Re: [expert] No Floppy?
I tried the first step and for whatever reason, it would mount the floppy, but gave IO errors whenever I tried to access the mount point. So, I did the second item. The syntax I had to use was: mknod 0 b 2 0 and I created the 0 device in the directory you specified and linked it. I then retried mounting and lo and behold, the magic happened! Thank You James! Now I need to add the floppy to the removable device menu at the desktop. Again, Thank You! On Thursday 21 November 2002 12:15 am, you wrote: This should allow you to create at least one floppy device ... First I would enter / make sure a line like none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 (it's actully all one line but word wrap in the e-mail client makes it more) then put a floppy in and try and mount it manually see if devfs created it... IF not. It can be created manually. As root cd to /dev mkdir floppy cd floppy mknod b 0 floppy 2 0(note those are both zero's not oh's) cd ../ ln -s floppy/0 fd0 This will create a config situation identical to all of the mdk 9.0 boxes I've checked. For whatever reason MAKEDEV is still there but no longer works in it's place we have mknod that requires more work to configure...*sigh* James On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 19:05, Tom wrote: What have I overlooked? As root, I tried: cd /dev; /sbin/MAKEDEV fd and it comes up with a don't have permission error Then I tried: modprobe floppy and still no floppy devices. I am using the 7 CD box set of Mandrake 9.0 I am trying to configure the Internet services before connecting the machine to Internet and was attempting to use the floppy for transferring configuration files from another Mandrake machine (8.1) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No Floppy?
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 07:05, Tom wrote: I tried the first step and for whatever reason, it would mount the floppy, but gave IO errors whenever I tried to access the mount point. So, I did the second item. The syntax I had to use was: mknod 0 b 2 0 Been a while since I'd done it you're right. and I created the 0 device in the directory you specified and linked it. I then retried mounting and lo and behold, the magic happened! Thank You James! Hot dang got it right *grin* Now I need to add the floppy to the removable device menu at the desktop. Again, Thank You! On Thursday 21 November 2002 12:15 am, you wrote: This should allow you to create at least one floppy device ... First I would enter / make sure a line like none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 (it's actully all one line but word wrap in the e-mail client makes it more) then put a floppy in and try and mount it manually see if devfs created it... IF not. It can be created manually. As root cd to /dev mkdir floppy cd floppy mknod b 0 floppy 2 0(note those are both zero's not oh's) cd ../ ln -s floppy/0 fd0 This will create a config situation identical to all of the mdk 9.0 boxes I've checked. For whatever reason MAKEDEV is still there but no longer works in it's place we have mknod that requires more work to configure...*sigh* James On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 19:05, Tom wrote: What have I overlooked? As root, I tried: cd /dev; /sbin/MAKEDEV fd and it comes up with a don't have permission error Then I tried: modprobe floppy and still no floppy devices. I am using the 7 CD box set of Mandrake 9.0 I am trying to configure the Internet services before connecting the machine to Internet and was attempting to use the floppy for transferring configuration files from another Mandrake machine (8.1) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] No Floppy?
What have I overlooked? As root, I tried: cd /dev; /sbin/MAKEDEV fd and it comes up with a don't have permission error Then I tried: modprobe floppy and still no floppy devices. I am using the 7 CD box set of Mandrake 9.0 I am trying to configure the Internet services before connecting the machine to Internet and was attempting to use the floppy for transferring configuration files from another Mandrake machine (8.1) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No Floppy?
This should allow you to create at least one floppy device ... First I would enter / make sure a line like none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 (it's actully all one line but word wrap in the e-mail client makes it more) then put a floppy in and try and mount it manually see if devfs created it... IF not. It can be created manually. As root cd to /dev mkdir floppy cd floppy mknod b 0 floppy 2 0(note those are both zero's not oh's) cd ../ ln -s floppy/0 fd0 This will create a config situation identical to all of the mdk 9.0 boxes I've checked. For whatever reason MAKEDEV is still there but no longer works in it's place we have mknod that requires more work to configure...*sigh* James On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 19:05, Tom wrote: What have I overlooked? As root, I tried: cd /dev; /sbin/MAKEDEV fd and it comes up with a don't have permission error Then I tried: modprobe floppy and still no floppy devices. I am using the 7 CD box set of Mandrake 9.0 I am trying to configure the Internet services before connecting the machine to Internet and was attempting to use the floppy for transferring configuration files from another Mandrake machine (8.1) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Boot-Floppy image on a CDROM disc?
Hi Experts, I have a cooker machine, a laptop, that I want to make a fresh install on, but there is a problem, it has no floppy drive. Rather than make a set of CDs, I want to put the hd.image on a cdr, and boot that. The laptop is running a stale cooker distribution, and has a current mirror, but has nearly 500 stale packages installed. I am not a cdrecord ninja, and when I tried to make the bootable disc with xcdroast, I failed even though I told it to make a bootable cd with the hd.img boot disk image. Has anyone a clue how, or even if, this can be done? THanks! -Chuck -- +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-+-+ \ Sitting in his UNIX LAN \ Charles A. Shirley \ \ Making all his UNIX plans \ cashirley (at) comcast (dot) net \ +--# For nobody --+-+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot-Floppy image on a CDROM disc?
On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 10:48, Chuck Shirley wrote: Hi Experts, poor guy, asks for experts and gets me responding... I have a cooker machine, a laptop, that I want to make a fresh install on, but there is a problem, it has no floppy drive. Rather than make a set of CDs, I want to put the hd.image on a cdr, and boot that. The laptop is running a stale cooker distribution, and has a current mirror, but has nearly 500 stale packages installed. I am not a cdrecord ninja, and when I tried to make the bootable disc with xcdroast, I failed even though I told it to make a bootable cd with the hd.img boot disk image. It maybe sort of a pain, but you could certainly pull the hard drive from that laptop and do an install from a desktop machine (you'll need an adapter, of course). also, a few of the cd places out there (cheapbytes.com et.al.) offer cooker disks, and I'm sure they'd be happy to burn you off a few disks of the absolute latest. or humoryou could send me $20 to the address on my website and I'll burn the disks for you/humor unless you'd acually send me $20. and that's USD, nun-a-that canadian stuff. -- jason gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot-Floppy image on a CDROM disc?
