Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
To me the argument that we have to buy our Japanese rigs from an importer too, isn't a very good one. Everyone in the world has to buy there Japanese rigs from a importer so everybody has to pay more. But with Elecraft equipment, only the Japanese have buy there stuff from a importer whilst the rest of the world can buy directly from Elecraft and therefore save some money. 73, Maarten __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgruntled Europeans
Okay we have VAT rates (Sales tax) that run between 15% and 22% depending on one's country but this does not come close to explaining the price differentials. Not only VAT, you forgot that European Dealers have to give 2 Years warranty instead of 1 Year (or for some products only 90 Days) There also are much higher cost for burocracy, office rental, man power, Insurance, tax. Not only Ham Eqipment is more expensive over here, but houses, cars, Bananas, Computers. (Ok, beer is cheaper in Germany :-) We are working together with Elecraft since 10 years, selling all Elecraft products. Several hundreds of European HAMs got their kits (and of course also factory built K3) from us. I can´t count the number of K2, K1, KX1 which have been finished on my workbench due to problems the builders had. Some DXPeditions by Germans could start only because we did a repair 3 days before take off. We proudly feel as a part of the Elecraft Family. Peter, DL2FI and Nik, DL7NIK QRPproject __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Open question : K3 and interfaces used for digi modes...
G'day, Lionel-F6FCD wrote: Who and how are you using Elecraft products with interfaces for digi-mode ? What are you doing with ? what kind of mode is interresting ? And alsowhat kind of software.a lot are available on the web The interface I use for digital modes is simply two audio cables line in/out on the K3 to line out/in on the PC sound card and a quiet homebrew RS232 cable for logging and PTT you could use VOX, I don't bother with rig control for me that is what the knobs are for. NO fancy expensive interface required for basic operation. Software is Logger32 with built in digi mode support (MMTTY MMVARI). It all takes a bit of setting up, RTFM time, an alien concept in the age of instant gratification. Modes used are RTTY, PSK31, JT65A (eme). Personally speaking I find much of the time the digital modes are like watching paint dry but sometimes it is the only way that a QSO will be made with some locations at present and the known capability is useful. Once macros are set up digi modes are simple to use except that some folks feel the need to include their life history, club affiliations and inside leg measurement in a macro. One huge advantage of digi modes, and CW is that they are quiet, unlike voice, and can be used without disturbing the household. Regards, Mike VP8NO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] Mods...
John, On the AGC response, lowering C31 will decrease the delay time for the AGC, and lowering C67 should increase the attack time. I think the attack time is about right on the K1, and it is a matter of choice whether you want to decrease the delay time. This is audio derived AGC, so while quite effective in protecting the ears it is never as good as an AGC system that is derived at the IF (as in the K2). I would recommend using the K1 with the stock values for a while to determine if you want to make any changes. Yes, a bypass capacitor on R30 will increase the gain of the driver, but the driver transistor has recently been changed to a 2SC5739 which has higher gain at higher frequencies than the 2SC2166, so this mod should not be installed with the new transistor in place. If you cannot get adequate power out on all bands (greater than 5 watts with a 13.8 volt power supply), look for the problem elsewhere. Such a problem will usually be found in the low pass filter. 73, Don W3FPR John H Farmer wrote: Hello All, I'm new to the group, so this is to say hello. I'm happily breathing life into my K1 #2822. It arrived for Xmas. The build is going well and my toroid winding skills are improving :) I have a couple of questions about K1 mods: About the ACG response time mod : changing C31 to a lower value cap ( from 2.2uF to 1uF or lower) is mentioned most often, but there is a variation of opinion whether C67 should be lowered also. Many of the postings about this are several years old. I was just wondering if ideas about this have evolved any further? Secondly, I've read on JL3AHK's site, about a mod to increase OP power of the K1 to a consistent 7W across all bands. He suggests adding a 0.001uF cap in parallel with R30 on the RF board. I can't find any reference to this mod anywhere in the archives. Any opinions on this mod? This K1 is my first Elecraft rig. I'm learning lots and having fun. It's practice for a K2. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Rick, Thanks for that clarification on the supply voltage. Yes, in most cases, the K1 will hear better than the FT-817. You should be able to have 5 watts or more on 20 meters with that supply voltage. You said you made some improvement by squeezing the turns on the LPF, so the LPF may be your only problem. Re-count the turns on the 20 meter LPF toroids - count the number of times the wire passes through the center of the core. If you have an antenna analyzer, I can tell you how to set-up to check the LPF cutoff frequency as a check. 73, Don W3FPR Rick/WA6ES wrote: Hi Don 13.8v. I get 7 watts on 40m and just want a little more for 20m. I am happy with the little thing. Actually I was switching between my ft817 and the K1. Maybe it is me but the K1 heard a little better. Or maybe it is just me that I made the K1 Rick/WA6ES K1 SN:2820 Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: Rick, What is your power supply voltage? The K1 maximum output is quite dependent on the supply voltage, so if you are using 12 volts instead of 13.8 volts, that may explain your 4.4 watt power output limit. 73, Don W3FPR Rick/WA6ES wrote: Marc Well I worked on the winding spacing and got it up to a little over 4 watts, actually 4.4, so that did help. I sent off an email to Elecraft yesterday when I posted this and no answer yet, maybe I will call them and talk to Scott there. I have to get a couple of speaker slides, heck those things are small! I even played with the 40m section and got another watt out there also! Can I live with 4.4 watts on 20,maybe, but if I get more pwr out, even better. Thanks again for the info Rick/WA6ES __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.124/2599 - Release Date: 01/04/10 03:24:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 for sale
Gilbert Cross wrote: Gilbert Cross wrote: K2 s/n 3346 Has the following options: KIO2 KAT2 KSB2 K160RX KNB2 KAF2 MH2 CW tuning indicator T/R relay driver switching is with the same mosfet used in the K3 Frequency calibration is excellent Filters are set up using Spectrogram and with the wife monitoring through headphones she says I sound natural Very nice radio. Of course comes with all manuals and cables Ready to operate Asking$900.00 If interested please contact me off list. Thank youGilK8EAG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 on 500 kHz
I ordered a Palomar VLF converter a year ago from HRO and they had to refund my money. They said that the VLF converter was no longer being made. The Palomar Engineers web site seems to reflect this. They only show balun stuff, now. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Wayne Burdick wrote: What I meant was that you *could* make a transverter for these bands and interface it to the K3 via KXV3 module. We don't have plans to offer one ourselves. I've had a Palomar VLF Converter for years, works really great, and better with my K3. Converts [allegedly] DC to 500 KHz to 3.5 to 4.0 MHz. LORAN-C noise here on the US Pacific Coast is a bit of a problem, we're fairly close to Middletown CA which has a USCG LORAN station, but the loop will null most of it out. Seems to work good down to about 12 KHz, then things get mushy. I think I've even heard the power line carrier current telemetry ... we have a 145KV line close to us and I know it carries it, we have hydroelectric plants above and below us and I can see the chokes in the substations. That said, I haven't had the Palomar on for about a year, maybe I'll hook it up again and see what's there. There was some word [maybe urban legends] that the CG was going to shut down LORAN-C in the face of GPS. I've heard the West Coast 500KHZ ham beacon several times, can't remember the call now. I really can't see why Elecraft would want to delve into such a low volume market when there are a number of cheap alternatives already out there. I'd rather they work on the solid-state amps :-) As a High School senior at 16, I got to work ships at sea on 500Kcs from a coastal marine station as a relief operator. The Holy Frequency is eerily silent these days compared to then, when it was a sort of world-wide party-line. But, that was then and this is now. LoFer is sort of fun for awhile, but I can't transmit there and the fun tends to fade after I've identified all the NDB's I can hear. 73 and a Good New Year to all, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
I'm a brand new K3 user. Had it since yesterday and already love it. I want to use the radio in split with both receivers linked all the time. Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so radio stays in split mode? Thanks for the help. 73 bob de w9ge -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 KXV3 RX Ant Output filter issue
I am interested in connecting a 2nd receiver to monitor other bands using the KXV3 RX Ant In/Out jacks. For example in the 'RX ANT mode', I have the K3 on 40m and want to monitor 20m using an external receiver. However, there appears to be a 10 MHz low pass filter that is engaged in the K3 when 40m is selected. If I select 20m on the K3, there is no 10 MHz LPF, and I can receive 40m on the external receiver. Why is this? Is there a way to disable band pass filters on the RX ANT Out? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
Bob, you're touching on a couple of areas where N1MM Logger's control of the K3 isn't rock solid. The best you can probably do for now is to check the config setting dual rx always on. With that setting, the subrx should stay on when a spot is grabbed. Personally, I'd like the software to leave the subrx alone and allow me to control it manually, but haven't been able to persuade the programmers. With the current N1MM implementation, you must use the program to set and reset split mode via alt-f7. Otherwise, it doesn't know of any changes to split status. This is another area that needs programming attention. Hopefully, N1MM Logger will improve in these two areas of K3 control in the near future. 73, Barry N1EU bob finger wrote: Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so radio stays in split mode? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/k3-and-N1MM-question-tp4255584p4255791.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 on 500 kHz
An alternative to Palomar is the VLF converter kit from Jackson Harbor Press. I wrote a detailed review of the kit at http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/jackson_harbor_press_vlf_converter.htm Jackson Harbor Press can be found at http://home.att.net/~jacksonharbor/ham.htm. Look for the LF Converter. Jack K8ZOA On 1/5/2010 10:00 AM, Rick Dettinger wrote: I ordered a Palomar VLF converter a year ago from HRO and they had to refund my money. They said that the VLF converter was no longer being made. The Palomar Engineers web site seems to reflect this. They only show balun stuff, now. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Wayne Burdick wrote: What I meant was that you *could* make a transverter for these bands and interface it to the K3 via KXV3 module. We don't have plans to offer one ourselves. I've had a Palomar VLF Converter for years, works really great, and better with my K3. Converts [allegedly] DC to 500 KHz to 3.5 to 4.0 MHz. LORAN-C noise here on the US Pacific Coast is a bit of a problem, we're fairly close to Middletown CA which has a USCG LORAN station, but the loop will null most of it out. Seems to work good down to about 12 KHz, then things get mushy. I think I've even heard the power line carrier current telemetry ... we have a 145KV line close to us and I know it carries it, we have hydroelectric plants above and below us and I can see the chokes in the substations. That said, I haven't had the Palomar on for about a year, maybe I'll hook it up again and see what's there. There was some word [maybe urban legends] that the CG was going to shut down LORAN-C in the face of GPS. I've heard the West Coast 500KHZ ham beacon several times, can't remember the call now. I really can't see why Elecraft would want to delve into such a low volume market when there are a number of cheap alternatives already out there. I'd rather they work on the solid-state amps :-) As a High School senior at 16, I got to work ships at sea on 500Kcs from a coastal marine station as a relief operator. The Holy Frequency is eerily silent these days compared to then, when it was a sort of world-wide party-line. But, that was then and this is now. LoFer is sort of fun for awhile, but I can't transmit there and the fun tends to fade after I've identified all the NDB's I can hear. 73 and a Good New Year to all, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Disgrunteled Japanese
Looking at the same PDF, I get 622,900 yen = $6800 plus 22,900yen/$250 per 8-pole filter. 73, Barry N1EU Tom Hammond-2 wrote: Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Disgrunteled-Japanese-tp4250692p4255835.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Byron I am using the meter on the K1. I also have an MFJ Tuner/meter combo for QRP that is not that accurate. I will be purchasing a new meter soon. Not sure about the KAT1 issue, that is my next purchase along with the Battery pack. Maybe Don/W3FPR could help answer this. Don Yes please tell me how to read the cut off Freq. I have the MFJ type. Thanks Rick/WA6ES Byron Servies-2 wrote: On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Rick/WA6ES wrote: How are you measuring the power output? With my new K1 using a DL1 and KAT1 I get exactly the number of bars on the TX LCD bar graph as I set in the output menu for power output using a 13.8 vold power supply, from 2 to 7. This is true for all 4 bands, with the only difference being if I don't tune it takes a few CQ's for the KAT1 to catch up, as expected. Just curious what I might be missing, Byron KI6NUL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K1-Low-power-tp4248493p4255848.html Sent from the [K1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
