Re: [expert] A new problem with linux (all of 'em)

[Andreas Spengler]

Hi there,

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Civileme wrote:

> Steve Philp wrote:
> 
> > Civileme wrote:
> > >
> > > Trend ChipAwayVIrus(R) On Guard Ver 1.63A
> > > [SNIP]
> > > My reaction, since Trend doesn't have a consumer complaints dept, was to
> > > write FIC Sales and sever my relationship.  I will no longer offer
> > > computers with FIC boards until they change their policy.  I'll also
> > > copy this to Slashdot and see if a few folks feel interested in
> > > slashdotting www.antivirus.com, or FIC.
> >
> > Can't you turn it off in the BIOS?  The Abit BP6 board I own also has
> > virus detection, but it's toggle-able in the BIOS.
> > --
> > Steve Philp
> > Network Administrator
> > Advance Packaging Corporation
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Noppers--no such option.  Nor on the web sites.  Nor on the CD that came with
> it.  I asked where I could, for patches that would allow it to be turned
> off... No such luck.
> 
> Still, the idea that a virus detection program would suspect LILO smells like
> a deliberate attack.
> 
> Civileme

I would suggest visiting their website www.antivirus.com and suggesting
in a polite way, that their software is very annoying and that its
harmful for their business if more people hear about this...

Greets,

Andreas Spengler

[expert] ppp problem

[David Hart]

This is kind of a shot in the dark, but maybe somebody out there will
have a clue. One of the local dial-up ISP's I use recently mergered with a
larger organization, and part of the process involved making the old DNS
servers and other local hardware redundant, as well as "upgrading" their lines
(and possibly other hardware). Before these changes, I had no problems using
KPPP to establish a connection. Just plug in the DNS and phone numbers and off
we go. But since the changes were made, I get nothing. To be precise, I dial
up, it logs in, everything seems fine, but Netscape goes nowhere. The
connection seems to be there, but addresses never resolve and I'm left
looking at a blank browser window forever. Same thing applies with any other
net utility I try. Now the weird thing is that using exactly the same
configuration from Dial-Up Networking on my win98 partition works just fine.
Same DNS, same everything, except it actually works.
Now, of course, the ISP doesn't support linux and haven't been
particularly forecoming about PPP changes they made. So does anybody have a
guess I could try? The authorization protocol isn't the problem, so I'm
guessing there might be some PPP parameters that dial-up networking can figure
out on it's own, but need to be manually entered for KPPP.
Help?

 -- 
David Hart
Vincity Design
*Proudly sent from Linux Mandrake 6.1*

Re: [expert] A new problem with linux (all of 'em)

[David Hart]

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Civileme wrote:
> Still, the idea that a virus detection program would suspect LILO smells like
> a deliberate attack.

While the fact that the detection can't be disabled truly sucks, I
wouldn't get too paranoid yet. Installing win95 with bios virus detection
enabled has crashed the installs for me. Haven't tried with 98, but I suspect
the same may be true. I also seem to remember some issues with bios virus
detection and the NT boot loader and/or installation.

 -- 
David Hart
Vincity Design
*Proudly sent from Linux Mandrake 6.1*

Re: [expert] A new problem with linux (all of 'em)

[Steve Philp]

Civileme wrote:
> 
> Steve Philp wrote:
> 
> > Civileme wrote:
> > >
> > > Trend ChipAwayVIrus(R) On Guard Ver 1.63A
> > > [SNIP]
> > > My reaction, since Trend doesn't have a consumer complaints dept, was to
> > > write FIC Sales and sever my relationship.  I will no longer offer
> > > computers with FIC boards until they change their policy.  I'll also
> > > copy this to Slashdot and see if a few folks feel interested in
> > > slashdotting www.antivirus.com, or FIC.
> >
> > Can't you turn it off in the BIOS?  The Abit BP6 board I own also has
> > virus detection, but it's toggle-able in the BIOS.
> > --
> > Steve Philp
> > Network Administrator
> > Advance Packaging Corporation
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Noppers--no such option.  Nor on the web sites.  Nor on the CD that came with
> it.  I asked where I could, for patches that would allow it to be turned
> off... No such luck.
> 
> Still, the idea that a virus detection program would suspect LILO smells like
> a deliberate attack.

I doubt it's an attack.  My last three motherboards have all carried
anti-virus stuff in the BIOS.  Can't say I've ever turned it on though.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[expert] kde desktop

[Nikodemus Karlsson]

Hi!
I'm trying to get rid of the mount icons on my kde desktop (Mandrake6.1). But
everytime I delete one of them, all the "standard" icons appears (including
the diskette- and cd-icons). I made my own skeleton-directory without these
icons on the desktop, with the same result for a new user. Anybody who knows how
to do?

