Re: [expert] A little vi help

2002-04-09 Thread Michael Holt

On stardate Mon, 8 Apr 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Randy Kramer wrote:

  Michael Holt wrote:
   I do have
   another question; I've read books that say they've were written using vi
   and I started wondering if you could actually apply fonts and control size
   of fonts as well as italics, bold, etc.  Is that possible?  Does vi have
   something built in that will allow you to format a document?

 AFAIK (and like J. Craig Woods said) there is nothing built into vi to
 let you do those kind of things.  I can imagine that someone who writes
 a book in vi uses one of two approaches (or a combination of the two):


Not built in, true, but I do almost all my documentation in vi/TeX. One
nice thing about vi is that you can filter sections of text through
external programs, or read directly from the stdout of any program. This
allows me to format a section of text by doing (trivial example):

 :10,50! fmt

For TeX code I've created a bunch of little helper scripts to do things
like plug in an image or format columns. E.g.:


#/bin/sh
   # epsinsert
GEOMETRY=`grep -A1 % Image geometry $1|tail -1`
# echo $GEOMETRY
WIDTH=`echo $GEOMETRY|cut -d' ' -f1`
HEIGHT=`echo $GEOMETRY|cut -d' ' -f2`

echo \\begin\{figure\}[label]
echo \\centering
echo \\includegraphics[height=${HEIGHT}pt,width=${WIDTH}pt]{$1}
echo \\caption\{ CAPTION \}
echo \\label\{label\}
echo \\end\{figure\}

This can be called with:
  :r! epsinsert images/somefile.eps

OK, that might have just left me a little behind; I'm going to do a search 
on google for tex and I'll get back to you!

Mike :-)

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Re: [expert] a long standing probelm .... apache site on a win32 part...

2002-04-09 Thread Alexander Skwar

»faisal gillani« sagte am 2002-04-08 um 21:03:58 -0700 :
 what might be causing this ?

How are you trying to access your site?  How did you setup the aliases?
What are the permissions on the directories up to the directory holding
your site?

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Re: [expert] HELP-weird log messages appearing every 15 seconds or so

2002-04-09 Thread Roberto Armenteros

That was a great answer, thank you very much, I am
going to start checking what you suggested.

   Roberto...
--- Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Roberto
 Armenteros
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Since i upgraded to Mandrake 8.2 I am getting the
  following log message from the kernel.  
  
  Apr  8 22:30:36 rarmente kernel: ll header:
  ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:50:da:da:c7:57:08:00
  
  Apr  8 22:32:36 rarmente kernel: martian source
  255.255.255.255 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth0
  
  I use swatch to monitor my log files and it is
  constantly showing this messages. I would
 appreciate
  if somebody gives me a hand to understand this
  message.
  
 Roberto
 
 Assuming both messages refer to the same packet,
 you've got a machine
 sending a wire broadcast (ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff) to the
 local broadcast
 (255.255.255.255) and claiming to be the loopback IP
 (127.0.0.1) -- the
 problem is that packets to/from the loopback must
 never appear on a LAN. 
 The sender has an ethernet card with the MAC address
 00:50:da:da:c7:57...
 
 I don't see a vendor code (00:50:da) for this card
 at

http://www.cavebear.com/CaveBear/Ethernet/vendor.html
 so I can't tell you
 who the vendor is.
 
 Hope the neighbouring machines on your eth0 is not
 too big...  if eth0 is
 connected to a DSL, you'll have to work with your
 local ISP to try to
 locate it.
 
 If you want to try to find it yourself, you can ping
 all the addresses in
 your subnet (individually or with ping -b
 255.255.255.255 -- add -I
 eth0 if you have other net adapters) and check the
 ARP cache with arp -a
 | grep -i 00:50:da.  If you get a hit, you will at
 least know the real IP
 | address of the offender.  Caution, it *could* be
 you...  
 
 HTH,
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Re: [expert] a long standing probelm .... apache site on a win32part...

2002-04-09 Thread KevinO

faisal gillani wrote:
 but it seems it only works when i copy the whole site
 into /var/www/html  which i dont want ..
 
 what might be causing this ?

Have you tried to make a symbolic link under /var/www/html that points to your 
fat directory ? How about changing the Document_Root entry in httpd.conf ?

