Re: [expert] 3dwm windows manager, how?
On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 15:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to test the 3dwm windows manager; I have downloaded from cooker the files: 3dwm lib3dwm libmeshio libmeshio-devel omniorb installed all, but now I have not idea about how to start this windows manager. Xtart doesn't give me an entry for 3dwm or similar. I have taken a look at the 3dwm home page but not information about this. Do I need more files? What steps must I do? Thanks a lot in advance for your help Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) 3DWM isn't a window manager like KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, etc. It's more like X11. I've never used it, but you should check out www.3dwm.org They'll be able to give you a good overview of what 3DWM is. -- /curtis Mandrake Linux 8.3 (cooker) Kernel Version 2.4.18-13mdk Uptime 3 days 10 hours 29 minutes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] samba as PDC and share for Domain Admins ?
Hi ! I have one trouble with my LM 8.1, 8.2 and samba as PDC : i cant add any user in group Domain Admins %( when i do share readable only for internal samba group called Domain Admins - i cant accees to it ! when i try i have Access denied in my smb.conf : user, admins user user is in group admins - but nothing ... can anybody help me ? WBR, maxx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] VIA disaster!
This crusade against VIA is ridiculous to me. Here at work we have about 25 computers working around, some of them are under very heavy duty as database servers or even worse as parts of a cluster. Approximately half of them is VIA based, even my workstation that I'm writing this is based on a soyo dragon-raid plus mobo (VIA KT266). And we've had no - I repeat: NO - problems so far that could be directly linked to the chipset. But I remember a couple of other things that made our life hard: bad compilers (gcc 2.96, aka garbagecc), broken memory, malfunctioning harddrives - but that was **never** related to VIA in any reasonable way. And if you come around and say that even VIA has a path for the IDE driver in the kernel to work around some problems, you are simply wrong: This patch soley enables UDMA133 on some chipsets because the modifications did not make it yet into the current *STABLE* kernel (guess why???). ... had to say this ... udo Am Fre, 2002-05-10 um 02.46 schrieb lorne: I hate to say this, but IMHO VIA chipset is JUNK!!! Now I don't want to start a flame war and will ignore attempts to start one, but my experience was horrible. I wasted enough time with a MB using a VIA chipset to buy 2 brand name computers. I got an IWILL MB using a different chipset and my problems have gone away. I then gave the MB to my brother with the VIA chipset and he had altogether different hardware and has had nothing but trouble with it. The thing has been replaced twice. I WILL NEVER use via chipsets again and I don't say never often. I'll take a littel slower for stable ANY DAY. Just my .5 cents worth. Bjarne Thomsen wrote: I have previously reported disk corruption with the ASUS A7V266E motherboard and the VIA chipset. Then I closed the case, but too early it turned out. We have now done extensive testing, and we can reproduce the crashes with LM 8.2, LM 8.1, and RH 7.2. At first we suspected the 2.4.18 kernel, but this has not been confirmed by our testing. We then discovered that VIA had some patches for LM 8.2 against problems encountered under heavy load. Unfortunately our work involves heavy load! We had difficulties compiling the stock LM 8.2 kernel, but we discovered that a newer version of the VIA IDE driver was included in the cooker 2.4.18-13 kernel. Now we had finally solved the problem, we thought. You guessed it. It crashed again! We have finally given up ASUS + VIA for ECS K7S6A + SiS745. I shall keep you posted about the new board. The people having problems with LM 8.2 should possibly check their hardware! -- Bjarne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Computer Market (Was VIA disaster)
Udo Rader wrote: This crusade against VIA is ridiculous to me. Here at work we have about 25 computers working around, some of them are under very heavy duty as database servers or even worse as parts of a cluster. Approximately half of them is VIA based, even my workstation that I'm writing this is based on a soyo dragon-raid plus mobo (VIA KT266). And we've had no - I repeat: NO - problems so far that could be directly linked to the chipset. But I remember a couple of other things that made our life hard: bad compilers (gcc 2.96, aka garbagecc), broken memory, malfunctioning harddrives - but that was **never** related to VIA in any reasonable way. And if you come around and say that even VIA has a path for the IDE driver in the kernel to work around some problems, you are simply wrong: This patch soley enables UDMA133 on some chipsets because the modifications did not make it yet into the current *STABLE* kernel (guess why???). ... had to say this ... udo Ummm, I would never be one to single out VIA. There have been real bugs in _ALL_ the chipsets around. How much of those you see depends on where in the arms race you pick out a kernel, in most cases. The VIA 686B southbridge had a problem which caused cross-channel IDE DMAs to provide _massive_ corruption on transfers of more than 100Mb, but a workaround was found and put into the kernel. The KT266A and current ALi Chipsets have broken clocks. Under heavy loads, spurious clock pulses can play hell with UDMA transfers. A temporary fix would be to depress the priority of the clock interrupt using irqtune, but then dispatching would be adversely affected. Yes, under certain circumstances (software RAID with journaling filesystem and heavy load) these chipsets with the broken clocks show data corruption, really. SiS and Intel are not free of problems either. Just right now those are covered by kernel workarounds, mostly. Some workarounds have to be invoked, separately, as is the case with K6-2 and SiS 530 chipsets which perform much better under nopentium installs and boots. There is a serious break for agpgart for some i815 implementations... You pays your money and you takes your chances; when has it been different? I used to hate certain brands of Motherboard and love others, but while I was busy avoiding the ones I hated, some of them became good and reliable, while those I thought were great acquired new owners who were determined to cash in on the reputations of the previous owners's fanaticism for quality. There are no constants in this industry. Things are moving too fast. Knowledge overall is doubling every 6 years or less, and in the computing industry it is quite a bit faster than that (remember processor speed is doubling every 18 months, for example). The people in good odor today may smell of the sewer tomorrow, depending on whether the techs or the marketeers are in control of their company. Civileme Of course, some companies still seem to survive on corner-cut products after years and years of the practice. You can tell of them by the smoothness and courtesy with which they treat any customer with a complaint--they invested their money in massaging disgruntled customers rather than doing the product right and with consistently high quality. When I call in with a complaint and don't meet a harassed staff but rather a smooth approach , I become very afraid. The patch for this is to give the ISR for clock a very low priority, but that tends to slow the system by interfering with dispatching Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Compiling the Mandrake kernel.2
On Thu, 9 May 2002 16:05:39 -0400 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 May 2002 14:32:48 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a footnote, I don't recommend usin newer kernels unless you also either monitor the cooker ML, or at least check it's recent archive. OTOH, newer cooker kernels are usually much better than the kernels shipped with 'release' versions, specially ML8.2, and specially tryin to use vanilla source from kernel.org. I suspect this is for compatibility over a wide range of hardware, configurations, and users. YMMV ;) Also, from lurking on the cooker list, compiling the latest kernels with = gcc 3.04 seems to be an expected problem. I didn't have any usin ML8.2's gcc 2.96. Just to put in my $10 worth (I'm expensive). Since I believe 2418-8 the kernels have been compiled with gcc-3.0.4 but this will shortly change to gcc-3.10 which as of yesterday is the default compiler having now obsoleted gcc-2.9.6 There now exist Major differences between 8.2 and Cooker: gcc, Gnome2, New alsa, etc, making most Cooker rpms and even src rpms incompatible with earlier versions of Mandrake. Unless possessed of the knowledge and expertise comparable to that acquired by Tom most users would be best served by strictly avoiding usage of Any cooker pkg. Charles This is not good news. It means a severe break in compatibility not only for us, as Mandrake users, but for people who release applications in RPM format or source format that are not in the Mandrake release. Oh and as for your $10 in California we call that a gallon of gas. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 8.2 Install second ide cdrom bug
I am really looking for the correct place to send bug reports. Can someone please direct me to the correct place for this. I recently installed Mandrake 8.2 and my second ide dvd drive was recognised and configured except the scsi emulation was missed. I had to add it to the append=devfs= ... line in lilo.conf. Then I had to correct /etc/fstab to match. It seems to be mostly OK now. Before the fix the drive was not discovered by any cd burning applications. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Fixing a broken RPM??? Help please!
