[Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ??
Just wanted to start the discussion about having an EMC Fest in 2010. Have any discussions about where and when taken place? The 2009 show in Wichita, KS worked very well for developers, but was not associated with a traditional public show. The old CNC Workshop show is no longer held in Cameron, IL due to the health of the sponsor, Roland Friestad. The Digital Machinist magazine is going to revive the show in Ann Arbor, MI. Information about their 2010 show can be found here: http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/showthread.php?t=36635 The NAMES model engineering show for 2010 is being held in a relatively small arena in Southgate, MI this year and is not well suited for hosting developer activities. So comments? Steve Stallings -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ??
I hope to attend, and I hope to see fellow developers and users there. It would be great if we can get a developer area for 6-8 networked PCs and internet access, as past years have shown this is a great way to work together on bugs or new features. Does someone know who to talk to about that? Jeff -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ??
Steve Stallings wrote: Just wanted to start the discussion about having an EMC Fest in 2010. Have any discussions about where and when taken place? The 2009 show in Wichita, KS worked very well for developers, but was not associated with a traditional public show. The old CNC Workshop show is no longer held in Cameron, IL due to the health of the sponsor, Roland Friestad. The Digital Machinist magazine is going to revive the show in Ann Arbor, MI. Information about their 2010 show can be found here: http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/showthread.php?t=36635 The NAMES model engineering show for 2010 is being held in a relatively small arena in Southgate, MI this year and is not well suited for hosting developer activities. So comments? Steve Stallings Being as it during the week and no weekend knocks it out for me, $125 to attend makes it twice as hard to swallow. Ed. -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ??
Jeff, If you are talking about the new CNC Workshop, the contact point is: George Bulliss Editor, Village Press Publications 2779 Aero Park Drive Traverse City, MI 49686 (800) 327-7377 gbull...@villagepress.com Earlier comments seem to indicate that they will be able to arrange space, allow open access, and have internet, but none of that has been confirmed. Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:jep...@unpythonic.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:07 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ?? I hope to attend, and I hope to see fellow developers and users there. It would be great if we can get a developer area for 6-8 networked PCs and internet access, as past years have shown this is a great way to work together on bugs or new features. Does someone know who to talk to about that? Jeff -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ??
My cousin lives very close to that campus and he recently took a TIG welding class there for fun. He said that facility is really nice and seems to very current regarding industrial technology. Apparently they have a reputation for turning out some of the best welders in the industry. So it sounds like George picked a good location for the show. I grew up east of Ypsilanti and my girlfriend (later wife) attended EMU for many years so is familiar territory. In fact as I recall my old Camaro laid some rubber in front of the campus one night in the early 80's. :-) I plan on being there for a large part of the Workshop. Dave On 1/12/2010 10:57 AM, Steve Stallings wrote: Jeff, If you are talking about the new CNC Workshop, the contact point is: George Bulliss Editor, Village Press Publications 2779 Aero Park Drive Traverse City, MI 49686 (800) 327-7377 gbull...@villagepress.com Earlier comments seem to indicate that they will be able to arrange space, allow open access, and have internet, but none of that has been confirmed. Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: Jeff Epler [mailto:jep...@unpythonic.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:07 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ?? I hope to attend, and I hope to see fellow developers and users there. It would be great if we can get a developer area for 6-8 networked PCs and internet access, as past years have shown this is a great way to work together on bugs or new features. Does someone know who to talk to about that? Jeff -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2010 ??
