[slim] Re: Transporter!
azinck3 Wrote: You could ebay it...they fetch a good price. Or give it to someone to evangelize the Squeezebox. oh trust me, i have already done my part as an evangelist! =) -- WSLam WSLam SB3 | Unidisk 1.1 - EMM Labs DCC2 - Acoustic Reality eAR1001 Revel Ultima Salon 'Photo of my Setup' (http://photos.lam.ws/Hobbies/170951) WSLam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=830 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 24/96 support and Transporter
I have to agree with FL here, if the high end DACs in the transporter could be used for other components (via digital input) this would be a killer app. for audiophiles I think. It would go a long way to justify the ticket price...because you'd be getting an awesome music player and awesome DAC as well. Just a thought/ alex -- ajmitchell ajmitchell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.3.0: Many Duplicate Albums Listed (as well as duped New Music, Album Art, etc)
fairyliquidizer Wrote: This issue may not trouble you but I like to keep my tags as slim a possible and would rather it was fixed sooner and 6.5 took longer. Especially as changing my tags will trigger my incremental backup to add a new increment which will be rather large as I have a large FLAC collection. Yup, I had nearly 100 flac compilation disks disks to update. As I backup to another set of disks I just did the main music set and the backup at the same time, thus avoiding a large overnight backup across my network. The whole tagging process took less than 5 minutes. Unfortunately Slimserver then took two hours to scan the changed files, but then that happened in the small hours. The pain was so mininmal it was non-existent. Probably took me longer to write this forum message. I don't fully understand why you would want to keep your tags as Slim as possible. There doesn't seem to be a downside to increased number of tags. Replaygain, a non-standard tag, is almost indispensable. I also find adding reviews and bios into the comment field a great way to read info about the band/album on my Squeezebox as I am listening to an album in the lounge. Anyway, each to their own I guess. I hope Slim fix the issue for you soon. MC. -- ModelCitizen Squeezebox2 Benchmark Dac1 Naim NAC 82 Naim NAP 250 Shahinian Arcs. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25070 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter!
UK pricing Dean? And will it be available in the UK on the launch date? Oh, and do we get a free SB3 too? -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Transporter!
UK pricing Dean? Isn't this 1USD = 1UKP :-) I expect the exchange rate for CHF at least 1:1.5 :-( -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
I'm running the latest 6.3.1 on Linux. Still broken. I haven't had this working since I retired my old server 18 months ago. That was running on an ancient version that honoured operating system specification of hidden files (dot prefix) and the database would not index cue-sheeted mp3 files that were named with a dot prefix. Is there any chance we can go back to simple funcitonality like that? It worked. It was simple. It was logical. What business might SlimServer possibly have indexing hidden files? For me, this is all to do with gapless playback. The only reason i have any cue sheets is to get gapless. I now have a legacy of very high quality mp3 rips (Lame preset extreme/EAC) with cuesheets. The answer is the difference between retranscoding and a feature that should either work or at least show stable behaviour from version to version. It strikes me that the development hasn't pinned down exactly what certain functions are for. FWIW, 6.3.1 does play my cuesheet files; it does honour symlinks in my mp3 library. This is a good build. I'm just petrified that the next build will break these things. -- Mr SA Mr SA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: I am also very interested in seeing how this flies with the high-end community. I think this could be the machine that pushes computer audio into the audiophile mainstream Me too, but I think those displays are a mistake. Many audiophiles dislike anything other than audio amplification consuming power. I never have visualisations on and I turn off the display a lot of the time simply because they are distracting. When this thing gets a serious review, there will be comments about the sound with the displays on and off. I would have preferred to see no display or a small one and a much better remote with a display, it's more practical, if a little harder to accomplish from the SB3 starting point. I have to say, I'm not keen on the design, it's too fussy with loads of buttons that will never get used. I have Copland gear that is clean looking and functional and I wish it had been more like that. Overall though I applaud Slim for the product - it's what the market needs and a good move. I hope the server software is vastly improved too. Paul -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
I echo similar concerns. While it looks very slick, the multiple buttons and screen dominating the front makes this look less serious than a typical high end device. Coming from the Naim school of thought.. CardinalFang Wrote: Me too, but I think those displays are a mistake. Many audiophiles dislike anything other than audio amplification consuming power. I never have visualisations on and I turn off the display a lot of the time simply because they are distracting. When this thing gets a serious review, there will be comments about the sound with the displays on and off. I would have preferred to see no display or a small one and a much better remote with a display, it's more practical, if a little harder to accomplish from the SB3 starting point. I have to say, I'm not keen on the design, it's too fussy with loads of buttons that will never get used. I have Copland gear that is clean looking and functional and I wish it had been more like that. Overall though I applaud Slim for the product - it's what the market needs and a good move. I hope the server software is vastly improved too. Paul -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
Very good. When is it going to be reviewed by Stereophile? :) I'm starting saving money... no ice cream for me anymore... Interesting, if I'd connect it and SB3 to the same outboard DAC, how much difference in SQ should I expect? Beyond the new features, how different the digital section in them? -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Thecus N5200 - fastest NAS available
So, what do you guys think about Thecus N5200? Review say it blows everything around out of the water performance wise. Can it be made running SlimServer? -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25784 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter!
