Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...
Stupid question: when removing hdb, you aren't changing hdc jumpers, are you?? El vie, 07-03-2003 a las 12:19, Mark Watts escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I have a system with 3 harddrives in it (hda = Windows, hdb = spare (part XFS, > part FAT32) and hdc = Linux (resierfs). > I installed Windows first, followed by 9.0 on hdc, and chose to install lilo > to hda's boot sector. > This has been working just fine since I installed. > I've come to a point where I'm moving hdb out of the system... > Whenever I remove it, I get the ubiquitos LI LI LI LI LI across the screen, > indicating that lilo is toast. Putting the drive back makes everything work > as before. > > 2 questions: > > 1) Should lilo really be doing this, bearing in mind that hdb isnt mentioned > in lilo.conf (It has an old 8.2 install I havent removed yet on it, but I'd > have to make a boot disk to boot from it). > > 2) If I re-reun lilo (from a rescue cd and chrooting stuff) without changing > lilo.conf, will that fix the LI LI LI issue? > > Cheers, > > Mark. > > - -- > Mark Watts > Systems Engineer > QinetiQ TIM > St Andrews Road, Malvern > GPG Public Key available on request. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+aIA5Bn4EFUVUIO0RAhuvAKCzIzCZDqFlr6+RWzdSEmrpglnB8QCgxetA > gfpHOl0qRleNXs2VLEiSQcY= > =wfFV > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Diego Dominguez __/\__ | | Andalucia /\ Spain \/ |__ __| \/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger.yahoo.es Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /tmp size
El Vie 07 Mar 2003 20:24, Jack Coates escribió sabiamente: > I have 384M of RAM and I'm using VMWare. Currently I give it 128M to > play with, which because of that shared memory tmpfs Solaris-like voodoo > is implemented under /tmp. > > For whatever reason, my system has set a maximum size of 188M on /tmp. > > Since upgrading (downgrading) my VMWare image from W98 to W2k, I'd like > to increase the amount of memory it has to work with -- however, if I go > past 128M it rapidly fills up /tmp and VMWare barfs. > > How can I increase the amount of tmpfs space in /tmp? > > Failing that, why the tmpfs voodoo and is there anything wrong with > blowing it away and using plain old fashioned disk space for /tmp? > > thanks, Maybe the problem is that your /mnt is a mountpoint for a tmpfs, and tmpfs is limited to your memory. Yes, maybe you can use swap (I don't know) for tmpfs, but IMHO the best solution is: - Edit your /etc/fstab - Delete the line related to /tmp mountpoint: (In my case: "none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0") - Reboot Now tmp files will be stored in your harddisk, not in ram. The limit of the tmp folder will be the limit of your / partition (of course you can mount some other partition in /tmp to get more space;) OTOH, from now you shoud use tmpwatch to clean the /tmp folder (man tmpwatch). Best regards, -- Óscar Santacreu Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history of kylix3and mdk9 :)]
zephod wrote: If I remember correctly, I think /var/lib/rpm/__db.001 /var/lib/rpm/__db.002 ... would solve the problem the *real* question is, why rpm database corruption happens so often? (looking at reports here and my own experience). And then why the removing of those files isn't automated by rpm --rebuilddb Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS or other RBL. They arbitrarily IP addresses not related in any way to spam, disrupting Internet connectivity. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 and http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history of kylix3 and mdk9 :)]
On Saturday 08 March 2003 11:11, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > the *real* question is, why rpm database corruption happens so often? > (looking at reports here and my own experience). I think that in some cases the rpm database does not clean up properly when you kill an rpm command in progress. I must say that I have seen this problem only with the rpm-system shipped with Mandrake 9.0. > And then why the removing of those files isn't automated by rpm --rebuilddb > > Bye Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...
On Friday 07 March 2003 09:33 pm, Gary Hodder wrote: > Hi Mark, > > with the 3 drives in and it boots normally, edit the fstab file and > change the hdc? to hdb? > ? being the partition number. > Change lilo to be hdb instead of hdc. > Reboot with a floppy, at lilo promp: linux root=/dev/hdb? > ? being the partition number the os is on. > Run lilo. > Reboot to boot from kernel on harddrive. > > Gary. and next time, don't use "cable select" as the way to choice master and slave HDs, use the jumpers on the drive itself. > > On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 22:19, Mark Watts wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a system with 3 harddrives in it (hda = Windows, hdb = spare (part > > XFS, part FAT32) and hdc = Linux (resierfs). > > I installed Windows first, followed by 9.0 on hdc, and chose to install > > lilo to hda's boot sector. > > This has been working just fine since I installed. > > I've come to a point where I'm moving hdb out of the system... > > Whenever I remove it, I get the ubiquitos LI LI LI LI LI across the > > screen, indicating that lilo is toast. Putting the drive back makes > > everything work as before. > > > > 2 questions: > > > > 1) Should lilo really be doing this, bearing in mind that hdb isnt > > mentioned in lilo.conf (It has an old 8.2 install I havent removed yet on > > it, but I'd have to make a boot disk to boot from it). > > > > 2) If I re-reun lilo (from a rescue cd and chrooting stuff) without > > changing lilo.conf, will that fix the LI LI LI issue? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark. > > > > - -- > > Mark Watts > > Systems Engineer > > QinetiQ TIM > > St Andrews Road, Malvern > > GPG Public Key available on request. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+aIA5Bn4EFUVUIO0RAhuvAKCzIzCZDqFlr6+RWzdSEmrpglnB8QCgxetA > > gfpHOl0qRleNXs2VLEiSQcY= > > =wfFV > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
OK. I fiddled some more with it (a few hours). None of the parameters you gave me worked. Same problem. With the enterprise kernel there is a small difference which I noticed just now (or at least in the 12mdk enterprise kernel from cooker). It lights Scroll lock and Caps lock but doesn't blink. They just stay on. I tried booting failsafe and what do you know... It booted and reported my memory ok (1.032.900k). Then I tried adjusting the 12mdk parameters one by one to reflect the ones in failsafe and I isolated this one to be causing the kernel panic: vga=788 I switched again all the parameters to the original from the 12mdk enterprise kernel but left this vga=788 out and it booted with no problem. What the heck is/does vga=788 and why does it cause PCs to freeze when 1G memory installed?!? :/ Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adrian Golumbovici wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:30:00AM +0100 : > > > I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux > > won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work > > either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found. > > Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads > > lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't react > > to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking > > continuously. :( > > Probably not a useful question, but is it at the rate of 1/2 second per > blink? > > If you look at the /usr/src/linux/kernel/panic.c file, you'll see that > something failed and called the panic_blink() function. It's a function > that never stops. The panic_blink() function is actually defined in > /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/pc_keyb.c and it just alternates the mode of > the 0x01 and 0x04 bits, which are Scroll Lock and Caps Lock > respectively. > > Now what called that is quite possibly something that is going to be a > lot more difficult to find out. Try passing 'noapic noacpi nodma > ide0=nodma nomce acpi=off pci=biosirq' and see if _something_ happens. > > Basically the linux kernel has a VERY big problem with your motherboard. > > Blue skies... Todd > - -- > Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because > that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn > Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+aUE/lp7v05cW2woRAmrFAJ9rZAwO485Q8Oq1Urt591PsRwpWDwCgxgzG > ih7LRyXknMzxqO0ztJfHdSw= > =N6KH > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adrian Golumbovici wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:23:13PM +0100 : Also I checked and mem=960M doesn't help and the enterprise kernel has same problem. I tried lowering the mem value even further and with 900 didn't work. With 800 it worked (both distro kernel and enterprise). :/ The actual crossover point is 896 Megs (or 892, I can never remember). *lol* why does this feel so damn known to me ??? :) Regarding that - I also remember many people having had problems with ACPI enabled in the CMOS-Setup. You could also try disabling the ACPI (Power management) in your motherboard, especially the suspend to ram etc. functions which screw up some things... Guess we have almost done a complete turnaround of testing capabilities here :) Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice & Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:48 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > OK. I fiddled some more with it (a few hours). None of the parameters you > gave me worked. Same problem. With the enterprise kernel there is a small > difference which I noticed just now (or at least in the 12mdk enterprise > kernel from cooker). It lights Scroll lock and Caps lock but doesn't blink. > They just stay on. I tried booting failsafe and what do you know... It > booted and reported my memory ok (1.032.900k). Then I tried adjusting the > 12mdk parameters one by one to reflect the ones in failsafe and I isolated > this one to be causing the kernel panic: > vga=788 > I switched again all the parameters to the original from the 12mdk > enterprise kernel but left this vga=788 out and it booted with no problem. > What the heck is/does vga=788 and why does it cause PCs to freeze when 1G > memory installed?!? :/ > > Best regards, > Adrian > - Original Message - > From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:02 AM > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore that number is a video mode, were was it that you changed it (in lilo? compileing a kernel? how long did you let the "lockup" sit? you may have just been booting using a mode your video card could not do, so rather than do a display that would hurt the card, you got no display, and it "may" have come back had you let it sit 3 mins with a working X, or at leasta command prompt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
I left it for a couple of minutes, but with no reaction and those lights on keyboard lighting (which normally don't light) I figured it crashed. Anyway, if that mode is not supported by my video card, why does that setting work with 512MB but it freezes as long as it has 1024MB RAM?!? Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:48 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > OK. I fiddled some more with it (a few hours). None of the parameters you > gave me worked. Same problem. With the enterprise kernel there is a small > difference which I noticed just now (or at least in the 12mdk enterprise > kernel from cooker). It lights Scroll lock and Caps lock but doesn't blink. > They just stay on. I tried booting failsafe and what do you know... It > booted and reported my memory ok (1.032.900k). Then I tried adjusting the > 12mdk parameters one by one to reflect the ones in failsafe and I isolated > this one to be causing the kernel panic: > vga=788 > I switched again all the parameters to the original from the 12mdk > enterprise kernel but left this vga=788 out and it booted with no problem. > What the heck is/does vga=788 and why does it cause PCs to freeze when 1G > memory installed?!? :/ > > Best regards, > Adrian > - Original Message - > From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:02 AM > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore that number is a video mode, were was it that you changed it (in lilo? compileing a kernel? how long did you let the "lockup" sit? you may have just been booting using a mode your video card could not do, so rather than do a display that would hurt the card, you got no display, and it "may" have come back had you let it sit 3 mins with a working X, or at leasta command prompt > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
On Saturday 08 March 2003 07:03 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > I left it for a couple of minutes, but with no reaction and those lights on > keyboard lighting (which normally don't light) I figured it crashed. > Anyway, if that mode is not supported by my video card, why does that > setting work with 512MB but it freezes as long as it has 1024MB RAM?!? well now, with that info (that it works at 512 megs) _I_ would sure be guessing about what the problem could be. I don't even remember what video card you use, weither it was "onboard" and if the BIOS settings for the agp type, speed and "opening" are set correctly. I am sure the vga=768 is a setting for the video mode. (and I think it is a "fairly low" resolution) but if it is a setting in LILO that you are screwing with, then just forget about a vidoe mode durring bootup would be my suggestion. > Best regards, > Adrian > - Original Message - > From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > > On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:48 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > > OK. I fiddled some more with it (a few hours). None of the parameters you > > gave me worked. Same problem. With the enterprise kernel there is a small > > difference which I noticed just now (or at least in the 12mdk enterprise > > kernel from cooker). It lights Scroll lock and Caps lock but doesn't > > blink. > > > They just stay on. I tried booting failsafe and what do you know... It > > booted and reported my memory ok (1.032.900k). Then I tried adjusting the > > 12mdk parameters one by one to reflect the ones in failsafe and I > > isolated this one to be causing the kernel panic: > > vga=788 > > I switched again all the parameters to the original from the 12mdk > > enterprise kernel but left this vga=788 out and it booted with no > > problem. What the heck is/does vga=788 and why does it cause PCs to > > freeze when 1G memory installed?!? :/ > > > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > - Original Message - > > From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > > that number is a video mode, were was it that you changed it (in lilo? > compileing a kernel? how long did you let the "lockup" sit? you may have > just > been booting using a mode your video card could not do, so rather than do a > display that would hurt the card, you got no display, and it "may" have > come back had you let it sit 3 mins with a working X, or at leasta command > prompt > > > > > --- >- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history of kylix3and mdk9 :)]