Hello all; After a recent thunderstorm my Mandrake 8.2 box became highly unstable. The problem was traced down to a bad memory module. Once the module was replaced everything EXCEPT Rpm worked correctly. Now RPM segfaults all the time. I suspect that something is amiss with RPM itself. I cannot rpm --rebuilddb either as this segfaults. Anyone know how I can quickly re-install JUST RPM and it's database(s), keeping my current header files intact? -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] VIA disaster!
No there -ARE- serious problems with the Via and ALiMagik. It's not a crusade against these companies, just facts... The clock timer problem, dma push problems, etc. Want even more affirmation? Check out the documentation for the Nvidia Drivers under Linux where they list a slew of problems with even some of the latest Via chipsets including the KT's. Sadly I've experienced these problems first hand, and found myself sucking up to Intel again... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Udo Rader |Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:45 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] VIA disaster! | | |This crusade against VIA is ridiculous to me. | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Compiling the Mandrake kernel.2
On Fri, 10 May 2002 02:04:37 -0700 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to put in my $10 worth (I'm expensive). Since I believe 2418-8 the kernels have been compiled with gcc-3.0.4 but this will shortly change to gcc-3.10 which as of yesterday is the default compiler having now obsoleted gcc-2.9.6 There now exist Major differences between 8.2 and Cooker: gcc, Gnome2, New alsa, etc, making most Cooker rpms and even src rpms incompatible with earlier versions of Mandrake. Unless possessed of the knowledge and expertise comparable to that acquired by Tom most users would be best served by strictly avoiding usage of Any cooker pkg. Charles This is not good news. Actually it does not forebode ill. My cautionary statement was meant for those who choose to use Cooker rpms as a means of updating their current 8.2 It means a severe break in compatibility not only for us, as Mandrake users, but for people who release applications in RPM format or source format that are not in the Mandrake release. There is no compatibility problem unless one is running a mixed distro. Oh and as for your $10 in California we call that a gallon of gas. *grin* Strange. I thought it was 1 hr of electric service. :-) Charles James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Portsentry on LM8.2?
On Friday 10 May 2002 12:25 am, Sevatio wrote: LM8.2 What happened to Portsentry? Is LM8.2 using something else in its place? IIRC, it was left off the CD's for space reasons. Check the cooker archive, I believe there was a disscussion of this a few months ago. In the meantime you can use the 8.1 version or get it from rpmfind.net. I got the src.rpm and rebuilt it on 8.2 -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] adding interbase module to php
I have install package php, php-common, mod-php, php-mysql, php-pgsql. Now If I wanna use interbase (already installed in my machine), how can I configure my php-engine so I can work with my interbase php-based? -m- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] smbfs Permissions Debacle
I feel I am likely missing something obvious here but I need another pair of eyes: I am trying to mount two shares that exist on an NT server. I am running Mandrake 8.2. techmjm is a user on the NT machine with read write access to everything. The password supplied in credentials is correct. First, I create the dirs to mount the shares on and set their permissions wide open to everyone. Here is what I get with ls -al from /mnt/serv when it is mounted: 1 drwxr-xr-x1 root root 512 May 9 15:58 shared/ 1 drwxr-xr-x1 root root 512 May 8 10:25 techmjm/ It will not let me change the permissions to writeable to everyone when it is mounted. I don't get any error when I chmod 666 it, but the permissions fail to change. When I unmount it, it shows the dirs as writeable to everyone. Here are the two lines in my fstab: //192.168.5.6/shared /mnt/serv/shared smbfs\ user,auto,rw,credentials=/home/techmjm/whatever 0 0 //192.168.5.6/techmjm /mnt/serv/techmjm smbfs\ user,auto,rw,credentials=/home/techmjm/whatever 0 0 The shares mount great but ONLY by root. I have user in fstab, why can only root mount it? It is also writeable but only by root (as is consistent with the permissions that it wont let me change). rw is a default, but I put it in there to be sure. Why is it not writeable? When I try to see other attributes with lsattr, I get: lsattr: Invalid argument While reading flags on ./techmjm lsattr: Invalid argument While reading flags on ./shared I want to be able to mount and write to these not as root. What am I missing here? Thanks! -Mjo P.S. I also have this same exact problem with another share that resides on a Mandrake 8.2 Samba server so I don't think it has to do with NT. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 Install second ide cdrom bug
On Friday 10 May 2002 10:07 am, Keith Bambery wrote: I am really looking for the correct place to send bug reports. Can someone please direct me to the correct place for this. I recently installed Mandrake 8.2 and my second ide dvd drive was recognised and configured except the scsi emulation was missed. I had to add it to the append=devfs= ... line in lilo.conf. Then I had to correct /etc/fstab to match. It seems to be mostly OK now. Before the fix the drive was not discovered by any cd burning applications. I have a couple (relating to the Speedtouch USB and font support) and eventually found: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ It uses Bugzilla - probably the most impenetrable Web application known to mortal Man ... Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk8.2 and radeon 7000 pci
Running setup didn't help unfortunately. What I've finally had to do to get even partial operation is to install a card into the AGP slot in this box. That will finally fully disable the integrated video. So now instead of a Radeon 7000PCI and integrated s3 trio3d I have the Radeon and an ATI RagePRo AGP card. XFdrake (by way of setup or from CLI - makes no difference) will still not configure the Radeon to work - either by itself or as part of multihead setup. One difference though, is that now it at least offers to do a multihead setup. It didn't do that with the s3. OTOH, if I run XFree86 -configure I do get a configuration that at least starts up. I can log in and KDE seems to work ok - haven't tried Gnome yet. But the resolution and color depth stinks. I can't tell for sure what color depth is used but I think it's 8 bit (I see error messages complaining about using unsupported 8 bit when X exits). Resolution looks like 640x480. I've tried copying lines to force color depth and resolution higher but I only go back to scrambled video and/or lockups when I do. Does anyone know if Mandrake customized version of XFree86 4.20 in the 8.2 release or is it the standard stuff from the XFree86 project? How do I figure out what drivers are used and what drivers are available - seems like I saw a thread a while back that said there was more than one Radeon driver w/8.2 but I can't find it now. Perhaps someone could email me (probably off list?) some working configs for Radeon 7000 PCI cards? Might I fare better getting the standard package from the XFree86 project? Thanks Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2002 15:10:58 -0400 Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an IBM box (300PL) that has integrated S3 video. My son wants better video so I've obtained a 64MB Radeon 7000 PCI video card. I can't use an AGP card even though the machine has an AGP slot because of the way the case is built - one of those proprietary designs that only a few cards will properly fit. I was surprised to find that the hardware drake didn't detect any hardware changes when the box started up. I finally have the box booting to init 3. When I run XFdrake it finds both video cards now (new Radeon 7000 and the original integrated video) but I cannot find a configuration that'll work. I really only want the Radeon card set up so that's the one I select. It loaded XFree 4.20 the first time I selected the Radeon card but the system displays a scrambled screen and freezes when I try to test the configuration. I skipped the test one time and tried to 'startx' but that also displayed garbage and froze. The first place to start is your system BIOS, somewhere within it you should find an option allowing you to disable the onboard video. Afterwards rerun the Mandrake installation as Expert/Upgrade. You need not select any pkgs, but if they are not already installed you will need Mesa and libMesa for openGL with the Radeon. You can skip the network and printer configuration. When you get to the X installation it may still see the S3 but allow you to choose the Radeon. You will want 4.20 with 3d hardware accel. The whole process should take no more than around 15min. Rerunning the installation rather than attempting to use XFdrake will ensure that all the necessary pkgs are installed and that /etc/XF86Config-4 is properly written. I have 2 Radeons and both work well. Charles Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk8.2 and radeon 7000 pci
