Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request

2008-07-21 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, "Leigh L. Klotz, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...

But here's the problem I encountered: I never, ever want to send CW on
60m.  It's illegal for me, even if I just accidentally bump into the key
while I'm in a 60M USB QSO.  It's not like bumping the key on some other
band where you can just give an ID and move on.  There's simply no way to
do it legally.


I wouldn't worry about it too much, Leigh.  Hopefully the FCC will join 
the rest of the world and permit CW on 60m in the near future. With 
channels only 3kHz wide, narrow modes are more appropriate, permitting 
operation by many stations on the same channel.  SSB occupies a whole 
channel, which does not make economical use of the limited spectrum 
available.


73
--
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Momentary breaks when tuning down

2008-07-21 Thread AD6XY

I have noted something similar - say you set to fine tuning so you have a
frequency like 14.28. Then set to faster tuning rate. Tune down and up.
You find you are on 14.28001, there is no way to zero the last digit again.
Not that it matters but it is odd - perhaps a rounding error. 

I don't know if it is just me but I find the tuning rate, even when set to
fast and/or using the clarifier to still be far far too slow. I am sure it
is fine to tune across 7MHz but tuning from 144.3 to 144.5 (to get from our
calling channel to the beacon band) takes forever. Quite often you will
reply tol someone on 144.3 and they request to QSY off the calling channel,
often by up to 100kHz. I find I am forever pressing the rate button, or for
large QSYs setting to FM and back. Otherwise by the time the K3 gets there
the other station has gone back to 144.300 wondering where you went. This is
of course how I noticed the last digit issue above.

Mike


David Andrews-3 wrote:
> 
> I'm aware when tuning down a band on receive that there is a short break
> in
> the audio every so often. This doesn't seem to happen when tuning up the
> band. Can anyone explain what is happening? 
> 
>  
> 
> David G4CWB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

2008-07-21 Thread AD6XY

I am not  sure I agree. If you leave it in the box as delivered then you can
just put it through like any other piece of baggage. Possibly even put it
inside another bag. It may be that you need to pay the extra $25 for an
extra bag but that will be cheaper than UPS. I doubt the UPS baggage
handlers are much gentler than the airline ones.

Mike



LB3SA wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the responses! It was very useful.
> 
> If I had travelled myself I would have brought it. But since it will be a
> colleague it sounds like it's best to send it over with UPS. That way I'm
> reasonably sure it'll get here in one piece.
> 
> Are
> 
> 
> Jon K Hellan wrote:
>> 
>> LB3SA wrote:
>>> My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the
>>> US
>>> though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
>>> Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out
>>> of
>>> the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
>>> places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was
>>> extrememly
>>> small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.
>>> 
>>> Are - LB3SA
>>> KX1 - K2 - K3 on order
>> 
>> 33 x 33 x 40 cm (w d h)
>> 
>> In checked baggage, you'd probably need even more popcorn.
>> 
>> 73
>> LA4RT Jon
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[Elecraft] K2 KIO2 Serial Data causes RX Interference

2008-07-21 Thread Stephen Arnold
Hi All,

I hope that someone out there might be able to help me with this one.

What I have is a basic K2 with KAT2 internal tuner (KSB2 and KBT2 are also
installed). Then I also have the KPA100 outboard in a EC2 with the
KAT100-2.

To say it another way (without all those K's ;-) what we have is the "K2
Twins".

All works very nicely (thankyou Elecraft!!) except that I am now starting
to play with digital modes.

I have the K2 connected to an Asus Eee PC running Linux (Mandriva 2008.1).
When I run the fldigi software and tell it to use hamlib to perform rig
control everything works perfectly BUT...

I now have RX audio interference. It sounds like a low volume puffing
steam train or a chuff-chuff type noise. It is pretty obvious what is
causing it. The constant serial data stream being sent by the fldigi
program.

The interference is all bands and all frequencies so far as I can tell. It
is very low level but quite audible and would drive you mad if you tried
to use the radio for any length without turning the volume down. Needless
to say it will no doubt play havoc with weak digital signals.

Questions is: Am I looking at a fault in my particular K2 set-up or just a
design limitation? (you would never notice the issue except for the
constant polling by fldigi). And how does one go about trying to fix the
problem?

Any ideas, anyone?

73, Steve
VK2SJA



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Re: [Elecraft] new K1: no transmit on Band 2

2008-07-21 Thread Elwood C. Downey
Hi Don,

Thanks for the reply. I traced until I found good signal entering RF-J7-1 but 
almost nothing coming out RF-J7-8. I saw
nothing obviously wrong but reheated all the pins to K2 and the surrounding 
caps. Now everything is running fine. I
must have been optimistic thinking receive was working too.

73,

Elwood


On Mon, July 21, 2008 8:50 am, Don Wilhelm said:
> I hope that helps.  If not, get out your RF Probe (or 'scope)
>
> Elwood C. Downey wrote:
>> Again: receive OK both bands, xmit ok band 1, no power out on band 2.

