Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-17 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

The fine thing about the QRP K2 and the K3 is an easy to use flexible tuner
on board.
Please let there be one inside the kpa500 if it exists. Same thing for the
powersupply.

If not, sorry, no kpa500 for me.

Arie PA3A

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-

It weighs 10 kilos, does NOT have a built in tuner, but DOES have a
built-in linear power supply good for all common mains specs.

73, doug



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread GM0ELP

I ordered a K3DSPUPGD on 1/1/10 and still haven't received anything. Do not
believe the quoted 4-5 week lead time estimate on the website. A very
unsatisfactory situation!

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[Elecraft] K3 600Hz shift when A/B pressed (cw/ssb)

2010-04-17 Thread GM0ELP

If I have different modes (cw/ssb) in A and B VFOs, when I press A/B the
frequency being passed to VFO A goes up 600Hz (cw) or down 600Hz (ssb) each
time A/B is pressed. Anyone else see this? What am I doing wrong?

TNX

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[Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Can someone at Visalia confirm if the prototype KPA500 does or does not 
have an on board antenna tuner?

As the prototypes KPA1500 and KPA800 did have plans for one, if the 
KPA500 does not and it was left out to keep it in the same size box as 
the K3, I for one will be very disappointed.

Hey Ken-K0PP you apparently saw it, gives us the scoop on the KPA500 tuner.

Thanks and 73 de N1LQ-Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-17 Thread juergen

Hi Joe

Whatever devices  it uses lets hope that the IMD performance is above average. 
The last  thing we need is another expensive amplifier that is no better than 
the average  cheap CB amp. 

What devices does the KPA500 uses?

John
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500
 To: 'Joe Planisky' jp...@jeffnet.org, 'Elecraft Elecraft' 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:06 PM
 
 Joe, 
 
 You missed the news ... just a push-pull 2N pair with 
 liquid nitrogen cooling. 
 
 73, 
 
    ... Joe, W4TV 
  
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
 On Behalf Of Joe Planisky
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:05 PM
  To: Elecraft Elecraft
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500
  
  
  Nah.  It'll be 500 2N's.  Wayne had a
 bunch left over from some  
  QRP projects and had to find a way to get rid of
 them.  :-)
  
  33-1/3
  --
  Joe KB8AP
  
  
  
  On Apr 16, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Paul Christensen wrote:
  
   I would also think it will be built around
 MRF-150 FET's?
  
   Four years ago, the prototype KPA800 used eight
 APT ARF 463
   transistors
   (four per RF board).  Each plug-in board
 would be field  
   serviceable.  The
   prototype KPA1500 in effect doubled the number of
 boards and  
   transistors.
  
   ...
  
   Paul, W9AC
  
  
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread DC1RS

Got my Oder Confirmation on 05/01/10, nothing since... 

73 de Roland, DC1RS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 600Hz shift when A/B pressed (cw/ssb)

2010-04-17 Thread Brett Howard
You have the auto shift feature turned on.  This makes the radio QSY by
your pitch setting when you go to and from CW mode.

~Brett (KC7OTG)


On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 01:42 -0800, GM0ELP wrote:
 If I have different modes (cw/ssb) in A and B VFOs, when I press A/B the
 frequency being passed to VFO A goes up 600Hz (cw) or down 600Hz (ssb) each
 time A/B is pressed. Anyone else see this? What am I doing wrong?
 
 TNX
 
 Doug GM0ELP 


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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread lstavenhagen

Exactly. The point of the P3 is to *get away from* using a PC.  It is
made to go next to the K3. That means I can take with me to  and
not have to drag a PC along, or install a bunch of stuff on someone
else's PC to use the spectrum display.  Believe that was the point. 

Ah, these are just heavenly words to me, hi hi.. And one of the primary
reasons I'm now a hardcore elecrafter. I'll admit that the functionality of
general purpose SW like what we have now are a tough act to follow, but if
it _can_ be followed with a device specifically designed to work with a ham
rig (and not these awful Rube Goldberg setups with
PC's/adapters/cables/busted drivers/lock-in to Windows/etc we're forced to
use now) I'll be right there in line to buy it.

I wonder if there'll eventually be some kind of keyboard/mouse interfacing
available with the P3? That'd be a wheel I wouldn't mind elecraft
reinventing since again that would be with a purpose-built device for the
K3. I.e. a way to use PSK-D and RTTY-D using a KB and the P3 for RX?

73,
LS
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[Elecraft] KPA500 - A bit more info

2010-04-17 Thread Ken Kopp

The KPA500 uses a linear PS, with a -large- torrodial (SP?) transformer, 
and covers 160 - 6M.  The case is the same size as the K3, with the 
addition of a large external fan on the right rear corner.  The interest has 
been intense, with continuous groups of lookers.  I'll try to gather more 
details today.  

It's my guess that there is smaller number of vendors here this year, a
reflection of the economy in general, and California's unemployment 
rate stands at 12 - 17%, depending on the area. (:-(

Rose's case and cover orders have been good, however. (:-))

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread lstavenhagen

One other thing I will say about this. I do personally also see what
Wayne/Eric/Lyle are probably up against as far as the PC+SDR juggernaut. The
fight involved in forcing square pegs like a PC running Windows into a round
hole like controlling a ham rig is one that most of us are simply used to
from other applications and are therefore willing to keep trying. 

Frankly, many of us are simply accustomed to horrible general purpose
designs like Windows/PC's for applications like this, there's a very strong
perception that that's the way using a computer is supposed to be. Some
solutions like PSK and software like cocoaModem are ingenious workarounds to
this general problem, but ultimately there's still a lot of Rube Goldberg
involved there that we're just accustomed to: A hard-to-use operating system
talking to a broken driver talking to a USB port talking to USB-RS232
converter talking to an RS232 port on a rig talking to a. you get the
idea.

This is an NP-hard problem for purpose-built hardware/software solutions in
general these days, even when they're very well designed and work really
well. Hammering some junk Dell somewhere running garbage like Windows into
the problem is often still the preferred method (usually because of cost or
general availability of the hardware, etc) even when a much more elegant and
effective (but proprietary and purpose-built) solution is available. 

So to sum up, I'm hopeful about the P3 but I also realize that there're more
realistic concerns that elecraft will have to deal with here...

My .02,
73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Does NOT!!!

You're disappointed.

73, doug

   Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 06:02:18 -0400
   From: David and Dianne on Comcast dhh...@comcast.net

   Can someone at Visalia confirm if the prototype KPA500 does or does not 
   have an on board antenna tuner?

   As the prototypes KPA1500 and KPA800 did have plans for one, if the 
   KPA500 does not and it was left out to keep it in the same size box as 
   the K3, I for one will be very disappointed.

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[Elecraft] ERR TXG problem.

2010-04-17 Thread David Quental
Hello a

since yesterday I am at my home and have begun to assemble my Elecraft
K3. All went fine until I have reached the ERR TXG problem. When I use
the Elecraft K3 Utility I get always the same:

Starting 5 watt calibration.
Calibrating at 1,900 MHz
Calibration power settled at '  0.0 W ;'
5 watt calibration failed.
Elapsed time: 8,9 secs

Any help will be welcome, tks in advance.

CT1DRB
David Quental

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[Elecraft] ERR TXG problem.

2010-04-17 Thread Alfred Frugoli
Hi David,

I ran into a similar problem a few weeks ago.  Are you using the latest K3
Utility?  Try using the manual calibration procedure in the K3 Manual.  Does
that work?  I had a similar problem that was related to an updated that the
K3 Utility needed.  I think the latest K3 Utility is on the web site now
though.

Good luck.

73 de Al, KE1FO

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 Hello a

 since yesterday I am at my home and have begun to assemble my Elecraft
 K3. All went fine until I have reached the ERR TXG problem. When I use
 the Elecraft K3 Utility I get always the same:

 Starting 5 watt calibration.
 Calibrating at 1,900 MHz
 Calibration power settled at '  0.0 W ;'
 5 watt calibration failed.
 Elapsed time: 8,9 secs

 Any help will be welcome, tks in advance.

 CT1DRB
 David Quental

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread ab2tc

Hi,

No tuner is fine me. Tuners belong at the far end of the coax, not in the
shack. But is it really true that the power supply is linear? Sounds like a
terrible waste of energy to me. Switchers *can* be made quiet these days.
Switchers are also much more adaptible to various primary voltages.

On the topic of 120/220V, of course I have nothing against 220V which is a
must in Europe, as long as it will run on 120V. I do not currently have 220V
in the shack but could relatively easliy install it as the breaker panel is
just next door.

AB2TC - AB2TC


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 Does NOT!!!
 
 You're disappointed.
 
 73, doug
 
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 06:02:18 -0400
From: David and Dianne on Comcast dhh...@comcast.net
 
Can someone at Visalia confirm if the prototype KPA500 does or does not 
have an on board antenna tuner?
 