On Sunday 04 August 2002 11:47, Jason Guidry wrote: On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 10:48, Chuck Shirley wrote: I have a cooker machine, a laptop... it has no floppy drive. Rather than make a set of CDs, I want to put the hd.image on a cdr, and boot that It maybe sort of a pain, but you could certainly pull the hard drive from that laptop and do an install from a desktop machine (you'll need an adapter, of course). also, a few of the cd places out there (cheapbytes.com et.al.) offer cooker disks, and I'm sure they'd be happy to burn you off a few disks of the absolute latest. or humoryou could send me $20 to the address on my website and I'll burn the disks for you/humor unless you'd acually send me $20. and that's USD, nun-a-that canadian stuff. Thanks for the offer, but I was just trying to save the hassle of burning a new set of CDs myself. (Especially with all the trouble mkcds has been having lately.) ;) So far, I have only tried using XCDRoast to make boot-floppy CDs, but have failed. I suppose I should look into doing it via command line, as I'm sure there are better options. As it stands, I have tried to burn floppy image directly to the CDR (by telling XCDRoast to use the hd.img as the disc image) but the bios wouldn't boot it. And I tried mastering a CD on-the-fly using hd.img as the boot image (I was sure this would work, but the bios still said it wasn't a bootable image... :( Back to the drawing board! -Chuck -- +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-+-+ \ Sitting in his UNIX LAN \ Charles A. Shirley \ \ Making all his UNIX plans \ cashirley (at) comcast (dot) net \ +--# For nobody --+-+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot-Floppy image on a CDROM disc?
On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:48:14 -0400 Chuck Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Experts, I have a cooker machine, a laptop, that I want to make a fresh install on, but there is a problem, it has no floppy drive. Rather than make a set of CDs, I want to put the hd.image on a cdr, and boot that. The laptop is running a stale cooker distribution, and has a current mirror, but has nearly 500 stale packages installed. I am not a cdrecord ninja, and when I tried to make the bootable disc with xcdroast, I failed even though I told it to make a bootable cd with the hd.img boot disk image. Has anyone a clue how, or even if, this can be done? THanks! -Chuck Chuck, Just tried this out and it worked. mkdir and copy hd.img to that dir. The cd to that directory. At the prompt type mkisofs -r -b hd.img -c boot.cat -o hdboot.iso . the -b means to make this the boot image the -c means create the boot catalog for this disk the -o means create an iso with this name the trailing dot is needed because it means read from right here. then at the prompt as root cdrecord -v speed=16 dev=0,0,0 -data hdboot.iso in about 2 seconds you have a cd that boots looking for the rpms etc on a hdd partition. Note that speed and dev may change for your box in the above command. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot-Floppy image on a CDROM disc?
Chuck Shirley wrote: Hi Experts, I have a cooker machine, a laptop, that I want to make a fresh install on, but there is a problem, it has no floppy drive. Rather than make a set of CDs, I want to put the hd.image on a cdr, and boot that. The laptop is running a stale cooker distribution, and has a current mirror, but has nearly 500 stale packages installed. I am not a cdrecord ninja, and when I tried to make the bootable disc with xcdroast, I failed even though I told it to make a bootable cd with the hd.img boot disk image. Has anyone a clue how, or even if, this can be done? the Iso has everything you should need on it. I burn Iso's from the command line and they always work. I use this command from the directory where the iso is : cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=1,0,0 [and the iso's name here without brackets] whatever.iso if you don't know how to find what dev=numbers here type in a terminal cdrecord -scanbus the 3 numbers beside the reference to the burner are the ones to put there. speed= whatever you burner handles without errors or it's lowest would be safe. and example of complete line is : cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=1,0,0 MandrakeLinux-9.0beta1-CD1.i586.iso hope this helps some. -- Mike McNeese currently running Mandrake versions 8.0 and 8.2 Linux registered user # 248955 If obstacles are all we see, then we've lost sight of our goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot-Floppy image on a CDROM disc?
On Monday 05 August 2002 14:33, James Sparenberg wrote: Just tried this out and it worked. mkdir and copy hd.img to that dir. The cd to that directory. At the prompt type mkisofs -r -b hd.img -c boot.cat -o hdboot.iso . the -b means to make this the boot image the -c means create the boot catalog for this disk the -o means create an iso with this name the trailing dot is needed because it means read from right here. then at the prompt as root cdrecord -v speed=16 dev=0,0,0 -data hdboot.iso in about 2 seconds you have a cd that boots looking for the rpms etc on a hdd partition. Note that speed and dev may change for your box in the above command. James Sweet! Thanks for testing that out, James! I appreciate it. Since I just re-syncronized my mirror on the laptop, I think I'll give it a spin. I need to get with the program. I've been around computers so long that I still consider cdr/w-stuff to be new-fangled, so I never get around to learning how to do it the UNIX way. Now, give me a 9-track, 1/2 reel-to-reel tape drive over IEEE-488, and it's a whole other ball game! ;) Thanks again! Best regards! -Chuck -- +-% He's a real UNIX Man $-+-+ \ Sitting in his UNIX LAN \ Charles A. Shirley \ \ Making all his UNIX plans \ cashirley (at) comcast (dot) net \ +--# For nobody --+-+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Memtest floppy, Was: Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
memtest-x86.bin is on your CD1 in the images directory and can be sent to floppy with a dd and the floppy can be booted and run to test memory. An initial 512 Mb may not show problems for quite a while, even running linux. I had the unpleasant experience of negotiating a warranty return on a 512M DDR recently, and my system would run for days then suddenly reset without any indication in the logs of any temperature conditions Civileme Civileme, Can you outline the operation to make a memtest bootable floppy for us? Thanks, -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Memtest floppy, Was: Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
Ken Thompson wrote: memtest-x86.bin is on your CD1 in the images directory and can be sent to floppy with a dd and the floppy can be booted and run to test memory. An initial 512 Mb may not show problems for quite a while, even running linux. I had the unpleasant experience of negotiating a warranty return on a 512M DDR recently, and my system would run for days then suddenly reset without any indication in the logs of any temperature conditions Civileme Civileme, Can you outline the operation to make a memtest bootable floppy for us? Thanks, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com 1. Put in CD1 2. Open a terminal window and su to root or su to root on your console as the case may be 3. Supermount may be working or not. If not, mount /mnt/cdrom 4. Insert a floppy 4. a. Optionally format the floppy with fdformat /dev/fd0u1440 (It's a necessity if you don't already have the floppy formatted) 4.b. dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/memtest-x86.bin of=/dev/fd0 When the prompt comes back, remove the CD reboot and you will be running memtest. That is, of course assuming your floppy is your first boot device or at least before the HDD or SCSI in your chain of boot devices in your BIOS. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Memtest floppy, Was: Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
Ken Thompson wrote: memtest-x86.bin is on your CD1 in the images directory and can be sent to floppy with a dd and the floppy can be booted and run to test memory. An initial 512 Mb may not show problems for quite a while, even running linux. I had the unpleasant experience of negotiating a warranty return on a 512M DDR recently, and my system would run for days then suddenly reset without any indication in the logs of any temperature conditions Civileme Civileme, Can you outline the operation to make a memtest bootable floppy for us? Thanks, dd if=/boot/memtest-2.7.bin of=/dev/fd0. But you don't need to do that, just installing memtest will make an entry in lilo.conf and on a subsequent boot-up you'll have 'memtest' as an entry in the lilo's boot menu. Guy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Memtest floppy, Was: Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
