Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Alexander Ponomarenko

GM,

yes of course Mike, I think any secondary school student can calculate 
it little difference.

Besides, new resistors on top of old - it's not aesthetically. :)

73!
Alex UR5LAM

Mike Harris wrote:

G'day,

I think placing the 51 ohm resistors on top of the existing SMD's was just 
for convenience.  It makes little difference to the final result - 51 ohm 
vs. 45 - 49 ohm.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

|
| ri
|
| Alexander Ponomarenko-5 wrote:
| >
| > GA,
| >
| > today I has same time for install K3-AF-mod (second part with R19 and
| > R20). It was easy job. Yes, it's really worked! Now line-out are 
worked

| > better! Here is plots "before" and "after" mod.
| >
| > Line-OUT before replaced R19&R20
| >
|
| Priwet Alex!
|
| I believe you have made a mistake.  The 51 ohm resistor should be placed
| ***ON TOP*** of the existing SMD resistors (i.e. in parallel with the
| existing resistors and  NOT replacing them).  Please read the 
instructions

| more carefully.
|
| 73,  Bill  W4ZV
  

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[Elecraft] K3 and MixW PSK31

2008-12-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Thanks for the replies and settings etc. All to no avail sadly. The K3 will
work on CW but stubbornly refuses to TX on DATA A either RTTY or PSK31.

This was a factory built unit and if I was located near Aptos it would be on
it's way back to be checked out fully, sadly I live a little ways beyond
California.

Oh well, who wants to play with a computer when you can find a human to
converse with...so no more data stuff for me, life is way too short to waste
time playing with 4 data programs that simply don't work with this
particular K3.

Regards,
Gary
I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory
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[Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-09 Thread wayne burdick
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.72 (with DSP rev 1.98) is now 
available. Anyone who has the KDVR3 (Digital Voice Recorder) installed 
will need this revision to use the DVR. We'll be making further 
improvements to DVR functions in later releases. Full details appear 
below.


Please send any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For 
instructions on how to load beta firmware, please see:


  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 2.72 / DSP 1.98, 12-9-2008

Misc. Changes:

* LINE OUT INCLUDES TX AUDIO: LINE OUT (nor menu setting) now includes
transmit sidetone and speech/data monitor audio.

* IMPROVED TX PASSBAND FLATNESS FOR PSK31: When operating in PSK31
mode via a PC, high-pitched audio tones are no longer attenuated more 
than

low tones.

Support for Digital Voice Recorder option (KDVR3):

Note: The following information is more accurate than the DVR 
instructions in the

K3 rev D owner’s manual.

* DVR ICON: The DVR icon (dual arrows--above the S-meter) turns on 
whenever
the DVR is in use. The icon flashes slowly during all record 
operations, and quickly

during play.

* DVR TX MESSAGES: Message record, play and repeat are functional. 
(Message
chaining will be added in a subsequent release.) To start voice message 
record,

tap REC, then tap M1-M4. Record will start immediately. Tap M1-M4 again
to stop recording. To play a voice message, tap M1-M4. To repeat a 
voice message
(e.g., a CQ), *hold* M1-M4 rather than tap. Message play or repeat can 
be

cancelled at any time by tapping REC.

* DVR RX LOOP:  Hold AF REC to start receive-audio recording. Hold AF 
REC
again to stop record. Up to 90 seconds of audio can be recorded; beyond 
this,
earlier audio will be overwritten. Hold AF PLAY to start playback; 
press any
switch to stop. VFO B will show the playback position in seconds, 
relative

to the most-recently recorded audio segment. During PLAY, you can move
forward/backward through RX audio loop buffer by rotating VFO B. An 
asterisk
(*) beside the seconds counter shows the extent  of the most recently 
recorded
segment. Note: It is OK to record received audio continuously; this 
might be

useful as a way of catching audio events that you wish to examine later.
Record will continue even if you transmit. However, at present, silence 
is recorded

for the duration of any transmission.

* DVR RX LOOP PLAY IN TX MODE. First, enter voice transmit mode by 
holding
PTT or tapping XMIT. Then hold AF PLAY to start playback, and press any 
switch
to stop. CMP (speech compression) is automatically disabled. Note: 
Playback

volume of the RX loop buffer during TX mode is not yet adjustable.

For software developers:

* VOX STATUS ADDED TO IC CMD (separate flags for CW keying ‘VOX’
and voice/data audio VOX).


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[Elecraft] Got a Katiegram

2008-12-09 Thread Gary Smith
Apparently my K3 is in the transitional stage and is about to be 
delivered. Definitely the nicest news I heard today! 

Still need to decide which CW filters but it seems like from what 
I've heard from my questions, a 500 filter should be in there.

I do contest and I do chase DX, the fainter the signal, the better to 
dig out & copy.

Gary
KA1J


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[Elecraft] K3 Audio Problem

2008-12-09 Thread BOB PHILBROOK
My DSP board failed 4 months after the kit K3 #818 was assembled.

I had no audio anywhere.  The S meter showed almost full scale.  The receiver 
resting current went from .85 to 1.01 amps.  Replacement KIO3 boards did not 
cure the problem.  Gary at Elecraft suggested it might be the DSP board if the 
KIO3 boards did not solve the problem.

I sent the rig to Elecraft for warranty work and it was the DSP board.  Great 
service from Elecraft and Gary by the way.

Since the QST review of the K3/100 also had an audio failure along with a few 
reported on the reflector, I wonder if there is a design/reliability problem 
here?

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Re: [Elecraft] - Mode Components - good site, good company

2008-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I would like to reiterate my previous statements that Mode Components  
are a really good company and as far as can be determined, their web  
site does not contain malware nor link to a site that does.
For those in the UK and probably the EU, their supply of the AF mod is  
a great benefit and a lot cheaper, given the US exchange rate and  
shipping costs.
I would have brought mine from there had I known about it sooner and  
been able to cancel my order at Aptos (which shipped just before they  
got my mail).


Chris (the owner) is up to his eyes in orders (not just K3 mod kits)  
and is unable to reply to previous comments about his site due to  
pressure of work. Suffice it to say, this is a long established  
company providing a great service to hams and like minded folks. I  
would recommend you take a look - http://www.modecomponents.co.uk/

No affiliation except as a satisfied customer.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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writing a book. -Marcus Tullius Cicero, statesman, orator and writer
(106-43 BC)

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Aha! Thanks for catching that Bill. I'll clarify the procedure. 

Replacing the SMDs is fine. The value difference is not significant. The
intent was to make the mod as easy as possible for everyone. But the
instructions should be crystal clear, Hi!

Ron AC7AC

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Bill W4ZV wrote:
> 
> ri
> 
> Alexander Ponomarenko-5 wrote:
>> 
>> GA,
>> 
>> today I has same time for install K3-AF-mod (second part with R19 and 
>> R20). It was easy job. Yes, it's really worked! Now line-out are worked 
>> better! Here is plots "before" and "after" mod.
>> 
>> Line-OUT before replaced R19&R20
>> 
> 
> Priwet Alex!
> 
> I believe you have made a mistake.  The 51 ohm resistor should be placed
> ***ON TOP*** of the existing SMD resistors (i.e. in parallel with the
> existing resistors and  NOT replacing them).  Please read the instructions
> more carefully.  
> 
> 73,  Bill  W4ZV
> 

Alex I believe I see what caused your misunderstanding.  On the Main Mod
Kits page, it states:

"Line Out Change: 

KIO3 Main Board: R19/20 (input to line-out transformers) changed from 600 to
51 Ohms to increase line-out low distortion output levels."

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm 

But on page 8 of the actual mod instructions it says:

"Line Audio Output Modification

This modification reduces the value of two resistors in the left and right
channel line audio outputs on the KIO3 board by
adding 51-ohm resistors in parallel with them. The existing resistors are
surface mount types. Since the new resistors are
wired in parallel with them, it is not necessary to remove the existing SMD
units."

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3%20AF%20Stage%20Upgrade%20Instructions%20R
ev%20A.pdf

As has been noted by others before, I'm not sure why Elecraft did not
suggest replacing the existing 600 ohm resistors with 47 ohms (parallel
combination of 600 and 51).  Perhaps they were concerned with the problem of
potentially lifting the board traces when removing the 600 ohm resistors.