TIA
Nikodemus 

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Re: [expert] Q3TEST/Linux/Banshee/GL problem

[Lord And Master;)]

Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:

> Svante,
> >
> > q3demoTEST-1.10-5 works OK on a rawhide/Matrox Millenuim/Voodoo 2 PC using
> > libMesaVoodoGL.so.3.3, as well as q3test-1.0.8 with libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.1.
>
> Where do you get libMesaVoodoGL ??
>
> --
> ==
> Sheldon Lee Wenhttp://members.xoom.com/Lycadican
> "Superstition is a word the ignorant use to describe their ignorance."
>   -- Sifu.
> ==

It's included in the q3

I don't run it though I use glx drivers for my matrox card so I'm not sure on how
well it works

Re: [expert] A new problem with linux (all of 'em)

[Civileme]

Steve Philp wrote:

> Civileme wrote:
> >
> > Trend ChipAwayVIrus(R) On Guard Ver 1.63A
> > [SNIP]
> > My reaction, since Trend doesn't have a consumer complaints dept, was to
> > write FIC Sales and sever my relationship.  I will no longer offer
> > computers with FIC boards until they change their policy.  I'll also
> > copy this to Slashdot and see if a few folks feel interested in
> > slashdotting www.antivirus.com, or FIC.
>
> Can't you turn it off in the BIOS?  The Abit BP6 board I own also has
> virus detection, but it's toggle-able in the BIOS.
> --
> Steve Philp
> Network Administrator
> Advance Packaging Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Noppers--no such option.  Nor on the web sites.  Nor on the CD that came with
it.  I asked where I could, for patches that would allow it to be turned
off... No such luck.

Still, the idea that a virus detection program would suspect LILO smells like
a deliberate attack.

Civileme

Re: [expert] Q3TEST/Linux/Banshee/GL problem

[Sheldon Lee Wen]

Svante,
> 
> q3demoTEST-1.10-5 works OK on a rawhide/Matrox Millenuim/Voodoo 2 PC using
> libMesaVoodoGL.so.3.3, as well as q3test-1.0.8 with libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.1.

Where do you get libMesaVoodoGL ??

-- 
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"Superstition is a word the ignorant use to describe their ignorance."
  -- Sifu.
==

Re: [expert] A new problem with linux (all of 'em)

[Dana Laude]

Try turning off the virus detection in your BIOS. (helll!!) ;)

Regards,

Dana

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> Trend ChipAwayVIrus(R) On Guard Ver 1.63A

Re: [expert] segmentation fault/linuxconf

[Civileme]

"Carsten M. Larsen" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I posted this on "newbie" a couple of weeks ago, noboby seemed to have any 
>suggestions...so let's try the experts :o)
>
> When I try to run linuxconf (or userconf for that matter) from /bin on the server 
>via telnet I get the message "segmentation fault" . Hmmm. If I log in as root 
>directly on the servermachine and try to run linuxconf the system "just" hangs and I 
>have to drop to another shell for shutdown/reboot (killing the process is useless)
> If the linuxconf is somehow corrupted--- is it possble to reinstall it somehow??
>
> Anyone got any ideas /seen it/done it/been there??
>
> --
> Carsten

I think in this case you are stretching he program beyond its intended limits.  Not 
everything can run over telnet.

The only other item I can think of is that telnetting in as root is by default 
prohibited.  You would need to change the permissions if you have not already done so. 
 I AM able to reproduce your error.

For the same effect, from the GUI world, try this

http://www.webmin.com/webmin/

It's pretty neat, and will run from Netscape (and from Konqueror if you set up the URL 
properly)

Civileme

Re: [expert] telnet connection

[spiderken]

Kenny,

I encountered this problem before.  The tcp wrapper tries to resolve your hostname.  
You should check whether you enabled the NIS host lookup in /etc/nsswitch.conf before 
DNS or FILE.  Check also you hostname is included in the local host file or DNS.  If 
you are not using any NIS domain, you should put [NOTFOUND=RETURN] after FILE, DNS.  
Otherwise it will keep trying to resolve your hostname.  But if you put 
[NOTFOUND=RETURN] there, it will stop trying after lookup through FILE and DNS fails.

Hope that it helps.

Ken

--
Hi, I just installed Mandrake 6.0 on my machine, when  I tried
to connect to this machine from another using Telnet the client
would just refuse to connect through. I have checked that 
telnetd are setup properly in inet. 
Can anybody help?

The following is the message I get in xterm for telnet 
connection;

$ telnet 192.168.1.1
Trying 192.168.1.1...
Connected to 192.168.1.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host. 


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Re: [expert] A new problem with linux (all of 'em)

[Steve Philp]

Civileme wrote:
> 
> Trend ChipAwayVIrus(R) On Guard Ver 1.63A
> [SNIP]
> My reaction, since Trend doesn't have a consumer complaints dept, was to
> write FIC Sales and sever my relationship.  I will no longer offer
> computers with FIC boards until they change their policy.  I'll also
> copy this to Slashdot and see if a few folks feel interested in
> slashdotting www.antivirus.com, or FIC.

Can't you turn it off in the BIOS?  The Abit BP6 board I own also has
virus detection, but it's toggle-able in the BIOS.
-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] Connection to X server ?

