Re: [Elecraft] K3S + W11 ... boot USB issue.
Turn off boot by USB in the BIOS? Rick nk7i > On Aug 4, 2024, at 8:18 AM, Terry _George wrote: > > I have a mini-pc running latest version of W11Pro - K3S connecting to it > via USB. > The PC will not boot with the radio USB cable plugged in; even if the > radio is off. > With the PC booted up, plug the radio USB in and all works normally. > > > Any advice appreciated - TIA > > 73 > > Terry > > G4AMT > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4D info
A keyboard is useful when entering messages into the message memories (REC | Mn) and macro strings into the macro setups (Fn | MACROS). It's optional - there is an on-screen keyboard that pops up on the K4 touch screen but it's awkward to use. I grab a USB keyboard and plug it into to the K4 when I want to do significant amounts of character entry. 73, /Rick N6XI On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 3:41 PM Dave Sublette wrote: > > > 2). I'm getting a K4D next week and I already have an external display to > use with it. Now my question is, what use would a mouse or keyboard be in > operating the radio? > > > Thanks, > > Dave, K4TO > -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4D compatibility
Not to mention that the updates to all HRD modules, are four years (PLUS!) behind the promised release date (now ONLY the logbook update is mentioned; THEN other modules, like K4 control perhaps someday...). I'm migrating to DXLabs, but (being polite) it's a 'process' (tedium YOWCH!) but Win4K4 has the 'prettiest' rig control app, so far (while waiting for VK4). No one suite, is complete, pretty or effective so it's still a hodge podge of display filling panels, more than the display can show at one time (even on a 4K monitor). There is so much needing to be seen, I'm adding another monitor, hoping that helps. If only the apps each spoke a common language, so mix and match wasn't so complicated (or impossible); but the variables in each station is complex. (THEN add remote ops from a multiplatform system...) It's no wonder I still prefer twisting knobs and mashing buttons, hi hi. Simple just ROCKS! 73, Rick nk7i PS I hope your talk on Tues will be recorded, I'll be in the middle of an airport run to get the grands for a visit and won't get to see it. On 7/6/2024 12:17 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 7/6/2024 11:55 AM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: Except HRD didn't/doesn't fully support the K3, for about the last 10-12 years (the last major firmware update). I liked HRD when it was Simon Brown's. although I never used it as a logger, because I had been using DXKeeper for years and loved it. Abandoned HRD when he got too busy to support it, and sold it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4D compatibility
Except HRD didn't/doesn't fully support the K3, for about the last 10-12 years (the last major firmware update). It works with the K4, partially. 73, Rick nk7i On 7/6/2024 11:41 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote: Anythin the K3 did, I meant to type. On Sat, Jul 6, 2024, 13:40 Jim Rhodes wrote: And for software that doesn't have a setting for a K4 you can use the K3 setting. It won't use any of the newer functions of the K4, but it will do anything the K4 did. On Sat, Jul 6, 2024, 13:15 Jim Brown wrote: On 7/6/2024 8:16 AM, Dave Sublette wrote: I want to know if the K4D will seamlessly plug into my setup, using the same cables I am now using with my K3s, P3 driving my KPA500 and KAT500? Yes. You will need to study the manual for menu settings, interface to logging software if you're using that, etc. It's a super-nice radio. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 ISSUE
G'morning,
That the amp does occasionally reach 500 out hints that it's not the
issue; but the rig driving the amp.
You didn't mention the rig, but watch what it is putting into the
KPA500. It could be as simple as an output calibration.
I would DEFINITELY verify that the TX audio into the rig, is correct
(high enough for full output, but not high enough for ANY ALC).
On the K3, that is 4 bars with the 5th flickering, a little. On the K4,
that is 8 bars (to the 5), again just flickering. On another brand,
bring up the audio until the output power (any level) doesn't climb any
more, then back it down to where the output JUST starts to fall ('close
enough' but ask another station to watch your signal for purity).
Windows updates tend to muck with your settings, verify after each major
update that they're what you wanted. Take notes.
Also check that your coax is valid (not failing) with connectors snug.
73,
Rick nk7i
On 7/2/2024 7:39 AM, Terry Myers wrote:
I think I have seen this discussed before, but I have not found it in the
archives. So point me in the right direction or if you have the cause and cure
please pass it along.
The KPA500 Ser. No. between 1K & 2K or about 10 years old. It has been in
daily use without a problem until this faithful day.
I have not been able to do a full check yet because I changed computers
sometime back and I no longer have a RS232 on the computer, so I ordered the
necessary part from Elecraft.
What I am seeing ( using FT8) is no output on 6M, on the HF bands the power
increases in steps 50W then 60W then 70W and on the next cycle it will start at
60W then 80W, 90W, etc. In a few cycles it might get up to 500W, but it varies
as to which HF band I'm on.
I'm thinking is it's microprocessor brain got scrambled with the RF. I can't
check until I get the cable, its on order. If you had this problem, was more
than a memory flash needed. Maybe a few parts replaced, etc? Did you discover
any preventive measures?
If so, let me hear from you.
73,Terry, KQ5U
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Re: [Elecraft] de W3TB and my KAT-500 question
Shutting down, as in power down? Or cutting output (bad SWR)? Check to make SURE that the K3 tuner is not online. You do not want to cascade tuners (might be why it needs service?). Check that you test into a dummy load, instead of the tuner/antenna. THAT is your baseline. If it still doesn't produce 100 watts (when set for 100), into the dummy load, run through the calibration program (into the dummy load). Please report your findings, to the list. 73, Rick nk7i On 5/6/2024 9:12 AM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote: I need to send my KAT-500 in for service, and I wrote to Elecraft Support for information. When I disconnected the KAT-500, here is some trouble that came up. And then I reconnected it up and the trouble went away -- apart from what I am getting it serviced for. When disconnected, the K3 itself won't put out more than 35 watts without shutting itself down. Then it does fine when the KAT-500 is back in service. What's the good wisdom on what I need to do so that I can just run the K3 at 100 watts while the tuner is away? Yes, I can still get enough power forward to drive the KAP-500 direct to antennas without the tuner. Thanks ahead of time for your good wisdom. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Lightning concerns: Was: K4 Remote: My QTH vs. a friend's, many miles to the north
We may not know the tune but the encore is sad and familiar: The cost to repair the damage is equal to the deductible on your homeowner's insurance policy. "Ask me how I know." /Rick N6XI On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 10:13 PM Jim Brown wrote: > On 5/5/2024 6:11 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote: > > There is no rhyme or reason why some devices are not damaged and other > are. > > Indeed there IS rhyme and reason, but some of us haven't learned the > tune! :) > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Lightning concerns: Was: K4 Remote: My QTH vs. a friend's, many miles to the north
Asked, answered (no, there isn't a more robust device); it's up to the station owner/designer to protect the station, not a manufacturer. Let's move on please. Rick nk7i On 5/5/2024 10:42 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: hello To finish with this topic, I was just wondering if a device that is intended for use in remote stations, always connected and in some cases with no one to disconnect during storms, could not have a better USB connector, for example If he tells me it can't be done, fine, my question has been answered and thank you very much. time to move on to other virtues of Elecraft 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W El dom, 5 may 2024 a las 10:12, Mike Fatchett W0MU () escribió: Lightning is like wildfires which burn some houses or land but not others. There is no rhyme or reason why some devices are not damaged and other are. I suspect that most items were damaged but not made inoperable. Couldn't the argument be made that the computer or USB hub should do more and at what cost? You are quite lucky that your entire shack was not destroyed. I don't believe Elecraft should be blamed here, nor do I believe they need to do anything. There is no preponderance of data that shows the Elecraft interface is more or less susceptible to this damage. My power supplied failed and produced an over voltage situation which damaged my K3. It it the fault of the PS maker or Elecraft? These situations are why many of us have Insurance that cover these events. This coverage could be a homeowners policy or policies similar to the ARRL insurance program. These coverage's may or may not be available to everyone however. W0MU On 5/4/2024 10:57 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: Thread subject changed to reflect the actual topic. It is the station owner that is responsible for lightning protection (or other environmental risks); not Elecraft or most any product vendor of any type. To require more, would cost more (for the hardware and for the liability risk that the company would have to endure). The area/s missed in the protective system design, can be demonstrated by a nearby or direct hit (induced voltages and current can be almost as damaging); as you already found (and it's EASY to miss an entry point, no blame intended). The ARRL has a good amount of simplified how-to in the book "Grounding and Bonding" but several readings may still be needed for understanding the content. There are other good resources (Motorola has one, so does the cell phone industry; each is excellent but best used to induce sleep, they are intense and technical and reference various applicable laws). It's not all about lightning but static dissipation as an energy source. That static source may also be dust, wind, snow, or rain (yes, water). Diverting that charge OUTSIDE the building (shack) to GROUND is the basic plan but it must also include EVERY entry point (cable TV, phone, DSL, antenna, rotor, control cables for antennas, mast, satellite dishes and tower). Using several ground rods as part of a system is common BUT they must all be bonded to each other AND to the one common safety ground of the building (US and other countries require this, by law). Use of water pipes is no longer code, in the US (because PEX and PVC are common, defeating ability to take to ground). From your description Jorge, it sounds like you did it correctly, but missed an entry point. Now you'll have to replace parts, sadly. Let's limit any more, to Elecraft specific topics. This one has wandered well afield of Elecraft. 73, Rick nk7i On 5/4/2024 9:21 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: Hi Dave I have a panel like yours, each antenna to a discharger, on a copper sheet. Nothing has happened with the coaxial and antenna switch I have several rods that make the ground and a copper bar behind the desk and all the equipment is connected to the ground The lighting came through the antenna of my internet link, then it went to the router, then to the computer where I have the kpa1500 connected with a USB cable My question about whether Elecraft could do more is whether there could be something better than the USB it currently has, which seems to me to be a simple USB connector, like that of any printer for example. So there is my question, if for such an expensive piece of equipment, there could be something of better quality, if not, I apologize, we will have to live with these things. See you in the bands!!! Have a good weekend! 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W El dom, 5 may 2024 a las 1:08, Dave (NK7Z) () escribió: Jorge, I can only go by what you said: "Last week I experienced a lightning strike" That sounds a lot like a direct discharge into the shack, so I am responding to your comment, if that is not correct, please help me understand what actually happened... Lightening is strange, it can take out one piece of equipment, and not touch another... It all depends on how your shack is grounded, and how it is bonded. When grounding
[Elecraft] Lightning concerns: Was: K4 Remote: My QTH vs. a friend's, many miles to the north
Thread subject changed to reflect the actual topic. It is the station owner that is responsible for lightning protection (or other environmental risks); not Elecraft or most any product vendor of any type. To require more, would cost more (for the hardware and for the liability risk that the company would have to endure). The area/s missed in the protective system design, can be demonstrated by a nearby or direct hit (induced voltages and current can be almost as damaging); as you already found (and it's EASY to miss an entry point, no blame intended). The ARRL has a good amount of simplified how-to in the book "Grounding and Bonding" but several readings may still be needed for understanding the content. There are other good resources (Motorola has one, so does the cell phone industry; each is excellent but best used to induce sleep, they are intense and technical and reference various applicable laws). It's not all about lightning but static dissipation as an energy source. That static source may also be dust, wind, snow, or rain (yes, water). Diverting that charge OUTSIDE the building (shack) to GROUND is the basic plan but it must also include EVERY entry point (cable TV, phone, DSL, antenna, rotor, control cables for antennas, mast, satellite dishes and tower). Using several ground rods as part of a system is common BUT they must all be bonded to each other AND to the one common safety ground of the building (US and other countries require this, by law). Use of water pipes is no longer code, in the US (because PEX and PVC are common, defeating ability to take to ground). From your description Jorge, it sounds like you did it correctly, but missed an entry point. Now you'll have to replace parts, sadly. Let's limit any more, to Elecraft specific topics. This one has wandered well afield of Elecraft. 73, Rick nk7i On 5/4/2024 9:21 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: Hi Dave I have a panel like yours, each antenna to a discharger, on a copper sheet. Nothing has happened with the coaxial and antenna switch I have several rods that make the ground and a copper bar behind the desk and all the equipment is connected to the ground The lighting came through the antenna of my internet link, then it went to the router, then to the computer where I have the kpa1500 connected with a USB cable My question about whether Elecraft could do more is whether there could be something better than the USB it currently has, which seems to me to be a simple USB connector, like that of any printer for example. So there is my question, if for such an expensive piece of equipment, there could be something of better quality, if not, I apologize, we will have to live with these things. See you in the bands!!! Have a good weekend! 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W El dom, 5 may 2024 a las 1:08, Dave (NK7Z) () escribió: Jorge, I can only go by what you said: "Last week I experienced a lightning strike" That sounds a lot like a direct discharge into the shack, so I am responding to your comment, if that is not correct, please help me understand what actually happened... Lightening is strange, it can take out one piece of equipment, and not touch another... It all depends on how your shack is grounded, and how it is bonded. When grounding commercial equipment, even the path the wire takes is important... Curves, straight line runs, etc... What sort of ground system are you using, and what sort of lightening protection did you have in place at the time of the lightening event? Take a look at: https://www.nk7z.net/building-a-coax-entry-panel/ That is my entry panel. I am slowly building a ground ring around the house... Why? Because only I can build a system to help reduce the chances of lightening taking out something in my environment. It is after all my home, and my environment, so I can not, and do not, hold Elecraft responsible for things they can not control. Elecraft, can not be responsible for my grounding, and bonding practices. Respectfully, in your original question you implied that Elecraft should have done more to make the KPA1500 withstand an as yet, correctly defined lightening event. Again, respectfully, if you believe Elecraft failed in some way, then you should say what, and how they failed... Not imply they should have done more... That is unfair. With respect to the weekend-- I hope to see you in the 7QP contest! I will be on Sunday, but I fear the Sun will not assist much... Take care my friend... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 5/4/24 17:42, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: hi Dave I don't know what to tell you, I imagine that a direct discharge into the shack would have burned everything. I had 6 USB cables connected to the laptop, they burned the USB of a box of GHE that costs $160 and the USB of the KPA15
Re: [Elecraft] Using the k3 with WITHSJTX?
