Re: [expert] modules

2003-01-30 Thread kwan
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Jorris Graad wrote:

 Can someone tell me how to compile and install modules. Please explain
 it step by step because I'm not an expert at this things.

This depends somewhat on how you acquired the module. If you have some
module sources you can usually do something like this:

gcc  -fno-pic -mno-abicalls -Wall -I/usr/src/linux/include -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ 
-DLINUX -c module.c

This will create a module.o file that you can insmod/modprobe.

Some modules are shipped as patches against kernel sources. In this case
you'd need to make sure that you have the kernel sources installed then
do something like:

  cd /path/to/linux/
  patch  patchfile.patch
 
then rebuild your kernel :)  Seriously, let me know what form your
module sources are in and I can give better instructions.


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Re: [expert] pocket pc

2003-01-30 Thread James Beam
Sorry, cant't help right now. My linux box is
completely crashed, and my wife had a nice child two
weeks ago, so my crowded schedule is absolutely
collapsed. No time to test, no time even to power on
the box (except at work...)

JimBeam
--- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 just curious... I wonder if active sync would load
 under wine?
 
 James
 
 
 On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 01:09, James Beam wrote:
  I got the very same problem. At sourceforge.net
 you
  can find a project named gcesinc. It's for gnome,
 but
  I've had no time to test it, so I don't know if
 it's
  working. Tell me if it works.
  
  Some time ago I downloaded another project, but I
  couldn't compile it, so it never worked (I can't
  remember the name, but I'll give to you later if
 you
  want).
  
  Good luck
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   i would like to know where i can get
 comunications
   software for my ipaq pocket 
   pc under windows it uses microsoft active sync
 and
   sycronises with microsoft 
   outlook. if u know of any where i can try
 looking
   for some software i can use 
   to get it to sync with linux i would be very
 happy
   because i am a very happy 
   linux user but i nead to be able to work with my
   pocket pc.
   
   yours sencirly
   
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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 14:17, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 13:39 -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:11 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  
   Totally different situation. The American president and the congress
   did not want to go to war against Germany because a lot of large US
   companies were tied up with Germany (mostly with the IG Farben
   conglomerate). The Jewish emigrants from Germany brought hard evidence
   about the Nazis. Still the Congress voted not to start war. Only the
   Jewish community forced the president eventually to decide to enter
   the war. So much about history.
  
  Whoah...I'm a little confused here. Aren't you mixing up World Wars? I thought 
  we dragged our heels (a little) in WW1 but we joined WW2 after a cowardly 
  attack by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor - and we were already assisting the 
  Allies in many ways before Pearl Harbor. You'll never make me believe that 
  this country did not want to enter WW2 after Pearl Harbor!!!
 
 In case you don't know it yet: Pearl Harbour was attacked by the
 Japaneze. They are the slightly smaller men with (mostly) slanted eyes
 and live on some islands across the Pacific Ocean to the West of you.

Looks like you need to learn to read as well as learn some history;
namely, that your Germany and the Japanese were allies;  part of the
Axis.

 Germans are the average caucasian types living in the middle of
 Europe, that is East of you across the Atlantic ocean.
 
 WWII was  - concerning USA - a double war, one to the West with the
 Japanese and one in the east against Germany.

You want it to sound like these powers were not part of the same set of
allies; but they were.  It was not a double war, it was a single war on
two fronts.

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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread Mark
Hello There,

OpenSSH does do what you want via using a package called scponly
I have been using this package for some time.. it's excellent..

Have a look at http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/

Cheers
Mark

On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 06:24, J.P. Pasnak wrote:
 
 I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user use
 sftp, but not allow them to 'walk' the rest of the system.
 
 I've tried _numerous_ different variations (created a chrooted user, using
 rbash or sftp-server as a shell, etc), and none of them seemed to work.  I
 seem to be going in circles now, so if anyone has any insight, it would be
 appreciated.
 
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RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:47, John Hart wrote:
 Keep talking sonny.  Oh, that is until the terrorists come and bomb your
 insignificant little cities like Aarhus, Copenhagen ...etc.  Then, just
 maybe THAT will change your mind.

Amen.  Let's not leave out the possibility of nuclear fallout from
another nearby area having been nuked, shall we?

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 Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:50 PM
 To: Experts
 Subject: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
 
 
 Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a
 future for MandrakeSoft.
 After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and

snip insignificance

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ron Stodden
Franki wrote:


Also, I am not a yank, I'm Australian, but IF the US are telling the truth..
then hell yes, we should overthrow saddam.. and for once we should do it
BEFORE a tragedy occurs, not after..


To act like that patently violates the UN charter which expressly 
prohibits that kind of megalomaniacal action - Iraq, USA, Australia all 
signed up to abide by the UN Charter.   Thou shalt not aggress another 
sovereigh nation.  Never!   Not even if provoked (which Iraq has not done.

Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was because Kuwait was slant drilling under 
the border to illegally extract Iraqian oil and refused to desist.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread et

 You want it to sound like these powers were not part of the same set of
 allies; but they were.  It was not a double war, it was a single war on
 two fronts.
 LX

 ehh,,, they sure did not surrender together.


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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread J.P. Pasnak
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On January 30, 2003 06:25 am, Mark wrote:
 Hello There,

 OpenSSH does do what you want via using a package called scponly
 I have been using this package for some time.. it's excellent..

 Have a look at http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/

 Cheers
 Mark

 On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 06:24, J.P. Pasnak wrote:
  I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user
  use sftp, but not allow them to 'walk' the rest of the system.

Sweet.   Thanks alot.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread JM5379
neither did Italy, yet they - along with a few lesser nations -
were part of a well known and globally acknowledged partnership
known as the Axis, while the opposing nations were collectively
known as the Allies.  it was a single global war comprised of
numerous nations on both sides (both, as in 2 sides), fought on
numerous fronts simultaneously - Europe, Asia, Pacific islands,
Africa, Pacific and Atlantic Oceans.

and now that this thread has been abused, bastardized and mauled
beyond recognition more than once, let it die completely or take
it private... PLEASE.  by my very haphazard count, there have
been somewhere close to 100 posts on this thread alone - far too
many for a subject so blatantly OT as this was initially, and has
continued to mutate into.


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Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?


 You want it to sound like these powers were not part of the
same set of
 allies; but they were.  It was not a double war, it was a
single war on
 two fronts.
 LX

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Dallam Wych
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 12:24:20AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was because Kuwait was slant drilling under
 the border to illegally extract Iraqian oil and refused to desist.
I thought this thread was declared dead? But I do want to thank you
for informing me as to why Kuwait was invaded, all of this time I
was under the impression the Iraq invaded because they believe that
once Kuwait was part of their territory. Thanks for clearing things
up.
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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ron Stodden
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:


I don't take kindly to my president being called a madman.  