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[Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Thanks for the info Doug.

And I aminitially.

Seems like an odd decision in light of alternatives like the very well 
received  SPE 1K Expert.

Though I see the LDG is going to offer a 600W auto tuner this June ... 
so that may be an alternative. 

For me the integration of a tuner into the package would have been 
really great for an Elecraft  'pocket linear'.

We'll wait and see.

KPA500 Jpeg's anyone?

73 de N1LQ-Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR TXG problem

2010-04-17 Thread Fred Atchley
David, Try the manual TX Gain as described on page 49 of the K3 Owner's
Manual.

Select Ant 1 using the ANT pushbutton and check that the dummy load is
attached to Ant 1 out.

73, FRED, AE6IC, K3 #2241

 

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[Elecraft] OT: Test

2010-04-17 Thread Randy Moore
Please ignore.
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[Elecraft] K1 LED backlight anode annotation

2010-04-17 Thread ki4bbl

I am at the point of installing the backlight in a new kit.  The manual says
that the anode A will always be at the bottom of the backlight when the
leads are to the left.  My backlight shows A on top of K.  I did not see
an errata sheet for the backlight.  Am I reading something wrong, or do I
need to change something?

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Wes Stewart
It's nice that you bring up the SPE 1K, since it demonstrates very nicely the 
loss you can suffer with a built-in tuner.  

The ARRL review 
(http://www.arrl.org/files/file/protected/Group/Members/ProductReview/pdf/pr0909.pdf)
 said that there was 100-200W loss in the internal tuner, and presumably this 
is into a matched load in the laboratory.

With a mismatched load the losses are generally going to be even higher.

With solid-state power costing upwards of $3-$4/watt these days ($3.20 in this 
case), why anyone wants to leave $500-600 worth in the box is beyond me.  But 
then I could never get my arms around the whole mismatched 
antenna/ladderline/balun/tuner thing in the first place.

Wes  N7WS

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 From: David and Dianne on Comcast dhh...@comcast.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 9:30 AM
 Thanks for the info Doug.
 
 And I aminitially.
 
 Seems like an odd decision in light of alternatives like
 the very well 
 received  SPE 1K Expert.
 
 Though I see the LDG is going to offer a 600W auto tuner
 this June ... 
 so that may be an alternative. 
 
 For me the integration of a tuner into the package would
 have been 
 really great for an Elecraft  'pocket linear'.
 
 We'll wait and see.
 
 KPA500 Jpeg's anyone?
 
 73 de N1LQ-Dave
 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
There is a button on front that says ATU, but Bob was not giving
anything away.  The linear supply makes it much more multi-TX site
friendly.  This is useful for DXpeditions and multi-TX contesting.
500 watts is a conservative number, appaerntly/.

And:
http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/n6tqs/visalia/?action=viewcurrent=IMGP0028.jpg

http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/n6tqs/visalia/?action=viewcurrent=IMGP0030.jpg

http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/n6tqs/visalia/?action=viewcurrent=IMGP0029.jpg

73, doug


   Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:30:54 -0400
   From: David and Dianne on Comcast dhh...@comcast.net

   Thanks for the info Doug.

   And I aminitially.

   Seems like an odd decision in light of alternatives like the very well 
   received  SPE 1K Expert.

   Though I see the LDG is going to offer a 600W auto tuner this June ... 
   so that may be an alternative. 

   For me the integration of a tuner into the package would have been 
   really great for an Elecraft  'pocket linear'.

   We'll wait and see.

   KPA500 Jpeg's anyone?

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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
With all this talk of the P3, I am still unable to find this item 
listed on the Elecraft website.  Where is it?

Dick
KA1SA (Ser# 911)



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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Oh, I thought I took a photo of the power transformer, but it didn't
come out.  I'll try again.
And Bob says it'll work nicely into at least 2:1 SWR at full power,
maybe even higher, but they're not ready for test to destruction
yet.

73, doug

   Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:56:07 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com

   It's nice that you bring up the SPE 1K, since it demonstrates very nicely 
the loss you can suffer with a built-in tuner.  

   The ARRL review
   
(http://www.arrl.org/files/file/protected/Group/Members/ProductReview/pdf/pr0909.pdf)
   said that there was 100-200W loss in the internal tuner, and
   presumably this is into a matched load in the laboratory.

   With a mismatched load the losses are generally going to be even higher.

   With solid-state power costing upwards of $3-$4/watt these days
   ($3.20 in this case), why anyone wants to leave $500-600 worth in
   the box is beyond me.  But then I could never get my arms around
   the whole mismatched antenna/ladderline/balun/tuner thing in the
   first place.

   Wes  N7WS

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From: David and Dianne on Comcast dhh...@comcast.net
Subject: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 9:30 AM
Thanks for the info Doug.

And I aminitially.

Seems like an odd decision in light of alternatives like
the very well 
received  SPE 1K Expert.

Though I see the LDG is going to offer a 600W auto tuner
this June ... 
so that may be an alternative. 

For me the integration of a tuner into the package would
have been 
really great for an Elecraft  'pocket linear'.

We'll wait and see.

KPA500 Jpeg's anyone?

73 de N1LQ-Dave




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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread David Gilbert


You do realize that you're simply asking Elecraft to turn the K3 into 
your computer (except with a different operating system), right?  
Possibly it might be useful to be able to connect a keyboard and mouse 
directly to a P3, but I'm having a hard time visualizing how #1 below is 
any more elegant than #2 for portable operation, at least in terms of 
hardware.

1.  K3 + P3 + keyboard + mouse + external monitor + paper log + hand 
transfer of QSOs to home computer

2.  K3 + P3 (or LP-PAN) + small laptop

73,
Dave   AB7E

p.s.  Refurbished laptop computers are very inexpensive




On 4/17/2010 6:03 AM, lstavenhagen wrote:
 Exactly. The point of the P3 is to *get away from* using a PC.  It is
  
 made to go next to the K3. That means I can take with me to  and
 not have to drag a PC along, or install a bunch of stuff on someone
 else's PC to use the spectrum display.  Believe that was the point.

 Ah, these are just heavenly words to me, hi hi.. And one of the primary
 reasons I'm now a hardcore elecrafter. I'll admit that the functionality of
 general purpose SW like what we have now are a tough act to follow, but if
 it _can_ be followed with a device specifically designed to work with a ham
 rig (and not these awful Rube Goldberg setups with
 PC's/adapters/cables/busted drivers/lock-in to Windows/etc we're forced to
 use now) I'll be right there in line to buy it.

 I wonder if there'll eventually be some kind of keyboard/mouse interfacing
 available with the P3? That'd be a wheel I wouldn't mind elecraft
 reinventing since again that would be with a purpose-built device for the
 K3. I.e. a way to use PSK-D and RTTY-D using a KB and the P3 for RX?

 73,
 LS
 W5QD

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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread lstavenhagen

You do realize that you're simply asking Elecraft to turn the K3 into
your computer (except with a different operating system), right?  

More or less, yes. But the elecraft solution would be purpose-built for
controlling the K3, using the data modes etc., which my computer is
decidedly not.

Possibly it might be useful to be able to connect a keyboard and mouse
directly to a P3, but I'm having a hard time visualizing how #1 below is
any more elegant than #2 for portable operation, at least in terms of
hardware.

1.  K3 + P3 + keyboard + mouse + external monitor + paper log + hand
transfer of QSOs to home computer

2.  K3 + P3 (or LP-PAN) + small laptop 

That's because you're dramatically oversimplifying #2 hi hi. There you
forgot, keyboard, mouse, external monitor, drivers (introduce first 3rd
party here), searching internet for fixed drivers, installing LP-PAN (3rd
party #2) and associated software, fighting with Windows (3rd party #3) to
get drivers working, and so on. 

#1 being a proprietary, purpose-built solution gets around the Rube Goldberg
affect of the general purpose solution in #2, all its 3rd parties and the
hassle getting it all to work right.

That's the general idea I have in mind anyway

73,
LS
W5QD
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread Kok Chen

On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:54 AM, lstavenhagen wrote:

 That's because you're dramatically oversimplifying #2 hi hi. There you
 forgot, keyboard, mouse, external monitor, drivers (introduce first 3rd
 party here), searching internet for fixed drivers, installing LP-PAN (3rd
 party #2) and associated software, fighting with Windows (3rd party #3) to
 get drivers working, and so on. 

He said small laptop. No need for extra keyboard, monitor, etc.

Also, under marginal propagation conditions with digital modes, the demodulator 
in the K3 is not as good as real modems that are implemented in computers.  
Today's laptops (and even an iPad) has much more computing power than the 
embedded chips in the K3, which has to do other things too.  Modems implemented 
in computers are often written by specialists who can do better than the guys 
at Elecraft or Icom.

