RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-12 Thread Howard Darwen
why not just get Music Magic and create the playlists dynamically from one
song. it's way easier and you may even find some hidden gems in your
collection.

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wr420 Wrote:
 I'm sure this kitchen can use another cook..

 How about a send to plugin
 During the playback of any song, playlist item ect..
 Hold down some button on the remote.  A send to dialog would appear on
 the screen allowing you to choose an existing playlist to add that song
 to or option to create a new one.


As a new SB user, I'm astounded that this isn't standard behaviour. One
of the reasons for buying it was to make it easy to create a 'Party
playlist', a 'romantic playlist', a 'background music' playlist... etc
etc


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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-02 Thread Matt Alioto
 Matt
 
 On Tuesday 02 August 2005 03:23, Matt Alioto wrote:
  How about using my selection option and have the selection default
to
  the last Playlist you sent to, Or to a predefined configurable
default
  send to playlist?  Would that be more acceptable?
 
 that would make more sense.
 
  Maybe a dual function key?
  Press once fast and it automatically adds to a predefined default
send
  to playlist or the last you sent to.
  Press and hold brings up a selection option.
 
 this would work if there was a button on the remote that wasn't
currently
 being used (as you need both the single click and the press + hold
 functionality).
 
  Perhaps a plugin to disable the +/zapped function and replace it
with
  the send to function so it's a bit intuitive.
 
 that would also make sense.
 
 Q. the zapped functionality currently removes the track from the
current
 playlist.  would you envisage the plugin moving the track or copying
it to
 the new playlist?
 
 You could have something like:-
 
 - press and hold ADD brings up list of playlists defaulting to last
 selected
 playlist (which would be zapped playlist on first invocation).
 
 - use up and down to select saved playlists + zapped playlist + create
new
 playlist.
 
 - press ADD again to copy the track to the selected playlist.  If the
 selected
 playlist was zapped then move instead of copy.
 
 Would it then jump to the end of the currently auditioned track or
would
 it
 continue playing it?  My gut reaction is to continue playing because
it is
 easy to jump forwards with the FF button if you need to, but you might
 want
 to add it to several playlists (by repeating the above steps) or you
may
 be
 building playlists in a situation when other people are listening to
the
 now
 playing tunes and having it jumping around automatically would get
 annoying.
 
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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Goodinson
Also sounds a bit like the rating function available through both
WinAmp and MusicMagic.

But having said that, I wonder if gdg was talking about intro-scan (as
follows):

1.  Select intro-scan functionality on a given
album/artist/genre/existing playlist etc - this creates a new playlist
2.  A few seconds (e.g. 10) of the first song are played
3.  If track is approved by listener, listener presses some button (e.g.
play) to continue to the end of the track and keep the track in the
playlist
4.  If track is rejected by listener, listener presses some button (e.g.
fwd) which removes the track from the playlist and goes to next track
5.  If listener leaves SB running (with no intervention from remote)
then you just get 10 second bursts of each track (and a huge playlist)

So in the context of intro-scan the fwd button would have different
functionality; it would, in fact, have 2 functions combined (in this
context) - (1) skip track instead of the current fast forward and
also (2) delete currently playing track from playlist.

Does that sound about right?

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It sounds similar to the gmail starred feature:

Starred - Messages or conversations to which you've given a special
status so you can follow up on them later.

Interesting concept
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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Goodinson
Perhaps something along the lines of a Favourites list?  I'm thinking
along the lines of the flag or mark idea:

1.  Listening to whatever is on the current playlist, and hear a song
that stands out above the rest;
2.  Use some functionality on the remote to add the currently playing
track to an ad-hoc Favourites playlist;
3.  Meantime, the current playlist continues;
4.  At some point in the future, navigate to Favourites (which would
require a new menu item under the Browse Music hierarchy) to play back
your selected favourites.

For the additional functionality in the remote, how about something like
press and hold x

e.g. press and hold play or press and hold repeat to add to
Favourites playlist.

This would require a new functionality for one of the remote buttons,
plus an addition to the current Browse Music menu tree.

I have no idea about this sort of thing, so don't know how feasible it
would be to implement.  But having thought about it, it would be quite a
cool feature and one that I would probably use.

From a PC, it would then be possible to sae the Favourites as a
normal playlist
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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Craig, James (IT)
Isn't this pretty much what the 'zapped' playlist does?
You press and hold the 'add' key to move the currently playing song to
it, rather than just delete it.

