Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Friday 22 Aug 2003 7:30 am, Todd Lyons wrote:
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> Anne Wilson wanted us to know:
> >My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly
> >frequently.  The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound
> >corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more
> >than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think).
>
> I'd guess that msec is running in the middle of the night and
> changing permissions on some file or socket or device node.
> 
Could be, Todd.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Todd Lyons]

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Anne Wilson wanted us to know:

>My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly 
>frequently.  The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound 
>corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more 
>than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think).  

I'd guess that msec is running in the middle of the night and changing
permissions on some file or socket or device node.
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Re: [expert] Fwd for Mark Weaver (testing mail list server too)

[Todd Lyons]

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ed tharp wanted us to know:

>I've been trying to send this to the expert list now for a day or so but
>can't seem to get any message though to this list. At the moment I'm 
>running a traceroute to the Mandrake mailserver and coming up empty. It 
>got halfway through and just hit a brick wall. Their network must be 
>infested with worms.

It was something affecting much of L.A.  I couldn't get to my server
either for a period of at least 5 hours.  Interestingly enough, from my
house I could ssh to a customer's machine then could get to my
webserver, but couldn't go direct from my house to my webserver.  Since
the mail servers are here and connect to one of the same providers that
my provider does, I'd say it was a peering problem that developed and
was fixed within a few hours.
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[expert] KMail and Pine

[Guilherme Cirne]

Hi,

Here's the situation. I use KMail to read my mail from a POP3 account. I 
want to configure Pine to access the same account so I can read my mail 
remotely via ssh. Never used Pine before. Here's what I did:

- installed pine-4.53-1plf.rpm.

- created a symlink ~/mail (where Pine looks for mailboxes) to ~/Mail 
(where KMail looks for mailboxes)

The problem:

When using KMail's default maildir format I can't read my inbox folder 
because no matter how I configure inbox-path (~/mail/ or ~/mail/inbox or 
~/mail/inbox/cur) I get an error saying that it's an invalid folder. I 
can view all other folders. I can send a message via smtp properly but I 
get crash when Pine tries to copy the message to the sent-messages folder 
saying "Received abort signal(sig=11)".

I then tried converting my mail folders to mbox format. Pine works 
perfectly this way. I can read my inbox and sent e-mails get copied 
correctly to the sent-messages folder.

The only problem occurs when I try to open KMail after Pine has altered 
some mbox files. KMail uses .index* files in addition to the actual mbox 
files. After using Pine, these .index* files are older than a 
corresponding mbox file since Pine doesn't update them. So, when I open 
KMail I get an error that the indexes have to be regenerated. Any 
modifications that were made to mbox files by Pine don't show up on 
KMail.

One solution is to delete all .index* files after using Pine and before 
opening KMail. Is this safe? What are these index* files used for? Is 
there a better solution?

Any help appreciated.

TIA,

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Re: [expert] Any way to chroot jail a user?

[David Guntner]

Robert W. grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 02:49, David Guntner wrote:
>> Robert W. grabbed a keyboard and wrote:logging
>> > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 21:05, David Guntner wrote:
>> > What about changing the shell to "/bin/false". Will that prevent
themimplement
>> > getting a login shell?
>>
>> If I can't login as the player set up to run the server, it will be kind
>> of hard to start up screen and then start the actual server
>> program :-)
>
> Sorry, I assumed the server was started through a script in /etc/init.d.
> You could also use 'sudo' to start the server with the proper user. Then
> you don't have to log in as that user.

The nature of the Neverwinter Nights game server is such that it needs to
be interactive for me to make manual settings changes on the fly. 
Therefor, an interactive shell is needed to start up screen (which keeps
things running when logged out) and then run the server.  Thus, doing
something which prohibits logging in outright is not an option.

As I said in my first message, this is not *that* big of a thing.  I don't
think that anyone can do something which would result in crashing the
server process and ending up in a shell as a result.  If there was a
relatively easy way to chroot jail the user to its own home directory, I'd
be all for it.  But from what I've read in the other responses, it seems
like it will be more trouble that it's worth to implement.

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Re: [expert] Any way to chroot jail a user?

[Robert W.]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 02:49, David Guntner wrote:
> Robert W. grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 21:05, David Guntner wrote:
> > What about changing the shell to "/bin/false". Will that prevent them
> > getting a login shell? 
> 
> If I can't login as the player set up to run the server, it will be kind of 
> hard to start up screen and then start the actual server program :-)
> 
> --Dave

Sorry, I assumed the server was started through a script in /etc/init.d.
You could also use 'sudo' to start the server with the proper user. Then
you don't have to log in as that user.

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Re: [expert] Dynamic DNS service provider

[Carlos A. Siso]

http://www.zoneedit.com

I am using Zoneedit since the last 12 months without any problems. I have 4 
domains pointing to my dynamic IP with MX records for free (Max. are 5).

El Wednesday 20 August 2003 13:49, Miark escribió:
> I need to choose one, but I'm not sure _how_ to go about it.
> All all the features pretty much the same from provider to
> provider? Any recommendations?
> 
> Miark
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] hardware question..

[Larry Sword]

Alfredo C. López wrote:

HI!

We have a cluster of machines. 
I made a soft to boot machines without harddisk with linux-mandrake trough the 
network. 
So.. till now the motherboards could be used without a vga card conected to 
the motherboard. So we put all the machines in a shelf and forget about 
them.. :)

But we buy some new motherboards model MSI 845PE Max3 and I couldn't find 
anywhere in the bios an option to make the bios ignores that they don't have 
a vga card,  keyboard, and other stuff present. 

So.. if someone could send me some hints about this .. 



 

How about in the first panel of the BIOS screen, Main, does it ave a 
"Halt On" for setting the value not to halt for "none" or such?

Larry

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Re: [expert] Mandrake RULE involvement Was: Worried aboutresolution...

[James Sparenberg]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 14:23, Richard wrote:
> On Wednesday 20.August.2003 07:04 pm, Jim C wrote:
> > I really would like to see Mandrake get involved with the RULE (Run
> > Up-to-date Linux Everywhere ) poject.
> > It would also really click with the CLIC project. ;-)  [place wince
> > here] One of the bigest problems we had with our cluster was with
> > trying to use out-of-date hardware with modern software.  RULE is a
> > RedHat based project to eliminate this problem.
> >
> > Jim C.
> 
> I Marco at RULE.  He says it will be, basically, a new project because 
> the original was RedHat centric because that's what they were using 
> when they began trying to get Linux on smaller boxes. 
> 
> Michael Fratoni modified the RedHat installer.  Someone would have to do 
> the same for the Mandrake installer.  Perhaps it could be incorporated 
> or become an option of the Mandrake installer? 

biggest hassle would be the exact same hassle that RULE had.  The
current installer requires too dang much ram.  Getting around this was
the single biggest problem they had.  I was doing some testing for them
in the early days, and this was the hassle that drove them nuts.  Even
the current installer run in graphical mode requires at least 64 megs to
run.  Not to mention the problems with modules etc.  It could be done. 
Yes.  But it might be easier to create a new low mem installer than to
back port the current one.  My thought would be this.  Could you drop
back to say the 7.0 installer and work from there? (prior to this it was
primarily a modded RH installer anyway.  Or even do what MDK did in the
beginning.  Mod a RH installer (in this case the RULE installer) to do
MDK rpms?  Or what about the idea of creating a 100meg image and enough
of a linux system on a cd.  Partition the drive (say 100meg root 50meg
swap and 350 megs for home (500meg drive) Then copy the 100meg image to
/  add users, run lilo and reboot.  

James 
> 
> regards,
> Richard.
> 
> 
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> 
> Subject: Re: RULE for Mandrake?
> Date: Thursday 21.August.2003 03:57 pm
> From: "M. Fioretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: io <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fratoni Michael 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 12:47:02 at 12:47:02PM -0400, Richard 
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Hello Marco,
> >
> > I just read a note on the Mandrake list asking about the possibility
> > of creating a RULE for Mandrake.
> 
> Interesting! Which note? Do you have a URL?
> 
> > Perhaps it has been discussed on the list but I've not been following
> > it lately.  My C skills are very rusty and corroded with Pascal.
> >
> > Is this a way to amplify Run Linux Everywhere?
> > Would it require a separate project?
> 
> RULE (= Run Up to date Linux Everywhere) is not a distribution and is
> basically made of three parts:
> 
> 1) Modify the standard installer or create a new one working with less
>RAM than the official one
> 
> 2) Choose the selection of *existing* packages for the given
>distribution which gives the most real functionality with the
>smallest resources, creating new ones only when there is really no
>alternative
> 
> 3) Define a set of tip, tricks configuration files and best practices
>to make the system run faster, in less disk space.
> 
> #
> 
> Part 1) was done for RULE/Red Hat by Michael Fratoni, cc: to this
> answer, and is distribution specific, you can't use the RULE
> installers for Mandrake or Debian. You can build new ones with the
> same approach of slinky (based on busybox) but it would be a different
> project. Michael has the last word on this, however, as he wrote the
> SW.
> 
> Part 2 and 3 above are much less distribution specific. If we find
> out, say, that mail client XYZ is the one with the greatest
> functionality and the smallest amount of extra libraries needed, it
> would probably be the same on all distributions. Ditto for the tips
> and tricks category.
> 
> RULE uses Red Hat because the idea came out from Red Hat users and we
> have no time or skills to play with other distributions, not because
> of any religious-like decision. My answer to a RULE for Mandrake
> sub-project is the same I routinely give to people asking how to reuse
> old Macs or SPARCs: it is a great idea, we could all learn a lot,
> reuse a lot of skills and effort, but somebody must step in and take
> the lead for the corresponding sub-project.
> 
> Let me know if anybody is willing to give it a try. Consider however
> that I'll leave for vacation in a few hours, and will be back about
> september 5th.
> 
> Please forward this to the mandrake list, as I am not subscribed
> there, and let me know the URL of any relevant discussion.
> 
> Thanks for your interest in RULE!
> 
>Ciao,
>   Marco Fioretti
> 
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Re: [expert] make bzImage error

[A V Flinsch]

On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:41 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> so i did a 'make dep' and 'make clean' and while executing 'make
> bzImage', it says
>
> smpboot.c:65: conflicting types for 'cpu_online_map'
> /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:57: previous declaration of
> 'cpu_online_map' make[1]: *** [smpboot.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel'
> make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/kernel] Error 2


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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 21 August 2003 02:23 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

> I don't have anything at all about ALSA.  I have two entries
> concerning External Midi Device.  As I told Steffen, the second
> (selected one) looks absolutely normal, showing EMU10K1 Midi, but the
> first one has
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port - but instead of o there is a small
> square.
>
> This is an Audigy Platinum, btw, in case that makes any difference
> (don't see why it should).
>
> I'm puzzled about this ALSA bit.  Why am I getting no reference to
> ALSA?  Any ideas?

