Re: [Elecraft] how much to stretch copper wire

[Bill]

I should have mentioned in my earlier post that I use inverted vees 
(picture a Maypole with fan dipole legs scattered around it) - which 
means center supports holding up the feedline. That makes a light load 
on the wires and much less stretching as opposed to supporting full 
feedline weight with the antenna.


Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Microham Microkeyer II, RFI in mike with my K3

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

As I recall, I used pin 7 for the mic ground and pin 8 for the PTT
ground. In a brief test it worked ok into a dummy load. Is this not
correct?


That is correct although with the K3/K3S since the Elecraft mic RFI
change it should not matter (both pin 7 and pin 8 are connected to
the "ground" foil on the front panel circuit board).

Early K3 front panels included an RF choke in the mic *and* PTT returns
which made the "pin 1 problem" much worse.  With the RF choke removed
(bypassed) the issue is significantly reduced but there may still be a
problem if the overall station installation has any "RF on the coax."

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/12/2016 7:59 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

This week I wired rewired my MicroHAM Micro2R cables for K3S's.  As I
recall, I used pin 7 for the mic ground and pin 8 for the PTT ground. In a
brief test it worked ok into a dummy load. Is this not correct?

John KK9A


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Re: [Elecraft] Microham Microkeyer II, RFI in mike with my K3

[j...@kk9a.com]

This week I wired rewired my MicroHAM Micro2R cables for K3S's.  As I
recall, I used pin 7 for the mic ground and pin 8 for the PTT ground. In a
brief test it worked ok into a dummy load. Is this not correct?

John KK9A

Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de
Fri Feb 12 01:43:33 EST 2016

Good morning gents...

I have RFI in the mike since using the Microkeyer II from Mikroham.

Mainly on 20m and the lower bands when transmitting with about 700watts
and above.

My antenna is about 5meters above the shack on the roof of my house (2 el
Ultrabeam), but the effect also can be observed on the lower bands where
the vertical is about 12 meters away from the shack. ==> Direct RFI?

I am using the front mike jack on my K3 and Microkeyer

- I have put a capacitor across USB and connector ground in the Microkeyer
as recommended by Microham.

- All devices are grounded on common ground and same wall plug.

- I have extra grounded my PCs ground with USB ground as the resistance
was not good enough..its now 2 Ohms USB between USB and connector ground.
Also recommendation by Microham.

- Bought an extra shielded USB cable and put ferrite cords on.

- Mic line is shielded and ferrite cords in every cable and line

- Common mode chokes at the antenna feedpoint and also at the end of the
coax going into the shack.

- Pin 8 of the mike jack is not connected. See
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-quot-RF-Feedback-quot-and-microHAM-MK2R-or-microKEYER-II-td1080853.html

Microham is stating on their website that it has to do with the wiring of
the K3 mike lines in the frontpanel..

I am really lost and helpful for any ideas. Is there an alternative to
Microham?

Thinking about going back to my old USB interface, but integration of
Radio, Software and Ultrabeam is really nice

We had a similar issue on our clubstation and could cure it with
ferrites...on a YAESU rig.

Any hint is appreciated..and thanks for quick feedback as usual.

Already dropped a line to Elecraft support if they have some hints...

I am glad the effect does not show on CW :-)

Many thanks in advance.

Best 73s
Bernie
DL5RDP

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[Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite...set your clocks!;

[Tom]

Hello,
There is a new release of Win4K3Suite.  This release adds a number of usability 
enhancements for the K3, K3S and KX3 which include:
One button synchronization of the radio clock with the PC clock (!)
Addition of two presets in the ClubLog spotting wiondow allowing two sets of 
band filters e.g. day and night filters.
Assignment of the PC function keys F1 to F8 to radio macros.
Preview functions for the various messages in the radio terminal and many more!

Win4K3Suite is a comprehensive control program for the K3, K3S, and KX3 
supporting all options such as the KPA500, KAT500 P3 as well as LPPan.  It 
includes a built in serial port router that seemlessly allows connections of 
third party programs such as DXLabs, Log4OM, N1MM+, NAP3 as well as HRDLogbook 
and DM780.  In addition, it allows you to easily interface your own hardware 
(such as the Android)  and software through the built in router with no 
conflicts from other software packages.

Read the latest review here:
http://ve3wdm.blogspot.ca/2015/12/win4k3suite-added-to-shack.html

and see the product in action here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=win4k3suite

You can download a fully functional 30 day trial at va2fsq.com

73 Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphones

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I use a Heil PR 781 with great success.   The K3S TX EQ is set as follows;
 -16 dB @ 50 Hz, -12 dB @ 100 Hz, -6 dB @ 200 Hz,  and 2400 Hz @ +3 Db, 
3200 Hz @ +6 dB.


Working distance to the face of the mike is 4" to 5" on axis {one fist}  
so as not to enhance bottom end due to proximity effect, typical of 
dynamic mikes.The MIC SEL is set for FP.H with the mike gain at 40 
and the COMP at 15.The PR 781 is mounted on a small spring loaded 
desk boom that allows for easy placement for operation and moves easily 
out of the way when not needed.  I did make my own mike cable using some 
Belden 8771 which is 3 conductor shielded cable connecting between the 
XLR connector and the Foster connector.  The cable shield connects at 
the radio end only.


