Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
On 6/4/2012 8:39 AM, John Shadle wrote: > Hi Terry, > I have been using N3FJP's AC Log for a while, both with my K2 and now > my K3. I haven't had any trouble at all with DX spotting and clicking > on a spot to do a frequency change with either rig. I can take a look > at my settings if you like. > > So, basically, clicking on a spot doesn't work? You're getting the > wrong mode and even frequency? That's strange... > > N3FJP recently updated AC Log and it's a much improved program. It's > now at version 3.2 (although I have only upgraded to 3.1 so far, > myself). If you purchased it in the past, you're entitled to a free > upgrade. > > It might be best to try to post your question to the AC Log list, too. > I've found Scott and the rest of the list members invaluable in > setting up the software. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N3FJP_Software_Users/ > > 73 > -john W4PAH > Madison, WI > >> If anyone has been successful in finding a way to send DX spot rig command >> strings *smoothly* from N3FJP's ACLog to a K3, would you please email me >> with the software settings you've used. I have not been able to get ACLog >> to interface well with my K3 (#474) since I bought the rig (the software >> worked fine with my FT1000MP). The software reads the K3 data just fine. >> But DX spot clicks seem to go very slowly and the mode, band and frequency >> changes seem to be all mixed up. Scott, N3FJP, told me that Elecraft sends >> the commands to the K3 in a "non-standard" format but claims to "generally >> support" the Elecraft line. The command string references I have found in >> the K3 manual have not been successful, but I don't rule out an error on my >> part there. >> >> Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog >> command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular >> logging/rig control offerings that many of you use. Most programs offer WAY >> too many features for my needs. Many thanks. >> >> 73, >> >> Terry, W0FM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htm Terry- I have been using ACLog with my k3 for a couple of years now and have no problem with it. When I click on a dx spot it goes right to the freq. These are my setting: com port 1 Baud Rate 38.4 Parity-DTR Radio Polling rate 500ms I am using verison 3.0 on ACLog. I did not know they had an upgrade out. But will go and download it soon. Hope this helps. John-KM5PS k3 #3906 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Thanks to everyone who took the time to post some positive thoughts on the N3FJP software suite. I see that I should have added some parameters initially. I'm a casual operator and contester due to using QRP power levels for the most part, and simple antennas. About the only time that I operate with a group is Field Day, so I can find out what logging software that the group uses in advance and be sure that I know how to use it. I also don't do spotting - DX or otherwise. That seemed to be the only limitation that I saw mentioned. 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW On 6/3/2012 5:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across > these comments. > I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests > and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties. > > Anyone have anything good to say about the software? Alternatives with > the same capabilities? > > 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW > > On 6/3/2012 9:30 AM, Charles Johnson wrote: >> I second that opinion. Worst software I actually paid good money for. >> >> 73, Charlie, K4ZRJ >> >> On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, David Gilbert wrote: >> >>> Most of those other programs actually work, though. >>> >>> Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular and easily >>> tailored to be as simple as you want them to be. And did I mention that >>> they actually work like they're supposed to? I was a registered user of >>> ACLog for a while but got fed up with it's faults and shortcomings, got >>> tired of N3FJP's excuses for the problems that other programs didn't >>> have, and abandoned it long ago. I realize you don't intend to do that, >>> but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound. >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave AB7E >>> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Let's end this thread for now in the interest of reducing list email overload other readers. 73, Eric List moderator --- www.elecraft.com On 6/4/2012 12:27 PM, Arthur Burke wrote: > Agree all the way. For daily logging and superb tracking (there are gobs of > awards that can be tracked and user-defined fields if you need even more), > I also have used DXLabs for quite some time (five or six years). There *is* > somewhat of a learning curve. The author of the suite (who also co-hosts an > excellent forum) recommends learning a specific piece, then learning > another one and so forth. > > If you're only interested in single-op situations, N1MM is also free and is > pretty easy to set up. If you want to get involved in multi-rig or multi-op > situations, it can be somewhat more complex. In either case, the N1MM forum > has participation from the authors and is very, very well supported. > > Art - N4PJ > > > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Kevin wrote: > >> Depends what you want in a