There are two different sound driver architectures for Linux.  OSS and ALSA.  
I use Alsa because I read that OSS is older and supposedly not as good.  You 
might be using OSS in which case, you can install Alsa and you should be able 
to switch over to it and your sound problems might improve.  My own sound 
card was originally detected and set to OSS but I switched it, again because 
I read that Alsa was better.

snip from a posting:
--cut-- 
 > Philosophically (and technically) speaking, are there real advantages for 
 > me to install alsa (other than the above) when OSS/free works for me? I 
 
If OSS works for you, then no. ALSA's primary advantages are: 
 


[common] 
 - separation of kernel and user-space code [all] 
 - ALSA library can provide more functionality to 
   applications (format conversions, sharing soundcard 
   resources, dsp plugins) 
 - benefits ALSA-native apps 
 [alsa-kernel/alsa-driver] 
 - better driver architecture 
 - more shared code between drivers for 
   different soundcards 
 -> fixes and improvements to common code affect all 
drivers 
 -> drivers behave more uniformly 
 - benefits both ALSA-native and apps using OSS-emulation 
 - support for pro-level soundcards without performance problems 
 - for instance handling devices that only support 
   noninterleaved buffer layout 
 - befefits ALSA-native apps (and in some cases also 
   apps using OSS-emulation) 
 [alsa-lib] 
 - better API for applications [alsa-lib] 
 - more flexible configuration of various parameters 
 - well-designed API for acquiring realtime status 
   information (for various playback/capture 
   synchronation purposes) 
 - benefits ALSA-native apps 
 


So shortly put, ALSA provides a better framework for writing drivers and 
 for developing audio applications. When comparing OSS/Free and ALSA from 
 an end-user's point of view, it comes down to the quality of the drivers 
 for the soundcard type in question, and the specific applications that are 
 used. Some OSS/Free drivers are very good and support all OSS API 
 features. If this is the case and all apps seem to work ok, you don't have 
 much to gain from switching to ALSA... yet. 

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Re: [expert] Password Question

[Jim C]

As for linux being able to bypass windows passwords, if it can, then its
likely the same thing would be doable from any OS that can read NTFS..  not
just linux, so you might see the same thing from freedos or any *BSD
variant in the future.
 

The /etc/passwd file in Linux is just as accessible.   Boot from a disk 
and it is easy to change or reset passwords.
Most people want to have this capability however, just in case.  Any 
resulting secureity hole is easily managed by physical security (i.e. 
lock up the machine).
In extreme cases, one might add a BIOS password and turn off booting 
from CD/Floppy, however.  This should work for both OS's.

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Re: [expert] Gotmail

[bascule]

anne my gotmail.rc looks like this:
username=
password=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
folders=Inbox
save-to-login
delete
#only-new
folder-dir=/home/bascule/Mail/gotmail/
retry-limit=3

this creates a file called  in the ../gotmail directory, i then 
set up a local account in kmail to fetch from the loaction 
../gotmail/

obviously my hotmail address isn't  but i think it's clear :)

bascule


On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 9:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Anyone using Gotmail with KMail?  I decided to use a hotmail addy for
> usenet, in the hope that I would redirect spam to that account.  All
> the same, I'd like to monitor it for a while.  I downloaded Gotmail
> and the script seems to run ok,  but either it is not downloading, or
> it is putting the mail somewhere where I can't find it.  In the
> config file I have
>
> folder-dir=/home/anne/Mail/
> folders=Hotmail
>
> Does anyone know if that is right?
>
> Anne

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[expert] hardware question..

[Alfredo C. López]

HI!

We have a cluster of machines. 
I made a soft to boot machines without harddisk with linux-mandrake trough the 
network. 
So.. till now the motherboards could be used without a vga card conected to 
the motherboard. So we put all the machines in a shelf and forget about 
them.. :)

But we buy some new motherboards model MSI 845PE Max3 and I couldn't find 
anywhere in the bios an option to make the bios ignores that they don't have 
a vga card,  keyboard, and other stuff present. 

So.. if someone could send me some hints about this .. 



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Re: [expert] Mandrake RULE involvement Was: Worried about resolution...

[Richard]

On Wednesday 20.August.2003 07:04 pm, Jim C wrote:
> I really would like to see Mandrake get involved with the RULE (Run
> Up-to-date Linux Everywhere ) poject.
> It would also really click with the CLIC project. ;-)  [place wince
> here] One of the bigest problems we had with our cluster was with
> trying to use out-of-date hardware with modern software.  RULE is a
> RedHat based project to eliminate this problem.
>
> Jim C.

I Marco at RULE.  He says it will be, basically, a new project because 
the original was RedHat centric because that's what they were using 
when they began trying to get Linux on smaller boxes. 

Michael Fratoni modified the RedHat installer.  Someone would have to do 
the same for the Mandrake installer.  Perhaps it could be incorporated 
or become an option of the Mandrake installer? 

regards,
Richard.


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Subject: Re: RULE for Mandrake?
Date: Thursday 21.August.2003 03:57 pm
From: "M. Fioretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: io <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fratoni Michael 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 12:47:02 at 12:47:02PM -0400, Richard 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello Marco,
>
> I just read a note on the Mandrake list asking about the possibility
> of creating a RULE for Mandrake.

Interesting! Which note? Do you have a URL?

> Perhaps it has been discussed on the list but I've not been following
> it lately.  My C skills are very rusty and corroded with Pascal.
>
> Is this a way to amplify Run Linux Everywhere?
> Would it require a separate project?

RULE (= Run Up to date Linux Everywhere) is not a distribution and is
basically made of three parts:

1) Modify the standard installer or create a new one working with less
   RAM than the official one

2) Choose the selection of *existing* packages for the given
   distribution which gives the most real functionality with the
   smallest resources, creating new ones only when there is really no
   alternative

3) Define a set of tip, tricks configuration files and best practices
   to make the system run faster, in less disk space.

#

Part 1) was done for RULE/Red Hat by Michael Fratoni, cc: to this
answer, and is distribution specific, you can't use the RULE
installers for Mandrake or Debian. You can build new ones with the
same approach of slinky (based on busybox) but it would be a different
project. Michael has the last word on this, however, as he wrote the
SW.

Part 2 and 3 above are much less distribution specific. If we find
out, say, that mail client XYZ is the one with the greatest
functionality and the smallest amount of extra libraries needed, it
would probably be the same on all distributions. Ditto for the tips
and tricks category.

RULE uses Red Hat because the idea came out from Red Hat users and we
have no time or skills to play with other distributions, not because
of any religious-like decision. My answer to a RULE for Mandrake
sub-project is the same I routinely give to people asking how to reuse
old Macs or SPARCs: it is a great idea, we could all learn a lot,
reuse a lot of skills and effort, but somebody must step in and take
the lead for the corresponding sub-project.

Let me know if anybody is willing to give it a try. Consider however
that I'll leave for vacation in a few hours, and will be back about
september 5th.

Please forward this to the mandrake list, as I am not subscribed
there, and let me know the URL of any relevant discussion.

Thanks for your interest in RULE!

   Ciao,
Marco Fioretti

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:57, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
> 
> > On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a
> > sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not
> > expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). 
> > Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I
> > have changed that setting ever since.  I am thinking that apps that
> > are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure
> > exactly what is doing what.  FWIW.
> >
> > Rolf
> 
> That's a thought, Rolf.  I'll shorten that time.
> 
> Anne
> 
> might be the whole problem, since mine is unchecked and I don't have
> the problem
> __
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[expert] Gotmail

[Anne Wilson]

Anyone using Gotmail with KMail?  I decided to use a hotmail addy for 
usenet, in the hope that I would redirect spam to that account.  All 
the same, I'd like to monitor it for a while.  I downloaded Gotmail 
and the script seems to run ok,  but either it is not downloading, or 
it is putting the mail somewhere where I can't find it.  In the 
config file I have

folder-dir=/home/anne/Mail/
folders=Hotmail

Does anyone know if that is right?

Anne

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Rolf Pedersen]

Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:32 pm, ed tharp wrote:

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:26, Anne Wilson wrote:

I don't think it's a heat problem.  Besides, if it were so, just
logging out wouldn't clear it, I think.
Anne
I donna know, but I think we have pretty much the same sound card
(SB-Audigy), and i don't have no such trouble, and my X windows is
up 24/7 going on 4 weeks now.
Let's compare the settings i have in the KDE control center for
system sounds.
under aRTs tab, I have (only) checked ,  Start aRTs at KDE startup,
run sound server with real time priority, and, display messages
using artsmessage


I have the same + autosuspend if idle for 60 seconds

On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a sound 
app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not expired (for a 
finished system notification sound, for example).  Setting this to one 
second made the delay that much shorter, so I have changed that setting 
ever since.  I am thinking that apps that are 'arts-unaware' might 
benefit from this change but not sure exactly what is doing what.  FWIW.

Rolf


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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

[Albert E. Whale, CISSP]

Bill wrote:

I am getting a ton of emails that are infected with the latest virus. I am 
running Mailscanner to scan incomming email before it hits any of my 
workstations. So the files are not getting past my server. It does though fil 
up my quarentine directory on the server. These infected emails comne from 
the same server all the time. I have looked high and low to find a way to 
contact the admin for the email server but cant seem to find anyone. The 
whois database shows an email addy that is out of date as I got my email 
returned. I shouldnt have to spen my money on a phone call to get this taken 
care of. If anything I would like them to just filter my email addy so that 
nothing from the server goes to me. Maybe someone here knows a better way to 
stop these idiots. 

Here is the header file from one of the many emails that I get. There all the 
same just a diff senders return addy.

 

All of the previous responses are accurate.

While I was frustrated over this very situation, that is why I developed 
the No-JunkMail.com Service.  We can Scan the Emails for Businesses, or 
individuals.

In the Access list of Sendmail, you can Discard or Reject his IP Address 
or his entire domain.

We have Bayes class filtering enabled and anything scoring above a 12 is 
deleted from the Input Mail Stream.

HTH.

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

> I wish I understood this sound setup - I can't make head nor tail of
> it.  HardDrake seems to say that I am running emu10k2 with OSS.  When
> I look at Services in MCC I see that alsa is available, although
> stopped.  I expected that to be the place to disable artsd, but
> obviously I was wrong, so how do I do that?  Is it a 'service stop'
> command?

Go into Configuration, KDE, Sound, Sound System

You should see a checkbox with start aRts soundserver on KDE startup and if 
you are running arts, it will be checked.  Uncheck it and then you can just 
issue a ps -k artsd or logout and log back into KDE

BTW, if you go to the Sound I/O tab, there is a checkbox for Enable full 
duplex operation.  I have that box unchecked now because the noises that I 
was hearing on multiple application access actually got better when I 
unchecked that option.  However, then you can only listen to one thing at a 
time.  You might try playing with that setting to see what happens.