Need to learn to count there hector, that number seems a bit high based on my calculation more like 6-7k. 1 yen roughly equals $0.01. So not so much. I think you added multiple K3's in there, if you just added up all the colums. The price is even lower if you dont get factory built. Matt W8ESE 心正即刀正 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese [END of thread]
Guys - Lets end this thread for now. This is something we are acutely aware of and are constantly working on. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
In N1MM on entry window, click config in menu bar. About half way down, click on Dual RX always on. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:06 AM, bob finger fin...@goeaston.net wrote: I'm a brand new K3 user. Had it since yesterday and already love it. I want to use the radio in split with both receivers linked all the time. Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so radio stays in split mode? Thanks for the help. 73 bob de w9ge -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
There are several other issues with N1MM Logger and the K3. 1) N1MM Logger sets the wrong sideband when changing bands because it sets mode before changing frequencies 2) N1MM logger drops out of run when operating split and tuning VFO A (receive VFO) 3) the UP/DN keys for moving RIT operate in a fixed 20 Hz or 100 Hz step instead of the values set in the N1MM configuration. 4) N1MM Logger does not follow the split/sub status set on the transceiver front panel (even though support is present in the K3 CAT protocol to determine sub/split status). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:46 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question Bob, you're touching on a couple of areas where N1MM Logger's control of the K3 isn't rock solid. The best you can probably do for now is to check the config setting dual rx always on. With that setting, the subrx should stay on when a spot is grabbed. Personally, I'd like the software to leave the subrx alone and allow me to control it manually, but haven't been able to persuade the programmers. With the current N1MM implementation, you must use the program to set and reset split mode via alt-f7. Otherwise, it doesn't know of any changes to split status. This is another area that needs programming attention. Hopefully, N1MM Logger will improve in these two areas of K3 control in the near future. 73, Barry N1EU bob finger wrote: Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so radio stays in split mode? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/k3-and-N1MM-question-tp4255584p4255791.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] W2 Firmware Suggestion
Bill, I find once I set on the PC it stays on even when I shut down. This may not be reflected in the current manual. I think there will be additional work on the software. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Miner Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Firmware Suggestion With all the recent discussion about the W2 I decided to actually read the on-line manual and check the specs for my self. Upon further reading I discovered that to set the SWR alarm feature it is necessary to have a PC connected and to set the alarm each time the unit is powered up. If possible, it would be nice to be able to turn on the alarm feature from the front panel of the W2 and once set, have the alarm enable in memory so that it was not necessary to do this every time the unit is power cycled.. OBTW I am very pleased with the current firmware load for the K3. Thanks 73, Bill - K6WLM K3 K2 KX1 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
Perhaps related to 4 -- clicking on a spot in VFO-A bandmap turns off the sub-receiver if it's on. --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question To: 'Barry N1EU' barry.n...@gmail.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:32 AM There are several other issues with N1MM Logger and the K3. 1) N1MM Logger sets the wrong sideband when changing bands because it sets mode before changing frequencies 2) N1MM logger drops out of run when operating split and tuning VFO A (receive VFO) 3) the UP/DN keys for moving RIT operate in a fixed 20 Hz or 100 Hz step instead of the values set in the N1MM configuration. 4) N1MM Logger does not follow the split/sub status set on the transceiver front panel (even though support is present in the K3 CAT protocol to determine sub/split status). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:46 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question Bob, you're touching on a couple of areas where N1MM Logger's control of the K3 isn't rock solid. The best you can probably do for now is to check the config setting dual rx always on. With that setting, the subrx should stay on when a spot is grabbed. Personally, I'd like the software to leave the subrx alone and allow me to control it manually, but haven't been able to persuade the programmers. With the current N1MM implementation, you must use the program to set and reset split mode via alt-f7. Otherwise, it doesn't know of any changes to split status. This is another area that needs programming attention. Hopefully, N1MM Logger will improve in these two areas of K3 control in the near future. 73, Barry N1EU bob finger wrote: Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so radio stays in split mode? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/k3-and-N1MM-question-tp4255584p4255791.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
OOps, missed this one. Sorry. --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question To: bob finger fin...@goeaston.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:26 AM In N1MM on entry window, click config in menu bar. About half way down, click on Dual RX always on. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:06 AM, bob finger fin...@goeaston.net wrote: I'm a brand new K3 user. Had it since yesterday and already love it. I want to use the radio in split with both receivers linked all the time. Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so radio stays in split mode? Thanks for the help. 73 bob de w9ge -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] W2 Firmware Suggestion
Hi, Bill! The ability to save the Alarm state was added in rev 0.93 (rev 0.94 is the current rev). You still need a pc to set it, but it will stay that way from then on. The front panel Sensor button clears the Alarm message (flashing SWR LED's) and resets for the next high SWR condition. Please use the Elecraft W2 Utility program to update your W2's firmware and enjoy this feature. If you are not familiar... http://www.elecraft.com/software/W2/elecraft_w2_software.htm 73, Brian, W6FVI W2 Firmware Engineer Elecraft, Inc. Bill Miner wrote: With all the recent discussion about the W2 I decided to actually read the on-line manual and check the specs for my self. Upon further reading I discovered that to set the SWR alarm feature it is necessary to have a PC connected and to set the alarm each time the unit is powered up. If possible, it would be nice to be able to turn on the alarm feature from the front panel of the W2 and once set, have the alarm enable in memory so that it was not necessary to do this every time the unit is power cycled.. OBTW I am very pleased with the current firmware load for the K3. Thanks 73, Bill - K6WLM K3 K2 KX1 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
I think someone has shifted a decimal point me thinks, I've heard of profit mark-up, but this during a resession beats the lotHi Ken..G0ORH Sent from my iPhone On 5 Jan 2010, at 15:38, Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com wrote: WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf ) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham
Wes, Do share your 30A smart charger. It's easy enough to find information for lower current chargers, but less so for something in this range. cheers, Julius Wes Stewart wrote: Steve, Congratulations and welcome. I can't recommend a manufactured antenna since I make all of my own, which I encourage you to do eventually. I do understand your desire to get on quickly, though and I suspect you will get a lot of recommendations, some better than others. As to the battery, I use a Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) 92 AH battery made by East Penn Manufacturing and sold under their Deka brand. (http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/assets/base/0139.pdf) I have it on continuous charge via a home-built 30A smart charger. The charger to battery circuit (both wires) is fused at 30A and the radio circuit is fused at 25A. In addition I use a battery boost regulator made by TGE (http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Detail.bok?no=11) to provide a constant 14.1V at the radio regardless of battery state, and the inevitable voltage drop in the wiring. I can tell you that at the 100W level, without the charger running and the booster off, it doesn't take long before the K3 is beeping and warning about low battery voltage. This system was put together for RV/Field Day use, but I also use it in the fixed location when the RV is in storage, even though I have an Astron RM-35 sitting right next to the charger. Wes N7WS --- On Mon, 1/4/10, KC2VNI st...@smarrano.com wrote: From: KC2VNI st...@smarrano.com Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 User and New Ham To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 6:19 PM Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an auto-tuner. Several basic questions: 1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire antenna pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? 2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer support from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at 100W. What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of a help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please advise. 73, KC2VNI. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4256252.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:32:45 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: There are several other issues with N1MM Logger and the K3. Yes. While I like the N1MM logger, use it, and recommend it to others, it has it's problems, and those who write the software don't like to be told about them. I learned that the hard way -- when I did, they took me off their email list. :) My primary issues are 1) If the exchange you enter isn't what N1MM is programmed to accept, it won't log the QSO, BUT IT WON'T TELL YOU! I worked KP2D, but because the country file was old it didn't believe KP2D was a good call, so it refused to save it. Why wasn't the country file good? Because N1MM had crashed halfway throught the contest, and I hadn't reloaded the current one. So I made this QSO, but it's not in my log. I lose the Q, and the other guy gets penalized for two QSOs! I asked for a switch setting to ALWAYS SAVE a Q, no matter what, and let me fix it later. They refused to do that. Why? They don't want N1MM to save a bad QSO. 2) You're running and start to respond to a station who calls you but hear him repeat his call, so you stop sending (ESC). You're using their Enter Sends Message mode, so ENTER should send your exchange. But because you hit escape, it now asks the other station for a fill rather than sending your exchange. Makes you look stupid and slows everything down, in a very common situation. In comparison to these issues, control issues with the K3 are minor. :) 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham
Welcome Steve! I think you'll find if you can build a K3, a simple antenna will be a piece of cake to construct, not to mention a lot less expensive. The biggest problem you will have is making a choice. A dipole is a good place to start, vertical or the traditional horizontal configuration. There are plenty of places online to find dimensions, or calculate them. Verticals are popular to, but require decent radials to work well. A half Square is another option. It would be easier if you provide a bit more detail about the tree(s) and what your intended area of interest might be (DXing, Ragchewing, contesting, etc.) Here is one place to start: http://www.dxzone.com On batteries, this paper is worth reading to learn more about specific batteries and their properties: http://www.norcalqrp.org/files/Batteries_and_Charging_Systems_KK6MC_whitepaper.pdf An option is to look for a place that supplies batteries for UPS systems to the telecommunication industry. We have one that sells to the public and often you can buy batteries that are perfectly acceptable for ham radio, that are no longer usable for cell systems. Some are used, or exceed the industry's shelf life requirements. I recently purchased new 150AH deep cycle batteries for under $100. They work fine. Yellow Tops are another car/boat variety that are popular in some ham circles, they're pricey new. You'll most likely want to consider buying or building a current balun for you feed line. What type will be dictated by the antenna. Make sure you ground your station correctly and don't leave the rig connected to your antenna when not in use. Trust me, it will save you a lot of headaches ;o) You can do an awful lot with QRP too. It will be a lot easier on you battery... Cheers, Julius KC2VNI wrote: Folks: I am a new ham. I just purchased a K3 100W radio with an auto-tuner. Several basic questions: 1) Wire antennas- Do you guys have suggestions for a multi-band wire antenna pre-made by someone like MFJ or similar that I could hang in a tree? 2) Battery based power: From speaking with the fellow from customer support from elecraft, a 100 Amp-Hr battery is what is required to operate at 100W. What type of battery do I use? Is sealed-lead acid acceptable? What size fuses do I want on the line running from the radio to the battery? I recognize that this radio has orders of magnitude of capability that I don't understand yet. I also recognize that reading the manual will be of a help here. If you have further resources and/or suggestions, please advise. 73, KC2VNI. - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4256357.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:20:07 -0600, Tom Hammond wrote: Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. While I appalud your willingness to share, there is another good solution. What we really need is a stereo to mono breakout cable that has a 3-circuit male plug wired for stereo, split to two mono jacks. Here's the problem -- Radio Schlock, Worst Buy, and their ilk pushed the real connector mfrs out of the market with cheaply made connectors and adapter cables, but they don't sell the cable we need. The GOOD connectors are made by Switchcraft and Neutrik. In North America, we can buy these parts from vendors like Newark, Allied, Digikey, etc. The catch is that they cost more than a buck, and hams can be cheap, so they think they're too expensive. They're not -- they are of much higher quality, don't have the melting insulation and lousy contact material problems of the cheap connectors, and are far more robust mechanically. The solution is simple. Simply belly up to the bar and place an order with one of these real electronics vendors for real connectors and build your own adapters. Now a brickbat to Elecraft. Speakers are individual products, they don't come wired with 3-circuit plugs, and as noted above, it's not easy to buy parts to build adapters. What Elecraft SHOULD have done is provide TWO output jacks, not one. They played cheap (or dumb, to the extent that they were ignorant of the marketplace). Now to fix it? Rebuilding the I/O panel is costly. A better fix for their design error is to provide the unique breakout cable that is required. It has long been good practice when selling quality electronics products to ship unique connectors and or cable assemblies with the product, especially when they are not commonly available in the marketplace. This breakout cable is exactly such a unique part. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought
From Julius Fazekas N2WN... ...I would go for a remote ATU from Elecraft too (nudge nudge wink wink)... I've fond of remote matching units and use them routinely. Perhaps Elecraft can consider aquiring a small startup tuner manufacturer. Would that be helpful in getting into remote matching? 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
Sounds good to me! What is the supplier and part number so I can order! 73 Keith W8GX On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:20:07 -0600, Tom Hammond wrote: Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. While I appalud your willingness to share, there is another good solution. What we really need is a stereo to mono breakout cable that has a 3-circuit male plug wired for stereo, split to two mono jacks. Here's the problem -- Radio Schlock, Worst Buy, and their ilk pushed the real connector mfrs out of the market with cheaply made connectors and adapter cables, but they don't sell the cable we need. The GOOD connectors are made by Switchcraft and Neutrik. In North America, we can buy these parts from vendors like Newark, Allied, Digikey, etc. The catch is that they cost more than a buck, and hams can be cheap, so they think they're too expensive. They're not -- they are of much higher quality, don't have the melting insulation and lousy contact material problems of the cheap connectors, and are far more robust mechanically. The solution is simple. Simply belly up to the bar and place an order with one of these real electronics vendors for real connectors and build your own adapters. Now a brickbat to Elecraft. Speakers are individual products, they don't come wired with 3-circuit plugs, and as noted above, it's not easy to buy parts to build adapters. What Elecraft SHOULD have done is provide TWO output jacks, not one. They played cheap (or dumb, to the extent that they were ignorant of the marketplace). Now to fix it? Rebuilding the I/O panel is costly. A better fix for their design error is to provide the unique breakout cable that is required. It has long been good practice when selling quality electronics products to ship unique connectors and or cable assemblies with the product, especially when they are not commonly available in the marketplace. This breakout cable is exactly such a unique part. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought
Ed, Me too! I even wrote Wayne directly almost begging Elecraft to interface their current technology with simple remoting system. It would be nice to have options including one requiring no more that power line and RF with included interface for the W2. I would want this in a high power version as well. No one that I am aware other than MFJ has units that work remotely, but I like the Elecraft designs best and it would be greater to have available in kit form too. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward Dickinson, III Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:00 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought From Julius Fazekas N2WN... ...I would go for a remote ATU from Elecraft too (nudge nudge wink wink)... I've fond of remote matching units and use them routinely. Perhaps Elecraft can consider aquiring a small startup tuner manufacturer. Would that be helpful in getting into remote matching? 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
Jim Brown wrote: Now a brickbat to Elecraft. Speakers are individual products, they don't come wired with 3-circuit plugs, and as noted above, it's not easy to buy parts to build adapters. What Elecraft SHOULD have done is provide TWO output jacks, not one. They played cheap (or dumb, to the extent that they were ignorant of the marketplace). Now to fix it? Rebuilding the I/O panel is costly. A better fix for their design error is to provide the unique breakout cable that is required. I disagree. Many non-amplified computer speaker pairs are available with a stereo 1/8 phone plug. The ubiquity of this jack as the output on PCs has made this connector a de-facto standard. I do not feel this is a weakness in the design. If one can't find an acceptable (to him/her) pair of speakers with this plug, Then just get the Y adapter at the Shack, cut the ends off and rewire as needed. Most Amateurs know which end of the soldering iron to hold, right? This whole thread has outlived it's usefulness, IMO. Bruce N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham
Thanks for the many fine comments. I only have the 1 tall tree. It is approximately 25-30 feet high. It is dead so there is no way I am going to harm it (accordingly, this is not a concern). Here's the take-away I got from reading your many fine suggestions thus far: - Make sure you do some research on the type of antenna you want to get. (I am an electrical engineer by background but RF engineering and antennas is NOT my strong suit.) - Make sure you get some height to your antenna. I purchased the Buddi Pole system BUT I understand that any form of antenna like this is NOT going to give you good performance. - It is probably a good idea to use some of the local hams here to get some help with the antenna system as they can help out with picking this. - Battery power may or may not be appropriate for continuous operations of the equipment. - I am not so concerned about getting a Ferrari for a radio as my 1st one (in lieu of something closer to a Chevy) as I believe that the manual is fairly well laid out. The big concern here is context. Example: it's nice to know HOW to perform an alignment of the radio BUT the question for the beginner is What does alignment actually do?. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4256584.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Utility Version 1.2.12.28 available on Elecraft web site
The Windows K3 Utility has been updated to correct a bug in the K3 date setting routine. Several K3 command macro samples have been added to the Help text. Automated Tx Gain calibration (using the K3 Utility's Calibrate Transmitter Gain button) now writes a file containing a TXGN value for each of the calibration frequencies at each of the calibration power levels. The resulting file can be viewed with a new Display Tx Gain Summary button on the Calibration tab page. The values in this file may be useful for problem diagnosis with K3 technical support. There's no reason to run TX Gain calibration again just to write this file unless requested by K3 technical support. A hyperlink to the K3 Utility setup file is located near the bottom of the Elecraft K3 software web page, http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm Dick, K6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham
Steve, Your tree may be an opportunity for putting up a horizontal or sloped delta loop antenna. The lowest operating frequency would depend primarily on the total length of wire you put up. A total length for a loop antenna should be close to the wavelength of your lowest frequency of operation but with a good tuner there is a lot of room to play. A friend of mine has a sloped delta loop with one corner high up in a palm tree (about 75 feet up) and the other two corners are at roof top level stretching the 50 feet across the length of his house. I think he has about 280 feet of wire so you can see that it would be a narrow delta loop (similar in fact to one that I have). But, his performance over the years from 80 meters on up to 10 meters has been good. I also have a delta loop with one corner up a fir tree about 70 feet and the other two corners in two other fir trees about 55 feet apart from each other and each up to about 50 feet height. I couple that using a Palstar BT1500A balanced line antenna tuner -- I feed the antenna using 450 ohm window style ladder line. It is my best antenna. I also have a Traffie 5-bander Hex Beam which is also a very good antenna. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jan 5, 2010, at 10:27 AM, KC2VNI wrote: Thanks for the many fine comments. I only have the 1 tall tree. It is approximately 25-30 feet high. It is dead so there is no way I am going to harm it (accordingly, this is not a concern). Here's the take-away I got from reading your many fine suggestions thus far: - Make sure you do some research on the type of antenna you want to get. (I am an electrical engineer by background but RF engineering and antennas is NOT my strong suit.) - Make sure you get some height to your antenna. I purchased the Buddi Pole system BUT I understand that any form of antenna like this is NOT going to give you good performance. - It is probably a good idea to use some of the local hams here to get some help with the antenna system as they can help out with picking this. - Battery power may or may not be appropriate for continuous operations of the equipment. - I am not so concerned about getting a Ferrari for a radio as my 1st one (in lieu of something closer to a Chevy) as I believe that the manual is fairly well laid out. The big concern here is context. Example: it's nice to know HOW to perform an alignment of the radio BUT the question for the beginner is What does alignment actually do?. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4256584.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K1] RE: K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Hello Rick, I'm glad I could help. It seems you are very close to closing the box, and making 1st CW QSO with the K1. If you have the antenna connected and the band is open, we can try to set a sked, so I can contact Long Beach(just checked QRZ.com). My lot is small as well, and my main antenna is a WIMO GP with radials for 15m/20m, and now it is cold I have installed in-house below the roof an inverted V, loaded with coals to make it fit below the roof. Anyway, good luck with the K1, I made so far in~3 months 50 CW QSO's, worked many new countries, it's really fun, and so nice quit to listen through the 200Hz filter. The nicest contact so far was VK4. Good DX, 73 Marc Van: Rick/WA6ES [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+4253616-2118861...@n2.nabble.com] Verzonden: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:02 AM Aan: Marc PE1FJN Onderwerp: Re: K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power Marc Well I worked on the winding spacing and got it up to a little over 4 watts, actually 4.4, so that did help. I sent off an email to Elecraft yesterday when I posted this and no answer yet, maybe I will call them and talk to Scott there. I have to get a couple of speaker slides, heck those things are small! I even played with the 40m section and got another watt out there also! Can I live with 4.4 watts on 20,maybe, but if I get more pwr out, even better. Thanks again for the info Rick/WA6ES Marc PE1FJN wrote: Hello Rick, HNY2010. When I had output power problems at 15m, not at 20m, I increased the output power by 'tuning' the low pass output filter (L9/L10, L11/L12), suggested by ELECRAFT. By bringing windings together I was able to get the required output. It does not look as nice when having the windings evenly spread, but in the end the output power is more important. Make sure you have a dummy load when checking Pout, as when VSWR is poor, depending of the COAX length you will see high or low max output power on display K1. Reason: K1 is measuring Vpeak out, and calculates it back to power. So reading on display is only reliable when you have 50ohm, or have installed the internal antenna tuner. Also make sure you have 13.8V, Pout max between 12V and 13.8V makes a difference. I run it at 12V, Power is 5W at 15m/20m band, while running at 13.8V I can easily get up to 7Watt. For me 12V is fine. If tuning of the coils does not work, contact elecraft support, and refer to power problems from PE1FJN October this year at 15m SN: 2761. I changed 1 resistor on instructions from ELECRAFT. At this moment I have now no access to this mail(sorry), but I'm sure you will be able to get the same instructions. Having changed this resistor power was very fine, and not marginal anymore. Hope this helps, 73 PE1FJN Marc K1 SN:2761 PS: Good Luck, at 20m DX is really nice with this RIG. _ View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/K1-Low-power-tp4248493p4253616.html To unsubscribe from Re: K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power, click (link removed) vbWUubmx8NDI1MTY0OXwyOTg2MTMxODQ= here. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K1-Low-power-tp4248493p4256646.html Sent from the [K1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Anyone receive their K144XV yet?