Running setup didn't help unfortunately. What I've finally had to do to get even partial operation is to install a card into the AGP slot in this box. That will finally fully disable the integrated video. So now instead of a Radeon 7000PCI and integrated s3 trio3d I have the Radeon and an ATI RagePRo AGP card. XFdrake (by way of setup or from CLI - makes no difference) will still not configure the Radeon to work - either by itself or as part of multihead setup. One difference though, is that now it at least offers to do a multihead setup. It didn't do that with the s3. OTOH, if I run XFree86 -configure I do get a configuration that at least starts up. I can log in and KDE seems to work ok - haven't tried Gnome yet. But the resolution and color depth stinks. I can't tell for sure what color depth is used but I think it's 8 bit (I see error messages complaining about using unsupported 8 bit when X exits). Resolution looks like 640x480. I've tried copying lines to force color depth and resolution higher but I only go back to scrambled video and/or lockups when I do. Does anyone know if Mandrake customized version of XFree86 4.20 in the 8.2 release or is it the standard stuff from the XFree86 project? How do I figure out what drivers are used and what drivers are available - seems like I saw a thread a while back that said there was more than one Radeon driver w/8.2 but I can't find it now. Perhaps someone could email me (probably off list?) some working configs for Radeon 7000 PCI cards? Might I fare better getting the standard package from the XFree86 project? Thanks Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2002 15:10:58 -0400 Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an IBM box (300PL) that has integrated S3 video. My son wants better video so I've obtained a 64MB Radeon 7000 PCI video card. I can't use an AGP card even though the machine has an AGP slot because of the way the case is built - one of those proprietary designs that only a few cards will properly fit. I was surprised to find that the hardware drake didn't detect any hardware changes when the box started up. I finally have the box booting to init 3. When I run XFdrake it finds both video cards now (new Radeon 7000 and the original integrated video) but I cannot find a configuration that'll work. I really only want the Radeon card set up so that's the one I select. It loaded XFree 4.20 the first time I selected the Radeon card but the system displays a scrambled screen and freezes when I try to test the configuration. I skipped the test one time and tried to 'startx' but that also displayed garbage and froze. The first place to start is your system BIOS, somewhere within it you should find an option allowing you to disable the onboard video. Afterwards rerun the Mandrake installation as Expert/Upgrade. You need not select any pkgs, but if they are not already installed you will need Mesa and libMesa for openGL with the Radeon. You can skip the network and printer configuration. When you get to the X installation it may still see the S3 but allow you to choose the Radeon. You will want 4.20 with 3d hardware accel. The whole process should take no more than around 15min. Rerunning the installation rather than attempting to use XFdrake will ensure that all the necessary pkgs are installed and that /etc/XF86Config-4 is properly written. I have 2 Radeons and both work well. Charles Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Paranoid install unable to ping.
I've got this at the end of my firewall script to allow me to do pings. echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts HTH David -Original Message- From: Len Pikulski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Paranoid install unable to ping. Is there a way to allow ping returns when doing a Paranoid security level install. I couldn't find any documented differences between the different levels, (that would also be helpful) Thanks in advance for your reply *** Len Pikulski[EMAIL PROTECTED] (856) 222-1514 http://www.nothinbut.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk8.2 and radeon 7000 pci
On Fri, 10 May 2002 10:27:31 -0400 Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if Mandrake customized version of XFree86 4.20 in the 8.2 release or is it the standard stuff from the XFree86 project? How do I figure out what drivers are used and what drivers are available - seems like I saw a thread a while back that said there was more than one Radeon driver w/8.2 but I can't find it now. Perhaps someone could email me (probably off list?) some working configs for Radeon 7000 PCI cards? Might I fare better getting the standard package from the XFree86 project? Mandrake uses a customized XFree86. It contains both the XF86 ati drivers as well as the gatos ati2 drivers, with the ati2 drivers being used by default. You can find the available drivers in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri and /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] smbfs Permissions Debacle
On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 08:39, Martha Jo McCarthy wrote: It will not let me change the permissions to writeable to everyone when it is mounted. No, you can't. You must do that at mount-time. Here are the two lines in my fstab: //192.168.5.6/shared /mnt/serv/shared smbfs\ user,auto,rw,credentials=/home/techmjm/whatever 0 0 //192.168.5.6/techmjm /mnt/serv/techmjm smbfs\ user,auto,rw,credentials=/home/techmjm/whatever 0 0 In the options, add fmask=666,dmask=777, or whatever permissions you want the mount to have. fmask for files, dmask for directories. //192.168.5.6/techmjm /mnt/serv/techmjm smbfs \ user,auto,fmask=666,dmask=777 0 0 Or something similar. -- Brad Felmey Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Midi - Karaoke
Please unsubsribe "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from your list Ron Stodden wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Oscar wrote: What is your sound card? Maybe a SBLive? Not SBLive. Onboard. Sound Mixer tells me it is a SigmaTel STAC9708 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com with best regards Dirk Rhricht VorstandCARROTS AG Corporate Communications
Re: [expert] Compiling the Mandrake kernel.2
I certainly hope that this is good news. A year ago I read that gcc optimization for my new P4 at the earliest was expected with gcc-3.1 around April 2002. Now I have installed gcc-3.1 as the default on my LM 8.2, and, yes, I did see that kernel-2.4.18-16mdk has been compiled with gcc-3.1. QUESTION: does any of you know IF optimization for P4 is actually in gcc-3.1? -- Bjarne On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 11:04, James wrote: On Thu, 9 May 2002 16:05:39 -0400 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 May 2002 14:32:48 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a footnote, I don't recommend usin newer kernels unless you also either monitor the cooker ML, or at least check it's recent archive. OTOH, newer cooker kernels are usually much better than the kernels shipped with 'release' versions, specially ML8.2, and specially tryin to use vanilla source from kernel.org. I suspect this is for compatibility over a wide range of hardware, configurations, and users. YMMV ;) Also, from lurking on the cooker list, compiling the latest kernels with = gcc 3.04 seems to be an expected problem. I didn't have any usin ML8.2's gcc 2.96. Just to put in my $10 worth (I'm expensive). Since I believe 2418-8 the kernels have been compiled with gcc-3.0.4 but this will shortly change to gcc-3.10 which as of yesterday is the default compiler having now obsoleted gcc-2.9.6 There now exist Major differences between 8.2 and Cooker: gcc, Gnome2, New alsa, etc, making most Cooker rpms and even src rpms incompatible with earlier versions of Mandrake. Unless possessed of the knowledge and expertise comparable to that acquired by Tom most users would be best served by strictly avoiding usage of Any cooker pkg. Charles This is not good news. It means a severe break in compatibility not only for us, as Mandrake users, but for people who release applications in RPM format or source format that are not in the Mandrake release. Oh and as for your $10 in California we call that a gallon of gas. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Computer Market (Was VIA disaster)
This was NOT ment as a crusade against VIA, but a warning against a particular Motherboard/chipset combination: A7V266E+KT266A. Actually, it specifically happens when you copy a few BG of files (each about 16MB) from an SGI machine running IRIX64 to the A7V266E+KT266A running LM 8.2, and it happens every time. It happens with the 2.4.8 kernel as well as with the 2.4.18 kernel. We could not test the 2.2.19 kernel as we use the xfs file system. It crashed both by transferring data via NFS and FTP. The problem is this specific combination: SGI/IRIX64 - A7V266E/LM8.2 Actually, it also crashed with RH7.2 and LM8.1. I do not know for sure if this is a VIA problem. It could be some other component on the ASUS A7V266E. But at this point I have really lost interest in finding the exact location on the board. All we wanted to know was if we should get a new type of board or another Linux distribution! Thank you for your response. -- Bjarne On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 10:22, civileme wrote: Udo Rader wrote: This crusade against VIA is ridiculous to me. Here at work we have about 25 computers working around, some of them are under very heavy duty as database servers or even worse as parts of a cluster. Approximately half of them is VIA based, even my workstation that I'm writing this is based on a soyo dragon-raid plus mobo (VIA KT266). And we've had no - I repeat: NO - problems so far that could be directly linked to the chipset. But I remember a couple of other things that made our life hard: bad compilers (gcc 2.96, aka garbagecc), broken memory, malfunctioning harddrives - but that was **never** related to VIA in any reasonable way. And if you come around and say that even VIA has a path for the IDE driver in the kernel to work around some problems, you are simply wrong: This patch soley enables UDMA133 on some chipsets because the modifications did not make it yet into the current *STABLE* kernel (guess why???). ... had to say this ... udo Ummm, I would never be one to single out VIA. There have been real bugs in _ALL_ the chipsets around. How much of those you see depends on where in the arms race you pick out a kernel, in most cases. The VIA 686B southbridge had a problem which caused cross-channel IDE DMAs to provide _massive_ corruption on transfers of more than 100Mb, but a workaround was found and put into the kernel. The KT266A and current ALi Chipsets