AFAIK, the SB Audigy is perfectly capable of full duplex operation and should 
have no problems supporting it but with proprietary hardware, there are all 
kinds of possible issues with the linux driver implementation.


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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 21 August 2003 11:54 am, Bill wrote:
> I am getting a ton of emails that are infected with the latest virus. I am
> running Mailscanner to scan incomming email before it hits any of my
> workstations. So the files are not getting past my server. It does though
> fil up my quarentine directory on the server. These infected emails comne
> from the same server all the time. I have looked high and low to find a way
> to contact the admin for the email server but cant seem to find anyone. The
> whois database shows an email addy that is out of date as I got my email
> returned. I shouldnt have to spen my money on a phone call to get this
> taken care of. If anything I would like them to just filter my email addy
> so that nothing from the server goes to me. Maybe someone here knows a
> better way to stop these idiots.

see http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt
Relevant section reads:

/etc/postfix/sender_checks:
/etc/postfix/client_checks:

# These files have to be "compiled" with "postmap"

# Using a domain name
example.tld 554 Spam not tolerated here

# Maybe example2.tld is on a DNSbl, but we want to let their
# email in anyway.
example2.tldOK

# Checking by IP address (you'd only do this in client_checks)
# 10.0.0.0/8
10  554 Go away!

# 172.16/16
172.16  554 Bugger off!

# 192.168.4/24 is bad, but 192.168.4.128 is okay
192.168.4.128   OK
192.168.4   554 Take a hike!


Entry would be:

 # Checking by IP address (you'd only do this in client_checks)
# 66.143.23.249/24
66.143.23.1/24  554 Enough with the MS viruses 
already, clean your 
house!

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:32 pm, ed tharp wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:26, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I don't think it's a heat problem.  Besides, if it were so, just
> > logging out wouldn't clear it, I think.
> >
> > Anne
>
> I donna know, but I think we have pretty much the same sound card
> (SB-Audigy), and i don't have no such trouble, and my X windows is
> up 24/7 going on 4 weeks now.
> Let's compare the settings i have in the KDE control center for
> system sounds.
> under aRTs tab, I have (only) checked ,  Start aRTs at KDE startup,
> run sound server with real time priority, and, display messages
> using artsmessage

I have the same + autosuspend if idle for 60 seconds

> under sound I/O tab, I have enable full duplex, and audio buffer
> size set to 208 millisec.

I had the same - I have just dropped the full duplex as a trial, but 
if you have it enabled and no problem that can probably go back.

> under Midi, I just have 5 entries that say "ALSA device".

I don't have anything at all about ALSA.  I have two entries 
concerning External Midi Device.  As I told Steffen, the second 
(selected one) looks absolutely normal, showing EMU10K1 Midi, but the 
first one has
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port - but instead of o there is a small 
square.

This is an Audigy Platinum, btw, in case that makes any difference 
(don't see why it should).

I'm puzzled about this ALSA bit.  Why am I getting no reference to 
ALSA?  Any ideas?

Anne

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:

> On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a
> sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not
> expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). 
> Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I
> have changed that setting ever since.  I am thinking that apps that
> are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure
> exactly what is doing what.  FWIW.
>
> Rolf

That's a thought, Rolf.  I'll shorten that time.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 21 August 2003 11:32 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

>
> I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit together
> would be much appreciated.  Thanks, Steffen

Anne, you might want to take a look at this:
http://www.arts-project.org/doc/handbook/

I would suggest playing with latency settings in the arts control panel in 
KDE.  That may improve things.  Also, increasing the sleep time so that arts 
daemon goes to sleep when not in use a tad quicker might help.

I am pretty sure that the noise has to do with duplex activity but if you want 
to run more than one sound application at the same time, full duplex is the 
only way to do it.

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Re: [expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Daniel Anderson]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 14:06, Charlie wrote:
> quoting James Sparenberg; Thursday 21 August 2003 01:22 am:
> 
> > > It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my
> > > browsers, that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or
> > > rejection. I had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> > >
> > > I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection.
> > > It would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random
> > > factor built in to it's execution.
> > >
> > > What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes
> > > I clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I
> > > have no need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when
> > > you install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials
> > > to a 1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a
> > > phone bill showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to
> > > them at a rate of roughly $10 (US) per minute...
> > >
> > > I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript
> > > code).
> 
> Their server(s) are Apache on Red Hat. I also didn't see any java-script 
> redirect code on the index html page source code.
> 
> > Could well be a rouge man in the middle hijack.  In other words it's not
> > your browser but rather your DNS.   Although I don't understand the
> > methodology I'm told that it is possible to "fake" or otherwise override
> > DNS so that people are redirected who don't want to be.  (This may
> > explain why I get the right site and others don't)   Other option is
> > that if they have their load balancing hosed it could be like a phone
> > system we had.  6 lines and if line one was busy it went to 2 then 3 etc
> > etc.  And all of our numbers where sequential.  One day we got a call
> > from a gentleman.  Yep, he had the next number after us, and the phone
> > company system was sending our calls to him when all 6 numbers where
> > busy.
> >
> > James
> 
> You are likely correct, man in the middle, cracked ISP DNS server, whatever. I 
> don't see how it would have happened but I'm just a gnubie. :-)
> 
> Has the OP tried; in a terminal, to check what IP address their ISP's DNS 
> servers are resolving for bandwidth place? Like thusly;
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ host www.bandwidthplace.com 24.70.95.195
> Using domain server:
> Name: 24.70.95.195
> Address: 24.70.95.195#53
> Aliases:
> 
> www.bandwidthplace.com is an alias for bandwidthplace.com.
> bandwidthplace.com has address 209.61.187.19
> 
> That's what I get from all of the DNS servers I use for my cable connection 
> here. I just copy 'n' pasted the last one of three.
> 
> Just a suggestion.
> 
> Regards;
> Charlie

I get the same ip.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:23 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 17:32 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> > True, the system sound and the wav file are both called every
> > time there is mail.  My card is an Audigy, running on emu10k2. 
> > HardDrake seems to be saying that it uses OSS, not alsa.  I don't
> > know where artsd fits in to the picture.  Are you saying that
> > artsd is what plays system sounds?  If so, I guess it will turn
> > off via 'services', right?  I could give that a try.
>
> configuration => kde => sounds => soundserver. I have then and now
> this scratching in the mail notification of kmail, but xmms f.i.
> isn't affected anymore (plays fine at the same time) . Yes
> kde-sounds should be played trough artsd if it is running. If, not
> aplay is used (All AFAIK!). Saying that you have OSS and I have
> alsa it seems more and more to be an artsd issue. I don't know if
> your card can full duplex (letting access more then one app to the
> /dev/dsp) from my knowledge it depends on OSS if the soundcard
> supports it.
>
> > I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit
> > together would be much appreciated.  Thanks, Steffen
>
> Yep would like to know as well what is causing it , if there is a
> chance it isn't the soundcard driver. Maybe with 9.2 all this isn't
> an issue anymore and I hope I can as fast as possible switch to
> 9.2.
>
OK - now I know where to find it, I can start to play with it.  It 
will be a long slow job, as it can be a couple of days sometimes 
between problems.  Anyway, I've started by turning off the full 
duplex.  If that doesn't cure it I'll turn off the Start aRTs at 
boot.  While I have been typing this a message flashed onto the 
screen.  I only caught a glimpse, but I think it said something about 
soundserver, so perhaps it has just written/read the changed config 
file.

Meanwhile, on the midi tab I have two entries.  The second one is fine 
(EMU10K1 MIDI - External Midi Port), but the first one looks like
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port except that the o is not an o, but a 
small square.  Have you got anything like that?

My card is the Audigy Platinum, with a front panel.  There are 
physically two sources of midi input, then, but I don't know if they 
should have separate entries.  I rarely use midi input - it's too big 
a hassle to move furniture - so I've no idea whether selecting the 
odd one would enable the front panel input.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Charlie]

quoting James Sparenberg; Thursday 21 August 2003 01:22 am:

> > It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my
> > browsers, that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or
> > rejection. I had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> >
> > I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection.
> > It would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random
> > factor built in to it's execution.
> >
> > What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes
> > I clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I
> > have no need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when
> > you install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials
> > to a 1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a
> > phone bill showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to
> > them at a rate of roughly $10 (US) per minute...
> >
> > I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript
> > code).

Their server(s) are Apache on Red Hat. I also didn't see any java-script 
redirect code on the index html page source code.

> Could well be a rouge man in the middle hijack.  In other words it's not
> your browser but rather your DNS.   Although I don't understand the
> methodology I'm told that it is possible to "fake" or otherwise override
> DNS so that people are redirected who don't want to be.  (This may
> explain why I get the right site and others don't)   Other option is
> that if they have their load balancing hosed it could be like a phone
> system we had.  6 lines and if line one was busy it went to 2 then 3 etc
> etc.  And all of our numbers where sequential.  One day we got a call
> from a gentleman.  Yep, he had the next number after us, and the phone
> company system was sending our calls to him when all 6 numbers where
> busy.
>
> James

You are likely correct, man in the middle, cracked ISP DNS server, whatever. I 
don't see how it would have happened but I'm just a gnubie. :-)

Has the OP tried; in a terminal, to check what IP address their ISP's DNS 
servers are resolving for bandwidth place? Like thusly;

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ host www.bandwidthplace.com 24.70.95.195
Using domain server:
Name: 24.70.95.195
Address: 24.70.95.195#53
Aliases:

www.bandwidthplace.com is an alias for bandwidthplace.com.
bandwidthplace.com has address 209.61.187.19

That's what I get from all of the DNS servers I use for my cable connection 
here. I just copy 'n' pasted the last one of three.

Just a suggestion.

Regards;
Charlie
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[expert] Fwd for Mark Weaver (testing mail list server too)

[ed tharp]

Hi All,

I've been trying to send this to the expert list now for a day or so but
can't seem to get any message though to this list. At the moment I'm 
running a traceroute to the Mandrake mailserver and coming up empty. It 
got halfway through and just hit a brick wall. Their network must be 
infested with worms.

So, I thought I'd just ask here. Of late I've not been able to get Cups 
going. For the longest time I've not had a lick of trouble with it. 
Recently though, its been miserable and I haven't a clue as to why.

I've got a lot of this going on in my /var/log/syslog:

cupsd: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!

That happenes every time I attempt to start the service. Anyone else
experiencing this, and how have you dealt with it to solve the problem?