logging application. >> If you're just interested in electronic logging and don't want rig >> control it's just fine. >> >> If you want rig control, real time spotting network integration, >> flexible award handling and tracking including log database sorting, >> integration of LoTW and eQSL, ADIF and Cabrillo import and export, etc, >> etc, etc... Look elsewhere. >> >> I use the DX Lab Suite. It's free (I'm cheap) for general logging and >> N1MM, also free, for contesting. >> Others will sing the praises of Ham Radio Deluxe but it's free days are >> numbered if not over and it sometimes sucks the very life out of your >> computer (a little buggy). >> Still others like Logger32. >> >> If DX Lab wasn't free I'd pay for it. >> >> >> On 06/03/2012 07:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: >>> I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across >>> these comments. >>> I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests >>> and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties. >>> >>> Anyone have anything good to say about the software? Alternatives with >>> the same capabilities? >>> >>> 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Agree all the way. For daily logging and superb tracking (there are gobs of awards that can be tracked and user-defined fields if you need even more), I also have used DXLabs for quite some time (five or six years). There *is* somewhat of a learning curve. The author of the suite (who also co-hosts an excellent forum) recommends learning a specific piece, then learning another one and so forth. If you're only interested in single-op situations, N1MM is also free and is pretty easy to set up. If you want to get involved in multi-rig or multi-op situations, it can be somewhat more complex. In either case, the N1MM forum has participation from the authors and is very, very well supported. Art - N4PJ On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Kevin wrote: > Depends what you want in a logging application. > If you're just interested in electronic logging and don't want rig > control it's just fine. > > If you want rig control, real time spotting network integration, > flexible award handling and tracking including log database sorting, > integration of LoTW and eQSL, ADIF and Cabrillo import and export, etc, > etc, etc... Look elsewhere. > > I use the DX Lab Suite. It's free (I'm cheap) for general logging and > N1MM, also free, for contesting. > Others will sing the praises of Ham Radio Deluxe but it's free days are > numbered if not over and it sometimes sucks the very life out of your > computer (a little buggy). > Still others like Logger32. > > If DX Lab wasn't free I'd pay for it. > > > On 06/03/2012 07:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > > I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across > > these comments. > > I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests > > and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties. > > > > Anyone have anything good to say about the software? Alternatives with > > the same capabilities? > > > > 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
* On 2012 04 Jun 11:45 -0500, Willis wrote: > If you are using a USB converter rather than a rs-232 connection it may be > your problem as many of the USB converters do not give you a full featured > connection. All that is needed for K3 control are TXD, RXD, and Ground. DTR and RTS are used for PTT and Key-in (see page 18 of the manual), not serial communications. The problem, as described earlier, is that the program is setting the mode first and then the frequency. I've asked other program authors to reverse those two commands and they have willingly complied. The sequence is important on the K3 as mode is retained on a per band/VFO basis and it acts on commands as autonomous units. To me it seems as though setting the freq first and then the mode should be the proper sequence for all rigs, not just the K3. Perhaps programs should be smarter (and some likely are) where after changing the frequency the mode is polled and then changed only if necessary. The only problem with USB to serial adapters when controlling the K3 is apparently with drivers on certain legacy operating systems. I've used a couple of Prolific based converters on my Linux machines with nary an issue. Sent from my Linux computer! 73, de Nate, N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
If you are using a USB converter rather than a rs-232 connection it may be your problem as many of the USB converters do not give you a full featured connection. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:13, Terry Schieler wrote: > David, > > Your comments about the ease of use of the ACLog program for "casual" users > is EXACTLY why I was hoping to find a fix for the DX spotting issue I have > with ACLog and my K3. I didn't want to give up the simplicity of ACLog, but > had hoped to make it work *fully* with the K3. It does everything I need > (and intuitively) except a smooth spot. I am resistant to change with > something I've used for so many years. But, I guess one can't have > everything. > > Terry, W0FM > > > -Original Message- > From: David Inger [mailto:ingerassocia...@cox.net] > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:58 AM > To: jmlow...