[Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread KA1YMX

I have a K2 with the SSB option installed and I am having issues getting the
MH2 microphone to work. I am currently using a Heil Pro-Set with the K2 and
everything is working fine. I have checked the back of the microphone
connector and everything appears to be connected properly. The 5.6k resistor
is installed between pins 1 and 6 and all of the jumpers are installed. The
PTT button on the MH2 works but my voice is not heard on a separate
receiver. According to my manual I should be able to use the same microphone
settings for the Mh2 and pro-set. Can someone help me out?
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Do you also have a jumper on pin 6 of the microphone configuration 
header?  You can check quickly by measuring for voltage at pin 6 of the 
microphone jack - it should be about 5 volts.  You can check for proper 
soldering of the bias resistor by measuring for a similar voltage at mic 
jack pin 1.

If your Heil ProSet uses a dynamic element, you may (or may not) be able 
to use it with the bias resistor in place.  If there is no DC blocking 
capacitor, the mic element may sound funny due to the DC current 
through it.  The Elecraft/Heil Proset-K2 uses an electret element, and 
the Heil ProSet-iC (Icom) does too (and those need bias), but as far as 
I know, the others use a dynamic element.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2011 7:52 AM, KA1YMX wrote:
 I have a K2 with the SSB option installed and I am having issues getting the
 MH2 microphone to work. I am currently using a Heil Pro-Set with the K2 and
 everything is working fine. I have checked the back of the microphone
 connector and everything appears to be connected properly. The 5.6k resistor
 is installed between pins 1 and 6 and all of the jumpers are installed. The
 PTT button on the MH2 works but my voice is not heard on a separate
 receiver. According to my manual I should be able to use the same microphone
 settings for the Mh2 and pro-set. Can someone help me out?
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread KA1YMX

All of the jumpers are installed. I measured the voltage on pins 1 and 6 and
the voltage is approximately 3.1 vdc. I can still use the K2 with the
Pro-Set and it works fine. The MH2 does not work even though the KSB2 manual
says the configuration is the same.
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread KA1YMX

The 5v regulator U5 on the control board has an output of 3.0v. I
disconnected the front panel from the control panel and the output is still
around 3.0v. Do you think the lower voltage could affect the operation of
the microphone?

I also noticed there is an update to grounding the microphone jack. Could
the lack of ground some how cause this?
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
  The low voltage is probably your problem.  I would think 3 volts is 
too low for the microphone element.
I know 3 volts is too low for proper operation of the microprocessor, 
and since you have not said anything about other strange symptoms, I 
would first check your voltmeter.  Do you read 5 volts or 3 volts at the 
output terminal of RF Board U8 - it should be 5 volts.  If you read 3 
volts at RF U8, try an different voltmeter.

Is the regulator getting quite warm?  If so, you may have a fault on the 
5 volt line somewhere.  If it is not heating up, the most likely reason 
is a bad regulator.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 2/25/2011 9:24 AM, KA1YMX wrote:
 The 5v regulator U5 on the control board has an output of 3.0v. I
 disconnected the front panel from the control panel and the output is still
 around 3.0v. Do you think the lower voltage could affect the operation of
 the microphone?

 I also noticed there is an update to grounding the microphone jack. Could
 the lack of ground some how cause this?
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread KA1YMX

I replaced the 5v regulator and the 5v line is now reading 5vdc. The MH2
still does not work. I also plugged in the Pro-Set and the pro-set works
fine. Do you think the microphone could be broken? I have never used it
before so I am not sure it works.
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Yes, it is possible that your MH2 has a problem.
Did you buy it used?  In that case, someone may have re-wired the 
microphone plug for some other radio.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2011 11:29 AM, KA1YMX wrote:
 I replaced the 5v regulator and the 5v line is now reading 5vdc. The MH2
 still does not work. I also plugged in the Pro-Set and the pro-set works
 fine. Do you think the microphone could be broken? I have never used it
 before so I am not sure it works.
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread KA1YMX

I bought it directly from Elecraft.
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone issue

2011-02-25 Thread bodel...@juno.com
I would say a faulty mic. is a very good possibility. I am on #3. The original 
mic worked properly for about 3 months. The replacement  did not function at 
all  but #3 seems to play just fine. I feel as though there must have been a 
bad batch Other than that issue the K3 and Elecraft's first quality service 
and support can not be beat
Mike WB6CLZK3 #4522.

