[Elecraft] Wow, Here is an example of why Elecraft is leading the pack.

2008-01-07 Thread John Buck

I have connected a Steppir antenna to my K3.
The Steppir frequency and band tracking of the K3 works fine when I am 
using my logging program.
It also works fine after I send an AI1; command to the K3 using the K3 
utility.  I can then shut off the computer.
But when the power is cycled on the K3, the K3 turns off the broadcast 
status command.  So I would have to boot the computer and resend the 
AI1; command to get the Steppir to track the K3 without the logging 
program running.


So to get the AI command to not reset during a power cycle,
at 12:44 PM today I sent a request to Elecraft support, along with my 
rationale.
At 1:25 PM today I received a note from Gary Surrency that said he 
forwarded it to Wayne for his consideration.
At 1:29 PM I received a note from Wayne that he just added it to his 
short list.

At 7:29 PM Wayne sent the following email:

"John,

I just made the AI parameter "sticky" so you won't have to do it on each 
power-up. You'll have to set it one time; this can be done using the 
"Command Tester" screen in K3 Utility.


The changes will appear in revision 1.57 (or later), which isn't yet 
released. Watch for the announcement.


73,
Wayne
N6KR "

Now I had high expectations, but less than 7 hours elapsed time from 
suggestion to incorporation in an upcoming release.  WOW!  2008 is going 
to be a very good year.


Aloha,
John Buck KH7T



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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Jan Erik Holm

Is this the ARRL reflector?
Or the RTTY reflector?
or the antenna reflector?
or the anything goes reflector?

When I subscribed I had the impression it was
the Elecraft reflector, obviously I was wrong.
Can someone point me to the Elecraft reflector.

/ SM2EKM

Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:


I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed
CW as non-relevant.


Heh, Heh...  I bought a Life membership in 76 for $250. I feel the same as you
about the ARRL's attitude regarding CW, that's why I won't ever drop my
membership.  It's costing THEM to send ME mags now ;o)



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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY and filters

2008-01-07 Thread Tom
Depends on what you are up to.

For S and P with a soundcard 200 Hz sounds to tight.
The signals have a 170Hz shift and many stations still work with a 200 Hz Shift.

I used the standard filter narrowed down to aprox 700 Hz. Was OK for me
When some qrm comes up, switching to the 400 Hz filter 

For Cq-ing your qso partner have to be exact on QRG with the 200 Hz filter but 
eliminates all others..
It is a matter of what are you looking for..

73 de Tom
HB9DOD KL5X
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> Datum: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:28:33 -0700
> Von: Mike Fatchett W0MU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Betreff: [Elecraft] RTTY and filters

> I previously mentioned in an email to the group that I was looking forward
> to trying out the 200hz filter in my K3 for RTTY contesting.  I had one
> reply wondering if that filter was going to be too tight for RTTY.
> 
> Any comments from the group on this.
> 
> The other person that emailed was planning on using the 400hz filter.
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 Bandstop Filter Schematic

2008-01-07 Thread PHIL WESTOVER
I'm not yet an owner of a K3, but I have been studying the schematic package 
to learn as much as I can about the rig.


On the RF Board schematic, sheet 1 of 4, upper left border of the page is an 
apparent multi-pin connector is labeled as "Z3 Stop-Band Filter."  The next 
sheet after all of the RF Board schematic sheets is a schematic called 
"Bandstop Filter."  I'm assuming this is the circuit that interfaces with 
the Z3 connector.  But I can't figure out how the Bandstop filter would 
connect electrically to Z3!


Could someone educate me?  Of course, that may be a lost cause!  :-)

Thanks in advance!!

73,
Phil Westover, WA7URV (K1, K2, KX1, and a K3 not too far away!) 



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RE: [Elecraft] RTTY and filters

2008-01-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Mike, 

My concern is that the 200 Hz filter might be too tight. 
With 170 Hz shift and 45.45 baud, the minimum bandwidth would 
be around 225 Hz (right at the rated - 6dB point of the "200 
Hz" filter) and probably closer to 310 Hz to maintain some of 
the "sharpness" of the shift.  

Lyle or one of the other DSP folks would know the minimum 
necessary bandwidth better that I do.  However but since the 
200 Hz roofing filter is not selected until the DSP bandwidth 
200 Hz or less it would be safe to suggest that a full 200 Hz 
configuration might be a little "too tight." 

I would think the "250 Hz" filter with its 370 Hz -6 dB 
bandwidth or even the 400 Hz filter with its 455 Hz -6 dB 
bandwidth would be more appropriate roofing filters for 
RTTY than the 200 Hz filter.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

> -Original Message-
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> Fatchett W0MU
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> Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY and filters
> 
> 
> I previously mentioned in an email to the group that I was 
> looking forward to trying out the 200hz filter in my K3 for 
> RTTY contesting.   I had one reply wondering if that filter 
> was going to be too tight for RTTY.
> 
> Any comments from the group on this.
> 
> The other person that emailed was planning on using the 400hz 
> filter.
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: Please Contact

2008-01-07 Thread Lee (WW2DX)

Tnx Dave for reading my mind.

Lee
WW2DX

On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:24 PM, Dave Agsten wrote:




She would have no problems if she sent it to the

correct address.

Geez - no need to get somewhat nasty about. It appears
that Eric was trying to expedite things on your
behalf.

It also seems rather nice that there is no objection
to your plugging your internet hosting on every
e-mail.

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[Elecraft] RE: Please Contact

2008-01-07 Thread Dave Agsten

> She would have no problems if she sent it to the
correct address.

Geez - no need to get somewhat nasty about. It appears
that Eric was trying to expedite things on your
behalf. 

It also seems rather nice that there is no objection
to your plugging your internet hosting on every
e-mail.

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[Elecraft] XV222 Problems- More Info

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Adams, PE

Hi Gang,

Yesterday I posted about troubles following building a new 222  
transverter. While probing TP5 in transmit I only had 3.5mV instead  
of the normal range of .1 -10V. Today I checked all voltages listed  
in the Owner's Manual and the only other voltage out of spec is that  
the output of U1 on transmit goes to zero. It should be 3 - 6 V on  
both xmit and rx.


I brought home from work a Tektronix 100MHz scope but the manual has  
no RF voltages. Any ideas??


73,
Mark K2QO/R
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - 40m transmit problems

2008-01-07 Thread Don Wilhelm

Zac,

For the bad voltages on Q19, look carefully for a bad solder connection 
on RFC14 (poorly tinned toroid lead perhaps?) and/or R20.   The 
resistance measurement from Q19 source to ground should be close to 270 
ohms.  Note that this condition may or may not be related to your HiCur 
situation.


As for the HiCur message - is that message present when transmitting 
into a dummy load?  Does it occur at all power levels?  Is this the base 
K2 only or does it have the KPA100 installed?  Do you have the KAT100 
also?  If you have the KPA100, has it been updated with the KPA100UPKT - 
if updated, was C31 changed to 0.22 uf during the upgrade?  Many 
questions that I must know before venturing an intelligent comment.


73,
Don W3FPR

Zac Brown wrote:
I'm getting HiCurr messages when I transmit on 40m, the bargraph shows 
multiple bars lit, and I can hear a very faint squealing sound coming 
from the K2 when I transmit.  I've built the RF probe and I'm going 
through the signal tracing steps in the manual.