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Re: [expert] A little vi help

2002-04-09 Thread J. Craig Woods

Michael Holt wrote:

 OK, that makes sense.  I'm new to vi but really enjoy the ability to move
 around by keystroke and not have to mess with the mouse.  I was wondering
 if there was a sort of common way the *nix people have done that I haven't
 seen yet; there are so many tools in the *nix world (TeX, LaTeX - I don't
 really know what those things are - yet) Word processors are great, but I
 tend to get a little lost in all the options they offer nowadays and there
 just seems to be something nice about sitting in front of a translucent,
 shaded Eterm window doing my work rather than an ugly gray desktop with
 click-able 'buttons' everywhere that I never can remember which one is
 which and with that I shall /rant
 
 Thanks!  Mike :-)

Yes, Mike so true. Many, many tools. And the best way to learn them is 
one at a time. That is why, in my *very* original post, I did not 
enumerate all the different ways to use the stdout process for different 
programs i.e. TeX, LaTeX, etc. As you have seen from some very good 
examples, provided by the list members here, there is always great 
flexibility in doing what you want to get done in UNIX/Linux. I would 
only caution you to learn vi as well as you can. Learn the keystrokes, 
insert mode, search patterns, bringing text in and out, etc. Once you 
feel good about these vi functions, you can take your data from vi to 
almost anywhere you want to go. Hey there is a jingo here: where do you 
wanna go, today? Truly, the choices are with us who work in UNIX/Linux.

The web page I posted on vi is a very simple means for learning some 
basic vi stuff.

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[expert] Two different IPs with 1 Ethernet card

2002-04-09 Thread Thanasis Koutras

Hi!

I have a PC with an Ethernet card in my LAN and I was wandering if there is
a way I could add a second network with a different IP, mailserver, ftp
server and so on Could anyone enlighten me on this?

TIA

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[expert] NFS Troubles

2002-04-09 Thread Sevatio

OS: LM8.2

Problem: Shut down process stops with the following message:

Unmounting NFS filesystem: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not registered
umount2: Device or resource busy
umount: /net: device is busy[FAILED]

QUESTION: Where do I go to stop this nonsense? - I've tried to not have 
NFS start on boot and I've also tried to shutdown NFS but this problem 
persists.  I don't even want to use NFS.

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] Two different IPs with 1 Ethernet card

2002-04-09 Thread Sevatio

Yeah, one of the ways that you can do this is to use linuxconf.

-Networking - Server tasks tab - IP Alias for virtual hosts - eth0 
- fill in the additional IP numbers.

Sevatio

Thanasis Koutras wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have a PC with an Ethernet card in my LAN and I was wandering if there is
 a way I could add a second network with a different IP, mailserver, ftp
 server and so on Could anyone enlighten me on this?
 
 TIA
 
 Thanasis
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread Brian Parish

Thanks for the heads up Lyvim.  Stupid question follows:

I am now downloading the rpm for what they call the Mandrake UP kernel. 
What does UP mean (apart from a familiar direction), or am I supposed to
know that?  I assume this is the right one, but only by process of
elimination i.e. not secure, not smp, not enterprise.

TIA
Brian

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 17:18, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
 Hey, get your new NVIDIA RPM's here! Version 2880 for LM82 --
 
 http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux
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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread Nick Thompson

Uni-Processor, i.e.only one processor - not SMP.

Brian Parish wrote:

What does UP mean (apart from a familiar direction)






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[expert] Asus Mobo A7V266-E Rebooting Suddenly

2002-04-09 Thread Sevatio

Have any of you had a problem with an Asus A7V266-E motherboard 
rebooting suddenly in the middle of running apps?

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Re: [expert] Two different IPs with 1 Ethernet card

2002-04-09 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva

Or you can do this way, as discussed before:


Just like main config file, just add :X to the name:

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0:0
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0:1
  .
  .
  .
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0:X

and for example ifcfg-eth0:0

DEVICE=eth0:0
BOOTPROTO=static
IPADDR=192.168.1.2
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.1.0
BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
ONBOOT=yes

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-aliases is the script
which do the actual job to bring them up...


On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Sevatio wrote:

 Yeah, one of the ways that you can do this is to use linuxconf.

 -Networking - Server tasks tab - IP Alias for virtual hosts - eth0
 - fill in the additional IP numbers.

 Sevatio

 Thanasis Koutras wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I have a PC with an Ethernet card in my LAN and I was wandering if there is
  a way I could add a second network with a different IP, mailserver, ftp
  server and so on Could anyone enlighten me on this?
 
  TIA
 
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Re: [expert] Mandrake Club advocates: Post Positive

2002-04-09 Thread daRcmaTTeR

- Original Message -
From: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ExpertMandrake-List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake Club advocates: Post Positive


On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:31, Hoyt wrote:

 As someone who considers himself a journalist (several tutorials,
reviews and
 opinion pieces published in MaximumLinux and LinuxFormat magazines;
three
 chapters contributed to Red Hat Linux 7.2 Unleashed and currently a
technical
 reviewer for SAMS Publishing), I don't consider a lot of what I see
published
 on-line as journalism. It's usually opinion, fluff and shallow
writing
 because that's what is easy and cheap to offer; on-line publishers
don't have
 a lot of loot to throw to writers, much less buy them off - neither do
Open
 Source companies.

I agree; I've noticed a painfully discernable difference in quality.
Not that there's any high quality material to be found on the web at
all; on the contrary, if you look in the right places there's quite a
bit of it. Still what you point out holds true enough; the good
sometimes is nearly overrun by the amateurish or unprofessional.