No content, please use plain text when sending to THIS list. (no formatting or HTML) Thank you, Rick nk7i On 5/4/2024 10:59 AM, Ray wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote: Station design
* Elecraft has no control in how one sets up (or uses) a station. * A remote station needs all of the same protection enjoyed by any other station; they are the same except one is used remotely. On the last premise; set up the remote station as if it were any other station; RFI and noise mitigation, generator back up power, UPS, lightning protection*; GROUNDING AND BONDING, heating and (!) cooling (!); again just like any station should appear and operate (even if it's stuffed into a closet). The power supply system should provide for continuous power to the network too. It's MORE important if the station is intended for remote ops. The control operator (local or remote) is required to have FULL control over the station operations; plan for worst case events that would affect that; loss of network is a key consideration for remote use. [I have a lot of UPS, one per mesh node included, for the approx one minute until the generator switches in upon power failure and one UPS per computer power source to keep the services I provide, online. Simply because Starlink and the network takes over ten minutes to re-establish with a power loss. That's a long key down time!] It is up to the USER (remote in particular) to operate the station (remote or local) in a way that does not cause harm (on the air or through ab/use). This means small things like making sure the transmitter is not locked on (CW key down, FSK transmit) in the event of a network fail so it cannot be unkeyed (use of VOX or macros and memory use for sending non-phone message strings) That's nothing new. A remote station, is just another station with the same needs and planning as any other station; except the goal is to use it remotely and the ability to control it at all times during use. 73, Rick nk7i * Lightning protection how-to or discussion is beyond the scope of this group, but EVERY STATION should have a system in place WITH grounding and bonding of every item in the shack, includes every wire that enters the building (cable TV, phone, power, DSL) or that sticks into the air for radio (tower/mast, sat dishes, antennas). Even if the station location rarely has lightning. Properly done, the protection system would also help static buildup, from rain, wind, snow, dust or any other cause. Static discharge cause is more than lightning and can also damage (or destroy) equipment. Even then, a direct hit may not save the station but it will show what was NOT properly taken care of, what was missed in the protection system. In some cases, it can even lower the noise floor (MAY, not will). On 5/4/2024 9:36 AM, G4GNX wrote: I don’t think you can expect Elecraft to take care of any safety issues, especially with lightning. You could install a remote camera to keep an eye on things, along with smoke detectors and some form of extinguisher, such as those now available for 3D printers. To protect from lightning, you’d need to install antenna switches which can be controlled either automatically or remotely. You also need to install lightning arrestors. Of course all of this won’t prevent damage if you get a direct strike. To internally protect a K4 or any other Elecraft product is just downright impossible. “Acts of God” are just what they are and mostly out of our control. 73, Alan - G4GNX South Coast UK Elecraft K4D / KPA500 / KAT500 / IC-9700 On 4 May 2024, at 17:10, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: Wayne What worries me is having a very expensive device like a K4 connected in a remote place, to the antennas, power and internet How to avoid damage to the equipment? Last week I experienced a lightning strike and the I/O module of my KPA1500 was damaged, what has Elecraft thought to ensure that the equipment is not damaged? With the remote K3, what was connected to the network was the remoterig, with the K4 what is connected to the network is a device worth more than 6000 dollars So, since the I/O module does not have sufficient protections, what is Elecraft's recommendation to protect them? thanks, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 Failure
It sounds like blown FETs. It may be time to ship it to CA where any/all upgrades can be done as well as repair. They're a little backed up, so it may take a few weeks. Parts and shop time too of course. Call the techs to discuss it and get an RSA and ask if they want you to pull the transformer to save shipping weight/cost. You MUST have the RSA (write it on the box, a cover letter inside and with any email discussion once it's issued). The tech indicated that damage to the FETs may be cumulative over time, so it may not be THIS event. But it won't hurt to go through the entire antenna and feed system to be sure. Or you can dive in to repair it; if you feel qualified. Sorry, been there too. Rick nk7i On 4/23/2024 6:52 PM, Dick Bingham wrote: Greeting to everyone I have read the KPA500 operator manual in hopes of solving my issue and have found nothing that solves/fixes the problem. This amplifier has been a workhorse for many years and today after the KAT500 antenna tuner searched/found a 'match' for a new antenna, I selected OPER on the KPA500, and applied drive power to the amplifier. Immediately, the amplifier displayed a momentary overload indicated by the top row of LEDs (power indicator ones) all flashing ON after which, the amp FAULTED and shut down. The RF drive level was around 20-watts and should have provided about 300-watts output at the time this occurred. I tapped the OPER/STBY button and tried to activate the amplifier and found there is no response to incoming RF drive. I removed/reapplied 'mains' power, pressed the 'EDIT' and ON keys simultaneously to reset everything and that did not correct the problem. The power supply voltage is in spec so no issue there. With the OPER light GREEN and slowly increasing the RF drive level to the amp, there is a point where an internal relay 'click' can be heard, the 50-watt LED on the top row of LEDs turns red and the FAULT light turns red. I could not detect any sign of smoke (nose/eyes) so have not opened the case to look for burned parts. Before I open the 'case' and look for obvious problems, any observations or suggestions received here will be appreciated. Kinda looks like blown amp power FETs. Dick - w7wkr __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub RX Not Working
Check the menu setting? Not Inst? 73, Rick nk7i On 4/17/2024 8:39 PM, Robie Elms wrote: Dave, Mark sure you do not have the AUX antenna selected for your sub receiver. Push and Hold the RX ANT button and change it from Main to AUX or vice versa. This selection is band sensitive. Robie AJ4F On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:07 PM H D Barr wrote: My K3 (non-S) is equipped with the second rx, which I rarely use. After infrequent use (got a K4) the sub rx seems to have stopped functioning; no signal or noise can be heard from it. When the "Sub" button is tapped, "No Sub" appears in the display. The main rx and tx functions seem normal. Before I open up the K3 to see if any cables have come loose, I am searching for more obvious (or easier to check) possible reasons, including operator error. Any ideas are welcome. Thanks and 73. Dave, K2YG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rule...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Can't find release notes for K4 version R35
Fn | Updates | Release Notes will show you what you're looking for. R35 updated the front display code. 73, Rick nk7i On 4/10/2024 10:42 AM, Bob wrote: I installed version R35 today, but didn't see any release notes as part of the update, or on the elecraft website itself. Any idea what has changed? 73, Bob, WB4SON __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Problem
Using the utility, erase the settings for 20M and reteach it? Once trained, leave it in MAN mode for daily use. 73, Rick nk7i On 4/9/2024 8:30 AM, Mike Murray wrote: My KAT500 will no longer tune in AUTO mode on 20M and does not change to prior stored settings in MAN mode. All other bands work as expected in both modes. Any suggestions on where I should look first? Mike - W0AG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Weird K-3 Power Behavior
Correct. 73, Rick nk7i On 4/6/2024 12:03 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: Hmmm ... I thought that the ALC started AT the 5th bar and the first 4 bars were sort of a VU-meter. Hence Don's occasional advice, "4 full bars and the 5th occasionally flickering." I've been known to get things wrong in the past however. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4D purchase
Port forwarding is required only on the server side. In addition to this elecraft@mailman.qth.net reflector, there has been lots of conversation on the elecraft...@groups.io reflector. There is also a k4-rem...@groups.io reflector but it hasn't been very active lately. I am anticipating a separate doc from Elecraft on the subject of remote control when the code is released for production use, maybe as soon as open Beta testing. It will consolidate a lot of wisdom and detail that has so far been part of the "oral tradition" (which these days is more of a "typed tradition.") ;-) As with most Elecraft products, you can expect incremental releases with the most important features provided initially and growing over time. (This tends to frustrate those who want a perfect product to emergefully-grownfrom the forehead of Zeus. Me, I'm happy to get a basic product at first and watch it grow through periodic, downloadable releases.) Right now, any K4 on the planet can control any other K4 provided both are connected to decent Internet and have an appropriate firmware update loaded. In field testing, I find it quite adequate now for high-rate contesting, DXing, and general QSOs. Considering ease of use, performance, reliability, complexity, flexibility, and community, I'll give it four and a half stars with promotion to five stars coming when VK4 (app-to-K4) and "K4/0" (physical front panel-to-K4) are available. Ease of use alone qualifies it for the Remote Control Honor Roll. 73, /Rick N6XI On 3/25/24 6:13 AM, David Christ wrote: Is the port forwarding needed on the client side or the server side or both? This could be a game killer. The retirement community I live in is resistant to allowing port forwarding. This would be the client side. I have full control at the server side/ How do I keep track of this? Is there a listwerv whereit is discussed? David K0LUM On Mar 24, 2024, at 11:05 PM, Rick Tavan wrote: ...and remote control is working well K4-to-K4 in limited field test, coming soon to open Beta test. A computer app "VK4" is coming after that. It's the simplest remote control architecture in the industry - fill in remote IP address and password on the client side, 1 or 2 port forwards and specify a password on the server side. It's a game changer. A little more complicated if the server-side ISP uses CGNAT but manageable by anyone who has access to a teenage gamer. ;-) /Rick N6XI On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:03 PM Jim Brown wrote: On 3/24/2024 4:15 PM, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: Comments from owners of k4D I've had mine for 18-24 months. Like it a lot. Compared to K3S, better filters, sound of the radio improved, thanks to what chips were available 16 years later. Only issue is RF feedback at rear panel 3.5mm jacks. I suspect it's because the style of switched jacks the industry has used since at least the '50s are no longer available, so they couldn't bond the shield at the point of entry and had to add circuitry to do the switching. And some features have yet to be implemented, like remote control. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to radio...@mchsi.com -- Rick Tavan, Saratoga & Truckee, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4D purchase
...and remote control is working well K4-to-K4 in limited field test, coming soon to open Beta test. A computer app "VK4" is coming after that. It's the simplest remote control architecture in the industry - fill in remote IP address and password on the client side, 1 or 2 port forwards and specify a password on the server side. It's a game changer. A little more complicated if the server-side ISP uses CGNAT but manageable by anyone who has access to a teenage gamer. ;-) /Rick N6XI On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:03 PM Jim Brown wrote: > On 3/24/2024 4:15 PM, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > > >> Comments from owners of k4D > > I've had mine for 18-24 months. Like it a lot. Compared to K3S, better > filters, sound of the radio improved, thanks to what chips were > available 16 years later. > > Only issue is RF feedback at rear panel 3.5mm jacks. I suspect it's > because the style of switched jacks the industry has used since at least > the '50s are no longer available, so they couldn't bond the shield at > the point of entry and had to add circuitry to do the switching. > > And some features have yet to be implemented, like remote control. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Utility Question
K3 Utility | Configuration | Edit Power On banner should do the trick. It exists in both Mac and Windows versions. /Rick N6XI On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 1:12 PM Doug Hensley wrote: > Helping a friend with his new K3s. He wants to change the callsign > displayed by the K3s "Welcome Message". I booted the firmware utility on > my Mac but I do not see any function selection for that. Mine was changed > by the factory when they updated it for me. > > Also don't see it in the docs so far. Anyone have any info on this? Do > you change just the callsign or can you edit the whole message? > > > > 73, > > Doug W5JV > > > > > > > > > > > Visit https://www.qrz.com/db/W5JV for some great vacuum tube finds. > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Considering purchase of K4D
The highlights are:
1)
* A MUCH quieter receiver (the BEST CW rig I've used over the past
almost 50 years);
* Better overall performance;
* It is a living growing product (some things, still being fleshed out
or developed)
* Ability to manage via one real serial port, 2 USB com ports or
unlimited via IP _all at the same time_.
* It will only get better over time; the K3 is a 'dead end' line
(that still works VERY well) it has reached it's limit;
* You can get parts and add ons for the K4;
* It has ability to be run by it's internal or external macros (HUGE
flexibility option);
* Native 1GHz capable network, in place;
* Simpler overall interfacing for specific station needs (antennas,
transverters, switches);
* Simpler remote operations, including K4-K4 without a computer and
VK4 on laptops, tablets and phones (shortly).
Noise reduction and noise blanking, is one of the works in progress
(remote operations topped 'the list'). While adequate for me now (I'm
rural but with some power lines, electric fences and other rural
'things'); it could be made better. The quieter receiver does help make
weaker signals heard, most of the time even with the noises of farm and
timber lands.
2)
* Because Rob Sherwood (and he has clearly stated) only saw one K4
with the earlier firmware versions and it is MUCH improved now (and
still in progress). If you read the rest of Rob, it's not about all
of the numbers, but a compilation of MANY factors (mostly UI like
menu and knob access).
* An updated evaluation can be done IF someone is willing to loan (or
buy) a K4 for Rob for testing (takes xxx weeks, he's thorough).
* One does not judge the performance of any living line, on the first
model (i.e. the Mustang, Corvette or Camaro); things get better
(it's no Pinto or Edsel).
* There is one likely near you; seek it out and ask to see it play (or
watch some videos online).
Is the K4 perfect? Not yet but my very well dressed K3/P3 sits in a
storage box (next to other bygone gear).
Is now the right time to buy? Yes, there is a sale until the end of the
month (or buy used but be QUICK about it once posted, seconds count) and
the prices won't get much better.
To install my K4, I pulled the K3/P3 off the desk, reconnected
everything to the K4 and was up and running in minutes (excluding some
software changes of course, mostly port settings and audio levels).
I'm no shill and I have no issue in being direct. I liked the K4 so
much that I bought a second for chair two or as backup should the need
ever arise. (Station growth never ends.)
Most of the default menus items were 'ok' and over the next couple weeks
were adjusted to my operating preferences (DXing) and local conditions.
K3 to K4 transition is not a steep learning curve; but they are two
different rigs, there IS a curve. (Kenwood to Elecraft, slightly
steeper. "Other" brands, steeper again but MUCH simpler.)
73,
Rick nk7i
On 3/13/2024 12:56 PM, n...@earthlink.net wrote:
I am considering the purchase of a K4D, upgrading from K3+ ("+" means I have
installed all available upgrades except the USB I/O board, but it is not
quite a K3s), but I have a few questions and pardon me if these have been
asked and answered before, as they probably have:
1. Other than diversity receive, what additional benefits do I get with
the 'D' version (for $1000)?
2. Why is the K4D down so low on the Sherwood receiver list and does it
really make a difference in a somewhat noise, semi-urban environment?
Thanks in advance,
Allen R. Brier N5XZ
1515 Windloch Lane
Richmond, TX 77406
713-705-4801
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Re: [Elecraft] Piggy back KPA 1500 onto KPA 100
Think it through, it is an ANTENNA tuner (matching circuit). You disable all of them along the path (BYPASS), EXCEPT at the antenna connection. It is presumptive 50 ohm to 50 ohm resistive at each stage, no tuner required, except for the antenna. 73, Rick nk7i > On Mar 11, 2024, at 12:28 PM, Karl W Hubbard via Elecraft > wrote: > > > This question may have been answered in the past. > I have a KX3 and a KPA100, both with ATUs. Can I power up my TX via addition > of a KPA1500, assuming I upgrade my antenna (Buckmaster 300watt OCFD 8 > bander) to the 3000 watt version ? If feasible without risk of blowing up > anything, and assuming the KPA 1500 also has a built-in autotuner, at what > stage should auto tuner control be established? > > > Thanks, and 73’s > Karl AF5LQ > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Tip: Front Panel Illumination Tip
This one seems to be quiet. /Rick N6XI On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:56 PM Jim Brown wrote: > On 3/6/2024 8:39 AM, Rick Tavan wrote: > > It runs on USB power > > (not supplied) and works a treat! > > Looks nice. One caution, though -- USB-powered devices sometimes have > DC-DC converters that can be noisy. W6GJB alerted me to this several > years ago, when he chased noise down to USB-powered speakers! > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Tip: Front Panel Illumination Tip
Radio front panels are busy - lots of knobs and buttons with small labels that seem to shrink as we age. Some of the colors are low-contrast. If room lighting isn't right, they're unreadable, even invisible. Here is a small, LED, clip-on lamp that solved the problem for me: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RNQVZMD?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details=1 It's surprisingly inexpensive, has controllable color and brightness, a stiff gooseneck (nicely stable), and a very strong clamp. I've clipped it to the low shelf on which my rigs sit and positioned the light to illuminate front panels without glare into my eyes. It runs on USB power (not supplied) and works a treat! 73, /Rick N6XI -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub-RX Deaf on One Band
Did you check the filter settings (or filter) on the sub? 73, Rick nk7i On 1/24/2024 3:35 PM, Michael Carter via Elecraft wrote: Hi Pete, If you've confirmed that the RX ANT is NOT selected on the 80 meter band for the sub-RX, I would check the CONFIG entry for the KRX3 to be sure that it's not selecting the AUX RF input. It might have been selected inadvertently if you used BSET to change the sub-RX settings. 73, Mike, K8CN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K4 Remote Sneak Peek
My sneak peek article on K4 Remote in the January issue of CWops' newsletter *Solid Copy* is up now. See https://cwops.org/newsletters/ and scroll down a bit to Solid Copy No. 168. If you're a CW operator and not yet a member of CWops, you might want to consider joining! 73, /Rick N6XI -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] User's Dilemma
Flex isn’t cheap either but the wait for non-warranty repair tells Elecrafters waiting; hold my beer. A month minimum, often longer. 73, Rick NK7I > On Dec 15, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: > > That said, does anyone think it's acceptable to have even a 4-week hold > between arrival of the item there and its entering the repair process? > Elecraft equipment isn't cheap, and I believe that the current situation > needs to be addressed, either in Watsonville or otherwise. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Lives and Breathes!
As (other) Rick says, port forwarding varies between routers; but the two key points to research for your router are: 1) Assign (reserve) the K4 MAC(s) to specific IP addresses, so the K4(s) is/are ALWAYS at the same LAN IP address (reboot the K4). 2) Port forward 9204 to the K4 (only one can be shared with the outside, if more than one K4 on the LAN) IP address. You may want to make sure that a password is made within the K4 (instead of anyone) so you have some access control. If you have (like me) Starlink or other CGNAT using ISP, then it gets more complicated and probably isn't a topic to be discussed on this list. Across my Starlink LAN (I have two LAN), it's working beautifully and should be available 'real soon now' for public beta... have some patience yet while the field test team runs it through it's paces and some spit and polish are applied. 73, Rick nk7i On 12/15/2023 10:25 AM, Rick Tavan wrote: Simplicity is the keynote to K4 Remote. If you have an external IP address, you only have to fill in a few fields to get going. You do have to set up a "port forward" rule in your router in order to make YOUR K4 accessible to remote control ops. All the routers have different web pages to do this but they're pretty simple to navigate. Mostly. ;-) If all you want to do is control remote K4's, you only have to type in their address and, if established, password. It really couldn't be easier. /Rick N6XI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Lives and Breathes!
Simplicity is the keynote to K4 Remote. If you have an external IP address, you only have to fill in a few fields to get going. You do have to set up a "port forward" rule in your router in order to make YOUR K4 accessible to remote control ops. All the routers have different web pages to do this but they're pretty simple to navigate. Mostly. ;-) If all you want to do is control remote K4's, you only have to type in their address and, if established, password. It really couldn't be easier. /Rick N6XI On 12/15/23 10:08 AM, Lou Laderman wrote: I’m not particularly networking savvy, in fact I’m at the opposite end of networking familiarity. I’ve contacted Wayne a few times to ask that the K4 remote solution (whether K4/K4-0 or VK4 software) follow the KISS principle and make connectivity simple enough for someone like me. I’m hoping I won’t have to try to figure out tunneling, setting up a VPN or any of the other alphabet soup solutions that quickly turn into blah blah blah for me. 73, Lou W0FK Lou Laderman Sent from my mobile device On Dec 15, 2023, at 11:57 AM, Rick Tavan wrote: Thanks, Adrian. I didn't realize how ubiquitous that technique is becoming. I guess I live a sheltered life here in the mountains and, of course, in Silicon Valley. I hope your solutions don't add unacceptable latency. /Rick N6XI On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:46 AM KJ7SOY wrote: Rick: The problem is not dynamic IP addresses changing. That’s easy to fix. It’s CG-NAT (Carrier Grade Network Address Translation), which doesn’t give you an external world addressable IP address. You can’t assign a DDNS name because you don’t HAVE an IP address to map to. Many carriers (T-Mobile is a perfect example) are now using this approach, which blocks customers from getting to their devices/services from outside their home networks. The only solution is to use a commercial tunneling VPN or a free service like ngrok, which creates a permanent tunnel to external servers which DO have addressable IP addresses. 73, Adrian On Dec 15, 2023, at 9:20 AM, Rick Tavan wrote: Hi, Dave. I don't think it will be much of an issue. With many ISPs, external IP addresses change rarely. If your ISP is changing addresses frequently, consider using a DDNS server like no-ip.com. I have tested K4 Remote using a DDNS string in lieu of a hard-coded WAN address and it works fine. /Rick N6XI On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:44 AM Dave wrote: Very interesting Rick, thanks for sharing the info. One issue that seems to be increasingly common is that some (many?) ISPs no longer offer a fixed IP address, which K4 Remote currently needs. The system many ISPs are changing to is carrier grade network address translation, it first surfaced in mobile networks, but is spreading to home broadband too as ISPs run out of IPv4 addresses, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT A way around this is with the use of a central server, which isn't usually free. Remote TX works in this way but uses a Raspberry Pi. I note they support the K3.https://www.remotetx.net/ 73 Dave G4AON __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered tokj7...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered tollader...@icloud.com -- Rick Tavan, Saratoga & Truckee, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Lives and Breathes!
