Re: [expert] fonts in 7.0
Just install the DrakFont RPM from the 7.1 distro. :-) Otherwise, you have to copy TTF files (ensuring the extension is lowercase), then run ttmkfdir, etc, as described in several different tutorials written much more clearly than I write. I've grabbed the DrakFont RPM and am using it on a 7.0-2 setup without a problem, much simpler than the manual method I used just a few months ago. On 20 Jun, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote: > Is there an easy way to add windows fonts for usage in Linux with 7.0 ?? > -- --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] 7.1 install multi-disk question/gripe
The disk is referred to often as the "Extras" disk, the ISO is merely EXT, but the install refers to it as Extension. Notice the EXT that seems to be common throughout? :-) On 19 Jun, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: >> You're really making this more difficult than necessary. All you need >> is the first box checked, didn't it say extra like on the paper envelope >> that the disc was in? The second and third check boxes say >> applications, you didn't want those did you? >> >> -- Armand >> > My question is, during the install (custom/workstation/install) I was >> > asked which of 3 additional disks did I have and none of the titles >> > given for the three matched that which was on either of my disks >> > (Mandrake 7.1 Install i586 and Mandrake 7.1 Extras i586). >> -- >> Fri Jun 16 10:25:00 MDT 2000 > > Had it said "extra" I wouldn't have written. -- --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Post-upgrade blues
Running imwheel is not the problem, just running it after root has. If I boot the GUI as root, it automatically runs imwheel (haven't found the specific location to make it stop that yet), and when I leave the windowmanager, it leaves the pid file in /tmp. With the pid file there, imwheel won't run again, because it is convinced it is already running. No matter, I've given up on 7.1 and downgraded back to 7.0-2. It works more reliably for me. On 16 Jun, John Aldrich wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, you wrote: >> >> BTW, why does IMWheel leave its root-only PID file in the /tmp >> directory after Root logs out? Real bitch to SU in a terminal just to >> let imwheel run normally as a user. >> > chmod a+x imwheel will fix that. Then, ANYONE will be able > to use imwheel. > John -- --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] Post-upgrade blues
OK, maybe someone can help me before I resort to downgrading back to Mandrake 7.0-2... I upgraded to 7.1 from 7.0-2, everything went fine yada yada yada. Now, Canvas and Toppage will no longer run. TopPage doesn't even give an error, it just starts then dies. I assumed a WINE problem, so I uninstalled the WINE RPM, then installed the customized versions that each program needs (one at a time). No luck. Help Also, when I exit Windowmaker, about 70% of the time it coredumps on me. BTW, why does IMWheel leave its root-only PID file in the /tmp directory after Root logs out? Real bitch to SU in a terminal just to let imwheel run normally as a user. -- --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] gAIM 0.9.17 rpm or binary
I'm running the latest (0.9.17) release, and the RPM is available at the home of Gaim. I believe that is www.marko.net/gaim On 2 Jun, Alan N. wrote: > Jesse McDonnell wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, John Kofinas wrote: >> >> > > AOL's servers began giving No configuration errors to gaim users! -- --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] GAIM TiK etc.
Last night, I was able to connect to AIM via Gaim without a problem, even held a conversation or two. This morning, I get a "no configuration" error which makes no sense. So, I try the old TiK client, officially released by AOL a while back. No joy there either, it connects and then disconnects a few seconds later. The Java client works, but it's Java, c'mon, let me use AIM to talk to my idiot friends who don't use ICQ. Does anyone know if AOL has been playing with their servers again? -- --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] HDPARM at boot
I've tested both drives with the -c and -d options manually, and the drives work just fine and dandy. The read-ahead options tend to cause problems, though. Regardless, they DO get reset back to the default 16-bit, no-DMA settings by the time the bootup is finished. As soon as I login and check settings, they're "non-optimized" again. On 23 May, Denis HAVLIK wrote: > Have you tried the settings manually? What happens? I do not think HD-s > should be reseted after execution of this script. Strange. > --- Illigitmi non carborundum http://andysocial.com
[expert] HDPARM at boot
Hmm, shouldn't there be a -k in the list of options? My understanding of hdparm is that, without the -k, the settings may not stick. I know on my system, I get the "Starting Hard Drive optimisations for /dev/hda" (and hdb) messages at boottime, but if I run hdparm to check the settings later, they're not set. I've got relatively new drives, and at LEAST the 32-bit options should stick. On 22 May, Denis HAVLIK wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Colin L. Whipple wrote: > > :~>It would also be nice to have a little more info about what the "hard disk > :~>optimizations" means. Just how likely is it that problems will result from > :~>checking that box? What is being optimized? > > Instead of giving you a fish, I'll try to learn you fishing .-) > > see "/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime" file: > > > if [ -x /sbin/hdparm ];then > LIST_HD=$(grep '^hd.:' /var/log/dmesg|\ > grep -ivE '(CD.*ROM|DVD.*ROM|FLOPPY|TAPE|STATUS)'|cut > -d: -f1|sort|u > niq) > > if grep -i nohdparm /proc/cmdline >/dev/null ; then > action "Hard Drive optimisations disabled" \ > echo "" > else > for i in $LIST_HD;do > action "Starting Hard Drive optimisations for $i" \ > hdparm -q -c1 -q -A1 -q -m16 -q -d1 /dev/$i > done > fi > fi > --- Illigitmi non carborundum http://andysocial.com