zephod wrote: the *real* question is, why rpm database corruption happens so often? (looking at reports here and my own experience). I think that in some cases the rpm database does not clean up properly when you kill an rpm command in progress. I must say that I have seen this problem only with the rpm-system shipped with Mandrake 9.0. Nope, I saw this also on 8.2 (in fact I have a cd writer server running 8.2 where rpm freaked out and I didn't bother to recover the database, I will just reinstall if I need to update something). Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS or other RBL. They arbitrarily IP addresses not related in any way to spam, disrupting Internet connectivity. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 and http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
On Saturday 08 March 2003 03:03 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > I left it for a couple of minutes, but with no reaction and those lights on > keyboard lighting (which normally don't light) I figured it crashed. > Anyway, if that mode is not supported by my video card, why does that > setting work with 512MB but it freezes as long as it has 1024MB RAM?!? > > Best regards, > Adrian > - Original Message - > From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > > On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:48 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > > OK. I fiddled some more with it (a few hours). None of the parameters you > > gave me worked. Same problem. With the enterprise kernel there is a small > > difference which I noticed just now (or at least in the 12mdk enterprise > > kernel from cooker). It lights Scroll lock and Caps lock but doesn't > > blink. > > > They just stay on. I tried booting failsafe and what do you know... It > > booted and reported my memory ok (1.032.900k). Then I tried adjusting the > > 12mdk parameters one by one to reflect the ones in failsafe and I > > isolated this one to be causing the kernel panic: > > vga=788 > > I switched again all the parameters to the original from the 12mdk > > enterprise kernel but left this vga=788 out and it booted with no > > problem. What the heck is/does vga=788 and why does it cause PCs to > > freeze when 1G memory installed?!? :/ > > > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > - Original Message - > > From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > > that number is a video mode, were was it that you changed it (in lilo? > compileing a kernel? how long did you let the "lockup" sit? you may have > just > been booting using a mode your video card could not do, so rather than do a > display that would hurt the card, you got no display, and it "may" have > come back had you let it sit 3 mins with a working X, or at leasta command > prompt > > > > > --- >- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com That happens because your BIOS is mapping video framebuffer across your memory In other words the BIOS is misreporting the bridge mappings. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
Ummm... But then again. I can start X and run linux just fine after I boot without that parameter. Does that mean the mapping of the framebuffer is back to normal after boot?!? I would love to shove this motherboard up the manufacturers ... behind. :) But how come other OS (I hate to even pronounce M$ product names :) ) have no prob with it? Before I am going with my mobo back to the store where I bought it (though I have it since 4 months and doubt they would accept a refund just based on "linux doesn't work with it with 1GB of ram...), I was wondering if there is anything else I could try to find out more about where it chokes so I can be 100% sure it is the mobo's fault and not the fault of linux? And BTW, I picked a random graphics mode at boot (vga=ask and selected 6 - 80x60) and it worked... Best regards, Adrian - Original Message - From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > On Saturday 08 March 2003 03:03 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > > I left it for a couple of minutes, but with no reaction and those lights on > > keyboard lighting (which normally don't light) I figured it crashed. > > Anyway, if that mode is not supported by my video card, why does that > > setting work with 512MB but it freezes as long as it has 1024MB RAM?!? > > > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > - Original Message - > > From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > > > > On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:48 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > > > OK. I fiddled some more with it (a few hours). None of the parameters you > > > gave me worked. Same problem. With the enterprise kernel there is a small > > > difference which I noticed just now (or at least in the 12mdk enterprise > > > kernel from cooker). It lights Scroll lock and Caps lock but doesn't > > > > blink. > > > > > They just stay on. I tried booting failsafe and what do you know... It > > > booted and reported my memory ok (1.032.900k). Then I tried adjusting the > > > 12mdk parameters one by one to reflect the ones in failsafe and I > > > isolated this one to be causing the kernel panic: > > > vga=788 > > > I switched again all the parameters to the original from the 12mdk > > > enterprise kernel but left this vga=788 out and it booted with no > > > problem. What the heck is/does vga=788 and why does it cause PCs to > > > freeze when 1G memory installed?!? :/ > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Adrian > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:02 AM > > > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux > > > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore > > > > that number is a video mode, were was it that you changed it (in lilo? > > compileing a kernel? how long did you let the "lockup" sit? you may have > > just > > been booting using a mode your video card could not do, so rather than do a > > display that would hurt the card, you got no display, and it "may" have > > come back had you let it sit 3 mins with a working X, or at leasta command > > prompt > > > > > > > > > > -- - > >- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > That happens because your BIOS is mapping video framebuffer across your > memory In other words the BIOS is misreporting the bridge mappings. > > Civileme > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /tmp size
I have a computer with only 128MB ram, it chuggs along very slowly in X Windows. in fstab there is a /tmp tempfs ramdisk, I commented it out so that it now uses the root /tmp. However, performace is still about the same, odd considering there should be about 64MB of ram extra available. Any ideas on speeding up this computer with only 128MB ram (more ram is not an option unfortunatly as the mobo has a broken socket, and 256MB ram does not work in the remaining socket). Cheers JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history of kylix3 and mdk9 :)]
Hi, A long time ago I used the Slackware, then I used tgz packages. When I knew the RPM was love the first sight, but now I see that it is not well what I waited. Some friends speak that apt is the best system of packages and for that they had spoken to me, it is really good. The Mandrake also could to have the APT :) However, the important one would be that all distributions GNU adopted one same manager of packages. [ ] Emerson BRAZIL ___ Busca Yahoo! O serviço de busca mais completo da Internet. O que você pensar o Yahoo! encontra. http://br.busca.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history of kylix3and mdk9 :)]
Emerson de Mello wrote: When I knew the RPM was love the first sight, but now I see that it is not well what I waited. I actually think that rpm is great, I only wish it were more robust. Some friends speak that apt is the best system of packages and for that they had spoken to me, it is really good. I think that rpm and apt are (feature less, feature more) very similar. I apt-get that makes apt shine in debian, but we have urpmi. Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS or other RBL. They arbitrarily IP addresses not related in any way to spam, disrupting Internet connectivity. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 and http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history of kylix3and mdk9 :)]
Luca Olivetti wrote: I think that in some cases the rpm database does not clean up properly when you kill an rpm command in progress. I must say that I have seen this problem only with the rpm-system shipped with Mandrake 9.0. Nope, I saw this also on 8.2 (in fact I have a cd writer server running 8.2 where rpm freaked out and I didn't bother to recover the database, I will just reinstall if I need to update something). And, btw, these corruption were while normal rpm install/upgrade, no interruption whatsoever (the last one a week ago, and the rebuilddb missed the upgraded package, ie. neither the old nor the new version was in the database). Bye -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS or other RBL. They arbitrarily IP addresses not related in any way to spam, disrupting Internet connectivity. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 and http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Phone Line Networking Driver - Linksys HPN200 NIC
I found this on Google.. http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2002-09/msg00205.html Hope that helps On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 07:40, Dennis Lyon wrote: > Does anyone know of a driver to support this card? (I am running MD 9.0) > And, if so, where would I find the detailed instructions on how to add > to the kernel? > > > > Thanks > > > > Dennis Lyon > > > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] /tmp size
> I have a computer with only 128MB ram, it chuggs along very slowly in X > Windows. in fstab there is a /tmp tempfs ramdisk, I commented it out so I've not looked at tmpfs. My guess is that if /tmp is empty, or has little in it, there really shouldn't be half (which is the default) of the RAM allocated to it. Even though that's tunable, that you don't notice any difference using HD for /tmp makes me think that it wasn't using up a lot of RAM in the first place. On such a system you might try using a lightweight window manager rather than the default KDE or Gnome, both of which are memory-intensive. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] /tmp size
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 06:42, David E. Fox wrote: > > I have a computer with only 128MB ram, it chuggs along very slowly in X > > Windows. in fstab there is a /tmp tempfs ramdisk, I commented it out so > > I've not looked at tmpfs. My guess is that if /tmp is empty, or has > little in it, there really shouldn't be half (which is the default) of > the RAM allocated to it. Even though that's tunable, that you don't > notice any difference using HD for /tmp makes me think that it wasn't > using up a lot of RAM in the first place. > I've read that tmpfs is dynamicaly allocated. > On such a system you might try using a lightweight window manager > rather than the default KDE or Gnome, both of which are > memory-intensive. > > definitely. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
On 07 Mar 2003 19:56:21 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 17:25, Pierre Fortin wrote: > ... > > In this case, I *want* 700... no sane automated "security" system > > should ever *reduce* security levels setup by the owner... it's > > downright nasty IMNSHO... > ... > > > > msec should check existing permissions when run; if they are tighter > > than what would be set, LEAVE THEM ALONE *AND* RECORD the settings as > > the MINIMUM for the current level -- in other words, if /home/* are > > 700 at level 3, the user tries level 4, and goes back to 3, the perms > > should still be 700! > > > > NEVER EVER reduce security levels set by the owner! It's downright > > irresponsible... and NO, telling the users to add local rules after > > lower their security is not acceptable -- fix the logic! > > > > I do agree with you, but I also see Mandrake's point and I think that > this comes from several distros of telling people that a workstation OS > clearly not intended as a server should be using levels 4 and 5 and > buckled tighter than NORAD. Funny you should mention NORAD... from '64 to '71, I worked in NORAD HQ (Canada) deep under the mountain... so I have my own opinions about how thight NORAD is... can't say any more... :> Anyway... I have no problems with suggesting higher security levels... what I *DO* have a problem with is lowering security JUST-TO-MATCH-SOME-PREDEFINED-MATRIX... If "several distros" think a w/s OS should be tighter than a server, then they have missed the boat... IMO, yes w/s OS should be tight; but server OS should be tighter *without* killing _its_ raison d'etre... > User installs system, user follows installer recommendation and chooses > level 4. User spends several days trying to make Level 4 work before > realizing that msec is the problem. Just confirms my "matrix" comment above... I could keep myself safe in a hermetically sealed box; but would die from lack of oxygen... security should *protect* a system, not kill its functionality, or worse lower the user's choice of security... My point is that it's not up to the distros to define the rules, rather provide the tools and some guidelines. If msec was better thought out, it would probably be able to let us select security levels on all the individual components instead of a matrix of predefined settings. I would check the msec docs; but I removed msec... begs the orthogonal question: why aren't docs, man pages, info pages, etc. grouped into (general, sysadmin, security, other_major_grouping} and installed separately? That way, a user could make an informed decision before installing a package... > Now, in your recommendation user must wipe the disk and start over from > scratch. Huh? I don't follow your logic here... I only asked that msec not blindly lower established security -- please elaborate... > In msec's current implementation, user simply alters the security level > to 3 and the system heals itself (in theory). But not in practice... it makes the system more vulnerable than what *I* decided on... I'm beginning to think that Mdk should make their security tools optional until those tools have been confirmed NOT to lower security if installed/used... or worse, cut off its raison d'etre in msec >= 4... I know this sounds a little 'off the wall'; but I still think msec is ill-conceived... my 8.1 page on msec showed that the core idea is a matrix and the system's security relies on the matrix being completely filled in (http://pfortin.com/Linux/permresults.shtml) -- I don't see how what I'm suggesting could be implemented in the current incantation, beyond bad hacks... time for a new tool...? Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:07 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Ummm... But then again. I can start X and run linux just fine after I boot
> without that parameter. Does that mean the mapping of the framebuffer is
> back to normal after boot?!? I would love to shove this motherboard up the
> manufacturers ... behind. :) But how come other OS (I hate to even
> pronounce M$ product names :) ) have no prob with it?