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RE: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

[Frankie]

Y not just block that servers IP from connecting to yours for a month or
so???

would not be hard to add some rules to that effect.

rgds

Franki

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill
>Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 11:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [expert] im sick and tired of this!
>
>
>I am getting a ton of emails that are infected with the latest
>virus. I am
>running Mailscanner to scan incomming email before it hits any of my
>workstations. So the files are not getting past my server. It
>does though fil
>up my quarentine directory on the server. These infected emails
>comne from
>the same server all the time. I have looked high and low to find a way to
>contact the admin for the email server but cant seem to find anyone. The
>whois database shows an email addy that is out of date as I got my email
>returned. I shouldnt have to spen my money on a phone call to get
>this taken
>care of. If anything I would like them to just filter my email
>addy so that
>nothing from the server goes to me. Maybe someone here knows a
>better way to
>stop these idiots.
>
>Here is the header file from one of the many emails that I get.
>There all the
>same just a diff senders return addy.
>
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>X-Original-To: unknown
>Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Received: from DAN (adsl-66-143-23-249.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net
>[66.143.23.249])
>by firebird.billbeau.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DFF1EB2E2
>for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:48:29 -0700 (PDT)
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: {Filename?} Re: Thank you!
>Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 9:27:29 --0500
>X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be infected
>Importance: Normal
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
>  boundary="_NextPart_000_23CC7CC3"
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information
>Status: R
>X-Status: N
>
>Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed
>Warning: (your_details.pif).
>Warning: Please read the "VirusWarning.txt" attachment(s) for more
>information.
>
>Please see the attached file for details.
>
>
>
>VirusWarning.txt
>
>


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[expert] autoconf/automake problems

[Steffen Barszus]

Hi !

I try to compile current k3b cvs, but I don't get the auto* stuff to 
work. I nearly understand nothing of that, so maybe i find here someone 
enlightened. 

I simply started as it is proposed by the instructions on their website 
and got 

*** Creating configure
aclocal.m4:5542: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion
aclocal.m4:164: KDE_PATH_X_DIRECT is expanded from...
aclocal.m4:5542: the top level
autom4te-2.5x: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
make[1]: *** [cvs] Error 1


Ok searching for the _m4_divert_diversion brought me to: 
http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/autoconf/html_chapter/autoconf_15.html#IDX915

Future versions of Automake will simply no longer define most of these 
macros, and will properly quote the names of the remaining macros. But 
you don't have to wait for it to happen to do the right thing right 
now: do not depend upon macros from Automake as it is simply not its 
job to provide macros (but the one it requires by itself):


$ cat configure.in
AC_INIT
AM_TYPE_PTRDIFF_T
$ rm aclocal.m4
$ autoupdate
autoupdate: `configure.in' is updated
$ cat configure.in
AC_INIT
AC_CHECK_TYPES([ptrdiff_t])
$ aclocal-1.4
$ autoconf
$


Ok tried that and get the following :
..
# autoconf-2.5x
ac-wrapper: ouch, couldn't call binary (/usr/bin/autom4te-2.13).

or that it wants autoconf-2.5x

What is this all about ? I keep getting this weird stuff, not only on 
k3b. Are files of kde broken or is the auto-stuff on mandrake 9.1 
broken or am I just to stupid or what is this ? I tried removing all 
related packages and reinstalled it and tried again with the same 
result. I tried to with the admin dir provided by the kde-sdk package 
instead of kde-common/admin to no avail. 

If someone could give me a hand here i would be glad. I can live with 
software that doesn't compile because it is in development, but this 
stuff get on my nerves, the more, the less I don't understand it and 
doesn't find usefull infos about it. 

Hope somebody can help 


Steffen

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RE: [expert] resolv.conf

[Olaf Marzocchi]

At 12.12 21/08/2003, you wrote:
As I understand it, zeroconf is sposed to be to linux what netbeui is to
windoze
or what appletalk is to macs.
Well, zeroconf is supposed to be what RendezVous is for macs X... they are 
the same thing (and it was born in Apple)...

A quick google search shows that is the case.
http://www.zeroconf.org/
bascially, when it works, you plug a few mandrake machines into a hub, and
they allocate themselves and allow networking with no config work.
I don't know if i like it, but i see the reason for it.
Exactly, i.e. it's useful for instant messaging inside a (not big) network 
and for newbies at home.

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[expert] RULE for Mandrake?

[Richard]

Hello Marco,

I just read a note on the Mandrake list asking about the possibility of 
creating a RULE for Mandrake. 

Perhaps it has been discussed on the list but I've not been following it 
lately.  My C skills are very rusty and corroded with Pascal. 

Is this a way to amplify Run Linux Everywhere? 
Would it require a separate project?  

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RE: [expert] Password Question

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:44, Lawson, Jim wrote:
>   Not true Anne if you implement security in windows everyone is not a
> admin. 
> But The fact that knnopix can access any windows file system is dangerous to
> me to run Windoze.
> 
> I read an article the other day that said mandrake 9.1 and other stuff can
> easily reset Windoze passwords. Evewn the administrator one. I don't like
> this. this is why I am asking this question. 
> 
> I happen to love Linux. You don't have to convince me. I have to convince my
> bosses. IT Director. That is why I am asking these questions to the expert
> group so I have more evidence that Windoze has to go.
I don't recommend any writing to NTFS partitions. (from M$ products
either, if you have a choice). as corruption of other files has been
known to occur.   
any install of Linux should be able to screw with any FAT partition, and
delete files you could not delete from windoze



> -Original Message-
> From: Frankie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [expert] Password Question
> 
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
> >Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 8:39 PM
> >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >Subject: RE: [expert] Password Question
> >
> >
> >Anne it is from a secruity postion. I want to find out ow much more secure
> >Linux is than windows.
> >
> 
> Well that is easy...
> 
> 1. A file in linux is not executable until you tell it its executable.
>A file in Doze  IS exectuable by virtue of having an executable
> extension. (.bat, .com, .exe etc).
> 
> 2. In windows, everyone is the administrator, so anyone can totally trash
> the system.
>In Linux, everyone is a user, so can only trash their own user space.
> 
> 3. literally thousands of virus's/worms/trojans have been written for
> windows.
>Literally a tiny handful of test virus/worms have been written for
> linux.
> 
> 4. Windoze is all open from scratch, and its up to the user to tighten it
> up.
>Linux is by default much tighter then windows, and its easy to tighten
> it up more. (for example with msec on mandrkae.)
> 
> 
> As for the password issue, win95 provides practically no password
> protection at all, and what little it does provide is easy enough to
> circumvent.
> 
> NT/2000/XP/2003 are much better in that regard, but a ton of flaws have
> been found to get around them as well.
> (for one thing, apparently you can use a win2000 CD to access XP partition.
> 
> So, take your pick..
> 
> hundreds of government bodies that are switching to linux en mass after
> years of windows dominance is a telling indicator of where their faith is..
> 
> Having said that, If you take a winXP or 2000 system, fully patch it.. get
> rid of IIS, IE and outlook Express.
> (replace with apache and mozilla browser and mozilla mail for windows
> respectively)
> and run a firewall and antivir program or two would be pretty secure
> comparitively as well.
> 
> Still not as tight as a well concieved linux install, but pretty good none
> the less.
> 
> But we are a linux list so I will not push you in that direction.
> Also, keep in mind that the M$ version will cost you a whole heap more.
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> Franki
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

[Lawson, Jim]

Deny his ip at your firewall.

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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] im sick and tired of this!


I am getting a ton of emails that are infected with the latest virus. I am 
running Mailscanner to scan incomming email before it hits any of my 
workstations. So the files are not getting past my server. It does though
fil 
up my quarentine directory on the server. These infected emails comne from 
the same server all the time. I have looked high and low to find a way to 
contact the admin for the email server but cant seem to find anyone. The 
whois database shows an email addy that is out of date as I got my email 
returned. I shouldnt have to spen my money on a phone call to get this taken

care of. If anything I would like them to just filter my email addy so that 
nothing from the server goes to me. Maybe someone here knows a better way to

stop these idiots. 

Here is the header file from one of the many emails that I get. There all
the 
same just a diff senders return addy.

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 4:31 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Thursday 21 August 2003 08:26 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I don't think it's a heat problem.  Besides, if it were so, just
> > logging out wouldn't clear it, I think.
> >
> > Anne
>
> Well, offhand, one thing that I can think of is that there is some
> issue with the arts daemon and interaction with drivers on your
> sound card.  My intermittent sound glitches seemed to get worse
> after enabling the arts sound daemon with the duplex functionality
> enabled.  That is what allows multiple applications to play sounds
> at the same time.  At the time, I figured that the sound driver
> didn't interact well with that functionality because the sound
> never had any glitches when I was using straight OSS which doesn't
> allow duplex activity.
>
I wish I understood this sound setup - I can't make head nor tail of 
it.  HardDrake seems to say that I am running emu10k2 with OSS.  When 
I look at Services in MCC I see that alsa is available, although 
stopped.  I expected that to be the place to disable artsd, but 
obviously I was wrong, so how do I do that?  Is it a 'service stop' 
command?

> You might try diabling arts to see if that fixes things and if so,
> you will at least know the neighborhood of the error, if not the
> exact cause.

I'm banging my head on the wall - I just can't get this into my head.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:26, Anne Wilson wrote:

> I don't think it's a heat problem.  Besides, if it were so, just 
> logging out wouldn't clear it, I think.
> 
> Anne
> 
I donna know, but I think we have pretty much the same sound card
(SB-Audigy), and i don't have no such trouble, and my X windows is up
24/7 going on 4 weeks now.
Let's compare the settings i have in the KDE control center for system
sounds.
under aRTs tab, I have (only) checked ,  Start aRTs at KDE startup, run
sound server with real time priority, and, display messages using
artsmessage
under sound I/O tab, I have enable full duplex, and audio buffer size
set to 208 millisec.
under Midi, I just have 5 entries that say "ALSA device".




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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Steffen Barszus]

Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 17:32 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 3:33 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > Yep high frequent noise. As it was pointed out I think that this
> > comes if more then one sound is played. On my system it was often
> > caused by aplay that plays the system sound then mail has arrived.
> > ( I have switched this crappy artsd off on my system. )
>
> True, the system sound and the wav file are both called every time
> there is mail.  My card is an Audigy, running on emu10k2.  HardDrake
> seems to be saying that it uses OSS, not alsa.  I don't know where
> artsd fits in to the picture.  Are you saying that artsd is what
> plays system sounds?  If so, I guess it will turn off via 'services',
> right?  I could give that a try.

configuration => kde => sounds => soundserver. I have then and now this 
scratching in the mail notification of kmail, but xmms f.i. isn't 
affected anymore (plays fine at the same time) . Yes kde-sounds should 
be played trough artsd if it is running. If, not aplay is used (All 
AFAIK!). Saying that you have OSS and I have alsa it seems more and 
more to be an artsd issue. I don't know if your card can full duplex 
(letting access more then one app to the /dev/dsp) from my knowledge it 
depends on OSS if the soundcard supports it. 

> I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit
> together would be much appreciated.  Thanks, Steffen

Yep would like to know as well what is causing it , if there is a chance 
it isn't the soundcard driver. Maybe with 9.2 all this isn't an issue 
anymore and I hope I can as fast as possible switch to 9.2. 

Greets

Steffen

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[expert] im sick and tired of this!