@sbcglobal.net > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings? > > Hi Jim, > > I have been using ACLog for about 2 years now. I find it simple, easy to > use, and without a lot of complex features that are of no value...to me. I > am a DX'er and an extremely casual contester (for the DX value). ACLog > reports K3's band and exact frequency; which is all I really want it to do > for logging purposes. I don't use it to control a rotator (since my wire > antennas and vertical don't need rotators!) and I don't use it to report DX > spots; I use the standalone DX cluster program DX Summit for that. I also > find the program easy to use for my LoTW uploads. > > I have tried several other logging programs such as logger32, Ham Radio > Deluxe (which I use for general rig control and digimodes), DX Keeper, etc. > I find them all too bloated with features I have no use for, and which > require a learning curve that I don't have the time for. One good thing > about ACLog (which is true of many logging programs) is that it will export > your log in ADIF format. If you chose to switch to another logger, it is > relatively painless to export from ACLog and import into your new logger of > choice. > > These are my experiences for what it's worth. > > 73 de K6SBA > David in Santa Barbara > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
David, Your comments about the ease of use of the ACLog program for "casual" users is EXACTLY why I was hoping to find a fix for the DX spotting issue I have with ACLog and my K3. I didn't want to give up the simplicity of ACLog, but had hoped to make it work *fully* with the K3. It does everything I need (and intuitively) except a smooth spot. I am resistant to change with something I've used for so many years. But, I guess one can't have everything. Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: David Inger [mailto:ingerassocia...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:58 AM To: jmlow...@sbcglobal.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings? Hi Jim, I have been using ACLog for about 2 years now. I find it simple, easy to use, and without a lot of complex features that are of no value...to me. I am a DX'er and an extremely casual contester (for the DX value). ACLog reports K3's band and exact frequency; which is all I really want it to do for logging purposes. I don't use it to control a rotator (since my wire antennas and vertical don't need rotators!) and I don't use it to report DX spots; I use the standalone DX cluster program DX Summit for that. I also find the program easy to use for my LoTW uploads. I have tried several other logging programs such as logger32, Ham Radio Deluxe (which I use for general rig control and digimodes), DX Keeper, etc. I find them all too bloated with features I have no use for, and which require a learning curve that I don't have the time for. One good thing about ACLog (which is true of many logging programs) is that it will export your log in ADIF format. If you chose to switch to another logger, it is relatively painless to export from ACLog and import into your new logger of choice. These are my experiences for what it's worth. 73 de K6SBA David in Santa Barbara __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Hi Jim, I have been using ACLog for about 2 years now. I find it simple, easy to use, and without a lot of complex features that are of no value...to me. I am a DX'er and an extremely casual contester (for the DX value). ACLog reports K3's band and exact frequency; which is all I really want it to do for logging purposes. I don't use it to control a rotator (since my wire antennas and vertical don't need rotators!) and I don't use it to report DX spots; I use the standalone DX cluster program DX Summit for that. I also find the program easy to use for my LoTW uploads. I have tried several other logging programs such as logger32, Ham Radio Deluxe (which I use for general rig control and digimodes), DX Keeper, etc. I find them all too bloated with features I have no use for, and which require a learning curve that I don't have the time for. One good thing about ACLog (which is true of many logging programs) is that it will export your log in ADIF format. If you chose to switch to another logger, it is relatively painless to export from ACLog and import into your new logger of choice. These are my experiences for what it's worth. 73 de K6SBA David in Santa Barbara __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
I will say something "nice" about ACLog/N3FJP. For a casual operator, its probably the best log package out there for all its capabilities. It will take a while to outgrow and a while to find all its "compromises". But it does a lot with a rather flat learning curve. Its the most powerful casual operator log around! I have been a user since version 2, which I paid a whopping $20 for. Every update to date has been free. You load it, and you instinctively know what to do... It looks like a cross between a paper log and an Excel spreadsheet. Scott has done a great job of documenting functions within the program itself. Add to this the simplicity of use, and you dont even need a help file or a manual to do any of the everyday logging chores that a casual operator might want to do. The ACLog LoTW integration is paperclip simple and hockey puck reliable. One button does it all! An earlier thread spoke about LOGic 8/9. Most of my local friends have this $125 software along with their IC7800'ds and PW-1's. Setting