>
> Before I am going with my mobo back to the store where I bought it (though
> I have it since 4 months and doubt they would accept a refund just based on
> "linux doesn't work with it with 1GB of ram...), I was wondering if there
> is anything else I could try to find out more about where it chokes so I
> can be 100% sure it is the mobo's fault and not the fault of linux? And
> BTW, I picked a random graphics mode at boot (vga=ask and selected 6 -
> 80x60) and it worked...
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
> - Original Message -
> From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux
> won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
>
> > On Saturday 08 March 2003 03:03 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > > I left it for a couple of minutes, but with no reaction and those
> > > lights
>
> on
>
> > > keyboard lighting (which normally don't light) I figured it crashed.
> > > Anyway, if that mode is not supported by my video card, why does that
> > > setting work with 512MB but it freezes as long as it has 1024MB RAM?!?
> > That happens because your BIOS is mapping video framebuffer across your
> > memory In other words the BIOS is misreporting the bridge mappings.
> >
> > Civileme
Well, try two 1024Mb memory sticks and I bet you will see more than just the
framebuffer problem.
Windows does not use all of memory right away while linux does ("unused memory
is wasted memory") so I would imagine that IF windows trusts the BIOS for
memory and peripheral maps that you would encounter crashing when your memory
use of memory is similar to that of linux.
This behavior is almost identical to a performance encountered in 2001 with
8.0 (2.4 kernel) on a Dell notebook when mem was upgraded from 128M to 256M.
As soon as mem was upgraded past 192M, a "Bad Bridge Mapping" was
encountered, and using the enterprise kernel resulted in an ACPI error
reported on top of that. Windoze was oblivious to the problem entirely (I
don't think it used the BIOS report of mapping of PCI Bridge, but it may
never have used enough memory). Kernel 2.2, which is not built to trust the
BIOS, worked fine even at full 512M.
remember, the video framebuffer is independent of the normal X driver (and I
am somewhat curious about the video card), and is supposed to use some
memory. I find it strange that the normal kernel which uses about 892 or
896M of memory ran at 800 but not at 900... If you have interest, it might
be instructive to find where exactly one encounters the kernel panic in terms
of memory usage.
Civileme
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Re: [expert] /tmp size
On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:14 am, J. Grant wrote: > I have a computer with only 128MB ram, it chuggs along very slowly in X > Windows. in fstab there is a /tmp tempfs ramdisk, I commented it out so > that it now uses the root /tmp. However, performace is still about the > same, odd considering there should be about 64MB of ram extra available. > Any ideas on speeding up this computer with only 128MB ram (more ram > is not an option unfortunatly as the mobo has a broken socket, and 256MB > ram does not work in the remaining socket). > > Cheers > > JG Well try a light WM like Blackbox with the ROX file manager. I think there are some posts about creating desktop icons in that situation in the newbie archives. KDE is hitting the disk ALL the time with positioning of windows update info, so disk buffering/caching is very very important to its performance. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history of kylix3 and mdk9 :)]
On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:29 am, Emerson de Mello wrote: > Hi, > > A long time ago I used the Slackware, then I used tgz > packages. > > When I knew the RPM was love the first sight, but now > I see that it is not well what I waited. > > Some friends speak that apt is the best system of > packages and for that they had spoken to me, it is > really good. > > The Mandrake also could to have the APT :) > > However, the important one would be that all > distributions GNU adopted one same manager of > packages. > > [ ] > Emerson > BRAZIL > > ___ > Busca Yahoo! > O serviço de busca mais completo da Internet. O que você pensar o Yahoo! > encontra. http://br.busca.yahoo.com/ Every system has its prices. rpm updates to different systems (rpm3 vs rpm4) and using the older system may break the newer, because more features were needed. rpm is not perfect but at least it is still changing. APT is pricey in two ways--it is hard to make packages for an follow all the rules (read "hard" to mean extremely time-consuming), and it's dpkg system is not easy to change... So far, no major changes have been needed, but how long can that last? Basically apt works so well because almost all dpkg repositories are mirrors of one central one But with rpm4 you can use rpms made by Yahoo and they work out of the box on Mandrake. You can (usually) use RH-specific rpms without a problem except perhaps unsatisifed dependencies or possibly conflicts with files supplied. rpm stops you if you try to do that, at least at a warning level. But if I want to make a dpkg and follow dpkg rules I have to examine EVERY SINGLE FILE offered by all existing dpkgs and make sure none of mine duplicate any of theirs in name or content. If I decide for valid engineering reasons to split one dpkg into two, I have a huge problem, whereas with rpm that is not much of a difficulty at all, though setting up the right update is tricky for rpm in that case(rpm has no built-in way to handle it, while dpkg appears to have no means at all to handle such an innovation). I am of course open to learning more about apt-get/dpkg, but what little I did learn, as a developer, really turned me off. That is the other cost. A fully regimented system for packaging means you have to find developers who are willing to use it. It is certainly possible to supply apt-get/rpm-get as part of a distro, but changing the packaging system of a distro is another matter entirely. In other words, what packaging system a distro uses is a management decision based on multiple cost factors which are not always readily apparent. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 07:08, Pierre Fortin wrote: ... > > buckled tighter than NORAD. > > Funny you should mention NORAD... from '64 to '71, I worked in NORAD HQ > (Canada) deep under the mountain... so I have my own opinions about how > thight NORAD is... can't say any more... :> > I actually struggled for a while trying to think of something that says "security" but actually means it... Fort Knox, a bank, WOPR, oh well :-) ... > Just confirms my "matrix" comment above... I could keep myself safe in a > hermetically sealed box; but would die from lack of oxygen... security > should *protect* a system, not kill its functionality, or worse lower the > user's choice of security... My point is that it's not up to the distros > to define the rules, rather provide the tools and some guidelines. If > msec was better thought out, it would probably be able to let us select > security levels on all the individual components instead of a matrix of > predefined settings. the matrix idea requires the administrator to first learn the matrix, second agree or disagree with it, and third make adjustments in perm.local. Absence of a matrix requires the administrator to make all the decisions from scratch. Using the matrix makes your mistakes less likely and the distro's mistakes more dangerous, not using the matrix puts you in full control instead of the distro. You say tomayto, I say tomahto on the theory here, but I do agree that there are issues with the practice -- especially in levels 4 and 5. I actually don't find this situation much different than configuring Tripwire. You can build your own policy file from scratch, or you can start from one of the templates. If you change policy to a new, less restrictive template, it isn't going to remember how you used to like it. > > I would check the msec docs; but I removed msec... begs the orthogonal > question: why aren't docs, man pages, info pages, etc. grouped into > (general, sysadmin, security, other_major_grouping} and installed > separately? That way, a user could make an informed decision before > installing a package... > that's what the web is for :-) > > Now, in your recommendation user must wipe the disk and start over from > > scratch. > > Huh? I don't follow your logic here... I only asked that msec not > blindly lower established security -- please elaborate... If the msec tool can't lower established security, then the user has no way to move from level 4 of the matrix to level 3 except by starting over. Msec can't distinguish between changes you made and changes it made until the Unix file and permissions system is very different than it is today (think HFS forks). So if you don't permit msec to make things more permissive, you can't choose to fix overly restrictive mistakes in a sweeping, matrix-thinking compliant way. You can certainly go through the whole system manually tweaking things, but in the instance of /proc restrictions, resource restrictions and kernel capabilities that manual tweaking is beyond the average administrator and more time-consuming than a re-install. > > > In msec's current implementation, user simply alters the security level > > to 3 and the system heals itself (in theory). > > But not in practice... it makes the system more vulnerable than what *I* > decided on... I'm beginning to think that Mdk should make their security > tools optional until those tools have been confirmed NOT to lower security > if installed/used... or worse, cut off its raison d'etre in msec >= 4... > If you don't want it to do things for you, then you should remove it and take responsibility for configuring your own security policy. It's a tool for helping admins decide and implement policy -- you don't have to use their matrix, and it isn't going to complain if you replace all the perm.* files with your own idea of how things ought to be. I have other things to do, unfortunately, so I pick a level that seems to work okay, make a few tweaks, nmap and nessus it, then keep up with the patches. Obviously you do something of the same nature because you're on Mandrake instead of a DIY distro like Slackware or LFS, right? To call for removal of a tool because you don't like it seems a little extreme (though I'm sure I've been guilty of it too). > I know this sounds a little 'off the wall'; but I still think msec is > ill-conceived... my 8.1 page on msec showed that the core idea is a > matrix and the system's security relies on the matrix being completely > filled in (http://pfortin.com/Linux/permresults.shtml) -- I don't see how > what I'm suggesting could be implemented in the current incantation, > beyond bad hacks... time for a new tool...? > I think that's being extreme, see above comments about editing the matrix. If you use the matrix-based tool, you've got to configure it properly. If you don't want it to increase permissions on something, you've got to tell it so through the only interface it's going to listen to
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
I am interested. Of course I am. I want to find out if it really is a kernel
or mobo problem. Unless I can prove that my mobo is not working right I have
no chance of giving it back. If you can help me trace the exact problem I
would be gratefull. I would love to bring back the motherboard to the shop
and buy one with no problem (probably a A7N8X), but unless I can prove it is
not working I have no chance. Unfortunatelly I know no diagnostics program
which could help me prove that. So please help me trace the problem to the
origin. I am not that much of an expert, but would love to see my system
work. I am a programmer myself, but not that much into hardware level
programming and linux is my newfound love (been fiddling with it for about 2
years now), but never had to go this deep to trace a problem.
So please help.
Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
> On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:07 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > Ummm... But then again. I can start X and run linux just fine after I
boot
> > without that parameter. Does that mean the mapping of the framebuffer is
> > back to normal after boot?!? I would love to shove this motherboard up
the
> > manufacturers ... behind. :) But how come other OS (I hate to even
> > pronounce M$ product names :) ) have no prob with it?
> >
> > Before I am going with my mobo back to the store where I bought it
(though
> > I have it since 4 months and doubt they would accept a refund just based
on
> > "linux doesn't work with it with 1GB of ram...), I was wondering if
there
> > is anything else I could try to find out more about where it chokes so I
> > can be 100% sure it is the mobo's fault and not the fault of linux? And
> > BTW, I picked a random graphics mode at boot (vga=ask and selected 6 -
> > 80x60) and it worked...
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Adrian
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux
> > won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
> >
> > > On Saturday 08 March 2003 03:03 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > > > I left it for a couple of minutes, but with no reaction and those
> > > > lights
> >
> > on
> >
> > > > keyboard lighting (which normally don't light) I figured it crashed.
> > > > Anyway, if that mode is not supported by my video card, why does
that
> > > > setting work with 512MB but it freezes as long as it has 1024MB
RAM?!?
>
>
> > > That happens because your BIOS is mapping video framebuffer across
your
> > > memory In other words the BIOS is misreporting the bridge
mappings.
> > >
> > > Civileme
>
> Well, try two 1024Mb memory sticks and I bet you will see more than just
the
> framebuffer problem.
>
> Windows does not use all of memory right away while linux does ("unused
memory
> is wasted memory") so I would imagine that IF windows trusts the BIOS for
> memory and peripheral maps that you would encounter crashing when your
memory
> use of memory is similar to that of linux.