73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S, s/n 10163





On 2/11/2016 11:20 PM, grif80...@comcast.net wrote:

As a new owner of a K3S, I'm wondering what the mix of microphones being used 
is. What mikes provide the best audio?

Jiim, KC0TRK




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Re: [Elecraft] data modes (USB/LSB or DATA) using KIO3B sound card interface

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I have the K3S USB cable connected direct to one of the USB ports on the 
computer.  As to radio set-up, see page 33 of the manual for details.  I 
use DATA A mode for PSK & other data modes.   The software is usually 
FLDIGI, HRD/DM780 or WSJT-X which all work under Windows 10 successfully 
and do control all aspects of the radio. The DATA A mode is not the 
typical or normal USB/LSB mode in that it releases any TX EQ and CMP 
values used for SSB.


The computer Device Manager reports the radio under "Ports (COM & LPT)" 
as "USB Serial Port (COM 5)".  Depending on your computer, your port 
number may be different.


Audio, PTT and CAT control of the radio is handled by the single USB 
cable installation. None of the rear panel connections are used other 
than the USB port on the radio.


73
Bob, K4TAX



On 2/11/2016 3:34 PM, John Shadle wrote:

I looked in the K3S manual, and the instructions on setting up data modes
(p. 33) fail to mention the use of the KIO3B internal sound card. Are there
instructions (erratum?) available on how to set up data modes (using DATA
or USB/LSB) with this new feature?

Probably a simple answer to this question -- I'm just having trouble
finding it.

Thanks!
-john NE4U
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[Elecraft] K3 Configuration to KS3

[Gary Smith]

K3s is coming next week. I have my existing K3 set up the way I like 
to use it and have saved the configuration via the excellent utility. 

The K3s is coming completed, I will immediately put the 100W module 
and the ATU in place. I currently have a sub Rx in the K3, I will 
move it to the K3s once I have completed upgrading the low frequency 
modules and perform the needed updates on the Sub Rx. 

I haven't done any soldering to surface mount components and need to 
first practice on a junk component so I may not get those soldering 
changes done right away. Soon, but not till I feel 100% secure I will 
do a perfect job.

I'd like to start using the new rig ASAP but would like the setup to 
be like my K3 is, using as examples; my saved selections for RTTY & 
DSP.

- Will I encounter any unexpected problems if I load my K3 
configuration to the K3s and start operating?

- If the answer is no, will there be any negative issues to the 
normal operation of the K3s if I change the configuration of the K3s 
to that from my K3 which has the sub Rx, if I do so before adding the 
sub Rx to the K3s? Or will I need to put the Sub Rx in before 
importing my K3 configuration?

If there will be issues then I should run through all the various 
configuration settings and write each of them down. There's a lot to 
do if that's the case and it will be awhile before I get all those 
settings in a list.

73 & thanks,

Gary
KA1J

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[Elecraft] K3 LCSET not working for KAT3

[Paul Kirley]

My K3 1322 has an original KAT3 and firmware 5.38 2.86 1.25.  

Last night I tried to use the LCSET feature of the KAT3 item on the
Configuration menu.  I have used this successfully in the past, but no
luck this time.

I was able to make the L and C values show on the display, but rotating
the VFO knobs changed the values on the *previous* display.  I could
hear VFO A start to test relays as I rotated it to the right, and once
I found myself changing the date after rotating VFO B and then A while
the unchanged L and C values showed on the display.

Exiting from LCSET did not seem to go correctly either.  In order to
return the KAT3 to Auto, I had to fully exit and re-enter the
Configuration menu.

Has anyone else had LCSET problems, or am I the only one?

For the benefit of the reader, I quote the relevant manual wording,
part of the KAT3 item on the Config menu:

Mode LCSET allows manual adjustment of L/C settings (you must exit the
menu first). When in LCSET mode, tapping ATU TUNE shows the L and C
values; C is changed with VFO A, L is changed with VFO B, and ANT
toggles between Ca and Ct.



73, Paul W8TM

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphones

[Russ Tobolic]

I have K3 S/N 732 and use a $2 electret computer mic I bought at a yard sale.  
They had a white one that was only a $1 but I chose to go the more expensive 
route and buy the $2 black one to match the K3.  My settings are -16db  up to 
400 Hz, 0dB at 800-1600 Hz, and +16 dB at 2400 up and I get good audio reports. 
 After 8 years I did recently splurge and upgraded to the Koss SB-45 which 
works great. Russ, N3CO

  From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphones
   
I use a Heil PR 781 with great success.  The K3S TX EQ is set as follows;
  -16 dB @ 50 Hz, -12 dB @ 100 Hz, -6 dB @ 200 Hz,  and 2400 Hz @ +3 Db, 
3200 Hz @ +6 dB.

Working distance to the face of the mike is 4" to 5" on axis {one fist}  
so as not to enhance bottom end due to proximity effect, typical of 
dynamic mikes.    The MIC SEL is set for FP.H with the mike gain at 40 
and the COMP at 15.    The PR 781 is mounted on a small spring loaded 
desk boom that allows for easy placement for operation and moves easily 
out of the way when not needed.  I did make my own mike cable using some 
Belden 8771 which is 3 conductor shielded cable connecting between the 
XLR connector and the Foster connector.  The cable shield connects at 
the radio end only.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S, s/n 10163





On 2/11/2016 11:20 PM, grif80...@comcast.net wrote:
> As a new owner of a K3S, I'm wondering what the mix of microphones being used 
> is. What mikes provide the best audio?
>
> Jiim, KC0TRK
>


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KIO3B setup

[N2TK, Tony]

Got it working. W3FPR suggested downloading the FTID driver from the
Elecraft site. Everything is now working with the USB hookup - LP-Bridge,
K3, P3, KPA-500 (remote), SteppIR, DXBase, N1MM, AXETTY, MTTY.

