[Elecraft] k2 progress..

2007-04-09 Thread sergio


i just finished up mounting the front panel board and the controller  
board.. ran all the phase 1 tests and alignments, and everything  
checks out aok!


woo hoo!

72 de kb8qpt

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 Sound and feel

2007-04-09 Thread Brett gazdzinski
Yes, I think there is a lot going on in the modern stuff,
early stages being distorted, stuff getting through the filters,
and other sorts of distortion.

I have been into AM a long time, and fidelity there is important,
and all the modern rigs sound nasty on AM no matter what filters
they have, even with outboard audio amps.
The best sounding receivers I had were ones from the 40's,
single conversion, push pull audio output tubes.
The SX17, the Scott SLRM, they were designed to also be
hifi amps for record players...

When I did my K2 filter crystals, when grounding them, I used
thicker wire, think that helps any?
I cant detect anything getting past the filter in my K2.

Brett
N2DTS

 > There you hit the word I was looking for, "rumble".  I have 
> the narrow 
> 250 Hz filter in a 706 and a 718.  That sums up the 
> difference between 
> them in the K2.  With those filters there is more rumble, and 
> sometimes 
> the signals blow right by the filters and blast you if you have the 
> volume up.  With the filters in the K2, I find that I can use 
> the wider 
> bandwidths more than expected, and that the effects of the 
> filter on the 
> received audio is "softer".  If that makes any sense, where 
> the received 
> audio with the other units with narrow filters is harsher.
> 
> David Wilburn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> K4DGW
> K2 #5982
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Sound and feel

2007-04-09 Thread David Wilburn
There you hit the word I was looking for, "rumble".  I have the narrow 
250 Hz filter in a 706 and a 718.  That sums up the difference between 
them in the K2.  With those filters there is more rumble, and sometimes 
the signals blow right by the filters and blast you if you have the 
volume up.  With the filters in the K2, I find that I can use the wider 
bandwidths more than expected, and that the effects of the filter on the 
received audio is "softer".  If that makes any sense, where the received 
audio with the other units with narrow filters is harsher.


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982


Brett gazdzinski wrote:

I did some comparisons between my 756 pro and the K2
on 40 meters tonight, only CW, SSB always hurts my ears
so I cant say about that, plus I don't have the ssb option
added to the K2.
I used headphones, the same antenna, and tuned in strong 
and weak signals, some had very close qso's going on, and

others had ssb splatter, and lots of atmospheric noise,
static crashes, etc. I have a station control setup that allows
me to select any antenna, receiver, transmitter, etc, so
doing A/B comparisons is easy.

I got to say, I never really spent a lot of time comparing the
two radios before, but the 756 pro sounds HORRIBLE!

There was a lot of weird things coming out of the 756, much more
noise and rumble, I suspect the early stages are being
subjected to all sorts of interference, and while its filtered
out, the results still come through somehow.
Static crashes came through as massive rolling waves of rumble
and other noise. CW sometimes sounded fuzzy and weak on the
756 yet its clear on the K2.

I cant even hear the static crashes on the K2, the close in ssb 
splatter I can barely hear on the K2, and I don't hear close cw if I

narrow the filter on the K2.
I dislike narrow filters, but the 200hz filter setting I have
on the K2 sounds much better than the 400 hz 756 pro filter setting.

If I had to listen to the 756 on CW or ssb for long under conditions 
like what was on 40 tonight, I think I would rather turn it off.


I played around setting the filters up a bit when I got the K2 done, 
but did not really get critical, I just tried a few different settings, 
BFO pitches, filter widths, etc.

I did manage to get the tone to stay the same when switching between
filters, and using the spectrogram software put the bfo pitch in the 
center of the filter bandwidth.


I find it kind of amazing that the expensive in its day 756 pro 
sounds so poor.


I used to do a lot of CW on a heathkit HW7, then an HW101, listened
to CW on lots of vintage gear, and the emtech kit, and while some of it
had a lot of built in background noise, or poor filters, I don't
think it sounded as bad as the 756 pro.
Not that the copy is bad on the 756, it just seems to sound very poor.
Maybe that's something that dsp does? combined with all those
conversions?

I would venture to guess, on CW anyway, that if you find ANY rig that
sounds better than the K2 on receive, you have something wrong with your K2.

 


Brett
N2DTS


 




I'm a new used K2 owner. I have been getting use to the rig 
the last week.


In another thread this was said:


I have used Spectrogram to align the filters, and I'll be 
doing that again with a 
bit more experience. That made a significant difference in 
the "feel/sound" of 
the radio. Like you, I intend to do some more "measurement" 
in addition to just 
setting things up and starting to operate.


Compared to the FT990, a rig that I have really enjoyed for 
many reasons, the K2 
is much quieter and more flexible.



I have noticed I'm having the opposite experience. I have a 
noise floor of S9 on 
40m. With my TS-430S and the ssb filter I can listen to the 
rig all day. But 
with the K2 after a half hour or so I have to turn the sound 
down to give my 
ears a break. There seems to be so many highs in the 
background noise that it 
really gets on my nerves in a short time. This is even with 
the MFJ DSP filter 
inline after the K2.


I don't have the dead tree manuals yet, maybe later this 
week. So I haven't 
wanted to really get into checking all the adjustments until then.


The rig is dead on frequency, when replying to a cw station. 
On ssb I am told my 
transmitted signal has great audio, MC42 hand mike. Power out 
is good. So, I'm 
jumping to the conclusion that it's all set up well. What 
gives with all the 
annoying highs even when using the cw narrow filters? Only 
relief I get is when 
I turn the AF1 on.


I did use the spectrogram to move the cw center frequency 
from 500hz to 600hz. 
When I did this, I happened to set it up on the wrong side of 
the passband. A 
couple of folks got me straightened out on that. But the 
thing I remember was 
how wonderfully quiet the rig was when I was on the wrong 
side. Signals just 
popped up from the quiet and it was a pleasure to hear.