But it is plainly quite true - he is quite certifiably insane.He is 
the grandson of a traitor, Prescott Bush, who was aiding and abetting 
the Nazis though WWII until he was arrested and imprisoned.The sins 
of the father are visited upon the son, even over two generations. 
Even an elementary psychological awareness immediately recognises his 
multiple false projections. First, instead of owning it, he projects 
his own devils on to Osama bin Laden, now on to Saddam Hussien.When 
he describes Hussein he is describing himself and his own contemplated 
actions.   This kind of projection is very common (and a serious sin 
against God), just very bad in his case.He has virtually no 
personality or character - his observers immediately sense this and 
project their own goodness on to him in the attempt to fill the 
psychological void (nature abhors a vacuum), but healing does not happen 
- it should be obvious why (there is falseness all around).

The psychological effect of such behaviour on healthy observers is to 
induce the unconscious desire to heal (this is God at work).   This 
strong attraction is sensed as charisma - always the result of mental 
sickness, serious character faults, in the observed.   Shakespeare wrote 
most of his plays about this fascinating subject.

So that in a few words is the simple explanation of what is going on. 
What is needed is better knowledge of one's internal psychological 
processes, so they are not disowned and therefore projected out on the 
external world.   When that happens, the world reflects it back in kind, 
and it hurts. Beware of yourself, George W Bush!   You yourself are 
the enemy your speechwriter describe so fluently.   Bush himself is not 
fluent - note the constant applause interruptions in his State of the 
Union speech.   No developed ideas at all - it takes peace and time to 
express them - result is more plans-void from Bush.

Especially
when he is fighting a *real* madman that has slaughtered over 230,000
innocent kurds with mustard gas; plus done God knows what else to his
own people; President Bush was descriptive of some of those things. 
You've got the wrong f*cking madman, pal.  If he's a madman then
everybody else in the room was also, cause he got well over 9 standing
ovations that I could count.  He also has had the highest approval
rating of any president in US history.  He also has my undivided
attention and support.  So maybe the majority of Americans are madmen
then?  Or more likely there is something seriously wrong with the German
side of the equation.  Ah, yeah, given history, I'd say definitely so.

It pisses me off when other countries that have no ethics or balls to do
the right thing in defense of innocents criticize my country and my
president.  Germany's histories regarding innocent life are not exactly
something to brag about; however I'm not posting rants regarding Hitler
and the Holocaust and 6 million Jews that were murdered.  Oh yeah, and
the fact that the US was one of the primary forces that put a stop to
it.  Madmen, eh?  yeah, I can certainly talk about some madmen; like the
ones that murder Jews.  However I'm starting to understand why the
Mandrake lists should minimize political talk; because I am extremely
pissed right now.  I suggest that this conversation go elsewhere; like
maybe to my personal inbox, where I will be more than glad to finish
this dance.

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Re: [expert] packet forwarding unstable

2003-01-30 Thread Daniel Anderson
Hi,
   I've had similar problems, and running sdhorewall, so I don't think it's 
the firewall software. Only some packets seemed to be dropped, some sites 
just would not load. This was a temporary setup before I installed MNF on a 
separate box, so I didn't pursue a solution.
Dan


On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:50 pm, Bryce Conner wrote:
 I'm using a crossover cable to test Mandrake 9.0 as a packet forwarding
 host, connected to a cable modem.  Eventually I plan to run more computers
 through it, but I can't seem to solve a problem I'm having with forwarding.

 It seems that Mandrake starts to drop packets from eth0 to eth1, and
 everything seems to be set up correctly.  Everything works fine at boot.  I
 know it's a problem with my setup but I'm not sure where to start.  All I
 know is if I do 'echo 1  /proc/sys/ipv4/ip_forward' (or whatever it is) it
 restarts the forwarding.   At least once every 24 hours it starts dropping
 packets and won't restart until I manually restart it.  I am using dhcpd to
 serve the ip address to the Windows XP Client.

 Other than using chron to automatically issue the echo command every hour
 or so (that wouldn't hurt anything would it?), is there something I can do
 to track this down and solve it?

 I've looked in /var/log/kernel and there are no related errors at about the
 time my packet forwarding went down the last time.  Snort was running at
 the time, but that shouldn't cause any problems, and I think the problem
 has occurred without it running.

 I ran Bastille, which set up the bastille firewall (is it called prelude?).
 I noticed that it isn't supported yet (or at least it wasn't) in Mandrake
 9.0 but I found a website that has an easy fix so it will at least run the
 main program correctly.  Do you think Bastille would cause this kind of
 instability?

 Do you think getting the newest kernel from the cooker would fix it and not
 break too many things?  How many dependency issues will I have with a newer
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[expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
Hi All,

Forgive me if there's a better place to ask this question, but does
anyone know when and where we might find Mandrake 9.0 RPMs for kde3.1?

On another tack, I note that these RPMs are already available for
cooker.  Presumably many of you are using cooker, how reliable do you
find it?

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[expert] Annonying Reverse Video

2003-01-30 Thread Tru64 User
Mandy9.0/8.0
How does one get rid of the annonying reverse video,
like one u get (using xterm)when u use man, more etc.?

Suddenly all screen is white, and characters are
black. Temporal solution i have lived with for a while
is entering vi, then existing. This clears it, but it
comes up again when any of the above commands are
used.

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RE: [expert] packet forwarding unstable

2003-01-30 Thread Franki
I am using mdk9 for port forwarding and it has been completely flawless..

but i used gShield as the firewall and just tell it what ports to forward to
where..

its very easy...

rgds

Franki

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] packet forwarding unstable


Hi,
   I've had similar problems, and running sdhorewall, so I don't think it's
the firewall software. Only some packets seemed to be dropped, some sites
just would not load. This was a temporary setup before I installed MNF on a
separate box, so I didn't pursue a solution.
Dan


On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:50 pm, Bryce Conner wrote:
 I'm using a crossover cable to test Mandrake 9.0 as a packet forwarding
 host, connected to a cable modem.  Eventually I plan to run more computers
 through it, but I can't seem to solve a problem I'm having with
forwarding.

 It seems that Mandrake starts to drop packets from eth0 to eth1, and
 everything seems to be set up correctly.  Everything works fine at boot.
I
 know it's a problem with my setup but I'm not sure where to start.  All I
 know is if I do 'echo 1  /proc/sys/ipv4/ip_forward' (or whatever it is)
it
 restarts the forwarding.   At least once every 24 hours it starts dropping
 packets and won't restart until I manually restart it.  I am using dhcpd
to
 serve the ip address to the Windows XP Client.

 Other than using chron to automatically issue the echo command every hour
 or so (that wouldn't hurt anything would it?), is there something I can do
 to track this down and solve it?