On the PLL Reference Oscillator steps (appendix E, page 10) I am 
measuring U4 pin 1 at 0.252 V.  The signal tracing instructions say 
that it should be 0.8-1.8 vrms.  I then started looking at Q19 and am 
measuring G=1.0, S=-1.0, D=8.0 with my DMM.  According to the DC 
voltage tables, I should be seeing G=0, S=0.8, D=8.0.


Any advice on where I should look next?

Thanks,


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 question

2008-01-07 Thread Matthew Zilmer
Enclosure color is black.

matt - W6NIA
K3 # 24

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:47:42 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:23:00 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Can someone tell  me what the cabinet color of the K3 is? I at first
>thought it was a brown  color, then I thought I saw someone remark that is
>had been changed to black.  Now I see remarks about using a black magic
>marker to hide the chipped paint.  Is it black or brown?
>
>Stan Rife
>W5EWA
>Houston, TX
>K2 S/N  4216
>
>___
>
>The K3 has always been Black, from the demo model I saw on 4/28/07 at  
>Visalia to the SN031 that was delivered to my door on 11/2/07.  The VWR lab  
>marker 
>CAT # 52877-310 is Black 
>_http://www.vwrsp.com/catalog/product/index.cgi?catalog_number=52877-140&inE=1&highlight=52877-140_
> 
>(http://www.vwrsp.com/catalog/product/index.cgi?catalog_number=52877-140&inE=1&highlight=52877-140)
> 
> 
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>
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 D16/D17 still blowing

2008-01-07 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

That is not normal - BUT -
Before I can offer a single suggestion, can you say whether your KPA100 
is the older T/R switch design or is it a KPA100 that shipped after Nov 
2006?  If it is the older design, has it been updated with the 
KPA100UPKT - and if it has been updated, was C31 also changed to 0.22 uf?


*If* you have the older T/R switch design, there is a possibility of a 
parasitic that can show up during tuning, particularly on 40 meters.  
With the new design, *if* C31 was not changed to 0.22 uf, there is a 
possibility of a low frequency oscillation that shows up when operating 
on 160 or 80 and sometimes on 40 meters.  It might be possible for an 
oscillation to create a sufficiently high RF voltage to zap the diodes 
during a tuning cycle of the KAT100.  (Note that there are many 'ifs' 
here, thus the reason for the questions to be answered - it depends on 
the level of your KPA100).


If your KPA100 is the older design, I suggest the KPA100UPKT may cure 
the diode zapping, but if you already have the update (including the new 
C31), then there is some other problem.


73,
Don W3FPR

Bill Carpenter wrote:

Hi all,

Since adding a KAT100 to my K2/100 about a month ago D16 and D17 in 
the KPA100 have blown 3 times.  The first time I thought it was caused 
by antenna static buildup during a blizzard but the last 2 times it 
happened as the tuner was attempting to tune an antenna.  Could there 
be problem with the tuner that is causing this?  Everything is well 
grounded and the antennas are not bedsprings but a G5RV and twin sloper.


I'm getting real tired of replacing those diodes!

73,

Bill NZ0T


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Re: [Elecraft] Ngen MAR-1 MMIC Source

2008-01-07 Thread Andrew Moore
You may order a spare through Elecraft by sending your reqeust in the
"comments" field when you placed your order for the KPA100 and K60XV.
I cna't remember the price but I want to say it was around $3 or so.
Yes, I blew mine up too... and ordered another spare for future use.

--Andrew


> I just blew up the MAR-1 MMIC in my Ngen. A single dit of 15 watts on 40
> meters was enough. Trying to just have a quick peak at the the filter
> bandpass on Baudline and bumped the paddle. Yep, take the shortcut and pay
> the piper. Should have taken the time to do things properly and unplug the
> keys and turn down the power...
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 question

2008-01-07 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:23:00 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can someone tell  me what the cabinet color of the K3 is? I at first
thought it was a brown  color, then I thought I saw someone remark that is
had been changed to black.  Now I see remarks about using a black magic
marker to hide the chipped paint.  Is it black or brown?

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N  4216

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The K3 has always been Black, from the demo model I saw on 4/28/07 at  
Visalia to the SN031 that was delivered to my door on 11/2/07.  The VWR lab  
marker 
CAT # 52877-310 is Black 
_http://www.vwrsp.com/catalog/product/index.cgi?catalog_number=52877-140&inE=1&highlight=52877-140_
 
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[Elecraft] Ngen MAR-1 MMIC Source

2008-01-07 Thread Darrell Bellerive
I just blew up the MAR-1 MMIC in my Ngen. A single dit of 15 watts on 40 
meters was enough. Trying to just have a quick peak at the the filter 
bandpass on Baudline and bumped the paddle. Yep, take the shortcut and pay 
the piper. Should have taken the time to do things properly and unplug the 
keys and turn down the power...

I am in the process of putting together an order from Mouser, but don't see a 
MAR-1 listed. Anyone know off hand of a suitable substitute?

I am also putting together an order for a KPA100 and K60XV from Elecraft, so I 
will order a replacement (or a few) from them if I can't get some from 
Mouser.

73,
Darrell   VA7TO   K2#5093

-- 
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Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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[Elecraft] K2 - 40m transmit problems

2008-01-07 Thread Zac Brown
I'm getting HiCurr messages when I transmit on 40m, the bargraph shows 
multiple bars lit, and I can hear a very faint squealing sound coming 
from the K2 when I transmit.  I've built the RF probe and I'm going 
through the signal tracing steps in the manual.


On the PLL Reference Oscillator steps (appendix E, page 10) I am 
measuring U4 pin 1 at 0.252 V.  The signal tracing instructions say that 
it should be 0.8-1.8 vrms.  I then started looking at Q19 and am 
measuring G=1.0, S=-1.0, D=8.0 with my DMM.  According to the DC voltage 
tables, I should be seeing G=0, S=0.8, D=8.0.


Any advice on where I should look next?

Thanks,

Zac
KD5IEF
K2 4907
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 phantom power

2008-01-07 Thread Matthew Zilmer
However, there are a number of DC to DC converters on the market. I've
used Artesyn a number of times in solar power installations. Never a
complaint, and the oldest install is just over 7 years in operation
now.  Digikey and Mouser both stock Artesyn, and there is room in the
chassis for it.  Just a thought.

Pick a DC-DC converter for the 8 to 16 Vin range, to give 48VDC out.
Get the power rating that applies to your mic.  Probably pretty low.

matt, W6NIA
K3 # 24

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:39:08 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi Bob,
>
>We do not have this capability in the K3. Since we run off of 13.8V it 
>would take a redesign to accomplish that.
>
>73, Eric
>
>Bob W9RFS wrote:
>> Would it be possible for the K3 to provide 48volt "Phantom" power for
>> profesional condensor microphones?
>> Thanks!
>>   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 phantom power

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hi Bob,

We do not have this capability in the K3. Since we run off of 13.8V it 
would take a redesign to accomplish that.


73, Eric

Bob W9RFS wrote:

Would it be possible for the K3 to provide 48volt "Phantom" power for
profesional condensor microphones?
Thanks!
  

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 question

2008-01-07 Thread Sanger, Joseph
looks pretty black to me, Stan!

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Rife
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 question


Can someone tell me what the cabinet color of the K3 is? I at
first
thought it was a brown color, then I thought I saw someone remark that
is
had been changed to black. Now I see remarks about using a black magic
marker to hide the chipped paint. Is it black or brown?