aside that Logic is written in FoxPro, a DBMS that has been obsolete for almost 10 years now, a casual operator can do 95% of what Logic can do on ACLog for $100 less, much in the same way that I can hear and work anything my 7800/PW1 owning friends can hear and work on my K3/P3/ALS600 rig for $9,000 less than their huge Icom rigs can, given equivalent aluminum, and I can "take it with me" in a 9.5lb portable package that I can lift to and from my desk alone. My club also purchased Logic for, frankly, no other reason than because "it is the best" as advised by the above 7800 owners. It has trouble dealing with multiple users on multiple computers (a probable limitation in the FoxPro tuple locking code, in my professional opinion, Dennis has had to make several workaround to it with some success, but its still not working well). This has been so much of a pain that we have dispensed with trying to run it on all 5 logging computers and run N1MM on 4 of them, exporting ADIF logs to Logic for upload to LoTW. And even that could be covered by ACLog, however, Logic is "paid for" and the QSL manager likes it, and I dont need another job to do at the club, so I let sleeping dogs lie :) Does ACLog have limitations? For more "advanced" users, certainly. It did have issues with rig control of K3, mostly when clicking on a spot; it didnt deal with mode settings correctly. I hear that has been fixed with V3.2, but I still have 3.0 installed. Even with V3.0, how hard is it to reach up and hit the MODE button every once in a while when ACLog fails to correctly deal with the mode switch from a spot? Do I still use ACLog? No, I outgrew it when I moved to an SO2R capable station configuration. I use Logger32 now because, even with its own variable limitations, I like the look of it (it resembles N1MM, which I use for contesting) and the bandmap and the included world maps and its ability to deal with two rigs (one at a time; ACLog is not SO2R capable in ANY situaton). But admittedly, it is a complex software package that has a learning curve. I dont use a lot of its capability, but what I do use I now feel comfortable with. It also has integrated RTTY, something ACLog does not have (you can add the K7RE plug in, but its a bit clunky). DXLabs, which I have also installed, is complex as well, but works wonderfully in SO2R and does just about anything... But I dont like the looks of it and I dont like how much screen realestate it wants to look "right" for me. It, too, has a steep learning curve, and I would rather spend my time operating than configuring software... I do enough of that at work. For a casual operator, its hard to beat ACLog. It grows on you with its elegant simplicity (much like a K1 does!) and is really simple to deal with. I've yet to find a better LoTW implementation than the drop dead simple one Scott created for ACLog... So much so that I currently export my Logger32 LoTW submissions to ACLog and confirm them using that program instead of bothering with Logger32's LoTW setup. Im not doing that forever though, and as I climb up the Logger32 learning curve, Im sure I will stop. But in retrospect, I do miss the simplicity and efficiency of ACLog. Again, for Casual Operators, the feature set and useability of this package is very hard to beat at any price. I know that Elecraft owners can relate to that paradigm. Lu Romero - W4LT K3/P3/MFJ998/AL600 - The "AL K-Line" ----- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:52:58 -0500 From: Terry Schieler Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings? To: 'David Gilbert' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <6dd19ce6-7067-4088-9bf2-9000755f8...@wirelessusa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, a point to you, Dave. I am not against moving
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Thanks John. It has worked well with my K2 for years and great with my FT-1000MP since 1999. But since day one with the K3 there has been problems with the DX spotting. I asked Scott about it when I built my K3 (#474), he said that it was Elecraft's fault (that the K3 expects the command string in a different format than other radios) and he wasn't going to waste his time trying to figure it out. Others who responded to this post said they got the same answer from Scott and gave up and moved on. The program works fine except for the DX spotting. And, that too, actually works (kinda, eventually). When I click on a DX spot first the MODE changes, which results in a change in received audio (CW to LSB, AM or whatever), then the BAND changes which results in another audible change, and finally, the frequency catches up. This happens in about 1.5 to 2 seconds. The point is, HRD and Logger32, N1MM and others all cause my K3 to quickly and quietly jump to the correct spot. I have upgraded to ACLog 3.2 hoping for a fix but it is no better in this regard. I have double checked the speed, port, parity and stop bit and all is as specified. Your settings from ACLog would be very much appreciated if you find time. Thanks for your response. 73, Terry, WØFM -Original Message- From: John Shadle [mailto:sha...@katzenfisch.