The documentation on the main mods page (1st link above) needs to be
corrected.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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[Elecraft] For Sale: K3/100 antenna tuner and...

2008-12-09 Thread Dave
Hi- 
 I will sell one of my K3's, I have two. 
 The one I will sell is factory wired with the auto antenna tuner and power 
amplifier, accessory 500 Hz, 200 Hz CW filters, the FM filter and DC power cord 
and manual. Non smoking environment, not a scratch. $2550 shipped to the lower 
48. Original packing. No mic as I only op CW. Please reply off ist. 
 73 de Dave in NH 
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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 Installation ; ERR VCO 00227

2008-12-09 Thread ww2r
I had a similar issue with mine last weekend, but the error code on the sub
vco was 00374

I swapped the sub and main vco resulting  in the error repeating on the main
vco

It appeared to be a board issue. So I called Aptos monday who advised me to
open up the toroid on the vco board and spread the turns slightly.

Been on a road trip since so havent had chance to try yet

Dave

ww2r



Message: 8
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:50:43 -0500
From: George Sereikas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Elecraft] KRX3 Installation ; ERR VCO 00227
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

After installing the latest firmware, I installed the KRX3 that I just
received yesterday. All went smoothly until I went to Calibrate KsYN3
(p 43 in KRX3 Manual). I keep getting ERR 00227 VCO. I also received
the ERR 00228 VCO one time.

Any ideas where I might look to solve this issue?

Thanks!

George
K2WO



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[Elecraft] Noisey Fan

2008-12-09 Thread WN3R, Dick
I had a defective fan in my factory built K3.  Sounded like an airplane was
on the desk.  After determining which one was bad, I received a replacement
immediately.  Great Service!!!
 
73, Dick, WN3R
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[Elecraft] {Elecraft] Re: Dodgy Site

2008-12-09 Thread David Lankshear
G4ILO said:
Given that web hosting is available for well under a tenner in the UK from
reputable hosts like 1+1, I don't know why someone would penny-pinch to the 
extent of using a dodgy free web host for their business site.

Ah, I would have been disappointed if you hadn't commented, Julian.

It's Chris's choice who hosts his longstanding website; FYI the hosting is run 
by another amateur, who's a friend of his.

The site is sound, otherwise he'd have been out of business long ago, so rather 
than pick over the bones, why not look at the meat of the issue?

Derogatory comments make me wish I'd never pestered him to provide a little 
Xmas deal for amateurs this side of the pond.

Season's Greetings.

DaveL  G3TJP___
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Exactly.

Either way is OK.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft


Mike Harris wrote:

G'day,

I think placing the 51 ohm resistors on top of the existing SMD's was just 
for convenience.  It makes little difference to the final result - 51 ohm 
vs. 45 - 49 ohm.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

  

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Re: K3 PA Temp Max (was Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?)

2008-12-09 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We're good to at least 85C (which is still below the max temp for the 
transistors) where the firmware will automatically drop the 100W amp out 
of line to protect it.


You can run all day below that level.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ


Jeff Wandling W7BRS via K3List wrote:


I'm glad someone brought this up.

My question is:  What is the safe temp range for the KPA3?  I can get 
the PA temp up to 56C at full power (100W).  Fans are of course on 
full-bore at this point and I still can barely hear them.


At what PA Temp do I need to be concerned?
I'm using the K3/100 with the KAT3

-jeff


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML


Only for testing during installation - you're supposed to change
CONFIG:KPA3 to "nor" after that, and the speed is automatically changed
as required.

Even on the full speed test setting, mine really doesn't make much
noise - certainly not what I'd describe as a "whine"...

~Iain


David Wilburn wrote:
Wasn't there a menu setting that set what speed the fans would run at?   
Remember something from the assembly instructions.  Is it possible these 
folks have a different setting?


Dave Wilburn
NM4M

Joe Planisky wrote:

I stand corrected.  There are apparently a lot of quiet K3s out there.

I wonder if the quiet fans are from a different manufacturer?

The fans in my K3 are made by UTEC:
Series 8162 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND5
Series 8163 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND2

The replacement fans (from Elecraft) were identical.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

There were a number of comments among the first customers that the 
fans were

so quiet they couldn't tell if they were running without turning the rig
around and looking at them.

That's how mine are too (S/N 10 - early pre-production K3) and I am very
sensitive to fan noise. On the rare occasions my K3 is actually 
assembled an
on the operating desk, it's close to a wood paneled wall and I'm not 
aware
of them even though there's not a single other fan our source of 
noise in

the room.

Indeed, I sometimes can't hear them running when I'm working on the 
rig on

the bench.

After taking a number of complaints about the little "whizzer" fan in 
the

K2/100, I believe that was Wayne's intent ;-)

It sure sounds like something is quite different now. I'd recommend also
posting a note on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about it.

Ron AC7AC


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I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:


That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect
any noise.
I still think there is something else wrong.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:


I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of
the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the
corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the
fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the
room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Bill W4ZV



Bill W4ZV wrote:
> 
> ri
> 
> Alexander Ponomarenko-5 wrote:
>> 
>> GA,
>> 
>> today I has same time for install K3-AF-mod (second part with R19 and 
>> R20). It was easy job. Yes, it's really worked! Now line-out are worked 
>> better! Here is plots "before" and "after" mod.
>> 
>> Line-OUT before replaced R19&R20
>> 
> 
> Priwet Alex!
> 
> I believe you have made a mistake.  The 51 ohm resistor should be placed
> ***ON TOP*** of the existing SMD resistors (i.e. in parallel with the
> existing resistors and  NOT replacing them).  Please read the instructions
> more carefully.  
> 
> 73,  Bill  W4ZV
> 

Alex I believe I see what caused your misunderstanding.  On the Main Mod
Kits page, it states:

"Line Out Change: 

KIO3 Main Board: R19/20 (input to line-out transformers) changed from 600 to
51 Ohms to increase line-out low distortion output levels."

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm 

But on page 8 of the actual mod instructions it says:

"Line Audio Output Modification

This modification reduces the value of two resistors in the left and right
channel line audio outputs on the KIO3 board by
adding 51-ohm resistors in parallel with them. The existing resistors are
surface mount types. Since the new resistors are
wired in parallel with them, it is not necessary to remove the existing SMD
units."

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3%20AF%20Stage%20Upgrade%20Instructions%20Rev%20A.pdf

As has been noted by others before, I'm not sure why Elecraft did not
suggest replacing the existing 600 ohm resistors with 47 ohms (parallel
combination of 600 and 51).  Perhaps they were concerned with the problem of
potentially lifting the board traces when removing the 600 ohm resistors.

The documentation on the main mods page (1st link above) needs to be
corrected.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

I think placing the 51 ohm resistors on top of the existing SMD's was just 
for convenience.  It makes little difference to the final result - 51 ohm 
vs. 45 - 49 ohm.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

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|
| ri
|
| Alexander Ponomarenko-5 wrote:
| >
| > GA,
| >
| > today I has same time for install K3-AF-mod (second part with R19 and
| > R20). It was easy job. Yes, it's really worked! Now line-out are 
worked
| > better! Here is plots "before" and "after" mod.
| >
| > Line-OUT before replaced R19&R20
| >
|
| Priwet Alex!
|
| I believe you have made a mistake.  The 51 ohm resistor should be placed
| ***ON TOP*** of the existing SMD resistors (i.e. in parallel with the
| existing resistors and  NOT replacing them).  Please read the 
instructions
| more carefully.
|
| 73,  Bill  W4ZV
|
| -- 
| View this message in context: 
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| Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
For a short period the wrong instructions sent with the current type of
fans. 

 

If you're interested to see if you installed them correctly you can download
the current KPA3 manual from the Elecraft web site.  I doubt if the
installation could have an effect on the noise since you checked and nothing
was touching the blades. 

 

Ron AC7AC

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Missouri Guy
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

 

Thanks Tom (and several others too!), I'll contact Elecraft.  