 Remember that controversy builds page hits and advertisers are happy
with
 higher page hit counts. My editorial pieces are written that way
 (controversial), but I try to avoid that in my factual articles. It's
up to
 the Editor to see that the two types of writing stay separate; some do
a
 better job than others and in my opinion, the boundaries are a little
less
 clear for on-line publishing.

 When I wrote for MaximumLinux, Editor in Chief Brian DelRizzo told me
that if
 a product was bad, write why it was bad; if it was good, write why it
was
 good; don't pull a punch because they advertise; help them make the
product
 better. I was told I could write what ever I wanted as long as it was
 factual. I have written some unfavourable reviews and the only
response I
 ever got from an advertiser was that I got the capitalisation of their
name
 wrong.

MaximumLinux was the favorite mag of mine for all time.  I loved the
genre of users that you guys represented, the new approach to the Linux
world that you had.  It seemed more aggressive and hip than everything
that had come before.  Sort of a car-racing attitude as applied to
Linux.  It was very cool.  I've still got the premiere issue and every
other one I could scarf off the stands.  To this day, I still wonder why
the publication did not make it, as opposed to the success of Linux
magazine and Linux Journal.  Never did make any sense to me.

 As an intelligent reader, you should be sceptical of everything you
read.
 Don't let someone else do your thinking for you. Learn to separate
opinion
 from fact.

But there are several ways to consider facts, are there not?  Even facts
are possible victims of perception.  This is easily demonstrable. For
instance, take a 16 ounce container.  Put 8 ounces of water in it.  Is
the container then half empty or half full?  Both perspectives are true,
yet one has a negative slant and the other has a positive.

Newsforge has gone beyond the half glass scenario, way into the realm of
FUD, by making statements that are obviously lies.  For instance, take
the assertion recently that the subscription model of business is not a
valid business model.  It's obvious that the subscription model is
already working for many companies, such as Transgaming, which I pointed
out numerous times on their site.  Yet their writers continue to ignore
such points in favor of fuddist oriented attitudes.  Can you imagine the
tidal wave of fuddism that would have burst through if MandrakeSoft had
actually attempted a truly new way of business?  It's no wonder that new
ideas have a way of being drowned to death in committee.  It's not that
they are bad ideas, it's just that there's an overabundance of a$$h*les
around.

Their attitude to the Linux world is irresponsible in comparison to, for
example, how Linux Journal handles it.  Here your views are verified
when we compare the online anti-journalists to the bona-fide Linux
Journal journalists.  Your points about there being no such thing as
bad press, a la Hollywood, had actually occurred to me; however, to me
it is irresponsible to grab for hits at the expense of a new and
struggling company such as MandrakeSoft, just so you can cover your own
rear.  It's like trying to stay afloat by pushing someone else under the
water.  But Mandrake is not the only one; other distros have taken hits
as well.  I'm not casting an anathema spell on criticism unilaterally,
you understand; quite the opposite, in fact.  I'm fully capable of
sorting facts from fud; and it's my opinion that there is more of the
latter than the former.

I don't mind a critical eye; but with the same eye I'm also looking for
negativists hunting fodder for their negative orgasms.

 I don't believe that the solution is to post positive because that
 is just a public relations ploy, simply putting a favourable 

Re: [expert] Asus Mobo A7V266-E Rebooting Suddenly

2002-04-09 Thread J. Craig Woods

Sevatio wrote:
 
 Have any of you had a problem with an Asus A7V266-E motherboard
 rebooting suddenly in the middle of running apps?
 
 Sevatio
 
   
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Not sure if this helps but did you install the mobo? I once built a
computer using an Asus (earlier model) mobo, and it was rebooting on its
own all the time. When I opened the box, and took a look at my wonderful
craftsmanship, I could see that I set a toggle switch for pc133 mem, and
then loaded pc100 modulules. Pretty smart, eh? 

The moral of the story: you might want to take a look at all your
jumpers and any toggle switches on the mobo. Also look for bad memory by
running a mem test...

Hope this helps.
 
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RE: [expert] Asus Mobo A7V266-E Rebooting Suddenly

2002-04-09 Thread Paul Fotheringham

If you did install it yourself then you may also
want to check that there are no updates for the
motherboard manual.

The manual that came with our A7M266-D had the IDE
activity LED wire going into the keyboard lock!
Not until I looked through the updated version on
the Asus website did I realise why the keyboard 
wasn't responding :)

Paul.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Craig Woods
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Asus Mobo A7V266-E Rebooting Suddenly
 
 
 Sevatio wrote:
  
  Have any of you had a problem with an Asus A7V266-E motherboard
  rebooting suddenly in the middle of running apps?
  