[Joachim Holst]

On tor, 25 nov 1999, you wrote:
> :~>And if you're asked to create a non privileged user at install time it's
> :~>in hope you'll remember to login as such a user and "su" only when needed.
> :~>Instead of happily work your everyday X session as root, like any Windoze
> :~>bozo... ;-)))
> 
> "su"-ing in an x-term will get you to exactly the kind of the situation
> that you start wanting to allow access to X... I suppose there must be
> some good way to allow it, but until someone comes with anything better,
> how about slogin? You will probably need slogin anyway, and you can always
> restrict the logins from "outside" to localhost (in host.allow/deny) if
> you do not need to connect from outside. Running ssh-daemon is simple, and
> as a bonus you get the DISPLAY set up for you authomatically.
>   
> I have ssh-demon running everywhere, and use "su" very seldomly - it is
> very convenient, although an overkill for a single machine.

Sounds interesting. I'm quite obsessed with security (had a boss who used to
check my history file in Netscape on the windows box at work), and I'm in the
process of setting up a Linux internet server/gateway. So far, I have decided
to deactivate the normal telnet and reroute it to a PacketRadio BBS system
running as a normal user and only allow SSH connects to the machine itself.

/Jocke!
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Re: [expert] Connection to X server ?

[Joachim Holst]

On tor, 25 nov 1999, you wrote:
> Joachim Holst wrote:
> 
> > I an't see how that fits in. When I installed the system, it asked me to
> > add a users and in wich runlevel I wold like too boot. If it was done for
> > security reasons, I should not have been asked to add a user. Redhat that
> > doesn't ask for a useraccount during install (at least not 6.0) doesn't
> > behave that way and in RedHat you have to manually give users access to
> > CD-Rom and floppy drives.
> > 
> > So nah, I don't buy your  argument..
> 
> All right.
> 
> You don't, but most of us who administrate Linux boxes in networking
> environment do.
> 
> If you really need a proof, try this:
> 
> - open an X session as usual then "xhost +localhost" in a shell
> - telnet into your computer from another one, with another username
>   (you may login with your username from a virtual console as well
>   but the demonstration will be more general the other way)
> - from there type this:
> 
> export DISPLAY=:0 && while : ; do xmessage "do you catch it?" ; done
> 

i know about this. But, xhost has a few optional parameters like : xhost
+local:localhost. This will enable local users to access the X server.
Doing this via telnet is not allowed in RedHat either. I fel like were talking
about two different things here. I'm talking local and you are talking network.
Now I'm no network administrator of some kind (don't feel qualified enough to
fully administrate a Linux system and windows is something that I wouldn't like
to administer), but I agree. when talking about network access the sysadmin
should carefully consider what hosts will have access to the system. Setting
this to something that might be exploited by default, is stupid. Makes me think
about win2K. In the Swedish version, one can log on as guest and start deleting
files in the system directory.

> If Redhat 6.0 allows this without an xhost call being needed, this is
> a security breach they [have fixed already|will fix soon], not a
> comfortable feature.
> 
> And if you're asked to create a non privileged user at install time it's
> in hope you'll remember to login as such a user and "su" only when needed.
> Instead of happily work your everyday X session as root, like any Windoze
> bozo... ;-)))
> 

Of course I log on as a regular user. When I need to do something more advanced
I either SU or go root in a console window.

about windows, it's basically a dos session with a nice (???) graphical shell
and since DOS is single taskin, windows also is. The feature is that it can
single task multiple tasks whitout having to exit the application If I'm not
misstaking, there also was a quite widely used DOS package for this. Don't
remember the name thoug.

Anyhow, to get back on topic, the problem only occurs when dialing out with
KPPP (at least that's what I have noticed this far). I have set my system up tu
use diald and I'll se what hapens.

Thank's for the reply.

Kind reguards
/Jocke!

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[expert] segmentation fault/linuxconf

[Carsten M. Larsen]

Hi,

I posted this on "newbie" a couple of weeks ago, noboby seemed to have any 
suggestions...so let's try the experts :o)

When I try to run linuxconf (or userconf for that matter) from /bin on the server via 
telnet I get the message "segmentation fault" . Hmmm. If I log in as root directly on 
the servermachine and try to run linuxconf the system "just" hangs and I have to drop 
to another shell for shutdown/reboot (killing the process is useless)
If the linuxconf is somehow corrupted--- is it possble to reinstall it somehow??

Anyone got any ideas /seen it/done it/been there??

--
Carsten

Re: [expert] 6.1 bugs: rpm & 2.2.13-22mdk kernel

[Roberto A. F.]

Nick Kay wrote:

> >configured.  I changed my processor to a PPro, and turned SMP off.  I left
> >everything else at default.  Ran 'make bzImage'.  gcc quickly dies with
> >multiply defined stuff.
> >

I used 2.2.13-22 kernel and it's present me near usually penguin and the SMP !

I'm not sure... but  this means that this kernel have activated dual-processor
optimization ?

>
> Can we have the errors that the compilation threw out? It's most
> likely that there is a kernel configuration problem.
> A rundown of your hardware setup would be useful too.
>
> tar
> nick@nexnix

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[expert] Suggestion for distribution of source file packages.

[Svante Signell]

Hi all,

I have a suggestion:

I order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce
duplication, distribute the source files in .tar.gz or .tar.bz2
format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and
debian source files.

Included in these tarballs add .spec and/or .dsc files together with
the original .tar.gz package and .diff.gz files. Then everybody
interested can build source/binary files for their own preferred
distribution using the same source files!!