Tnx for all the input.
N2TK, Tony 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N2TK,
Tony
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:04 PM
To: w3...@embarqmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KIO3B setup

Hi Don,
When I moved the USB cable to the front of the PC I get the following in
Device Manager.
two USB ports added - "Generic USB Hub" and "USB Composit Device"
A new category - "Other devices" with a question mark. Under that it shows
"FT232R USB UART" with a question mark.

Do not see anything added referencing a COM port under "Ports (COM & LPT)" 

Running Win 7 Pro on a HP Z220 workstation.
I also have a USB to 8-port RS232 hub.

N2TK, Tony

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 5:32 PM
To: N2TK, Tony ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KIO3B setup

Tony,

The USB "adapter" in the K3 must be defined as a USB COM port by your
computer.  It should be no different than adding a USB to serial adapter
(because that is what is inside the KIO3B).  I suspect that "USB Composite
Device" is what you might be looking for - is there a COM Port number
associated with it?

That kind of stuff is computer dependent.  If you did not obtain anything
reasonable, unplug the USB cable from the computer and try another USB port.
Wait until the computer indicates that the device is ready to use.  I know
that works on Windows 7 and Windows 10 (should work in Win8).
If you are using XP, that may get a bit 'dicey' and you may have to
explicitly load the FTDI driver.

Once you know the COM port that the computer has assigned, just tell
LP-Bridge to use that COM port.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/11/2016 4:39 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote:
> I tried installing the USB cable from the K3 to the PC. The only thing 
> that happens is that in Device Manager >Universal Serial Bus 
> Controllers it show two USB ports added - Generic USB Hub and USB 
> Composite Device. What do I do next?
> How do I get this tied into LP-Bridge as before as there is nothing 
> showing on LP-Bridge how to handle USB connections?
>
>


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[Elecraft] Possible problem with K3 at very low power

[Stewart Bryant]

Hi

I have noticed something strange with my K3 and am wondering whether it 
is a bug, a feature or operator error.


I am using the K3 to send WSPR at 0.2W, band hopping but on almost 
continuously on one band or another.


The driving program is WSTJ-X in WSPR2 mode with scheduling enabled.

Whilst it always works OK to start with and I get reports, I notice that 
after it has run for a few 10s of minutes I get no reports. It is as if 
there is no o/p from the K3.


If on the other hand I run at 2W and put a 10dB attenuator on the output 
socket, it all seems to work as expected for as long as I run it.


So is this a known problem with the K3, a broken K3 or have I made a 
mistake somewhere?


Thanks

Stewart/G3YSX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration to KS3

[Gary Smith]

The resounding answer has been NO, that I can't properly load the K3s 
with my K3 setup.

Thank you all for the off-list replies.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> K3s is coming next week. I have my existing K3 set up the way I like 
> to use it and have saved the configuration via the excellent utility. 
> 
> The K3s is coming completed, I will immediately put the 100W module 
> and the ATU in place. I currently have a sub Rx in the K3, I will 
> move it to the K3s once I have completed upgrading the low frequency 
> modules and perform the needed updates on the Sub Rx. 
> 
> I haven't done any soldering to surface mount components and need to 
> first practice on a junk component so I may not get those soldering 
> changes done right away. Soon, but not till I feel 100% secure I will 
> do a perfect job.
> 
> I'd like to start using the new rig ASAP but would like the setup to 
> be like my K3 is, using as examples; my saved selections for RTTY & 
> DSP.
> 
> - Will I encounter any unexpected problems if I load my K3 
> configuration to the K3s and start operating?
> 
> - If the answer is no, will there be any negative issues to the 
> normal operation of the K3s if I change the configuration of the K3s 
> to that from my K3 which has the sub Rx, if I do so before adding the 
> sub Rx to the K3s? Or will I need to put the Sub Rx in before 
> importing my K3 configuration?
> 
> If there will be issues then I should run through all the various 
> configuration settings and write each of them down. There's a lot to 
> do if that's the case and it will be awhile before I get all those 
> settings in a list.
> 
> 73 & thanks,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration to KS3

[Fred Jensen]

I think the Config Save function in the K3 Utility saves the serial 
number too, and only will load back into the same S/N.  A way to save 
only parameters that are not S/N dependent for transfer between radios 
would indeed be nice.


73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV
Washoe County DM09dn

On 2/12/2016 10:04 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

Gary Smith-2 wrote

- Will I encounter any unexpected problems if I load my K3
configuration to the K3s and start operating?


Probably...because Config Save will copy your K3 calibration constants into
the K3S.  You would at least need to go through all calibration steps again.
I doubt the K3 Utility will even allow you to copy K3 settings into the K3S
but I honestly don't know.  Hopefully someone from Elecraft will respond.

You do bring up a good point that it would be nice to have a Config Save
Lite that would affect only common menu choices for the K3/K3S but not
calibration constants and items unique to the K3.  I doubt Elecraft has
thought of this but it would be nice if possible.

