Re: [FairfieldLife] Barbed Wire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 31, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: Yeah, maybe. And maybe the people who think up this kind of idiocy are just plain nuts. I mean, what is the point of putting up a large fence when there is absolutely nowhere to go? What are they afraid of--that the pundits might sneak out and have a wild night at the Rukmapura, perhaps? LIke they wouldn't be noticed there? And this is the group that is bringing world peace--prisoners in a compound surrounded by barbed wire. And to top it all off, they have cameras mounted on poles at the entrance. What's next-- towers with machine guns? Aushwitz, anyone? Sure looks like a fun place to be. How come there's always $$ for projects like this but so little to beautify the campus already in existence? Take a look at the photos for a good idea of how unfriendly and out-of-place this compound looks amidst the cornfields. The sun was really bright so I couldn't get as much detail as Id have liked, but you get the general idea. It's just a blight on the whole area. I wouldn't worry, that looks like Maharishi Dhanur Ved barbed wire to me. No worry, it's in accord with Natural Law and is Unified Field based fencing. It reflects the 'do not touch me I or I will cut thee' aspect of the Unified Field. Time to call Human rights groups? They'd love these picture, although it would be better if you could get some pundits in the picts. I suggest leaving a gold box of gulab jamin by the fence. Barbed wire- that's old- very easy to escape, before they put the towers up- Now razor wire, that's a bit of a problem. Perhaps, when push comes to shove, hire a Mexican- They're quite familiar with passing through fences of all kinds, no problem. Then again, this all sound mucho loco to me!
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vishi, it's like this. You will never accept the truth about your beloved guru, anymore than disciples of MMY can accept that he had multiple sex partners in the late 60's and early 70s. Both groups could be presented with photos, films and comfessionsand it still would not be enough. Devotion is blind. I know. I've been there. Not quite. You were devoted to a guy who at least had the good taste to hit on Mia Farrow, during the period when she was lookin' pretty good for a skinny girl. This guy is spending his life protecting a bad magician with a Bad Afro who likes to feel up little boys' penises. And doncha get the impression that this guy, although he claims to no longer be a Sai Baba disciple, is doing all this because he *misses* having his dick felt up by the fellow he has mistaken for God? Sure seems that way to me. It *IS* interesting in a strange sort of way, however, because reading this guy's stuff may give Off and Nablus and others here a better idea for how *they* sound when they do the same thing w.r.t. Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Vishi, it's like this. You will never accept the truth about your beloved guru, anymore than disciples of MMY can accept that he had multiple sex partners in the late 60's and early 70s. Both groups could be presented with photos, films and comfessionsand it still would not be enough. Devotion is blind. I know. I've been there. Not quite. You were devoted to a guy who at least had the good taste to hit on Mia Farrow, during the period when she was lookin' pretty good for a skinny girl. This guy is spending his life protecting a bad magician with a Bad Afro who likes to feel up little boys' penises. And doncha get the impression that this guy, although he claims to no longer be a Sai Baba disciple, is doing all this because he *misses* having his dick felt up by the fellow he has mistaken for God? Sure seems that way to me. It *IS* interesting in a strange sort of way, however, because reading this guy's stuff may give Off and Nablus and others here a better idea for how *they* sound when they do the same thing w.r.t. Maharishi. TurquoiseB, I wonder if you know how you sound? I never had my dick felt up by Sai Baba. Apparently, not only are your impressions indicative of perversion, they are untrue. Everyone is still waiting for ANY proof that Baba feel's up little boy's penises. Where is the proof? You don't know, do you? I suspect your little boy's penises comment also slithered out of the same gutter your dick comment came from.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vishvarupa108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Vishi, it's like this. You will never accept the truth about your beloved guru, anymore than disciples of MMY can accept that he had multiple sex partners in the late 60's and early 70s. Both groups could be presented with photos, films and comfessionsand it still would not be enough. Devotion is blind. I know. I've been there. Not quite. You were devoted to a guy who at least had the good taste to hit on Mia Farrow, during the period when she was lookin' pretty good for a skinny girl. This guy is spending his life protecting a bad magician with a Bad Afro who likes to feel up little boys' penises. And doncha get the impression that this guy, although he claims to no longer be a Sai Baba disciple, is doing all this because he *misses* having his dick felt up by the fellow he has mistaken for God? Sure seems that way to me. It *IS* interesting in a strange sort of way, however, because reading this guy's stuff may give Off and Nablus and others here a better idea for how *they* sound when they do the same thing w.r.t. Maharishi. TurquoiseB, I wonder if you know how you sound? I never had my dick felt up by Sai Baba. Apparently, not only are your impressions indicative of perversion, they are untrue. Everyone is still waiting for ANY proof that Baba feel's up little boy's penises. Where is the proof? You don't know, do you? I suspect your little boy's penises comment also slithered out of the same gutter your dick comment came from. Gee Joe, I wonder if Rick will feel a need to reprimand Turquoise for the perverted and irresponsible insult. Is it just me or does it seem like all these anti-guru types need anger management therapy and sensitivity training to go with it? Turquoise since you claim to be so smart, please do tell us why three of the adult accusers (Keith Ord, Alaya Rahm and Ullrich Zimmermann) claimed that Sai Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female. You are so smart, you do know about that don't you?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advice Sought, Secular Meditation
Hi Doug, Yes, check out some books by Dr. David R. Hawkins for instance. Thanks - I'll take a look. John - Original Message - From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Advice Sought, Secular Meditation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm new to this list, so I hope the following post is appropriate. It is also somewhat lengthy, for which I apologise - conciseness was never my strong point. But I am in search of a spot of advice, and wondered if anyone here could help... large snip There are, of course, non-mantra based meditations. But those that I have encountered seem based around the breath. And although this would indeed seem universal, what quiet I do find through TM comes when thought of breath has fallen away (as a woodwind musician, I am rarely unaware of, if not actively controlling, my breath). Hmm. I'm not sure there is a question in the above, so much as a seeking of thoughts and opinion. Is the mantra used of importance? If so, why? If not, why?! Do there by any chance exist other non mantra-based, non- religious, 'aimless' meditations? Are my thought processes described above flawed? If so, why and how? Anyways, thanks for reading this far, and any advice would be greatfully received. John Yes, check out some books by Dr. David R. Hawkins for instance. Western enlightened spiritual guy who gives out secular meditation practices. For the longterm non-secular meditator his books and talks can be excellant advanced checking of spiritual experience. An Interesting synthesis in a life, of apex of Western and Eastern experience with meditation, spiritual experience and enlightenment as, secular. Similar to Eastern veneer of 'gurus' from India or Asia yet without the cultural non-secular trip-traps of their shows. In his books there often are short description of productive secular spiritual practice meditation. You might like his books for your experience. Highly spiritual and like a modern-day Emerson. -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vishvarupa108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Vishi, it's like this. You will never accept the truth about your beloved guru, anymore than disciples of MMY can accept that he had multiple sex partners in the late 60's and early 70s. Both groups could be presented with photos, films and comfessionsand it still would not be enough. Devotion is blind. I know. I've been there. Not quite. You were devoted to a guy who at least had the good taste to hit on Mia Farrow, during the period when she was lookin' pretty good for a skinny girl. This guy is spending his life protecting a bad magician with a Bad Afro who likes to feel up little boys' penises. And doncha get the impression that this guy, although he claims to no longer be a Sai Baba disciple, is doing all this because he *misses* having his dick felt up by the fellow he has mistaken for God? Sure seems that way to me. It *IS* interesting in a strange sort of way, however, because reading this guy's stuff may give Off and Nablus and others here a better idea for how *they* sound when they do the same thing w.r.t. Maharishi. TurquoiseB, I wonder if you know how you sound? Well, not knowing the type of sound card and 'turn the printed words on the screen into sound' software you have, no, I have no idea how I sound. How I meant to sound in writing was as somewhat of a jokester hoping to get a rise out of a poster whose obsessions are becoming boring and tedious. In that I think I succeeded. Please try to read the following with an open mind, to see if you can get more of a perspective on how *you* sound to many of us on this forum. I never had my dick felt up by Sai Baba. Apparently, not only are your impressions indicative of perversion, they are untrue. They may well be, in both cases, although my perversions, if I have them, tend to involve women and not little boys. As for whether my impressions are untrue or not, I base the little I know about Sai Baba on what seem to me to be fairly *credible* reports I've seen on the Internet and in the press. By comparison, *you* don't seem to be very credible, for reasons I will explain below. Everyone is still waiting for ANY proof that Baba feel's up little boy's penises. Where is the proof? You seem to have completely *missed* geezerfreak's comment. His impression of you (how *you* sound) is remarkably like mine. That is, there is NO proof that would convince you. If you were in a room with Sai Baba himself and he admitted to having done every- thing he's been accused of, and even dropped trou and *demonstrated* it with a small young boy right in front of your eyes, you would find some way to believe that he had been coerced to do so, or that he was doing some masterly trick to test the faith of his devotees. As far as I can tell, the possibility of proof does not EXIST for you. My impression for why this is true is that you sound like Every Other Cult Apologist I've Ever Met On The Internet. You make a big show of 'protecting Baba,' but that's not true. What you are protecting is *yourself*, and the belief and faith that you've placed in him for many years. It's THAT that you cannot allow yourself to doubt, and that you are 'protecting,' not Sai Baba himself. You don't know, do you? I suspect your little boy's penises comment also slithered out of the same gutter your dick comment came from. As Oscar Wilde (a world-class pervert himself) once said, We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. I have *no problem* owning up to having a gutter mind. Similarly, I have *no problem* owning up to having, in my youth, misplaced my faith and beliefs in a few spiritual teachers who didn't quite live up to the image they tried to project. THAT is the thing that I think you are unable to do. Let's look at the facts, shall we? You arrived on this forum -- a group that on the whole really doesn't give a shit about Sai Baba, except as Just Another Fallen Guru -- and started bombarding us all with your obsessive posts 'defending' and 'protecting' him. This is *clearly* an obsession for you; just *look* at how much you have posted here so far, to an audience that *doesn't give a shit* -- about you, about Sai Baba, and about your need to protect your beliefs and pretend that they were and are well-founded. You, on the other hand, continue to obsess. All evidence I've seen points to you having practiced this obsession for quite some time now, on every forum you can spam your obsession to. If that's *your* perversion, I sincerely hope that it makes you happy, and brings some fulfillment to your life. It's not doin' a whole lot for me. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SAI BABA. To me, he's a silly twit with a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barbed Wire?
