Re: [Elecraft] K3; Digital Voice on HF
It's free as in speech, as well as free as in beer :-) You can grab the source from sourceforge using subversion: https://freetel.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/freetel/fdmdv2/ I built it on my Mac, and made some QSOs with it on my KX3 -- it works FB. Here is what I did: 0) Pre-requisite: install Macports to provide dependent libraries: http://www.macports.org/install.php (I had already done this beforehand). 1) Check out source from subversion: svn co https://freetel.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/freetel/fdmdv2/ fdmdv2 2) Change into the directory and apply the Mac OSX patch: cd fdmdv2 patch -p0 README.osx 3) Install library dependencies: sudo port install wxWidgets30 +aui +universal portaudio +universal sox +universal libsndfile +universal libsamplerate +universal 4) Change to source directory and build: cd src make -f Makefile.osx 5) Run the program: open FreeDV.app Most of this is described in the README.osx file. There are probably pre-compiled binaries for MS-Windows on the main site, but as mentioned below, it seems like that site is down at the moment. 73, Matt VK2RQ. On 28/01/2013, at 6:10 PM, Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com wrote: (My apologies if this has been posted before) This will be a slam-dunk with a K3. One of our club members brought it to my attention. It is about FreeDV, which is digital voice on HF using only 1.1 KHz of bandwidth, and of course with digital, there is no noise. Here is an excellent video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zijJ556cs08 This second video is a talk explaining it, and an interview with the code developer in Sydney. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuiuonwEPm4 It sounds like it is free, but I was not able to bring up the website. (freedv.org) It may have been down for maintenance. Rich, n0ce __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Equalization
Rich, Yes, you are right. If you view the transmitter and receiver as a path along which the ESSB transmitter's mike audio travels, then the transmitter's wide filter and the receiver's narrow filter are in effect connected in series. Thus in this case the combined response of the Tx and Rx filters will determine the bandwidth of the audio heard at the receiver's output, which cannot be wider than that of the receiver's narrow filter. 73, Geoff LX2AO On January 28, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote: OM's, Please don't assume my question is a lecture on bandwidth. I am interested in the technical aspect of ESSB. Am I right in thinking the Rx stations with standard filter widths are not going to hear the extra Tx width of ESSB? Alan, I did read your reply. Rich, n0ce __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
I would say that is a common sense approach to the issue. Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:09 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group Bill, While I agree with you in general, there are occasions when the nitty gritty details are not of interest to the group. For instance, if I begin to help someone with a problem that gets into detailed measurements, that no longer is of interest to everyone, so I take it off-list. I leave it up to the discretion of the person with the problem to post whatever is the final resolution to the reflector. That sometimes happens, but sometimes does not. So, as long as I feel it is of general interest, I will post to the group, but if it is an individual question, I will go off-list. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/27/2013 8:52 PM, Bill Clarke wrote: Replies to posts should be to the group - NOT sent as private emails. Private emails are not seen by the group, hence no one in the group can learn anything or hear what is being said on a particular subject. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but there must be something better out there. What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better than what I have, the Perth among them. 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
OK Bill, here is a group posting. Posting to the group here runs the risk of frequent and protracted flames. Thus, I often post to individuals instead. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 1/27/2013 8:52 PM, Bill Clarke wrote: Replies to posts should be to the group - NOT sent as private emails. Private emails are not seen by the group, hence no one in the group can learn anything or hear what is being said on a particular subject. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2639/5561 - Release Date: 01/27/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Auto Tuning
What would be even nicer is to have the KAT500 perform a Autotune routine with a single button push, just like with the internal tuner, using the same button, designed for that purpose, in the same manner as all the YaeComWood competition does with the lowly MFJ998. As it is now, there is no advantage at my station to move from my existing MFJ998 to the KAT500. Im sure I will hear all about the three antenna ports vs two on the MFJ and auto antenna switching... All positives, true... A more automatic process would seal the deal for me to add another Elecraft product. As it is, another expenditure for the same or more manual button pushing is a deal breaker. Funny that the MFJ tuner integrates better with my secondary radio (a Kenwood) than a KAT500 would with the K3; simply using an interface made from a Ethernet cable with one end cut off. Cant *we* do it better? Lu - W4LT K-Line and a K1 - Message: 16 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:52:37 -0500 (EST) From: ac...@aol.com To: n...@n5ge.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Auto Tuning Message-ID: 22e15.3ba88710.3e371...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know when the new firmware will become available which will eliminate the need to Tap the XMIT button on the K3 after the KAT500 finds a match? It would be nice if we only had to hit the ATU TUNE button once on the K3 and the entire tuning process would be automatic. Mike AC6JA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] - KXFL3
Has anyone tried the KX3 both with and without the KXFL3? The manual says it results in a significant performance improvement in rejecting extremely strong interfering signals that are just a few kHz away from the received signal. I wonder if it's possible to quantify that? 73 Geoff G3UCK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I think you just summed it up nicely yourself. These telescopic antennas with loading coils at the bottom are all going to be many dB down from even a modest wire antenna on a push up pole, like a Jackite kite pole. possible exception: you are on a beach with your ankles in salt water. Fact is, you -can- make contacts on anything, including a dummy load, when conditions are great. Another fact is, conditions are not always great. My opinion is that if you put some thought into how to get some wire in the air, something that is packable and easy to set up, (Like the kite poles) you will be far more satisfied than messing with the small tapped coil (or adjustable coil) jobs. Yes, they will work- sometimes. But you'll get far more operating performance and enjoyment out of something else. It's fairly simple to bungee a pole to the edge of a picnic table, and you can easily have an 88ft doublet up as an inverted vee in no time. Good luck, Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
Yup I know about that. Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of briana Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:40 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group OK Bill, here is a group posting. Posting to the group here runs the risk of frequent and protracted flames. Thus, I often post to individuals instead. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 1/27/2013 8:52 PM, Bill Clarke wrote: Replies to posts should be to the group - NOT sent as private emails. Private emails are not seen by the group, hence no one in the group can learn anything or hear what is being said on a particular subject. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2639/5561 - Release Date: 01/27/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Well Antenna theory and operation, like the rest of physics, always hold true (nuclear blasts don't count)... so the more radiating surface (wire length or tubing surface) you can get in the air... the better. There is also a convenience factor, meaning whatever it is needs to tune for the band of operation and be easy to put up. Convenient low gain options: Long-wires are easy, cheap, and wonderful. Kites, balloons, weights tossed into tree limbs with fishing line, dangling down the side of buildings, etc. Push-up verticals are great too, but they need a counter poise of some sort (for the other half of the antenna... as it were), so include at least 3 radials (three obviously because they will be elevated... not dug into the ground for portable ops). Convenient portable gain options: 30-6 meters...Superantenna YP3 and portable tower is very worthy trapped beam antenna (I use this on dxpedition every year with amazing success), Spider beams, other wire beams that are simple to assemble... like wire verticals or delta loops. All excellent choices... There are many antennas in the category that others will fill in as favorites. Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but there must be something better out there. What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better than what I have, the Perth among them. 73, Fred/N0AZZ Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch Staunton, Illinois email: b...@wjschmidt.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Fred, for many, my self included, as long a wire as high up in a tree as I can get it, with a counterpoise about 50' long is my favorite. The antenna wire up in the tree and going down to ground at the far end, and to the rig (Via BNC to binder post adapter) is typically about 130' in my use. I have had great success and it is cheap, light, compact. If I am going to the beach or mountain top (no trees) I use either my Buddipole or the Ventenna, whichever I brought; they both work very well for me. Enjoy that KX3! 72 de Dave, W5SV On 1/28/13 6:26 AM, Fred Smith wrote: Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but there must be something better out there. What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better than what I have, the Perth among them. 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Look at the PAR end fed wire. So convenient, well made, works like a CHAMP. Use it with my own KX3. http://www.lnrprecision.com/ Have fun! -73- W4SK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Ok I give up I have some 31' telescoping fiberglass windsock poles collapse to 4' but still a hassle to setup. The guys, ground stakes, ground rod, counterpoise'sbut it will work well. At home now I have 75' of low loss RG-58U terminated with a BNC connector, I can go out on the deck and use all my antennas at home outdoors. Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I think you just summed it up nicely yourself. These telescopic antennas with loading coils at the bottom are all going to be many dB down from even a modest wire antenna on a push up pole, like a Jackite kite pole. possible exception: you are on a beach with your ankles in salt water. Fact is, you -can- make contacts on anything, including a dummy load, when conditions are great. Another fact is, conditions are not always great. My opinion is that if you put some thought into how to get some wire in the air, something that is packable and easy to set up, (Like the kite poles) you will be far more satisfied than messing with the small tapped coil (or adjustable coil) jobs. Yes, they will work- sometimes. But you'll get far more operating performance and enjoyment out of something else. It's fairly simple to bungee a pole to the edge of a picnic table, and you can easily have an 88ft doublet up as an inverted vee in no time. Good luck, Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
Although Me Toos are discouraged. Me Too! Also cuts down on the chest beating emails! 73 George AI4VZ -Original Message- From: briana Posting to the group here runs the risk of frequent and protracted flames. Thus, I often post to individuals instead. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Have a look at multi-band off-centre-fed dipoles, loads of examples and good reading here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/windom_antenna/ Also covers baluns and tuners David G3UNA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
I'll second that. I have the PAR 40/20/10 and it works great. Also good when there are no trees around is the Buddistick. It works well up to and including 30m, but not so well on 40 with the original whip and coil. Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, W4SK wrote: Look at the PAR end fed wire. So convenient, well made, works like a CHAMP. Use it with my own KX3. http://www.lnrprecision.com/ Have fun! -73- W4SK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging
The recommended 13.8V minimum is for the external supply, and does take into account the diode drop. 73, Rich AC7MA On 01/27/2013 03:42 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Mine charges just fine from a 13.8 VDC supply. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hi, I believe your PS reading is too low. The PS reading on the KX3 should be at least 13.8 volts. There is a polarity diode so your ext power supply should be 14+ volts. At least this what my KX3 needs to charge. 73 Jim H K7SSS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Equalization
Let's end of the ESSB debate thread. Eric List Moderator elecraft.com _..._ On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Scott Manthe scott.man...@gmail.com wrote: Wasted bandwidth, indeed. This is not the place to debate ESSB. It's a dead horse that has been beaten from the pasture to the glue factory. 73, Scott, N9AA On 1/28/13 12:07 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: IMHO, those who want studio quality SSB should obtain a commercial broadcasting license and use that instead of using the ham bands for wideband SSB. Not only is it wasted bandwidth, but it is QRM to adjacent stations. My opinion of AM on the ham bands is similar. Technology has advanced to the point where minimum bandwidth to achieve effective communications is all that should be used, and an audio bandwidth of 300 to 2600 Hz is more than adequate for good communications. 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
The intent is that you decide how your reply is to be handled. There are two ways to reply to messages in an email application. 1. If you select REPLY, your reply will only be sent only to the sender of the message. 2. If you select REPLY TO ALL, the message will go to the original sender AND the addresses in the CC: field. This message was created by selecting Reply To All from my email menu. It is up to you to decide which of above methods you want to use when replying to an email. That behavior is standard in all email applications I have used. Have fun and enjoy the reflector ;o) 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:13:14 -0800, Don Pomplun bluefl...@comcast.net wrote: Apparently this group is set up so that Replies go only to the individual, not the Group. That doesn't seem commensurate with expecting that replies will help others with similar problems. Which Is the intent? [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be nice on the 10/20/40m 8). What seems to be the issue on 40m with it? I could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m. Thx 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
I run my K3 from my shack which is in the corner of my dining room. I would like to sometimes run it remote from another room in my house. I have a wireless network in the house that I can access anywhere in the house. Is anyone in K3 land doing this, and if so, how? I also have an AL-811 amp in the shack, but would be OK without using it remote. I also have a LDG AT600-Pro, which I could leave on automatic. thanks, AE6RH K3 S/N 1997 -- Ron Midwin __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
The wire pulled up into a tree and tuned with the KX3 ATU works well for me 40 ft with 3 16 foot radials on the ground). So also does a PAR end fedz antenna, though I just have the 20m version. Sometimes putting a wire into a tree isn't the ideal (like on some SOTA peak activations). For that, I've found that the AlexLoop Walkham works amazingly well for something so easy to carry and set up. Big downside is the expense, but it has worked extremely well for me on 15, 20, and 30m. Not enough datapoints to comment on 40m or 10m, but it does tune up on those bands. Chip AE5KA On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote: I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be nice on the 10/20/40m 8). What seems to be the issue on 40m with it? I could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m. Thx 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] - KXFL3
Yes, it is possible to quantify it. See the measurements with and without the roofing filter here (you'll need to check the footnotes): http://www.sherweng.com/table.html wunder K6WRU On Jan 28, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: Has anyone tried the KX3 both with and without the KXFL3? The manual says it results in a significant performance improvement in rejecting extremely strong interfering signals that are just a few kHz away from the received signal. I wonder if it's possible to quantify that? 73 Geoff G3UCK __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Fwd: Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Fred, I think the 40m issues was in regard to the BuddiStick. I have just received my Par 10/20/40 and the included instructions tell how make your own length of wire to substitute for the original wire in order to cover any band of your choice. Dave KD4ICT Begin forwarded message: From: Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com Date: January 28, 2013 11:29:41 AM EST To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be nice on the 10/20/40m 8). What seems to be the issue on 40m with it? I could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m. Thx 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