* Ken Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020329 12:14]: Can you outline the operation to make a memtest bootable floppy for us? Thanks, Mount the first CD. Change to the images directory. Put in a floppy. We're assuming your floppy is /dev/fd0: dd if=memtest-x86.bin of=/dev/fd0 It's not a very large file, so it won't take very long. Shutdown and boot from the floppy. The memory test will continue until you stop it. Works fine here. -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com linux.bz Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, SQL, Perl, HTML Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Memtest floppy, Was: Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
On Friday 29 March 2002 11:40 am, you wrote: Ken Thompson wrote: memtest-x86.bin is on your CD1 in the images directory and can be sent to floppy with a dd and the floppy can be booted and run to test memory. An initial 512 Mb may not show problems for quite a while, even running linux. I had the unpleasant experience of negotiating a warranty return on a 512M DDR recently, and my system would run for days then suddenly reset without any indication in the logs of any temperature conditions Civileme Civileme, Can you outline the operation to make a memtest bootable floppy for us? Thanks, 1. Put in CD1 2. Open a terminal window and su to root or su to root on your console as the case may be 3. Supermount may be working or not. If not, mount /mnt/cdrom 4. Insert a floppy 4. a. Optionally format the floppy with fdformat /dev/fd0u1440 (It's a necessity if you don't already have the floppy formatted) 4.b. dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/memtest-x86.bin of=/dev/fd0 When the prompt comes back, remove the CD reboot and you will be running memtest. That is, of course assuming your floppy is your first boot device or at least before the HDD or SCSI in your chain of boot devices in your BIOS. Civileme Thanks, I wasn't sure if the dd of the .bin would make it bootable.. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Memtest floppy, Was: Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem
On Friday 29 March 2002 12:40 pm, civileme wrote: 4.b. dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/memtest-x86.bin of=/dev/fd0 When the prompt comes back, remove the CD reboot and you will be running memtest. That is, of course assuming your floppy is your first boot device or at least before the HDD or SCSI in your chain of boot devices in your BIOS. I use to set the bios to boot from floppy, till I found out I can just choose 'floppy' from the lilo menu and boot memtest86. That lets me leave the cdrom as 1st boot device. The rpm (memtest86-2.9-1mdk and previous versions) installs memtest to /boot, creates a lilo entry, and runs 'lilo' to make it a boot option. The advantage to booting memtest from a floppy rather than HDD, is that your filesystem isn't at risk if the computer is havin hardware problems (or if you try'n overclock it too far ;) Memtest86 is a good first test, but cpuburn needs to be run before the system is proven. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario
Supermount is broken on 8.1, you have to 'mount' the floppy each time. HTH Dave Original Message: - From: wim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:05:58 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario Hello, I have a brand new Compaq presario and I installed MD 8.1 on it. After a (successfull) installation, I discovered that my floppy drive is not detected! Weird!! I could boot from it and in XP, it works fine. Has anyone of you had the same problem? What can I do about it? -- Kind regards, Wim De Hul Belgacom Belbone Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +32 479 952004 Ripe : WDH25-RIPE Registered Linux User: #260015 mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario
It works on my linux box @ work, which is also a Compaq... Greetz, Wim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supermount is broken on 8.1, you have to 'mount' the floppy each time. HTH Dave Original Message: - From: wim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:05:58 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] No floppy on Compaq presario Hello, I have a brand new Compaq presario and I installed MD 8.1 on it. After a (successfull) installation, I discovered that my floppy drive is not detected! Weird!! I could boot from it and in XP, it works fine. Has anyone of you had the same problem? What can I do about it? -- Kind regards, Wim De Hul Belgacom Belbone Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +32 479 952004 Ripe : WDH25-RIPE Registered Linux User: #260015 mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Kind regards, Wim De Hul Belgacom Belbone Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +32 479 952004 Ripe : WDH25-RIPE Registered Linux User: #260015 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] No floppy on Compaq presario
Hello, I have a brand new Compaq presario and I installed MD 8.1 on it. After a (successfull) installation, I discovered that my floppy drive is not detected! Weird!! I could boot from it and in XP, it works fine. Has anyone of you had the same problem? What can I do about it? -- Kind regards, Wim De Hul Belgacom Belbone Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : +32 479 952004 Ripe : WDH25-RIPE Registered Linux User: #260015 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] gui floppy image program
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Kevin Fonner wrote: win image is a floppy iamge utility. You can read and write floppy images to and from floppys. It also allows you to open a floppy image and work with the files right on the image. dd does a great job of reading and writing however It doesn't loow me to quickly flip through the images to see what's on them. Have you looked at gSwissKnife? I did a search on freshmeat and found it. URL is here: http://sites.inka.de/~W1752/edecosi/gsk.en.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] gui floppy image program
Has anybody ever got around to writing a gui program to managing floppy images sort of like winimage. Thanks,Kevin Fonner[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] gui floppy image program
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Kevin Fonner wrote: Has anybody ever got around to writing a gui program to managing floppy images sort of like winimage. What does winimage do? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] gui floppy image program
win image is a floppy iamge utility. You can read and write floppy images to and from floppys. It also allows you to open a floppy image and work with the files right on the image. dd does a great job of reading and writing however It doesn't loow me to quickly flip through the images to see what's on them. Thanks, Kevin Fonner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [expert] gui floppy image program On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Kevin Fonner wrote: Has anybody ever got around to writing a gui program to managing floppy images sort of like winimage. What does winimage do? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] gui floppy image program
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:36:32 -0500 Kevin Fonner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: win image is a floppy iamge utility. You can read and write floppy images to and from floppys. It also allows you to open a floppy image and work with the files right on the image. dd does a great job of reading and writing however It doesn't loow me to quickly flip through the images to see what's on them. dd if=/dev/fd0 of=fdimage mount -o loop fdimage /mnt/some_dir ls /mnt/some_dir Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Single floppy with frame buffer, nano-X, and rwin RDP client to boot diskless computer