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Re: [Elecraft] New quirk on year old K2 receive

2008-07-21 Thread Don Wines

John,

The flashing "F" means the the "Fast Play" function is on. This function 
allows you to access the message memories 4,5&6 without pressing the "MSG" 
button first. It is probably assigned to one of the "PFn" buttons which, if 
I remember correctly, is the only way to turn it on. Try press and hold on 
both the "PF1" and "PF2" button. If fast play is assigned to either one the 
display will toggle between "FPLy OFF" and "FPLy ON".


Or press "MENU" and scroll to the "PF1" and "PF2" items. One of them is 
probably set to "FP on".


This is all coming from memory which is dangerous at my age!

Hope this helps.

Don
K5DW


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From: "John Wiener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Elecraft email email" 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] New quirk on year old K2 receive


Lately I have noticed that the "c" on the display during cw receive 
changes to "F" about every 3 sec or so.This does not happen in  "u" or 
"l" or "r"  There appears to be no change in receive  performance or sound 
quality.

What does this signify?

Thanks!

John
AB8O
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Re: [Elecraft] Computer Control of K2

2008-07-21 Thread a.yoshida

Tom

I have no problem to control K2 by logging program.
Have you read KIO2 manual ?
All you need is described in the manual.

Good Luck

73
aki  ja1nlx

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Computer Control of K2



Good Evening Group,

Here's an odd one.  I decided to rebuild my ham desk and upgrade my
computer.  I wound up putting the old computer back where it was, so 
nothing

was changed there.

After all was done, I hooked everything back up, and - while the K2, 
KPA100

and KAT100 work fine - HRD will not recognize the radio.

I have checked the cables, tried both native serial ports on the mb and 2
ports on a PCI card - even reinstalled all the drivers.

I have tried other control programs - no joy.

I have opened the K2 and checked everything visually and checked for
evidence of smoke leakage.

I am at a loss, so I pose you two questions:

1.  Can anyone think of something I should look at?

2.  Can I use a USB to Serial dongle to hook up the K2 just to try 
something

else?

Thanks,

73,

Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] Computer Control of K2

2008-07-21 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tom,

Since the control for the K2/KPA100/KAT100 linkage uses internal K2 
signal lines that are completely separate from the TXD and RXD signals 
between the computer and the K2, the fact that your K2/KPA100/KAT100 
still operate is not any indication of 'goodness' regarding the link to HRD.


Check the port settings on the computer, Check the K2 menu to be certain 
PORT is set ON.
Be certain the cable from the computer goes first to the K2 (or the 
KPA100 if and only if it is mounted on the K2 top cover).  If the cable 
to the computer goes first to the external KAT100 (or an externally 
mounted KPA100), the computer connection will not work because there are 
no wires in the KAT100 to K2 cable to carry the TXD and RXD signals.


73,
Don W3FPR


NG3V wrote:

Good Evening Group,
 
Here's an odd one.  I decided to rebuild my ham desk and upgrade my

computer.  I wound up putting the old computer back where it was, so nothing
was changed there. 
 
After all was done, I hooked everything back up, and - while the K2, KPA100

and KAT100 work fine - HRD will not recognize the radio.
 
I have checked the cables, tried both native serial ports on the mb and 2

ports on a PCI card - even reinstalled all the drivers.
 
I have tried other control programs - no joy.
 
I have opened the K2 and checked everything visually and checked for

evidence of smoke leakage.
 
I am at a loss, so I pose you two questions:
 
1.  Can anyone think of something I should look at?
 
2.  Can I use a USB to Serial dongle to hook up the K2 just to try something

else?

  

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Re: [Elecraft] New quirk on year old K2 receive

2008-07-21 Thread Don Wilhelm

John,

"F" is for Fast Play.  It is set on.  Only applicable for CW.  See the 
K2 manual section 8 - Operation.  Specifically the Secondary Menu 
Functions.  If you do not have the printed manual handy, you may 
download a copy of the latest from the Elecraft website.


73,
Don W3FPR

John Wiener wrote:
Lately I have noticed that the "c" on the display during cw receive 
changes to "F" about every 3 sec or so.This does not happen in "u" 
or "l" or "r"  There appears to be no change in receive performance or 
sound quality.

What does this signify?

Thanks!

John
AB8O
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[Elecraft] Computer Control of K2

2008-07-21 Thread NG3V
Good Evening Group,
 
Here's an odd one.  I decided to rebuild my ham desk and upgrade my
computer.  I wound up putting the old computer back where it was, so nothing
was changed there. 
 
After all was done, I hooked everything back up, and - while the K2, KPA100
and KAT100 work fine - HRD will not recognize the radio.
 
I have checked the cables, tried both native serial ports on the mb and 2
ports on a PCI card - even reinstalled all the drivers.
 
I have tried other control programs - no joy.
 
I have opened the K2 and checked everything visually and checked for
evidence of smoke leakage.
 
I am at a loss, so I pose you two questions:
 
1.  Can anyone think of something I should look at?
 
2.  Can I use a USB to Serial dongle to hook up the K2 just to try something
else?
 
Thanks,
 
73,
 
Tom
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[Elecraft] New quirk on year old K2 receive

2008-07-21 Thread John Wiener
Lately I have noticed that the "c" on the display during cw receive  
changes to "F" about every 3 sec or so.This does not happen in  
"u" or "l" or "r"  There appears to be no change in receive  
performance or sound quality.