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216

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[Elecraft] K3 cabinet color

2008-01-07 Thread Stan Rife
Maybe my posts aren't making it to the list. I asked a question
yesterday (maybe it was this morning) about the color of the K3 cabinet and
no one has bothered to answer this.

SOO what color is the K3...brown, black or otherwise???


Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216

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[Elecraft] K3 question

2008-01-07 Thread Stan Rife
Can someone tell me what the cabinet color of the K3 is? I at first
thought it was a brown color, then I thought I saw someone remark that is
had been changed to black. Now I see remarks about using a black magic
marker to hide the chipped paint. Is it black or brown?

Stan Rife
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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 NB indicator flasjing

2008-01-07 Thread Stan Rife
I thought these kinds of questions were supposed to be posted to the
K3 support email list. 


Stan Rife
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K2 S/N 4216


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:51 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 NB indicator flasjing


I believe this indicates that you have set the H/W NB threshold or width 
to too high of a value for your current noise or signal levels, which 
has the noise blanker activated a majority of the time. This will 
usually cause an unacceptable amount of intermodulation from adjacent 
signals.

Reduce the threshold or width setting to eliminate the flashing.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
---
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> You know, this thread is all well and good, but no-one has yet 
> answered the original question :)
>
> Which is:
>
>   
>>> I might have missed this in the manual, but when I change the NB IF 
>>> width value, I can get to a point where the NB flashes - what does 
>>> this indicate?
>>>   
>
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[Elecraft] Rigbaster M8 question

2008-01-07 Thread Mike, W9QS
I have an M8 rigblaster that I used with my IC718.  I
has the 8 pin Icom connector on it.  I would like to
use it with the K2.  I plan on using it mainly for
PSK31 and maybe a little RTTY.  I've ordered the SSB
board.  Is there information on how the jumpers are
connected inside for the K2?  I used VOX with the 718
and will probably do the same with the K2.

Any ideas or help appreciated.  Please answer off list
unless you feel the entire list needs the info.

The 718 will definitely be the backup if I even keep
it.  HI

73,72

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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:



Heh, Heh...  I bought a Life membership in 76 for $250. I feel the same as you
about the ARRL's attitude regarding CW, that's why I won't ever drop my
membership.  It's costing THEM to send ME mags now ;o)


I too am a Life Member...so I can't deprive them of my money.  I suspect your 
outlook is a realistic one...since the ARRL Board is a mirror of American 
politics...there are not enough unhappy voters to make a difference.


What's next after ARRL rings, affinity credit cards for The League, Auto 
Insurance?


How about ARRL beer...it could be sold as the real, official, approved 807.

Think of it...hundreds of hams at Dayton with Call Sign adjustable hats, ARRL 
rings, sucking down 807s as they charge things to their ARRL branded plastic 
money.


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:40:31 -0800 (PST), WA7CS wrote:

>
>After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the
>air.
>
>Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY
>splatter from 7.025 to 7.100.  Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell.
>
>I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY "CQ TEST".
>
>I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
>wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed
>CW as non-relevant.

Heh, Heh...  I bought a Life membership in 76 for $250. I feel the same as you
about the ARRL's attitude regarding CW, that's why I won't ever drop my
membership.  It's costing THEM to send ME mags now ;o)

>
>Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive.
>
>WA7CS
>ARRL member since 1970
>ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager


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Re: [Elecraft] Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com

2008-01-07 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Bill W5WVO wrote:

It would probably be a good point to mention from time to time -- Make sure 
your spam filter, whether online (ISP-sponsored) or local (on your own 
machine), is set up to pass emails from the elecraft.com domain!


And it would also be a good ppint to mention that you should send to the correct 
email address.  (g)


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Sandy
The 7040, and 7080-7125 has existed for some time now as an existing 
":Gentlemen's agreement".  The 7040 spot was specifically provided for 
working DX in Region 1 where these people cannot operate above 7100.  Ditto 
for the 20 meter band from 14070-14150 etc.  This band plan was specifically 
provided to keep CW stations off the 'digital' frequencies and RTTY stations 
off the CW segments that are being frequently invaded by RTTY contesters. 
Yes the FCC allows what you say, but is is bad form and "hogs" the entire CW 
sub-band during a RTTY contest.  That is the whole idea of seperating 
digital and manual CW areas of operation.  If it was once a year there would 
be no problem, but the RTTY contests seem to appear every other weekend 
nowadays.  I have no problems with contesting as such, but one mode 
shouldn't occupy the whole sub-band for frequent contests.  Take for example 
the CW QRP groups and the SKCC and FISTS CW groups.  They specify a narrow 
band to be used by the contests leaving the rest of the band for 
non-contesters or DX hunters.  Most of the other digital modes (except RTTY) 
seem to stay inside the Gentlemen's Agreement bandplan.  Why don't the RTTY 
contesters do the same?


Unfortunately, a lot of the RTTY crowd seems to think they should have the 
whole CW sub band for their contests and ignore any bandplan that gives a 
"RTTY free" area to go to for CW communications  (besides the WARC bands!) 
IS this too much to ask?



73,

Sandy W5TVW
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Fatchett W0MU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WA7CS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Elecraft Discussion List" 


Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup



30m was not used in the RTTY Round up.

Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go?

The ARRL band plans suggest...Suggest the following for normal everyday 
use.


3570-3600
7040, 7080-7125
10130-10140
14070-14095

The FCC allows USA hams to operate RTTY on the following frequencies.

3500-3600
7000-7125
10100-10150
14000-14150

It appears that all this RTTY activity is clearly within the rules.

The Roundup was for 24 hours and the RTTY operators used lots of bandwidth
that for the most part goes unused.

There are always a few hams that seem to think they own certain 
frequencies

and get upset when they are used by other amateurs for other purposes for
brief periods of time.

I guess the fun of the many have to be sacrificed for the few?

Riley Hollingsworth, Chief Counsel for the FCC, spoke at great lengths 
about
this type of attitude the last two years at Dayton.  I think you can find 
it
at the ARRL site or even on Youtube or other ham web pages.  It is worth 
the

few minutes of time to hear what he has to say.

The extra portions of the bands were for the most part RTTY free.  Many
amateur bands did not have any contest activity on them at all.  12, 17,
160, 60, 2, 6 etc.

There were plenty of CW signals to copy outside the RTTY areas.

I suspect your complaints are not targeted at just the RTTY crowd but
probably at contesting in general.  This same contesting that gets people 
to

use 10m at the minimums and utilizes a good portion of our bands on a
regular basis which helps keep our claims to these frequencies. This same
contesting group which is a huge buying force in Ham radio and a huge 
force

to bring on new ideas and rigs such as the K3.

RTTY is one part of the hobby and so is SSTV, QRP, SSB, AM, PSK etc.  If
contests are that troublesome find a non contest band or simply turn off
your radio for the weekend and mow the lawn etc.




On 1/7/08 8:40 AM, "WA7CS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on 
the

air.

Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY
splatter from 7.025 to 7.100.  Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell.

I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY "CQ TEST".

I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has 
deemed

CW as non-relevant.

Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive.

WA7CS
ARRL member since 1970
ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager



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Re: [Elecraft] Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com

2008-01-07 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Don Rasmussen wrote:


He's obviously not in a position to receive it right
now, I'll accept it Eric, you know, for, a, Thom!
Yeah right my good friend - Thom!  ;-) ;-) ;-)


Ha Hadon't hold your breath bunky.