If I were you I'd go through the K3 CONFIG settings, write everything down
and then manually duplicate into the K3S.  Also don't forget the MENU
settings.

73,  Bill  W4ZV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration to KS3

[Bill W4ZV]

Gary Smith-2 wrote
> - Will I encounter any unexpected problems if I load my K3 
> configuration to the K3s and start operating?

Probably...because Config Save will copy your K3 calibration constants into
the K3S.  You would at least need to go through all calibration steps again.  
I doubt the K3 Utility will even allow you to copy K3 settings into the K3S
but I honestly don't know.  Hopefully someone from Elecraft will respond.

You do bring up a good point that it would be nice to have a Config Save
Lite that would affect only common menu choices for the K3/K3S but not
calibration constants and items unique to the K3.  I doubt Elecraft has
thought of this but it would be nice if possible.

If I were you I'd go through the K3 CONFIG settings, write everything down
and then manually duplicate into the K3S.  Also don't forget the MENU
settings.

73,  Bill  W4ZV



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Re: [Elecraft] Possible problem with K3 at very low power

[Don Wilhelm]

Stewart,

I can't answer about any power problems with the K3 set to 0.2 watts.
But I do need to ask whether you are indicating 4 bars with the 5th bar 
flickering on the ALC meter.
Failure to drive the audio sufficiently to achieve that indication on 
the ALC meter is frequently the cause of poor power control when using 
data modes.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2016 10:52 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:

Hi

I have noticed something strange with my K3 and am wondering whether 
it is a bug, a feature or operator error.


I am using the K3 to send WSPR at 0.2W, band hopping but on almost 
continuously on one band or another.


The driving program is WSTJ-X in WSPR2 mode with scheduling enabled.

Whilst it always works OK to start with and I get reports, I notice 
that after it has run for a few 10s of minutes I get no reports. It is 
as if there is no o/p from the K3.


If on the other hand I run at 2W and put a 10dB attenuator on the 
output socket, it all seems to work as expected for as long as I run it.


So is this a known problem with the K3, a broken K3 or have I made a 
mistake somewhere?


Thanks

Stewart/G3YSX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration to KS3

[Ed Muns]

The K3 Utility reads the serial number and will only restore to the same radio.

73,
Ed W0YK
On Feb 12, 2016 14:04, Bill W4ZV  wrote:
>
> Gary Smith-2 wrote 
> > - Will I encounter any unexpected problems if I load my K3 
> > configuration to the K3s and start operating? 
>
> Probably...because Config Save will copy your K3 calibration constants into 
> the K3S.  You would at least need to go through all calibration steps again.  
> I doubt the K3 Utility will even allow you to copy K3 settings into the K3S 
> but I honestly don't know.  Hopefully someone from Elecraft will respond. 
>
> You do bring up a good point that it would be nice to have a Config Save 
> Lite that would affect only common menu choices for the K3/K3S but not 
> calibration constants and items unique to the K3.  I doubt Elecraft has 
> thought of this but it would be nice if possible. 
>
> If I were you I'd go through the K3 CONFIG settings, write everything down 
> and then manually duplicate into the K3S.  Also don't forget the MENU 
> settings. 
>
> 73,  Bill  W4ZV 
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] K2 Internal Battery

[Aaron Scott]

Just wondering. I operate my K2 from a 7 amp hour battery that is recharged
by a solar panel. Is there a way to set up a system like that using the
KBT2 internal battery from Elecraft?
The solar panel I am using is just a 2.5 watt 167 MAh amorphous solar panel.
Thank you

Aaron Scott
K5ATG
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Re: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite...set your clocks!;

[Clay Autery]

It might be...  but not until I DX All States first...  ;)

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On 2/12/2016 9:37 PM, Rose wrote:
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> Clay, if tracking US counties is of interest to you, HRD doesn't.
>
> 73
>
> K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

[N2TK, Tony]

Presently I use an external audio board for FSK. I run two versions of MMTTY
- one for the main receiver and one for the second receiver. 

 

In MMTTY > Misc tab > Source for the main receiver I select Left and in the
second MMTTY I select Right. 

 

Trying to setup the CODEC on the KIO3B. Is it stereo that it will allow me
to do what I am presently doing for two channels? 

When I select Microphone (4-USB Audio CODEC) for both MMTTY's, I get the
same signal on both MMTTY's. The second receiver has no impact.

 

Also with my external audio board the MMTTY setups show under MISC that the
Device Identifiers for RX are 3. For the CODEC it changes to 0. 

 

I did not get as far as transmitting yet using the Codec.

 

Any comments, please?

 

N2TK, Tony 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

[Cady, Fred]

Hi Tony,
You may have to, I did, go into the Microphone -> properties -> advanced to 
select a 2 channel microphone input.
Cheers, hope to hear you in the WPX.
73,
Fred KE7X

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From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ed Muns 

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:36 PM
To: 'N2TK, Tony'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

Yes, your MMTTY channel settings are fine.  The USB Audio CODEC is stereo.

Not sure what you mean by the 4th paragraph below about the Microphone.  If
you're talking about the Level adjustments in the Properties window for the
K3 USB Audio CODEC in the Windows Recording applet, the control is a single
slide that adjusts both channels together.  There is no Balance control or
independent level controls for each channel.  But, I don't understand what
you mean about the second receiver having no impact.  It's audio stream will
be decoded in the MMTTY window where you've seledted the right channel.