 I've looked in /var/log/kernel and there are no related errors at about
the
 time my packet forwarding went down the last time.  Snort was running at
 the time, but that shouldn't cause any problems, and I think the problem
 has occurred without it running.

 I ran Bastille, which set up the bastille firewall (is it called
prelude?).
 I noticed that it isn't supported yet (or at least it wasn't) in Mandrake
 9.0 but I found a website that has an easy fix so it will at least run the
 main program correctly.  Do you think Bastille would cause this kind of
 instability?

 Do you think getting the newest kernel from the cooker would fix it and
not
 break too many things?  How many dependency issues will I have with a
newer
 kernel?

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Re: [expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Seppo Järvinen
On 30 Jan 2003, Mick Szucs wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 Forgive me if there's a better place to ask this question, but does
 anyone know when and where we might find Mandrake 9.0 RPMs for kde3.1?
 
 On another tack, I note that these RPMs are already available for
 cooker.  Presumably many of you are using cooker, how reliable do you
 find it?
 
 Thanks,
 

To the same line... When Gnome 2.2 final is out, do we get MDK 9.0 rpms 
for it (I know that it's already in cooker, but installing it fails 
because too many dependencies conflicting (most glibc based))

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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread J.P. Pasnak

J.P. Pasnak said:

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 On January 30, 2003 06:25 am, Mark wrote:
 Hello There,

 OpenSSH does do what you want via using a package called scponly
 I have been using this package for some time.. it's excellent..

 Have a look at http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/

 Cheers
 Mark

 On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 06:24, J.P. Pasnak wrote:
  I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user
  use sftp, but not allow them to 'walk' the rest of the system.

 Sweet.   Thanks alot.

OK, scponly works as advertised, but it still doesn't work when attempting
to 'chroot' the user to a single directory.   I believe that this may be a
pam problem.

Can you provide any tips on how you set it up, or point me at some
documentation?

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Re: [expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Sascha Noyes
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On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:47 am, Mick Szucs wrote:
 Hi All,

 Forgive me if there's a better place to ask this question, but does
 anyone know when and where we might find Mandrake 9.0 RPMs for kde3.1?

 On another tack, I note that these RPMs are already available for
 cooker.  Presumably many of you are using cooker, how reliable do you
 find it?

 Thanks,

To all those that are lusting after kde 3.1 on 9.0, word has it (from deno on 
mandrakeclub.com) that Laurent Montel (Mandrakes resident kde guy) is busy 
building 9.0 packages but is still ironing out some bugs.

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Re: [expert] syncing Palm m515 with J-Pilot

2003-01-30 Thread David Robertson
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:16, Russell W. Behne wrote:

 Um, let's see...
   # rpm -q evolution
   evolution-1.0.2-5mdk
   # rpm -q evolution-pilot
   package evolution-pilot is not installed
 
 Well, I'll play with evolution since it's installed, but I'll have to
 download an rpm for evolution-pilot, since my CD-ROM is down: (YAFP!)  
 That happened when I switched to a writable CD-ROM and ignorantly tried
 to follow the howtos, which bessed everything up so bad that I can't get
 that working now either. (Sigh!) I'll have to find the URL where I can
 download the RPM for the evolution-pilot that goes with
 evolution-1.0.2-5mdk.

Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php and set up some sources
for urpmi. If you select the ones you want, it will give you some text
that you can paste into a terminal and run (as root). The sources will
be added to your software manger. Then, if you run urpmi
evolution-pilot in a terminal (as root, no quotes), it will download
and install it for you. Then give the pilot setup a go and let us know
how you get on.

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Re: [expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 11:02, Sascha Noyes wrote:
 To all those that are lusting after kde 3.1 on 9.0, word has it (from deno on 
 mandrakeclub.com) that Laurent Montel (Mandrakes resident kde guy) is busy 
 building 9.0 packages but is still ironing out some bugs.

That's excellent, thank you.  Exactly the type of insight I was hoping
to find here.  I'll just command what little patience I have, then...

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Re: [expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Goshko
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 09:02, Sascha Noyes wrote:
 To all those that are lusting after kde 3.1 on 9.0, word has it (from deno on 
 mandrakeclub.com) that Laurent Montel (Mandrakes resident kde guy) is busy 
 building 9.0 packages but is still ironing out some bugs.

...and if you are a MandrakeClub member guilt mode=onyou are, aren't
you/guilt, you can get the KDE 3.1pre5 packages for 9.0.

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Re: [expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Roger Munoz
You could try texstars rpms 
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/contrib/texstar/apt/Mandrake/RPMS.texstar 
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/contrib/texstar/apt/Mandrake/RPMS.texstar/ 
if you cant wait for the MDK rpms.

Roger



Mick Szucs wrote:

Hi All,

Forgive me if there's a better place to ask this question, but does
anyone know when and where we might find Mandrake 9.0 RPMs for kde3.1?

On another tack, I note that these RPMs are already available for
cooker.  Presumably many of you are using cooker, how reliable do you
find it?

Thanks,
 



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RE: [expert] Highpoint HTP372 not detected under Mdk9.0

2003-01-30 Thread Mark Stewart
Thanks for the tip, Rolf. I'll give it a try. 

::mark

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rolf Pedersen
 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Highpoint HTP372 not detected under Mdk9.0
 
 
 Mark Stewart wrote:
  So I'm a bit disappointed. I finally installed 9.0 on my 
 monster box (nforce
  board, athlon 2000) expecting that, as reported by various 
 mandrake users,
  that the Highpoint HPT 372 controller would be detected and I 
 could use it
  as an extra IDE controller. Alas, HardDrake doesn't appear to 
 have a clue
  that it's there.
  
  Anyone know if there's something I can do that gives it a nudge 
 in the right
  direction?
  
  cheers,
  ::mark
  
 
 Alan Cox's ide patches have just now been added to the cooker kernel. 
 They provide support for this controller and I am using this kernel with 
 2 drives on my Iwill XP333-R as jbod on that onboard controller.  You 
 could also build a kernel and the opensource driver from Highpoint's 
 website.  I have done that, as well, but it is not really an open source 
 driver as building the driver requires a binary library and using the 
 newer kernel is just simpler.  Hopefully, those patches will be kept. 
 Currently, the kernel is 2.4.21pre3-3mdk.
 
 
 


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Re: [expert] syncing Palm m515 with J-Pilot

2003-01-30 Thread Jack Coates
Please don't set Reply-To on a mailing list message, the point of a
mailing list is to produce an archive of searchable answers. That
doesn't happen when replies go back to you alone.

