Re: [Elecraft] RIBBON MICROPHONE

2011-08-14 Thread Ny9h@comcastNet
To each his own,is right.

After 30years working under contract with sennheiser, then akg ,then shure 
brothers I learned how silky smooth a  $ .40  element can sound when properly 
enclosed in anything cute 

I must confess after being away from the mic biz for a few years it is amazing 
how many new players there in the " boutique " area of the biz,

I had never heard of cascade,,

But then must not forget, that David Letterman has a unconnected heil on his 
desk for looks.
It's even facing in the wrong direction, and it is not a bi-directional 
ribbon..


Bill. In prosperity

>From the mobile


On Aug 14, 2011, at 18:23, Mel Farrer  wrote:

> Well, I disagree.  I use a Cascade Fat Head ribbon microphone on my Bauer 707 
> AM transmitter and the reports are very flattering.  Now, I agree if you are 
> using a narrow sideband filter, it won't help you much, but then on my K3, 
> when I do move the ribbon mike into position, I use the 6 KHz filter and the 
> equalizer section turns the audio into a pleasant performer.  I do use a puff 
> filter in front to get rid of the "breathiness" issue.  To each his own.  
> IMHO, Cheers,
> 
> Mel, K6KBE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Fred Jensen 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RIBBON MICROPHONE
> 
> Indeed.  Being just a tad more naive than Jim, a condition that persists 
> to this day, my first college job included sign-on in early AM as the 
> only employee in the studio of a small FM station.  I used a fairly 
> large and clunky RCA ribbon mic on a desk stand in front of the board. 
> Everyone has seen them in old movies and the like, sort of prismatic in 
> shape.  I made a number of airchecks of the sign-on litany and 
> discovered that if I closed way up on the mic and spoke softly, I could 
> turn a 17-yr old voice into something a couple of octaves below Vaughn 
> Monroe.  It would have been a very poor mic for ham radio.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 8/14/2011 11:48 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> I wouldn't dream
>> of using them in my ham station.  They are delicate (easily broken),
>> very subject to P-popping and breathe noise, and emphasize the low end
>> of the voice (very bad for ham radio).
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (8/14/11)

2011-08-14 Thread Phillip Shepard
Propagation was better this week than in recent weeks.  There was no
discussion after the check-ins today.  We had 24 participants over a 20
minute period.  Have a great week.

Here is the list of participants.

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
KE4WY   Jim KY  K3  4864
N6JWJohnCA  K3  936 (and with K2 # 3290 at 
QRP)
WO1IDickMA  K3  911
W0RSR   MikeCO  K2  5167
W5OAI   Sam TX  K3  4123
KO5YKen NM  K3  4442
W9DVM   PhilFL  K3  1605
KC5RY   George  TX  K3  5208
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
K6CG/VE1DickNS  K3  3697
VE1CHW  Rob NS  K3  1680
XF1/K5ENS   Keith   XE  K3  2654(IOTA NA-045)
NC5GGeorge  TX  K2  2217
W9EJB   Ed  IN  K3  1593
K5LAD/m Jim OK  IC7000
K6DSW   Don CA  K3  3138
KA0NCR  Arnie   NE  K3  185
AC0NM   Glenn   OR  K3  2843
KK7PLyleWA  K3  3036
KE5RBS  Kelvin  AR  K2  7162
KL7UW   Ed  AK  K3  4043(QRP)
W3ACO   RichIA  K3  4002
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Headphone Impedance (was Pro Set Elite)

2011-08-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

The one place impedance might be important is with regard to frequency
response.  Some of the early K3 headphone circuits has smaller value
coupling capacitors than the current production.  With low impedance
(< 16 Ohms) headphones the low value coupling capacitors resulted in
a low frequency roll off that bothers some operators.

I like the CM-500 and the *old* Heil Pro Set with 200 Ohm headsets for
that reason.  However, the my Heil is gone ... the mic housing broke
and Heil would not sell repair parts (more specifically they wanted
as much for the repair parts as it would have cost to buy a new
Pro Set HC-5!).  I bought two x CM-500 for less than one Pro Set.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/14/2011 9:52 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 8/14/2011 6:16 PM, rich kennedy wrote:
>> Is headphone impedance a critical factor in choosing your headphones?  
>> Thanks, 73, Rich, K3VAT
>
> NO!  The more important number is the "voltage sensitivity," which is
> usually expressed in dBSPL (acoustic loudness) for a standard driving
> voltage. Any decent headphones will work fine electrically with the K3
> unless you happen to have VERY SERIOUS hearing loss (like some of my
> friends).  I'm 69 years old and have moderate hearing loss, and I've yet
> to see decent phones that aren't loud enough.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for August 14th & 15th, 2011

2011-08-14 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
There was a little noise but the stations I heard were quite loud.   
Except for Fred.  Then he tuned and blasted in.  I missed the explanation  
since my ears were still ringing but found out he was running 500 watts  
 from his K3.  Once again weather reports were of much warmer weather than  
I am having.  I read about a year without a summer but now I have lived  
one.  While the rest of the US and Canada have had a heat wave I have had  
chilly to down right cold weather.  So I built a greenhouse to get some  
vegetables to eat during the fall.  Even though the season is short it is  
normally good enough for peas, beans, and lettuce.  For peppers and corn I  
need the hothouse.

Propagation was not great on 40 meters once again.  While trying to  
hear Phil, who should have been a fair contact from Oregon, I decided to  
move the forty meter net later in the day by one hour.  So next week it  
will be at 0100z instead of z.  Hopefully the band will wake up to a  
wider area before that time.  I'll post it again next week during my  
announcement but I wanted folks to know beforehand that they may have a  
much better chance of checking in rather than the bust it has been the  
last few months.  The net times will change again when we go through the  
Daylight Savings time change again later in the year.

 On to the lists =>

   On 14050 kHz at 2200z:
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K3 - 642
AC5P - Mike - OK - K3 - 2170
K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686

   On 7045.5 kHz at z:
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K3 - 642
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183
NS7P - Phil - OR - K3 - 1826

I hope the time change allows more folks to check in to the second  
net.  Only better propagation will help the twenty meter net and the sun  
is currently blank.  Like my lack of summer this solar cycle is lacking  
the punch of a solar maximum.  I remember listening to shortwave as the  
sun was sliding off its peak in 1959.  I was reading about IGY which had  
happened only a couple years before and found out much about the  
geophysical properties of earth.  A lot more exciting than reading my  
dad's metallurgy textbooks :)  I was probably the only kid in first grade  
who could spell molybdenum and manganese.  The history of the metals were  
fun but then you got into the crystallography of them which put me to  
sleep.  It took a few years to develop a taste for those parts of his  
texts.
Until next week stay well,
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)

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[Elecraft] Saving K2 configurationt

2011-08-14 Thread John D'Ausilio
Are there any programs around that can save/restore configurations for
the K2? I'm sure I remember seeing one many years ago, but I'm not
turning up anything obvious in my searching ..

de w1rt/john
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission

2011-08-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The going back to the "last saved" frequency is a dead giveaway that
the power has been EXTERNALLY removed or glitched without the benefit
of manual power off (which allows K3 to go through all its "save
stuff" shutdown routines).  This will bring you up on the previous
frequency. If the previous operation was a different mode, it will go
to that mode as well.