[expert] LICQ 0.81
OK, I have read all I can find at the LICQ.org site, and the programmer seems to have a short fuse so I hesitate to write to him directly. I've been using LICQ 0.81 for a month or so, and then had a problem with my hard drive requiring a new installation. Now, when I install LICQ, with all the QT files it claims to need (1.44 and 2.1), and even adding the LICQ-Data files, I get an error that the control to open the window is not defined in the file licq_qt-gui.so and then it won't open. How do I make it function? The readmes that come with the RPMs seem to assume a higher understanding of QT peculiarities than I (a power-user but still not a programmer) would have. Has anyone else installed LICQ 0.81 on a standard MDK 7.0-2 system? Thanks for any assistance. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] NS Communicator Java crashes
Alexander- Yeah, pretty much EVERYBODY has the same problem. Netscape doesn't handle Java very well. Nearly everyone I know of that uses Linux turns off Java support in Netscape to avoid having to kill the rogue process every 30 minutes or so. On 10 May, Alexander Feigl wrote: > Hi! > > I have problems using Java pages with Netscape Communicator and MDK 7.0. (also > tried downloaded browser). NS crashes when loading a page with Java. > > Anybody have the same problem? Fixes? > > Alexander -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] xcdroast
Due to differences in the basic composition of CD-R and CD-RW disks, a CD-RW will not register in a standard CD player, nor in many CD-ROM drives. You'll need to burn it to a CD-R to use it outside your computer. BTW, when I first do something different with CD burning, I always burn a CDRW to test out my plan. That way, I don't make more coasters than I need. :-) On 7 May, Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote: > I have a TEAC CDRW. I tried burning an audioi CD with xcdroast on a CDRW > disk. The copy works fine on my computer cdrom drive, but when I try to play > it thro' an audi system the CD is not recognized. Is there any parametrs to > set while recording. Or should I use a plain CDR disk to copy the CD? > -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] XMMS
You can't mount an audio CD, so that's not a problem. Here's the series of steps I take to use XMMS with CDs. Hope it's easy to follow: Open Playlist, and say "New List" to clear out anything that might be in the way. Choose Dir + (add Directory), then move to the /mnt/cdrom and hit OK. Up pops the full CD, and after a couple seconds the CDDB listing of the tracks appears. YMMV On 7 May, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:20:45PM -0700, AG wrote: > -> Just select +DIR from the playlist buttons and select the mount point of your > -> CD as the directory. > > That didn't work for me. I tried mounting the CD, but it didn't like the > default file system. How do I specify the file system at mount time? > > Selecting /dev/cdrom did not work, possibly because the user only has read > permissions on the CD-ROM drive. (brw-r--r-- 2 root disk 11, 0 May 5 1998 > cdrom) -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] Sendmail oddness
I've noticed an odd message in my /var/log/maillog file recently, that I don't recall seeing last week or so. I've changed nothing in my mail setup since then, and the IP it is showing if for the VMWare internal network, so I don't understand why it's in there. Any ideas? Here's the line that pops up at seemingly random times: May 3 07:15:29 black-ice-pilot sendmail[7129]: gethostbyaddr(172.16.30.1) failed: 1 -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] What rpm is telnetd in?
You only need the telnet Daemon running if you intend to telnet into your machine. The Client can run without a local daemon, it just needs a daemon on the server it wishes to communicate with. Therefore, there is no need to install the TelnetD package unless you plan to host telnet services. Unless I'm completely insane and mistaken about all the Unix and VMS stuff I've been using for the past 10 years, this is a normal way of doing client/server stuff. On 30 Apr, Russ Johnson wrote: > Um, yes you do. A client without a daemon is like a key without a lock. > > Either way. Linux does not use "telnetd", it uses the superserver "inetd" > and then that calls "in.telnetd" to start the inbound login session. That > is what is installed by the telnet-server rpm. > > On my systems, the "telnetd" is a subdirectory in /usr/lib, that contains > the binary "login", which will be needed no matter whether you allow > inbound telnet or not. > > Russ > > Gary Bunker wrote: > >> Of course the client and server are separate packages. However, >> telnetd is the telnet Daemon, and is therefore part of the SERVER. You >> don't need a daemon for a client. >> >> On 30 Apr, John Aldrich wrote: >> > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, you wrote: >> >> >> >> But then how come I have telnetd but don't have telnet-server? >> >> >> > Listen closely as I repeat myself: THE TELNET SERVER IS A >> > SEPARATE PACKAGE Just because you have "telnetd" does >> > NOT mean you have telnet-server installed! That is a >> > SEPARATE PACKAGE FROM TELNET!!! Apparently, Mandrake, in >> >> -- >> >> --- >> Nil Carborundum Illegitimi >> http://andysocial.com -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] What rpm is telnetd in?
Of course the client and server are separate packages. However, telnetd is the telnet Daemon, and is therefore part of the SERVER. You don't need a daemon for a client. On 30 Apr, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, you wrote: >> >> But then how come I have telnetd but don't have telnet-server? >> > Listen closely as I repeat myself: THE TELNET SERVER IS A > SEPARATE PACKAGE Just because you have "telnetd" does > NOT mean you have telnet-server installed! That is a > SEPARATE PACKAGE FROM TELNET!!! Apparently, Mandrake, in -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] anyone using toppage ?