Seriously, I've reposted to the wiki sysops but Thom
has probably already replied, phoned, and started the
drive from MD by now. ;-)


No need for all of thatall Elecraft has to do is read the email I send them, 
and take notes when I talk to them on the phone and they would not be sending 
stuff to the wrong address.

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[Elecraft] Re: Thom - K3HRN, Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-01-07 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

(I apologize for posting this to the list - Lisa is having trouble contacting 
Thom.)


She would have no problems if she sent it to the correct address.

I have answered her from the correct address telling her not to use the 
incorrect address, and submitting a change in the order based on the email you 
sent me relative to the balanced tuner.


She can also send the information to this address.

I trust this post with the copies sent to various addresses and all the ships at 
sea will correct the problem.



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Re: [Elecraft] XV50 on 70MHz

2008-01-07 Thread M0XDF

Well, I'd be doing this on a new unbuilt XV50, so if changing coils is good
and someone can document what that change is ...

I'm quite capable of assembly, but not of design.


AD6XY - Mike wrote:
> 
> The coils should really change too but will be very tricky to remove.
> Currently as a result the filter is a little lossy and not very sharp.
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] XV50 on 70MHz

2008-01-07 Thread AD6XY - Mike

I am making good progress. I managed to find an XV50 locally to do a trial
conversion. I will end up with two but perhaps someone will want one of
them. It has taken 5 hours because I was also writing the documentation
which will be on my web pages.

So far, I have managed to get the receive side working. I have converted the
LO to operate at ~42 MHz with a 3rd overtone crystal and inductive tuning.
My LO is actually 41MHz as I only had a crystal for that frequency. I have
re-tuned the LO filter and see a nice clean signal on my scope. 

To bring the converter into band I only changed the resonator and
input/output capacitors in the mixer band pass filter. The coils should
really change too but will be very tricky to remove. Currently as a result
the filter is a little lossy and not very sharp.

I have not yet modified the front end preamplifier, I found it almost tunes
with minimum C1. It works well enough to allow me to receive signals on the
band, limited by band noise.  I will look at improving the preamplifier but
so far have left it alone to avoid the risk of damaging the FET.  Conversion
gain, 70.25MHz to 29.25MHz is 24 dB. 

Later in the week I will start to pay attention to the transmitter side and
replacing the PA module and low pass filters.


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup [END of Thread]

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Guys - Let's end this thread.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator


WILLIS COOKE wrote:

Talk about leaving yourself wide open!  Be careful
what you ask, you might not like the answer!

--- Mike Fatchett W0MU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go?


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Talk about leaving yourself wide open!  Be careful
what you ask, you might not like the answer!

--- Mike Fatchett W0MU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go?
> 
>
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RE: [Elecraft] RTTY and filters

2008-01-07 Thread Jerry Flanders
I just checked the filter plot at http://www.elecraft.com/ . Strange 
that they call it a 250 Hz filter because -6 dB BW is actually 370 
Hz, compared to 435 for the 400 Hz filter. At -60, the "250" is 785 
Hz wide, compared to 935 for the "400" one.


IOW, the 250 should pass all the 170 shift sidebands OK, because it 
is not really that narrow. Not really much difference between the 250 and 400.


Jerry W4UK

At 02:20 PM 1/7/2008, J. Edward (Ed) Muns wrote:

> I previously mentioned in an email to the group that I was looking forward
> to trying out the 200hz filter in my K3 for RTTY contesting.  I had one
> reply wondering if that filter was going to be too tight for RTTY.
>
> Any comments from the group on this.
>
> The other person that emailed was planning on using the 400hz filter.

I only operate RTTY with narrow filtering, all of the following
simultaneously in the K3:

- 250Hz crystal filter
- 200Hz DSP filter
- Dual-Tone Filter

In the 756ProIII, I use the 250Hz RTTY DSP filter and the Twin-Peak Filter.
The only roofing filter "choice" in the ProIII is the standard 15kHz,
although the INRAD 4-5kHz can be added.

I want the filtering as tight as I can get it so the RTTY decoders have the
best chance to do their job.  Stations need to be good at zero-beating,
which is easy in RTTY because your decoder display is a perfect tuning
indicator.  Alternatively, on my side I have to ride the RIT a lot to pull
in the off-frequency signals.  This weekend there were a lot of stations
calling off frequency, some as much as 200 Hz away.  I suspect that those
using AFSK with AFC were responsible for a lot of that.  In other words,
their receiver was zero beat with me but their "smart" encoder skewed their
Mark tone away from where they were receiving.

In a sense these off-frequency folks are helpful because they don't QRM the
ones who are zero beat with me!  Once I work the zero-beaters out of the
pile-up, then I can grab the others with the RIT ... if they're still there.

73,
Ed - P49X (W0YK)

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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Jerry Flanders

At 02:29 PM 1/7/2008, Nelsen, Nels wrote:

...
Correct me if I am wrong, but There are no lack of places for a CW
operator to work?
 CW is allowed ANY where in the Ham band?

Thanks,
Nels Nelsen



Anywhere except on 60 meters.

Jerry W4UK 


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Re: [Elecraft] Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com

2008-01-07 Thread Bill W5WVO
It would probably be a good point to mention from time to time -- Make sure 
your spam filter, whether online (ISP-sponsored) or local (on your own 
machine), is set up to pass emails from the elecraft.com domain!


Bill W5WVO


Don Rasmussen wrote:

He's obviously not in a position to receive it right
now, I'll accept it Eric, you know, for, a, Thom!
Yeah right my good friend - Thom!  ;-) ;-) ;-)

Seriously, I've reposted to the wiki sysops but Thom
has probably already replied, phoned, and started the
drive from MD by now. ;-)

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com
Mon Jan 7 12:38:08 EST 2008

(I apologize for posting this to the list - Lisa is
having trouble contacting Thom.)

Thom, Lisa has been emailing you since last Wednesday
to confirm your K3 order, which should be shipping
this week or early next. She has not received any
replies to her emails. Her email includes an attached
.pdf of your invoice for confirmation. (Its possible
your anti-spam filter may be catching this.)

Please email Lisa (sales at elecraft.com and/or lisa
at elecraft.com) or call her at 831-662-8345. We'd
like to get this out to you as soon as possible. :-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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[Elecraft] RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Nelsen, Nels
The other night I was working on my KX-1 
and had hooked it up to an antenna for the first time.
There was not a CW signal to be found. 
Just to check, I tuned in Radio Aussi on 7240kc, with a different radio
even.
It had a booming signal.
Just no hams on the CW portion of the band.   :-(

Imagine my delight this weekend when I plugged in my radio to the
antenna again,
RTTY all over the place.:-)
It was so crowded they were pushing down into the CW
part of the band.  
SO there are still home hams out there. 
How refreshing.
How delightful.  
Correct me if I am wrong, but There are no lack of places for a CW
operator to work?
 CW is allowed ANY where in the Ham band?

Thanks,
Nels Nelsen
NE7LS
KX-1  ser 1946
Soon to be re-learning the CW aspects soon.
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Re: [Elecraft] dipole antenna efficiency

2008-01-07 Thread John Magliacane
> John Magliacane wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I believe the Normal Mode Helix, as is used in HI-VHF television
> > broadcasting, is a travelling wave antenna, rather than a
> > resonant standing wave antenna, such as a dipole.

David Woolley wrote:

> You are thinking of axial mode helices.  Normal mode helices are
> the most common antennas on VHF hand-helds, and are often called
> "rubber ducks".