And that is not to mention the lack of QPSK31, PSK63, RTTY at different shifts 
and baud rate (there is a 75 baud RTTY contest coming up) on the K3.  Not even 
touching on lack of MFSK modes on the K3.

Vy 73
Chen

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
The loss in a tuner is dependent on a lot of things. Loss is a fact.
The 10=20% loss in the SPE has no connection to any elecraft device. AFAIK

73
Arie PA3A

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-


It's nice that you bring up the SPE 1K, since it demonstrates very nicely
the loss you can suffer with a built-in tuner.  


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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread lstavenhagen

True - like all the solutions, each is going to have its compromises and
advantages. It depends on which compromise is the best fit for your intended
use. My only point is the general purpose (outboard computer) solution that
has the advantages of more advanced software is not necessarily cost-free.
And in fact, those costs can be high enough (again depending on what you
want to do and what your tolerance is for juggling 3rd party issues, etc) to
warrant choosing a purpose-built solution instead. 

If I were still a Windows user, for example, I wouldn't even be attempting a
computer based solution at all because of the fight I'd face having to use
Windows and the associated SW alone (much less a completely SDR). But as a
Mac user, I'm already able to use your cocoaModem and RUMLog with my K3 with
very little problem at all (except for my interference issues which I have
to solve in any case).

But if the P3, say, could duplicate something similar without me having to
use my computers and offered a truly hassle-free centralized option, I would
definitely look at it. 

73,
LS
W5QD
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[Elecraft] more KPA500 photos was Re: News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
The KPA500 back panel (sorry for the quality, I didn't realize how bad
it was). One RF in, one out.  And Bob wasn't there, so I'm having to
guess that the modular connector is Murphy-proofing for AUX in and
out:
http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/n6tqs/visalia/?action=viewcurrent=IMGP0038.jpg

Ther KPA500 power transformer:
http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii156/n6tqs/visalia/?action=viewcurrent=IMGP0037.jpg
It's 2/3 of the weight of the entire amp.  For traveling, shipping a
second one ahead should be practical, so you don't have to actually
carry it.

73, doug

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[Elecraft] usb/serial Edgeport (linux)

2010-04-17 Thread Mike Markowski
I hate to revisit this topic so soon after the long thread died down,
but this is hopefully useful for linux users.  The kernel documentation
states that the Edegport usb/serial port boxes are supported, but I
noticed the new ones are pricey!  Being too cheap for that, I bought a
used Edgeport/4 converter on ebay ( $30 w/shipping)  just got it
yesterday.

I configured the linux kernel for it ahead of time, plugged it into the
laptop usb and 4 new serial ports popped up as /dev/ttyUSB[0-3]!  There
are 3 rigs on my desk, each needing a serial port, as well as a little
line level amplifier circuit in an Altoids tin to run cw contests via
the computer.  All four connections run fine so it was money well spent.
 The box is about 4 x 7 x 1 - hardly bigger than an index card - so
takes up little room  is powered by usb itself.

Hopefully the info is useful.  73,
Mike ab3ap
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[Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Thanks Wes,

You are entitled to your opinion which is sound and me, mine which is 
also sound. Yours seems based on long-established theory and mine based 
on 32 years of DX'ing practice.

Maybe there should be no need for an ATU option for the K3-100? And..I 
would not have 342 DXCC with 100W and all with non-resonant wire. I have 
no physical capability for multiple resonant antennas here at my QTH.  
Do I /need/ an amp?...no...It's a /want /only.  Plenty of folks like the 
SPE 1K and have said so on many forums.

I'm patient and not ready to jump to conclusions here as I 'm sure its 
still a ways off... but If there isn't an ATU on board as I recall there 
was with the earlier prototypes of the bigger Elecraft amps, I wish that 
there were one with the KPA 500 and I'm disappointed if not, that's all.

The folks at Elecraft are savvy, proficient and clever, more so than 
most others but they are not perfect. There is plenty of room for 
discussion and disagreement on points. (I'd still like to have had 
dedicated bandswitches on the K3.)

YMMV,

Offered  in the form of good spirited debate.

Come on guys at Visalia, we need some GOOD jpegs.

73 de N1LQ-Dave

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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread David Gilbert

No ... I didn't oversimplify #2, at least not in terms of hardware as I 
stated.  A laptop already includes the keyboard, monitor, and at least a 
rudimentary mouse.  Most mouse functions for ham radio purposes are 
easily (some more so) performed with arrow keys anyway.

Your comments on current software/drivers are valid, but in general I'm 
not sure that replacing clumsy software with dedicated hardware is the 
best overall solution.  It seems to me that simple hardware and cleanly 
functional software is the better path.  You're happy that Elecraft is 
offering the first path ... I'd be happier if someone offered the second 
one.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 4/17/2010 10:54 AM, lstavenhagen wrote:

 That's because you're dramatically oversimplifying #2 hi hi. There you
 forgot, keyboard, mouse, external monitor, drivers (introduce first 3rd
 party here), searching internet for fixed drivers, installing LP-PAN (3rd
 party #2) and associated software, fighting with Windows (3rd party #3) to
 get drivers working, and so on.

 #1 being a proprietary, purpose-built solution gets around the Rube Goldberg
 affect of the general purpose solution in #2, all its 3rd parties and the
 hassle getting it all to work right.

 That's the general idea I have in mind anyway

 73,
 LS
 W5QD

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The upgrade program delays seem to stem from delays in the exchange
board return from customers.  Probably from not being able to install
the new board immediately.

Those who have sent their own board to Elecraft in advance for a
direct exchange have received swift service. Apparently modified
directly and returned the same board, upgraded. This is the tack I am
going to take.

73, Guy.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:37 AM, DC1RS rs...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Got my Oder Confirmation on 05/01/10, nothing since...

 73 de Roland, DC1RS

 -
 K3/100 #1243, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-2.1K, KFL3A-400, KRX3, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400,
 KAT3, KXV3A
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Craig D. Smith
Only room for so much stuff in a K3 sized box.  I like the built-in Power
Supply and the 500 W design point.  And, I'm even thankful that there isn't
a built-in tuner, as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;)

  73Craig   AC0DS



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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
... but If there isn't an ATU on board as I recall there
was with the earlier prototypes of the bigger Elecraft amps, I wish that
there were one with the KPA 500 and I'm disappointed...

The SPE internal tuner (and even the THP external tuner) can only handle 
about a 3:1 SWR.  A wide-range autotuner needs a much greater range in 
component values, as well as higher voltage-rated and higher current-rated 
components than does a limited range tuner.  Look inside a LDG-1000 or 
MFJ-998 and you'll see what I mean.  Adding a wide-range tuner capability 
inside the KPA500 would add considerably to the size, cost and complexity of 
the KPA500.

When it comes to an amplifier, I prefer an external wide-range tuner.  Just 
my opinion.

Phil - AD5X 

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Claude Du Berger
Yes, Yes, Yes...
73, Claude VE2FK

  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig D. Smith 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))


  Only room for so much stuff in a K3 sized box.  I like the built-in Power
  Supply and the 500 W design point.  And, I'm even thankful that there isn't
  a built-in tuner, as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
  Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
  unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;)

73Craig   AC0DS

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Duncan Carter
According to Doug Faunt N6TQS, There is a button on front that says 
ATU.  Of course, Doug could be pulling our legs or perhaps Wayne could 
be doing the same with a fake ATU button - Oops, someone put the wrong 
button on the show demo!.  Considering how the the subscribers to this 
board like to take a bit of wild speculation and run with it, this seems 
possible.   I like Craig's comment as it seems to make sense and what 
I've seen from Elecraft so far also makes sense.

;-)), Dunc, W5DC

Craig D. Smith wrote:
 Only room for so much stuff in a K3 sized box.  I like the built-in Power
 Supply and the 500 W design point.  And, I'm even thankful that there isn't
 a built-in tuner, as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
 Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
 unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;)

   73Craig   AC0DS



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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread lstavenhagen

My point is, even with just the laptop + computer, you, for better or worse,
already have 4 3rd parties involved before you ever get to use your rig:
- the laptop manufacturer
- the SDR/Interface software manufacturers
- the OS vendor
- elecraft

If any of these have a problem working with each other, you've got a fair
bit of work ahead of you. If it works, great, but if not

If say the P3 + K3 were to work adequately for some application, say just
using casual PSK and that's ok for what you want to do, that list of 3rd
party vendors reduces down to one: Elecraft. Your chances of success at
getting that working and well-supported are pretty good and could be a
significant advantage.