The Device Identifiers in MMTTY are just referring to the position of the
soundcard device in the list on the Soundcard tab of the MMTTY Options
windows.

Ed W0YK


Tony N2TK wrote:

Presently I use an external audio board for FSK. I run two versions of MMTTY
- one for the main receiver and one for the second receiver.



In MMTTY > Misc tab > Source for the main receiver I select Left and in the
second MMTTY I select Right.



Trying to setup the CODEC on the KIO3B. Is it stereo that it will allow me
to do what I am presently doing for two channels?

When I select Microphone (4-USB Audio CODEC) for both MMTTY's, I get the
same signal on both MMTTY's. The second receiver has no impact.



Also with my external audio board the MMTTY setups show under MISC that the
Device Identifiers for RX are 3. For the CODEC it changes to 0.



I did not get as far as transmitting yet using the Codec.



Any comments, please?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphones

[Bill]

Ah yes - a sow's ear into a silk purse can make the K3.

I have a woodworker nearby, built a perfect example of an RCA 44 - 
except the internals are a RadioShack electret element. Runs it through 
his EQ on the K3 and it sounds like the real deal. It is in use every 
day and you cannot really tell it from the looks of a real RCA.


Bill W2BLC
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[Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[grif80128]

Thanks for all the responses. I find them very interesting. The only thing that 
I'm missing is comments on the Elecraft MH2 Handset. I noticed that the CM500 
has two stereo plugs and the mike inputs are mono. I have a Yaesu desk mike but 
can't figure out the menu settings to use it's PTT switching. In the meantime, 
I'm having fun with the Heil K2 headset that I bought for use with my KX3. 
Having great fun with the new K3S! Jim KC0TRK 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[Walter Underwood]

For the KX3, you can build an adaptor or use any old stereo to mono splitter. 
That breaks out the tip and ring for you.

It is quite simple, but I explained it in a blog post regardless.

http://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/08/16/yamaha-cm500-headset-with-ptt-on-elecraft-kx3/
 


wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Feb 12, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> A Yaesu microphone will not work with the K3/K3S unless you construct an 
> adapter to change the microphone pinout.  There are no menu settings to 
> accomplish that feat, you must build an adapter to route the AF and PTT and 
> their Return paths to the appropriate pins on the K3/K3S microphone jack.
> 
> The CM500 has a stereo mic plug, but the tip and ring are connected together. 
>  That is no "never mind" for the K3, but for the KX3, it does cause a 
> problem.  Without building an adapter, you can turn off bias and turn MIC BTN 
> off, and it will work.  The bias is supplied from the residual voltage of the 
> digital voltage designed for the MIC BTN.  If you find that digital voltage 
> produces digital noise in your signal, the only cure is to build an adapter 
> to isolate the ring from that digital voltage and if you do that, you will 
> have to turn BIAS on for the CM500 to operate.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 2/12/2016 5:55 PM, grif80...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Thanks for all the responses. I find them very interesting. The only thing 
>> that I'm missing is comments on the Elecraft MH2 Handset. I noticed that the 
>> CM500 has two stereo plugs and the mike inputs are mono. I have a Yaesu desk 
>> mike but can't figure out the menu settings to use it's PTT switching. In 
>> the meantime, I'm having fun with the Heil K2 headset that I bought for use 
>> with my KX3. Having great fun with the new K3S! Jim KC0TRK
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphones

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Us OT's can remember the times when microphone elements, like optics, were
largely hand-crafted. As such, the good ones tended to be expensive and
often fragile. 

Nowadays, both optics and mic elements are manufactured using highly
automated processes that provide uniformly outstanding quality at very low
prices. 

The specs on the little RS electret mic element available for a few dollars
are something one would pay king's ransom for back then. 

I have used the RS elements in my own mics as well as replacements in
commercial applications with excellent results. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

I have a woodworker nearby, built a perfect example of an RCA 44 - except
the internals are a RadioShack electret element. Runs it through his EQ on
the K3 and it sounds like the real deal. It is in use every day and you
cannot really tell it from the looks of a real RCA.

Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY Hang time

[Bill Breeden]

Bill,

If you are using the CW memory keys M1-M4 to send RTTY, add a "pipe" 
character ( I ) at the end of the message.  The K3 will ignore the 
"pipe" character in CW mode, but will end the transmission immediately 
when it encounters it in RTTY (FSK D) mode.  The "pipe" character is the 
upper case character on the same key as the backslash character.  You 
can use the "Edit CW Memories..." function in the K3 Utility to add this 
character to your messages.


73,

Bill - NA5DX



I'm sure this has been brought up before but I've been told that there's a
hang time issue when I'm done transmitting RTTY.  Some folks use a keyer and
type IM.  There's got to be a way to go to the config Macro to include this
so I don't have to do it manually.  Can someone walk me through the process
of doing this once and for all?



Thanks,



Bill



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

[N2TK, Tony]

Fred,
That did it! I had not thought of going into the Mike> Properties > Advanced
to select 2 mikes.

Thanks for  the tip. Audio cables gone. 

N2TK, Tony

-Original Message-
From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:47 PM
To: 'N2TK, Tony' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net;
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

Hi Tony,
You may have to, I did, go into the Microphone -> properties -> advanced to
select a 2 channel microphone input.
Cheers, hope to hear you in the WPX.
73,
Fred KE7X

For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Ed Muns

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:36 PM
To: 'N2TK, Tony'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

Yes, your MMTTY channel settings are fine.  The USB Audio CODEC is stereo.