Do you mean that you are completely unwilling to pay for any of the software you use? On 28 Apr, Ron Stodden wrote: > John Murphy wrote: > >> The whole thing is worth the effort it's a pretty nice program. Does it all >> from creating web pages, text art, animation, then uploads it for you to your >> web site. > > But only till 2000 12 31. What use is that? Answer: None, to me. > -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] ntp
I use xntpd and have no problems, no cron jobs to maintain, etc. I just have it run at boot, with a few public timeservers in the xntpd.conf file. Keeps the clock perfectly synchronized, even during the change to Daylight Savings Time. It seems to me the rdate/hwclock combo is a bit of a kludge, no? Of course, the ntp daemon only makes sense if you have an always-on connection to the net. As for Ken's original query, I'm afraid I only know the quirks of xntpd, not ntpd so I'm not sure what the problem might be. I assume you do have the ntp daemon running with root permissions and all that, right? > ken crist wrote: > > > Is anyone out there using ntp on a Linux Mandrake Pentium computer? >> > >> > Perhaps someone knows of a tool other than ntp for setting the clock >> > similar to those that are available for windows. I wanted to be able to >> > do the same thing in Linux. > Civileme wrote: > > at boot in rc.local > > rdate -s tick.gatech.edu > hwclock --systohc > > You can also abandon ntp altogether and hand cron that two-line > script to execute now and then--I have it doen daily for the > computers on my small network. (Keeps the folks from saying > "BRING BACK MICROSOFT!" when the shift to or from Daylight > savings time comes). -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Question about /tmp
I believe the XO= and fs-1= files are merely lock files. When I've used VNC for example, it will place an X1= or X2= file in the .X11-unix directory, depending on which X Display it is set for. Of course, I might be wrong, but that seems to be the case. The discussion about the /tmp directory that I recall centered on the fact that if the permissions for the /tmp directory got hosed then X won't start. On 21 Apr, Craig Woods wrote: > I remember a posting here some weeks ago about system files in the /tmp > directory. It sounded absurd but I think the point was being made about > essential system files being placed in the "/tmp" directory by > LinuxMandrake. Coming, as I do, from a Solaris background, I dismissed > this as possibly being a fluke on some individual box. My question is > simple: does anyone know what the ".X11-unix" and ".font-unix" folders > are about in "/tmp"? They each contain one file, "X0=" and "fs-1=" > respectively. Are these actually system files that must stay or is it > safe to delete them? I thank you for any assistance you can render in > this matter. I can not locate any documentation in this issue. > Craig -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Setting Up Sendmail
I use Sendmail on a similar system as he mentioned, and I have to force some mail to be routed via my ISP's SMTP server, for exactly that reason. So far, I've had to create "Domain Routing" rules for AOL, Compuserve, Earthlink and Adobe (whatever), as well as a local ISP in Minnesota. Oddly, I can email to Microsoft and other large companies without a problem. But, it's still a pain at times. I just use it because it's the Unix-y thing to do. :-) Well, and I'm trying to continue my education in SysAd stuff. On 20 Apr, Bug Hunter wrote: > > Yes. However, with the preponderance of UCE (Unsolicited Commercial > Email, also known as SPAM), you will have problems. The majority of > systems you try to deliver to will reject your mail because your domain > name is bogus and does not match up with your ip address. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] adduser problems
The reason Unix systems don't like numbers for names is because the name is just an alias for a number that Unix assigns internally. Take a look at the /etc/passwd file for example. Here's an example line from my box: nobody:x:99:99:Nobody:/: This means that the user "nobody" is actually UserID 99, with GroupID 99, realname is Nobody and home directory is / So, there is a good reason that Unix hates usernames that are numbers. I don't know if manually creating one will do anything funky, but I'd bet it won't work perfectly for some reason. On 20 Apr, Matt Stegman wrote: > I don't know why adduser doesn't like numbers for names. I get the same > thing on RedHat 6.0. I do know that you can do everything by hand. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] adduser problems
Traditionally, Unix and Unix-like systems (VMS, Linux, BSD, etc) don't like usernames that start with a numeral. I don't believe that has changed in Linux, but I may be wrong. On 20 Apr, duncan wrote: > I need to be able to add a user that is a number > > When I try I get the following results. > > [root@duncan www]# adduser 0413565739 > adduser: invalid user name `0413565739' > > I have only tried this on cooker and 7.0 and dont know if this is > something new or not. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] A SBawe64 question
I don't really think there IS a problem with the AWE64 drivers for Linux. I assume the sound is just a Mandrake (or RH?) thing for all soundcards, and the volume control issue is one of config files that are user-specific, as Unix is supposed to be. So, IMHO, neither is a problem, just something to watch. I'd like to kill that bootup sound, but I only reboot about once a week (gotta play games in Windows), so it's not a big deal. On 17 Apr, Leopold Palomo wrote: > Thanks a lot for the information. I'm sure that it will be useful. However, > maybe we would have to send this information to the maintainer of the sb64 > kernel driver. Maybe it's possible to change same thing and avoid all of this > problems. The question it's that there are three know person in the world > without any connection that have the same problem. > > What do you thing? > > Gary Bunker ha escrit: > >> I have an AWE64 also, so I'm familiar with your card. >> >> The explosion is the sound that the startup script throws at the >> soundcard, and I'm not sure how to kill it either. >> -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] PNG Netscape problem solved (for me anyway)
It's all magic... I went into Netscape's preferences, and erased the PNG MIME types completely. After I restarted Netscape, the PNGs that gave me fits before work. It's all a miracle, and it makes no sense unless Plugger took control of files that it is actually incapable of displaying. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] The Saga of Netscape and PNGs
I've noticed the same problems with PNG files in Netscape (using 4.72 currently) and Plugger. I've not found a way around it, yet. The files will load sometimes, and other times not. Mozilla handles all the different flavors of PNG without a problem, but it has plenty of other problems that make it a non-starter. Amaya is a less-than-full featured program that can handle PNGs ok as a web browser, and Opera is supposed to be out RSN, but we'll see when that is exactly. :-) Currently, on some web pages, the PNG files will load and display without a problem, and others they give an "unknown file type" error (apparently generated by Plugger). If I uninstall Plugger, Netscape will load some PNGs and ask me what to do with others. Very surreal problem, which we discussed a while back at LinuxNewbie: check http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001191.html for a little more detail, but (alas) no solution. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] sendmail ?