Thanks, Adrian. I didn't realize how ubiquitous that technique is becoming. I guess I live a sheltered life here in the mountains and, of course, in Silicon Valley. I hope your solutions don't add unacceptable latency. /Rick N6XI On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 9:46 AM KJ7SOY wrote: > Rick: > > The problem is not dynamic IP addresses changing. That’s easy to fix. It’s > CG-NAT (Carrier Grade Network Address Translation), which doesn’t give you > an external world addressable IP address. You can’t assign a DDNS name > because you don’t HAVE an IP address to map to. Many carriers (T-Mobile is > a perfect example) are now using this approach, which blocks customers from > getting to their devices/services from outside their home networks. > > The only solution is to use a commercial tunneling VPN or a free service > like ngrok, which creates a permanent tunnel to external servers which DO > have addressable IP addresses. > > 73, Adrian > > > > On Dec 15, 2023, at 9:20 AM, Rick Tavan wrote: > > > > Hi, Dave. I don't think it will be much of an issue. With many ISPs, > > external IP addresses change rarely. If your ISP is changing addresses > > frequently, consider using a DDNS server like no-ip.com. I have tested > K4 > > Remote using a DDNS string in lieu of a hard-coded WAN address and it > works > > fine. > > > > /Rick N6XI > > > >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:44 AM Dave wrote: > >> > >> Very interesting Rick, thanks for sharing the info. > >> > >> One issue that seems to be increasingly common is that some (many?) > ISPs no > >> longer offer a fixed IP address, which K4 Remote currently needs. The > >> system many ISPs are changing to is carrier grade network address > >> translation, it first surfaced in mobile networks, but is spreading to > home > >> broadband too as ISPs run out of IPv4 addresses, see: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT > >> > >> A way around this is with the use of a central server, which isn't > usually > >> free. Remote TX works in this way but uses a Raspberry Pi. I note they > >> support the K3. https://www.remotetx.net/ > >> > >> 73 Dave G4AON > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Rick Tavan > > Truckee and Saratoga, CA > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to kj7...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Lives and Breathes!
Hi, Dave. I don't think it will be much of an issue. With many ISPs, external IP addresses change rarely. If your ISP is changing addresses frequently, consider using a DDNS server like no-ip.com. I have tested K4 Remote using a DDNS string in lieu of a hard-coded WAN address and it works fine. /Rick N6XI On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:44 AM Dave wrote: > Very interesting Rick, thanks for sharing the info. > > One issue that seems to be increasingly common is that some (many?) ISPs no > longer offer a fixed IP address, which K4 Remote currently needs. The > system many ISPs are changing to is carrier grade network address > translation, it first surfaced in mobile networks, but is spreading to home > broadband too as ISPs run out of IPv4 addresses, see: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT > > A way around this is with the use of a central server, which isn't usually > free. Remote TX works in this way but uses a Raspberry Pi. I note they > support the K3. https://www.remotetx.net/ > > 73 Dave G4AON > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K4 Remote Lives and Breathes!
Many ops have been anxiously awaiting the arrival of K4 Remote. Although it's not yet available for general release, several field testers have been exercising it. (K4-to-K4, not K4/0 or PC-based VK4 although those are in progress inside Elecraft.) I've made over a thousand remote contacts with it, mainly CW contesting but also DXing, ragchews, SSB and FT8, and can say this: *THE HARD STUFF IS DONE!* I have K4 radios at a mountain QTH and a valley QTH and either one can connect to and use the other. It feels almost like local, better than K3 Remote with microBit RRCs. Some features and "corner cases" remain and Elecraft programmers are hard at work on them. Some highlights: - Cabling changes required: *ZERO* - leave both stations in their local configuration. You do need a way to turn on a remote K4. I'm using N6TV "K-ON" dongles and remote power switches. I think you can also do it from a connected KPA1500 and KPA1500 Remote. No need to leave anything powered on when not in use. - It's *dead simple* to connect - just specify an IP address on the client (control) K4 and set up one port forward on the LAN router at the server (remote radio) site. Passwords will prevent unwanted intrusion. (Compare to over 100 parameters that have to be set up between pairs of RRCs - and they only work one-way!) - Connection takes about a second. - It's bi-directional - any K4 anywhere can control any other K4 anywhere. No hardware asymmetry. - CW sidetone and Voice monitor are local, so unaffected by latency. - Use the keyer inside the client K4 or an external keyer. - Plays nicely with loggers like N1MM. They see the local K4 and don't realize it's controlling a remote radio. - You can update the firmware in both radios from the K4 at either site. - ... and more I've been an avid remote op for a decade now and this is better than I expected, like K4 itself well worth the wait. Hang in there, folks, it's really coming. Really. 73, /Rick N6XI -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX2 question
For such documents that I (might) need when not at the computer, I use Dropbox. That way it's in several places at once, including on my phone (which is always with me). It's free, up to small storage limits, adequate for that task. If I need to share something, I send the link (which if a large file, doesn't clog my LAN, once it's in the cloud). 73, Rick nk7i On 12/4/2023 1:54 PM, Chris wrote: Thanks, Walter K6WRU: That was indeed the document I was mis-remembering as one page... But it describes how to get INTO the CW announce mode, but does not tell how to EXIT the mode. I think I did a device reset to go back to turn CW announce OFF. I also note that I appear to need a newer version of the manual that came with the radio. I downloaded the e-version, but my computer does not fit in my day-pack! 73, Chris K0PF On 12/4/2023 9:13 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: This all-text document has a physical description and documents the audio-CW feedback. https://ftp.elecraft.com/KX2/Mod Notes Alerts/KX2 CW UI, rev A3.pdf <https://ftp.elecraft.com/KX2/Mod Notes Alerts/KX2 CW UI, rev A3.pdf> wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Dec 4, 2023, at 8:03 AM, Chris wrote: I saw a one-page note on this but I cannot find it in my records. If I recall it is a mode of some sort that causes the CW Identifier, for handicapped hams, I think. I did a reset to clear it. Sorry for being vague, it has been a couple months, but maybe support can point you to that one-pager. It should be in the fw release notes, really... 73, Chris, K0PF On 12/1/2023 9:59 AM, Bud wrote: Folks … I recently invoked the latest firmware update on my KX2 (s/n 1031). Upon beginning use of the KX2 after the firmware update two changes to the operating configuration were noticed. They are: 1) Upon pressing any of the front panel push button switches, a CW identifier takes place. How do I delete this from happening? 2) The “display” push button no longer displays the several functions it once did. What do I need to do to bring back the display functions when I push the “display” button? Thanks for any help in this matter … Bud, NY1Z … __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wd5...@frii.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Power oscillation problem (KPA500+KAT500)
I'm glad you found the cause and a fix. I'll add that, in my experience, 40M is always the most problematic band for causing RFI problems. In a vehicle or home, it seems that a LOT of 'stuff' is sensitive to 40M. 160M comes in second for that status. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/21/2023 2:55 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: "I should be able to fix the problem with better decoupling and/or choking of the breakout box connections." Problem fixed by adding a 0.01 disc ceramic caps on each of the 4 RCA keyline jacks on the breakout box. I should have included them when I built it. Interesting problem though and all sorts of nasty possible causes gave way to a very simple one. Why didn't I see this problem earlier? My log shows I have only been on 40 m twice in the last two years. A year ago I had a new roof mounted heat pump installed. The antenna runs near ducting that was changed and the installers broke one antenna support that I have not repaired. My attic is a hostile work environment and best avoided if possible. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Power oscillation problem (KPA500+KAT500)
Andy, You've answered your own question. If it doesn't happen when the entire rig system transmits into a dummy load, but has problems while connected to an antenna; you know where to look. In that search, high on the list of suspects (right up there with failure of any antenna elements) is damage from tiny livestock (mice, rats, birds that may have gotten into the attic or bugs like mud wasps); chewed wires, cables and insulators. However with your extended time using a 40M antenna on 80M even at 250 watts, it's likely that some part of the antenna system (feed, chokes, transformers, wires etc) has broken down (high voltages are possible causes). Something changed, you know where to look now. Be ready to replace the antenna with the means to prevent another similar failure. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/20/2023 7:16 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: This is really strange.The only thing I can think of is some kind of feedback to the TS-590s ALC circuitry caused by common mode current on the feedline. An easy test would be to connect a common mode choke at the output of the KAT500 and see if the problem goes away. Does the antenna have some kind of choke or balun at the feedpoint? If not, probably it should, just to help reduce local RFI. Why did this suddenly happen? I have no idea. Changes in grounding or any conductors attached to the system can affect the path that the common mode current takes. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 21/11/2023 1:20, Andy Durbin wrote: I have a new power oscillation problem that is manifest only on 40 m when using an attic dipole. Basic station configuration is Kenwood TS-590S, KAT500, KPA500. As drive power is slowly increased and output power rises above about 100 W the power output falls to zero then slowly rises again. If drive power is increased the frequency of the oscillation increases but the peak output power does not change. At onset the oscillation frequency is 3.5 Hz. While KPA500 output power is cycling TS-590S exciter power remains constant, KPA500 remains keyed, and neither LP-100A, KPA500, nor KAT500 indicate any SWR transient. KPA500 and KAT500 do not fault. This 40 m attic dipole has been in use for several years and this problem is new. I have set any arbitrary 250 W limit for this antenna and have, in the past, experienced no significant problems running that power level. What could cause KPA500 to stop power output and then resume? The KPA500 will output 500 W into a dummy load on the same frequency with no oscillation so that seems to rule out a KPA500 hardware issue. Next suspect would be RFI but what feedback mechanism would cause KPA500 to drop to low or zero power while drive remains constant and key line remains active. Why would I have RFI now if I didn't before? Next suspect would seem to be some sort of breakdown in the antenna system and that breakdown heals when power is removed. But how could any breakdown pull power to zero and not fault KPA500 or KAT500? Next step will be visual inspection of the attic antenna. I'm posting in case anyone has seen a similar problem and has any suggestions as to the cause. Early draft notes and some scope traces here - https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rxidnm4bkv9pissfyln00/Power-Oscillation-40-m-draft-1.pdf?rlkey=446vn8bjoe2bv2xn4un86zpd2=0 Thanks and 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500?
Eugene, The KAT500 will work with almost any radio made in the last 40 years (or somewhat older), presuming the rig has I/O data available. If it doesn't read the band data from the radio ( on it's ACC port), there are still plenty of ways to allow it to do what it needs to do. The utility is one feature that allows finer control or management. But the KAT500 is serial port only for control purposes. It doesn't have an ethernet or wifi system. The following presumes that you have a serial (or other) port on the radio for it's control and this answer may be longer than you expect. In the longer run (larger picture as your station develops), you'll want more than control of your KAT500. You'll want to be able to log, manage mode changes, band/freq changes (rig control), turn your rotor, switch antenna ports on the rig or KAT500 and myriad assorted other necessary items. Not all of the pieces are IP control but require USB or serial ports, like the KAT500. You'll find that it's all much simpler to dedicate a computer (from Raspberry Pi, Arduino up to a full fledged top line gaming system) to manage the station tasks, hardware and software; even if you're sitting there able to mash buttons. Simple just ROCKS and lowers the ... moments when things get busy or distracted and the brain makes mistakes (it protects you, a little). I did that (ALL station elements managed) and it runs quite easily. Then I ran the station equally as well, by operating the computer that runs the station, remotely. Two factors present a challenge, an adequate audio path for phone/cw, and latency (the time it takes to get from the radio to your ears, ad vice versa, no matter the path). (Remote can be across the room or anywhere with internet.) I chose and use TeamViewer for computer control and Skype for audio. (Like most hams, I'm cheap and those apps are free and available on many platforms which gives a LOT of options from phone, tablet or another computer.) Plus your contact log entries are (correctly) from the station, not where you happen to be. I've run my stations while traveling much of NA and HI while on road trips and it's still fun and a great way to keep in touch with the local gang. Depending on the OS of your choice, there are many options to choose from. Windows has FAR more options for the moment, the rig control app of your choice, a good logging program (integrated suites do much of these), KAT500 utility (check/verify readings and override choices if more than one antenna), amp control if you have one (KPA500 or KPA1500 utility apps), rotor and antenna management (PSTrotator with the SteppIR functions) and if you want, an IP power switch for shutting it all down and/or rebooting. (A remote power on for the K3 or K4, when off, they are OFF.) If you are a knob turner ham or a mouse clicker (or both), running the station is much easier when you integrate all of the aspects on one screen. It allows quicker band changes (QSY and everything follows along) and a wealth of information on the screen, as well as the hardware displays. You watch ONE place (the display), less movement required (except your eyes). Wanna make a couple quick contacts from work during your lunch break or while visiting family for the holidays? Now you know how. Only have a tiny closet for the actual station hardware but no where to put the operating chair? Now you can operate it remotely (be careful about heat removal in this case). For now, you're working on the KAT500 with the utility; expand beyond that over time and integrate everything. That means look at what you want the station to accomplish for you. Wise choices now makes it simpler later as you integrate more. And the answer to your question is yes, you'll want something to manage the KAT500 app, all the time. But it must be via it's serial port. Think bigger, go beyond. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/20/2023 5:24 PM, W2HX wrote: Ok, I've done some homework and have a good understanding of the KAT500 and the KAT Utility which seems to have all the functions I am looking for. Next question. If I want to control the KAT500 over ethernet, my understanding is I need to use the Remote server and client applications. However, it seems the remote client application seems to not have the full functionality of the KAT Utility program. Does anyone know if the full functionality of the Utility program can be available in a remote situation? Or is there where I veer into the note-red territory? 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500?
I use KAT500 Utility remotely by running it on a small, inexpensive server computer at the remote station and displaying and controlling it via Chrome Remote Desktop. (There are several equivalent remote desktop programs.) Note that you can not run KAT500 Utility and KAT500 Remote Server at the same time because they both use the one serial port into the KAT500 device. This arrangement has been completely satisfactory for me because the settings I make with Utility endure for many months, only occasionally changing in response to antenna changes. In fact, since I am there at the remote site when changing antennas, I rarely need to operate Utility remotely. But I certainly can. KAT500 Remote is the control point in use when actually operating on the air with KAT500. 73, /Rick N6XI On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 5:25 PM W2HX wrote: > Ok, I've done some homework and have a good understanding of the KAT500 > and the KAT Utility which seems to have all the functions I am looking for. > > Next question. If I want to control the KAT500 over ethernet, my > understanding is I need to use the Remote server and client applications. > However, it seems the remote client application seems to not have the full > functionality of the KAT Utility program. Does anyone know if the full > functionality of the Utility program can be available in a remote > situation? Or is there where I veer into the note-red territory? > > > 73 Eugene W2HX > Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of W2HX > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2023 5:20 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500? > > Hello there. I am not currently an owner of any elecraft product, but I am > seriously considering a KAT500 for use with older analog radios. I hope > this is the right place to ask because the elecraft website page for > subscribing to this list (https://elecraft.com/pages/community) only > mentions "KX1/K1/K2/K3/KX3/P3/KPA500" but here goes. > > I am interested in the native capabilities of the remote control software > I looked on the elecraft website and only found this manual which only > covers installation of the software: > https://ftp.elecraft.com/KAT500/Remote%20Software/KAT500-Remote.pdf > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500?