Not sure what you mean by the 4th paragraph below about the Microphone.  If
you're talking about the Level adjustments in the Properties window for the
K3 USB Audio CODEC in the Windows Recording applet, the control is a single
slide that adjusts both channels together.  There is no Balance control or
independent level controls for each channel.  But, I don't understand what
you mean about the second receiver having no impact.  It's audio stream will
be decoded in the MMTTY window where you've seledted the right channel.

The Device Identifiers in MMTTY are just referring to the position of the
soundcard device in the list on the Soundcard tab of the MMTTY Options
windows.

Ed W0YK


Tony N2TK wrote:

Presently I use an external audio board for FSK. I run two versions of MMTTY
- one for the main receiver and one for the second receiver.



In MMTTY > Misc tab > Source for the main receiver I select Left and in the
second MMTTY I select Right.



Trying to setup the CODEC on the KIO3B. Is it stereo that it will allow me
to do what I am presently doing for two channels?

When I select Microphone (4-USB Audio CODEC) for both MMTTY's, I get the
same signal on both MMTTY's. The second receiver has no impact.



Also with my external audio board the MMTTY setups show under MISC that the
Device Identifiers for RX are 3. For the CODEC it changes to 0.



I did not get as far as transmitting yet using the Codec.



Any comments, please?

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[Elecraft] RTTY No Audio into K3S

[Irwin Darack]

I am in the process of setting up a second K3S that I just built and having
difficulties setting up RTTY using MMTTY

Using the USB Codec, I can key the rig, receive Audio in and copy RTTY, but
no Audio from the computer to the radio.

I have the correct speaker in the computer selected (USB Audio Codec) . In
the Config menu I show KIO3B and set to nor.

What am I missing - Not sure what to try next?

Thanks,

Irwin KD3TB
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[Elecraft] KPA 500

[Ozzie]

It is no longer available...
Sold it!

73

Ozzie, w6icm


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

[Ed Muns]

Yes, your MMTTY channel settings are fine.  The USB Audio CODEC is stereo.  

Not sure what you mean by the 4th paragraph below about the Microphone.  If
you're talking about the Level adjustments in the Properties window for the
K3 USB Audio CODEC in the Windows Recording applet, the control is a single
slide that adjusts both channels together.  There is no Balance control or
independent level controls for each channel.  But, I don't understand what
you mean about the second receiver having no impact.  It's audio stream will
be decoded in the MMTTY window where you've seledted the right channel.

The Device Identifiers in MMTTY are just referring to the position of the
soundcard device in the list on the Soundcard tab of the MMTTY Options
windows.

Ed W0YK


Tony N2TK wrote:

Presently I use an external audio board for FSK. I run two versions of MMTTY
- one for the main receiver and one for the second receiver. 

 

In MMTTY > Misc tab > Source for the main receiver I select Left and in the
second MMTTY I select Right. 

 

Trying to setup the CODEC on the KIO3B. Is it stereo that it will allow me
to do what I am presently doing for two channels? 

When I select Microphone (4-USB Audio CODEC) for both MMTTY's, I get the
same signal on both MMTTY's. The second receiver has no impact.

 

Also with my external audio board the MMTTY setups show under MISC that the
Device Identifiers for RX are 3. For the CODEC it changes to 0. 

 

I did not get as far as transmitting yet using the Codec.

 

Any comments, please?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

[Richard Ferch]

Here is something to check:

Right-click the speaker icon in the Task Bar and select Recording 
devices. In the Sound window select the USB Audio Codec and click on 
Properties. In the Properties window click on the Advanced tab and check 
the Default Format. If it is set to 1 channel, ... change it to 2 
channel, ... .


Also, make sure that the USB Audio Codec is not selected as the Default 
Device or the Default Communications Device - these should both be set 
to the motherboard sound card in your PC.


You should see main RX audio in the left channel. If the subRX is off, 
you might see a bit of leakage from the left channel in the right 
channel, but if the subRX is on you should only see subRX audio. When 
you are transmitting, if your Monitor level is non-zero you should see 
the transmitted signal in both channels.


73,
Rich VE3KI


N2TK wrote:


Trying to setup the CODEC on the KIO3B. Is it stereo that it will allow me
to do what I am presently doing for two channels?

When I select Microphone (4-USB Audio CODEC) for both MMTTY's, I get the
same signal on both MMTTY's. The second receiver has no impact.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

[N2TK, Tony]

Rich,
Thanks for your input. I had to go to the Mike input with the Codec and
change to 2 channel. That took care of the issue.

73,
N2TK, Tony 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Richard Ferch
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KIO3B - FSK - stereo

Here is something to check:

Right-click the speaker icon in the Task Bar and select Recording devices.
In the Sound window select the USB Audio Codec and click on Properties. In
the Properties window click on the Advanced tab and check the Default
Format. If it is set to 1 channel, ... change it to 2 channel, ... .

Also, make sure that the USB Audio Codec is not selected as the Default
Device or the Default Communications Device - these should both be set to
the motherboard sound card in your PC.

You should see main RX audio in the left channel. If the subRX is off, you
might see a bit of leakage from the left channel in the right channel, but
if the subRX is on you should only see subRX audio. When you are
transmitting, if your Monitor level is non-zero you should see the
transmitted signal in both channels.