If you use Linuxconf to setup your sendmail configuration (heresy to CLI zealots, I know), it is quite simple to configure. Once it is set up you just tell your email MUA to use localhost as the SMTP server. Odds are, you'll have to tweak the config files quite a bit, so if you aren't on a dedicated connection, it's probably easier to just use your ISP for the SMTP host. YMMV On 12 Apr, patkoch wrote: > someone can telle me how use sendmail to send mail to mail address.thank ypu > for your help --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] A SBawe64 question
I have an AWE64 also, so I'm familiar with your card. The explosion is the sound that the startup script throws at the soundcard, and I'm not sure how to kill it either. The second issue: volume control. If you set your volume as you want it with the console program aumix and then save it, you can put the command aumix -L in your .bashrc script. Whether you boot in runlevel 3 or 5, it will still set your volume to your favorite settings. I know that with my big powered speakers and subwoofer, I have my audio settings set very low and just use the hardware volume control most of the time. Hope this was clear and helpful. On 11 Apr, Leopold Palomo wrote: > Really I don't know what it's. When I boot from windows, there's no > explosion, so I don't think that it's a hardware problem. > > The second bored problem is the volume. I always lost my configuration > of the volume, so every time that I boot the computer I have to regulate > the volume. The problem is that always is to high, and I'm a bit worry > for my family. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Gnome's Desktop Location
Well, I just added a symlink while not in Gnome, to the directory /home/andy/.gnome-desktop and when I started Gnome it was there, so maybe you need to restart Gnome to activate changes, if you haven't already tried that. On 11 Apr, Sevatio Octavio wrote: > I'm trying to put files and folders onto gnome's desktop. But I can't find its >location in my home folder. In KDE it's simply /home/user/Desktop. I've tried >/home/user/.gnome-desktop but that doesn't seem to be it. Would any of you happen to >know the real location of gnome's desktop? -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] CDrw and CD
> Again, I have another problem. How could I use the CD-RW and the > CD-ROM in the same machine ? Both are IDE driven. So, what's > suspicious to me. If I want to burn CDs I have to recompile my > kernel without the IDE-CD support and with the SCSI generic and > SCSI-emulation support (among others). So, after this could I use > my simple CD-ROM like a SCSI device without problems ? I've got my CD-ROM as hdc and my CD-RW is hdd. So, my lilo includes the line append="hdd=ide-scsi" and my modules.conf file includes the line 'alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi' My system works quite well with /dev/hdc aliased to /dev/cdrom and I burn CDs quite easily via cdrecord and its various front-ends. Also, if I ever do want to mount my CD-RW, I have an entry in my fstab that reads as follows: /dev/sr0/mnt/cdrw iso9660 user,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 1 1 This is needed because the drive won't let me mount it as /dev/hdd while it's being used as an ide-scsi device. That's the long answer, as far as I was able to make my system work. The short answer is: you can have ide-scsi support as a module rather than recompiling, and it will coexist just fine with a normal IDE CD drive. WHEW! YMMV -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
Oooh! It worked! Thanks heaps and heaps, Matt. Now I can just pipe a playlist to the cdrecorder. I knew Linux could do something this complex without too much heartache. Thanks for figuring it out for me, since I'm such a numbskull. :-) On 4 Apr, Matt Stegman wrote: > OK, this works for me. The problem is that, apparently, bash uses only > the _first_ character of IFS as a separator. So, I used > > IFS=$(echo -en \\n\\t) > > before the for loop. I got each filename as a single distinct item, even > the ones with spaces. Let me know if this works for you. > > -Matt Stegman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
We've already discussed that putting quotes around it won't work due to the IFS definition problem. Understand? Gary At 01:49 PM 4/2/00 -0400, you wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: > That's because the "for ... in ...; do ...; done" command interprets any > white space as separators - and, I think, without respect for quoting, or > backslash-escaping. > > So how do you get around it? I am out of ideas. I am simply resigned to > never using a filename with a space in it - which is difficult to do when > you work with Windows often. I myself keep spaces away, but anytime I get > a file from another Windows user, I try to rename it, usually converting > spaces to underscores. > Put quotes around any filenames with spaces in 'em, i.e.: "This is a Filename With A Space.txt" rather than This is a Filename With A Space.txt Understand? John --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
Matt, that was a great explanation, but it still didn't seem to do the trick. Now, using the IFS redefinition you gave, I get the entire playlist sent to mpg123 as one filename, as far as I can tell from the output I get. Here's my screen dump for you to ponder. I think I'll just end up using mmv to replace spaces with underscores, and then find/replace in the playlist. That works perfectly, but I'd hoped for something magical and elegant. :-) --screen dump follows-- for I in `cat lines.m3u`; do mpg123 "$I"; done High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Blondie-PL01-Hanging On The Telephone.mp3 Blondie-PL02-One Way Or Another.mp3 Blondie-PL03-Picture This.mp3 Blondie-PL04-Fade Away And Radiate.mp3 Blondie-PL05-Pretty Baby.mp3 Blondie-PL07-11-59.mp3 Blondie-PL08-Will Anything Happen.mp3 Blondie-PL09-Sunday Girl.mp3 Blondie-PL11-I'm Gonna Love You Too.mp3 Blondie-PL12-Just Go Away.mp3: No such file or directory --end screen dump-- On 2 Apr, Matt Stegman wrote: > OK, I think I got something that works. The $IFS seems to control bash's > definition of whitespace. If you change it to include only tabs and > newlines, > > IFS=$(echo -e \\t) > > then for loops won't separate filenames with spaces into separate > objects. Meaning, you can run > > for I in `cat playlist.m3u`; ... > > without problems. You may, however, wish to set this back after you're > done; it may (probably will) cause problems later. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
