Re: [slim] Duplicate albums and losing tracks from music library
Aha - this appears to be very similar to bug 5067, except it relates to a USB hard drive. The server finds the files are not present when asked to play them so removes them from the database... -- karma mechanic karma mechanic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47204 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate albums missing tracks
Michael Herger;258337 Wrote: I'm using Slimserver 6.5.1 (up to now, it's not been broke, so no need to fix it!) Please update and come back with the new results. Thanks. -- Michael I've updated to 6.5.4 without a hitch, so I'll keep an eye on things. Is it just me or is the sound a bit more detailed with 6.5.4 and the firmware upgrade? (Or am I risking opening a can of worms here?!) -- gw43 gw43's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11327 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate albums missing tracks
I'm using Slimserver 6.5.1 (up to now, it's not been broke, so no need to fix it!) You just complaint about SS being broken... Please update and come back with the new results. Thanks. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
I have my entire library showing up twice, for some reason slimserver says i have two of every album. Why is that?? -- jdulltasha jdulltasha's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
@slimpy: because i expect slimdevices to be BETTER than apple! ;-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
jdulltasha;244706 Wrote: I have my entire library showing up twice, for some reason slimserver says i have two of every album. Why is that?? No idea. You might want to give a bit more information Slimserver version, operating system, file types... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
jdulltasha;244706 Wrote: I vote for fixing this I have my entire library showing up twice, for some reason slimserver says i have two of every album. Why is that?? Does every track show up twice or are tracks split into two albums? What makes you think that this is related to dcote's issue? -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
hi! since i copied my GFs iTunes repository from her iBook - about 30. some of those show up 15x. her iTunes is organized by artist, that is just the way it is. slimpy, i am not trying to discuss who is smart or not, i am just making a point that there are a significant amount of people (heck, i didnt even start this thread, i just jumped on it!) who feel this behavior is strange. i found ~10 bugs reported in bugzilla that relate to this problem, (none of them from me, btw) so at least some people are bugged by it (no pun intended ;-). that is why i did not file a bug, but an enhancement request. and it contains a suggestion to add a control which will let you choose squeezecenter's behavior. that way you can be happy and me too! :-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;244553 Wrote: that way you can be happy and me too! :-) No, you can be happy but not me. The problem with such a setting is that it makes it even more complicated to do proper support in case of problems. I've been answering questions regarding compilations and the like for quite some time now. I can assure you that the switch to the current behaviour with less settings has made it a lot easier to explain to people how they can get their intended behaviour. dcote;244553 Wrote: since i copied my GFs iTunes repository from her iBook - about 30. some of those show up 15x. her iTunes is organized by artist, that is just the way it is. That's not that many. If you had taken the time to move all of them into their own directory this thread would have found an end a long time ago. It's a matter of maybe 30 minutes with any decent tagging software! iTunes doesn't force you into a strict organization by artist. It's not just the way it is. Why do you accept iTunes behaviour as a given but stubbornly refuse to accept slimserver's behaviour? -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
yes, i understand how, but still not why. but please bear with me! :-) ever since i imported my GF's iTunes music repository from her iBook, i have albums showing up 10 times or more!? iTune's directory schema: .\artist\album\track example: .\artist A\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist B\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist C\black soul\track.mp3 (10x) .\artist J\black soul\track.mp3 result when i browse albums: black soul black soul black soul (10x) black soul and it is THE SAME album. this makes it impossible to add the album black soul in its entirety to the playlist. surely that is not intentional? btw. snarlydwarf: we went through great pains to ensure our album tagging is 100% unique. there are NO duplicate album names in our repository. since it seems most of you seem to feel this is a feature, i will file a new feature /change request, instead of a bug report. ;-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