73,
Rich VE3KI


N2TK wrote:

> Trying to setup the CODEC on the KIO3B. Is it stereo that it will allow me
> to do what I am presently doing for two channels?
>
> When I select Microphone (4-USB Audio CODEC) for both MMTTY's, I get the
> same signal on both MMTTY's. The second receiver has no impact.

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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY No Audio into K3S

[Don Wilhelm]

Irwin,

The K3S USB codec is no different than any other USB soundcard. Those do 
have computer and OS dependencies that I cannot give specifics for.  In 
addition, how MMTTY interacts with your computer is another area that 
must be looked at.  You must tell MMTTY which soundcard to use.  Then in 
your Operating System, open the sound panel and set the sliders for 
output to about 2/3 of maximum.


In the K3S, set MIC SEL to LINE and adjust the input level (MIC Gain 
with LINE selected) to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with the 
5th bar flashing.


If you can achieve all that, you should be able to transmit RTTY with 
the K3S in AFSK A data submode.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2016 5:40 PM, Irwin Darack wrote:

I am in the process of setting up a second K3S that I just built and having
difficulties setting up RTTY using MMTTY

Using the USB Codec, I can key the rig, receive Audio in and copy RTTY, but
no Audio from the computer to the radio.

I have the correct speaker in the computer selected (USB Audio Codec) . In
the Config menu I show KIO3B and set to nor.

What am I missing - Not sure what to try next?

Thanks,

Irwin KD3TB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[Don Wilhelm]

Jim,

A Yaesu microphone will not work with the K3/K3S unless you construct an 
adapter to change the microphone pinout.  There are no menu settings to 
accomplish that feat, you must build an adapter to route the AF and PTT 
and their Return paths to the appropriate pins on the K3/K3S microphone 
jack.


The CM500 has a stereo mic plug, but the tip and ring are connected 
together.  That is no "never mind" for the K3, but for the KX3, it does 
cause a problem.  Without building an adapter, you can turn off bias and 
turn MIC BTN off, and it will work.  The bias is supplied from the 
residual voltage of the digital voltage designed for the MIC BTN.  If 
you find that digital voltage produces digital noise in your signal, the 
only cure is to build an adapter to isolate the ring from that digital 
voltage and if you do that, you will have to turn BIAS on for the CM500 
to operate.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/12/2016 5:55 PM, grif80...@comcast.net wrote:

Thanks for all the responses. I find them very interesting. The only thing that 
I'm missing is comments on the Elecraft MH2 Handset. I noticed that the CM500 
has two stereo plugs and the mike inputs are mono. I have a Yaesu desk mike but 
can't figure out the menu settings to use it's PTT switching. In the meantime, 
I'm having fun with the Heil K2 headset that I bought for use with my KX3. 
Having great fun with the new K3S! Jim KC0TRK



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[Bill Frantz]

I have a MH2 as well as a CM500. The MH2 works very well. I use 
it when my wife and I check into repeater nets so we both can 
pick it up and transmit. I use it as a push-to-talk switch when 
I'm using the CM500. (Some day i'll do the foot switch project. 
Too much time operating, too little building.)


On 2/12/16 at 2:55 PM, grif80...@comcast.net wrote:


The only thing that I'm missing is comments on the Elecraft MH2 Handset.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[Gary]

I did respond but perhaps not clearly enough. Although I like my Koss SB45 
headset, I use my MH2 daily and never had a complaint. TX EQ on the fph with 
bias is set up for the mh2  and numerous compliments received.
The rph with bias is set up for the SB45 including the TX EQ.
Config: Fph with bias saved to PF1 and I can easily switch between the two with 
no other adjustments are needed.
Simple, well for me at least.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: "grif80...@comcast.net" 
Sent: ‎13/‎02/‎2016 8:56 AM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

Thanks for all the responses. I find them very interesting. The only thing that 
I'm missing is comments on the Elecraft MH2 Handset. I noticed that the CM500 
has two stereo plugs and the mike inputs are mono. I have a Yaesu desk mike but 
can't figure out the menu settings to use it's PTT switching. In the meantime, 
I'm having fun with the Heil K2 headset that I bought for use with my KX3. 
Having great fun with the new K3S! Jim KC0TRK 
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[Elecraft] Lots of RTTY activity right now -- great time to try FSK-D mode on your K3/K3S/KX3

[Wayne Burdick]

FSK-D mode is perfect for casually dropping in on RTTY contests. 

To receive RTTY directly on the VFO B display:

   1. Tap DATA
   2. Rotate VFO B to select FSK-D
   3. Tap any switch to exit DATA setup
   4. Hold TEXT DEC to turn on text decode
   5. If you were using DISP to look at supply voltage, etc.,
  that will override text decode, so tap DISP to exit

Then just tune in RTTY signals and watch the decoded text scroll by.

To transmit, you can use either a keyer paddle attached directly to the radio, 
or a keyboard attached to a PX3 or P3, or use your PC keyboard from within K3 
Utility or KX3 Utility.

Happy hunting!

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY No Audio into K3S

[Irwin Darack]

Thanks  to everyone. Simple Operator error. I forgot to set the mic to Lin
in for TX Data. That solved it.