dean Wrote: It'll still cost $1999, though. -dean In that case I'll order off the web, take the complimentary SB3 and 1. List it on eBay 2. ?? 3. Profit! -- el payo el payo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
agentsmith Wrote: I echo similar concerns. While it looks very slick, the multiple buttons and screen dominating the front makes this look less serious than a typical high end device. Also, I really wish that there was a transport-only option. The price point is fair for what's inside, but a lot of that is unnecessary clutter and stuff that will never get used in my view - I don't need a DAC, two displays, a fancy wheel and all those buttons, what I was hoping for was a clean looking transport with a graphical remote. I think it will have a tough time against an SB3 plus a $1500 DAC. OK, so you can use the Transport DAC for other inputs, but audiophiles will most likely already have a DAC at this price point. Thinking about it some more, I'm really disappointed. I'm in the minority I know, but right now, my money would go on a Sonos with a Benchmark or Musical Fidelity DAC for the same price. Paul -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thecus N5200 - fastest NAS available
So, what do you guys think about Thecus N5200? Just another NAS device. x86 CPU based machines have been around in this market long before NAS devices entered our homes. They're just getting back to the roots. Review say it blows everything around out of the water performance wise. What review? If they compare to a Linkstation - ok :-) Can it be made running SlimServer? Sooner or later it will, I'm pretty sure. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
awetmore Wrote: I like the form factor and the front panel buttons and knob. I don't need the three power supplies, gold plated circuit board, and other audiophile features. I wish there was a $400 version that looked roughly like this with a knob and buttons and a single display. Agreed, thats exactly what i want, maybe with a transformer coupled BNC for spdif and analogue supplies. One last thing would be to supply that lovely new rotary switch as a geekport device for the SB3 -- Grumpy_Git Grumpy_Git's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
CardinalFang Wrote: Also, I really wish that there was a transport-only option. The price point is fair for what's inside, but a lot of that is unnecessary clutter and stuff that will never get used in my view - I don't need a DAC, two displays, a fancy wheel and all those buttons, what I was hoping for was a clean looking transport with a graphical remote. I think it will have a tough time against an SB3 plus a $1500 DAC. OK, so you can use the Transport DAC for other inputs, but audiophiles will most likely already have a DAC at this price point. Thinking about it some more, I'm really disappointed. I'm in the minority I know, but right now, my money would go on a Sonos with a Benchmark or Musical Fidelity DAC for the same price. Paul I don't understand what you mean when you say transport-only option. Surely if you don't need a DAC then a squeezebox IS that option. This product is a serious DAC with a squeezebox built in. As for the whole Sonos thing I don't get the appeal there at all. How does that work if there's more that one person in your house wanting to listen to different music in different rooms? You have to buy several remotes at £319 each or wait and take it in turns? How's the jitter from the Sonos' digital out compared to the '35ps at S/PDIF receiver' quoted for this device? Anyway back to the I'm really disappointed, what were you hoping for for in this new product? -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SLimserver hangs Mac System prefs, shutdown process
Thanks for above: it turns out it was a conflict with a driver for a Keyspan networked USB print server: removing that seems to have fixed everything. Thanks - STeve -- SteveWong SteveWong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25732 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update
Thanks for doing the weather plugin Paul, it's just what I was after! -- TonyCharman TonyCharman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4886 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20393 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5212396.stm -- cbemoore cbemoore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter!
UK price is going to be £1299 inc VAT contact me directly for pre-orders. Paul Fifer Wrote: UK pricing Dean? And will it be available in the UK on the launch date? Oh, and do we get a free SB3 too? -- ultra238a Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd ultra238a's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Form factor
Yup, just saw that on the homepage. All I want now is a cut down version of the Transporter - doesn't need the uber-DAC cos I can just plug it into the Arcam AV amp and use the DAC in that (which is pretty amazing). Perhaps with slightly toned down styling... although that unit would look great in my kit rack! -- Squirrel Squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5785 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 24/96 support and Transporter
seanadams Wrote: This is a hardware/firmware thing, not SlimServer. It's not that it can't be done on SB3, but it would be a separate engineering effort due to different hardware in Transporter to facilitate higher sample rates. Can you clarify Sean - if I have music ripped at 24/96 on my server, I will be able to stream it to my Transporter but not to my SB3? How will this work for multi-room setups? It's not really an option to put a Transporter in every location. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
I think it's an exciting development and I'm seriously considering whether I can justify it or not (a lot depends on the UK pricing). I have to confess to being a wee bit disappointed that the pre-order promo appears to be firmly targeted at new customers only, as most existing customers are more likely to be thinking of selling a previous model rather than acquiring yet another. I've still got a SB1 and my current SB2 and I certainly don't need a SB3 and a transporter to go with them. I totally understand why SD would want to target new customers, but some alternative promotion for those of us who already have SB2s or SB3s wouldn't go amiss surely? When can we expect to see the transporter reviewed? Have any review models gone out yet? -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Softsqueeze 2.8 / squeezeslave 0.6
rtitmuss Wrote: Jon, I have had a quick look at the trace and so far it appears to be a problem with the flac decoder. Do you also get this problem playing other formats, or just flac? Thanks, Richard Richard, I have only one mp3 album, but SoftSqueeze played it all the way through (10 tracks) without incident. The only thing I noticed was that memory usage slowly climbed during playback from about 46K to 62K, but then suddenly in the middle of track 9, it dropped to 15K. By the end of track 10, it was up to about 38K. CPU usage remained stable throughout, generally a between 3 and 6%. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25438 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter!
Paul, does the free SB3 offer apply in the UK? -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5212396.stm ...but they didn't get Patrick's name right :-) -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter!