Ron - Yes, very doable. I'm currently remoting my K3/10 that is a mile away via a wireless ISP network to my house using RemoteRigs and the K3/0. The performance is very good and almost like I was in front of the actual radio. Remoting your K3 while install your home network should be much easier and reliable. Plus RemoteRig offers a WiFi add-on board that will help with the ease in your setup. I just ordered one direct from RemoteRig last week. Call Elecraft and ask for Brandon, he is their expert on this subject and very good at helping you get started. 73,ChadN0YK Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:39:55 -0800 From: ronmidwin...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH? I run my K3 from my shack which is in the corner of my dining room. I would like to sometimes run it remote from another room in my house. I have a wireless network in the house that I can access anywhere in the house. Is anyone in K3 land doing this, and if so, how? I also have an AL-811 amp in the shack, but would be OK without using it remote. I also have a LDG AT600-Pro, which I could leave on automatic. thanks, AE6RH K3 S/N 1997 -- Ron Midwin __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
I have used the Ventenna HPp, several of the PAR ENDFEDZ, my own half wave contraptions, and random wires and counterpoises. They all *work*. The trick is to agree on the the term *work* and I don't think that's practically possible because there are just too many variables. The Fall 2011 (Volume 52, Number 4, page 50) issue of QRP Quarterly has a reprint of an excellent classic article by Joe Everhart, N2CX on the subject of portable antennas. It's practical, down-to-earth, and understandable even by those who don't anything about antenna theory. There is no math in this article. Well worth the effort to locate for all those interested in making the most of QRP-on-the-go. 73, Stan WB2LQF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
The PAR works great on 40m, it's the Buddistick that is inefficient on that band with the original coil and whip. A magnetic loop isn't hard to build. You can get an air variable capacitor, say 100pF, some soft copper coil from the hardware store and PVC tubing for support and build one in no time. The downside is the narrow bandwidth and potentially lethal voltages, but they work great. Here is one I made for 6m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,325.0.html And for 30/40m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,180.0.html I have enough copper left for a 10-30m version as well. Much cheaper than buying an already made one from Europe... Gil. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
Thanks Chad, I assume that what you're doing requires purchasing 2 of the Remote Rigs. I am looking for a less expensive method since I have not need to run the K3 from another location using the internet. I'd just like to know if there is a way to use what I have, interconnecting the K3 and K3/0 with my current network? thanks, Ron On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Chad Wasinger chadwasin...@outlook.comwrote: Ron - Yes, very doable. I'm currently remoting my K3/10 that is a mile away via a wireless ISP network to my house using RemoteRigs and the K3/0. The performance is very good and almost like I was in front of the actual radio. Remoting your K3 while install your home network should be much easier and reliable. Plus RemoteRig offers a WiFi add-on board that will help with the ease in your setup. I just ordered one direct from RemoteRig last week. Call Elecraft and ask for Brandon, he is their expert on this subject and very good at helping you get started. 73, Chad N0YK Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:39:55 -0800 From: ronmidwin...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH? I run my K3 from my shack which is in the corner of my dining room. I would like to sometimes run it remote from another room in my house. I have a wireless network in the house that I can access anywhere in the house. Is anyone in K3 land doing this, and if so, how? I also have an AL-811 amp in the shack, but would be OK without using it remote. I also have a LDG AT600-Pro, which I could leave on automatic. thanks, AE6RH K3 S/N 1997 -- Ron Midwin __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Ron Midwin __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to group
If you consume this list via iPhone in daily digest, it's a pain to reply to the group. You must copy and paste to include the origional message and basically create a new message that looks like a reply. Pain. It's much easier to reply direct and cut to the chase. I don't reply much to this list either group or direct for that reason and usually if I wait someone else will offer what I had in mind. On the yahoo group I probally talk too much! 73 Mike R Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin! Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC HF Echolink mobile __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
The par end fed z has served me well portable - used it for 2012 field day and placed second in our class - although we did have a hex beam as well for daytime operation - when 40 went long in the middle of the night - the par end fed did great. I typically get into eastern Europe with the par antenna when conditions are good. I used the 40-20-10 matchbox and turned it into a 30m monobander that also works great on 15m - so you can get 5 bands with two pieces of wire . I never got any distance with the Buddistick and sold it. Ariel NY4G Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Gil G. g...@keskydee.com wrote: The PAR works great on 40m, it's the Buddistick that is inefficient on that band with the original coil and whip. A magnetic loop isn't hard to build. You can get an air variable capacitor, say 100pF, some soft copper coil from the hardware store and PVC tubing for support and build one in no time. The downside is the narrow bandwidth and potentially lethal voltages, but they work great. Here is one I made for 6m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,325.0.html And for 30/40m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,180.0.html I have enough copper left for a 10-30m version as well. Much cheaper than buying an already made one from Europe... Gil. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Buddipole portable antenna
Fred: I have been using a Buddiepole antenna here on vacation in Florida. It has worked better than I expected and I have kept up scheds on 20 and 40M. Also several solid QSOs on 17M. Clearly, more radiator higher above ground would be much better, but in this location the Buddipole was a convenient solution. I have not tried the Buddistick. 73, Mike KD8DZ -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
Ron, You can connect the K3 and the K3/0 or another K3 using a null modem cable. The downside is that you do not have audio or keying capability on the local K3. If you can live with that, just connect with the null modem serial cable - no network involved. Hold CONFIG down for 3 seconds to put the K3 (or K3/0) into terminal mode. At least that is how it worked when Wayne first developed the code - some things may have changed since then. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ron Midwin wrote: Thanks Chad, I assume that what you're doing requires purchasing 2 of the Remote Rigs. I am looking for a less expensive method since I have not need to run the K3 from another location using the internet. I'd just like to know if there is a way to use what I have, interconnecting the K3 and K3/0 with my current network? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Thanks Dave I noticed that after I posted that my mistake. Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Higdon Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:50 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 Fred, I think the 40m issues was in regard to the BuddiStick. I have just received my Par 10/20/40 and the included instructions tell how make your own length of wire to substitute for the original wire in order to cover any band of your choice. Dave KD4ICT Begin forwarded message: From: Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com Date: January 28, 2013 11:29:41 AM EST To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be nice on the 10/20/40m 8). What seems to be the issue on 40m with it? I could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m. Thx 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2639/5563 - Release Date: 01/28/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
Stan
I have that printed thanks for pointing me to it and another resource. For
all the other comments I have made a sub-folder in my KX3 email folder for
the antenna ones for reference.
Another question what seems to be a minimum height for the Par to be
effective? Yes I know higher is better trying to get a handle on this for an
end fed. I have no experience with this type of antenna and thinking of
field use and supports.
Fred/N0AZZ
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Subject: [Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
I have used the Ventenna HPp, several of the PAR ENDFEDZ, my own half wave
contraptions, and random wires and counterpoises. They all *work*.
The trick is to agree on the the term *work* and I don't think that's
practically possible because there are just too many variables.
The Fall 2011 (Volume 52, Number 4, page 50) issue of QRP Quarterly has a
reprint of an excellent classic article by Joe Everhart, N2CX on the subject
of portable antennas. It's practical, down-to-earth, and understandable
even by those who don't anything about antenna theory.
There is no math in this article.
Well worth the effort to locate for all those interested in making the most
of QRP-on-the-go.
