[expert] Color limiting icewm

2002-08-20 Thread ddc_prueba

I have a Xserver that has to work in 8bpp mode. Problem is that window
manager is eating up all colours. kwin (KDE's wm) goes fine, but it's
too big for the little machine to go smooth.
icewm it's ok bat I haven't found how to color limit it or how to change
the colour table it uses. Any help or simple URL are welcome.

Thanx

PS: fvwm2 has an option to colorlimit but mouse is not properly working
there (??)

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Re: [expert] need help for Mesa ...

2002-08-20 Thread hans schneidhofer

hi benjamin,
first at all thanks for your answer.
yes, I'm using blender as well as I would use mindseye. and especially for 
that mindseye I need OpenGL (Mesa, and glut)

I'm planning to do some jobs in modelling, animations and pictures. Have done 
such jobs a few years ago on a Suns-Sparc 10 and an SGI-Indigo. on the 
Sun-Sparc-10 I had run the gig3dgo, its like blender, and on the SGI I was 
working with Alias-Animator. Have nothing seen which would have the same 
featers like that - a really first class tool for animations with a 
bones-tool and much more. 
So I'll try to do the same again on a linux-basis. Have seen some good tools. 
for shure, they have only one or two very good tools for itself, but having 
10 or 15 tools, which are doing their jobs very good, maybe I can do good 
compisitions of all of that tools. I'll try.

have seen a bones-tool in or for mindseye, but have to look again in the 
webspace, so I can be shure, what I say now.

anyway, I am happy for your helps and ideas
thanks and bye
hans

Am Montag, 19. August 2002 22:50 schrieben Sie:
 On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 21:09, hans schneidhofer wrote:
  hi Benjamin,
  a last question :
  which Rage 128 do you have ?

 rage pro 128 fury 32 Mb

  because was reading about ati rage 128 with a Mach64-chip will NOT be
  supported. exactly this rage pro 128 I have - 2-times for both of my 2
  linuxboxes.

 I don't known anything about chipset ;) Maybe, I have it but I really
 don't know. how can i see that ?

  would it be a good idea to buy a new graphiccard like a FIRE GL or an
  nvidia-based GeForce ? so I had read, that the FireGL has 256 MB Ram and
  a very good driver for OpenGL. But I dont't have any experiences right
  now.

 Maybe but NVidia drivers aren't gpl. So it's a choice of you.
 What do you want to do with openGL ? if it's playing some cool games,
 your ati is very sufficient but if you want to develop openGL
 softwares/games or works with 3D software like blender, ... maybe try a
 more powerfull card than a rage 128.
 A friend of mine have a ati radeon 8500 and it's a really powerfull
 card.

 ati powa ;)

  thanks one more time
  bye hans

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[expert] processes not stopping, but eating 100% cpu time

2002-08-20 Thread Holger Schurig

In history, I used Red Hat from 5.2 till 6.2, then I switched over to 
Mandrake. However, with Mandrake (including 8.2) I sometimes have the effect 
that an application doesn't get killed, but instead eats 100% of cpu time.

This happens to many console based applications, but one way to reproduce it:

Install telnet, telnet into your own box, start ntsysv, kill the connection.

Open X-Windows, open a console, start ntsysv, close the window by clicking the 
X button on the window.


Other applications are our self-compiled ones, or icpcon (a configuration 
program for ICP Vortex RAID controllers). This app is statically linked (get 
it from http://www.vortex.de/ftp/download/rdrnrsrz/linux/icpcon.gz, it run's 
even when you don't have such a controller installed).

The strange thing: this happens mostly with ncurses-based applications, but 
not with all. mc, the midnight commander, works very well.


As I said, those applications where terminated correctly on Red Hat. I'm just 
puzzled. Any hints?




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Re: [expert] processes not stopping, but eating 100% cpu time

2002-08-20 Thread Joan Tur

Es Dimarts 20 Agost 2002 09:24, en Holger Schurig va escriure:
 The strange thing: this happens mostly with ncurses-based applications, but
 not with all. mc, the midnight commander, works very well.
Open a console, su to root, start mc... and then kill the console without 
having shut down mc.