Don't let the lack of an obvious connection to RIT off get you onto a
tangent.  Fix the problem with the power wiring or power supply and
see what is left afterwards.  You may never be able to explain why it
happened with RIT.  I could guess that turning on RIT causes a spike
of K3 CPU power consumption to do all the processing crap needed to
turn on RIT, and is the straw that broke the camel's back.  But I
don't know that, and it doesn't matter.

The power problem could be those power pins (that are now gold
anodized) going bad.  You can read about that problem on the Elecraft
site.

73, Guy.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Lou Kolb  wrote:
> I'm having a similar problem with k3 4290.  I have qrq mode turned on but
> when I engage the RIT which turns QRQ mode off and then transmit, the rig
> shuts down.  It also comes back on a different frequency when I power it
> back up.  If I leave the RIT off, it doesn't happen.  I thought it might be
> firmware related and had been meaning to reinstall version 436.  Then, 439
> was released so I just upgraded to it figuring that might solve the problem
> but no joy.  I'm at a loss to explain this so any thoughts would be welcome.
> Thanks.  lou  WA3MIX
> - Original Message -
> From: "K4SC" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:45 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission
>
>
>> After nearly two years of trouble free operation, I have developed a
>> repeatable problem.  While transmitting on 40 meter CW on my usual antenna
>> the K3 suddenly shuts down.  When I repower it, it comes back up fine, but
>> has shifted frequency by about 1.5 kHz.  This is occuring during
>> relatively
>> short transmissions.  Power was at 100 watts and swr was about 1.5:1.  I
>> tried turning power down to 75 watts and it repeated.  I then switched to
>> a
>> dummy load and it happens again; as I said it is definitely repeatable.  I
>> even updated the firmware, no joy!  Any thoughts.  I operated cw mostly so
>> I
>> can't say if this is also occuring on SSB.
>>
>> Thanks,  Chuck K4SC  South Carolina
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Headphone Impedance (was Pro Set Elite)

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/14/2011 6:16 PM, rich kennedy wrote:
> Is headphone impedance a critical factor in choosing your headphones?  
> Thanks, 73, Rich, K3VAT

NO!  The more important number is the "voltage sensitivity," which is 
usually expressed in dBSPL (acoustic loudness) for a standard driving 
voltage. Any decent headphones will work fine electrically with the K3 
unless you happen to have VERY SERIOUS hearing loss (like some of my 
friends).  I'm 69 years old and have moderate hearing loss, and I've yet 
to see decent phones that aren't loud enough.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission

2011-08-14 Thread Lou Kolb
I'm having a similar problem with k3 4290.  I have qrq mode turned on but 
when I engage the RIT which turns QRQ mode off and then transmit, the rig 
shuts down.  It also comes back on a different frequency when I power it 
back up.  If I leave the RIT off, it doesn't happen.  I thought it might be 
firmware related and had been meaning to reinstall version 436.  Then, 439 
was released so I just upgraded to it figuring that might solve the problem 
but no joy.  I'm at a loss to explain this so any thoughts would be welcome. 
Thanks.  lou  WA3MIX
- Original Message - 
From: "K4SC" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:45 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission


> After nearly two years of trouble free operation, I have developed a
> repeatable problem.  While transmitting on 40 meter CW on my usual antenna
> the K3 suddenly shuts down.  When I repower it, it comes back up fine, but
> has shifted frequency by about 1.5 kHz.  This is occuring during 
> relatively
> short transmissions.  Power was at 100 watts and swr was about 1.5:1.  I
> tried turning power down to 75 watts and it repeated.  I then switched to 
> a
> dummy load and it happens again; as I said it is definitely repeatable.  I
> even updated the firmware, no joy!  Any thoughts.  I operated cw mostly so 
> I
> can't say if this is also occuring on SSB.
>
> Thanks,  Chuck K4SC  South Carolina
>
> --
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[Elecraft] K3 Request for suggestions for my next K3 addition.

2011-08-14 Thread Jack Regan
Thanks to Doug, Jim, Jim, Dick (and anyone who I did not mention) for your
advice.

 

I am going with the P3 for now.  Leaving cost aside, it  seems to be the
best choice for my use. Adding the cost of filters to the 2nd receiver
makes the choice even clearer.

 

Jack AE6GC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission

2011-08-14 Thread Augie "Gus" Hansen

> I had this happen once and it turned out to be the Astron LM-35 power supply 
> I was using. It did not repeat on another supply I had. Still haven't looked 
> into repairing the Astron, but understand it is not an uncommon failure.

I had a similar failure with an Astron 18 amp supply. It would work 
well for a while then cut out under load intermittently. The problem 
was a wire connected to the circuit board that was making mechanical 
contact, but had never be soldered. After soldering the wire, I 
checked all the other solder connections and touched up a couple 
that looked marginal. All has been well since.

Gus Hansen
KB0YH

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[Elecraft] K-3 Headphone Impedance (was Pro Set Elite)

2011-08-14 Thread rich kennedy
Is it important to chose a headphone impedance close to what the K3 would like 
to see?  For example, Don recommended the Yamaha CM500 which, according to the 
website, has a headphone impedance of 120 ohms; other headphone impedances seem 
to run from around 32 ohms (the Yamaha RH2C) to several hundreds of ohms.  Is 
headphone impedance a critical factor in choosing your headphones?  Thanks, 73, 
Rich, K3VAT
--

Message: 30
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:03:19 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Pro Set Elite w/ K3
To: Shane 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Message-ID: <4e44a607.7090...@embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5

Shane,

It is my firm belief that the audio response should be controlled by the
transceiver, and not by the headphones or speakers (which should be
wide-range).

The more recent K3s (SN 3626 and above) contain the upgraded DSP board
which has the audio Low Pass filter to roll off the AF response above 4
kHz installed.

If you have an earlier K3, you can do the DSP board swap, or install the
Low Pass Filter board to your existing K3 DSP board.

You will find less expensive alternatives to the Heil headset in
computer headsets and in the much acclaimed (here on this reflector)
Yamaha CM500. I just purchased the CM500 from Sweetwater Sound for
$29.95 With free shipping) - it was a demo unit at half the normal
price. Heil products are overpriced for the function provided IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/11/2011 11:40 PM, Shane wrote:
> The boom is something I could really do without as I'm happy w/ my
> mic. I'm much more interested in the headphones themselves. I've been
> reading DX books and it would seem that most headphones are designed
> for high fidelity listening between 50 and 20,000 Hz. CW it says runs
> from 250 - 1000 Hz and SSB from 300 - 3000. It goes on to say that
> most transceivers generate white noise beyond 1 and can be very
> tiring for a listener.
>
> So I was wondering if these Heil headphones are more meant for this
> type of application taking into account the above.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission

2011-08-14 Thread William Ravenel
I had this happen once and it turned out to be the Astron LM-35 power supply I 
was using. It did not repeat on another supply I had. Still haven't looked into 
repairing the Astron, but understand it is not an uncommon failure.