73, Stan WB2LQF
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[Elecraft] K3 ESSB question - data modes
In MARS, we use a mil data mode called M110A which requires 3 KHz of TX and RX audio bandwidth to achieve a low error rate at the higher bitrates (2400 and 4800). I've been trying it using DATA A, but error rates on the RX side (for non-K3 RXs) is still higher than acceptable. I'm assuming that the K3's TX and RX audio characteristics would be the same when using 3.0 KHz in ESSB. Since we have at least two Navy-Marine Corps MARS members in SCA with K3s, I was going to test RX error rate with each RX set up on ESSB 3.0, while my K3 was set up the same way for TX. Another way to assess usability is to run the N-GEN into the K3 RX while in ESSB 3.0. The output audio spectrum should show a clean audio band. Has anyone in this group done this already? If so, could I get a copy of the results? 73 and Thanks, Matt Zilmer, W6NIA/NNN0UET SCA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
The PAR (actually now LNRPrecision) antennas, as far as I can see, follow the same basic rules as the dipole rules. I've used them as Inverted Vs, Inverted Ls, flat tops, and slopers. My personal favorite method is the inverted L with a 33' fiberglass telescoping pole. This gets the maximum radiation point up nice and high. I deploy my L at 50/50 (half vertical, half horizontal) . If there is no other support available, I just hang the PAR from the pole and use it as an end fed vertical. 73, Stan WB2LQF On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Fred Smith wrote: Another question what seems to be a minimum height for the Par to be effective? Yes I know higher is better trying to get a handle on this for an end fed. I have no experience with this type of antenna and thinking of field use and supports. Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESSB question - data modes
As long as Eric has requested an end to this thread, perhaps we should move it to the Yahoo group. It is unfortunate that certain topics on this reflector are like being a long-tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. As a final comment; I haven't used ESSB, but the option was one of the things that influenced my decision to buy a K3. It adds to it's capability. Rich, n0ce - Original Message - From: Matthew Zilmer To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:30 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 ESSB question - data modes In MARS, we use a mil data mode called M110A which requires 3 KHz of TX and RX audio bandwidth to achieve a low error rate at the higher bitrates (2400 and 4800). I've been trying it using DATA A, but error rates on the RX side (for non-K3 RXs) is still higher than acceptable. I'm assuming that the K3's TX and RX audio characteristics would be the same when using 3.0 KHz in ESSB. Since we have at least two Navy-Marine Corps MARS members in SCA with K3s, I was going to test RX error rate with each RX set up on ESSB 3.0, while my K3 was set up the same way for TX. Another way to assess usability is to run the N-GEN into the K3 RX while in ESSB 3.0. The output audio spectrum should show a clean audio band. Has anyone in this group done this already? If so, could I get a copy of the results? 73 and Thanks, Matt Zilmer, W6NIA/NNN0UET SCA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
N0AZZ wrote Another question what seems to be a minimum height for the Par to be effective? Yes I know higher is better trying to get a handle on this for an end fed. I have no experience with this type of antenna and thinking of field use and supports. Fred, in terms of angle of radiation versus height, it will behave similar to a dipole. If you can get it up a half wavelength or higher in the air, great, but it will work well only a quarter wave off the ground (with higher angle of radiation). If the ground slopes down in the direction of propagation, it doesn't have to be high at all. I used it once on a mountain summit about 6ft off the ground and it worked like gangbusters. 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-On-the-subject-of-best-portable-antennas-tp7569259p7569271.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Makes me want to run out and build one right away!! :-) Lou, W0FK Gil G. wrote ...The downside is the ... potentially lethal voltages - St. Louis, MO K3 #2513, P3 #620, KX3 #0036 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Best-Antenna-Portable-Tabletop-Operation-for-KX3-tp7569238p7569272.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
I looked at the buddipole and similar types, but quickly rejected the notion ... It looked to me like you need to rebuild the antenna every time you change bands with those gadgets And that just wouldn't work for me. I use a random wire with counterpoise with my KX1 and KX3 And rather than using trees for support, which can be a real PITA, I use a telescoping painters pole purchased at Lowes, support it with a speaker stand purchased from a music store (musiciansfriend.com), and guy it with rope It gets up to around 22 feet.. Don, N5LZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 5:26 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but there must be something better out there. What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better than what I have, the Perth among them. 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
If you use Cat to make a simple 3 wire null modem cable you could use the other wires for keying and audio. Jim K0XU Sent from my Xoom tablet On Jan 28, 2013 11:31 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Ron, You can connect the K3 and the K3/0 or another K3 using a null modem cable. The downside is that you do not have audio or keying capability on the local K3. If you can live with that, just connect with the null modem serial cable - no network involved. Hold CONFIG down for 3 seconds to put the K3 (or K3/0) into terminal mode. At least that is how it worked when Wayne first developed the code - some things may have changed since then. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ron Midwin wrote: Thanks Chad, I assume that what you're doing requires purchasing 2 of the Remote Rigs. I am looking for a less expensive method since I have not need to run the K3 from another location using the internet. I'd just like to know if there is a way to use what I have, interconnecting the K3 and K3/0 with my current network? __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
Yes, an end-fed half-wave is very similar the same as a center-fed half-wave. Surrounding trees probably make more difference than the feed point. wunder K6WRU On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:00 AM, stan levandowski wrote: The PAR (actually now LNRPrecision) antennas, as far as I can see, follow the same basic rules as the dipole rules. I've used them as Inverted Vs, Inverted Ls, flat tops, and slopers. My personal favorite method is the inverted L with a 33' fiberglass telescoping pole. This gets the maximum radiation point up nice and high. I deploy my L at 50/50 (half vertical, half horizontal) . If there is no other support available, I just hang the PAR from the pole and use it as an end fed vertical. 73, Stan WB2LQF On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Fred Smith wrote: Another question what seems to be a minimum height for the Par to be effective? Yes I know higher is better trying to get a handle on this for an end fed. I have no experience with this type of antenna and thinking of field use and supports. Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
I have been successful controlling my K3 using the KX3. In a nutshell, I setup a serial server and client using VPSE software to wirelessly interconnect the K3 and KX3 using TCP/IP. Then, I use WKRemote to key my K1EL keyer remotely (assuming you have K1EL...The best!!!) and Skype for VOIP. It's not prefect but I have been able to work DX while watching the kids play in the backyard . I'm very busy right now but I'm planning to write a simple white paper on the subject in the near future. 73, Robert-KP4Y From: Jim Rhodes jimk...@gmail.com To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH? If you use Cat to make a simple 3 wire null modem cable you could use the other wires for keying and audio. Jim K0XU Sent from my Xoom tablet On Jan 28, 2013 11:31 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Ron, You can connect the K3 and the K3/0 or another K3 using a null modem cable. The downside is that you do not have audio or keying capability on the local K3. If you can live with that, just connect with the null modem serial cable - no network involved. Hold CONFIG down for 3 seconds to put the K3 (or K3/0) into terminal mode. At least that is how it worked when Wayne first developed the code - some things may have changed since then. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ron Midwin wrote: Thanks Chad, I assume that what you're doing requires purchasing 2 of the Remote Rigs. I am looking for a less expensive method since I have not need to run the K3 from another location using the internet. I'd just like to know if there is a way to use what I have, interconnecting the K3 and K3/0 with my current network? __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