>
> This behavior is almost identical to a performance encountered in 2001
with
> 8.0 (2.4 kernel) on a Dell notebook when mem was upgraded from 128M to
256M.
> As soon as mem was upgraded past 192M, a "Bad Bridge Mapping" was
> encountered, and using the enterprise kernel resulted in an ACPI error
> reported on top of that. Windoze was oblivious to the problem entirely (I
> don't think it used the BIOS report of mapping of PCI Bridge, but it may
> never have used enough memory). Kernel 2.2, which is not built to trust
the
> BIOS, worked fine even at full 512M.
>
> remember, the video framebuffer is independent of the normal X driver (and
I
> am somewhat curious about the video card), and is supposed to use some
> memory. I find it strange that the normal kernel which uses about 892 or
> 896M of memory ran at 800 but not at 900... If you have interest, it
might
> be instructive to find where exactly one encounters the kernel panic in
terms
> of memory usage.
>
> Civileme
>
>
>
> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
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Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On March 7, 2003 19:33 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:09:20 -0600 (CST) "J.P. Pasnak" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pierre Fortin said: > > > SIGH... I recently noticed that all my users' home directories > > > had 755 permissions... changed this to 700 and now it's back to > > > 755... What's the point of separate userids if msec allows each > > > user to read another's directory?? > > > > > > Will there be a more secure default in 9.1...? If not, then I > > > don't care to continue with msec on my systems: rpm -e msec && > > > chmod 700 /home > > > > msec works exactly as it should, and I doubt they will change the > > defaults because of people not knowing how to use it. > > > > Learn how to edit '/usr/share/msec/perm.x' or create a custom > > permission file with drakperm. > > > > Also, read this article: > > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php > > See also the rant inside my reply to Jack... gratuitously lowering > owner-defined security levels is irresponsible... trying to shift > the blame to the owner with "local rules" doesn't cut it I made > my local rules EXplicitly when I made /home/* 700... Blindly > lowering them, without even asking BTW, is a security violation > IMO OK, I see your point here, but how would you go about implementing this? Would msec have to do comparisons on all directories, increasing completion time and usage? Would it have on/off per directory functionality? I like msec, and have over time worked around it's quirks, so I'd like to see it improved rather than chucked out... - -- Live fast, die young, you're sucking up my bandwidth. - -- J.P. Pasnak, CD CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca Kernel version: 2.4.21-0.13mdk Current Linux uptime: 1 hour 19 minutes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ahQ+BMRgzmzdk08RAm2PAKDBTpYf+QpQFAzlq3/PHMgQ1dZPWQCgu1se E+tXQwGObMMosh+kNwtM5NE= =IQHG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Phone Line Networking Driver - Linksys HPN200 NIC
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:38 am, Kiran wrote: > I found this on Google.. > > http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2002-09/msg00205.html > > Hope that helps > > On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 07:40, Dennis Lyon wrote: > > Does anyone know of a driver to support this card? (I am running MD 9.0) > > And, if so, where would I find the detailed instructions on how to add > > to the kernel? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Dennis Lyon The bcm5700 driver is in kernel 2.4.21pre4 Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
On 08 Mar 2003 08:02:07 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 07:08, Pierre Fortin wrote: > ... > > > buckled tighter than NORAD. > > > > Funny you should mention NORAD... from '64 to '71, I worked in NORAD > > HQ(Canada) deep under the mountain... so I have my own opinions about > > how thight NORAD is... can't say any more... :> > > > > I actually struggled for a while trying to think of something that says > "security" but actually means it... Fort Knox, a bank, WOPR, oh well :-) > ... In this super-connected world, it's hard to give analogies without "walking into it"... LOL > > Just confirms my "matrix" comment above... I could keep myself safe > > in a hermetically sealed box; but would die from lack of oxygen... > > security should *protect* a system, not kill its functionality, or > > worse lower the user's choice of security... My point is that it's > > not up to the distros to define the rules, rather provide the tools > > and some guidelines. If msec was better thought out, it would > > probably be able to let us select security levels on all the > > individual components instead of a matrix of predefined settings. > > the matrix idea requires the administrator to first learn the matrix, > second agree or disagree with it, and third make adjustments in > perm.local. Absence of a matrix requires the administrator to make all > the decisions from scratch. Using the matrix makes your mistakes less > likely and the distro's mistakes more dangerous, not using the matrix > puts you in full control instead of the distro. I have no problem with a matrix; but this is like only being able to select a column in your spreadsheet, not a row or individual cell... I have not been able to find the dependency failure (installed everything related AFAIK) to be able to compile http://kaptain.sourceforge.net; otherwise, I'd probably have coded a visual (1/2 way between the GUI/CLI argument :) interface to msec and other stuff... at my age, I prefer prototyping tools and then let the young 'uns code for speed... :> > You say tomayto, I say tomahto on the theory here, but I do agree that > there are issues with the practice -- especially in levels 4 and 5. I > actually don't find this situation much different than configuring > Tripwire. You can build your own policy file from scratch, or you can > start from one of the templates. If you change policy to a new, less > restrictive template, it isn't going to remember how you used to like > it. All or nothing approach which is the problem IMO. > > > > I would check the msec docs; but I removed msec... begs the > > orthogonal question: why aren't docs, man pages, info pages, etc. > > grouped into(general, sysadmin, security, other_major_grouping} and > > installed separately? That way, a user could make an informed > > decision before installing a package... > > > > that's what the web is for :-) and that's really easy for a newbie on a new install that won't connect... :> > > > Now, in your recommendation user must wipe the disk and start over > > > from scratch. > > > > Huh? I don't follow your logic here... I only asked that msec not > > blindly lower established security -- please elaborate... > > If the msec tool can't lower established security, then the user has no > way to move from level 4 of the matrix to level 3 except by starting > over. Msec can't distinguish between changes you made and changes it > made until the Unix file and permissions system is very different than > it is today (think HFS forks). So if you don't permit msec to make > things more permissive, you can't choose to fix overly restrictive > mistakes in a sweeping, matrix-thinking compliant way. You can certainly > go through the whole system manually tweaking things, but in the > instance of /proc restrictions, resource restrictions and kernel > capabilities that manual tweaking is beyond the average administrator > and more time-consuming than a re-install. Again... spreadsheet: all, column, row, cell... > > > > > In msec's current implementation, user simply alters the security > > > level to 3 and the system heals itself (in theory). > > > > But not in practice... it makes the system more vulnerable than what > > *I* decided on... I'm beginning to think that Mdk should make their > > security tools optional until those tools have been confirmed NOT to > > lower security if installed/used... or worse, cut off its raison > > d'etre in msec >= 4... > > > > If you don't want it to do things for you, then you should remove it and > take responsibility for configuring your own security policy. It's a > tool for helping admins decide and implement policy -- you don't have to > use their matrix, and it isn't going to complain if you replace all the > perm.* files with your own idea of how things ought to be. I have other > things to do, unfortunately, so I pick a level that seems to work okay, > make a few tweaks,
Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:03:07 -0600 "J.P. Pasnak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On March 7, 2003 19:33 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:09:20 -0600 (CST) "J.P. Pasnak" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Pierre Fortin said: > > > > SIGH... I recently noticed that all my users' home directories > > > > had 755 permissions... changed this to 700 and now it's back to > > > > 755... What's the point of separate userids if msec allows each > > > > user to read another's directory?? > > > > > > > > Will there be a more secure default in 9.1...? If not, then I > > > > don't care to continue with msec on my systems: rpm -e msec && > > > > chmod 700 /home > > > > > > msec works exactly as it should, and I doubt they will change the > > > defaults because of people not knowing how to use it. > > > > > > Learn how to edit '/usr/share/msec/perm.x' or create a custom > > > permission file with drakperm. > > > > > > Also, read this article: > > > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php > > > > See also the rant inside my reply to Jack... gratuitously lowering > > owner-defined security levels is irresponsible... trying to shift > > the blame to the owner with "local rules" doesn't cut it I made > > my local rules EXplicitly when I made /home/* 700... Blindly > > lowering them, without even asking BTW, is a security violation > > IMO > > OK, I see your point here, but how would you go about implementing this? > > Would msec have to do comparisons on all directories, increasing > completion time and usage? Would it have on/off per directory > functionality? > > I like msec, and have over time worked around it's quirks, so I'd like > to see it improved rather than chucked out... ^^^ Ditto... my whole point although probably not stated/understood as intended... L8R. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 08:30, Pierre Fortin wrote: ... > > the matrix idea requires the administrator to first learn the matrix, > > second agree or disagree with it, and third make adjustments in > > perm.local. Absence of a matrix requires the administrator to make all > > the decisions from scratch. Using the matrix makes your mistakes less > > likely and the distro's mistakes more dangerous, not using the matrix > > puts you in full control instead of the distro. > > I have no problem with a matrix; but this is like only being able to > select a column in your spreadsheet, not a row or individual cell... > I'm clearly not understanding what you're trying to say then -- I'm not following the spreadsheet comments at all. > I have not been able to find the dependency failure (installed everything > related AFAIK) to be able to compile http://kaptain.sourceforge.net; > otherwise, I'd probably have coded a visual (1/2 way between the GUI/CLI > argument :) interface to msec and other stuff... at my age, I prefer > prototyping tools and then let the young 'uns code for speed... :> > cool gadget :-) ... -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] finding security holes
Great. Now if there just were a way to avoid vewing it in Netscape 7.0. :-/ I'm very sorry!!! I didn't know that i was writting messages in html. I've ... It isn't difficult to modify Outlook Express to disable HTML (which is enabled by default). Tools->Options->Send->Mail Sending Format Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] finding security holes
There is. Use an e-mail program that has filters. On Saturday 08 March 2003 10:08 am, Jim C wrote: > Great. Now if there just were a way to avoid vewing it in Netscape 7.0. > :-/ > > >>I'm very sorry!!! I didn't know that i was writting messages in html. > >> I've > > ... > > > It isn't difficult to modify Outlook Express to disable HTML (which is > > enabled by default). Tools->Options->Send->Mail Sending Format Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] finding security holes
Netscape 7.0 does have filters and I employ them in concert with SpamPal. What it doesn't have is the ability to add: to the end of any file that contains or etc. I don't want to eliminate the mail all together because I do occasionally get html messages I want to view. I just want viewing it turned off by default. engage wrote: There is. Use an e-mail program that has filters. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[Fwd: Re: [expert] finding security holes]
Netscape 7.0 does have filters and I employ them in concert with SpamPal. What it doesn't have is the ability to add: to the end of any file that contains or etc. I don't want to eliminate the mail all together because I do occasionally get html messages I want to view. I just want viewing it turned off by default. engage wrote: > There is. Use an e-mail program that has filters. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] finding security holes]
Whoops. Double wammy! Sorry. Jim C wrote: Netscape 7.0 does have filters and I employ them in concert with Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] finding security holes
On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 5:50 pm, Jim C wrote: > Netscape 7.0 does have filters and I employ them in concert with > SpamPal. What it doesn't have is the ability to add: > to the end of any file that contains > or etc. I don't want to eliminate the mail all together > because I do occasionally get html messages I want to view. I just want > viewing it turned off by default. > > engage wrote: > > There is. Use an e-mail program that has filters. I'm not sure I understand your problem. FWIW, though, KMail displays the plain text version of a dual-mode send if you have the html turned off. Is there nothing similar you can do in Netscape? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then password - but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous state of affairs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] finding security holes
Short form: There is no way provided to turn html off, as far as I can tell, in Netscape 7.0. No check box and no known means of doing so by inserting comments anywhere in the system. I'm not sure I understand your problem. FWIW, though, KMail displays the plain text version of a dual-mode send if you have the html turned off. Is there nothing similar you can do in Netscape? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts
On Friday 07 March 2003 07:16 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > They are both mounted as ide-scsi so that they could be seen my > x-cd-roast., I have given up with that utility, as it could not see > my IDE HD. I use Gcombust here - works great. End of the day message from most experienced users on this list will tell you that when all else fails, burn from the command line. It takes a little bit of getting used to, but its darn near fail-safe. > Can hdparm handle the ide-scsi mountings? The two drives are on my > system as /dev/scd0 (/dev/cdrom, CD-RW) and /dev/scd1(/dev/cdrom2, > DVD/CD). > > Rob Yes, as long as its SCSI emulated and not true SCSI. Do a "cdrecord --scanbus" as root. Your devices should show up under scsibus1 not scsibus0. True SCSI devices show up under scsibus0. Hope this helps! :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. -admintiger From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then password - but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous state of affairs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] www.TrueMajority.com
On Friday 07 March 2003 07:20 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: > Chill guys. He was booted from the list within minutes of having sent > that. > > Blue skies... Todd Hey, can someone get all the names of everyone who has ever been booted from this list, post them on their website, with a funny picture beside each, and a tag telling what happened to them? Then, we can keep that URL handy and show it to offenders so they get the message! A veritable "Hall of Shame" kind of thing... -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and Galeon, but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: > The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser cookie > on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. > > -admintiger > > From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + > > > >On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except > >that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then > > password - > >but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since > >then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I > >can find no way of clearing this list. > > > >Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous > >state > >of affairs. > > > >Anne > >-- > >Registered Linux User No.293302 > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > _ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] finding security holes
On Fri Mar 07, 2003 at 11:49:06PM -0300, Leonardo wrote:
> I'm very sorry!!! I didn't know that i was writting messages in html. I've
> had some problems with my home mdk box so i'm using (unfortunately) outlook.