have broken clocks. Under heavy loads, spurious clock pulses can play hell with UDMA transfers. A temporary fix would be to depress the priority of the clock interrupt using irqtune, but then dispatching would be adversely affected. Yes, under certain circumstances (software RAID with journaling filesystem and heavy load) these chipsets with the broken clocks show data corruption, really. SiS and Intel are not free of problems either. Just right now those are covered by kernel workarounds, mostly. Some workarounds have to be invoked, separately, as is the case with K6-2 and SiS 530 chipsets which perform much better under nopentium installs and boots. There is a serious break for agpgart for some i815 implementations... You pays your money and you takes your chances; when has it been different? I used to hate certain brands of Motherboard and love others, but while I was busy avoiding the ones I hated, some of them became good and reliable, while those I thought were great acquired new owners who were determined to cash in on the reputations of the previous owners's fanaticism for quality. There are no constants in this industry. Things are moving too fast. Knowledge overall is doubling every 6 years or less, and in the computing industry it is quite a bit faster than that (remember processor speed is doubling every 18 months, for example). The people in good odor today may smell of the sewer tomorrow, depending on whether the techs or the marketeers are in control of their company. Civileme Of course, some companies still seem to survive on corner-cut products after years and years of the practice. You can tell of them by the smoothness and courtesy with which they treat any customer with a complaint--they invested their money in massaging disgruntled customers rather than doing the product right and with consistently high quality. When I call in with a complaint and don't meet a harassed staff but rather a smooth approach , I become very afraid. The patch for this is to give the ISR for clock a very low priority, but that tends to slow the system by interfering with dispatching Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] IDE_SCSI problem fresh 8.1 install with tape drive
Hi All, I have just completed a machine swap on my file server which boasts a HP Colorado 14GB IDE/ATAPI drive. I have never had a problem with this prior to 8.1. The scsi component was always missing, I found that I had to add the ide-scsi option into LILO in the 'append' section, hdd=ide-scsi to get it to work. After this latest migration, I cannot appear to get the tape to work (also 8.1). This is what I see: ls -al /dev/st0 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 31 May 10 21:09 /dev/st0 -- scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/mt lilo.conf image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append= hdd=ide-scsi devfs=mount vga=788 read-only Example of failure: [root@london root]# tar -cvf /dev/st0 /home tar: /dev/st0: Cannot open: Permission denied tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [root@london root]# If anyone has any ideas/pointers it would be appreciated. System: Fujitsu P200/90'ish RAM running in console mode (init 3) only serving SAMBA/NFS/POP3/CUPS Thanks, David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] linux and netware
Hi! Now, I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, so just bear with me for a minute. Can I set up a linux box, Mandrake or otherwise, that will emulate a Netware Bindery box and allow drive mapping through NDS? I want to be able to move some storage space off the netware boxes and onto a linux box without having to make my end users jump through 15 hoops. I want to move the files and then just change the drive mappings in the login scripts. I do this now with a Snap server, but my assistant (who's the real linux mind around here; I'm a Netware sysadmin) and I aren't sure how to make our current Mandrake installation appear as a Netware server to NDS. Any pointers? Thanks! Jon 8^) - A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
Hi list,
In default configuration of Mandrake 8.1, awk is a link to gawk
/bin/awk - gawk
gawk --version
GNU Awk 3.1.0
Copyright (C) 1989, 1991-2001 Free Software Foundation.
Here below is described a bug of this version :
sample ASCII file (sample.txt)
--
ab AB
AB ab
cd CD
CD cd
dump of sample file for checking
61 62 20 41 42 0a 41 42 20 61 62 0a 63 64 20 43 ab AB.AB ab.cd C
44 0a 43 44 20 63 64 0a D.CD cd.
simple awk file (simple.awk)
{ line++ }
! /^[A-Z]+/ { print line - $0 }
command
---
cat sample.txt | awk -f simple.awk
result
--
1 - ab AB
Strange result, isn't it?
The expected result is :
1 - ab AB
3 - cd CD
BUG! At first, I don't believe it. The awk in Mandrake 8.1 cannot be
used.
Is it the same behavior in Mandrake 8.2?
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Re: [expert] smbfs Permissions Debacle
On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 05:37, Brad Felmey wrote: On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 08:39, Martha Jo McCarthy wrote: It will not let me change the permissions to writeable to everyone when it is mounted. No, you can't. You must do that at mount-time. Here are the two lines in my fstab: //192.168.5.6/shared /mnt/serv/shared smbfs\ user,auto,rw,credentials=/home/techmjm/whatever 0 0 //192.168.5.6/techmjm /mnt/serv/techmjm smbfs\ user,auto,rw,credentials=/home/techmjm/whatever 0 0 In the options, add fmask=666,dmask=777, or whatever permissions you want the mount to have. fmask for files, dmask for directories. //192.168.5.6/techmjm /mnt/serv/techmjm smbfs \ user,auto,fmask=666,dmask=777 0 0 Or something similar. On my LM 8.1 box man fstab points me to man mount for those options, and there, around line 850, I find: Mount options for ntfs [snip] uid=value, gid=value and umask=value Set the file permission on the filesystem. By default, the files are owned by root and not read able by somebody else. That last sentence sounds relevant to this situation. I find no mention of fmask or dmask. Gary Dunn Open Slate Project Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] smbfs Permissions Debacle
On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 15:16, Gary Dunn wrote: On my LM 8.1 box man fstab points me to man mount for those options, and there, around line 850, I find: Mount options for ntfs [snip] uid=value, gid=value and umask=value Set the file permission on the filesystem. By default, the files are owned by root and not read able by somebody else. That last sentence sounds relevant to this situation. I find no mention of fmask or dmask. True, but that's ntfs, not smbfs. If you want to see the options for smbfs, do man smbmount. You can also set uid/gid, but it sounded to me more like she was asking how to make public shares. -- Brad Felmey Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache SERVER_NAME quick Q
Hmm.., but what if I have BIND running and host.resolve set to BIND, hosts? James wrote: Ok did a test. and got the following. If you have something like this in /etc/hosts. 10.0.0.1 my.box.com my where 10.0.0.1 is your IP number, my.box.com is the full name of the box, and my is the nickname. hostname and hostname --fqdn work. If you remove the nickname and just have 10.0.0.1 my.box.com hostname returns my.box.com and hostname --fqdn returns host unknow. or if you have the default that Mandrake sets up, 10.0.0.1 my then hostname works and again hostname --fqdn returns host unkown. James On Thu, 09 May 2002 15:18:23 -0500 David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I should have been more clear, and maybe the problem isn't as simple as I thought. On my 7.2 box, #ServerName your.server.name is still commented out, but apache is able to use gethostbyname() and correctly fill in the welcome screen in apache. In 8.2, something is fishy. [Skyline] # hostname Skyline.3111Skyline.com That looks OK [Skyline] # hostname --fqdn Unknown host That looks bad So it seems the problem with apache isn't with apache or httpd.conf, but rather with my hostname setup. I have set hostname and domainname, and I can't figure out why hostname --fqdn would return unknown host? What config file am I failing to check? /etc/sysconfig/network has the right hostname. Gary Dunn wrote: On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 06:29, David Rankin wrote: Just a quick Q, because I'm suffering from a mental lapse. I'm getting Apache configured on 8.2. The SERVER_NAME variable in the default Welcome screen is pulling 127.0.0.1 instead of the actual host name. Hostname is working fine. Where do I look to get this fixed. You definitely need to edit httpd.conf, which may be located in /usr/local/apache/conf depending on how your system is set up. (My apache is on a FreeBSD box, which puts it in /usr/local/etc/apache.) Look for this: # ServerName allows you to set a host name which is sent back to clients for # your server if it's different than the one the program would get (i.e., use # www instead of the host's real name). # # Note: You cannot just invent host names and hope they work. The name you # define here must be a valid DNS name for your host. If you don't understand # this, ask your network administrator. # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here. # You will have to access it by its address (e.g., http://123.45.67.89/) # anyway, and this will make redirections work in a sensible way. # # 127.0.0.1 is the TCP/IP local loop-back address, often named localhost. Your # machine always knows itself by this address. If you use Apache strictly for # local testing and development, you may use 127.0.0.1 as the server name. # ServerName your.server.name Gary Dunn Open Slate Project - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jean-Yves Le Metayer wrote:
Here below is described a bug of this version :
sample ASCII file (sample.txt)
--
ab AB
AB ab
cd CD
CD cd
[snip]
simple awk file (simple.awk)
{ line++ }
! /^[A-Z]+/ { print line - $0 }
command
---
cat sample.txt | awk -f simple.awk
result
--
1 - ab AB
Strange result, isn't it?