Actually, it IS a half-wave dipole, period. The ends are open circuits, consequently they exhibit the impedance of open circuits [very high], and the current, which creates most of the radiation, is in the center. Their radio advantage is that it is somewhat easier to elevate the high current portion of the wire. Logistically, they're light, small, easily transported, and not hard to deploy. They require some matching legerdemain to get your TX to cram power into the several thousand ohm end of the wire, but a half-wave dipole is a half-wave dipole, regardless of where you feed it. The familiar Buddipole in one of the horizontal configurations is an off-center-fed loaded half-wave dipole. Efficiency suffers of course because much of the electrical length is in the two inductors which don't radiate much, but I used one successfully for several years. Pretty heavy though. Don't overlook small magnetic loops such as the Alexloop [a bit pricey] or any of the much cheaper home brew versions. They are essentially insensitive to ground. I sold my BP and got an Alex, and it works at least as good as the BP and probably a little better, comes in a small canvas carrying case, sets up on a light tripod about 2 meters high, QSY's 40 to 10 in an instant with the turn of a knob. Setup/teardown takes about 5 mins max. Several of the NA SOTA group have them and find them very effective. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org On 1/28/2013 11:03 AM, N1EU wrote: Fred, in terms of angle of radiation versus height, it will behave similar to a dipole. If you can get it up a half wavelength or higher in the air, great, but it will work well only a quarter wave off the ground (with higher angle of radiation). If the ground slopes down in the direction of propagation, it doesn't have to be high at all. I used it once on a mountain summit about 6ft off the ground and it worked like gangbusters. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] - KXFL3
Thanks Walter. I had forgotten that Rob Sherwood had tested it. Interesting. The dynamic range looks pretty good compared with other rigs even without the KXFL3. I don't have enough technical background to understand the significance of footnote v, though. Perhaps some knowledgeable person could explain? Would anyone who has a KX3 without a KXFL3 care to comment on their experience? 73 Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Walter Underwood Yes, it is possible to quantify it. See the measurements with and without the roofing filter here (you'll need to check the footnotes): http://www.sherweng.com/table.html wunder K6WRU On Jan 28, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: Has anyone tried the KX3 both with and without the KXFL3? The manual says it results in a significant performance improvement in rejecting extremely strong interfering signals that are just a few kHz away from the received signal. I wonder if it's possible to quantify that? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:52:29 -0500, Bill Clarke wrote: Replies to posts should be to the group - NOT sent as private emails. Private emails are not seen by the group, hence no one in the group can learn anything or hear what is being said on a particular subject. Absolutely. Apparently those words fall on deaf ears, even when directed to those who control it. This is the only group (of many) that I belong to that does this, and it is very inconvenient and rude to the rest of the group. Many more key presses/mouse clicks to change the addr to the group in my mailer. Gary P.S. This is the first posting that I've actually thought to change the address on without first letting it go only to the OP by mistake. -- Web: http://ag0n.net NodeOp Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp Node 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Potentially lethal reminds me of one particular engineer I encountered back when I managed haz waste site cleanups. He was deathly afraid of nackle. Short exposure was known to be deadly to plant and animals, and worker exposure limits were very short. Nackle, I had no clue until I translated- NaCl. Sodium chloride. Table salt. We were investigating a brine plant site 30 years after it was abandoned. Potentially lethal if you fell in 30 years before. Need dose info. Frequency, power, distance, receptor. Exposure limits for 5W, 20m, to people are around 5 feet IIRC. Note: my arm is less than 5 feet long. My leg has been pulled so often it may be approaching 5 feet long (grin). Rich NU6T W0FK llader...@earthlink.net wrote: Makes me want to run out and build one right away!! :-) Lou, W0FK Gil G. wrote ...The downside is the ... potentially lethal voltages - St. Louis, MO K3 #2513, P3 #620, KX3 #0036 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Best-Antenna-Portable-Tabletop-Operation-for-KX3-tp7569238p7569272.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
I wouldn't give up. I routinely use a 31 ft kite pole with nothing more than a plastic tent stake driven into the ground. I unscrew the bottom cap on the pole, and put it over the stake. This prevents the bottom of the pole from kicking outward. I bungee the pole against a picnic table or the handle on the end of my small pop-up camper. I use 300 ohm tv twin lead up the pole, with velcro ties in a couple places to hold it. The twin lead connects to (2) 44ft lengths of 22 ga wire to form an 88 ft doublet- no balun. The twin lead connects directly to the rig (with an internal ATU. No ground stake, no counterpoise. no guys. The antenna itself, pulled out as an inverted vee with maybe 6-10 ft of twine attached to each end is all the guying you need, if the pole is secured to a table of some other object. Total time to set up, less than 10 minutes. There are many other possible configurations, of course. This one simply works for me, with minimal hassle, and reliable results. 73, Bruce, N1RX -Original Message- From: Fred Smith [mailto:m...@mo-net.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:41 AM To: 'Bruce Beford'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 Ok I give up I have some 31' telescoping fiberglass windsock poles collapse to 4' but still a hassle to setup. The guys, ground stakes, ground rod, counterpoise'sbut it will work well. At home now I have 75' of low loss RG-58U terminated with a BNC connector, I can go out on the deck and use all my antennas at home outdoors. Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Post to the group
It may surprise you to know that dial-up internet access is still prevalent in many areas of Alaska (also no internet access along with no telephone or cell phone and no roads are also prevalent but this is where humans are also not prevalent). My parent's farm home in Michigan only had 51 kB/s dial-up service as none of the wireless networks would reach them (no cableTV or DSL). So there may be more than one thinks! But agree generally with points made by the original poster. I receive this reflector as a digest so there is a delay in time for me to read it. I have the reflector address saved in my address book and merely cut-n-paste the topic to a new e-mail to make replies. This means I must also cut-n-paste any of the previous text, so I tend to pare that down. I did not post any of the previous posts on this topic since everyone should know the topic by now. If not then just hit Delete. 73, Ed - KL7UW I have DSL 3-GB/s, landline, and DishNet-TVand ham radio :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - ACC Connector - Band0-3 output indicator
Tnx Joe, Don and Wes for feedback. I was leaning towards the 4 NPN's but first wanted to check in case I was missing something. The reason I want to see the value of BAND0-3 is that I will be monitoring the output with LED's of two UM BCD-14's. While building this project I want to see if there are any cases where there might be a conflict. My project is to use BAND0-3 as input for automatic operation to one BCD-14 while I will use a binary encoder for manual operation as input to the other BCD-14. I will use a pair of hex buffers to switch between auto and manual antenna band selection. I will use another pair of hex buffers to select which bank of antenna outputs I want. The plan is to use DIGOUT1 (Front panel ANT1/ANT2) to select which bank. This gives me auto operation with two antennas per band, which is what I have for most bands. Hopefully this all makes sense. I have been procrastinating doing this project for a long time. Finally got my 80M 4-sq with elevated radials working well and now the ground is snow covered. So time for other projects. Couldn't find an off the shelf package that would do this. 73, N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:37 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - ACC Connector - Band0-3 output indicator Has anyone built or bought some kind of 4-indicator for this? I want to do this as a temporary indicator while I am playing with a pair of UM BCD-14 band decoders. Easy enough ... 4 NPN transistors - base to BAND0-3 pins, LED and limiting resistor between +13.8 and collector of the transistors, emitter of the transistor to ground. The output on the KIO3 for 60M has me concerned. Don't know why it should concern you. is just another state and I don't see used for any other band *or* any transverter band. Your bigger concern might be the reuse of one of the other band values for 2 Meters depending on how you decode HF vs. the transverter bands. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/27/2013 6:29 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote: I would like to see (LED) the state of the BAND0-3 outputs. Has anyone built or bought some kind of 4-indicator for this? I want to do this as a temporary indicator while I am playing with a pair of UM BCD-14 band decoders. The BAND0-3 outputs come off of 5V through 2.2K pull-up resistors with a 220 ohm resistor in series with the output on the ACC socket. It would seem standard 20ma LED's would not work here with the 2.2K resistor inline. Maybe a diode inline to isolate with a separate supply on the LED's or use some very low amperage LEDs or drive a Mosfet which drives a LED? The output on the KIO3 for 60M has me concerned. I want to make sure it doesn't cause me a problem when switching between 160-2M and between auto antenna selection and manual antenna selection. Tnx for any feedback. 73, N2TK, Tony __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] {OT} - On the subject of best portable antennas