> I'll try to figure out if there's any option that can disable the html
> format on e-mail messages.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the answer.I can't afford a machine just for firewall...
> I'll try to install chrootkit and some tools that i recently discovered
> (tripwire, nmap and snort). If you, or anyone, knows urls of docs about
> those, please tell me (but i think google is the faster and the best way to
> find docs).
You can also fine a lot of info on http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ including
tutorials, links, and a listing of tools for a variety of purposes.
--
MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts
On Saturday 08 March 2003 01:57 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 07 March 2003 07:16 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > They are both mounted as ide-scsi so that they could be seen my > > x-cd-roast., I have given up with that utility, as it could not see > > my IDE HD. > > I use Gcombust here - works great. End of the day message from most > experienced users on this list will tell you that when all else fails, burn > from the command line. It takes a little bit of getting used to, but its > darn near fail-safe. > > > Can hdparm handle the ide-scsi mountings? The two drives are on my > > system as /dev/scd0 (/dev/cdrom, CD-RW) and /dev/scd1(/dev/cdrom2, > > DVD/CD). > > > > Rob > > Yes, as long as its SCSI emulated and not true SCSI. Do a "cdrecord > --scanbus" as root. Your devices should show up under scsibus1 not > scsibus0. True SCSI devices show up under scsibus0. > > Hope this helps! :-) hey that stuff about scsi bus 1, it should be noted, is only if you have "real" scsi, is it not? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts
On Saturday 08 March 2003 02:51 pm, et wrote: > hey that stuff about scsi bus 1, it should be noted, is only if you have > "real" scsi, is it not? Hey. Hmm, not here or I'm badly mixed up. Here are my "cdrecord --scanbus" results: [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]# cdrecord --scanbus Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'TOSHIBA ' 'DVD-ROM SD-M1401' '1009' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R PX-W124TS' '1.06' Removable CD-ROM 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) * 1,1,0 101) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 100 ' '14.A' Removable Disk 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * Note that my true SCSI devices (Toshiba/Plextor) are on scsibus0, while my IDE ZIP drive, SCSI emulated, is on scsibus1. I'm assuming here (dangerous!) that SCSI emulated devices would go on scsibus1. Can anyone else confirm this? Thanks! -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] anyone know of a good hardware diagnostics tool for linux?
Something which would test motherboard (also bios and memory addressing) related problems? I used memtest86 but if I understood it right it will just test the memory itself but not the real way an operating system handles it. Best regards, Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] kmsgdump && ksymoops result for the 1GB RAM problem in enterprise kernel
Hi guys, You remember my problem with 1GB of memory on my A7V8X card, vga=788 and kernel compiled with high mem support (2.4.21-0.13mdk enterprise) combination ending in a kernel oops. I did my best to learn about tracing stuff in linux / linux kernel and I patched the kernel with the kmsgdump and also installed ksymoops. I set up kmsgdump to do an automatic dump on floppy in case of kernel oops. I attached the resulting messages.txt and also the oopsresults.txt as the result of running ksymoops on the messages.txt There is a warning in it which says results might not be reliable because of some module mismatch, but it is ok. The oops had nothing to do with that module. So make abstraction of it. The pwcx-i386 is compiled for some other version but it works and I need it for my webcam. It appears in the result of the ksymoops but at the moment it crashes (right at boot) it doesn't even get to the point where it has anything to do with the modules. Can anyone tell me if any kernel guru can understand any of these results? Is there a specific place where I must send the results for interpretation? If anyone needs more info please don't hesitate to contact me by email. Best regards, Adrian P.S. I also added the ioremap.c and the ioremap.s (compiled for debugging) so maybe people would have all the info in order to understand what happens. :) <4>Linux version 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk)) #6 SMP Sat Mar 8 19:25:59 CET 2003 <6>BIOS-provided physical RAM map: <4> BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) <4> BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: 0010 - 3fffc000 (usable) <4> BIOS-e820: 3fffc000 - 3000 (ACPI data) <4> BIOS-e820: 3000 - 4000 (ACPI NVS) <4> BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: - 0001 (reserved) <5>127MB HIGHMEM available. <5>896MB LOWMEM available. <7>ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0002000 <4>On node 0 totalpages: 262140 <4>zone(0): 4096 pages. <4>zone(1): 225280 pages. <4>zone(2): 32764 pages. <4>Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=2421-13custom ro root=309 devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off pci=biosirq quiet <6>ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi <4>Found and enabled local APIC! <6>Initializing CPU#0 <4>Detected 2000.121 MHz processor. <4>Console: colour dummy device 80x25 <4>Calibrating delay loop... 3984.58 BogoMIPS <6>Memory: 1032408k/1048560k available (1587k kernel code, 15764k reserved, 1136k data, 156k init, 131056k highmem) <6>Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) <6>Inode cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) <6>Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) <4>Buffer-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) <4>Page-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) <6>CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) <6>CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line) <6>Intel machine check architecture supported. <6>Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. <7>CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <7>CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <6>Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. <6>Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. <6>Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. <4>POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX <4>mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <4>mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel <6>CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) <6>CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line) <6>Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. <7>CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <7>CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <4>CPU0: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2400+ stepping 01 <4>per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 731.38 usecs. <5>SMP motherboard not detected. <4>enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 <4>ESR value before enabling vector: <4>ESR value after enabling vector: <4>Using local APIC timer interrupts. <4>calibrating APIC timer ... <4>. CPU clock speed is 1999.9871 MHz. <4>. host bus clock speed is 266.6649 MHz. <4>cpu: 0, clocks: 249, slice: 124 <4>CPU0 <4>Waiting on wait_init_idle (map = 0x0) <4>All processors have done init_idle <6>ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030122 <6>ACPI: Disabled via command line (acpi=off) <6>PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf1720, last bus=1 <6>PCI: Using configuration type 1 <6>PCI: Probing PCI hardware <4>PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries <4>PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) <6>PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/3177] at 00:11.0 <6>isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... <6>isapnp: No Plug & Play device found <6>Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 <6>Based upon Swansea Univers
Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:55:24 -0500 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that my true SCSI devices (Toshiba/Plextor) are on scsibus0, > while my IDE ZIP drive, SCSI emulated, is on scsibus1. I'm assuming > here (dangerous!) that SCSI emulated devices would go on scsibus1. > > Can anyone else confirm this? Thanks! scsibus0 is the listing for all devices on that ide channel which have scsi emulation Your cdrom and cdrw are both on the same channel scsibus1 gives the same info But for a 2nd ide channel Your zip is on a different channel. All listings are as they should be. Charles -- No combat ready unit has ever passed inspection -- Murphy's Military Laws n°64 - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
Anne In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security ->Passwords -> Manage Passwords Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it Darcy Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and Galeon, but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. -admintiger From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then password - but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous state of affairs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Apache setup
I got this one. Turns out that the default is no tilde (i.e. the "~" character) in the userid and permissions have to be ??5 on public_html, all subdirectories and the directory below it (i.e. the users home directory). So to access dudes website, you enter: http://www.myserver.net/dude/index.html There MUST be an index.html as the system by default does not display files. Another issue is caps. I have a user whith a capitol letter in her name and I believe that web addresses are caseless. Getting around this was easy enough. I just made the link "audrey" instead of "Audrey". Jim C wrote: Once quite a while ago I setup apache on my local net for develpment reasons. I need to do that again but I can't remmeber what it was I did to make public_html in the user directories available using links. I've no intention of trying to run it publicly as I know that this would require much more study to do so safely. I've been unable to clarify this issue using Google or the documentation from apache. I believe this issue is a (slightly) different one from just establishing UserDir, etc. and as I recall I had a devil of a time figureing it out last time also. Here's what I've got for permissions. [EMAIL PROTECTED] public_html]# ls -l / | grep lcl drwxr-xr-x3 root root 72 Jan 21 00:03 lclusr/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] public_html]# ls -l /lclusr/ total 2 drwxr-xr-x 25 jim jim 1832 Mar 7 23:43 jim/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] public_html]# ls -l /lclusr/jim/ | grep public_htmldrwxr-xr-x2 jim jim48 Mar 7 23:42 public_html/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] public_html]# pwd /lclusr/jim/public_html ...and here are the links. Note that I've tried it with both root ownership of the link and user ownership with no dice. Works fine (I get the standard apache base) [EMAIL PROTECTED] html]# pwd /var/www/html [EMAIL PROTECTED] html]# ls -l total 21 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 320 Mar 8 00:00 addon-modules/ -rw-r--r--1 root root 5575 Sep 6 18:58 index.shtml lrwxrwxrwx1 jcolling dusers 26 Mar 8 00:39 jcolling -> /home/jcolling/public_html/ lrwxrwxrwx1 jim jim23 Mar 8 00:49 jim -> /lclusr/jim/public_html/ lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 43 Jan 21 00:28 manual -> ../../../usr/share/doc/apache-manual-1.3.26/ -rw-r--r--1 root root 96 Mar 8 00:36 newindex.html -rw-r--r--1 root root 427 Sep 6 18:58 optim.html -rw-r--r--1 root root 557 Sep 6 18:58 platform.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] html]# Is there something I am going to have to set within the httpd configs? I don't remember having to do this last time. Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone know of a good hardware diagnostics tool for linux?