I suppose various antennas go by the same name, even though their
operation is considerably different.

I was referring to a Normal Mode Helix also known as a "Side Fire
Helix".  It's described in the Antenna Engineering Handbook
(Johnson), and used in horizontally and circularly polarized
omni-directional applications (mostly VHF and UHF-TV broadcast). 
It's a traveling wave antenna where the helix is wound around a
supporting vertical mast that serves as a reflector.

Axial mode helices are a different beast.  They are typically used to
provide broadband, UNI-DIRECTIONAL, circular polarization (OSCAR
satellite communications).  Invented by John Kraus, W8JK.

I always considered a "rubber duck" to be nothing more than a
continuously loaded monopole, and is considerably different in
operation from the other two helical antennas described above.

> > When Skin Effect losses become an issue in RF conductors and 
> > inductors, Litz wire is typically used.  I see no reason why a 
>
> One has to ask why this isn't used in all the commercial
> "miracle" antennas.

Look at some of the older antennas used for FM broadcast, such as the
Collins or RCA ring dipole arrays.  These are physically short,
capacitively loaded, gamma matched dipoles.  Some implementations of
these antennas place a number of identical dipole rings in parallel
with one another to reduce ohmic losses and improve efficiency. 

These antennas may not be made from Litz wire, but the underlying
concept of distributing RF current among closely placed parallel
conductors in an effort reduce resistive losses is still the same.


73, de John, KD2BD


Visit John on the Web at:

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RE: [Elecraft] RTTY and filters

2008-01-07 Thread J. Edward (Ed) Muns
> I previously mentioned in an email to the group that I was looking forward
> to trying out the 200hz filter in my K3 for RTTY contesting.  I had one
> reply wondering if that filter was going to be too tight for RTTY.
> 
> Any comments from the group on this.
> 
> The other person that emailed was planning on using the 400hz filter.

I only operate RTTY with narrow filtering, all of the following
simultaneously in the K3:

- 250Hz crystal filter
- 200Hz DSP filter
- Dual-Tone Filter

In the 756ProIII, I use the 250Hz RTTY DSP filter and the Twin-Peak Filter.
The only roofing filter "choice" in the ProIII is the standard 15kHz,
although the INRAD 4-5kHz can be added.

I want the filtering as tight as I can get it so the RTTY decoders have the
best chance to do their job.  Stations need to be good at zero-beating,
which is easy in RTTY because your decoder display is a perfect tuning
indicator.  Alternatively, on my side I have to ride the RIT a lot to pull
in the off-frequency signals.  This weekend there were a lot of stations
calling off frequency, some as much as 200 Hz away.  I suspect that those
using AFSK with AFC were responsible for a lot of that.  In other words,
their receiver was zero beat with me but their "smart" encoder skewed their
Mark tone away from where they were receiving.

In a sense these off-frequency folks are helpful because they don't QRM the
ones who are zero beat with me!  Once I work the zero-beaters out of the
pile-up, then I can grab the others with the RIT ... if they're still there.

73,
Ed - P49X (W0YK)

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[Elecraft] KPA100 D16/D17 still blowing

2008-01-07 Thread Bill Carpenter

Hi all,

Since adding a KAT100 to my K2/100 about a month ago D16 and D17 in the 
KPA100 have blown 3 times.  The first time I thought it was caused by 
antenna static buildup during a blizzard but the last 2 times it happened as 
the tuner was attempting to tune an antenna.  Could there be problem with 
the tuner that is causing this?  Everything is well grounded and the 
antennas are not bedsprings but a G5RV and twin sloper.


I'm getting real tired of replacing those diodes!

73,

Bill NZ0T 



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[Elecraft] Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com

2008-01-07 Thread Don Rasmussen
He's obviously not in a position to receive it right
now, I'll accept it Eric, you know, for, a, Thom!
Yeah right my good friend - Thom!  ;-) ;-) ;-)

Seriously, I've reposted to the wiki sysops but Thom
has probably already replied, phoned, and started the
drive from MD by now. ;-)

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com 
Mon Jan 7 12:38:08 EST 2008 

(I apologize for posting this to the list - Lisa is
having trouble contacting Thom.)

Thom, Lisa has been emailing you since last Wednesday
to confirm your K3 order, which should be shipping
this week or early next. She has not received any
replies to her emails. Her email includes an attached
.pdf of your invoice for confirmation. (Its possible
your anti-spam filter may be catching this.)

Please email Lisa (sales at elecraft.com and/or lisa
at elecraft.com) or call her at 831-662-8345. We'd
like to get this out to you as soon as possible. :-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY and filters

2008-01-07 Thread Jerry Flanders
I plan to use the 400 Hz roofing filter combined with 250-350 Hz DSP 
filters for 170 Hz shift RTTY. I have used 250, 300, and 350 Hz DSP 
filters with ICOM 756PRO series radios for years with success.


Jerry W4UK

At 01:28 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote:

I previously mentioned in an email to the group that I was looking forward
to trying out the 200hz filter in my K3 for RTTY contesting.  I had one
reply wondering if that filter was going to be too tight for RTTY.

Any comments from the group on this.

The other person that emailed was planning on using the 400hz filter.


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and wire antenna

2008-01-07 Thread David Cutter

David

Do you mean "close to resonance" or close to 200ohm impedance ?

This is where the truly balanced matching units come into their own, but 
does anyone make them?


David
G3UNA


Cobra Ultralite

(www.k1jek.com) and the other is a 40 meter inverted Vee fed with 300-ohm
twinlead.  The tuner/balun has been able to match the first antenna on 
160

to 10 and the second antenna on 40 to 10 (and even 80 but I never use it
there).  The balun has always stayed in the 4 to 1 position. I try to 
keep


Especially in the 4:1 configuration, this sort of configuration will only 
work if the antenna is close to resonance.  If the antenna is well off 
resonance, the path of least resistance for the RF will through the balun 
windings, which are a DC short, and will be an RF short if their reactance 
is not greater than that of the antenna.  Such a configuration may appear 
to tune, but won't actually put much power into the antenna.



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[Elecraft] RTTY and filters

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I previously mentioned in an email to the group that I was looking forward
to trying out the 200hz filter in my K3 for RTTY contesting.  I had one
reply wondering if that filter was going to be too tight for RTTY.

Any comments from the group on this.

The other person that emailed was planning on using the 400hz filter.


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
30m was not used in the RTTY Round up.

Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go?

The ARRL band plans suggest...Suggest the following for normal everyday use.

3570-3600
7040, 7080-7125
10130-10140
14070-14095

The FCC allows USA hams to operate RTTY on the following frequencies.

3500-3600
7000-7125
10100-10150
14000-14150

It appears that all this RTTY activity is clearly within the rules.

The Roundup was for 24 hours and the RTTY operators used lots of bandwidth
that for the most part goes unused.

There are always a few hams that seem to think they own certain frequencies
and get upset when they are used by other amateurs for other purposes for
brief periods of time.

I guess the fun of the many have to be sacrificed for the few?

Riley Hollingsworth, Chief Counsel for the FCC, spoke at great lengths about
this type of attitude the last two years at Dayton.  I think you can find it
at the ARRL site or even on Youtube or other ham web pages.  It is worth the
few minutes of time to hear what he has to say.

The extra portions of the bands were for the most part RTTY free.  Many
amateur bands did not have any contest activity on them at all.  12, 17,
160, 60, 2, 6 etc.

