: [options] bootstrap class path not set in
conjunction with -source 8
   [repeat] error: warnings found and -Werror specified
   [repeat] error: warnings found and -Werror specified
   [repeat] error: warnings found and -Werror specified
   [repeat] error: warnings found and -Werror specified
   [repeat] 4 errors
   [repeat] 1 warning
  [nbmerge] Failed to build target: all-o.n.bootstrap

My JDK is:
openjdk version "11.0.5" 2019-10-15
OpenJDK Runtime Environment AdoptOpenJDK (build 11.0.5+10)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM AdoptOpenJDK (build 11.0.5+10, mixed mode)

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 Linux Installer

2019-10-26 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/25/19 10:47 AM, reema.tan...@oracle.com wrote:
> Please check that the artifact functions correctly and has been
> correctly signed by a PMC member.

+1 (binding)

Verified PGP signature and sha512sum. Installed on Debian 10 "Buster"
with KDE Plasma using both new and existing userdir; nbjavac installed
correctly with empty userdir. Overrode both default installation
directory and location of JVM during installation. Opened Java project
and verified basic functionality. Did not build from source.

An icon was not added to the KDE menu, although one was added to the
desktop.

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Re: JDK deployment support for NetBeans releases

2019-10-23 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/23/19 4:40 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> I suggest that for deployment platforms, we always specify the following:
> 
> 1. NetBeans runs on JDK 8.
> 2. NetBeans runs on the latest LTS release, i.e., currently JDK 11.
> 3. NetBeans runs on the latest current non-LTS release, i.e., currently JDK
> 13.
> 
> In other words, for Apache NetBeans 11.2, if someone complains about
> problems running on JDK 12 (or 9 or 10), we should say "JDK 12 (or 9 or 10)
> is not the current non-LTS nor LTS release -- please use either JDK 8, 11,
> or 13."
> 
> The deployment platforms sections of the download pages I have updated
> accordingly:
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb111/nb111.html
> 
> Comments and hopefully mainly agreement is welcome.

Totally agree. If you're not on an LTS (or 8), you should be on the latest.

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Re: c/c++ module ?

2019-10-22 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/22/19 1:02 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> We’ve just signed the document and handed it over to Apache, so the C/C++
> donation is complete (took a lot of work) but it depends on something else
> that is still in process of donation, therefore it is probably better to
> wait for that part (dlight) to be donated rather than putting something
> into our GitHub that won’t build. So there’s a lot of progress but even
> more needed.

What is it "dlight"?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 [vote candidate 1]

2019-10-20 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/20/19 7:26 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> This is our first voting candidate for the 11.2 release of Apache
> NetBeans. Note that this is our first release vote where you are
> required to check both sources and convenience binaries before voting!
> See requirements below.

+1 (binding)

Downloaded both source and convenience binary, verified PGP signatures
and sha512 sums of both.

Verified no jar files in source except for files mentioned.

Built from source using JDK 11.0.4 with ant arguments
-Dpermit.jdk9.builds=true and -Dcluster.config=full.

Ran with "ant tryme" as well as nbbuild/netbeans/bin/netbeans.

Also ran convenience binary. For both: opened a Java project, nb-javac
installed correctly. Ran with clean and imported userdirs.

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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.2-beta3 is Available for Testing!

2019-10-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/17/19 4:45 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> And your JDK and Linux distro?

openjdk version "13" 2019-09-17
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 13+33)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 13+33, mixed mode, sharing)

PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)"

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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.2-beta3 is Available for Testing!

2019-10-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/17/19 4:35 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
>>> -J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on

> It's much less subtle than that (see attachment: without on the left,
> with on the right).

Oh, attachment went to bit bucket. See it here:

https://www.lyonlabs.org/temp/without-with.png

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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.2-beta3 is Available for Testing!

2019-10-17 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/17/19 12:59 AM, reema.tan...@oracle.com wrote:
> Latest build passed after correcting JDK config,
> 
> Beta3 based Linux and Windows installers:
> 
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/NetBeans/job/netbeans-installers/

First time I've tried an installer in quite a while; it worked correctly
under JDK 13. Properly added a NetBeans icon to the KDE menu when run on
Debian "Buster".

However, I find that I still need to add

-J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on

to make fonts look good in NetBeans (even under JDK 13). What would be
the correct incantation to start the installer that way as well?

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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.2-beta3 is Available for Testing!

2019-10-16 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/16/19 5:41 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> I'd like to announce that the third beta build for Apache NetBeans
> 11.2 from the release112 branch is available for download.

Please remind us where to find the installers (e.g. Linux) for this beta
if we'd like to test them?

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Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of core DukeScript presenters to Apache NetBeans html4j

2019-10-03 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 10/3/19 6:25 AM, Eric Barboni wrote:
> Dukescript (in the person of Toni Epple) is proposing to donate "core
> DukeScript presenters" to the Apache NetBeans subproject html4j.
> 
> This vote is to determine if the Apache NetBeans PMC is in favor of
> accepting this donation. 

+1

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