Jeff Epler wrote: I hope to attend, and I hope to see fellow developers and users there. It would be great if we can get a developer area for 6-8 networked PCs and internet access, as past years have shown this is a great way to work together on bugs or new features. Does someone know who to talk to about that? It is definitely part of the plan. This is at a community college, and they are supposed to have good net connectivity. I think George Bulliss at Village Press is the contact (or is he the guy that is retiring) I'm away from home and don't have the email thread on this from last fall available. There was supposed to be a good sized room that would be available to the EMC group. I will report the info that I got as soon as I get home. Jon -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC-Fest lodging (was: [OT] Washing Machine 3-Phase Motor)
Jon Elson wrote: Stuart Stevenson wrote: Fest 2009 Workshop May 21 thru May 27 MPM Inc 2100 S West St Wichita KS 67213 316 945 1227 Which reminds me, what is happening on the hotel negotiations? Is there a particular hotel that has been selected, and maybe giving a special rate? I'm interested in this too. I'll be flying into Kansas City and driving the 3 hours or so to Wichita. I have plane and rental car reservations, but I haven't made hotel reservations yet. Regards, John Kasunich -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC-Fest lodging (was: [OT] Washing Machine 3-Phase Motor)
I will get some rates for different levels and let you know On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Jon Elson wrote: Stuart Stevenson wrote: Fest 2009 Workshop May 21 thru May 27 MPM Inc 2100 S West St Wichita KS 67213 316 945 1227 Which reminds me, what is happening on the hotel negotiations? Is there a particular hotel that has been selected, and maybe giving a special rate? I'm interested in this too. I'll be flying into Kansas City and driving the 3 hours or so to Wichita. I have plane and rental car reservations, but I haven't made hotel reservations yet. Regards, John Kasunich -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC-Fest lodging (was: [OT] Washing Machine 3-Phase Motor)
Gentlemen, We have hotels and motels. We asked about special rates. There are no motels that give much discount. The rates run from (dives) single at $25/night - $125/wk on up. I have never seen the $25.00 rooms. I will go see one this weekend. Not expecting much :) Stuart On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Jon Elson wrote: Stuart Stevenson wrote: Fest 2009 Workshop May 21 thru May 27 MPM Inc 2100 S West St Wichita KS 67213 316 945 1227 Which reminds me, what is happening on the hotel negotiations? Is there a particular hotel that has been selected, and maybe giving a special rate? I'm interested in this too. I'll be flying into Kansas City and driving the 3 hours or so to Wichita. I have plane and rental car reservations, but I haven't made hotel reservations yet. Regards, John Kasunich -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC-Fest lodging (was: [OT] Washing Machine 3-PhaseMotor)
You may need to call in the priceline negotiator :) Len -Original Message- From: Stuart Stevenson [mailto:stus...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:52 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC-Fest lodging (was: [OT] Washing Machine 3-PhaseMotor) Gentlemen, We have hotels and motels. We asked about special rates. There are no motels that give much discount. The rates run from (dives) single at $25/night - $125/wk on up. I have never seen the $25.00 rooms. I will go see one this weekend. Not expecting much :) Stuart On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Jon Elson wrote: Stuart Stevenson wrote: Fest 2009 Workshop May 21 thru May 27 MPM Inc 2100 S West St Wichita KS 67213 316 945 1227 Which reminds me, what is happening on the hotel negotiations? Is there a particular hotel that has been selected, and maybe giving a special rate? I'm interested in this too. I'll be flying into Kansas City and driving the 3 hours or so to Wichita. I have plane and rental car reservations, but I haven't made hotel reservations yet. Regards, John Kasunich -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Crystal Reports #45; New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited royalty#45;free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
Unfortunately, something went wrong with internet access at the workshop, so we've been without for most of the past 2 days. I'm at the hotel now, which is the only reason I can post this :) I don't know whether we'll have access tomorrow, so commits and IRC participation may be spotty. - Steve Hey you guys on the web-cam at Galesburg it's time to wake up - 17:55 UTC on 20th here at present - you need to work up an appetite for the BBQg John Prentice - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
Internet at the fest has been down since yesterday :( (the phone compay is working on it) sam On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:57:12 +0100 John Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey you guys on the web-cam at Galesburg it's time to wake up - 17:55 UTC on 20th here at present - you need to work up an appetite for the BBQg John Prentice - Original Message - From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest Jeff Epler wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:02:05PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Great! Where's the webcam? http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml HUH! Bunch of pikers - where the heck are you? All I see are empty chairs! Jon - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