On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 08:16, Russell W. Behne wrote:
 Yesterday at 22:31, David Robertson wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 10:15 pm, Russell W. Behne wrote:
   I hope the above only means that pilot-link wasn't running. I really
   don't know. What does it mean? What to do?
  The visor module needs to be loaded but can't be. What kernel are you 
  running because in a default mandrake kernel the module should be available. 
  Have you recompiled your kernel and not selected that ?
 
 Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586
 Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk on an i686
 
 It's the stock kernel. Although I used to always recompile the kernel in 
 the past, I no longer see any reason to do so since default kernels 
 usually have all modules available. So if a module isn't loading there 
 must be some other reason for it. What should I do next?

er, how about modprobe visor and see what it's complaining about?

 
   # rpm -q pilot-link
   pilot-link-0.9.5-8mdk
  So pilot-link is installed already - you don't need to install the tarball.
 
 Ok, I was under the impression that I probably needed to upgrade it, but
 didn't find an rpm. The fact that tarballs won't compile is a YAFP, (Yet
 Another Frustrating Problem, although the `F' can stand for something
 else.) Whatever the case, I'll not bother with upgrading at this time 
 since pilot-link-0.9.5-8mdk is installed.

Go back and read my clie page again, that pilot-link version will not
work with a USB handheld. Granted, I didn't specify version numbers, but
I did tell you that the version distributed with MDK 8.2 won't work.
I've just updated the page to specify that you need version 0.11.x.

 
  Do you have Evolution installed - it is pretty good at setting up a Palm 
  device if you just follow thru the instructions under tools/pilot-settings?
  (You will also need to have evolution-pilot installed.)
  If that was successful, you would probably just find that JPilot works fine. 
 
 Um, let's see...
   # rpm -q evolution
   evolution-1.0.2-5mdk
   # rpm -q evolution-pilot
   package evolution-pilot is not installed
 
 Well, I'll play with evolution since it's installed, but I'll have to
 download an rpm for evolution-pilot, since my CD-ROM is down: (YAFP!)  
 That happened when I switched to a writable CD-ROM and ignorantly tried
 to follow the howtos, which bessed everything up so bad that I can't get
 that working now either. (Sigh!) I'll have to find the URL where I can
 download the RPM for the evolution-pilot that goes with
 evolution-1.0.2-5mdk.

Do yourself a favor and get pilot-link working before messing with
Evolution.

Do youself another favor and just use J-Pilot; I've given up on
Evolution-pilot as it is incapable of synchronizing. All it can reliably
do is copy from one location to another, which will produce duplicate
records. When it tries to synchronize, it will get confused and delete
records that shouldn't be deleted. Haven't tried with 1.2 yet, but my
read of their development list archives doesn't inspire confidence that
PDA work is very high on their list of priorities.
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RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Jane
Title: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?






Ron,

Where did you study psychology?

Your opinion of the Even an elementary psychological awareness immediately recognizes his 

multiple false projections. First, instead of owning it, he projects his own devils on to Osama bin Laden, now on to Saddam Hussien. make it seem as you are the one who needs to go to the nut house. Fact is Osama bin Laden killed over 3 thousand innocent people - is that God's healing power?

I give up - I am going to make all Mandrake e-mails as read and forget this list for a while.





-Original Message-

From: Ron Stodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:06 AM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?



Lyvim Xaphir wrote:


 I don't take kindly to my president being called a madman. 


But it is plainly quite true - he is quite certifiably insane. He is 

the grandson of a traitor, Prescott Bush, who was aiding and abetting 

the Nazis though WWII until he was arrested and imprisoned. The sins 

of the father are visited upon the son, even over two generations. 

Even an elementary psychological awareness immediately recognises his 

multiple false projections. First, instead of owning it, he projects 

his own devils on to Osama bin Laden, now on to Saddam Hussien. When 

he describes Hussein he is describing himself and his own contemplated 

actions. This kind of projection is very common (and a serious sin 

against God), just very bad in his case. He has virtually no 

personality or character - his observers immediately sense this and 

project their own goodness on to him in the attempt to fill the 

psychological void (nature abhors a vacuum), but healing does not happen 

- it should be obvious why (there is falseness all around).


The psychological effect of such behaviour on healthy observers is to 

induce the unconscious desire to heal (this is God at work). This 

strong attraction is sensed as charisma - always the result of mental 

sickness, serious character faults, in the observed. Shakespeare wrote 

most of his plays about this fascinating subject.


So that in a few words is the simple explanation of what is going on. 

What is needed is better knowledge of one's internal psychological 

processes, so they are not disowned and therefore projected out on the 

external world. When that happens, the world reflects it back in kind, 

and it hurts. Beware of yourself, George W Bush! You yourself are 

the enemy your speechwriter describe so fluently. Bush himself is not 

fluent - note the constant applause interruptions in his State of the 

Union speech. No developed ideas at all - it takes peace and time to 

express them - result is more plans-void from Bush.


Especially

 when he is fighting a *real* madman that has slaughtered over 230,000

 innocent kurds with mustard gas; plus done God knows what else to his

 own people; President Bush was descriptive of some of those things. 

 You've got the wrong f*cking madman, pal. If he's a madman then

 everybody else in the room was also, cause he got well over 9 standing

 ovations that I could count. He also has had the highest approval

 rating of any president in US history. He also has my undivided

 attention and support. So maybe the majority of Americans are madmen

 then? Or more likely there is something seriously wrong with the German

 side of the equation. Ah, yeah, given history, I'd say definitely so.

 

 It pisses me off when other countries that have no ethics or balls to do

 the right thing in defense of innocents criticize my country and my

 president. Germany's histories regarding innocent life are not exactly

 something to brag about; however I'm not posting rants regarding Hitler

 and the Holocaust and 6 million Jews that were murdered. Oh yeah, and

 the fact that the US was one of the primary forces that put a stop to

 it. Madmen, eh? yeah, I can certainly talk about some madmen; like the

 ones that murder Jews. However I'm starting to understand why the

 Mandrake lists should minimize political talk; because I am extremely

 pissed right now. I suggest that this conversation go elsewhere; like

 maybe to my personal inbox, where I will be more than glad to finish

 this dance.

 

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Re: [expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Stefano Pogliani




Does KDE 3.1 introduce significant improvements ?

/Stefano

On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:34, Mick Szucs wrote:

On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 11:02, Sascha Noyes wrote:
 To all those that are lusting after kde 3.1 on 9.0, word has it (from deno on 
 mandrakeclub.com) that Laurent Montel (Mandrakes resident kde guy) is busy 
 building 9.0 packages but is still ironing out some bugs.

That's excellent, thank you.  Exactly the type of insight I was hoping
to find here.  I'll just command what little patience I have, then...

Regards,





Re: [expert] KDE 3.1 ... and cooker viability ..