The expected result is :
1 - ab AB
3 - cd CD
BUG! At first, I don't believe it. The awk in Mandrake 8.1 cannot be
used.
Is it the same behavior in Mandrake 8.2?
Hmmm.. odd error. I wonder if it's picking up the front anchor as a
negation. Your syntax *looks* correct for, but I suspect that awk
is interpreting either the bang or the circumflex differently that
expected. Try:
{ line++ }
/^[^[:upper:]]+/ { print line - $0 }
What are you specifically trying to match (in English)?
There may be an advantage (as far as execution is concerned) to look for
the negation since the check would stop on the first non-match, but it
may be a moot point.
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Re: [expert] linux and netware
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jonathan I. Nori wrote: Hi! Now, I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, so just bear with me for a minute. Can I set up a linux box, Mandrake or otherwise, that will emulate a Netware Bindery box and allow drive mapping through NDS? I want to be able to move some storage space off the netware boxes and onto a linux box without having to make my end users jump through 15 hoops. I want to move the files and then just change the drive mappings in the login scripts. I do this now with a Snap server, but my assistant (who's the real linux mind around here; I'm a Netware sysadmin) and I aren't sure how to make our current Mandrake installation appear as a Netware server to NDS. I set one up about a year ago to help in the migration from a 4.x box. It required a rebuild of the kernel to support IPX and netware. From what I recall it was a bindery only. I'm not sure about NDS support but you may not need it to just map drives. http://pcquest.ciol.com/content/networking/100080111.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] linux and netware
Under Mandrake 8.x a kernel rebuild is -NOT- needed as the modules are already present. No NDS support though... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:56 PM |To: |Subject: Re: [expert] linux and netware | |I set one up about a year ago to help in the migration from a |4.x box. It required a rebuild of the kernel to support IPX |and netware. From what I recall it was a bindery only. I'm not |sure about NDS support but you may not need it to just map drives. | |http://pcquest.ciol.com/content/networking/100080111.asp | | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Chkrootkit shows nothing ??
A few days ago, I got some KWrited docs popping up on my Mandrake 8.1 desktop (Security warning: World Writeable files found followed by a long list of files located on both hardrives). I am a linux newbie and assumed the popups were the product of some kind of monitoring utility that I had inadvertently installed. Although I have a simple workstation setup (except for the extra partitions and triple boot aspect to it!) and installed 8.1 with medium security, I went back into 8.1's control panel and re-set it to medium security and the Kwrited popups stopped appearing. From the lists of files displayed, I assumed my machine had been compromised and that I would have to partition, reformat, reload the win98, mandrake 8.1 and Redhat 5.1 partition in order to make things right. I downloaded chkrootkit (and with some help from this group), ran it while booted to the main HD/ Mandrake 8.1 just to see what was up. Surprisingly it showed nothing. I'm not sure why that is. I am not familiar with chkrootkit and may have failed to run it so that it searched all of the drives. Can anyone tell me how to run it to seach RH 5.1 or the win98SE partition? Can that be done from 8.1 on the other drive as I attempted? Does it check comprehensively or does it only check the drive/OS that it is booted to? Secondly, is it possible that, despite the KWrited popops that occured on 2 different occasions, my machine is unnaffected? dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] linux and netware
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Under Mandrake 8.x a kernel rebuild is -NOT- needed as the modules are already present. No NDS support though... Indeed it is! I was searching trying to find my notes on the project but came up blank. What I do recall was the the DOS mode drivers worked without a hitch, but the Client32 drivers for Win98(???) had major problems. The M$ drivers should also work. I seem to recall another project besides Mars_NWE but cannot locate it on Google or Freshmeat. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Paranoid install unable to ping.
Thanks much!!! As you probably know it worked great. Have you seen any docs on the different levels of security during the latest Mandrake 8.2 install?? It would be nice to know the other differences. Thanks again *** On Fri, 10 May 2002, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: I've got this at the end of my firewall script to allow me to do pings. echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts HTH David -Original Message- From: Len Pikulski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Paranoid install unable to ping. Is there a way to allow ping returns when doing a Paranoid security level install. I couldn't find any documented differences between the different levels, (that would also be helpful) Thanks in advance for your reply *** Len Pikulski[EMAIL PROTECTED] (856) 222-1514 http://www.nothinbut.net *** Len Pikulski[EMAIL PROTECTED] (856) 222-1514 http://www.nothinbut.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mdk8.2 and radeon 7000 pci
Once you do the XFree86 -configure, you can successfully reconfigure the resolution from the control center. I just did the 7000 upgrade last night. OTOH, if I run XFree86 -configure I do get a configuration that at least starts up. I can log in and KDE seems to work ok - haven't tried Gnome yet. But the resolution and color depth stinks. I can't tell for sure what color depth is used but I think it's 8 bit (I see error messages complaining about using unsupported 8 bit when X exits). Resolution looks like 640x480. I've tried copying lines to force color depth and resolution higher but I only go back to scrambled video and/or lockups when I do. = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache SERVER_NAME quick Q
Ok, I'll dig into that. My 7.2 box is running right now and it 'digs' just fine. I'll crank up 8.2 when I get home and see whats up: [david@Nemesis david]$ dig 3111skyline.com ; DiG 8.2 3111skyline.com ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; 3111skyline.com, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: 3111skyline.com.12H IN A66.76.41.206 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 3111skyline.com.12H IN NS ns1.domaindiscover.com. 3111skyline.com.12H IN NS ns2.domaindiscover.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.domaindiscover.com. 1d4h36m52s IN A 216.104.161.21 ns2.domaindiscover.com. 1d4h36m52s IN A 216.104.161.22 ;; Total query time: 178 msec ;; FROM: Nemesis.rbpllc.com to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1 ;; WHEN: Fri May 10 14:48:45 2002 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 33 rcvd: 132 Gary Dunn wrote: On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 10:18, David Rankin wrote: Well, I should have been more clear, and maybe the problem isn't as simple as I thought. On my 7.2 box, #ServerName your.server.name is still commented out, but apache is able to use gethostbyname() and correctly fill in the welcome screen in apache. In 8.2, something is fishy. [Skyline] # hostname Skyline.3111Skyline.com That looks OK [Skyline] # hostname --fqdn Unknown host That looks bad So it seems the problem with apache isn't with apache or httpd.conf, but rather with my hostname setup. I have set hostname and domainname, and I can't Looks like a DNS - bind - network configuration problem. hostname alone takes your host's name from a file, while the fqdn option tells hostname to do a DNS lookup. Does the output to dig slashdot.org look similar to this? ; DiG 9.2.0rc3 slashdot.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48421 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;slashdot.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: slashdot.org. 7930IN A 64.28.67.150 ... And of course you should dig yourself: $ dig Skyline.3111Skyline.com ; DiG 9.2.0rc3 Skyline.3111Skyline.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 39873 I think this -- is your problem. ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;Skyline.3111Skyline.com. IN A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Chkrootkit shows nothing ??