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings? Hi Terry, I have been using N3FJP's AC Log for a while, both with my K2 and now my K3. I haven't had any trouble at all with DX spotting and clicking on a spot to do a frequency change with either rig. I can take a look at my settings if you like. So, basically, clicking on a spot doesn't work? You're getting the wrong mode and even frequency? That's strange... N3FJP recently updated AC Log and it's a much improved program. It's now at version 3.2 (although I have only upgraded to 3.1 so far, myself). If you purchased it in the past, you're entitled to a free upgrade. It might be best to try to post your question to the AC Log list, too. I've found Scott and the rest of the list members invaluable in setting up the software. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N3FJP_Software_Users/ 73 -john W4PAH Madison, WI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Hi Terry, I have been using N3FJP's AC Log for a while, both with my K2 and now my K3. I haven't had any trouble at all with DX spotting and clicking on a spot to do a frequency change with either rig. I can take a look at my settings if you like. So, basically, clicking on a spot doesn't work? You're getting the wrong mode and even frequency? That's strange... N3FJP recently updated AC Log and it's a much improved program. It's now at version 3.2 (although I have only upgraded to 3.1 so far, myself). If you purchased it in the past, you're entitled to a free upgrade. It might be best to try to post your question to the AC Log list, too. I've found Scott and the rest of the list members invaluable in setting up the software. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N3FJP_Software_Users/ 73 -john W4PAH Madison, WI > If anyone has been successful in finding a way to send DX spot rig command > strings *smoothly* from N3FJP's ACLog to a K3, would you please email me with > the software settings you've used. I have not been able to get ACLog to > interface well with my K3 (#474) since I bought the rig (the software worked > fine with my FT1000MP). The software reads the K3 data just fine. But DX > spot clicks seem to go very slowly and the mode, band and frequency changes > seem to be all mixed up. Scott, N3FJP, told me that Elecraft sends the > commands to the K3 in a "non-standard" format but claims to "generally > support" the Elecraft line. The command string references I have found in the > K3 manual have not been successful, but I don't rule out an error on my part > there. > > Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog > command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular > logging/rig control offerings that many of you use. Most programs offer WAY > too many features for my needs. Many thanks. > > 73, > > Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Been using the Field Day software with a K-3 connection with no problems for a few years. Might be something to do with the fact that it is running on Win NT! 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
I wanted a logging program that did everything one should and be very customizable and advanced in features. I tried them all free and purchased and after a year made a decision on one that was head and shoulders above the others that being Logic8 now 9. That was 5 years ago and would hate to ever have to change the main reason you have phone and email access to the developer for problems and help if you need it. If you have a problem you can't get resolved yourself he can logon to your computer and work on the program to fix or add whatever needs to be done. He responds in real time and updates come as soon as a problem is found or a new feature needs to be added to the program. It does all of the things named in this thread and adds too them with support for most all contests, QSO parties, Field Day and so on. Award tracking and needed entries by band and mode not confirmed can be setup with voice announce. The best way to check the Best Logger out is go to hosenose.com then go to Logic9 and download a full working version for a 30 day trial and judge for you. A really good logging program is big deals in our shacks now with all they do and even the most costly of them are one of the cheapest things we do in the hobby. So why not choose the best? 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings? Depends what you want in a logging application. If you're just interested in electronic logging and don't want rig control it's just fine. If you want rig control, real time spotting network integration, flexible award handling and tracking including log database sorting, integration of LoTW and eQSL, ADIF and Cabrillo import and export, etc, etc, etc... Look elsewhere. I use the DX Lab Suite. It's free (I'm cheap) for general logging and N1MM, also free, for contesting. Others will sing the praises of Ham Radio Deluxe but it's free days are numbered if not over and it sometimes sucks the very life out of your computer (a little buggy). Still others like Logger32. If DX Lab wasn't free I'd pay for it. On 06/03/2012 07:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran > across these comments. > I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF > contests and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties. > > Anyone have anything good to say about the software? Alternatives > with the same capabilities? > > 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/5043 - Release Date: 06/03/12 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Hands down, N1MM http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php Does everything N3FJP does and much