2003-01-30 Thread Robert Goshko
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 12:26, Stefano Pogliani wrote:
 Does KDE 3.1 introduce significant improvements ?

Better integration of anti-aliasing (AA) fonts, tabbed browsing in
Konqueror, Scalable Vector Graphics, and more.

See http://promo.kde.org/3.1/feature_guide.php for more information.

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Re: [expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 13:14, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 Has anyone successfully managed to compile any of the new KDE packages. 
 (the 3.1 final release) there aren't any rpm's yet for Mandrake so I 
 started to compile the src packages. I've gotten arts to compile and 
 install, but beyond that everything else is producing errors and won't 
 compile.  :(

I had some luck with the konstruct package.  Ran into some problems
compiling k3b and pixelmagic, but ended up with what appeared to be a
mostly usable kde 3.1.  Seemed to be missing some things though (the
first I noticed was the absence of Kmail.)  Mandrake 9.0.

Now, I'm just waiting on the 3.1 rpms that will hopefully be out any
time now.
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RE: [expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs

2003-01-30 Thread Boulytchev, Vasiliy
So, when do you guys think MD9.1 will be out?  I have tried compiling qt3.1.1 and got 
errors on install, so I quit :(   Im not much of a GUI person anyways..although I 
saw a theme i really wanted for KDE3.1

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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs


On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 13:14, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 Has anyone successfully managed to compile any of the new KDE packages. 
 (the 3.1 final release) there aren't any rpm's yet for Mandrake so I 
 started to compile the src packages. I've gotten arts to compile and 
 install, but beyond that everything else is producing errors and won't 
 compile.  :(

I had some luck with the konstruct package.  Ran into some problems
compiling k3b and pixelmagic, but ended up with what appeared to be a
mostly usable kde 3.1.  Seemed to be missing some things though (the
first I noticed was the absence of Kmail.)  Mandrake 9.0.

Now, I'm just waiting on the 3.1 rpms that will hopefully be out any
time now.
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Re: [expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs

2003-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:22:09 -0700
Boulytchev, Vasiliy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, when do you guys think MD9.1 will be out?   

Not before April


Charles


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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread Todd Lyons
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Franki wrote on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:51:50PM +0800 :
 So would I... I had to give out two logins recently, and would have loved to
 be able to lock them in their directory..
 I was hoping Todd would respond with some wisdom on this one.. :-)

Due to the way that the privelege seperation in ssh works, I don't know
that it's possible.  I realize that _anything_ is possible if you put
enough work into it, but it's going to consume a lot of space.  You
might as well chroot the whole distro.

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs

2003-01-30 Thread Jason Greenwood




I believe the "official" release date is sometime around
AprilMandrake??

Cheers

J

Mark Weaver wrote:
Boulytchev,
Vasiliy wrote: 
 So, when do you guys think MD9.1 will be out? I have tried
compiling 
 qt3.1.1 and got errors on install, so I quit :( Im not much of a 
 GUI person anyways..although I saw a theme i really wanted for 
 KDE3.1 
 
  
don't know, but I'm hoping soon cause some things about 9.0 are driving
me nuts. nothing serious...just some pet peeves I have with nfs on 9.0. 
  
  

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
With all the Anit-American inflamitory comments that have been generated 
on this thread, I couldn't help but to break down, and add my piece to this.

This is an article from London's Daily Mirror
 Surprise! Surprise! When one of the world's most liberal left wing
newspapers writes a great article like this, there is hope for everyone. 
A thoughtfully written piece in one of the most left wing newspapers in 
the UK.
 Just a word of background for those of you who aren't familiar with 
the UK's Daily Mirror. This is one of the most notorious Left wing, 
anti-American dailies in the UK. Hard to believe that the Daily Mirror 
actually published it, but it did.

NOTE: I didn't write it, and I'm not Brittish. But it does get to the 
point...

This will be my one, and only contribution to this thread.




 Begin article:


  ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- 
the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the 
pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol 
Pot's Mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked 
like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps. An unspeakable act so 
cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world 
could agree on one thing --nobody  deserves this fate.

 Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the
perpetrators truly evil. But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is 
increasingly seen as America's comeuppance [deserved reprimand or 
punishment].

 Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year. There 
has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country -- too 
loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than 
Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to 
me. More than that, it turns my stomach. America is this country's 
greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by 
culture, language and blood.

  A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans 
died for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? 
And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - 
not just Americans, but from dozens of countries -- were butchered by a 
small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?

 What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on 
the planes was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, 
somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives. And 
children. Some  unborn. And these people brought it on themselves? And 
their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?

 These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The 
anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame 
the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives 
suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can 
do what it likes without having to ask permission.

The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since 
September 11. Remember, remember! Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of 
weeping men phoning their wives to say, I love you, before they were
 burned alive. Remember those people leaping o their deaths from the 
top of burning skyscrapers. Remember the hundreds of firemen buried 
alive. Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was 
on one of the planes with her mum. Remember, remember -- and realize 
that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it 
could have.

 So, a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked up without a trial in Camp 
X-ray? Pass the Kleenex. So, some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up 
after they merrily fired their semiautomatics in a sky full of American 
planes? A  shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti. 
AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot. 
That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being 
raised against attacking Iraq
-
that's what a democracy is for. How many in the Islamic world will have 
a minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many 
Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 
was an abomination?

 When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving 
Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that -- 
and didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is 
the most powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 
9/11 did not provoke all-out war. Not a war on terrorism. A real war. 
The fundamentalist dudes are talking about opening the gates of hell 
if America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of 
hell like you wouldn't believe. The US is the most militarily powerful 
nation that ever 

Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread J.P. Pasnak

Todd Lyons said:

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 Franki wrote on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:51:50PM +0800 :
 So would I... I had to give out two logins recently, and would have
 loved to
 be able to lock them in their directory..
 I was hoping Todd would respond with some wisdom on this one.. :-)

 Due to the way that the privelege seperation in ssh works, I don't know
 that it's possible.  I realize that _anything_ is possible if you put
 enough work into it, but it's going to consume a lot of space.  You
 might as well chroot the whole distro.

So you're saying my latest endevour, trying to get pam_chroot.so to work
are fruitless?


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You're sucking up my bandwidth.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
Ladies and gentlemen (you too, Bornath) before I get started here I'd
like to introduce Dr Khidhir Hamza, a defector nuclear scientist from
Iraq currently residing in the United States. 

 http://www.benadorassociates.com/hamza.php

I note that there has been a considerable lessening of traffic on this
thread since last night, a testament to the maturity of the peeps here,
even if we all do get passionate at times.  To ease the minds of all
concerned, I will follow the traffic lessening trend after this, as long
as it continues to be the trend.