Will, AI4VE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission

2011-08-14 Thread Dennis Moore
Have your checked your power supply connections, or tried another power 
supply?

On 8/14/2011 5:45 PM, K4SC wrote:
> After nearly two years of trouble free operation, I have developed a
> repeatable problem.  While transmitting on 40 meter CW on my usual antenna
> the K3 suddenly shuts down.

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[Elecraft] K3 abruptly shuts off during CW transmission

2011-08-14 Thread K4SC
After nearly two years of trouble free operation, I have developed a
repeatable problem.  While transmitting on 40 meter CW on my usual antenna
the K3 suddenly shuts down.  When I repower it, it comes back up fine, but
has shifted frequency by about 1.5 kHz.  This is occuring during relatively
short transmissions.  Power was at 100 watts and swr was about 1.5:1.  I
tried turning power down to 75 watts and it repeated.  I then switched to a
dummy load and it happens again; as I said it is definitely repeatable.  I
even updated the firmware, no joy!  Any thoughts.  I operated cw mostly so I
can't say if this is also occuring on SSB.

Thanks,  Chuck K4SC  South Carolina

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with SSB/NB/60m/160m for sale

2011-08-14 Thread Chip Stratton
I posted this to the reflector two days before putting it up on Ebay, where
it is now and ends Monday. I lowered the BIN price a bit a few days after
the auction went live.

Chip
AE5KA

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dennis Moore  wrote:

> Isn't this already on eBay with a Buy It Now price of $720.00?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Elecraft-K2-Transceiver-SSB-CW-QRP-w-Heil-microphone-/120759986576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1ddb2990
>
> Dennis NJ6G
>
> On 8/6/2011 10:57 AM, Chip Stratton wrote:
> > I've posted this for sale on QRV for $750 shipped within the USA if
> anyone
> > is interested.
> > Check it out here:
> > http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?307664-Elecraft-K2-with-SSB-NB-60m
> >
> > 73
> > Chip
> > AE5KA
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [k3] dvr playback question

2011-08-14 Thread Gary Gregory
It is absolutely pointless to play recorded audio back to the station IF you
are trying to show him how good or bad his/her audio is.

The amount of change in the signal quality between RX and Tx in your own
transceiver is more than enough to alter the sent audio.

Even going to the effort of centering your TxEQ and RxEQ will not enable you
to transmit a true representation of the transmitted audio from the 'other'
station.

It can of course let the sending station know how strong his signal at your
station?

I have heard quite a few stations use various radios and gadgets to play
on-air recorded audio and I have yet to hear one that was a good
representation of the original audio. Again, it is all the perception of the
individual...:-)

Gary

On 15 August 2011 03:48, Sam Morgan  wrote:

> I have sent on air recorded audio of a station
> back to them successfully
> but my alc only shows about 7 bars when I do so
>
> I'm also curious where the K3 determines the level
> at which it retransmits that recorded audio?
>
> perhaps it has something to do with the level of the audio
> being heard over the speakers/phones by the operator
> when the recording is made??
>
> GB & 73
> K5OAI
> Sam Morgan
>
> On 8/14/2011 12:16 PM, Mike Rodgers wrote:
> > I thought the question was in regard to recording another ham on the air
> and
> > playing it back to him over the air?
> >
> > It was said the alc was sky high thus the playback not being a accurate
> > representation with no way to adjust except rf gain trial and error.
> >
> > I have not used my dvr for that but find it hard to believe that it's not
> > come up before? And Lyle thanking the gentleman for bringing it to his
> > attention. Surely there's got to be operators doing this successfully.
> No?
> >
> > Of course I could have totally misunderstood the question.
> >
> > 73 Mike R
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] RIBBON MICROPHONE

2011-08-14 Thread Mel Farrer
Well, I disagree.  I use a Cascade Fat Head ribbon microphone on my Bauer 707 
AM transmitter and the reports are very flattering.  Now, I agree if you are 
using a narrow sideband filter, it won't help you much, but then on my K3, when 
I do move the ribbon mike into position, I use the 6 KHz filter and the 
equalizer section turns the audio into a pleasant performer.  I do use a puff 
filter in front to get rid of the "breathiness" issue.  To each his own.  IMHO, 
Cheers,

Mel, K6KBE




From: Fred Jensen 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RIBBON MICROPHONE

Indeed.  Being just a tad more naive than Jim, a condition that persists 
to this day, my first college job included sign-on in early AM as the 
only employee in the studio of a small FM station.  I used a fairly 
large and clunky RCA ribbon mic on a desk stand in front of the board. 
Everyone has seen them in old movies and the like, sort of prismatic in 
shape.  I made a number of airchecks of the sign-on litany and 
discovered that if I closed way up on the mic and spoke softly, I could 
turn a 17-yr old voice into something a couple of octaves below Vaughn 
Monroe.  It would have been a very poor mic for ham radio.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org

On 8/14/2011 11:48 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> I wouldn't dream
> of using them in my ham station.  They are delicate (easily broken),
> very subject to P-popping and breathe noise, and emphasize the low end
> of the voice (very bad for ham radio).
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with SSB/NB/60m/160m for sale

2011-08-14 Thread Dennis Moore
eBay shipping for that one is $20, so $740 shipped.

Dennis NJ6G

On 8/14/2011 2:13 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> Ebay stuff is usually priced PLUS shipping, Dennis. $750 sounds about right
> including shipping.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Moore
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:38 PM
> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 with SSB/NB/60m/160m for sale
>
> Isn't this already on eBay with a Buy It Now price of $720.00?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Elecraft-K2-Transceiver-SSB-CW-QRP-w-Heil-microphone-/12
> 0759986576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1ddb2990

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Re: [Elecraft] RIBBON MICROPHONE

2011-08-14 Thread Fred Jensen
Indeed.  Being just a tad more naive than Jim, a condition that persists 
to this day, my first college job included sign-on in early AM as the 
only employee in the studio of a small FM station.  I used a fairly 
large and clunky RCA ribbon mic on a desk stand in front of the board. 
Everyone has seen them in old movies and the like, sort of prismatic in 
shape.  I made a number of airchecks of the sign-on litany and 
discovered that if I closed way up on the mic and spoke softly, I could 
turn a 17-yr old voice into something a couple of octaves below Vaughn 
Monroe.  It would have been a very poor mic for ham radio.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org

On 8/14/2011 11:48 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> I wouldn't dream
> of using them in my ham station.  They are delicate (easily broken),
> very subject to P-popping and breathe noise, and emphasize the low end
> of the voice (very bad for ham radio).
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[Elecraft] KPA500 hum

2011-08-14 Thread VE3NFK
Hi

I see this has been mentioned before - but my KPA500 was pretty quiet when I
first got it (plugged in - but not 'ON')  

Now - sometimes - it has a pretty loud hum while 'OFF'  - I turned the power
switch at back on / off a couple of times - and it quieted down..  after a
couple of minutes it started humming again at what I consider is an
objectionable level, stopped for a minute - now humming again.