On Saturday March 8 2003 01:55 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > Something which would test motherboard (also bios and memory > addressing) related problems? > I used memtest86 but if I understood it right it will just test the > memory itself but not the real way an operating system handles it. > > Best regards, > Adrian o memtest86 should be the first step BUT, no software diag can separate ram from the rest of the system for testing. o mprime (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm) A better test of cpu/cache/ram/motherboard/PSU than memtest. Run the torture test. (mprime -m, #17 from the menu). o Cpuburn (http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/) Run the modules appropriate for your system and cpu. Mandrake also has an rpm for it. If you can run cpuburn for about an hour without failing, your system should be bulletproof. Unless you're sure your case and cpu cooling is adequate, take the diag's in the above order. Otherwise go right to cpuburn. The acid test for cpu/cache/ram/PSU/motherboards. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
It's not there - but then it didn't get as far as making a password - it stored the login name and password as one, without a password. I have never selected 'remember password' for webmin. I'm at a loss where to look next. Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 9:04 pm, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote: > Anne > In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved > passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security > ->Passwords -> Manage Passwords > Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it > > Darcy > > Anne Wilson wrote: > >Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and Galeon, > > but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? > > > >Anne > > > >On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: > >>The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser > >> cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. > >> > >>-admintiger > >> > >>From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? > >>>Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + > >>> > >>>On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - > >>> except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, > >>> then password - > >>>but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever > >>> since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password > >>> entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. > >>> > >>>Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous > >>>state > >>>of affairs. > >>> > >>>Anne > >>>-- > >>>Registered Linux User No.293302 > >>> > >>> > >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > >> > >>_ > >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX
Not to disagree with you Todd, but when you say "They get their billion..." are you referring to SCO or the lawyers (not that it makes much difference)? :) Way I see it, there are a couple of questions. Q1) Was IBM entitled to use the code? A1) Yes, that is not part of the litigation. Q2) Was IBM entitled to release said code under the GPL? A2) Maybe, that's what the courts will now decide. Q3) What are the ramifications for Linux? A3) Could be as simple as said code must be removed - as with most things, there are several implementations that are submitted for the kernel, so a different one might need to be chosen. Q4) If IBM was not entitled to release said code, what are the damages? A4) That's the tricky part, since SCO Unix's value has increased along with the work IBM did with Linux, it's hard to argue damages (especially if the offending code is removed). Remember, most of the code is in the 2.5 Kernel which isn't officially released yet. Finally, Q5) What are the long term ramifications? A5) IBM may have to pay some money, Linux will continue to grow (although with some changed modules), SCO will continue to go down the tubes and most importantly, the lawyers will laugh all the way to the bank. If I were a shareholder of SCO I think I would counter-sue the CEO and board of directors for squandering resources on this lawsuit instead of looking at ways to repair the company. Or, if SCO is successful, and they receive billions, it might be time to liquidate the company so it goes to the shareholders instead of the few at the top. Just my two cents and remember, IANAL! Joeb On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:08:40 -0800 Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jack Coates wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:55:41AM -0800 : > > > > SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual > > > property infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux. > > They are of course shooting themselves with this action... however, I > > Here's the point that I think all of you are not getting. They don't > *CARE* if they shoot themselves in the foot. They get their billion > dollars, get out of town, and live on the small island they just > bought. They are in it solely for the money, consumers be damned. > > Blue skies... Todd > - -- > | MandrakeSoft USA | Security is like an onion. It's made | > | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | made up of several layers and makes | > | http://www.mandrakelinux.com | you cry. --Howard Chu| > Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21-0.12mdk > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+aUKYlp7v05cW2woRAjKqAKCWcD0Cpg0b0KhDs4K6cMhflT9IcACdHmI8 > twzHFdaScAGX3FQmXVw9YRI= > =4fJV > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
If you realy want it gone export your addressbook and bookmarks and e-mail to some othe folder and then delete the .mozilla folder in your home dir. Ralph :-) Anne Wilson wrote: It's not there - but then it didn't get as far as making a password - it stored the login name and password as one, without a password. I have never selected 'remember password' for webmin. I'm at a loss where to look next. Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 9:04 pm, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote: Anne In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security ->Passwords -> Manage Passwords Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it Darcy Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and Galeon, but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. -admintiger From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then password - but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous state of affairs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX
On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:53 pm, Joeb wrote: > Not to disagree with you Todd, but when you say "They get their billion..." > are you referring to SCO or the lawyers (not that it makes much > difference)? :) > > Way I see it, there are a couple of questions. Q1) Was IBM entitled to use > the code? A1) Yes, that is not part of the litigation. Q2) Was IBM > entitled to release said code under the GPL? A2) Maybe, that's what the > courts will now decide. Q3) What are the ramifications for Linux? A3) > Could be as simple as said code must be removed - as with most things, > there are several implementations that are submitted for the kernel, so a > different one might need to be chosen. Q4) If IBM was not entitled to > release said code, what are the damages? A4) That's the tricky part, since > SCO Unix's value has increased along with the work IBM did with Linux, it's > hard to argue damages (especially if the offending code is removed). > Remember, most of the code is in the 2.5 Kernel which isn't officially > released yet. Finally, Q5) What are the long term ramifications? A5) IBM > may have to pay some money, Linux will continue to grow (although with some > changed modules), SCO will continue to go down the tubes and most > importantly, the lawyers will laugh all the way to the bank. > The suit doesn;t just talk about code, but methods and concepts as well. If not one single piece of UNIX source code ended up in Linux, they are trying to say that the way it works still infringes on it's IP. I find that quite specious. The way I read your response, you seem to assume that code actually made it into the kernel. This has only been alleged, not proven. The suit also refers to Linux capability today in production. It would seem to me that if any of this were true, but restricted to the 2.5 kernel, then damages would be significantly less since it is not in widespread use. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
I don't know about Netscape or Mozilla. However, MS Internet Explorer saves cookies in two different folders. One is: C:\Documents and Settings\(UserName)\Cookies\ The other is: C:\Documents and Settings\(UserName)\Local Settings\Temp\Temporary Internet Files\ If the Remember Password option is checked, a username & password cookie is saved in the \Temporary Internet Files\ folder. The contents of that folder are not deleted when a user selects "Delete Cookies" from the browser, so that usernames and passwords are not deleted. Cookies saved there must be deleted manually. Other browsers probably save username & password cookies separately form ordinary cookies for the same reason. However, I can't tell you exactly where they are saved by other browsers. -admintiger From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:44:27 + It's not there - but then it didn't get as far as making a password - it stored the login name and password as one, without a password. I have never selected 'remember password' for webmin. I'm at a loss where to look next. Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 9:04 pm, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote: > Anne > In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved > passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security > ->Passwords -> Manage Passwords > Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it > > Darcy > > Anne Wilson wrote: > >Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and Galeon, > > but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? > > > >Anne > > > >On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: > >>The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser > >> cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. > >> > >>-admintiger > >> > >>From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? > >>>Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + > >>> > >>>On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - > >>> except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, > >>> then password - > >>>but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever > >>> since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password > >>> entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. > >>> > >>>Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous > >>>state > >>>of affairs. > >>> > >>>Anne > >>>-- > >>>Registered Linux User No.293302 > >>> > >>> > >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > >> > >>_ > >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kmsgdump && ksymoops result for the 1GB RAM problem in enterprise kernel
Hi Adrian, damn - some people really want to know it in detail :) Congrats. Like people digging to find the problems :) From some of the messages, civilme seems to be right with what the kernel relies on the BIOS stuff for memory addressing - and when trying to remap some pages - it seems to overwrites some stuff it shouldn't - hence the message remap area messages etc. I could be totally wrong - but it makes sense to me ... :) Honestly - it's up to the kernel-Folks to find the problem from here on :) My knowledge stops there ! Cheers Joerg Adrian Golumbovici wrote: [...] Code; c011d100 <_EIP>: Code; c011d100<= 0: 0f 0b ud2a <= Code; c011d102 2: 49dec%ecx Code; c011d103 3: 00 b8 e0 29 c0 f0 add%bh,0xf0c029e0(%eax) Code; c011d109 9: fe 0d 8c 6d 36 c0 decb 0xc0366d8c Code; c011d10f f: 0f 88 c9 02 00 00 js 2de <_EIP+0x2de> <4> <0>Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! 1 warning issued. Results may not be reliable. -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice & Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
But why would webmin write to Mozilla? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 10:01 pm, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: > If you realy want it gone export your addressbook and bookmarks and > e-mail to some othe folder and then delete the .mozilla folder in your > home dir. > > Ralph :-) > > Anne Wilson wrote: > >It's not there - but then it didn't get as far as making a password - it > >stored the login name and password as one, without a password. I have > > never selected 'remember password' for webmin. I'm at a loss where to > > look next. > > > >Anne > > > >On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 9:04 pm, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote: > >>Anne > >>In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved > >>passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security > >>->Passwords -> Manage Passwords > >>Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it > >> > >>Darcy > >> > >>Anne Wilson wrote: > >>>Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and > >>> Galeon, but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? > >>> > >>>Anne > >>> > >>>On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: > The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser > cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. > > -admintiger > > From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + > > > >On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - > >except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, > >then password - > >but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever > >since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password > >entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. > > > >Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a > > dangerous state > >of affairs. > > > >Anne > >-- > >Registered Linux User No.293302 > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > _ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 18:27, Bob Brickey wrote: > I don't know about Netscape or Mozilla. However, MS Internet Explorer saves > cookies in two different folders. In Netscape: Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Cookies->Manage Stored Cookies. I guess it is the same in Mozilla. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 18:47, Anne Wilson wrote: > But why would webmin write to Mozilla? > > Anne It might be that you enabled "Remember Login". Locate the cookie named localhost:1 (or localhost.localdomain:1000) and delete it. HTH -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