Has anyone ever made one of these, or know how to: 1) pass vga=791 to kernel without using lilo? I don't think I will be able to fit a slim kernel, and the binaries along with a root fs one floppy if I have to add lilo! I am very new to Linux, and know nothing, but have this daunting task, and its proving a big learning curve. Thanks! jlc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Single floppy with frame buffer, nano-X, and rwin RDPclient to boot diskless computer
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Joe L. Casale wrote: Has anyone ever made one of these, or know how to: 1) pass vga=791 to kernel without using lilo? I don't think I will be able to fit a slim kernel, and the binaries along with a root fs one floppy if I have to add lilo! I am very new to Linux, and know nothing, but have this daunting task, and its proving a big learning curve. rdev should be able to do it. You probably already know this, but there's an application called busybox that you can use to minimize the size of applications. It's an all-in-one binary that provides shell, network, fs utils, etc.. If you build it against a minimal glibc it can make a small image. I've not gotten it to floppy sized yet, but it works well of disk-on-chip devices. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Single floppy with frame buffer, nano-X, and rwin RDP client to boot diskless computer
Firstly, I want to thank you! Secondly, you are too generous! My Linux experience started a week ago, he he. The reason I'm in this list is obvious though, it's a tough Q! So what is rdev? You'll have to humor me, I don't know squat! Thanks!! jlc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Single floppy with frame buffer, nano-X, and rwin RDP client to boot diskless computer On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Joe L. Casale wrote: Has anyone ever made one of these, or know how to: 1) pass vga=791 to kernel without using lilo? I don't think I will be able to fit a slim kernel, and the binaries along with a root fs one floppy if I have to add lilo! I am very new to Linux, and know nothing, but have this daunting task, and its proving a big learning curve. rdev should be able to do it. You probably already know this, but there's an application called busybox that you can use to minimize the size of applications. It's an all-in-one binary that provides shell, network, fs utils, etc.. If you build it against a minimal glibc it can make a small image. I've not gotten it to floppy sized yet, but it works well of disk-on-chip devices. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] cdrw floppy in dell 8100 laptop?
Hi; Here's the situation: I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 with a DVD, CDRW, and a floppy drive. The floppy and CDRW are switchable and only one can be in the system at a time. When I installed Mandrake 8.1, I installed it with the CDRW in. Now, in order to take advantage of the vmware software package that I installed, I need to boot a virtual machine off the floppy in order to install a slave OS on it. However, Linux doesn't see the floppy when I switched it back and rebooted. There is a /dev/fd0 link pointing to /dev/floppy/0. When I access it either via msdir, dd, whatever, I get a Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device. I have verified that the laptop itself sees the hardware by booting off the floppy. I'm suspecting a module didn't get built when I installed the OS with the CDRW. My next step, pending a resolution from this list, is to recompile the kernel and see if that fixes it. If that doesn't work, the only thing I can think of after that is to reinstall the OS. That sure seems like the Microshaft approach to troubleshooting though. Anybody have any ideas on how I might gain access to my laptop's floppy? Thanks for your time and help. Doug - Douglas K. O'Leary Senior UNIX System Administrator - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot Floppy Won't
Thorsten Gecks wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Felix Miata wrote: Last three times I installed 8.1, the boot floppy comes up with a 0 byte initrd.img file, and as a result the floppy won't boot, whether directly from floppy or from Grub menu on /dev/hda1, failing to find a usable initrd.img. How does one fix this? Why does it happen? Did you try building a boot floppy by hand ? (Perhaps examine the Bootdisk-HOWTO) With all distros I have used other than Mdk 8.1, the installer was smart enough to create a boot floppy that would boot the PC that created it. -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot Floppy Created During 8.1 Installation
Andrew George wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:46, Felix Miata wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding it's purpose. When chosing Grub as boot loader during install, the last menu choice is to boot from floppy. I set the BIOS boot order to C,A,SCSI on a SCSI-less system. When the boot floppy is inserted into the drive and boot brings up the Grub menu from HD and I choose to boot from floppy, an error message comes up: Could not find ramdisk image: initrd.img. If I change the BIOS to boot order A,C,SCSI, I still get the same error message. Doesn't 8.1 know how to make a usable boot floppy? What am I doing wrong that I can't initiate boot from the floppy? Can you boot at all? Of course, just not from the supposed rescue floppy that I was trying to test before needing it to rescue something messed up by windoze. What filesystem are you using for your /boot or / partitions (some just don't work) /boot /dev/hda1 ext2 / /dev/hda5 ext2 -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Boot Floppy Created During 8.1 Installation
Maybe I'm misunderstanding it's purpose. When chosing Grub as boot loader during install, the last menu choice is to boot from floppy. I set the BIOS boot order to C,A,SCSI on a SCSI-less system. When the boot floppy is inserted into the drive and boot brings up the Grub menu from HD and I choose to boot from floppy, an error message comes up: Could not find ramdisk image: initrd.img. If I change the BIOS to boot order A,C,SCSI, I still get the same error message. Doesn't 8.1 know how to make a usable boot floppy? What am I doing wrong that I can't initiate boot from the floppy? -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Boot Floppy Created During 8.1 Installation
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:46, Felix Miata wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding it's purpose. When chosing Grub as boot loader during install, the last menu choice is to boot from floppy. I set the BIOS boot order to C,A,SCSI on a SCSI-less system. When the boot floppy is inserted into the drive and boot brings up the Grub menu from HD and I choose to boot from floppy, an error message comes up: Could not find ramdisk image: initrd.img. If I change the BIOS to boot order A,C,SCSI, I still get the same error message. Doesn't 8.1 know how to make a usable boot floppy? What am I doing wrong that I can't initiate boot from the floppy? Can you boot at all? What filesystem are you using for your /boot or / partitions (some just don't work) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: floppy file system
Thank you! The only trouble is that if I use a DOS formatted floppy it dumps my long fine names. When I try to put them back as they should be they don't function properly for some reason. -- - Nick Registered Linux User #225209 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ide-floppy - Zip Drive error
Can someone please tell what this means and what I have set incorrectly? L-M 8.0, as did other release since 7.0, sets up my Zip Drive as an ide-floppy. I don't use it often but now when I try to access, either from KDE GUI or a command line my system freezes, sometimes for a long time, sometimes it forces a reset button restart. The error message repeats many, many times ide-floppy: hdb I/O error pc = 28, key = 5, asc = 2, ascq = 0 I looks, to me, that Linux(?) has lost the IRQ for the Zip drive and it freezes while it is searching for the Zip Drive? -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED] My GnuPG Key ID: 78A3ADB0
Re: [expert] boot floppy building
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/index.html Hopefully you have installed the howto's with your linux. Mine are in /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/ But i've downloaded updates from linuxdoc.org. Cheers, j --- "tony K." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can some kind soul explain the process of building a (presumably compressed) linux boot floppy, assuming one has the zImage and file system (/bin, /dev. etc...) No need to spare me RTFM, ony to point me in the right direction. :0 thanks in advanve... tk __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[expert] boot floppy building