On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 02:11, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 00:44 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 22:49, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
   Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a
   future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will 
   be a future for us all and the world as we know it.
   I listened to the US-Amercan president.  I'm not religious, I wish 
   I were. This madman and the options he has scare me to death.
   
   wobo
  
  I don't take kindly to my president being called a madman.  Especially
  when he is fighting a *real* madman that has slaughtered over 230,000
  innocent kurds with mustard gas; plus done God knows what else to his
  own people; President Bush was descriptive of some of those things. 
  You've got the wrong f*cking madman, pal.  If he's a madman then
  everybody else in the room was also, cause he got well over 9 standing
  ovations that I could count.  He also has had the highest approval
  rating of any president in US history.  He also has my undivided
  attention and support.  So maybe the majority of Americans are madmen
  then?  
 
 You just described Hitler and the German people in 1939.
 You just described Goebbels in the Berlin Sportpalast with 100,000
 excited Germans shouting War!
 If war is forced upon us we will fight. Mr. Bush used those words.
 Hitler used those words when he told the German people that Polland
 has attacked! Hear the speeches of 1939 and of 2003 and compare the
 phrases. And don't try to tell me anything about the German history.

Your arrogance is astounding.  You spout your own versions of American
history to us (obviously flawed), and then forbid us from saying
anything about yours?  This is the same kind of arrogance that got
germans into WW2, and sealed the fate of the Jews.

 I don't want to take Hussein's side. 

Of course you do; you already have.  Same mistake you guys made in WW2;
aligning yourselves on the bad side of right and wrong.  To be as
technically competent a people as you all seem to be, you sure do seem
keen on making mighty stupid ethical choices.  Maybe if you were a
little more along the lines of In God We Trust, you might not be
assuming such indefensible positions and losing all the time.

 Surely he is a madman. But Mr.
 Bush is trying to convince the world to go to a war with unknown
 consequences to the whole world and he does so without any proper
 reason so far.

Hans Blix disagrees with you, Dr Khidhir Hamza disagrees with you, and
oh yeah by the way your own German intelligence forces disagree with you
as well.

http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/1

Excerpt(s) from above URL:::

German intelligence estimates that Iraq will produce three atomic
weapons by 2005. Reports of terrorists trying to get their hands on
crop-dusters also point to Iraq. Even before Desert Storm, Hussein's
scientists had modified crop-dusters for spraying biowarfare agents.
They also had fitted a fighter plane with a spray tank.

Iraq's germ warfare program was perfected during its war with Iran in
the 1980s. Little known outside scientific circles is the fact that
Hussein even experimented on humans, starting around 1985 with anthrax.
Cholera was developed as a weapon as well and employed in experiments on
villagers in the Kurdish north. Iraq's germ warfare equipment and stocks
were supposedly destroyed under the direction of U.N. inspectors after
Desert Storm. But Hussein managed to hide quite a bit of it, as well as
the biologists who worked on the weapons.

After Iraq's defeat in the Gulf War in 1991, terrorist training camps
proliferated all over the country. One was right next to my ranch, 30
miles north of Baghdad on a branch of the Tigris River. The rural
setting was ideal for such a facility. There were other camps, I learned
later, which were even more remote, reachable only by helicopter. The
buildings were so rudimentary that from the air they looked like Bedouin
encampments.

I got to know one of the commandos who knew of my high rank in the
government and had become friendly with my sons. In a relaxed mood one
day, he told me that the training included the use of gas masks and
special protective clothing, an unmistakable hint that biowar was in the
curriculum.

Another reason to worry about Iraq: It has a huge underground network
of spies and purchasing agents abroad. Bin Laden's agents reportedly

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 15:19, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
 The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since 
 September 11. Remember, remember! Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of 
 weeping men phoning their wives to say, I love you, before they were
   burned alive. Remember those people leaping o their deaths from the 
 top of burning skyscrapers. Remember the hundreds of firemen buried 
 alive. Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was 
 on one of the planes with her mum. Remember, remember -- and realize 
 that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it 
 could have.

Oh please, what a load of grandstanding tripe.

Remember, remember!

Remember the U.S. victory over democracy in Guatamala, and the 200,000
civilians that have died at the hands of one after another brutal regime
with close ties to Washington for more than four decades.
http://www.rightsaction.org/articles/0797.htm

Remember the more than 200,000 people of East Timor who have been killed
at the hands of the Indonesian Government with the political, monetary
and military support of the United States of America.
http://etan.org/timor/BkgMnu.htm

Remember 70,000+ U.S. sanctioned civilian murders in El Salvador.
http://www3.uakron.edu/worldciv/pascher/salvador.html

Remember Chile, Nicaragua, Panama.

Remember the children of Iraq, who face starvation, lack of medicine,
food and clean drinking, and who have died by the hundreds of thousands
for the sin of being Iraqi.  And will be killed again by a power-hungry
madman who wants to show both his enemies and his allies exactly who
is the boss.
http://www.progressive.org/0801issue/nagy0901.html

I could go on, but those who can hear what I'm saying already know this
stuff, and those that can't won't be swayed anyhow.

 ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- 
 the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the 
 pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol
 Pot's Mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked 
 like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps. An unspeakable act so 
 cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world 
 could agree on one thing --nobody  deserves this fate.

That's right .. we were WITNESSES this time.  The U.S. dishes out
atrocity after atrocity around the globe, without prime-time coverage.

September 11th really woke people up to the fact that there is a war
going on - the casualties have been terribly one sided so far, but no
one nation can hope to show such total disregard for the interests of
the impoverished in the world without having to pay the piper one day. 

And attacks have come, and will come again and again unless there is a
major reversal of U.S. foreign policy.  Again and again, the U.S. seeks
to serve it's economic interests abroad at great cost to the quality of
life in already impoverished nations.

Surely we can agree on one thing --NOBODY-- deserves this fate. 
Violence begets violence.  The path to peace does not lead us through
war.

All you Republican-wannabe U.S. fascist-impostor president lovers can
eat me.  Go find one of those nukes that Dubya loves so much more than
educated children or healthy senior citizens and shove it right up your
ass.  The world will be a safer place for us all when the Bush regime
has finally fallen.

... wow .. this article really got my goat.  :)

Peace,

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:11, Mick Szucs wrote:
 All you Republican-wannabe U.S. fascist-impostor president lovers can
 eat me.  Go find one of those nukes that Dubya loves so much more than
 educated children or healthy senior citizens and shove it right up your
 ass.  The world will be a safer place for us all when the Bush regime
 has finally fallen.

In retrospect, that may have been a little harsh.  You can skip the
nuclear-ass bit.  You're still welcome to eat me.

Peace!

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 30 January 2003 03:19 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
 With all the Anit-American inflamitory comments that have been generated
 on this thread, I couldn't help but to break down, and add my piece to
 this.

Thanks Ric!