Any suggestions why I'm hearing so many highs? And how I 
might could shift 
things around to cha

RE: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

2007-04-09 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 
Thanks.
Its been a rough week.

Thanks for the link, I saw that before but did not know
how to get back to it.

Looks very sharp, I could put the amp/tuner away on the floor
out of the way, and could still use the basic K2 barefoot.

And I suppose you can change things around and put the amp
in the K2 when you wanted to...

Very flexible!

Brett
N2DTS



> 
> Hi Brett,
> 
> First, my condolences to you and your family for the recent 
> death in your
> family.
> 
> I split my kpa100 into an EC2 enclosure with the kat100 this 
> past winter. If
> you search the reflector archives, you will find lots of info 
> for doing
> this. I used the info found on Lyle Johnson's KK7P website:
> http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html.
> 
> It contains a very detailed explanation with lots of 
> pictures. Placing the
> kpa100 with the kat100 is very slick in that the RF and AUX 
> BUS connections
> are internal between the two boards. It is a very neat looking setup.
> 
> My design considerations were to allow me to remove the basic 
> K2 from my
> setup for portable ops without some of the hassle of 
> exchanging the tops
> (not that it is that much of a hassle). I also added the KB2 
> battery option
> and KAT2 to my basic K2 at the same time. Works well for me - YMMV.
> 
> 73,
> D

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[Elecraft] OT: Trade K2 for Drake TR4CW/RIT or C line

2007-04-09 Thread Fernando Quinones

Hello.

Anyone have one that they would like to trade?

I have a excellent K2 with all options except the 60m and DSP.

If yours is pristine I can sweeten the deal

with the 100w amp and 100w tuner (both unbuilt in the box), ec2..

Package worth over $1000.

email: n2fq at sbcglobal dot net.

tnx.. for the bandwidth

Fernando  N2FQ




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RE: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

2007-04-09 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 I would take one if it worked on the K2 and the 
455 kHz of the homebrew receivers.

I would use it mostly on the AM mode, those steady carriers
show up real well on a panadaptor!

I don't need anything fancy, but would want a built in
screen. A case is not important, it would be kind of cool
to build it into the receivers themselves.

A tube AM receiver with a digital readout and a panadaptor,
what a mix of old and new!

Brett
N2DTS

> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:30 AM
> To: Brett gazdzinski
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100
> 
> 
> 
> Brett gazdzinski wrote:
> > I sent an Email to Jack Smith about a Z90 panadaptor kit,
> > but there are none left.
> > That would have been just the thing to go with the homebrew 
> receivers
> > and the K2.
> >
> >
> >   
> For Brett and the list. Yes, all the Z90/91 kits are spoken for.
> 
> However, if there is enough demand, there might be a "son of Z90" kit 
> later this year, more aimed at the K2 user, with reduced price and 
> simplified functionality. It would also include an updated K2 
> IF buffer 
> output board, perhaps slightly reduced in size via more components on 
> the bottom.
> 
> Whether this happens will depend on expressions of interest. I have a 
> two simple projects to wrap up to show at Dayton (the Z1502 
> TDR adapter 
> and, of more interest to the K2 community, the Z100 LED Tuning Bar CW 
> and RTTY tuning aid, currently undergoing beta testing).
> 
> So, if enough K2'ers want a panadapter I'll work on the new 
> edition. Way 
> too early for detailed information, other than it will likely 
> have one 
> selectivity position, around 2 KHz BW and will scan 500 KHz 
> at max and 
> perhaps 50 KHz at minimum. It will not have the signal 
> generator output 
> and will be capable of working with perhaps 2 IF frequencies, 
> and those 
> IF frequencies will be determined by a combination of hardware and 
> software, i.e., no DDS in this model, as a cost-reduction feature. 
> 
> It will have software similar to the Z90-Control version 2.0, 
> including 
> "point and shoot" tuning for K2 transceivers. I would like to 
> package it 
> in a case similar in styling to the K2, but that's a real price point 
> problem for the small volume I anticipate.
> 
> If you want to see this happen, send me a message expressing your 
> interest in purchasing such a kit, assuming a reasonable price. And, 
> tell me how important it is to you to (a) have an LCD display versus 
> computer-only and (b) would you be willing to pay an extra $75 for a 
> K2-styled enclosure. (This also limits the size of the LCD, 
> but that's 
> probably necessary in the first place for reduced price design.)
> 
> 
> 
> Jack K8ZOA
> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
> 

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 Sound and feel

2007-04-09 Thread Brett gazdzinski
I did some comparisons between my 756 pro and the K2
on 40 meters tonight, only CW, SSB always hurts my ears
so I cant say about that, plus I don't have the ssb option
added to the K2.
I used headphones, the same antenna, and tuned in strong 
and weak signals, some had very close qso's going on, and
others had ssb splatter, and lots of atmospheric noise,
static crashes, etc. I have a station control setup that allows
me to select any antenna, receiver, transmitter, etc, so
doing A/B comparisons is easy.

I got to say, I never really spent a lot of time comparing the
two radios before, but the 756 pro sounds HORRIBLE!

There was a lot of weird things coming out of the 756, much more
noise and rumble, I suspect the early stages are being
subjected to all sorts of interference, and while its filtered
out, the results still come through somehow.
Static crashes came through as massive rolling waves of rumble
and other noise. CW sometimes sounded fuzzy and weak on the
756 yet its clear on the K2.

I cant even hear the static crashes on the K2, the close in ssb 
splatter I can barely hear on the K2, and I don't hear close cw if I
narrow the filter on the K2.
I dislike narrow filters, but the 200hz filter setting I have
on the K2 sounds much better than the 400 hz 756 pro filter setting.