What does this signify?

Thanks!

John
AB8O
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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK Help

2008-07-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> I'm wondering if any one in this esteemed group is 
> successfully using the K3 / microKeyer II / MixW combo in FSK 
> mode (I'm not interested in AFSK.). If so, would you kindly 
> contact me off list.
> 
> I am particularly looking for help in keeping the K3 and MixW 
> in the "non-inverted" state.

All of the microHAM interfaces work properly with the K3 and 
MixW when configured as shown in the MixW Set-up guides that 
are available for download through the "Download Documents" 
link in microHAM Router's Help menu starting with Router 5. 

In general, the K3 should be operated in "FSK D."  MixW should 
have the PTT&CAT dialog set so "Default digi mode" is RTTY and 
DIG (Yaesu) is = LSB.  "FSK center fq" should be set to 2210 
if you are using the standard 2125/2295 Hz tones.  The "Inv" 
box must not be checked in microHAM Router. 

73, 

   ... Joe Subich, W4TV 
   microHAM America 
   http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 



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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WS6X
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:29 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK Help
> 
> 
> I'm wondering if any one in this esteemed group is 
> successfully using the K3 / microKeyer II / MixW combo in FSK 
> mode (I'm not interested in AFSK.). If so, would you kindly 
> contact me off list.
> 
> I am particularly looking for help in keeping the K3 and MixW 
> in the "non-inverted" state.
> 
> I know I should be addressing the MixW group but the 
> moderator over there gets excited if you even THINK about 
> mentioning hardware. :(
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim, WS6X 
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[Elecraft] K3 #1264

2008-07-21 Thread Jim Cundiff

Hey All,
   K3 #1264 is built, and I must say it was a sweet build! The only 
problem was installing the front panel until I remembered about the 2D 
screw hitting the corner of the board. If I would have turned the page 
over and read ahead, I would have seen it there. I suffered a 
calibration challenge on the 50w tx part. After a call to Scott and Dale 
(great guys!) I discovered that my cable from the radio or my cheap 
dummy load was bad. Replaced those and had to call back to report all 
passed with flying colors!


   I am just relaying the above to say 'Make sure your test gear is as 
good as the radio you are testing!' The fit and finish of the parts is 
top notch and even though there are a couple of errors in the manual 
still, even a limited experience guy like myself can build this radio. 
Awesome radio and awesome customer service! Thank you Elecraft! 73


In His service,
Jim Cundiff KB3GFC
K3 #1264
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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK Help

2008-07-21 Thread James C. Hall, MD

Hi Jim:

Interfaces like the MK II (I have the MK) because of its construction
reverses the polarity of RTTY (FSK) signals. All radios with this and other
interfaces should be set to reversed polarity. This will of course cause any
AFSK you might do to be inverted but that's why you have the check switch in
MixW ! :)

73, Jamie
WB4YDL

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> I'm wondering if any one in this esteemed group is successfully using the 
> K3
> / microKeyer II / MixW combo in FSK mode (I'm not interested in AFSK.). If
> so, would you kindly contact me off list.
>
> I am particularly looking for help in keeping the K3 and MixW in the
> "non-inverted" state.
>
> I know I should be addressing the MixW group but the moderator over there
> gets excited if you even THINK about mentioning hardware. :(
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim, WS6X
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request

2008-07-21 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.

OK, I'm going to try one last time.

The K3 has a feature whereby it can do CW in USB mode.
It doesn't do this by default; you have specifically enable this feature.
This feature has plenty of issues, even for the folks who asked for it:
logging programs think you're in USB when you are actually operating CW,
for example.  There's no way around that.

But here's the problem I encountered: I never, ever want to send CW on
60m.  It's illegal for me, even if I just accidentally bump into the key
while I'm in a 60M USB QSO.  It's not like bumping the key on some other
band where you can just give an ID and move on.  There's simply no way to
do it legally.

Now, if I want to make sure my rig never gets a stuck key or a dit on 60m,
I can do this really easily: just don't go into CW mode.  I've been a ham
since 1969, and I think I can trust myself to know what mode my rig is in.

But wait, now I can't!  It says USB, but it's not USB, it's CW.

I know, I'll ask Elecraft in a quick one-liner if they can offer an OPTION
so that the CW in SSB mode OPTION can be selectively not turned on on 60m.
 Seems simple enough.

But what do I get in response?  A long thread of debate on why I shouldn't
want me to prevent them from using CW (as if you'd *have* to have this
enabled), how folks in England can get special license authority to use CW
on 60m (which is totally irrelevant to me and my request, and is of no
disadvantage to anyone else, though it's a nice privilege to have), and
how I'm somehow Letting Down Ham Radio by asking for an option to have my
rig send not send CW in SSB mode in the one place where it matters.

Then by the time someone from Elecraft actually gets to the message, the
debate among those bashing the straw-man-proposals-that-aren't-what-I-said
are all that's left and the original intent of the request is totally
lost.

73 es QRU,
Leigh/WA5ZNU





On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:30:08 -0700, "Leigh L. Klotz, Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


What I actually said was (in its entirety) this:

 Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to
disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m.

Leigh/WA5ZNU



[snip]

Lyle Johnson wrote:


Please keep in mind that the K3 is shipped worldwide. Many
administrations have rules less restrictive than in the U.S.

73,

Lyle KK7P



Although it has become common practice to protect us from ourselves in

all walks

of life, I prefer that rig manufacturers not restrict my operating

capabilities.

It's my responsibility to follow the rules.  I don't want rig
manufacturers to
take on that responsibility for me.

It reminds me of when I asked the policeman who visited my elementary

school,
"Why don't you find a way to stop criminals from committing crimes?". 

His answer was, "It's my Job to bring the criminals in our society to
justice, not

to  prevent them from committing the crimes."

73,


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Essential Liberty to
purchase a little Temporary
Safety deserve neither
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK Help

2008-07-21 Thread John Reiser

Hi Jim,

I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to your question.  (Someone out there 
surely does).  I'm new to digi-modes.  Started when I got my K3 in 
mid-February. Since then I have worked 102 countries  in RTTY and PSK-31.  I 
use MMTY and Digipan.


But, I have a question for you, being a neophyte.  Why are you not 
interested in AFSK?  Does FSK work better in some way?  Let me say, I have 
been very pleased with AFSK so far.  I have worked almost any station that I 
could hear/print so far.


Is it worth the bother to wire up a cable for FSK?  Why is it better than 
AFSK?


Many thanks and 73,

John, W2GW



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To: 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] FSK Help


I'm wondering if any one in this esteemed group is successfully using the 
K3

/ microKeyer II / MixW combo in FSK mode (I'm not interested in AFSK.). If
so, would you kindly contact me off list.

I am particularly looking for help in keeping the K3 and MixW in the
"non-inverted" state.

I know I should be addressing the MixW group but the moderator over there
gets excited if you even THINK about mentioning hardware. :(

Thanks,

Jim, WS6X

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[Elecraft] [K3] FSK Help

2008-07-21 Thread WS6X
I'm wondering if any one in this esteemed group is successfully using the K3
/ microKeyer II / MixW combo in FSK mode (I'm not interested in AFSK.). If
so, would you kindly contact me off list.

I am particularly looking for help in keeping the K3 and MixW in the
"non-inverted" state.

I know I should be addressing the MixW group but the moderator over there
gets excited if you even THINK about mentioning hardware. :(

Thanks,

Jim, WS6X 

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[Elecraft] FS: Loaded K2/100

2008-07-21 Thread Jim Brown
I have for sale K2/100 #301, loaded with KPA100, K160RX, KSB2, 
KAT100, KDSP2, KNB2, and rig control cable (KIO is part of KPA100). 
KPA100 is in top of enclosure with K2, KAT100 is is the outboard 
enclosure and sits under the rig. Will ship only to USA (I don't want 
to deal with Customs). Most updates installed. Make an offer (I'll 
take less than you might think!). 

73,

Jim K9YC 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

2008-07-21 Thread LB3SA

Thanks for all the responses! It was very useful.

If I had travelled myself I would have brought it. But since it will be a
colleague it sounds like it's best to send it over with UPS. That way I'm
reasonably sure it'll get here in one piece.

Are


Jon K Hellan wrote:
> 
> LB3SA wrote:
>> My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the
>> US
>> though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
>> Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out
>> of
>> the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
>> places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was
>> extrememly
>> small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.
>> 
>> Are - LB3SA
>> KX1 - K2 - K3 on order
> 
> 33 x 33 x 40 cm (w d h)
> 
> In checked baggage, you'd probably need even more popcorn.
> 
> 73
> LA4RT Jon
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RE: [Elecraft] Sell New MH2 for K3 or K2

2008-07-21 Thread Don Nesbitt
The MH2 has been spoken for - thanks for all the responses.  73 -- Don

-Original Message-
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Subject: [Elecraft] Sell New MH2 for K3 or K2

Surplus to my needs. Purchased from Elecraft in December.  Opened box to
check contents - yep, it was all there!  See photo at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/n4hh. It looks just like all the others!

Never used - I prefer using my headset.  Paid $66.02 ($59 + $7.02 shipping -
copy of my original invoice will be included) - Sell for $50 which includes
Priority Mail to your CONUS QTH.  USPS MO please.  Please reply off list.
TNX. 73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH  K3 #83 and another on the way!

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[Elecraft] FSK POL now works

2008-07-21 Thread alsopb

FSK POL didn't invert transmitted polarity, when asked to, in FSK D mode even
in the last release.
It works fine in 2.15/1.84 beta version.  Don't know about earlier beta
versions.

The text decoding of the K3 is a neat troubleshooting tool.  Moniter
yourself.   You know right away whether you're sending upside down.  No need
to ask a friend or hook up a RTTY decoder to another RX.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m featurerequest

2008-07-21 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:30:08 -0700, "Leigh L. Klotz, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>What I actually said was (in its entirety) this:
>
>  Perhaps it's too esoteric, but it would be nice if there were a way to 
>disable the CW in SSB mode feature for 60m.
>
>Leigh/WA5ZNU
>
>
[snip]
>Lyle Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Please keep in mind that the K3 is shipped worldwide. Many 
>> administrations have rules less restrictive than in the U.S.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Lyle KK7P
>>

Although it has become common practice to protect us from ourselves in all walks
of life, I prefer that rig manufacturers not restrict my operating capabilities.
It's my responsibility to follow the rules.  I don't want rig manufacturers to
take on that responsibility for me.

It reminds me of when I asked the policeman who visited my elementary school,
"Why don't you find a way to stop criminals from committing crimes?".  His
answer was, "It's my Job to bring the criminals in our society to justice, not
to  prevent them from committing the crimes."

73,

 
Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq

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Essential Liberty to 
purchase a little Temporary 
Safety deserve neither 
Liberty nor Safety" 

An excerpt from a letter 
written in 1755 from the 
Assembly to the Governor 
of Pennsylvania.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in USB mode, making CW contact, with computer logger

2008-07-21 Thread Greg - AB7R
I don't see how to do this except for making sure your log is correct manually 
IF 
you use that feature.  The radio will normally be in SSB mode and that's what 
your 
logging program is going to see.  I think normally a logging program is set up 
to 
either record the radio info when the entry is initially started or when it is 
saved.  At either of those times the radio will be in SSB.  

I think this would have to be a logging program change to detect the TX Mode 
and I 
don't know if there's a CAT command that reports that at this time.  Right now 
I 
think all the software uses whatever mode the RX is in.  If a radio had a 
command 
to report TX mode and the logging program detected that while a log entry was 
still 
open the program could be made to change the mode accordingly.  I wouldn't hold 
my 
breath.  :)


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
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On Mon Jul 21  9:04 , "Dick Hanson"  sent:

>I'm sure, as usual, that I'm among the last to discover this phenomena, and
>I hasten to stress that it is NOT a problem with the K3.
>It should be classified as operator problem, smoke in the cockpit, or
>whatever.
>
>A number of us VHF types asked a long time ago for the ability to be on SSB
>working a pileup and when hearing someone coming back to us on CW to simply
>hit the key and be replying to them on CW. Our wish was granted. The K3
>doesn't break a sweat doing this.
>
>Now consider being in a contest or worse, operating on a dxpedition.
>The logger person must remember to correct the log to be sure the mode was
>correctly logged. Also, it's best not to make the mistake of leaving the
>radio on SSB and making a lot of CW contacts; easy enuff to do unless you're
>using narrow filters. The radio, when linked to the computer, sends mode
>info which will confuse the heck out of any online log scheme you may have.
>These mode errors generate LOTS of emails for folks wanting their contact
>logged properly.
>
>Based on very recent experience at CY0X. 
>73
>Dick, K5AND
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Output Isolation

2008-07-21 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:48:45 -0500, "Tom Childers, N5GE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>I just installed a new direct feedline on my 6m Yagi and hooking it up to
>Antenna 2.  When I tested it I was horrified when I saw infinity SWR on my W1
>power meter.  Then I realized the watt meter was not in the 6m feedline and the
>rig was happily displaying a 1:1 SWR.
>
>Hmm, that means there is output on ANT 1 when ANT 2 is selected.  I switched 
>the
>ANT 1 connection to a dummy load and the W1 was showing .1 watt output from 
>ANT1
>with a 1.2:1 SWR.
>
>Is my Factory rig #806 the only rig with this leakage or is it a known issue? 
>If
>so is there a fix for it?
[snip]

The issue was corrected this weekend when I replaced the shack to tower
feedlines for 6m, 2m and 70cm with LMR600, so the person who suggested it was
coming in on the HF feedline was correct.

73,

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Essential Liberty to 
purchase a little Temporary 
Safety deserve neither 
Liberty nor Safety" 

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[Elecraft] K3 in USB mode, making CW contact, with computer logger

2008-07-21 Thread Dick Hanson
I'm sure, as usual, that I'm among the last to discover this phenomena, and
I hasten to stress that it is NOT a problem with the K3.
It should be classified as operator problem, smoke in the cockpit, or
whatever.

A number of us VHF types asked a long time ago for the ability to be on SSB
working a pileup and when hearing someone coming back to us on CW to simply
hit the key and be replying to them on CW. Our wish was granted. The K3
doesn't break a sweat doing this.

Now consider being in a contest or worse, operating on a dxpedition.
The logger person must remember to correct the log to be sure the mode was
correctly logged. Also, it's best not to make the mistake of leaving the
radio on SSB and making a lot of CW contacts; easy enuff to do unless you're
using narrow filters. The radio, when linked to the computer, sends mode
info which will confuse the heck out of any online log scheme you may have.
These mode errors generate LOTS of emails for folks wanting their contact
logged properly.

Based on very recent experience at CY0X. 
73
Dick, K5AND

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[Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode

2008-07-21 Thread Ralph Tyrrell
Sure glad this was in place.
On a 75 M net my call was not copied correctly.
So I just used the key. NCS thanked me for the correction.

Now I am waiting for the SCRIPTS so I can try PKS31 and RTTY.

This is a GREAT rig.

73, Ty, W1TF, GA, [K3 #696, uC 02.02, d1 01.77], [K1 #1423]




  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

2008-07-21 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan

LB3SA wrote:

My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the US
though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out of
the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was extrememly
small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.

Are - LB3SA
KX1 - K2 - K3 on order


33 x 33 x 40 cm (w d h)

In checked baggage, you'd probably need even more popcorn.

73
LA4RT Jon

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Re: [Elecraft] new K1: no transmit on Band 2

2008-07-21 Thread Don Wilhelm

Elwood,

First thing to try is to listen for the Xtal oscillator in a receiver 
that can tune to 26 MHz.  If the xtal is not oscillating, there is not 
much chance that it will either receive or transmit on 15 meters.  
Connect a short antenna to the receiver and place the end close to th 
eleft side of the 2 band board.


If the xtal is oscillating, next check the receive for 15 meters. (if 
the xtal does not oscillate, fix that first)
Are you certain the receive is actually on 15 meters?  Find a 'weak 
signal' that you know is at 15 meters and do the receive alignment first 
to get the pre-mix bandpass filter and the RF bandpass filter to their 
approximate correct positions, and then try the transmit  alignment again.


If you do not have a real signal generator, you might have a transmitter 
that can transmit into a dummy load - attach a short antenna to the K1 
and put it in the vicinity of the dummy load with the other transmitter 
producing the 15 meter signal.


I hope that helps.  If not, get out your RF Probe (or 'scope) or build 
one from the schematic in the K1 manual appendix (Elecraft sells an RF 
Probe kit for $10).  The with the RF Probe in hand, follow the steps in 
the Transmit Signal Tracing section in the back of the K1 manual.  That 
will isolate the problem to the failing stage.


73,
Don W3FPR

Elwood C. Downey wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am building a K1, 2 band model, 40 and 15m. VFO and Receiver alignment went 
smoothly on both bands, seems to be a
nice receiver. Transmit alignment went fine on Band 1, measured full 5W to 
dummy load. But no joy on Band 2. OUT is
set to 2.0 watts but pressing TUNE mode shows P0.1 always. WPM+ and WPM- has no 
effect. No power at all measured at
dummy load.

Again: receive OK both bands, xmit ok band 1, no power out on band 2.

Suggestions most appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandr Kobranov

Thanks, Greg!

73,
L. -dst-

Greg - AB7R napsal(a):

This exact item is already on the list to be done.



-

73,

Greg - AB7R

Whidbey Island WA

NA-065





On Mon Jul 21  2:03 , Alexandr Kobranov  sent:



Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 


some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 


time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 



some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.


Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 



frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.


This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 



nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 




just idea




73!



Lexa, ok1dst



K3/10 #727






Julian, G4ILO napsal(a):




Brett Howard wrote:



Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it



turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be.  Granted cross



mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you



never know.  Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the



bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of


band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. 




I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you don't want to



use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just don't use it.



We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't need our



radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not supposed



to.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

2008-07-21 Thread Julian, G4ILO



LB3SA wrote:
> 
> My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the
> US though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
> Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out
> of the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
> places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was extrememly
> small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.
> 
I don't have the measurements, but it's probably too big for hand luggage. I
guess it would take up best part of half of a decent sized suitcase.

It is very well packed, with polystyrene chips and bubble wrap. Bear in mind
there are bare PCBs in there that need to be well protected from the normal
rigors of shipping, never mind airport baggage handlers. There are also a
lot of different packages to get mislaid if you open the box and distribute
the bits about a suitcase.

I've heard of laptops and other valuables getting lost in checked baggage,
and the value of the K3 would probably not be compensated by your friend's
travel insurance. Personally, I think it'd be better to pay for shipping by
insured courier, the risk of loss or damage just isn't worth the saving.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread Greg - AB7R
This exact item is already on the list to be done.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Mon Jul 21  2:03 , Alexandr Kobranov  sent:

>Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
>some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
>time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
>some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
>Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
>frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
>This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
>nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 
>
>just idea
>
>73!
>Lexa, ok1dst
>K3/10 #727
>
>
>
>Julian, G4ILO napsal(a):
>> 
>> Brett Howard wrote:
>>> Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it
>>> turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be.  Granted cross
>>> mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you
>>> never know.  Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the
>>> bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of
>>> band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. 
>>>
>> I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you don't want to
>> use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just don't use it.
>> We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't need our
>> radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not supposed
>> to.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread drewko1
I had suggested that the UP/DOWN buttons be made to operate on a
user-selectable contiguous range of memories, much like the Channel
Hopping scan function; but instead of an automatic scan the user would
be able to step through them with UP/DOWN. That way one could program
one's own band sequence: WARC, non-WARC, CW, SSB, etc. or skip bands
for which you have no antenna. You could also reverse the order as one
guy wanted (i.e., UP = longer wavelength, not higher freq). Also, you
could program your SWL bands, which currently do not play well with
BAND UP/DOWN.. 

Of course, I have no idea how feasible it would be to implement this.
But on the surface it seems like it would be a neat feature.