Daniel Stiefel wrote: A few days ago, I got some KWrited docs popping up on my Mandrake 8.1 desktop (Security warning: World Writeable files found followed by a long list of files located on both hardrives). I am a linux newbie and assumed the popups were the product of some kind of monitoring utility that I had inadvertently installed. This is correct, and the installed program doing these checks is a program called, by Mandrake, msec. Although I have a simple workstation setup (except for the extra partitions and triple boot aspect to it!) and installed 8.1 with medium security, I went back into 8.1's control panel and re-set it to medium security and the Kwrited popups stopped appearing. With this move, you have loosened your security settings. You have gone down a level, and this could be okay or it could be a problem for you, in terms of security. It depends a lot on other variables, such as how you connect to the internet, what other kinds of protection are you running (firewall, etc.), and so on. From the lists of files displayed, I assumed my machine had been compromised and that I would have to partition, reformat, reload the win98, mandrake 8.1 and Redhat 5.1 partition in order to make things right. I downloaded chkrootkit (and with some help from this group), ran it while booted to the main HD/ Mandrake 8.1 just to see what was up. Surprisingly it showed nothing. I'm not sure why that is. I am not familiar with chkrootkit and may have failed to run it so that it searched all of the drives. How are you running it? We need a little more info on this part of your operation. Can anyone tell me how to run it to seach RH 5.1 or the win98SE partition? Can that be done from 8.1 on the other drive as I attempted? Does it check comprehensively or does it only check the drive/OS that it is booted to? Not sure about win98. Have not used it in years but it should work for red hat. Again, I need to know more about how you are running it. Secondly, is it possible that, despite the KWrited popops that occured on 2 different occasions, my machine is unnaffected? Dan, it is entirely possible that your machine is *not* compromised. The listing you were getting is simply telling you that you have directories and files that can be executed, read, and changed/deleted by anyone that has access to your system. That means these directories are set to 777 permissions, and these files are set to 666 perms. Are you getting any other kind of warnings? Hope it helps, -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration http://www.trismegistus.net Character is built upon the debris of dispair --Emerson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.2 Install second ide cdrom bug
Keith Bambery wrote: I am really looking for the correct place to send bug reports. Can someone please direct me to the correct place for this. I recently installed Mandrake 8.2 and my second ide dvd drive was recognised and configured except the scsi emulation was missed. I had to add it to the append=devfs= ... line in lilo.conf. Then I had to correct /etc/fstab to match. It seems to be mostly OK now. Before the fix the drive was not discovered by any cd burning applications. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Now my ATAPI CDRW/DVD was detected and set up as a CDRW, but I had to make the /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd links to make the program(s) serving it work. That is a known bug and it is in the hardware detection, not the stuff set up by install (as mine is). Not all cdrw/dvds are created equal, and I am glad the blasted things work this round--mostly, before this, they didn't. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Chkrootkit shows nothing ??
You don't recall the names of some of the files, do you? Whether a particular file being world-readable is a security problem depends entirely on which file it is. It is entirely possible that one of your applications is saving files with this permission. Did this occur shortly after you started using an application for the first time, or after you had saved files from an application? It is by no means clear that your workstation has been compromised, and I would look more carefully before I did anything so drastic as to reformat and start over. You could get a list of *all* world-writeable files with the following command line: find / -perm +002 -print # warning - that could be a lot of files! you might want to redirect it to a file... Also, you said that you have a Win98 partition. Look carefully at the permissions assigned to it. It would not surprise me a whole lot if it was world-writeable. You might be able to check this with a mount command. not sure, and not on a Linux box right now :-( If that isn't informative, take a look at the file /etc/fstab and see what options are used on the win98 partition. You might also check the man page for mount and see what it says about default settings for vfat partitions. D. Jones J. Craig Woods wrote: Daniel Stiefel wrote: A few days ago, I got some KWrited docs popping up on my Mandrake 8.1 desktop (Security warning: World Writeable files found followed by a long list of files located on both hardrives). I am a linux newbie and assumed the popups were the product of some kind of monitoring utility that I had inadvertently installed. This is correct, and the installed program doing these checks is a program called, by Mandrake, msec. Although I have a simple workstation setup (except for the extra partitions and triple boot aspect to it!) and installed 8.1 with medium security, I went back into 8.1's control panel and re-set it to medium security and the Kwrited popups stopped appearing. With this move, you have loosened your security settings. You have gone down a level, and this could be okay or it could be a problem for you, in terms of security. It depends a lot on other variables, such as how you connect to the internet, what other kinds of protection are you running (firewall, etc.), and so on. From the lists of files displayed, I assumed my machine had been compromised and that I would have to partition, reformat, reload the win98, mandrake 8.1 and Redhat 5.1 partition in order to make things right. I downloaded chkrootkit (and with some help from this group), ran it while booted to the main HD/ Mandrake 8.1 just to see what was up. Surprisingly it showed nothing. I'm not sure why that is. I am not familiar with chkrootkit and may have failed to run it so that it searched all of the drives. How are you running it? We need a little more info on this part of your operation. Can anyone tell me how to run it to seach RH 5.1 or the win98SE partition? Can that be done from 8.1 on the other drive as I attempted? Does it check comprehensively or does it only check the drive/OS that it is booted to? Not sure about win98. Have not used it in years but it should work for red hat. Again, I need to know more about how you are running it. Secondly, is it possible that, despite the KWrited popops that occured on 2 different occasions, my machine is unnaffected? Dan, it is entirely possible that your machine is *not* compromised. The listing you were getting is simply telling you that you have directories and files that can be executed, read, and changed/deleted by anyone that has access to your system. That means these directories are set to 777 permissions, and these files are set to 666 perms. Are you getting any other kind of warnings? Hope it helps, -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration http://www.trismegistus.net Character is built upon the debris of dispair --Emerson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Chkrootkit shows nothing ??
Daniel Stiefel wrote: A few days ago, I got some KWrited docs popping up on my Mandrake 8.1 desktop (Security warning: World Writeable files found followed by a long list of files located on both hardrives). I am a linux newbie and assumed the popups were the product of some kind of monitoring utility that I had inadvertently installed. This is correct, and the installed program doing these checks is a program called, by Mandrake, msec. Yes, I remember installing that. Although I have a simple workstation setup (except for the extra partitions and triple boot aspect to it!) and installed 8.1 with medium security, I went back into 8.1's control panel and re-set it to medium security and the Kwrited popups stopped appearing. With this move, you have loosened your security settings. You have gone down a level, and this could be okay or it could be a problem for you, in terms of security. It depends a lot on other variables, such as how you connect to the internet, what other kinds of protection are you running (firewall, etc.), and so on. Ok, I went back in and set the security level up to high. (And plugged the network cable back in.) From the lists of files displayed, I assumed my machine had been compromised and that I would have to partition, reformat, reload the win98, mandrake 8.1 and Redhat 5.1 partition in order to make things right. I downloaded chkrootkit (and with some help from this group), ran it while booted to the main HD/ Mandrake 8.1 just to see what was up. Surprisingly it showed nothing. I'm not sure why that is. I am not familiar with chkrootkit and may have failed to run it so that it searched all of the drives. How are you running it? We need a little more info on this part of your operation. From the Mandrake 8.1 partition on my primary drive (which also contains win98SE) logged on as a user, I su-ed to a folder on my desktop where I had downloaded chkrootkit, untarred it in a second directory and then changed into that directory, used the make command and then the chkrootkit command. It reported no problems. (I also have a slave drive with RH 5.1 which boots to a boot floppy (the whole reason for this setup ... we need 5.1 to run a deadended legacy app and Mandrake 8.1 to run a cdburner for outputting the apps data...). Am not sure if it was checked Can anyone tell me how to run it to seach RH 5.1 or the win98SE partition? Can that be done from 8.1 on the other drive as I attempted? Does it check comprehensively or does it only check the drive/OS that it is booted to? Not sure about win98. Have not used it in years but it should work for red hat. Again, I need to know more about how you are running it. Secondly, is it possible that, despite the KWrited popops that occured on 2 different occasions, my machine is unnaffected? Dan, it is entirely possible that your machine is *not* compromised. The listing you were getting is simply telling you that you have directories and files that can be executed, read, and changed/deleted by anyone that has access to your system. That means these directories are set to 777 permissions, and these files are set to 666 perms. Are you getting any other kind of warnings? No, the file listings just looked suspicious. Things like: /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/blues /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/classical /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/country /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/data /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/folk /usr/share/Abisuite/fonts/s051.u2g etc. Also some Security Warnings for User Unowned files found: /RH51data_hdb1/stiefeld/gnome (stiefeld is me) etc. ? Hope it helps, It helps TONS! When you know just a little, it's dangerous. Easy to misinterpret things. All your inputs really help me get oriented. When I read books/ webinfo, typically it is for generic situations and not directly applicable to my particular twisted situation... Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Making load file for repeated 8.1 CD installs ?