  Sevatio
  

 
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 Not sure if this helps but did you install the mobo? I once built a
 computer using an Asus (earlier model) mobo, and it was rebooting on its
 own all the time. When I opened the box, and took a look at my wonderful
 craftsmanship, I could see that I set a toggle switch for pc133 mem, and
 then loaded pc100 modulules. Pretty smart, eh? 
 
 The moral of the story: you might want to take a look at all your
 jumpers and any toggle switches on the mobo. Also look for bad memory by
 running a mem test...
 
 Hope this helps.
  
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Re: [expert] NFS Troubles

2002-04-09 Thread Lars Nordin

Looks like some of the necessary NFS programs(mountd?) never started so the 
shutdown scripts are complaining. I would try uninstalling nfs-utils-clients 
package or otherwise don't run the netfs start script - that is if you are 
not using _any_ networked drives. 

On Tuesday 09 April 2002 06:16 am, Sevatio wrote:
 OS: LM8.2

 Problem: Shut down process stops with the following message:

 Unmounting NFS filesystem: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not
 registered umount2: Device or resource busy
 umount: /net: device is busy[FAILED]

 QUESTION: Where do I go to stop this nonsense? - I've tried to not have
 NFS start on boot and I've also tried to shutdown NFS but this problem
 persists.  I don't even want to use NFS.

 Thanks,
 Sevatio



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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread J. Craig Woods

Brian Parish wrote:
 See what I mean - stupid question!
 
 Thanks Nick
 
 On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 21:01, Nick Thompson wrote:
 
Uni-Processor, i.e.only one processor - not SMP.

Brian Parish wrote:


What does UP mean (apart from a familiar direction)


The only stupd question is the question not asked :-)

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Re: [expert] NFS Troubles

2002-04-09 Thread J. Craig Woods

Sevatio wrote:
 OS: LM8.2
 
 Problem: Shut down process stops with the following message:
 
 Unmounting NFS filesystem: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not 
 registered
 umount2: Device or resource busy
 umount: /net: device is busy[FAILED]
 
 QUESTION: Where do I go to stop this nonsense? - I've tried to not have 
 NFS start on boot and I've also tried to shutdown NFS but this problem 
 persists.  I don't even want to use NFS.
 
 Thanks,
 Sevatio
 

Sevatio,
Are you running autofs and am-utils? The autofs creates the mount point 
/net. Turn these program off in whatever run level you boot into. If 
they are running before you boot do a service autofs stop and then get 
  those bad boys out of there...

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Re: [expert] NFS Troubles

2002-04-09 Thread J. Craig Woods

Lars Nordin wrote:
 Looks like some of the necessary NFS programs(mountd?) never started so the 
 shutdown scripts are complaining. I would try uninstalling nfs-utils-clients 
 package or otherwise don't run the netfs start script - that is if you are 
 not using _any_ networked drives.

No, he just has a service running called autofs (man autofs). He needs 
to shut it down (as explained my earlier post). This autofs service 
creates the mount point /net. Take a look at /etc/auto.master. 
Autofs will also create mount /misc.

Dr John

 
 On Tuesday 09 April 2002 06:16 am, Sevatio wrote:
 
OS: LM8.2

Problem: Shut down process stops with the following message:

Unmounting NFS filesystem: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not
registered umount2: Device or resource busy
umount: /net: device is busy[FAILED]

QUESTION: Where do I go to stop this nonsense? - I've tried to not have
NFS start on boot and I've also tried to shutdown NFS but this problem
persists.  I don't even want to use NFS.

Thanks,
Sevatio

 
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] a long standing probelm .... apache site on a win32 part...

2002-04-09 Thread faisal gillani
 well i havent tried a symbolic link .. but have edited he documentroot entry in httpd.conf 
can you tell me how to do this symbolic link ?

thanks
Faisal
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Re: [expert] a long standing probelm .... apache site on a win32 part...

2002-04-09 Thread faisal gillani
 well i didnt have any alias .. the whole fat partitoon have full read  write access as defined in the fstab .
 i am accessing the site from both locally  from other workstations ...
thanks
faisal
 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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Re: [expert] HELP-weird log messages appearing every 15 seconds or so

2002-04-09 Thread Dianne Marie Montesa

did you by any chance enabled or configured ipv6 on
yours system?

--- Roberto Armenteros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since i upgraded to Mandrake 8.2 I am getting the
 following log message from the kernel.  
 
 Apr  8 22:30:36 rarmente kernel: ll header:
 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:50:da:da:c7:57:08:00
 
 Apr  8 22:32:36 rarmente kernel: martian source
 255.255.255.255 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth0
 
 I use swatch to monitor my log files and it is
 constantly showing this messages. I would appreciate
 if somebody gives me a hand to understand this
 message.
 