[Bill]

I am getting a ton of emails that are infected with the latest virus. I am 
running Mailscanner to scan incomming email before it hits any of my 
workstations. So the files are not getting past my server. It does though fil 
up my quarentine directory on the server. These infected emails comne from 
the same server all the time. I have looked high and low to find a way to 
contact the admin for the email server but cant seem to find anyone. The 
whois database shows an email addy that is out of date as I got my email 
returned. I shouldnt have to spen my money on a phone call to get this taken 
care of. If anything I would like them to just filter my email addy so that 
nothing from the server goes to me. Maybe someone here knows a better way to 
stop these idiots. 

Here is the header file from one of the many emails that I get. There all the 
same just a diff senders return addy.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Original-To: unknown
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from DAN (adsl-66-143-23-249.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [66.143.23.249])
by firebird.billbeau.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DFF1EB2E2
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:48:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: {Filename?} Re: Thank you!
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 9:27:29 --0500
X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be infected
Importance: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
  boundary="_NextPart_000_23CC7CC3"
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information
Status: R 
X-Status: N
 
Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed
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Warning: Please read the "VirusWarning.txt" attachment(s) for more 
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RE: [expert] Password Question

[Lawson, Jim]

Thanks for a great answer. What are the exploits.

-Original Message-
From: lorne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Password Question


On Wednesday 20 August 2003 07:24 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
> Okay So I just read an article that said mandrake 9.1 can reset any windoz
> password. Can any linux distro password for root or any other user be
> reset. Say if you forgot it?
>
Microsoft has given lip service that it is getting serious about security,
yet 
they have the weakest password hash system of anyone out there. I have a 
linux floppy that I can use to change the password. I have a commercial CD 
that I can pop in and change any password. I can sniff they passwords over 
the wire and get anyones password in short order. 

Yes, there ARE tools to get into a linux system. The system has to come down

though. Unless someone knows of some weakness to exploit I'm unaware of. 

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> Network Administrator
>
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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 3:33 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 13:46 schrieb Anne Wilson:
>
> Hi Anne !
>
Hi, Steffen

> > My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly
> > frequently.  The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound
> > corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for
> > more than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think).
>
> Well I know that thing as it occurs here too.
>
OK - so it's not entirely down to me 

>
> > The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system
> > sounds (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there),
> > and every sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of
> > the throat, but at high volume - best description I can find.  If
> > I log out and in again the problem disappears.
>
> Yep high frequent noise. As it was pointed out I think that this
> comes if more then one sound is played. On my system it was often
> caused by aplay that plays the system sound then mail has arrived.
> ( I have switched this crappy artsd off on my system. )
>
True, the system sound and the wav file are both called every time 
there is mail.  My card is an Audigy, running on emu10k2.  HardDrake 
seems to be saying that it uses OSS, not alsa.  I don't know where 
artsd fits in to the picture.  Are you saying that artsd is what 
plays system sounds?  If so, I guess it will turn off via 'services', 
right?  I could give that a try.

> > Can anyone suggest a likely cause?
>
> On my system a 'service alsa restart' has fixed this issue all the
> time. If you have arts running and a relogin fixes it, it may be
> arts. It is interesting tough, since I thought all the time it is a
> bad soundcard driver. I have a Terratec DMX Fire 1024 using cs46xx
> driver and with the switch from 9.0 to 9.1 it got a lot better,
> with 9.2 beta1 I have the feeling sound is even better again, but
> that may be subjective. On further problem I may have here is that
> I have some dma problems (not enough bandwith on pci I guess,
> caused by my dvb card and sound card and high system load => cdrdao
> cue-burning ) Never had such things with the onboard sound, but the
> Terratec sounds so much better i stay with restarting alsa ;)
>
> short: Possible fix: switching off system sound ;)
>
I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit together 
would be much appreciated.  Thanks, Steffen

Anne


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Re: [expert] Password Question

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 3:44 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote:
>   Not true Anne if you implement security in windows everyone is not
> a admin.

Oops - I don't think it was I who said that .  However, win98 
doesn't recognise the need for admins, so in that case I guess that 
makes everyone an admin, in respect that everyone has equal rights.

> But The fact that knnopix can access any windows file system is
> dangerous to me to run Windoze.
>
> I read an article the other day that said mandrake 9.1 and other
> stuff can easily reset Windoze passwords. Evewn the administrator
> one. I don't like this. this is why I am asking this question.
>
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than I will answer this, but it 
seems to me that a linux system would be able to read plain text 
files, but windows holds passwords in an encrypted state, since 98, 
so it would not be open to anyone/everyone to see.  OTOH, there are 
freely available windows programs that enable you to read any saved 
password.  I have one (somewhere on a cd) called Snadboy Revelation 
in which you run it in the background, launch the app in question, 
highlight the asterisks in the login panel, and read off what the 
password was.   If it's that easy, it shouldn't be too difficult for 
a determined person to crack the encryption - the way Revelation 
works implies to me that there is a well-known algorithm for 
passwords, and if it is so, then yes, windows passwords are 
inherently unsafe.

> I happen to love Linux. You don't have to convince me. I have to
> convince my bosses. IT Director. That is why I am asking these
> questions to the expert group so I have more evidence that Windoze
> has to go.
>
Good luck.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Font and icon problems

[James Conner]

I forwarded this to my friend.  IIRC this option wasn't in the version of KDE 
that came with MDK 9.1.  Also, I'm puzzled as to why this problem would show 
up in GNOME.

Jim

On Thursday 21 August 2003 07:27 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:02, James Conner wrote:
> > I just installed MDK 9.1 on a friend's system and the fonts and icons
> > have a shadow to the right.  This is in KDM, KDE, and GNOME and possibly
> > more.  This was very noticiable right after install.  I updated freetype2
> > from texstar's site and installed the msfonts from there as well as
> > imported all the fonts from the Win2000 dual boot side(on another hard
> > drive).
>
> The "shadow" is intended Texstar's rpms have an actual feature in them
> that does shadow on the text for desktop text etc.  in the kcontrol
> center look and feel fonts you will find a check box for enable
> shadows.  Remove it and things should return to "normal"
>
> > I installed nvidia's
> > latest drivers(with success).  I've searched mandrakes mailing list
> > archives, the forum, nvidia's forum, google and anything else I could
> > think of.  It makes it very hard to read anything and a real strain on
> > the eyes.  I'm unsure of what to do or look at next.  This system had run
> > MDK 9.0 before just fine.  I did a screenshot with KSnapshot and it shows
> > up fine on my computer.  MDK 9.1 did detect the monitor and set the
> > resolution at 1024x768 with 24 bit color on install.  The monitor is a
> > Dell(Samsung) 17", unsure of the model right now.  I could get it if
> > needed.  Any ideas are appreciated.
> >
> > Jim

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Re: [expert] Password Question

[lorne]

On Wednesday 20 August 2003 07:24 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
> Okay So I just read an article that said mandrake 9.1 can reset any windoz
> password. Can any linux distro password for root or any other user be
> reset. Say if you forgot it?
>
Microsoft has given lip service that it is getting serious about security, yet 
they have the weakest password hash system of anyone out there. I have a 
linux floppy that I can use to change the password. I have a commercial CD 
that I can pop in and change any password. I can sniff they passwords over 
the wire and get anyones password in short order. 

Yes, there ARE tools to get into a linux system. The system has to come down 
though. Unless someone knows of some weakness to exploit I'm unaware of. 

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 21 August 2003 08:26 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

> I don't think it's a heat problem.  Besides, if it were so, just
> logging out wouldn't clear it, I think.
>
> Anne

Well, offhand, one thing that I can think of is that there is some issue with 
the arts daemon and interaction with drivers on your sound card.  My 
intermittent sound glitches seemed to get worse after enabling the arts sound 
daemon with the duplex functionality enabled.  That is what allows multiple 
applications to play sounds at the same time.  At the time, I figured that 
the sound driver didn't interact well with that functionality because the 
sound never had any glitches when I was using straight OSS which doesn't 
allow duplex activity.

You might try diabling arts to see if that fixes things and if so, you will at 
least know the neighborhood of the error, if not the exact cause.

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RE: [expert] Password Question

[Frankie]

Hi Jim,

I am not Anne, I suspect she is much nicer to look at them am I.

I can tell you with regards to windows security that on XP pro and home,
new users are created with admin rights.. you have to explicitly change
that if you want to.
Whereas in linux, a person doens't have admin rights unless you explicitly
give it to them.

As for linux being able to bypass windows passwords, if it can, then its
likely the same thing would be doable from any OS that can read NTFS..  not
just linux, so you might see the same thing from freedos or any *BSD
variant in the future.

Mandrake can actually resize NTFS partitions, so it would not surprise me
at all to learn you can use it to bypass windoze security.

If you want to stop being able to boot a linux CD, then password protect
your bios and stop the booting from CD or floppy.

At least then they will have to take the cover of your PC and reset the
bios to be able to do it.


regards

Franki

---

Not true Anne if you implement security in windows everyone is not a
admin.
But The fact that knnopix can access any windows file system is dangerous
to
me to run Windoze.

I read an article the other day that said mandrake 9.1 and other stuff can
easily reset Windoze passwords. Evewn the administrator one. I don't like
this. this is why I am asking this question.

I happen to love Linux. You don't have to convince me. I have to convince
my
bosses. IT Director. That is why I am asking these questions to the expert
group so I have more evidence that Windoze has to go.


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RE: [expert] Password Question

[Lawson, Jim]

Not true Anne if you implement security in windows everyone is not a
admin. 
But The fact that knnopix can access any windows file system is dangerous to
me to run Windoze.

I read an article the other day that said mandrake 9.1 and other stuff can
easily reset Windoze passwords. Evewn the administrator one. I don't like
this. this is why I am asking this question. 

I happen to love Linux. You don't have to convince me. I have to convince my
bosses. IT Director. That is why I am asking these questions to the expert
group so I have more evidence that Windoze has to go.

-Original Message-
From: Frankie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] Password Question


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 8:39 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [expert] Password Question
>
>
>Anne it is from a secruity postion. I want to find out ow much more secure
>Linux is than windows.
>

Well that is easy...

1. A file in linux is not executable until you tell it its executable.
   A file in Doze  IS exectuable by virtue of having an executable
extension. (.bat, .com, .exe etc).

2. In windows, everyone is the administrator, so anyone can totally trash
the system.
   In Linux, everyone is a user, so can only trash their own user space.

3. literally thousands of virus's/worms/trojans have been written for
windows.
   Literally a tiny handful of test virus/worms have been written for
linux.

4. Windoze is all open from scratch, and its up to the user to tighten it
up.
   Linux is by default much tighter then windows, and its easy to tighten
it up more. (for example with msec on mandrkae.)


As for the password issue, win95 provides practically no password
protection at all, and what little it does provide is easy enough to
circumvent.