If I had to listen to the 756 on CW or ssb for long under conditions 
like what was on 40 tonight, I think I would rather turn it off.

I played around setting the filters up a bit when I got the K2 done, 
but did not really get critical, I just tried a few different settings, 
BFO pitches, filter widths, etc.
I did manage to get the tone to stay the same when switching between
filters, and using the spectrogram software put the bfo pitch in the 
center of the filter bandwidth.

I find it kind of amazing that the expensive in its day 756 pro 
sounds so poor.

I used to do a lot of CW on a heathkit HW7, then an HW101, listened
to CW on lots of vintage gear, and the emtech kit, and while some of it
had a lot of built in background noise, or poor filters, I don't
think it sounded as bad as the 756 pro.
Not that the copy is bad on the 756, it just seems to sound very poor.
Maybe that's something that dsp does? combined with all those
conversions?

I would venture to guess, on CW anyway, that if you find ANY rig that
sounds better than the K2 on receive, you have something wrong with your K2.

 

Brett
N2DTS


 



> 
> I'm a new used K2 owner. I have been getting use to the rig 
> the last week.
> 
> In another thread this was said:
> 
> 
> I have used Spectrogram to align the filters, and I'll be 
> doing that again with a 
> bit more experience. That made a significant difference in 
> the "feel/sound" of 
> the radio. Like you, I intend to do some more "measurement" 
> in addition to just 
> setting things up and starting to operate.
> 
> Compared to the FT990, a rig that I have really enjoyed for 
> many reasons, the K2 
> is much quieter and more flexible.
> 
> 
> I have noticed I'm having the opposite experience. I have a 
> noise floor of S9 on 
> 40m. With my TS-430S and the ssb filter I can listen to the 
> rig all day. But 
> with the K2 after a half hour or so I have to turn the sound 
> down to give my 
> ears a break. There seems to be so many highs in the 
> background noise that it 
> really gets on my nerves in a short time. This is even with 
> the MFJ DSP filter 
> inline after the K2.
> 
> I don't have the dead tree manuals yet, maybe later this 
> week. So I haven't 
> wanted to really get into checking all the adjustments until then.
> 
> The rig is dead on frequency, when replying to a cw station. 
> On ssb I am told my 
> transmitted signal has great audio, MC42 hand mike. Power out 
> is good. So, I'm 
> jumping to the conclusion that it's all set up well. What 
> gives with all the 
> annoying highs even when using the cw narrow filters? Only 
> relief I get is when 
> I turn the AF1 on.
> 
> I did use the spectrogram to move the cw center frequency 
> from 500hz to 600hz. 
> When I did this, I happened to set it up on the wrong side of 
> the passband. A 
> couple of folks got me straightened out on that. But the 
> thing I remember was 
> how wonderfully quiet the rig was when I was on the wrong 
> side. Signals just 
> popped up from the quiet and it was a pleasure to hear.
> 
> Any suggestions why I'm hearing so many highs? And how I 
> might could shift 
> things around to change it when I get the manuals.
> 
> TIA
> -- 
> GB & 73's
> KA5OAI
> Sam Morgan
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[Elecraft] April NAQCC Sprint

2007-04-09 Thread Larry Makoski
This Tuesday evening, the North American QRP CW Club will be holding its 
monthly sprint.


Here are the particulars:

Date and time:
Wednesday April 11th, 0030-0230 UTC
(Remember that's Tuesday evening here in the USA)  That's  8:30 - 10:30 
EDT, 7:30 - 9:30 CDT, 6:30 - 8:30 MDT and 5:30 - 7:30 PDT.


Bands - Frequencies:
80M - 3555-3565 kHz (Be courteous to FISTS operating on 3558 kHz)
40M - 7039-7050 kHz (Avoid W1AW on 7047.5 kHz).
20M - 14059-14065 kHz. General:
A particular station may be worked once on each band. Operate CW only.
All licensed amateurs are invited to participate, but only those 
operating QRP (5 watts or less) are eligible for awards.


Call: CQ NA

Exchange:
RST - SPC (State Province or Country) - NAQCC Nr.
(non-Members substitute power level for NAQCC Nr., e.g. 5W, 1W, etc. Be 
sure to add the W.)


QSO Points:
QSO with a Member, 2 points.
QSO with a Non-member, 1 point.

Multipliers:
Each USA state
Each VE province
Each country except W/VE
All multipliers count only once in the contest.

Bonus:
If you use only a straight key for the entire sprint, multiply your 
score by 2.

If you use only a bug for the entire sprint, multiply your score by 1.5.
If you key with anything other than a straight key or bug, there is no 
bonus multiplier.


Categories:
SWA - simple wire antennas - for those using a simple wire antenna per 
NAQCC definition.

GAIN - gain antennas - for those using other than a simple wire antenna.

Special Award:
For the one making the most 40 Meter QSOs.

Entry Deadline:
All entries must be RECEIVED before 2400Z on April 17, 2007. So submit 
as soon as possible, especially regular mail entries.


For further information, please visit:  
http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel//sprintrules.html

To join the NAQCC, please visit: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel//joinup.html

73 de Larry W2LJ
NAQCC #35

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[Elecraft] K2 Sound and feel

2007-04-09 Thread Sam Morgan

I'm a new used K2 owner. I have been getting use to the rig the last week.

In another thread this was said:


I have used Spectogram to align the filters, and I'll be doing that again with a 
bit more experience. That made a significant difference in the "feel/sound" of 
the radio. Like you, I intend to do some more "measurement" in addition to just 
setting things up and starting to operate.


Compared to the FT990, a rig that I have really enjoyed for many reasons, the K2 
is much quieter and more flexible.