That keeps mc loaded and eating 100% cpu cycles.  Tryed under Mandrake 8.2 and 
Debian Woody...

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Re: [expert] processes not stopping, but eating 100% cpu time

2002-08-20 Thread Holger Schurig

 Open a console, su to root, start mc... and then kill the console without 
 having shut down mc. That keeps mc loaded and eating 100% cpu cycles.
 Tryed under Mandrake 8.2 and Debian Woody...

Strange, not on my system. I have a self-compiled KDE 3.0.2, so my console is 
konsole. The used su is 

sh-utils-2.0.11-8mdk

su calls bash version

bash-2.05-16mdk

which calls mc with version

mc-4.5.55-7mdk

mc is linked with

libgpm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 (0x4001e000)
libglib-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x40024000)
libext2fs.so.2 = /lib/libext2fs.so.2 (0x4004a000)
libcom_err.so.2 = /lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0x4006)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40063000)
libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x4019f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

which translates to

libgpm1-1.19.6-3mdk
libglib1.2-1.2.10-4mdk
libext2fs2-1.27-1.1mdk
glibc-2.2.4-25.1mdk
libncurses5-5.2-23mdk
glibc-2.2.4-25.1mdk

But on my system this does NOT hang. Can you look at the versions of your 
RPMs?




But others, e.g. icpcon, hang nevertheless. Can it be that something doesn't 
propagate a needed signal?

Something may be
- su when you do su as you mentioned
- one of xinetd in.telned login when you telnet into your own box

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Re: [expert] processes not stopping, but eating 100% cpu time

2002-08-20 Thread Joan Tur

Es Dimarts 20 Agost 2002 15:42, en Holger Schurig va escriure:
  Open a console, su to root, start mc... and then kill the console without
  having shut down mc. That keeps mc loaded and eating 100% cpu cycles.
  Tryed under Mandrake 8.2 and Debian Woody...

 Strange, not on my system. I have a self-compiled KDE 3.0.2, so my console
 is konsole...
It happened in my Mandrake 8.1 and 8.2 boxes... but now I cannot reproduce it 
under 9 beta 3 (after having send my email!)  O8-)

I'll reboot to the 8.2 box to check for the packages' versions and will post 
them here...

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[expert] Wondering about Bugzilla for LM 9.0beta3 bug reports

2002-08-20 Thread Bruce Saunders

Even though I have read the documentation, I
apparently don't know how to use Bugzilla.  I obtained
an account, submitted four bugs, received emails
confirming their submission, but when I try to query
them I keep getting zarro(sic) results found.  Can
anyone give me a clue about what I am doing wrong?

Thanks for any help.

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RE: [expert] Wondering about Bugzilla for LM 9.0beta3 bug reports

2002-08-20 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)


How are you searching for your bugs? If you give me the URL (don't have it
handy) for MDK's Bugzill, I can try to help you out...

David

-Original Message-
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Subject: [expert] Wondering about Bugzilla for LM 9.0beta3 bug reports


Even though I have read the documentation, I
apparently don't know how to use Bugzilla.  I obtained
an account, submitted four bugs, received emails
confirming their submission, but when I try to query
them I keep getting zarro(sic) results found.  Can
anyone give me a clue about what I am doing wrong?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce

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[expert] Resend to LX on nobody's UID...

2002-08-20 Thread J. Craig Woods

Damn sympa giving me fits again. Let try this one!

Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
 I've noticed that the account nobody on this system has a user id of
 65534.  Is this correct?
 
 I'm asking because back in the day I used to make backdoor admin
 accounts using UID numbers higher than 65535.  I thought it mighty odd
 to see a UID number this large naturally on the system.
 
 Comments...?
 
 LX
 
 
LX, it depends on the OS, and, for linux, the distro. Earlier versions
of mandrake used 99 as a uid for nobody, and Red Hat still uses 99 as
the uid for nobody, at least as recent as v7.2. Most current UNIX
systems also use 99 as the uid for nobody. You must be using some
newer version of mandrake, and the uid of 65534 is correct for that
version. 