Nope, that doesn't work. Tried that this morning, and two problems occured. The playlist is no longer a playlist, since neither XMMS nor MPG123 can play songs from it. And, it still doesn't fix the parsing problem that "for I etc..." had. I end up with unrecognized filenames, or (when just echoing) a string of individual words, each on their own line, just as before. On 2 Apr, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: > > Linux isn't really space-friendly. > If you put in quotes it should be ok, though. > Simplest is to use your favorite editor to put quotes at the beginning > and end of each line. > > On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, you wrote: > | OK, that was a brainiac move on my part. Didn't realize the importance > | of the apostrophe direction in your post. HOWEVER, upon doing it > | correctly, I end up with a different problem. If the files listed in > | the M3U playlist include spaces, it chokes. Without spaces, no > | problem. So, still no elegant solution. > | > | On 1 Apr, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > | > > | > That means your useing the wrong ` make sure it's ` not ' or it will not -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
OK, that was a brainiac move on my part. Didn't realize the importance of the apostrophe direction in your post. HOWEVER, upon doing it correctly, I end up with a different problem. If the files listed in the M3U playlist include spaces, it chokes. Without spaces, no problem. So, still no elegant solution. On 1 Apr, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > That means your useing the wrong ` make sure it's ` not ' or it will not > work. also if it's not in the current dir you'll need to give the path > like > > for i in `cat /mnt/mp3/playlist.m3u` -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
That was my immediate assumption, but it gives me the error "cat playlist.m3u no such file" although I can see the file and can "cat" it normally. So, there must be some other magic... On 1 Apr, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > Ahhh!!! > > for I in `cat playlist.m3u`; do mpg123 --cdr -s "$I" | cdrecord -audio -pad -swab >-nofix - ; done && cdrecord -fix > -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
I guess I was less than clear. I want to make a CD that I can play anywhere, not an archive of MP3 files. I'm very familiar with putting data CDs together in Linux (as well as that other OS), and I've made several audio CDs in Linux now, but I either have to explicitly spell out each track on the command line (or drag/drop in Xcdroast), or I can rename all the tracks to be sequentially numbered, then hit the directory with: for I in *.mp3; do; mpg123 --cdr -s "$I" | cdrecord -audio -pad -swab -nofix -; done; cdrecord -fix So, if I can use "for I" to grab the files from a directory, how do I send mpg123 the filenames from the playlist file? I'm sure it's something obvious, but it's not addressed anywhere I have found yet, and the bash manpages are a bit obtuse at times. On 1 Apr, Alex V Flinsch wrote: > On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, you wrote: > >> I'd like to take a playlist of MP3s and use it as the input for the >> recording process. If I rename all the files in a numeric sequence, I >> can use the method shown in the CD-Writing Howto of "for I in *.mp3" >> etc. But, how can I send the file listing as written in the M3U file >> to that set of commands? > > I just did a mp3 cd containing about 13 "recular" cd's. > All I did was rip and encode, then edited the m3u files to have > /mnt/cdrom/mp3/whatever instead of /home/alex/mp3/whatever then threw the whole > directory at xcdroast and let it go. Worked great. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] MP3 playlist to CD-R
I've been burning CDs via Windows for a couple years, and with Linux for about 1 year. I've made Data and Audio CDs, but one thing I would like to be able to do I've been unable to find info regarding. I'd like to take a playlist of MP3s and use it as the input for the recording process. If I rename all the files in a numeric sequence, I can use the method shown in the CD-Writing Howto of "for I in *.mp3" etc. But, how can I send the file listing as written in the M3U file to that set of commands? I'm sure, due to the great flexibility of pipes/redirection, and shell commands, that I must be able to do this. Any help? -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Intellimouse
Here's the pointer section for my XF86Config, which works quite well with my MS Intellimouse: Section "Pointer" Protocol"IMPS/2" Device "/dev/psaux" ZAxisMapping 4 5 I usually load imwheel on boot, since so many programs don't listen for buttons 4 and 5. Works reliably for me. On 25 Mar, A.Sleep wrote: > Anyone got the Intellimouse to work correctly on 7 (v.2)? > > I was using MetroX but had to drop it. MetroX picks up the IM perfectly. > > Here is the pointer section of my XF86Config: > > Section "Pointer" > Protocol"PS/2" > Device "/dev/psaux" > Buttons 3 > EndSection -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice and Java