discovered that slimserver is working as designed: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4150 :-( filed an enhancement request at: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/votes.cgi?action=show_bugbug_id=6208 hope my request will make everyone happy - the ones who LIKE the directory idea and those who dont. ;-) anyone interested in getting this fixed/changed, please vote for it! :-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;244385 Wrote: yes, i understand how, but still not why. I'm not sure you do. dcote;244385 Wrote: but please bear with me! :-) ever since i imported my GF's iTunes music repository from her iBook, i have albums showing up 10 times or more!? iTune's directory schema: .\artist\album\track example: .\artist A\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist B\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist C\black soul\track.mp3 (10x) .\artist J\black soul\track.mp3 result when i browse albums: black soul black soul black soul (10x) black soul and it is THE SAME album. this makes it impossible to add the album black soul in its entirety to the playlist. surely that is not intentional? AFAIK even iTunes has abolished the strict artist/album/title structure when dealing with compilations and now uses for those something like compilations/album/title dcote;244385 Wrote: btw. snarlydwarf: we went through great pains to ensure our album tagging is 100% unique. there are NO duplicate album names in our repository. Most people's albums are not 100% unique. Why? Because there are different albums by different artists with the same name out there in the real world. For all those ambiguous cases slimserver cannot just rely on tags alone. Otherwise the three albums in snarlydwarf's example would appear as one. dcote;244385 Wrote: since it seems most of you seem to feel this is a feature, i will file a new feature /change request, instead of a bug report. ;-) Yeah, really smart. Handling of compilations has been discussed at least a million times in the last couple of years. A lot of people have thought about it for a very long time. The behaviour has been changed more than once. What we have today is a solution that -works for most users -doesn't need many user settings -is easy to support There are always trade-offs and you can't keep everyone happy. BTW, how many albums of yours are actually affected (appear multiple times)? -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
hi guys! why does everybody seem to think my directory structure is at fault? ;-) honestly, i think a file's location should be totally irrelevant to how often it shows up in slimserver's DB. or maybe someone could help me understand the reason why slimserver behaves that way? design? bad thinking? bug? i am considering reporting this as a bug. oddly enough, the directory structure has an impact on another topic: albumart. see: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40257 -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
Do these tracks belong to the same album? title: Girassol artist: Cidade Negra album: Acústico MTV track: 1 title: Hoje eu quero sair sóartist: Lenine album: Acústico MTV track: 2 How do you know? How would SlimServer know? Are they on the same album as this? title: No seu lugar artist: Kid Abelha album: Acústico MTV track: 3 How do you know? How would SlimServer know? And on a different note, what about these two tracks: are they on the same album or not? How do you know? How would SlimServer know? title: Maria Moita artist: Carlos Lyra album: Bossa Cuca Nova: Revisited Classics track: 1 title: Meditacaoartist: Wanda Sá album: Bossa Cuca Nova: Revisited Classics track: 2 The most obvious method of distinguishing the grouping of the above is to compare the directory. The first three, for the record, are in three different directories: they are 3 different albums. The last two are in the same directory, they are on the same album. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
hi slimpy! are you serious? hope not... ;-) what you are saying implies that any directory structure which separates tracks from one album will cause that album to show up multiple times? please confirm for me these two examples: 1. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40070 ben and i both are seeing multiple albums after integrating an itunes library organized by artist: \artist\album\track.mp3 if i understand you correctly, we have to re-organize our directory structures? if so: not nice. for me at least, it is tough work, because the filenames are incomplete and i would have to rebuild those too. 2. before i integrated itunes, my directory structure was: \music\FLAC\album.tracknumber.artist.trackname.flac \music\ogg-vorbis\album.tracknumber.artist.trackname.ogg some tracks i ripped in flac for quality, some in vorbis for space. albums with mixed formats indeed show up twice. seems to be a variation of the same problem above. -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;242858 Wrote: hi slimpy! what you are saying implies that any directory structure which separates tracks from one album will cause that album to show up multiple times? First of all I wonder why you would want to put tracks from 1 album into multiple directories. Sounds like a very weird way of structuring your tracks. But I would be surprised to that SS takes the directories into account. Have you tried/checked that all tracks have the same ALBUM and ALBUMARTIST/BAND tags ? -- Squid