Yes, when ordered directly from us. Fifer Wrote: Paul, I'm glad to see the UK pricing aligned with the US pricing. Does the free SB3 offer apply in the UK? -- ultra238a Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd ultra238a's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 'New Music' format
Fantastic! Thanks very much :) -- Khuli http://www.last.fm/user/khuli Khuli's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25761 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
I noticed that, but for a mainstream news report, they didn't do too badly on the detail. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
CardinalFang Wrote: Also, I really wish that there was a transport-only option. If you don't need the on-board DAC I doubt you will see a signnificant benefit that will justify the outlay - no doubt someone will eventually do a high end SB3 +DAC vs Transporter comparison...maybe me in 6 months or so! I was hoping for was a clean looking transport with a graphical remote. Agreed a graphic remote would be great, but as SONOS already offer this I suppose its easier for slimdevices to look to aftermarket solutions...although admittedly this will always be a compromise. I think it will have a tough time against an SB3 plus a $1500 DAC. I am sure your right, and this is exactly what I am thinking about right now (although the Music Fideilty DAC is a cool $4000!]: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=123933 OK, so you can use the Transport DAC for other inputs Are you sure about this? Lets wait for confirmation The other big issue (already mentioned) is how does it integrate into multi-room with Sb3 etc. If there is no problem here (as I suspect) then bundling the Sb3 for free is a nice sweetener IMHO Alex -- ajmitchell ajmitchell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
Ahem: The $1,999 (£1,079) player Oh really? James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
Did you do the Are you happy with the audio quality of MP3 files? vote. The non audiophile yes voters are winning with 57.82%. -- amrace amrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
ajmitchell Wrote: Are you sure about this? Lets wait for confirmation Alex I think it says it here http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html at the end of the paragraph 'Astounding Analog'... In addition, Transporter's digital inputs allow its built-in DAC to be used with other sources. -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
rickwookie Wrote: I don't understand what you mean when you say transport-only option. Surely if you don't need a DAC then a squeezebox IS that option. This product is a serious DAC with a squeezebox built in. Yes, but the SB3 form factor isn't right for me and it doesn't have a linear PSU or professional socketry. I wanted an Audiophile SB3, not a DAC with a squeezebox thrown in. I already have a very good DAC - and it doesn't have all those displays and buttons I don't need and don't want to pay for. rickwookie Wrote: As for the whole Sonos thing I don't get the appeal there at all. How does that work if there's more that one person in your house wanting to listen to different music in different rooms? You have to buy several remotes at £319 each or wait and take it in turns? How's the jitter from the Sonos' digital out compared to the '35ps at S/PDIF receiver' quoted for this device? No, just the one remote, but I can read it from my sofa and it displays album art, plus it isn't in the same box as the audio components and therefore potentially affecting audio quality. You can argue whether it does or not, but if there was no display in the transporter and instead it was on a remote, then it definitely wouldn't be degrading audio. If you think you can hear that sort of difference in jitter, then congratulations. It's a lot lower than most highly regarded kit out there and I suspect only a handful of people could reliably detect it. I have no idea what the Sonos jitter is, but I am a Slim customer right now - I have a modded SB2 feeding a Musical Fidelity DAC. rickwookie Wrote: Anyway back to the I'm really disappointed, what were you hoping for for in this new product? As I said a clean-looking, uncluttered standard sized audio component with a graphical remote control. The transport would not have a DAC, but would have high grade power supplies, components and socketry. With it I'd want a Sonos-like remote so I can browse music from where I'm sitting without needing binoculars. I guess I'm no longer in line with where Slim are heading. That's fine, most of you are and the best of luck to Slim, I just don't like this new component. To my mind the aesthetics and features are wrong for the audiophile community. Paul -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
The $1,999 (£1,079) player Oh really? That's the writers exchange rate calculation. Paul announced it at UKP1299, I think. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
The $1,999 (£1,079) player Oh really? That's the writers exchange rate calculation. Paul announced it at UKP1299, I think. My point exactly! Although adding 17.5% UK VAT means this is a pretty good deal as electronics go... James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
CardinalFang Wrote: it isn't in the same box as the audio components and therefore potentially affecting audio quality. You can argue whether it does or not, but if there was no display in the transporter and instead it was on a remote, then it definitely wouldn't be degrading audio. I think they've probably gone out of their way to ensure that there is no noise from the display CardinalFang Wrote: If you think you can hear that sort of difference in jitter, then congratulations. It's a lot lower than most highly regarded kit out there and I suspect only a handful of people could reliably detect it. I have no idea what the Sonos jitter is, but I am a Slim customer right now - I have a modded SB2 feeding a Musical Fidelity DAC. Erm, that was my point. There's no way anyone on earth could hear that jitter. I was suggesting therefore that there wasn't possibly going to be any better digital output to any DAC from the Sonos' digital out. But since this was not your reason for prefering a Sonos / High-end DAC combo, more the asthetics / graphic remote, then I guess it's moot. Since all the circuitry is in effect there in the transporter to achieve the device that you want, and I would imagine exceed performance expectations, I would be surprised if Slim didn't bring an in-between device out that would fit the bill. Surely it would just be a case of 'stripping-out' the bits that you don't need. -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
mherger Wrote: The $1,999 (£1,079) player Oh really? That's the writers exchange rate calculation. Paul announced it at UKP1299, I think. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) £1079 plus VAT (17.5%) is not a million miles from £1299. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Backlit Remote
Kudos to slim on the new product... looks great and I am sure it sounds great.. bit out of my current price bracket.. but I think it is a testament to Slim for their commitment to listening to customers and looking to cater to their needs.. the number of posts I have read about high end products, rack mount designs is evidence of them listening so about the remote I agree that a sonos style remote woould be a great add on (even as separate purchase) and I have read a number of recent posts from other users commenting on same and that they are disappointed not to see this as a new feature. that said.. I do like the way the new transporter remote looks and the added backlit display could be a nice asthetic feature... Can Slim please post more pics of the new Transporter remote so we can all take a closer look... also will the new remote work with an SB3? and if so can it be purchased separately? -- rick's cafe WHEN MUSIC HIT YOU YOU FEEL NO PAIN!!! rick's cafe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Thecus N5200 - fastest NAS available