I haven't used it for a while but I assume it still works? 

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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Goodinson
I've seen the zap button in the fishbone skin on the web panel - but how
do I call up the zapped playlist?

I always assumed it simply deleted the zapped tune from the playlist - I
don't know it send the tune somewhere else...  Plus I always though
pressing/holding 'add' button  just added a track to the end of the
current playlist (rather than creating a new playlist of 1 single track,
and clearing the current playlist)

Damn - this zap thing sounds pretty cool - how do I use it?

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Isn't this pretty much what the 'zapped' playlist does?
You press and hold the 'add' key to move the currently playing song to
it, rather than just delete it.

I haven't used it for a while but I assume it still works? 

James


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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Craig, James (IT)
As I recall, you need to be on the 'now playing' screen, where pressing
'add' removes the current track. 
However holding it down moves the track to a playlist called 'Zapped
Songs'.

You should then be able to browse that playlist in the usual manner 
(it won't exist if you've never zapped anything)

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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Goodinson
Cool - yep, I've just found it through the web panel.  Excellent :)

Going to have a play with it to see how it works through the remote.

Cheers!
Dan.

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As I recall, you need to be on the 'now playing' screen, where pressing
'add' removes the current track. 
However holding it down moves the track to a playlist called 'Zapped
Songs'.

You should then be able to browse that playlist in the usual manner 
(it won't exist if you've never zapped anything)

James


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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Goodinson
Question for gdg though:

James - although I get the idea of the functionality you require, I've
never seen this functionality on any CD player.  In one of your earlier
posts, you mentioned that this is a common feature of the standard CD
player...

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Cool - yep, I've just found it through the web panel.  Excellent :)

Going to have a play with it to see how it works through the remote.

Cheers!
Dan.

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As I recall, you need to be on the 'now playing' screen, where pressing
'add' removes the current track. 
However holding it down moves the track to a playlist called 'Zapped
Songs'.

You should then be able to browse that playlist in the usual manner 
(it won't exist if you've never zapped anything)

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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Goodinson
Indeed it does.  Damn.  The zap thing sounds very cool, too.  Any way
to access this functionality via the remote?

I have a hazy recollection of pressing/holding add button to add a
selected track to the end of the current playlist.  So if you've sorted
out your playlist, and are browsing other tracks with the remote, then
you can append the playlist rather than overwriting it.  I _think_
that's right, anyway.

Although would be quality to be able to zap track using the remote...

Anyone?

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If you press Add on a song that is already in the playlist, it will be
removed.

Max

gdg Wrote: 
 A delete button would also work. That way one could listen then add or

 subtract it from the playlist. (that's what you do in the computer 
 interface).


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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Craig, James (IT)
Dan,
All these actions can be done from the remote.
You just need to be in the 'now playing' playlist.

(I didn't even know there was a 'zap' button on any of the skins) 

James


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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Aaron Zinck
You can get pretty close to your flag idea if you take advantage of the
zapped songs functionality.  When playing a song in Now Playing, if you
press and hold the add button the song will be removed from Now Playing
and added to your Zapped Songs playlist.  Once you've added all the tracks
you want to add to Zapped Songs then just load up the Zapped Songs
playlist and save it as a new playlist under any name.

The only drawback is that the next time you want to do this you'll need to
go to your computer and manually clear the Zapped Songs playlist.  Or I'm
sure a plugin could be developed to accomplish that.



 I just realized that I can't even do what I'm proposing from the
 computer. When creating a playlist, as soon as I attemp to play a song
 (because I need to preview it), the list is deleted. Unfortuneatly I
 suspect there are fundamental technical issues with the creation of an
 additional que where one could store song selections (that are
 previewed in the  playlist)

 You want a suggestion? Here's a simple halfway measure that I would
 find VERY usefull.

 THE CURRENT ISSUE:
 How do you create playlists?

 THE PROBLEM:
 You have to have already decided  what you want to put in the list
 BEFORE it's created and how do you do that?
 Do you keep a pen and paper at your listening seat and note each song
 that you like while it's playing in order to create the list later? Do
 you memorize the stuff you want to playlist?
 These techniques are neither very efficient nor particularly
 intuitive.