NT/2000/XP/2003 are much better in that regard, but a ton of flaws have
been found to get around them as well.
(for one thing, apparently you can use a win2000 CD to access XP partition.

So, take your pick..

hundreds of government bodies that are switching to linux en mass after
years of windows dominance is a telling indicator of where their faith is..

Having said that, If you take a winXP or 2000 system, fully patch it.. get
rid of IIS, IE and outlook Express.
(replace with apache and mozilla browser and mozilla mail for windows
respectively)
and run a firewall and antivir program or two would be pretty secure
comparitively as well.

Still not as tight as a well concieved linux install, but pretty good none
the less.

But we are a linux list so I will not push you in that direction.
Also, keep in mind that the M$ version will cost you a whole heap more.


regards

Franki











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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Steffen Barszus]

Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 13:46 schrieb Anne Wilson:

Hi Anne !

> My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly
> frequently.  The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound
> corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more
> than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think).

Well I know that thing as it occurs here too. 

> (Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to
> pick up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it
> collecting from time to time over the night.)

no reason to argument ;). If you want do so, you should be able to do 
it. 

> The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds
> (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every
> sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but
> at high volume - best description I can find.  If I log out and in
> again the problem disappears.

Yep high frequent noise. As it was pointed out I think that this comes 
if more then one sound is played. On my system it was often caused by 
aplay that plays the system sound then mail has arrived. ( I have 
switched this crappy artsd off on my system. ) 

> Can anyone suggest a likely cause?


On my system a 'service alsa restart' has fixed this issue all the time. 
If you have arts running and a relogin fixes it, it may be arts. It is 
interesting tough, since I thought all the time it is a bad soundcard 
driver. I have a Terratec DMX Fire 1024 using cs46xx driver and with 
the switch from 9.0 to 9.1 it got a lot better, with 9.2 beta1 I have 
the feeling sound is even better again, but that may be subjective. On 
further problem I may have here is that I have some dma problems (not 
enough bandwith on pci I guess, caused by my dvb card and sound card 
and high system load => cdrdao cue-burning ) Never had such things with 
the onboard sound, but the Terratec sounds so much better i stay with 
restarting alsa ;) 

short: Possible fix: switching off system sound ;) 

Steffen

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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 3:07 pm, Dick Gevers wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:10 +0100, Anne Wilson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote about [expert] Sound corruption:
> >The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system
> > sounds (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there),
> > and every sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of
> > the throat, but at high volume - best description I can find.
>
> It`s a trojan horse rearing it`s head as it can`t find a windows
> kernel.
>
> >If I log out and in
> >again the problem disappears.
>
> Probably scared him into hiding.
>
LOL

Anne

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Re: [expert] Re: Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Daniel Anderson]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:35, Alex Fisher wrote:
> Daniel Anderson wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 06:25, ed tharp wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 02:31, Alex Fisher wrote:
> >> > Daniel Anderson wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > >> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> Question here.  Do you,
> >> > >> 1. Accept cookies
> >> > >> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> I wasn't doing either one.
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> James
> >> > > 
> >> > > I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted
> >> > > all cookies and history, still the same response.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Dan
> >> > 
> >> > It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my
> >> > browsers, that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or
> >> > rejection. I had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> >> > 
> >> > I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your
> >> > connection. It would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also
> >> > have a random factor built in to it's execution.
> >> > 
> >> > What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at
> >> > (yes I clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an
> >> > executable. I have no need of windows to know what this executable
> >> > does. Briefly, when you install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes
> >> > the speaker and redials to a 1900 number. The first most users know of
> >> > it is when they get a phone bill showing a call to an overseas
> >> > location, which was charged to them at a rate of roughly $10 (US) per
> >> > minute...
> >> > 
> >> > I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript
> >> > code).
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I am jumping rather late into this thread, and did not get the correct
> >> URL, or bandwidthplace does not redirect for me either, maybe it has to
> >> do with what your browser sends as the OS?
> > 
> > Mozilla, on this box is set to send win95. Had to do that to access my
> > online banking and DMV. But that doesn't explain the other boxes or
> > other brousers.
> 
> Nor does it explain why it didn't happen in Opera. Opera is set to send as
> IE5 on Win 98, yet didn't get redirected. Netscape sends the correct
> details. If they were looking for a specific OS, then it would be Windows,
> as the download can't run on Linux. If they were looking for a specific OS,
> then Opera would be redirected, and Netscape not...

I looked at the source on their home page, didn't see anything there
that could do it, someone suggested it may be done with dns, but
shouldn't that affect all brousers and others on this isp?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> __
> >> 
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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Dick Gevers]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:10 +0100, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about [expert] Sound corruption:

>The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds 
>(never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every 
>sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but 
>at high volume - best description I can find.

It`s a trojan horse rearing it`s head as it can`t find a windows kernel.

>If I log out and in 
>again the problem disappears.

Probably scared him into hiding.

Ciao,
=Dick Gevers=

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Re: [expert] Re: Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Charles A Edwards]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:35:02 +1000
Alex Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nor does it explain why it didn't happen in Opera. Opera is set to
> send as IE5 on Win 98, yet didn't get redirected. Netscape sends the
> correct details. If they were looking for a specific OS, then it would
> be Windows, as the download can't run on Linux. If they were looking
> for a specific OS, then Opera would be redirected, and Netscape not...

I just tried with Opera, galeon and mozilla, had no problem with any
of them.
Even got the same speed results from all 3.


Charles

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RE: [expert] Password Question

[Frankie]

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 8:39 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [expert] Password Question
>
>
>Anne it is from a secruity postion. I want to find out ow much more secure
>Linux is than windows.
>

Well that is easy...

1. A file in linux is not executable until you tell it its executable.
   A file in Doze  IS exectuable by virtue of having an executable
extension. (.bat, .com, .exe etc).

2. In windows, everyone is the administrator, so anyone can totally trash
the system.
   In Linux, everyone is a user, so can only trash their own user space.

3. literally thousands of virus's/worms/trojans have been written for
windows.
   Literally a tiny handful of test virus/worms have been written for
linux.

4. Windoze is all open from scratch, and its up to the user to tighten it
up.
   Linux is by default much tighter then windows, and its easy to tighten
it up more. (for example with msec on mandrkae.)


As for the password issue, win95 provides practically no password
protection at all, and what little it does provide is easy enough to
circumvent.

NT/2000/XP/2003 are much better in that regard, but a ton of flaws have
been found to get around them as well.
(for one thing, apparently you can use a win2000 CD to access XP partition.

So, take your pick..

hundreds of government bodies that are switching to linux en mass after
years of windows dominance is a telling indicator of where their faith is..

Having said that, If you take a winXP or 2000 system, fully patch it.. get
rid of IIS, IE and outlook Express.
(replace with apache and mozilla browser and mozilla mail for windows
respectively)
and run a firewall and antivir program or two would be pretty secure
comparitively as well.

Still not as tight as a well concieved linux install, but pretty good none
the less.

But we are a linux list so I will not push you in that direction.
Also, keep in mind that the M$ version will cost you a whole heap more.


regards

Franki










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[expert] Re: Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Alex Fisher]

Daniel Anderson wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 06:25, ed tharp wrote:
>> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 02:31, Alex Fisher wrote:
>> > Daniel Anderson wrote:
>> > 
>> > >> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
>> > >> 
>> > >> Question here.  Do you,
>> > >> 1. Accept cookies
>> > >> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
>> > >> 
>> > >> I wasn't doing either one.
>> > >> 
>> > >> James
>> > > 
>> > > I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted
>> > > all cookies and history, still the same response.
>> > > 
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Dan
>> > 
>> > It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my
>> > browsers, that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or
>> > rejection. I had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
>> > 
>> > I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your
>> > connection. It would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also
>> > have a random factor built in to it's execution.
>> > 
>> > What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at
>> > (yes I clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an
>> > executable. I have no need of windows to know what this executable
>> > does. Briefly, when you install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes
>> > the speaker and redials to a 1900 number. The first most users know of
>> > it is when they get a phone bill showing a call to an overseas
>> > location, which was charged to them at a rate of roughly $10 (US) per
>> > minute...
>> > 
>> > I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript
>> > code).
>> 
>> 
>> I am jumping rather late into this thread, and did not get the correct
>> URL, or bandwidthplace does not redirect for me either, maybe it has to
>> do with what your browser sends as the OS?
> 
> Mozilla, on this box is set to send win95. Had to do that to access my
> online banking and DMV. But that doesn't explain the other boxes or
> other brousers.

Nor does it explain why it didn't happen in Opera. Opera is set to send as
IE5 on Win 98, yet didn't get redirected. Netscape sends the correct
details. If they were looking for a specific OS, then it would be Windows,
as the download can't run on Linux. If they were looking for a specific OS,
then Opera would be redirected, and Netscape not...
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> __
>> 
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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 1:15 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> On Thursday 21 August 2003 07:46 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly
> > frequently.  The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound
> > corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for
> > more than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think).
> >
> > (Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to
> > pick up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it
> > collecting from time to time over the night.)
>
> I have fetchmail running to collect mail, at least to the spool but
> it runs in daemon mode, so I don't need to be logged in for this
> occur.  Might not be what you want but I don't see a connection
> between the sound problems and being logged in short of regular
> noise being pumped through the system due to a desktop being up.
>
Setting up a better mail collection system is one of those jobs that I 
keep meaning to do .  I do have a wav attached to kmail's 
notifier, as the system beep is not loud enough to catch my attention 
if I'm doing things away from the computer.  This has not always been 
so, it was very loud at first, but after about a week I began to have 
this quieter sound.  I have played with aumix and kmix, to no avail.

Of course, much of the mail on the mdk lists comes from USA and 
Canada, so arrives during the night for me, so there could be a 
fairly regular use of the wav file - it polls every three minutes.

> I assume that you have a GUI up all the time, not just logged into
> the console...
>
Yup - kmail is fetching, under kde.

> > The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system
> > sounds (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there),
> > and every sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of
> > the throat, but at high volume - best description I can find.  If
> > I log out and in again the problem disappears.
>
> I have noticed weird catches in my sound as well, at odd times, but
> mostly after doing things with multiple sounds being pumped through
> Arts.  I have always though it was some type of issue with the
> fairly new sound hardware on my motherboard.  Figured that better
> drivers would come out in the next version or so.
>
I guess we'll soon know the answer to that.

> > Can anyone suggest a likely cause?
>
> Perhaps heat from the active system?  Is the case cooled well?  Did
> this just start to happen or has it been an ongoing thing?

I don't think it's a heat problem.  Besides, if it were so, just 
logging out wouldn't clear it, I think.

Anne

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RE: [expert] Password Question

[Lawson, Jim]

Anne it is from a secruity postion. I want to find out ow much more secure
Linux is than windows.