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Ross Slade
  The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since

 Oh please, what a load of grandstanding tripe.

My apologies to this list, I have just joined and thought I had joined a
Mandrake Linux support list. Can anyone give me the correct address so I can
join the Mandrake Expert list?

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Mick Szucs
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 16:38, Ross Slade wrote:
   The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since
 
  Oh please, what a load of grandstanding tripe.
 
 My apologies to this list, I have just joined and thought I had joined a
 Mandrake Linux support list. Can anyone give me the correct address so I can
 join the Mandrake Expert list?

My apologies as well.  Shouldn't have posted that last message.  Only
lengthening a thread that should be left to die.  I'll go find myself an
alt.politics group someplace to rant in and leave my discourse here for
Mandrake related things.

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Re: [expert] syncing Palm m515 with J-Pilot

2003-01-30 Thread David Robertson
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 5:23 pm, Jack Coates wrote:


 Do yourself a favor and get pilot-link working before messing with
 Evolution.

 Do youself another favor and just use J-Pilot; I've given up on
 Evolution-pilot as it is incapable of synchronizing. All it can reliably
 do is copy from one location to another, which will produce duplicate
 records. When it tries to synchronize, it will get confused and delete
 records that shouldn't be deleted. Haven't tried with 1.2 yet, but my
 read of their development list archives doesn't inspire confidence that
 PDA work is very high on their list of priorities.
 snip

My main reason for suggesting Evolution was that I couldn't get my Palm 505 to 
sync with JPilot either (using LM 9.0). However, setup and sync thru 
Evolution (1.2 admittedly) was no problem and after I had done that, syncing 
with JPilot worked as well. I have had no problems with Evolution in terms of 
duplicating records, and I can run my Avantgo client  as well, which is 
important to me - I just don't like it that much as a mail client!

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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread Jerry A!
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:41:39PM -0600, J.P. Pasnak wrote:
: 
: Todd Lyons said:
: 
:  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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: 
:  Franki wrote on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:51:50PM +0800 :
:  So would I... I had to give out two logins recently, and would have
:  loved to
:  be able to lock them in their directory..
:  I was hoping Todd would respond with some wisdom on this one.. :-)
: 
:  Due to the way that the privelege seperation in ssh works, I don't know
:  that it's possible.  I realize that _anything_ is possible if you put
:  enough work into it, but it's going to consume a lot of space.  You
:  might as well chroot the whole distro.
: 
: So you're saying my latest endevour, trying to get pam_chroot.so to work
: are fruitless?

With stock OpenSSH yes.  Check out the patches at
http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/ to accomplish what you're after.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 15:03, Todd Lyons wrote:

 Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:49:36AM +0100 :
  Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a
  future for MandrakeSoft.
  After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and
  the world as we know it.
  I listened to the US-Amercan president.
 
 Offtopic for this list.  Take it offlist.
 
 Blue skies... Todd
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Re: [expert] syncing Palm m515 with J-Pilot

2003-01-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 13:39, David Robertson wrote:
 On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 5:23 pm, Jack Coates wrote:
 
 
  Do yourself a favor and get pilot-link working before messing with
  Evolution.
 
  Do youself another favor and just use J-Pilot; I've given up on
  Evolution-pilot as it is incapable of synchronizing. All it can reliably
  do is copy from one location to another, which will produce duplicate
  records. When it tries to synchronize, it will get confused and delete
  records that shouldn't be deleted. Haven't tried with 1.2 yet, but my
  read of their development list archives doesn't inspire confidence that
  PDA work is very high on their list of priorities.
  snip
 
 My main reason for suggesting Evolution was that I couldn't get my Palm 505 to 
 sync with JPilot either (using LM 9.0). However, setup and sync thru 
 Evolution (1.2 admittedly) was no problem and after I had done that, syncing 
 with JPilot worked as well. I have had no problems with Evolution in terms of 
 duplicating records, and I can run my Avantgo client  as well, which is 
 important to me - I just don't like it that much as a mail client!
 
 David

cool, I'll try Evo 1.2 out on my wife's PC; she's getting rather annoyed
at the synchronization problems.
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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread Todd Lyons
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J.P. Pasnak wrote on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:41:39PM -0600 :
 
  So would I... I had to give out two logins recently, and would have
  loved to
  be able to lock them in their directory..
  I was hoping Todd would respond with some wisdom on this one.. :-)
  Due to the way that the privelege seperation in ssh works, I don't know
  that it's possible.  I realize that _anything_ is possible if you put
  enough work into it, but it's going to consume a lot of space.  You
  might as well chroot the whole distro.
 So you're saying my latest endevour, trying to get pam_chroot.so to work
 are fruitless?

No, I'm not saying that because it just might work, regardless of my
ignorance.  (I honestly hadn't thought about using pam to chroot it).

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[expert] ip rules help

2003-01-30 Thread drake
[root]# ip rule list
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
Dump terminated
[root]# ip rule ls
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
Dump terminated

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Re: [expert] 9.0 in production

2003-01-30 Thread drake
DNS, qmail, apache in production on 9.0...

On Thursday 23 January 2003 07:31 pm, Scott Parks wrote:
 I have purchased every copy of Mandrake since 6.5 at Best Buy, but since I
 refuse to shop there anymore and since I feel it is now more important
 than ever to show support for Mdk, I purchased the Pro Suite online today.

 With that out of the way, is anyone using 9.0 in a production environment?
 As web server or other task?  I have an 8.2 server that I might consider
 replacing if 9.0 is ready.

 Thanks,

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[expert] Postfix and ICMP

2003-01-30 Thread Ross Slade



Some background...

I use a Netcom modem/router/hub/firewall which runs embedded Linux for my 
connection to the internet...on my LAN I have one Mandrake 8.1 box and two WinME 
boxes. The Mandrake box is a simple server running Apache, Postfix and Squid 
mainly.

The Netcomuses port forwarding on ports 80  25 (ONLY) to the 
Mandrake box.

As you may have guessed, I have a problem... 8-)

The problem is this:

I receive mail and everything else just fine, and I can send small emails 
(under about 10-15k) just fine, but cannot send anything larger. If I try it 
will start to send then slow gradually until it comes to a grinding halt and 
eventually times out.

As near as I can determine it's related to this:
http://home.uninet.ee/~ragnar/manuals/postfix-19990906-pl02/faq.html#timeouts

My knowledge is very limited, but obviously (?) I need to forward ICMP 
messages to the Mandrake box.

My questions: How? What other ports should be forwarded?

Thanks...

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RE: [expert] 9.0 in production

2003-01-30 Thread Franki
DNS, postfix/amavis-new/spamassasin, apache/mod_perl, samba/print file
server

all running 24/7 in production enviroment.


rgds

Franki

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DNS, qmail, apache in production on 9.0...