 THE SOLUTION:
 As a halfway measure one thing I would find VERY usefull (and easy to
 implement) would  a flag button (on the remote)so that one could keep
 track of tunes that one wants to put in a playlist at a later time
 (other than when SB2 is actually playing).
 At the computer interface this flag could show up as a check mark
 beside the song track. One could  then visually search for the flagged
 songs or better yet, use a search feature to locate the flagged tunes
 . It would then be easy(er) to mix and match songs in playlists.
 *In terms of needing a new  button on the remote I believe that would
 also be an easy problem to solve:
 Just use the current add button and give it 2 user defined funtions
 flag or add (which could be toggled  in the server settings menu).

 PS
 I have done something my own version of a flag technique for years.
 On the back of the CD box I would simply check or circle (with
 permanent marker) the songs that I liked. That would facilitate the
 quick creation of a selected tracks playback list on my CDP whenever
 I cued up that CD.


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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Aaron Zinck
Ha...sorry...I didn't see this branch before I posted this same idea to the
other branch...

 Isn't this pretty much what the 'zapped' playlist does?
 You press and hold the 'add' key to move the currently playing song to
 it, rather than just delete it.

 I haven't used it for a while but I assume it still works?

 James



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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread dean blackketter


On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:57 AM, superbad wrote:



An interface proposal for the original question, a way of playing a  
song

without adding it to the playlist:

1. Press and hold Play on the remote to pause the current playlist
(if anything is playing) and play (preview) the selected song  
without

adding it to the Now Playing playlist.

2. Press Add to stop the previewed song and add it to the end of the
Now Playing playlist. Press Pause on the remote during a preview to
stop the song and jump back to whatever you were doing before the
preview.

3. Add a preview button to the web interface to do the same thing as
#1 above.

Reasonably intuitive, and not something you would happen upon without
knowing it's there (avoiding new user confusion).
One issue with new users is that they often press and hold without  
knowing it.  We need to make sure that the press-and-hold behavior is  
a superset of the press once behavior (or very similar) and doesn't  
do anything scary or unexpected.  (For example, pressing-and-holding  
ADD when browsing Now Playing removes a track, the same as one quick  
press, and then adds it to the zapped song list.)



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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread kdf


On 1-Aug-05, at 5:13 AM, Craig, James (IT) wrote:


Indeed it does.  Damn.  The zap thing sounds very cool, too.  Any way
to access this functionality via the remote?

I have a hazy recollection of pressing/holding add button to add a
selected track to the end of the current playlist.  So if you've sorted
out your playlist, and are browsing other tracks with the remote, then
you can append the playlist rather than overwriting it.  I _think_
that's right, anyway.

Although would be quality to be able to zap track using the remote...

Anyone?



yes, press and hold add will zap.


really, I'm failing to see what any of this thread has to do with 
'serious flaws'


if you want a feature enhancement, please file at: 
http://bugs.slimdevices.com


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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread ron thigpen

MeSue wrote:
dean Wrote: 


One issue with new users is that they often press and hold without
knowing it.


it's not just new users.  i experience this fairly often, mostly due to 
inconsistent UI responsiveness on the SB2.


Example:

i push a button once, nothing happens.

(this may be due to a bad button press, or the fact the the SS is taking 
something more than the usual amount of time to respond)


my immediate response, and i think that of many people, is to press 
again only harder and longer.  voila, unintentional press-and-hold. 
once the SB2 interface snaps back to life, various forms of hilarity can 
ensue.


usually the slow response is on first use of the SB2 after some amount 
of idle time.  seems to be an issue of the server having to get back to 
a more active state for this service.  (VM swap, DB connection timeout, ???)


most notable lag: firing SB2 for the first time in a couple of hours and 
going straight to 'Browse New'.   it will often just get stuck there.


will post more on this as i am able to better characterize the problem. 
 didn't really mean to start a thread on this, just reacting to the 
unintentional press-and-hold thought.


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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Auchter, Richard
It's hard to your subject line The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!
as the work of anything other than a troll.  If you want help you might try
being a little more diplomatic.

ra

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Refering to where I should be posting and what tone I should adopt to
please you:

mac Wrote: 
 Agreed on both counts.
 
 http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/5735.html

Why don't you lighten up.
I wasn't originaly trying to get a feature change. I was fishing for other
people's way of working around this issue. I still havn't found one. But I
havn't explored what a skin is yet and maybe that's where the answer lies.
I got that info here and that my friend is the purpose of the forum. As to
whether this is a flaw or lack of functionslity
or whatever you want to call it... who cares? 
I'm trying to find a way of fulfilling a basic requirement that I have as a
user. Is that OK with you?