Another issue is to merge the binary file formats .deb and .rpm :(

This mail is sent to the lists I'm subscribing to. I'm currently
running Rawhide-19991117, Redhat 6.1, Debian 2.1, Suse 6.2 and
Mandrake 6.1 on different computers and disks.

Comments?

Svante Signell

RE: [expert] Q3TEST/Linux/Banshee/GL problem

[Svante Signell]

q3demoTEST-1.10-5 works OK on a rawhide/Matrox Millenuim/Voodoo 2 PC using
libMesaVoodoGL.so.3.3, as well as q3test-1.0.8 with libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.1.

Rickard Åberg writes:
 > I have problems with q3demo too... I get flickering textures and stuff, tho'
 > the sound works fine. The q3test versions before the q3demo worked just fine.
 > 
 > If you use OpenSoundSystem the sound MAY become fucked up, at least from my own
 > experience.
 > I installed the kernel modules for my card instead of using OSS, then q3 ran
 > just fine.
 > 
 > But I have (had) a voodoo2... so maybe the problem is global, ie. they really
 > fucked up the release?
 > 
 > I can't test anymore since my voodoo2 card seems to have hit the ground for
 > good. :( Don't know why, but one day it suddenly stopped working.
 > 
 > Rickard Åberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > "Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few 
 >  million people think you are?"
 > 
 > On 25-Nov-99 Svante Signell wrote:
 > > Hi, sending this to the list as well. Did not get any reply from
 > > ID. Anybody having the same experience?
 > > 
 > > Svante Signell
 > > 
 > > The combination of Mandrake6.1, Voodoo Banshee and
 > > libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.3 does not work with the latest demo:
 > > q3demoTEST-1.10-5.i386.rpm.
 > > 
 > > The older demo, q3test-1.08-glibc-2.i386.rpm, worked OK. However that
 > > version used the library libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.1. After trying, it was
 > > found that the new demo works OK with the old library.
 > > 
 > > Symptoms:
 > > The first screen with the flashing Quake III text seems to update the
 > > screen every two seconds or so. Also the sound hangs and the mouse is
 > > stuck in the upper left corner. Moving to play mode with the arrows
 > > results in normal mouse behaviour. However, after a few second of
 > > play, the sound hangs again and no movement is possible.

Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 amd et.al.

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, WH Bouterse wrote:

> Well here is the latest
> 
> This am after being on all night, netscape still working, able to get
> mail etc
> but after a couple hours working various programs;
> I try to access a web site, netscape stalls out, the 
> 'ld-linux.so.2'  in 'top' and 'ps ax' with 'dns helper' appears.
> 
> I shutdown amd, no change.
> I check inetd, yes it is up and running
> 
> ifconfig shows nothing unusual; however no remote ping, 
> telnet, etc. but locahost okay. 
> 
> I exit and log out of everything and try again, No Luck
> I reboot, No Luck
> I do a 'cold boot', No Luck
> 
> At System Commanders prompt I boot into M$, everything works fine !!!???
> 
> I restart and boot into L-M 6.1, NOW REMOTE IS WORKING AGAIN !!!??? 
> "But for Howlong", I ask?
> 
> Conclusions:
> 
> 1)Somehow outside access gets disabled.
> 2)Usually first noticed using Netscape 
> 3)Cannot necessarily blame Netscape on this one
> as rebooting and not bringing up Netscape I still
> have no remote access.
> 4) Access out of my nic card and cable-modem is disabled somehow
> 5) M$ IS FIXING MY LINUX-MANDRAKE PLEASE HELP
> BEFORE BILL GATES FINDS OUT !!!:>) 

One of two things is shutting you down, 

dhcp doesn't renew its lease 
(try switching pump for dhcp or dhcp for pump, as your bootproto for the
ethX)

or 

You have an auto senseing 10/100 network card, that can hopefully be set
with a util to use a specified speed.
 
> William Bouterse
> Juneau, Alaska
> 

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[expert] telnet connection

[Kenny Lim]

Hi, I just installed Mandrake 6.0 on my machine, when  I tried to connect to this 
machine from another using Telnet the client would just refuse to connect 
through. I have checked that telnetd are setup properly in inet. 
Can anybody help?

The following is the message I get in xterm for telnet connection;

$ telnet 192.168.1.1
Trying 192.168.1.1...
Connected to 192.168.1.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host. 


TIA,
Kenny

Re: [expert] /bin/sh: /sbin/rmmod: No such file or directory

[Steve Philp]

Michael Webb wrote:
> 
> Just a quick one here.
> How do I fix this probleme?
> It has developed  since a reboot (no changes where made, was using a switch
> box and though I was giving the windows box a three finger salute but
> instead rebooted th elinux box..DOH!).

Reinstall the modutils package.

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Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[expert] A new problem with linux (all of 'em)

[Civileme]

Trend ChipAwayVIrus(R) On Guard Ver 1.63A

reads the screen as the BIOS does the Power-On Self-Test
then we see after a while

LILO Boot:

and type in dos or just wait

When it says

Loading (either linux or dos)

There is a CHIRP

And a RED screen with bright YELLOW Text Appears

"Trend ChipAwayVirus has detected a boot virus on your hard disk!