Squid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;242858 Wrote: are you serious? hope not... ;-) Dead serious. dcote;242858 Wrote: what you are saying implies that any directory structure which separates tracks from one album will cause that album to show up multiple times? Certainly if the tracks are by different artists (compilations). I'm not sure what the behaviour is if you have tracks from single-artist albums in different directories. Probably nobody does this deliberately anyway. You can have multi-disk albums in different directories if they have a common artist and the DISC tag is set. Renaming the files from the tags isn't that hard (if your tags are correct, that is). Any decent tagging program should be able to do this in one go. But backup first, just in case. I don't know iTunes so I can't comment on any iTunes related problems. I think I've read about albums being split when using different formats within the same album but as I only have single format albums I can't give you a definitive answer. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
Squid wrote: First of all I wonder why you would want to put tracks from 1 album into multiple directories. Sounds like a very weird way of structuring your tracks. When I rip CDs with bonus tracks, I put the bonus tracks in a subdir named Bonus. That way they're available, but they don't get in the way when I just want to listed to the original album. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
Yuo need to move all compilation tracks into the same directory. Slimserver can't just group songs with the same album name together, otherwise it would treat albums with the same name but by different artists as compilations. Easytag should be able to list your files by album. Then use the scanner function to change the file paths. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
hey kdf, thanks for the pointers over to bug database. there's one thing i think i neglected to mention in all the previous posts, however - i am using a readynas600 from infrant technology to run the slimserver program. i download a pre-compiled version of slimserver directly from infrant and upload that image to my readynas. i do not use an intervening PC to run slimserver. i only need the PC to rip and flac-encode cds. for that, i use a linux system and the shell script abcde. i do not have access to any source code, and cannot really take advantage of slimserver being an open source product. that's why i kept saying that i have no access to the source code. sorry for the oversight! i believe the best choice here is to downrev both the readynas firmware and the version of slimserver. i can go back to raidiator 2.* from the newset version (3.01*), and use slimserver 6.3.1. the raidiator version that i have already has slimserver 6.5.1 built in, and will not allow me to add on a 6.3.1 version. so, downrevving the readynas will have to come first. as someone pointed out earlier, 6.3.1 will allow for correctly-handled multiple GENRE tags, and won't force me to reorganize tens of thousands of files. thanks again for your help! i appreciate it very much. best, -sherm -- shermoid you are only young once, but you can be immature forever life is uncertain; eat dessert first - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
slimpy;144904 Wrote: Yes, you have to relocate them. There were some considerable changes in 6.5 regarding the handling of compilation albums and common album names. Slimserver now only treats albums as compilations if they have different artists and the files are in the same directory. This is only a problem for people who strictly follow the /artist/album/song structure and even split up compilation albums. I suggest you create an artist directory called Various artists and regroup your compilation albums under this entry. Another (unverified) solution you might want to try: Tag all compilation tracks with the COMPILATION=1 tag. I'm not sure if this works though as I haven't actually tried it. But telling slimserver explicitely to treat these tracks as compilation could do the trick. -s. slimpy, this is a SERIOUS problem for me if this is true. i have just upgraded to 6.5.1, and discovered that my database now has all these duplicate album titles - as others have noted, one copy of the album title in the database for each track of the compilation. the problem is i have thousands of cds already on disc, with many hundreds of compilation discs. it would be a task of monumental proportions to have to re-organize thousands of songs into different directories. the software i use automatically creates separate directories for each artist on complation albums, and this has worked under slimser 6.2.1 since i've had my readynas (about 2 years). isn't there a way to leave all these files as they are, and have slimserver work for me? why should i have to work that hard for the software? i can't imagine having to find all the component songs for each compilation disc, create a directory by hand, move all the files into that directory, and do this for hundreds and hundreds of discs - surely this is too much. is there some other suggestion besides moving hundreds of gigabytes of data around? -sherm -- shermoid you are only