Webmin uses Konqueror. I have looked through all the cookies in Konq, and can find nothing that seems to be related to webmin. I have never allowed it to 'save password'. Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 10:27 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: > I don't know about Netscape or Mozilla. However, MS Internet Explorer > saves cookies in two different folders. > > One is: > C:\Documents and Settings\(UserName)\Cookies\ > > The other is: > C:\Documents and Settings\(UserName)\Local Settings\Temp\Temporary Internet > Files\ > > If the Remember Password option is checked, a username & password cookie is > saved in the \Temporary Internet Files\ folder. The contents of that > folder are not deleted when a user selects "Delete Cookies" from the > browser, so that usernames and passwords are not deleted. Cookies saved > there must be deleted manually. > > Other browsers probably save username & password cookies separately form > ordinary cookies for the same reason. However, I can't tell you exactly > where they are saved by other browsers. > > -admintiger > > From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:44:27 + > > > >It's not there - but then it didn't get as far as making a password - it > >stored the login name and password as one, without a password. I have > >never > >selected 'remember password' for webmin. I'm at a loss where to look > > next. > > > >Anne > > > >On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 9:04 pm, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote: > > > Anne > > > In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved > > > passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security > > > ->Passwords -> Manage Passwords > > > Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it > > > > > > Darcy > > > > > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > >Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and > > > >Galeon, > > > > > > but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? > > > > > > > >Anne > > > > > > > >On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: > > > >>The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser > > > >> cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. > > > >> > > > >>-admintiger > > > >> > > > >>From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? > > > >>>Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + > > > >>> > > > >>>On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - > > > >>> except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then > > > >>> tab, then password - > > > >>>but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever > > > >>> since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the > > > >root+password > > > > > >>> entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. > > > >>> > > > >>>Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a > > > >dangerous > > > > > >>>state > > > >>>of affairs. > > > >>> > > > >>>Anne > > > >>>-- > > > >>>Registered Linux User No.293302 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > >> > > > >>_ > > > >>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > > >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > >-- > >Registered Linux User No.293302 > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > _ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 10:56 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 18:47, Anne Wilson wrote: > > But why would webmin write to Mozilla? > > > > Anne > > It might be that you enabled "Remember Login". Definitely not > > Locate the cookie named localhost:1 (or localhost.localdomain:1000) > and delete it. > I can find no cookie that could possibly be related to webmin. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 10:52 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 18:27, Bob Brickey wrote: > > I don't know about Netscape or Mozilla. However, MS Internet Explorer > > saves cookies in two different folders. > > In Netscape: > Edit->Preferences->Privacy & Security->Cookies->Manage Stored Cookies. > > I guess it is the same in Mozilla. Webmin uses Konqueror. It is not stored as any cookie that I can see. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Sunday 09 March 2003 00:00, Anne Wilson wrote: > Webmin uses Konqueror. It is not stored as any cookie that I can see. > > Anne What does that mean ? You have only used konquerror for webmin and now mozilla knows you login name for webmin ? Kind of strange , isn't it ? -- Regards Steffen counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:11:23 -0500 Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:53 pm, Joeb wrote: > > Not to disagree with you Todd, but when you say "They get their billion..." > > are you referring to SCO or the lawyers (not that it makes much > > difference)? :) > > > > Way I see it, there are a couple of questions. Q1) Was IBM entitled to use > > the code? A1) Yes, that is not part of the litigation. Q2) Was IBM > > entitled to release said code under the GPL? A2) Maybe, that's what the > > courts will now decide. Q3) What are the ramifications for Linux? A3) > > Could be as simple as said code must be removed - as with most things, > > there are several implementations that are submitted for the kernel, so a > > different one might need to be chosen. Q4) If IBM was not entitled to > > release said code, what are the damages? A4) That's the tricky part, since > > SCO Unix's value has increased along with the work IBM did with Linux, it's > > hard to argue damages (especially if the offending code is removed). > > Remember, most of the code is in the 2.5 Kernel which isn't officially > > released yet. Finally, Q5) What are the long term ramifications? A5) IBM > > may have to pay some money, Linux will continue to grow (although with some > > changed modules), SCO will continue to go down the tubes and most > > importantly, the lawyers will laugh all the way to the bank. > > > The suit doesn;t just talk about code, but methods and concepts as well. If > not one single piece of UNIX source code ended up in Linux, they are trying > to say that the way it works still infringes on it's IP. I find that quite > specious. > > The way I read your response, you seem to assume that code actually made it > into the kernel. This has only been alleged, not proven. The suit also > refers to Linux capability today in production. It would seem to me that if > any of this were true, but restricted to the 2.5 kernel, then damages would > be significantly less since it is not in widespread use. > > -- > Greg > > I agree it is a bold leap to say that methods and concepts are infringed, because even with the work that IBM has contributed, the methods and concepts were there before IBM's participation. Yes, the 2.4 kernel has better memory management than the 2.2 kernel, but memory management was still part of the 2.2 kernel (that's just for example, I don't know if SCO is saying memory management is one of the IP issues). You are correct in the way you are reading my response in that I am assuming it deals with the kernel (as that is the only part that is actually "Linux" and other applications normally included in distributions haven't been mentioned). I was under the impression that most of IBM's contributions were made after the 2.4 kernel was released, but I could easily be mistaken. Even so, if SCO is found to be correct, then the current 2.4.x kernel would be tainted. That still is not a show stopper as I said in my earlier post, for just about everything in the kernel, many submissions are made. Worst case for the kernel would be that 2.6 would be delayed to roll back tainted code and replaced with alternative "clean" code. I know that isn't a trivial task, but what it actually means is that even with a worst case, SCO wins all, Linux, as we know it would still survive (and SCO would still be going down the tubes). Again, IANAL, but another issue, particularly if SCO claims code further back than 1995 is tainted (when they bought UNIX back from Novell) is why they didn't take issue with the IP rights then. Since, they had a Linux distribution, they were fully aware of what was going on inside of it (or should have been). I have been told that one possible outcome of this suit is the possibility that the courts could say, that if you don't take action to enforce IP when it is first known to be misused, you implicitly allow it's use. Actually, this argument could hold for code even after 1995. If so, then SCO's suit boils down to they are upset that IBM broke a contract with them. But, they didn't sue for breach of contract, they sued for lost IP. One would have to ask why and the answer is how do you award damages on a speculative R&D contract when there isn't any market shown to exist? You can't. IP on the other hand, you can show damages. But, as I stated earlier, SCO's market value has grown right along with the growth of Linux, so where is the damage? Now for the really interesting part. Let's assume that SCO is correct and IBM has tainted linux with IP that they did not own. Isn't that same tainted code in United Linux which SCO is part of? So what does SCO do now? They could allow United Linux to use the code with a restricted, non-open license, but if it is tied to the GPL'd kernel, then you couldn't release your own kernel with a more restrictive license than the original kernel had, could you? So, if SCO
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 19:16, Steffen Barszus wrote: > On Sunday 09 March 2003 00:00, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Webmin uses Konqueror. It is not stored as any cookie that I can see. > > > > Anne > > What does that mean ? > You have only used konquerror for webmin and now mozilla knows you login name > for webmin ? Kind of strange , isn't it ? Not in mine. Two different sets of cookies. I just did the same with Konqueror. Settings->Configure Konqueror->Cookies->Management. Delete in there localhost:1 or localhost.localdomain:1 -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > Webmin uses Konqueror. I have looked through all the cookies in Konq, and > can find nothing that seems to be related to webmin. I have never allowed > it to 'save password'. > I thought webmin used whatever browser I used to access it. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 08:02, Jack Coates wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 07:08, Pierre Fortin wrote: > ... > > > buckled tighter than NORAD. > > > > Funny you should mention NORAD... from '64 to '71, I worked in NORAD HQ > > (Canada) deep under the mountain... so I have my own opinions about how > > thight NORAD is... can't say any more... :> > > > > I actually struggled for a while trying to think of something that says > "security" but actually means it... Fort Knox, a bank, WOPR, oh well :-) Virgin? > ... > > Just confirms my "matrix" comment above... I could keep myself safe in a > > hermetically sealed box; but would die from lack of oxygen... security > > should *protect* a system, not kill its functionality, or worse lower the > > user's choice of security... My point is that it's not up to the distros > > to define the rules, rather provide the tools and some guidelines. If > > msec was better thought out, it would probably be able to let us select > > security levels on all the individual components instead of a matrix of > > predefined settings. > > the matrix idea requires the administrator to first learn the matrix, > second agree or disagree with it, and third make adjustments in > perm.local. Absence of a matrix requires the administrator to make all > the decisions from scratch. Using the matrix makes your mistakes less > likely and the distro's mistakes more dangerous, not using the matrix > puts you in full control instead of the distro. > > You say tomayto, I say tomahto on the theory here, but I do agree that > there are issues with the practice -- especially in levels 4 and 5. I > actually don't find this situation much different than configuring > Tripwire. You can build your own policy file from scratch, or you can > start from one of the templates. If you change policy to a new, less > restrictive template, it isn't going to remember how you used to like > it. > > > > > I would check the msec docs; but I removed msec... begs the orthogonal > > question: why aren't docs, man pages, info pages, etc. grouped into > > (general, sysadmin, security, other_major_grouping} and installed > > separately? That way, a user could make an informed decision before > > installing a package... > > > > that's what the web is for :-) > > > > Now, in your recommendation user must wipe the disk and start over from > > > scratch. > > > > Huh? I don't follow your logic here... I only asked that msec not > > blindly lower established security -- please elaborate... > > If the msec tool can't lower established security, then the user has no > way to move from level 4 of the matrix to level 3 except by starting > over. Msec can't distinguish between changes you made and changes it > made until the Unix file and permissions system is very different than > it is today (think HFS forks). So if you don't permit msec to make > things more permissive, you can't choose to fix overly restrictive > mistakes in a sweeping, matrix-thinking compliant way. You can certainly > go through the whole system manually tweaking things, but in the > instance of /proc restrictions, resource restrictions and kernel > capabilities that manual tweaking is beyond the average administrator > and more time-consuming than a re-install. > > > > > > In msec's current implementation, user simply alters the security level > > > to 3 and the system heals itself (in theory). > > > > But not in practice... it makes the system more vulnerable than what *I* > > decided on... I'm beginning to think that Mdk should make their security > > tools optional until those tools have been confirmed NOT to lower security > > if installed/used... or worse, cut off its raison d'etre in msec >= 4... > > > > If you don't want it to do things for you, then you should remove it and > take responsibility for configuring your own security policy. It's a > tool for helping admins decide and implement policy -- you don't have to > use their matrix, and it isn't going to complain if you replace all the > perm.* files with your own idea of how things ought to be. I have other > things to do, unfortunately, so I pick a level that seems to work okay, > make a few tweaks, nmap and nessus it, then keep up with the patches. > Obviously you do something of the same nature because you're on Mandrake > instead of a DIY distro like Slackware or LFS, right? To call for > removal of a tool because you don't like it seems a little extreme > (though I'm sure I've been guilty of it too). > > > I know this sounds a little 'off the wall'; but I still think msec is > > ill-conceived... my 8.1 page on msec showed that the core idea is a > > matrix and the system's security relies on the matrix being completely > > filled in (http://pfortin.com/Linux/permresults.shtml) -- I don't see how > > what I'm suggesting could be implemented in the current incantation, > > beyond bad hacks... time for a new tool...? > > > > I think that's being extreme, see
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
In webmin there is a setting to rember the password if you turned this on just change the root user's password and go to webmin and when prompted for the new password uncheck the "Always Rember Password" box. If this is the case (Webmin I mean) youshould not let webmin run all the time anyway. You should ssh into the server and type "service webmin start" and when done "service webmin stop" and logout of the server leaving webmin NOT running. Ralph Anne Wilson wrote: But why would webmin write to Mozilla? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 10:01 pm, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: If you realy want it gone export your addressbook and bookmarks and e-mail to some othe folder and then delete the .mozilla folder in your home dir. Ralph :-) Anne Wilson wrote: It's not there - but then it didn't get as far as making a password - it stored the login name and password as one, without a password. I have never selected 'remember password' for webmin. I'm at a loss where to look next. Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 9:04 pm, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote: Anne In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security ->Passwords -> Manage Passwords Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it Darcy Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and Galeon, but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. -admintiger From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then password - but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous state of affairs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts
Dark, With 4 versions of Linux on one box with a ide-scsi burner... each one puts that ONE, LONE, DEVICE, I'd say if it works it's in the right place don't worry about it *grin* James On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 11:55, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Saturday 08 March 2003 02:51 pm, et wrote: > > > hey that stuff about scsi bus 1, it should be noted, is only if you have > > "real" scsi, is it not? > > Hey. > > Hmm, not here or I'm badly mixed up. Here are my "cdrecord --scanbus" results: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]# cdrecord --scanbus > Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg > Schilling > Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) 'TOSHIBA ' 'DVD-ROM SD-M1401' '1009' Removable CD-ROM > 0,1,0 1) * > 0,2,0 2) * > 0,3,0 3) * > 0,4,0 4) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R PX-W124TS' '1.06' Removable CD-ROM > 0,5,0 5) * > 0,6,0 6) * > 0,7,0 7) * > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) * > 1,1,0 101) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 100 ' '14.A' Removable Disk > 1,2,0 102) * > 1,3,0 103) * > 1,4,0 104) * > 1,5,0 105) * > 1,6,0 106) * > 1,7,0 107) * > > Note that my true SCSI devices (Toshiba/Plextor) are on scsibus0, while my IDE > ZIP drive, SCSI emulated, is on scsibus1. I'm assuming here (dangerous!) that > SCSI emulated devices would go on scsibus1. > > Can anyone else confirm this? Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