Netscape comes with an older, less stable JVM. The Java 1.2.2 JRE claims to be an implementation of Java version 2, although the versioning system is more obtuse than any I've seen before. :-) The configuration was just running a self-extracting archive. It did the whole configure/install setup all by itself. Check out Sun's java page for the full info. On 15 Mar, chunnuan chen wrote: > How did you configure JRE 1.2.2 for Netscape? I thought Nescape came with > its own JVM. > > Chunnuan > > Gary Bunker wrote: > >> I've downloaded and installed the JRE 1.2.2 setup from Sun, and it >> works great in Netscape. When I tried to set up StarOffice to use >> Java, it recognized that the environment existed, even pulled up the >> class library titles, but when I load a webpage that actually contains >> Java, the program says there is no Java Environment available. --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Star Office 5.1 licensing and paths
I'm not sure what version of StarOffice you're using, but I'm using the one that StarDivision put out before Sun took them over. I read the installation license and there is nothing in it that prohibits me from installing it as I have. Further, the workfiles are, by default, stored in /home/andysocial/Office51/work, and not in any publicly accessible file path. Perhaps there were some onerous changes made when Sun repackaged it? On 14 Mar, Tom Berkley wrote: > That means that you create a link from a staroffice/work subdirectory to > a subdirectory in your /home/user directory and you go there everytime > that you want to access your files, that will work simply without moving > files out of the staroffice/work directory which would be a totally > fubar way to keep your files. If you install staroffice in say > /usr/local/ and let many people have access to it, I do not know yet how > staroffice would handle the file access permissions. However that was > not the main point. Staroffice is not a GPL product and you made certain > agreements when you installed it. If you do not want to keep that > agreement that is personal to you and not this list. > > Tom > > > > Gary Bunker wrote: >> >> If you save your data files under your /home/user directory, with the >> appropriate permissions (the defaults work well), how could anyone have >> access to your files? >> -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] StarOffice and Java
I've downloaded and installed the JRE 1.2.2 setup from Sun, and it works great in Netscape. When I tried to set up StarOffice to use Java, it recognized that the environment existed, even pulled up the class library titles, but when I load a webpage that actually contains Java, the program says there is no Java Environment available. Anyone else seen this, and know of a fix? Not a terribly important thing, but still. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Star Office 5.1 weirdness -- FIXED
If you save your data files under your /home/user directory, with the appropriate permissions (the defaults work well), how could anyone have access to your files? On 14 Mar, Tom Berkley wrote: > better read your staroffice license. unless you have a multiuser > license, you have to install it for each user separately. If not then > everyone has access to everyone elses staroffice files. bummer I know, > but it is free. > -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Installing Realplayer7 -- please help
That's odd, from the original Linux-specific web page, it links to the same program, but doesn't give the option of an RPM. How peculiar. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity, Seve. On 14 Mar, Sevatio Octavio wrote: > You should find the RPM here. > > >http://proforma.real.com/real/player/player.html?src=000308realhome_2,000303choice_2&dc=315314313 > > Seve > >> >>BTW, where is everyone getting these RPM's for RP7? The Real page I >>went to only had the rp7install.bin archive, with no reference to RPMs. >>Doesn't really matter, since the bin installed fine... -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Installing Realplayer7 -- please help
On 13 Mar, Benjamin Sher wrote: > [sher@adsl-77-232-213 sher]$ rpm -e > RealPlayer7 failed to open //var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm > error: cannot open //var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm > [sher@adsl-77-232-213 sher]$ Looks like you should have been root? Oh,well, water under the bridge now. > Now when I try to install the RealPlayer7 rpm, here is what I get: > > [root@adsl-77-232-213 sher]# rpm -Uvh RealPlayer-7_0-1_i386.rpm > package RealPlayer-7.0-1 is already installed Since the RPM database is now confused, you have to force it to install. Just type rpm -ivh --force RealPlayer-7_0-1_i386.rpm (or Uvh whatever you prefer) and it should install it for you. BTW, where is everyone getting these RPM's for RP7? The Real page I went to only had the rp7install.bin archive, with no reference to RPMs. Doesn't really matter, since the bin installed fine... -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] File Permissions
You can leave them on at boot, just change the umask to 0. The umask permissions are exactly inverted from the normal chmod permissions, which throws most people off. For instance, if you want to allow no writes or reads to the drive (don't know why you would), the umask would be 777. If you want anyone to have access to read and write and execute, the umask is 000. Backwards, but it works. No need to get cranky at the default fstab, although putting things under /mnt/DOS_hda1 was odd. I prefer a bit SHORTER mount point myself. :-) On 15 Mar, Ron Stodden wrote: > Andrew, > > Write permission for vfat file systems at mount time is only provided > to the user that does the mount. So that is what you should do - > have the user who wants to write be the one that does the mount and > eventual umount. > > But first as root alter /etc/fstab to make all the vfat mounts noauto > (as the installer should have done), then reboot. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] RealPlayer7 Beta with plugins is here!!!