young once, but you can be immature forever life is uncertain; eat dessert first - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid;200982 Wrote: isn't there a way to leave all these files as they are, and have slimserver work for me? Revert to 6.3.1. would do it. Appreciate it's not ideal in terms of new functionality, but it is an option. shermoid;200982 Wrote: i can't imagine having to find all the component songs for each compilation disc, create a directory by hand, move all the files into that directory, and do this for hundreds and hundreds of discs - surely this is too much. is there some other suggestion besides moving hundreds of gigabytes of data around? There will be a number of tagging and reordering programs that can help to semi-automate this process for you. Tag and Rename will rename files to a given structure, including reordering them in a new folder structure based on tag structure (Windows only), and I'm sure other programs will do the same kind of thing. You will need to decide on the structure, then identify each of your complilation discs (i.e. scan in your whole library, order by album and then select the relevant compilations), but other than that the process would be automated. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
Siduhe;201082 Wrote: There will be a number of tagging and reordering programs that can help to semi-automate this process for you. Tag and Rename will rename files to a given structure, including reordering them in a new folder structure based on tag structure (Windows only), and I'm sure other programs will do the same kind of thing. hi siduhe, thank you very much for this usefil info and the suggestion! i use a linux system, and wonder if any of these programs you're referring to have linux version. i do not own ANYTHING that comes from microsoft. :) Siduhe;201082 Wrote: You will need to decide on the structure, then identify each of your complilation discs (i.e. scan in your whole library, order by album and then select the relevant compilations), but other than that the process would be automated. i might just re-open my original ticket with slimdevices, and seek a bug fix for the 6.2.1 version. i was happy with it until i discovered that it did not handle multiple GENRE tags correctly. and, i don't want to have to figure anything out for the software! i already have a HUGE database of music, and the software should be backwards compatible, like ALL GOOD SOFTWARE, and handle previous data. if i have to work this hard, then i will toss it right back to slimdevices, and ask them instead to fix the 6.2.1 version i have so it recognizes multiple tags. i'm the customer - they're the supplier. they work on my issues; i buy their products. that's the deal. :) appreciate your help and suggestions very much! i hope i can make some use of them ... kind regards, -sherm -- shermoid you are only young once, but you can be immature forever life is uncertain; eat dessert first - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid wrote: thank you very much for this usefil info and the suggestion! i use a linux system, and wonder if any of these programs you're referring to have linux version. i do not own ANYTHING that comes from microsoft. :) There are plenty of linux tools that can move/rename mp3 files around based on their id3 tags. Here's one: http://cbothamy.free.fr/projects/id3ren/ i might just re-open my original ticket with slimdevices, and seek a bug fix for the 6.2.1 version. i was happy with it until i discovered that it did not handle multiple GENRE tags correctly. and, i don't want to have to figure anything out for the software! i already have a HUGE database of music, and the software should be backwards compatible, like ALL GOOD SOFTWARE, and handle previous data. if i have to work this hard, then i will toss it right back to slimdevices, and ask them instead to fix the 6.2.1 version i have so it recognizes multiple tags. i'm the customer - they're the supplier. they work on my issues; i buy their products. that's the deal. :) That's not going to happen. No-one is doing any further work on the 6.2.x branch. You can stand on principle all you like, or you can take advantage of the suggestions to actually solve your problems that people are giving you -- it's your choice. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
Marc Sherman;201092 Wrote: :There are plenty of linux tools that can move/rename mp3 files around based on their id3 tags. Here's one: http://cbothamy.free.fr/projects/id3ren/ thank you marc! i will check out the page and the software once i get back home, and can download/install. :) Marc Sherman;201092 Wrote: That's not going to happen. No-one is doing any further work on the 6.2.x branch. You can stand on principle all you like, or you can take advantage of the suggestions to actually solve your problems that people are giving you -- it's your choice. well, while i appreciate what you're saying, any company that's destined to stay in business will do exactly that - they will work on legacy products if a customer demands it. how do i know? i'm a software engineer. i have re-worked decades old code upon demand, because that's what the early adopters of new technology expect. doing so keeps the