I have noticed I'm having the opposite experience. I have a noise floor of S9 on 
40m. With my TS-430S and the ssb filter I can listen to the rig all day. But 
with the K2 after a half hour or so I have to turn the sound down to give my 
ears a break. There seems to be so many highs in the background noise that it 
really gets on my nerves in a short time. This is even with the MFJ DSP filter 
inline after the K2.


I don't have the dead tree manuals yet, maybe later this week. So I haven't 
wanted to really get into checking all the adjustments until then.


The rig is dead on frequency, when replying to a cw station. On ssb I am told my 
transmitted signal has great audio, MC42 hand mike. Power out is good. So, I'm 
jumping to the conclusion that it's all set up well. What gives with all the 
annoying highs even when using the cw narrow filters? Only relief I get is when 
I turn the AF1 on.


I did use the spectrogram to move the cw center frequency from 500hz to 600hz. 
When I did this, I happened to set it up on the wrong side of the passband. A 
couple of folks got me straightened out on that. But the thing I remember was 
how wonderfully quiet the rig was when I was on the wrong side. Signals just 
popped up from the quiet and it was a pleasure to hear.


Any suggestions why I'm hearing so many highs? And how I might could shift 
things around to change it when I get the manuals.


TIA
--
GB & 73's
KA5OAI
Sam Morgan
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and CW

2007-04-09 Thread Robert G. Strickland

Scott...

I echo previous comments and add a few...

With CW experience, in-the-brain filtering really does develop. It does 
take time, but just as assuredly, it does develop.


I have an FT990 with a 250cps filter that I used pretty much all the time. 
Got use to it. That said, there were still times when adjacent signals 
messed everything up. So, I'm thinking selectivity tends to be as 
subjective as a graph makes it look objective.


I have my K2 #5957 CW filters set for SSB/2.2kc, 800cps, 400cps & 150cps. I 
also have the DSP unit, and I have set those CW filters at BandPass, 
500cps, 250cps & 100cps. I've tried most combinations of these two filter 
sets, but like you, I'm still getting a feel for the radio. That said, 
there's enough selectivity in that combination to narrow things down to the 
point that I sometimes open it up just to make sure the radio is still on .


I have used Spectogram to align the filters, and I'll be doing that again 
with a bit more experience. That made a significant difference in the 
"feel/sound" of the radio. Like you, I intend to do some more "measurement" 
in addition to just setting things up and starting to operate.


Compared to the FT990, a rig that I have really enjoyed for many reasons, 
the K2 is much quieter and more flexible. The FT990 is now on the floor and 
the K2 is at the operating position. At the end of the day, it's a hobby 
and it's about having fun - and providing a service to the emergency 
community. I'm having more "fun" with the K2 than at any point in my 
hamming experience to date. I'm now working a fair amount of QRP "because 
it's there." I do have the 100w amp, and the tube amp is ready when needed. 
So, the K2 has given me a wider hamming experience and for that I'm grateful.


...robert

At 08:46 04/09/2007 -0400, David Wilburn wrote:
I have an 718 with the 250 Hz filter.  That filter locks down things quite 
well, but it also allows "blow by" with large nearby signals that make 
things difficult also. In the short time I have been a CW op, the skill 
that Ron mentions is just starting to get to me.  I have often been 
frustrated by other ops nearby.  That is part of what drove me to the K2, 
was the many choices of filters.


I agree with Scott, in the since, that I am seeking a way to make that 
last filter have more isolation capability without further attenuating the 
signal.  Now that I have a little bit better idea what is going on with 
Spectrogram, after I have all the pieces finished, I plan on making 
another pass with that while sending some tones through and seeing what 
kind of tweaking I can accomplish.


Scott, have you put your K2 through the Spectrogram alignments yet?  I was 
not terribly impressed with the filters after the default settings were 
installed, but I was amazed after (several tries) I gave the filters a 
good alignment with Spectrogram.


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

I can't speak about the 718 or the Elecraft DSP, but in my experience such
"brick wall" filtering creates far more problems than solutions. A huge
amount of unwanted stuff is produced by signals on the sharp edges of such a
filter that appear throughout the passband - much of it is that 'noise' you
mention.
I work 99% CW and my K2 is seldom set for less than 1.0 kHz bandwidth. My
minimum is 0.4 kHz used only when I get a "loudmouth" shouting from almost
on top of the signal I'm copying. That occasionally happens during a
contest, but that's about it.
I do have a skill that a great many experienced CW ops have that might be
the difference. We can copy easily with several signals within the passband.
It's like listening to one voice in a crowded party; we just "tune out" the
other babble going on around us unless it's something we want to follow. It
only gets difficult if one nut starts shouting in my ear when I'm trying to
listen to someone else, Hi!
Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
Hello
I haven't had my K2 (# 5846 ) long enought to fully understand all the
different settings that are possible with it , so I have a question. My CW
filter setting are FL-1 1.50, FL-2 0.70, FL-3 0.40, and FL-4 is 0.10. 
Even FL-4 is no where near as effective as the 250 hz crystal

filter in my Icom 718. When I turn on the 250 hz filter in the Icom, it's
like building a wall right on each side of the signal that I am listening
to. Nothing else is heard except noise and signals that are exactly on the
same frequency. Is this kind of selectivity possible with the K2? If I
installed the DSP option would that help? And if so, what would the filter
settngs need to be? The only options I presently have are the 160 meter
option, noise blanker, serial adapter, ssb option, and the KPA100. Thanks
Scott N5SM
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1AT problem - its alive! KX1 # 1043

2007-04-09 Thread Paul Brice-Stevens

Hi Don,

The unseated KX1 Microprocessor was the problem...I checked the 
continuity between 2 & 17 on KX1 U1 and it was a short...tried 
re-seating the Microprocessor and viola!...all OK...I shall put a bit of 
a con-conductive bolster on top of the chip to ensure it is pushed home 
when the board is put back in the case...making sure it doesn't unseat 
itself again.


Thanks for all your help.