or, maybe the pundits are reclusive celebrities, who -like- the idea of barbed wire and cameras; and maybe they see the hordes of American roos as papparazzi How can they be papparazzi when they can't even afford the prerequisite cameras? --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: boo_lives wrote: Somebody should sneak a tape of The Great Escape into the pundits - it's a great movie and might give them some good ideas. or, maybe the pundits are reclusive celebrities, who -like- the idea of barbed wire and cameras; and maybe they see the hordes of American roos as papparazzi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
[FairfieldLife] Conny's response Re: God's Little Clown
From: Conny Larsson [mailto:] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:38 AM To: Rick Archer Subject: Re: FW: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Dear Rick! My answer will come but I have sent it to my friend Robert for correcting my bad english otherwise it will look so dreadfull. I think he will send it to you when he have gone trough it. Otherwise I have no interest at all longer to deal with the Sai Baba matter. He is just a past thing a creep that I had to go through on my way in life. I rather would have liked not to met him at all. Later after my respons whatever they raise in answer is out of no interest. They are mostly prof. that are grumbling about this creep and his devious organisation and would not have any part of it longer. What is said they all can read on the www.exbaba.com There is no need for anything more later on. We shall all have people to sign the Petition tha exbaba.com broadcast! Love and care Rick! Conny
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
Tom T: More from Jean Klein: Transmission of the Flame page 65 first para: ...We have very often repeated that the seeker is the sought. An object is a fraction; it appears in your wholeness, in your globality. When you really come to the understanding that the seeker is the sought, there is a natural giving-up of all energy to find something. It is an instantaneous apperception. I don't say perception, because in perception there is a perceiver and something perceived. An apperception is an instantaneous perceiving of what is perceiving. So it can never be in relation of subject-object, just as an eye can never see its own seeing. ...you will find a glimpse of non-subject-object relationship. This glimpse is seen with your whole intelligence, which is there in the absence of the person, the thinker, the doer. Understanding, being the understanding, is enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
Edg writes snipped: Amness is illusory. A representation. A symbol. An activity of a nervous system that, partially only, it is as close as a map can be to the territory without being the territory. Brahma poses as Brahman and fools everyone, including Himself. Even the purity of amness cannot find purchase on the Absolute which cannot be stained by any conditional. Tom T: A quote from Jean Klein from his book I AM page 85. In an experience there is still an experiencer who is stuck in the pattern of going in and out of states. Global understanding is the sudden awareness that the perceiver of these states is unaffected by them, that they appear in the perceiver. This insight occurs in a flash when all the fragments preventing us from understanding, yet which point towards it, unfold in the uninvolved witness. Awareness is the essential element allowing non-understanding to become understanding. It does not result from accumulation as when we learn something, a language or an instrument, for example. It is instantaneous like a flash of lightning where the various elements preceding it are suddenly seen simultaneously and are re-orchestrated, just as the particles drawn by a magnet fall into a pattern when they become attached to it. This sudden vision can eliminate all previous problems without leaving the slightest shadow of non-understanding. This resorption into total understanding releases all the energies usually molded into set patterns and opens the way towards ultimate truth, oneness. (Tom comments, we could also use Wholeness or Fullness in lieu of Oneness.)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Turquoise since you claim to be so smart, please do tell us why three of the adult accusers (Keith Ord, Alaya Rahm and Ullrich Zimmermann) claimed that Sai Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female. You are so smart, you do know about that don't you? Andy Rymer said that too. Of course, the only way they would know that, if it happened, is if they were feeling or seeing his genitalia. And from there it's not a stretch to believe that he was reciprocating. So far I haven't heard either you or Babafan comment on that. As Baba devotees who are much better informed about him than I or most of the people here, I'm sincerely interested in your interpretation of these goings on. Has Baba ever explained it? You seem to be admitting here that several people have independently observed something about his genitalia, which means you acknowledge that they were in a position to observe it, so we're not arguing that point. I just want to hear your commentary on why Baba provided an opportunity for those observations to occur. Even if I grant you that many of the accusations are false, you have just admitted that some of these activities actually happened. Presumably you see them in a positive light. I'm stating this in various ways in order to make myself as clear as possible and to get you to answer the following request: please share with us your understanding of why Baba engages in these activities, to whatever extent he does.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:19 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Hey Babafan: Rick asked you some very straightforward questions. Your responses to same were utterly lame. *** geezerfreak, you seem to have great difficulty understanding plain english. Is english not your first language or what? Oh, I forgot to mention, there are also a LOT of DUMB peoplein t e world. Convince me you are not one of them by following CONSTITUTIONAL law instead of rambling like a hysterical nutjob who lost his binky. Insulting him doesn't get you off the hook. How about answering my questions? Questions Rick ? I would rather label them as accusations. That Babafan refuses to step down to your level is more than understandable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
Edg writes snipped: Amness is not an experience. The ego is unified when one (ego) has transcended-dissolved into amness, so there's no one to experience anything -- other than our good old faithful Absolute. The Absolute is the only sentience -- amness is to Absolute as dummy is to ventriloquist. Tom T: from Sailor Bob's book by James Braha Energy, or belief in something, doesn't care which way it goes. Just like the current in an electric motor. Turn the switch one way, it goes forward. Turn it the other way, it goes in reverse. Electricity doesn't care. The vitality, the living essence, doesn't care whether you think in dualism, stuck in the mind, or anything else. It just goes where the energy or belief goes. But if you question all your beliefs, you'll find belief is only a reference point. It's not the actuality. A belief can never be the actuality. The actuality is this present moment. Presence Awareness. You can't negate it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Turqoise on boredom
TurqoiseB And, to top it off, you're BORING about it. Are we clear now? How did this version sound? Boring ! And this was a snipped quote from the least read, most quarrelsome and most boring fellow on this forum, in my honest opinion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, conscientiousobjector2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vishvarupa108 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:52 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown In all these years, there have been no complaints from children or parents of children that Sathya Sai Baba is a pedophile who molests children. Not even one single verifiable grievance, complaint, record, file or anything else for that matter. That isn't true. I watched a one-hour documentary, perhaps produced by the BBC, about an American family whose son was sexually molested by Sai Baba from an early age. Andy Rymer admits to having had sexual interaction with SB. And many others. He hasn't been arrested because the Indian police are on the payroll. *** This is a PERFECT example as to how people can be duped by the media. Sorry Rick but Alaya Rahm was EIGHTEEN years old in 1997 when he alleges he was molested around 20 times, according to him using the alias Sam Young in the Divine Downfall interview with Mick Brown. It turns out he only had SEVEN interviews alone. When I first starting researching these facts almost five years ago I was aghast to find out ALL the accusers where ADULT MALES, all except two are white. Isn't it interesting that in all these years we cannot find even ONE child, much less ONE Indian child who is accusing Sai Baba of being abused? All the accusations regarding children are SECOND-HAND stories from Larsson, Bailey, et al.. Combine this with the KNOWN and documentable fact that NOT one person has EVER even TRIED to file charges with the police and it smells of nothing but a racist smear campaign. Even Tony Blair is an alleged 2003 letter to Tony Colman reminded him that alleged victims MUST file charges with Indian police. Now with all the money that Larsson is supposed to have, can you please tell me WHY he has not lifted a finger to see that any of these alleged victims he bellows about file charges like they are suppoed to? Proof: http://www.saipetition.net/letter.htm And maybe since you seem to know Larsson so well, you can ask him since he, like all the other adult males accusers, is in hidig and will not answer questions about his contradictory accusations, WHY he claimed to have received a resignation letter from Hislop in 1973 when the documentation clearly shows Hislop left the TM movement in 1968? In addition to this, Larsson claims in later talks he gave in 1997 and 1998 that he had NEVER heard of Sai Baba until 1978 when he stated he was saved by Sai Baba in Sri Lanka. This also contradicts his statements regarding the alleged 1973 Hislop letter as Larsson claimed MMY told Conny to tell Hislop not to follow Sai Baba in letter to Hislop. We will be PERFECTLY happy to deal with FACTS rather than unproven accusations and generalities. Hello Babafan; keep up the good work ! Here is what Benjamin Creme writes about Sai Baba: Maitreya Sai Baba Sai Baba is a teacher or guru in south India with an enormous following. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps one or two million people from all over the world would claim to be his devotees. These Followers see him as God, the creator of the universe. He is a cosmic avatar. Sai Baba and Maitreya both embody the same energy--what we call the Christ principle, the energy of Love --- Sai Baba at the cosmic level, Maitreya at the planetary level. The relation of Sai Baba to the Christ: The Christ is a planetary avatar, Sai Baba is a cosmic avatar. He is a Spiritual Regent, sent into the world by the Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara, on Shamballa. A regent stands in for the king. Similarly, a Spiritual Regent stands in for God, for the Logos, Whose reflection Sanat Kumara is. Sai Baba embodies the energy of Love at a cosmic level (the Christ embodies this energy at the planetary level) and his work, in part, is to prepare humanity for the work of the Christ. By awakening the love principle in humanity, Sai Baba will prepare people for the Initiatory work of the Christ. As the Hierophant, the Initiator, at the first two planetary initiations, the Christ will lead humanity gradually out of the strictly human kingdom into the Hierarchy, the Kingdom of Souls, or the Kingdom of God. That is his major work in the coming age of Aquarius. These two Great Ones work together in daily contact, complete harmony and shared purpose in the evolution of mankind. For more information, please see: http://www.shareintl.org
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In TM, is the mantra empowered by MMY, or Guru Dev?
On May 31, 2007, at 11:27 PM, BillyG. wrote: TM mantras are given by puja, not by adhikara. Adhikara mantra is a mantra given after the guru observes a student for whatever is needed to understand what needs to be given--but it is always given based on the unique propensity of the student, they are not dispensed via mere puja, the inferior and more haphazard method. Interesting comment and observation..it would seem then that an adhikara mantra would be preferable, yes? That would imply a personal Guru I suppose. Some sort of spiritual friend in any event. By inferior I assume you mean that the puja mantra is not as effective, yes? How about these 'Guru's' that have thousands of disciples, isn't that about the same thing? Probably not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vishvarupa108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Vishi, it's like this. You will never accept the truth about your beloved guru, anymore than disciples of MMY can accept that he had multiple sex partners in the late 60's and early 70s. Both groups could be presented with photos, films and comfessionsand it still would not be enough. Devotion is blind. I know. I've been there. Not quite. You were devoted to a guy who at least had the good taste to hit on Mia Farrow, during the period when she was lookin' pretty good for a skinny girl. This guy is spending his life protecting a bad magician with a Bad Afro who likes to feel up little boys' penises. And doncha get the impression that this guy, although he claims to no longer be a Sai Baba disciple, is doing all this because he *misses* having his dick felt up by the fellow he has mistaken for God? Sure seems that way to me. It *IS* interesting in a strange sort of way, however, because reading this guy's stuff may give Off and Nablus and others here a better idea for how *they* sound when they do the same thing w.r.t. Maharishi. TurquoiseB, I wonder if you know how you sound? I never had my dick felt up by Sai Baba. Apparently, not only are your impressions indicative of perversion, they are untrue. Everyone is still waiting for ANY proof that Baba feel's up little boy's penises. Where is the proof? You don't know, do you? I suspect your little boy's penises comment also slithered out of the same gutter your dick comment came from. Or perhaps TurquoiseB is the only person on this formum who knows from firsthand experience what that activity is all about...