No, that's the point - it seems to be significantly better then any other NAS. I'm not talking about DIY PC with Gb, RAID, and bunch of HDDs. This is a commercially available device, a little expensive, and if what they talk about it is true - it's first I would really consider to buy. BTW - the only serious drawback of ReadyNAS I was thoroughly looking at, was its slowness... -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25784 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
amrace Wrote: Did you do the Are you happy with the audio quality of MP3 files? vote. The non audiophile yes voters are winning with 57.82%. I must be one of those non-audiophiles then because my squeezebox digital output into my Proceed AVP and NAIM 82/180/SBLs rocks. Without getting silly with hugely esoteric CD playback rigs, this setup is easily comparable with my audiophile £1500 CD player. It is only the jitter of the digital connection that is unassessed in this solution. Back to back comparison of WAV, mp3 and FLAC don't produce conclusive damnation of the mp3 format. -- Mr SA Mr SA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
rickwookie Wrote: I think they've probably gone out of their way to ensure that there is no noise from the display I'm sure they have, but the audiophile community is pretty picky about stuff like that and you have to convince them that 2 displays are a good move in a high-end player. Be ready for reviewers who are convinced it sounds better with them turned off, after all these guys have $200 power cords. rickwookie Wrote: Since all the circuitry is in effect there in the transporter to achieve the device that you want, and I would imagine exceed performance expectations, I would be surprised if Slim didn't bring an in-between device out that would fit the bill. Surely it would just be a case of 'stripping-out' the bits that you don't need. I hope they do, this one has just got too much in it that is irrelevant to the sound quality and merely makes it more expensive. Paul -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hmmm....2nd thoughts on buying SB3
I read these forums before deciding to buy, and I'm really glad that I did. The troubles that you read on here are no worse than you find on any wireless networking forum and given the number of computer / operating system / router types and combinations it seems logical that some sytems may take a little morre setting up than others. All that I can offer in my experiance is that people reccomended me not to use Belkin and to use a router instead of a peer to peer adapter. I used a Belkin adapter on a peer to peer network to the SB3 and have had no difficulties whatsoever. I bought a 20m network cable at the time 'just in case' and it still lies in it's sealed package. I would say that even if I had had difficulties with the setup, that the audio output quality of this device is totally worth the effort. Just do it! -- Ade_McC Ade_McC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25733 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
I'm pretty sure SD people got ready for complaints regarding the direction their design is heading - there is no high fidelity device on earth that wouldn't produce at least some negative comments. That's just perfectly normal. I'm not interested in built-in DAC either, unless it confirmed to match Lavry DA-10 level - and it's not necessarily any worse, we'll see. However I'm not going to reject the device just because they put there something I personally don't need. I consider SD to be pioneers in that area, and kudos to them for that. Re: jitter. You don't have to have golder ear to hear that. If it's higher then some ns (not ps) it can alter sound so everybody would note it. However it doesn't have to - depends also on the spectrum. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
I love my various SB's and with some effort, have gotten a reasonable WAF. But the one factor that continues to be a problem is the display. As good as it is, (especially compared to other devices), it can't show long album/track names without scrolling. Yes, I know you can shrink the font, but then distance readability goes to hades quick. In classical music especially, many albums have the same starting words. Even now, you have to do a lot of scrolling to even pick out the right album and that factor more than anything has prevented me from making the SB's the centerpiece of my whole house system. When I saw the transporter, the first thing that struck me was - great! - one huge display that could easily display any album/track title known to man, at a highly readable font size. If you wanted VU meters (let's be honest - how many audiphiles will give a damn about cute graphics for the music), you could use part of the display just like the SB's. At least, you could have had the display for album/track searching, then during playback, use 1/2 of it (programable would have been nice) to show any info you want incl cute graphics if that's your thing. To split it into 2 displays I think was a major mistake, and missed an incredible opportunity to allow a level of interaction with a digital music library backend that would almost have equaled a seperate PC monitor display. At the audiophile level, its trivial to run the SB3 thru a better DAC, I've been doing it for years. But only Slim can improve the display. Until it does, this device doesn't improve enough beyond what I can put together right now. -- bprager bprager's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1281 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
Congratulations - this isn't for me (theres no way I could drop that much on a player) but it's a supurb product. With the stable, fast, Slimserver (lets hope) that is promised by 6.5 this will redefine the market. I've never been a great fan of the industrial design of the squeezebox in either incarnation but this looks great. I love the curves on the case edge and whilst it wouldn't match any of my other kit it is more than any other the item to put on show. The row of identical buttons along the bottom don't suggest 'form follows function' has been the design mantra but look good. Even the remote looks a cut above (and much more of a match for the SB3 than the current model - after market upgrade anyone?)The knob is cool, the twin displays will be full configurable (a new version of music info screensaver anyone?) and can be switched off for the minimalist look. It's a lot of money but not for an audiophile product. Those connections parts and case will have cost a packet. Heres hoping for the trickle down product before too long - same case and controls, standard SB3 parts inside. 300usd ;-) I'll dream on. ... ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: AsyncHTTP errors
OK, it's been a while, but I have now successfully upgraded to the latest nightly and YES! the single-word hostname works now. Strangely, localhost no longer seemed to work but that doesn't worry me too much. -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25454 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
Simon Still Wrote: Even the remote looks a cut above (and much more of a match for the SB3 than the current model - after market upgrade anyone?) Agreed... but can the new remote work with SB3 .. would assume so.. can slim release better pics of the remote .. plus images with the backlit display on -- rick's cafe WHEN MUSIC HIT YOU YOU FEEL NO PAIN!!! rick's cafe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
ajmitchell Wrote: Are you sure about this? Lets wait for confirmation Yes, on the detailed specs page it lists inputs to the dac. Digital Outputs and Inputs Optical, coax, BNC, and XLR digital connectors Word clock input for synchronization with an external clock Linear-regulated power for all clock paths Dedicated high-precision crystal oscillators (no PLL, no resampling) Standard IEC-958 (S/PDIF) or AES/EBU encoding Optical connector: TOSLINK 660nm RCA connector: capacitor-coupled 500mVpp into 75 ohms BNC connector: transformer-coupled, 500mVpp into 75 ohms XLR connector: 4.7Vpp into 100 ohms Sample rates: 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 96kHz Audio format: linear PCM, 16 or 24 bits per sample Jitter (standard deviation): 11ps at oscillator (intrinsic jitter) 17ps at DAC 35ps at S/PDIF receiver -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Auto ratings for my songs?