Most of what you ask is performed by KAT500 Utility, not KAT500 Remote. Both are free downloads but most of what you're interested in seeing is accessible only when actually connected to a KAT500. Only one of those programs can connect at a time, via a COM port. KAT500 Utility is a local program. I run it on a shack computer at the remote site and access it remotely via a remote desktop program. KAT500 Remote can operate either locally or client/server. I run it C/S with the server side on that same shack computer. See specific answers below; all the answers are Yes: On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 2:21 PM W2HX wrote: > Hello there. I am not currently an owner of any elecraft product, but I am > seriously considering a KAT500 for use with older analog radios. I hope > this is the right place to ask because the elecraft website page for > subscribing to this list (https://elecraft.com/pages/community) only > mentions "KX1/K1/K2/K3/KX3/P3/KPA500" but here goes. > > I am interested in the native capabilities of the remote control software > I looked on the elecraft website and only found this manual which only > covers installation of the software: > https://ftp.elecraft.com/KAT500/Remote%20Software/KAT500-Remote.pdf > > But I am interested in what screens are behind the buttons such as Power, > Tune, Antenna, Mode, et. Al. But I cannot find any documentation beyond > this installation manual. Does it exist? Or does someone know of a youtube > video I can watch that goes through this program? I understand that many > folks are using node-red for control of the KAT, but right now I'm looking > to see the functions of basic application. > > Generally, I am wondering if the software supports: > > 1. Setting the SWR threshold -- below which, the tuner will consider a > tuning solution to be "done" > Yes - See Configuration tab, SWR Thresholds > 2. Once the tuning solution is found, the manual changing the L's and > C's to fine tune the match as much as possible and then store to memory > Yes - See Operate tab, Capacitance and Inductance adjusters. > 3. Settings for which antenna should be used for which bands > Yes - See Configuration tab, Antennas > 4. Can an antenna be set for use with multiple bands (like OCF dipole)? > Or only one band per antenna? > Yes, any antenna port can be assigned to any bands 160-6 via individual check boxes or All. See Configuration tab, Antennas. 73, /Rick N6XI > > Thanks very much! > > 73 Eugene W2HX > Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] For sale, KPA1500
KPA1500, for pickup in NJ. $5,050. See details on my qth.com ad. Posted Saturday 11/11/23 at 2015Z Please do not reply here or use my hotmail address, as emails get lost among all the postings and I do not see them. rickstea...@icloud.com 73 Rick K2XT repeat, use icloud, not hotmail email. Tnx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Duty Cycle of FT8 #Elecraft
Hi Jim, I've experienced a 10% drop in output as the finals warm up, which doesn't ultimately make a large difference, but can be compensated if desired (a percentage of 1 dB). It can run legal limit on all bands; but into a SteppIR, because of the transformer/balun in play not being efficient at 6M, limit the output to no more than 1 KW (ask me how I know). I use the default speeds, but I'm also uncomfortable with it going above 65C, so I step in at that point and boost the fans. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/10/2023 11:34 AM, Jim Brown wrote: I've been told by someone who knows that 1) it is normal for MOSFet devices to lose efficiency as they heat; 2) the KPA1500 can run WSJT modes at rated power except on 6M, where it's best to not run much more than 1 kW for long TX sessions, like meteor scatter. It's an issue un-related to the the MOSFets; and 3) to use default fan settings and let the amp adjust upward as needed. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Duty Cycle of FT8 #Elecraft
The duty cycle of FTx is 43.3% and may be less than RTTY or PSK depending on the transmit:receive ratio; or long winded SSB. I've run the KPA1500 at or near legal limit into a resonant antenna on Ftx, for hours at a time without issues. It will warm the shack and I suggest headphones, the fan can make some noise. The lower output that you run, the less efficient the amp is, which is total power used (presented as heat) to output power. Sometimes (30M), that's the cost (the K3/4 won't produce the US legal limit of 200 watts, without the amp). 73, Rick nk7i On 11/10/2023 11:14 AM, Victor Rosenthal wrote: I don't have a kpa1500, but I recall someone from Elecraft saying that since the efficiency decreases when power is reduced, backing off the power does not reduce the heat load. Victor 4X6GP On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 16:28 Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: I started operating FT8 while my KPA-1500amp was out for repair. Now it's back and raising a question: Operating with just my K-3, set at 100 watts, I would see 100 watts indicated on its meter through the whole 15-second FT8 transmission.. When I drive my amp, it only needs 30 watts for full CW power (on 24 MHz), but the amp indicates 1200 watts input for the whole FT8 transmit cycle. I'm wondering if I should back off to protect the amp,considering the duty cycle is so high - on the other hand, the temperature reading profile of the amp seems to be pretty much the same as on CW. 73, Pete N4ZR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] FS - KPA1500 pickup in NJ
KPA1500 available in central NJ. This will be a pickup only. About a one hour drive from the NYC, Phila or NNJ areas, or 1.5 hrs from JFK area of LI. The amp is as mint as could possibly be. Probably transmit time no more than 15 min. total. Ser # 598. Must be a pickup but I will demo it for you. $5,250. Call 609-752-6705 and leave msg (telemarketing filter). Email rickstea...@icloud.com. email to the list gets lost among the postings. Rick K2XT73 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] For sale - KPA1500 in NJ
KPA1500 available in central NJ. This will be a pickup only. About a one hour drive from the NYC, Phila or NNJ areas, or 1.5 hrs from JFK area of LI. The amp is as mint as could possibly be. Probably transmit time no more than 15 min. total. Ser # high 500's. Must be a pickup but I will demo it for you. $5500. Use k...@arrl.net or 609-752-6705. I have convincing pics to easily send you. Rick K2XT73 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KH1 delivery date projection please
Wayne said that he expects within 1-2 weeks. Without sounding insulting, sometimes he's right about that. https://youtu.be/YtV24qha2Uc 73, Rick nk7i On 10/27/2023 4:44 PM, Pete Meier via Elecraft wrote: When is the KH1 reasonably expected to start shipping? No wild guesses please. Pete __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3
The answer is in the results of simple questions: Who, if any, has had their KAT3 fail and for what cause? What was actual (r,x,c) antenna load, that was being attempted? I suspect the failures are low, it's smart enough to quit trying if the match is too extreme. The same components (mostly) are used in the KAT500 (just larger sizes) which also has a low failure rate. Instead of guessing, answers of actual failures would provide data points. 73, Rick nk7i On 10/13/2023 11:56 AM, David Gilbert wrote: I am reasonably certain that the KAT3 can handle 100 watts for a lengthy period to time (enough for normal FT8 purposes) if the SWR it is trying to match is low enough. But the original query didn't say how high an SWR he was trying to match. The KAT3 is certainly capable of matching some pretty high SWRs (well over 10:1), but the question is how long can it push 100 watts into an SWR that it could otherwise normally handle at lower SWR. Another factor is the phase of the impedance the KAT3 is trying to match. A high SWR could present either a capacitive load or an inductive load to the KAT3. In one case it could result in high currents within the KAT3 ... in another it could mean high internal voltages. So the real question is ... can the KAT3 survive for X amount of time when pushing 100 watts into a high SWR at most any phase? I can pretty much guarantee that nobody knows the answer to that question. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the KAT3 could handle 100 watts into a high SWR for periods of time that were comfortable for FT8 if the phase of the load impedance resulted in higher currents. I'm not so confident about that if the phase gave high voltages. Heating takes a bit of time to be destructive ... voltage breakdowns and arc overs happen very quickly. 73, Dave AB7E On 10/13/2023 8:03 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: I have frequently used my K3 at 100 watts with FT8 and RTTY. I haven’t had anything which would indicate that components are getting overstressed (e.g. bad smells). Now, I don’t think I have given a full 100 watts when something isn’t connected in the antenna system, although the KAT3 does “match” an open antenna line. Since in that situation, it clicks for a long time before coming to a “match”, I tend to notice that there is a problem before applying full power. 73 Bill AE6JV On Oct 12, 2023, at 23:42, David Gilbert wrote: I thought I was clear, but apparently not. It is 100% duty cycle for 13 seconds, and zero for 2 + 15 seconds. "Duty cycle" is all a function of what period of time you choose to integrate over. Lots of components if heavily over stressed can go south in 13 seconds. Whether that is the case with the KAT3 is unspecified as far as I can tell. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KI03B equipped K3 with N1MM and MMTTY
Guessing, but the audio setting would be found in MMTTY not N1MM. Connect CODEC there and you should be good for AFSK. GL, Rick nk7i On 9/22/2023 4:53 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: For the first time in maybe 6 years I thought I'd spend a little time in the CQWW RTTY contest this weekend. I selected the contest, and to my surprise N1MM and MMTY came up and I was receiving RTTY. Alas, when I tried to transmit in AFSK, it appears that no audio is making it to the K-3. I think that this is probably because since the last time I did RTTY, I installed a KIO3B in my K-3, I'm guessing that MM wants to see the AFSK audio passed through the KIO3B's sound card, but I don't know what has to be done to get this to happen. Anyone out there with advice? I have gone into the N1MM manual but failed to find anything. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer
Satin, crinkle black... Or flat two tone green a la Heathkit. Rick nk7i On 9/16/2023 8:00 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: How long before you painted it flat black? :-) Mike / KK5F -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Sep 15, 2023 7:33 PM I was 8 years old. My dad had bought me a Radio Shack Science Fair 8-Note Electronic Organ kit for Christmas, along with a soldering iron. That night I built the kit, finishing at something like 11 PM, which was unheard of. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Very late to the party - computer rig control and sound card modes for K3
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make SURE that you do not allow OS sounds at ALL, since you're using the internal sound card. There are MANY that already send beeps, tones, phone audio and more on the bands because they didn't get a sound card for the radio/s. (They're CHEAP, just get one that is known to work.) Then they wonder why they don't get contacts with the digital mode they're using. 73, Rick nk7i On 8/9/2023 4:35 AM, Paul Barlow wrote: Dear Elecrafters, Less than a month ago I asked a question about computer rig control, computer logging and sound interfaces for soundcard modes. Thanks to the people who took the time to reply and gave me helpful advice. All is now connected in the EI5KI shack, I bought a refurbed Windows 10 laptop and set it up to talk my K3 using the USB to RS232 interface I'd had since I bought it with the K3. I now have communication between the rig and the logging software (Log4OM). I've also installed WSJT-X and I'm using FT8 and FT4 with some success. In the end I settled for a cable to break out the combined microphone/ headphone jack on the Laptop and two cables from that to the line in/line out on the K3. I did try a USB sound card (an Asus Xonar U5), but it won't talk to the laptop - this seems to be a known problem with Windows 10. So, once again, thanks for the advice and encouragement. 73, Paul EI5KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Grounding, Lightning & Attic Antennas
Heh, try Hardee board (concrete) or aluminum siding, or stucco (wire based to hold it together). Or clay brick roofing. BUT that also contains wifi within the structure for network security hi hi. If the antenna choice is HOA based (yuck, ick, ew) perhaps laying the invisible wire ON the roof will work (better) for you (install on a week day while everyone is at work/school). The other issues include potent RFI in the building (smoke detectors are great receivers, particularly on 40M; GFCI devices are second best). 73, Rick nk7i On 7/29/2023 9:46 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote: A bigger concern for attic antennas is the use of "radiation shield" plywood on the roof of houses build in the last 10 years or so that turn the attic into a Faraday cage. The single most annoying reason cell phones don't work inside your houses anymore. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Steve L Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 10:42 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Grounding, Lightning & Attic Antennas Jim & Co., I’m reading all the recent posts on the Elecraft reflector concerning lightning protection… After a recent move, I am working on the design and construction of attic antennas for both HF and V/UHF. The topic of grounding and/or providing lightning protection for this installation has baffled me given no outside presence of any antenna components. While not so concerned about a direct strike (perhaps naively?) I am concerned about induced currents and resulting equipment damage - where clearly disconnection may be the best protection. Might anyone have any good references for reading/study on grounding recommendations, how to’s, best practices, etc. for attic antennas? Thanks a bunch, 73, Steve AA8AF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to b...@wjschmidt.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A dumb question about lightning
We're in accord on static. Like lightning, give it someplace to go OUTSIDE, not via the shack/structure. Not just for noise but the voltages can be astoundingly high with enough amperage to cause harm. [A local puts his feeds in a glass jar then is amused at the glow of discharge, contained. But that is FAR from the only wire exposed. These are complex topics that few can translate well to low dollars (hams) and better understanding. It would have been fun to draw on that lunch crowd discussion. The only true axiom is that if you don't have enough shunting, lightning will be happy to show you what you missed. (Antenna didn't fall over? It's not big enough!). 73 Bill, Rick nk7i On 7/28/2023 3:36 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote: I worked at Honeywell defense systems in the early 80's and I had two guys (Ph.D's from MIT) working in the office next to me that were experts in Meteorology... specifically the study of lightning. I would eat lunch with them because they were "interesting" to say the least. When they found out I was a ham and asking them about lightning protection they laughed hysterically. Over their tenure they schooled me on my lack of knowledge in their area and beat into me immense gravity and consequences of a major lightning strike. Imaginable voltages and currents. You can prepare but you will never be sure. Static is something else. All of the antennas I design and implement have GROUNDED elements or static chokes to ground to reduce static to a minimum. You learn this with experience. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Rick NK7I Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 4:42 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A dumb question about lightning Not often (enough) does a ham have a 100'+ tower either. THE standard (of way so many to choose from) is from the cell phone industry (Motorola mostly). It's insanely complex but if you're on a mountain top and need 100% reliability; ideal. The costs, will be a second mortgage so some compromises will have to happen. Here is a better link to the current (newest edition) of the ARRL book; at least a good starting point for a baseline understanding. Direct hits, no matter what system/s used, will always show what you missed or didn't do enough to mitigate. https://a.co/d/01vRC1W Another aspect is static reduction. That comes from wind, rain, dust, snow, anything that passes by the structure. Shunt all to ground OUTside the building is the best approach. (Base of the tower/mast and again at structure entry; make EVERYTHING at the same ground potential, inside and out. When you take a hit, that potential rises, equally if all is done well; it's the difference in potential that harms.) 73, Rick nk7i On 7/28/2023 2:31 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote: Even the methods in that book are considered sub-standard by the broadcast industry... The only think that is a sure bet is to completely disconnect your radio and put it back in the shipping box. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ email: b...@wjschmidt.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 4:14 PM To: j...@kk9a.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A dumb question about lightning https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwiOk5PAqLKA AxUjEa0GHYmDBJgYABACGgJwdg=2=www.google.com=CAASJORo_AZEA zrEwZh7d0CRaunieFV8dsSC3IDZqsPWbucgX_uNKQ=AOD64_1qxgTjvgwY4_QbQuPW 5KxSnoObmA=2ahUKEwiEsI3AqLKAAxViAjQIHe9mC-UQ0Qx6BAgOEAE Welcome to the Bible of grounding. It’ll take several reads to grasp what you have to do. 73, Rick NK7I On Jul 28, 2023, at 2:11 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: I would recommend that you follow proper lightning bonding/grounding techniques, these are the only methods that work. My tower has taken a number of lighting strikes. You cannot prevent a lightning strike. Simply disconnecting your feedling will not prevent damage inside your house as the voltage from a strike will be induced into your home's electrical wires. John KK9A Al Lorona W6LX wrote: Please don't laugh at me; I'm a transplant from a region of the country with essentially no lightning to a region where you have to worry about it quite a bit. We had a doozy of a storm last night, with lots of lightning overhead. I felt like a sitting duck, even though I had grounded both sides of the balanced feedline of the antenna, switched the antenna switch to the middle (grounded) position, and even disconnected the coax leading to the K3's rear-panel antenna port. Whenever lightning happens, I always wonder if it really is in fact better to ground everything. Because, doesn't that essentially make a lightning rod of the antenna? If I simply disconnected the antenna and left it floating, wouldn't it be less likely to attract a lightning bolt? I'm of
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A dumb question about lightning