Can some kind soul explain the process of building a (presumably compressed) linux boot floppy, assuming one has the zImage and file system (/bin, /dev. etc...) No need to spare me RTFM, ony to point me in the right direction. :0 thanks in advanve... tk
Re: [expert] boot floppy building
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 04:58 pm, tony K. wrote: Can some kind soul explain the process of building a (presumably compressed) linux boot floppy, assuming one has the zImage and file system (/bin, /dev. etc...) No need to spare me RTFM, ony to point me in the right direction. :0 as root type 'mkbootdisk $(uname -r)' (w/o the 's) -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[expert] boot floppy cant mount root
Hi,. I installed and configured a 2.4.0 kernel for intel 815 support but when i create a boot floppy and boot from it say it cant mount the root fs and gives a kernel panic, All this works correctly with my old 2.2.x kernel using the same process,.. Is there any way to give the kernel the root mountpoint on the lilo commandline,.. boot: linux root=/dev/hdd5 (which is correct for my system) does not seem to work. -- regards --- Matthew J Fletcher NPD Firmware --- ** Serck Controls Ltd, Rowley Drive, Coventry, CV3 4FH, UK Tel: 44 (0) 24 7630 5050 Fax: 44 (0) 24 7630 2437 Web: www.serck-controls.co.uk Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the above. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Serck Controls Ltd. Please note that Serck Controls Ltd is able to, and reserves the right to, monitor e-mail communications passing through its network. This email has been checked for viruses. Serck Controls Ltd shall not be responsible for damage caused by any undetected virus. ** Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
If you have another Linux computer on the network, you can do what I did. I don't have a CD-ROM burner so I downloaded the iso to my Slackware Linux. I mounted the iso with a loopback device (mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 /path/to/iso.image /mnt/cdrom). I then setup the NFS export for /mnt/cdrom. I then did a NFS install on the target computer. Pretty kewl, I think. Hope this helps, Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of M Thompson Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? I would suggest borrowing a friend's external CD-ROM. It would be a feat to fit 650Mb onto multiple floppy disks. Matt From: "Sean Armstrong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:14:26 CDT Does anyone know how to do a floppy install with Mandrake 7.0-7.02?? I don't have a cdrom drive on an old notebook that I've been running Debian on. I would like to install Mandrake 7.0-7.02 on it instead using floppies. Is this possible? Thanx, SA __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] The floppy weirdness is gone.
Anybody who says that Linux *applications* never crash is blowing smoke. Anybody who says that X never locks up is, too. Only quite rarely does X lock up hard enough that I can't reset x with CTL-ALT-BACKSPACE, though, whihc is shade less drastic than rebooting (doesn't drop net connections and such). It's the core kernel that doesn't get dragged down with the rest of the system. Linux doesn't do the "blue screen of death" thing. *That's* the difference. vern wrote: You know Linux isn't all that different on the desktop, all it takes is a good reboot and things are back to normal. My floppy is acting normal and Kmail just locked up while downloading these emails and I couldn't communicate with it anyway! I killed off the various processes with the big red X in KDE and restarted the Xserver still couldn't talk to so I shutdown and rebooted and all is perfect again! I don't think Bill Gates lives on this partition?? This stuff sometimes acts like his handy work! H! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY. -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
So then this is not the ONLY floppy that doesn't work. Because if it is the only floppy that doesn't work then your floppy is toast. Good Luck. SA From: Stephen Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] My floppy went away! Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:33:08 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote: Sounds like the floppie went bad or for some reason your system is recognizing the format of the floppy. I had a similar experience with my boot floppy, all I did was umount the floppy and then remount it with no tags. The mount command automatically mounts it as if it were an ext2 file system. Supermount automatically mounts the floppy as if it were a vfat file system and cdroms as if they were iso9660 systems. If none of this helps then you may have to reformat the floppy. If that doesn't work then toss it to the waste can because it got damaged somehow. I recently went through a pile of old floppies and had to throw awya about 5 of them. Good luck. SA Scott: His system does not see the floppy drive -- it's not a filesystem problem. -Stephen- __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Actually, quite common -- there were lots of Pentium notebooks sold with only a provision for external CD-ROM (having seen and troubleshooted a few of these I think it's safe to say that the manufacturers were not anticipating that the users would be reinstalling operating systems =) ) -Stephen- I'm with Stephen. Another thing: laptops aren't the only ones without CD, many offices don't have CDs on the clients and you've got to do a network (ftp or NFS) install, obviuosly booting with a diskette. Rafa
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
Okay here goes, I don't see any difference! I issued the command supermount disable, do I have to go into /etc/fstab and edit out supermount?? In the command line I tried all the mount/umount /dev/fd0, /mnt/floppy still can't read the floppy. I did get an I/O error trying to enter the /mnt/floppy file. But none of the above ever activates the drive so it's not a media, or file system problem. Any ideas? Vern On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, with that file (supermount enabled) mount /dev/fd0 is invalid, but should also be unnecessary. With suprmount disabled, though, it should work. Maybe you could also post your /etc/fstab with supermount disabled as well? vern wrote: This is spooky! I no longer have the ability to read my floppy. It worked for almost 2 days after installing Mdk 7.0-2. I tried to mount the /dev/fd0 and got the reading not found in my fstab or mtab (see attached) looks like they are there to me. Any ideas? I've also tried supermount enable and disable no change. Thanks for reading this! Vern PS. The IDE CDROM works after I told it that it was a scis (scuzzy)! :-) /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, you wrote: And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Not really. I've got a P133 notebook with floppy, but no CDROM. I *can* have a CD if I want to take out the floppy drive. :-) John
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
Yes, but without the external CD-ROM being available, either? I mean, I've *done* a Linux floppy install (5+ years ago), and that is *painful*. A great deal more painful than plugging in the external CD-ROM, and Linux has gotten a lot bigger since then. "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Actually, quite common -- there were lots of Pentium notebooks sold with only a provision for external CD-ROM (having seen and troubleshooted a few of these I think it's safe to say that the manufacturers were not anticipating that the users would be reinstalling operating systems =) ) -Stephen- -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