On Thursday 23 January 2003 07:31 pm, Scott Parks wrote:
 I have purchased every copy of Mandrake since 6.5 at Best Buy, but since I
 refuse to shop there anymore and since I feel it is now more important
 than ever to show support for Mdk, I purchased the Pro Suite online today.

 With that out of the way, is anyone using 9.0 in a production environment?
 As web server or other task?  I have an 8.2 server that I might consider
 replacing if 9.0 is ready.

 Thanks,

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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-30 Thread J.P. Pasnak
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On January 30, 2003 17:00 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
 J.P. Pasnak wrote on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:41:39PM -0600 :
   So would I... I had to give out two logins recently, and would
   have loved to
   be able to lock them in their directory..
   I was hoping Todd would respond with some wisdom on this one..
   :-)
  
   Due to the way that the privelege seperation in ssh works, I
   don't know that it's possible.  I realize that _anything_ is
   possible if you put enough work into it, but it's going to
   consume a lot of space.  You might as well chroot the whole
   distro.
 
  So you're saying my latest endevour, trying to get pam_chroot.so to
  work are fruitless?

 No, I'm not saying that because it just might work, regardless of my
 ignorance.  (I honestly hadn't thought about using pam to chroot it).

 Blue skies... Todd

pam_choot.so ended up generating errors whenever I attempted to assign 
something in chroot.conf, so I just ended up tightening down the 
directory permissions.   Combine that with scponly and I think it's 
pretty secure now.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Carroll Grigsby
Die thread, die.
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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?(OFF LIST)

2003-01-30 Thread Damian Gatabria
 
  ..OH! That guy is going to kill his neighbour! Quick! Let's nuke them
  both right off the face of the earth!

 Whew, what an accurate characterization of current events.  Stop being a
 damn idiot.


I'll stop being a damn idiot, sir, when you stop making arguable statements
and insulting whoever dares to challenge you. Or, as you said in another
post, your American leadership. heh.


  Doing nothing is no answer. Trying to impose peace by force is no answer
  either.

 Tell it to the Jews and the English people.  Anybody rooted in reality
 is not going to buy the bullshit you are shoveling.

You are damn right i can tell that to the English, pal. Ghandi freed his 
country from them without firing a single bullet.



  If i see two guys having a fist fight, i can try to stop them by
  getting in the middle, in which case i would probably get beat by both
  of them.

 Or you can get the cops to break them up (BY FORCE), at which point the
 problem will be solved for awhile (LIKE IT WAS WITH KUWAIT AND IRAQ).


And who is the world police? The US?


  I can try to make them calm down by talking to them,
  which is of course, useless. I can also sit and watch until it's over.
  It's your choice. Nations on middle-east are all populated by the
  same kind of people. Same origins, same look, same race. For
  some reason (religious, territorial, you name it) they have been
  killing each other for generations. Nothing will ever stop them from
  thinking their enemy is the enemy of their gods. Nothing will make
  them stop killing each other.

 How in the FUCK DO YOU KNOW?  This country was founded on new ideas and

I read the news, buddy. I study history. And i'm not wasting any more time on
this.

Damian


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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-30 Thread Todd Lyons
Todd Lyons wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 12:03:39PM -0800 :

  I listened to the US-Amercan president.
 Offtopic for this list.  Take it offlist.

When I wake up tomorrow, I will unsubscribe everybody who has
contributed to this thread as of right now.  I announced it yesterday
giving 24 hours notice.  No more notices.  People will be dropped, no
questions asked.

You'd think by now Godwin's Law would have ended this thread.

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Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here

2003-01-30 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 15:55 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Wolfgang Bornath wrote:


 Hi wobo..
 
 as far as your wheeled mouse thats likely the easiest part. just go with 
 the generic two button, or generic wheel mouse.

I realized that the wheel did not work in the installation screen but
it works later after installation.

 Bad surprise: As in Beta1 the blue field on the screen was not large
 enough to show the buttons to commence after selection. I tried
 
 as you've noticed you're not going to be able to do individual package 
 selection. I had to cruise past this part as you've done and allow it to 
 install what its going to.

Done that. OK

 Then it started post-installation configuration and asked for Disc #1.
 
 :) this sounds familiar. did the same thing to me so I skipped this part 
 as well. it didn't appear to be a problem since the installation runs 
 just fine.

I did another attempt and it did not ask for disc1, it run right
through!

 listing of devices and realized there was no network installed. I

 Then I hit the bar with the X configuration. It asked for my monitor
 
 as for config-ing the the display its been my experience to not do 
 configure for anything as fancy as your Gforce card and wait till the 
 system restarts after the install and then do your display config. ( its 
 all part of the excitement and discovery of the beta version. )

No, this time it showed No network configured and No X configured
but when I marked the bars and hit Continue I could configure X and
network. Both run without tweaking now!

 I commenced without X and that was it. No option to create a bootdisk.
 I forgot: there was an option to install LILO but I passed it because
 it did not give me the option to have it on a bootdisk.

Now I even got the option to create a bootdisk!

What does not work is the integration of 9.1 in my main lilo.conf of 9.0. I am working 
on that. Until then I use the bootdisk.

BTW: Someone early after start of the Beta cycle wrote about the
wonderful new look with his fonts. I can't see that. I have the same
look as in 9.0 as far as fonts are concerned. Without importing the
ttf from my WIndows partition I have the same ugly look in console
windows and X apps. Even worse in Mozilla.

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Re: [expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs

2003-01-30 Thread Mark Weaver
Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote:
 So, when do you guys think MD9.1 will be out?  I have tried compiling
 qt3.1.1 and got errors on install, so I quit :(   Im not much of a
 GUI person anyways..although I saw a theme i really wanted for
 KDE3.1


don't know, but I'm hoping soon cause some things about 9.0 are driving 
me nuts. nothing serious...just some pet peeves I have with nfs on 9.0.

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Re: [expert] Annonying Reverse Video

2003-01-30 Thread Mark Weaver
Tru64 User wrote:

Mandy9.0/8.0
How does one get rid of the annonying reverse video,
like one u get (using xterm)when u use man, more etc.?

Suddenly all screen is white, and characters are
black. Temporal solution i have lived with for a while
is entering vi, then existing. This clears it, but it
comes up again when any of the above commands are
used.

_Thanks

_Richard M.


Richard,

What kind of machine are you running? it sounds like a video problem.

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[expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs

2003-01-30 Thread Mark Weaver
Hi list,

Has anyone successfully managed to compile any of the new KDE packages. 
(the 3.1 final release) there aren't any rpm's yet for Mandrake so I 
started to compile the src packages. I've gotten arts to compile and 
install, but beyond that everything else is producing errors and won't 
compile.  :(
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