Not often (enough) does a ham have a 100'+ tower either. THE standard (of way so many to choose from) is from the cell phone industry (Motorola mostly). It's insanely complex but if you're on a mountain top and need 100% reliability; ideal. The costs, will be a second mortgage so some compromises will have to happen. Here is a better link to the current (newest edition) of the ARRL book; at least a good starting point for a baseline understanding. Direct hits, no matter what system/s used, will always show what you missed or didn't do enough to mitigate. https://a.co/d/01vRC1W Another aspect is static reduction. That comes from wind, rain, dust, snow, anything that passes by the structure. Shunt all to ground OUTside the building is the best approach. (Base of the tower/mast and again at structure entry; make EVERYTHING at the same ground potential, inside and out. When you take a hit, that potential rises, equally if all is done well; it's the difference in potential that harms.) 73, Rick nk7i On 7/28/2023 2:31 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote: Even the methods in that book are considered sub-standard by the broadcast industry... The only think that is a sure bet is to completely disconnect your radio and put it back in the shipping box. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ email: b...@wjschmidt.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 4:14 PM To: j...@kk9a.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A dumb question about lightning https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwiOk5PAqLKAAxUjEa0GHYmDBJgYABACGgJwdg=2=www.google.com=CAASJORo_AZEAzrEwZh7d0CRaunieFV8dsSC3IDZqsPWbucgX_uNKQ=AOD64_1qxgTjvgwY4_QbQuPW5KxSnoObmA=2ahUKEwiEsI3AqLKAAxViAjQIHe9mC-UQ0Qx6BAgOEAE Welcome to the Bible of grounding. It’ll take several reads to grasp what you have to do. 73, Rick NK7I On Jul 28, 2023, at 2:11 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: I would recommend that you follow proper lightning bonding/grounding techniques, these are the only methods that work. My tower has taken a number of lighting strikes. You cannot prevent a lightning strike. Simply disconnecting your feedling will not prevent damage inside your house as the voltage from a strike will be induced into your home's electrical wires. John KK9A Al Lorona W6LX wrote: Please don't laugh at me; I'm a transplant from a region of the country with essentially no lightning to a region where you have to worry about it quite a bit. We had a doozy of a storm last night, with lots of lightning overhead. I felt like a sitting duck, even though I had grounded both sides of the balanced feedline of the antenna, switched the antenna switch to the middle (grounded) position, and even disconnected the coax leading to the K3's rear-panel antenna port. Whenever lightning happens, I always wonder if it really is in fact better to ground everything. Because, doesn't that essentially make a lightning rod of the antenna? If I simply disconnected the antenna and left it floating, wouldn't it be less likely to attract a lightning bolt? I'm of the belief that it's better to try to avoid a direct hit than to attract one and trust your grounding system to do its thing. I'm of the belief that no grounding system is perfectly effective. Al W6LX/4 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to b...@wjschmidt.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A dumb question about lightning
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwiOk5PAqLKAAxUjEa0GHYmDBJgYABACGgJwdg=2=www.google.com=CAASJORo_AZEAzrEwZh7d0CRaunieFV8dsSC3IDZqsPWbucgX_uNKQ=AOD64_1qxgTjvgwY4_QbQuPW5KxSnoObmA=2ahUKEwiEsI3AqLKAAxViAjQIHe9mC-UQ0Qx6BAgOEAE Welcome to the Bible of grounding. It’ll take several reads to grasp what you have to do. 73, Rick NK7I > On Jul 28, 2023, at 2:11 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: > > I would recommend that you follow proper lightning bonding/grounding > techniques, these are the only methods that work. My tower has taken a > number of lighting strikes. You cannot prevent a lightning strike. Simply > disconnecting your feedling will not prevent damage inside your house as the > voltage from a strike will be induced into your home's electrical wires. > > John KK9A > > > Al Lorona W6LX wrote: > > > Please don't laugh at me; I'm a transplant from a region of the country with > essentially no lightning to a region where you have to worry about it quite > a bit. > > We had a doozy of a storm last night, with lots of lightning overhead. I > felt like a sitting duck, even though I had grounded both sides of the > balanced feedline of the antenna, switched the antenna switch to the middle > (grounded) position, and even disconnected the coax leading to the K3's > rear-panel antenna port. > > Whenever lightning happens, I always wonder if it really is in fact better > to ground everything. Because, doesn't that essentially make a lightning rod > of the antenna? If I simply disconnected the antenna and left it floating, > wouldn't it be less likely to attract a lightning bolt? > > I'm of the belief that it's better to try to avoid a direct hit than to > attract one and trust your grounding system to do its thing. I'm of the > belief that no grounding system is perfectly effective. > > Al W6LX/4 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8
That the K3 and K4 are clean transmitters (for a 12V final) is awesome for everyone on the air. Elecraft sets the bar again. But the highly popular JT modes are not the only audio based digital modes used these days. Others are more complex than one continuous phase shifted tone. With that in mind, there is no reason that comes to mind, why (no matter the brand) operators should not set their audio input for max UP TO where ALC begins, so that any audio based digital mode stays clean; the transmitter is given precisely what it needs to produce output without hunting or ‘coming up to power’. When I select 28 watts, it means I want and expect 28 watts on EVERY transmission, EVERY time IMMEDIATELY (to drive an amp where the differences become significant). Anything else, is just sloppy operating and there is already ample numbers of sloppy stations. We can each do our part to not be another (no matter the mode). 73, Rick NK7I > On Jul 23, 2023, at 7:23 AM, M Cresap via Elecraft > wrote: > > I have been running tests on K3s and K4s to understand the conditions > needed to transmit clean FT8 signals. I have previously shared some of my > findings with Pete N4ZR and a couple of other folks. Their feedback has been > very valuable. > > Joe Taylor, K1JT has shown the spectral purity of the FT4 and FT8 protocols > (using WSJT-X version 2.1 and later) to be very clean to 80 dB below the peak > signal. See https://wsjt.sourceforge.io/FT4_FT8_QEX.pdf (Figure 3 and related > discussion on pages 9 and 10) and > https://www.w2zq.com/wsjt-x-innards-explained-by-joe-taylor-k1jt/ (slide > entitled Spectra: RTTY, FT8, FT4). If the WSJT-X operating instructions are > followed (use operating mode "Fake-It" or "Split"), there is exactly one > clean signal to be transmitted as discussed in the exchanges in this thread > https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4/message/25371 > I have been endeavoring to ensure that ALL of the FT4 and FT8 spectra purity > shown by Joe Taylor can be replicated by my K3 and K4D in the Data A mode - > and that the recipe for a clean spectra can be shared with others. Clean FT8 > spectra is badly needed, especially in metro areas at 10 meters and above, > where many poor quality FT8 signals abound and wipe out many of the weaker > stations that other stations are trying to receive. Yes, there are > suggestions that folks in the same area all transmit at the same time, and > many people try it, but in practice, not everyone is on-board with that > suggestion. But, there are also stations on the air that transmit very clean > FT8 signals every day, so it can be done! > I shared with Pete that neither my K3 or K4 transmitted the cleanest possible > FT8 signal using either analog or USB digital inputs and the conventional > setup instructions that have been often repeated on this reflector (i.e. set > the audio level so there are 4/5 bars of ALC showing). After I beefed up my > DC power cable (it is now 2 feet of #10 wire between the K3 and the power > supply), I found that setting the Line In level to the point just before the > 1st ALC bar lights up (i.e. Line In = 2 in my case) results in a very clean > FT8 signal. As Pete reported, there is a slow increase of RF power output > level for 10-20 seconds as the ALC circuit compensates for the lower input > level, but apparently the ALC loop remains open, hence the clean signal. > > For my K4, the FT8 signal is clean with no more than 2 bars of ALC. > To be clear, the spurious responses I have seen with ALC set to 5 bars has NO > measurable IMD responses. There is only the one strong signal present, the > spurious signals being discussed here are all less than 50 or 60 dB below the > intended carrier level. My goal is to reduce all the spurious responses to 80 > dB below the intended carrier level. > > The discussion that Pete, N4ZR started several days ago got many responses > that could be grouped into three categories: > > 1. "The manufacturer says use 5 bars of ALC, end of story". I don't buy that > at all. I have yet to see any manufacturer's DATA on the relationship between > their transmit ALC levels (or any other metric) and the in-band spectral > purity of an FT8 like signal beyond "meets FCC spurious signal > requirements". > > 2. "I must be mistaken, my equipment is overloaded, etc". In years past, that > would have been a fair criticism, it would have taken hundreds of thousands > of $$ worth of calibrated test equipment to prove whether anyone's receiver > was overloaded or not. With today's high end receivers (the K4 being one of > them), the overload point in every gain state is well known (notably > confirmed and publicized by NC0I, Rob Sherwood)
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8
Pete, I would suspect that the local ham didn’t account for you overdriving his receiver (or test set) which would explain why an underdriven signal appeared cleaner (no overload). Had he attenuated your 4 bar signal, it would have been clean, I’m 100% certain. A full audio supplied (just shy of ALC) K3 is clean. I’ve had mine monitored several times with real test equipment, to make sure before I trusted it at QRO levels (and checked again in case there was an RFI distortion). On some radios harmonics will appear, but they are internal to the radio, not really on the air (overdrive distortion). It will remain as clean as the audio, up to the point the ALC begins to kick in; then it goes bad like any other radio. That’s the fault of ALC, not the radio. I DX, it’s about the only thing I do on ham radio. Most of the time at legal limit with a high gain antenna (helps to be LOUD, get heard, make the contact, fight less) and over the past several years FT8 has been the mode of choice by DX teams (limited staff, fast, one op can work 2-3 bands at a time, efficient and dreadfully boring). Had there been an issue, I would have heard about it by now; my station is one of several hundred potent signals on the band. But, you have your answer why it’s hunting power and can choose to operate as you see fit as long as you remember that the K3 will try to ‘pull’ more audio in order to obtain the power setting, which may be that it pulls in sounds and noises (power supply, signals on other sound card or rig noises) not normally heard (and looks poor on the output as a result). My suggestion: As stated prior for the how, 4 bars of audio drive with the 5th barely flickering (WSJT-X at max) and leave it all alone. Using audio drive on a modern rig as an RF output control is misusing the rig and clutters up the air. Leave the ‘power setting’ on WSJT-X at MAX; recheck the collections of settings periodically (and ALWAYS after a Windows update, they often do NASTY things to audio and USB port settings). The WSJT-X control is akin to reducing receive signal levels by trimming feet of antenna off, instead of using the RF gain control. It has the same results but it’s just not the correct method. If you do this, you’ll find that the clean output at the power you actually set the radio for, will allow other DXCC conclusions in very short order (because you’re loud and clean). The choice is yours. 73, Rick NK7I > On Jul 20, 2023, at 7:33 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: > > OK guys - rather than reply individually, let me try to pull everything > together in one message. > > In a previous effort at FT8 I followed the standard advice to set the power > slider in WSJT-X (on the lower RIGHT side) so that my K-3 showed 4 bars on > the ALC meter, just below the threshold for ALC starting, and that seemed to > work fine. Then a technically-qualified local ham showed me spectrum > analyzer images of a K-3 at 4 bars versus at no bars, and the difference was > startling - the no bars signal was clean and narrow, while the 4-bars signal > looked like some of those SSB sigs we hear during contests, wide and with > many artifacts. I am not going to identify my source here, but I'm fairly > sure he reads this reflector, so maybe he'll join the discussion > > Anyway, I'm kind of at sea - WSJT-X works fine with no bars - I've finished > 12 and 17M, as well as digital DXCC in the last few weeks, following his > advice. But the hunting typically takes almost 20 seconds of transmitting - > roughly 1 1/2 FT-8 cycles - to reach full power - and happens every time I > change bands, which puts me behind the curve if I switch bands, see someone I > need, and have to spend 1 1/2 transmit cycles getting up to full power before > I can call him effectively. > > 73, Pete N4ZR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8
Hi Jim, Maybe you’d feel better knowing that with WSJT-X at max; I had always adjusted the OS driver level plus the rig levels, starting mid range on both. And from midway, find the right blend to get the level to be proper with neither control at (or near) max so nobody shouts and no one strains to hear. That method has worked well for me, for many years now. With that added background, I stand by what I said. Set it to MAX and forget it. Adding more display controls opens the door to added confusion with poor signals by those who do not know what they’re doing in the first place. Eliminating the “power control” would be a step in the right direction; it only adds confusion, misunderstanding and poor signals. Audio level tweaking to adjust RF output is a poor method [on a modern radio]. Using the right controls (driver out —> rig input), as they were designed to be used is enough, adding more just mungs things up. So I suspect we actually agree. 73, Rick NK7I > On Jul 20, 2023, at 3:42 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 7/20/2023 2:47 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: >> s said MANY times, set the WSJT-X output to MAX, then IGNORE IT. > > Hi Rick, > > This is the only part of your excellent advice that I disagree with. The > reason is that the analog stages of computer gear tend to be poor, and start > generating increased distortion well below clip. My advice is to run analog > outputs of computer gear 6 dB below clip. > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8
Whomever K3 user told you to EVER use the output control other than MAX at ALL TIMES needs to go back to learning. They are NOT helping you. The WSJT-X output control is an AUDIO control, not an RF output control. On any rig made since 1985, one wants to adjust the RF for RF and the audio for audio. As said MANY times, set the WSJT-X output to MAX, then IGNORE IT. FOREVER. It is one stupid flaw in an otherwise brilliant application. Audio drive is NOT the way to manage RF output on any modern radio. Then adjust the audio during transmit (test mode) to 4 bars on the ALC, “just” tickling the 5th bar. That is the place that the K3 ALC begins. [If you undershoot the audio level, the K3 still attempts to reach that power output, but the results may not be pleasing to others on the air.] Now when you send, the K3 will put out the power you choose and the signal will be clean and stable. You set the output power with the RF output control, not a garage door opener. Right tool, right job. It’s REALLY frustrating to see this reappearing EVERY year; the K3 is not a JA radio, it manages things differently and generally better. One would think that after so many years the misinformation would fade out. So now YOU know how to set the audio on the K3 and will be cleaner than those who attempted to mislead you with false information. This method holds true on ANY audio based digital mode (like AFSK, PSK…). 73, Rick NK7I > On Jul 20, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: > > I've recently started operating FT8, and on advice from other K3 users, have > been adjusting the power slider in WSJT-X to a level just short of or just > into the first flickers of ALC. I did this because I was advised that > setting the slider for 4 or 5 bars of ALC generated junk in the FT8 passband. > I am running the K3 in Data A mode > > Since I did this, I've noticed strange (to me, anyway) behavior from my K3. > When WSJT-X starts an FT8 transmit cycle, after I have just switched to the > current band or changed the power slider in WSJT-X or the PWR control on my > K-3, the K3's power output starts essentially at zero and slowly ramps up > through 1- 1 1/2 FT8 transmit cycles. Once it reaches the expected level, > subsequent transmissions stay at that level. > > I've been told (not by Elecraft) that this behavior is a result of the K3's > firmware "hunting" for the right power level, but such a slow and repetitious > behavior doesn't fit with the rest of what I've come to expect from my K3. > It doesn't happen on CW or SSB either. So what's going on? > > -- > 73, Pete N4ZR > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] question K3 digital duty cycle power FT8
13 seconds of transmit, 17 seconds of receive = 43% duty cycle. I use (rarely) less than 100 watts, all the way up to band legal limit. With a K3, don't worry about it. IF the cooling become inadequate due to local environment, it'll reduce output to protect itself. 73, Rick nk7i On 5/21/2023 12:43 PM, AB2E Darrell wrote: Hi all, I'm leaving for VP9 on Wed, and taking my trusty K3. A little time will be devoted to FT8 so my question is what is the duty cycle for running FT8 on K3? I've read a couple old posts about PSK, so I'm wondering what the group is doing. How much power out are you running the K3 on FT8 without overheating etc? 73 Darrell AB2E (portable VP9 from 24-29May) __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] No FT mode.
Should be Microham Input MicroHAM CODEC and output Headset earphone Microham CODEC on WSJT settings for audio. Rick NJ5W On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 6:00 PM Lou Mecseri wrote: > I have an 100% updated K3. > > Suddenly I lost capability to transmit FT8 mode. > > CW and SSB works OK, I do not know about RTTY. > > My K3 is connected to a MicroHam Microkeyer II. > > Is my FT8 signal being generated in which sound card? > > 73, Lou KE1F > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rreynold...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 pre order
Ordered mine Mar 7th, still waiting. So not quite down to 4 weeks yet. Hopefully mine will arrive sometime this week. Rick NJ5W On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 1:36 PM Jim Rhodes wrote: > The wait time is down to 3-4 weeks, so not as big a deal as 2 years ago. > Ordered mine in Jan and had it within 4 weeks. > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 13:18 Dean L/ K2WW wrote: > > > Is it possible to " Buy" someone who is impatiently waiting and pre-paid > > for their K4, and change the shipping info? > > Reminds me of the lunch line in High School, ahead back ahead > > If it is, I'm your Huckleberry > > > > 73 > > Dean K2WW > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to jimk...@gmail.com > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rreynold...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] On the threshold of a dream
I recently pulled my TenTec Omni V off the shelf and what a treat to have a radio that I could clearly see all functions. It is a nice tan/beige color. My KX3 system sits at an angle so I can see it clearly, but it is in the house 95% of the time. Remember when most computers were a tan color . I think it is time for the industry to consider color options. Not like ordering a car, but just switch out to something more readable. It would be kinda neat if someone with more computer skills than me would take some current radios and photoshop the black to another color. Not too long ago there were a couple of folks painting the Icom 7200 in camo and olive drab. They looked good. Just my 2 cents on a lighter , more reflective color. On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 2:23 PM Mike Morrow wrote: > Pray the case of the futuristic KX is NOT a BLACK solar radiation > absorbing super-sponge like the KX2. > > Mike / KK5F > > -Original Message- > From: Wayne Burdick > Sent: Apr 1, 2023 10:17 AM > To: > > Wow, Kevin. An instant classic in the emerging field of subliminal viral > marketing. Dream itown it. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#75479): > https://Elecraft-KX.groups.io/g/main/message/75479 > Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/98088799/1272396 > Group Owner: main+ow...@elecraft-kx.groups.io > Unsubscribe: > https://Elecraft-KX.groups.io/g/main/leave/4395811/1272396/156185750/xyzzy > [rickw...@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > -- Rick For long you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you’ll cry and all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Won't Turn On all of a sudden!
I was happily using my K3 as the control head for a remote K3 via a pair of RemoteRig 1258 controllers. I powered down using the POWER button for a few hours. When I tried to power up again, I couldn't get the K3 to fully start up. While the POWER button is depressed, the screen lights up its background color with nothing displayed. When I let go of the button, it goes dark. I saw this once before, about a month ago, but it went away. Disconnecting all cables from the radio makes no difference. The power cable from the SEC 1223 PS reads 14.1V no load. Any ideas what might be going on? Thanks, /Rick N6XI -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT K3-F P3-F & SP3.