Hi, I have around, I dunno, 6 thousand songs at last count mosty from ripping my CD collection, and I'd like to be able to play higher rated songs some of the time. However, I'm never going to get round to rating that many songs in this lifetime!! So, I'm looking for a way to auto-rate all my songs. I can then tweak anything I disagree with, but this would give me a good starting point. That way, I shouldn't get Nenah Cherry for example, any more when I shuffle across my whole collection, as I'll be able to choose higher rated songs (why on earth did I rip that CD anyway, it's complete crap -- seemed OK at the time) Currently I haven't rated anything, as it doesn't seem worth the effort. Help? Oooo, BTW. I guess this would have to be from a site similar to IMDB.com, but for music... if such a beastie exists. (i.e. Music library, with ratings) Steve PS. Originially posted this on an iTunes forum http://www.iprong.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11530 but thought I might get a more sensible reply here. -- sbutton sbutton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25790 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
The problem with the MP3 poll is the majority of people listen to music on stereos, walkmen, etc. Even the home hi-fi system is likely to be anything but. For goodness sake why do most people just look for the highest wattage speakers without taken into account, peak, RMS, or THD. I remeber the first time I listened to Oasis Definately Maybe on a quality stereo and it sounded awful. The productiuon on that album was aimed at bedroom stereos -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.3 on QNAP(1.2) ~ (160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP v to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.35a Artwork - Album Cover Art Downloader v1.6.0 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Thecus N5200 - fastest NAS available
No, that's the point - it seems to be significantly better then any other NAS. ...in its class, maybe. It's based on a Celeron? There are devices out there with dual (or even quad) Dual Core Xeons. I'm not talking about DIY PC with Gb, RAID, and bunch of Neither am I. I've been trying to convince people that the range of NAS devices on the market easily goes from a hundred to the hundred thousand [put your currency unit in here :-)]. I'm still waiting for my 15x400GB/Xeon 3GHz powered NAS I ordered a few weeks back. For the office, not for me ;-) -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
It's interesting that the track Slim picked to display in the product photography for the Transporter is one that apparently suffers from over-loud mastering. Notice the clipping left channel? :-) -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update
Now I am intrigued: There is some new Qnap product news in the next couple of weeks - I'll keep you posted. -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.3 on QNAP(1.2) ~ (160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP v to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.35a Artwork - Album Cover Art Downloader v1.6.0 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20393 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Thecus N5200 - fastest NAS available
What's your point, man? Even if you list all industrial grade servers available I won't be impressed by your knowledge, becouse I was sure it's quite clear they are out of the context. Sorry I didn't mention I'm talking about consumer grade NAS. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25784 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Backlit Remote
Another vote for the advanced remote. I like the look of the new transporter, but probably couldn't justify the price. I've got several SB's around the house, but as most of my kit is hidden away in cupboards, the Sonos seems more appropriate to me. I do like the Slim kit, though, and as I've got an investment in it already, what I'd really like is an intelligent remote (with a display) that can connect to my network (vi RF, wLAN or whatever) and allow me to remotely control all of my SB's which I can then hide along with the rest of the kit. I would have thought most of the technology is proprietary perhaps it could even be done with a Wireless PDA? -- Jig Jig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Diagrams for 'whole house audio'
I assume your keypads don't have any data feedback (playlist/artist/track) from the SB so you must be controlling this from either a PC/handheld or from the SB itself? Kyle Wrote: I have one SB in the den with the analog outputs going into my Russound whole house system and the digital (coax) driving my Marantz den receiver. -- caribbeansun caribbeansun's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox V2 or 3?
Why does it say on the display Squeezebox V2 when I have a V3 player? -- octavian octavian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25791 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
pfarrell Wrote: Not at all. It is aimed at audiophiles and they regularly spend unimaginable amounts of money. The Audiophile magazines regularly review turntables that cost $10,000, and a favorite costs $75,000. You're just not the target market. You got that I right I'm not the target market! ;-) I whole hearedly believe that a $75,000 turntable is ridiculous! Audiophiles or not, spending that kind of cash on a device like that is insane. But hey, I'm sure it'll (Transporter) sell. -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Thecus N5200 - fastest NAS available
What's your point, man? You asked So, what do you guys think about Thecus N5200? - my answer was Just another NAS device. (hey, that's just my opinion - no offence intended). To which you replied No, that's the point - it seems to be significantly better then any other NAS.. So my point is: it's just another device, in another class than Linkstation Co.: It's faster than the Linkstation, and it will cost a lot more than the Linkstation. Nothing new, really. I didn't want to be a smart ass. I just wanted to tell you why I don't think this device anything special. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox V2 or 3?
Why does it say on the display Squeezebox V2 when I have a V3 player? Because the SB3 is a diguised SB2 - they use the same firmware, have the same electronics etc. Theoretically it should display the correct player type, but it's nothing to worry about. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
Face it. We're not the target market. It hurts but it's possible to get past it. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox V2 or 3?
The underlying architecture of the SB2 and the SB3 is identical. The changes from SB2 to SB3 relate to the form of the product. See: http://faq.slimdevices.com/index.php?action=artikelcat=1id=6artlang=enhighlight=architecture or http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19415highlight=sb2+sb3+identical -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25791 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
CardinalFang Wrote: I think it will have a tough time against an SB3 plus a $1500 DAC. OK, so you can use the Transport DAC for other inputs, but audiophiles will most likely already have a DAC at this price point. Thinking about it some more, I'm really disappointed. I'm in the minority I know, but right now, my money would go on a Sonos with a Benchmark or Musical Fidelity DAC for the same price. I second that. If the price follows the SB3 trend this unit will cost around $2700-2800 here in Scandinavia. At this price it would have to beat just about every DAC out there. There are some pretty terrific ones at a much lower price. For me, this is going to be a tough sale. vH pH -- 27ph 27ph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
bprager Wrote: I love my various SB's and with some effort, have gotten a reasonable WAF. But the one factor that continues to be a problem is the display. As good as it is, (especially compared to other devices), it can't show long album/track names without scrolling. Yes, I know you can shrink the font, but then distance readability goes to hades quick. In classical music especially, many albums have the same starting words. Even now, you have to do a lot of scrolling to even pick out the right album and that factor more than anything has prevented me from making the SB's the centerpiece of my whole house system. When I saw the transporter, the first thing that struck me was - great! - one huge display that could easily display any album/track title known to man, at a highly readable font size. If you wanted VU meters (let's be honest - how many audiophiles will give a damn about cute graphics for the music), you could use part of the display just like the SB's. At least, you could have had the display for album/track searching, then during playback, use 1/2 of it (programable would have been nice) to show any info you want incl cute graphics if that's your thing. To split it into 2 displays I think was a major mistake, and missed an incredible opportunity to allow a level of interaction with a digital music library backend that would almost have equaled a seperate PC monitor display. At the audiophile level, its trivial to run the SB3 thru a better DAC, I've been doing it for years. But only Slim can improve the display. Until it does, this device doesn't improve enough beyond what I can put together right now. I think that a lot of your display concerns could be better addressed with a graphical remote. You would no longer need to be in front of the SB to read what's playing. As I mentioned before, a Wi-Fi/IR/RF SB Universal remote control would allow you to control not only the SB, but all your AV components. A color LCD on the remote would resolve the distance readibility issues of the VFD that you mentioned. With a remote with graphical interface the Classical Music naming issues go away. You can get album art, lirics or any other album/song info you can think of. Not to mention one's friends Wao! factor when they hear you sing along with Pavoratti in Italian using phonetic lirics being fed to the remote. I'd also like to get thumb wheel a la Ipod to scroll a little more naturaly throught my music library. It can also be implemented to support some of the plug-ins to allow you to create dynamic playlists, display the weather... etc, etc. I want a Wi-Fi/IR/RF SB Universal remote to be the center piece of my AV system as it would be only component that'd need to interact from anywhere I sit in my one bedroom NYC apartment. I'm sure it would make the place seem bigger than it really is... I can already see myself sitting in the room with my white throne as I build my new playlist. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Backlit Remote
I have the same requirment. I would love to wall mount a control unit that allows touchscreen entry. But a better remote would be a start -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.3 on QNAP(1.2) ~ (160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP v to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.35a Artwork - Album Cover Art Downloader v1.6.0 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Itunes Question
Are Apple ever likely to make their songs playable on a SB without having to write them onto a CD and re import them? I would be much more inclined to buy ITunes songs if they did. Apple are now talking about a lossless compression option for their purchased downloads, I wonder if they will be SB compatible? -- octavian octavian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25793 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
tamanaco Wrote: I want a Wi-Fi/IR/RF SB Universal remote to be the center piece of my AV system as it would be only component that'd need to interact from anywhere I sit in my one bedroom NYC apartment. I'm sure it would make the place seem bigger than it really is... I can already see myself sitting in the room with my white throne as I build my new playlist. Nokia 770? -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slim boombox
New product Transporter looks great for the high end. Might upgrade my SB3 to it if I can save enough money. But what about the low end. If slim took the core of the SB3, maybe downgraded some components, bolted some speakers on, enhanced clock/timer and the ability to run off batteries. Great to carry out into the garden, stick it in the kitchen or leave in the bedroom. Well, I'd buy it. Probably buy 2 or 3. Any thoughts ? -- leggm leggm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6589 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25794 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Questions for Slim
The new remote for the Transporter ... 1. Will it work with the Squeezebox? 2. Does it have a matte finish on the faceplate? -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25795 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update
ultra238a Wrote: Hi, You need to download the All-In-One Slimserver update via Opera or Firefox (IE cuts off the .gz extension) once you have this installed you can download the 6.3.1 update which just has the .tar file extension. Thanks Re the above comment from Paul, I have always downloaded the recent updates etc from Paul's update site via Internet Explorer V6 onto my C: Drive, then copy/pasted to the Qnap.and never a problem with cutting off file extensions... It must put off some users from upgrading if they think they must use Opera or Firefox Simon -- simonjedrake simonjedrake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4910 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20393 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 has Spectrum Analyzer superimposed on menu items when connect to SqueezeNetwork
Don't know what happened. It started when I was using the SB3 to select a radio station via SqueezeNetwork (SN). Suddenly the display filled with the Spectrum Analyzer (SA). The SA is only there while I'm logged into SN. It shows up behind every menu display. The only time it doesn't appear is if I select the Analogue and Digital VU meters in the screensaver. Any other screensaver will activate but the SA appears on the screen superimposed. For example, the RSS ticker is selected as the screensaver to activate when playing music. Well, it does activate but the SA appears superimposed on it. In fact, as stated earlier, the SA appears superimposed on every menu display. Note that the SB3 works fine if I'm connected to the SlimServer. It's only when I got to the SN does the SA problem appear. I've done a reset of the SB3 by connecting the power to it with the ADD button pressed on the Remote Control. Can anyone help? TIA! -- matharu matharu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25796 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Auto ratings for my songs?