[FairfieldLife] Conny's response Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Conny Larsson [mailto:] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:38 AM To: Rick Archer Subject: Re: FW: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Dear Rick! My answer will come but I have sent it to my friend Robert for correcting my bad english otherwise it will look so dreadfull. I think he will send it to you when he have gone trough it. Otherwise I have no interest at all longer to deal with the Sai Baba matter. He is just a past thing a creep that I had to go through on my way in life. I rather would have liked not to met him at all. Later after my respons whatever they raise in answer is out of no interest. They are mostly prof. that are grumbling about this creep and his devious organisation and would not have any part of it longer. What is said they all can read on the www.exbaba.com There is no need for anything more later on. We shall all have people to sign the Petition tha exbaba.com broadcast! Love and care Rick! Conny What a pathetic joke this Conny is; first he writes books full of venom about people he has met. When questions is raised all he says is he is just a past thing, a creep...blabla. This fellow has, and probably never had, any dignity. Saints like Maharishi and Sai Baba are probably just happy not having to see this swedish lowwlife anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
Tom, I am a bit iffy on what you're trying to say in your three consecutive posts. Are you supporting my post or finding error or I don't find much to argue with in the quotes you give, but then, I don't have much resonance with the vocabulary, so trying to see what your concepts are is hard for me. Can you take a second go at my post and try to underline what you mean to communicate? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edg writes snipped: Amness is not an experience. The ego is unified when one (ego) has transcended-dissolved into amness, so there's no one to experience anything -- other than our good old faithful Absolute. The Absolute is the only sentience -- amness is to Absolute as dummy is to ventriloquist. Tom T: from Sailor Bob's book by James Braha Energy, or belief in something, doesn't care which way it goes. Just like the current in an electric motor. Turn the switch one way, it goes forward. Turn it the other way, it goes in reverse. Electricity doesn't care. The vitality, the living essence, doesn't care whether you think in dualism, stuck in the mind, or anything else. It just goes where the energy or belief goes. But if you question all your beliefs, you'll find belief is only a reference point. It's not the actuality. A belief can never be the actuality. The actuality is this present moment. Presence Awareness. You can't negate it. Edg writes snipped: Amness is illusory. A representation. A symbol. An activity of a nervous system that, partially only, it is as close as a map can be to the territory without being the territory. Brahma poses as Brahman and fools everyone, including Himself. Even the purity of amness cannot find purchase on the Absolute which cannot be stained by any conditional. Tom T: A quote from Jean Klein from his book I AM page 85. In an experience there is still an experiencer who is stuck in the pattern of going in and out of states. Global understanding is the sudden awareness that the perceiver of these states is unaffected by them, that they appear in the perceiver. This insight occurs in a flash when all the fragments preventing us from understanding, yet which point towards it, unfold in the uninvolved witness. Awareness is the essential element allowing non-understanding to become understanding. It does not result from accumulation as when we learn something, a language or an instrument, for example. It is instantaneous like a flash of lightning where the various elements preceding it are suddenly seen simultaneously and are re-orchestrated, just as the particles drawn by a magnet fall into a pattern when they become attached to it. This sudden vision can eliminate all previous problems without leaving the slightest shadow of non-understanding. This resorption into total understanding releases all the energies usually molded into set patterns and opens the way towards ultimate truth, oneness. (Tom comments, we could also use Wholeness or Fullness in lieu of Oneness.) Tom T: More from Jean Klein: Transmission of the Flame page 65 first para: ...We have very often repeated that the seeker is the sought. An object is a fraction; it appears in your wholeness, in your globality. When you really come to the understanding that the seeker is the sought, there is a natural giving-up of all energy to find something. It is an instantaneous apperception. I don't say perception, because in perception there is a perceiver and something perceived. An apperception is an instantaneous perceiving of what is perceiving. So it can never be in relation of subject-object, just as an eye can never see its own seeing. ...you will find a glimpse of non-subject-object relationship. This glimpse is seen with your whole intelligence, which is there in the absence of the person, the thinker, the doer. Understanding, being the understanding, is enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] Conny's response Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: Conny Larsson [mailto:] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:38 AM To: Rick Archer Subject: Re: FW: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Dear Rick! My answer will come but I have sent it to my friend Robert for correcting my bad english otherwise it will look so dreadfull. I think he will send it to you when he have gone trough it. Otherwise I have no interest at all longer to deal with the Sai Baba matter. He is just a past thing a creep that I had to go through on my way in life. I rather would have liked not to met him at all. Later after my respons whatever they raise in answer is out of no interest. They are mostly prof. that are grumbling about this creep and his devious organisation and would not have any part of it longer. What is said they all can read on the www.exbaba.com There is no need for anything more later on. We shall all have people to sign the Petition tha exbaba.com broadcast! Love and care Rick! Conny What a pathetic joke this Conny is; first he writes books full of venom about people he has met. When questions is raised all he says is he is just a past thing, a creep...blabla. This fellow has, and probably never had, any dignity. Saints like Maharishi and Sai Baba are probably just happy not having to see this swedish lowwlife anymore. I've read Connie's book and it's not full of venom. He writes honestly and thoughtfully about his spiritual quest, which includes his difficult to understand experiences as an insider with Sai Baba. What makes the book worthwhile in my opinion is the ending which describes his therapy work in which he finally addresses his own sexual abuse as a child at the hands of an adult male and how that experience set him up to fall under the sway of untrustworthy and controlling guru-father figures. Having been a part of the spiritual scene my whole life, I've met many many individuals who feel a little damaged and overly surrendered to spiritual authority figures. his book would be useful to them I think. It's not hard to understand someone getting sick of dealing with Sai Baba devotees - what's the point in talking with them? it's the same as trying to talk physics with a fundamentalist who has to believe that the earth was created in 6 days 6,000 yrs ago, no amount of facts will change their mind.
[FairfieldLife] re:jean klein and Ron Paul
I really enjoyed reading the stuff from Jean Klein. Thanks for posting that. On a more mundane note: I have followed Ron PAul's political life thru his brother Wayne Paul who has been my accountant for the past 12 or 13 years. I would love to see him get elected. There is a big groundswell moving for him. If you are not familiar with him know this: the establishment of republicans hate him because he is scary to them. He would upset the power structure and overturn the applecart. If he becomes more prominent there could be an attempt to assassinate him. He would be great for America. Check him out if you have not as yet at www.ronpaul2008.com May be in FF in mid to late july. I will stop by the wed. evening group if it is still ongoing steve tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis Tom T: A quote from Jean Klein from his book I AM page 85. In an experience there is still an experiencer who is stuck in the pattern of going in and out of states. Global understanding is the sudden awareness that the perceiver of these states is unaffected by them, that they appear in the perceiver. This insight occurs in a flash when all the fragments preventing us from understanding, yet which point towards it, unfold in the uninvolved witness. Awareness is the essential element allowing non-understanding to become understanding. It does not result from accumulation as when we learn something, a language or an instrument, for example. It is instantaneous like a flash of lightning where the various elements preceding it are suddenly seen simultaneously and are re-orchestrated, just as the particles drawn by a magnet fall into a pattern when they become attached to it. This sudden vision can eliminate all previous problems without leaving the slightest shadow of non-understanding. This resorption into total understanding releases all the energies usually molded into set patterns and opens the way towards ultimate truth, oneness. (Tom comments, we could also use Wholeness or Fullness in lieu of Oneness.) There are several loosely connected themes in this thread, including the above -- and other related posts in the past, revolving around the issues, questions and insights about: How do we know what is true / valid / predictable? What is truth (and is this even a meaningful and useful concept)? How do we know anything? What is valid knowdge? What is the relation of beliefs to knowledge, truth and the way one perceives the world and universe? What if any are the limits of knowledge? What is right or ethical action? What is a valid foundation for ethics? Modern (academic) philosophy adds some structure and (untied) theads to the discussion. Amongst many additional themes, here is an interesting one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mysterianism New Mysterianism is a philosophy proposing that certain problems will never be explained or at the least cannot be explained by the human mind at its current evolutionary stage. The problem most often referred to is the hard problem of consciousness; i.e. how to explain sentience and qualia and their interaction with consciousness. New Mysterianism is often characterized as a presupposition that some problems cannot be solved. Critics of this view argue that it is arrogant to assume that a problem cannot be solved just because we haven't solved it yet. On the other hand, New Mysterians would say that it's just as absurd to assume that every problem can be solved. Crucially, New Mysterians would argue that they did not start with any supposition as to the solvability of the question, and instead reached their conclusion through logical reasoning. Owen Flanagan noted in his 1991 book Science of the Mind that some modern thinkers have suggested that consciousness may never be completely explained. The old mysterians are thinkers throughout history who have put forward a similar position. They include Leibniz, Dr. Johnson, and Thomas Huxley. Huxley wrote, How it is that anything so remarkable as a state of consciousness comes about as a result of irritating nervous tissue, is just as unaccountable as the appearance of the Djinn, when Aladdin rubbed his lamp. [6, p. 229, quote] Noam Chomsky distinguishes between problems, which seem solvable, at least in principle, through scientific methods, and mysteries, which do not, even in principle. He notes that the cognitive capabilities of all organisms are limited by biology, e.g. a mouse will never speak like a human. In the same way, certain problems may be beyond our understanding. The term New Mysterianism has been extended by some writers to encompass the wider philosophical position that humans do not have the intellectual ability to solve many hard problems, not just the problem of consciousness, at a scientific level. This position is also known as Anti-Constructive Naturalism. For example, in the mind-body problem, emergent materialism claims that humans are not smart enough to determine the relationship between mind and matter. [4] Strong agnosticism is a religious application of this position.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:13 AM, new.morning wrote: There are several loosely connected themes in this thread, including the above -- and other related posts in the past, revolving around the issues, questions and insights about: How do we know what is true / valid / predictable? What is truth (and is this even a meaningful and useful concept)? How do we know anything? What is valid knowdge? What is the relation of beliefs to knowledge, truth and the way one perceives the world and universe? What if any are the limits of knowledge? What is right or ethical action? What is a valid foundation for ethics? According to Buddhist metaphysics, one would need a high degree of awakening in order to know the truth, i.e. exemplify the dharmakaya, the body of truth. This would mean one would need to be established in unimpeded omniscience and have resolved emotional and mental obscurations completely. These questions are exhaustively detailed in madhyamika.
[FairfieldLife] secret of happy relationships - misery!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6711071.stm Misery: the secret to happiness The key to a happy relationship could be accepting that some miserable times are unavoidable, experts say. Therapists from California State University and Virginia Tech University say accepting these problems is better than striving for perfection. And they blame cultural fairytales and modern love stories for perpetuating the myth that enjoying a perfect relationship is possible. The report was published in the Journal of Marital and Family Therapy. The pursuit of relationship nirvana can be potentially damaging Jan Parker The authors, Dr Diane Gehart and Dr Eric McCollum say it is a myth that, with enough effort we can achieve a state without suffering. And they say healthcare professionals may not be helping the situation. The field of mental health perpetuates this myth with the very concept of mental health, which implies a state without suffering, they say. Potentially damaging But this belief can eventually cause people to believe that with enough effort they can eliminate suffering. And experts say this is an unrealistic aim in relationships, and striving to achieve it can lead people to feel they have failed. Jan Parker of the Association of Family Therapy said: The authors are right to point out that the pursuit of relationship nirvana can be potentially damaging. She said it was important to explore what people mean by a happy and healthy relationship, because nobody's life or relationship can be in a permanent state of happiness - there will always be more difficult times. She said couples need to build strengths, such as understanding, in their relationships to help them cope in these hard times and appreciate the good times. Mrs Nadine Field, a consultant psychologist, said it was a fantasy that any relationship could be perfect and that striving for such an impossible state could lead to bitter disappointment. She said this disappointment could then cause people to focus on the negative aspects of a relationship, and lead to more disappointment and resentment. She said: People need to try to understand their partners through communication, rather than demanding perfection of them. Meditation The authors recommend using mindfulness, a Buddhist meditation technique, to help cope with family suffering. The technique requires individuals to focus on their present thoughts and actions, and is already used by some psychiatrists in the UK. They say although Buddhism is considered a major religion, the technique is taken from Buddhist psychology which could be useful aside from Buddhism's spiritual beliefs and practices. The authors say family therapists can integrate the principles into their work to help patients change the way they relate to the forms of suffering that can occur in intimate relationships, such as abuse, divorce, rejection, and loss. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/6711071.stm Published: 2007/06/01 10:51:19 GMT © BBC MMVII
[FairfieldLife] Re: In TM, is the mantra empowered by MMY, or Guru Dev?