No negative experience just asking about pro’s and con’s since he had worked with both Flex and K4. I’m considering getting one or the other. I’ve had the k3 for 10 years now and thinking it’s time to replace it. Rick NJ5W Rick From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Edward Mccann Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:18:16 PM To: Julia Tuttle Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT K3-F P3-F & SP3. Tnx Julia and Dave; I just thought it would be enlightening to hear whatever knocks “Rick” had in the K4, and if he actually had first hand experience with one or was parroting some of the negative spin floating around. Ray was very convincing on his support of the K4, in any case!! Good on ya’ Ray. Ed McCann AG6CX > On Mar 2, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote: > Thirded; another bit of context I try to provide is a quote or page number > when "it's in the manual", and I appreciate it when others do. > > (And, while we're on "ways we can make the list more usable for each > other": please, if possible, use standard sentence case; EVERY LETTER > CAPITALIZED and The First Letter Of Every Word Capitalized are needlessly > difficult to read.) > > 73, > > Julie > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 4:48 PM Dave (NK7Z) wrote: > >> I agree... It would be nice of folks added a bit of context to their >> replies. Far too many replies like, "clip the red wire", happen, and >> without having the entire thread available it is impossible to follow... >> >> 73, >> Dave, >> https://www.nk7z.net >> On 3/2/23 11:39, Edward Mccann wrote: >>> Missing the correspondence that elicited your response. >>> Would you be kind enough to forward the incoming from “Rick” ? >>> Thanks, >>> Ed McCann >>> AG6CX >>>> On Mar 2, 2023, at 11:16 AM, Ramon Batista wrote: >>>> We Did A Comparison Here At Home With Anan 7000-Flex 6400M-K4D , Live >> And >>>> With Signal Generator , Putting Noise And Carrier Signals At Filters >>>> Bandwidth Edge Of All If Them, Injecting S1 Level And Listening To S2-3 >>>> Stations And I’ll Keep K4D By The Results. Is My Personal Experience >> Rick. >>>> 73’s. >>>> __ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to edwmcc...@gmail.com >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to edwmcc...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rreynold...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
On Mon 27 Feb Kevin KD5ONS wrote: > There was another layer of noise, similarly varied. There was quite a good aurora active at around 2300z, seen over this side of the Atlantic at latitudes as low as the south of England. That might have added something to the noise... -- 73, Rick, M0LEP (KX3 #3281) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Looking for WSJT-X Rig Control advice
I politely and firmly, disagree. It's too prone to operator error and sending cruft that doesn't belong on the air. A SECOND internal card for radio, fine. The only one; bad plan. Rick nk7i On 2/24/2023 3:22 PM, Wes wrote: There is nothing wrong with using the internal sound card for digital modes. Wes N7WS On 2/24/2023 1:58 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: And ranks right up there with folks using the OS sound card, instead of a second card for radio use for obnoxious behavior. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Looking for WSJT-X Rig Control advice
On 2/24/2023 12:46 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: If you cannot, or will not, use CAT with real or fake split please do not transmit with DF less than 1,500 Hz. I have far too many FT8 harmonics examples in my "horror signals" library. Andy, k3wyc And ranks right up there with folks using the OS sound card, instead of a second card for radio use for obnoxious behavior. One can hear voice, music, ambient audio (all illegal) along with the tones (ALL of which diminishes the signal you WANT to send/hear). And lack of RFI management (or other flaws) can produce a SPECTRUM of cruft sent, which helps no one. If you're just starting out (and on occasion) ASK a neighbor to look at your signal to make sure it's as you need it to be. 73, Rick nk7i __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT
The old CW traffic handler gag was "Having a great time. Wish you were her(e)" with the final dit, missed. 73, Rick nk7i On 2/17/2023 12:50 PM, Dale Boresz wrote: Unfortunately, there are a lot of missing spaces on the CW bands too. 73, Dale - WA8SRA On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 2:49 PM Dave New, N8SBE wrote: Alan, For starters where are all the spaces? :-) Makes it hard to read, that's for sure. ... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dmbor...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] Peter Martinez And The CW-To-PSK31 Feature
Me, too. A roll of paper weighed more than a KX3. /Rick N6XI On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 11:18 AM jerry wrote: > On 2023-02-05 11:01, a...@elecraft.com wrote: > >> Some would argue there's no activity in ham radio, or perhaps life > >> itself, > >> more rewarding than making RTTY contest QSOs using a 1 pound radio > >> with a > >> whip and an attached keyer paddle > > > > You mean I no longer need my 75-pound Model 15 Teletype machine to > > send/receive RTTY? > > *** I had one of those! It didn't have a case. Pretty loud... :). > Long live Baudot! > >- Jerry, KF6VB > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keying the K3s
Running exactly at 5.0 watts or 50 watts setting CAN cause a change in the TX GAIN setting on a K3(s). That is the setting that can trigger the calibration algorithm; which if not connected to a dummy load, can be 'wrong' (causing problems). The K4 has a menu item to en/disable changes in this setting, the K3(s) does not. This is confirmed by Elecraft repair folks (on the groups.io list for the K3) and possibly here on qth.net. Running at 4.9/5.1 or 49/51 watts output is HIGHLY recommended if that is the output neighborhood that is wanted. Not every detail is in the manual (of which many updates have been made over the years) and not every firmware comment has been folded into the manual either. So you look at the firmware comments AND the latest manual(s); then the email list_*S*_ for a complete answer. 73, Rick nk7i On 1/24/2023 10:21 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: I do not believe that 5 and 50 watts cause issues on the K3S. I do not recall seeing this in th manual and I have never had an issue doing it. You can search Elecraft archives here: https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/maillist.html John KK9A Lee Hiers AA4GA wrote: How would one search the archives for this info? Is this only the K3S, or does it also include K3? How about a K3/10? And you're saying one should never transmit with the transmitter set to 5W (or 50W)? I do drive an Alpha 8410 with my K3/10 - and I've probably done so at 5W out of the K3/10, although normally I'm using 12W. I would appreciate a link to something that indicates this is a bad thing to do. 73 de Lee, AA4GA __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keying the K3s
Here is one place (QTH.net is not the only Elecraft list): https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/message/37177?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Acreated%2C0%2Ctx+gain%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C92585600 73, Rick nk7i On 1/24/2023 9:31 AM, Lee Hiers wrote: Searching what? The only archives I see are listed by month, with no place to enter a search - that's my search issue! 73 de Lee On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:26 PM Jim McCook wrote: Lee, just try searching with keywords, such as TX GAIN, K3 power spikes, TX GAIN Calibration, etc. etc. The best thing you can do, if you're not convinced transmitting at 5 or 50w is a risk, is ask Elecraft. K6XX, who designed the KPA1500, was the first to tell me about this. Keith, who services the K3 and K3s, confirmed it multiple times on this reflector. Ask someone at Elecraft.73,Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered tolee.hi...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] arrl.net domain is being blocked!
It also won’t forward if the from address is the same as it is supposed to forward to; so use a second account for testing. 73, Rick NK7I > On Jan 23, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Andrew Moore wrote: > > Note that many email clients can be configured with a custom "reply-to" > address - using your @arrl.net address there is still fair game, and will > cause "reply" function to send it to you @arrl.net. > > 73, > NV1B > .. > > > >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 4:56 PM Dave New wrote: >> >> Thought I'd follow up on the list with the information I received from the >> mailman.qth.net support: >> >> Hi Dave. ARRL has published something called an 'SPF record' which >> specifies what SMTP servers are allowed to use arrl.net as a FROM address. >> This effectively stops the ability for anyone to send out emails using @ >> arrl.net as their FROM address. You can receive mail, but you can no >> longer send out email using that as your email address. You will want to >> quickly change your email program so it no longer uses @arrl.net as your >> FROM address, as servers worldwide will stop receiving those emails (they >> will either reject them, or simply discard them, or put them in a spam >> folder -- either way, your emails aren't going to get through to most >> folks) >> >> While this was ARRL's decision, it is the correct one. GMail has stopped >> taking mail from any domain that has no SPF record, so ARRL was forced into >> this. And, by the way, the ARRL never promoted or even said you could use >> @ >> arrl.net as your FROM address. It has always been marketed as a free email >> forwarding service. >> >> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it is what it is. Nobody can fix >> this. Stop using @arrl.net as your FROM address as soon as possible. >> >> - Scott KA9FOX >> >> 73, >> -- Dave, N8SBE >> >>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 4:36 PM Dave New wrote: >>> >>> I've had several emails blocked from my 'normal' email address I use for >>> ham-radio related emails, n8...@arrl.net. >>> >>> According to the email bounce messages I received, all email from >> arrl.net >>> is being blocked. >>> >>> I've sent an email to ke...@elecraft.com, who is listed as this email >>> list administrator, but he may not see this right away, as this is a >> Sunday. >>> >>> Does anyone else on the list know who to contact? >>> >>> In the meantime, I've had to subscribe with a gmail address (which is >>> ironic, since the vast majority of SPAM on the Internet comes from that >>> domain), so I can post the 80M SSB Net Announcement for this evening. >> Hope >>> to see you all there. >>> >>> 73, >>> -- Dave, N8SBE >>> >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to andrew.n...@gmail.com >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 recommendation - wait for HD or no?
Get the K4D now and see how it does in your situation with your and your neighbor's operating habits. By the time the HD upgrade is available, you'll know whether you want it. I've been very happy with K4D at Field Day sites and in high power SO2R operation except when two stations are on the same band. 73, /Rick N6XI On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:54 AM Joseph M. Durnal wrote: > I share a property line with another ham. Some of his low band wires are > within a wavelength of my vertical. When he's transmitting, I rarely > notice with K3 unless I'm really close. The IC-7300, he can wipe out my > receive if we are trying to work on the same portion of the band. > > I have my sights set on a K4D, but wondering if I should be considering the > HD version. > > Thanks & 73 de Joe NE3R > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & K3S Options Last Time Buy Update, (12/02/2022)
While this article is for the K4, the exact same should be done for the K3 to stop accidental keying during boot up of the OS. I suggest that you do this for ALL of your USB ports and while you're there, also defeat (turn off, uncheck) power savings mode (once turned off, it won't restart until the next reboot, negating it's value to less than zero), again on ALL of your USB devices (hubs, ports etc). 73, Rick nk7i Use Windows Device Manager (run devmgmt.msc) to change the Advanced properties of both of the K4 FTDI virtual serial ports: Uncheck Serial Enumeration Check Disable Modem Control At Startup Details and rationale here, with screenshots: https://bit.ly/FTDItip On 12/5/2022 10:53 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: Ed, Likely the 'clicking' you are hearing is the PC initializing the USB ports on boot up. If you watch closely, you will see the K3 PTT/XMIT come on a few times during the computer boot up. It's harmless, but annoying, although if I recall correctly, on CW it actually ends up sending a carrier. There was a firmware update for the K3/K3S that makes it ignore those computer PTT by leaving the VOX turned off on CW until you transmit something (not from the computer). This happens if you power cycle the K3 before turning on the computer. Of course, you could just turn off the K3 and leave it off until the computer finishes booting. I don't have an explanation as to why moving the USB cable to the front ports seemingly has stopped the issue. Perhaps you just didn't happen to trigger the issue (see above)? Hope that helps, -- Dave, N8SBE On 2022-12-04 16:24, Ed Cole wrote: Nice to hear about. I contacted sales@elecraft regarding getting on the KI03B list (more than a year ago) and was told, at that time I would be added. I have the KI03A (original with my K3) which Elecraft repaired about two years ago and has worked well, so far. I decided I should have a backup so ordered the B board (A NLA). But not being one of the original list, but an add-on, I wonder if inventory will be sufficient to fill my order? I encountered a strange phenomena, as the K3 would constantly click whenever the computer I/F cable (from Elecraft) was connected and computer turned on. I have 4 USB ports on rear of computer and 2 on front. Moving to a front USB connector ceased the clicking. BTW the clicking appears not to affect the K3 operation (port uses Com5). I use my K3 on FT8 and for eme (JT65 or Q65), so very important the computer I/F works correctly. B version uses direct USB/USB interface so might not be an issue. 73, Ed - KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Shifting Bands without any change in K3 Frequency
Have you tried putting the KAT500 into MAN mode (not bypass or AUTO)? Once trained for bands (memory loaded), MAN is the best way to use the tuner. It'll recall the tuning combination but won't go into auto-retune. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/14/2022 6:00 PM, Joe Rogers wrote: I am operating the KPA500 KAT500 power combo with the K3. The combination works great and normally makes frequency and antenna changes really simple. I operate on MARS frequencies and normally all works just fine outside of all the amateur bands with the KPA500/KAT500/K3 there is, however, one frequency where there is an issue. When transmitting at about 4.5 MHz using SSB or digital modes, using the KPA500/KAT500/K3 combination, the band indication shoes the KPA500 spuriously shifting back and forth between 3.5 and 5.3 MHz bands. This also affects the amplifier output power. I can also hear what sounds like contact/relay cycling. This makes the combo unusable on this frequency. How can I resolve this problem so that the KPA500 is usable on this frequency? 73 Joe AJ1Y __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Voltage?
Aluminum was legal at one point, as I recall it was the 80's (copper prices were obscene). It was an expensive mistake to allow aluminum wiring. I attended some fires as a result of aluminum wire (career firefighter, eventually Captain). My suspicion was that as switches and plugs were used, aluminum tolerated the small flexing less than copper (which basically self heals, molds to the connection being softer) and as it is exposed to air, a layer of aluminum oxide is produced (wrapping the internal content ) creating higher resistance. Over time the resistance and small flexes caused arcing, that gets to a point that it heats; causing the excitement. I don't have the chemistry or metallurigc background to confirm this; but this was the result of the cause investigation.. Adding a copper pigtail is a practical solution (cheaper than replacing all the wire). Aluminum wire is not used by me, anywhere, just like the backstab plugs and switches (if you can't bind them down; don't use them). I have seen the harm that can result and don't want to lose my house and possessions as I've seen others lose. In the cost of a house or shack, copper; the small increase in cost reaps major benefits (and aluminum is no longer legal for new construction, at least when I retired). 73, Rick nk7i On 11/14/2022 2:25 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: When my younger brother was finally out of the house for good, Mom and Dad bought a double-wide, sold the house in So. Central LAX, and moved south into a "Mobile Estates Park" in Costa Mesa. The wiring was Al. About 3 years later, they had a problem in one of the outlets that involved a small amount of smoke. That wasn't a serious incident, but Dad had to go around to each of the switches and outlets and put Cu pigtails on the Al wires to connect to the devices. I never got a clear story about what caused the original problem or why this would fix it. But, I'm really wary of Al wiring in house in which we sleep. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Lyn Norstad wrote on 11/14/2022 2:08 PM: Ed - I cringe when I think of aluminum wiring. I know it's currently about half the price of copper, but a townhouse I lived in from 1979-1982 in Chicago caught fire because of aluminum wiring and copper outlets. In fact, statistics show that 50% of home fires are due to aluminum wiring. Aluminum does not meet any current (pun by chance ...) building codes around here. It's all copper. Has been for at least 40 years. If you're stuck with aluminum (and it's legal??), be sure to liberally apply antioxidant where needed. 73 Lyn, WØLEN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Voltage?
Jon, Then we disagree, I'm not brokenhearted, hi hi. But not entirely. Lights are now (by law in places) LED but that is a trivial load in the greater picture. Older homes often struggle with appliances, which (conveniently) are now more efficient, using less load, BUT some are still substantial (electric oven, HVAC. electric dryer) in old homes. There are still plenty of old homes with wiring dating from the build date, trying to keep up with present day loads. The general point is to be aware of the larger picture; what is being consumed; which circuit supplies to what item/s and most importantly: Is ANY circuit being used to the max, unknowingly or not? If you're still using (because it runs and is paid for) an older appliance; it uses more energy. Be aware, more so if you're in a 60 year old house (when lights and perhaps a radio station to listen to was the norm). This time of year (in the north US at least); folks are starting to use portable electric heaters to augment the HVAC (I use a wood stove by preference, warm AND dry heat, the HVAC is the fallback plan). House fires are increasing at the same rate; often caused by wiring issues (most often, using a power strip and failing to note the load on the entire circuit or the strip). (Chimney fires are the second most cause this time of year.) The real issue: Folks don't look at what they're doing; they just keep plugging stuff in blithe ignorance. Again back to the original point, the power company MAY provide 110V or 120V or anything in between over the course of a day (most are VERY stable at what they provide); what the operator gets at the station plugs, tracks that too. If the provider offers 110V instead of 120V (the present standard); the tap on the transformer will have to be changed. If the house circuit struggles to provide the current; keep the tapped voltage within that window (and update the wiring). What happened in central coast CA, may not be the same as BFE Texas on old wiring, in an old home (knob and tube still?). If the lights dim while transmitting; you're (likely) exceeding the current capacity of the circuit. (If they get brighter, you have a house electrical grounding situation; excluding RFI cause; a far more dangerous alert.) Bottom line: Use the tap that keeps the amp within the voltage span required. Watch and be aware of the total house load/s, in particular whatever shares the amp power circuit. Don't overload ANY of the circuits. I think we can agree on that point. ;-) 73, Rick nk7i On 11/14/2022 9:36 AM, Jon Poland wrote: I disagree with Rick. It is true that modern houses have more electric capacity. But as homeowners shift to more efficient appliances and lighting, electric loads (and bills) are consistently dropping. The one trend that counters that though is that modern homes (at least in the US) are consistently larger than their older counterparts and require more energy to keep comfortable. That trend does not explain voltage drops though. My 12 year old house has 200 amp service. I don't know why. But since building it, we have shifted to 90+% LED lighting, high efficiency dishwasher, fridge, and clothes washer. My entire lighting load at any given time is less than 120W. A smart thermostat reduces AC and furnace loads. The 2 largest electrical loads are the clothes dryer and gas furnace blower. This house is also better insulated than any home I have ever owned - also reducing the furnace load (gas and electricity). Curiously, the next largest load in many homes are the TV's turned on in every bedroom... (But their heat reduces the amount of time the furnace needs to run.) Of course, if you have an electric car charger the picture changes drastically... But that is still a small percentage of US homes today. jon N0WL On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:10 AM Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: Too high at THEIR location. Power company feeds, vary (not a lot but their load changes, they adjust). House wiring varies and other devices on that circuit can cause other variations too. Older homes (1950's and older) often have less capacity than newer homes (didn't need it then). Today we use a LOT more energy than then; some house circuits are no longer 'adequate' (causing fires in some cases because folks abuse the wiring in ignorance). Part of station set up and operations, is knowing what the circuit(s) of the house wiring, is connected to besides the station. Fridge, washer, HVAC, electric oven shared with the station? If you need one more tap to get within the right voltage window, use one more tap to achieve that. If you change circuits, remeasure. And if on the same circuit, maybe don't run the washing machine or oven at the same time as the amp. ;-) 73, Rick nk7i On 11/14/2022 6:38 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Voltage?