http://www.allmusic.com/ has ratings (whether you agree or not is another matter). -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25790 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
dangerous_dom Wrote: I have no doubt there is a market for this, but one thing is for sure; they will really have to sort out SlimServer. I love it, but it has faults and bugs. Those bugs are annoying with the SB3, but if i had forked out $2000 (plus the other few grand for app/speakers to do it justice) i would be more than annoyed, i would be going absolutly nuts. I couldn't agree with this more. Now we know that 6.5 is going to be rock solid by September.. and why the increase in quality control personel at SDs. MC -- ModelCitizen Squeezebox2 Benchmark Dac1 Naim NAC 82 Naim NAP 250 Shahinian Arcs. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 has Spectrum Analyzer superimposed on menu items when connect to SqueezeNetwork
Don't know what happened. It started when I was using the SB3 to select a radio station via SqueezeNetwork (SN). Suddenly the display filled with the Spectrum Analyzer (SA). Hit the Now Playing button repeatedly to flip through the different display modes. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 24/96 source material?
Ok now that the transporter has been announced and supports 24/96 source material. Where are people getting music in this format. CDs are only recorded in 16/44 sure you could rip them to 24/96 FLAC but that would give you nothing. I have a few CDs that have DVD-Audio verisons on the flip side with 24/96 format music however due to the heavy DRM on DVD-A I have yet to figure out how to get that music into a useable format. SACD suffers from the same issue. So where is everyone getting this high quality audio? -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25797 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 24/96 support and Transporter
It should be straightforward to hook a transcode option into SlimServer to downsample from 96 to 48 for SB2/3 devices. -- inguz inguz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
EnochLight wrote: Am I the only one that has a major issue with this equipment costing $2000? I'm all about the new design and hardware, but... all of us knowing how much it costs to build a high-end PC from scratch, even with a quality soundcard and huge flat panel display... I feel that $2K is killing off a huge amount of potential buyers. Obviously, you're nowhere near the target market. I'm not either. I'm pretty sure SD's marketing department know what they're doing here. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter!
el payo Wrote: In that case I'll order off the web, take the complimentary SB3 and 1. List it on eBay 2. ?? 3. Profit! LOL! We have SB3 gnomes in the forum!! -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
Fifer Wrote: I noticed that, but for a mainstream news report, they didn't do too badly on the detail. Mmmm... The $1,999 (£1,079) player is aimed at people who encode music using so-called lossless formats, such as Flac or Wav. FLAC is an acronym, Free Lossless Audio Codec, and should be capitalized. Much like BBC. ;-) There are also lossless version of WMA and iTunes also includes a loss encoder for making perfect digital copies of the songs on CDs. Must mean lossless encoder. Plus, of course, they got Patrick's name wrong. BTW those who are disparaging about the cost of this device, take heart: Patrick Cosson Wrote: Lessons we have learned with this product will trickle down to our mainstream products. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update
Don't get too excited ;) but it might offer a solution for people who don't want to go for say 4x drives but may want 2x drives in their NAS box. And that is all I can say ;) Paul Paul_B Wrote: Now I am intrigued: -- ultra238a Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd ultra238a's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20393 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
CardinalFang wrote: As I said a clean-looking, uncluttered standard sized audio component with a graphical remote control. The transport would not have a DAC, but would have high grade power supplies, components and socketry. With it I'd want a Sonos-like remote so I can browse music from where I'm sitting without needing binoculars. Slim needs to come out with a snap on front plate that locks over top of the transporters front panel, hiding the displays, buttons, and the knob. All it needs is a logo painted on and an extension lens for the IR receiver. Since it's an audiophile accessory, they can charge $500 for it. :) - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Auto ratings for my songs?
allmusic.com is a useful site, thanks. Just been having a look around. I like the similar artists section, but anyh What I'm looking for is a way to Automatically populate all my ratings (at least my unrated tracks) so I can go away and tweak them at my leisure (or never :-). I don't think this would be particularly hard technically, for someone who has the time. Surely someone has done this already ? Steve -- sbutton sbutton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25790 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Auto ratings for my songs?