Screws tight, but not over-tightened.  Finger 

guards centered.  Fans move air in the right

direction.  Also, nothing touching the blades.  

 

I did notice that the instructions said to install some bushings at the 

corners of the fans.  My fans were made so that "bushings" 

were already part of the fan and bushings were not in the kitcould 

be a change in supplier or fan model.  Also, the instructions (including

errata) didn't apply to my fan model.  Interesting...and it's got to

be a tough job for anyone to keep up with suppliers and all the details

that go into producing these kits!  My k3's serial is 1719.

 

I just checked the fans again using the TECH-MD PA-FN1

thru PA-FN4, and yes, they do "whine" at all speeds, although

sounding different of course with varying degrees of "whine".

Listening very carefully when they power-down, I could swear 

that the fan bearings and/or brushes (if there are any) sound rough.

 

Thanks,

Charlie, N0TT

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread David Wilburn
Wasn't there a menu setting that set what speed the fans would run at? 
  Remember something from the assembly instructions.  Is it possible 
these folks have a different setting?


Dave Wilburn
NM4M

Joe Planisky wrote:

I stand corrected.  There are apparently a lot of quiet K3s out there.

I wonder if the quiet fans are from a different manufacturer?

The fans in my K3 are made by UTEC:
Series 8162 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND5
Series 8163 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND2

The replacement fans (from Elecraft) were identical.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

There were a number of comments among the first customers that the 
fans were

so quiet they couldn't tell if they were running without turning the rig
around and looking at them.

That's how mine are too (S/N 10 - early pre-production K3) and I am very
sensitive to fan noise. On the rare occasions my K3 is actually 
assembled an
on the operating desk, it's close to a wood paneled wall and I'm not 
aware

of them even though there's not a single other fan our source of noise in
the room.

Indeed, I sometimes can't hear them running when I'm working on the 
rig on

the bench.

After taking a number of complaints about the little "whizzer" fan in the
K2/100, I believe that was Wayne's intent ;-)

It sure sounds like something is quite different now. I'd recommend also
posting a note on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about it.

Ron AC7AC


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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:


That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect
any noise.
I still think there is something else wrong.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)

On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:


I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of
the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the
corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the
fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the
room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.




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Re: [Elecraft] Six-meter Antenna Tuner

2008-12-09 Thread W6SX Hank Garretson


Thank you to all who responded, both on and off list, to my 
request.  First thing I'll try is my two commercial tuners with 
roller inductors.  As suggested, they just might work.  If not, I 
have found link-coupled designs in Bill Orr's 1967 Radio Handbook and 
the 1949 ARRL Radio Amateur's Handbook (cover price $2.00!) that 
should be easy to scale to six meters.  Thanks everyone.



73,

Hank, W6SX

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
Please excuse my ignorance, but I have seen various references to the AF mod 
and I am not sure what it is supposed to do.  Also, where is it located?  I 
have the second receiver installed and I have a bad feeling that in order to 
get to it I'll have to tear things apart if I decide to do it.  Any info would 
be appreciated.

Bruce-W8FU

-Original Message-
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Ponomarenko
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

GA,

today I has same time for install K3-AF-mod (second part with R19 and 
R20). It was easy job. Yes, it's really worked! Now line-out are worked 
better! Here is plots "before" and "after" mod.

Line-OUT before replaced R19&R20: 
http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=33360

And AFTER:
http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=33361

And new R19&R20 on board :) :
http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=33362

Guys from Clifton-labs are clever!

73!
Alex UR5LAM

Dr. James C. Garland wrote:

> The second part of the kit involves shunting two resistors with 51 ohm 
> resistors,  and here also Elecraft gives two options: one is to solder 
> 1/8w through-hole resistors onto the IO board, and the other is to 
> solder two tiny SMT (surface mount ) resistors piggy-back onto existing 
> SMT resistors. The kit comes with both kinds of resistors.  I elected to 
> do the SMT version of the mod, and here I’d recommend that owners opt 
> for the other method. I don’t see any advantage to doing the  SMT 
> version. It takes a very steady hand, a very small-tipped soldering 
> iron, and very good eyesight to piggy-back the two SMT resistors into 
> the circuit, and I just don’t see the reason for the hassle. It would 
> take five minutes to install the through-hole resistors, and the result 
> looks quite clean and neat.  I’d recommend also that Elecraft delete the 
> SMT option from the instructions. Took me about 30 mins to install the 
> SMT resistors, probably about half that time to install the through-hole 
> ones.
> 
>  
> 
> 73,
> 
>  
> 
> Jim W8ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Bill W4ZV

ri

Alexander Ponomarenko-5 wrote:
> 
> GA,
> 
> today I has same time for install K3-AF-mod (second part with R19 and 
> R20). It was easy job. Yes, it's really worked! Now line-out are worked 
> better! Here is plots "before" and "after" mod.
> 
> Line-OUT before replaced R19&R20
> 

Priwet Alex!

I believe you have made a mistake.  The 51 ohm resistor should be placed
***ON TOP*** of the existing SMD resistors (i.e. in parallel with the
existing resistors and  NOT replacing them).  Please read the instructions
more carefully.  

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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[Elecraft] Filter problem, Invoice 53756

2008-12-09 Thread W5UN
I received the replacement 250 Hz 8 pole replacement filter from 
Elecraft, and installed it as instructed. This did not fix the 
problem. I can hear noise as if the receiver is working, but no 
signals, same as before. Please help.


Dave Blaschke, W5UN


Previously I wrote:

>I will ask here before calling Elecraft.

>First, I have the following filters installed on the main rcvr, all 
8 pole: 6 Khz, 2.8kHz, 1.8 kHz, 400 Hz, 250 Hz.


There are two issues:

1. When I turn my 250 Hz filter on in config, and then select that 
filter (which is FL5 here)I can hear noise coming through but no cw 
signals come through.


Dave, W5UN

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re: [Elecraft] Variable filters for K3

2008-12-09 Thread Mike Scott
>Is there any news on when the variable filters might be available? Tnx
& 73 Paul NN5G

This is speculation on my part but I suspect that the variable filter is a
bigger challenge than originally envisioned. The K3 is in a different
league, it may not be possible to produce a variable crystal filter and
still hold the K3 specifications. 

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Upgrade Mod

2008-12-09 Thread Alexander Ponomarenko

GA,

today I has same time for install K3-AF-mod (second part with R19 and 
R20). It was easy job. Yes, it's really worked! Now line-out are worked 
better! Here is plots "before" and "after" mod.


Line-OUT before replaced R19&R20: 
http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=33360


And AFTER:
http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=33361

And new R19&R20 on board :) :
http://forum.cqham.ru/download.php?id=33362

Guys from Clifton-labs are clever!

73!
Alex UR5LAM

Dr. James C. Garland wrote:

The second part of the kit involves shunting two resistors with 51 ohm 
resistors,  and here also Elecraft gives two options: one is to solder 
1/8w through-hole resistors onto the IO board, and the other is to 
solder two tiny SMT (surface mount ) resistors piggy-back onto existing 
SMT resistors. The kit comes with both kinds of resistors.  I elected to 
do the SMT version of the mod, and here I’d recommend that owners opt 
for the other method. I don’t see any advantage to doing the  SMT 
version. It takes a very steady hand, a very small-tipped soldering 
iron, and very good eyesight to piggy-back the two SMT resistors into 
the circuit, and I just don’t see the reason for the hassle. It would 
take five minutes to install the through-hole resistors, and the result 
looks quite clean and neat.  I’d recommend also that Elecraft delete the 
SMT option from the instructions. Took me about 30 mins to install the 
SMT resistors, probably about half that time to install the through-hole 
ones.


 


73,

 


Jim W8ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 Installation ; ERR VCO 00227

2008-12-09 Thread gdaught6
> >> After installing the latest firmware, I installed the KRX3 that I just  
> >> received yesterday. All went smoothly until I went to Calibrate KsYN3  
> >> (p 43 in KRX3 Manual). I keep getting ERR 00227 VCO. I also received  
> >> the ERR 00228 VCO one time.
> 
> Before calling Elecraft, you could try pulling the synthesizer, check 
> that nothing could be shorting to the shield and then reinstalling it.
> 
> After I installed my KRX3, my original synthesizer was giving me similar 
> error codes. In an act of wild desperation, I pulled it and plugged it 
> back in, adding two washers (one left and one right, if I remember 
> correctly) so that it was tad further away from the shielding. Since 
> then I have not had any more problems.