Hope it helps,
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RE: [expert] Wondering about Bugzilla for LM 9.0beta3 bug reports

2002-08-20 Thread Bruce Saunders

Thanks David

It's qa.mandrakesoft.com.

I just go there, login, and at the query page I just
type in a word from the subject lines on the bugs I
submitted where it says subject, with 'contains any of
the words/strings selected'.  Also, the status
selected is 'new, assigned, reopen'.

Bruce

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wrote:
 
 How are you searching for your bugs? If you give me
 the URL (don't have it
 handy) for MDK's Bugzill, I can try to help you
 out...
 
 David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Saunders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [expert] Wondering about Bugzilla for LM
 9.0beta3 bug reports
 
 
 Even though I have read the documentation, I
 apparently don't know how to use Bugzilla.  I
 obtained
 an account, submitted four bugs, received emails
 confirming their submission, but when I try to query
 them I keep getting zarro(sic) results found.  Can
 anyone give me a clue about what I am doing wrong?
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
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Re: [expert] processes not stopping, but eating 100% cpu time

2002-08-20 Thread Todd Lyons

Joan Tur wrote on Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:24:51PM +0200 :
  The strange thing: this happens mostly with ncurses-based applications, but
  not with all. mc, the midnight commander, works very well.
 Open a console, su to root, start mc... and then kill the console without 
 having shut down mc.
 That keeps mc loaded and eating 100% cpu cycles.  Tryed under Mandrake
 8.2 and 

Same thing with vi.

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[expert] Swap space

2002-08-20 Thread Clorden

Hello.

Does anyone know what is *exactly* the maximum size of a swap partition on an 
i386 platform? Some howtos say it is about 2 GiB, but I need to know the 
exact number of hd blocks as to optimize the space used on hard disks.

And how many swap partitions can I have?

Thanks.

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Re: [expert] how to install a Usb Cable modem without network card...

2002-08-20 Thread Larry Sword

Rui Maia wrote:

 Anyone knows how i can install an Motorola 4200 SurfBoard USB Cable 
 Modem withou having a network card in linux ?
  
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[expert] Third Hard Drive

2002-08-20 Thread John Lowell

I'm in the process of downloading the 9.0 beta for a look. I'd like to put it 
on a third drive I have on this, my principle, system rather than on an 
ancillary system I'd typically use for testing. I'd be better able to keep an 
eye on it that way. I've hear that installation on a third drive is a no-no. 
It that true or just an old saw?

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Re: [expert] Third Hard Drive

2002-08-20 Thread et

On Tuesday 20 August 2002 07:23 pm, you wrote:
 I'm in the process of downloading the 9.0 beta for a look. I'd like to put
 it on a third drive I have on this, my principle, system rather than on an
 ancillary system I'd typically use for testing. I'd be better able to keep
 an eye on it that way. I've hear that installation on a third drive is a
 no-no. It that true or just an old saw?

 John Lowell
it don't matter to linux, and as long as winders is on the first partition of 
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Re: [expert] Third Hard Drive

2002-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 16:58 -0400, John Lowell wrote:
 What I had in mind here was booting from the 3rd drive, any problem in this
 respect?

No, if you have your LILO in the MBR of the first disk.
 
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Re: [expert] Third Hard Drive

2002-08-20 Thread John Lowell

Thank you, gentlemen!

John Lowell

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  What I had in mind here was booting from the 3rd drive, any problem in
this
  respect?

 No, if you have your LILO in the MBR of the first disk.

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[expert] What to use to analyse Apache logs?

2002-08-20 Thread Andrew George

Hi guys,
the title pretty much says it all.
I want to look at total traffic and be able to analyse the logs for intrusion 
attempts
any suggestions?
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[expert] devMAKEDEV packages

2002-08-20 Thread newslett

Ok, maybe this is a dumb question but here goes

If one is running the dev filesystem is it possible to upgrade these 
RPM's without using the installer?? I am under the impression that dev 
gets loaded fairly early on and it becomes a real pain to upgrade these 
as a result.