Just listening to 20 meters, nothing else going on..

Any suggestions?  ( I have turned the back power switch 'OFF' for the moment
- but that is quite inconvenient)

thanks  73   John VE3NFK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Request for suggestions for my next K3 addition.

2011-08-14 Thread Doug Turnbull
I use both the P3 and second rx but to be honest feel the P3 is the most
useful of the two options.   With ST0R there were so many people calling
them from all over the world that it was often difficult to find the station
he was responding to and when he did there was no guarantee that the next
station would be in the same immediate frequency range.   At times on the
lower bands it seemed to take a minute or so before they found another
station which could be copied.   At least with the P3 one can more easily
find a spot where at least in your part of the globe there is less activity
and you might hope to be heard.   I also found this especially useful when
going after RTTY contacts with ST0R whom I have my only six RTTY QSOs ever
with.   It was again possible using the waterfall and regular spectrum
display to find a place to call without excessive interference.   The P3 is
a God send for me and I would not wish to be without it.   I use to use an
Orion II and missed its panadaptor but the P3 has it beat hands down.   As
the P3 is less expensive you might first get a P3 and then add the second RX
with desired filters later.   Elecraft has done well with the modular
approach.   Spoke with a US ham last night who suffered lightning damage and
got by with just replacing the Kio3 board - not bad but of course a direct
hit and he would have had a lump of carbon to replace.   Disconnect antennas
when not using radios.

At this station a second K3 SN 5487 replacing my Orion II and shortly both
the P3 and second Rx are being ordered to complete the setup.   Elecraft has
done a fine job and continues with the K3/P3 development.   Perhaps Flex is
as good I do not know but none are better than the Elecraft company when it
comes to support.How many other companies have their owner/designers
monitoring and occasionally adding comments to the reflector.   Good job and
thank you Elecraft.   Maybe I am being too much of a booster but such is how
this cynic now feels.

 73 Doug EI2CN  

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jack Regan
Sent: 14 August 2011 19:52
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Request for suggestions for my next K3 addition.

I am not a serious contester but I do take advantage of the opportunities
afforded by contests to search and pounce on new DX!

 

Between the 2nd receiver and the panadapter, which would give me the most
bang for my buck! 

 

BTW, I sold my AL-811H, among other items, to buy a KPA500!  I have found
that the extra 500-600 watts makes all the difference in the world given my
antenna restrictions, my location, and my restricted operating time!

 

I know that the 2nd receiver allows finding the frequency that the DX
station is listening to but I have always been able to get thru pile ups
just by listening for his instructions re: listening up.  Sometimes it takes
a little patience!  

 

Thanks for any and all suggestions and or advices,

Jack AE6GC

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Re: [Elecraft] CM-500 w/K2

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/14/2011 12:16 PM, Eugene Balinski wrote:
> Anyone using the Yamaha CM-500 with the K2?

Should work very well.  The K2 is a bit low on audio gain, and the CM500 
is a pretty hot mic, which should compensate nicely. See my RFI tutorial 
for details of how to bias the electret. There's also info in the Power 
Point on Ham Interfacing. See the K2 manual for details of wiring of the 
mic connector.  You'll need to make a simple cable adapter. Both of my 
pdfs list a source for cable-mount 1/8-in jacks, and you buy the 
connector for the K2 at ham vendors.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/publish.htm

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with SSB/NB/60m/160m for sale

2011-08-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ebay stuff is usually priced PLUS shipping, Dennis. $750 sounds about right
including shipping.

Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Moore
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:38 PM
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 with SSB/NB/60m/160m for sale

Isn't this already on eBay with a Buy It Now price of $720.00?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Elecraft-K2-Transceiver-SSB-CW-QRP-w-Heil-microphone-/12
0759986576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1ddb2990

Dennis NJ6G

On 8/6/2011 10:57 AM, Chip Stratton wrote:
> I've posted this for sale on QRV for $750 shipped within the USA if anyone
> is interested.
> Check it out here:
> http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?307664-Elecraft-K2-with-SSB-NB-60m
>
> 73
> Chip
> AE5KA

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with SSB/NB/60m/160m for sale

2011-08-14 Thread Dennis Moore
Isn't this already on eBay with a Buy It Now price of $720.00?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Elecraft-K2-Transceiver-SSB-CW-QRP-w-Heil-microphone-/120759986576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1ddb2990

Dennis NJ6G

On 8/6/2011 10:57 AM, Chip Stratton wrote:
> I've posted this for sale on QRV for $750 shipped within the USA if anyone
> is interested.
> Check it out here:
> http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?307664-Elecraft-K2-with-SSB-NB-60m
>
> 73
> Chip
> AE5KA

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Re: [Elecraft] CM-500 w/K2

2011-08-14 Thread Eugene Balinski
Anyone using the Yamaha CM-500 with the K2?

Comments ?

73
Gene K1NR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Request for suggestions for my next K3 addition.

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/14/2011 11:52 AM, Jack Regan wrote:
> Between the 2nd receiver and the panadapter, which would give me the most
> bang for my buck!

The P3 will help you find where the DX is listening, will help you find 
open spots in a crowded band, and will help you identify and trace RF 
noises in your RX.  The P3 is also super useful when monitoring a dead 
band (like 10M and 6M) for activity.

The sub-RX lets you actually LISTEN to the DX pileup, and is useful for 
diversity reception if you work much 40, 80, and 160M.

For general operation and DX chasing, the P3 is more useful.  For 
serious weak signal work on the lower bands, the Sub-RX is quite 
useful.  I also like being able to listen to two 6M frequencies (CW and 
SSB, or CW and digital) at the same time.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] grounding K3/KPA500

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/30/2011 6:43 PM, Radio Station wrote:
> I'm looking at getting the KPA500, but need to find a way to ground my K3 as
> well as the KPA500. I'm about 12 floors up in a high-rise and people have
> suggested to me that I should look into an artificial ground. Are there
> other suggestions, and artificial ground recommendations as well?

An earth connection is required ONLY for lightning safety, and in a high 
rise, the best and safest connection is to the steel frame of the 
building, AND to the green wire in the AC outlet.  Your ham gear should 
be bonded together, and to these two points.

A connection to the earth does NOT make your antenna work better, nor 
does it reduce noise, nor does it reduce RFI.  Proper BONDING (as 
described above) CAN help minimize both noise and RFI.

A long wire antenna needs some sort of counterpoise to serve as the 
return for antenna current, and the return for the fields produced by 
the antenna.  In most installations, that function is best filled by 
radials. In yours, the bond to the building steel is likely to be VERY 
effective.

Don't even consider wasting your money on so-called "artificial grounds" 
and stuff like that.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control

2011-08-14 Thread Richard Squire - HB9ANM
I remember reading a post by someone at Elecraft (can't remember who it was)
saying it was a timing problem (well, call it a bug if you like) which would
be solved in the next FW release.
Someone wrote on this reflector he already had pre-beta release 1.11 and no
problem.
Let be patient!
73

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[Elecraft] K3 Request for suggestions for my next K3 addition.