Press  for more information (recommended)
   to continue booting

Then a little motto and a web site

And a little face running along a line of dots which does a
purple-background white TCAV On-Guard!! over itself when it reaches the
end of each line.

If you hit  you get the screen

"To prevent data lost from your computer,
Trend ChipAwayVirus will restart your system

Insert a bootable clean floppy disk into your floppy driver
press  to restart your system
   to go back previous screen

For more information on viruses, visit (more FOO)
 (and the little face is there, too)

Now if you Press  to continue you get this screen...

"If you continue to boot up your system, the virus will be left in your
computer.
Are you sure you want to continue the boot up procedure?

Press  to continue to boot up anyway.
   to return to the previous screen.

For more information on viruses, visit www.antivirus.com"

(and we have the little face)

Folks, this board is going into lots of Super-7 computers.  It is a
Micro-ATX with video and sound.  I know one question on the newbie list
was directed at it because I remember going nuts looking for a Trident
8400 AGP trying to answer the question (It is actually a CyberBlade
17(generic) for XFree86).

And it has antivirus software on it, not removable, that will scare
newbies to hell because it sees LILO as a virus
I already see attacks in the way MS is positioning its servers for cable
modems and the pump/dhcp difficulties people are having, but this one is
far more blatant.

You could expect Trend to be on the Microsoft side because if no one
used MS, Trend would have no business.  I mean, who would buy an
anti-virus program for linux?  If you know anyone, send him my way,
cause I have a great deal for him on a Bridge near Brooklyn.

My reaction, since Trend doesn't have a consumer complaints dept, was to
write FIC Sales and sever my relationship.  I will no longer offer
computers with FIC boards until they change their policy.  I'll also
copy this to Slashdot and see if a few folks feel interested in
slashdotting www.antivirus.com, or FIC.

Anyone else think of any responses?  The copyright holder to LILO,
perhaps, should find an attorney on a no-win, no fee basis and join the
throng suing Microsoft, once the proof of the link is discovered.

I suppose you could argue that LILO is a Windows exploit, since booting
into linux on the same system exposes all the MS files to arbitrary
treatment by a file manager, but it is NOT correct to assume that all
these computers will be using Windows.

Civileme

[expert] Software RAID install

[Scott Patten]

I just did a search of the archives and didn't see this.  Sorry if this
has been covered already - I'm new to the list.

I want to install to a software raid device (/dev/md0)  I can create the
device prior to install.  I have a 2.2.13ac kernel with software raid
support that I can place on the install disk.  This will autodetect and
autostart the raid.  So it will be available for the install.  I guess my
question is whether the install system will allow me to use /dev/md0, for
example, instead of /dev/hdx?

I'm trying to avoid using a small install partition and doing the copy
thing.  This system has more drives in it than the box can already handle
and I can't afford to waste the space for an install.

BTW, I'll be booting from a diskette and/or CD after the install.  This is
done bye using root=900.  For those thinking about using software
raid get 2.2.13ac and ignore all the initrd stuff from the How-To.  The
kernel will start the raid if the partition types are set to raid - very
nice.

Thanks,

Scott

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[expert] /bin/sh: /sbin/rmmod: No such file or directory

[Michael Webb]

Just a quick one here.
How do I fix this probleme?
It has developed  since a reboot (no changes where made, was using a switch
box and though I was giving the windows box a three finger salute but
instead rebooted th elinux box..DOH!).

Cheers in advance

Michael

[expert] IBM 4/16 Token Ring Adapter Driver

[Simpson, Rob]

Does anyone know where I can find a linux driver for an IBM 4/16 Token Ring
Adapter that will support DHCP. The driver that ships with Mandrake 6.0 does
not work.



 Simpson, Rob.vcf

Re: [expert] 6.1 bugs: rpm & 2.2.13-22mdk kernel

[Roberto A. F.]

I've upgraded 2.2.13-22mdk kernel with 2.2.13-29mdk kernel but now I see
in dmesg:

raid5: measuring checksumming speed
raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
   pII_mmx   :   745.236 MB/sec
   p5_mmx:   774.954 MB/sec
   8regs :   410.337 MB/sec
   32regs:   236.220 MB/sec
using fastest function: p5_mmx (774.954 MB/sec)

insted of 879.??? MB/sec for p5_mmx.

Two questions:

1) this means that this kernel is slower (about 11%) than 2.2.13-22  or not ?
2) I'm sure have P][ why optimization for p5_mmx is better for me ?

Thanks.
R.A.Foglietta

Re: [expert] uninstalled rpm

[Denis Havlik]

:~>Looks not to good for me, does it?
:~>I'll give it a try - see what happens.
:~>I suppose you mean that I have to do a reinstall of those found packages -  to
:~>update the database? Right?

Right. I have absolutely no idea how to recreate a database once it is
lost. What scares me is your story about "retreiving /var/.. stuff from
the backup and finding out that rpm still does not recognise it. This
should not happen AFAIK. 

Comments anyone?

again: good luck

Denis
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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Denis Havlik wrote:

> :~>killall -9 25893 means that you want to kill a process named 25893. No
> :~>process has this name!
> 
> Sorry, typing mistake. Here is cut'paste version:
> 
> [denis@marvin havlik]$ ps ax|grep nets 
> 27851 ?  Z 0:00 [netscape ] 
> 27864 pts/2 S 0:00 grep nets

it's already zombied...
 