I encountered a similar problem when calibrating KSYN3 for the subreceiver:

ERR DSEE 027979

I turned it off, and back on.  I set the sub filters, and redid the auxiliary 
KSYN3 
calibration.  All went well, and everything seems to work.

A couple of times when I've had problems right after a configuration or 
calibration 
change, turning the K3 off and back on has cured whatever the problem was.  
Nuffin 
like a cold reboot!

73,



George T Daughters, K6GT
CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
October 3-4, 2009


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[Elecraft] RE: K3 Article on Elecraft Kits

2008-12-09 Thread Terry Schieler
Very nice article Chuck!  You had told me you could read and write and I'm
sorry I ever doubted you. :o)

Terry, W0FM



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[Elecraft] K3 Diversity Rx and antennas

2008-12-09 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS via K3List
I'm just waiting for the lovely lady at Elecraft to send me the gram for the 
sub-rx.


In the mean time I'm contemplating the 2nd wire antenna to hoist up for 
diversity Rx.  My QTH is surrounded by dense trees, cedar 120+ ft tall.


Think planet Endor, ewoks, and pesky storm troopers around every corner.

Now for the 2nd wire antenna, I was envisioning a Beverage because I can run 
1000' wire over 7acres in a loop within 30' off the ground without getting 
snagged by the branches.  Over 30' then I run into problems with very dense 
branches acting as barbs in the wrong direction preventing wire from going up.


My main Tx antenna is a wire dipole at 25m cut and somewhat even on each side 
for 80-20m work.  I'm tempted to take it down and make a new one for 160m + 
80m-20m work.


Anyway, the question is:  for Diversity Rx, would a 15-25' off the ground 
Beverage be suitable?  Or, does diversity work best if the polarization is 
opposite, -- among the variables involved with wire antennas, what variable to 
I look for to increase the benefit of having diversity Rx?


Reply directly and I'll consolidate the responses here on the list.


-jeff

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K3 PA Temp Max (was Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?)

2008-12-09 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS via K3List


I'm glad someone brought this up.

My question is:  What is the safe temp range for the KPA3?  I can get the PA 
temp up to 56C at full power (100W).  Fans are of course on full-bore at this 
point and I still can barely hear them.


At what PA Temp do I need to be concerned?

I'm using the K3/100 with the KAT3

-jeff


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 compression settings

2008-12-09 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Yes, the noise gate is also disabled in data modes.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
---

Bill W5WVO wrote:

I believe compression and equalization are both automatically
disabled when in a data mode (including DATA A). Not sure about
the new noise gating feature, but I would think for consistency,
it would be disabled in data modes as well.
  

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[Elecraft] K3 Large tuning knob for VFO B

2008-12-09 Thread John Buck
I have installed a standard main tuning knob on VFO B for the second 
receiver on my K3. 

The grand purpose of this is to get an equal feel for VFO A and B for 
tuning the second receiver.  It works well for this purpose.


The front panel symmetry does not look as nice to me as with the 
original small knob.  It covers the Text Dec and B lettering but does 
not interfere with any controls.  It hangs about 1/4 inch below the 
panel but clears the table by 1/4 inch with the tilt bail closed.  I 
think I will get used to the appearance.  I like the K3 knobs and do not 
feel the need for a Yaesu or other knob.


Aloha,
John KH7T



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[Elecraft]Re:M0DXF, Dodgy Site

2008-12-09 Thread David Lankshear
David, M0DXF, your post under the above heading is rather confusing, padded as 
it is with quotes, quips and comment to yourself.  Furthermore, Chris is 
bewildered by what you sent to him, as he's asked me what the heck is going on. 
 Bear in mind he's not like some on here, glued to the Elecraft reflector.  
It's something that's quite new to him and as a busy guy with no Elecraft gear 
himsef (shame), the posts on here hold no interest for him.  On that basis, I 
suggest that if you wish to communicate with him, put it in a plain email 
rather than an extract of the reflector, which starts with "Hello Suspicious".  
IMO, that's just not on!

I gather, from your post on here and G4AON's direct email to me, the problem is 
with a LINK FROM the site and not the site itself.  Thus, I think it's fair to 
say that the site, which is successfully accessed by his customer base, holds 
no risk in itself.  I strongly suggest that this topic should not be aired here 
on the reflector and if you wish to discuss matters, email either me or Chris 
with text he can understand.

When he emailed me about the message he'd received, he mentioned that he'd 
already had some sales of the mod kits, posted out today.

73  Dave L  G3TJP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Missouri Guy
Thanks Tom (and several others too!), I'll contact Elecraft.  
Screws tight, but not over-tightened.  Finger 
guards centered.  Fans move air in the right
direction.  Also, nothing touching the blades.  

I did notice that the instructions said to install some bushings at the 
corners of the fans.  My fans were made so that "bushings" 
were already part of the fan and bushings were not in the kitcould 
be a change in supplier or fan model.  Also, the instructions (including
errata) didn't apply to my fan model.  Interesting...and it's got to
be a tough job for anyone to keep up with suppliers and all the details
that go into producing these kits!  My k3's serial is 1719.

I just checked the fans again using the TECH-MD PA-FN1
thru PA-FN4, and yes, they do "whine" at all speeds, although
sounding different of course with varying degrees of "whine".
Listening very carefully when they power-down, I could swear 
that the fan bearings and/or brushes (if there are any) sound rough.

Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Toby Deinhardt

Wow, I have never heard my fans, not a peep. I have seen them run and felt
the air flow out the back but sound, no. 


I regularly run around to the backside of the table to check that 
haven't been stolen or dropped off or... ;-)


I can confirm that my K3's blowers are barely audible, as others have 
also reported.


vy 73 de toby
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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 Installation ; ERR VCO 00227

2008-12-09 Thread Toby Deinhardt
After installing the latest firmware, I installed the KRX3 that I just  
received yesterday. All went smoothly until I went to Calibrate KsYN3  
(p 43 in KRX3 Manual). I keep getting ERR 00227 VCO. I also received  
the ERR 00228 VCO one time.


Before calling Elecraft, you could try pulling the synthesizer, check 
that nothing could be shorting to the shield and then reinstalling it.


After I installed my KRX3, my original synthesizer was giving me similar 
error codes. In an act of wild desperation, I pulled it and plugged it 
back in, adding two washers (one left and one right, if I remember 
correctly) so that it was tad further away from the shielding. Since 
then I have not had any more problems.


I assume that it was moved a tiny bit closer to the shielding while I 
installed the KRX3, bringing it close enough to make contact. The two 
washers I added were in the installation manual for the KRX3's VFO but 
not in my (early) construction manual for the basic K3 (#67).


Hope this helps.

vy 73 de toby


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML



Adam Koczarski wrote:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)



I had to look, or feel, to see that mine were running during the build test
of the fans. Very quite even at the forth setting.


Speaking of which, you can do that any time - CONFIG:KPA3 = Fn1 thru Fn4
(set it back to "nor" when you're done).

With everything else quiet (AF gain turned down), I can definitely hear
that the fans are running on Fn2 and up, but it's mostly fast-moving air
I can hear - not whine from the motor or anything. If I had headphones
on, noise coming through the external speaker, or even much other 
ambient noise in the shack (e.g. computer), I don't think I'd notice the

fan noise at all - it's definitely never bothered me in normal
operation.

~Iain / N6ML

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky
I find that at an ambient temp. of about 17C, 75 W into a dummy load,  
it takes about a minute and a half of CW at 18 WPM to raise the PA  
temp from 23C to 37C, the temp at which the fans come on at the  
slowest speed.


73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:

The fan noise depends on the fan setting, which in turn depends not  
only on

the duty cycle but also on the ambient temperature.