But Chen's point is good too and I don't want to diminish your point either.
For example, I have cocoamodem running on my macbook right now scanning PSK
signals from my K3 and it's just a joy to use. It is able to decode sigs I
can hardly even hear out of the audio, QSYs to different stations is done
with just a mouse click, it's even got integration into RUMLog, etc. and yes
all with only 2 audio cords and a USB-RS232 adaptor (course the computer
being a mac helps a lot hi hi).. 

So yes, capabilities like that available from general purpose computing are
going to be a VERY tough act to follow and elecraft has its work cut out for
them to compete on that level.  All I'm saying is a special-purpose solution
can offer (if nothing else) the single-vendor advantage and that can be
significant depending on the application. It should be counted out is what I
mean..

73,
LS
W5QD
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread ab2tc

Hi,

Yes please, a remotable, weatherproofed 500W tuner with balanced capability
would create an instant order here. Until then, I will continue to rely on
my modified MFJ tuner (remote the tune function with a wire and
weatherproofed in a plastic feed container). It's starting to show signs of
corrosion and decay after 4 CNY winters but it's still working fine. I have
a spare on hand to install when it gives out. It's cheap enough to be a
throwaway item. Hint: Use Ethernet for the remote connection, please. It's
easy nowadays.

AB2TC - Knut


Claude Du Berger wrote:
 
 Yes, Yes, Yes...
 73, Claude VE2FK
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Craig D. Smith 
   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
   Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:13 PM
   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))
 
 
   Only room for so much stuff in a K3 sized box.  I like the built-in
 Power
   Supply and the 500 W design point.  And, I'm even thankful that there
 isn't
   a built-in tuner, as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
   Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
   unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;)
 
 73Craig   AC0DS
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 600Hz shift when A/B pressed (cw/ssb)

2010-04-17 Thread Brett Howard
The auto shift kicks in in a few places it shouldn't at the current
moment.  Not sure why yours is changing by a value other than your pitch
setting.

~Brett

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 12:09 +0100, Douglas Maxwell wrote:
 Hi Brett,
 Thanks for the reply. My CW pitch setting is 700Hz not 600Hz so this 
 still seems wrong? Also I am not switching between modes on a single VFO, 
 I'm swapping VFOs (A/B). Why should auto shift kick in for this action?
 
 Doug GM0ELP
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.com
 To: GM0ELP dcmaxw...@sky.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 600Hz shift when A/B pressed (cw/ssb)
 
 
  You have the auto shift feature turned on.  This makes the radio QSY by
  your pitch setting when you go to and from CW mode.
 
  ~Brett (KC7OTG)
 
 
  On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 01:42 -0800, GM0ELP wrote:
  If I have different modes (cw/ssb) in A and B VFOs, when I press A/B the
  frequency being passed to VFO A goes up 600Hz (cw) or down 600Hz (ssb) 
  each
  time A/B is pressed. Anyone else see this? What am I doing wrong?
 
  TNX
 
  Doug GM0ELP
 
  
 


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread N2TK, Tony
The turn around time when I sent my board in for the upgrade was 7 days
using USPS Priority Mail.

N2TK, Tony

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:05 PM
To: DC1RS
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

The upgrade program delays seem to stem from delays in the exchange
board return from customers.  Probably from not being able to install
the new board immediately.

Those who have sent their own board to Elecraft in advance for a
direct exchange have received swift service. Apparently modified
directly and returned the same board, upgraded. This is the tack I am
going to take.

73, Guy.

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 Got my Oder Confirmation on 05/01/10, nothing since...

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread Larry - K2GN
I got tried waiting for theexchange.
Guys were not returning their voards fast enough.
Pulled mine mailed it Thursday, got it back this past Wednesday.
Priority mail both ways.
They turned it around the day they got it.
Hard to beat that service

de K2GN - Larry
K3 S/N - 3278
P3 ordered





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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N2TK, Tony
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:19 PM
To: 'Guy Olinger K2AV'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

The turn around time when I sent my board in for the upgrade was 7 days
using USPS Priority Mail.

N2TK, Tony

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Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:05 PM
To: DC1RS
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

The upgrade program delays seem to stem from delays in the exchange board
return from customers.  Probably from not being able to install the new
board immediately.

Those who have sent their own board to Elecraft in advance for a direct
exchange have received swift service. Apparently modified directly and
returned the same board, upgraded. This is the tack I am going to take.

73, Guy.

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 Got my Oder Confirmation on 05/01/10, nothing since...

 73 de Roland, DC1RS

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread Brett Howard
Not to mention gentelmen... If you took good ESD precaution why not try
to hold onto your own board rather than risking getting one from someone
who was less careful...

~Brett

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 16:55 -0400, Larry - K2GN wrote:
 I got tried waiting for theexchange.
 Guys were not returning their voards fast enough.
 Pulled mine mailed it Thursday, got it back this past Wednesday.
 Priority mail both ways.
 They turned it around the day they got it.
 Hard to beat that service
 
 de K2GN - Larry
 K3 S/N - 3278
 P3 ordered
 
 
 
 
 
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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N2TK, Tony
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:19 PM
 To: 'Guy Olinger K2AV'
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF
 
 The turn around time when I sent my board in for the upgrade was 7 days
 using USPS Priority Mail.
 
 N2TK, Tony
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV
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 The upgrade program delays seem to stem from delays in the exchange board
 return from customers.  Probably from not being able to install the new
 board immediately.
 
 Those who have sent their own board to Elecraft in advance for a direct
 exchange have received swift service. Apparently modified directly and
 returned the same board, upgraded. This is the tack I am going to take.
 
 73, Guy.
 
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:37 AM, DC1RS rs...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Got my Oder Confirmation on 05/01/10, nothing since...
 
  73 de Roland, DC1RS
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 600Hz shift when A/B pressed (cw/ssb)

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Doug,

Are you using POWERSDR/IF?  If you are, is the version xxx.34?  That 
version had a bug caused the very shift you are seeing.  Furthermore it 
happened whether the A/B change was initiated by either the K3 buttons 
or the POWERSDR panel.  Upgrade to version xxx.35 to fix it.

73,
Don W3FPR

GM0ELP wrote:
 If I have different modes (cw/ssb) in A and B VFOs, when I press A/B the
 frequency being passed to VFO A goes up 600Hz (cw) or down 600Hz (ssb) each
 time A/B is pressed. Anyone else see this? What am I doing wrong?

 TNX

 Doug GM0ELP 
   
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread DC1RS

Sending it in is no option for me. It would take about 4-5 weeks only for the
shipping from Europe to US and back. I don't have a backup radio, so this
could cause serious withdrawal symptoms ;)
So I will continue waiting patiently.

73 de Roland, DC1RS

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 LED backlight anode annotation

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Greg,

Are you installing the backlight panel so the side marked with the A 
and K is next to the K1 board?  If not flip it over - you will not see 
the A and K markings when the backlight is installed correctly.

73,
Don W3FPR

ki4bbl wrote:
 I am at the point of installing the backlight in a new kit.  The manual says
 that the anode A will always be at the bottom of the backlight when the
 leads are to the left.  My backlight shows A on top of K.  I did not see
 an errata sheet for the backlight.  Am I reading something wrong, or do I
 need to change something?

 Greg
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[Elecraft] K3 Voice announcement

2010-04-17 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi,

A friend of mine who will become totally blind unfortunately, would like to
know if Elecraft intend to offer this feature in the future.

I do recall there was some discussion about this some time ago and I can't
recall what the outcome was.

He has his eyesight at the moment, although it is not real good but is still
going to order a K3 anyway.



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Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3

2010-04-17 Thread Ed Muns
 Did we get this completed ??
  _*We're just completing building the complete P3 web page 
 now and will 
  have more info up later today.
 
  73, Eric  WA6HHQ*_

QRX for Monday.

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Ed Muns
 Can someone at Visalia confirm if the prototype KPA500 does 
 or does not have an on board antenna tuner?

The initial product does not have an internal antenna tuner.  However, the
design team has a goal of supporting a wide range of SWR.  The final spec is
not yet available.

Ed - W0YK
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Encoder problems continue.

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Nidge,

Is it that the last digit changes, but the K2 actually changes frequency 
(that would be a display problem) - OR - does the K2 frequency not move 
properly?

Set the K2 to 40 meters.  Put the internal counter probe into TP1 and 
set the menu for CAL FCTR.  Try moving the K2 VFO dial - does the 
frequency move with the dial movement (it normally does).
Now put the counter probe in TP3.  Tap the BAND+ button and note the 
frequency - it should be near 12,100  kHz.
Now tap the BAND- button and again note the frequency - it should now be 
near 12,085 or so, and it should stay there.