>  > 
> 
> [denis@marvin havlik]$ kill -9 27851 
> [denis@marvin havlik]$ killall -9 netscape 
> 
> 

of course not it's already dead

> [denis@marvin havlik]$ ps ax|grep nets 
> 27851 ?  Z 0:00 [netscape ] 
> 27867 pts/2 S 0:00 grep nets
> 
> Netscape does not even notice I have tried to kill it. Obviously, the
> netscape pretends to be a library, or the library thinks it is a netscape.
> Whatever - it stinks. And, yes I know that I can kill the netscape by
> killing the library, but it stinks nevertheless.

Correct you have to kill it's parent proccess, or it will sit there in
defunct heaven..

> ?:-0
> 
>   Denis
> 

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Re: [expert] uninstalled rpm

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Herman Van Keer (softouch) wrote:

> Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
> 
> > What version did you originaly have, it shouldn't have removed the files
> > from /var/lib/rpm/ as rpm doesn't own them.
> >
> 
> I really don't remember - It's the one that comes with Mandrake 6.0 (Venus)

:) that narrows it down to fewwer cd's to check atleast
 
> I did try to rpm --initdb (which can be done without causing harm to any

--initdb creates a new clean db (which can't be done without causeing
harm, it doesn't even bother to look at the files it just makes new ones)

> existing database) and rpm --rebuilddb - even restored from tape the
> /var/lib/rpm/* - no luck

Restoreing from tape will work if your new (hand compiled) rpm is looking
in the same place as the rpm rpm look. (oh next time just rpm2cpio,
instead of recompileing)
 
> When I try rpm -qa, it only shows me the two rpm's I installed after the
> 'crash'
> 
> Herman
> 

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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 amd et.al.

[WH Bouterse]

Well here is the latest

This am after being on all night, netscape still working, able to get
mail etc
but after a couple hours working various programs;
I try to access a web site, netscape stalls out, the 
'ld-linux.so.2'  in 'top' and 'ps ax' with 'dns helper' appears.

I shutdown amd, no change.
I check inetd, yes it is up and running

ifconfig shows nothing unusual; however no remote ping, 
telnet, etc. but locahost okay. 

I exit and log out of everything and try again, No Luck
I reboot, No Luck
I do a 'cold boot', No Luck

At System Commanders prompt I boot into M$, everything works fine !!!???

I restart and boot into L-M 6.1, NOW REMOTE IS WORKING AGAIN !!!??? 
"But for Howlong", I ask?

Conclusions:

1)Somehow outside access gets disabled.
2)Usually first noticed using Netscape 
3)Cannot necessarily blame Netscape on this one
as rebooting and not bringing up Netscape I still
have no remote access.
4) Access out of my nic card and cable-modem is disabled somehow
5) M$ IS FIXING MY LINUX-MANDRAKE PLEASE HELP
BEFORE BILL GATES FINDS OUT !!!:>) 


William Bouterse
Juneau, Alaska

Re: [expert] uninstalled rpm

[Herman Van Keer (softouch)]

Sylvain Vignaud wrote:

> > Try rpm --rebuilddb
> Useless. When you erased rpm, the database seems to have been erased
> too. So there's no rpm information on your disk anymore. You are to
> reinstall your rpm in order to get back the database and not to have
> dependancies problem when installing new rpm.

this makes sense, and was the kind of thing I was afraid for.
Now then my quesion:
Is there a utility to search what is on the disk and recreates the database or
do I have to 'reinstall' all the needed packages - doing that would recreate
the database (piece by piece)?

Thanks,
Herman

[expert] Checking Module Dependencies Hangs on Boot

[Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.]

I had made an abortivve attemt to upgrade v6.0 to v6.1 on my K6-3/300 
(128MB RAM), and got so frustrated that I reverted to v6.0.  Now, the boot 
process hangs on checking module dependencies.  I havent' tested it, but I 
think that it would sit there for an infinite period if I didn't hit 
CTRL-C.  After hitting CTRL-C the boot proceeds normally and all of the 
processes generate a PASSED message.

Any comments as to the solution to this rather minor annoyance will be 
appreciated.

Second topic:  The main reason that I wanted to upgrade, in addition to 
getting WordPerfect on of the CD's in the power pack, was to get the new 
version of KDE.  Will the new KDE work with v6.0?

Thanks in advance.

Re: [expert] uninstalled rpm

[Herman Van Keer (softouch)]

Denis Havlik wrote:

> ajajaj... If you know which packages are on your disk, then just save
> "/etc" (and wherever else you made changes to the system), and reinstall
> all the packages. In case you have no idea which packages are on the
> system... Ahem. If your box had just a simple system on it - save
> "/etc" reinstal and put the /etc back.
>
> In case your system was rather complicated Pff... Try finding out
> which packages are installed, by comparing the installed files to those
> from the rpm packages. You will need to write a script for that, unles
> you want to become completely crazy. Something along the following lines:
>
> 1) make a list of all the files in RPM-packages
> 2) compare them with your installed files
>
> This should give you a list of installed packages on your system.
>
> Good luck -you will need it.
>
> Denis

Thanks,

Looks not to good for me, does it?
I'll give it a try - see what happens.
I suppose you mean that I have to do a reinstall of those found packages -  to
update the database? Right?