customer, keeps the customer happy, and encourgaes the customer to sing your praises to others. if slimdevices refuses to re-work an old version, i can become swami sherman and predict that this company will not survive. how do i know that? i have seen it happen time and time again. if you do not support your early adopters. not only will they stop doing business with you, but they will stop encouraging others to use the products. so, it all comes down to how long slimdevices is in it for - the short run or the long run. it's not a matter of principle any more than it's a matter of good business. happy customers = continued business. unhappy customers = end of the business. since i am an engineer, i will ultimately solve the problem. the only question is how willing slimdevices is help me - especially when their earlier products worked with just one bug to fix, and by following their latest suggestions, i now have have a disabled music server. best, -sherm -- shermoid you are only young once, but you can be immature forever life is uncertain; eat dessert first - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid wrote: well, while i appreciate what you're saying, any company that's destined to stay in business will do exactly that - they will work on legacy products if a customer demands it. how do i know? i'm a software engineer. i have re-worked decades old code upon demand, because that's what the early adopters of new technology expect. doing so keeps the customer, keeps the customer happy, and encourgaes the customer to sing your praises to others. You're not the only professional software engineer here. I take it that all of your experience in the enterprise arena, where individual customers pay upwards of 6 figures for their licenses, and may not upgrade their mission-critical systems to the latest and greatest for years after it's released? Your broad statements simply do not apply to the consumer software space, much less to open source. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid;201107 Wrote: well, while i appreciate what you're saying, any company that's destined to stay in business will do exactly that Right: which is exactly why Linux is Doomed! Cause that meanie Linus doesn't fix the bugs in my 1.0.13 kernel. I don't like ELF! I am a DWARF! I want A.OUT only! Dammit, why don't they fix libc5! The whole Linux GPL is DOMED because they won't fix what I want! Ooops. Sorry. Sarcasm overload. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
snarlydwarf;201108 Wrote: Right: which is exactly why Linux is Doomed! Cause that meanie Linus doesn't fix the bugs in my 1.0.13 kernel. I don't like ELF! I am a DWARF! I want A.OUT only! Dammit, why don't they fix libc5! The whole Linux GPL is DOMED because they won't fix what I want! Ooops. Sorry. Sarcasm overload. * linux IS doomed. it will be replaced by something better someday. while it's here, however: * you can fix your own 1.0.13 kernel, as you have full access to the sourcec code. do i have full access to slimdevices source code? * you don't have to use ELF. you can invent your own binary format. you have access to the source code, and can code away to your heart's content. can i change the way slimserver accesses its database? * you'll have to check with your doctor to see what can be done about your stature. * you can generate A.OUT files all you'd like without even having to add a -o A.OUT to the cc command line. can i alter the slimserver code and make sure that compilation albums are handled correctly? * since the source is readily available, you can alter libc5 in any way you'd like to. * and yes, if enough people don't get what they want, the whole GPL scheme could be doomed. care for a victor 9000 pc, or a wang word processor? -- shermoid you are only young once, but you can be immature forever life is uncertain; eat dessert first - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid wrote: * you can fix your own 1.0.13 kernel, as you have full access to the sourcec code. do i have full access to slimdevices source code? You're kidding, right? The problems you're having don't have anything to do with the closed-source firmware. Feel free to fix the problem in slimserver yourself. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
Marc Sherman;201109 Wrote: You're not the only professional software engineer here. I take it that all of your experience in the enterprise arena, where individual customers pay upwards of 6 figures for their licenses, and may not upgrade their mission-critical systems to the latest and greatest for years after it's released? Your broad statements simply do not apply to the consumer software space, much less to open source. - Marc hey marc, i don't mean to impune anyone's abilities. i'm certain many folks here are techo-geeks in one way or another, or we wouldn't have undertaken these types of projects in the first place. my point is that a good company is responsive to customers' needs, whether they are large needs or small needs. if a customer requests something from a vendor, or has been given bad advise by a vendor, the best vendors will help the customer out, re-work old hardware or old software, and keep the customer happy. you do not need a million dollar licensing