If it fails any of those tests, you have a problem with the DC voltage 
being applied to the PLL Reference Oscillator.  I can give you some 
additional points to check if that appears to be the problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

Nidge (Nigel Smith) wrote:
 Turning the dial only results in the last digit displayed flicking backward 
 and forward.  
 Initially it was thought that the encoder was at fault and a replacement was 
 ordered.  Unfortunately
 once the replacement was installed the problem persisted.  It was suggested 
 by a Don (W3FPR)
 that because the voltage on pin 14 of U3 to the encoder enable pin was low
 (only 100mV or less) that the output of this drain was faulty.  Replacing the 
 TPIC6B595N
 did not rectify the problem.

 I have checked continuity between the ENC-A/B outputs of the Encoder through 
 the 
 display board and back to the MCU and all checks out OK, as does the 5Volt 
 supply.

 The remainder of the front panel functions work as they should.

 I must admit I am completely stuck now as to what else could cause this 
 problem, 
 especially as the radio has not missed a beat since it was constructed.

 Any pointers that any of you might have would be very much appreciated.

 Regards

 Nidge (G0NIG)

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Rumor level now-
The modular jack on the back is currently undefined, but is NOT just
an extension of the K3 ACC connection.  An ATU connnected there was
mentioned.  And, as I said, there's a button with an ATU label.

The most knowledgeable person is no longer here, but the active devices are
apparently a pair of 750W devices running at 60VDC.

And it MAY deliver power without a ATU as well as some units that
have an ATU.

Delivery- end of this year.
that's all for now.

73, doug

   From: Craig D. Smith cr...@powersmith.net
   Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:13:23 -0600

   Only room for so much stuff in a K3 sized box.  I like the built-in Power
   Supply and the 500 W design point.  And, I'm even thankful that there isn't
   a built-in tuner, as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
   Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
   unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;)
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
   Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:36:36 -0600
   From: Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com

   According to Doug Faunt N6TQS, There is a button on front that says 
   ATU.  Of course, Doug could be pulling our legs or perhaps Wayne could 

You can read it on one of the photos I posted.  But this is just a
prototype- the K3 labels changed in beta testing.

73, doug

   be doing the same with a fake ATU button - Oops, someone put the wrong 
   button on the show demo!.  Considering how the the subscribers to this 
   board like to take a bit of wild speculation and run with it, this seems 
   possible.   I like Craig's comment as it seems to make sense and what 
   I've seen from Elecraft so far also makes sense.
   ;-)), Dunc, W5DC

   Craig D. Smith wrote:
Only room for so much stuff in a K3 sized box.  I like the built-in Power
Supply and the 500 W design point.  And, I'm even thankful that there isn't
a built-in tuner, as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;)
   
  73Craig   AC0DS
   
   
   
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[Elecraft] K2 filter alignment

2010-04-17 Thread Ed Finn
All,

 

I was trying to do EME yesterday and today w/ Arecibo and realized my filter
alignment is horrible. I did this years ago following the spectrogram
procedure but it is not right.

 

The computer I used for this is long dead, and I get a bad link to
spectrogram when I follow the Elecraft link.

 

Does anyone know where a good copy is?

 

Tnx,

Ed wa3drc

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3DSPUPGD or K3DSPLPF

2010-04-17 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Elecraft will allow for long shipping delays from EUrope to US and at a slow 
transit speed.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174

The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster 
than society gathers wisdom. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) 

On 17 Apr 2010, at 22:12, DC1RS wrote:

 
 Sending it in is no option for me. It would take about 4-5 weeks only for the
 shipping from Europe to US and back. I don't have a backup radio, so this
 could cause serious withdrawal symptoms ;)
 So I will continue waiting patiently.
 
 73 de Roland, DC1RS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 600Hz shift when A/B pressed (cw/ssb)

2010-04-17 Thread Douglas Maxwell
Hi Don,
Yes I was using POWERSDR/IF earlier today when I noticed the bug. 
Believe it or not I upgraded to v1.19.3.5 earlier today without making the 
connection. I tried the same A/B thing again (just now) with the K3 (with 
and without POWERSDR/IF v1.19.3.5 running) and it doesn't happen now. Looks 
like I was experiencing the POWERSDR/IF v1.19.3.4 bug. That would have 
driven me mad wondering why the odd behaviour vanished.

Superb bit of sleuthing Don.

Note to self: kill all related communication applications when K3 exhibits 
odd behaviour.

Thanks again

Doug GM0ELP

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To: GM0ELP dcmaxw...@sky.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 600Hz shift when A/B pressed (cw/ssb)


 Doug,

 Are you using POWERSDR/IF?  If you are, is the version xxx.34?  That 
 version had a bug caused the very shift you are seeing.  Furthermore it 
 happened whether the A/B change was initiated by either the K3 buttons or 
 the POWERSDR panel.  Upgrade to version xxx.35 to fix it.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 GM0ELP wrote:
 If I have different modes (cw/ssb) in A and B VFOs, when I press A/B the
 frequency being passed to VFO A goes up 600Hz (cw) or down 600Hz (ssb) 
 each
 time A/B is pressed. Anyone else see this? What am I doing wrong?

 TNX

 Doug GM0ELP 

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[Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not 750 watts each,
but per pair.  There are only three amps in existance, and no devices have
been destroyed (yet).  Again, 500 watts is a very conservative rating.
It's been key-down for 10 minutes withy no problems.

73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 filter alignment

2010-04-17 Thread Nidge (Nigel Smith)
Hi Ed

Would another FFT program be suitable.  Once I get the K2 I have here up and 
running
my intention is to use a program such as Spectrum Lab or Spectrum2000, the 
former
is my preference.

Regards

Nidge (G0NIG)

IO93dv


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Subject: [Elecraft] K2 filter alignment


 All,



 I was trying to do EME yesterday and today w/ Arecibo and realized my 
 filter
 alignment is horrible. I did this years ago following the spectrogram
 procedure but it is not right.



 The computer I used for this is long dead, and I get a bad link to
 spectrogram when I follow the Elecraft link.



 Does anyone know where a good copy is?



 Tnx,

 Ed wa3drc

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 filter alignment

2010-04-17 Thread Nidge (Nigel Smith)
Sorry just realised that the program I meant was Analyzer2000

The URL's for both packages are below

Regards

Nidge (G0NIG)

IO93dv

http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html

http://www.brownbear.de/



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From: Nidge (Nigel Smith) nig_sm...@o2.co.uk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 filter alignment


 Hi Ed

 Would another FFT program be suitable.  Once I get the K2 I have here up 
 and
 running
 my intention is to use a program such as Spectrum Lab or Spectrum2000, the
 former
 is my preference.

 Regards

 Nidge (G0NIG)

 IO93dv


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 From: Ed Finn edfi...@verizon.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:57 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 filter alignment


 All,



 I was trying to do EME yesterday and today w/ Arecibo and realized my
 filter
 alignment is horrible. I did this years ago following the spectrogram
 procedure but it is not right.



 The computer I used for this is long dead, and I get a bad link to
 spectrogram when I follow the Elecraft link.



 Does anyone know where a good copy is?



 Tnx,

 Ed wa3drc

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[Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb

2010-04-17 Thread Foxjazz
Hello Elecraft,

  Hello Don,


  I had the pll working before I did phase 3 and put the ssb board in.

  It was working great, now it isn't. I thought I would run a quick
  voltage test before continuing. Now the pll freq is 0.000

  I reviewed the test results and re-tinned T5 just to ensure good
  conductivity.

  When I ran the resistance checks the base resistence of Q6 was at
  372 ohms not 100-140 as the book says.

  the unit turns on draws 0.24 amps

  0.22 without the ssb board in.

  Why would the pll circuit just quit working, would q20 have anything
  to do with it?

  The voltages at q18 are a bit high.





I had the pll vol


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[Elecraft] FS K2/10 S/N 4629

2010-04-17 Thread Mike Donovan

For sale:  Elecraft K2/10
S/n 4629
c/w K160RX and KNB2 
Tuned and adjusted by Don Wilhelm Dec. 2009
Decided QRP is not for me.

$625.00 plus freight
US and Canada Only
Paypal preferred

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 filter alignment

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed,

You can find details of how to do the filter alignment using Spectrogram 
on my website www.w3fpr.com - it is in Part 3 of the article on K2 Dila 
Calibration.

Tom Hammond N0SS also has information for using Spectrogram on his 
website www.n0ss.net.  Tom also has version 5 of Spectrogram available 
as a download from his site.

73,
Don W3FPR

Ed Finn wrote:
 All,

  

 I was trying to do EME yesterday and today w/ Arecibo and realized my filter
 alignment is horrible. I did this years ago following the spectrogram
 procedure but it is not right.

  

 The computer I used for this is long dead, and I get a bad link to
 spectrogram when I follow the Elecraft link.

  

 Does anyone know where a good copy is?


   
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread S Sacco
The VRF2933 is rated 3:1 Load VSWR Capability at Specifi ed Operating
Conditions according to its datasheet; perhaps that's why there no
built-in ATU.