One is by puja and the other is by adhikara. Billy wrote: Interesting comment and observation... Billy - There are no adhikara or puja bija mantras in Sri Vidya, only the maha-mantra containing the sixteen syllables, upon which TM practice is based, which are all enumerated in the Tripura Upanaishad. The TM bija mantras all come from Swami Brahmanand, a guru and representative of the Shankaracharya Order, which is based in Sringeri, the home of the Saraswati Dasanamis. There is no higher knowedge than Sri Vidya. All the Shankaracharya Dasanamis worship Tripurasundari, the source of all knowledge of the bija mantras used in Sri Vidya. Shankara placed the Sri Chakra, with the bija mantras inscribed thereon, in all the four seats of learning. He then wisely composed the Soundaryalahari for our understanding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: In TM, is the mantra empowered by MMY, or Guru Dev?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Billy - There are no adhikara or puja bija mantras in Sri Vidya, only the maha-mantra containing the sixteen syllables, upon which TM practice is based, which are all enumerated in the Tripura Upanaishad. How about this one: OM-Ma-mo-bha-ga-ba-te-ba-su-de-ba-ya. 12 letters, which one is 16? The TM bija mantras all come from Swami Brahmanand, a guru and representative of the Shankaracharya Order, which is based in Sringeri, the home of the Saraswati Dasanamis. There is no higher knowedge than Sri Vidya. Sri Vidya? See below All the Shankaracharya Dasanamis worship Tripurasundari, the source of all knowledge of the bija mantras used in Sri Vidya. Shankara placed the Sri Chakra, with the bija mantras inscribed thereon, in all the four seats of learning. He then wisely composed the Soundaryalahari for our understanding. What is the Sri Chakra and where can I see it?
[FairfieldLife] MS Outlook Help
Hello Group I have a question re: MS Outlook for which I cannot find an answer so I am hoping in this group of obviously avid computer users someone has the solution. Outlook (2003) will not allow me to send email with files of 2mb and over. I have looked everywhere for some way to increase the size of the files I send, many of which are bigger than 2mb. I am not on an exchange server, I work from a home office, my cable provider, Comcast, told me they have no limit and that it is an Outlook issue. Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? Thank you! Kenny H.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on illegal immigrants
jstein wrote: We have Bush in office today, rather than Gore, because of rampant dishonesty; we're losing our young men and women in Iraq, and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, because of rampant dishonesty, because that dishonesty was *tolerated*, because too many people didn't care about it. These are all deceptions - you should refrain from posting your personal political propaganda. This is just your liberal opinion, nothing more, and your statements are not based on facts, at any rate. President Bush won the election fair and square based on our form of representative government. Over 50% of voting Americans re-elected Bush AFTER the Iraq invasion. Our armed forces are not rampantly dishonest - over 140,000 of our brave troops believe in supporting their elected government. Bush never killed anyone. Rick Archer wrote: 13) Discussions of politics that affect personal growth and world consciousness are allowed. However, be kind and respectful of others' viewpoints. Come with a humble heart, an open mind, and the desire to contribute constructively to everyone's broader awareness. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/140425
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Valerie Flame Name Game
Bharat2 wrote: Your team of profligate liars and racketeers lost in '06 and continues to lose. My team? Stop the lying. Bush won both elections fair and square based on our representative form of goverment which vote was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. Your team lost the election, that's the concensus opinion. Face it, you're the loser - you voted for Gore and Kerry. You drank the kool-aid and bought Windows Vista Home Edition and an Intel processor and then whinned about it. You pay double FICA taxes. Question: So, how, exactly, does a 'covert' CIA spy get her name listed in 'Who's Who' and get to attend Democratic fundraisers while her husband works for the Kerry campaign? Another question: If Val was a covert spy, why wasn't anyone charged with leaking her name? You seem to be interested in conspiracy theories, so here's an added bonus question: What about Tim McVeigh's al Qaeda connections? What's up with that?
RE: [FairfieldLife] re:jean klein and Ron Paul
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of thedoc108 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] re:jean klein and Ron Paul May be in FF in mid to late july. I will stop by the wed. evening group if it is still ongoing steve It is. Tom is moving upstairs, so it'll be there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MS Outlook Help
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Group I have a question re: MS Outlook for which I cannot find an answer so I am hoping in this group of obviously avid computer users someone has the solution. Outlook (2003) will not allow me to send email with files of 2mb and over. I have looked everywhere for some way to increase the size of the files I send, many of which are bigger than 2mb. I am not on an exchange server, I work from a home office, my cable provider, Comcast, told me they have no limit and that it is an Outlook issue. Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? I have no idea how to make Outlook handle large files. However, I do know there are various online services that act as an intermediary for sending large files. You can find them by doing a Google search on 'sending large files': http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=sending+large+files
[FairfieldLife] Re: MS Outlook Help
Alex thanks. I know I can do that, and I can use my business account email at my godaddy account, too, from which I can send large files. It is more for the convenience of having all my bus contacts in files and addresses and sucn all in one place-in Outlook. Ken -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H kennyhassman@ wrote: Hello Group I have a question re: MS Outlook for which I cannot find an answer so I am hoping in this group of obviously avid computer users someone has the solution. Outlook (2003) will not allow me to send email with files of 2mb and over. I have looked everywhere for some way to increase the size of the files I send, many of which are bigger than 2mb. I am not on an exchange server, I work from a home office, my cable provider, Comcast, told me they have no limit and that it is an Outlook issue. Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? I have no idea how to make Outlook handle large files. However, I do know there are various online services that act as an intermediary for sending large files. You can find them by doing a Google search on 'sending large files': http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=sending+large+files
[FairfieldLife] Re: MS Outlook Help
Kenny wrote: Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? Ken - You can increase the storage capacity of your data file by adjusting the settings and policies enforced by your ISP. Also, you can get 'WinZip Companion' which makes it easy for users of Microsoft Outlook to zip and encrypt attachments when sending large files. http://www.winzip.com/index.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] MS Outlook Help
On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Kenny H wrote: Hello Group I have a question re: MS Outlook for which I cannot find an answer so I am hoping in this group of obviously avid computer users someone has the solution. Outlook (2003) will not allow me to send email with files of 2mb and over. I have looked everywhere for some way to increase the size of the files I send, many of which are bigger than 2mb. I am not on an exchange server, I work from a home office, my cable provider, Comcast, told me they have no limit and that it is an Outlook issue. Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? Thank you! http://searchexchange.techtarget.com/tip/ 0,289483,sid43_gci1241406,00.html http://www.outdisk.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: In TM, is the mantra empowered by MMY, or Guru Dev?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Billy wrote: What is the Sri Chakra and where can I see it? You can see the Sri Chakra at Sringeri, at Dwarka, at Puri, and at Jyotir Matha. Shankara placed them there. All the members of the Shankara Order worship the Sri Vidya. Swami Brahmananda had a Sri Chakra encrusted with rubies which he kept with him for puja worship. He probably read the Tripura Upanishad on a daily basis. Shankara also composed the Soundaryalahari, with the sixteen bija mantra contained therein. You can also read the Tripura Upanishad - it contains the explanation of the sixteen bija mantras of Sri Vidya. You can also read the commentary by Bhaskarayanatha. You have been given the bija mantra by Swami Bramanand Saraswati, now you are already in the enlightened state - all you have to do is *isolate* the Purusha using Yoga, and then burn up your accumulated karma using tapas. In your case, this might take several lifetimes of devotion to a personal God, practicing Bhakti and Karma Yoga, or, you could use tantric techniques and become a jivanmukti in this very lifetime - it's up to you, Billy. This could be your year of living dangerously. Got it...but, surely there are pictures, yes? How about that 16 syllable mantra, can you spell it out here?
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, conscientiousobjector2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:19 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Hey Babafan: Rick asked you some very straightforward questions. Your responses to same were utterly lame. *** geezerfreak, you seem to have great difficulty understanding plain english. Is english not your first language or what? Oh, I forgot to mention, there are also a LOT of DUMB peoplein t e world. Convince me you are not one of them by following CONSTITUTIONAL law instead of rambling like a hysterical nutjob who lost his binky. Insulting him doesn't get you off the hook. How about answering my questions? ** Funny that you say NOTHING when he continuously insults others (and FIRST at that), Rick. I answered the questions. I can't help it if you are too illiterate to get it. This is EXACTLY why you bozos should quit trying to play law enforcement and sticK to your mantras or whatever it is you do do well. Get it through your head: NO Indian children or parents have filed complaints about being molested with police. This means the ADULT WHITE MALES making complaints are LIARS. NOW, do I need to draw you a map? Second-hand stories are NOT EVIDENCE. Do you think prople should be able to tell second-hand tales about YOUR sexual escapades and we should all believe them? Now grow up and get real. The government of India has PUBLICLY stated that the accusations are concocted and malicious and there IS enough DOCUMENTATION to prove that in court. Now deal with it. And quit acting like a bunch of fascists who feel laws don't apply to them. Babafanyou appear to be experiancing some severe roughness of awareness. Feel the body. (Your own, not some child please.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: In TM, is the mantra empowered by MMY, or Guru Dev?