Irwin KD3TB

On Friday, February 12, 2016, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:

> You do have the speaker level at about 50% on the computer.  In the
> Windows 10 system I run,  I right click on the speaker symbol in the tray,
> then select Playback devices, then Speakers CODEC, the Properties then
> Levels.  The slider is sitting about mid scale or -10.2 dB or 50%.The
> radio is in Data A mode.   I set the MIC {actually Line level} to about
> 20.  This gets me 4 to 5 bars on the ALC scale.   Then set the PWR value
> for the number of watts you want out.
>
> Nothing is plugged in the rear panel audio connectors.  I only use the USB
> cable between the radio and computer.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> On 2/12/2016 4:40 PM, Irwin Darack wrote:
>
>> I am in the process of setting up a second K3S that I just built and
>> having
>> difficulties setting up RTTY using MMTTY
>>
>> Using the USB Codec, I can key the rig, receive Audio in and copy RTTY,
>> but
>> no Audio from the computer to the radio.
>>
>> I have the correct speaker in the computer selected (USB Audio Codec) . In
>> the Config menu I show KIO3B and set to nor.
>>
>> What am I missing - Not sure what to try next?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Irwin KD3TB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[Bill]

Rewire the mic plug - just remember it is - from then on - only to be 
used on your K3. It is a 10 minute job - very simple.


Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[Brian Denley]

Or buy a microphone adaptor on EBay.  You can find any type you need there.

Brian 
KB1VBF
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> On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Rewire the mic plug - just remember it is - from then on - only to be used on 
> your K3. It is a 10 minute job - very simple.
> 
> Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY Hang time

[Brian F Wruble]

I have found that a brief press of the "SUB" key ends the extra 4 seconds of 
carrier. 

de Brian W3BW

Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. 
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> On Feb 12, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Bill Breeden  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> If you are using the CW memory keys M1-M4 to send RTTY, add a "pipe" 
> character ( I ) at the end of the message.  The K3 will ignore the "pipe" 
> character in CW mode, but will end the transmission immediately when it 
> encounters it in RTTY (FSK D) mode.  The "pipe" character is the upper case 
> character on the same key as the backslash character.  You can use the "Edit 
> CW Memories..." function in the K3 Utility to add this character to your 
> messages.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bill - NA5DX
> 
> 
>> I'm sure this has been brought up before but I've been told that there's a
>> hang time issue when I'm done transmitting RTTY.  Some folks use a keyer and
>> type IM.  There's got to be a way to go to the config Macro to include this
>> so I don't have to do it manually.  Can someone walk me through the process
>> of doing this once and for all?
> 
>> Thanks,
> 
>> Bill
> 
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[Elecraft] KX3 FSK D 40m ??

[Stephen Shearer]

OK, Trying to use KX3/PX3 with FSK D for the RTTY contest.  I started 
with MCU 2.38 DSP 1.37 then went back to 2.37/1.33.


20m decodes.  40m does not work (REV is ON and can not be changed)  Both 
versions.  I don't remember ever seeing RTTY change like Side Band to 
USB/LSB ??


I guess I can try to go back further.
OR am I doing something wrong?  I have used RTTY in the past, OK.

73, steve WB3LGC
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Re: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite...set your clocks!;

[Rose]

Clay, if tracking US counties is of interest to you, HRD doesn't.

73

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Microphone

[Brian Hunt]

I'm not a frequent phone operator but thought I should at least have a mic so I 
bought an MH2 when I ordered my K3 years ago. I used it a few times but decided 
I didn't want to use a hand mic at the operating desk and put it away in a 
drawer. (I take it when I deploy to Field Day since some ops like to use it.)  

Instead I bought a very light weight $20 Best Buy computer/iPhone headset and 
use VOX all the time. The K3's TX EQ fixed most of its shortcomings. I get good 
audio reports. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

The only thing that I'm missing is comments on the Elecraft MH2 Handset. 
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Re: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite...set your clocks!;

[Clay Autery]

I would be interested to hear supported opinions as to which is better
and why between:

Win4K3Suite and Ham Radio Deluxe.

W4K3 is $50
HRD is now $100 for a new license and $50 a year for support (optional)

Go!

PS - I would have avoided this IF I could remember how to search the
archives... maybe.  (having one of THOSE days).

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On 2/12/2016 7:03 AM, Tom wrote:
> Hello,
> There is a new release of Win4K3Suite.  This release adds a number of 
> usability enhancements for the K3, K3S and KX3 which include:
> One button synchronization of the radio clock with the PC clock (!)
> Addition of two presets in the ClubLog spotting wiondow allowing two sets of 
> band filters e.g. day and night filters.
> Assignment of the PC function keys F1 to F8 to radio macros.
> Preview functions for the various messages in the radio terminal and many 
> more!
>
> Win4K3Suite is a comprehensive control program for the K3, K3S, and KX3 
> supporting all options such as the KPA500, KAT500 P3 as well as LPPan.  It 
> includes a built in serial port router that seemlessly allows connections of 
> third party programs such as DXLabs, Log4OM, N1MM+, NAP3 as well as 
> HRDLogbook and DM780.  In addition, it allows you to easily interface your 
> own hardware (such as the Android)  and software through the built in router 
> with no conflicts from other software packages.
>
> Read the latest review here:
> http://ve3wdm.blogspot.ca/2015/12/win4k3suite-added-to-shack.html
>
> and see the product in action here:
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=win4k3suite
>
> You can download a fully functional 30 day trial at va2fsq.com
>
> 73 Tom
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