Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 20:00, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > Hi, > > I just tried 3 times to d'l the first ISO of RC2. First I used the > browser (Mozilla) with a German mirror (ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de). The > download stopped at 50KB left(!) and tiemd out. Trying to resume failed > because the browser told me that the files are identical. md5sum check > failed! > > Then I used pure ftp, opened a US server (mirrors.usc.edu) and failed > again with the same behaviour! > > Then I used ncftp (my normal ftp app) and failed again! Each time with > just 50KB left and ncftp tells me that the "local file appears to be the > same as the remote file, no transfer necessary". > > And, yes, I switched explicitely to "binary" transfer! > > Wasted 2.5 hours and 1.8GB of my 5GB-limit! Arrgh! > > wobo wobo, Say "aye" and give me your adress I'll send you a copy of CD1 and 2 (didn't dwl CD3 -sorry). No problem whatsoever. From NL it should be at your adress on Thursday or Friday at the most. BTW I dloaded from the dutch surfnet mirror simply using konqueror with double pane and dragging & dropping the iso's to my /home/triade directory. Did take all Sunday afternoon though. I even cancelled and resumed a few times:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
Hello. Am Dienstag, 9. September 2003 20:00 schrieb Wolfgang Bornath: > I just tried 3 times to d'l the first ISO of RC2. First I used the > browser (Mozilla) with a German mirror (ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de). The > download stopped at 50KB left(!) and tiemd out. Trying to resume failed > because the browser told me that the files are identical. md5sum check > failed! I took my Mozilla and downloaded from a server in the Netherlands [1], did a fine job. Regards, Thorsten [1] ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 9, 2003 12:00 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > Hi, > > I just tried 3 times to d'l the first ISO of RC2. First I used the > browser (Mozilla) with a German mirror (ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de). The > download stopped at 50KB left(!) and tiemd out. Trying to resume > failed because the browser told me that the files are identical. > md5sum check failed! > > Then I used pure ftp, opened a US server (mirrors.usc.edu) and failed > again with the same behaviour! > > Then I used ncftp (my normal ftp app) and failed again! Each time > with just 50KB left and ncftp tells me that the "local file appears > to be the same as the remote file, no transfer necessary". > > And, yes, I switched explicitely to "binary" transfer! > > Wasted 2.5 hours and 1.8GB of my 5GB-limit! Arrgh! > > wobo Howdy; Have you a set of ISOs from the last release still? If so you can rename them and rsync them with the mirror of your choice to save at least some bandwidth. Greg Meyer did a "mini tutorial" on doing that. A link can be found on the cooker TWiki, or at his page: http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux If not; and it seems the connections everywhere are dragging along like molasses in January, you may want to try the bit torrent. I'm feeding it back up from here at roughly 60 kilobytes per second from the set I rsynced from sunet.se last night. Md5sums checked, clean downloads. The "main" torrent page for triggering the download from a browser: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent or open a terminal in the directory you want the ISOs in and use this: btdownloadcurses.py --url http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent - --saveas MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 I hope you can grab them one way or another without too much more trouble. If you use the torrent please leave it running for a while after completion to ease the traffic jam on the mirrors? I'll leave mine up for probably another 12 hours or so. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-6mdk 13:29:42 up 1 day, 14:59, 1 user, load average: 0.29, 0.23, 0.28 "Elvis is my copilot." - -- Cal Keegan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Xi6ZG11CaRuZZSIRAo5DAJ9Zw5bmXCne5sbicni3V+nqPwjeJACggffk /Va9fJHItkej04WWjGueSQA= =+jY8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 20:48, Charlie M. wrote: > Howdy; > > Have you a set of ISOs from the last release still? If so you can rename > them and rsync them with the mirror of your choice to save at least > some bandwidth. > > Greg Meyer did a "mini tutorial" on doing that. A link can be found on > the cooker TWiki, or at his page: > > http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux > > If not; and it seems the connections everywhere are dragging along like > molasses in January, you may want to try the bit torrent. I'm feeding > it back up from here at roughly 60 kilobytes per second from the set I > rsynced from sunet.se last night. Md5sums checked, clean downloads. > > The "main" torrent page for triggering the download from a browser: > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent > > or open a terminal in the directory you want the ISOs in and use this: > > btdownloadcurses.py --url > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent > - --saveas MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 > > I hope you can grab them one way or another without too much more > trouble. > > If you use the torrent please leave it running for a while after > completion to ease the traffic jam on the mirrors? I'll leave mine up > for probably another 12 hours or so. > > Regards; > Charlie Charlie, You're lucky Anne is just looking away or she'd be asking you to put this up on the wiki:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 01:34 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > From NL it should be at your adress on Thursday or Friday at the > most. > > OOps, withdrawing that: I dloaded RC1. > Sticking head in toilet and flushing.. > > Good luck, > HarM There's been a sh!+load of updates since RC2. Just update RC1, probly easier than re-getting RC2. urpmi.update -a -f --wget && urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v, on the main mirrors. At least they didn't play bittorrent games this time. Best way to turn broadband into a 14,4K dialup connection IMO. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 9, 2003 01:55 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2003 20:48, Charlie M. wrote: > > Howdy; > > > > Have you a set of ISOs from the last release still? If so you can > > rename them and rsync them with the mirror of your choice to save > > at least some bandwidth. > > > > Greg Meyer did a "mini tutorial" on doing that. A link can be found > > on the cooker TWiki, or at his page: > > > > http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux > > > > If not; and it seems the connections everywhere are dragging along > > like molasses in January, you may want to try the bit torrent. I'm > > feeding it back up from here at roughly 60 kilobytes per second > > from the set I rsynced from sunet.se last night. Md5sums checked, > > clean downloads. > > > > The "main" torrent page for triggering the download from a browser: > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent > > > > or open a terminal in the directory you want the ISOs in and use > > this: > > > > btdownloadcurses.py --url > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent > > - --saveas MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 > > > > I hope you can grab them one way or another without too much more > > trouble. > > > > If you use the torrent please leave it running for a while after > > completion to ease the traffic jam on the mirrors? I'll leave mine > > up for probably another 12 hours or so. > > > > Regards; > > Charlie > > Charlie, > > You're lucky Anne is just looking away or she'd be asking you to put > this up on the wiki:o) > > Good luck, > HarM Don't give her any ideas HarM! She'll probably be nice to me 'cause she knows I haven't slept in about 65 or 66 hours. It's been one of those weeks, and it's only Tuesday. I think 'Course if I do it again she'll probably have me flogged around the square or something. You can copy and paste anything that may be of any use to the Community TWiki, can't you Anne? Pretty please? With sugar on it? Sprinkles? Chocolate sauce? lol I just noticed the fortune on this message. My system is insane; which is OK since apparently I am too. Gotta hurry away again so I can get close enough to started so that I'll feel I'm making at least _some_ headway. Some *hobby* I picked. Peace; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-6mdk 14:59:49 up 1 day, 16:29, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.22, 0.13 Anything that is good and useful is made of chocolate. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/XkHWG11CaRuZZSIRAlX4AJ9milZdNgwJoIHo9uvntQ6+BequzACfZRji m+LTdDoqh8L+1ykn26zAvOE= =cgLA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 23:10, Charlie M. wrote: > Gotta hurry away again so I can get close enough to started so that I'll > feel I'm making at least _some_ headway. Some *hobby* I picked. > > Peace; > Charlie Heheheh, Charlie buy yourself a boat, get grounded (accidentally) at high tide and enjoy the peace and quiet (and if you took some meat along: the barbecue). I can recommend it:o) Don't do it in the hurricane season though! Good luck (and night), HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 9, 2003 03:02 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Tuesday September 9 2003 01:34 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > From NL it should be at your adress on Thursday or Friday at the > > most. > > > > OOps, withdrawing that: I dloaded RC1. > > Sticking head in toilet and flushing.. > > > > Good luck, > > HarM > > There's been a sh!+load of updates since RC2. Just update RC1, > probly easier than re-getting RC2. > > urpmi.update -a -f --wget && urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm > --auto-select -v, on the main mirrors. > > At least they didn't play bittorrent games this time. Best way to > turn broadband into a 14,4K dialup connection IMO. We did (are doing) the torrent thing Tom, just not limiting the downloads to the torrent. I'm still feeding a 60 kilobyte stream back up even though I rsynced the RC1 ISOs from sunet rather than waiting forever for the torrent to do anything. I tried it (briefly) just for grins and giggles and the download speed was actually acceptable this time. I set max-upload at 500 and was tripping 40 to 55 KB both ways. Not fast but not bad. Will that command you provided above work against my local (hdb5) cooker? It should right? Thank you. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-6mdk 15:40:47 up 1 day, 17:10, 1 user, load average: 0.78, 0.48, 0.29 Consider well the proportions of things. It is better to be a young June-bug than an old bird of paradise. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/XknpG11CaRuZZSIRApypAJ0ZyAH0ClhMifSunLQ9j6GFzUawxACdF1Bx mTUmc1rCZ2X59sRHiwmO8uI= =p9RL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 9, 2003 03:45 pm, Charlie M. wrote: > Will that command you provided above work against my local (hdb5) > cooker? It should right? > > Thank you. > > Charlie Never mind. I seem to have fallen into a loop of dependency hell here. kdnetwork blahbla.32 needs kdenetworkblahblah.32 Installation failed. According to urpmi I only need a grand total of 57 MB to be current. The rpms are on the hard drive, but it just keeps displaying the same errors and won't install the blasted packages. Screw it, I'll just boot to the hdinstall.img and upgrade install them. 18 hours of feeding bit torrent is enough for now. But first I sleep! :-) Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-6mdk 15:47:27 up 1 day, 17:17, 1 user, load average: 0.40, 0.43, 0.31 The girl who stoops to conquer usually wears a low-cut dress. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/XkwVG11CaRuZZSIRAja0AJ997x74Yx7aDxwPa3J8eKiv5QC36QCfVRz1 j48ravb0q6Vmv6wnPc6NsiM= =beu1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 02:00 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > I just tried 3 times to d'l the first ISO of RC2. First I used the > browser (Mozilla) with a German mirror (ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de). The > download stopped at 50KB left(!) and tiemd out. Trying to resume failed > because the browser told me that the files are identical. md5sum check > failed! > > Then I used pure ftp, opened a US server (mirrors.usc.edu) and failed > again with the same behaviour! Out of disk space? -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 04:45 pm, Charlie M. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > September 9, 2003 03:02 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Tuesday September 9 2003 01:34 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > > > From NL it should be at your adress on Thursday or Friday at > > > the most. > > > > > > OOps, withdrawing that: I dloaded RC1. > > > Sticking head in toilet and flushing.. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > HarM > > > > There's been a sh!