Billy wrote: What is the Sri Chakra and where can I see it? You can see the Sri Chakra at Sringeri, at Dwarka, at Puri, and at Jyotir Matha. Shankara placed them there. All the members of the Shankara Order worship the Sri Vidya. Swami Brahmananda had a Sri Chakra encrusted with rubies which he kept with him for puja worship. He probably read the Tripura Upanishad on a daily basis. Shankara also composed the Soundaryalahari, with the sixteen bija mantra contained therein. You can also read the Tripura Upanishad - it contains the explanation of the sixteen bija mantras of Sri Vidya. You can also read the commentary by Bhaskarayanatha. You have been given the bija mantra by Swami Bramanand Saraswati, now you are already in the enlightened state - all you have to do is *isolate* the Purusha using Yoga, and then burn up your accumulated karma using tapas. In your case, this might take several lifetimes of devotion to a personal God, practicing Bhakti and Karma Yoga, or, you could use tantric techniques and become a jivanmukti in this very lifetime - it's up to you, Billy. This could be your year of living dangerously.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
I try to catch a little shut eye and miss a discussion about guru's genitals! Damn I gotta put a guru genital alert on my computer, perhaps Turq or Vaj can help me figure out how to do this. I just want a bell to ring whenever certain topics come up here! I think it is entirely possible for Sai to be a hermaphrodite. It is a lot more reasonable to believe this than that he can supernaturally switch genitals. Given his interest in magic tricks it is also possible that he pulls a little tucking maneuver... This is such a great area to speculate on! But ambiguous genitalia is a lot more common that magically transforming lingams into yonis, nuff said. Of course Rick's point that under this discussion is a definite admission that Sai's whatever was out for discussion. The power balance of master disciple is too skewed for this to be cool in my book. I notice a certain lack of compassion in the Sai defenders for people who may have been molested. The whole can you prove it defense is also true about the abuse. We don't have evidence on either side about the issue. If it did happen the people abused deserve a drop of human compassion, yes? no? Attacking the accusers without direct knowledge seems a little callus. We are all against sex abuse, yes? no? As far as I am concerned Sai's credibility as a special guy doesn't need to be undermined by his sexual activity since I will never know the truth about that. It is plainly undermined by his use of tricks from a 10 year old's Christmas present Golly Gee I'm a Magician, Tricks to Amaze Your Family and Friends Jumbo Fun Set. The guy is doing magic tricks (badly) right in front of our eyes and passing them off as evidence that he has special powers. This is bullshit artistry at its worst. Anyone who sees his tricks and still chooses to believe that he being straightforward and sincere about anything is choosing the dumbass path in life. We all make our choices in life don't we? There may be people on earth who are different in a profound way from me, but it sure helps the odds of finding them if we can scratch obvious charlatans from the list. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Turquoise since you claim to be so smart, please do tell us why three of the adult accusers (Keith Ord, Alaya Rahm and Ullrich Zimmermann) claimed that Sai Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female. You are so smart, you do know about that don't you? Andy Rymer said that too. Of course, the only way they would know that, if it happened, is if they were feeling or seeing his genitalia. And from there it's not a stretch to believe that he was reciprocating. So far I haven't heard either you or Babafan comment on that. As Baba devotees who are much better informed about him than I or most of the people here, I'm sincerely interested in your interpretation of these goings on. Has Baba ever explained it? You seem to be admitting here that several people have independently observed something about his genitalia, which means you acknowledge that they were in a position to observe it, so we're not arguing that point. I just want to hear your commentary on why Baba provided an opportunity for those observations to occur. Even if I grant you that many of the accusations are false, you have just admitted that some of these activities actually happened. Presumably you see them in a positive light. I'm stating this in various ways in order to make myself as clear as possible and to get you to answer the following request: please share with us your understanding of why Baba engages in these activities, to whatever extent he does.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Vishi, it's like this. You will never accept the truth about your beloved guru, anymore than disciples of MMY can accept that he had multiple sex partners in the late 60's and early 70s. Both groups could be presented with photos, films and comfessionsand it still would not be enough. Devotion is blind. I know. I've been there. Not quite. You were devoted to a guy who at least had the good taste to hit on Mia Farrow, during the period when she was lookin' pretty good for a skinny girl. This guy is spending his life protecting a bad magician with a Bad Afro who likes to feel up little boys' penises. And doncha get the impression that this guy, although he claims to no longer be a Sai Baba disciple, is doing all this because he *misses* having his dick felt up by the fellow he has mistaken for God? Sure seems that way to me. It *IS* interesting in a strange sort of way, however, because reading this guy's stuff may give Off and Nablus and others here a better idea for how *they* sound when they do the same thing w.r.t. Maharishi. Haw! Thanks for cutting through to the heart of the matter Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:13 AM, new.morning wrote: There are several loosely connected themes in this thread, including the above -- and other related posts in the past, revolving around the issues, questions and insights about: How do we know what is true / valid / predictable? What is truth (and is this even a meaningful and useful concept)? How do we know anything? What is valid knowdge? What is the relation of beliefs to knowledge, truth and the way one perceives the world and universe? What if any are the limits of knowledge? What is right or ethical action? What is a valid foundation for ethics? According to Buddhist metaphysics, one would need a high degree of awakening in order to know the truth, i.e. exemplify the dharmakaya, the body of truth. This would mean one would need to be established in unimpeded omniscience and have resolved emotional and mental obscurations completely. These questions are exhaustively detailed in madhyamika. Thanks. But is there a Cliff Notes version? Which makes me think there should be a first law of philosophy: A measure of the profoundness of an insight is the degree of its explantion's conciseness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
Get it through your head: NO Indian children or parents have filed complaints about being molested with police. The chldren, parents and police were all molested together? Or were the police just watching? This means the ADULT WHITE MALES making complaints are LIARS. NOW, do I need to draw you a map? Second-hand stories are NOT EVIDENCE. Do you think prople should be able to tell second-hand tales about YOUR sexual escapades and we should all believe them? You statement suggests that you may believe all second hand accounts are categorically false. If so, that seems a bit harsh and unproductive. While they certainly are not all categorically true, some may be true, others not, some partly. The degree of credibility of first hand party is a key factor in evaluating such.
[FairfieldLife] (FFL, meet Lisa and Joe) Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Babafanyou appear to be experiancing some severe roughness of awareness. Feel the body. (Your own, not some child please.) Geez, you might have more success if you refer to these two by their real names, Lisa and Joe. A quick Google search on their usernames reveals that these two are pretty much professional Sai Baba Apologists, and have made a name for themselves (albeit a bad one) on many Yahoo and Google groups. Here's a page on them set up by one of the messengers they tried to shoot: http://www.saibabaexpose.com/vishvarupa.htm Their M.O. seems to be to troll Yahoo groups and search them for the name of one of their victims, such as Conny Larsson, or of Sai Baba himself. Then they descend upon the group and start spamming it with defenses of the poor, wronged guru. Strangely, these defenses always seem to involve demonizing anyone who has ever said anything even remotely derogatory about Sai Baba, or who reacts negatively to their act. They're trolls. They don't communicate, they pontif- icate. My advice is to ignore them. The only curiosity they hold for me is whether Lisa had *her* genitalia felt up by the Babaster. :-) Nice find.
[FairfieldLife] (FFL, meet Lisa and Joe) Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Babafanyou appear to be experiancing some severe roughness of awareness. Feel the body. (Your own, not some child please.) Geez, you might have more success if you refer to these two by their real names, Lisa and Joe. A quick Google search on their usernames reveals that these two are pretty much professional Sai Baba Apologists, and have made a name for themselves (albeit a bad one) on many Yahoo and Google groups. Here's a page on them set up by one of the messengers they tried to shoot: http://www.saibabaexpose.com/vishvarupa.htm Their M.O. seems to be to troll Yahoo groups and search them for the name of one of their victims, such as Conny Larsson, or of Sai Baba himself. Then they descend upon the group and start spamming it with defenses of the poor, wronged guru. Strangely, these defenses always seem to involve demonizing anyone who has ever said anything even remotely derogatory about Sai Baba, or who reacts negatively to their act. They're trolls. They don't communicate, they pontif- icate. My advice is to ignore them. The only curiosity they hold for me is whether Lisa had *her* genitalia felt up by the Babaster. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
vishvarupa wrote: Where is the proof? I've been requesting this information for years, to no avail. All I've seen are emails posted here, but no actual evidence, only accusations by disgruntled former members claiming TMO status. From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. But, I wouldn't believe a single word from Alex Mardas or Conny Larsson. It wouldn't upset me to find out about any of these alleged activities; Trungpa was well known for having relations with students; Osel Tenzin died of AIDS, Richard Baker of the San Francisco Zen Centrer once left a female student's shoes outside the door, Swami Rama was found guilty in a court after he was already dead, the Krishnamurti, the Sogyal and the Kalu have both been reported to have had girlfriends, Adi Da is probably a genuine profligate, and the Zen Master Rama, accdording to Uncle Tantra, used to have relations with all of his female students. Reports of inappropriate activities are rampant in ISKCON and ISDL. So what? But obviously nobody here has any evidence, but some like to drink the kool-aid anyway. They've been in and out of cults for most of their adult life. What I can't understand is why some people continued to work for them for years AFTER they found out about them. In one case, a Barry actually put up posters for two of these guys and a Peter actually passed out leaflets, promising enlightenment in 5-7 years. Another, Bharat2, wants me to get into 'Power Touch Yoga', taught by a former Indian pilot and left-handed basket weaver, and Vaj the Nath is trying to get me to believe in a 'Celestial Buddha' who lived over a million years ago on a planet called Meru. Now a Ron and a Billy are extolling a 'Swami G' out in Los Angeles. I wonder what Swami G. is up to? Is he anything like 'Swami Boo' in that movie 'The Guru with Heather Graham? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
On Jun 1, 2007, at 1:07 PM, new.morning wrote: These questions are exhaustively detailed in madhyamika. Thanks. But is there a Cliff Notes version? Which makes me think there should be a first law of philosophy: A measure of the profoundness of an insight is the degree of its explantion's conciseness. The Berzin archives is a good start, well interlinked and often concise and to the point. Here are some bits you might enjoy: Introductory Survey of Objects of Cognition: Gelug Presentation http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/sutra/ level5_analysis_mind_reality/cognition_theory/level_a_basics/ intro_survey_objects_cognition_gelug.html Apprehension of Validly Knowable Phenomena http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/sutra/ level5_analysis_mind_reality/cognition_theory/level_a_basics/ apprehension.html Establishing the Existence of Validly Knowable Phenomena http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/sutra/ level5_analysis_mind_reality/voidness/establishing_existence.html Ridding Oneself of the Two Sets of Obscurations in Sutra and Highest Tantra According to Nyingma and Sakya http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/tantra/ level3_intermediate_theory/eliminating_2_sets_obscurations.html The Qualities of a Buddha http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/sutra/level2_lamrim/ initial_scope/safe_direction/qualities_buddha_omniscient_deep_aw.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. This is directly opposite of every published account I have read by the principles involved. Where did you read this? \ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vishvarupa wrote: Where is the proof? I've been requesting this information for years, to no avail. All I've seen are emails posted here, but no actual evidence, only accusations by disgruntled former members claiming TMO status. From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. But, I wouldn't believe a single word from Alex Mardas or Conny Larsson. It wouldn't upset me to find out about any of these alleged activities; Trungpa was well known for having relations with students; Osel Tenzin died of AIDS, Richard Baker of the San Francisco Zen Centrer once left a female student's shoes outside the door, Swami Rama was found guilty in a court after he was already dead, the Krishnamurti, the Sogyal and the Kalu have both been reported to have had girlfriends, Adi Da is probably a genuine profligate, and the Zen Master Rama, accdording to Uncle Tantra, used to have relations with all of his female students. Reports of inappropriate activities are rampant in ISKCON and ISDL. So what? But obviously nobody here has any evidence, but some like to drink the kool-aid anyway. They've been in and out of cults for most of their adult life. What I can't understand is why some people continued to work for them for years AFTER they found out about them. In one case, a Barry actually put up posters for two of these guys and a Peter actually passed out leaflets, promising enlightenment in 5-7 years. Another, Bharat2, wants me to get into 'Power Touch Yoga', taught by a former Indian pilot and left-handed basket weaver, and Vaj the Nath is trying to get me to believe in a 'Celestial Buddha' who lived over a million years ago on a planet called Meru. Now a Ron and a Billy are extolling a 'Swami G' out in Los Angeles. I wonder what Swami G. is up to? Is he anything like 'Swami Boo' in that movie 'The Guru with Heather Graham? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MS Outlook Help
Ken, consider suing yousendit, it's allows users to email large files (up to 1GB) quickly, securely, and easily. I use it all the time , http://www.yousendit.com/ GL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Group I have a question re: MS Outlook for which I cannot find an answer so I am hoping in this group of obviously avid computer users someone has the solution. Outlook (2003) will not allow me to send email with files of 2mb and over. I have looked everywhere for some way to increase the size of the files I send, many of which are bigger than 2mb. I am not on an exchange server, I work from a home office, my cable provider, Comcast, told me they have no limit and that it is an Outlook issue. Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? Thank you! Kenny H.