The BAND UP/DOWN control is not necessary at all because the K3 has a
number of convenient memory access functions with which you can get
around. The way it is, UP/DOWN just seems a little too restrictive to
be of much use at all. 

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:03:30 +0200, Lexa, ok1dst wrote:

>Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
>some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
>time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
>some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
>Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
>frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
>This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
>nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 
>
>just idea
>
>73!
>Lexa, ok1dst
>K3/10 #727
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandr Kobranov

Thanks for your input, Mike.
I am really OK with my K3, only looking what can be "better" :-)
As I am using independent RX and TX ports on 144MHz transverter (from 
which a 10GHz are driven next) I can put any-dB attenuator to TX line 
without any effect on Rx (actually what I have now is 10step/10dB 
attenuator in RX line going to RX ANT to fit gain levels with ATT in 
the K3).
But if somebody has 100W version of K3 and need 100mW for driving it 
is another story... yes 30dB/100W attenuator is also solution to 
prevent over driving of transverter input but little bit unpractical.


Still disabling of any other bands then transverter bands seems to be 
better for me :-)
But again I do think it is (may be) good for any usage on HF contest 
or portable opreation where only several bands are reallly needed.
I am not sure now but maybe Yaesu has something like "my bands" on 
ft2k - not sure now.

Maybe it is simple in firmware, maybe not. But my thinking is :-)

73!
L. -dst-

P.S.: I have a second transverter for 2m driven via KRX 1,5mW output 
and there were some problems with power levels etc -  something 
reported as a bug, something solved...


AD6XY napsal(a):

You should really be using the transverter interface so that it is impossible
to have 10W emerging from that port, however, what I have done in the past
with radios without a transverter output, like the FT817, is to fit a 20 dB
attenuator in line. The system for 10GHz usually has more than enough gain
to overcome this by the time the low noise pre-amp is added. In fact, if you
arrange it properly and use a common TX/RX mixer you then do not need TX/RX
switching at the IF side and the dangers of blowing up the transverter by
not correctly switching TX/RX are over. 


Beware of the transverter interface, it appears to have some problems, at
least mine does, at low power levels.

Mike


Alexandr Kobranov wrote:


Ok Arie, most such "ideas" are based on personal experience and feeling.
For example when I am running K3 at i/f for 10GHz during contest using 
ANT output for driving of transverter chain with 100mW out, I am 
little bit afraid when somebody else from our club is running this 
setup not to swith to some HF band by mistake where - if not set to 
0,1W for all bands before -  more power up to 12W (yes, I have 10W 
only version...) can go to ANT and which is able to destroy 
transverter TX input driven by 100mW.
(Sometimes there is also unwanted band-switching during VOX or QSK 
mode changing - yes it is mistake of operator, but...)
So as you can simply see, in my case there is this reason to "disable" 
all others bands from UP/DOWN swithing to in this specific setup.

Maybe I am alone, maybe not :-)

73!
L. -dst-

Arie Kleingeld PA3A napsal(a):

During a WW contest there are many buttons I press and controls I touch.
I do not mind touching a band button an extra time to skip a band when
I'm changing bands.
This is realy the least of my problems...

73,
Arie PA3A



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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?


Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 


just idea

73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/10 #727


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[Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

2008-07-21 Thread LB3SA

My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the US
though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out of
the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was extrememly
small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.

Are - LB3SA
KX1 - K2 - K3 on order
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread alsopb

Let's extend this idea to mode enable/disable.  It's a pain to cycle through
FM/AM just to get from CW/SSB -- since the proper one press direction to go
isn't something that one should clutter their minds with.

Not an original idea, could disable modes in other older rigs.

73 de Brian/K3KO



Alexandr Kobranov wrote:
> 
> Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
> some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
> time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
> some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
> Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
> frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
> This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
> nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 
> 
> just idea
> 
> 73!
> Lexa, ok1dst
> K3/10 #727
> 
> 
> 
> Julian, G4ILO napsal(a):
>> 
>> Brett Howard wrote:
>>> Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it
>>> turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be.  Granted cross
>>> mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you
>>> never know.  Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the
>>> bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of
>>> band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. 
>>>
>> I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you don't want to
>> use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just don't use
>> it.
>> We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't need our
>> radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not supposed
>> to.
>> 
>> -
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>> http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack 
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[Elecraft] K3 #1225

2008-07-21 Thread Jon K Hellan
After a short wait due to some wrong dimension standoffs, K3 #1225 is up and 
runnning.


OrderedFeb 21
Katiegram  July 4 (July 3 U.S. time!)
1st attempted delivery by UPS  July 9
Actually in my hands   July 11
Missing standoffs arrived  July 19
Up and running July 19

LA4RT Jon
Trondheim, Norway
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread AD6XY

You should really be using the transverter interface so that it is impossible
to have 10W emerging from that port, however, what I have done in the past
with radios without a transverter output, like the FT817, is to fit a 20 dB
attenuator in line. The system for 10GHz usually has more than enough gain
to overcome this by the time the low noise pre-amp is added. In fact, if you
arrange it properly and use a common TX/RX mixer you then do not need TX/RX
switching at the IF side and the dangers of blowing up the transverter by
not correctly switching TX/RX are over. 