I understand how painful it can be for some OS (no name mentioned, Win95 30+ floppies), but I can install the minimal Debian with nine floppies that takes less than 30 Minutes and Slackware takes even fewer floppies and about the same time. I know all of this, but Debian doesn't work with 2.2.+ kernels yet, and slackware is setup differently. You ought to be able to do a Minimal install with floppies, say 10 or less, with no problem. It shouldn't be 'too' hard for Mandrake to set this up with a seperate .img of their distribution. Or include it in the current distribution. After the minimal installation is finished, I should be able to add whatever packages I want with RPM. Now all of this debating over whether computers exist out there without floppies or whether people without floppies should turn to a different less effective distribution is counter productive. If there is a way to do a floppy install of Mandrake I would love to hear it. If there isn't, I would love to hear that also so that I can complain to Mandrake about another group of computer users they are pushing away. If you all want a big cumudgeon of an operating system that is pnp from the start only, then this is counter the purpose of Linux and eveyone should go back to Windbloze. The whole purpose of Linux was that it could be run on any computer with out taking up a whole bunch of space, and now Mandrake requires a minimal install of around 600Mb. Granted there is alot of free software included, but even Windows doesn't take up this much hard drive space on it's initial install. Well maybe W2K does. Anyways I would appreciate any help on this floppy install idea. Thanx, Yes, but without the external CD-ROM being available, either? I mean, I've *done* a Linux floppy install (5+ years ago), and that is *painful*. A great deal more painful than plugging in the external CD-ROM, and Linux has gotten a lot bigger since then. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
Sounds like the floppie went bad or for some reason your system is recognizing the format of the floppy. I had a similar experience with my boot floppy, all I did was umount the floppy and then remount it with no tags. The mount command automatically mounts it as if it were an ext2 file system. Supermount automatically mounts the floppy as if it were a vfat file system and cdroms as if they were iso9660 systems. If none of this helps then you may have to reformat the floppy. If that doesn't work then toss it to the waste can because it got damaged somehow. I recently went through a pile of old floppies and had to throw awya about 5 of them. Good luck. SA From: vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] My floppy went away! Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:30:04 -0400 Okay here goes, I don't see any difference! I issued the command supermount disable, do I have to go into /etc/fstab and edit out supermount?? In the command line I tried all the mount/umount /dev/fd0, /mnt/floppy still can't read the floppy. I did get an I/O error trying to enter the /mnt/floppy file. But none of the above ever activates the drive so it's not a media, or file system problem. Any ideas? Vern On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, with that file (supermount enabled) mount /dev/fd0 is invalid, but should also be unnecessary. With suprmount disabled, though, it should work. Maybe you could also post your /etc/fstab with supermount disabled as well? vern wrote: This is spooky! I no longer have the ability to read my floppy. It worked for almost 2 days after installing Mdk 7.0-2. I tried to mount the /dev/fd0 and got the reading not found in my fstab or mtab (see attached) looks like they are there to me. Any ideas? I've also tried supermount enable and disable no change. Thanks for reading this! Vern PS. The IDE CDROM works after I told it that it was a scis (scuzzy)! :-) fstab __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote: Sounds like the floppie went bad or for some reason your system is recognizing the format of the floppy. I had a similar experience with my boot floppy, all I did was umount the floppy and then remount it with no tags. The mount command automatically mounts it as if it were an ext2 file system. Supermount automatically mounts the floppy as if it were a vfat file system and cdroms as if they were iso9660 systems. If none of this helps then you may have to reformat the floppy. If that doesn't work then toss it to the waste can because it got damaged somehow. I recently went through a pile of old floppies and had to throw awya about 5 of them. Good luck. SA Scott: His system does not see the floppy drive -- it's not a filesystem problem. -Stephen-
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
vern wrote: Okay here goes, I don't see any difference! I issued the command supermount disable, do I have to go into /etc/fstab and edit out supermount?? In the command line I tried all the mount/umount /dev/fd0, /mnt/floppy still can't read the floppy. I did get an I/O error trying to enter the /mnt/floppy file. But none of the above ever activates the drive so it's not a media, or file system problem. Any ideas? Vern Well, let's start by making sure your floppy drive is working. In your BIOS, enable "boot up floppy seek" and then reboot and see if the drive spins. (I would also recommend commenting out the floppy line in your fstab) -Stephen-
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
If you do "supermount disable", it should re-write the /etc/fstab file to get rid of the supermount. Indeed, that's the only thing that supermount really does, so if it doesn't do this, there's not much point to the exercise. Are you running supermount as root? I'd try changing fstab by hand; you want it to look like this: /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,user0 0 See if that will fix you up. vern wrote: Okay here goes, I don't see any difference! I issued the command supermount disable, do I have to go into /etc/fstab and edit out supermount?? In the command line I tried all the mount/umount /dev/fd0, /mnt/floppy still can't read the floppy. I did get an I/O error trying to enter the /mnt/floppy file. But none of the above ever activates the drive so it's not a media, or file system problem. Any ideas? Vern On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, with that file (supermount enabled) mount /dev/fd0 is invalid, but should also be unnecessary. With suprmount disabled, though, it should work. Maybe you could also post your /etc/fstab with supermount disabled as well? vern wrote: This is spooky! I no longer have the ability to read my floppy. It worked for almost 2 days after installing Mdk 7.0-2. I tried to mount the /dev/fd0 and got the reading not found in my fstab or mtab (see attached) looks like they are there to me. Any ideas? I've also tried supermount enable and disable no change. Thanks for reading this! Vern PS. The IDE CDROM works after I told it that it was a scis (scuzzy)! :-) Name: fstab fstabType: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: base64 -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
[expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
Does anyone know how to do a floppy install with Mandrake 7.0-7.02?? I don't have a cdrom drive on an old notebook that I've been running Debian on. I would like to install Mandrake 7.0-7.02 on it instead using floppies. Is this possible? Thanx, SA __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
I would suggest borrowing a friend's external CD-ROM. It would be a feat to fit 650Mb onto multiple floppy disks. Matt From: "Sean Armstrong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:14:26 CDT Does anyone know how to do a floppy install with Mandrake 7.0-7.02?? I don't have a cdrom drive on an old notebook that I've been running Debian on. I would like to install Mandrake 7.0-7.02 on it instead using floppies. Is this possible? Thanx, SA __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Sean Armstrong wrote: Why would it have to be 650MB? The base install to run Linux should be no more than 50Mb at the most. This is without any graphics whatsoever. There should be a way to do this with floppies then I can just add whatever I want with RPM. If there isn't a way to do this Mandrake 'ought to look into it. Thanx, Sa From: "M Thompson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:35:22 GMT I would suggest borrowing a friend's external CD-ROM. It would be a feat to fit 650Mb onto multiple floppy disks. Matt From: "Sean Armstrong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install??? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:14:26 CDT Does anyone know how to do a floppy install with Mandrake 7.0-7.02?? I don't have a cdrom drive on an old notebook that I've been running Debian on. I would like to install Mandrake 7.0-7.02 on it instead using floppies. Is this possible? Thanx, SA __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Mandrake Floppy Install???