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Password Question


On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 6:10 pm, ed tharp wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 10:55, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 10:24 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
> > > Okay So I just read an article that said mandrake 9.1 can reset
> > > any windoz password. Can any linux distro password for root or
> > > any other user be reset. Say if you forgot it?
> > >
> > > James S. Lawson
> > > Network Administrator
> >
> > The only way that I know of to do this is to bring the computer
> > up in Single User mode and reset root password from there.  You
> > should be able to do that by putting options in Lilo at boot to
> > bring up Linux in single user mode.
> >
> > If you have password protected Lilo, I am not sure that you can
> > reset the root password without some type of reinstall.
>
> and you can password protect the BIOS. and lock the door to the
> room the box is held in.

Perhaps I'm being thick, but I thought he was concerned about 
passwords in his windows partition?

Anne


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Re: [expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Daniel Anderson]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 06:25, ed tharp wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 02:31, Alex Fisher wrote:
> > Daniel Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > >> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
> > >> 
> > >> Question here.  Do you,
> > >> 1. Accept cookies
> > >> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
> > >> 
> > >> I wasn't doing either one.
> > >> 
> > >> James
> > > 
> > > I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted all
> > > cookies and history, still the same response.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > 
> > It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my browsers,
> > that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or rejection. I
> > had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> > 
> > I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection. It
> > would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random factor
> > built in to it's execution.
> > 
> > What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes I
> > clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I have no
> > need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when you
> > install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials to a
> > 1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a phone bill
> > showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to them at a rate
> > of roughly $10 (US) per minute...
> > 
> > I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript code).
> 
> 
> I am jumping rather late into this thread, and did not get the correct
> URL, or bandwidthplace does not redirect for me either, maybe it has to
> do with what your browser sends as the OS?

Mozilla, on this box is set to send win95. Had to do that to access my
online banking and DMV. But that doesn't explain the other boxes or
other brousers.

Thanks,
Dan
> 
> 
> 
> __
> 
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Re: [expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Daniel Anderson]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 02:31, Alex Fisher wrote:
> Daniel Anderson wrote:
> 
> >> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
> >> 
> >> Question here.  Do you,
> >> 1. Accept cookies
> >> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
> >> 
> >> I wasn't doing either one.
> >> 
> >> James
> > 
> > I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted all
> > cookies and history, still the same response.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> 
> It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my browsers,
> that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or rejection. I
> had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> 
> I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection. It
> would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random factor
> built in to it's execution.
> 
> What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes I
> clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I have no
> need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when you
> install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials to a
> 1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a phone bill
> showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to them at a rate
> of roughly $10 (US) per minute...
> 
> I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript code).


I suspected that too, but I have javascript turned off, cgi maybe?

Thanks,
Dan 
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Re: [expert] Sound corruption

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 21 August 2003 07:46 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly
> frequently.  The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound
> corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more
> than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think).
>
> (Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to pick
> up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it collecting
> from time to time over the night.)

I have fetchmail running to collect mail, at least to the spool but it runs in 
daemon mode, so I don't need to be logged in for this occur.  Might not be 
what you want but I don't see a connection between the sound problems and 
being logged in short of regular noise being pumped through the system due to 
a desktop being up.

I assume that you have a GUI up all the time, not just logged into the 
console...
>
> The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds
> (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every
> sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but
> at high volume - best description I can find.  If I log out and in
> again the problem disappears.

I have noticed weird catches in my sound as well, at odd times, but mostly 
after doing things with multiple sounds being pumped through Arts.  I have 
always though it was some type of issue with the fairly new sound hardware on 
my motherboard.  Figured that better drivers would come out in the next 
version or so.
>
> Can anyone suggest a likely cause?

Perhaps heat from the active system?  Is the case cooled well?  Did this just 
start to happen or has it been an ongoing thing?

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RE: [expert] Dynamic DNS service provider

[Brandon Vanderberg]

> I need to choose one, but I'm not sure _how_ to go about it.
> All all the features pretty much the same from provider to
> provider? Any recommendations?
> 
> Miark

I like changeip. www.changeip.com Don't know much about the features
with other providers, but changeip offers the following;
Free transfers,
dynamic DNS Sets,
port redirection, (nice for when isps block 25 or 80)
backup smtp server,
pop3 servers,
web mail, send and read email from your own account from anywhere
no ads,
great support,
and really good pricing.
HTH,

Brandon

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[expert] Sound corruption

[Anne Wilson]

My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly 
frequently.  The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound 
corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more 
than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think).  

(Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to pick 
up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it collecting 
from time to time over the night.)

The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds 
(never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every 
sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but 
at high volume - best description I can find.  If I log out and in 
again the problem disappears.

Can anyone suggest a likely cause?

Anne

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Re: [expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 02:31, Alex Fisher wrote:
> Daniel Anderson wrote:
> 
> >> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
> >> 
> >> Question here.  Do you,
> >> 1. Accept cookies
> >> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
> >> 
> >> I wasn't doing either one.
> >> 
> >> James
> > 
> > I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted all
> > cookies and history, still the same response.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> 
> It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my browsers,
> that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or rejection. I
> had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> 
> I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection. It
> would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random factor
> built in to it's execution.
> 
> What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes I
> clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I have no
> need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when you
> install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials to a
> 1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a phone bill
> showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to them at a rate
> of roughly $10 (US) per minute...
> 
> I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript code).


I am jumping rather late into this thread, and did not get the correct
URL, or bandwidthplace does not redirect for me either, maybe it has to
do with what your browser sends as the OS?


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Re: [expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 03:22, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 23:31, Alex Fisher wrote:
> > Daniel Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > >> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
> > >> 
> > >> Question here.  Do you,
> > >> 1. Accept cookies
> > >> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
> > >> 
> > >> I wasn't doing either one.
> > >> 
> > >> James
> > > 
> > > I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted all
> > > cookies and history, still the same response.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > 
> > It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my browsers,
> > that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or rejection. I
> > had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> > 
> > I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection. It
> > would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random factor
> > built in to it's execution.
> > 
> > What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes I
> > clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I have no
> > need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when you
> > install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials to a
> > 1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a phone bill
> > showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to them at a rate
> > of roughly $10 (US) per minute...
> > 
> > I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript code).
> 
> Could well be a rouge man in the middle hijack.  In other words it's not
> your browser but rather your DNS.   Although I don't understand the
> methodology I'm told that it is possible to "fake" or otherwise override
> DNS so that people are redirected who don't want to be.  (This may
> explain why I get the right site and others don't)   Other option is
> that if they have their load balancing hosed it could be like a phone
> system we had.  6 lines and if line one was busy it went to 2 then 3 etc
> etc.  And all of our numbers where sequential.  One day we got a call
> from a gentleman.  Yep, he had the next number after us, and the phone
> company system was sending our calls to him when all 6 numbers where
> busy. 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
I have looked into (slightly) the type of redirect Alex was mentioning,
(see http://www.wsbtv.com/video/2005705/detail.html and www.alyon.net)
as this second one is one of the 'billing' resources this scam uses)and
I am pretty sure they can _not_ redirect IP blocks that they are sure
are from certain areas, where the law is already wise to them.

I also recommend every time a URL comes to your attention like this,
fire off an e-mail to with the URL to your LOCAL State Attorney General.
almost every state has ongoing investigations into this scam. and offer
to help them use linux.  


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RE: [expert] [OT] Microsoft advocates OSS

[Frankie]

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim C
>Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 5:52 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [expert] [OT] Microsoft advocates OSS
>
>
>
>>http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=MICROSOFT-1BLK,65.52
>.0.0,65.55.255.255
>>
>>This is an uptime report for the enitre Microsoft netblock, they sure
>>are using a lot of Linux and FreeBSD (not to mention moving a lot of
>>their sites to akamai on Linux).
>>
>>But the funniest part are the average and maximum uptimes.
>>Linux shows uptimes arround 300-350, while the windows guru's seem
>>unable to keep their systems up for the same amount.  They peek at
>>arround 150!
>>
>>Yep Bill is becoming a real fan ;-)
>>  
>>
>Well like anyone who can hire the very best business managers, Bill & 
>co. can see the hand writing on the wall.  This is why that same group 
>of folks owns huge shares in open source companies like RedHat.  Not 
>because they want to shut these companies down but rather because they 
>recognize that Windows market dominence wont last forever.  It can't 
>simply because thier business model of selling media liscences will 
>eventually be out of date i.e. static media (such as any sort of 
>recording) becomes so cheap to manipulate and transmit over time that it 
>becomes a loseing battle.  Microsoft knows this which is why they 
>started really working hard to diversify thier assets.  I woudn't be 
>surprised at all to evenually see an open source verison of Windows or 
>to see them adopt Linux in the next 10-15 years.
>
>Jim C.

Lol, I can see the headlines now...

Microsoft contracts "cancer" and is happy about it..


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RE: [expert] resolv.conf

[Frankie]

As I understand it, zeroconf is sposed to be to linux what netbeui is to
windoze
or what appletalk is to macs.

A quick google search shows that is the case.
http://www.zeroconf.org/

bascially, when it works, you plug a few mandrake machines into a hub, and
they allocate themselves and allow networking with no config work.

I don't know if i like it, but i see the reason for it.

(having said that, I always setup my network by hand, editing the files to
suit.. so I have no need to use it.)

rgds

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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim C
>Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 4:22 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [expert] resolv.conf
>
>
>
>>Just a quick note on this..  I find it better to run the command
>>"service tmdns stop"  then "chkconfig --del tmdns"  as if tmdns was
>>removed with "rpm -e" it gets installed and enabled again, when one
>>configures their network with drakconf..  It's just better to switch it
>>off.. When it is just switched off, drakconf does not re-enabled it.
>>
>>One thing I never worked out why did mandrake go for Zeroconf stuff when
>>no-one knows what it is..I certainly did not make any of it work,
>>and if anything all it does is make a mess of the resolv.conf file..
>>
>>
>I'll second this.  I sure would like to know what it is good for.  It
>must be good for something.
>
>Jim C.
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [expert] [OT] Microsoft advocates OSS

[J.C. Woods]

Jim C wrote:


http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=MICROSOFT-1BLK,65.52.0.0,65.55.255.255 

This is an uptime report for the enitre Microsoft netblock, they sure
are using a lot of Linux and FreeBSD (not to mention moving a lot of
their sites to akamai on Linux).
But the funniest part are the average and maximum uptimes.
Linux shows uptimes arround 300-350, while the windows guru's seem
unable to keep their systems up for the same amount.  They peek at
arround 150!
Yep Bill is becoming a real fan ;-)
 

Well like anyone who can hire the very best business managers, Bill & 
co. can see the hand writing on the wall.  This is why that same group 
of folks owns huge shares in open source companies like RedHat.  Not 
because they want to shut these companies down but rather because they 
recognize that Windows market dominence wont last forever.  It can't 
simply because thier business model of selling media liscences will 
eventually be out of date i.e. static media (such as any sort of 
recording) becomes so cheap to manipulate and transmit over time that 
it becomes a loseing battle.  Microsoft knows this which is why they 
started really working hard to diversify thier assets.  I woudn't be 
surprised at all to evenually see an open source verison of Windows or 
to see them adopt Linux in the next 10-15 years.