2011-08-14 Thread Jack Regan
I am not a serious contester but I do take advantage of the opportunities
afforded by contests to search and pounce on new DX!

 

Between the 2nd receiver and the panadapter, which would give me the most
bang for my buck! 

 

BTW, I sold my AL-811H, among other items, to buy a KPA500!  I have found
that the extra 500-600 watts makes all the difference in the world given my
antenna restrictions, my location, and my restricted operating time!

 

I know that the 2nd receiver allows finding the frequency that the DX
station is listening to but I have always been able to get thru pile ups
just by listening for his instructions re: listening up.  Sometimes it takes
a little patience!  

 

Thanks for any and all suggestions and or advices,

Jack AE6GC

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Re: [Elecraft] RIBBON MICROPHONE

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/6/2011 10:39 AM, Bruce McLaughlin wrote:
>   the previous response indicated, there is no fundamental reason why you
> cannot use this microphone with the K3. However, as also indicated there are
> some drawbacks. As already mentioned, it appears this particular model does
> not have directional controls and so it will be bidirectional and sensitive
> to noise from the rear. And you should be aware that ribbon microphones are
> very sensitive to shock and vibration and can be easily damaged.

YES! A ribbon mic would be a VERY poor choice for use with any ham rig.

I'm an audio professional, and I own and love three fine ribbon mics. I 
use them for recording trumpet, banjo, and some voices. I wouldn't dream 
of using them in my ham station.  They are delicate (easily broken), 
very subject to P-popping and breathe noise, and emphasize the low end 
of the voice (very bad for ham radio).

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM filter (on receive) question

2011-08-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> With the 6 kHz filter, if you want to hear substantially greater than
> 3 kHz audio, you can use synchronous AM, or you can install the 13
> kHz filter and increase the width control to 5 kHz (the maximum).

No matter what (roofing) filter you use, the K3 will not reproduce more
than 4.5 KHz audio.  The DSP has a maximum high frequency cut-off of
4.2 KHz (the highest one case set "HI") and has a skirt selectivity
of approximately 0.10 dB/Hz (10 dB/100 Hz).   In addition to the DSP
selectivity, current production units have an additional 4.5 KHz analog
audio low pass filter following the digital to analog converter.

73,

... Joe, W4TV



On 8/14/2011 1:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Sam,
>
> Nothing inconsistent as long as you understand what is being displayed.
>
> The display is showing you the audio bandwidth, not the IF bandwidth.
>
> An AM signal has two sidebands extending on either side of the carrier,
> and if the width of an AM signal is 6 kHz, it would demodulate to a
> maximum of 3 kHz of audio (assuming a roofing filter with very steep
> skirts).
>
> With the 6 kHz filter, if you want to hear substantially greater than 3
> kHz audio, you can use synchronous AM, or you can install the 13 kHz
> filter and increase the width control to 5 kHz (the maximum).
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/14/2011 1:42 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
>> I have the KFL3A-6K   6 kHz AM/ESSB, 8-pole filter installed and working.
>> In AM mode, I tap XFIL and VFO B display says FL2 6.00
>> I hold SHIFT in and see<--NOR-->
>> I tap WIDTH and see BW 3.00  -or-  HI 3.00
>> I tap SHIFT and see *FC 1.50 -or-  LO 0.00
>>
>> when I turn WIDTH clockwise to it's maximum, I see BW 5.00
>>
>> 1st question
>> I thought I would be seeing BW 6.00
>> to match the settings of the AM filter
>> I realize the SHIFT and WIDTH refer to the DSP (I think)
>> and the XFIL refers to the IF filter
>>
>> but does what I'm seeing mean
>> I am not utilizing the full 6khz of the filter
>> and in AM Mode due to the DSP
>> I will never be able to actually have the full 6khz bandwidth?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2nd question
>> If I were to install the KFL3B-FM   13 kHz FM filter
>> I would then tap XFIL and see FLx 13.00
>> would I still see the same dsp results as I'm seeing now:
>> (meaning
>> I would hold SHIFT in and see<--NOR-->
>> I would tap WIDTH and see BW 3.00  -or-  HI 3.00
>> I would tap SHIFT and see *FC 1.50 -or-  LO 0.00
>> .)
>>
>> again would this mean
>> I would still not be getting anything more than 5.00 bandwidth?
>>
>> color me confused...
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Pro Set Elite w/ K3

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/11/2011 8:40 PM, Shane wrote:
> DX books and it would seem that most headphones are designed
> for high fidelity listening between 50 and 20,000 Hz. CW it says runs
> from 250 - 1000 Hz and SSB from 300 - 3000. It goes on to say that
> most transceivers generate white noise beyond 1 and can be very
> tiring for a listener.

While this was true of some older products (FT1000MP, some Ten Tec rigs,
etc.) it is NOT true of well designed ham gear, like the K3. High
fidelity headphones and loudspeakers are designed for SMOOTH (flat)
frequency response, not only WIDE response, and the SMOOTHNESS is FAR
more important in good communications quality and low listening fatigue.

Before W6XU turned me on to the CM500, I used Sony MDR7506 and Etymotic
Research ER4s, both very high quality, pro products. I strongly agree
with W3FPR that Heil products are wildly overpriced, and offer NO
advantages over fine products like the CM500.

73, Jim Brown K9YC
Fellow, Audio Engineering Society
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[Elecraft] Huntsville Hamfest & Monte Sano State Park QRP Event

2011-08-14 Thread CRAIG W BEHRENS





So far, we haven't had much response to the invitations we sent last week to 
attend a major QRP Event in Monte Sano State Park the evening of Saturday the 
21st.We are aware that we only sent the invitation about 10 days ago which 
could be too short a notice for people having to make travel plans.Another 
superb Southern Barbecue with Cherries Jubilee for desert (surely this isn't 
keeping people away) and another novel QRP contest with prizes is planned, but 
no expenditures have been made so far, pending the level of interest we get 
from this notification. (The shared contest station uses K3 and PoTA station 
uses K2.)The Huntsville Hamfest has several dinners that night that compete 
with this time period. And, this hamfest also has a large number of excellent 
seminars with celebrities presenting. So most people will be involved with 
these activities vs. this QRP opportunity.If interested--We need to hear from 
you within the next 2 days. If we get a reasonable response, we'll co
 ntinue with our plans. Otherwise, we'll forgo this event for this year and 
pursue it again next year with more advanced notice to help people get their 
travel plans in place, etc. (Reducing its scope is another possibility.)
We look forward to your timely response and/or feedback.Thanks.72/73 & DX,
Craig W. Behrens -- NM4T
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM filter (on receive) question

2011-08-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sam,

Nothing inconsistent as long as you understand what is being displayed.

The display is showing you the audio bandwidth, not the IF bandwidth.