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: If you want to do a floppy install, use Slackware. I would not expect or hope that Mandrake would waste time creating a floppy install; it's a rather specialized/unusual requirement, it would be hard work, and there's another distribution already that serves that particular niche market well. One of the advantages of Linux with its multiple distribution is that you can find one for your style and your niche and each need not be engaged in a hopeless quest to be all things to all people. And you really have a notebook with a Pentium but no CD-ROM? Sort of unusual, no? Actually, quite common -- there were lots of Pentium notebooks sold with only a provision for external CD-ROM (having seen and troubleshooted a few of these I think it's safe to say that the manufacturers were not anticipating that the users would be reinstalling operating systems =) ) -Stephen-
[expert] My floppy went away!
This is spooky! I no longer have the ability to read my floppy. It worked for almost 2 days after installing Mdk 7.0-2. I tried to mount the /dev/fd0 and got the reading not found in my fstab or mtab (see attached) looks like they are there to me. Any ideas? I've also tried supermount enable and disable no change. Thanks for reading this! Vern PS. The IDE CDROM works after I told it that it was a scis (scuzzy)! :-) -- Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanna race? My penguin can do 466.94 BogoMIPS /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=auto,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext2 rw 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,conv=binary 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount rw,fs=auto,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount rw,fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
Well, with that file (supermount enabled) mount /dev/fd0 is invalid, but should also be unnecessary. With suprmount disabled, though, it should work. Maybe you could also post your /etc/fstab with supermount disabled as well? vern wrote: This is spooky! I no longer have the ability to read my floppy. It worked for almost 2 days after installing Mdk 7.0-2. I tried to mount the /dev/fd0 and got the reading not found in my fstab or mtab (see attached) looks like they are there to me. Any ideas? I've also tried supermount enable and disable no change. Thanks for reading this! Vern PS. The IDE CDROM works after I told it that it was a scis (scuzzy)! :-) -- Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanna race? My penguin can do 466.94 BogoMIPS Name: fstab fstabType: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: base64 Name: mtab mtabType: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: base64 -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
Vern wrote: Thanks again Civileme for answering my messages, I hope my mailer does better this time around. I have a pretty generic setup hardware wise I believe. It's a six month old Hewlett Packard Pavilion 6540C, Intel Celeron 466Mhz. All onboard junk video/audio/modem I junked the modem in favor of a external USR model which worked flawlessly in MDK 6.1 I need to read my floppy which has the RPMS to drive my on board video (i810 based) it all worked in the 6.1 version. I used the "recommended" install, Lothar entered a bogus "scuzzy" device for an alternate CD-ROM (two on the list). I can spin the floppy with a manual mount command but nothing shows on the /mnt/floppy directory? I'm still using VGA16 which won't let me see all the options in the config GUI displays. Thanks again for taking the time to mess with all this "newbie" stuff! Vern - Original Message - From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom? Vern asked: Which files do I edit to get access to my floppy disk and CD RoM? (or words to that effect) Vern, your mailer is sending your text as attachments and that format killed one of my replies Vern, I don't understand. Your floppy and CDROM should be immediately accessible without editing any files, unless you did an expert install with PARANOID security or you have some really strange hardware. Without more information, I have no idea how to help you. I do recomend to newer users that they start with LOW security level until they learn the dodges needed to work with the higher ones. Just running linux is a deterrent to most script kiddies and mandrake doesn't have any 3-year old binaries full of holes for them to exploit. The higher levels are fine, once you know how to work the system. But the only file to really "edit" to get the access would be /etc/fstab. If you have to ask, I recommend you use DrakConf-Linuxconf-access local filesystems as your editor, because a mistake in directly editing /etc/fstab could leave you reaching for the rescue floppy and learning the chroot command. Civileme OK Now I understand. Brian is right in his guesses. /etc/fstab should look like this . . . /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto sync,user,noauto,nosuid,nodev,unhide 0 0 /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 auto user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev,ro 0 0 /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 auto user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev,ro 0 0 Now there are some symbolic links to make as well to set up those CDs For that, how about posting the output of # dmesg Civileme -- Remember that if it is done on networks, it may occur on your host which is a network unto itself. -- Remember that if it is done on networks, it may occur on your host which is a network unto itself.