much more. On 6/3/2012 7:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across > these comments. > I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests > and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties. > > Anyone have anything good to say about the software? Alternatives with > the same capabilities? > > 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW > > On 6/3/2012 9:30 AM, Charles Johnson wrote: >> I second that opinion. Worst software I actually paid good money for. >> >> 73, Charlie, K4ZRJ >> >> On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, David Gilbert wrote: >> >>> Most of those other programs actually work, though. >>> >>> Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular and easily >>> tailored to be as simple as you want them to be. And did I mention that >>> they actually work like they're supposed to? I was a registered user of >>> ACLog for a while but got fed up with it's faults and shortcomings, got >>> tired of N3FJP's excuses for the problems that other programs didn't >>> have, and abandoned it long ago. I realize you don't intend to do that, >>> but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound. >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave AB7E >>> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Depends what you want in a logging application. If you're just interested in electronic logging and don't want rig control it's just fine. If you want rig control, real time spotting network integration, flexible award handling and tracking including log database sorting, integration of LoTW and eQSL, ADIF and Cabrillo import and export, etc, etc, etc... Look elsewhere. I use the DX Lab Suite. It's free (I'm cheap) for general logging and N1MM, also free, for contesting. Others will sing the praises of Ham Radio Deluxe but it's free days are numbered if not over and it sometimes sucks the very life out of your computer (a little buggy). Still others like Logger32. If DX Lab wasn't free I'd pay for it. On 06/03/2012 07:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across > these comments. > I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests > and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties. > > Anyone have anything good to say about the software? Alternatives with > the same capabilities? > > 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across these comments. I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties. Anyone have anything good to say about the software? Alternatives with the same capabilities? 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW On 6/3/2012 9:30 AM, Charles Johnson wrote: > I second that opinion. Worst software I actually paid good money for. > > 73, Charlie, K4ZRJ > > On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, David Gilbert wrote: > >> >> Most of those other programs actually work, though. >> >> Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular and easily >> tailored to be as simple as you want them to be. And did I mention that >> they actually work like they're supposed to? I was a registered user of >> ACLog for a while but got fed up with it's faults and shortcomings, got >> tired of N3FJP's excuses for the problems that other programs didn't >> have, and abandoned it long ago. I realize you don't intend to do that, >> but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound. >> >> 73, >> Dave AB7E >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
* On 2012 03 Jun 13:34 -0500, N5GE wrote: > > I've never understood why Yaesu handles command codes the way they do. > > On the other hand long before I got my K3 I was writing radio control > applications (for personal use) for my Kenwood rigs. The Kenwood control > language is easy to work with since it uses commands that are semicolon > delimited strings whose text gives a hint as to what they do. Beginning with the FT-9000 series, Yaesu chose to use the Kenwood style command set. Future models should have more commonality between commands and responses than the older models. While not perfect, the Hamlib project exists so that program authors can concentrate on their code and reinventing the radio control wheel. While we have a mature code base, there is always room for improvement and we have many contributors who have helped in various ways over the years. Inquiries and code are welcome. 73, de Nate, N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Well, a point to you, Dave. I am not against moving on from ACLog, it's just that I'd become so accustomed to it that I had preferred to "tough it out" until *someone* figured it out. But, from the responses I've seen here, my hope is dashed. So, I will continue my search for a replacement program. I have a half dozen or so loaded onto my shack computer and I'm ready to move on. Thanks to all. 73, Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: David Gilbert [mailto:xda...@cis-broadband.com] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:54 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings? Most of those other programs actually work, though. Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular and easily tailored to be as simple as you want them to be. And did I mention that they actually work like they're supposed to? I was a registered user of ACLog for a while but got fed up with it's faults and shortcomings, got tired of N3FJP's excuses for the problems that other programs didn't have, and abandoned it long ago. I realize you don't intend to do that, but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound. 73, Dave AB7E On 6/2/2012 6:19 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > > Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog > command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular > logging/rig control offerings that many of you use. Most programs offer WAY > too many features for my needs. Many thanks. > > 73, > > Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