Beware of the transverter interface, it appears to have some problems, at
least mine does, at low power levels.

Mike


Alexandr Kobranov wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok Arie, most such "ideas" are based on personal experience and feeling.
> For example when I am running K3 at i/f for 10GHz during contest using 
> ANT output for driving of transverter chain with 100mW out, I am 
> little bit afraid when somebody else from our club is running this 
> setup not to swith to some HF band by mistake where - if not set to 
> 0,1W for all bands before -  more power up to 12W (yes, I have 10W 
> only version...) can go to ANT and which is able to destroy 
> transverter TX input driven by 100mW.
> (Sometimes there is also unwanted band-switching during VOX or QSK 
> mode changing - yes it is mistake of operator, but...)
> So as you can simply see, in my case there is this reason to "disable" 
> all others bands from UP/DOWN swithing to in this specific setup.
> Maybe I am alone, maybe not :-)
> 
> 73!
> L. -dst-
> 
> Arie Kleingeld PA3A napsal(a):
>> During a WW contest there are many buttons I press and controls I touch.
>> I do not mind touching a band button an extra time to skip a band when
>> I'm changing bands.
>> This is realy the least of my problems...
>> 
>> 73,
>> Arie PA3A
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Alexandr Kobranov
>> Verzonden: maandag 21 juli 2008 11:04
>> CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Onderwerp: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
>> some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
>> time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
>> some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
>> Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
>> frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
>> This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
>> nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 
>> 
>> just idea
>> 
>> 73!
>> Lexa, ok1dst
>> K3/10 #727
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandr Kobranov


Ok Arie, most such "ideas" are based on personal experience and feeling.
For example when I am running K3 at i/f for 10GHz during contest using 
ANT output for driving of transverter chain with 100mW out, I am 
little bit afraid when somebody else from our club is running this 
setup not to swith to some HF band by mistake where - if not set to 
0,1W for all bands before -  more power up to 12W (yes, I have 10W 
only version...) can go to ANT and which is able to destroy 
transverter TX input driven by 100mW.
(Sometimes there is also unwanted band-switching during VOX or QSK 
mode changing - yes it is mistake of operator, but...)
So as you can simply see, in my case there is this reason to "disable" 
all others bands from UP/DOWN swithing to in this specific setup.

Maybe I am alone, maybe not :-)

73!
L. -dst-

Arie Kleingeld PA3A napsal(a):

During a WW contest there are many buttons I press and controls I touch.
I do not mind touching a band button an extra time to skip a band when
I'm changing bands.
This is realy the least of my problems...

73,
Arie PA3A



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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?


Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 


just idea

73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/10 #727


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RE: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
During a WW contest there are many buttons I press and controls I touch.
I do not mind touching a band button an extra time to skip a band when
I'm changing bands.
This is realy the least of my problems...

73,
Arie PA3A



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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?


Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 

just idea

73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/10 #727


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RE: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A



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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?


Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 

just idea

73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/10 #727


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request

2008-07-21 Thread Stewart Baker
I agree Julian,
Let's use the "Little Gray Cells" between our ears.

If not, there's always EchoLink, Skype etc.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:49:10 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote:
>
>
> Brett Howard wrote:
>
>> Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere
as it
>> turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be.  Granted
cross
>> mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1
but you
>> never know.  Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside
of the
>> bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit
outside of
>> band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good
enhancement.
>>
> I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you
don't want to
> use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just
don't use it.
> We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't
need our
> radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not
supposed
> to.
>
> -
> Julian, G4ILO
> http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack
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[Elecraft] K3: band enable/disable option ?

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandr Kobranov
Maybe we can talk about BAND ENABLE config option which can disable 
some band(-s) from band UP/DOWN selection for example WARC bands in 
time on some WW Contest or all HF bands during transverter mode or 
some personal preferencies as 160 - 80 - 30m fast switching only etc.
Coming back to "enable" status for some band can be done via direct 
frq entry and then BAND ENABLE in config.
This enable/disable idea is only about band UP/DOWN button behavior 
nothing about mode or tuning/freq input/computer control 


just idea

73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/10 #727



Julian, G4ILO napsal(a):


Brett Howard wrote:

Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it
turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be.  Granted cross
mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you
never know.  Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the
bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of
band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. 


I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you don't want to
use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just don't use it.
We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't need our
radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not supposed
to.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW in SSB mode option to disable on 60m feature request

2008-07-21 Thread Julian, G4ILO


Brett Howard wrote:
> 
> Personally I'd rather have the ability to do CW in SSB anywhere as it
> turns out to be a good safety feature if ever need be.  Granted cross
> mode is more of a safety option when we're talking about a KX1 but you
> never know.  Personally I feel that not disallowing TX outside of the
> bands (or making things configurable so that one can transmit outside of
> band (with just a warning if your OOB) would be a good enhancement. 
> 
I agree. I don't see any reason to disable anything. If you don't want to
use something, or aren't allowed to use something, then just don't use it.
We're licensed amateurs, we know what the rules are, we don't need our
radios playing nanny to make sure we don't do anything we're not supposed
to.

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