On mine (#1595), FAN1 is almost inaudible (almost completely drowned  
out by
the noise of my computer's fan), FAN2 is audible but not obtrusive,  
and FAN3
and FAN4 get progressively louder and more noticeable. During  
operation, I
don't believe I have ever heard them get beyond FAN2, and that only  
in data
modes with relatively long transmissions. In CW, the speed has never  
gotten

above FAN1, even while running stations in a contest.

Ambient temperature may have a lot to do with it, though. The fan  
speed
depends on PA temp, and if the ambient temperature starts out high,  
it takes
less heating to reach the next set point. The temperature in my  
shack right
now is a balmy 15C (that's just about 60F), so my K3 has to work  
pretty hard
just to get up to the FAN1 set point. In summer, when even with A/C  
running
it is about 10 degrees C warmer in here, I expect the fans will be  
more

noticeable.

73,
Rich VE3KI

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Jack Regan
No noise here. I often run barefoot with no amp, no headphones, no computer,
and the rig is in a corner!  

Jack AE6GC K3-100 Kit #1433


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Adam Koczarski

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Prior
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:52 AM
> To: elecraft
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?
> 
> Joe
> 
> I wonder why the part
> numbers
> are different?
> 

Maybe because the power lead lengths are different on the two fans??

Adam - KA7ARK


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread K9ZTV

Serial No. 21 . . . absolutely zero fan noise.

Kent  K9ZTV




Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

There were a number of comments among the first customers that the fans were
so quiet they couldn't tell if they were running without turning the rig
around and looking at them. 


That's how mine are too (S/N 10 - early pre-production K3) and I am very
sensitive to fan noise. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Richard Ferch
The fan noise depends on the fan setting, which in turn depends not only on
the duty cycle but also on the ambient temperature.

On mine (#1595), FAN1 is almost inaudible (almost completely drowned out by
the noise of my computer's fan), FAN2 is audible but not obtrusive, and FAN3
and FAN4 get progressively louder and more noticeable. During operation, I
don't believe I have ever heard them get beyond FAN2, and that only in data
modes with relatively long transmissions. In CW, the speed has never gotten
above FAN1, even while running stations in a contest.

Ambient temperature may have a lot to do with it, though. The fan speed
depends on PA temp, and if the ambient temperature starts out high, it takes
less heating to reach the next set point. The temperature in my shack right
now is a balmy 15C (that's just about 60F), so my K3 has to work pretty hard
just to get up to the FAN1 set point. In summer, when even with A/C running
it is about 10 degrees C warmer in here, I expect the fans will be more
noticeable.

73,
Rich VE3KI

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
Joe

My fans are Utec too, same part numbers too.  I wonder why the part numbers
are different?

73 Stephen G4SJP



On 09/12/2008 18:43, "Joe Planisky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I stand corrected.  There are apparently a lot of quiet K3s out there.
> 
> I wonder if the quiet fans are from a different manufacturer?
> 
> The fans in my K3 are made by UTEC:
> Series 8162 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND5
> Series 8163 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND2
> 
> The replacement fans (from Elecraft) were identical.
> 
> 73
> --
> Joe KB8AP



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky

I stand corrected.  There are apparently a lot of quiet K3s out there.

I wonder if the quiet fans are from a different manufacturer?

The fans in my K3 are made by UTEC:
Series 8162 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND5
Series 8163 P/N AT6015L-12L2B ND2

The replacement fans (from Elecraft) were identical.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

There were a number of comments among the first customers that the  
fans were
so quiet they couldn't tell if they were running without turning the  
rig

around and looking at them.

That's how mine are too (S/N 10 - early pre-production K3) and I am  
very
sensitive to fan noise. On the rare occasions my K3 is actually  
assembled an
on the operating desk, it's close to a wood paneled wall and I'm not  
aware
of them even though there's not a single other fan our source of  
noise in

the room.

Indeed, I sometimes can't hear them running when I'm working on the  
rig on

the bench.

After taking a number of complaints about the little "whizzer" fan  
in the

K2/100, I believe that was Wayne's intent ;-)

It sure sounds like something is quite different now. I'd recommend  
also

posting a note on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about it.

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:


That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect
any noise.
I still think there is something else wrong.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)

On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:


I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of
the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the
corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the
fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the
room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
I have certainly been surprised by folks who say they cannot hear their
fans.  I can (although they rarely come on) and I even had Gary send some
replacement units, but when I changed them over the improvement was not
great.  I've checked all likely reasons, it's not the sound of a fan
touching something. I wonder how genuinely quiet some people's shacks are.
If I had a Windows desktop PC on the desk alongside I'm certain I'd never
hear them, similarly if I had an amp running, or any other of the constant
sounds you just get used to until hit by the sudden quiet of a power cut!

To put things in perspective, the K3 fans are excellent compared with the
IC706 or IC7000 for example, where their noisy fans even cut in on receive!
So, it's all relative I suppose.

These days I almost always use open headphones (Sennheiser HD590) so it's
not really an issue- I can just detect the fans turning on whilst wearing
them.  On a different note, closed headphones (unless I'm on a plane) I find
claustrophobic, as if I have cut myself off from the rest of the world!

73 Stephen G4SJP

K3 #980
K2, KX-1


On 09/12/2008 18:27, "W7TEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> When I received my factory built K3 last spring (#1001) I thought
> the fans were louder than I expected after reading about folks
> who had to physically check to see if there fans were on.  I could
> hear the fans start up through my headphones when PA temp hit 37C.
> I sent the rig back and the good folks traded out a few other fan modules
> and reported that the noise level was the same and appropriate.
> 
> I inquired about Elecraft changing fan suppliers. They said that had
> happened, but the new supplier's fans were as quiet.
> 
> So, I believe there are a variety of experiences.  My fans are not whisper
> quiet, but maybe I, too, have been spoiled by my TT rigs with external
> cooling fins and no fans.
> 
> Gary W7TEA
> 
> 
> I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when
> the cooling fans switched on, making it very hard
> to hear over the "whine" of the fans (or fan) even through
> the padding on my headphones.
> 
> Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration
> isolators, etc?
> 
> Charlie, N0TT



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Re: [Elecraft] FLx GN at Maximum

2008-12-09 Thread Lyle Johnson
Following the procedure below I ended up with the gain for my 400 Hz 
roofing filter set at the maximum 8 dB setting.


There are nominal variations in the various filters.  My 400 Hz filters 
happen to need a gain of 4 (sub) or 5 (main) dB.  My 250 Hz filter 
(main) needs 7 while my 200 Hz filter (sub) needs 3 dB.


The limit of 8 dB is software enforced.  The DSP can apply significantly 
more compensation if necessary.


73,

Lyle KK7P
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re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Mike Scott
Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration
isolators, etc?

Wow, I have never heard my fans, not a peep. I have seen them run and felt
the air flow out the back but sound, no. 

Something sounds wrong with your fans. 

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread W7TEA

When I received my factory built K3 last spring (#1001) I thought
the fans were louder than I expected after reading about folks
who had to physically check to see if there fans were on.  I could
hear the fans start up through my headphones when PA temp hit 37C.
I sent the rig back and the good folks traded out a few other fan modules
and reported that the noise level was the same and appropriate.  

I inquired about Elecraft changing fan suppliers. They said that had 
happened, but the new supplier's fans were as quiet.  

So, I believe there are a variety of experiences.  My fans are not whisper
quiet, but maybe I, too, have been spoiled by my TT rigs with external
cooling fins and no fans.  

Gary W7TEA


I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when
the cooling fans switched on, making it very hard
to hear over the "whine" of the fans (or fan) even through
the padding on my headphones.  

Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration
isolators, etc?

Charlie, N0TT

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[Elecraft] FLx GN at Maximum

2008-12-09 Thread Barry Pfeil
Is it unusual or does it cause any problem to have a filter gain setting at 
it's max value?  Is that gain occurring in the IF DSP or elsewhere?  
Following the procedure below I ended up with the gain for my 400 Hz roofing 
filter set at the maximum 8 dB setting.
 