The pattern is the same no matter how an antenna is fed. In terms of height vs pattern, here's a few reference points for height in wavelengths for a horizontal radiator to better quantify the higher is better rule (at least for working DX): 1/8 to 1/4 wave: About 6 dBi gain straight up. But it's a very broad lobe, wider at 1/4 wave, which is why people work DX with such an antenna. The gain is about 1 dBi at 20 degrees above the horizon. That's about the same pattern as a 1/4 wave vertical over a good ground system. Bottom line, at 1/4 wave up, you can work DX with it although higher is better, for example: 1/2 wave: main lobe at 25-30 degrees about 8 dBi. It's fairly broad with gains of about 3 dBi at about 10 and 50 degrees. 1 wave: main lobe at 14 degrees, about 8 dbi, fairly narrow with a secondary lobe nearly as strong at about 50 degrees 2 wave: lowest angle lobe at 7 degrees, about 8 dBi with multiple lobes at about 25, 30 and 60 degrees. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- N0AZZ wrote Another question what seems to be a minimum height for the Par to be effective? Yes I know higher is better trying to get a handle on this for an end fed. I have no experience with this type of antenna and thinking of field use and supports. Fred, in terms of angle of radiation versus height, it will behave similar to a dipole. If you can get it up a half wavelength or higher in the air, great, but it will work well only a quarter wave off the ground (with higher angle of radiation). If the ground slopes down in the direction of propagation, it doesn't have to be high at all. I used it once on a mountain summit about 6ft off the ground and it worked like gangbusters. 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-On-the-subject-of-best-portable-ante nnas-tp7569259p7569271.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] modified diagram for K3 Inhibit Control
I added a second diagram that shows my inhibit control circuitry for controlling only the K3. Relay K1 switches to enable inihibit on VHF+ bands but disables inhibit on HF. http://www.kl7uw.com/TX-INHIBIT.htm 73, Ed - KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:57:26 -0900, Edward R Cole wrote: It may surprise you to know that dial-up internet access is still prevalent in many areas of Alaska (also no internet access along with no telephone or cell phone and no roads are also prevalent but this is where humans are also not prevalent). My parent's farm home in Michigan only had 51 kB/s dial-up service as none of the wireless networks would reach them (no cableTV or DSL). So there may be more than one thinks! It might also surprise people to know that many more civilized areas of the US have limited speed (but I don't know what that has to do with this thread). My wireless is 30K down and 256 up. Dialup/backup is 21.2 at the best. Cable/DSL, non-existent. Not everyone lives in the city. At least you take the time to properly change the subject and edit out the extra stuff not pertinent to the thread. I hate it when subject says Re: Digest #, etc., and has 500 lines of non-edited content. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] 903 or 1296 Mhz Transverter
I am just wondering if there is a 903 or 1296 Mhz Transverter in the works? It would be a nice Addition to the Fleet of Elecraft Transverters. Thanks and 73, Kevin NZ1I K2 # 7362 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/903-or-1296-Mhz-Transverter-tp7569285.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
Hello, I meant potentially lethal if you touch the loop while transmitting, as in electrocution, not RF exposure… But we are diverting from the Elecraft subject here... Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Richard wrote: Need dose info. Frequency, power, distance, receptor. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 903 or 1296 Mhz Transverter
Down East Microwave makes several 900 MHz transverters using 10M or 2M as the IF. Prices look quite reasonable. Their 1..2 GHz products are unavailable under redesign. 73, Jim K9YC On 1/28/2013 1:36 PM, NZ1I wrote: I am just wondering if there is a 903 or 1296 Mhz Transverter in the works? It would be a nice Addition to the Fleet of Elecraft Transverters. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
On 29/01/2013 3:26 AM, Tom H Childers wrote: The intent is that you decide how your reply is to be handled. There are two ways to reply to messages in an email application. 1. If you select REPLY, your reply will only be sent only to the sender of the message. 2. If you select REPLY TO ALL, the message will go to the original sender AND the addresses in the CC: field. This message was created by selecting Reply To All from my email menu. [snip] For any one using Thunderbird (V17.0.2), when right clicking the message you also have the _Reply to List_ option which was selected for this reply. Using Thunderbirds reply button only goes to the original poster unfortunately. Cheers Paul vk3era __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
You can achieve perfect audio for CW if you use IP-Sound in stead of Skype. Skype works but the audio quality is not very good for CW. You may need to use VPN for IP-Sound. I use Hamachi which is easily installed and set-up. The audio quality for CW is comparable to being directly connected to the K3. ADDENDUM Although not related to K3/0 ... I can recommend the following set-up for remote control of K3 from a client laptop: Server (in shack): Teamviewer HRD Winkey Demo IP-Sound Hamachi VPN Client (opr pos) Teamviewer IP-Sound Hamachi VPN With these (all free) pieces of SW you can work real smooth RC. It really doesn't matter that it is not one piece of SW (as some might think). Using HRD only on the Server (as opposed to using it as Server/Client) you have the logbook and audio-grabbed files etc. all collected on the shack laptop (server). This may be useful if you operate either from the shack or remotely. I recommend using the WK Demo SW for K1EL keying of the K3. It is far superior to using the CW key in HRD, because the HRD keying is very slow-starting and also difficult to stop. WK Demo works real fast (both start and stop). When set up correctly you can work real QSK type QSOs. I recommend the following for remote control of K3 from iPhone: Server (in shack): Teamviewer K3iNetwork Skype Client (opr pos) Teamviewer SServer Skype NB: Mike KS7D is working on an app for remote control of K3 and keying with the iPhone used as a paddle (similar to iDitDah). If you are a keen CW opr and have K3 and iPhone, that should be really thrilling for you! 73 to all Poul-Erik, OZ4UN -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] På vegne af Robert Vargas (KP4Y) Sendt: 28. januar 2013 20:48 Til: Elecraft Reflector Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH? I have been successful controlling my K3 using the KX3. In a nutshell, I setup a serial server and client using VPSE software to wirelessly interconnect the K3 and KX3 using TCP/IP. Then, I use WKRemote to key my K1EL keyer remotely (assuming you have K1EL...The best!!!) and Skype for VOIP. It's not prefect but I have been able to work DX while watching the kids play in the backyard . I'm very busy right now but I'm planning to write a simple white paper on the subject in the near future. 73, Robert-KP4Y From: Jim Rhodes jimk...@gmail.com To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH? If you use Cat to make a simple 3 wire null modem cable you could use the other wires for keying and audio. Jim K0XU Sent from my Xoom tablet On Jan 28, 2013 11:31 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Ron, You can connect the K3 and the K3/0 or another K3 using a null modem cable. The downside is that you do not have audio or keying capability on the local K3. If you can live with that, just connect with the null modem serial cable - no network involved. Hold CONFIG down for 3 seconds to put the K3 (or K3/0) into terminal mode. At least that is how it worked when Wayne first developed the code - some things may have changed since then. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ron Midwin wrote: Thanks Chad, I assume that what you're doing requires purchasing 2 of the Remote Rigs. I am looking for a less expensive method since I have not need to run the K3 from another location using the internet. I'd just like to know if there is a way to use what I have, interconnecting the K3 and K3/0 with my current network? __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth. net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:
Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH?