Roberto
 
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Re: [expert] Two different IPs with 1 Ethernet card

2002-04-09 Thread Ken Nowack


--- Thanasis Koutras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have a PC with an Ethernet card in my LAN and I
 was wandering if there is
 a way I could add a second network with a different
 IP, mailserver, ftp
 server and so on Could anyone enlighten me on
 this?
 
 TIA
 
 Thanasis

The way I added a second network to our existing one
was like so:

ifconfig eth1:0 (new ip address)
/sbin/route add -host (new ip address) dev eth1:0

I added those two lines to rc.local so it would bind
on reboot and then I adjusted my iptables accordingly.

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[expert] KDE3 install fairly well... just a few things to fix

2002-04-09 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN

I installed KDE3 last night on my 8.1 box. All in all a good experience.
There were some deps I needed to fulfill, probably around 10 or so.
KDE3 comes up just fine, as long as you are user. The KDE3 is listed
in the kdm login screen dropdown. (I installed KDE3 alongside of KDE2.2.x
However I have a few issues. KDE3 isnt an option for login for root. Although
when logged in as root, i can run the control center and kde3 is listed.

Also my fonts look real bad  again. Anti-aliasing is checked (as user)

And I get some error about some font xxx-xxx-medium-xxx not being found
I get about 4 of those error boxes.

Also, some modules arent in control center (user) I get an error box stating
I am trying to run an older module, or perhaps it wasnt installed. 

Sound - Fine, Video - Fine (XF4.1)

I didn't delete my .kde dir yet, backed it up though. The icons are real nice
in 3, except I don't like the one for Konqueror. Konqueror seems slower to me

Any help on the few probs 

P.S. kfontinstaller seems gone.. is there a new version for kde3?

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[expert] HP scanjet 7400c

2002-04-09 Thread Thomas Gamble

Has anyone successfully installed this scanner?  I checked the mandrake 
hardware compatibility list and it's not listed as either supported or 
unsupported.  So far I have been unsuccessful in getting it recognized as a 
USB scanner. The sane frontend/backend/xsane packages are all installed and I 
did read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/scanner-hp-sane.txt and 
scanner.txt. I haven't tried connecting it as SCSI yet.

If anyone has managed to get it to work, I'd appreciate some tips on how you 
did it.  Im using Mdk 8.2.

Thanks
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Re: [expert] smbmount error

2002-04-09 Thread K Montgomery

Thanks for posting this!

Whenever I mounted a Samba share after installing 8.2 (with the 2.4.18
kernel), an ls of the share directory would hang, and then ls anywhere
would hang. I was never able to kill the processes, and eventually I
would have to reboot.  This patch solved the problem!

- Kathy

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 19:36, Bo O. Erichsen wrote:
 found the patch for the bug:  
 http://www.hojdpunkten.ac.se/054/samba/00-smbfs-2.4.18-codepage.patch.gz
 
 i guess it's patched in the next kernel package.. ?
 




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[expert] OT: Can someone test a tab problem for me with konqueror 2.2.2 or 3.0?

2002-04-09 Thread Randy Kramer

I've discovered a problem with konqueror 2.2.1.  I will report it to kde
if it has not already been solved in 2.2.2 or 3.0, and I'm wondering if
someone here who has 2.2.2 or 3.0 installed could test this and let me
know.

This will probably be easier for someone who is already familiar with
editing on the c2 wiki or twiki.

Description of the bug:

When editing in a textarea (like a wiki (TWiki)), konqueror can accept a
tab as input and display it properly.  However, after the textarea is
saved and reopened for editing, the tab is now displayed as a single
space (which causes a multitude of problems if the textarea is saved
again).

I have found the problem with konqueror 2.2.1 and confirmed it occurs on
twiki and the c2 wiki (links below).  There is some chance it is a
problem specific to these sites, but I don't really believe that.  I'd
like to have the testing done on one of those two sites.  If you want to
test elsewhere it could provide interesting results (especially if the
results are different).  

c2 wiki (you don't have to register to edit):
   * a place to test: http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?TabSandbox
   * a page with more explanation of the problem (at the bottom --
rather rambling): http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?ConvertSpacesToTabs

twiki: (it is preferred that you register to edit):
   * a place to test: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Test/TabSandbox

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Re: [expert] recovering files after formatting

2002-04-09 Thread Randy Kramer

Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Hmm, somebody correct me if I'm wrong but if you really want to protect that
 deleted file, then you must unmount that drive, or there is a chance some
 other background app/daemon may use the space in question...isn't that right?

Sounds like a good point to me!

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Re: [expert] Filters

2002-04-09 Thread Bryan Whitehead

procmail recipe:

:0:
* ^FROM.*aol.com
/dev/null

:)

On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 08:06, Jarmo Kettunen wrote:
 On Saturday 06 April 2002 16:42, you wrote:
 
  A lot of spam can be blocked by the ISP...  however, many ISPs are
  incompetent in this respect.  My ISP uses an upstream SP to handle mail; I
  was totally unimpressed by these people, so I setup my own domains and
  mailer (postfix).  Details at http://pfortin.com/Linux/PostFix/
  HTH,
  Pierre
 
 Thanks for reply Pierre
 
 I'm sure,I saw in my past life (read when used win) some mailers where
 could be set filters so,that unwanted messages were checked and deleted from 
 isp before downloadining...Took a little longer time,but what a heck...
 I have no hurry...
 