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I replaced the 5v regulator and the 5v line is now reading 5vdc. The MH2
still does not work. I also plugged in the Pro-Set and the pro-set works
fine. Do you think the microphone could be broken? I have never used it
before so I am not sure it works.
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-27 Thread Hector Padron
Hi mate,I do have the MH-2 and certainly is big and PTT swithc is little hard 
to press but it stays there even my thumb finger moves,I don't have that 
mechanical problem  you have,I am sure some one on the group will come out with 
a solution and congratulations for your new K3,I am taking mine to a DXPedition 
to Peanut island here in South east FL,we will operating the CQ WW Contest in 
CW as W4K special call,73
 
AD4C
 


For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3

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From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com
Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:08 AM


G'day everyone!

First of all, 
After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for our (Myself 
- VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD  Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora  
Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland, Australia I must 
say that I am more than impressed with my new K3.

It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2 microphone is 
however another matter.

Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that you must be a 
400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-)

And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making contact that 
as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the button, the radio goes back 
to RX mode.

Does anyone else have this issue?

Jeff Cochrane 
VK4BOF
Innisfail QLD
Australia
Elecraft K3 #4257
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-27 Thread juergen
Hi Jeff

The button is a bit mushy lacking a positive action. 

Another problem that I have with the MH2 is its  curly cord. The curly cord is 
so stiff that it pulls the radio if you try and stretch it a bit. It just does 
not have enough stretch, even if pulled a small amount.

I like using a hand mic. What I suggest you do is try and getting an original 
Icom HM36 hand mic. This Icom mic sounds pretty good on the K3. It has a nice 
soft curly cord and the button has a nice positive smooth micro switch click.  
The current model HM36 is junk made in China, try and get an original Japanese 
made HM36 that came with the early Icom radios.  Just make sure you throw the 
Icom radio in the bin and keep the mic!

73
John



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 From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 7:08 PM
 G'day everyone!
 
 First of all, 
 After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last
 weekend for our (Myself - VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD  Dale -
 VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora  Fauna at
 Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland,
 Australia I must say that I am more than impressed with my
 new K3.
 
 It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the
 MH2 microphone is however another matter.
 
 Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it
 appears that you must be a 400lb gorilla to use the damned
 thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-)
 
 And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely
 making contact that as soon as you relieve any pressure at
 all from the button, the radio goes back to RX mode.
 
 Does anyone else have this issue?
 
 Jeff Cochrane 
 VK4BOF
 Innisfail QLD
 Australia
 Elecraft K3 #4257
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-27 Thread juergen

Hi Paul

What are your mods? Did  you just use a capacitor to roll off the bass?

Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was very common 
on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the manufacturer, which is a pity  
since the HC5 seems to produce good audio on just about every radio that I have 
used. The only problem is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge anymore. 


John

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 From: paulb xtr348...@xtra.co.nz
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 10:53 PM
 
 
 The MH2 mic PTT  may be getting caught in the
 rubber surround. It is easy to undo the cover.
 Note that the PTT button only fits one-way, there
 is a cut away slide which fits onto the switch.
 
 For my own use the mic insert had a tad
 to much bass, it has been slightly modded here to
 suit. 
 
 regards
 
 Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-27 Thread Mike
juergen wrote:
 Hi Paul

 What are your mods? Did  you just use a capacitor to roll off the bass?

 Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was very 
 common on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the manufacturer, which is 
 a pity  since the HC5 seems to produce good audio on just about every radio 
 that I have used. The only problem is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge 
 anymore. 


 John
   
Have you asked Heil at i...@heilsound.com mailto:i...@heilsound.com

73, Mike NF4L

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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  Have you asked Heil

Yes.  Heil will no longer sell the bare elements.  One must
purchase a D-104 upgrade kit in order to get the element.  In
addition, Heil will not sell replacement clamshells for the
original Proset mic boom for repair purposes.

In spite of their claims, Heil do not care about customer
service.   The cost to repair a damaged ProSet is more than
replacing it with a Yamaha CM-500 and the ProSet would have
to be shipped to Heil rather than allow the user to make a
relatively simple change of mic element and housing.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 5/27/2010 9:54 AM, Mike wrote:
 juergen wrote:
 Hi Paul

 What are your mods? Did  you just use a capacitor to roll off the
 bass?

 Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was
 very common on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the
 manufacturer, which is a pity  since the HC5 seems to produce good
 audio on just about every radio that I have used. The only problem
 is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge anymore.


 John

 Have you asked Heil at i...@heilsound.commailto:i...@heilsound.com

 73, Mike NF4L

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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-27 Thread Mike

Well durn! I saw that kit, but it didn't say which element it was. 
There's no way to order from their website either AFAICT. I needed some 
of the foam pads that go inside the Pro-Set ear muffs, and had to do a 
phone order. I now have the CM-500 on the K3 and the Pr0-Set on the 
backup PRO II.