Limited shipments were scheduled to begin on 12/24, and more last week. Have any been received and installed? -Bruce N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese
WOW !! You are telling me that a ham in japan who will like to purchase a fully loaded K3 will have to pay almost twenty two grands? Unbelivable,with that amount I can buy me two IC-7800,poor guys,that is not good for them at all. It will be better for them to order it directly from Elecraft and pay all the transportation expenses I guess. AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 3:48 PM Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote: WOW ! according that pdf document(http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf) If we add all the modules and filters price for a fully loaded K3,it will cost in japan 2,014,200 (two million fourteen thousand two hundred)yens,can anyone say how many USD is that amount,sounds like a lot AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories) at http://www.edcjp.jp/shop/order-K3.pdf Note that the pdf includes Japanese so parts of the page may not render properly depending on the pdf reader you may have.. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] K1 Low power, Suggestion to increase output power
Rick, Certainly - to measure any LPF, here is how to do it, along with the K1 band board pin information: In general, you just isolate the LPF, terminate one side and scan the other side with the antenna analyzer. Conceptually it is easy. What gets complicated is how to isolate the LPF - it differs from one radio to another. For the K1, you must remove the band board AFTER setting the band to the one to be scanned - fortunately there are latching relays. After the band board is removed, connect a 51 ohm resistor between pins 2 and 3 of P3 - then devise a means of connecting the antenna analyzer to pin 9 (or 10) of J2 and ground. Making those connections will depend on what one has in the shack - certainly the resistor could be soldered to the solder side of P3 and a short piece of coax (inches long) can be soldered onto the solder side of J2, but there are other means if one has some header material lying around to make up a temporary fixture that can simply be plugged to the board. Having made the connections, then the analyzer is scanned over the band of interest observing the SWR - it should be low, and should climb as the frequency is increased above the band, and should be quite high at the 2nd harmonic of the lower band edge. For the KAT1, it includes a wattmeter, but that must be calibrated to read the correct power - the K1 uses the wattmeter output to control the actual output power, so it is natural that the K1 LCD bargraph agrees with the OUT setting. You can calibrate the wattmeter simply by making it match whatever external wattmeter you have, or use something more accurate, like the detector on the Elecraft DL1. Be aware that there is a lot of discrepancy in wattmeter readings, and I don't trust many of them until they have proven their accuracy. I do have several tools that can be used for that task, but my most basic 'instrument' is a known good 50 ohm dummy load that is flat over the frequency range to be used. I read the RF voltage across the dummy load with my oscilloscope and a 10X probe, then compute the power - it is quick and easy because the 'scope reads peak to peak RF voltage and the formula for power reduces to V^2/8*R or V^2/400 for a 50 ohm load - easy and quick to punch the numbers in on a calculator. I have posted that formula derivation on the reflector before, so now if anyone wants to check it, you can derive your own or check the archives - Hint: use the exact expression sqrt2/2 when reducing the formula for RMS conversion, if you try it with 0.707 you will go nuts (the sqrt2 terms drop out when the formula is reduced). 73, Don W3FPR Rick/WA6ES wrote: Byron I am using the meter on the K1. I also have an MFJ Tuner/meter combo for QRP that is not that accurate. I will be purchasing a new meter soon. Not sure about the KAT1 issue, that is my next purchase along with the Battery pack. Maybe Don/W3FPR could help answer this. Don Yes please tell me how to read the cut off Freq. I have the MFJ type. Thanks Rick/WA6ES Byron Servies-2 wrote: On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Rick/WA6ES wrote: How are you measuring the power output? With my new K1 using a DL1 and KAT1 I get exactly the number of bars on the TX LCD bar graph as I set in the output menu for power output using a 13.8 vold power supply, from 2 to 7. This is true for all 4 bands, with the only difference being if I don't tune it takes a few CQ's for the KAT1 to catch up, as expected. Just curious what I might be missing, Byron KI6NUL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
I have a few of these cables that I stash away from other electronics. Its a stereo 1/8 plug that breaks out to two RCA male plugs. You get these alot when you buy TVs, VCRs, CD players and the such. At the time I don't need them so I just toss them into a box for future use. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Jan 5 9:53 , Jim Brown sent: On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:20:07 -0600, Tom Hammond wrote: Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. While I appalud your willingness to share, there is another good solution. What we really need is a stereo to mono breakout cable that has a 3-circuit male plug wired for stereo, split to two mono jacks. Here's the problem -- Radio Schlock, Worst Buy, and their ilk pushed the real connector mfrs out of the market with cheaply made connectors and adapter cables, but they don't sell the cable we need. The GOOD connectors are made by Switchcraft and Neutrik. In North America, we can buy these parts from vendors like Newark, Allied, Digikey, etc. The catch is that they cost more than a buck, and hams can be cheap, so they think they're too expensive. They're not -- they are of much higher quality, don't have the melting insulation and lousy contact material problems of the cheap connectors, and are far more robust mechanically. The solution is simple. Simply belly up to the bar and place an order with one of these real electronics vendors for real connectors and build your own adapters. Now a brickbat to Elecraft. Speakers are individual products, they don't come wired with 3-circuit plugs, and as noted above, it's not easy to buy parts to build adapters. What Elecraft SHOULD have done is provide TWO output jacks, not one. They played cheap (or dumb, to the extent that they were ignorant of the marketplace). Now to fix it? Rebuilding the I/O panel is costly. A better fix for their design error is to provide the unique breakout cable that is required. It has long been good practice when selling quality electronics products to ship unique connectors and or cable assemblies with the product, especially when they are not commonly available in the marketplace. This breakout cable is exactly such a unique part. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
I am sure I can scrounge up at least a few of these cables. 1/8 stereo male to two RCA Males. Cables are about 3ft long. If you are interested you can send me $3 to cover the cost of a small padded envelope and shipping and I'll send what I have. I'll make a list of responses and then dig out what I can find. Don't send me anything till I confirm with each person. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Jan 5 10:02 , Keith Hamilton sent: Sounds good to me! What is the supplier and part number so I can order! 73 Keith W8GX On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:20:07 -0600, Tom Hammond wrote: Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. While I appalud your willingness to share, there is another good solution. What we really need is a stereo to mono breakout cable that has a 3-circuit male plug wired for stereo, split to two mono jacks. Here's the problem -- Radio Schlock, Worst Buy, and their ilk pushed the real connector mfrs out of the market with cheaply made connectors and adapter cables, but they don't sell the cable we need. The GOOD connectors are made by Switchcraft and Neutrik. In North America, we can buy these parts from vendors like Newark, Allied, Digikey, etc. The catch is that they cost more than a buck, and hams can be cheap, so they think they're too expensive. They're not -- they are of much higher quality, don't have the melting insulation and lousy contact material problems of the cheap connectors, and are far more robust mechanically. The solution is simple. Simply belly up to the bar and place an order with one of these real electronics vendors for real connectors and build your own adapters. Now a brickbat to Elecraft. Speakers are individual products, they don't come wired with 3-circuit plugs, and as noted above, it's not easy to buy parts to build adapters. What Elecraft SHOULD have done is provide TWO output jacks, not one. They played cheap (or dumb, to the extent that they were ignorant of the marketplace). Now to fix it? Rebuilding the I/O panel is costly. A better fix for their design error is to provide the unique breakout cable that is required. It has long been good practice when selling quality electronics products to ship unique connectors and or cable assemblies with the product, especially when they are not commonly available in the marketplace. This breakout cable is exactly such a unique part. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought
Bill - Thanks for chiming in. As I recall the two amplifiers that Elecraft has worked on were 800 and 1500 Watts. Maybe an 800 Watt unit would be a good place to start on the high end. 73, Dick - KA5KKT -- Ed, Me too! I even wrote Wayne directly almost begging Elecraft to interface their current technology with simple remoting system. It would be nice to have options including one requiring no more that power line and RF with included interface for the W2. I would want this in a high power version as well. No one that I am aware other than MFJ has units that work remotely, but I like the Elecraft designs best and it would be greater to have available in kit form too. 73, Bill K9YEQ -- From Julius Fazekas N2WN... ...I would go for a remote ATU from Elecraft too (nudge nudge wink wink)... I've fond of remote matching units and use them routinely. Perhaps Elecraft can consider aquiring a small startup tuner manufacturer. Would that be helpful in getting into remote matching? 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Version 1.2.12.28 available on Elecraft web site
Dick, Looks like you win the first update of the year award!!! 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 KX1 (FIeld tester); K3; W2; mini mods -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:40 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Utility Version 1.2.12.28 available on Elecraft web site The Windows K3 Utility has been updated to correct a bug in the K3 date setting routine. Several K3 command macro samples have been added to the Help text. Automated Tx Gain calibration (using the K3 Utility's Calibrate Transmitter Gain button) now writes a file containing a TXGN value for each of the calibration frequencies at each of the calibration power levels. The resulting file can be viewed with a new Display Tx Gain Summary button on the Calibration tab page. The values in this file may be useful for problem diagnosis with K3 technical support. There's no reason to run TX Gain calibration again just to write this file unless requested by K3 technical support. A hyperlink to the K3 Utility setup file is located near the bottom of the Elecraft K3 software web page, http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm Dick, K6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham
Steve I got my license at age 15. I read in the ARRL Handbook how to make a 40 meter dipole. I got mom to take me to an electrical store where I bought some wire and RG58 coax. I threw ropes over tree limbs and put up this dipole, connected it to my $50 rig and was on the air before the license even came. Believe me, I did not have a background in RF engineering and antennas nor did I have any money. Hey...I'm not trying to put you down or anything but surely this isn't asking too much is it? I must admitI did visit a local ham and looked at his 20 meter dipole to see how he built it. I think this would be your best bet. You will get too many suggestions here. Just go see what others are doing and copy it. If I lived near you I would be glad to rush over and help you turn your dead tree into an antenna support. You have the best rig money can buy. Do some self study and by all means learn how to make a wire antenna if nothing else. PS: Don't let any dead limbs fall on your head. Gravity has side effects. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: KC2VNI st...@smarrano.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham Thanks for the many fine comments. I only have the 1 tall tree. It is approximately 25-30 feet high. It is dead so there is no way I am going to harm it (accordingly, this is not a concern). Here's the take-away I got from reading your many fine suggestions thus far: - Make sure you do some research on the type of antenna you want to get. (I am an electrical engineer by background but RF engineering and antennas is NOT my strong suit.) - Make sure you get some height to your antenna. I purchased the Buddi Pole system BUT I understand that any form of antenna like this is NOT going to give you good performance. - It is probably a good idea to use some of the local hams here to get some help with the antenna system as they can help out with picking this. - Battery power may or may not be appropriate for continuous operations of the equipment. - I am not so concerned about getting a Ferrari for a radio as my 1st one (in lieu of something closer to a Chevy) as I believe that the manual is fairly well laid out. The big concern here is context. Example: it's nice to know HOW to perform an alignment of the radio BUT the question for the beginner is What does alignment actually do?. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4256584.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2601 - Release Date: 01/05/10 02:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 and N1MM question
2) You're running and start to respond to a station who calls you but hear him repeat his call, so you stop sending (ESC). You're using their Enter Sends Message mode, so ENTER should send your exchange. But because you hit escape, it now asks the other station for a fill rather than sending your exchange. Makes you look stupid and slows everything down, in a very common situation. Been there, done that, looked stupid. Consequently, a new Q signal to be used while I'm madly correcting the errors: QFC - I have a computer problem, please standby VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Smart Charger