73/72 Paul G0WAT

Don Wilhelm wrote:

Paul,

The most likely problem is that you have a soldering problem or that 
the KX1 microprocessor is not fully seated in its socket or perhaps 
you have a pin bent out/under and is not inserted in the socket.  
Examine closely again.


As for the soldering paths, make some continuity checks - take the KX1 
out of its case and plug the KXAT1 into its headers.  Check from KX1 
U1 pin 2 to KX1 U1 pin 17, check from KX1 U1 pin 6 to KXAT1 U1 pin 13.
Then apply power and check for 6 volts to ground at KXAT1 U1 pins 4 
and 14.


It is possible that you have a firmware chip either in the KX1 or the 
KXAT1 which has a faulty output or input pin, but the best way to 
confirm that fact is to substitute a new firmware chip.  Make the 
checks above first to see if you can find a faulty path.


73,
Don W3FPR

Paul Brice-Stevens wrote:

Hi,

I have built a KX1 with the 30m option al installed and its working 
fine.


I then built the KX1 ATU and it appeared to go together OK and on the 
first install it worked and the KX1 recognized it and I started to 
play around with the various settings...then when I next switched it 
on it gives the '---' message and won't recognize the ATU.


I have checked as per the Troubleshooting guide: -



- Connectors seems OK
- U1 appears insttaled OK
- No idea how to check whether U1 is defective...

So any ideas what and how to check next?

73 Paul G0WAT
KX1  #1043
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[Elecraft] panadaptor

2007-04-09 Thread Robert Johansen
I read about the possibility of a new Clifton Laboratories design "Son of
the Z90" Panadaptor dedicated to the K2.  I think that this a good idea
that will prove to be successful. I am interested in a unit with a built
in display. The $75  machined K2 enclosure option seems reasonable. 
 
73,
 
Bob Johansen WB2SRF
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[Elecraft] WTB: K1 in Europe

2007-04-09 Thread Per Brix
Hello,

I am looking for a well buildt K1. Please email me off list.

Vy 73's de oz5abo, Per
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[Elecraft] K2 sold

2007-04-09 Thread bob

Thanks de RC kc5wa
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[Elecraft] KNB2

2007-04-09 Thread David N.
I Gang
I bought the KNB2 noise blanker last week for my K2 so
I can go mobile. My truck has a little bit of ignition
noise from time to time. Well I Got it built installed
it
put in the truck and well I don't see any difference. 
I drug out my ft 100d which is going to have to go
back to the factory for transmit problem and the noise
blanker took out the noise ok. So What did I screw
up.. or is there some value I need to change for my
particular noise...
Thanks 
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Re: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

2007-04-09 Thread David Wilburn
Additionally, I believe all the Elecraft documentation (for the KPA100 
and the KAT100) now cover mounting these in the second enclosure.


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982


Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:

Hi Brett,

First, my condolences to you and your family for the recent death in your
family.

I split my kpa100 into an EC2 enclosure with the kat100 this past winter. If
you search the reflector archives, you will find lots of info for doing
this. I used the info found on Lyle Johnson's KK7P website:
http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html.

It contains a very detailed explanation with lots of pictures. Placing the
kpa100 with the kat100 is very slick in that the RF and AUX BUS connections
are internal between the two boards. It is a very neat looking setup.

My design considerations were to allow me to remove the basic K2 from my
setup for portable ops without some of the hassle of exchanging the tops
(not that it is that much of a hassle). I also added the KB2 battery option
and KAT2 to my basic K2 at the same time. Works well for me - YMMV.

73,
Dave W8FGU


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett gazdzinski
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:17 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

I just placed the order for the 100 watt amp.
I figured if I want to rag chew on CW I might need more then
the 12 to 14 watts of basic K2.

Besides, the Elecraft stuff is so fun to build!

Despite being sick all week and having a death in the family,
I have been speeding up my CW copy, with only numbers and
really poor sending being a problem now.

I sent an Email to Jack Smith about a Z90 panadaptor kit,
but there are none left.
That would have been just the thing to go with the homebrew receivers
and the K2.

Has anyone built the kpa100 and the high power auto ant tuner
into a standalone remote package?
Is that possible?

Thanks for any info,
Brett
N2DTS





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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and CW

2007-04-09 Thread David Wilburn
Based on the emails I have been getting, I apparently didn't state this 
well.  I am VERY happy with the level of filtering that I have been 
getting from the K2 in CW mode.  The ability to turn the AGC off and 
drill down with the filters has been a great improvement over the 718.


That being said, the next time I put the system on spectrogram, I am 
going to have a couple more tools available that I didn't have the first 
time around, and one of things I am going to be looking at is making the 
last two filters a little more narrow.  I hope to do this without 
greatly attenuating the signal.  Neither of these statements is meant to 
be a disparaging remark, merely a statement of what I hope to 
accomplish.  One of the reasons I chose this rig, was because I can 
tailor the filters as I see fit.


I played with the SSB on 80m the other night, and didn't get the level 
of rejection of adjacent signal interference that I would have liked. 
That being said, I have NOT put the rig back on Spectrogram since 
setting up the SSB board.  So my first assumption was that I have not 
done my due diligence, not any deficiencies with the rig.


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982


David Wilburn wrote:
I have an 718 with the 250 Hz filter.  That filter locks down things 
quite well, but it also allows "blow by" with large nearby signals that 
make things difficult also. In the short time I have been a CW op, the 
skill that Ron mentions is just starting to get to me.  I have often 
been frustrated by other ops nearby.  That is part of what drove me to 
the K2, was the many choices of filters.


I agree with Scott, in the since, that I am seeking a way to make that 
last filter have more isolation capability without further attenuating 
the signal.  Now that I have a little bit better idea what is going on 
with Spectrogram, after I have all the pieces finished, I plan on making 
another pass with that while sending some tones through and seeing what 
kind of tweaking I can accomplish.