Hey you guys on the web-cam at Galesburg it's time to wake up - 17:55 UTC on 20th here at present - you need to work up an appetite for the BBQg John Prentice - Original Message - From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest Jeff Epler wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:02:05PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Great! Where's the webcam? http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml HUH! Bunch of pikers - where the heck are you? All I see are empty chairs! Jon - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml HUH! Bunch of pikers - where the heck are you? All I see are empty chairs! Jon Agree, it's only 2 at night and already everyone has gone of to bed ? :-) Think this is good though, you need to be fully awake when operating these powerful machines. Making a mistake can damage machine and/or operator. When operating my machine I always make sure it has got my full attention. And never drink and drive or operate a milling machine!!! OT: I saw a youtube video some time ago with a few guys who created a kind of fairground attraction with a chair mounted to a 6-axis robot. I think this is insane. One wrong move or a glitch in the system may damage the person riding the attraction. Always use proper safety measures when working on a mill, a lathe or a 6-DOF robot! And yes, I'm a piker too. I once saw a chuck flying by, hitting a hole in a steel cupboard. Since then I make sure I am safe in case the impossible becomes possible. Walking into the work area of a bit (6 x 12 meters) 5 axis CNC milling machine was not something I liked doing when making photos of my workpiece under construction ... (I was told the mill cannot reach below 1 meter from the ground so in case of emergency just lie down) Rob - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
How about Chris Radek ? ;-) Alex PS: sorry I'm not there.. - Original Message - From: Jeff Epler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 01:01 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest so far we've got Jeff Epler John Kasunich Steve Padnos Kenneth Lerman Steve Stallings Matt Shaver Ray Henry and I've probably forgotten someone.. Jeff - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
Yep Chris is here and Ken Lerman just promised to take a shower and get out here also. He was here for a bit yesterday. Ray On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 14:02 +0300, Alex Joni wrote: How about Chris Radek ? ;-) Alex PS: sorry I'm not there.. - Original Message - From: Jeff Epler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 01:01 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest so far we've got Jeff Epler John Kasunich Steve Padnos Kenneth Lerman Steve Stallings Matt Shaver Ray Henry and I've probably forgotten someone.. Jeff - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
Jeff Epler wrote: so far we've got Jeff Epler John Kasunich Steve Padnos Kenneth Lerman Steve Stallings Matt Shaver Ray Henry ...and, of course, Jon Elson is on his way... It would be great if y'all could use the webcam to capture a group picture and then post it somewhere in the wiki with the attendees identified so we who've never been able to made it to an EMC gathering can put faces to these names we know only by the incredible amount of information you share with us via emc-users. Regards, Kent - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC Fest
So, Who is at the fest and set up? I'm frantically putting stuff together and trying to get ready to head up there tomorrow. Jon - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
so far we've got Jeff Epler John Kasunich Steve Padnos Kenneth Lerman Steve Stallings Matt Shaver Ray Henry and I've probably forgotten someone.. Jeff - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
Jeff Epler wrote: so far we've got Jeff Epler John Kasunich Steve Padnos Kenneth Lerman Steve Stallings Matt Shaver Ray Henry Great! Where's the webcam? It looks like I will be assembling a servo system there, as I have run out of time here to put it together. Jon - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:02:05PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Great! Where's the webcam? http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
Jeff Epler wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:02:05PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Great! Where's the webcam? http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml HUH! Bunch of pikers - where the heck are you? All I see are empty chairs! Jon - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Ed wrote: A while back someone mentioned video recording the workshop classes and offering them on DVD. Since I will not arrive until Thurs evening at best I will miss most of the classes that have the most interest to me (CL and HAL). On another note, has anyone done much with electronic gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a gear hobber, it looks like if you had an encoder on the spindle to track its rotation and a servo on an index head to rotate the work piece it could be done by setting a ratio between them. The problem I see is that the spindle might have to turn several hundreds of times for a complete cutting cycle. Can be done without running out of counters? Ed It can be done. About three years ago this topic came up, and I wrote a HAL component that can be used to do electronic gearing. It is done in such a way that it will never overflow no matter how long you run. It will also work for any ratio, as long as the product of the encoder PPR and the gear tooth count is less than 2^31 (4 billion). There is no man page for the component, but there is fairly detailed documentation in the source. You can view it at http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/emc2/src/hal/components/encoder_ratio.c?rev=1.12 Regards, John Kasunich - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:45:28AM -0400, Ed wrote: On another note, has anyone done much with electronic gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a gear hobber, Another approach might be based on G33, aka spindle synchronized motion (most commonly used for threading on a lathe) You can do synchronized motion in any direction, even rotary. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:45:28AM -0400, Ed wrote: On another note, has anyone done much with electronic gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a gear hobber, Another approach might be based on G33, aka spindle synchronized motion (most commonly used for threading on a lathe) You can do synchronized motion in any direction, even rotary. My thought was to synchronize spindle and cutter then feed across with another servo and possibly an axis to drive the knee to set depth of cut. Ed. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