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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Mitch Harding
No, I haven't done that.  

I was just replying to your specific point that you ...can't modify
and then overwrite an existing playlist. It must be renamed and the
previous one deleted.  :(

Which isn't true.  You can load a playlist, add or remove songs, and
then save it under the same name (overwriting the old one).  I do this
frequently.

This has nothing to do with your preview request.  I admit there is no
way to do that currently (via the remote control, anyway).  For me, I
know most of my songs well enough to not need a preview.  When I am in
the mood to audition music, I usually do it from the PC.  I have
Winamp open to preview, and then construct the playlist using the
Slimserver software.

On 8/1/05, gdg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Mitch,
 Have you tried doing this with a song that is playing? That's where I
 run into a problem. Once again, you need to know what you are going to
 add to the playlist beforehand. You can't audition and add at the same
 time. It you try and do this there  is a conflict between the  playlist
 and now playing.
 
 
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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Marc Sherman

gdg wrote:


Why don't you lighten up.
I wasn't originaly trying to get a feature change. I was fishing for
other people's way of working around this issue. I still havn't found
one. But I havn't explored what a skin is yet and maybe that's where
the answer lies. I got that info here and that my friend is the purpose
of the forum. As to whether this is a flaw or lack of functionslity
or whatever you want to call it... who cares? 
I'm trying to find a way of fulfilling a basic requirement that I have

as a user. Is that OK with you?


GDG, this is an open source community.  The people who are reading your 
message are the people who donate their free time to work on this 
software as a hobby.  If you insult them like that, they're just as 
likely to say, screw it, I've got better things to do with my time as 
they are to actually implement the (perfectly legitimate, and quite 
useful sounding) enhancement request you have.


It's frustrating to see people treat the slimserver hackers poorly; 
doubly so when the people doing it have really good feature requests 
that I'd like to see implemented, and I fear that the good idea will get 
tarred with the bad attitude.


- Marc
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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Matt Alioto

I'm sure this kitchen can use another cook..

How about a send to plugin
During the playback of any song, playlist item ect..
Hold down some button on the remote.  A send to dialog would appear on
the screen allowing you to choose an existing playlist to add that song
to or option to create a new one.

Although there is probably a feature request or a plugin already created
for this I just felt like the topic deserved another post;)
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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Alex Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 02:11, Matt Alioto wrote:
 How about a send to plugin
 During the playback of any song, playlist item ect..
 Hold down some button on the remote.  A send to dialog would appear on
 the screen allowing you to choose an existing playlist to add that song
 to or option to create a new one.

This is basically what I was suggesting in my earlier post.  However, I think 
that prompting you for the target playlist each time that you want to save a 
song would get time consuming.  Much better to define your secondary playlist 
once and then this be the target until you next change it.

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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Matt Alioto
Sorry Alex, I didn't see your post cause of the prepended subject line.
The serious flaws part was cut off.
The reason I suggested to select a playlist was I never plan on making
the playlist ahead of time.  I've got over 40,000 songs in almost every
part of the spectrum and I forget what's in there sometimes.  I just put
random tracks on sometimes not knowing what's going to come out.  I hear
a song and want to add it to a particular list.
I do agree that a selection option would get annoying if I were adding
to the same list or building a particular list for a party or something
to that extent.

Matt

 
 This is basically what I was suggesting in my earlier post.  However,
I
 think
 that prompting you for the target playlist each time that you want to
save
 a
 song would get time consuming.  Much better to define your secondary
 playlist
 once and then this be the target until you next change it.
 


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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Alex Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes
Mat

On Tuesday 02 August 2005 03:05, Matt Alioto wrote:
 Sorry Alex, I didn't see your post cause of the prepended subject line.
 The serious flaws part was cut off.

sorry - thought that I would try and make it more accurate and relevant to the 
discussion... ;-)

 The reason I suggested to select a playlist was I never plan on making
 the playlist ahead of time.  I've got over 40,000 songs in almost every
 part of the spectrum and I forget what's in there sometimes.  I just put
 random tracks on sometimes not knowing what's going to come out.  I hear
 a song and want to add it to a particular list.

 I do agree that a selection option would get annoying if I were adding
 to the same list or building a particular list for a party or something
 to that extent.