Scott, have you put your K2 through the Spectrogram alignments yet?  I 
was not terribly impressed with the filters after the default settings 
were installed, but I was amazed after (several tries) I gave the 
filters a good alignment with Spectrogram.


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
I can't speak about the 718 or the Elecraft DSP, but in my experience 
such

"brick wall" filtering creates far more problems than solutions. A huge
amount of unwanted stuff is produced by signals on the sharp edges of 
such a
filter that appear throughout the passband - much of it is that 
'noise' you

mention.
I work 99% CW and my K2 is seldom set for less than 1.0 kHz bandwidth. My
minimum is 0.4 kHz used only when I get a "loudmouth" shouting from 
almost

on top of the signal I'm copying. That occasionally happens during a
contest, but that's about it.
I do have a skill that a great many experienced CW ops have that might be
the difference. We can copy easily with several signals within the 
passband.
It's like listening to one voice in a crowded party; we just "tune 
out" the
other babble going on around us unless it's something we want to 
follow. It
only gets difficult if one nut starts shouting in my ear when I'm 
trying to

listen to someone else, Hi!
Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

Hello
I haven't had my K2 (# 5846 ) long enought to fully understand all the
different settings that are possible with it , so I have a question. 
My CW
filter setting are FL-1 1.50, FL-2 0.70, FL-3 0.40, and FL-4 is 0.10. 
Even FL-4 is no where near as effective as the 250 hz crystal

filter in my Icom 718. When I turn on the 250 hz filter in the Icom, it's
like building a wall right on each side of the signal that I am listening
to. Nothing else is heard except noise and signals that are exactly on 
the

same frequency. Is this kind of selectivity possible with the K2? If I
installed the DSP option would that help? And if so, what would the 
filter

settngs need to be? The only options I presently have are the 160 meter
option, noise blanker, serial adapter, ssb option, and the KPA100. Thanks
Scott N5SM

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Re: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

2007-04-09 Thread Ken Allen
Hi Jack,

I'm definitely interested in the K2 version panadapter.  How about designing it 
to fit in the Elecraft EC2 case and selling the boards & components and let the 
buyer do the packaging.  Shouldn't be a big deal for a kit builder to put a few 
holes in a case to mount the controls and connectors.  No built in display 
needed if you can use a pc as the display.

Keep us posted.  See you in Dayton.

Ken, KB8KE
K2 #5534

- Original Message 
From: Jack Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brett gazdzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 10:29:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100


Brett gazdzinski wrote:
> I sent an Email to Jack Smith about a Z90 panadaptor kit,
> but there are none left.
> That would have been just the thing to go with the homebrew receivers
> and the K2.
>
>
>   
For Brett and the list. Yes, all the Z90/91 kits are spoken for.

However, if there is enough demand, there might be a "son of Z90" kit 
later this year, more aimed at the K2 user, with reduced price and 
simplified functionality. It would also include an updated K2 IF buffer 
output board, perhaps slightly reduced in size via more components on 
the bottom.

Whether this happens will depend on expressions of interest. I have a 
two simple projects to wrap up to show at Dayton (the Z1502 TDR adapter 
and, of more interest to the K2 community, the Z100 LED Tuning Bar CW 
and RTTY tuning aid, currently undergoing beta testing).

So, if enough K2'ers want a panadapter I'll work on the new edition. Way 
too early for detailed information, other than it will likely have one 
selectivity position, around 2 KHz BW and will scan 500 KHz at max and 
perhaps 50 KHz at minimum. It will not have the signal generator output 
and will be capable of working with perhaps 2 IF frequencies, and those 
IF frequencies will be determined by a combination of hardware and 
software, i.e., no DDS in this model, as a cost-reduction feature. 

It will have software similar to the Z90-Control version 2.0, including 
"point and shoot" tuning for K2 transceivers. I would like to package it 
in a case similar in styling to the K2, but that's a real price point 
problem for the small volume I anticipate.

If you want to see this happen, send me a message expressing your 
interest in purchasing such a kit, assuming a reasonable price. And, 
tell me how important it is to you to (a) have an LCD display versus 
computer-only and (b) would you be willing to pay an extra $75 for a 
K2-styled enclosure. (This also limits the size of the LCD, but that's 
probably necessary in the first place for reduced price design.)



Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com
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[Elecraft] K2

2007-04-09 Thread bob

Still available
I offer for sale my K2 #5804 (kit price $629) with KAT2 ($169)and the 
Bencher RJ-1 ($105) that I use for a firm price of $650 (MSRP $903).USPS 
MO preferred. Please respond off list.

RC kc5wa
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[Elecraft] RE: KX1 & K2

2007-04-09 Thread bob

KX1 has been sold. Thanks to all who responded
RC kc5wa
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RE: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

2007-04-09 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hi Brett,

First, my condolences to you and your family for the recent death in your
family.

I split my kpa100 into an EC2 enclosure with the kat100 this past winter. If
you search the reflector archives, you will find lots of info for doing
this. I used the info found on Lyle Johnson's KK7P website:
http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html.

It contains a very detailed explanation with lots of pictures. Placing the
kpa100 with the kat100 is very slick in that the RF and AUX BUS connections
are internal between the two boards. It is a very neat looking setup.

My design considerations were to allow me to remove the basic K2 from my
setup for portable ops without some of the hassle of exchanging the tops
(not that it is that much of a hassle). I also added the KB2 battery option
and KAT2 to my basic K2 at the same time. Works well for me - YMMV.