+load of updates since RC2. Just update > > RC1, probly easier than re-getting RC2. > > > > urpmi.update -a -f --wget && urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm > > --auto-select -v, on the main mirrors. > > > > At least they didn't play bittorrent games this time. Best > > way to turn broadband into a 14,4K dialup connection IMO. > > We did (are doing) the torrent thing Tom, I know. Some people like abuse ;> > just not limiting the > downloads to the torrent. When I got up this mornin to find the RC2 iso's were on the mirrors, I was readin the cooker list. Sure enough a plea to run bittorrent. So what'a hey, I tried it for a while. Started with 30KB/s incoming, 0 to 3K upload. After ten minutes it was 0 to 3 incoming and 10 KB upload. I reckon in ten minutes I'd already d/l'd the sum of the pool that was available, an everybody else was suckin on me for all I'm worth. So I quit that worthless BS, and d/l'd the iso's from sunsite. I'd like to believe that the iso's were available from ftp at the same time as bittorcrap, after the rants me an a few others voiced the last time (see above) about the iso's not being on the mirrors, and only at first by bitchtorrent. > I'm still feeding a 60 kilobyte stream > back up even though I rsynced the RC1 ISOs from sunet rather than > waiting forever for the torrent to do anything. I tried it > (briefly) just for grins and giggles and the download speed was > actually acceptable this time. I set max-upload at 500 and was > tripping 40 to 55 KB both ways. Not fast but not bad. I've never had any luck with rsync. Screwed up mirrors, package version naming convention changes, can really fsck'ya. Plus I don't wanna maintain a local mirror. Like most all cookers, I stay current with urpmi --auto-select on cooker Net mirrors. As to upstream, most broadband connections here in the States like mine are very skewed. I get at 1.5Mbit, but only give at 128Kbit. (actually more like 145KBytes down, 10KBytes up). Like I say, bittorrent is a good way to turn a 145KB connection into a 10KB one (at best). P2P sucks in the first place. It's good for [EMAIL PROTECTED], if ya believe in that stuff. > Will that command you provided above work against my local (hdb5) > cooker? It should right? > > Thank you. > > Charlie urpmi.update -a -f --wget && urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v, on the main mirrors I add sources by hand, manage them with 'edit-s' which runs Software Sources Manager, where just a click will enable/disable mirrors. Most of the time (musical cooker mirrors, which one is worth a fsck today??), I only enable one mirror. Lately I enable 2 or 3 simultaneously that I have some previous confidence in an know that mirror different primary mirrors (sunet, sunsite). 'Course you know the -a means all sources, the -f forces a hdlist (I just get synthesis) download. I've found --wget more reliable than curl. --no-verify-rpm just saves headaches over the fsck'd up signed/unsigned/wrongly signed cooker packages lately. No, it's not for updating from your local mirror. Actually all I do is type 'cook' to stay current, alias cook='urpmi.update -a -f --wget && urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v'An update from a fresh RC1 install lately (yeah I got really screwed by the bad initscripts update last week), took little more than an hour. I reckon about the same to get past RC2, with a RC1 to current update now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 04:54 pm, Charlie M. wrote: > Never mind. I seem to have fallen into a loop of dependency hell > here. kdnetwork blahbla.32 needs kdenetworkblahblah.32 > Installation failed. Try a differnet mirror. I often update successfully from club-internet.fr when sunet is fsck'd up. An club mirrors from sunet! Go figure. Also, wait a while, try again. None of the mirrors are updating as frequently as they did in past times. An never had so many with 'missing files' as they are currently. Maybe the nephew got promoted ? > According to urpmi I only need a grand total of 57 MB to be > current. The rpms are on the hard drive, but it just keeps > displaying the same errors and won't install the blasted > packages. More like 1/3 to 1/4 of 57mb. urpmi reports the needed install space, not the d/l amount compressed in rpms. Sort'a useless for updating, since your only fixin to replace already installed packages for the most part anyhow. > Screw it, I'll just boot to the hdinstall.img and upgrade install > them. 18 hours of feeding bit torrent is enough for now. I should just quit bitchin about bittorcrap, but after ten minutes it tol' me I only had 246+ hours to go ;) The RC2 iso's were already burned 7 hours ago from an ftp d/l. Suppose I could start bittsh!+ before goin to bed, but that'd only be contributing to the mistaken delinquency and delusion of others ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday September 9 2003 04:38 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > Heheheh, Charlie buy yourself a boat, get grounded (accidentally) > at high tide and enjoy the peace and quiet (and if you took > some meat along: the barbecue). > > I can recommend it:o) > Don't do it in the hurricane season though! > > Good luck (and night), > HarM HarM, post the link you posted to the 'other' list ;) No damn boat, pretty good size ship! Maybe you could contract some dredging as an affiliate venture? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 11:00, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > Hi, > > I just tried 3 times to d'l the first ISO of RC2. First I used the > browser (Mozilla) with a German mirror (ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de). The > download stopped at 50KB left(!) and tiemd out. Trying to resume failed > because the browser told me that the files are identical. md5sum check > failed! > > Then I used pure ftp, opened a US server (mirrors.usc.edu) and failed > again with the same behaviour! > > Then I used ncftp (my normal ftp app) and failed again! Each time with > just 50KB left and ncftp tells me that the "local file appears to be the > same as the remote file, no transfer necessary". > > And, yes, I switched explicitely to "binary" transfer! > > Wasted 2.5 hours and 1.8GB of my 5GB-limit! Arrgh! > > wobo wobo, sounds like the iso is 50mb short on the mirrors. You might need to ask Warley or one of the others at cooker what's the buzz. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:55, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2003 20:48, Charlie M. wrote: > > Howdy; > > > > Have you a set of ISOs from the last release still? If so you can rename > > them and rsync them with the mirror of your choice to save at least > > some bandwidth. > > > > Greg Meyer did a "mini tutorial" on doing that. A link can be found on > > the cooker TWiki, or at his page: > > > > http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux > > > > If not; and it seems the connections everywhere are dragging along like > > molasses in January, you may want to try the bit torrent. I'm feeding > > it back up from here at roughly 60 kilobytes per second from the set I > > rsynced from sunet.se last night. Md5sums checked, clean downloads. > > > > The "main" torrent page for triggering the download from a browser: > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent > > > > or open a terminal in the directory you want the ISOs in and use this: > > > > btdownloadcurses.py --url > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2.torrent > > - --saveas MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2 > > > > I hope you can grab them one way or another without too much more > > trouble. > > > > If you use the torrent please leave it running for a while after > > completion to ease the traffic jam on the mirrors? I'll leave mine up > > for probably another 12 hours or so. > > > > Regards; > > Charlie > Charlie, > > You're lucky Anne is just looking away or she'd be asking you to put this up > on the wiki:o) He's lucky since it's on the main MDK twiki he's cleared *grin* James > > Good luck, > HarM > > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 11:00 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > Hi, > > I just tried 3 times to d'l the first ISO of RC2. First I used the > browser (Mozilla) with a German mirror (ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de). The > download stopped at 50KB left(!) and tiemd out. Trying to resume failed > because the browser told me that the files are identical. md5sum check > failed! > > Then I used pure ftp, opened a US server (mirrors.usc.edu) and failed > again with the same behaviour! > > Then I used ncftp (my normal ftp app) and failed again! Each time with > just 50KB left and ncftp tells me that the "local file appears to be the > same as the remote file, no transfer necessary". > > And, yes, I switched explicitely to "binary" transfer! > > Wasted 2.5 hours and 1.8GB of my 5GB-limit! Arrgh! > My experience over the last 2 years has been almost identical. It appears there is some sort of bug in the way the file is transferred to the mirrors or something. Do NOT try to download again from the one that gave you a bad one. That is my advice. Go to another until you find a good site. I honestly believe it is the mirror, NOT the download itself. IT IS identical from the one you downloaded. Too bad there wasn't a way to do a crc check BEFORE you downloaded eh? Or is there? > wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** Greg Meyer Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:07:43 -0400 : > On Tuesday 09 September 2003 02:00 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > I just tried 3 times to d'l the first ISO of RC2. First I used the > > browser (Mozilla) with a German mirror (ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de). The > > download stopped at 50KB left(!) and tiemd out. Trying to resume > > failed because the browser told me that the files are identical. > > md5sum check failed! > > > > Then I used pure ftp, opened a US server (mirrors.usc.edu) and > > failed again with the same behaviour! > > Out of disk space? Nope, 27GB left on the partition! It's my d'l repository. And, yes, /tmp has more than 6GB left, too. wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** H.J.Bathoorn H.J.Bathoorn Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:28:01 +0200 : > Say "aye" and give me your adress I'll send you a copy of CD1 and 2 > (didn't dwl CD3 -sorry). No problem whatsoever. > From NL it should be at your adress on Thursday or Friday at the most. > > BTW I dloaded from the dutch surfnet mirror simply using konqueror > with double pane and dragging & dropping the iso's to my /home/triade > directory. Did take all Sunday afternoon though. > I even cancelled and resumed a few times:o) I'm just d'ling CD1+2 from the NL mirror which Thorsten reported to be ok (nluug). Both downloads are running at 90.1kB/s right now and I'm going to have a big breakfast in my favourite café, read the morning paper and say Hallo to a new day! Funny thing is: I'm using one machine with ncftp and the other (this one here) with Mozilla. ncftp shows a speed of 91.56 and Mozilla shows 90.2 at the moment. This is ok for my connection. But gkrellm only shows 2.2kB/s instead of 90! Thanks for the offer, HarM. If this one also fails, I might get back to you or ask Thorsten to send 3 CDs over as he's in Germany, too. wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 02:56, Tom Brinkman wrote: >HarM, post the link you posted to the 'other' list ;) Here it is: http://people.zeelandnet.nl/triade/grounding.html have fun:o) > >No damn boat, pretty good size ship! Maybe you could contract > some dredging as an affiliate venture? How about a nice old fashioned tug with a big chimney? > -- > Tom Brinkman Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:32:29 +0200 : > I took my Mozilla and downloaded from a server in the Netherlands [1], > did a fine job. Seems to be the server then. I may have picked the 2 servers which have broken ISOs as James pointed out. I just came back from breakfast and both downloads from nluug.nl timed out at the same time! Can't be my side of the connection because mail download worked as before. I restarted ncftp and it immediately resumed download at the point it timed out. How can I do that with Mozilla? wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 07:16, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > I'm just d'ling CD1+2 from the NL mirror which Thorsten reported to be > ok (nluug). My personal experience is that the surfnet one is more reliable but that might have changed in time. > Both downloads are running at 90.1kB/s right now and I'm > going to have a big breakfast in my favourite café, read the morning > paper and say Hallo to a new day! Ha! I remember doing that when we studied/lived in Berlin. That was nice...can't do that over here in NL. Have a good day, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** H.J.Bathoorn H.J.Bathoorn Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:26:09 +0200 : > On Wednesday 10 September 2003 07:16, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > I'm just d'ling CD1+2 from the NL mirror which Thorsten reported to > > be ok (nluug). > > My personal experience is that the surfnet one is more reliable but > that might have changed in time. I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :( Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found out how I can resume a download with Mozilla. > > going to have a big breakfast in my favourite café, read the morning > > paper and say Hallo to a new day! > > Ha! I remember doing that when we studied/lived in Berlin. That was > nice...can't do that over here in NL. I thought you have cafés in NL, too? And morning papers? wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 08:32, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > I thought you have cafés in NL, too? And morning papers? Yeah, but the bread is usually horrible if you've gotten used to the German choices. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 23:32, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > *** H.J.Bathoorn H.J.Bathoorn Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:26:09 +0200 : > > > On Wednesday 10 September 2003 07:16, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > > I'm just d'ling CD1+2 from the NL mirror which Thorsten reported to > > > be ok (nluug). > > > > My personal experience is that the surfnet one is more reliable but > > that might have changed in time. > > I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both > connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :( > > Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and it's > almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found out how > I can resume a download with Mozilla. I've had luck using gftp to restart a download that Moz had aborted. when I started the download if found the original and asked what I wanted to do with resume as the recommended option. James > > > > going to have a big breakfast in my favourite café, read the morning > > > paper and say Hallo to a new day! > > > > Ha! I remember doing that when we studied/lived in Berlin. That was > > nice...can't do that over here in NL. > > I thought you have cafés in NL, too? And morning papers? > > wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 : > I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both > connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :( > > Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and > it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found > out how I can resume a download with Mozilla. Now I'm really lost! The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed out and showed: MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49 177,21 Could not read reply from control connection -- timed out get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file. The same output I received from the servers last night. This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition. Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3 downloads at the same time using ncftp. Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download I give up. Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until October... :(( wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 : I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :( Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found out how I can resume a download with Mozilla. Now I'm really lost! The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed out and showed: MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49 177,21 Could not read reply from control connection -- timed out get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file. The same output I received from the servers last night. This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition. Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3 downloads at the same time using ncftp. Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download I give up. Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until October... :(( wobo You need to get familiar with rsync. Navigate to the directory with the partial downloads and run this from the command line: rsync -Pv --stats --progress ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 03:40:00 up 3 days, 14:56, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.20, 0.25 ___ "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 : I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :( Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found out how I can resume a download with Mozilla. Now I'm really lost! The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed out and showed: MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49 177,21 Could not read reply from control connection -- timed out get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file. The same output I received from the servers last night. This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition. Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3 downloads at the same time using ncftp. Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download I give up. Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until October... :(( wobo You need to get familiar with rsync. Navigate to the directory with the partial downloads and run this from the command line: rsync -Pv --stats --progress ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes out. Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file names and run the same command. It should only download the differences between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a fraction of the time. I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it will actually give you so you may want to keep an eye on it. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 03:45:01 up 3 days, 15:01, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.27, 0.26 ___ "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 09:55, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > > You need to get familiar with rsync. Navigate to the directory with > > the partial downloads and run this from the command line: > > > > rsync -Pv --stats --progress > > ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* > > This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes out. > Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file names > and run the same command. It should only download the differences > between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a fraction of the > time. I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it will actually > give you so you may want to keep an eye on it. > > -- > Brant Fitzsimmons > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brant, I can see how this would work for directories but are you saying that rsync would actually go into the iso files to match them and then partially download? I'd think you'd need to mount them with -o loop first (and mounting the local one rw). Alas I don't have the bandwidth left to check that and it's only the first half of the month. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** Brant Fitzsimmons Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:55:31 -0400 : > Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > > > > You need to get familiar with rsync. Navigate to the directory with > > the partial downloads and run this from the command line: > > > > rsync -Pv --stats --progress > > ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* > > > This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes > out. Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file > names and run the same command. It should only download the > differences between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a > fraction of the time. I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it > will actually give you so you may want to keep an eye on it. This is great. I never cared for this because I always had enough bandwidth and a fast connection. Now James saved my day as well with his hint to gftp. What can I say: I resumed the download and it raced up to the end. Downloaded md5sum file and the checksums matched. Now I'll get the other 2 ISOs and if Final will come in September I can use your hint with rsync. I'll save it anyway for future reference. wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** James Sparenberg Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:31:54 -0700 : > I've had luck using gftp to restart a download that Moz had aborted. > when I started the download if found the original and asked what I > wanted to do with resume as the recommended option. Same here! You saved my day! Now I'm trying to kick my own butt because I already removed the other files. :( And of course I'll use Brant's advice to use rsync! This was a good learning experience how one gets careless by having more than sufficient ressources! wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 01:23, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > *** Brant Fitzsimmons Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:55:31 -0400 : > > > Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > > > > > > You need to get familiar with rsync. Navigate to the directory with > > > the partial downloads and run this from the command line: > > > > > > rsync -Pv --stats --progress > > > ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* > > > > > > This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes > > out. Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file > > names and run the same command. It should only download the > > differences between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a > > fraction of the time. I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it > > will actually give you so you may want to keep an eye on it. > > This is great. I never cared for this because I always had enough > bandwidth and a fast connection. > > Now James saved my day as well with his hint to gftp. What can I say: I > resumed the download and it raced up to the end. Downloaded md5sum file > and the checksums matched. > > Now I'll get the other 2 ISOs and if Final will come in September I can > use your hint with rsync. I'll save it anyway for future reference. > > wobo Of course you can always just set the new main contrib etc etc urpmi "points" for your install and just run urpmi --auto --auto-select No need to re-install .. you'll have final. (no disks but final) I did that from 9.0 to 9.1 on this laptop. (until the ide on the original mobo died then I did have to re-install.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** James Sparenberg Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:31:24 -0700 : > Of course you can always just set the new main contrib etc etc urpmi > "points" for your install and just run urpmi --auto --auto-select No > need to re-install .. you'll have final. (no disks but final) I did > that from 9.0 to 9.1 on this laptop. (until the ide on the original > mobo died then I did have to re-install.) Yes, but I always do a new install on a separate partition and tweak it to my needs. Then I declare that as my "working system" and move the data and clean out the old working partition to be ready for the next version. But concerning the download problems I ran into another problem. gftp downloaded the CD1 iso until about 100k to the end, then stopped. Just crashed with CPU running at 99.8% and my mail proggy told me that there's no space left on my partition to write incoming mails! I moved my /home to a spare partition and restarted the PC. Started gftp and as soon as I connected to the ftp server cpu went up to 98%. I looked at the logs and gftp showed a cache of 1.2GB. Which was the reason my home partition was full! Now gftp-log shows "Error: Unvalid line in cache index file" Logfile is growing by the second! WTF! wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
What I don't get is why it isn't shared using MLDonkey or xMule as this kinda makes people have to share the files once they're downloaded - unlike bittorrent. I have a feeling htat most people who use it stop thw upload as soon as it all downloads. You'd also find bit torrent would be a whole lot better if everyone used it. Hope that people actually consider using Donkey for downloading the ISOs as it's a great way of SHARING files. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:13:18 +0200 : > I looked at the logs and gftp showed a cache of 1.2GB. Which was the > reason my home partition was full! > > Now gftp-log shows "Error: Unvalid line in cache index file" > Logfile is growing by the second! WTF! I cleaned out the index file and restarted gftp. At the attempt to download the CD1 iso gftp asked if I want to resume an interrupted download and after "Yes" it downloaded some KB and said "Successful". It was not! Number of KB showed that the local file was nearly 80KB larger than the original. Of course, checksums did not match. Now I've wasted nearly all my bandwidth and all I have is a CD2 iso. I give up and ask someone in Germany to send me the CDs if possible. Never experienced such trouble since I started downloading iso files. wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** Michael Lothian Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:52:02 +0100 : > What I don't get is why it isn't shared using MLDonkey or xMule as > this kinda makes people have to share the files once they're > downloaded - unlike bittorrent. I have a feeling htat most people who > use it stop thw upload as soon as it all downloads. You'd also find > bit torrent would be a whole lot better if everyone used it. > > Hope that people actually consider using Donkey for downloading the > ISOs as it's a great way of SHARING files. The idea is not bad but file sharing systems like Donkey have all the smell of mp3 and video sharing systems. I'd never let any Donkey ride my machine (or was it the other way round?). Bittorrent is a whole different story. wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