On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
fa...@panix.com wrote:
 There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not 750 watts each,
 but per pair.  There are only three amps in existance, and no devices have
 been destroyed (yet).  Again, 500 watts is a very conservative rating.
 It's been key-down for 10 minutes withy no problems.

 73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 filter alignment

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Nidge,

Yes, you can use most any application that will give you a spectrum 
display.  Some do not provide the features I constantly use in 
Spectrogram, such as the presence of 2 frequency markers that extend 
from the top of the display to the bottom, and the ability to place a 
third marker as a crosshair anywhere on the display - those plus the 
current cursor position give me the use of 4 markers, and the amplitude 
display occupies more space on the display than several others I have 
tried.  But the real answer is YES, you can use any of them, however Tom 
Hammond's how to use for the K2 documentation only applies to 
Spectrogram version 5.

73,
Don W3FPR

Nidge (Nigel Smith) wrote:
 Hi Ed

 Would another FFT program be suitable.  Once I get the K2 I have here up and 
 running
 my intention is to use a program such as Spectrum Lab or Spectrum2000, the 
 former
 is my preference.

 Regards

 Nidge (G0NIG)
   

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
At any phase angle with no signal degradation.  Minimum 20 dB gain,
300 watt output 400 typical per device.  So being operated very
conservatively.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, S Sacco nn4x.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 The VRF2933 is rated 3:1 Load VSWR Capability at Specifi ed Operating
 Conditions according to its datasheet; perhaps that's why there no
 built-in ATU.



 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 fa...@panix.com wrote:
 There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not 750 watts each,
 but per pair.  There are only three amps in existance, and no devices have
 been destroyed (yet).  Again, 500 watts is a very conservative rating.
 It's been key-down for 10 minutes withy no problems.

 73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi All'

Works for me..Bring it on Elecraft...!!!
Gary

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 At any phase angle with no signal degradation.  Minimum 20 dB gain,
 300 watt output 400 typical per device.  So being operated very
 conservatively.

 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, S Sacco nn4x.st...@gmail.com wrote:
  The VRF2933 is rated 3:1 Load VSWR Capability at Specifi ed Operating
  Conditions according to its datasheet; perhaps that's why there no
  built-in ATU.
 
 
 
  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
  fa...@panix.com wrote:
  There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not 750 watts each,
  but per pair.  There are only three amps in existance, and no devices
 have
  been destroyed (yet).  Again, 500 watts is a very conservative rating.
  It's been key-down for 10 minutes withy no problems.
 
  73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Foxjazz,

Do you have a real name and a call?  We here on the Elecraft reflector 
certainly would like to know if you do.

Q6 on what board has the bad resistance reading?  The Q6 on the RF board 
has nothing to do with your PLL problem.

Is it at TP3 that you are getting a reading of 0.00 kHz?  If not, let's 
start from there.  The most likely source of no reading at TP3 is a 
problem with RF Board Q19.  And the problem wiht Q19 is most likely 
soldering somewhere in that circuit.  Turn to the schematic  for the RF 
board sheet 1 and look in the upper left quadrant (up to but not 
including U4) to identify all the components associated with the PLL 
Reference Oscillator.  Check the resistance from the source of Q19 to 
ground - it should be close to 270 ohms - if it is higher, check the 
lead tinning of RFC14.

You may have a solder bridge on the thermistor board (notice on the 
schematic that it is one of the components associated with the PLL Ref 
Osc).   Make a quick check - the voltage on pin 5 of RF Board U6 should 
be very close to 1/2 the voltage on the 8 volt rail (check that at U6 
pin 8).

Have you checked to be certain the counter probe is still working 
properly?  To check that, put the probe into TP2 to read the BFO 
frequency.  If that also reads .00, you have a problem either with 
the probe or Control Board Q9 and/or Q10.

Please be specific so we can help you better without creating a 'wild 
goose chase'.

73,
Don W3FPR

Foxjazz wrote:
 Hello Elecraft,

   Hello Don,


   I had the pll working before I did phase 3 and put the ssb board in.

   It was working great, now it isn't. I thought I would run a quick
   voltage test before continuing. Now the pll freq is 0.000

   I reviewed the test results and re-tinned T5 just to ensure good
   conductivity.

   When I ran the resistance checks the base resistence of Q6 was at
   372 ohms not 100-140 as the book says.

   the unit turns on draws 0.24 amps

   0.22 without the ssb board in.

   Why would the pll circuit just quit working, would q20 have anything
   to do with it?

   The voltages at q18 are a bit high.





 I had the pll vol


   
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread Brian Alsop
Just for curiosity, what do a pair of VRF2933 cost?  Availability?

73 de Brian/K3KO

Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 At any phase angle with no signal degradation.  Minimum 20 dB gain,
 300 watt output 400 typical per device.  So being operated very
 conservatively.
 
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, S Sacco nn4x.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 The VRF2933 is rated 3:1 Load VSWR Capability at Specifi ed Operating
 Conditions according to its datasheet; perhaps that's why there no
 built-in ATU.



 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 fa...@panix.com wrote:
 There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not 750 watts each,
 but per pair.  There are only three amps in existance, and no devices have
 been destroyed (yet).  Again, 500 watts is a very conservative rating.
 It's been key-down for 10 minutes withy no problems.

 73, doug
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2010-04-17 Thread Phil Shepard
The weekly SSB net is tomorrow (4/18)at 1800Z on 14.314 MHz. We'll  
listen for everybody. Hope to see you there.
73,
Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-17 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
Many thanks.  It looks lovely, but, for the 
moment, I'm actually content with LP-Pan.

Dick

At 01:59 PM 4/17/2010, Detlef Jahn wrote:
Dick, look at that page
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_p3.htm
'73 DL1GJ K3 366 Detlef Lake of Constance, nr Friedrichshafen


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Richard S. Lindzen rlind...@mit.edu
Gesendet: 17.04.2010 19:04:01
An: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] P3

With all this talk of the P3, I am still unable to find this item
listed on the Elecraft website.  Where is it?

Dick
KA1SA (Ser# 911)



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

The VRF2933 is rated for 300 Watts each according to the data 
sheet on the manufacturer's web site (Microsemi) ... That makes 
their use in a 500 W amplifier reasonable from an IMD perspective. 

The VRF 2933 minimum gain is also 20dB (23 dB typical) so it 
would appear that the KPA-500 should be capable of clean 
operation with 5 W of drive (e.g., K3 in low power mode). 
 
73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 
 


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug 
 Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 6:45 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
 
 
 There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not 750 
 watts each, but per pair.  There are only three amps in 
 existance, and no devices have been destroyed (yet).  Again, 
 500 watts is a very conservative rating. It's been key-down 
 for 10 minutes withy no problems.
 
 73, doug 


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread juergen

Hi Joe

Have you seen  any IMD data on these devices?


John


--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
 To: 'Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604' fa...@panix.com, 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:45 PM
 
 The VRF2933 is rated for 300 Watts each according to the
 data 
 sheet on the manufacturer's web site (Microsemi) ... That
 makes 
 their use in a 500 W amplifier reasonable from an IMD
 perspective. 
 
 The VRF 2933 minimum gain is also 20dB (23 dB typical) so
 it 
 would appear that the KPA-500 should be capable of clean 
 operation with 5 W of drive (e.g., K3 in low power mode). 
  
 73, 
 
    ... Joe, W4TV 
  
  
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
 On Behalf Of Doug 
  Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 6:45 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
  
  
  There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not
 750 
  watts each, but per pair.  There are only three
 amps in 
  existance, and no devices have been destroyed
 (yet).  Again, 
  500 watts is a very conservative rating. It's been
 key-down 
  for 10 minutes withy no problems.
  
  73, doug 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Bill K9YEQ
We must remember, Wayne and Eric are quite crafty.  They may come up with a
through the coax powered remote tuner to handle most types of antennas at
the antenna base to cooperate with those of us that are attempting to do
this at ridiculous cost.  And yes I would love to be a field tester for this
once again.

Bill
K9YEQ
K2 and KX1 field tester, K3 and modules
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS
+1-510-655-8604
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:52 PM
To: d...@vibrotek.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

   Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:36:36 -0600
   From: Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com

   According to Doug Faunt N6TQS, There is a button on front that says 
   ATU.  Of course, Doug could be pulling our legs or perhaps Wayne could 

You can read it on one of the photos I posted.  But this is just a
prototype- the K3 label..

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread juergen
Hi Brian

Digikey has  them listed for about 154 dollars per piece.

The datasheet mentions superb IMD performance however there is no IMD data on 
the datasheet. I wonder if they perform as well as the MRF150's?  in  terms of 
IMD performance.


John

--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
 To: 
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:42 PM
 Just for curiosity, what do a pair of
 VRF2933 cost?  Availability?
 