Too high at THEIR location. Power company feeds, vary (not a lot but their load changes, they adjust). House wiring varies and other devices on that circuit can cause other variations too. Older homes (1950's and older) often have less capacity than newer homes (didn't need it then). Today we use a LOT more energy than then; some house circuits are no longer 'adequate' (causing fires in some cases because folks abuse the wiring in ignorance). Part of station set up and operations, is knowing what the circuit(s) of the house wiring, is connected to besides the station. Fridge, washer, HVAC, electric oven shared with the station? If you need one more tap to get within the right voltage window, use one more tap to achieve that. If you change circuits, remeasure. And if on the same circuit, maybe don't run the washing machine or oven at the same time as the amp. ;-) 73, Rick nk7i On 11/14/2022 6:38 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Gordon - I had mine set up, as Rick suggests - but when it was in for service, they dropped it back a notch saying it was too high. My readings now agree with yours. 73 Lyn, WØLEN -Original Message- From:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick NK7I Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 1:03 PM To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Voltage? I'd move it up one tap as long as it does NOT EXCEED 85V at receive. Higher voltage not only gives you better output but also cleaner. That matters too. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/12/2022 10:25 AM, Gordon LaPoint wrote: My KPA500 is showing 57-58 VDC at 450-500 watts out, and 71-72 VDC on rx. Is this normal or should I move up one tap? Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Voltage?
I'd move it up one tap as long as it does NOT EXCEED 85V at receive. Higher voltage not only gives you better output but also cleaner. That matters too. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/12/2022 10:25 AM, Gordon LaPoint wrote: My KPA500 is showing 57-58 VDC at 450-500 watts out, and 71-72 VDC on rx. Is this normal or should I move up one tap? Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Recommendation for Microphone for K3s?
Yes. $60 Yamaha CM500 Closed-back Broadcast Headset with Boom Mic https://a.co/d/7c5F962 73, Rick NK7I > On Nov 1, 2022, at 9:56 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: > > Is the Yamaha CM500 still being manufactured? > > John KK9A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Recommendation for Microphone for K3s?
Heil are overpriced and the headsets, give headaches too (too tight). They're nothing special; you can dial in equalization just as well in the K3S. I bought the Heil with my K3 and quickly gave up on them. The Yamaha CM500 plugs into the rear (with bias) and the headphones are comfy for hours, without spending a lot (by comparison, you can get a few for the cost of one Heil). They block most of the noise in my shack. I keep a couple spares as the foam covers do wear out. If you need to block of lot of shack noise, there are other options, most are expensive. A search of the archives is recommended, this topic has been covered many times before. 73, Rick nk7i On 11/1/2022 2:39 PM, Clark Macaulay wrote: Hi, Bernie. Like you, I am a CW op that dabbles in FT8. About a year ago I decided to dabble in SSB just to hear an operator's voice in QSO parties and the like. For my K3, I use the Heil ProSET K2 sold by Elecraft and am very pleased with it. I chose a headset/mic only because I don't have the space for a desktop or boom mic. The connections are to the rear panel of the K3 making for a very clean setup. After setting the equalization levels others have recommended, I'm told my audio is very good. On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 5:13 PM Bernie and Cheryl wrote: Dear Folks: Although I'm primarily a CW op, and dabble in FT8 (sadly, sometimes there's no one on anywhere else except for FT8), I'm thinking about expanding my SSB presence on the bands. I have a K3s and would be interested if anyone has a specific recommendation for a good microphone? I'm thinking about one of the Heil microphones (either the Heil Gold or the Heil HM-10XD) but am willing to look at anything else someone may recommend. Thanks and 73 de Bernie, KF0QS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to clark.macau...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 RELIABILITY
Remember, almost no one posts messages saying "My xxx hasn't failed." Only the bad news shows up on the reflectors. /Rick N6XI On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 2:29 AM Mark Musick wrote: > Hi George, > We need a little more information. > How many times have you sent it back? > What were the issues? Was it the same issue each time you sent it back? > Give us some detailed information about the issue(s). > I have KPA1500 serial number 112. I took delivery in April 2017. It has > never been back to CA. > I have used it on 6 meters FT8, MSK144, Q65 and CW a lot. I finished my 6 > meter DXCC in July 2021. I've used it in many QSO parties. It hasn't missed > a beat. > It has been a pleasant upgrade from the Alpha 9500 that it replaced. > I don't know how many KPA1500s are out there, but I'm sure it is a lot. I > don't think there is a reliability issue with these amps. > If you have been watching this reflector, yes there have been amps with > failures. And yes, some have failed due to a bad component. However, the > vast majority of the returns are because the operator was subjecting the > amp to something it didn't like. > > 73, > Mark, WB9CIF > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of W3AB/GEO > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 00:01 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 RELIABILITY > > I don't have one but I do have access to one. It is making UPS rich going > back and forth. Is there a reliability issue with these amps? > > --- > 73 de W3AB/GEO > AFA9GB > > WA2LSI, KE6RJW, W7B, AAR9AG > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraftdata=05%7C01%7C%7C303b896f5edc4edb5c6e08daba0a1d19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638026849853388283%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=LfbXaV7ZqOQYO8U6wQ79RO7EldISQlKPtKg1GI2UQ%2Fo%3Dreserved=0 > Help: > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htmdata=05%7C01%7C%7C303b896f5edc4edb5c6e08daba0a1d19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638026849853388283%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=l1sPWnE1p8mD%2BL2cnjSCE9Z%2FzXHLxBON%2FuLDuGNpdlo%3Dreserved=0 > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C303b896f5edc4edb5c6e08daba0a1d19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638026849853388283%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=itctzaxL6ela%2FNIzwm9JaLoFOZLhZuZvaZaeO2zvfjk%3Dreserved=0 > Please help support this email list: > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.htmldata=05%7C01%7C%7C303b896f5edc4edb5c6e08daba0a1d19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638026849853388283%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=FPnZdkhSVID3CJCFIBhYqRl370x3eeXOq2MCGQC2VXw%3Dreserved=0 > Message delivered to markmus...@outlook.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Any KX2 or KX3 owners have experience with the IC-7300
On Sun 09 Oct wrote: > I am almost exclusively a CW operator. I have an old IC-706MK II that > drives me crazy trying to operate CW with all the clacking relays. > > I am looking at the IC-7300 as my potential field day and RV rig. Can > anyone who has used the IC-7300 for CW tell me if it still uses relays > or diodes for sending CW? It has a relay at least for TX/RX switching. It's nothing like as horrible as the old IC-706MK II but you'll want to be wearing enclosed headphones. It also does rather a lot via touch-screen, which can be a bit of a nuisance at times. -- 73, Rick, M0LEP (KX3 #3281) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] communications on KX2 Mic's (MH3)
As a side reference I waited for the KAT500, patiently, for months. I waited for the KPA500, patiently, for months. I waited for the KPA1500, patiently, over a year (prepaid in full). I waited for the K4D, patiently, 18 months (prepaid in full). I didn't once ask for an update or cancel an order or ask for a refund, didn't once whine when it wasn't there yet and was happy when it showed up. I wasn't happy with the delay, but understood the reasons BECAUSE of the lists. They posted JUST as often as now, though not on every list at the same time. I track most of the lists, to learn of the other products too, even if I don't have them because they are interesting products. I was patient, you can be too. It really is THAT simple. They've posted the delay causes and they can't ship what they don't have. Unbecoming comments do not help anything and should be directed AT those responsible. Rick nk7i On 10/8/2022 11:40 AM, David Gilbert wrote: Wow. On 10/8/2022 11:35 AM, Rick NK7I wrote: You're whining, nothing more. It's unbecoming. Pay attention to the lists; or not at your own risk. Rick nk7i On 10/8/2022 11:22 AM, David Gilbert wrote: That's ridiculous. Any company that had your attitude would be out of business. No way should anyone have to keep track of emails on a listserver to know where their order stands. I can't even believe you would think it so. Wayne has plenty of time to post regular updates on his personal ham radio operations, but not enough to make sure his customers have someone sending them regular updates on orders they have paid for months earlier? This isn't about supply chain problems. This is about Elecraft's basic responsibility to keep paid customers informed. "Personal hand holding" is what Elecraft used to be known for, and it's no longer valid for them to blame the lack of it on fires and supply chain issues. Several years ago out of pure curiosity I did a survey of over 2,000 more or less randomly chosen reviews on eHam. Almost ALL of the ratings of 1 of 2 (out of 5) were for poor responsiveness and customer service. Not product features, not product cost, and not reliability ... but for bad communication and apparent lack of care. Dave AB7E owner of a K1, K3, and KX2 On 10/8/2022 8:54 AM, Rick NK7I wrote: This is well beyond tiresome now. They HAVE stated the situation via email, to the group(s) recently. Lack of attention by the reader/s is NOT their fault. They won't take the time for personal hand holding, that time is better spent assembling and shipping what product they can move. They can't sell what they can't get. The last order THEY got was sub-standard, sent back to await a new shipment (a few weeks ago). ALL shipments of ANY type have been tediously slow, worldwide. A month setback creates a year of backlog; the entire world was shut down for over 2 YEARS. It will take a decade or more to get back on track as we know it. Normal doesn't exist anymore. If you NEED a mic, get another until the one you want (and ordered and paid for) is eventually available. The rest, is noise and whining, showing complete lack of understanding and patience. Let's END this thread. 73, Rick nk7i On 10/8/2022 8:22 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: Dave/AB7E seems to understand the point 100% correctly and a lot of you are twisting my (and others) words. The point is not that I don't have a microphone or that I couldn't cobble together a connector for from another brand of mic. I could even (I suppose) find an alternate on Amazon or somewhere (should I have to buy another mic?) The point is, almost a year ago I purchased a KX2-shack-in-a-box kit and it came without a mic (it was purchased and paid for as part of that kit) and I had to inform Elecraft once it arrived that I was shorted a mic.) Nothing in the paperwork nor any communication before it arrived stated it would be arriving w/o a MH3 mic, so this was a surprise. I even have an email from Wayne from January 10th,2022 that states (in part) ".We should have MH3s back in stock in several weeks. Will that suffice?..." It's a long way from early December 2021 when I finally was invoiced (after I submitted my purchase request in October or November) 2021 and finally paid for my KX2 shack-in-a-box kit (which I love by the way_) (or even Jan 10th, 2021_) All I am saying is..there has been zero communication like "we know we owe you a microphone and when we get them you'll be on the top of the list when we get them.) ZERO. All I have is a couple (now very old) emails from Wayne from early January that "it must have be an oversight" (which I accept; Hey - nobody's or any company is perfect) I get it. I accept the oversight. I accept the backorder. I check the Elecraft site for shipping status. I know they don't have them. I deal with electronic parts and service over 11
Re: [Elecraft] communications on KX2 Mic's (MH3)
You're whining, nothing more. It's unbecoming. Pay attention to the lists; or not at your own risk. Rick nk7i On 10/8/2022 11:22 AM, David Gilbert wrote: That's ridiculous. Any company that had your attitude would be out of business. No way should anyone have to keep track of emails on a listserver to know where their order stands. I can't even believe you would think it so. Wayne has plenty of time to post regular updates on his personal ham radio operations, but not enough to make sure his customers have someone sending them regular updates on orders they have paid for months earlier? This isn't about supply chain problems. This is about Elecraft's basic responsibility to keep paid customers informed. "Personal hand holding" is what Elecraft used to be known for, and it's no longer valid for them to blame the lack of it on fires and supply chain issues. Several years ago out of pure curiosity I did a survey of over 2,000 more or less randomly chosen reviews on eHam. Almost ALL of the ratings of 1 of 2 (out of 5) were for poor responsiveness and customer service. Not product features, not product cost, and not reliability ... but for bad communication and apparent lack of care. Dave AB7E owner of a K1, K3, and KX2 On 10/8/2022 8:54 AM, Rick NK7I wrote: This is well beyond tiresome now. They HAVE stated the situation via email, to the group(s) recently. Lack of attention by the reader/s is NOT their fault. They won't take the time for personal hand holding, that time is better spent assembling and shipping what product they can move. They can't sell what they can't get. The last order THEY got was sub-standard, sent back to await a new shipment (a few weeks ago). ALL shipments of ANY type have been tediously slow, worldwide. A month setback creates a year of backlog; the entire world was shut down for over 2 YEARS. It will take a decade or more to get back on track as we know it. Normal doesn't exist anymore. If you NEED a mic, get another until the one you want (and ordered and paid for) is eventually available. The rest, is noise and whining, showing complete lack of understanding and patience. Let's END this thread. 73, Rick nk7i On 10/8/2022 8:22 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: Dave/AB7E seems to understand the point 100% correctly and a lot of you are twisting my (and others) words. The point is not that I don't have a microphone or that I couldn't cobble together a connector for from another brand of mic. I could even (I suppose) find an alternate on Amazon or somewhere (should I have to buy another mic?) The point is, almost a year ago I purchased a KX2-shack-in-a-box kit and it came without a mic (it was purchased and paid for as part of that kit) and I had to inform Elecraft once it arrived that I was shorted a mic.) Nothing in the paperwork nor any communication before it arrived stated it would be arriving w/o a MH3 mic, so this was a surprise. I even have an email from Wayne from January 10th,2022 that states (in part) ".We should have MH3s back in stock in several weeks. Will that suffice?..." It's a long way from early December 2021 when I finally was invoiced (after I submitted my purchase request in October or November) 2021 and finally paid for my KX2 shack-in-a-box kit (which I love by the way_) (or even Jan 10th, 2021_) All I am saying is..there has been zero communication like "we know we owe you a microphone and when we get them you'll be on the top of the list when we get them.) ZERO. All I have is a couple (now very old) emails from Wayne from early January that "it must have be an oversight" (which I accept; Hey - nobody's or any company is perfect) I get it. I accept the oversight. I accept the backorder. I check the Elecraft site for shipping status. I know they don't have them. I deal with electronic parts and service over 11,000 devices as part of my everyday job. I communicate with my "customers" Do I know that THEY know I am owed one? Well, not really. I have (now old) emails from January from Wayne-that's it. I know he has much bigger fish to fry than some mic for a New Brunswicker on the other side of the continent. I know it won't be Wayne that (hopefully) eventually boxes up and ships me a mic. It's whoever keeps track of old, long since departed orders. If I am going to wait nearly a year (or maybe more), it might've been nice to get an email every 4-5 months from a shipping/receiving/purchasing/billing dept staff member saying "we haven't forgot about you". As of now, myself and all others that I've been in touch with(on this particular issue), have rec'd nothing. We don't know if: The person boxing up the KX2 kits didn't know there was supposed to be a mic included or They boxed up the kits anyways to get 95% of the product out the door to waiting customers or Even if they
Re: [Elecraft] communications on KX2 Mic's (MH3)
This is well beyond tiresome now. They HAVE stated the situation via email, to the group(s) recently. Lack of attention by the reader/s is NOT their fault. They won't take the time for personal hand holding, that time is better spent assembling and shipping what product they can move. They can't sell what they can't get. The last order THEY got was sub-standard, sent back to await a new shipment (a few weeks ago). ALL shipments of ANY type have been tediously slow, worldwide. A month setback creates a year of backlog; the entire world was shut down for over 2 YEARS. It will take a decade or more to get back on track as we know it. Normal doesn't exist anymore. If you NEED a mic, get another until the one you want (and ordered and paid for) is eventually available. The rest, is noise and whining, showing complete lack of understanding and patience. Let's END this thread. 73, Rick nk7i On 10/8/2022 8:22 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: Dave/AB7E seems to understand the point 100% correctly and a lot of you are twisting my (and others) words. The point is not that I don't have a microphone or that I couldn't cobble together a connector for from another brand of mic. I could even (I suppose) find an alternate on Amazon or somewhere (should I have to buy another mic?) The point is, almost a year ago I purchased a KX2-shack-in-a-box kit and it came without a mic (it was purchased and paid for as part of that kit) and I had to inform Elecraft once it arrived that I was shorted a mic.) Nothing in the paperwork nor any communication before it arrived stated it would be arriving w/o a MH3 mic, so this was a surprise. I even have an email from Wayne from January 10th,2022 that states (in part) ".We should have MH3s back in stock in several weeks. Will that suffice?..." It's a long way from early December 2021 when I finally was invoiced (after I submitted my purchase request in October or November) 2021 and finally paid for my KX2 shack-in-a-box kit (which I love by the way_) (or even Jan 10th, 2021_) All I am saying is..there has been zero communication like "we know we owe you a microphone and when we get them you'll be on the top of the list when we get them.) ZERO. All I have is a couple (now very old) emails from Wayne from early January that "it must have be an oversight" (which I accept; Hey - nobody's or any company is perfect) I get it. I accept the oversight. I accept the backorder. I check the Elecraft site for shipping status. I know they don't have them. I deal with electronic parts and service over 11,000 devices as part of my everyday job. I communicate with my "customers" Do I know that THEY know I am owed one? Well, not really. I have (now old) emails from January from Wayne-that's it. I know he has much bigger fish to fry than some mic for a New Brunswicker on the other side of the continent. I know it won't be Wayne that (hopefully) eventually boxes up and ships me a mic. It's whoever keeps track of old, long since departed orders. If I am going to wait nearly a year (or maybe more), it might've been nice to get an email every 4-5 months from a shipping/receiving/purchasing/billing dept staff member saying "we haven't forgot about you". As of now, myself and all others that I've been in touch with(on this particular issue), have rec'd nothing. We don't know if: The person boxing up the KX2 kits didn't know there was supposed to be a mic included or They boxed up the kits anyways to get 95% of the product out the door to waiting customers or Even if they have record of the folks who have complete kits vs kits missing mics. or Something else. We just don't know. Communications have been non existent from the shipping dept (ever) and none since Jan 10th . 2021 (from Wayne himself, who seems quite knowledgeable and friendly btw) Sincerely, Mike VE9AA Oh, and lest anyone think I am mad. No , I am not mad. Overall I am very happy with my $10k+ worth of Elecraft products. It just doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling to maybe order a K4HD (or two for SO2R) when the time comes. == That isn't the point at all, it isn't what I said, and you know it. I simply believe that the folks who have paid for stuff many months ago should be kept regularly informed ... directly, not via word of mouth. It's not expensive for Elecraft to do so. They just have to care a bit more. They know exactly what the status of everything is at any point in time. Dave AB7E On 10/7/2022 12:43 PM, Richard Hill wrote: I understood that ordered microphone parts were substandard when delivered and new parts had to be sourced, delaying production. Would you have preferred they delayed shipping the shack in a box until the mics were available? NU6T On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 12:12 PM David Gilbert wrote:
Re: [Elecraft] Now: communications; Was: KPA1500 Amplifiers are now shipping from Stock
It would be in the archives. Search for Eric, I'm pretty sure he was the one to write the post, no clue what the header (topic) was. He's not a prolific writer (of email, hi hi) so the search shouldn't take long. 73, Rick NK7I On 10/7/2022 6:53 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: I guess I have not been paying attention to the list and I missed this official update. Do you have a link to this post? I just searched the archives and can only find the May 2, 2022 post by WA6HHQ that was in my link below. John KK9A Rick NK7I wrote: Then you haven't paid attention to this list. The last comment from Elecraft was a couple weeks ago on this very topic. Some parts are in, others are not; it's SLOWLY coming together for the build. Although in fairness, it might have been under a header that didn't show the actual content, like this one, now changed. 73, Rick nk7i On 10/7/2022 11:35 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: The last update was 21 1/2 weeks ago: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2022-May/289523.html According to that post everyone in groups 1 through 4 should have received their product by now. I am still waiting. John KK9A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Now: communications; Was: KPA1500 Amplifiers are now shipping from Stock
Then you haven't paid attention to this list. The last comment from Elecraft was a couple weeks ago on this very topic. Some parts are in, others are not; it's SLOWLY coming together for the build. Although in fairness, it might have been under a header that didn't show the actual content, like this one, now changed. 73, Rick nk7i On 10/7/2022 11:35 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: The last update was 21 1/2 weeks ago: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2022-May/289523.html According to that post everyone in groups 1 through 4 should have received their product by now. I am still waiting. John KK9A n6lrv wrote: Thank Eric. How about an update on the K3 upgrade kits? It's been quite a while since your last update on that subject. 73, Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question
It is, here. The device being commented on, should be part of the header when a thread is started so folks can read it or skip it. But it's MUCH nicer to have separate groups for each item. One may not have a KX2, KAT500 or other Elecraft device and the often numerous and ponderously long threads can add up to a LOT of email to be deleted. Being a member of the specific device lists, limits that and the email noise floor. Being on a targeted list improves the chances of getting an accurate answer or solution. Having a varied interest in many things, I get a low of 50 emails a day, sometimes peaking near 300 per day or more. By limiting to the specific groups of interest I find I can manage it better and when it gets too noisy on a topic, I can drop out of that thread (if the list is on groups.io, most of mine are). Thankfully the lists don't 'blow up' often so the daily average is under 100 most times. Almost ALL of them are quickly deleted, less than 5% are answered and under 1% get saved for future reference (that's what archive diving is all about). 73, Rick nk7i On 10/2/2022 12:38 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: It would be so nice if everything Elecraft related was in a single list. John KK9A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini
Actually, I've run YCCC SO2R Box and SO2R Box Utility on Win 11 ARM Preview under Parallels Desktop on a Macbook Pro M1 Max without recompilation. They talk politely to the hardware across a USB connection. However, they expect two pairs of virtual COM ports to communicate with the logger (N1MM in my case) via OTRSP. My old standbys, vspMgr and COM0COM, do not work in that environment. However, Eltima has a Virtual Serial Port Driver in an ARM version that works very simply and cleanly. 73, /Rick N6XI On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:08 PM Barry Baines via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > That said, there is one caveat: Windows ARM does not currently support > natively USB devices other than such as items as Keyboards, Mice, > Trackballs, etc. For example, I cannot run a SDR device on the ARM because > the device drivers don’t exist under ARM needed for SDR: I use ZADIG to > add drivers for SDR and it doesn’t work running Windows 11 ARM. > > I suspect that USB support for ARM will grow under time, but it remains to > be seen whether software that uses USB attached devices that require > special device drivers will work. In my case, this means using data > sources available via the internet rather than using a SDR device for > over-the-air reception of data. For example, I can use data collected via > SDR attached to my Dell laptop and feed that data to Apple MBP M1 laptop > running Windows 11 ARM via LAN to display the data. > > -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply (remote)
I leave my KPA1500 PS on continuously, whether I'm local or remote. No observed ill effects. When the amp is off, the PS is silent. I haven't measured its current drain in that condition but I expect it is minimal. I have a remote relay box that I could use to key a larger relay in the 230V AC supply line but I don't see any need to do that. 73, /Rick N6XI On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:30 AM Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > Hello! > > when you use the KPA1500 remotely, the power is always on. With which it > could spend several years on continuously. Could this be harmful to > the power supply? > > Is it thought and designed to withstand this? > > Is there a way to turn the power on and off remotely? > > thanks! > > -- > 73, > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX2
New in bag from Elecraft. KX2 with autotuner n...@icloud.com Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ham Qualifications, Customer Service
What do you mean, David? The K3 had a nearly 15 year run as Elecraft's flagship transceiver and is still being serviced within the limits of parts availability. K3S was a mid-life update, not a new design. It had a few revised boards and they were available to retrofit to the earlier K3 units. Other updated boards came along prior to K3S and were also retrofittable. In my 60+ years of ham radio, the K3 stands out as the longest-living, most modular, most upgradeable radio of all, by a wide margin. I have no reason to expect anything less of K4. 73, /Rick N6XI On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 8:08 PM David Gilbert wrote: > > > I remember that exact same statement being made about the K3 and K3s > (discontinued after 6 years). Other than the new synths, it wasn't > honored for the K3 series so I see no reason to treat that as part of > the value proposition for the K4. > > > On 6/27/2022 5:32 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > > > - The K4 is designed in highly modular fashion so we can replace modules > in the future as technology changes, including the main processor board, > ADC boards, and DAC board. > > > > > > > > Wayne > > N6KR > > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Friedrichshafen
Or making amends... May be an image of 4 people, people standing and text that says 'Flex 6700 FlexRadio FlexRadio' 73, Rick NK7I On 6/27/2022 10:23 AM, Stephen Craven wrote: Good time, now for sight seeing !! Steve N9SC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8
Hi Bob, That almost has to be your set up (which radio?) to see so many issues; over driven rx signal and/or audio levels, and/or the NB on with a harsh setting. I watched a little on HF over FD and didn't see any issues other than crowding more than usual (40 looked like 20). There is the occasional errant user but they don't make contacts either, thankfully so they don't hang out long. 73, Rick NK7I On 6/26/2022 12:26 PM, Bob McGraw wrote: I operated FD from here at the house this weekend. Most all of my FT-8 contacts were on 6M. I was appalled at the poor quality of many signals. Many show spurious every 1 kHz to 2 kHz either side of their primary signal. Several were noted to be bands of noise on the order of 2 kHz to 3 kHz wide. What gives with hams and their pride for good quality signals? Bottom line..this is poor operating and technical practice. Just because it was Field Day, that is no excuse either. Have the masses digressed to this level of non technical expertise? It sure seems so. Then I was off to 80M and 40M for a few FT-8 contacts. No different. WOW! This is all very disappointing. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using KPA1500 with Flex6600
KPA1500 Remote works fine as a local control program. Use the Local Connect option. /Rick N6XI On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 2:29 AM Ray Spreadbury via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > ... > Is there software available for controlling the KPA1500 on my Windows PC > as I would like to locate the amp below my operating desk? I suspect I can > do this using the KPA1500 Utility program but wondered if there is a better > method or 3rd party software for this purpose? > 73 > Ray G3XLG > > -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mac Logging Software
I'll second the nomination of RUMlog for general QSO logging on a Mac. I don't care for the contest section but I haven't really spent enough time with it for my observations to be definitive. It does not appear to support SO2R or SO2V and doesn't have nearly the configurability of N1MM, my preferred contest logger. But for general QSOs, RUMlog has everything I might ask for, much better than limping along with a contest logger. 73, /Rick N6XI On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 5:04 AM Richard wrote: > I’m looking for a simple basic logging program for the Mac, preferably one > that I can tailor to my needs, one that would be good for SSB contacts. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks. > > Richard Kunc > W4KBX > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Have a K-2 SN 01049
I had an early K2, reviewed it for NCJ, loved it for a long time, then got an early K3. Instead of trying to sell an old, low-value K2, I gave it to a friend who gave it to a beginner he was mentoring. I felt that was a good home for it and a good use for a radio I no longer needed. Consider this, folks - helping a beginner with a radio might be the best thing you can do for ham radio. Just don't give away a lemon, or a rig that isn't up to spec, to a beginner who might not know what to do about it. Any give-away rig should be accompanied by a squawk list and advice on how to proceed! 73, /Rick N6XI 73, /Rick N6XI On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 1:13 AM Dave wrote: > Tim mentioned “A local here has a loaded K2/100 that he's been trying to > sell for > > a while but has only received what he perceives as low offers” > > > Bear in mind the K2 has been around for over 20 years, and was built > from a kit by hams with variable degrees of soldering skills and had > quite a few modifications since the early ones were produced. > > > My K2 has given me good service, but I cannot remember the last time > it was used, I built in around 2001. Even with its A to B mods, > upgraded SSB filter crystals, ATU, 160m and DSP board, I wouldn’t > expect it to fetch over $400. > > > 73 Dave G4AON > > -- > Sent from my iPhone SE > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 reduces power as it gets warmer?
Yes, the KPA1500 will drop 10% of the output, as it warms up. 1500 drops to 1350, so you have to compensate with the drive. I'm told this is typical of all solid state finals (my KPA500 did likewise). If you're running the station remotely; bump up the fan speed to slow the drop (or wear cans). 73, Rick NK7I On 6/3/2022 9:22 PM, David F. Reed wrote: I note my KPA1500 drops power at its temperature rises... Using FT8, so a relatively high duty cycle. Say I start at a heat sink temperature of 27 C, and 1,000 watts out; by the time the temperature is at 65 C, the power has dropped to 893 watts out. I have a couple of questions about this (not a complaint by the way): 1. Does anyone else experience this? 2. Is it normal? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New K4 Beta Software Available (Release 30/Beta 2)
:-) You CS majors will recall that you can prove that no significant program can be proven to be correct for all inputs and conditions. /Rick N6XI On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 12:44 AM Walter Underwood wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2022, at 7:30 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > > > "There's always another bug," to quote an anonymous sage, but > please...go for it. We'd love to get hundreds of K4s going on this new > release, and hopefully promote it to full production status next week. > > Q: What does it mean when the Python test suite passes? > A: It means the test suite is incomplete. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood MC-60 Mic with a K3?
Or leave everything as it was made, with no adapter, no modification; put a battery into the base of the MC-60A, turn the mic pre-amp on (in) and set the K3/K4 as needed with no bias. The battery lasts for years; it's fast and simple to set up the radio or replace a battery. And you never have to remember what was done to the mic (because nothing was). Simplest is often best. 73, Rick NK7I On 5/17/2022 1:53 PM, Ken Winterling wrote: Option "D") Make an adapter that swaps the leads so you can use the unmodified MC-60 on the Elecraft. I prefer to make adapters for my rigs so I can use (almost) any mic I have on (almost) any rig I have. 73, *Ken* *WA2LBI* On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 4:46 PM Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2022-05-17 1:19 PM, Eric Fitzgerald wrote: > > Can you use a Kenwood MC-60 desktop mic with an Elecraft K3? If you have an MC-60 (not MC-60A), you can use it "as is". The only difference is that Elecraft and Kenwood reverse pins 5 and 6. Pin 5 is +8V for Kenwood, Pin 6 is +5V for Elecraft. If you have the "non 'A'" version of the MC-50 or MC-60, pins 5 and 6 are not used. If you have the "A" versions pin 5 is used to power the preamp in the base of the mic. If you have the "A" versions you will need to do one of the following: A) swap pins 5/6 in the Foster plug on one end of the coiled cord B) move the wire from pin 5 to pin 6 on the 8 pin jack where the coiled cord (PG-4C) connects on the base of the mic C) leave the preamplifier (mic amp) switch in the "out" position. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2022-05-17 1:19 PM, Eric Fitzgerald wrote: Hello Wise and Powerful Reflector; Can you use a Kenwood MC-60 desktop mic with an Elecraft K3? I seem to recall the front panel jack is the same pin configuration as a Kenwood. TIA Eric KG6MZS www.kg6mzs.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered towa2...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered torick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Antenna Book (and other antenna books)
I used an online question site for my Extra Class study years ago and this site showed which questions I missed. I used my Handbook and Antenna book to study up on the questions I missed or was unsure of. Without them I would still be guessing and not know a darn thing. Two best investments I ever made in Amateur Radio. Even if you can only get an old book , it is still probably 90% revelent. Newer books will cover newer digital comms. On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 2:27 AM Walter Underwood wrote: > > On May 11, 2022, at 10:40 PM, Jim Brown > wrote: > > > > And I agree with W4TV about the usefulness of the Antenna Book. I > contribute both to it and to the Handbook. These three ARRL books have been > central to my learning, in some ways, at least as important as my EE > education. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > I changed the subject line because this has dritted away from the dipole > quandry. > > The ARRL Antenna Book is a rare kind of technical writing that works for > many different levels of expertise. I learned things from it when I was 14 > and I’ve learned things from it when I was 65. To be fair, I was a 14 year > old who got a slide rule for Christmas. Now I’m a 65 year old with a BSEE. > I can’t think of another technical book that works from 8th grade to > post-grad. Maybe the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. > > The ON4UN book is also excellent. The only similarly detailed discussion > of radial systems seems to be in some AM broadcast manual that costs > hundreds of dollars. > > The only topic not covered in those two books is grounding and bonding, > which is covered in the also excellent ARRL Grounding and Bonding for the > Radio Amateur. Yeah, the ARRL does not do creative book titles. > > I guess I should get a current Handbook. I wore out my 1970 edition. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rickw...@gmail.com -- Rick Genesis 1-29 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up)
I use a major company (Visa/AmEx/MC) credit card as my PayPal go to 'bank' for the PayPal account. That way I get the ease and means to buy with PayPal (and not go get my wallet to dig out the card) when other means are not available (or shuffle funds to individuals as needed). PayPal immediately hits the credit card but if there is a conflict I file the complaint with PayPal first, then immediately with the credit card company to refuse the charge. This has worked very well the few times I had issues with an order(about once every 3-4 years). The CC company does an immediate refund to my account, while investigating and I let the two of them duke it out. The might (and lawyers) of the CC company is much more power than any individual can muster, PayPal usually 'expedites' their efforts to resolve the issue. In the meantime, I have my spending power returned. There is no hit to the credit rating, you are using the (local, state, Fed and international) law and the CC company policies, in your favor (PayPal can whine, but they have no power). This method means the end buyer (us) has less to worry about. PayPal will cry foul (but wait! We'll fix this!) if you tell them you're refusing the charge. They have no useful legal recourse if you made the charge in good faith and they won't take the time (spend money on lawyers) to argue. Their only recourse is to close your PayPal account, but that requires 'cause' (or they run afoul of the CC laws). So don't tell them and be more careful when you use PayPal. They are bound by the same CC laws but expect the buyer to be ignorant of that. Become an informed consumer; use the CC protection laws, in your favor when there is an issue. Now if someone could explain (and make sense of) why it takes moments to make a charge, but 8-10 working days (weeks) to reverse that charge using the same network system; they'd be a hero. It simply defies logic. 73, Rick NK7I On 5/8/2022 7:17 AM, George Thornton wrote: I had a situation with a frankly fraudulent internet vendor that was claiming discount prices on a name brand product. The web page looked identical to the official company in design and appeared to be an outlet for the company. I placed a small order as a test but then changed my mind within an hour after reading up on problems. I tried to cancel the order with the company but of course they did not respond and claimed to have shipped. I of course never got anything. I went to Paypal who of course paid the company. I kept crying fraud and after a couple months of back and forth nonsense and my persistence they finally refunded. I agree Paypal offers no protection for the most blatantly fraudulent transactions. They are almost complicit in the fraud from their side because they could easily see a pattern of activity Their own inaction under these circumstances almost makes them complicit in the fraud itself. -Original Message- From:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.netOn Behalf Of Frank Krozel Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2022 4:55 AM To: David Deelstra Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PayPal holding payment. (Follow up) And don't be surprised when you get a 1099 from PayPal! -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com On May 7, 2022, at 10:23 PM, David Deelstra wrote: After a rabbit hole trip through PayPal's endless loop "customer service" pages, I stumbled on a page that asked what help I needed. I kept entering "Notice of Delivery". When it ran out of questions and options, finally I was presented with a page with a 6 digit number on a black background, below which was a phone number. I called, got instructions on what to do, spent the next ten minutes listening to the pages (verbatim) I had spent the last three hours digging through. Finally I was asked for the six digit pass code then sat through another eternity on hold finally answered by a human sounding voice. I explained that I had been trying to find a way to send them Proof of Delivery. She said PayPal already had POD and that my buyer only had to log in to his account, go to Activity, scroll down to the item and click to release payment. None of this was transmitted to me or the buyer by PayPal or shown on their "Help" pages. I contacted the buyer, he followed up, and within minutes the subject "Your money is available" appeared in my in box. I hope this helps others avoid similar problems. I intend to call my credit union's customer service and see what I can do to (legally and safely, for both parties) transfer funds for goods and services. Maybe VISA would be willing to offer such a service, or the shipping companies? How 'bout it UPS? 73, Dave N7ISH -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth