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
I want to thank you again Civileme for taking time to answer my messages! I'm back to Mandrake 6.1 now where everything is happy! Back on Kmail (my favorite), my video is full screen, high res. after applying the Intel 810 chipset patches (the module would never rebuild under the new mdk 7.0 kernel) my drives are happy and all is functional. I would like to apply the new Netscrape 4.7 to my operation so the new 7.0 disks are not a complete waste of money. I haven't had any luck with that, netscape needs a couple of libraries to work (compat-glibc, and compat-libs) tried to install them and one of the files wouldn't decompress because it was a directory and not a file. Tried the old ones from the 6.1 discs, but they are incompatible with the 4.70 on the mdk 7.0 discs. I went to the source disk and "installed" 4.70 from there via RPM (I'm no wizard) so I stay with RPM's when possible. Do you know where the files were placed when I "installed" the source 4.70 netscape? It wasn't "installed" and I need to know the next step. HELP? Thanks again for the help! Vern On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: Vern wrote: Thanks again Civileme for answering my messages, I hope my mailer does better this time around. I have a pretty generic setup hardware wise I believe. It's a six month old Hewlett Packard Pavilion 6540C, Intel Celeron 466Mhz. All on board junk video/audio/modem I junked the modem in favor of a external USR model which worked flawlessly in MDK 6.1 I need to read my floppy which has the RPMS to drive my on board video (i810 based) it all worked in the 6.1 version. I used the "recommended" install, Lothar entered a bogus "scuzzy" device for an alternate CD-ROM (two on the list). I can spin the floppy with a manual mount command but nothing shows on the /mnt/floppy directory? I'm still using VGA16 which won't let me see all the options in the config GUI displays. Thanks again for taking the time to mess with all this "newbie" stuff! Vern
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
Well, that depends. If (as I'm guessing) the install process put "hdc=ide-scsi" in your lilo.conf, because you have a CD-R (CD-Recordable) drive, then your drive is *not* /dev/hdc, although it was under 6.1. *If* I'm right, then your drive *is* /dev/scd0, although it was /dev/hdc under Mandrake 6.1, but then you couldn't write with it under 6.1 and you will be able to under 7.0 (once you get a fixed version of mkisofs, that is--the shipped version is defective--see my home page for more info). But I'm just guessing because you really didn't supply enough information. Do you have a CD-R drive? Could you past in your /etc/lilo.conf file? Could you send us your startup messages (output of dmesg)? Then I could know instead of just guessing. On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, you wrote: | Hello again Brian, | My CD-ROM is /dev/hdc so would the following | be: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom ? The floppy is | now "supermounting" as it should. | Thanks for the help! | Vern | | - Original Message - | From: Brian T. Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 11:17 PM | Subject: Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom? | | | | Well, it "should" work out of the box, and you didn't give much info, | but I'll take a stab in the dark. | | 1. "supermount disable" will allow you to access your non-DOS-formatted | floppies (the old fashioned way, with mount). | 2. "rm /dev/cdrom; ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom" will let you access your | CD-RW drive from reading CD-ROMS. | | The former is a "feature" that many of find to be more trouble than | it's worth; the latter is a bug. | | On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, you wrote: | | | | After installing Mandrake 7.0 what files do I edit | | to give me access to my floppy and cdrom? | | Thanks, | | Vern | | | | | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable | Content-Description: | | | -- | "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org | Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. | Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com. | -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
Thanks Brian, I'll give these a whirl before I reinstall Mdk 6.1 it all worked "out of the box" in 6.1 and I'm more of a newbie and can't deal with the "bleeding edge" thingy right now in my learning days. I've got many text on Linux and "supermount" nor the CDROM issue is documented anywhere! Thanks again! Vern - Original Message - From: Brian T. Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom? Well, it "should" work out of the box, and you didn't give much info, but I'll take a stab in the dark. 1. "supermount disable" will allow you to access your non-DOS-formatted floppies (the old fashioned way, with mount). 2. "rm /dev/cdrom; ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom" will let you access your CD-RW drive from reading CD-ROMS. The former is a "feature" that many of find to be more trouble than it's worth; the latter is a bug. On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, you wrote: | | After installing Mandrake 7.0 what files do I edit | to give me access to my floppy and cdrom? | Thanks, | Vern | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
Hello again Brian, My CD-ROM is /dev/hdc so would the following be: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom ? The floppy is now "supermounting" as it should. Thanks for the help! Vern - Original Message - From: Brian T. Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom? Well, it "should" work out of the box, and you didn't give much info, but I'll take a stab in the dark. 1. "supermount disable" will allow you to access your non-DOS-formatted floppies (the old fashioned way, with mount). 2. "rm /dev/cdrom; ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom" will let you access your CD-RW drive from reading CD-ROMS. The former is a "feature" that many of find to be more trouble than it's worth; the latter is a bug. On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, you wrote: | | After installing Mandrake 7.0 what files do I edit | to give me access to my floppy and cdrom? | Thanks, | Vern | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, you wrote: Hello again Brian, My CD-ROM is /dev/hdc so would the following be: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom ? The floppy is now "supermounting" as it should. That's correct. If you do an "ls -l" on /dev/cdrom, it SHOULD indicated that it's already sym-linked to /dev/hdc. John
[expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
After installing Mandrake 7.0 what files do I edit to give me access to my floppy and cdrom? Thanks, Vern
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
Well, it "should" work out of the box, and you didn't give much info, but I'll take a stab in the dark. 1. "supermount disable" will allow you to access your non-DOS-formatted floppies (the old fashioned way, with mount). 2. "rm /dev/cdrom; ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom" will let you access your CD-RW drive from reading CD-ROMS. The former is a "feature" that many of find to be more trouble than it's worth; the latter is a bug. On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, you wrote: | | After installing Mandrake 7.0 what files do I edit | to give me access to my floppy and cdrom? | Thanks, | Vern | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
Vern asked: Which files do I edit to get access to my floppy disk and CD RoM? (or words to that effect) Vern, your mailer is sending your text as attachments and that format killed one of my replies Vern, I don't understand. Your floppy and CDROM should be immediately accessible without editing any files, unless you did an expert install with PARANOID security or you have some really strange hardware. Without more information, I have no idea how to help you. I do recomend to newer users that they start with LOW security level until they learn the dodges needed to work with the higher ones. Just running linux is a deterrent to most script kiddies and mandrake doesn't have any 3-year old binaries full of holes for them to exploit. The higher levels are fine, once you know how to work the system. But the only file to really "edit" to get the access would be /etc/fstab. If you have to ask, I recommend you use DrakConf-Linuxconf-access local filesystems as your editor, because a mistake in directly editing /etc/fstab could leave you reaching for the rescue floppy and learning the chroot command. Civileme -- Remember that if it is done on networks, it may occur on your host which is a network unto itself.
RE: [expert] local floppy CD
let me see, if I have this correct. Do you want the user to be able to access there local floppy on the server? I.E. grab programs off the local floppy and access it on the Mandrake server? Al Smith Systems Engineer Thomas Jefferson University Hospital [EMAIL PROTECTED] both floppy and cdrom are mounted at startup. but Exceed don't operate on the system itself, It's just an interface between windoz and Linux. So the thing to change must be within Linux... -Original Message- From: Sam [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] local floppy CD Do you mount /dev/floppy /floppy ? The software changes the /dev/floppy device? - Original Message - From: Nicolas Le Gaillart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 4:29 AM Subject: [expert] local floppy CD Hi, I'm using a network of PCs under NT, which use also Linux Mandrake 5.3 via a server under this environment and a software called Exceed 5. When I mount the floppy, or the CD-ROM reader, this mount the floppy/CD of the server (no problem so far..) But I'd want each user of the network to access their own floppy or CD (that is, their LOCAL device, and not the device of the server) I'm not sure it's possible, but just in case I ask... Thanks in advance.