 73 de Brian/K3KO
 
 Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
  At any phase angle with no signal degradation. 
 Minimum 20 dB gain,
  300 watt output 400 typical per device.  So being
 operated very
  conservatively.
  
  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, S Sacco nn4x.st...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  The VRF2933 is rated 3:1 Load VSWR Capability at
 Specifi ed Operating
  Conditions according to its datasheet; perhaps
 that's why there no
  built-in ATU.
 
 
 
  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Doug Faunt N6TQS
 +1-510-655-8604
  fa...@panix.com
 wrote:
  There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so
 they're not 750 watts each,
  but per pair.  There are only three amps
 in existance, and no devices have
  been destroyed (yet).  Again, 500 watts
 is a very conservative rating.
  It's been key-down for 10 minutes withy no
 problems.
 
  73, doug
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread Dave KQ3T
Digi-Key has them listed at $153.34 each (Qty 1), down to $86.67 in lots 
of 1000.

They have 30 in stock, if you want to order spares early :)

73
Dave KQ3T


Brian Alsop wrote:
 Just for curiosity, what do a pair of VRF2933 cost?  Availability?

 73 de Brian/K3KO

   

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread elecraft
digikey has them at $153.34 each 

now the PA is out of the bag, perhaps we will see progress on the long 
promised board to lock the radio to an external referencethe ext ref 
socket on the k3 has been blanked off for a long time now! 

Dave 

ww2r 


 
 Message: 49
 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:42:39 +
 From: Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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 Just for curiosity, what do a pair of VRF2933 cost?  Availability? 
 
 73 de Brian/K3KO 
 
 

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[Elecraft] FW: P3 order form

2010-04-17 Thread Mike Short
You can place an order now on the following link:

http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_p3.htm

You are not charged until time of shipment.

Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Foxjazz,

(Eric may chastise me for this post because he, not I, is the list 
policeman, but I will do it anyway).

OK, I have learned from another ham here on the reflector that you do 
have a call and I looked up your name on QRZ.com.  N0XDB - Joseph T. 
Dickerson III.
Would you please use it on your subsequent emails to the reflector?  It 
will make you seem more like a human and a ham as opposed to some troll 
or someone who wants to remain anonymous.

In addition, I notice that you start your emails with Hello 
Elecraft,.  We here on the Elecraft reflector are *not* Elecraft.  We 
are a group of Elecraft owners, or prospective Elecraft owners.  Many of 
us are willing to help you as best we can, but we are certainly not the 
official Elecraft support organization.  If you wish to reach Elecraft 
support, the proper email is supp...@elecraft.com, and if you wish to 
reach sales, it is sa...@elecraft.com.

It is a fact that  some (but not the majority) of the Elecraft employees 
(and Eric and Wayne as owners)  often monitor this reflector, but there 
is no guarantee of that.  If your intent is to reach the real 
Elecraft, you should send email direct rather than to this reflector.

Yes, I *do* repair work for Elecraft, and to that extent, I am an 
Elecraft employee, but I am paid only for the actual repair work I do.  
Any support I provide here on this reflector is not a task for which I 
have been Elecraft authorized or for which I receive compensation, and 
my comments are not official.  I volunteer my time and comments here 
only as one ham helping out another ham - there is nothing Elecraft 
Official in my postings here on the reflector, they reflect only my own 
views and experiences.  I have had extensive experience with many of the 
Elecraft products, and am willing to share whatever knowledge I have 
with other hams in an effort to help them with whatever problem they are 
having.  If I do not feel I can help, I normally will not post a reply.

73,
Don W3FPR

Foxjazz wrote:
 Hello Elecraft,

   Hello Don,


   I had the pll working before I did phase 3 and put the ssb board in.

   It was working great, now it isn't. I thought I would run a quick
   voltage test before continuing. Now the pll freq is 0.000

   I reviewed the test results and re-tinned T5 just to ensure good
   conductivity.

   When I ran the resistance checks the base resistence of Q6 was at
   372 ohms not 100-140 as the book says.

   the unit turns on draws 0.24 amps

   0.22 without the ssb board in.

   Why would the pll circuit just quit working, would q20 have anything
   to do with it?

   The voltages at q18 are a bit high.





 I had the pll vol


   
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[Elecraft] Re: News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-17 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Doug,

Any idea about the likely pricing.  I am really looking for a linear that I can 
service it myself.

Can I suppose KPA500 will work with both K2 and K3?

73

Johnny VR2XMC



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寄件人﹕ Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 fa...@panix.com
收件人﹕ cr...@powersmith.net
副本(CC) elecraft@mailman.qth.net
傳送日期﹕ 2010/4/18 (日) 5:49:44 AM
主題: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

Rumor level now-
The modular jack on the back is currently undefined, but is NOT just
an extension of the K3 ACC connection.  An ATU connnected there was
mentioned.  And, as I said, there's a button with an ATU label.

The most knowledgeable person is no longer here, but the active devices are
apparently a pair of 750W devices running at 60VDC.

And it MAY deliver power without a ATU as well as some units that
have an ATU.

Delivery- end of this year.
that's all for now.

73, doug

  From: Craig D. Smith cr...@powersmith.net
  Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:13:23 -0600

  Only room for so much stuff in a K3 sized box.  I like the built-in Power
  Supply and the 500 W design point.  And, I'm even thankful that there isn't
  a built-in tuner, as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
  Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
  unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;)



  

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!

2010-04-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

John, 

It's not shown on the datasheet.  However, the VRF2933 is 
specified as a communications product (not a repurposed 
switching device) and is from the same family as the VRF150 
(upgraded MRF150) which is specified at -32dBc (-38 dB to 
ARRL standard).  Since the VFR2933 is a higher gain part 
(20 dB minimum gain) than the MRF150/VRF150, I would guess 
the IMD performance might be a bit worse at maximum output. 

Still, with the VRF2933 rated for 300W minimum - 375 typical 
at 50V - the KPA-500 is not pushing them at 500W.  I'd look 
for IMD numbers on the mid to high 30's (ARRL spec). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  
 


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:50 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
 
 
 
 Hi Joe
 
 Have you seen  any IMD data on these devices?
 
 
 John
 
 
 --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
 
  From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
  To: 'Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604' fa...@panix.com,
  elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:45 PM
  
  The VRF2933 is rated for 300 Watts each according to the data
  sheet on the manufacturer's web site (Microsemi) ... That
  makes 
  their use in a 500 W amplifier reasonable from an IMD
  perspective. 
  
  The VRF 2933 minimum gain is also 20dB (23 dB typical) so it
  would appear that the KPA-500 should be capable of clean 
  operation with 5 W of drive (e.g., K3 in low power mode). 
   
  73,
  
     ... Joe, W4TV
   
   
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  
   [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
  On Behalf Of Doug
   Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
   Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 6:45 PM
   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 active devices!!
   
   
   There are two VRF2933's in push-pull, so they're not
  750
   watts each, but per pair.  There are only three
  amps in
   existance, and no devices have been destroyed
  (yet).  Again,
   500 watts is a very conservative rating. It's been
  key-down
   for 10 minutes withy no problems.
   
   73, doug
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Encoder problems continue.

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Nidge,

That means your problem is indeed confined to the display.

It is entirely possible that you have a bad output from the MCU (CB U6) 
at pin 14.  The most certain confirmation of that would be to replace it 
with another firmware chip.  Yes, with a 'scope, that fact could be 
either confirmed or denied, but without that validation, my next best 
guess is for a bad output from the MCU at pin 14.

If there is another K2 owner in your area who would allow you to swap 
Control Boards from their known working K2, that would confirm that the 
MCU chip is the most likely problem source, but lacking that 
possibility, the best recourse I can see is to obtain a replacement 
firmware chip from Elecraft and try that.  The bottom line is that 
digital circuit problems are difficult to analyze without a dual trace 
triggered 'scope and some knowledge of the initiating events (to 
determine when to trigger the 'scope).

73,
Don W3FPR

Nidge (Nigel Smith) wrote:
 Hi Don and Geoff

 Thanks for the replies both.

 First of all Geoff: I'm afraid I don't have a scope here anymore.  I did
 remove the MCU
 and checked the voltages, and this time on pin 14 of U3 I had the correct
 voltage close
 to 3.8V, with the MCU inserted it was below 100mV.

 Don:  I've checked the the readings at TP1, when spinning the encoder the
 frequency
 does not change.  At TP3 the frequency is close to 12,100KHz with Band +
 and close to 12,085KHz with Band - .

 I've also checked the 4MHz oscillator and this is spot on.

 The radio, when connected to Hamradio Deluxe works fine under computer
 control, both
 on receive and transmit.  The filters are off but that's because I'm unable
 to fine tune them
 as the encoder isn't working.

 Any more thoughts on the matter greatfully received.