I think allmusic.com or amazon.com are your best bet, but I haven't seen any software that would retreive the rating information from these sites. The problem is to retreive the ratings from the web, when you have the ratings there are several tools available to set the ratings in slimserver, tagging the music or where ever you want them. Another problem is that these sites don't rate tracks they rate albums, so all tracks on an album would get the same rating. There is also http://www.last.fm, but it doesn't have ratings it have statistics about number of times a track has been listen to. Are you a developer who are ready to do some development work to retreive the ratings from these sites ? If you aren't I would suggest that you try to set the ratings manually on per artist or per album level. I am not sure exactly which tools that make this possible. I know the TrackStat plugin can do it on per album level with slimserver but with that solution you will have to click 4-5 times per album, so that might not be the optimal solution. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-trackstat) , 'SQLPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-sqlplaylist) , 'DynamicPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-dynamicplaylist) and 'RandomPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-randomplaylist) plugins) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25790 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Itunes Question
octavian wrote: Are Apple ever likely to make their songs playable on a SB without having to write them onto a CD and re import them? I would be much more inclined to buy ITunes songs if they did. Apple are now talking about a lossless compression option for their purchased downloads, I wonder if they will be SB compatible? No. The incompatibility is from the DRM, which is a core part of the ITMS business model. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 has Spectrum Analyzer superimposed on menu items when connect to SqueezeNetwork
mherger Wrote: Hit the Now Playing button repeatedly to flip through the different display modes. [/url]) Thanks for that. Is that in the manual somewhere? -- matharu matharu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25796 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 has Spectrum Analyzer superimposed on menu items when connect to SqueezeNetwork
matharu Wrote: Thanks for that. Is that in the manual somewhere? Yup - page 19. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25796 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
That article also lets slip another detail which was discussed a while ago - Slim's sales figures. The article states they have almost 50k customers, if we assume an average of 2 players per customer we get 100k players sold. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 24/96 support and Transporter
ajmitchell Wrote: I have to agree with FL here, if the high end DACs in the transporter could be used for other components (via digital input) this would be a killer app. They can, that's what the digital inputs are for :) And you don't need a network connection for them to work. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25779 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Itunes Question
google for itms drm free. If you're determined to buy and download music from ITMS you can do it without the DRM ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim boombox
On 7/25/06, leggm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New product Transporter looks great for the high end.Might upgrade my SB3 to it if I can save enough money. But what about the low end.If slim took the core of the SB3, maybe downgraded some components,bolted some speakers on, enhanced clock/timer and the ability to runoff batteries.Great to carry out into the garden, stick it in the kitchen or leave in the bedroom.Well, I'd buy it. Probably buy 2 or 3.Any thoughts ?It's been requested as often as the audiophile component has.-- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim boombox
I agree 100% with you. A high-end product is for audiophiles only and they will never be happy with it !!! On the other end, it would be really great to have a simple squeezebox with built-in amplifier and integrated speakers (and maybe an FM tuner), to move it from the bath-room to the kitchen, to the garden... I cannot say that I would buy 2 or 3 of them but 1 for sure ! -- Mathiou Do you know Viaduc: http://www.viaduc.com/invitation/00219a2skr26usth Mathiou's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4555 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25794 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Backlit Remote
On 7/25/06, Jig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I would have thought most of the technology is proprietary perhaps itcould even be done with a Wireless PDA?It can and frequently is. Search the fourm, you'll find that lots of people use wireless PDAs as remotes with the Handheld, Touch, or Nokia770 skins. -- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.3.0: Many Duplicate Albums Listed (as well as duped New Music, Album Art, etc)
Two reasons: I have had experience of programs complaining of non-standard tagging in the past and also because any change will be detected by my backup software and cause a needlessly bloated incremental backup. That said I gave up and did the tagging which took seconds I've just disabled my backup for now and will re-enable it once I actually add some more music. I still think there is something wrong when I have to manually intervene to restore functionality that was previously there. Hopefully it will be fixed soon so I don't have to remember to tag future compilations manually. Fairy -- fairyliquidizer O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! It wad frae monie a blunder free us, An' foolish notion. -Robert Burns- fairyliquidizer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25070 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Auto ratings for my songs?
All music must be enjoyed by someone so how would the rating system know if YOU liked it or not? You could if you collected mean likeability produce overall popularity - but is Britney Spears really 1000 times better than David Gray based. No that idea is that you process your.I am sure you have a couple months to spare don't you ;) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25759. Alternatively, if really had to, you could use itunes and rate everything as say 2* and then alter each song as you play it. Just an idea -- ajmitchell Last FM: http://www.last.fm/user/ajmitchell/ ajmitchell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25790 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Another Wireless Connection Problem
Equipment SB3 with firmware V55 Speedtouch wireless router 716WL Linksys Range expander WRE54G The music server has a wired connection to the router which then communicates (wirelessly) via the range expander to the SB. The problem I am experiencing is that (randomly) the connection will abruptly drop. There is no break up as I would expect for marginal signal strength. Just a a complete stop. The track will restart if the play button is pressed on the remote. The drop outs will be anything from 5mins to a day apart. No problems when used wired. Can anyone offer any advice please. -- DaveB DaveB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4755 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
radish Wrote: That article also lets slip another detail which was discussed a while ago - Slim's sales figures. The article states they have almost 50k customers, if we assume an average of 2 players per customer we get 100k players sold. I don't reckon two players per buyer is a reasonable average. I've only got one. Would love five, but can only afford one. I reckon most punters would buy one. So I'm picking the average is more like 1.1 - 1.2. Anyone taking bets on this? -- ianjohnson_nz ianjohnson_nz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1870 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - its even made BBC News this morning!
Why not $700? -- camelx camelx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1063 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Another Wireless Connection Problem
DaveB Wrote: Equipment SB3 with firmware V55 Speedtouch wireless router 716WL Linksys Range expander WRE54G The music server has a wired connection to the router which then communicates (wirelessly) via the range expander to the SB. The problem I am experiencing is that (randomly) the connection will abruptly drop. There is no break up as I would expect for marginal signal strength. Just a a complete stop. The track will restart if the play button is pressed on the remote. The drop outs will be anything from 5mins to a day apart. No problems when used wired. Can anyone offer any advice please. Is your SB a long way from the wireless router? Try putting it close and see if the problem persists. You might be at the limit of your reception area. -- ianjohnson_nz ianjohnson_nz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1870 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
Marc Sherman Wrote: Slim needs to come out with a snap on front plate that locks over top of the transporters front panel, hiding the displays, buttons, and the knob. All it needs is a logo painted on and an extension lens for the IR receiver. Since it's an audiophile accessory, they can charge $500 for it. :) - Marc I've a better idea, I'll just spend my money elsewhere :-) -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slim boombox
I agree. Awesome, beautiful, component if you can afford it, but the first hacks and PS upgrades will be out before October 1st! :-) -- Kurt SqueezeBox 2, interconnects spun by God himself suspended on 24K gold support beams placed exactly .9842 inches above the floor, driving modified Martin Logan's woven with butterfly wings. Kurt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25794 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