On 13 Mar, Benjamin Sher wrote: > The new RealPlayer7 Beta is here with all the plugins is here. > > Warning: There are two versions, an rpm for RedHat ALONE (it WON'T work > on Mandrake 7) and one for the rest of us. It looks great. They must have updated the site between the time you went and when I went there yesterday. There is only one version posted now, and it's not an RPM at all: it's a self-installing archive. It worked fine in Mandrake 7.0 for me. And, to get it to work with URLs clicked in Netscape, RTFM. Or, just add %s to the end of the command line. :-) -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] silly question
OK, I'm an idiot. I just spent about 30 minutes trying to decipher manpages and other documentation that explained the difference in Unix between System and Hardware clocks. I get it now. Of course, now I have to change my cron job to update the Hardware Clock instead of the System clock, then update the system clock from the hardware clock. *sigh* At least when I have to reboot into Windows, the time will be right. :-) > On 12 Mar, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: > I beg to differ... Quoting from the man page: > -s Set the local system time from the time retrieved from the remote >machine. > This, quite naturally, is only effective for root. > > Unless I'm totally mistaken (I could be for all I know ) this only > sets the SOFTWARE clock. Which is why when you have your off-set > wrong, and have your hardware (bios) clock set CORRECTLY, you can > have a wrong time displayed... :-) > John -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] silly question
Maybe I'm confused about the concept of a "software" clock. Since I'm coming from a background of VMS and Windows, the machines I've used only have one clock. I understand using offsets, but let's assume I have my hardware clock set to local time, rather than GMT, set my TZ variable correctly, etc. Then, in that case (which oddly enough is mine), does rdate -s set the hardware clock, or is there some magic clock saved somewhere else that it is updating? I assume it is updating the actual BIOS clock, since I have no offset set personally. WHEW! OTOH, I'll now have to look at the hwclock command and see if I need to change my nightly clock-reset cron job. :-) On 12 Mar, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: > I beg to differ... Quoting from the man page: > -s Set the local system time from the time retrieved from the remote >machine. > This, quite naturally, is only effective for root. > > Unless I'm totally mistaken (I could be for all I know ) this only > sets the SOFTWARE clock. Which is why when you have your off-set > wrong, and have your hardware (bios) clock set CORRECTLY, you can > have a wrong time displayed... :-) > John -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] silly question
On 12 Mar, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: >> Well, if you're root, just use rdate -s time.nist.gov (or whatever >> server you use). >> > Yes. But it doesn't update the HARDWARE clock. Axalon was good enough > to tell me -- hwclock is the command I was looking for. Doh! :-) > John Um, it updates the hardware clock on my system. Maybe there is an option somewhere that I set on install, but I don't recall doing anything odd. How could you use the rdate -s option without it updating the hardware clock? That's what the -s switch does. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] silly question
Well, if you're root, just use rdate -s time.nist.gov (or whatever server you use). On 11 Mar, John Aldrich wrote: > I used to know this command, but I haven't used it in awhile and it > now escapes me... > After I use RDATE to set the software clock, what's the command to > write the changes to the hardware clock? I know it's > --systohc, but I"ve forgotten what it is can someone refresh my > memory? > Thanks... > John -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Re: Multiple Email Accounts
At 04:45 PM 3/10/00 -0700, you wrote: Never looked at postilion... how is it in comparison to pine (which is what i use)? Well, Postilion tries to be like NeXT's old mail program, so it's got gigantic icons and layers of folders to store messages (which works great with procmail). One thing I've gotten very used to over the years of working with GUIs is the ability to have lots of windows open with folders or messages, which allows me to keep track of a lot of mail, unlike with CLI-based mailers that make me remember what I'm doing. :-) Overall, Postilion is very feature-complete (it's on v0.9.3), no major bugs, and can view inline images and crappy HTML (based on tkHTML's widget). I'm really not looking to change, and I went through a bunch of email programs when I converted to Linux, so I guess that says something. :-) --- Nil carborundum illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] Re: Multiple Email Accounts
How about any MUA if used with fetchmail? I use Postilion personally, but KMail or anything else that can read local mail boxes works well. Also, KMail can access multiple accounts internally, so you don't even need to use fetchmail if it scares you. > Vern wrote: > > I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail > accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3. > Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not > POP. -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] GKrellm
Disregard last. Author of GKrellM has created a new RPM that removes the dependency problems I noticed. *sigh* -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] wheel mouse
Put it in the Autostart folder if you're using KDE (which it sounds like you are). On 9 Mar, Mage Grimau wrote: > Following directions I got from mandrakeuser.org, I am > able to get my wheel mouse to work correctly under X > excEPT i have to open konsole and type "imwheel -k" at > the start of every session. The instructions I got > said adding that line to .xinitrc would do it > automatically, but it doesn't. > So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to make it > run automagically? -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] GKrellm