Due to my inexperience, I seem to find myself reloading Mandrake 8.1 a lot. (And for that matter, my second boot Redhat 5.1). The worst part is going thru all the packages and selecting the ones I want or need. I suspect there is a way to save all those selections on a file and invoke them during the install process. SysAdmins must do that although they may be working via an ftp install... I am going to reinstall again and was wondering if anyone knows how I can create this ability for either of these distributions so that if I need to format and reinstall again, it won't be so time consuming? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jean-Yves Le Metayer wrote:
Here below is described a bug of this version :
sample ASCII file (sample.txt)
--
ab AB
AB ab
cd CD
CD cd
[snip]
simple awk file (simple.awk)
{ line++ }
! /^[A-Z]+/ { print line - $0 }
command
---
cat sample.txt | awk -f simple.awk
result
--
1 - ab AB
Strange result, isn't it?
The expected result is :
1 - ab AB
3 - cd CD
BUG! At first, I don't believe it. The awk in Mandrake 8.1 cannot be
used.
Is it the same behavior in Mandrake 8.2?
Hmmm.. odd error. I wonder if it's picking up the front anchor as a
negation. Your syntax *looks* correct for, but I suspect that awk
is interpreting either the bang or the circumflex differently that
expected. Try:
{ line++ }
/^[^[:upper:]]+/ { print line - $0 }
What are you specifically trying to match (in English)?
There may be an advantage (as far as execution is concerned) to look for
the negation since the check would stop on the first non-match, but it
may be a moot point.
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Not strange at all...
in a terminal window, run locale
Check the value of LC_COLLATE
If it is en_US this is quite normal, the collating sequence is AaBbCc, etc.
If you want the result you seek, make your program use upper as
suggested or set your LC_COLLATE to POSIX.
No, it is not a bug, it is a standard expanded feature that keeps
programmers on their toes to write platform independent stuff.
Civileme
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[expert] Any problems with NEC LCD 1550V monitor?
Hello, I'm about to replace my CRT monitor with an LCD monitor mainly because of RF interference to my radio equipment. The monitor that I'm considering is an NEC LCD 1550V Multisync. Online reviews show this to be an economical and all-round useful monitor. However I'm concerned by reports that text is hard to read especially for old eyes. Apparently this is due to very thin characters. I would expect that if this a problem then a larger font could be selected. Is this true? Any comments on this monitor or LCD monitors in general would be appreciated. By the way, I'm looking forward to upgrading to Mdk 8.2 and SO 6. -- Regards, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Making load file for repeated 8.1 CD installs ?
On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 19:09, db wrote: Due to my inexperience, I seem to find myself reloading Mandrake 8.1 a lot. (And for that matter, my second boot Redhat 5.1). The worst part is going thru all the packages and selecting the ones I want or need. I suspect there is a way to save all those selections on a file and invoke them during the install process. SysAdmins must do that although they may be working via an ftp install... I am going to reinstall again and was wondering if anyone knows how I can create this ability for either of these distributions so that if I need to format and reinstall again, it won't be so time consuming? At the end of the install, choose the Advanced button, and there's an option to save your package selection. -- Brad Felmey Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Chkrootkit shows nothing ??
I have a pretty plausible guess for what is going on, and it is not a compromise. First, all the files in /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb are related to the CD player that comes with KDE. (that's the kscd part.) CDDB is a database of track information on lots of CDs that can be accessed over the 'net. kscd uses it to provide you with the names of the tracks, etc, when you play a CD. If it doesn't already have the info it downloads it. It looks to me like kscd is saving these in world-writeable files. This would only be suspicious if (for instance) * the files are new and you haven't been using kscd * the files are executables * the files are suid (cleaned up some of the many quoted sections a bit) Regarding the User Unowned files found: /RH51data_hdb1/stiefeld/gnome (stiefeld is me) I note that this is on your RH partition. You might check and see what your UID is on RH versus Mandrake. If it is not the same then when Mandrake looks at RH (and vice versa) the UID will not be recognized and this error could be generated. To check this just do an ls -l If the OS recognizes the UID then the user name will appear, otherwise is will display the UID number. This is something to remember when setting up accounts on multiboot systems! You *can* specify the UID, and if they are the same on all the *nix systems that will see the partition, so much the better. db wrote: No, the file listings just looked suspicious. Things like: /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/blues /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/classical /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/country /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/data /usr/share/apps/kcsd/cddb/folk /usr/share/Abisuite/fonts/s051.u2g etc. Also some Security Warnings for User Unowned files found: /RH51data_hdb1/stiefeld/gnome (stiefeld is me) etc. ? Hope it helps, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, civileme wrote: Not strange at all... in a terminal window, run locale Check the value of LC_COLLATE If it is en_US this is quite normal, the collating sequence is AaBbCc, etc. If you want the result you seek, make your program use upper as suggested or set your LC_COLLATE to POSIX. No, it is not a bug, it is a standard expanded feature that keeps programmers on their toes to write platform independent stuff. I could forgive myself if I hadn't just answered an 'ls doesn't sort right question' about two minutes before the above. But then I did: export LC_LOCATE=C awk -f simple.awk sample.txt Weird, same errors... :/ (note stupid syntax error). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
On Friday 10 May 2002 08:02 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2002, civileme wrote: Not strange at all... in a terminal window, run locale Check the value of LC_COLLATE If it is en_US this is quite normal, the collating sequence is AaBbCc, etc. If you want the result you seek, make your program use upper as suggested or set your LC_COLLATE to POSIX. No, it is not a bug, it is a standard expanded feature that keeps programmers on their toes to write platform independent stuff. I could forgive myself if I hadn't just answered an 'ls doesn't sort right question' about two minutes before the above. But then I did: export LC_LOCATE=C awk -f simple.awk sample.txt Weird, same errors... :/ (note stupid syntax error). Do you have dyslexia? -- Altoine B Maximum Time Unlimited Chicago Based and Operated How do you know she is a unicorn? Molly demanded. And why were you afraid to let her touch you? I saw you. You were afraid of her. I doubt that I will feel like talking for very long, the cat replied without rancor. I would not waste time in foolishness if I were you. As to your first question, no cat out of its first fur can ever be deceived by appearances. Unlike human beings, who enjoy them. As for your second question -- Here he faltered, and suddenly became very interested in washing; nor would he speak until he had licked himself fluffy and then licked himself smooth again. Even then he would not look at Molly, but examined his claws. If she had touched me, he said very softly, I would have been hers and not my own, not ever again. -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn --- 2.4.18-13mdk Mandrake Linux release 8.3 (Cooker) for i586 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
On Fri, 10 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could forgive myself if I hadn't just answered an 'ls doesn't sort right question' about two minutes before the above. But then I did: export LC_LOCATE=C awk -f simple.awk sample.txt Weird, same errors... :/ (note stupid syntax error). I'm lonely so I'll reply to my own post: Technically not a *syntax* error... civileme: Do all these utilities (grep, awk, sed, etc) implement their own sort routines internally? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, nDiScReEt wrote: export LC_LOCATE=C awk -f simple.awk sample.txt Weird, same errors... :/ (note stupid syntax error). Do you have dyslexia? As far as I know, no. But I do make similar errors very often. More likely I was doing a 'locate' and got the word stuck in my head. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could forgive myself if I hadn't just answered an 'ls doesn't sort right question' about two minutes before the above. But then I did: export LC_LOCATE=C awk -f simple.awk sample.txt Weird, same errors... :/ (note stupid syntax error). I'm lonely so I'll reply to my own post: Technically not a *syntax* error... civileme: Do all these utilities (grep, awk, sed, etc) implement their own sort routines internally? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Yes, see http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1093lang=en The trick is to use [:lower:] and [:upper:] type constructs to stay independent of LANG and LC_COLLATE variables--(I think you need to set both otherwise) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] OT: HD upgrade
I have bought a new harddrive and would like to _move_ my current Mandrake installation over to the new drive without having to re-install. Is this possible? How would I go about doing so? My guess is that it is _not_ possible to do so while booted into Linux. tia Dave -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.4claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Chkrootkit shows nothing ??