John Kasunich wrote: Ed wrote: A while back someone mentioned video recording the workshop classes and offering them on DVD. Since I will not arrive until Thurs evening at best I will miss most of the classes that have the most interest to me (CL and HAL). On another note, has anyone done much with electronic gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a gear hobber, it looks like if you had an encoder on the spindle to track its rotation and a servo on an index head to rotate the work piece it could be done by setting a ratio between them. The problem I see is that the spindle might have to turn several hundreds of times for a complete cutting cycle. Can be done without running out of counters? Ed It can be done. About three years ago this topic came up, and I wrote a HAL component that can be used to do electronic gearing. It is done in such a way that it will never overflow no matter how long you run. It will also work for any ratio, as long as the product of the encoder PPR and the gear tooth count is less than 2^31 (4 billion). There is no man page for the component, but there is fairly detailed documentation in the source. You can view it at http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/emc2/src/hal/components/encoder_ratio.c?rev=1.12 Regards, John Kasunich It looks like I have schoolin' to do! The systems I have done so far have been simple ones that have 4 axiis and a couple on/off SSR's. The outlook is to learn enough to be able to setup a machine such as the Galesburg Mazak, tool changers being the big item. Ed. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Ed wrote: Which brings up the question of power availability. I would like to bring a project that would need 240V 3Phase at about 10Amps. Does anyone know if that is available? Hard wiring or common plugs are not a problem. Ed. Roland most certainly has good 3-phase power at his location. He has both 480 and 240 V panels. I don't know how easy it is to get additional power rigged, but there are a number of twist-lock outlets scattered about. You have to be real careful to get the right voltage before you plug in. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
John Kasunich wrote: The Mazak is three-phase, and plugs into a twist-lock receptacle, but I don't recall if it is 240V or 480V. Depending on how continuously you will need power we could unplug the Mazak and plug in your machine. I seem to recall that the plug is fed from a disconnect, which is handy for safety. My recollection is the Mazak is 480. I recall there is a 480 panel and a 240 panel. I think Roland has a dry transformer inside the building to get the 240. The 240 may not be available from the bus duct, only 480. I'm certain that there is 480V available - can you scrounge a suitable 480 to 240 transformer? I think you need about 5KVA. A 5 KVA single-phase transformer isn't all that big, but in 3 phase they start to get pretty heavy to lug around. I have a 2 KVA single-phase step-down transformer. Would that be needed? I can bring it along. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
I'd second that - I can't justify time off from real income for what is for now a hobby, if the proceeds from a sale of DVDs (even if just unedited off the cuff stuff) went to the developement team as donations I'd step up. Even setting up a cam and recording each of the sessions would be invaluable to us who can't attend. I'd also be willing to offer my time to dupe masters for said effort. Greg - Original Message - From: Patrick Ferrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest Hi all, Unfortunately, giving final exams trumps EMC Fest for me this year, as it will in forseeable years unless the dates change. Bummer. I don't know about anyone else, but I would love (read: possibly even pay for!) a dvd of someone just following Ray, John, Jon, Steve, or any of you other EMC heavy hitters around the Fest. OK, that might not be the best way to put it (!) - of course what I mean is that I would find it extremely cool to see what other people's EMC'd hardware looks like, Mazak or desktop or anywhere in between. I guess what I'm getting at is that it wouldn't necessarily have to be professionally edited to be valuable- so I hope somebody with a decent camcorder would consider deagging it along and recording parts of the Fest. thanks, Pat Patrick Ferrick Town of Webb School Main Street Old Forge, NY 13420 (315) 369-3222 (315) 369-6216 - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.15/1426 - Release Date: 5/10/2008 11:12 AM - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Ray Henry wrote: Hi Ed I've twisted Roland's arm just enough to get extra tables. I'm hoping we'll have enough for all of the EMC crowd. Got any ideas about layout in the space? Rayh The tables last year were in a U configuration, maybe this year it will have to be a doubleU with some tables back to back. It sounds like there will be more people interested in EMC and bringing projects. Which brings up the question of power availability. I would like to bring a project that would need 240V 3Phase at about 10Amps. Does anyone know if that is available? Hard wiring or common plugs are not a problem. Ed. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Ed wrote: Ray Henry wrote: Hi Ed I've twisted Roland's arm just enough to get extra tables. I'm hoping we'll have enough for all of the EMC crowd. Got any ideas about layout in the space? Rayh The tables last year were in a U configuration, maybe this year it will have to be a doubleU with some tables back to back. It sounds like there will be more people interested in EMC and bringing projects. Which brings up the question of power availability. I would like to bring a project that would need 240V 3Phase at about 10Amps. Does anyone know if that is available? Hard wiring or common plugs are not a problem. Ed. The Mazak is three-phase, and plugs into a twist-lock receptacle, but I don't recall if it is 240V or 480V. Depending on how continuously you will need power we could unplug the Mazak and plug in your machine. I seem to recall that the plug is fed from a disconnect, which is handy for safety. I _think_ there might have been two plugs next to each other, but I'm not sure. I'm certain that there is 480V available - can you scrounge a suitable 480 to 240 transformer? I think you need about 5KVA. As far as single phase 120V for computers and such - there are some limits. Last year when Aram plugged in his coffeemaker it took out the breaker powering our computers. Two years ago Ray hooked up some single phase 480 to 120V transformers for additional 120V. Actually I'm writing this I'm talking to Ray on IRC, and we're planning for more 120V power. There is plenty of 480, and I'm probably gonna pick up a couple surplus 480-120V transformers. Ray will hook them up. (This is single phase stuff - three phase is limited to what is available along the back wall - I think there is both 240 and 480). Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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I've done that. On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 21:53 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Ray Henry wrote: Sounds like you are saying you want me not to teach this class. (off list) Hi Ray: Damn. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Hi Ed I've twisted Roland's arm just enough to get extra tables. I'm hoping we'll have enough for all of the EMC crowd. Got any ideas about layout in the space? Rayh On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 14:08 -0400, Ed wrote: Ray Henry wrote: Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during the week. Ray Looks like a few extra tables will be needed this year!! Last year it was a squeese when I setup my little Gecko and servo board. Ed. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Hello! What did I said bad or what recommend bad/stupid ideas? If one got happy when I burned down my encoder with 24 V, thank you to saying that. It really looks educational and helpful. What did I said or proposed was wrong??? Sorry if I cause trouble. Aram Ray Henry wrote: Sounds like you are saying you want me not to teach this class. (off list) Hi Ray: Aram is being Aram. He was at least year's workshop, and he is enough to try anyone's patience. Most of us are just ignoring him. It may seem rude, but we've tried, and there just isn't much else we can do. Please don't let him get to you, and by all means don't let him dissuade you from teaching your classes. I think Aram's real problem is that he is frustrated. At times he seems as dumb as a stump. Other times he seems to be quite smart, but he just doesn't have the knack for integration work. He doesn't read documentation (or he doesn't grasp it), and then he gets frustrated when people can't take his hand and walk him step-by-step through things. Last year he walked around for quite a while with an encoder (or maybe a jogwheel) in his hand, looking for someone to show him how to wire it up. He wound up hooking its 5V supply to 24V and burning it out, and afterwards I swear he still didn't understand why it didn't work. He just doesn't get some things that we consider so fundamental we don't even think about them. I truly think he will never be happy unless someone literally devotes their entire week to helping him (and only him). Maybe he needs to hire someone to do exactly that... but I can assure you it won't be me - I would go insane. Regards, John - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Hi Aram, RS-274NGC as far as I can tell just doesn't provide for special functions. It does provide G01, G02, G03. Anything else is programmed by using that facility and programming externally. A few manufacturers have provided splines specially coded within their version of the interpreter ( Okuma comes to mind). More might do so if there were an universally agreed upon standard to representing the splines. To get around this most people with special needs write programs in their favorite language that represent the desired function in G code usually as small straight line segments or as short G02 or G03 segments to interpolate the function to the desired accuracy. This is also true of most of the CAD programs; they output small segments to represent contours, etc. The developers of EMC2 have worked on making the short segment stuff work well and that is within the limits of the present interpreter. So my suggestion is to grab your favorite programming language and go to work. Check Jon Elson's page for an example of hole making. I occasionally write programs to represent contours that are curved in two dimensions. Not too difficult to do. You just have to pay attention to details. A little geometry/trig and a good loop can do wonders. HTH Dave On May 6, 2008, at 9:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Is this programming with G code? I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every community college. Help in G code programming is every way. What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special G code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 and it is EMC2 fest. I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should be applied to on line school! Thanks Aram Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during the week. Ray On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2.