Herman

Re: [expert] uninstalled rpm

[Herman Van Keer (softouch)]

Larry Sword wrote:

> "Herman Van Keer (softouch)" wrote:
>
> > > > Can I recreate the database? Or do I have to reinstall every rpm to get
> > > > the database up to date?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Herman
> > >
> > > Try rpm --rebuilddb
> >
> > I tried that before (I should have told it), but this only rebuilds an
> > existing database -  it does not recreate a database based on the installed
> > software.
> > Or do I miss something?
> >
> > Thanks anyway,
> > Herman
>
> I lost my db before and thought I had used the  rpm --rebuilddb. However after
> reading the man rpm , Rebuilding Database Options, it may have been: rpm

--initdb?
Read that too, and tried it - but no - no new database - I installed two new
rpm's and those are the only one that are displayed, using rpm -qa

I even tried to restore the /var/lib/rpm/* - seems not to work
(and the packages.rpm is about 8Gb)

Herman

Re: [expert] uninstalled rpm

[Herman Van Keer (softouch)]

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

> What version did you originaly have, it shouldn't have removed the files
> from /var/lib/rpm/ as rpm doesn't own them.
>

I really don't remember - It's the one that comes with Mandrake 6.0 (Venus)

I did try to rpm --initdb (which can be done without causing harm to any
existing database) and rpm --rebuilddb - even restored from tape the
/var/lib/rpm/* - no luck

When I try rpm -qa, it only shows me the two rpm's I installed after the
'crash'

Herman

Re: [expert] Connection to X server ?

[Denis Havlik]

:~>And if you're asked to create a non privileged user at install time it's
:~>in hope you'll remember to login as such a user and "su" only when needed.
:~>Instead of happily work your everyday X session as root, like any Windoze
:~>bozo... ;-)))

"su"-ing in an x-term will get you to exactly the kind of the situation
that you start wanting to allow access to X... I suppose there must be
some good way to allow it, but until someone comes with anything better,
how about slogin? You will probably need slogin anyway, and you can always
restrict the logins from "outside" to localhost (in host.allow/deny) if
you do not need to connect from outside. Running ssh-daemon is simple, and
as a bonus you get the DISPLAY set up for you authomatically.
  
I have ssh-demon running everywhere, and use "su" very seldomly - it is
very convenient, although an overkill for a single machine.

Denis 
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Re: [expert] Connection to X server ?

[Yann-Erick Proy]

Joachim Holst wrote:

> I an't see how that fits in. When I installed the system, it asked me to
> add a users and in wich runlevel I wold like too boot. If it was done for
> security reasons, I should not have been asked to add a user. Redhat that
> doesn't ask for a useraccount during install (at least not 6.0) doesn't
> behave that way and in RedHat you have to manually give users access to
> CD-Rom and floppy drives.
> 
> So nah, I don't buy your  argument..

All right.

You don't, but most of us who administrate Linux boxes in networking
environment do.

If you really need a proof, try this:

- open an X session as usual then "xhost +localhost" in a shell
- telnet into your computer from another one, with another username
  (you may login with your username from a virtual console as well
  but the demonstration will be more general the other way)
- from there type this:

export DISPLAY=:0 && while : ; do xmessage "do you catch it?" ; done

If Redhat 6.0 allows this without an xhost call being needed, this is
a security breach they [have fixed already|will fix soon], not a
comfortable feature.

And if you're asked to create a non privileged user at install time it's
in hope you'll remember to login as such a user and "su" only when needed.
Instead of happily work your everyday X session as root, like any Windoze
bozo... ;-)))

Kind regards,

Yann

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La diversité est source de richesse.

Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2 and amd

[Denis Havlik]

:~>Has anyone else killed 'amd'  permanently and lived to tell the tale !!

I have been using both "amd" and "autofs" since the "autofs" came to life,
and i can assure you that "autofs" runs much more reliably than amd.

Therefore, I use autofs to mount "homes" (every machine exports its home
directory to "thrusted-hosts" netgroup, and autofs mounts all the "home"
directories it can see to /homes/MACHINE). Basically, these "homes"
directories have never given me any headache.

Then, I had to add an user whose home-directory came from completely
different system, and it was not exported as "home", but as
"home/MACHINE", or so - and I thought - what the hell, I will just give
him a "/net/MACHINE/home/MACHINE"  path to his home-directory and forget
about it. Guess what? Several days later, amd got stuck and a few days of
calculations were gone. This happened repeatedly, so i had to add a rule
to "autofs" config file and everything works OK since then.

I still keep "amd" running with default settings, because i cannot bring
the "autofs" to mount "anything" under "/net" the way amd does (anybody
knows how to do it), but I do not use it for anything crytical anymore. 

:~>The auto-mount of amd is not necessary but I take it that means I would
:~>have to manually 'mount' each file system/partition ? My brain is tired
:~>again so bear with me 
:~>if this is all common knowledge...???