[FairfieldLife] Re: In TM, is the mantra empowered by MMY, or Guru Dev?
You can see the Sri Chakra at Sringeri, at Dwarka, at Puri, and at Jyotir Matha. Shankara placed them there. All the members of the Shankara Order worship the Sri Vidya. Swami Brahmananda had a Sri Chakra encrusted with rubies which he kept with him for puja worship. He probably read the Tripura Upanishad on a daily basis. Shankara also composed the Soundaryalahari, with the sixteen bija mantra contained therein. You can also read the Tripura Upanishad - it contains the explanation of the sixteen bija mantras of Sri Vidya. You can also read the commentary by Bhaskarayanatha. You have been given the bija mantra by Swami Bramanand Saraswati, now you are already in the enlightened state - all you have to do is *isolate* the Purusha using Yoga, and then burn up your accumulated karma using tapas. In your case, this might take several lifetimes of devotion to a personal God, practicing Bhakti and Karma Yoga, or, you could use tantric techniques and become a jivanmukti in this very lifetime - it's up to you, Billy. This could be your year of living dangerously. Billy wrote: Got it...but, surely there are pictures, yes? Yes, you can do a Google search on 'Sri Chakra' or 'Sri Yantra'. How about that 16 syllable mantra, can you spell it out here? You will need some flash cards: 'Sanskrit Flash Cards' by Nikolai Bachman And you will probably need a book: 'Learn Sanskrit in 30 Days' by Vidavisarada Available from: http://www.21stbooks.com/ Then you can be reading: 'Auspicious Wisdom' The Texts and Traditions of Srividya Sakta Tantrism in South India by Douglas Renfrew Brooks State University of New York Press, 1992 Other titles of interest: 'The Secret of the Three Cities' An Introduction to Hindu Sakta Tantrism by Douglas Renfrew Brooks University Of Chicago Press, 1998 'The Alchemical Body' Siddha Traditions in Medieval India by David Gordon White Available from Amazon
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. This is directly opposite of every published account I have read by the principles involved. Where did you read this? He didn't. He makes this stuff up. Trying to have a rational conversation with him is an exercise in futility.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Valerie Flame Name Game
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bharat2 wrote: Your team of profligate liars and racketeers lost in '06 and continues to lose. My team? Stop the lying. Bush won both elections fair and square based on our representative form of goverment which vote was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. Your team lost the election, that's the concensus opinion. Face it, you're the loser - you voted for Gore and Kerry. You drank the kool-aid and bought Windows Vista Home Edition and an Intel processor and then whinned about it. You pay double FICA taxes. Question: So, how, exactly, does a 'covert' CIA spy get her name listed in 'Who's Who' and get to attend Democratic fundraisers while her husband works for the Kerry campaign? Another question: If Val was a covert spy, why wasn't anyone charged with leaking her name? You seem to be interested in conspiracy theories, so here's an added bonus question: What about Tim McVeigh's al Qaeda connections? What's up with that? You're babbling, Richard.
[FairfieldLife] VIDEO: See Guru Dev film on You Tube
Guru Dev video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxh2Txy9_C4 Thanks to Paul Mason.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. This is directly opposite of every published account I have read by the principles involved. Where did you read this? Hiya Curtis. WillyTex has no idea where he read this...he just makes it up as he goes. It's useless trying to converse with him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to have a rational conversation with him is an exercise in futility. Is it true? Can you absolutely know that it's true? How do you react when you think that thought? Who would you be without the thought? Then turn it around, and don't forget to find three genuine examples of each turnaround. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
Both you and Rick have wisely warned me to avoid his trollish ways. Thanks. MMY would refer to this good advice as preserving the psychology, wouldn't he! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. This is directly opposite of every published account I have read by the principles involved. Where did you read this? Hiya Curtis. WillyTex has no idea where he read this...he just makes it up as he goes. It's useless trying to converse with him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:13 AM, new.morning wrote: There are several loosely connected themes in this thread, including the above -- and other related posts in the past, revolving around the issues, questions and insights about: How do we know what is true / valid / predictable? What is truth (and is this even a meaningful and useful concept)? How do we know anything? What is valid knowdge? What is the relation of beliefs to knowledge, truth and the way one perceives the world and universe? What if any are the limits of knowledge? What is right or ethical action? What is a valid foundation for ethics? According to Buddhist metaphysics, one would need a high degree of awakening in order to know the truth, i.e. exemplify the dharmakaya, the body of truth. This would mean one would need to be established in unimpeded omniscience and have resolved emotional and mental obscurations completely. These questions are exhaustively detailed in madhyamika. Good answer.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: VIDEO: See Guru Dev film on You Tube
do.rflex wrote: Guru Dev video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxh2Txy9_C4 Thanks to Paul Mason. one question: who is the narrator, and what is he saying ... is it Guru Dev speaking ?? also, cameo of young Maharishi, at about 2:20
[FairfieldLife] (FFL, meet Lisa and Joe) Re: God's Little Clown
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Babafanyou appear to be experiancing some severe roughness of awareness. Feel the body. (Your own, not some child please.) Geez, you might have more success if you refer to these two by their real names, Lisa and Joe. A quick Google search on their usernames reveals that these two are pretty much professional Sai Baba Apologists, and have made a name for themselves (albeit a bad one) on many Yahoo and Google groups. Here's a page on them set up by one of the messengers they tried to shoot: http://www.saibabaexpose.co m/vishvarupa.htm Their M.O. seems to be to troll Yahoo groups and search them for the name of one of their victims, such as Conny Larsson, or of Sai Baba himself. Then they descend upon the group and start spamming it with defenses of the poor, wronged guru. Strangely, these defenses always seem to involve demonizing anyone who has ever said anything even remotely derogatory about Sai Baba, or who reacts negatively to their act. They're trolls. They don't communicate, they pontif- icate. My advice is to ignore them. The only curiosity they hold for me is whether Lisa had *her* genitalia felt up by the Babaster. :-) * Why are all you people such perverts? Is it a genetic defect or something? Perhaps you should spend more of your time researching the facts about suspicuious people who make allegations they cannot back up bozo. I see you are completely avoiding the REAL issue here which is why people you deem to be credible are claiming Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female. I suppose you also believe in Icke's reptilian shapeshifting aliens and that the Queen Mother is a blood-drinking reptile, eh? The big problem is when people like you are too stubborn to see and acknowledge that maybe, just maybe you aren't quite as smart or aware as you think you are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, conscientiousobjector2 000 conscientiousobjector2000@ wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] om [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] groups.com] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] om Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Hey Babafan: Rick asked you some very straightforward questions. Your responses to same were utterly lame. *** geezerfreak, you seem to have great difficulty understanding plain english. Is english not your first language or what? Oh, I forgot to mention, there are also a LOT of DUMB peoplein t e world. Convince me you are not one of them by following CONSTITUTIONAL law instead of rambling like a hysterical nutjob who lost his binky. Insulting him doesn't get you off the hook. How about answering my questions? ** Funny that you say NOTHING when he continuously insults others (and FIRST at that), Rick. I answered the questions. I can't help it if you are too illiterate to get it. This is EXACTLY why you bozos should quit trying to play law enforcement and sticK to your mantras or whatever it is you do do well. Get it through your head: NO Indian children or parents have filed complaints about being molested with police. This means the ADULT WHITE MALES making complaints are LIARS. NOW, do I need to draw you a map? Second-hand stories are NOT EVIDENCE. Do you think prople should be able to tell second- hand tales about YOUR sexual escapades and we should all believe them? Now grow up and get real. The government of India has PUBLICLY stated that the accusations are concocted and malicious and there IS enough DOCUMENTATION to prove that in court. Now deal with it. And quit acting like a bunch of fascists who feel laws don't apply to them. Babafanyou appear to be experiancing some severe roughness of awareness. Feel the body. (Your own, not some child please.) * For your information you little freakazoid, I'm a REAL CHILD sexual abuse survivor. It may be a BIG joke to you when someone is accused of sexual abuse but it is NOT to me. Now grow up you immature pervert.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown For your information you little freakazoid, I'm a REAL CHILD sexual abuse survivor. It may be a BIG joke to you when someone is accused of sexual abuse but it is NOT to me. Now grow up you immature pervert. Baba seems to be having a wonderful effect on you folks. Such warm, loving posts. Where do I sign up?
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Turquoise since you claim to be so smart, please do tell us why three of the adult accusers (Keith Ord, Alaya Rahm and Ullrich Zimmermann) claimed that Sai Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female. You are so smart, you do know about that don't you? Andy Rymer said that too. Of course, the only way they would know that, if it happened, is if they were feeling or seeing his genitalia. And from there it's not a stretch to believe that he was reciprocating. So far I haven't heard either you or Babafan comment on that. As Baba devotees who are much better informed about him than I or most of the people here, I'm sincerely interested in your interpretation of these goings on. Has Baba ever explained it? You seem to be admitting here that several people have independently observed something about his genitalia, which means you acknowledge that they were in a position to observe it, so we're not arguing that point. I just want to hear your commentary on why Baba provided an opportunity for those observations to occur. Even if I grant you that many of the accusations are false, you have just admitted that some of these activities actually happened. Presumably you see them in a positive light. I'm stating this in various ways in order to make myself as clear as possible and to get you to answer the following request: please share with us your understanding of why Baba engages in these activities, to whatever extent he does. ** The question is WHY are you so willing to believe such asuspicious story in the first place Rick? Your buddy Andy Rymer was singing Baba's praises and even had a website in which he used Sai Baa for his advertising. Not to mention your story is another second-hand tellig as Andy Rymer has NEVER made a public statement regarding his alleged experience so that his statements can be analysed and questions can be asked in order to determine whether he is truthful or not. My experience is that people who hide out after they ake accusations are NOT truthful. If their claims cannot stand up to scrutiny, i for one and absolutely NOT going to back them. If you want to back people you do not know or think you know, you go right ahead, that YOUR responsibility.