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
The class I outlined is intended for folk a bit like you were a couple years ago. In fact I drew it back further into newbie than that class. My ideal student for these sessions is someone who wants to make parts with EMC rather than someone who wants to make machines that run with EMC. There is certainly a need for work on what I tend to call integration but I wasn't prepared to offer a daily outline of what that might be just yet. Once we open up the machine integration topic we have a range of material from Stepconf for steppers to hand written and edited config file sets that include complex kinematics. Classes would need to include The Language of HAL, The Language of PyVCP, the Language of Conf, and Ladder Language. Formal workshop classes are difficult when self-selected folk who cover a wide range of abilities and prior knowledge are included. This workshop environment makes teaching advanced material much more difficult than it is in a formal school setting. When CNC-Workshop spun off from what we were doing at the NAMES show, I thought it was really important to pre-plan projects for folk to get involved with. The Mazak V-5 was my first and Roland was willing to sacrifice it. In that project I found that folk who already knew how, did the most of the work. It was great learning because we needed to prove to ourselves that EMC2 could run production machines and that we were capable of the code and integration work that make these kinds of machines fully functional. (I'm using we in the sense of all of us on the lists, on IRC, ) These days, with the ability to run big multi-axis machines with non-trivial kinematics well established, I think folk come to the EMC2 with ideas about their own projects. The EMC2 is the only production quality software capable of such a wide range of application. Your recent post about a very precise grinder is an example of someone coming to the software with a machine idea. IMO your biggest problem with that machine is mechanical backlash not software or configuration. Such a machine could easily be set up with any current CNC software package. Roland faced a similar mechanical backlash issue a few years back with his skate grinder. Backlash would have killed most machines for the purpose since it had to be accurate to a few tenths over the length of the skate and some arcs were ground with a radius of more than a meter. He came up with what I thought was an innovative solution. What these kind of projects and folk need is very focused self study with a bit of guidance. IMO an apprentice teaching model is much more effective than is structured coursework once you get beyond a very basic level. That Apprentice/master model is what I'm hearing quite a few of our folk offering. Hope this helps Rayh On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 22:01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Is this programming with G code? I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every community college. Help in G code programming is every way. What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special G code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 and it is EMC2 fest. I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should be applied to on line school! Thanks Aram Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during the week. Ray On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2.
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Hello Ray. It is right there are people with different interest and level. There are two points that I want to make. 1. there are some help such as G code use that is possible to get everyway any 2 years colleges will offer that. Why need spend valuable time of Fest on it? Help with development of EMC2 is impossible to get, and nobody offers - only one time in year and at EMC Fest. 2. I am sure that need establish on line school about EMC2 to learn about EMC2 year long and not a one week a year. Thanks Aram The class I outlined is intended for folk a bit like you were a couple years ago. In fact I drew it back further into newbie than that class. My ideal student for these sessions is someone who wants to make parts with EMC rather than someone who wants to make machines that run with EMC. There is certainly a need for work on what I tend to call integration but I wasn't prepared to offer a daily outline of what that might be just yet. Once we open up the machine integration topic we have a range of material from Stepconf for steppers to hand written and edited config file sets that include complex kinematics. Classes would need to include The Language of HAL, The Language of PyVCP, the Language of Conf, and Ladder Language. Formal workshop classes are difficult when self-selected folk who cover a wide range of abilities and prior knowledge are included. This workshop environment makes teaching advanced material much more difficult than it is in a formal school setting. When CNC-Workshop spun off from what we were doing at the NAMES show, I thought it was really important to pre-plan projects for folk to get involved with. The Mazak V-5 was my first and Roland was willing to sacrifice it. In that project I found that folk who already knew how, did the most of the work. It was great learning because we needed to prove to ourselves that EMC2 could run production machines and that we were capable of the code and integration work that make these kinds of machines fully functional. (I'm using we in the sense of all of us on the lists, on IRC, ) These days, with the ability to run big multi-axis machines with non-trivial kinematics well established, I think folk come to the EMC2 with ideas about their own projects. The EMC2 is the only production quality software capable of such a wide range of application. Your recent post about a very precise grinder is an example of someone coming to the software with a machine idea. IMO your biggest problem with that machine is mechanical backlash not software or configuration. Such a machine could easily be set up with any current CNC software package. Roland faced a similar mechanical backlash issue a few years back with his skate grinder. Backlash would have killed most machines for the purpose since it had to be accurate to a few tenths over the length of the skate and some arcs were ground with a radius of more than a meter. He came up with what I thought was an innovative solution. What these kind of projects and folk need is very focused self study with a bit of guidance. IMO an apprentice teaching model is much more effective than is structured coursework once you get beyond a very basic level. That Apprentice/master model is what I'm hearing quite a few of our folk offering. Hope this helps Rayh On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 22:01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Is this programming with G code? I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every community college. Help in G code programming is every way. What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special G code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 and it is EMC2 fest. I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should be applied to on line school! Thanks Aram Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during the week. Ray On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: Hello, Will there be any good training for