An AM signal has two sidebands extending on either side of the carrier, 
and if the width of an AM signal is 6 kHz, it would demodulate to a 
maximum of 3 kHz of audio (assuming a roofing filter with very steep 
skirts).

With the 6 kHz filter, if you want to hear substantially greater than 3 
kHz audio, you can use synchronous AM, or you can install the 13 kHz 
filter and increase the width control to 5 kHz (the maximum).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/14/2011 1:42 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:
> I have the KFL3A-6K   6 kHz AM/ESSB, 8-pole filter installed and working.
> In AM mode, I tap XFIL and VFO B display says FL2 6.00
> I hold SHIFT in and see<--NOR-->
> I tap WIDTH and see BW 3.00  -or-  HI 3.00
> I tap SHIFT and see *FC 1.50 -or-  LO 0.00
>
> when I turn WIDTH clockwise to it's maximum, I see BW 5.00
>
> 1st question
> I thought I would be seeing BW 6.00
> to match the settings of the AM filter
> I realize the SHIFT and WIDTH refer to the DSP (I think)
> and the XFIL refers to the IF filter
>
> but does what I'm seeing mean
> I am not utilizing the full 6khz of the filter
> and in AM Mode due to the DSP
> I will never be able to actually have the full 6khz bandwidth?
>
>
>
> 2nd question
> If I were to install the KFL3B-FM   13 kHz FM filter
> I would then tap XFIL and see FLx 13.00
> would I still see the same dsp results as I'm seeing now:
> (meaning
> I would hold SHIFT in and see<--NOR-->
> I would tap WIDTH and see BW 3.00  -or-  HI 3.00
> I would tap SHIFT and see *FC 1.50 -or-  LO 0.00
> .)
>
> again would this mean
> I would still not be getting anything more than 5.00 bandwidth?
>
> color me confused...
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [k3] dvr playback question

2011-08-14 Thread Sam Morgan
I have sent on air recorded audio of a station
back to them successfully
but my alc only shows about 7 bars when I do so

I'm also curious where the K3 determines the level
at which it retransmits that recorded audio?

perhaps it has something to do with the level of the audio
being heard over the speakers/phones by the operator
when the recording is made??

GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan

On 8/14/2011 12:16 PM, Mike Rodgers wrote:
> I thought the question was in regard to recording another ham on the air and
> playing it back to him over the air?
>
> It was said the alc was sky high thus the playback not being a accurate
> representation with no way to adjust except rf gain trial and error.
>
> I have not used my dvr for that but find it hard to believe that it's not
> come up before? And Lyle thanking the gentleman for bringing it to his
> attention. Surely there's got to be operators doing this successfully. No?
>
> Of course I could have totally misunderstood the question.
>
> 73 Mike R
>
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[Elecraft] K3 AM filter (on receive) question

2011-08-14 Thread Sam Morgan
I have the KFL3A-6K   6 kHz AM/ESSB, 8-pole filter installed and working.
In AM mode, I tap XFIL and VFO B display says FL2 6.00
I hold SHIFT in and see <--NOR-->
I tap WIDTH and see BW 3.00  -or-  HI 3.00
I tap SHIFT and see *FC 1.50 -or-  LO 0.00

when I turn WIDTH clockwise to it's maximum, I see BW 5.00

1st question
I thought I would be seeing BW 6.00
to match the settings of the AM filter
I realize the SHIFT and WIDTH refer to the DSP (I think)
and the XFIL refers to the IF filter

but does what I'm seeing mean
I am not utilizing the full 6khz of the filter
and in AM Mode due to the DSP
I will never be able to actually have the full 6khz bandwidth?



2nd question
If I were to install the KFL3B-FM   13 kHz FM filter
I would then tap XFIL and see FLx 13.00
would I still see the same dsp results as I'm seeing now:
(meaning
I would hold SHIFT in and see <--NOR-->
I would tap WIDTH and see BW 3.00  -or-  HI 3.00
I would tap SHIFT and see *FC 1.50 -or-  LO 0.00
.)

again would this mean
I would still not be getting anything more than 5.00 bandwidth?

color me confused...

-- 
GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan
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Re: [Elecraft] can not seperate vfo a & b on 20m

2011-08-14 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The VFOs have become "linked". Hold the SUB button below and to the right of
the VFO A knob until you see "UNLINK" in the VFO B area.

You alternate between Sub receiver ON and OFF, LINK and UNLINK, and
Diversity on/off depending on how long you hold the SUB button.

Dick, K6KR

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of gold...@charter.net
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:25 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] can not seperate vfo a & b on 20m

Somehow I locked the VFO A & B together for 20m only.

If I change frq on VFO A I have VFO B track but only on 20 M.   I am 
searching the manual but I can not figure how I turned this on, as VFO B is
independant on the other bands.

So I know there is a setting to have this tracking feature but I want to
turn it off and I cant find the magic switch.

Thanks
Don

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Re: [Elecraft] disreguard found it on page 14 can not seperate vfo a & b on 20m

2011-08-14 Thread goldtr8
Please ignore the request for help I found the answere on page 14 of 
under sub.

~73
Don
KD8NNU


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, gold...@charter.net wrote:

> Somehow I locked the VFO A & B together for 20m only.
>
> If I change frq on VFO A I have VFO B track but only on 20 M.   I am 
> searching the manual but I can not figure how I turned this on, as VFO 
> B is independant on the other bands.
>
> So I know there is a setting to have this tracking feature but I want 
> to turn it off and I cant find the magic switch.
>
> Thanks
> Don
>
> ~73
> Don
> KD8NNU
>
>
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[Elecraft] can not seperate vfo a & b on 20m

2011-08-14 Thread goldtr8
Somehow I locked the VFO A & B together for 20m only.

If I change frq on VFO A I have VFO B track but only on 20 M.   I am 
searching the manual but I can not figure how I turned this on, as VFO B 
is independant on the other bands.

So I know there is a setting to have this tracking feature but I want to 
turn it off and I cant find the magic switch.

Thanks
Don

~73
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KD8NNU


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[Elecraft] [k3] dvr playback question

2011-08-14 Thread Mike Rodgers
I thought the question was in regard to recording another ham on the air and 
playing it back to him over the air?

It was said the alc was sky high thus the playback not being a accurate 
representation with no way to adjust except rf gain trial and error. 

I have not used my dvr for that but find it hard to believe that it's not come 
up before? And Lyle thanking the gentleman for bringing it to his attention. 
Surely there's got to be operators doing this successfully. No?

Of course I could have totally misunderstood the question. 

73
Mike R

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Re: [Elecraft] Filters for the KBPF3

2011-08-14 Thread VE3WDM
Thanks everyone for the input I placed my order last night along with the
KBPF3 I also order the 8 pole 6khz filter as well. 
Thanks again for the input.
Mike
VE3WDM

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[Elecraft] Firmware 4.39 for K3

2011-08-14 Thread jim danehy
I updated my K3 on Friday to firmware 4.39 releaased in early July 2011

I use it with my KPA500 (serial # 316)

In bearfoot mode the K3  runs 100 watts

In driving the amp mode I adjusted it to get all green LEDs (540 watts
output). It is reliable and works all the time

I think those that are having problems with the two power modes on the K3
need to get the most current firmware 4.39 installed

I often make mistakes. I am no authority but the above works for me.