73,
Dave W8FGU

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett gazdzinski
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:17 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100
> 
> I just placed the order for the 100 watt amp.
> I figured if I want to rag chew on CW I might need more then
> the 12 to 14 watts of basic K2.
> 
> Besides, the Elecraft stuff is so fun to build!
> 
> Despite being sick all week and having a death in the family,
> I have been speeding up my CW copy, with only numbers and
> really poor sending being a problem now.
> 
> I sent an Email to Jack Smith about a Z90 panadaptor kit,
> but there are none left.
> That would have been just the thing to go with the homebrew receivers
> and the K2.
> 
> Has anyone built the kpa100 and the high power auto ant tuner
> into a standalone remote package?
> Is that possible?
> 
> Thanks for any info,
> Brett
> N2DTS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?

2007-04-09 Thread ub5_073_oleg
Doug, Jim, Tom,
thanks for resolving my doubts!


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Battery Voltage Readout Question - Blinking

2007-04-09 Thread ron

Ralph Tyrrell wrote:
 
Mike, let me correct my statement, you are correct.

Looked at the ATTN LED in a darker darkend room and
YES it is there.
73, Ty, W1TF, K1 #1423

  


"darker dark end room"?

Is this a newer new grammar?? :-)

sorry Ty, I couldn't resist ...

Ron, wb1hga
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Re: [Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

2007-04-09 Thread Jack Smith



Brett gazdzinski wrote:

I sent an Email to Jack Smith about a Z90 panadaptor kit,
but there are none left.
That would have been just the thing to go with the homebrew receivers
and the K2.


  

For Brett and the list. Yes, all the Z90/91 kits are spoken for.

However, if there is enough demand, there might be a "son of Z90" kit 
later this year, more aimed at the K2 user, with reduced price and 
simplified functionality. It would also include an updated K2 IF buffer 
output board, perhaps slightly reduced in size via more components on 
the bottom.


Whether this happens will depend on expressions of interest. I have a 
two simple projects to wrap up to show at Dayton (the Z1502 TDR adapter 
and, of more interest to the K2 community, the Z100 LED Tuning Bar CW 
and RTTY tuning aid, currently undergoing beta testing).


So, if enough K2'ers want a panadapter I'll work on the new edition. Way 
too early for detailed information, other than it will likely have one 
selectivity position, around 2 KHz BW and will scan 500 KHz at max and 
perhaps 50 KHz at minimum. It will not have the signal generator output 
and will be capable of working with perhaps 2 IF frequencies, and those 
IF frequencies will be determined by a combination of hardware and 
software, i.e., no DDS in this model, as a cost-reduction feature. 

It will have software similar to the Z90-Control version 2.0, including 
"point and shoot" tuning for K2 transceivers. I would like to package it 
in a case similar in styling to the K2, but that's a real price point 
problem for the small volume I anticipate.


If you want to see this happen, send me a message expressing your 
interest in purchasing such a kit, assuming a reasonable price. And, 
tell me how important it is to you to (a) have an LCD display versus 
computer-only and (b) would you be willing to pay an extra $75 for a 
K2-styled enclosure. (This also limits the size of the LCD, but that's 
probably necessary in the first place for reduced price design.)




Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Battery Voltage Readout Question - Blinking

2007-04-09 Thread Ralph Tyrrell
 
> I guarantee that it does.  But *only* while the LCD
> is displaying the battery voltage.
> 
> Mike / KK5F

Mike, let me correct my statement, you are correct.
Looked at the ATTN LED in a darker darkend room and
YES it is there.
73, Ty, W1TF, K1 #1423




 

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Re: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?

2007-04-09 Thread Fred Jensen

David Wilburn wrote:
Do the kits come with everything to make a Y cable 


Yes

Be sure to read [and understand] the warnings about the IO connector. 
It is **NOT** a standard RS-232 serial port!


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Re: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?

2007-04-09 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave and all,

OK, the way it works is:  The KPA100 (or KIO2) comes with a cable and 2 
connectors  (and backshells) to build the cable to connect to the 
computer.  The KAT100 kit contains a length of cable and one connector 
to go onto the KAT100 end.


The pins for the cable to the computer are different than the pins used 
between the KPA100 and the KAT100 (this is NOT an "RS232 cable" - the K2 
is marked 'AUX I/O' and it means just that, DO NOT PLUG AN RS232 SERIAL 
CABLE ONTO THE K2).


If you have both kits, you can build both ends of the cable at the same 
time - see the illustration in the KAT100 manual for the entire cable 
assembly.


73,
Don W3FPR


David Wilburn wrote:
Do the kits come with everything to make a Y cable or do you need to 
order extra?


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982


Gerard Provoost wrote:
No, not true. From the plug in the AUX port in the KPA100 come two 
cables, one to your computer serial port and one as control to the KAT 
100.


73 de Gerard PA1GP

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Subject: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?



I'm thinking about purchasing KPA100 and KAT100 for my K2.

Is the following true? KAT100 occupies AUX port of KPA100
and makes controlling K2 from PC (MixW etc) impossible.


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[Elecraft] ordered the kpa100

2007-04-09 Thread Brett gazdzinski
I just placed the order for the 100 watt amp.
I figured if I want to rag chew on CW I might need more then 
the 12 to 14 watts of basic K2.

Besides, the Elecraft stuff is so fun to build!

Despite being sick all week and having a death in the family, 
I have been speeding up my CW copy, with only numbers and
really poor sending being a problem now.

I sent an Email to Jack Smith about a Z90 panadaptor kit,
but there are none left.
That would have been just the thing to go with the homebrew receivers
and the K2.

Has anyone built the kpa100 and the high power auto ant tuner
into a standalone remote package?
Is that possible?

Thanks for any info,
Brett
N2DTS



 

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 and CW

2007-04-09 Thread Darwin, Keith
I did a head to head comparison between my K2 and a near-mint TS-830s.
The 830s had dual 500 Hz factory filters (one in each IF) plus VBT to
narrow things even further.  The K2 is a late model unit and I put in 2
ground connections on each Xtal in the filter (per instructions).