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Sounds like you are saying you want me not to teach this class. On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 19:03 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ray. It is right there are people with different interest and level. There are two points that I want to make. 1.there are some help such as G code use that is possible to get everyway –any 2 years colleges will offer that. Why need spend valuable time of Fest on it? Help with development of EMC2 is impossible to get, and nobody offers - only one time in year and at EMC Fest. 2.I am sure that need establish on line school about EMC2 to learn about EMC2 year long and not a one week a year. Thanks Aram The class I outlined is intended for folk a bit like you were a couple years ago. In fact I drew it back further into newbie than that class. My ideal student for these sessions is someone who wants to make parts with EMC rather than someone who wants to make machines that run with EMC. There is certainly a need for work on what I tend to call integration but I wasn't prepared to offer a daily outline of what that might be just yet. Once we open up the machine integration topic we have a range of material from Stepconf for steppers to hand written and edited config file sets that include complex kinematics. Classes would need to include The Language of HAL, The Language of PyVCP, the Language of Conf, and Ladder Language. Formal workshop classes are difficult when self-selected folk who cover a wide range of abilities and prior knowledge are included. This workshop environment makes teaching advanced material much more difficult than it is in a formal school setting. When CNC-Workshop spun off from what we were doing at the NAMES show, I thought it was really important to pre-plan projects for folk to get involved with. The Mazak V-5 was my first and Roland was willing to sacrifice it. In that project I found that folk who already knew how, did the most of the work. It was great learning because we needed to prove to ourselves that EMC2 could run production machines and that we were capable of the code and integration work that make these kinds of machines fully functional. (I'm using we in the sense of all of us on the lists, on IRC, ) These days, with the ability to run big multi-axis machines with non-trivial kinematics well established, I think folk come to the EMC2 with ideas about their own projects. The EMC2 is the only production quality software capable of such a wide range of application. Your recent post about a very precise grinder is an example of someone coming to the software with a machine idea. IMO your biggest problem with that machine is mechanical backlash not software or configuration. Such a machine could easily be set up with any current CNC software package. Roland faced a similar mechanical backlash issue a few years back with his skate grinder. Backlash would have killed most machines for the purpose since it had to be accurate to a few tenths over the length of the skate and some arcs were ground with a radius of more than a meter. He came up with what I thought was an innovative solution. What these kind of projects and folk need is very focused self study with a bit of guidance. IMO an apprentice teaching model is much more effective than is structured coursework once you get beyond a very basic level. That Apprentice/master model is what I'm hearing quite a few of our folk offering. Hope this helps Rayh On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 22:01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Is this programming with G code? I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every community college. Help in G code programming is every way. What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special G code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 and it is EMC2 fest. I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should be applied to on line school! Thanks Aram Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Ray Henry wrote: Sounds like you are saying you want me not to teach this class. (off list) Hi Ray: Aram is being Aram. He was at least year's workshop, and he is enough to try anyone's patience. Most of us are just ignoring him. It may seem rude, but we've tried, and there just isn't much else we can do. Please don't let him get to you, and by all means don't let him dissuade you from teaching your classes. I think Aram's real problem is that he is frustrated. At times he seems as dumb as a stump. Other times he seems to be quite smart, but he just doesn't have the knack for integration work. He doesn't read documentation (or he doesn't grasp it), and then he gets frustrated when people can't take his hand and walk him step-by-step through things. Last year he walked around for quite a while with an encoder (or maybe a jogwheel) in his hand, looking for someone to show him how to wire it up. He wound up hooking its 5V supply to 24V and burning it out, and afterwards I swear he still didn't understand why it didn't work. He just doesn't get some things that we consider so fundamental we don't even think about them. I truly think he will never be happy unless someone literally devotes their entire week to helping him (and only him). Maybe he needs to hire someone to do exactly that... but I can assure you it won't be me - I would go insane. Regards, John - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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John Kasunich wrote: Ray Henry wrote: Sounds like you are saying you want me not to teach this class. (off list) Hi Ray: Damn. Well obviously I don't know how to operate my email client. Sorry John Kasunich - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Ertley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale Dale, I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class. It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how they each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality men. It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and patient. I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much worth the time, effort and expense. thanks Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Just hang out in the emc area; there is always something going on. :-) Dave On May 6, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Ertley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale Dale, I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class. It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how they each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality men. It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and patient. I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much worth the time, effort and expense. thanks