 Regards

 Nidge (G0NIG)

   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PA Power Loss with Subreceiver Install

2010-04-17 Thread N3CAQ

Don,

Thanks for you reply. The PA fuse was not blown. I have reviewed all of my
software settings and still cannot figure out why I can't transmit in high
power.

Has anyone on the list seen this with thier K3 with a KRX3 Sub RX installed?

Thank you

73's

N3CAQ

-
73's

Dave M
K3 #3788
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[Elecraft] K3 button problem question

2010-04-17 Thread Paul Ferguson
Seven of my front panel buttons do not function on K3 #757. I also used the 
Switch Test to see that they give no scan codes. All other buttons work OK.

Looking at the the schematic for the Front Panel - Switches I see these seven 
buttons are all connected to the SCANADC0 line into U3. I took off the front 
panel and put an ohmmeter from ground to the SCANADC0 line, and it gives a few 
ohms. The other lines (SCANADC1-7) show as open.

I looks like either U3, C30, or R27 is bad. Does anyone see any other 
possibilities?

I don't relish replacing U3 since it is a 16-pin IC. Maybe some Chip-Quik or 
tiny cutters to snip the leads would ease the job.

73,
Paul
K5ESW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 button problem question

2010-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul,

I would suggest an email to k3supp...@elecraft.com.  Gary or Dale can 
likely give you more information on the most likely cause of this 
behavior than anyone else.  Unfortunately, it is a weekend right now, 
and I know that both do not work on Saturday or Sunday, so wait until 
Tuesday to get a response - they have to wade through a lot of email 
that builds up over a weekend.

73,
Don W3FPR

73,
Don W3FPR

Paul Ferguson wrote:
 Seven of my front panel buttons do not function on K3 #757. I also used the 
 Switch Test to see that they give no scan codes. All other buttons work OK.

 Looking at the the schematic for the Front Panel - Switches I see these 
 seven 
 buttons are all connected to the SCANADC0 line into U3. I took off the front 
 panel and put an ohmmeter from ground to the SCANADC0 line, and it gives a 
 few 
 ohms. The other lines (SCANADC1-7) show as open.

 I looks like either U3, C30, or R27 is bad. Does anyone see any other 
 possibilities?

 I don't relish replacing U3 since it is a 16-pin IC. Maybe some Chip-Quik or 
 tiny cutters to snip the leads would ease the job.

 73,
 Paul
 K5ESW
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[Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb

2010-04-17 Thread Foxjazz
Hello Don,

Don, the call was in the subject line.

Sorry for the confusion. I had the pll circuit working great with all
alignments before starting on phase 3 and putting the ssb board in.

As far as checking parts, the parts were correct when I checked them
the second time, and the pll circuit was working.

tp3 reads within tolerance.  Unfortunately I broke the agc gain
transistor handling the control board, so have to replace. But that
shouldn't affect my issue.

I was doing some voltage readings and found an issue on u5 on the rf
board. pin 1 was 5 volts.

U6: pin 5 was 4v on and 8 was 8 volts.

tp3 reads good, and checked good. However sometimes it feels as if it
doesn't check good because the band - doesn't keep the freq down on
occasions.

N0XDB
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mailto:fo...@foxjazz.net


Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:41:52 PM, you wrote:

 Foxjazz,

 Do you have a real name and a call?  We here on the Elecraft reflector
 certainly would like to know if you do.

 Q6 on what board has the bad resistance reading?  The Q6 on the RF board
 has nothing to do with your PLL problem.

 Is it at TP3 that you are getting a reading of 0.00 kHz?  If not, let's
 start from there.  The most likely source of no reading at TP3 is a 
 problem with RF Board Q19.  And the problem wiht Q19 is most likely 
 soldering somewhere in that circuit.  Turn to the schematic  for the RF
 board sheet 1 and look in the upper left quadrant (up to but not 
 including U4) to identify all the components associated with the PLL 
 Reference Oscillator.  Check the resistance from the source of Q19 to 
 ground - it should be close to 270 ohms - if it is higher, check the 
 lead tinning of RFC14.

 You may have a solder bridge on the thermistor board (notice on the 
 schematic that it is one of the components associated with the PLL Ref
 Osc).   Make a quick check - the voltage on pin 5 of RF Board U6 should
 be very close to 1/2 the voltage on the 8 volt rail (check that at U6 
 pin 8).

 Have you checked to be certain the counter probe is still working 
 properly?  To check that, put the probe into TP2 to read the BFO 
 frequency.  If that also reads .00, you have a problem either with
 the probe or Control Board Q9 and/or Q10.

 Please be specific so we can help you better without creating a 'wild 
 goose chase'.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Foxjazz wrote:
 Hello Elecraft,

   Hello Don,


   I had the pll working before I did phase 3 and put the ssb board in.

   It was working great, now it isn't. I thought I would run a quick
   voltage test before continuing. Now the pll freq is 0.000

   I reviewed the test results and re-tinned T5 just to ensure good
   conductivity.

   When I ran the resistance checks the base resistence of Q6 was at
   372 ohms not 100-140 as the book says.

   the unit turns on draws 0.24 amps

   0.22 without the ssb board in.

   Why would the pll circuit just quit working, would q20 have anything
   to do with it?

   The voltages at q18 are a bit high.





 I had the pll vol


   



   


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[Elecraft] k2 pll and ref osc issues n0xdb

2010-04-17 Thread Foxjazz
Hello Don,

Also I forgot to mention again (I think I did in first post) that tp1
reads 0. freq.

freq probe.

pin 4 on t5 reads the same.



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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2010-04-17 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   A very nice week has come and gone again.  The snow has ceased falling and 
sun has reappeared in the skies over Oregon.  I have sat on a nearby stump and 
watched as the planets appeared from the glare of the sunset.  Finally, after 
almost forty years of off and on again viewing, I have seen Mercury at this far 
northern latitude.  Not just once but three times as it sank lower toward the 
sun.  On the 15th I saw it with the crescent moon and Venus making a scalene 
triangle in the sky.  Cool!
   Lately propagation has been getting hammered by a sequence of coronal mass 
ejections.  Too many too often caused propagation to worsen rather than 
improve.  When the sun quiets down just a bit the ionosphere should be well 
charged for our use.  Hopefully the higher bands will open more often too.  I 
have had a few contacts on 15 meters during the last month and have heard of 6 
meter openings.  I need to monitor that band more often.  I have a loop raised 
for it but currently the coax is not attached to the rig.  There was a 
thunderstorm which caused me to pull all the plugs and ground all the antenna 
switches.  It is difficult to hear with the antennas unhooked.

Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.
 
1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)
 
Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday z (Sunday 5 PM PDT)  7045 kHz
 
   Stay well,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net

2010-04-17 Thread David Guernsey
Copied the date and time for the net, but forgot to put down the freq.

Love my K3/10.

 73s de Dave KJ6CBS



  
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Re: [Elecraft] World Amateur Radio Day

2010-04-17 Thread Philippe Trottet
FYI
73'S
Philippe A65BI
K3#3616

 EARS e...@ears.ae 16-04-2010 8:17 
Dear All :
 
We are pleased to  invite you  to participate us in our  celebration with World 
Amateur Radio Day in our HQ on Sunday 18 April 2010
 
With special call sign A6WAD 
 
Best regards 
 
EARS
 
73
 
 
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[Elecraft] No transmitter gain.

2010-04-17 Thread David Quental
Hello again,

apart I do not get the transmitter gain on K3 Utility, doing the
transmitter gain on page 49 from Owner's Manual I get 0.0 watts in all
frequencies, however when I press ATU TUNE I get 5.0 watts.

Any help will be welcome.

Best 73.

CT1DRB
David Quental

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 button problem question

2010-04-17 Thread Dave Hachadorian
Interesting. I also have several buttons that don't work on my 
K3:
band up
mode up
ant
shift/lo/norm
rate/lock
NR

The radio is still usable, and I'm waiting for a break in the 
contests to send it in for repair.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


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From: Paul Ferguson p...@paulferguson.us
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 button problem question

 Seven of my front panel buttons do not function on K3 #757. I 
 also used the
 Switch Test to see that they give no scan codes. All other 
 buttons work OK.

 Looking at the the schematic for the Front Panel - Switches I 
 see these seven
 buttons are all connected to the SCANADC0 line into U3. I took 
 off the front
 panel and put an ohmmeter from ground to the SCANADC0 line, and 
 it gives a few
 ohms. The other lines (SCANADC1-7) show as open.

 I looks like either U3, C30, or R27 is bad. Does anyone see any 
 other
 possibilities?

 I don't relish replacing U3 since it is a 16-pin IC. Maybe some 
 Chip-Quik or
 tiny cutters to snip the leads would ease the job.

 73,
 Paul
 K5ESW
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