[FairfieldLife] Conny's response Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: Conny Larsson [mailto:] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:38 AM To: Rick Archer Subject: Re: FW: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown Dear Rick! My answer will come but I have sent it to my friend Robert for correcting my bad english otherwise it will look so dreadfull. I think he will send it to you when he have gone trough it. Otherwise I have no interest at all longer to deal with the Sai Baba matter. He is just a past thing a creep that I had to go through on my way in life. I rather would have liked not to met him at all. Later after my respons whatever they raise in answer is out of no interest. They are mostly prof. that are grumbling about this creep and his devious organisation and would not have any part of it longer. What is said they all can read on the www.exbaba.com There is no need for anything more later on. We shall all have people to sign the Petition tha exbaba.com broadcast! Love and care Rick! Conny What a pathetic joke this Conny is; first he writes books full of venom about people he has met. When questions is raised all he says is he is just a past thing, a creep...blabla. This fellow has, and probably never had, any dignity. Saints like Maharishi and Sai Baba are probably just happy not having to see this swedish lowwlife anymore. *** Exactly, Nablusoss, Conny Larsson just showed by his answer he is NOT concerned about seeking justice for alleged sexual abuse victims at ALL. He is more interested in selling his books (one pro-Sai Baba and one con...nothing like making money on both ends). Remember, this is the guy who claimed he was told about sexual abuse as far back as 1986 and did ABSOLUTELY nothing about it. Not only did he do nothing about it but he went on to write a book and give public speeches extolling Baba's virtues (after he claims he even had sex with the God)! And these bozos keep applauding Conny for his credibilty? Give me a break. They obviously have NO clue or sensitivity about sexual abuse or they would not be so casual about accepting such dubious claims. In otherwords their so-called their supposed caring is all a big pretense based on their FEAR.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of conscientiousobjector2000 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown For your information you little freakazoid, I'm a REAL CHILD sexual abuse survivor. It may be a BIG joke to you when someone is accused of sexual abuse but it is NOT to me. Now grow up you immature pervert. Baba seems to be having a wonderful effect on you folks. Such warm, loving posts. Where do I sign up? ** You seem to be a very insensitive person when people make such perverted jokes Rick. Why do you always seem to be defending the liars and perverts and abusers Rick?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In one case, a Barry actually put up posters for two of these guys and a Peter actually passed out leaflets, promising enlightenment in 5-7 years. Are you referring to me? What in the world are you talking about? Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get it through your head: NO Indian children or parents have filed complaints about being molested with police. The chldren, parents and police were all molested together? Or were the police just watching? This means the ADULT WHITE MALES making complaints are LIARS. NOW, do I need to draw you a map? Second-hand stories are NOT EVIDENCE. Do you think prople should be able to tell second-hand tales about YOUR sexual escapades and we should all believe them? You statement suggests that you may believe all second hand accounts are categorically false. If so, that seems a bit harsh and unproductive. While they certainly are not all categorically true, some may be true, others not, some partly. The degree of credibility of first hand party is a key factor in evaluating such. *** The POINT is these are ALL second-hand stories and the fist-hand parties cannot even be verified! The anti-Sais claim to have all this evidence but they can never come up with the goods. I have been waiting for almost five years to come up with the goods and all they can do is play games and tap dance with the media whores. Not ONE of the accusers has even ONE corroborative witness. NOT ONE. Anyone who asks for proof or asks inconvenient questions about their contradictions is then accused of harassing them. If we do not ask, then we are accused of not wanting to know the truth. It is one big mind screw either way you go with these bozos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] (FFL, meet Lisa and Joe) Re: God's Little Clown
The Queen Mother is a reptile? Holy shit! Someone's been asleep at the switch! --- conscientiousobjector2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Babafanyou appear to be experiancing some severe roughness of awareness. Feel the body. (Your own, not some child please.) Geez, you might have more success if you refer to these two by their real names, Lisa and Joe. A quick Google search on their usernames reveals that these two are pretty much professional Sai Baba Apologists, and have made a name for themselves (albeit a bad one) on many Yahoo and Google groups. Here's a page on them set up by one of the messengers they tried to shoot: http://www.saibabaexpose.co m/vishvarupa.htm Their M.O. seems to be to troll Yahoo groups and search them for the name of one of their victims, such as Conny Larsson, or of Sai Baba himself. Then they descend upon the group and start spamming it with defenses of the poor, wronged guru. Strangely, these defenses always seem to involve demonizing anyone who has ever said anything even remotely derogatory about Sai Baba, or who reacts negatively to their act. They're trolls. They don't communicate, they pontif- icate. My advice is to ignore them. The only curiosity they hold for me is whether Lisa had *her* genitalia felt up by the Babaster. :-) * Why are all you people such perverts? Is it a genetic defect or something? Perhaps you should spend more of your time researching the facts about suspicuious people who make allegations they cannot back up bozo. I see you are completely avoiding the REAL issue here which is why people you deem to be credible are claiming Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female. I suppose you also believe in Icke's reptilian shapeshifting aliens and that the Queen Mother is a blood-drinking reptile, eh? The big problem is when people like you are too stubborn to see and acknowledge that maybe, just maybe you aren't quite as smart or aware as you think you are. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
[FairfieldLife] Barbed Wire? (was Re: Vedic City takeover)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 31, 2007, at 8:37 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Um, I beg your pardon, but did you say barbed wire? It's obviously to keep all the crazy, wild women of FF away from the pundits' purity. Is it even legal to use that for people? I'll go down in a few minutes to see if it's really barbed wire. This I gotta see. Look out ! One crazy wild woman of FF is on her way to the pundits place ! OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: VIDEO: See Guru Dev film on You Tube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: Guru Dev video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxh2Txy9_C4 Thanks to Paul Mason. one question: who is the narrator, and what is he saying ... is it Guru Dev speaking ?? also, cameo of young Maharishi, at about 2:20 *** It's Guru Dev speaking, possibly this is what he's saying -- recordings of him were rare: In a rare wire recording of Swami Brahmananda Sarasvati, he says that it is easy for the mind to reach the paramatma (that which is beyond the Atman) but the experience cannot be expressed. He gives the example of a statue made of salt. You can put it in the sea and it will go deep down into the water without any difficulty. It will melt in the sea. If you ask the statue to say anything about the sea (the experience) like how deep it was, etc. it is very difficult! Like that the mind experiences the paramatma and becomes immersed in it. It cannot speak about the experience of becoming the paramatma. If it can then it has not really experienced it. http://tinyurl.com/yodp3x
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barbed Wire? (was Re: Vedic City takeover)
On Jun 1, 2007, at 8:06 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Look out ! One crazy wild woman of FF is on her way to the pundits place ! Too late. I'm pretty sure they all survived, though. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Barbed Wire? (was Re: Vedic City takeover)
Oh, and what's with the barbed wire fencing out at the new pundit housing camp? It wouldn't be a TB related issue would it? lurk
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjTN3JfhsZo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barbed Wire? (was Re: Vedic City takeover)
On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:06 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Oh, and what's with the barbed wire fencing out at the new pundit housing camp? It wouldn't be a TB related issue would it? No, TB is so last month, Lurk. Now it's leprosy. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stories
Edg writes : Tom, I am a bit iffy on what you're trying to say in your three consecutive posts. Are you supporting my post or finding error or I don't find much to argue with in the quotes you give, but then, I don't have much resonance with the vocabulary, so trying to see what your concepts are is hard for me. Can you take a second go at my post and try to underline what you mean to communicate? Edg TomT; No Problemo. just adding to what you posted. Some may find it an addition and others not so. Just my spice in your soup. Like what you write. I prefer to be a commentator or to find other words that say it better than I. Big company in Rochester made billions in copying things called Xerox. Used to be a client of mine. Sometimes others have said it so well that it is just nice to add that particular viewpoint to the stew of FFlife. As in On the other hand like that,like that.Tom
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. Curtis wrote: This is directly opposite of every published account I have read by the principles involved. Maybe so, but I don't recall the Marshy having written anything about the Beatles. Can you be a little more specific, Curtis? In which of Marshy's books, exactly, did you read anything that the Marshy wrote about the Beatles? Where did you read this? We have a perfectly good account of the time the Beatles spent in India with Marshy and the complete Mia episode. Nancy Cooke de Herrerra, who was there, details this event in her book. According to Nancy, Marshy did not approve of Paul McCartney sleeping with Jane Asher at Rishikesh TTC and he asked them to leave if they couldn't abide by the ashram rules. It was just embarassing to have them carrying on in front of the visiting Sadhus. 'Beyond Gurus' by Nancy Cooke De Herrera Blue Dolphin Publishing, 1992 We also have Mia Farrow's book in which she provides an account of her meeting with Marshy in the cave. In that book she also tells about her relationship with Frank and Woody, not a pleasant read. It's obvious after reading her book that the girl was obsessed with having sex with famous people. 'What Falls Away' by Mia Farrow Doubleday Co., 1997 And we have the book by Cynthia Lennon and the biography of John Lennon by Albert Goldman. Both seem to agree that John Lennon was not an agreeable fellow, who was addicted to all kinds of drugs, refused to sleep with his own wife, got Yoko in through the bathroom window, and then abandoned his own son. Go figure. 'A Twist of Lennon' by Cynthia Lennon Avon Books, 1980 'The Lives of John Lennon' by Albert Goldman Morrow, 1988 In addition, we have the published remarks of Deepak Chopra, who has said that the Marshy was very unhappy about the Beatles sneaking all that dope into the Rishikesh TTC. 'When Maharishi threw Beatles out' The Times of India, Wednesday, February 15, 2006 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1415230.cms
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMStories
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: The ability to appreciate several points of Views simultaneously is a very powerful Taoist technique that will enable you to see the larger picture and see how it all fits in. Cosmic concept juggling. :-) Some characterize this juggling of opposites as a Bad Thing. They call it moral relativism snip But it seems to me that the belief that one's fixed, strongly defined morals are right and justified and that the more fluid morals of others are NOT as right and NOT as justified is equivalent to believing that the universe has a hierarchy of right and wrong, better and worse. And, because they KNOW the difference between right and wrong, better and worse, THEY exists on a higher level of that cosmic hierarchy. That's an interesting belief system, and there seem to be a great number of people on this planet who have bought into it. Me, I'm more Tantric, and don't necessarily believe that the universe I see around me is structured in levels of Dead Wrong, Wrong, Right, and Most Right. That is fine on one level, yet people can have sense of what is fair when they look to things. A sense, or to apprehend or intuit what is fair or, right or just. i.e., Emerson in a lecture speaks to this too: The intuition of the moral sentiment is an insight of the perfection of the laws of the soul. These laws execute themselves. They are out of time, out of space, and not subject to circumstance. Like Shemp recently observing back in that Girish succession thread that MMY's family may not really 'get' what is Western spirituality that this may become the crux of what is to come of the TMorg the meditating community. He's probably got something there. Can just look at 'the great number of people' in an aggregate who have made their judgment of TM and the TMorg, by walking away. People by action make moral choices all the time, and then others sometimes by acting not even thinking much about it. Nurtured,or hardwired in the DNA, taught, socialized, or from beyond; things sometimes can be a little firmer than just intellectual relativism(s) that make no choices or has no moral courage. Turq, from reading I see that you have a lot more courage about life than you pretend with this kind of writing you are trying here recently on moral philosophy. May be though you will be able to reconcile and mend what they have broke here, coming in with such a relativism that says everyone is okay. With Best Regards, -Doug in FF I also don't see much evidence that it's structured in levels of Really Bad, Bad, Good, and Most Good. I see a kind of wonderful hodgepodge of percep- tions and opinions held by people who all see the world differently, and are fully justified in seeing it differently, because it really IS different for each of them. One person could see a cemetary and think about death and ghosts and feel aversion or even fear. Another person, more Tantric in their approach to life, could see see the same cemetary and think, Wow...what a cool place to meditate, because to them it would mean meditating in an environment that provides a reminder of the transitory nature of life. Which one of these persons is right? Which is better than the other? I don't know. But there seem to be folks here who do. They seem to have NO PROBLEM stating who is right on this forum and who is wrong. They have NO PROBLEM stating whose position on a matter of pure opinion is better and which is worse. I don't know about you, but I never received the User's Manual that lists these Right/Wrong Better/Worse pairs in some kind of easy-to-read chart. When I look at the activities or at the beliefs that some claim with the voice of Auth- ority and Righteous Indignation ARE on one and only one side of the chart, I see them all as pretty much equivalent. I'm willing to allow karma to work out the details of which activities are more life-supporting than others. I DON'T KNOW. Others here seem to know. Perhaps that means that they live on a higher level of the cosmic hierarchy than I do. Then again, maybe they just think they do... TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:49:41 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stories Maharishi is one of the greatest spiritual teachers the world has ever known. He is a living saint, fully enlightened, and thus incapable of doing anything that is not fully in accord with the laws of nature. There- fore anything that anyone says against him is false, and indicates that the person saying it is either deluded or has some malevolent intent towards this great saint. He's one of the world's 'good guys,' and anyone who speaks ill of him is a 'bad guy.' Maharishi is a con man who has