Stuart -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Mr. Stevenson or Mr. Engvall, Can you suggest a motel near to the action. Has anyone put together a list of people who might like to room and/or drive togather and split the cost? Thank you Dale Dave Engvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just hang out in the emc area; there is always something going on. :-) Dave On May 6, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Ertley Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale Dale, I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class. It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how they each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality men. It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and patient. I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much worth the time, effort and expense. thanks Stuart -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Dale Ertley wrote: Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. I'm not sure exactly what formal classes there will be. I hope we can have something more organized than last year. Ray Henry will be there, so that is likely to be a guarantee! But, even without formal classes, we will have a true EMC critical mass there as usual. Just buttonhole one of the developers and ask a question. I'm planning on doing two classes that are oriented a bit toward my products. But, maybe I need to do a general class as well, mostly focusing on the retrofit process and selection of components. If you don't have EMC running yet, bring your computer and we will get it installed and at least partially configured for your own setup. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
-- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Ertley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008 To: Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mr. Stevenson or Mr. Engvall, Can you suggest a motel near to the action. Has anyone put together a list of people who might like to room and/or drive togather and split the cost? Thank you Dale http://www.cnc-workshop.com/lodging.htm try this link - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Dale Ertley wrote: Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale Ray Henry is planning classes - I believe he is going to have several computers networked together and hooked to a small mill so students can actually run the machine. I'll let him fill in the details. Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
You get to take your chances. Several of the attendees stayed at the Econo Inn. I stayed there two years ago. They had just changed the beds and the new ones were too firm for me. I will stay at the Holiday Inn Express which is more expensive and farther away; but then my wife will be there also. The Econo Inn is about as close as any motel I'm aware of. Price two years ago was $50/nite. HTH. Dave On May 6, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Dale Ertley wrote: Mr. Stevenson or Mr. Engvall, Can you suggest a motel near to the action. Has anyone put together a list of people who might like to room and/ or drive togather and split the cost? Thank you Dale Dave Engvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just hang out in the emc area; there is always something going on. :-) Dave On May 6, 2008, at 6:48 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Ertley Subject: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale Dale, I attended last year. It was my first year. I attended one class. It was very helpful but the most help I found was getting to know the developers. I tried to just be an observer. I tried to not interfere with their projects. I watched and listened to get a feel for how they each thought and worked. All involved are down to earth, quality men. It is a pleasure to deal with them. They are very helpful and patient. I will attend this year with the same attitude. It is very much worth the time, effort and expense. thanks Stuart -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// java.sun.com/javaone___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during the week. Ray On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Ray Henry wrote: Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during the week. Ray Looks like a few extra tables will be needed this year!! Last year it was a squeese when I setup my little Gecko and servo board. Ed. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Dave Engvall wrote: You get to take your chances. Several of the attendees stayed at the Econo Inn. I stayed there two years ago. They had just changed the beds and the new ones were too firm for me. I will stay at the Holiday Inn Express which is more expensive and farther away; but then my wife will be there also. The Econo Inn is about as close as any motel I'm aware of. Price two years ago was $50/nite. All the above is true. But, you can also bring your camper/RV and stay AT the Workshop! There is another low-budget motel there that I stayed in a couple years ago. No way would my family stay at such a dive! Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008
Hi I want to ask about Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Is this programming with G code? I think that use G code to program part possible to find in every community college. Help in G code programming is every way. What is impossible to find it is EMC2 inside. Learn how to make special G code for example 555- G555 with special move is much more important. To learn about G code programming do not need to go to EMC2 fest. Unfortunately the are one place to find about inside architect of EMC2 and it is EMC2 fest. I think that need to establish on line school about EMC2 structure and use ENC2 FEST as a culmination point. I am sure that tuition fee should be applied to on line school! Thanks Aram Hi Dale I'll be bringing a few computers that I want/plan to network together into some sort of 8.04-EMC2 lab. My first class at will start at 8:00 am will be a Linux/EMC2 intro. Monday -- Starting EMC2 in the Ubuntu Linux environment. Tuesday-- EMC2 operator interfaces Wednesday -- Hand coded part programs part 1 Thursday -- Hand coded part programs 2 Friday -- Part programming assistants Beyond this I'll plan to be in/around the lab for a couple hours each day when users can sign up for machines and test ideas and seek help. I'm hoping that several others will also offer classes in the lab during the week. Ray On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:27 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote: Hello, Will there be any good training for newbies at the EMC Fest 2008? I am new to EMC. I am also in the process of putting a 4+ axis (xyzw+) full size mill on EMC2. Thank you Dale __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008 Motor Mount Project
Do you guys have the material for the motor mounts? I'm assuming it is 6061 1/2 thick mill finish... Does anyone have the print on this project? If I can be some help with the g codes or fixture plate let me know... John - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