I used the Elecraft XG1 (set at 50 microvolts output level) direct into the K3 
(sn 1774) which was in CW mode and set initially to the 7040 kHz nominal 
frequency of the XG1.  I then used the CWT and SPOT controls to tune more 
accurately, showing the oscillator to be about a 0.1 kHz low.  At the stock 2.7 
kHz roofing filter width the AFV indicated 1248.  With the 1.8 kHz roofer it 
showed 1275 and initially the 400 Hz filter showed around 1130(?) with the FL3 
GN set at 2 dB per the "typical" mentioned in the manual.  But using the AFV 
indicator, I ended up increasing the FL3 GN to 8 dB, it's maximum setting.  
This brought the AFV indication for the 400 Hz filter up to 1250.  Switching 
between the filters and just listening, the signal levels do sound exactly the 
same.
 
In the analog world, I'm sometimes concerned about "calibration" controls set 
at their extremes but maybe it is an non-issue here?
Thanks, Barry, K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Milt, N5IA



I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)



I had to look, or feel, to see that mine were running during the build 
test

of the fans. Very quite even at the forth setting.

Adam - KA7ARK


They have fans on them?  Guess I better take a look and make sure there are 
some installed on my model.


Milt, N5IA



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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 Installation ; ERR VCO 00227

2008-12-09 Thread Barry N1EU


George Sereikas wrote:
> 
> After installing the latest firmware, I installed the KRX3 that I just  
> received yesterday. All went smoothly until I went to Calibrate KsYN3  
> (p 43 in KRX3 Manual). I keep getting ERR 00227 VCO. I also received  
> the ERR 00228 VCO one time.
> 
> Any ideas where I might look to solve this issue?
> 
> 

You should contact Elecraft tech support.

73,
Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] Dodgy site

2008-12-09 Thread Julian, G4ILO

I think the problem is that Mode Components is using a free web host that has
some dodgy users. There is probably nothing wrong with the site itself, but
Kaspersky regards Free Web Town as a bad neighbourhood, with some
justification if Google is anything to go by.

Given that web hosting is available for well under a tenner in the UK from
reputable hosts like 1+1, I don't know why someone would penny-pinch to the
extent of using a dodgy free web host for their business site.

My hunch is that this site is safe to visit. But it is quite a common
problem that malware is planted on legitimate sites by hackers exploiting
weak passwords and security vulnerabilities, so even your local church
website could end up delivering malware. It is wise to be cautious, and
absolutely right of Dave to post this alert as soon as he received it.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack   http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham
Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 
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[Elecraft] KRX3 Installation ; ERR VCO 00227

2008-12-09 Thread George Sereikas
After installing the latest firmware, I installed the KRX3 that I just  
received yesterday. All went smoothly until I went to Calibrate KsYN3  
(p 43 in KRX3 Manual). I keep getting ERR 00227 VCO. I also received  
the ERR 00228 VCO one time.


Any ideas where I might look to solve this issue?

Thanks!

George
K2WO
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Bill Johnson
Mine are quiet. The idea of rig placement and rig use can make a big deal.
Try dropping your power slightly, e.g., 90 watts and try it. 


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods
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I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
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Re: [Elecraft] PR6

2008-12-09 Thread Ken Kopp

I've had mine for several weeks.  It replaces a Down East
Microwave (kit-built) unit and works well.

The DEM has -slightly- more measured gain but a bit less
bandwidth at the 3db points.  Mine measures 14db of gain
at 50.4 mHz and the -3db points are at 43.8 and 58.1 mHz.
The automatic enabling feature in the software is nice, too.

It's a "quiet" pre-amp.  I can't comment about on-the-air use,
as the band's been dead.  Am waiting on my 2nd receiver so
I can monitor the band all the time.

The PR6 is beautifully built and in a nice machined housing.
It comes with all needed cabling and even a pair of male-male
BNC connectors in case you want to hang it directly off the
back of the K3 ... I don't!

The only improvement I would make would be to make the 
white control lead a bit longer, as it tethers the preamp too 
close to the radio, placing it in direct competition with other 
cables behind the radio.


73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] PR6

2008-12-09 Thread Lance Collister

Mike Harris wrote:

G'day,

Anyone using the PRS 6m preamp got anything to say about their 
experiences.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO 


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Hello Mike,

I acquired a PR6 and it works very slick.  It is neat to be able to still use the 
separate RF antenna port when the band selected is not 6m. The gain when I have it 
connected to the K3 is very similar to my external LNA CA50T preamplifier.  I 
can't imagine operating 6m without a preamp on the K3.  GL and VY 73, Lance


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Re: [Elecraft] Dodgy site

2008-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

Hello Suspicious :-)
I think I've lost track, people are saying http://www.modecomponents.co.uk 
 are linking to images on http://fwt.txdnl.com?

I see the gif of Santa's Sledge, it’s a link to 
http://www.freewebtown.com/hamradio/Mode_Components/christmas_holiday.htm
And that page just lists Chris's availability between end of November  
and the New Year.


I can find no link to fwt on the home page.

I suggest someone ask Chris about this - oh look, I just have!


BTW, my AF mod shipped from Aptos yesterday, so a bit late to get it  
from Chris (I mailed to cancel the order and it had just shipped), but  
I hope he gets even more mod kits etc for K3.


Lastly, I would guess we are in danger of breaching the length and  
relevance rules of the Elecraft site, so we should perhaps hang fire  
on this until Chris responds.


73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons,
For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

On 9 Dec 2008, at 16:42, Dave G4AON wrote:


Hello David

The issue is the site is linking to http://fwt.txdnl.com which is a
known malicious content site. What that is about is anyone's guess,  
but
Kaspersky doesn't think much of the idea and it is the only site  
where I
have come across such alerts. See what Norton thinks of the linked  
site:

http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?name=txdnl.com

Call me suspicious, but I can't see any reason why they would use  
images

somehow linking to that dodgy site. The report from Kaspersky is (same
for all the graphics):

09/12/2008 16:23:04Web TrafficDetected: fwt.txdnl.com/*
Firefox
http://fwt.txdnl.com/6-40/h/a/hamradio/Mode_Components/ 
Sants_Sledge.gif

Databases


73 Dave, G4AON


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Gary Smith
Though my K3 is still in utero and I have no personal experence with 
the fan noise on it yet, I might suggest getting some foam baffling 
like you see on some speaker grills and mount that behind the radio 
and if possible, angle the batting to deflect the fans sound waves 
above or below, so they do not reflect directly back to the radio and 
as well, back to you.

If you direct the sound lower you might have a bit of this baffling 
taped to the back of the desk and that will break up the resonance 
which will only serve to amplify the sound.

An ideal material would be the irregular shaped sound proofing AKA 
acoustic tile as the material tends to not reflect sound but the 
irregular shapes on its surface break up resonance.

Fiberglass would be great except for the obvious problem of the 
slivers. very wrinkled terrycloth would be better than nothing, if 
you can't find such batting, be creative; something you have on hand 
or can find easily will surely be of some help. Just use something 
fuzzy at the least.

The closer the sound is immediately to right angles will increase the 
lower registers as in the reason floor mounted speakers carry more 
bass than ones mid level & in the open, up the wall.

73,

Gary
KA1J 

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[Elecraft] PR6

2008-12-09 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

Anyone using the PRS 6m preamp got anything to say about their 
experiences.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Adam Koczarski

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM
> To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?
> 
> I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)
> 

I had to look, or feel, to see that mine were running during the build test
of the fans. Very quite even at the forth setting.

Adam - KA7ARK


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Re: [Elecraft] Article on Elecraft kits

2008-12-09 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi Chuck:

The MVDXCC web page is a bit "busy"... and the link to the newsletter might
be missed by some.  The link directly to your article is:

   http://www.mvdxcc.org/newsletter/newsletter.PDF

And the article starts on page 6 of the newsletter. GREAT ARTICLE!

THanks.

73,

Tom Hammond   N0SS

At 10:43 12/09/2008, ni0c wrote:

Several weeks ago, I reported here that my article,
"Experiencing Elecraft," describing the KX1, K2,
and K3 kits was appearing in the November issue
of the K9YA Telegraph.