Well if this was the case then in an ideal world I would have something like 
(always assuming that the button definitions aren't already defined):-

press and hold 1..9: add current playing tune to the selected playlist in 
slots 1..9.
press and hold 0: prompt for a playlist to save current playing tune to.

Then you could set up your most common 9 playlists and rapidly classify things 
as you went along, or just drop it into your obscure playlist as and when the 
obscure track came up.

I think that these key combinations are currently handled by the Quick Access 
plugin, but there may be another combination that was appropriate (is it 
possible to detect combinations of key presses?) or run it relatively easily 
from the web interface.

snip

Alex

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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Matt Alioto

Alex
How about using my selection option and have the selection default to
the last Playlist you sent to, Or to a predefined configurable default
send to playlist?  Would that be more acceptable?
Maybe a dual function key?
Press once fast and it automatically adds to a predefined default send
to playlist or the last you sent to.  
Press and hold brings up a selection option.
Perhaps a plugin to disable the +/zapped function and replace it with
the send to function so it's a bit intuitive.

Matt


 
 Sorry Alex, I didn't see your post cause of the prepended subject
line.
 The serious flaws part was cut off.
 The reason I suggested to select a playlist was I never plan on making
 the playlist ahead of time.  I've got over 40,000 songs in almost
every
 part of the spectrum and I forget what's in there sometimes.  I just
put
 random tracks on sometimes not knowing what's going to come out.  I
hear
 a song and want to add it to a particular list.
 I do agree that a selection option would get annoying if I were adding
 to the same list or building a particular list for a party or
something
 to that extent.
 
 Matt
 
 
  This is basically what I was suggesting in my earlier post.
However,
 I
  think
  that prompting you for the target playlist each time that you want
to
 save
  a
  song would get time consuming.  Much better to define your secondary
  playlist
  once and then this be the target until you next change it.
 


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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-08-01 Thread Alex Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes
Matt

On Tuesday 02 August 2005 03:23, Matt Alioto wrote:
 How about using my selection option and have the selection default to
 the last Playlist you sent to, Or to a predefined configurable default
 send to playlist?  Would that be more acceptable?

that would make more sense.

 Maybe a dual function key?
 Press once fast and it automatically adds to a predefined default send
 to playlist or the last you sent to.
 Press and hold brings up a selection option.

this would work if there was a button on the remote that wasn't currently 
being used (as you need both the single click and the press + hold 
functionality).

 Perhaps a plugin to disable the +/zapped function and replace it with
 the send to function so it's a bit intuitive.

that would also make sense.

Q. the zapped functionality currently removes the track from the current 
playlist.  would you envisage the plugin moving the track or copying it to 
the new playlist?

You could have something like:-

- press and hold ADD brings up list of playlists defaulting to last selected 
playlist (which would be zapped playlist on first invocation).

- use up and down to select saved playlists + zapped playlist + create new 
playlist.

- press ADD again to copy the track to the selected playlist.  If the selected 
playlist was zapped then move instead of copy.

Would it then jump to the end of the currently auditioned track or would it 
continue playing it?  My gut reaction is to continue playing because it is 
easy to jump forwards with the FF button if you need to, but you might want 
to add it to several playlists (by repeating the above steps) or you may be 
building playlists in a situation when other people are listening to the now 
playing tunes and having it jumping around automatically would get annoying.

Alex

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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread Phillip Kerman
You'd have to have every
 song in your CD collection commited to memory? I certainly don't.

An interesting side effect of having the SB is that I am way closer to
really having everything memorized.  That is, before I could tell you from
which album every song was because I had just stuck in the CD.  But, now I
can tell you the track, album, and probably the year.  

Sorry if this distracts from the original thread but it's one of the first
thing I noticed happening once I really started to use my SB.

Thanks,
Phillip

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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread Josef Shvejk
It sounds similar to the gmail starred feature:Starred - Messages or conversations to which you've given a special status so you can follow up on them later.Interesting conceptOn 7/31/05, gdg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE SOLUTION: As a halfway measure one thing I would find VERY usefull (and easy to implement) woulda flag button (on the remote)so that one could keep
 track of tunes that one wants to put in a playlist at a later time (other than when SB2 is actually playing). At the computer interface this flag could show up as a check mark beside the song track. One couldthen visually search for the flagged
 songs or better yet, use a search feature to locate the flagged tunes
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