Either that, or you mount everything from "fstab" or you let the "autofs"
do it.

cu
Denis
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Re: [expert] ld-linux.so.2

[Denis Havlik]

:~>killall -9 25893 means that you want to kill a process named 25893. No
:~>process has this name!

Sorry, typing mistake. Here is cut'paste version:

[denis@marvin havlik]$ ps ax|grep nets 
27851 ?  Z 0:00 [netscape ] 
27864 pts/2 S 0:00 grep nets

 > 

[denis@marvin havlik]$ kill -9 27851 
[denis@marvin havlik]$ killall -9 netscape 



[denis@marvin havlik]$ ps ax|grep nets 
27851 ?  Z 0:00 [netscape ] 
27867 pts/2 S 0:00 grep nets

Netscape does not even notice I have tried to kill it. Obviously, the
netscape pretends to be a library, or the library thinks it is a netscape.
Whatever - it stinks. And, yes I know that I can kill the netscape by
killing the library, but it stinks nevertheless.

?:-0

Denis

Re: [expert] NFS compiling paranoia!!!!!!!!!

[Denis Havlik]

:~>I'm getting CRAZY  trying to compile some codes under NFS mounted
:~>filesystems.
:~>
:~>I'm getting different behaviour by compiling locally (works fine) and
:~>compiling under the NFS mount...!!!
:~>But even when the code compies sucessfully at Red Hat 4.2 if I compare the
:~>objects sizes they show differences of 8 bytes when they're compiled locally
:~>(/tmp/somecode.o) or under the NFS mount (/home/user/somecode.o).
:~>
:~>At RedHat 6.0 the differences are 14 bytes instead of 8 ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?.
:~>(Doesn't work either).

No idea at all. I have been using the NFS+Linux for 3 years now, and only
problems I ever encountered were with StarOffice. Except for that, I have
seen problems with time - if some of the machines have a wrong time, you
can get very weird results on compilation.  

Actually, programs should not even know or care on which filesystem they
are (well, Star Offfice obviously does), so I think problem must be
somewhere else. Can you access the NFS-mounted directories normally?
Copyinig files to and from it and so...

Denis
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RE: [expert] Q3TEST/Linux/Banshee/GL problem

[Rickard Åberg]

I have problems with q3demo too... I get flickering textures and stuff, tho'
the sound works fine. The q3test versions before the q3demo worked just fine.

If you use OpenSoundSystem the sound MAY become fucked up, at least from my own
experience.
I installed the kernel modules for my card instead of using OSS, then q3 ran
just fine.

But I have (had) a voodoo2... so maybe the problem is global, ie. they really
fucked up the release?

I can't test anymore since my voodoo2 card seems to have hit the ground for
good. :( Don't know why, but one day it suddenly stopped working.

Rickard Åberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few 
 million people think you are?"

On 25-Nov-99 Svante Signell wrote:
> Hi, sending this to the list as well. Did not get any reply from
> ID. Anybody having the same experience?
> 
> Svante Signell
> 
> The combination of Mandrake6.1, Voodoo Banshee and
> libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.3 does not work with the latest demo:
> q3demoTEST-1.10-5.i386.rpm.
> 
> The older demo, q3test-1.08-glibc-2.i386.rpm, worked OK. However that
> version used the library libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.1. After trying, it was
> found that the new demo works OK with the old library.
> 
> Symptoms:
> The first screen with the flashing Quake III text seems to update the
> screen every two seconds or so. Also the sound hangs and the mouse is
> stuck in the upper left corner. Moving to play mode with the arrows
> results in normal mouse behaviour. However, after a few second of
> play, the sound hangs again and no movement is possible.

Re: [expert] Q3TEST/Linux/Banshee/GL problem

[Jean-Louis Debert]

Svante Signell wrote:
> The combination of Mandrake6.1, Voodoo Banshee and
> libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.3 does not work with the latest demo:
> q3demoTEST-1.10-5.i386.rpm.
> 
> The older demo, q3test-1.08-glibc-2.i386.rpm, worked OK. However that
> version used the library libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.1. After trying, it was
> found that the new demo works OK with the old library.


Probably nothing to do with Mandrake ... Besides, as seen on the
3dfx.glide.linux newsgroup, the Mesa 3.3 (which is a development
_unstable_ version anyhow, as per Mesa numbering scheme) seems to
be broken for a lot of people, including developers at 3dfx ...
So, best avoid it for the time being.


-- 
Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED]
74 Annemasse  France
old Linux fan

Re: [expert] Connection to X server ?

[Joachim Holst]

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Sergio Korlowsky wrote:

> >
> > Should that perhaps be reported as a bug sincne it's a new installation
> > without anything done to it (Kernel recompilation doesn't count).
> 
> Well no, I guess it was done on purpossed for security reasons
> so only authorized users can connect  to.
> 

I an't see how that fits in. When I installed the system, it asked me to
add a users and in wich runlevel I wold like too boot. If it was done for
security reasons, I should not have been asked to add a user. Redhat that
doesn't ask for a useraccount during install (at least not 6.0) doesn't
behave that way and in RedHat you have to manually give users access to
CD-Rom and floppy drives.

So nah, I don't buy your  argument..

/Jocke!
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