arrangement to do good business. if i had access to slimdevices' code, i'd fix the problem in my old 6.2.1 version myself! but, i do not have such access, and must ask slimdevices to make the change for me. i'm sure the actual problem (in pseudocode) is to change a line that looks like this: if ($tag == ARTIST) then process_tags(); to a line like this: if ($tag == ARTIST || GENRE) then process_tags(); pretty much, that's all i need. :-) best, -sherm -- shermoid you are only young once, but you can be immature forever life is uncertain; eat dessert first - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid wrote: if i had access to slimdevices' code, i'd fix the problem in my old 6.2.1 version myself! but, i do not have such access, and must ask slimdevices to make the change for me. i'm sure the actual problem (in pseudocode) is to change a line that looks like this: Seriously, are you not aware that slimserver is opensource software? http://svn.slimdevices.com/ - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
Quoting shermoid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if i had access to slimdevices' code, i'd fix the problem in my old 6.2.1 version myself! You do. The source code is perl, and is installed whenever you install a slimserver package. In the case of the windows installer, it is a packaged executable that runs the server, but you still have the source code. All you need to do is download ActiveState's ActivePerl and you can edit anything in C:\Program Files\slimserver\server\Slim. In the case of genre handling, it might even be as simple as grabbing the latest CPAN module for the format you are using and adding that to the CPAN folder under the slimserver installation. Then run the server using slimserver.pl, which you can make into a service using srvany or firedaemon. if you really need it as an EXE, that's a bit more effort (read: money) as that requires building the EXE using the PDK from ActiveState. The PDK is not free. Only the firmware is closed, and you will not need access to the firmware to change the processing of genre tags. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid wrote: if i had access to slimdevices' code, i'd fix the problem in my old 6.2.1 version myself! but, i do not have such access, As others have pointed out, you do, it is open source. That is why I bought my first SqueezeBox, because the Slimserver is open source. The firmware of the embedded controllers inside the SqueezeBox and Transporters is not open source, but I am not even convinced that SlimDevices wouldn't provide it under suitable terms, but, and this is a big but, embedded systems development is not the same as hacking some perl or html. You always need pricy development environments, specialized compilers, links, etc. and I believe that the embedded vendor wants a huge amount of money, say $20,000 for their development kit. Plus, embedded systems are weird, developing for them is a specialized skill. Get the perl, fix it, be happy. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
shermoid;201118 Wrote: * you don't have to use ELF. you can invent your own binary format. you have access to the source code, and can code away to your heart's content. can i change the way slimserver accesses its database? Of course you can. * you can generate A.OUT files all you'd like without even having to add a -o A.OUT to the cc command line. can i alter the slimserver code and make sure that compilation albums are handled correctly? a.out format files are not merely named a.out. -o a.out does not generate an a.out format file, it generates a file named 'a.out'. Not at all the same thing. I see you missed entirely the point: You Have Source. You claim to be running Linux and be blissfully free of Microsoft, so go to it. You can even browse SVN and backport your own changes to Genre. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
thank you to all who've offered up advise on what to do. your time and thoughts are very much appreciated. -sherm -- shermoid you are only young once, but you can be immature forever life is uncertain; eat dessert first - anonymous please visit my mcintosh website: http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~sherman shermoid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Albums
If your issue with 6.2.1 was one that was reported on bugs.slimdevices.com, you may be able to track the fix through there. More recent reports include the change number from svn that implements the fix. Older reports, you can at least get a date that it was marked fixed and look through svn.slimdevices.com for changes made at that time. In the case of multiple genres, there was a report against v6.2.2 regarding null separated ID#2.4 tags. The report includes a patch against a specific revision number so that is a good starting point: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3392 -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate albums titles from tags
jwgraves wrote: Here's the problem. When 'browsing artists' a number of albums that are not by that artist appear in the list. It seems like the SQL that populates this display should be constraining by both Album _and_ Artist. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