Hi, regarding audio transfer consider using RemAud by DF3CB, a VoIP application designed especially for radio remote control over the Internet. http://df3cb.com/remaud/ 73, Win DK9IP Am 28.01.2013 23:39, schrieb Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA): You can achieve perfect audio for CW if you use IP-Sound in stead of Skype. Skype works but the audio quality is not very good for CW. You may need to use VPN for IP-Sound. I use Hamachi which is easily installed and set-up. The audio quality for CW is comparable to being directly connected to the K3. ADDENDUM Although not related to K3/0 ... I can recommend the following set-up for remote control of K3 from a client laptop: Server (in shack): Teamviewer HRD Winkey Demo IP-Sound Hamachi VPN Client (opr pos) Teamviewer IP-Sound Hamachi VPN With these (all free) pieces of SW you can work real smooth RC. It really doesn't matter that it is not one piece of SW (as some might think). Using HRD only on the Server (as opposed to using it as Server/Client) you have the logbook and audio-grabbed files etc. all collected on the shack laptop (server). This may be useful if you operate either from the shack or remotely. I recommend using the WK Demo SW for K1EL keying of the K3. It is far superior to using the CW key in HRD, because the HRD keying is very slow-starting and also difficult to stop. WK Demo works real fast (both start and stop). When set up correctly you can work real QSK type QSOs. I recommend the following for remote control of K3 from iPhone: Server (in shack): Teamviewer K3iNetwork Skype Client (opr pos) Teamviewer SServer Skype NB: Mike KS7D is working on an app for remote control of K3 and keying with the iPhone used as a paddle (similar to iDitDah). If you are a keen CW opr and have K3 and iPhone, that should be really thrilling for you! 73 to all Poul-Erik, OZ4UN -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] På vegne af Robert Vargas (KP4Y) Sendt: 28. januar 2013 20:48 Til: Elecraft Reflector Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH? I have been successful controlling my K3 using the KX3. In a nutshell, I setup a serial server and client using VPSE software to wirelessly interconnect the K3 and KX3 using TCP/IP. Then, I use WKRemote to key my K1EL keyer remotely (assuming you have K1EL...The best!!!) and Skype for VOIP. It's not prefect but I have been able to work DX while watching the kids play in the backyard . I'm very busy right now but I'm planning to write a simple white paper on the subject in the near future. 73, Robert-KP4Y From: Jim Rhodesjimk...@gmail.com To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: Elecraft Reflectorelecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Use K3/0 in another room in my QTH? If you use Cat to make a simple 3 wire null modem cable you could use the other wires for keying and audio. Jim K0XU Sent from my Xoom tablet On Jan 28, 2013 11:31 AM, Don Wilhelmw3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Ron, You can connect the K3 and the K3/0 or another K3 using a null modem cable. The downside is that you do not have audio or keying capability on the local K3. If you can live with that, just connect with the null modem serial cable - no network involved. Hold CONFIG down for 3 seconds to put the K3 (or K3/0) into terminal mode. At least that is how it worked when Wayne first developed the code - some things may have changed since then. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ron Midwin wrote: Thanks Chad, I assume that what you're doing requires purchasing 2 of the Remote Rigs. I am looking for a less expensive method since I have not need to run the K3 from another location using the internet. I'd just like to know if there is a way to use what I have, interconnecting the K3 and K3/0 with my current network? __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth. net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**netElecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
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Sorry about the empty message, somehow managed to click send before my brain had engaged, not that it's ever fully engaged. Reply to List in T-bird doesn't work with *every* list, although it does for me for the Elecraft list. For the CWOps list [possibly Yahoo], everything replies to the originator. I have to select the address and replace it with the list address. On the other hand, for the North American SOTA list [Yahoo group], every option replies to the list. :-) I suppose these are features. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org On 1/28/2013 2:37 PM, Paul wrote: For any one using Thunderbird (V17.0.2), when right clicking the message you also have the _Reply to List_ option which was selected for this reply. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
I belong to the school of thought that the reason we have these lists/groups is to share information and solutions to problems. For that reason, I have all of the lists/groups that I administer/own set so that replies go to the group. Obviously, there are exceptions. For example, replies to FS/FT solicitations should go to the individual concerned. Bur if someone asks a question, just like in school, there is probably at least one other person who has the same question, so sharing is a good thing. 73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Don's comments on ESSB and AM
Don I agree with you both physiologically and technically about the ESSB and AM modes on the amateur radio bands. However, we have K3 radios that are configured to support all these modes. For that reason (IMHO), I believe it's important that they be properly supported and maintained by Elecraft or dropped as supported modes. There are at least two popular radios made by competitors that have attracted a portion of customers by offering ESSB as a mode. And there are groupies running AM especially on 160 meters, some with K3s. There are also broadcasters running ESSB in growing numbers with the FLEX and Yaseu 3000/5000 radios. I hear them often. Why? I don't get it but its real. The owner base of K3 users tend represent those who want to experienment and operate with all that's possible. The K3 can do that and play well in the company of the alternatives. 73, John, W1QS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
If you want something reasonably portable that will deploy quickly, you might consider the EFHW vertical antenna from the Emergency Amateur Radio Club in Hawaii: http://www.earchi.org/92011endfedfiles/Endfed6_40.pdf You can buy some or all of the parts needed from the club, and the cost includes Priority Mail shipping. The complete parts list an instructions are in the PDF file if you want to roll your own. I hate radials, so this turned out to be a great antenna. None required! You can hang it in a tree, or mount it on something like a 33-foot Jackite Pole. I've lost the source, but there is a video on YouTube that shows a ham in New York setting one up in an old umbrella stand on his deck. Check this out, also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWkpQ785Pjonoredirect=1 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 1/28/2013 6:12 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote: Convenient low gain options: Long-wires are easy, cheap, and wonderful. Kites, balloons, weights tossed into tree limbs with fishing line, dangling down the side of buildings, etc. Push-up verticals are great too, but they need a counter poise of some sort (for the other half of the antenna... as it were), so include at least 3 radials (three obviously because they will be elevated... not dug into the ground for portable ops). Convenient portable gain options: 30-6 meters...Superantenna YP3 and portable tower is very worthy trapped beam antenna (I use this on dxpedition every year with amazing success), Spider beams, other wire beams that are simple to assemble... like wire verticals or delta loops. All excellent choices... There are many antennas in the category that others will fill in as favorites. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [KX3] KXBC3 Battery Charge Times