Julius, et. al, My charger is actually a marriage of some commercial gear with a few tweaks. The motivation for this was the absolutely horrible RFI from the switch-mode charger in my 5th wheel trailer. It was so bad that when I had the trailer stored here at home the RFI would actually interfere with OTA TV, so you can imagine what it did to the ham bands. Rather than reinventing the wheel, I used an Astron RS-35M for its case, metering, raw DC, heat sink and pass transistors. Rather than building my own board, I married this to an AA Engineering smart charger board, (http://www.a-aengineering.com/150PCAAppNotes.pdf) doing a little trickery to allow the use of a fixed current sense resistor while still having some adjustment of the max charge current. The heart of this circuit is the UC3906 integrated circuit that is designed for just this purpose. (http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/uc3906.html) I shopped the idea of an article about this to ARRL but they weren't interested, so I never completed any further documentation. Wes N7WS --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:17 AM Wes, Do share your 30A smart charger. It's easy enough to find information for lower current chargers, but less so for something in this range. cheers, Julius __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM question
2) You're running and start to respond to a station who calls you but hear him repeat his call, so you stop sending (ESC). You're using their Enter Sends Message mode, so ENTER should send your exchange. But because you hit escape, it now asks the other station for a fill rather than sending your exchange. Makes you look stupid and slows everything down, in a very common situation. Yes, ESM is not perfect. You have to keep an eye on the screen to see what it is going to do next, because every now and then the focus is in the wrong place, causing ESM to be in the wrong state and do the wrong thing. Usually when the focus is in the wrong place a bash on the space bar will put it back where you wanted it. The other option is not to rely too heavily on the Enter key. Even with ESM on, you can use the function keys, Ins, ' and ; keys, and you can log without sending anything with Alt+Enter (or Ctrl+Alt+Enter if the program won't let you log a contact because of an apparently defective call sign or exchange). As with any complex software, it takes some experimenting to learn how to use it effectively, especially if you are coming from a different software package. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese [Ended]
Hi Hector - Its nowhere near this high. Someone added incorrectly. Again - Let's please end this thread. Anyone with questions on this, please feel free to email me. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Hector Padron wrote: WOW !! You are telling me that a ham in japan who will like to purchase a fully loaded K3 will have to pay almost twenty two grands? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Smart Charger
You might take a look at the Jetstream JTPS35BCMA. It includes volt and ammeters, connections for the rig plus low amp connections for accessories and a connection point for the battery. The switch to battery is automatic when AC power is lost. The artifacts are reasonable and liveable. On the down side, the fan comes on with a 1 amp load and is noiser that I would like, but liveable. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 1:22:47 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Smart Charger Julius, et. al, My charger is actually a marriage of some commercial gear with a few tweaks. The motivation for this was the absolutely horrible RFI from the switch-mode charger in my 5th wheel trailer. It was so bad that when I had the trailer stored here at home the RFI would actually interfere with OTA TV, so you can imagine what it did to the ham bands. Rather than reinventing the wheel, I used an Astron RS-35M for its case, metering, raw DC, heat sink and pass transistors. Rather than building my own board, I married this to an AA Engineering smart charger board, (http://www.a-aengineering.com/150PCAAppNotes.pdf) doing a little trickery to allow the use of a fixed current sense resistor while still having some adjustment of the max charge current. The heart of this circuit is the UC3906 integrated circuit that is designed for just this purpose. (http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/uc3906.html) I shopped the idea of an article about this to ARRL but they weren't interested, so I never completed any further documentation. Wes N7WS --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:17 AM Wes, Do share your 30A smart charger. It's easy enough to find information for lower current chargers, but less so for something in this range. cheers, Julius __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Smart Charger --- and, technical note library suggestion
Wes and others... There is such a wealth of technical information on this reflector that I am a little surprised and maybe a little disappointed that the Elecraft technical notes section of their web site is so sparse. I would like to see a program where some peer reviewed articles are papers are submitted for publication on the Elecraft web site. By peer review, I mean enough review so that an article meets the minimum acceptable rules of Elecraft plus ensuring technical accuracy and fitness for the Elecraft world. Since there are so many helpful volunteers on this reflector, it would not be hard to create a forum for peer review made up of a varied number of volunteer technical wizards. I submit that such an article by Wes would be good fodder for experiment if this is a worthy workable idea. And, there are a lot of others. In fact, I have been following this reflector for about two months now and merely by mining the material contained herein you could create some worthy information useful to the masses. I know there are other such locations on the web that provide such information but something useful for Elecraft would be the common denominator of fitness and purpose to the Elecraft product lineup. Does this make sense, has it been raised before, or maybe there is some hidden corner of the Elecraft web site that I have missed entirely. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: Julius, et. al, My charger is actually a marriage of some commercial gear with a few tweaks. The motivation for this was the absolutely horrible RFI from the switch-mode charger in my 5th wheel trailer. It was so bad that when I had the trailer stored here at home the RFI would actually interfere with OTA TV, so you can imagine what it did to the ham bands. Rather than reinventing the wheel, I used an Astron RS-35M for its case, metering, raw DC, heat sink and pass transistors. Rather than building my own board, I married this to an AA Engineering smart charger board, (http://www.a-aengineering.com/150PCAAppNotes.pdf) doing a little trickery to allow the use of a fixed current sense resistor while still having some adjustment of the max charge current. The heart of this circuit is the UC3906 integrated circuit that is designed for just this purpose. (http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/uc3906.html) I shopped the idea of an article about this to ARRL but they weren't interested, so I never completed any further documentation. Wes N7WS --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:17 AM Wes, Do share your 30A smart charger. It's easy enough to find information for lower current chargers, but less so for something in this range. cheers, Julius __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:02:30 -0500, Keith Hamilton wrote: What is the supplier and part number so I can order! The nickel 3-circuit Neutrik plug is NY231. 2-circuit is NYS226. The 3-circuit jack is NYS240. Add BG suffix for gold contacts, black handle. The Switchcraft cable-mount nickel-plated 2-circuit jack is #125. The mating 2-circuit plug is #750. Since you're building it yourself, you might prefer to use RCA plugs and jacks for your speakers. The Switchcraft cable-mount jack is #3503. The RF version of their male RCA is a #3507. The audio version is a #3502. With an A suffix, it's nickel. AAU suffix is nickel handle, gold contacts. ABAU suffix is black handle, gold contacts. The Neutrik cable-mount nickel-plated RCA jack is NYS372P. The Neutrik male RCA plug is NYS352. Neutrik is a first class connector mfr based in Lichtenstein. I know their management and have been to their factory. Their EMC XLR is based on my design concept, and they paid me for it. :) Like Switchcraft, the other major audio connector company based in Chicago, they're distributed worldwide. Here's a good pro/semi-pro audio vendor located in Madison, WI. I know their owners, husband and wife, good people. Many years ago, I had a sales job competing with them. :) They sell both Neutrik and Switchcraft. http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/NEU/1-8-Mini-Plug-Jack- connectors.html http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/SWC/1-8-Mini-Plug-Jack- connectors.html http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/SWC/Phono-RCA-Pin-Plug.html http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/NEU/Phono-RCA-Pin-Plug.html BH Photo, Markertek, and Sweetwater are also good sources of parts like this. 73, Jim Brown K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 newbie
Steve wrote: PS: Don't let any dead limbs fall on your head. Gravity has side effects. End Snip I would like to reiterate Steve's note. I have on many occasions tied a heavy item onto a piece of rope, swung it around like a cowboy using a lassoo and then let her rip up into a tree. Unfortunately, the tree assumed it was under a terrorist attack and took defensive action by intercepting my salvo and swung into action by deflecting my salvo and returning fire using my missile. The accuracy of the tree is a truly amazing event to witness, unfortunately, I was not attired in appropriate gear (read hard hat) so after I took extreme evasive action I was able to escape with only minor injuries to my hide and my pride. The support from witnessing Hams (hilarious laughter) was gratifying...(:-(( So do please be careful about selecting a way to get the antenna up in the tree. Look up vk4fd in QRZ.COM and you will see how I have avoided a recurrence of my past indiscretions with antennas. 73's and enjoy a great radio Gary VK4FD Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham
Steve - I am new to this hobby as well. The reflector is fantastic and you will end up getting a lot of information and still looking for direction at the end of the day. My advice would be start with a dipole or end fed wire as high up as you can get it. Preferably half wave. So if you working 40 meters, get your dipole 66 feet off the ground. End fed wires from Par Electronics are also a great way to go. Give these a shot and continue to research. You could make a full time job researching antennas if you wanted to. Hope this helps. Frank On 1/5/10, Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Steve I got my license at age 15. I read in the ARRL Handbook how to make a 40 meter dipole. I got mom to take me to an electrical store where I bought some wire and RG58 coax. I threw ropes over tree limbs and put up this dipole, connected it to my $50 rig and was on the air before the license even came. Believe me, I did not have a background in RF engineering and antennas nor did I have any money. Hey...I'm not trying to put you down or anything but surely this isn't asking too much is it? I must admitI did visit a local ham and looked at his 20 meter dipole to see how he built it. I think this would be your best bet. You will get too many suggestions here. Just go see what others are doing and copy it. If I lived near you I would be glad to rush over and help you turn your dead tree into an antenna support. You have the best rig money can buy. Do some self study and by all means learn how to make a wire antenna if nothing else. PS: Don't let any dead limbs fall on your head. Gravity has side effects. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: KC2VNI st...@smarrano.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham Thanks for the many fine comments. I only have the 1 tall tree. It is approximately 25-30 feet high. It is dead so there is no way I am going to harm it (accordingly, this is not a concern). Here's the take-away I got from reading your many fine suggestions thus far: - Make sure you do some research on the type of antenna you want to get. (I am an electrical engineer by background but RF engineering and antennas is NOT my strong suit.) - Make sure you get some height to your antenna. I purchased the Buddi Pole system BUT I understand that any form of antenna like this is NOT going to give you good performance. - It is probably a good idea to use some of the local hams here to get some help with the antenna system as they can help out with picking this. - Battery power may or may not be appropriate for continuous operations of the equipment. - I am not so concerned about getting a Ferrari for a radio as my 1st one (in lieu of something closer to a Chevy) as I believe that the manual is fairly well laid out. The big concern here is context. Example: it's nice to know HOW to perform an alignment of the radio BUT the question for the beginner is What does alignment actually do?. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4256584.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2601 - Release Date: 01/05/10 02:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Frank KD8FIP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
Jim: At 11:53 01/05/2010, Jim Brown wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:20:07 -0600, Tom Hammond wrote: Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. While I appalud your willingness to share, there is another good solution. What we really need is a stereo to mono breakout cable that has a 3-circuit male plug wired for stereo, split to two mono jacks. That's PRECISELY what my adapter is! Of course, it's not 'just' a a cable... Here's the problem -- Radio Schlock, Worst Buy, and their ilk pushed the real connector mfrs out of the market with cheaply made connectors and adapter cables, but they don't sell the cable we need. Agreed. And that's why I designed my own. The GOOD connectors are made by Switchcraft and Neutrik. In North America, we can buy these parts from vendors like Newark, Allied, Digikey, etc. The catch is that they cost more than a buck, and hams can be cheap, so they think they're too expensive. They're not -- they are of much higher quality, don't have the melting insulation and lousy contact material problems of the cheap connectors, and are far more robust mechanically. The solution is simple. Simply belly up to the bar and place an order with one of these real electronics vendors for real connectors and build your own adapters. Ummm... that's my kit... at least I believe it is. Sure looks like it. 73 pal, Tom __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought/Stationmaster