The article has been reprinted in the December
issue of The DX Hog, the monthly newsletter
of the Mississippi Valley DX and Contest Club,
and can be downloaded in .pdf form from:
http://www.mvdxcc.org/

73,
Chuck Guenther  NI0C

K2/10 s/n 5853
K3/100 s/n 1061




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[Elecraft] Article on Elecraft kits

2008-12-09 Thread ni0c
Several weeks ago, I reported here that my article, 
"Experiencing Elecraft," describing the KX1, K2, 
and K3 kits was appearing in the November issue 
of the K9YA Telegraph.  

The article has been reprinted in the December 
issue of The DX Hog, the monthly newsletter 
of the Mississippi Valley DX and Contest Club, 
and can be downloaded in .pdf form from:
http://www.mvdxcc.org/

73,
Chuck Guenther  NI0C

K2/10 s/n 5853
K3/100 s/n 1061 


   
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
There were a number of comments among the first customers that the fans were
so quiet they couldn't tell if they were running without turning the rig
around and looking at them. 

That's how mine are too (S/N 10 - early pre-production K3) and I am very
sensitive to fan noise. On the rare occasions my K3 is actually assembled an
on the operating desk, it's close to a wood paneled wall and I'm not aware
of them even though there's not a single other fan our source of noise in
the room. 

Indeed, I sometimes can't hear them running when I'm working on the rig on
the bench.

After taking a number of complaints about the little "whizzer" fan in the
K2/100, I believe that was Wayne's intent ;-)

It sure sounds like something is quite different now. I'd recommend also
posting a note on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about it. 

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

> That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect  
> any noise.
> I still think there is something else wrong.
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
> -- 
> They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)
>
> On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:
>
>> I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a  
>> difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of  
>> the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the  
>> corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the  
>> fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the  
>> room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.
>

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RE: [Elecraft] RE: KXV3 Available

2008-12-09 Thread Terry Schieler
Then I’d like the hat if possible.

 

Terry, WØFM

 

From: G4MKP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:05 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] RE: KXV3 Available

 

Blimey! Didn’t expect such a response so quickly. I will take all of the
names of those that respond (five so far) by 1200hrs tomorrow and first out
of the hat can have it.

 

Cheers,

 

Terry

G4MKP 

 

  _  

From: G4MKP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 December 2008 17:39
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: KXV3 Available

 

You may recall me reporting a faulty KXV3 board. I manage to repair the
fault (D5 replaced) and so far as I can tell, the board is once again fully
operational - everything worked superbly in CQWW CW anyhow. In the meantime,
Elecraft kindly sent me a replacement board and I have informed them of the
situation. I can offer the repaired board to anyone that would like it.

 

If you would like the board please let me know. In the unlikely event of a
mass response, names go in the hat.

 

No cost within the UK. Outside of the UK, postage at cost.

 

Cheers,

 

Terry

G4MKP

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread ON4WIX
My K3 is also whisper quiet. I have to look at the fans to check whether 
they're running or not because I cannot hear them running at all.


73
Glenn ON4WIX
K3 #192
K2 #5361
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Planisky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?



I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:


That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect
any noise.
I still think there is something else wrong.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)

On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:


I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of
the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the
corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the
fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the
room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.




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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Jim
No fan noise here. Actually had to look closely. Yep! They are running.

73 de KE4WY Jim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob May
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?


I can't hear my fans at all.  I periodically turn them on from the menu to
make sure they are working.  The back of the K3 is just a few inches from
the wall so I would expect any sound to be reflected right back to me.  On
the other hand the fan on my 746Pro (sitting right next to it) is very loud
and annoying when I transmit.  Since I have the K3, that isn't very often.
;-)
Rob
NV5E

> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:31:25 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: 
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?
> 
> I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when
> the cooling fans switched on, making it very hard
> to hear over the "whine" of the fans (or fan) even through
> the padding on my headphones.  
> 
> Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration
> isolators, etc?
> 
> Charlie, N0TT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Monty Shultes

My fans make no audible sound.

Monty  K2DLJ a/n 699


I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
--
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On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect  
any noise.

I still think there is something else wrong.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)

On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:

I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a  
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of  
the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the  
corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the  
fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the  
room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.




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[Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Ken Kopp

I'll add my comment on the fans ...

Mine are -totally- quiet and I'm one of those who have 
to look to see if they're running, which they don't do 
very often ...I'm a 100W CW only owner.


73! Ken Kopp  - K0PP
K3 # 56
K2 # 5665
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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3

2008-12-09 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes.

73,

Eric
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-Original Message-
From: Brett Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, Dec 8, 2008 10:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3
To: lyle johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: Reflector Elecraft 

Deeply apologize if this has been covered but I've not seen it in the 10 or 15 
messages I've read on this topic but can recorded audio be fed
back out the TX pipe?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 compression settings

2008-12-09 Thread Lyle Johnson

I believe compression and equalization are both automatically
disabled when in a data mode (including DATA A).


Tx EQ is currently set for the radio, not the mode.  Likewise Rx EQ.

Compression is disabled for DATA modes that use audio input (DATA A, 
AFSK) and restored for USB/LSB operation.


Having Rx EQ and Tx EQ be saved by mode is on th elist of things to get 
done.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Rob May

I can't hear my fans at all.  I periodically turn them on from the menu to make 
sure they are working.  The back of the K3 is just a few inches from the wall 
so I would expect any sound to be reflected right back to me.  On the other 
hand the fan on my 746Pro (sitting right next to it) is very loud and annoying 
when I transmit.  Since I have the K3, that isn't very often.  ;-)
Rob
NV5E

> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 05:31:25 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: 
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?
> 
> I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when
> the cooling fans switched on, making it very hard
> to hear over the "whine" of the fans (or fan) even through
> the padding on my headphones.  
> 
> Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration
> isolators, etc?
> 
> Charlie, N0TT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky

I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect  
any noise.

I still think there is something else wrong.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)

On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:

I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a  
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of  
the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the  
corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the  
fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the  
room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect  
any noise.

I still think there is something else wrong.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)

On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote:

I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a  
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of  
the room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the  
corner, the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the  
fans are louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the  
room, I don't notice the noise nearly as much.


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Re: [Elecraft] No Speaker output

2008-12-09 Thread Ignacy

I also have the same problem and getting a new DSP board.
Ignacy


S Sacco wrote:
> 
> Carsten -
> 
> I am experiencing the same problem.  At this point, after confirming that
> it's not the KAIO3 boards, Elecraft suspects a bad DSP board, and they're
> sending me a replacement.   I'm hoping this resolves the problem.
> 
> Good luck & 73,
> Steve NN4X
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Carsten Steinhöfel <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I have a little problem with K3 #549. I do not get AF out of the internal
>> Speaker
>> or rear-panel Speaker output. I am usually using headphones so only
>> noticed
>> it
>> recently in Senegal when I wanted to have my YL listen to a sked with
>> home.
>>
>> It doesn't seem to be a hardware problem because when I set SPKR+PH to
>> yes
>> in the
>> menu I do get output. Only if it is set to no and I don't have headphones
>> connected
>> is there no output. I've tried setting SPKRS to 1 and 2 with no
>> difference.
>> Is
>> there some other setting that I am missing that could be causing this
>> behaviour?
>>
>> I've also tried upgrading to the latest firmware but that didn't make a
>> difference
>> either.
>>
>> I'd be grateful for any ideas.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Carsten, DL1EFD
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky

Charlie,

Yes, I have battled the fan noise, too.  I got replacement fans which  
seemed a little quieter, but I still had no doubt when they were  
running.  I noticed that if I removed the fan panel from the rig and  
held it in my hand while the fans were running, they were very quiet.   
So I went to the local hardware store and found some neoprene (rubber)  
washers about 1/16 inch thick.  I placed them on the bolts between the  
fans and the mounting plate.  That has helped to quiet them down quite  
a bit.  I still know when they're running, but it's tolerable.


I've also found that where I place the K3 on my desk makes a  
difference in how loud the fans sound.  My desk is in a corner of the  
room and if I place the K3 so the back is pointing into the corner,  
the walls reflect any sound right back toward me and the fans are  
louder.  If I place it on a table in the middle of the room, I don't  
notice the noise nearly as much.