I've never understood why Yaesu handles command codes the way they do. On the other hand long before I got my K3 I was writing radio control applications (for personal use) for my Kenwood rigs. The Kenwood control language is easy to work with since it uses commands that are semicolon delimited strings whose text gives a hint as to what they do. I never could remember the binary commands used by Yaesu. That made necessary to keep the programming manual on the desk top all of the time. There are those who believe things are "non-standard" simply because they don't use them... Thank goodness Elecraft chose to base their commands on the Kenwood command set! Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 20:19:00 -0500, Terry Schieler wrote: [snip] >Scott, N3FJP, told me that Elecraft sends the commands to the K3 in a >"non-standard" format but claims to "generally support" the Elecraft line. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
I second that opinion. Worst software I actually paid good money for. 73, Charlie, K4ZRJ On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, David Gilbert wrote: > > > Most of those other programs actually work, though. > > Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular and easily > tailored to be as simple as you want them to be. And did I mention that > they actually work like they're supposed to? I was a registered user of > ACLog for a while but got fed up with it's faults and shortcomings, got > tired of N3FJP's excuses for the problems that other programs didn't > have, and abandoned it long ago. I realize you don't intend to do that, > but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound. > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > > > On 6/2/2012 6:19 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: >> >> Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog >> command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular >> logging/rig control offerings that many of you use. Most programs offer WAY >> too many features for my needs. Many thanks. >> >> 73, >> >> Terry, W0FM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
That's as good as it's going to get. N3FJP has said he has no intention of fixing the program for the K3 and other radios. This is a software problem and not an K3 problem. It's probably time to move up in the logging world, like a lot of other people have done. On 06/02/2012 08:19 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > If anyone has been successful in finding a way to send DX spot rig command > strings *smoothly* from N3FJP's ACLog to a K3, would you please email me with > the software settings you've used. I have not been able to get ACLog to > interface well with my K3 (#474) since I bought the rig (the software worked > fine with my FT1000MP). -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
Most of those other programs actually work, though. Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular and easily tailored to be as simple as you want them to be. And did I mention that they actually work like they're supposed to? I was a registered user of ACLog for a while but got fed up with it's faults and shortcomings, got tired of N3FJP's excuses for the problems that other programs didn't have, and abandoned it long ago. I realize you don't intend to do that, but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound. 73, Dave AB7E On 6/2/2012 6:19 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > > Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog > command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular > logging/rig control offerings that many of you use. Most programs offer WAY > too many features for my needs. Many thanks. > > 73, > > Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
If anyone has been successful in finding a way to send DX spot rig command strings *smoothly* from N3FJP's ACLog to a K3, would you please email me with the software settings you've used. I have not been able to get ACLog to interface well with my K3 (#474) since I bought the rig (the software worked fine with my FT1000MP). The software reads the K3 data just fine. But DX spot clicks seem to go very slowly and the mode, band and frequency changes seem to be all mixed up. Scott, N3FJP, told me that Elecraft sends the commands to the K3 in a "non-standard" format but claims to "generally support" the Elecraft line. The command string references I have found in the K3 manual have not been successful, but I don't rule out an error on my part there. Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular logging/rig control offerings that many of you use. Most programs offer WAY too many features for my needs. Many thanks. 73, Terry, W0FM My call at arrl dot net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