Hi Dick A tuner like the SGC230 from Elecraft would be a nice product. A high power version would even better. To do this properly would require the use of vacuum components, this would make it cost prohibitive for most hams. What we dont need is another limited range remote tuner. The Chinese are flooding the market with these SGC230 knockoffs. We need something like the RF Harris 1kw remote tuner thats big and heavy duty. Most importantly it must be lightning proof and designed properly. The RF Harris antenna tuner can tune anything with good efficiency, even end fed half wave wires. I just noticed on the Microham web page that their new Stationmaster has a stepper motor drive unit that can drive several stepper motors. It would be a easy matter to build a high performance remote antenna tuner using their product. The advantage using this product is that it could be controlled from any HF radio. I am planning on trying the new Stationmaster to remote my HF amp. My amp needs 5 stepper motors to tune it properly. Antenna switching would also be possible using this new Stationmaster. Another application for this new Stationmaster would be a homebrew Steppir vertical or something like that! It looks like a good product. John --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Edward Dickinson, III softb...@windstream.net wrote: From: Edward Dickinson, III softb...@windstream.net Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:00 AM From Julius Fazekas N2WN... ...I would go for a remote ATU from Elecraft too (nudge nudge wink wink)... I've fond of remote matching units and use them routinely. Perhaps Elecraft can consider aquiring a small startup tuner manufacturer. Would that be helpful in getting into remote matching? 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
You stated in your pervious post that there was a breakout cable available. Since I would have to build it either way I will go with the N0SS circuit board. Thanks for the links anyways. 73 Keith W8GX On Jan 5, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:02:30 -0500, Keith Hamilton wrote: What is the supplier and part number so I can order! The nickel 3-circuit Neutrik plug is NY231. 2-circuit is NYS226. The 3-circuit jack is NYS240. Add BG suffix for gold contacts, black handle. The Switchcraft cable-mount nickel-plated 2-circuit jack is #125. The mating 2-circuit plug is #750. Since you're building it yourself, you might prefer to use RCA plugs and jacks for your speakers. The Switchcraft cable-mount jack is #3503. The RF version of their male RCA is a #3507. The audio version is a #3502. With an A suffix, it's nickel. AAU suffix is nickel handle, gold contacts. ABAU suffix is black handle, gold contacts. The Neutrik cable-mount nickel-plated RCA jack is NYS372P. The Neutrik male RCA plug is NYS352. Neutrik is a first class connector mfr based in Lichtenstein. I know their management and have been to their factory. Their EMC XLR is based on my design concept, and they paid me for it. :) Like Switchcraft, the other major audio connector company based in Chicago, they're distributed worldwide. Here's a good pro/semi-pro audio vendor located in Madison, WI. I know their owners, husband and wife, good people. Many years ago, I had a sales job competing with them. :) They sell both Neutrik and Switchcraft. http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/NEU/1-8-Mini-Plug-Jack- connectors.html http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/SWC/1-8-Mini-Plug-Jack- connectors.html http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/SWC/Phono-RCA-Pin-Plug.html http://www.fullcompass.com/brand/NEU/Phono-RCA-Pin-Plug.html BH Photo, Markertek, and Sweetwater are also good sources of parts like this. 73, Jim Brown K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review
http://www.eham.net/reviews/review/87019 Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Disgruntled JA
We call this free trade Doug W6JD - Original Message - From: rfenab...@gmail.com To: Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 4, 2010 2:48:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Disgruntled JA In VK we have a GST exemption from the US provided the goods value (including freight) does not exceed $1,000.00 Australian Dollars. If the item(s) exceed this amount, then a GST of 10 percent is applied. But the freight charges from the US for say an Ameritron 811H amplifier will be added to the sell price of around $800.00 (depending on where you shop) will likely end up at around $1,250.00 or thereabouts. Dealers in VK regularly advertise these amplifiers for $1,799 plus freight, or in one case $1,899.00 delivered anywhere in VK. Even the most liberal thinker would question the difference. Yes the seller will have a list of reasons ready to offer the customer who dares to ask why the price is so high. Customs clearance charges, freight cost's as all this gear comes air freight, GST and warranty allowance etc. Sounds good, till you need to claim on the warranty...(:-)) YMMV 73's Gary VK4FD - Portable Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Beginning The Build of K3 Serial Number #3799
Well, I have spread out the basic components of the K3 kit, serial #3799 on my card table in my den/shack/office/man-cave. I am posting a photo on my Mac web site of the layout. The link is: http://homepage.mac.com/phystad/K3_3799.jpg. The photo does not include the options boxes or the 100 watt PA which are still in the boxes on my desk. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review
I just got off the phone with West Mountian Radio. At this time they do not know when or if the will have the speakers in stock. He said if they can't get them they will be removing them from their web site. Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
The GOOD connectors are made by Switchcraft and Neutrik. In North America, we can buy these parts from vendors like Newark, Allied, Digikey, etc. The solution is simple. Simply belly up to the bar and place an order with one of these real electronics vendors for real connectors and build your own adapters. Agree. What Elecraft SHOULD havedone is provide TWO output jacks, not one. Completely DISagree. Panel space is at a premium, and amplified speakers DO come with a stereo plug. Tip-sleeve plugs are *SO* 1950s. Stick with your first answer. 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought/Stationmaster
I just noticed on the Microham web page that their new Stationmaster has a stepper motor drive unit that can drive several stepper motors. It would be a easy matter to build a high performance remote antenna tuner using their product. The advantage using this product is that it could be controlled from any HF radio. This feature is available in Station Master Deluxe only. Station Master deluxe is not yet available for sale and the stepper motor control will be limited to stored position control only (e.g., it is not suitable for use with a bridge for automatic tuning). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:34 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought/Stationmaster Hi Dick A tuner like the SGC230 from Elecraft would be a nice product. A high power version would even better. To do this properly would require the use of vacuum components, this would make it cost prohibitive for most hams. What we dont need is another limited range remote tuner. The Chinese are flooding the market with these SGC230 knockoffs. We need something like the RF Harris 1kw remote tuner thats big and heavy duty. Most importantly it must be lightning proof and designed properly. The RF Harris antenna tuner can tune anything with good efficiency, even end fed half wave wires. I just noticed on the Microham web page that their new Stationmaster has a stepper motor drive unit that can drive several stepper motors. It would be a easy matter to build a high performance remote antenna tuner using their product. The advantage using this product is that it could be controlled from any HF radio. I am planning on trying the new Stationmaster to remote my HF amp. My amp needs 5 stepper motors to tune it properly. Antenna switching would also be possible using this new Stationmaster. Another application for this new Stationmaster would be a homebrew Steppir vertical or something like that! It looks like a good product. John --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Edward Dickinson, III softb...@windstream.net wrote: From: Edward Dickinson, III softb...@windstream.net Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 10:00 AM From Julius Fazekas N2WN... ...I would go for a remote ATU from Elecraft too (nudge nudge wink wink)... I've fond of remote matching units and use them routinely. Perhaps Elecraft can consider aquiring a small startup tuner manufacturer. Would that be helpful in getting into remote matching? 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:25:47 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Completely DISagree. Panel space is at a premium, and amplified speakers DO come with a stereo plug. Tip-sleeve plugs are *SO* 1950s. Stick with your first answer. Sure, panel space is at a premium. That's why the choice was made. But it's a bad choice, for the reasons stated. The vast majority of AMPLIFIED loudspeakers have severe RFI problems. The appearance of specialized products like the West Mountain units are quite new, and a reaction to that reality. Their website says they come with a 3-circuit 1/8-inch JACK, so you still need a 3-circuit plug to plug patch cable. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:25:47 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Tip-sleeve plugs are *SO* 1950s. I just noticed that the West Mountain Clear Speaker comes with a 1/8-in MONO plug. (I think they mean 2-contact). FWIW, the small passive cube speakers I see at hamfests all come with the same 1/8-inch 2-circuit (MONO) plug. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review
I just got mine from HRO for $39.95 but they were shipped from CA. so I suspect stock is getting low. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: KE4INM ke4...@gmail.com To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review I just got off the phone with West Mountian Radio. At this time they do not know when or if the will have the speakers in stock. He said if they can't get them they will be removing them from their web site. Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2601 - Release Date: 01/05/10 02:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
No...They come with the typical stereo 1/8 plug. 3 contactsTip and 2 rings. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:25:47 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Tip-sleeve plugs are *SO* 1950s. I just noticed that the West Mountain Clear Speaker comes with a 1/8-in MONO plug. (I think they mean 2-contact). FWIW, the small passive cube speakers I see at hamfests all come with the same 1/8-inch 2-circuit (MONO) plug. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2601 - Release Date: 01/05/10 02:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
I am very sorry that I misread your post Jim. i will be looking forward to building my own breakout cable/box using the N0SS circuit board and parts. There is nothing like building your own! 73 Keith W8GX On Jan 5, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:25:47 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Tip-sleeve plugs are *SO* 1950s. I just noticed that the West Mountain Clear Speaker comes with a 1/8-in MONO plug. (I think they mean 2-contact). FWIW, the small passive cube speakers I see at hamfests all come with the same 1/8-inch 2-circuit (MONO) plug. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
It's unfortunate that 1/8-inch TRS jacks have become so popular in the consumer audio world. Their use seems to have accelerated with the advent of PC sound cards. My experience has been that pro-grade 1/4-inch TRS connectors are more reliable than any 1/8-inch type as well as inferior-quality 1/4-inch connectors. But for the fact that these connectors typically carry two circuits, RCA connectors are far more reliable for unbalanced audio connections due to their concentric grip of the inner and outer conductors. Darn, I actually prefer equipment with screw-down barrier strips and where needed, create detachable cords with Molex connectors if a quick disconnect arrangement is needed. TRS jacks utilize a single pressure point and reliability degrades over time -- usually due to oxidation and dust build-up. Lubricants like DeOxit and Cramolin seem to help but if I was to install an Internet-based station at some remote location, I would want to remove all traces of TRS connectors to the best extent possible. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:25:47 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Completely DISagree. Panel space is at a premium, and amplified speakers DO come with a stereo plug. Tip-sleeve plugs are *SO* 1950s. Stick with your first answer. Sure, panel space is at a premium. That's why the choice was made. But it's a bad choice, for the reasons stated. The vast majority of AMPLIFIED loudspeakers have severe RFI problems. The appearance of specialized products like the West Mountain units are quite new, and a reaction to that reality. Their website says they come with a 3-circuit 1/8-inch JACK, so you still need a 3-circuit plug to plug patch cable. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
I'm using a pair of relatively expensive ($135, more than 10 years ago) amplified, Sony PC speakers and haven't noticed any RFI. The instruction leaflet that came with them says they are magnetically shielded, so maybe that's why they're OK with RF. They have an internal 120VAC P/S and are heavy (3#/speaker). They are model SRS-88PC. They sound fine for SSB and CW, though I usually use headphones. And they use a stereo, mini plug! Jim N7US -Original Message- snip The vast majority of AMPLIFIED loudspeakers have severe RFI problems. The appearance of specialized products like the West Mountain units are quite new, and a reaction to that reality. Their website says they come with a 3-circuit 1/8-inch JACK, so you still need a 3-circuit plug to plug patch cable. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3.