At least it's designed for sharing. And I also seem to remember downloading the new tomb raider film with bittorrent and the buffy eps before they were released in the UK. It's all a matter of what you share. Mike Wolfgang Bornath wrote: *** Michael Lothian Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:52:02 +0100 : What I don't get is why it isn't shared using MLDonkey or xMule as this kinda makes people have to share the files once they're downloaded - unlike bittorrent. I have a feeling htat most people who use it stop thw upload as soon as it all downloads. You'd also find bit torrent would be a whole lot better if everyone used it. Hope that people actually consider using Donkey for downloading the ISOs as it's a great way of SHARING files. The idea is not bad but file sharing systems like Donkey have all the smell of mp3 and video sharing systems. I'd never let any Donkey ride my machine (or was it the other way round?). Bittorrent is a whole different story. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 12:31, James Sparenberg wrote: > Of course you can always just set the new main contrib etc etc urpmi > "points" for your install and just run urpmi --auto --auto-select No > need to re-install .. you'll have final. (no disks but final) I did > that from 9.0 to 9.1 on this laptop. (until the ide on the original > mobo died then I did have to re-install.) > > James This is the lazy way I did it: Dloaded the 2 cd iso's and booted & installed from that. Then removed all the cd's as media and added main, contrib and plf on top as sources. Works OK upto now. good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 03:34 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > *** Wolfgang Bornath Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:32:40 +0200 : > > > I chose nluug because Thorsten reported it as a good source. But both > > connections timed out at the same time during my coffee break. :( > > > > Good thing is that the ncftp download resumed at the breakpoint and > > it's almost done now (running at 177,2kB/s now). But I haven't found > > out how I can resume a download with Mozilla. > > Now I'm really lost! > The download worked until just 1 second was left. Then it stopped, timed > out and showed: > > > MandrakeLinux-9.iso: ETA: 0.01 650,37/650,49 177,21 Could not read > reply from control connection -- timed out > get MandrakeLinuxiso: could not retrieve remote file. > > > The same output I received from the servers last night. > This happened with ncftp, ftp, Mozilla, on 2 different machines, both > with sufficient space on the target partition and on the tmp partition. > Nothing has changed with my internet connection and I never had problems > with downloads before. Last large download was RC1 when I started all 3 > downloads at the same time using ncftp. > > Now I made another attempt with Mozilla at ftp.surnet.nl and it timed > out at 230MB and 40 minutes to go. Not knowing how to resume a download > I give up. > > Worst thing is: Now I wasted 2.8GB of my monthly limit of 5GB and > can't get RC2 anymore via download because I need the remaining 2GB for > other things. So if Final comes out in September I'll have to wait until > October... :(( You can fix the iso's with rsynch without downloading all of them again. Instructions here: http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
*** Greg Meyer Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:18:31 -0400 : > You can fix the iso's with rsynch without downloading all of them > again. Instructions here: > > http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html Thanks, but I found a nice person who will send the CDs tomorrow. But I'll keep all good advices of this thread for future reference, thank you. wobo -- "... and anyway, html can't carry a virus." (Aug 2001, Usenet) --- GnuPG Public Key on http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 10 September 2003 09:55, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: You need to get familiar with rsync. Navigate to the directory with the partial downloads and run this from the command line: rsync -Pv --stats --progress ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD* This should also help with your limited bandwidth when final comes out. Just rename the local .iso files to match the final release file names and run the same command. It should only download the differences between the files--giving you a shiney updated .iso at a fraction of the time. I don't know how much of a bandwidth savings it will actually give you so you may want to keep an eye on it. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brant, I can see how this would work for directories but are you saying that rsync would actually go into the iso files to match them and then partially download? That's exactly what I'm saying. :-) I'd think you'd need to mount them with -o loop first (and mounting the local one rw). Alas I don't have the bandwidth left to check that and it's only the first half of the month. If you tried it you would know whether or not it's working in a few seconds. If it's not working just hit "Ctrl+c" to kill it. Good luck, HarM -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 12:05:01 up 3 days, 23:21, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.21, 0.11 ___ "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 18:10, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > If you tried it you would know whether or not it's working in a few > seconds. If it's not working just hit "Ctrl+c" to kill it. I just tried it, renaming the rc1 iso to rc2. Here's the command (I left '--progress' in just to be safe though I gathered -P does the same) I typed: rsync -Pv --stats --progress ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD1.i586.iso Didn't work! Iwas going to moan about it but then read Greg's link & saw the missing space and period at the end. " rsync -Pv --stats --progress ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD1.i586.iso ." does start up. CTRL-C'ed it due to my data limits, pity you don(t get to see an estimate of the total dload. NIce way of dloading this, I didn't know rsync could do that. Thanks for showing, this is going to save a lot of bandwidth in time to come. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 10 September 2003 18:10, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: If you tried it you would know whether or not it's working in a few seconds. If it's not working just hit "Ctrl+c" to kill it. I just tried it, renaming the rc1 iso to rc2. Here's the command (I left '--progress' in just to be safe though I gathered -P does the same) I typed: rsync -Pv --stats --progress ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD1.i586.iso Didn't work! Iwas going to moan about it but then read Greg's link & saw the missing space and period at the end. " rsync -Pv --stats --progress ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc2-CD1.i586.iso ." does start up. CTRL-C'ed it due to my data limits, pity you don(t get to see an estimate of the total dload. NIce way of dloading this, I didn't know rsync could do that. Thanks for showing, this is going to save a lot of bandwidth in time to come. Good luck, HarM I'm sorry. I must have forgotten the period. That makes it download to the directory in which you are currently working. The -P is the equivalent of --partial --progress according to "man rsync". It keeps partial files it has started to download but for some reason or another has the download interrupted and show you the progress of the sync. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 03:10:00 up 4 days, 14:26, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.46, 0.41 ___ "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 9, 2003 11:52 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Wednesday 10 September 2003 02:56, Tom Brinkman wrote: > >HarM, post the link you posted to the 'other' list ;) > > Here it is: > > http://people.zeelandnet.nl/triade/grounding.html > > have fun:o) You pulled a Charlie! LMAO Looks as though you drive about as well as I would. Boat huh? I suppose if it ain't the size of a super carrier it's a freakin' dingy to you "old salts?" I'll pass, I'm a Red Mountain boy by ancestry and temperament, there's not much call for flotation devices in the desert. > >No damn boat, pretty good size ship! Maybe you could contract > > some dredging as an affiliate venture? > > How about a nice old fashioned tug with a big chimney? > > > -- > > Tom Brinkman > > Good luck, > HarM Peace; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-7mdk 15:14:49 up 1:33, 1 user, load average: 0.33, 0.39, 0.34 Freedom is nothing else but the chance to do better. -- Camus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/YObwG11CaRuZZSIRAuBxAJ9QcCclxaVlZkxTeTDaGx7VbkO6XACfbbgv 5ua75yJm3Br38rgK7qYgQXE= =0ciE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Failed downloads of RC2 (sorry, length)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 10, 2003 02:29 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > *** James Sparenberg Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:31:54 -0700 : > > I've had luck using gftp to restart a download that Moz had > > aborted. when I started the download if found the original and > > asked what I wanted to do with resume as the recommended option. > > Same here! You saved my day! Now I'm trying to kick my own butt > because I already removed the other files. :( > > And of course I'll use Brant's advice to use rsync! > > This was a good learning experience how one gets careless by having > more than sufficient ressources! > > wobo Howdy; Lowest possible bandwidth required methods for staying current. For anyone having bandwidth limitation problems that wants to keep current, there are a few ways to do it. One is the easy way; use urpmi, make your software management sources using the Mandrake-devel tree from whatever server works best for you, and before anything else update urpmi. If there's an update you'll get it, then you can use Tom's; urpmi.update -a -f --wget && urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm - --auto-select -v to get everything at once. Of course this works best logged in at the console as super user with no X running. It's boring, but baby it's a hell of a lot faster, and less problematic, than trying to upgrade GUI apps while you're running them. Alternatively if you have downloaded the ISOs for any recent Mandrake release _don't delete them once you've burned the disks._ When a new release is called all you have to do is rename the ISOs to the new release and rsync will take care of making them actual copies of what the servers hold. This example was saved from my synchronization of Mandrake 9.0 ISOs renamed to 9.2 beta2. Disk 1 shown: [...root]# rsync -avrt --progress --delete ftp.uninett.no::Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso /store/MandrakeISO/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso Welcome to the FTP archive at The University of Oslo This archive is running on a GNU/Linux PC with 1.7 TB of diskspace. Machine and diskspace provided by UiO. Uninett provides the gigabit network connectivity. Please use the alias ftp.uninett.no instead of other, old, aliases or the hosts real DNS-name. receiving file list ... 1 file to consider /store/MandrakeISO/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso 682575872 100% 146.86kB/s1:15:38 wrote 249968 bytes read 620523546 bytes 135407.03 bytes/sec total size is 682575872 speedup is 1.10 The important part is the line that displays how much was actually read and written. All bits in the image have to be read at both ends for comparison, but the actual transfer is just the difference between the two. No need to mount the ISOs loop-back either. Just do it. I'd say 249,968 bytes is far preferable to the entire ISO image of 682,575,872 bytes, wouldn't you? Thought so. :-) Of course for anyone with tons of disk space (me) and/or a broadband connection (also me ;->) there are other alternatives. You can have a local copy of the Mandrake-devel tree and use a hard drive install image to make a boot floppy to "upgrade" or do a complete install. Or you can do the same with a network image and install directly from the mirror or any other server you can access that holds the files needed. If you don't want to use a floppy, or don't have one, you can make a bootable CD by following the instructions on the Cooker TWiki, or add them to lilo as boot options, same "how-To" source: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo and the link to the actual article: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#From_a_Local_Mirror There are links from there to other tutorials including, Greg Meyer's how-to on rsyncing ISOs. I'm sure one of the gurus will come by and let you know whatever I screwed up in this post. I hope they will anyway, I'm still 2 days behind with stuff I'm *supposed* to be doing. lol Have fun people. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-7mdk 13:40:10 up 13:35, 1 user, load average: 0.41, 0.33, 0.42 New York's got the ways and means; Just won't let you be. -- The Grateful Dead -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/X4YhG11CaRuZZSIRAsRXAKCl0E8vEJmCGARyuEsHpdIzb15+WwCggH8U 5pWVW9SIf/ih5MharZg+kvg= =f6Lf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