Any ideas are greatly appreciated. I am running ML 9.0 B3 plus Cooker 
upgrades (minus dev and MAKEDEV =)

Cheers,

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[expert] Asus A7V333 power supply question

2002-08-20 Thread Phil

Hello All,

Because my present system is a bit sluggish with KDE 3 I'm interested in 
upgrading to an Asus A7V333 motherboard with an XP 2000+ CPU. However, I'm 
not completely sure what the recommended power supply is.

The AMD site recommends many power supply brands but I couldn't find any 
information regarding the rating. Can someone help?

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Re: [expert] What to use to analyse Apache logs?

2002-08-20 Thread David Relson

At 05:40 PM 8/20/02, you wrote:
Hi guys,
the title pretty much says it all.
I want to look at total traffic and be able to analyse the logs for intrusion
attempts
any suggestions?
--

Have you looked at webalizer?  I believe it's pretty good for analyzing 
apache logs :-)  However, it may not be intrusion oriented :-(






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Re: [expert] Asus A7V333 power supply question

2002-08-20 Thread Jason Guidry

On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 19:15, Phil wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 Because my present system is a bit sluggish with KDE 3 I'm interested in 
 upgrading to an Asus A7V333 motherboard with an XP 2000+ CPU. However, I'm 
 not completely sure what the recommended power supply is.

Buy the highest watt PS from PC power and cooling you can afford.  300
should be fine, if you have a few drives in the machine, go 400.

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Re: [expert] devMAKEDEV packages

2002-08-20 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:18:16 +1200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, maybe this is a dumb question but here goes
 
 If one is running the dev filesystem is it possible to upgrade these
 
 RPM's without using the installer?? I am under the impression that dev
 
 gets loaded fairly early on and it becomes a real pain to upgrade
 these as a result.

More that /dev is mounted rather than that dev is loaded.
You can boot with devfs=nomount.

That being said there has been a change in the way dev/MAKEDEV install
and call since the B3 release which was done to allow for the upgrade of
these pkgs Even when /devs is mounted and devfsd is running.
Because of this upgrading from the old to the new can be problematic.
On 2 of my systems running current cooker the dev MAKEDEV upgrades
caused difficulties when rebooting requiring that 'rescue' mode be used
and I still had a hell of a time getting the systems back to where they
would boot even near normally.

My recommendation would be to add dev and MAKEDEV to your skip.list and
use the RC installer to upgrade then when it is released the end of this
week/first of next week.


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Re: [expert] What to use to analyse Apache logs?

2002-08-20 Thread J. Craig Woods

David Relson wrote:
 
 At 05:40 PM 8/20/02, you wrote:
 Hi guys,
 the title pretty much says it all.
 I want to look at total traffic and be able to analyse the logs for intrusion
 attempts
 any suggestions?
 --
 
 Have you looked at webalizer?  I believe it's pretty good for analyzing
 apache logs :-)  However, it may not be intrusion oriented :-(
 

I agree with the choice of webalizer. It is very easy to install, has a
very nice interface with apache, and mandrake delivers a rpm for your
convenience. Intrusion detection would necessitate another kind of
program altogether, i.e. NIDS. In this direction, I would suggest you
take a look at snort. A very nice program that will provide you with
numerous alerts for all http traffic to port 80.

drjung

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[expert] frequent HD access in LM8.2

2002-08-20 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I've noticed on my last few installs of Mandrake 8.2, that I get a tiny bit of hard 
disk access, once every 4 seconds or so.  I've looked in the logs, and I don't see
anything out of the ordinary, and there is nothing going on.  What would explain this?

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Re: [expert] Detecting an Active Network Interface

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Weaver

Randy Kramer wrote:
 daRcmaTTeR wrote:
 
What if you just did something like this.

1) ping ISP...
 a) if icmp echo request == 'yes'
then
do the mail thing
else
run ifup command kick mailque
   fi

what-cha think?
 
 
 daRcmaTTeR,
 
 Thanks very much -- it's a good start if not more!
 