So the real downside of dealing with Elecraft is we can so easily get 
used to great customer service. :-P

73, Mike NF4L

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
   Have you asked Heil

 Yes.  Heil will no longer sell the bare elements.  One must
 purchase a D-104 upgrade kit in order to get the element.  In
 addition, Heil will not sell replacement clamshells for the
 original Proset mic boom for repair purposes.

 In spite of their claims, Heil do not care about customer
 service.   The cost to repair a damaged ProSet is more than
 replacing it with a Yamaha CM-500 and the ProSet would have
 to be shipped to Heil rather than allow the user to make a
 relatively simple change of mic element and housing.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV

 On 5/27/2010 9:54 AM, Mike wrote:
   
 juergen wrote:
 
 Hi Paul

 What are your mods? Did  you just use a capacitor to roll off the
 bass?

 Someone once told me that the Heil HC5 is sound transducer that was
 very common on PC motherboards. I lost the web link of the
 manufacturer, which is a pity  since the HC5 seems to produce good
 audio on just about every radio that I have used. The only problem
 is that you cant buy the HC5 cartridge anymore.


 John

   
 Have you asked Heil at i...@heilsound.commailto:i...@heilsound.com

 73, Mike NF4L

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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-27 Thread Stephen Prior
Jeff

At the suggestion of Ian GM3SEK, I removed the spring under the ptt and cut
a bit off it before stretching back to its original length.  It was a bit
fiddly but not difficult.  Dropped it more than once!

The ptt is now much easier to use but as others have remarked, it has no
positive tactile feedback - it needs a click or similar. A shame, since the
quality of the audio is very good, although my voice prefers the MD2.

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 27/05/2010 03:08, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com
wrote:

 
 G'day everyone!
 
 First of all, 
 After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for our (Myself
 - VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD  Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora 
 Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland, Australia I must
 say that I am more than impressed with my new K3.
 
 It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2 microphone is
 however another matter.
 
 Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that you must be
 a 400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-)
 
 And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making contact
 that as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the button, the radio
 goes back to RX mode.
 
 Does anyone else have this issue?
 
 Jeff Cochrane 
 VK4BOF
 Innisfail QLD
 Australia
 Elecraft K3 #4257
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[Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-26 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
G'day everyone!

First of all, 
After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for our (Myself 
- VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD  Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition for the World Flora  
Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in North Queensland, Australia I must 
say that I am more than impressed with my new K3.

It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2 microphone is 
however another matter.

Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that you must be a 
400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button is so stiff to use. :-)

And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making contact that 
as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the button, the radio goes back 
to RX mode.

Does anyone else have this issue?

Jeff Cochrane 
VK4BOF
Innisfail QLD
Australia
Elecraft K3 #4257
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-26 Thread David Herring, K6DCH
Jeff

The button on my MH2 is certainly stiff.  But mine seems to be a bit  
more forgiving in the PTT department than you've described yours to  
be.  I don't have to remain totally clamped down on it for the rig to  
stay in transmit mode.

I've never opened it, but perhaps there's a means to adjust it inside?

73,
Dave
K6DCH

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On May 26, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF 
vk4bof.elecr...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 G'day everyone!

 First of all,
 After having given my K3 its first HF hitout this last weekend for  
 our (Myself - VK4BOF, Gary - VK4FD  Dale - VK4DMC) mini dxpedition  
 for the World Flora  Fauna at Undara Lava Tubes National Park in  
 North Queensland, Australia I must say that I am more than impressed  
 with my new K3.

 It performed flawlessly and was a real pleasure to use, the MH2  
 microphone is however another matter.

 Whilst its transmitted audio quality is excellent it appears that  
 you must be a 400lb gorilla to use the damned thing, the TX button  
 is so stiff to use. :-)

 And even when you get the button in, it must be only barely making  
 contact that as soon as you relieve any pressure at all from the  
 button, the radio goes back to RX mode.

 Does anyone else have this issue?

 Jeff Cochrane
 VK4BOF
 Innisfail QLD
 Australia
 Elecraft K3 #4257
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Issue

2010-05-26 Thread paulb


The MH2 mic PTT  may be getting caught in the
rubber surround. It is easy to undo the cover.
Note that the PTT button only fits one-way, there
is a cut away slide which fits onto the switch.

For my own use the mic insert had a tad
to much bass, it has been slightly modded here to
suit. 

regards

Paul
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