Hello friends: I am Ruben from Spain. Around 10 months ago i owned a K3/100 with ATU and original 2.7 filter. I tested it around 2 months and after that i sold it. At that moment i didn't like its audio (very crispy for me) and selectivity with 2.7 filter wasn't better than my old 756pro2. Now i am thinking buy again one K3, but this time with better filters and voice keyer. I my options is also an IC-7600. I think this question has been done lots of times in this list, but excuse me, i have to ask... What do you think? Is audio better in last units? With better filters... A lot better selectivity? Your coments are very helper for my choice. Has anybody tested a k3 and 7600 at same time? Thank's a lot friends and happy 2010. -- Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ http://www.palotes.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
Forgot to add that for high-density applications, Sub-D connectors are excellent when maximum reliability and easy disconnect are needed. I like to use crimp Sub-Ds where the pin can be inserted into the connector body. That goes much faster with better repeatability than the solder Sub-D types. If needed, a fanned break-out cable can be created, using the end connectors of one's choice. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:25:47 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Completely DISagree. Panel space is at a premium, and amplified speakers DO come with a stereo plug. Tip-sleeve plugs are *SO* 1950s. Stick with your first answer. Sure, panel space is at a premium. That's why the choice was made. But it's a bad choice, for the reasons stated. The vast majority of AMPLIFIED loudspeakers have severe RFI problems. The appearance of specialized products like the West Mountain units are quite new, and a reaction to that reality. Their website says they come with a 3-circuit 1/8-inch JACK, so you still need a 3-circuit plug to plug patch cable. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 External speaker connection
It's amazing the amount of verbiage and reflector traffic this subject has generated! Purist's opinions not withstanding, Radio Scrap has a cord that will meet everyone's needs ... a male 1/8 stereo plug on one end and several choices for the other end. I think there's even one with bare wire on the other end. The cords come in a variety of lengths. The other end might be a female or male phonos, or something else. Cut off whatever your speakers now have and attach a mating connector for your chosen RS cable's connector. The (self-generated) problem will be solved. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Remote Matching Thought
This seems like a potential application for the KRC2. Could it not be co-located with a relay-controlled array of matching components? I know that one of the big concerns is the length of the AUXBUS cable; perhaps BCD control via something akin to rotor cable would be more appropriate. Yes, the per-band-segment selection of control relay values would have to be determined a priori, but once identified should be repeatably selectable with the KRC2's 36 output drivers. -- 73 -- Brian -- K1LI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
I'm amazed about all this waffle about speakers and stereo plugs and adaptors. We (well most of us) passed an exam to show we were competant at basic electrical knowledge It takes little longer to make up such a lead or adaptor to suit our personal requirement than it does to type a message to the reflector asking where one can be purchased! Total cost of two mono in line sockets and one stereo plug plus a short wire, all from the junk box. To run two mono speakers from the rear of the K3 works wonderfully. In fact using a pair of 3 x 3 speakers ( from some old vehicle, these have Nokia printed on the back) the audio is as good as I have heard in years from a communications rx. It is great to use headphones, permanently connected and be able to switch speakers on instantly should it be desired. 73 David VK3DBD On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:20:07 -0600, Tom Hammond wrote: Since the posting of the link to my K3 Speaker Splitter PC board, I have received a number of requests (orders if you will) for PC boards. While I appalud your willingness to share, there is another good solution. What we really need is a stereo to mono breakout cable that has a 3-circuit male plug wired for stereo, split to two mono jacks. Here's the problem -- Radio Schlock, Worst Buy, and their ilk pushed the real connector mfrs out of the market with cheaply made connectors and adapter cables, but they don't sell the cable we need. The GOOD connectors are made by Switchcraft and Neutrik. In North America, we can buy these parts from vendors like Newark, Allied, Digikey, etc. The catch is that they cost more than a buck, and hams can be cheap, so they think they're too expensive. They're not -- they are of much higher quality, don't have the melting insulation and lousy contact material problems of the cheap connectors, and are far more robust mechanically. The solution is simple. Simply belly up to the bar and place an order with one of these real electronics vendors for real connectors and build your own adapters. Now a brickbat to Elecraft. Speakers are individual products, they don't come wired with 3-circuit plugs, and as noted above, it's not easy to buy parts to build adapters. What Elecraft SHOULD have done is provide TWO output jacks, not one. They played cheap (or dumb, to the extent that they were ignorant of the marketplace). Now to fix it? Rebuilding the I/O panel is costly. A better fix for their design error is to provide the unique breakout cable that is required. It has long been good practice when selling quality electronics products to ship unique connectors and or cable assemblies with the product, especially when they are not commonly available in the marketplace. This breakout cable is exactly such a unique part. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3.
Ruben Low frequency audio has been extended and some high frequency artifacts have been reduced on the K3. If you are an SSB only operator, selectivity won't matter much. For cw, the narrow roofing filters will prevent the hardware AGC from reducing gain when a strong signal is just outside the DSP's bandpass. ExampleIf you only have the 2.7 filter but have the DSP set for 200Hz width and a strong signal is 2 Khz away, your hardware AGC may activate and reduce the overall gain making it difficult to copy the desired signal. That's what roofing filters are for. The ICOMS basically don't have a roofing filter worth mentioning. Yes, the advertise 3 KHZ but that will do you good whatsoever under conditions just described. Finally, the scope on the ICOMS is nice but the LP-PAN external unit is far superior and so will be the planned P3. 73 Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Ruben Navarro Huedo runa...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:16 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3. Hello friends: I am Ruben from Spain. Around 10 months ago i owned a K3/100 with ATU and original 2.7 filter. I tested it around 2 months and after that i sold it. At that moment i didn't like its audio (very crispy for me) and selectivity with 2.7 filter wasn't better than my old 756pro2. Now i am thinking buy again one K3, but this time with better filters and voice keyer. I my options is also an IC-7600. I think this question has been done lots of times in this list, but excuse me, i have to ask... What do you think? Is audio better in last units? With better filters... A lot better selectivity? Your coments are very helper for my choice. Has anybody tested a k3 and 7600 at same time? Thank's a lot friends and happy 2010. -- Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ http://www.palotes.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2601 - Release Date: 01/05/10 02:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Strange SWR reading
Dear Dick, I posted this problem on the reflector some time back, but noone picked up on it, so I'll try again. This is a before and after story and has me puzzled. BEFORE: I connected DL1 dummy load to Ant 1 using only a BNC-MtoM and a PL259-FtoF (no coax at all, just small straight-through adapters). I set the KAT3 to BYPASS. I pressed TUNE and saw 1.0, on all bands. Fine, this is what I expect. Also, using my link-coupled external tuner with the antenna connected (I seldom use the KAT3), I was able to adjust to 1.0 on all bands (except 6 meters). AFTER: After the first time I ran the Calibrate Transmitter Gain routine from the Elecraft K3 Utility, I pressed TUNE with the DL1 still connected and saw a SWR reading of 1.1 on all bands, not 1.0 as before. Also, when I use my external tuner, the lowest SWR I can obtain now is 1.1, not 1.0 as before. WHY? I just upgraded the K3 (#1741) with all current mods and the new DSP board. So, I re-calibrated everything. Same result re the 1.1 SWR reading. Here is what happens: I attach the DL1 and set KAT3 to BYPASS as per the instructions. I run through the steps and click on Calibrate in the 5 Watt page. The calibration routine runs to completion successfully. At every frequency I see on the K3 front panel readout the following two-step sequence: - The frequency to be used - The numbers 1.1 which quickly change to 1.0 It seems as if the software is adjusting something to get to 1.0 for the SWR. What? I don't hear any clicks so doubt it is adjusting any toroids or capacitors the ATU. Maybe it is adjusting the final transistor bias? After this calibration, pressing TUNE with the DL1 still connected and the KAT3 still in BYPASS, I see 1.1 SWR. I then did the routine again, but this time doing the 5 watt and then the 50 Watt Calibration (the DL1 doesn't get very hot due to the short duty cycle). At 5 Watts, the result is the same as above. At 50 Watts, I see the following for each frequency step: - The frequency to be used - The number 1.0 This time it doesn't seem to be adjusting anything. Maybe that was already done at 5 Watts? It just starts out at 1.0 and stays there. After this calibration, pressing TUNE with the DL1 still connected and the KAT3 still in BYPASS, I see 1.1 SWR. So, what is going on? It seems to me that if I adjust the transmitter using DL1 as the reference for 1.0 SWR, then pressing TUNE with the DL1 attached and KAT3 still in BYPASS should also give 1.0. So, two question: (1) What is the software adjusting that affects the SWR shown on the K3 front panel display? (2) Why is the end result a lowest SWR of 1.1 instead of 1.0? Thanks for any information. Oliver Johns W6ODJ PS: Configuration information: K3 #1741, KPA3, KAT3, KBPF3, KTCXO3-1, KXV3, K3DSPUPGD upgrade, REMIOUPGD upgrade, all Elecraft-recommended user mods up to 1 Jan 2010 done, and no other mods done. No KRX3. No KXV3A upgrade. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Home Brew Speaker Adapter
I present my highly technical speaker adapter for the K3. It's provided nearly 2 years of constant service. http://n4lq.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=64864290 Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3.
Ruben, i've just done a comparison of both trx (no open decision ... just for fun...). My interest is not to be pro or con K3 or other products ! Technically there is no really poorly designed trx. It's all about design decisions with all associated pros and cons.. At the end we stopped comparing technical values and design decisions ... The IC7600 is a finished product, while the K3 is still evolving ... The userinterface of the IC7600 is quite good. The possibility to connect a keyboard is neat for digital modes. I also like the haptics and the display. My K3 will have a nice display in the near future and i also guess there will be a keyboard connected to the K3 :o) The NR and the audio of the K3 evolved a lot (a new K3 will include the new DSP-Board). So it's more a question of personal preferences. I like to be part of a community evolving a product. You have to be shure what features you will need during your typical operation. Are you willing to use a computer beside the trx ? The technical differences will be recognizable only within pileups or multiple strong signal situations. This is my personal opinon - YMMV vy 73 de Thomas, DM7TN K3/100 #78 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ruben Navarro Huedo Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:16 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3. Hello friends: I am Ruben from Spain. Around 10 months ago i owned a K3/100 with ATU and original 2.7 filter. I tested it around 2 months and after that i sold it. At that moment i didn't like its audio (very crispy for me) and selectivity with 2.7 filter wasn't better than my old 756pro2. Now i am thinking buy again one K3, but this time with better filters and voice keyer. I my options is also an IC-7600. I think this question has been done lots of times in this list, but excuse me, i have to ask... What do you think? Is audio better in last units? With better filters... A lot better selectivity? Your coments are very helper for my choice. Has anybody tested a k3 and 7600 at same time? Thank's a lot friends and happy 2010. -- Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ http://www.palotes.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Home Brew Speaker Adapter
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com wrote: I present my highly technical speaker adapter for the K3. It's provided nearly 2 years of constant service. http://n4lq.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=64864290 Too complicated for me! Fortunately I had picked up a commercial version of that at Guitar Center a while back (for some other project). 1/8 stereo plug to 2 x 1/4 mono jacks - one for tip and one for ring. Quality seems decent (maybe built to withstand traveling musicians?). ~Iain / N6ML __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Price difference JA Vs US
Hello Group, To save the band width here, I have done an Excel file to compare the prices of Elecraft products in JA and US which shows a price difference ranging from 47% to 106%. If you want a copy of my analysis, please email me off the list. 73 Johnny VR2XMC Yahoo!香港提供網上安全攻略，教你如何防範黑客! 請前往 http://hk.promo..yahoo.com/security/ 了解更多! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Home Brew Speaker Adapter
I do have the same adapter but sold at Radio Shack,its a 1/8 stereo plug to 2 x 1/8 mono jacks - one for tip and one for ring. I have been using it for a year now with no problem and two RCA speakers. AD4C For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote: From: Iain MacDonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Home Brew Speaker Adapter To: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 1:32 AM On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com wrote: I present my highly technical speaker adapter for the K3. It's provided nearly 2 years of constant service. http://n4lq.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=64864290 Too complicated for me! Fortunately I had picked up a commercial version of that at Guitar Center a while back (for some other project). 1/8 stereo plug to 2 x 1/4 mono jacks - one for tip and one for ring. Quality seems decent (maybe built to withstand traveling musicians?). ~Iain / N6ML __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] New K3 User and New Ham
Dear Steve, Welcome to the amateur and K3 community! I would like to share two thoughts regarding a pre-made antenna and a power source. First, I recommend you make use of the eHam website - there's a lot of useful information and reviews there. Along that line, I suggest you look at the True-Talk 40m G5RV. I have one as an inverted V and I am very pleased with it. I have made contacts to Europe, Russia, Australia, etc. The K3 will autotune from 80, 40, 20 and 10m. The eHam review is found at http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2202 http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2202 . A reasonable AC power supply is the Alinco DM-340MVT for around $177. I know there are a lot of other very good options out there, these are just two. It was not long ago that I was a new ham and I remember appreciating the specific recommendations. So you may consider these in addition to the many great recommendations and instructions you have already received from the more experienced hams on this thread. 73, Skip, W9SKP -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-K3-User-and-New-Ham-tp4253024p4258804.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] More on N0SS K3 External Speaker Splitter
I like it when guys post info about K3 related products and projects like Don's Although some of us might have the abilbilty to do the Y or other small thing, we may not have the capability to go out shopping for speakers and phone jack, plugs, wire etc due to some handycap. You have no idea how many mini plugs I ruined trying to do something like Don is doing. I ordered two!! Yeah once I've gather my info in those threads I start hitting the delete key. You can get overloaded. de K2GN K3 S/N 3278 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review
I completely agree. I just got a pair of these delivered last week and am very happy with them. I too found the cable to the left speaker about 6 inches too short for where I needed to put them. Luckily I had a short RCA extension already on hand. 73 Greg AB7R On 1/5/2010 1:45 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: http://www.eham.net/reviews/review/87019 Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2602 - Release Date: 01/05/10 19:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review
Call HRO...they have them...or at least they did last week. On 1/5/2010 2:22 PM, KE4INM wrote: I just got off the phone with West Mountian Radio. At this time they do not know when or if the will have the speakers in stock. He said if they can't get them they will be removing them from their web site. Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2602 - Release Date: 01/05/10 19:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review
Woops...Guess HRO is all out: 9) Manufacturer: WestMtn Item : COMspkr Description : Amplified comm spkrs w EMI and RFI Protection 1 PAIR YOUR HRO PRICE $39.95 Stock status: Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Greg a...@cablespeed.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] West Mtn Com Spkr review Call HRO...they have them...or at least they did last week. On 1/5/2010 2:22 PM, KE4INM wrote: I just got off the phone with West Mountian Radio. At this time they do not know when or if the will have the speakers in stock. He said if they can't get them they will be removing them from their web site. Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2602 - Release Date: 01/05/10 19:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.126/2602 - Release Date: 01/05/10 14:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3.
(Disclaimer: I'm biased, by definition :) The K3 also has: - a 2nd receiver option with identical performance to the main, which allows you to listen to two bands at once, or do diversity receive (the 7600 has dual-watch, but this cannot provide diversity receive because both receivers always share one antenna) - an internal 2-meter option (10 W output, all modes) - much lighter weight -- less than 10 lb, vs. 22 lb (great for portable/emergency operation, field day, DXpeditions, etc.) - about 1/3rd as much receive-mode current drain (~1A vs. 3A) - over 20 dB better dynamic range in most receive categories: http://www.sherweng.com/table.html - very narrow roofing filters (as low as 200 Hz, vs. 3 kHz minimum for the IC-7600 -- tightest you can get in the high-performance class) - extensive support for external transverters, including up to 9 programmable bands - very wide-range ATU (nominally 10:1, but will frequently match 20:1 or better at QRP levels) - both VFO A and VFO B knobs - duplicate mic and headphone jacks on rear panel (good for keeping cables away from front of the rig) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 5, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Thomas Norff wrote: Ruben, i've just done a comparison of both trx (no open decision ... just for fun...). My interest is not to be pro or con K3 or other products ! Technically there is no really poorly designed trx. It's all about design decisions with all associated pros and cons.. At the end we stopped comparing technical values and design decisions ... The IC7600 is a finished product, while the K3 is still evolving ... The userinterface of the IC7600 is quite good. The possibility to connect a keyboard is neat for digital modes. I also like the haptics and the display. My K3 will have a nice display in the near future and i also guess there will be a keyboard connected to the K3 :o) The NR and the audio of the K3 evolved a lot (a new K3 will include the new DSP-Board). So it's more a question of personal preferences. I like to be part of a community evolving a product. You have to be shure what features you will need during your typical operation. Are you willing to use a computer beside the trx ? The technical differences will be recognizable only within pileups or multiple strong signal situations. This is my personal opinon - YMMV vy 73 de Thomas, DM7TN K3/100 #78 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ruben Navarro Huedo Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:16 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3. Hello friends: I am Ruben from Spain. Around 10 months ago i owned a K3/100 with ATU and original 2.7 filter. I tested it around 2 months and after that i sold it. At that moment i didn't like its audio (very crispy for me) and selectivity with 2.7 filter wasn't better than my old 756pro2. Now i am thinking buy again one K3, but this time with better filters and voice keyer. I my options is also an IC-7600. I think this question has been done lots of times in this list, but excuse me, i have to ask... What do you think? Is audio better in last units? With better filters... A lot better selectivity? Your coments are very helper for my choice. Has anybody tested a k3 and 7600 at same time? Thank's a lot friends and happy 2010. -- Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ http://www.palotes.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Thinking return to K3.
Dear Ruben, The mailing list and the support from Electraft are outstanding and a bit surprised you haven't founded the right adjustments. Just think this rig is not like the others. If you want a limousine the usual rigs are perfect, if you want a F1 performer Elecraft rigs are the choice. Personally I'm improving it weeks after weeks, thanks to all Elecrafters who shared their experience and I can tell you after testing most of the Professional and Hams rigs on the market for decades, Elecraft waked my Ham spirit, thanks to Wayne Eric. As a Ham radio what a pleasure to adjust itself all parameters in order to take the best of that rig. Hope you will join back the Elecrafters soon. May be one day on the air ! Happy New year 2010 to you and your family. Bst 73's Philippe A65BI K3#3616 http://www.qrz.com/callsign/A65BI Philippe TROTTET Head of Field Telecom Unit - DUBAI United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees International Humanitarian City Office Building Nº3 - Room 2, 1st Floor Doha Street PO BOX: 506013 DUBAI - U.A.E. Dubai time: GMT +4 W: Sunday to Thursday HQ Ext: 7120 Vsat: xx 41 22 7120 External: +971 4 3601753 +41 22 739 7120 Mobile: +971 504531756 Website: www.unhcr.org ( http://www.unhcr.org/ ) Ruben Navarro Huedo runa...@gmail.com 06-01-2010 3:16 Hello friends: I am Ruben from Spain. Around 10 months ago i owned a K3/100 with ATU and original 2.7 filter. I tested it around 2 months and after that i sold it. At that moment i didn't like its audio (very crispy for me) and selectivity with 2.7 filter wasn't better than my old 756pro2. Now i am thinking buy again one K3, but this time with better filters and voice keyer. I my options is also an IC-7600. I think this question has been done lots of times in this list, but excuse me, i have to ask... What do you think? Is audio better in last units? With better filters... A lot better selectivity? Your coments are very helper for my choice. Has anybody tested a k3 and 7600 at same time? Thank's a lot friends and happy 2010. -- Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ http://www.palotes.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