73  Jim W9VNE
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Re: [Elecraft] Working Split Thanks

2011-08-14 Thread Tony Estep
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:53 AM,  wrote:

> Thanks for everyone who helped me understand working split

===

Cool, Don. Another DXer joins the pile!

For those who may be interested in more on DXing in pileups, there's good
advice on the page of the upcoming expedition HK0NA:

http://hk0na.com/how-to-work-us/

The guy on the other end wants to make as many QSOs as possible, as fast as
possible. The expert DXpeditioners who will be putting HK0NA on the air give
some flavor of how you can maximize your chances.

73,
Tony KT0NY


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[Elecraft] Working Split Thanks

2011-08-14 Thread goldtr8
Thanks for everyone who helped me understand working split.

I am not perfect on it yet but I did snag my first split contact today 
OJ0UR.

Without your help and pointing me to the right parts of the manual it 
would have not happened.

Thanks again for a great group!


~73
Don
KD8NNU


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control

2011-08-14 Thread John E. Reiser
Hi Nels, K1UR,

I agree.  It has to be a bug.  For it to be intended to work the way it does 
with the current firmware is simply illogical.

Being the weekend, I have not heard from anyone at Elecraft yet.  But I 
expect they will agree with us when they do respond tomorrow.

Thanks for your support.

73,  John, W2GW


- Original Message - 
From: "Nels Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control


>I reported this same issue way back in May when I first got my KPA500,
> but at the time there were so few amps out there that no one really
> cared. I still think it's a bug, but I was told my Elecraft that it was
> intended to work that way.
>
> 73 Nels K1UR
>
>
> On 8/13/2011 6:24 PM, John E. Reiser wrote:
>> Yes, that much works here too.
>>
>> What doesn't work is setting the KPA500 MENU: BAND CHG to STBY and 
>> expecting
>> that the power out from the K3 will reliably switch to higher power 
>> whenever
>> the amp is in STANDBY mode, both whether invoked by the button on the amp 
>> or
>> by simply changing bands on the K3, and then reliably dropping to an
>> appropriate lower level whenever the amp is put  in OPERATE mode by 
>> tapping
>> the operate/standby button on the amp.
>>
>> Whew!  I got it all into one sentence.  With 300+ KPA500s out there, am I
>> the only one to observe this?  Come on guys, can't anyone test this for 
>> me
>> with their setup?  How about it W4TV?
>>
>> 73, John, W2GW
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "D Joyce"
>> To: "Elecraft List"
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control
>>
>>
>>> Just to bring everyone up to date on the problem I reported last 
>>> evening -
>>> doing the K3 Config:Power Set -->  per band (as suggested by Ken K3IU)
>>> fixed
>>> the problem.  Band control works from either the K3 or the KPA500 and K3
>>> power settings are rememberd for all bands.  Works slick.
>>>
>>> 73,  Doug
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "D Joyce"
>>> To: "Elecraft List"
>>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:41 PM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control
>>>
>>>
 Group:  I'm checking out a recently completed KPA500 (#234) running FW
 V1.11 with a K3/10 running FW Ver 4.36.   The K3/100 with which it will
 eventually be used is otherwise tied up and I wanted to confirm the the
 per-band power control feature when used with the K3.  (I'm using the 
 AUX
 interface cable.)

 It doesn't seem to work as described in the KPA500 Owner's Manual Rev 
 B -
 see page 9 Item 4 under Transmitting.  If I put the Amp in Standby and
 set
 the K3 for 5 W as a low power level and then turn the Amp to Operate 
 and
 run the K3 up to a drive level of about 8 W to produce about 100 Watts
 from the KPA500, then when I turn the Amp back to Standby the power 
 level
 is 8 W not 5W.

 Perhaps the per-band power control is dependent on using a K3/100 not a
 K3/10.

 Anyone else seeing the same thing?

 73,  Doug  VE3MV




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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] AUX Button

2011-08-14 Thread n5ge

Jack is correct.  That's the way it works on my K3.  When I tap the AUX button
the K3 switches to my Internal K144XV.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member


On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:44:16 -0700, Jack Brindle  wrote:

>This is one of the very rare occasions when I get to correct my good friend 
>N6CM.
>
>Bob is partially correct. When any radio but the K3 is selected in the 
>KPA500's menu, the AUX button currently has no function. It is reserved for 
>future use.
>
>If the K3 is the selected radio then presses of the AUX button, like all of 
>the buttons in the band group, are reported to the K3. It is up to the K3 to 
>determine what they actually do. I believe that current versions of K3 
>firmware will select the 2-meter transverter if it is installed. If not, then 
>the 10 meter band is selected.
>
>Tap it and see!
>
>Jack Brindle, W6FB
>
>
>On Aug 13, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Robert Friess wrote:
>
>> Hi Al,
>> 
>> The AUX button has no function at this time.  It is reserved for possible
>> future features.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Bob, N6CM
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Al Lorona  wrote:
>> 
>>> What is the AUX button on the KPA500 for?
>>> 
>>> Al  W6LX
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control

2011-08-14 Thread Nels Anderson
I reported this same issue way back in May when I first got my KPA500, 
but at the time there were so few amps out there that no one really 
cared. I still think it's a bug, but I was told my Elecraft that it was 
intended to work that way.

73 Nels K1UR


On 8/13/2011 6:24 PM, John E. Reiser wrote:
> Yes, that much works here too.
>
> What doesn't work is setting the KPA500 MENU: BAND CHG to STBY and expecting
> that the power out from the K3 will reliably switch to higher power whenever
> the amp is in STANDBY mode, both whether invoked by the button on the amp or
> by simply changing bands on the K3, and then reliably dropping to an
> appropriate lower level whenever the amp is put  in OPERATE mode by tapping
> the operate/standby button on the amp.
>
> Whew!  I got it all into one sentence.  With 300+ KPA500s out there, am I
> the only one to observe this?  Come on guys, can't anyone test this for me
> with their setup?  How about it W4TV?
>
> 73, John, W2GW
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "D Joyce"
> To: "Elecraft List"
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control
>
>
>> Just to bring everyone up to date on the problem I reported last evening -
>> doing the K3 Config:Power Set -->  per band (as suggested by Ken K3IU)
>> fixed
>> the problem.  Band control works from either the K3 or the KPA500 and K3
>> power settings are rememberd for all bands.  Works slick.
>>
>> 73,  Doug
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "D Joyce"
>> To: "Elecraft List"
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:41 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control
>>
>>
>>> Group:  I'm checking out a recently completed KPA500 (#234) running FW
>>> V1.11 with a K3/10 running FW Ver 4.36.   The K3/100 with which it will
>>> eventually be used is otherwise tied up and I wanted to confirm the the
>>> per-band power control feature when used with the K3.  (I'm using the AUX
>>> interface cable.)
>>>
>>> It doesn't seem to work as described in the KPA500 Owner's Manual Rev B -
>>> see page 9 Item 4 under Transmitting.  If I put the Amp in Standby and
>>> set
>>> the K3 for 5 W as a low power level and then turn the Amp to Operate and
>>> run the K3 up to a drive level of about 8 W to produce about 100 Watts
>>> from the KPA500, then when I turn the Amp back to Standby the power level
>>> is 8 W not 5W.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the per-band power control is dependent on using a K3/100 not a
>>> K3/10.
>>>
>>> Anyone else seeing the same thing?
>>>
>>> 73,  Doug  VE3MV
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Elecraft] K3 DVR audio routing