 I guess I'll find out for sure soon ;-) , but is that if icmp echo
 request == 'yes' pretty close to the right syntax?  (I assume it's
 checking for success of the ping.)  Hmm, I looked up man icmp and man
 echo -- looks like I'll have to dig a little deeper or do an experiment
 or two.
 
 (Just for the record, I don't need (and can't use) the ifup command
 (effectively) as the dial up modem is on another box (running under
 dos).  The ping should kick the modem (except that, occasionally, the
 modem hangs up and locks up so it won't redial).  I'll probably
 arrange the script to ping, check for success, on success kick the
 mailqueue, on failure wait, then retry the ping.)
 
 So (thinking on paper), something like:
 
maxtries = 3 (??) 
count = 0
 start: ping ISP (with parameters to limit to say 4 pings instead of
 continuous)
count = count + 1
  if icmp echo request == 'yes'
 then
fetchmail 
sendmail -q
 else
if count = maxtries (wow, do I forget valid syntax ;-) )
   then
  wait 30 (??) (give the modem a chance to connect)
  goto start
   else
  issue Internet connection lost, could not restart
 message (somewhere)
fi
  fi
 
 I'll need to brush up on bash syntax and so forth, and if I'm clever I
 might get rid of the goto. 
 
 regards,
 Randy Kramer

Randy,

it is written: thou shalt NOT use a GOTO...ever! ;) The force fed us 
that in assembler and COBOL classes till I thought it was gonna come 
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[expert] lame server resolving

2002-08-20 Thread Jay

Hey, my syslog has a dozens of entries similar to the following

lame server resolving 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa' (in
'xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa'?): xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx#53

all with different IP's...

As far as I can tell, some client is asking my server for information on an IP
but my server doesn't have that information? Is that what lame server
resolving is?

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Re: [expert] Detecting an Active Network Interface

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Weaver

Randy Kramer wrote:
 kwan,
 
 Thanks!  I've got several choices now ;-)
 
 Randy Kramer
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Here's a script that I use to check connectivity:


  #!/bin/bash
  STATUS=`ping -c 2 -q 11.22.33.44 2/dev/null`
  CODE=$?

  if [ $CODE -gt 0 ]; then
 echo Link is down.
  else
 echo Link is up.
  fi


Replace the 11.22.33.44 with a host on the internet. I use the
nameserver of the ISP but you can use any reliable address.
This script segment is part of a larger one to reboot my DSL modem via
X10, but you can modify it for dialup. There are also other ways of
dialing on demand such as diald that may be more effective.

Randy,

The above was the accurate rendition of the correct syntax for the 
earlier suggestion.

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Re: [expert] Detecting an Active Network Interface

2002-08-20 Thread Todd Lyons

Mark Weaver wrote on Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 11:04:16PM -0400 :
 So (thinking on paper), something like:
snip
if count = maxtries (wow, do I forget valid syntax ;-) )
   then
  wait 30 (??) (give the modem a chance to connect)
  goto start
   else
  issue Internet connection lost, could not restart
 message (somewhere)
fi
snip
 I'll need to brush up on bash syntax and so forth, and if I'm clever I
 might get rid of the goto. 
 it is written: thou shalt NOT use a GOTO...ever! ;) The force fed us 
 that in assembler and COBOL classes till I thought it was gonna come 
 outa my ears.

[root@fiji /usr/src/linux/kernel]# grep goto.*\;$ * | wc -l
187

Comments? :)  Don't tell me Linus doesn't know anything about c now :)

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[expert] 9.0 beta 3 bug report

2002-08-20 Thread Lorne

Hey guys

I'm tired and maybe a little cranky. It has gotten pretty darned hard to give 
bug reports. Maybe I've lost the proper URL to get there, but I just got a 
denied when I tried. So maybe one of the folks doing development will read 
this. 

Just tried the Beta 3 on an old ALR 4 processor box. It is using 200mhz 
Pentium pro CPU's, with a Mylex raid controller. Locks up solid right after 
the graphic hit enter or F1 to continue. No idea what is happening since it 
is so early in the boot up. I've tried passing text and vgalo. Makes no 
difference. 8.2 is just fine, so this is a serious problem. 