Sorry for posting to my own post. If that doesn't work. There is a section in Webmin "Webmin Configuration -> Authentacation" make sure that "Always require username and password" is checked. Ralph Ralph Crongeyer wrote: In webmin there is a setting to rember the password if you turned this on just change the root user's password and go to webmin and when prompted for the new password uncheck the "Always Rember Password" box. If this is the case (Webmin I mean) youshould not let webmin run all the time anyway. You should ssh into the server and type "service webmin start" and when done "service webmin stop" and logout of the server leaving webmin NOT running. Ralph Anne Wilson wrote: But why would webmin write to Mozilla? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 10:01 pm, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: If you realy want it gone export your addressbook and bookmarks and e-mail to some othe folder and then delete the .mozilla folder in your home dir. Ralph :-) Anne Wilson wrote: It's not there - but then it didn't get as far as making a password - it stored the login name and password as one, without a password. I have never selected 'remember password' for webmin. I'm at a loss where to look next. Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 9:04 pm, Darcy Brodie, CJL wrote: Anne In Netscape (and Mozilla, I believe), you can delete the saved passwords by going into Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &Security ->Passwords -> Manage Passwords Locate the password that you want to delete, and delete it Darcy Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks for the reply. I've checked cookies on Konq, Netscape and Galeon, but can't find it. Could you give me any more pointers? Anne On Saturday 08 Mar 2003 6:59 pm, Bob Brickey wrote: The webmin login user name and password have been saved in a browser cookie on the workstation computer. Delete the cookie. -admintiger From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip? Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:46:48 + On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then password - but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I can find no way of clearing this list. Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous state of affairs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RPM database corruption [was [expert] the long history ofkylix3 and mdk9 :)]
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 05:52, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Luca Olivetti wrote: > > >> I think that in some cases the rpm database does not clean up properly > >> when you kill an rpm command in progress. I must say that I have seen > >> this problem only with the rpm-system shipped with Mandrake 9.0. > > > > > > Nope, I saw this also on 8.2 (in fact I have a cd writer server running > > 8.2 where rpm freaked out and I didn't bother to recover the database, I > > will just reinstall if I need to update something). > > And, btw, these corruption were while normal rpm install/upgrade, no > interruption whatsoever (the last one a week ago, and the rebuilddb > missed the upgraded package, ie. neither the old nor the new version was > in the database). > > Bye Perhaps, to my thinking at least, the greatest advantage of urpmi over apt-get is the avoidance of dependency storms that yield a totally unstable box. I've seen this with Debian, yet in MDK I've upgraded over 100 rpms via urpmi and been able to keep it running without a hitch. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 14:46, Anne Wilson wrote: > On one occasion I logged in to webmin whilst otherwise distracted - except > that I made a very stupid mistake. I typed 'root', then tab, then password - > but webmin login doesn't recognise tabbing to the next field. Ever since > then as soon as I type 'r' I am shown root and the root+password entry. I > can find no way of clearing this list. > > Can anyone help? It must be possible, since it's obviously a dangerous state > of affairs. > > Anne Anne: I just recreated your problem: I entered the userid and password in the user id box. Even when the login was unsuccessful, Konqueror saved that userid which shows the password. You can disable the entire feature in Settings->Configure Konqueror->Konqueror Browser. Set the Maximum completions value to 1. Login a couple of times and that's it. Your useridpassword thing will disappear. HTH -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] anyone know of a good hardware diagnostics tool forlinux?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 13:27, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Saturday March 8 2003 01:55 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > > Something which would test motherboard (also bios and memory > > addressing) related problems? > > I used memtest86 but if I understood it right it will just test the > > memory itself but not the real way an operating system handles it. > > > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > o memtest86 should be the first step BUT, no software diag can > separate ram from the rest of the system for testing. > > o mprime (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm) A better test of > cpu/cache/ram/motherboard/PSU than memtest. Run the torture test. > (mprime -m, #17 from the menu). > > o Cpuburn (http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/) Run the modules > appropriate for your system and cpu. Mandrake also has an rpm for it. > If you can run cpuburn for about an hour without failing, your system > should be bulletproof. > >Unless you're sure your case and cpu cooling is adequate, take the > diag's in the above order. Otherwise go right to cpuburn. The acid > test for cpu/cache/ram/PSU/motherboards. Also try bonnie it' comes with MDK... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to mend a stupid slip?
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 19:49, Adolfo Bello wrote: > Anne: > > I just recreated your problem: I entered the userid and password in the > user id box. Even when the login was unsuccessful, Konqueror saved that > userid which shows the password. > > You can disable the entire feature in Settings->Configure > Konqueror->Konqueror Browser. Set the Maximum completions value to 1. > > Login a couple of times and that's it. Your useridpassword thing will > disappear. > > HTH Forgot something: after doing that you can set back the Maximum completion to the original value. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?
On 08 Mar 2003 08:47:28 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 08:30, Pierre Fortin wrote: > ... > > > the matrix idea requires the administrator to first learn the > > > matrix, second agree or disagree with it, and third make adjustments > > > in perm.local. Absence of a matrix requires the administrator to > > > make all the decisions from scratch. Using the matrix makes your > > > mistakes less likely and the distro's mistakes more dangerous, not > > > using the matrix puts you in full control instead of the distro. > > > > I have no problem with a matrix; but this is like only being able to > > select a column in your spreadsheet, not a row or individual cell... > > > > I'm clearly not understanding what you're trying to say then -- I'm not > following the spreadsheet comments at all. msec is a matrix, like a s/s... the problem is that only one column (level) is active at a time... moving from one level to another is like moving between columns... only way to "shift cells" on a per row basis is to write Python code... Look at it another way... imagine a webmin page with N columns (5 initially) and M rows (one per msec rule)... some rules can be handled by selecting a level with a radio button; others might use an option list. Others might need text input... whatever... the idea is that each row (function/rule) can individually be customized, rather than the present "throw the master switch to position N" we have now... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
> I am interested. Of course I am. I want to find out if it really is a kernel > or mobo problem. Unless I can prove that my mobo is not working right I have Well - suggestions: join the kernel hackers mailing list, or just read the archives. Try the instructions in the bug tracking documents under /usr/src/linux in the kernel source code. You mentioned ksymopps and saving the results of a kernel oops. I don't know if the people on the expert list can figure out what is wrong - kernel hacking is beyond my abilities ;(. If the problem is clearly documented and repeatable, and not a hardware issue, the kernel hackers might be able to figure it out. You also may want to try different kernels other than the stock Mandrake standard or enterprise kernels - in other words are the Mandrake kernels problematic or is it a problem with other kernels as well? But realistically the kernel mailing list is a better repository for those attachments than the expert list. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] iptables & checksum issues
I am a pretty fair newbie in internet security issues, use of iptables and so forth. But I already have been attacked by some variant of a worm that attacked certain ports on my system, slowing my internet connection etc. I noticed before certain udp checksom problems when that happened, and at the time (8.2) installed portsentry. Anyhow, in grepping my last month's worth of logs, I noticed a few liens like: Feb 3 14:38:35 m206-157 kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From 210.241.254.126:1812 to 198.144.206.157:1812 ulen 49 Feb 4 21:33:15 m206-157 kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From 210.241.254.126:1812 to 198.144.206.157:1812 ulen 49 These lines are very similar to log entries I got when that problem surfaced a couple of months ago. The only difference are the input and output ports. It seems much less rampant than the problem I experienced before. Question - is this another variant - and what if any purpose do ports 1812 and 3530 serve? Secondly, will the following command fix things? The intent is to block input access to port 1812. $ iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 1812 -j DROP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] iptables & checksum issues
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:57:57 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) wrote: > I am a pretty fair newbie in internet security issues, use of iptables > and so forth. But I already have been attacked by some variant of a > worm that attacked certain ports on my system, slowing my internet > connection etc. I noticed before certain udp checksom problems when > that happened, and at the time (8.2) installed portsentry. > > Anyhow, in grepping my last month's worth of logs, I noticed a few > liens like: > > Feb 3 14:38:35 m206-157 kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From > 210.241.254.126:1812 to 198.144.206.157:1812 ulen 49 Feb 4 21:33:15 > m206-157 kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From 210.241.254.126:1812 to > 198.144.206.157:1812 ulen 49 > > These lines are very similar to log entries I got when that problem > surfaced a couple of months ago. The only difference are the input and > output ports. It seems much less rampant than the problem I > experienced before. > > Question - is this another variant - and what if any purpose do ports > 1812 and 3530 serve? # grep 1812 /etc/services radius 1812/tcp# Radius radius 1812/udp# Radius Someone trying to get at authentication servers? > Secondly, will the following command fix things? The intent is to > block input access to port 1812. > > > $ iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 1812 -j DROP Looks fine to me... though you might need to use -I instead... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] kmsgdump && ksymoops result for the 1GB RAM problem in enterprise kernel
Hi guys, You remember my problem with 1GB of memory on my A7V8X card, vga=788 and kernel compiled with high mem support (2.4.21-0.13mdk enterprise) combination ending in a kernel oops. I did my best to learn about tracing stuff in linux / linux kernel and I patched the kernel with the kmsgdump and also installed ksymoops. I set up kmsgdump to do an automatic dump on floppy in case of kernel oops. I attached the resulting messages.txt and also the oopsresults.txt as the result of running ksymoops on the messages.txt There is a warning in it which says results might not be reliable because of some module mismatch, but it is ok. The oops had nothing to do with that module. So make abstraction of it. The pwcx-i386 is compiled for some other version but it works and I need it for my webcam. It appears in the result of the ksymoops but at the moment it crashes (right at boot) it doesn't even get to the point where it has anything to do with the modules. Can anyone tell me if any kernel guru can understand any of these results? Is there a specific place where I must send the results for interpretation? If anyone needs more info please don't hesitate to contact me by email. Best regards, Adrian <4>Linux version 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk)) #6 SMP Sat Mar 8 19:25:59 CET 2003 <6>BIOS-provided physical RAM map: <4> BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) <4> BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: 0010 - 3fffc000 (usable) <4> BIOS-e820: 3fffc000 - 3000 (ACPI data) <4> BIOS-e820: 3000 - 4000 (ACPI NVS) <4> BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) <4> BIOS-e820: - 0001 (reserved) <5>127MB HIGHMEM available. <5>896MB LOWMEM available. <7>ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0002000 <4>On node 0 totalpages: 262140 <4>zone(0): 4096 pages. <4>zone(1): 225280 pages. <4>zone(2): 32764 pages. <4>Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=2421-13custom ro root=309 devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off pci=biosirq quiet <6>ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi <4>Found and enabled local APIC! <6>Initializing CPU#0 <4>Detected 2000.121 MHz processor. <4>Console: colour dummy device 80x25 <4>Calibrating delay loop... 3984.58 BogoMIPS <6>Memory: 1032408k/1048560k available (1587k kernel code, 15764k reserved, 1136k data, 156k init, 131056k highmem) <6>Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) <6>Inode cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) <6>Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) <4>Buffer-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) <4>Page-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) <6>CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) <6>CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line) <6>Intel machine check architecture supported. <6>Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. <7>CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <7>CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <6>Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. <6>Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. <6>Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. <4>POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX <4>mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <4>mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel <6>CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) <6>CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line) <6>Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. <7>CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <7>CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff <4>CPU0: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2400+ stepping 01 <4>per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 731.38 usecs. <5>SMP motherboard not detected. <4>enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 <4>ESR value before enabling vector: <4>ESR value after enabling vector: <4>Using local APIC timer interrupts. <4>calibrating APIC timer ... <4>. CPU clock speed is 1999.9871 MHz. <4>. host bus clock speed is 266.6649 MHz. <4>cpu: 0, clocks: 249, slice: 124 <4>CPU0 <4>Waiting on wait_init_idle (map = 0x0) <4>All processors have done init_idle <6>ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030122 <6>ACPI: Disabled via command line (acpi=off) <6>PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf1720, last bus=1 <6>PCI: Using configuration type 1 <6>PCI: Probing PCI hardware <4>PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries <4>PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) <6>PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/3177] at 00:11.0 <6>isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... <6>isapnp: No Plug & Play device found <6>Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 <6>Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 <4>Initializing RT netlink socket <6>apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x0b (Driver version 1.16) <4>Starting kswapd <4>allocated 32