 Got a do something...That @aol.com stuff is driving me nuts...
 
 Regards
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Re: [expert] smbmount error

2002-04-09 Thread Brad Felmey

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 11:54, K Montgomery wrote:

 On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 19:36, Bo O. Erichsen wrote:

  found the patch for the bug:  
  http://www.hojdpunkten.ac.se/054/samba/00-smbfs-2.4.18-codepage.patch.gz
  
  i guess it's patched in the next kernel package.. ?

 Thanks for posting this!
 
 Whenever I mounted a Samba share after installing 8.2 (with the 2.4.18
 kernel), an ls of the share directory would hang, and then ls anywhere
 would hang. I was never able to kill the processes, and eventually I
 would have to reboot.  This patch solved the problem!

This is fixed in 2.4.18.7mdk, which is nothing more than the stock 8.2
kernel with the smbfs codepage fix. I still don't know why this isn't
errata.
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Re: [expert] NFS Troubles

2002-04-09 Thread Bryan Whitehead

actually /net is amd. It's in the package am-utils.

service amd stop
chkconfig --del amd


On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 06:52, J. Craig Woods wrote:
 Sevatio wrote:
  OS: LM8.2
  
  Problem: Shut down process stops with the following message:
  
  Unmounting NFS filesystem: Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: Program not 
  registered
  umount2: Device or resource busy
  umount: /net: device is busy[FAILED]
  
  QUESTION: Where do I go to stop this nonsense? - I've tried to not have 
  NFS start on boot and I've also tried to shutdown NFS but this problem 
  persists.  I don't even want to use NFS.
  
  Thanks,
  Sevatio
  
 
 Sevatio,
 Are you running autofs and am-utils? The autofs creates the mount point 
 /net. Turn these program off in whatever run level you boot into. If 
 they are running before you boot do a service autofs stop and then get 
   those bad boys out of there...
 
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Re: [expert] Mandrake Club advocates: Post Positive

2002-04-09 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 22:49, daRcmaTTeR wrote:

 good heavens! who got this one started!?!  ;)
 
 Mark
 a.k.a.  daRcmaTTeR

Hoyt is a *real* journalist (one of the good ones) and I used to
contribute a computer column to a local business newspaper.  So when we
ran into each other critical mass was exceeded and there was a
thermonuclear word explosion. ;)


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[expert] klyx error

2002-04-09 Thread kwan

Is anyone running the Klyx latex frontend? Since at least the version
shipped with KDE 2.0 it has been unusable because the background and
foreground colors are black. If I do a highlight of the text area it
will show that there is in fact proper text, but it is impossible to
use. I'm checking this on Mandrake 8.2 Download, but have noticed the
problem as far back as 8.0.

If someone doesn't mind, can you please start Klyx, create a new
document, then check if the text is visible.


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[expert]

2002-04-09 Thread kwan

I've noticed another problem with the 8.2 installation/upgrade.

I did an Expert Install on a disk with a /boot, /, and /home/
partitions. Only /home was not formated. Installation is flawless.

If I re-create a previously defined user from the command prompt and
specify the UID, the next login to KDE will completely lock the system.
It appears to have lots of problems migrating the KDE 2.2.1 preferences
correctly. The only way around it is to delete all the kde references in
the user's home directory and then manually re-adjust the preferences.





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[expert] Unfixable RPM DB corruption in 8.2

2002-04-09 Thread Jon Leech

I recently upgraded from 8.0 to 8.2 on a P3-733 machine running an
Acer MB (M25D, I think). After a week or so, and without being certain
of the exact sequence of events leading up to this, the RPM database
seems to have become corrupted.

'rpm -q --all' lists 537 packages, ending with an old
'kernel-2.4.3-20mdk', then gets a SEGV and core dumps. Notably, I had
been trying to 'rpm -e' this package at about the same time that I first
noticed the corruption. There were more than 537 packages installed, as
well.

'rpm --rebuilddb' cranks away for a while, then also gets a SEGV and
core dumps, leaving about 18 MB of stuff behind in
/var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.pid

Both errors are repeatable. It's possible that the sequence of events
leading up to this was something like:

  - Upgrade to 8.2
  - Install and remove various additional packages (notably, removing
some old packages from 8.1 and 8.2 Cookers).
  - At some point, fill up the partition containing /var/lib, without
noticing it.
  - Attempt to rpm -e kernel-2.4.3-20mdk and kernel-source-2.4.3-20mdk.
  - Notice RPM DB corruption.