A while back I uploaded a file to the KX3 Yahoo Group giving the percentage charge remaining by KX3 voltage display, and suggested charge times. This was based on the Sanyo datasheets for the Eneloop XX (I also uploaded both Eneloop XX and 2nd gen Eneloop (2000mAh) to the files section). I found in practice that the chart was quite inaccurate. I think this was due to I**2R losses in the battery pack spring clips, and battery leads. These losses in spring-clip battery packs have been documented by other hams. To update the figures, I partially discharged my KX3 Eneloop XX internal pack, then removed the batteries and put them in a battery analyzer. Knowing what their actual remaining capacity was, I then took another look at the Sanyo chart, and scaled the results to the datasheet. My pack was discharged to the 60% remaining capacity level, so I am very confidant for that data point. I'll have to repeat the experiment for other levels of remaining capacity to confirm the new table. I removed the old table from the files section of the KX3 Yahoo Group and uploaded the new one. If you don't want to join that group (I certainly understand why) email me and I will send you the PDF file. Remember, you must measure the voltage of the internal pack when it is under load at the 5w CW level--just going by the internal pack voltage when the KX3 is in receive will give you a very inaccurate number. To confirm this, I made both measurements and found the battery voltage in RX would change by .1 VDC vs. the voltage under TX would change by .3 VDC during a single 1/2 hour measurement period. To answer the flames I will get (again): 1. No, this data is not in the manual. 2. Yes, I specified measurement UNDER LOAD. 3. For 2nd-gen Eneloops (2000mAh) I suggest reducing the charge times by 20% as a starting point, since that is the approximate difference in capacity. If you are unsure of the charge time to specify, aim high. If you aim too high, the KXBC3 will terminate the charge when the pack gets warm. Also be sure your source voltage to the KX3 is high enough. It should be 13.8 VDC or higher. 73 Eric WD6DBM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA500 Keying Issue
My KPA500 will not key on 40 meters. It keys and puts out full power on all other bands. There is no asterisk showing on the KPA500 display when attempting to key and operate it on 40 meters. It's there on all other bands. VOX is on on the K3 on all bands. I just don't get any power out of the amp on 40. Latest firmware is on both the K3 and KPA500. Has anyone had a problem like this or have any ideas??? Tnx es 73, Dave N8AG Sent from my Kindle Fire __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Post to the group
There is also a Reply List button above the body of the message, along with a Reply button. No need to even right-click. When you have both buttons displayed, that's a pretty good indication that the default reply is to the sender. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 1/28/2013 2:37 PM, Paul wrote: For any one using Thunderbird (V17.0.2), when right clicking the message you also have the _Reply to List_ option which was selected for this reply. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Keying Issue
Any change you have DIGOUT1 enabled in the K3 for the 40m band? 73, ~iain / N6ML On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Dave's Mail w4...@yahoo.com wrote: My KPA500 will not key on 40 meters. It keys and puts out full power on all other bands. There is no asterisk showing on the KPA500 display when attempting to key and operate it on 40 meters. It's there on all other bands. VOX is on on the K3 on all bands. I just don't get any power out of the amp on 40. Latest firmware is on both the K3 and KPA500. Has anyone had a problem like this or have any ideas??? Tnx es 73, Dave N8AG Sent from my Kindle Fire __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I don't agree with that -- I think the moderator(s) keep attacks to a minimum, if that's what you mean by flames. Some people think a flame is a difference of opinion. I don't think that's the case -- this is a discussion group -- people discuss. Beyond that, I don't mind if people go off list, but I hope most universally interesting stuff stays on the list. 73- Nick, WA5BDU -- no flame intended. On 1/28/2013 6:40 AM, briana wrote: OK Bill, here is a group posting. Posting to the group here runs the risk of frequent and protracted flames. Thus, I often post to individuals instead. 73 de Brian/K3KO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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It has been my experience during the four years or so that I've subscribed to this reflector that by far the most helpful, interesting, and insightful correspondence has always occurred off-list in private e-mail exchanges. These exchanges in no way were deliberate attempts to be selfish with information or to be private to spite the group. They just happened, often long after the original post was beaten to death. I might go so far as to say that the majority of traffic occurs off-list. Probably most of you have the same experience. As long as there is a public resolution to the original posting I see no reason to require that all of this extraneous traffic be put back on the list; we would be overwhelmed with traffic and would thus face a new problem. Besides, what you or I choose to keep private should be our prerogative, no? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the original post. By the way, I have used another technique to cut down on list traffic. Eric has often suggested that we sit on our replies overnight, especially when they have been written in the heat of the moment. I now do this, and find that I don't bother to send over half of the replies I write when I re-visit them the next day. For various reasons ranging from seeing another almost identical post the next day to simply deciding that I didn't have that much to add to the conversation after all. Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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We encourage vigorous debate, right up to (but hopefully not including) the point where it gets out of hand. Ideas are floated, supported or critiqued, then perhaps incorporated into current or future products. Thanks, everyone, for keeping the list [relatively] civilized. Wayne N6KR On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Nick-WA5BDU wrote: I don't agree with that -- I think the moderator(s) keep attacks to a minimum, if that's what you mean by flames. Some people think a flame is a difference of opinion. I don't think that's the case -- this is a discussion group -- people discuss. Beyond that, I don't mind if people go off list, but I hope most universally interesting stuff stays on the list. 73- Nick, WA5BDU -- no flame intended. On 1/28/2013 6:40 AM, briana wrote: OK Bill, here is a group posting. Posting to the group here runs the risk of frequent and protracted flames. Thus, I often post to individuals instead. 73 de Brian/K3KO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Don's comments on ESSB and AM
It may interest folks Stateside but there is a growing amount of AM activity on 5MHz in the UK, I've had great reports using my K3 on AM. Most of the guys however are using ex military equipment and boat anchors. We do have more bandwidth over here though. Best regards, Tim Hague Skype m0afj.Tim Sent on my iPad On 29 Jan 2013, at 00:32, John Lawrence j123...@aol.com wrote: Don I agree with you both physiologically and technically about the ESSB and AM modes on the amateur radio bands. However, we have K3 radios that are configured to support all these modes. For that reason (IMHO), I believe it's important that they be properly supported and maintained by Elecraft or dropped as supported modes. There are at least two popular radios made by competitors that have attracted a portion of customers by offering ESSB as a mode. And there are groupies running AM especially on 160 meters, some with K3s. There are also broadcasters running ESSB in growing numbers with the FLEX and Yaseu 3000/5000 radios. I hear them often. Why? I don't get it but its real. The owner base of K3 users tend represent those who want to experienment and operate with all that's possible. The K3 can do that and play well in the company of the alternatives. 73, John, W1QS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Don's comments on ESSB and AM
...those who want studio quality SSB should obtain a commercial broadcasting license and use that instead... ...My opinion of AM on the ham bands is similar... Gee, guys, I enjoy AM on 75, 15 and 10m with my vintage equipment, and enjoy even more refurbishing the gear to be able to do that. If you're going to deny me that pleasure, then please deny digital operations in my CW portions of the bands. Ralph, VE7XF ps: I do, however, agree with you about ESSB, so I'm not 'fair and balanced' either :-) pps: When I started, SSB was quite rare on the ham bands. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