Something serious has changed between this and the old version. Hopefully 
somone see this. I'm off to bed. 



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[Fwd: [expert] lame server resolving]

2002-08-20 Thread J. Craig Woods

oops, forgot about sending it to the list..

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---BeginMessage---

Jay wrote:
 
 Hey, my syslog has a dozens of entries similar to the following
 
 lame server resolving 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa' (in
 'xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa'?): xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx#53
 
 all with different IP's...
 
 As far as I can tell, some client is asking my server for information on an IP
 but my server doesn't have that information? Is that what lame server
 resolving is?
 
 Jay
 

Are you running a public dns server? What this message means is that
some other dns server is running on the internet, and it does not have
its namespace in an upstream dns server. This means that recursion is
not working for this lame server's in-addr.arpa zone (reverse lookup).
This is not your foul up, it is some other person's foul up, namely the
person that setup the lame dns server. They did not do it correctly. 

The reason for asking you if your dns server was public, and, therefore,
on the internet was because you need to have at least two other dns
servers that have your dns server's namespace in their RR's (resource
records). These two other dns servers will point back to your dns
server, and they will provide your dns server with recursive
functionality. Therefore, you will not be the lame server. I would
assume that the x's in your ip address example, from your log file, are
NOT your dns server's ip address, right? In this case, some other person
has screwed up their dns setup. You can not do much about these
messages, except to email the clown, and tell him/her to get their shit
together (you will do this to no avail. Take it from one who has tried a
time or two).

 --
 Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
 

Now I have seen some sick sigs in my time but this one is certainly one
of the sickest I have ever seen. You win, hands down, with this one. I
certainly hope it is attached to all your mail, especially your
important business correspondence. The world is in need of this kind of
sickness. Keep up the good work :-)

drjung

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Re: [expert] lame server resolving

2002-08-20 Thread Todd Lyons

Jay wrote on Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 04:53:23PM -0400 :
 
 lame server resolving 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa' (in
 'xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa'?): xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx#53
 As far as I can tell, some client is asking my server for information on an IP
 but my server doesn't have that information? Is that what lame server
 resolving is?

Some client equals YOUR machines.  And no, it's not your server that has
the problem, it's other people's servers.

Let's say that whois on domain mrball.net results in dns entries:
   DNS15.REGISTER.COM 216.21.234.78 
   DNS16.REGISTER.COM 209.67.50.246
   NIXBOX.NIXIT.CA24.101.148.92

If you query dns15 and dns16, you will get an answer for hostnames in
the mrball.net domain.  However, the proprietor of the third entry does
not have any real information about mrball.net.  (The real whois results
are just the first two).  When you try to ping/lynx/whatever to
www.mrball.net, you ask your nameserver for the IP address, it gets the
list of authoritative DNS servers, and then asks one of them.  If it
finds that one says I don't know anything about mrball.net even though
the above records indicate it _should_, then THAT is a lame server and
your dns server records it in your logs.

The problem is much more frequent with reverse lookups than it is with
forward lookups.

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Re: [expert] 9.0 beta 3 bug report

2002-08-20 Thread Todd Lyons

Lorne wrote on Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 09:12:57PM -0700 :
 Hey guys
 
 Pentium pro CPU's, with a Mylex raid controller. Locks up solid right after 
 the graphic hit enter or F1 to continue. No idea what is happening since it 
 Something serious has changed between this and the old version. Hopefully 
 somone see this. I'm off to bed. 

Try passing noacpi to the kernel.  Barring that, I'll see if I can come
up with a list of current kernel options that look promising.

H, PPro?  Probably don't have acpi on a mobo that old :(

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Re: [expert] lame server resolving

2002-08-20 Thread J. Craig Woods

Jay wrote:
 
 Hey, my syslog has a dozens of entries similar to the following
 
 lame server resolving 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa' (in
 'xxx.xxx.xxx.in-addr.arpa'?): xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx#53
 
 all with different IP's...
 
 As far as I can tell, some client is asking my server for information on an IP
 but my server doesn't have that information? Is that what lame server
 resolving is?
 