I found the K2 to be better at ultimate rejection than the loaded 830s.
I also found the K2 to be a tad narrower than the 830s, even with the
830s VBT narrowed down.  The 830s just didn't have the steep skirts nor
ultimate rejection.

My testing was done during a big CW contest when there were lots (lots!)
of strong signals on the band.  K2 won over a well respected rig.

I find it really hard to believe that a starter rig (718) would have
better filter performance.  May be so, but you'd have to prove it to me.
Makes me think the K2 isn't quite right yet.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
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[Elecraft] FS: K2 & KX1

2007-04-09 Thread bob

Circumstances dictate what we do in life.
Circumstances DICTATE that I offer for sale my K2 #5804 (kit price $629) 
with KAT2 ($169)and the Bencher RJ-1 ($105) that I use for a firm price 
of $650 (MSRP $903).USPS MO preferred.
Also my KX1 #1727 ($299) with 30m mod ($29) KXAT ($89) with an American 
Morse KK1 key ($30) for a firm price of $300 (MSRP $447) USPS MO 
preferred. Before placing them on that other place I offer them here first.

Please contact off list
72/71 de RC kc5wa
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Re: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?

2007-04-09 Thread David Wilburn
Do the kits come with everything to make a Y cable or do you need to 
order extra?


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982


Gerard Provoost wrote:
No, not true. From the plug in the AUX port in the KPA100 come two 
cables, one to your computer serial port and one as control to the KAT 100.


73 de Gerard PA1GP

- Original Message - From: "ub5_073_oleg" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?



I'm thinking about purchasing KPA100 and KAT100 for my K2.

Is the following true? KAT100 occupies AUX port of KPA100
and makes controlling K2 from PC (MixW etc) impossible.


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and CW

2007-04-09 Thread David Wilburn
I have an 718 with the 250 Hz filter.  That filter locks down things 
quite well, but it also allows "blow by" with large nearby signals that 
make things difficult also. In the short time I have been a CW op, the 
skill that Ron mentions is just starting to get to me.  I have often 
been frustrated by other ops nearby.  That is part of what drove me to 
the K2, was the many choices of filters.


I agree with Scott, in the since, that I am seeking a way to make that 
last filter have more isolation capability without further attenuating 
the signal.  Now that I have a little bit better idea what is going on 
with Spectrogram, after I have all the pieces finished, I plan on making 
another pass with that while sending some tones through and seeing what 
kind of tweaking I can accomplish.


Scott, have you put your K2 through the Spectrogram alignments yet?  I 
was not terribly impressed with the filters after the default settings 
were installed, but I was amazed after (several tries) I gave the 
filters a good alignment with Spectrogram.


David Wilburn
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K4DGW
K2 #5982


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

I can't speak about the 718 or the Elecraft DSP, but in my experience such
"brick wall" filtering creates far more problems than solutions. A huge
amount of unwanted stuff is produced by signals on the sharp edges of such a
filter that appear throughout the passband - much of it is that 'noise' you
mention. 


I work 99% CW and my K2 is seldom set for less than 1.0 kHz bandwidth. My
minimum is 0.4 kHz used only when I get a "loudmouth" shouting from almost
on top of the signal I'm copying. That occasionally happens during a
contest, but that's about it. 


I do have a skill that a great many experienced CW ops have that might be
the difference. We can copy easily with several signals within the passband.
It's like listening to one voice in a crowded party; we just "tune out" the
other babble going on around us unless it's something we want to follow. It
only gets difficult if one nut starts shouting in my ear when I'm trying to
listen to someone else, Hi! 


Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

Hello
I haven't had my K2 (# 5846 ) long enought to fully understand all the
different settings that are possible with it , so I have a question. My CW
filter setting are FL-1 1.50, FL-2 0.70, FL-3 0.40, and 
FL-4 is 0.10. Even FL-4 is no where near as effective as the 250 hz crystal

filter in my Icom 718. When I turn on the 250 hz filter in the Icom, it's
like building a wall right on each side of the signal that I am listening
to. Nothing else is heard except noise and signals that are exactly on the
same frequency. Is this kind of selectivity possible with the K2? If I
installed the DSP option would that help? And if so, what would the filter
settngs need to be? The only options I presently have are the 160 meter
option, noise blanker, serial adapter, ssb option, and the KPA100. Thanks
Scott N5SM

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Fw: [Elecraft] K1 Battery Voltage Readout Question - Blinking

2007-04-09 Thread Russ
Veeerrry interesting!  Mine (#2136) does it also but the room has to be 
dark.


Russ, N3CO
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Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Battery Voltage Readout Question - Blinking





I have K1 # 1423, do not see ATTN LED blinking in a darkned room.


I guarantee that it does.  But *only* while the LCD is displaying the 
battery voltage.


Mike / KK5F



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Re: [Elecraft] RxAnt?

2007-04-09 Thread Joe-aa4nn

Put the RANT ON function
under one of the PF keys to
quickly switch it on and off.
de Joe, aa4nn

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excellent, thanks! 


this is going to be fun!

jim ab3cv


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Re: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?

2007-04-09 Thread Gerard Provoost
No, not true. From the plug in the AUX port in the KPA100 come two cables, 
one to your computer serial port and one as control to the KAT 100.


73 de Gerard PA1GP

- Original Message - 
From: "ub5_073_oleg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?



I'm thinking about purchasing KPA100 and KAT100 for my K2.

Is the following true? KAT100 occupies AUX port of KPA100
and makes controlling K2 from PC (MixW etc) impossible.


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[Elecraft] AUX not available for PC when using KAT100?

2007-04-09 Thread ub5_073_oleg
I'm thinking about purchasing KPA100 and KAT100 for my K2.

Is the following true? KAT100 occupies AUX port of KPA100
and makes controlling K2 from PC (MixW etc) impossible.


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