Jim C.

Subtle but very significant distinction: Microsoft does not have "market 
dominence" in the server market. UNIX, along with Linux hold market 
dominence where Microsoft will never have it, the enterprise environment.

drjung

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UNIX Network/System Engineer
http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.htm
Let him that would move the world, first move himself.
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[expert] Creative Inspire 2.1 speakers...

[John McQuillen]

Hi guys,

I have just installed the above mentioned speakers on my Mandrake 9.1
box and am having trouble with very low volume out of the left speaker.
My nephew says he had the same trouble with his under Windows, however
he fixed it (he thinks) in the speaker properties in the OS.

I did manage to get both channels to work properly last night after
fiddling with the volume controls in kmix, however, it has gone back to
how it was and no amount of fiddling with the faders is helping this
time... In Gnome, the volume control applet is also no help, however, I
notice that when I separate the left and right volume faders, the left
volume control seems to affect the subwoofer volume more than the right
one does (or maybe it is just an aural illusion!).

Has anyone else here experienced this issue, and what do I need to do to
fix it?

Thanks for any help,

John...

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Re: [expert] Re: Software to record DVD-R/RW?

[Mark Williamson]

On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 16:59, Helge Hielscher wrote:
> Am Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:03:22 +1000 schrieb Mark Williamson:
> > 
> > I tried using the cdrecord-dvdhack on a late very late model Sony DVD-RW 
> > device, but all it did was failed, it just couldn't recognise the media.. 
> > later i switched to growiosfs, and used that with Mondo backup, with full
> > success and excellent results.
> 
> Do you have a link to growiosfs?

It's a part of the "dvd+rw-tools" package, probably "urpmi dvd+rw-tools"
will do the trick, 

There's a sort of a tutorial at
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ 

Hmm  it's confusing..   

Just to use growisofs you will NOT need to patch your kernel. 

Just experiment with commands like..
growisofs -Z /dev/scd0 -R -J /some/files
growisofs -M /dev/scd0 -R -J /more/files

Yes you will have to work it out a little..   but the results are excellent.

Cheers
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Re: [expert] GnomeMeeting

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:27 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 03:36 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I see that on the GM webpages there are rpms for a version later
> > than that included in 9.1  The packages offered are
> >
> > gnomemeeting-0.98.0-1js.i586.rpm
> > openh323-1.12.0-1.i586.rpm
> > pwlib-1.5.0-1.i586.rpm
> >
> > Has anyone installed these?  Should I expect any problems?  I
> > imagine I should urpme the old version first?
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne, I d/l'ed those files and installed them (removed ye "olde"
> versions first). Gnomemeeting now works here, at least it does give
> me a picture.
>
OK - when I have a little time I'll do that.

> IF I run it as root. If I run it from my normal user account I get
> the same error message that you and I ran into before. It says that
> it can't read /dev/video0.
>
Worrying.  ATM I have to go dmz to videoconference, so I definitely 
wouldn't want it to be as root.  I need to find out about H.232 
tunneling and proxying to get round this, but I don't seem to be 
finding the right starting place for learning.

> I su'ered, changed the permissions to 777 (yeah I know - just
> temporarily to see if I could get it to work), group and owner to
> my normal user account, and stillit won't let my normal user
> access video0. I went into userdrake and added every group I could
> find/think of that might affect this, still no go.
>
It does sound like a permissions problem.  Perhaps someone else 
reading this might realise what we're missing.

> So...I'm stumped. I don't want to run any app as root that I don't
> have to, especially considering it would be connected online.
>
> You can try it there - maybe it will work for you? If so, please
> tell me what
>
> ls -al /dev/video0
>
> shows for you.
>
I don't have time to do it right now, but as soon as I can get a spell 
of uninterrupted I'll d/l those files and install.  I know that 
/dev/video0 was created, but of course it's dynamic and tends to 
disappear when not needed.  As soon as I got it loaded GM did at 
least let me say that I wanted the image from there, not 'Picture', 
though it didn't work.  I don't remember what the permissions were, 
though.  I'll check it out as soon as I can.

I'll get back to you.

Anne


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Re: [expert] Password Question

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 1:15 am, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 11:31, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 6:10 pm, ed tharp wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 10:55, Bryan Phinney wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 10:24 am, Lawson, Jim wrote:
> > > > > Okay So I just read an article that said mandrake 9.1 can
> > > > > reset any windoz password. Can any linux distro password
> > > > > for root or any other user be reset. Say if you forgot it?
> > > > >
> > > > > James S. Lawson
> > > > > Network Administrator
> > > >
> > > > The only way that I know of to do this is to bring the
> > > > computer up in Single User mode and reset root password from
> > > > there.  You should be able to do that by putting options in
> > > > Lilo at boot to bring up Linux in single user mode.
> > > >
> > > > If you have password protected Lilo, I am not sure that you
> > > > can reset the root password without some type of reinstall.
> > >
> > > and you can password protect the BIOS. and lock the door to the
> > > room the box is held in.
> >
> > Perhaps I'm being thick, but I thought he was concerned about
> > passwords in his windows partition?
> >
> > Anne
>
> and wanted to change them. Which is why I recommended TRK. It could
> be done with a Mandrake disk if you were exceedingly clever and
> knew what you wanted to do, but Trinity Rescue Kit has prebuilt
> tools for this task

Ah - I see.  I don't know TRK, but I can see that it would be an 
excellent tool for sysadmins.  I was confused because most of the 
answers seemed to be pointing towards changing his root password - or 
so I thought.  Never mind, I'll go back to sleep 

Anne

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Re: [expert] Dynamic DNS service provider

[David Guntner]

Miark grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> I need to choose one, but I'm not sure _how_ to go about it.
> All all the features pretty much the same from provider to
> provider? Any recommendations?

I like no-ip.com, myself.  They've got a Linux updater that knows what to 
do with a broadband router (NAT).

--Dave
-- 
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Re: [expert] Any way to chroot jail a user?

[David Guntner]

Robert W. grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 21:05, David Guntner wrote:
> > Jack Coates grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 22:47, David Guntner wrote:
> > > > I have a user login name that is used to run a game server process
> > > > (Neverwinter Nights, if it matters :).
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know if it's possible for a remote user to crash the game process
> > > > in a way which would leave them sitting in a shell, but since I don't know
> > > > that the chances are 0%, I'm thinking that having the login name chroot
> > > > jailed to its home directory would limit the damage that someone could do
> > > > if they *did* somehow manage to end up in a shell via a server process
> > > > crash.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a way to to this?
> > > 
> > > Look at the user's line in /etc/password. At the end is the shell
> > > they'll be given. chroot them there.
> 
> 
> What about changing the shell to "/bin/false". Will that prevent them
> getting a login shell? 

If I can't login as the player set up to run the server, it will be kind of 
hard to start up screen and then start the actual server program :-)

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Re: [expert] Font and icon problems

[James Sparenberg]

On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:02, James Conner wrote:
> I just installed MDK 9.1 on a friend's system and the fonts and icons have a 
> shadow to the right.  This is in KDM, KDE, and GNOME and possibly more.  This 
> was very noticiable right after install.  I updated freetype2 from texstar's 
> site and installed the msfonts from there as well as imported all the fonts 
> from the Win2000 dual boot side(on another hard drive).  

The "shadow" is intended Texstar's rpms have an actual feature in them
that does shadow on the text for desktop text etc.  in the kcontrol
center look and feel fonts you will find a check box for enable
shadows.  Remove it and things should return to "normal"


> I installed nvidia's 
> latest drivers(with success).  I've searched mandrakes mailing list archives, 
> the forum, nvidia's forum, google and anything else I could think of.  It 
> makes it very hard to read anything and a real strain on the eyes.  I'm 
> unsure of what to do or look at next.  This system had run MDK 9.0 before 
> just fine.  I did a screenshot with KSnapshot and it shows up fine on my 
> computer.  MDK 9.1 did detect the monitor and set the resolution at 1024x768 
> with 24 bit color on install.  The monitor is a Dell(Samsung) 17", unsure of 
> the model right now.  I could get it if needed.  Any ideas are appreciated.
> 
> Jim


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Re: [expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[James Sparenberg]

On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 23:31, Alex Fisher wrote:
> Daniel Anderson wrote:
> 
> >> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
> >> 
> >> Question here.  Do you,
> >> 1. Accept cookies
> >> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
> >> 
> >> I wasn't doing either one.
> >> 
> >> James
> > 
> > I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted all
> > cookies and history, still the same response.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> 
> It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my browsers,
> that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or rejection. I
> had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.
> 
> I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection. It
> would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random factor
> built in to it's execution.
> 
> What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes I
> clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I have no
> need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when you
> install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials to a
> 1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a phone bill
> showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to them at a rate
> of roughly $10 (US) per minute...
> 
> I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript code).

Could well be a rouge man in the middle hijack.  In other words it's not
your browser but rather your DNS.   Although I don't understand the
methodology I'm told that it is possible to "fake" or otherwise override
DNS so that people are redirected who don't want to be.  (This may
explain why I get the right site and others don't)   Other option is
that if they have their load balancing hosed it could be like a phone
system we had.  6 lines and if line one was busy it went to 2 then 3 etc
etc.  And all of our numbers where sequential.  One day we got a call
from a gentleman.  Yep, he had the next number after us, and the phone
company system was sending our calls to him when all 6 numbers where
busy. 

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[expert] Re: Re: brouser gets redirected

[Alex Fisher]

Daniel Anderson wrote:

>> > Any ideas why this redirection is happening or how to fix it?
>> 
>> Question here.  Do you,
>> 1. Accept cookies
>> 2. Accept cookies from a 3rd party server.
>> 
>> I wasn't doing either one.
>> 
>> James
> 
> I have disabled cookies in both konqueror and mozilla, and deleted all
> cookies and history, still the same response.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan

It's not a cookie problem. I have the same requirement in all my browsers,
that requires all cookies to be displayed for acceptance or rejection. I
had no cookies from any site when I was redirected.

I suspect a CGI or javascript is involved, which hijacks your connection. It
would seem that it might be browser-specific, and also have a random factor
built in to it's execution.

What I found interesting was that the site I eventually ended up at (yes I
clicked to see where it led) wanted me to download an executable. I have no
need of windows to know what this executable does. Briefly, when you
install it, it disconnects your modem, mutes the speaker and redials to a
1900 number. The first most users know of it is when they get a phone bill
showing a call to an overseas location, which was charged to them at a rate
of roughly $10 (US) per minute...

I think bandwidthplace needs to check their servers (and javascript code).
-- 
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Community Contact, Australia


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