Has anyone gotten GKrellm to work under Mandrake 7.0? If I attempt to use the tarball of gkrellm, 'make' stops with this output: gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c main.c -o main.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c apm.c -o apm.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c clock.c -o clock.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c cpu.c -o cpu.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c disk.c -o disk.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c fs.c -o fs.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c hostname.c -o hostname.o o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c inet.c -o inet.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c mail.c -o mail.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c meminfo.c -o meminfo.o gcc -Wall -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c net.c -o net.o net.c:227: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args net.c:267: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args net.c:445: macro `glibtop_get_ppp' used with only 2 args make: *** [net.o] Error 1 These macros are apparently internal to the gkrellm install, since I can't find them anywhere on my system (locate or manual plundering). --- Then, if I attempt to install the RPM (trying -U or -i), I get this output upon its failure: error: failed dependencies: libgtop.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1 libgtop_common.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1 libgtop_sysdeps.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1 -- Obvious answer: get the files it says it needs for the RPM install, right? I searched RPMFind.net and I got the package libgtop1.0.7, since it was the newest one that had the .so.1 files. That won't work, since it conflicts with the newer libgtop1.1.5 that Mandrake has installed. So, what do I do? Can I assume that the files libgtop.so and libgtop_common.so and libgtop_sysdeps.so can be symlinked as so.1 and it will work? Or, will this cause other problems for me? Any advice on this would be appreciated. Thanks. --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] NS 4.72 USA version problems
On 8 Mar, Tony wrote: > used to be "Nil carboundum in excretia illigitimi" in my schooldays (60 > years ago!!) Well, that's a bit more colorful. :-) > - Original Message - > From: "Joseph S. Gardner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [expert] NS 4.72 USA version problems > > >> Gary Bunker wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Nil Carborundum Illegitimi >> >> Now there's a line I haven't heard in a while >> >> -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] NS 4.72 USA version problems
OK, here's a kludge, but it worked. As you may remember, I was having the dreaded multiple-window closure problem in Netscape, and using the latest 'clean' tarball from Netscape to install from started it. Since I was having fewer problems with the Mandrake 7.0 RPMs of 4.70 than with the tarball of 4.72, I removed all vestiges of the tarball install, and reinstalled the RPMs of 4.72 that I'd downloaded a while back. The problem, in my view, is that there are no MDK RPM files for the 4.72 US crypto version and Fortify no longer recognizes 4.72 as an upgradeable system. So, after putting the international RPMs on my system, I installed the 4.72 US tarball into the default /opt/netscape path, and copied the files over the ones in /usr/lib/netscape. I had to rename netscape to netscape-communicator and then it was done. Now, I have 4.72 with US crypto, and the browser hasn't closed any extra windows yet, and I've been trying to make it. I still don't feel like turning Java on, but at least I've got a relatively stable browser again. Thanks for everyone's suggestions, and hope this helps someone else who wants everything! :-) -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Netscape closing too many windows
I have completely wiped all the Mandrake-specific stuff for Netscape from the system, including the shell script that once resided at /usr/bin/netscape, because I could not upgrade to the 128-bit version of Netscape and use that script without reprogramming and I'm no programmer. I have no scripts of any kind, and the NS files are all installed in the default NS-Install directory of /opt/netscape. To make my life easier and avoid adding to my already lengthy PATH, I made a link to Netscape at /usr/bin/netscape. Now, the program works just as before, but it will often kill extra windows. I have tried to use the File-Close command, rather than the Close widget, and it doesn't matter. About half of the time, when I close one window, all of them close. When does Opera come out? :-) On 4 Mar, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: > > Make sure that you invoke it as "netscape" and not as > "netcape-communicator" or "netscape-navigator" or via a shell script > from anybody other than Mandrake that invokes it as one of those two > things. > > > On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, you wrote: > | I've nuked the Netscape RPMs that came with Mandrake 7 in order to use > | the US-crypto version (can't find an RPM for it anywhere). > | > | Now, it closes all windows when it should close one. This is not an > | "all the time" thing, but often enough to make me want to kill > | Netscape's programmers. > | > | I've tried an earlier suggestion someone had, of uninstalling and > | reinstalling the compatibility libraries, and that made absolutely no > | difference. > | > | Anyone have a 100% fix for this, or should I go back to 4.70 and use > | Fortify to get my 128-bit encryption up? -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] Netscape closing too many windows
I've nuked the Netscape RPMs that came with Mandrake 7 in order to use the US-crypto version (can't find an RPM for it anywhere). Now, it closes all windows when it should close one. This is not an "all the time" thing, but often enough to make me want to kill Netscape's programmers. I've tried an earlier suggestion someone had, of uninstalling and reinstalling the compatibility libraries, and that made absolutely no difference. Anyone have a 100% fix for this, or should I go back to 4.70 and use Fortify to get my 128-bit encryption up? -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
RE: [expert] Changing case or extensions
I found it on rpmfind.net which is where I find almost everything not WindowMaker-related. :-) On 3 Mar, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: > > I don't have mmv on my system or anywhere on the Mandrake 7.0 install > disk. > > Do you know where I can it? Sounds cool . . . > --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
Re: [expert] Changing case or extensions
No, that most definitely does NOT work. That was what I tried first, then a horrible attempt at a while loop. I like mmv but now I'm trying to remember how I did it under AIX/Xenix years ago... On 3 Mar, Robert Binkley wrote: > > mv *.BMP *.bmp -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] Changing case or extensions
I used to know how to do this, but now my brain is full. How can I change the case, or extension of a lot of files at once. For example, I have a directory of BMPs that a friend sent from his digital camera (yeah, I know, bad format, but it's not me). I want to make them all bmp instead of BMP extensions. I can't remember how, although I recall it was something simple. Thanks -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
[expert] Netscape and java
I know, I know, Java on Netscape for Unix bites. BUT, say I wanted to test it out. I've uninstalled the 4.70 NS files (both common and communicator) from my system and installed the tarball from Netscape of the 128-bit version. Call me silly, but if I'm entitle to good crypto, I'm gonna use it. All is normal, or as normal as NS gets. Then, I turn on Java and go to a site with an applet. I get the error that java40.jar is not in the CLASSPATH. Where is the CLASSPATH located and how can I change it to point to my directory of java classes? I would have thought the supposedly automatic ns-install shell script would do that for me, but apparently not. Any help? Am I missing something obvious here? -- --- Nil Carborundum Illegitimi http://andysocial.com