73
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On Dec 8, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Missouri Guy wrote:


I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when
the cooling fans switched on, making it very hard
to hear over the "whine" of the fans (or fan) even through
the padding on my headphones.

Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration
isolators, etc?

Charlie, N0TT

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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3

2008-12-09 Thread Don Wilhelm

Brett,

As I recall, that is in the plan, but not yet implemented.

73,
Don W3FPR

Brett Howard wrote:

Deeply apologize if this has been covered but I've not seen it in the 10
or 15 messages I've read on this topic but can recorded audio be fed
back out the TX pipe?
  


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Re: [Elecraft] No Speaker output

2008-12-09 Thread S Sacco
Carsten -

I am experiencing the same problem.  At this point, after confirming that
it's not the KAIO3 boards, Elecraft suspects a bad DSP board, and they're
sending me a replacement.   I'm hoping this resolves the problem.

Good luck & 73,
Steve NN4X



On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Carsten Steinhöfel <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hi there,
>
> I have a little problem with K3 #549. I do not get AF out of the internal
> Speaker
> or rear-panel Speaker output. I am usually using headphones so only noticed
> it
> recently in Senegal when I wanted to have my YL listen to a sked with home.
>
> It doesn't seem to be a hardware problem because when I set SPKR+PH to yes
> in the
> menu I do get output. Only if it is set to no and I don't have headphones
> connected
> is there no output. I've tried setting SPKRS to 1 and 2 with no difference.
> Is
> there some other setting that I am missing that could be causing this
> behaviour?
>
> I've also tried upgrading to the latest firmware but that didn't make a
> difference
> either.
>
> I'd be grateful for any ideas.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Carsten, DL1EFD
>
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[Elecraft] RE: KXV3 Available - And the winner is........

2008-12-09 Thread G4MKP
Evert - PA2KW

 

Distribution was:

 

NA/VE - 6

EU  - 4

 

I will contact Evert by pm and arrange delivery.

 

Thanks to all that took part.

 

Cheers,

 

Terry

G4MKP

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From: G4MKP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 December 2008 18:05
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: RE: KXV3 Available

 

Blimey! Didn't expect such a response so quickly. I will take all of the
names of those that respond (five so far) by 1200hrs tomorrow and first out
of the hat can have it.

 

Cheers,

 

Terry

G4MKP 

 

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From: G4MKP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 December 2008 17:39
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: KXV3 Available

 

You may recall me reporting a faulty KXV3 board. I manage to repair the
fault (D5 replaced) and so far as I can tell, the board is once again fully
operational - everything worked superbly in CQWW CW anyhow. In the meantime,
Elecraft kindly sent me a replacement board and I have informed them of the
situation. I can offer the repaired board to anyone that would like it.

 

If you would like the board please let me know. In the unlikely event of a
mass response, names go in the hat.

 

No cost within the UK. Outside of the UK, postage at cost.

 

Cheers,

 

Terry

G4MKP

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 & KRX3 Fantastic in ARRL 160 M!

2008-12-09 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

| Joe's ability to pull them out. The other bad thing was Joe was only
| able to work 4 JA's rather than the hoped for 100.

| One thing Joe told me was to "NOT" use functions on the K3 and KRX3 when
| transmitting.

Not a plumber his he.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
The fans are whisper quiet on the K3, if yours aren’t there is  
something wrong - possibly as suggested by Stewart below, a wire  
touching the hub or the blades, or possibly a missing washer causing  
distortion to the fan casing.
Mine just don't come on and I have to use the CONFIG menu entry to get  
them to spin so I can check them.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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find that they very rarely lose or fail.



On 9 Dec 2008, at 09:16, GW0ETF wrote:



Take the top cover off the radio Charlie and check for nearby  
connecting
wires contacting the fans - when they do you get an alarming buzz  
but if the
degree of contact is very slight I presume it may just sound like a  
'normal'

noisy fan. The K3 fans are completely noiseless.

BTW you don't have to wait for the temp to rise to check the fans  
'cos there
is a menu entry (Config - KPA3...??) where you can test the 4 speed  
settings
of the fans. I always check this after being inside the radio to  
make sure I
won't get a fright half way through a sessions when the fans come  
on


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Supply of K3AFMDKT in Europe

2008-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

I use a Mac - might be the reason
--  
When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long  
and
so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which  
open

for us. -Alexander Graham Bell, inventor (1847-1922)

On 9 Dec 2008, at 00:19, David Lankshear wrote:

None has had a problem with this site, so you might care to check  
your Kaspersky, because

it seems M0DXF hasn't had any problems, either.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Supply of K3AFMDKT in Europe

2008-12-09 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Hello Dave,

Unless my AVG package is not catching an attempt to download malicious 
software, all appeared to be well when I visited this site. A subsequent 
scan of my PC just warned about a cookie, which it does regularly.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Dave G4AON wrote:



For some reason when I tried to visit the modecomponents web site my
Kaspersky Internet Security package went crazy with warnings about the
site trying to download malicious software to my PC. I don't know if
it's a false positive or not, but beware. I've not had that response to
any other web site.

73 Dave, G4AON



See Mode Components website at http://www.modecomponents.co.uk and order
part number K3MODKIT#1.




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Re: [Elecraft] [Fwd: Re: K3 and the digital modes]

2008-12-09 Thread Julian, G4ILO


K8TB wrote:
> 
> On a slightly different note, if you have problems with different
> levels with different audio cards for different programs, take a look at 
> this program:
> 
> http://www.romacsoftware.com/SoundManagement.htm
> 
> Very clever. It detects what program you are using and what audio card 
> is requested and resets audio levels to where you want them. I can't 
> tell you how many times my sound cards have been hijacked by some other 
> program, and I have to go back and reset the Windows level set. If the 
> program works for you, he only is asking a $ 10 donation.
> 
> 

I've used QuickMix (http://www.ptpart.co.uk/quickmix/) for this for years.
It's freeware, but you have to run it manually.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and MixW

2008-12-09 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Gary Gregory-3 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Anyone on the reflector using MixW with a K3?
> 
> Off list, can you send me the settings used on both the radio and MixW.
> 
> I am seeing the waterfall, but, on Tx I am getting an error..ERR TxF.
> 
> I hope somebody will take pity on me and put me out of my misery. (but
> please be gentle, I'm fragile)
> 
> 

I have given up MixW and now use Fldigi, but the error you are getting is
not caused bu the software. I think you have not set up your filters
correctly for the K3 data mode. Check the filter settings CONFIG:FLx BW and
CONFIG:FLTX.


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[Elecraft] No Speaker output

2008-12-09 Thread Carsten Steinhöfel

Hi there,

I have a little problem with K3 #549. I do not get AF out of the internal 
Speaker
or rear-panel Speaker output. I am usually using headphones so only noticed it
recently in Senegal when I wanted to have my YL listen to a sked with home.

It doesn't seem to be a hardware problem because when I set SPKR+PH to yes in 
the
menu I do get output. Only if it is set to no and I don't have headphones 
connected
is there no output. I've tried setting SPKRS to 1 and 2 with no difference. Is
there some other setting that I am missing that could be causing this behaviour?

I've also tried upgrading to the latest firmware but that didn't make a 
difference
either.

I'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks and regards,

Carsten, DL1EFD

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread GW0ETF

Take the top cover off the radio Charlie and check for nearby connecting
wires contacting the fans - when they do you get an alarming buzz but if the
degree of contact is very slight I presume it may just sound like a 'normal'
noisy fan. The K3 fans are completely noiseless.

BTW you don't have to wait for the temp to rise to check the fans 'cos there
is a menu entry (Config - KPA3...??) where you can test the 4 speed settings
of the fans. I always check this after being inside the radio to make sure I
won't get a fright half way through a sessions when the fans come on

73,

Stewart Rolfe GW0ETF 


Missouri Guy, N0TT wrote:
> 
> I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when
> the cooling fans switched on, making it very hard
> to hear over the "whine" of the fans (or fan) even through
> the padding on my headphones.  
> 
> Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration
> isolators, etc?
> 
> Charlie, N0TT
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