Dan, The messages about world writeable files are from Mandrake Security (better known as /usr/sbin/msec). The first time it runs, it tells you about all the anomalies it detects - unusual file permision, etc. After that, each time it runs it compares what it finds (today) to what it found yesterday. If there are differences, it will report them. Look in /var/log/security to see the today and yesterday fils. David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Apache SERVER_NAME quick Q
That one I don't have and will have to rely on someones else to be able to duplicate. James On Fri, 10 May 2002 16:32:55 -0500 David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.., but what if I have BIND running and host.resolve set to BIND, hosts? James wrote: Ok did a test. and got the following. If you have something like this in /etc/hosts. 10.0.0.1 my.box.com my where 10.0.0.1 is your IP number, my.box.com is the full name of the box, and my is the nickname. hostname and hostname --fqdn work. If you remove the nickname and just have 10.0.0.1 my.box.com hostname returns my.box.com and hostname --fqdn returns host unknow. or if you have the default that Mandrake sets up, 10.0.0.1 my then hostname works and again hostname --fqdn returns host unkown. James On Thu, 09 May 2002 15:18:23 -0500 David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I should have been more clear, and maybe the problem isn't as simple as I thought. On my 7.2 box, #ServerName your.server.name is still commented out, but apache is able to use gethostbyname() and correctly fill in the welcome screen in apache. In 8.2, something is fishy. [Skyline] # hostname Skyline.3111Skyline.com That looks OK [Skyline] # hostname --fqdn Unknown host That looks bad So it seems the problem with apache isn't with apache or httpd.conf, but rather with my hostname setup. I have set hostname and domainname, and I can't figure out why hostname --fqdn would return unknown host? What config file am I failing to check? /etc/sysconfig/network has the right hostname. Gary Dunn wrote: On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 06:29, David Rankin wrote: Just a quick Q, because I'm suffering from a mental lapse. I'm getting Apache configured on 8.2. The SERVER_NAME variable in the default Welcome screen is pulling 127.0.0.1 instead of the actual host name. Hostname is working fine. Where do I look to get this fixed. You definitely need to edit httpd.conf, which may be located in /usr/local/apache/conf depending on how your system is set up. (My apache is on a FreeBSD box, which puts it in /usr/local/etc/apache.) Look for this: # ServerName allows you to set a host name which is sent back to clients for # your server if it's different than the one the program would get(i.e., use # www instead of the host's real name). # # Note: You cannot just invent host names and hope they work. The name you # define here must be a valid DNS name for your host. If you don't understand # this, ask your network administrator. # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here. # You will have to access it by its address (e.g., http://123.45.67.89/) # anyway, and this will make redirections work in a sensible way.# # 127.0.0.1 is the TCP/IP local loop-back address, often named localhost. Your # machine always knows itself by this address. If you use Apache strictly for # local testing and development, you may use 127.0.0.1 as the server name. # ServerName your.server.name Gary Dunn Open Slate Project - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 1329 N. University, Suite D4 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
On Fri, 10 May 2002 17:43:40 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jean-Yves Le Metayer wrote:
Here below is described a bug of this version :
sample ASCII file (sample.txt)
--
ab AB
AB ab
cd CD
CD cd
[snip]
simple awk file (simple.awk)
{ line++ }
! /^[A-Z]+/ { print line - $0 }
command
---
cat sample.txt | awk -f simple.awk
result
--
1 - ab AB
Strange result, isn't it?
The expected result is :
1 - ab AB
3 - cd CD
BUG! At first, I don't believe it. The awk in Mandrake 8.1 cannot be
used.
Is it the same behavior in Mandrake 8.2?
Hmmm.. odd error. I wonder if it's picking up the front anchor as a
negation. Your syntax *looks* correct for, but I suspect that awk
is interpreting either the bang or the circumflex differently that
expected. Try:
{ line++ }
/^[^[:upper:]]+/ { print line - $0 }
What are you specifically trying to match (in English)?
There may be an advantage (as far as execution is concerned) to look
for the negation since the check would stop on the first non-match,
but it may be a moot point.
Ran this one myself on 8.2 and 7.1 redhat. on rh I got the expected
results on 8.2 I got the results you described for 8.1
James
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Re: [expert] Strange behavior of AWK in Mandrake 8.1?
On Fri, 10 May 2002 16:14:34 -0800
civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jean-Yves Le Metayer wrote:
Here below is described a bug of this version :
sample ASCII file (sample.txt)
--
ab AB
AB ab
cd CD
CD cd
[snip]
simple awk file (simple.awk)
{ line++ }
! /^[A-Z]+/ { print line - $0 }
command
---
cat sample.txt | awk -f simple.awk
result
--
1 - ab AB
Strange result, isn't it?
The expected result is :
1 - ab AB
3 - cd CD
BUG! At first, I don't believe it. The awk in Mandrake 8.1 cannot be
used.
Is it the same behavior in Mandrake 8.2?
Hmmm.. odd error. I wonder if it's picking up the front anchor as a
negation. Your syntax *looks* correct for, but I suspect that awk
is interpreting either the bang or the circumflex differently that
expected. Try:
{ line++ }
/^[^[:upper:]]+/ { print line - $0 }
What are you specifically trying to match (in English)?
There may be an advantage (as far as execution is concerned) to look
for the negation since the check would stop on the first non-match,
but it may be a moot point.
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Not strange at all...
in a terminal window, run locale
Check the value of LC_COLLATE
If it is en_US this is quite normal, the collating sequence is AaBbCc,
etc.
If you want the result you seek, make your program use upper as
suggested or set your LC_COLLATE to POSIX.
No, it is not a bug, it is a standard expanded feature that keeps
programmers on their toes to write platform independent stuff.
Civileme
Civilme,
Where I don't doubt you one bit I did check both my RH7.1 box and my
Mandrake 8.2 box both returned en_US when I did local. On both I'm on
alt-f1 when I run the test and on 8.2 I got the same as he did with 8.1.
On RH7.1 I got the expected result. Not saying it's a bug just adding
info to the pool.
James
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Re: [expert] Making load file for repeated 8.1 CD installs ?
Actually, it also saves a file called replay_install.img in the /root directory, so that could be the floppy image you need to install the same waynot sure as I've never used it. Michael -- Michael Viron Project Manager / Primary Developer, General Education Online Core Systems Group, Simple End User Linux At 07:33 PM 5/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 19:09, db wrote: Due to my inexperience, I seem to find myself reloading Mandrake 8.1 a lot. (And for that matter, my second boot Redhat 5.1). The worst part is going thru all the packages and selecting the ones I want or need. I suspect there is a way to save all those selections on a file and invoke them during the install process. SysAdmins must do that although they may be working via an ftp install... I am going to reinstall again and was wondering if anyone knows how I can create this ability for either of these distributions so that if I need to format and reinstall again, it won't be so time consuming? At the end of the install, choose the Advanced button, and there's an option to save your package selection. -- Brad Felmey Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