There were plenty of CW signals to copy outside the RTTY areas.

I suspect your complaints are not targeted at just the RTTY crowd but
probably at contesting in general.  This same contesting that gets people to
use 10m at the minimums and utilizes a good portion of our bands on a
regular basis which helps keep our claims to these frequencies. This same
contesting group which is a huge buying force in Ham radio and a huge force
to bring on new ideas and rigs such as the K3.

RTTY is one part of the hobby and so is SSTV, QRP, SSB, AM, PSK etc.  If
contests are that troublesome find a non contest band or simply turn off
your radio for the weekend and mow the lawn etc.




On 1/7/08 8:40 AM, "WA7CS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the
> air.
> 
> Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY
> splatter from 7.025 to 7.100.  Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell.
> 
> I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY "CQ TEST".
> 
> I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
> wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed
> CW as non-relevant.
> 
> Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive.
> 
> WA7CS
> ARRL member since 1970
> ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Band Plan (was RTTY Round-up)

2008-01-07 Thread Sandy
It would be VERY NICE if the digital bandplan was adhered to.  The RTTY guys 
are some of the most flagrant violators and are usually all over all of what 
is/was the CW sub-band here.  I have thought for years they should stay in 
the segment occupied by other digital (non-CW) modes.


I always try and stay out of the digital areas with CW to keep from 
interfering with them, unless I too am using a digital mode (like PSK).  The 
only digital 'bunch' I have seen outside the traditional Region 2 digital 
bandplan is European PSK.  The area they use is very small and not usually a 
QRM problem.  Not so with the RTTY contest folks!


73,

Sady W5TVW
- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Kastigar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Elecraft Support List" 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:13 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Band Plan (was RTTY Round-up)


http://www.iaru-r2.org/band-plan/

-Matt  W0XEU



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[Elecraft] Thom - K3HRN, Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
(I apologize for posting this to the list - Lisa is having trouble 
contacting Thom.)


Thom, Lisa has been emailing you since last Wednesday to confirm your K3 
order, which should be shipping this week or early next. She has not 
received any replies to her emails. Her email includes an attached .pdf 
of your invoice for confirmation. (Its possible your anti-spam filter 
may be catching this.)


Please email Lisa ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or call 
her at 831-662-8345. We'd like to get this out to you as soon as 
possible. :-)


73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Jerry Flanders

At 12:13 PM 1/7/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... I listened to RTTY a bit  as DATA A and FSK but found the default filter
setting to be too narrow - I  could only see one station at a time.  It might
work well if you were  running but for S&P, I needed the wide filter.  When I
widened the  filter, the AGC caused a desense of the spectrum when a big
signal fired  up.  I was using Winwarbler for the RTTY engine.  I 
guess the answer

is to compromise on a 1khz roofing filter?


I think the answer is a good panadaptor. Look into using the 
softrock40 and PowerSDR combo - excellent panadaptor. This will let 
you actually see the individual sigs and see what type they are (rtty 
or CW, e.g.). When my K3 gets here I will be working on this first. 
Search on powersdr test drive to see the panadaptor in action. Also 
search on softrock and k3 panadaptor.


Jerry W4UK 


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread K4IA
Can we redirect this to talk about the  K3?

1.  Using the K3, I have no problem working CW amidst the RTTY  contesters.  
Just narrow the filter and ignore them.  You cause them  more grief than they 
cause you.  

2.  I listened to RTTY a bit  as DATA A and FSK but found the default filter 
setting to be too narrow - I  could only see one station at a time.  It might 
work well if you were  running but for S&P, I needed the wide filter.  When I 
widened the  filter, the AGC caused a desense of the spectrum when a big 
signal fired  up.  I was using Winwarbler for the RTTY engine.  I guess the 
answer  
is to compromise on a 1khz roofing filter?

Any comments?  What do  you find to be the best combination for RTTY?

k4ia
Craig  "Buck"
Fredericksburg, Virginia
K3 #101  




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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Vic K2VCO

WA7CS wrote:


I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY "CQ TEST".


Any contacts that this fellow made here would certainly not count, since 
the rules specify 80, 40, 20, 15, and 10 meters only.


Anyway, this part of the band is normally used for digital modes, so 
it's likely you would have this problem even if there weren't a contest. 
The QRP calling frequency on 30 meters is 10.106 MHz.



I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed
CW as non-relevant.

Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive.


It really has nothing to do with the ARRL, except peripherally in that 
ARRL sponsors 8 contests per year (including VHF contests).


International SSB contests also swamp CW frequencies, and big CW 
contests swamp digital mode frequencies.  The RTTY contest is one of the 
least intrusive; I made numerous CW contacts over the weekend without 
any problems.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco

CW operator and ARRL member since 1956
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
Might I suggest that instead of dropping out of the ARRL. Rejoin and
swamp EVERYONE and I mean everyone at ARRL HQ with letters and emails
voicing your concern and opinions on the direction that the ARRL is
heading. Then when elections come vote your concerns and opinions. Now
I don't want to start a major OFF Thread discussion with this. We
should stay the fight and not give up. ONE mans opinion can make a
difference. Just ask Wayne and Eric.
RC kc5wa

On Jan 7, 2008 9:54 AM, DW Holtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been a long time member of the ARRL, but I'm begining to think the
> same way. Are they really supporting the operating that I do? I really don't
> know. But, I'm more inclined to think they are headed down a road that I
> don't want to follow.
>
> Best,
> DW Holtman
> WB7SSN
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "WA7CS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
>
>
> >
> > After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on
> > the
> > air.
> >
> > Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY
> > splatter from 7.025 to 7.100.  Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell.
> >
> > I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY "CQ TEST".
> >
> > I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
> > wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has
> > deemed
> > CW as non-relevant.
> >
> > Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive.
> >
> > WA7CS
> > ARRL member since 1970
> > ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager
> >
> > --
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[Elecraft] OT: Band Plan (was RTTY Round-up)

2008-01-07 Thread Matt Kastigar
http://www.iaru-r2.org/band-plan/

-Matt  W0XEU 



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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread DW Holtman

Hello,

I have been a long time member of the ARRL, but I'm begining to think the 
same way. Are they really supporting the operating that I do? I really don't 
know. But, I'm more inclined to think they are headed down a road that I 
don't want to follow.


Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

- Original Message - 
From: "WA7CS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup




After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on 
the

air.

Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY
splatter from 7.025 to 7.100.  Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell.

I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY "CQ TEST".

I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has 
deemed

CW as non-relevant.

Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive.

WA7CS
ARRL member since 1970
ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager

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http://www.nabble.com/ARRL-RTTY-Roundup-tp14665879p14668697.html

Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread WA7CS

After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the
air.

Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY
splatter from 7.025 to 7.100.  Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell.

I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY "CQ TEST".

I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and
wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed
CW as non-relevant.

Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive.

WA7CS
ARRL member since 1970
ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager

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RE: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread J. Edward (Ed) Muns
> Ed, W0YK, was operating SO2R (two K3's) from P49X... from his QSO
> total, I suspect he may well have WON the entire contest...! I heard
> no QSO totals anywhere even close to Ed's 2500 Q's... at least so far.

I would have preferred to use two K3's, but chose not to subject them to TSA
on the trip down (and back).  One I could hand-carry, but two is a bit much.
Checked luggage is a crap shoot with TSA now.  Even the TailTwister rotor,
new in the box, that I had inside a suitcase, had parts and accessories
removed from the factory packing and not returned but just tossed in the
suitcase.  I really don't want to subject my K3's to that kind of handling.

However, the ICOM 756ProII's that we have down here worked great.  Prior to
the K3, it was my favorite RTTY radio.  Ultimately, I'd like to have two
K3's down here permanently, but let's not start another K3 availability
thread over this comment!

73,
Ed - P49X (W0YK)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 dimensions

2008-01-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
>From previous postings

It's been brought to my attention that not everyone knows that the K3 has
*two* sets of feet. One set is on the bottom as you'd expect. But there are
also four feet on the *side* of the case (the right side looking at the
front panel) that work with a handle on the left side of the case for ease
of carrying and to allow you to set the rig down on its side without
damaging the paint or the surface you set it on.

When I spoke of the width with the handle and feet attached at 11.35", I
meant those side feet and the side handle!

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Dimensions


Wayne asked me to post this in response to some queries from those who are
planning a specific location for their new K3.

The space required includes both room for the radio plus space for
connectors and, very importantly, cooling air flow through the rear and top
of the unit. 

With the handle and feet attached, the overall width of the K3 is 11.35".

Overall height of the assembled K3 with the feet attached is 4.5" (with the
bail folded down for minimum height). In addition, recommend at least 0.5"
clearance on top for cooling air flow for a total of 4.5".

The K3 case is 10.1" deep (front to back), not including the connectors on
the back or the knobs on the front. The largest rear panel connector is the
SO239 ("UHF") antenna connector that requires an additional 0.5" depth.
Space is needed for the connector to attach at this point, plus routing the
cable, of course. The minimum additional depth for the antenna connection is
probably 1.4" for a right-angle connector. Connectors attached to the
multipin ACC and RS232 ports will also require additional depth. The
connectors typically supplied by Elecraft require an additional 2.25" from
the rear panel to the back of the jack screw. Similarly, straight-ling 1/4"
plugs for the KEY or PADDLE jacks on the back typically require an extra
depth of 2". A right angle jack may reduce that a bit. Of course there may
be audio connectors using mini audio plugs and control lines using "RCA"
connectors as well as a ground connection, but they do not require as much
depth as the ACC, RS232, Antenna, KEY or PADDLE connectors.

Keep in mind that air movement space is essential for cooling, especially
for the 100 watt version. The cooling fans are on the rear of the K3 and
require an unobstructed flow of air through the rear and through the holes
in the top of the case.

TO SUMMARIZE: A fully assembled K3 with handle and feet attached and cables
attached to the back will need the following space:

Width with handles and feet: 11.4" (minimum)

Height (bail collapsed) 5.0" (includes 0.5" for cooling air flow).

Depth: 12.1" minimum from the front panel, which includes a 2" space for
connectors in the back. The largest knob is the main tuning knob that
extends 1.1" from the front for an overall minimum front to back space
needed of 13.2" including clearance for the knobs on the front and room for
connectors to attach on the back.

Ron AC7AC

From: Elecraft (r)  Hands-On Ham Radio
http://www.elecraft.com/


A VFOA knob is slightly off-centre to the right and at the bottom - there
are lots of good pictures on lots of sites like http://www.n4lcd.com/k3/

73 de M0XDF, K3 # 174


On 7/1/08 14:37, "VE2FWW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> Hello
> Just for my information I would like to know the exact dimensions of the
> K3...and also, 
> this question.Is the Main Dial, in the MIDDLE of the front Panelif not
> where is it situated starting form the center  of the panel?is it more to
> the left or to the right
> I have in mind of buying one...but my area is limited.on the table...'
> So these informations would be very usefull before ordering one...
> Thanks
> NOEL 

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[Elecraft] K3 dimensions

2008-01-07 Thread VE2FWW
Hello
Just for my information I would like to know the exact dimensions of the 
K3...and also, 
this question.Is the Main Dial, in the MIDDLE of the front Panelif not 
where is it situated starting form the center  of the panel?is it more to 
the left or to the right
I have in mind of buying one...but my area is limited.on the table...'
So these informations would be very usefull before ordering one...
Thanks
NOEL 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SN #186 Delivered

2008-01-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Great, congrats - more K3's in the UK :)


On 7/1/08 14:08, "David Pratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> K3 (kit) #186 was shipped by Elecraft on 3 January and delivered by UPS
> Express today, Monday, 7 January at 12:29 GMT.
> 
> It was ordered by FAX on 3 May at 17:58 GMT.
> 
> Assembly is underway.
> 
> 73

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[Elecraft] K3 SN #186 Delivered

2008-01-07 Thread David Pratt
K3 (kit) #186 was shipped by Elecraft on 3 January and delivered by UPS 
Express today, Monday, 7 January at 12:29 GMT.


It was ordered by FAX on 3 May at 17:58 GMT.

Assembly is underway.

73
--
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Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi tom:


My first contest action with K3 #29 was the RU last weekend

managed to be on the air for a couple of houres on 20 meters

With a 50 feet long wire worked 18 countries and 12 US States
from HB9-land

Pretty frustrated that i could copy a lot of stations deep in
the qrm/noise in RTTY but they didnt hear me.. must be a darn
good receiver.. hi

Next thing to do: put up a decent antenna.

Hp to wk u in the next rtty test.


Congratulations on  being active in the RTTY RU.

There were a number of stations I called but could not work either.
I think much of the problem was they THEY were being called by many
others as well and my signal was not the strongest of the bunch.  I
did not stick around many time to make multiple calls to a station,
if I did not work him on the 3rd call, I moved on. I suspect that if
I had been more tenacious at calling, eventually he'd have heard me
and I'd have worked him... 

Ed, W0YK, was operating SO2R (two K3's) from P49X... from his QSO
total, I suspect he may well have WON the entire contest...! I heard
no QSO totals anywhere even close to Ed's 2500 Q's... at least so far.

I operated without any external logging support, using only the K3's
CW-to-RTTY conversion features and its internal RTTY decoding. Working
stations was NO PROBLEM AT ALL... tuning them in using the K3's dual
passband RTTY tuning option was as easy as anything and then having
the exchange pre-programmed into a couple memories allowed me to just
punch the button and go... when someone asked for a 'fill' I just
sent it with the CW paddles and completed the contact.

My 'effort' was something less than 'sterling' but I did knock out
20 or so Q's in a very short amount of time. Lots of fun.

73,

Tom Hammond   N0SS

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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
Thanks for the report.

I am anxious to get my K3 and 200 kc roofing filter for the RTTY contests!
Adjacent big signal qrm does curious things to your ability to copy good
print.

Mike W0MU


On 1/7/08 6:23 AM, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> My first contest action with K3 #29 was the RU last weekend
> 
> managed to be on the air for a couple of houres on 20 meters
> 
> With a 50 feet long wire worked 18 countries and 12 US States from HB9-land
> 
> Pretty frustrated that i could copy a lot of stations deep in the qrm/noise in
> RTTY but they didnt hear me.. must be a darn good receiver..hi
> 
> Next thing to do: put up
> a decent antenna.
> 
> Hp to wk u in the next rtty test.
> 
> 73 de Tom
> 
> 


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[Elecraft] Kany: Dumb Question - Crystals

2008-01-07 Thread KBG Luxford
I am wondering what must be the good reason why kit suppliers provide 
crystals with two wires when crystals with three wires are available - 
the middle wire being connected to the external metal case, thus making 
earthing of the case a very quick, simple and safe operation.