However, I'm not particularly confident in stating this was the
actual sequence of events.

Is this known behavior? Do I have any options other than a clean
re-install of 8.2? Searching through old archives of the expert list, I
came across a pointer to Pascal Bourguignon's howto on rebuilding the DB:

http://hermes.afaa.asso.fr/users/pascal/linux/rpm-rebuilddb

I'm willing to give this a try if there's a good chance of success,
though I'd first like to hear if anyone else has dealt successfully with
this problem.

Thanks,
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Re: [expert] NFS Troubles

2002-04-09 Thread J. Craig Woods

Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 actually /net is amd. It's in the package am-utils.
 
 service amd stop
 chkconfig --del amd
 
 
NO again! This is getting old. Don't you people read what is posted 
here. MAN AUTOFS! This service is what creates /net.
Are you smoking crack? If you want to reboot, and not be told that the 
mount point /net is busy, you must turn off the service
called AUTOFS I can not make it any simpler than this

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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread Femme

On Tuesday 09 April 2002 04:41 am, you wrote:
 Thanks for the heads up Lyvim.  Stupid question follows:

 I am now downloading the rpm for what they call the Mandrake UP kernel.
 What does UP mean (apart from a familiar direction), or am I supposed to
 know that?  I assume this is the right one, but only by process of
 elimination i.e. not secure, not smp, not enterprise.

 TIA
 Brian

Not a stupid question.  STands for IIRC, Uni-Processor.  As opposed to SMP 
Symetric Multi-Processor.  IE, you have one CPU.  SMP has 2 or more.

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Re: [expert] smbmount error

2002-04-09 Thread J. Craig Woods

Brad Felmey wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 11:54, K Montgomery wrote:
 
 
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 19:36, Bo O. Erichsen wrote:

 
found the patch for the bug:  
http://www.hojdpunkten.ac.se/054/samba/00-smbfs-2.4.18-codepage.patch.gz

i guess it's patched in the next kernel package.. ?

Thanks for posting this!

Whenever I mounted a Samba share after installing 8.2 (with the 2.4.18
kernel), an ls of the share directory would hang, and then ls anywhere
would hang. I was never able to kill the processes, and eventually I
would have to reboot.  This patch solved the problem!

 
 This is fixed in 2.4.18.7mdk, which is nothing more than the stock 8.2
 kernel with the smbfs codepage fix. I still don't know why this isn't
 errata.
 

OKAY, maybe I am on a toot but I have not experienced any difficulty 
with mounting win2000 shares. I am using kernel 2.4.18-6mdk. I am using 
  samba 2.2.3a-10mdk. What gives? Shit, if you guys need a patch, I want 
one too

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Re: [expert] Unfixable RPM DB corruption in 8.2

2002-04-09 Thread A V Flinsch

On Tuesday 09 April 2002 18:59, you wrote:
 Acer MB (M25D, I think). After a week or so, and without being certain
 of the exact sequence of events leading up to this, the RPM database
 seems to have become corrupted.

 'rpm -q --all' lists 537 packages, ending with an old
 'kernel-2.4.3-20mdk', then gets a SEGV and core dumps. Notably, I had
 been trying to 'rpm -e' this package at about the same time that I
 first noticed the corruption. There were more than 537 packages
 installed, as well.

 'rpm --rebuilddb' cranks away for a while, then also gets a SEGV
 and core dumps, leaving about 18 MB of stuff behind in
 /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.pid

 Both errors are repeatable. It's possible that the sequence of
 events leading up to this was something like:

   - Upgrade to 8.2
   - Install and remove various additional packages (notably, removing
 some old packages from 8.1 and 8.2 Cookers).
   - At some point, fill up the partition containing /var/lib, without
 noticing it.
   - Attempt to rpm -e kernel-2.4.3-20mdk and kernel-source-2.4.3-20mdk.
   - Notice RPM DB corruption.

 However, I'm not particularly confident in stating this was the
 actual sequence of events.

 Is this known behavior? Do I have any options other than a clean
 re-install of 8.2? Searching through old archives of the expert list, I
 came across a pointer to Pascal Bourguignon's howto on rebuilding the
 DB:

   http://hermes.afaa.asso.fr/users/pascal/linux/rpm-rebuilddb

 I'm willing to give this a try if there's a good chance of success,
 though I'd first like to hear if anyone else has dealt successfully
 with this problem.


I have had this happen in the past, and to avoid it in the future I do 
regular backups of /var/lib/rpm

What I did to fix the problem was the following (found thru lots of trial 
and error)

1 - backup /var/lib/rpm --- just to be safe
2 - run 'rpm -qa | sort | less ' -- take a look at the output and see if 
there were any funky named packages -- packages named with all sorts of 
odd symbols
3 - run kpackage to delete the funky packages as you will not be able 
to do it from the command line
4 - rpm --rebuilddb

and all was ok.