 Jay
 

Are you running a public dns server? What this message means is that
some other dns server is running on the internet, and it does not have
its namespace in an upstream dns server. This means that recursion is
not working for this lame server's in-addr.arpa zone (reverse lookup).
This is not your foul up, it is some other person's foul up, namely the
person that setup the lame dns server. They did not do it correctly. 

The reason for asking you if your dns server was public, and, therefore,
on the internet was because you need to have at least two other dns
servers that have your dns server's namespace in their RR's (resource
records). These two other dns servers will point back to your dns
server, and they will provide your dns server with recursive
functionality. Therefore, you will not be the lame server. I would
assume that the x's in your ip address example, from your log file, are
NOT your dns server's ip address, right? In this case, some other person
has screwed up their dns setup. You can not do much about these
messages, except to email the clown, and tell him/her to get their shit
together (you will do this to no avail. Take it from one who has tried a
time or two).

 --
 Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
 

Now I have seen some sick sigs in my time but this one is certainly one
of the sickest I have ever seen. You win, hands down, with this one. I
certainly hope it is attached to all your mail, especially your
important business correspondence. The world is in need of this kind of
sickness. Keep up the good work :-)

drjung

-- 
J. Craig Woods
UNIX/NT Network/System Administration
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Re: [expert] Detecting an Active Network Interface

2002-08-20 Thread J. Craig Woods

Todd Lyons wrote:
 
 Mark Weaver wrote on Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 11:04:16PM -0400 :
  So (thinking on paper), something like:
 snip
 if count = maxtries (wow, do I forget valid syntax ;-) )
then
   wait 30 (??) (give the modem a chance to connect)
   goto start
else
   issue Internet connection lost, could not restart
  message (somewhere)
 fi
 snip
  I'll need to brush up on bash syntax and so forth, and if I'm clever I
  might get rid of the goto.
  it is written: thou shalt NOT use a GOTO...ever! ;) The force fed us
  that in assembler and COBOL classes till I thought it was gonna come
  outa my ears.
 
 [root@fiji /usr/src/linux/kernel]# grep goto.*\;$ * | wc -l
 187
 
 Comments? :)  Don't tell me Linus doesn't know anything about c now :)
 

201 on my system...

Ya, and who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks, even Linus is
forever into change...

drjung

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[expert] MandrakeSecure: Making the most of OpenSSH

2002-08-20 Thread Vincent Danen

Sorry for the cross-post, but I know there were a few people looking
forward to this and I think they are on either of these lists.  My
paper on using, managing, and otherwise mucking around with OpenSSH is
now on the MandrakeSecure website.  Comments welcome, contributions
with other info that can be added to it very welcome in the notes
section of the paper.

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/openssh.php

I hope some of you find it helpful.  =)

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Re: [expert] devMAKEDEV packages

2002-08-20 Thread newslett

Sorry, you're absolutely right, mounted is correct, poor terminology on 
my part. Yup, was going to wait till the RC as you suggested unless 
there was an easy peasy way round it but alas there seems not to be. 
Thanks anyway.

Cheers,

Jason

Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:18:16 +1200
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Ok, maybe this is a dumb question but here goes

If one is running the dev filesystem is it possible to upgrade these

RPM's without using the installer?? I am under the impression that dev

gets loaded fairly early on and it becomes a real pain to upgrade
these as a result.
 
 
 More that /dev is mounted rather than that dev is loaded.
 You can boot with devfs=nomount.
 
 That being said there has been a change in the way dev/MAKEDEV install
 and call since the B3 release which was done to allow for the upgrade of
 these pkgs Even when /devs is mounted and devfsd is running.
 Because of this upgrading from the old to the new can be problematic.
 On 2 of my systems running current cooker the dev MAKEDEV upgrades
 caused difficulties when rebooting requiring that 'rescue' mode be used
 and I still had a hell of a time getting the systems back to where they
 would boot even near normally.
 
 My recommendation would be to add dev and MAKEDEV to your skip.list and
 use the RC installer to upgrade then when it is released the end of this
 week/first of next week.
 
 
 Charles
 
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