2011-08-14 Thread Ed Picha
hi folks:

I am in the habit of recording receive audio with the DVR and for 
notable QSOs I like to save the recorded audio to a WAV file on the 
computer.   I move the cable going to the computer LINE IN to the K3 
SPKR port and then move it back when I am done recording the WAV file.  
It works, but it is clumsy.I can't come up with a way to route the 
DVR playback audio to the LINE OUT port on demand, has anyone done this 
before?

Thanks, 73
ed N9EP
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[Elecraft] Tokyo Ham fair 2011

2011-08-14 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Group,
 
Will I be able to meet some of the elecrafters in this year Tokyo Ham Fair?

TNX & 73,


Johnny VR2XMC
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[Elecraft] Fw: KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control

2011-08-14 Thread John E. Reiser

- Original Message - 
From: "John E. Reiser" 
To: "D Joyce" 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control


> Hi Doug,VE3MV,
>
> PWR ON is not the right control.  Try setting BAND CHG to STBY and you 
> will see what I'm concerned with.
>
> By the way, the reason that I want to have this working right is that two 
> of my WARC-band antennas are PAR EndFedz which can only take 100 watts. 
> If I am on 20 meters with the beam and have the amp on with 500 watts and 
> then go to 30 meters, I want the amp to automatically go to standby and 
> the power from the K3 to go up to 100 watts just because of the band 
> change.  It's supposed to work that way, but doesn't.
>
> 73, John
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "D Joyce" 
> To: "John E. Reiser" ; "Elecraft List" 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control
>
>
>> GM John:
>>
>> I'm not seeing that problem here with KPA500 s/n 234 and a recent K3/10 
>> (s/n 54xx).  I'm using FW 4.39 in the K3 and FW 1.11 in the KPA500. 
>> (Gary sent me this most recent FW for the Amp on Fri).
>>
>> I changed the PWR ON config in the KPA500 to "STBY" and the only thing it 
>> affects is the power setting when turning the Amp On.  Changing bands 
>> from either the K3 or the Amp doesn't change OPER to STBY or STBY to 
>> OPER. I've set the STBY power level to be 5 W and the OPER power level to 
>> be 125W (approx 8 W from the K3) on all bands (all in CW mode).  Then 
>> regardless of which unit is used to change bands and whether the Amp is 
>> in OPER or STBY the power levels are as just indicated.  It works as 
>> expected.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> 73,  Doug  VE3MV
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "John E. Reiser" 
>> To: "D Joyce" ; "Elecraft List" 
>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control
>>
>>
>>> Yes, that much works here too.
>>>
>>> What doesn't work is setting the KPA500 MENU: BAND CHG to STBY and 
>>> expecting that the power out from the K3 will reliably switch to higher 
>>> power whenever the amp is in STANDBY mode, both whether invoked by the 
>>> button on the amp or by simply changing bands on the K3, and then 
>>> reliably dropping to an appropriate lower level whenever the amp is put 
>>> in OPERATE mode by tapping the operate/standby button on the amp.
>>>
>>> Whew!  I got it all into one sentence.  With 300+ KPA500s out there, am 
>>> I the only one to observe this?  Come on guys, can't anyone test this 
>>> for me with their setup?  How about it W4TV?
>>>
>>> 73, John, W2GW
>>
>>
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control

2011-08-14 Thread D Joyce
GM John:

I'm not seeing that problem here with KPA500 s/n 234 and a recent K3/10 (s/n 
54xx).  I'm using FW 4.39 in the K3 and FW 1.11 in the KPA500.  (Gary sent 
me this most recent FW for the Amp on Fri).

I changed the PWR ON config in the KPA500 to "STBY" and the only thing it 
affects is the power setting when turning the Amp On.  Changing bands from 
either the K3 or the Amp doesn't change OPER to STBY or STBY to OPER.  I've 
set the STBY power level to be 5 W and the OPER power level to be 125W 
(approx 8 W from the K3) on all bands (all in CW mode).  Then regardless of 
which unit is used to change bands and whether the Amp is in OPER or STBY 
the power levels are as just indicated.  It works as expected.

Hope that helps.

73,  Doug  VE3MV

- Original Message - 
From: "John E. Reiser" 
To: "D Joyce" ; "Elecraft List" 

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control


> Yes, that much works here too.
>
> What doesn't work is setting the KPA500 MENU: BAND CHG to STBY and 
> expecting that the power out from the K3 will reliably switch to higher 
> power whenever the amp is in STANDBY mode, both whether invoked by the 
> button on the amp or by simply changing bands on the K3, and then reliably 
> dropping to an appropriate lower level whenever the amp is put  in OPERATE 
> mode by tapping the operate/standby button on the amp.
>
> Whew!  I got it all into one sentence.  With 300+ KPA500s out there, am I 
> the only one to observe this?  Come on guys, can't anyone test this for me 
> with their setup?  How about it W4TV?
>
> 73, John, W2GW

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Question re the K3s per band power control

2011-08-14 Thread John E. Reiser
Many thanks to Fred, K6DGW, Paul, NF8J, Frank,W6NEK, and Tom, W1TXT, who 
responded to my post regarding this problem.

They have all concurred that the K3 does not retain the dual power settings 
correctly when KPA500 MENU: BAND CHG is set to STBY.

I'm now confident that Elecraft will fix this in a future firmware release.  
Accordingly, I wish to end this thread.

73,  John, W2GW
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[Elecraft] KPA 500 in Europe?

2011-08-14 Thread F5vjc
Has anyone in Europe imported the KPA 500  kit?
I'm particularly interested in importing to France.

What was the final cost plus all taxes and carriage?

Thanks,

73, Deni

F5VJC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: K3 DVR question

2011-08-14 Thread oe9fwv
hi Lyle, 

thank you for your attention. I tried AGC and RF GAIN, and you are right,
this is the only way to influence the recorded signal level.
With the RF Gain I can adjust the recording level and I think loud signals
will sound better when replayed with the RF Gain down. Maybe an automatic
gain control for recording off the air would be the best?
The way it is now I have the impression that my transmitted AF Play audio is
overmodulated (and limited by ALC) This is based on signal reports I have
got from my ham friends nearby.
Whatever you decide how to solve the problem, either on the recording side
or on the replay side or even on both sides, I am sure it will improve the
situation. 

73! Werner OE9FWV


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