Depending on what you installed before or after your 8.2 upgrade, it 
might just be easier to do a clean install.


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Re: [expert] smbmount error

2002-04-09 Thread Brad Felmey

On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 19:18, J. Craig Woods wrote:

 OKAY, maybe I am on a toot but I have not experienced any difficulty 
 with mounting win2000 shares. I am using kernel 2.4.18-6mdk. I am using 
   samba 2.2.3a-10mdk. What gives? Shit, if you guys need a patch, I want 
 one too

If'n it ain't broke - don't fix it.

This patch was purely for smbfs between systems with different
codepages, and you'd most likely not see it unless you were running
Samba servers with different codepage settings or Windows boxen with
different locales set.

Some of us got the snot kicked out of us by this bug, and were very
happy to see .7mdk arrive to save the day.
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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread J. Grant

Uni-processor or Simetric multiprocessor should not have any effect IMO.
its just the kernel driver module right? and thats going to the GFX card 
anyway.

I used UP modules on SMP kernel fine before i think.

JG

J. Craig Woods wrote:
 Brian Parish wrote:
 
 See what I mean - stupid question!

 Thanks Nick

 On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 21:01, Nick Thompson wrote:

 Uni-Processor, i.e.only one processor - not SMP.

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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread J. Grant

anyone got a mandrake box with more than 2 cpus then?

I have a dual machine here, but aint seen any triple cpu motherboards 
ever for x86

JG

 Not a stupid question.  STands for IIRC, Uni-Processor.  As opposed to SMP 
 Symetric Multi-Processor.  IE, you have one CPU.  SMP has 2 or more.
 
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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread Jason Guidry

J. Grant wrote:
 anyone got a mandrake box with more than 2 cpus then?
 
 I have a dual machine here, but aint seen any triple cpu motherboards 
 ever for x86
 

uhh, er...d00d, SMP==_Symmetric_ multiprocessing.  yes, there are quite 
a few boards that run 4 xeon processors.  none for AMD...yet.

BTW, any one using more than 2 processors is hereby required to loan me 
a few cycles during my next kernel or qt compile.  no exceptions.



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[expert] Mobile Postfix Accounts

2002-04-09 Thread nDiScReEt

Anyone know how to configure postfix or provide a link on how to setup 
postfix so that my users can check their mail from within the internal 
network and abroad on the road?

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Re: [expert] CPU bug

2002-04-09 Thread dfox

 Hi, I found this information in the hardware list information, which is CPU Bug: foof
 
 What does it mean? My CPU hasefection?

What is your CPU? Most modern CPUs (P100? possibly and above) should be
immune to the F00F bug. That's a particularly nasty bug that exploits
an invalid (intel) opcode. There should be workarounds for it for most
recent kernels, what version are you running?

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Re: [expert] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-09 Thread Robert Fargher

On April 9, 2002 08:09 pm, J. Grant wrote:
 anyone got a mandrake box with more than 2 cpus then?

 I have a dual machine here, but aint seen any triple cpu motherboards
 ever for x86
  

 Nor will you.  3 is not a power of two. :-) 

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Re: [expert] CPU bug

2002-04-09 Thread Li Tan

Thanks, I am running a Mobile Pentium 266MHz CPU with mandrake 8.2

Li
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From: dfox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] CPU bug


  Hi, I found this information in the hardware list information, which is
CPU Bug: foof
 
  What does it mean? My CPU hasefection?

 What is your CPU? Most modern CPUs (P100? possibly and above) should be
 immune to the F00F bug. That's a particularly nasty bug that exploits
 an invalid (intel) opcode. There should be workarounds for it for most
 recent kernels, what version are you running?

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Re: [expert] HELP-weird log messages appearing every 15 seconds or so

2002-04-09 Thread Lorne Shantz

To add to a previous post... check all your nics to see if perhaps it IS one
of your own boxes. If it is then it makes the search much easier. The next
step will be if you want to dig deeper is to do a packet trace of this traffic
and find out what the payload is. That will be useful to determine why it is
happening.

Dianne Marie Montesa wrote:

 did you by any chance enabled or configured ipv6 on
 yours system?

 --- Roberto Armenteros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Since i upgraded to Mandrake 8.2 I am getting the
  following log message from the kernel.
 
  Apr  8 22:30:36 rarmente kernel: ll header:
  ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:50:da:da:c7:57:08:00
 
  Apr  8 22:32:36 rarmente kernel: martian source
  255.255.255.255 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth0
 
  I use swatch to monitor my log files and it is
  constantly showing this messages. I would appreciate
  if somebody gives me a hand to understand this
  message.
 
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[expert] CPU bug

2002-04-09 Thread Li Tan



Hi, I found this information in the 
hardware list information, which is CPU Bug: foof

What does it mean? My CPU 
hasefection?

Thanks

Li