Every time I have to solder grounding wires to the case of a crystal, I 
get the nervous jim-jams, as I am afraid that I will damage the crystal 
by overheating, although I try to be ever so quick - a bit like my 
countryman, the late Errol Flynn.


I guess the answer must be cost.

73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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[Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup

2008-01-07 Thread Tom
Hi there

My first contest action with K3 #29 was the RU last weekend

managed to be on the air for a couple of houres on 20 meters

With a 50 feet long wire worked 18 countries and 12 US States from HB9-land

Pretty frustrated that i could copy a lot of stations deep in the qrm/noise in 
RTTY but they didnt hear me.. must be a darn good receiver..hi

Next thing to do: put up 
a decent antenna.

Hp to wk u in the next rtty test.

73 de Tom



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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone capsule for K2

2008-01-07 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 1/6/2008 6:21:57 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have a MH2, and going back  and reviewing the SSB passband and filter
alignment helped me quite a  bit.  It sounds fine, though I heard through
another on the list that  they had success with their Proset with HC5
without the preamp.  I tried  it out with a friend listening, and it
worked just fine, and is now what I  use.  I do notice that it is
impacted by the nearness of the mic to my  mouth, so it would likely have
more dynamic activity with a preamp, but I am  driving to a full signal
with the current setup.

If you are not  getting good reports with the MH2, then switching to
another, similar mic (or  even the HC5) will not help.  First thing you
need to do is check you  passband, make sure they start at 300hz and then
listen to both U & L  sideband on another rig.
-  

David  Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 S/N 5982


On Sun, 2008-01-06  at 13:29 +0100, Karsten Eppert (DK4AS) wrote:
> I have purchased together  with my K2 an MH2 microphone short before it 
> was discontinued two years  ago.
> The reports I receive always state, that the mike has too much  bass.
> The filters of my K2 were checked with spectrogram and - to me -  appear 
> correct.
> 
> In parallel I have tried a cheap  boomset with an electret-mike. That 
> resulted in unfavourable reports  like "sounds like a c-class-amplifier. 
> Too little bias current". So I  checked the bias and it is ok.
> 
> Well - I?m looking for a good  alternative now, but which one to select?
> 
> Go for a Heil Proset  K2? I figure, that one contains the Heil 
> iC-electret-capsule. But what  are the specs?
> 
> Go and replace the electret-capsule of my MD2  with a Heil HC-5-capsule? 
> What disadvantages will I have with such  solution regarding frequency 
> response as the HC-5 apparently is a  dynamic or condenser mike?
> 
> Can anybody share his experience  with me?
> 
> 73
> Karsten
> DK4AS
> K2  #4764
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I have run the Proset HC5 and the Elecraft Proset Which has an electret mic  
element and found them to both work well and also sound very much alike.  I  
ran the checks while beta testing the IMA (Internal Mic  Adapter) produced by 
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[Elecraft] WTB: Elecraft KX1

2008-01-07 Thread T W
Hi, Group,

I'm looking for a well-built, fully loaded KX1 (with KXB3080, KXAT1 &
KXPD1). Please contact me off list.

Cheers,
Tom Witherspoon
kf4tzk
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Net Report for January 6th and 7th - Minor correction

2008-01-07 Thread William Shappley

Kevin -

Just a note to congratulate you on being able to hear me on the 7045  
KHz net yesterday evening.

The band was way down here in TN and the QSB was rapid and deep.

The minor correction is that I was on K3 serial # 175 for the net -  
my K2 (# 5540) was asleep and
resting.  As usual, 100 watts into my horizontal loop wire antenna.   
If it were not for the K3 DSP

noise reduction I don't think I would have heard anything!

Yes, good things come to those who wait - the K3 arrived in kit form  
on Dec 20th.


Thanks and 73,
Bill
K4DXU




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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Email Archives

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Walkington
Clearly asleep then!

 

  _  

From: Gary Hvizdak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2008 9:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Email Archives

 

Mike,

 

See http://www.elecraft.com/elist.html for Elecraft's list.

 

73,
Gary  KI4GGX

 

  _  

 

Mike Walkington
Mon Jan 7 04:42:55 EST 2008 

  _  

All,
 
Have I been asleep, or is there a rash of Elecraft archives appearing.
Julian, G4ILO, spotted the google one a few days ago, but nabble?
 
 
http://www.nabble.com/Elecraft-f28632.html
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/info.html
 
http://groups.google.com/group/elecraft-archive
 
Mike
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Email Archives

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Walkington
All,

Have I been asleep, or is there a rash of Elecraft archives appearing.
Julian, G4ILO, spotted the google one a few days ago, but nabble?


http://www.nabble.com/Elecraft-f28632.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/info.html

http://groups.google.com/group/elecraft-archive

Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] XV50 on 70MHz

2008-01-07 Thread M0XDF

I too would be interested in buying an XV70, or a XV50 kit and applying mods
as part of my build.

-- 73, M0XDF, K3 #174


Trevor Day wrote:
> 
>>I think an Elecraft “XV70” would do well in
>>Europe as there is a lack of any competition for equipment on this rapidly
>>expanding band. 
> 


-
73 de M0XDF FISTS #12575 :working:
Waiting for Elecraft K3
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Re: [Elecraft] XV50 on 70MHz

2008-01-07 Thread AD6XY - Mike

I am working on it. My plan is to make as few changes as possible while
maintaining adequate performance. This will be a compromise but should make
it easier to modify existing units.

I will put the instructions on my web pages (www.mike-willis.com) when
ready. I have done the design work but I am now waiting for some parts to
arrive before testing the modifications. The longest lead item is the 42MHz
crystal. 

The most expensive new part will be the power module, though not for new
builds as Elecraft are now using a MosFET module that covers 70MHz already.

Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] dipole antenna efficiency

2008-01-07 Thread David Woolley

John Magliacane wrote:


When Skin Effect losses become an issue in RF conductors and
inductors, Litz wire is typically used.  I see no reason why a


One has to ask why this isn't used in all the commercial "miracle" antennas.



I believe the Normal Mode Helix, as is used in HI-VHF television
broadcasting, is a travelling wave antenna, rather than a
resonant standing wave antenna, such as a dipole.


You are thinking of axial mode helices.  Normal mode helices are the 
most common antennas on VHF hand-helds, and are often called "rubber ducks".




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and wire antenna

2008-01-07 Thread David Woolley

John W2XS wrote:

I use the KAT2 and BL2 with 2 different antennas.  One is the Cobra Ultralite
(www.k1jek.com) and the other is a 40 meter inverted Vee fed with 300-ohm
twinlead.  The tuner/balun has been able to match the first antenna on 160
to 10 and the second antenna on 40 to 10 (and even 80 but I never use it
there).  The balun has always stayed in the 4 to 1 position. I try to keep


Especially in the 4:1 configuration, this sort of configuration will 
only work if the antenna is close to resonance.  If the antenna is well 
off resonance, the path of least resistance for the RF will through the 
balun windings, which are a DC short, and will be an RF short if their 
reactance is not greater than that of the antenna.  Such a configuration 
may appear to tune, but won't actually put much power into the antenna.



the piece of coax from the balun to the rig as short as possible, and
sometimes use the male-to-male BNC adaptor that Elecraft sells.

72,

John W2XS

K2, KX1, and K3 (due in April)



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