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Little Clown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've read, the Marshy threw out the Beatles for smoking dope at TTC and he told Mia to leave after she tried to seduce him inside a cave one night. Curtis wrote: This is directly opposite of every published account I have read by the principles involved. Maybe so, but I don't recall the Marshy having written anything about the Beatles. Can you be a little more specific, Curtis? In which of Marshy's books, exactly, did you read anything that the Marshy wrote about the Beatles? Where did you read this? We have a perfectly good account of the time the Beatles spent in India with Marshy and the complete Mia episode. Nancy Cooke de Herrerra, who was there, details this event in her book. According to Nancy, Marshy did not approve of Paul McCartney sleeping with Jane Asher at Rishikesh TTC and he asked them to leave if they couldn't abide by the ashram rules. It was just embarassing to have them carrying on in front of the visiting Sadhus. 'Beyond Gurus' by Nancy Cooke De Herrera Blue Dolphin Publishing, 1992 We also have Mia Farrow's book in which she provides an account of her meeting with Marshy in the cave. In that book she also tells about her relationship with Frank and Woody, not a pleasant read. It's obvious after reading her book that the girl was obsessed with having sex with famous people. 'What Falls Away' by Mia Farrow Doubleday Co., 1997 And we have the book by Cynthia Lennon and the biography of John Lennon by Albert Goldman. Both seem to agree that John Lennon was not an agreeable fellow, who was addicted to all kinds of drugs, refused to sleep with his own wife, got Yoko in through the bathroom window, and then abandoned his own son. Go figure. 'A Twist of Lennon' by Cynthia Lennon Avon Books, 1980 'The Lives of John Lennon' by Albert Goldman Morrow, 1988 In addition, we have the published remarks of Deepak Chopra, who has said that the Marshy was very unhappy about the Beatles sneaking all that dope into the Rishikesh TTC. 'When Maharishi threw Beatles out' The Times of India, Wednesday, February 15, 2006 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1415230.cms Tex, you have misquoted every one of these books, no surprise there since you prefer to make it up as you go. Go figure indeed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: friend's suggestion that we engage in a discussion about the movement
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: But I think that you know (and, like me, have probably seen it happen) that even if the legal system found some- thing dreadfully illegal about the TMO's activities, or about Marharishi's activies, there are people who would *refuse* to believe a word of it. Their trust in their existing beliefs is stronger than their trust in the legal system. So, again, why even *bother* to try to sway those beliefs? We can talk about the things we believe here, and they can talk about the things they believe in the groups they hang with. No harm, no foul, no need for either side to try to convince the other that it's right. To do so just seems like an awful waste of time and energy to me. Yeah, that Bonhoeffer guy for instance, he could have saved himself a lot of trouble and probably have saved his neck if he just would have, kept his mouth shut. http://www.dbonhoeffer.org/ A real negativist. What was with him anyway, moralist fool. Huh? You enjoying France now? Are you still back on this subject? :-) I forgot it and moved on long ago. And I don't have ANY idea who Bonhoeffer is and why you're referencing him. What i am reading here in what you write now is the urging that, we should not be divided on moral cause about how we do things? An advitan newage-ie thing, be one, are all one and... Yet people do have a sense of what is fair. With MMY, TM and the TMorg, there are just a few hundreds left and many who have walked away. And? What makes them -- either those who stuck with TM or the ones who walked away -- important enough to concern myself with? Turq, you may not be concerned. You live in France not much influenced by the TMorg anymore, we live here in FF where our lives very much are. You do seem interested as you do continue on FFL. Inside that interest are likely some concerns (?) about things FF, MMY, TM and the TMorg. Yet, FF and the TMorg being remote from your life now, you need not concern yourself, unless you're stuck or would like to get involved. With Kind Regards, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: most peaceful nations: 1. Norway; USA 96th
The United States is a horrible, unpeaceful place. That's why no one tries to come here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/6704767.stm Norway rated most peaceful nation A study has ranked Norway as the most peaceful country and Iraq as the least in a survey of 121 countries. The Global Peace Index, compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit, looked at 24 factors to determine how peaceful each country was. It places the US at 96th on the list and the UK at 49th, while New Zealand ranks second and Japan fifth. The authors say it is the first attempt to produce such a wide- ranging league table of how peaceful countries are. Factors examined by the authors include levels of violence and organised crime within the country and military expenditure. The survey has been backed by the Dalai Lama, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, former US President Jimmy Carter and US economist Joseph Stiglitz, who are all Nobel prize laureates. It is also supported by Queen Noor of Jordan. 'Wake-up call' Scandinavian and other European countries generally performed well in the survey. TOP FIVE COUNTRIES 1 Norway 2 New Zealand 3 Denmark 4 Ireland 5 Japan But Britain's ranking comes partly from its involvement in Iraq and other conflicts. The United States is 96th - between Yemen and Iran - again because of such things as its military spending, its involvement in Iraq, violent crime at home, and a high prison population. The survey also places Russia and Israel at the wrong end of the scale - 118th and 119th respectively. The brainchild of Steve Killelea, an Australian entrepreneur, the survey is meant to inform governments, international organisations, and campaign groups. Mr Killelea said: This is a wake-up call for leaders around the globe. Countries need to become more peaceful to solve the major challenges that the world faces - from climate change to decreasing biodiversity. BOTTOM FIVE COUNTRIES 117 Nigeria 118 Russia 119 Israel 120 Sudan 121 Iraq There is also a strong case for the world becoming more peaceful and it is now crucial for world leaders and business to take a lead, he said. He added that the high positions of Germany, which ranked 12th, and Japan revealed that there can be light at the end of what may seem at the moment like a very dark tunnel. The study is published just before the G8 summit of leading countries next week. The authors say they are trying to supplant what they call some woolly definitions of peace with a scientific approach, that includes levels of violent crime, political instability, and a country's relations with its neighbours. But questions have been raised over the way some of these factors are brought together. The authors themselves acknowledge that there is a lack of data in many countries. What impact the new survey will have is unclear. The authors also argue that some countries - like Japan - may benefit from sheltering under the US military umbrella. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/6704767.stm Published: 2007/05/30 15:01:50 GMT © BBC MMVII
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on illegal immigrants
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you wrote was very decieving - you attempted to decieve. No, again, that would be you. What you wrote was decieving - I've seen no evidence that Wells Fargo Bank hired illegal aliens as bank tellers, clerks, or custodians. So, apparently they all didn't hire illegals. What you wrote was decieving. Quite correct. By writing, below, all hire illegals IS deceiving. It is equivalent to saying that a person who jaywalks breaks the law because jaywalking is against the law. jstein wrote: Tyson Foods Miller Brewing Honeywell Home Depot Ford Wells Fargo Bank Hormel IHOP Swift and Co. All hire illegals.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Prison of the Mind, Sthapatya Veda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: I'm curious to know what ordinary mortals feel in these SV buildings. Anybody have anything to report? I have spent very little time in SV bldgs, but I have felt a clear uplifting quality on entering these bldgs. I had the same sensation when I entered the old SRM (Charlie Lutes organization in TM- ville) bldg in W. Los Angeles, where thousands of initations had been performed: a feeling of being lighter, a feeling of bliss and greater self-awareness. The SRM bldg was not SV-compliant (it had north and west entrances, but at least it did not have a south entrance), but the experience was clear and persistent through many visits, and I am not given to bliss-ninny mood-making -- I have had the same experience on entering the SV bldgs in Fairfield, so I would definitely spring for a compliant house, and plan to do so as soon as I pay off the repair and upgrades on my aircraft. One fellow I know in Australia lived in a very non-SV building and descided to just make a small correction to the entrance so at least that would face north. Within three weeks he met the woman in his life, after 4 months he won a huge sum in the lottery. More importantly he claims his meditations are more quiet, Sidhis more clear than before and his general support of nature more pronounced. The cost of the adjustment was 3000$ I eagerly await the day when Nablus goes the way of Ron.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MS Outlook Help
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Group I have a question re: MS Outlook for which I cannot find an answer so I am hoping in this group of obviously avid computer users someone has the solution. Outlook (2003) will not allow me to send email with files of 2mb and over. I have looked everywhere for some way to increase the size of the files I send, many of which are bigger than 2mb. I am not on an exchange server, I work from a home office, my cable provider, Comcast, told me they have no limit and that it is an Outlook issue. Anyone have a solution so I can use Outlook 2003 to send large files? Thank you! Kenny H. I always find this incredibly helpful whenever I have a question about either Windows XP or Outlook. It is a Google Group that is specifically devoted to answering questions and concerns you have about the product...and, if I understand how it works correctly, the people that do the answering are experts paid by MicroSoft to answer your concerns: http://tinyurl.com/37mnfs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on illegal immigrants
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Peter: Jesus Christ! Here we go again. Judy: F**k off, Peter. If somebody grossly misrepresented what you had said and then called you a liar for saying it, I don't imagine you'd let it go by. She, they, just don't get it. It's an addiction, clothed in moral indignance that their integrity has been violated, and that it must be restored. God Save the Queen. What they don't realize, and likely, will never realize is that NO ONE CARES. Another thought here: How can you possibly not care that there are several people on this forum who *routinely and deliberately* tell falsehoods? This makes no sense to me. If you don't care about dishonesty, what *can* you care about? Dishonesty underlies so many of the evils of this world. How can you just *ignore* it when it's right under your nose? Why didn't a dozen people jump on Shemp when he claimed Al Gore's father was a segregationist? It's because even YOU admit that he voted against the Civil Rights Act. When people read that they think: Okay, that technically doesn't mean he's an actual segregationist, but until I have more information, HE'S SUSPECT! Then, perhaps, they read on and discover that after being in Congress and the Senate for several decades Gore lost his bid for reelection PRECISELY BECAUSE HE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART AND CAME OUT AGAINST SEGREGATION. What does that say about his previous 30 years representing a Dixiecrat state? Do you think that someone could be reelected from a southern state during this tumultuous time period in race relations because he was AGAINST segregation Or perhaps they read anecdotes about his personal life -- recounted by Al Junior's Black Nanny -- that Senior and family frequented segregated restaurants? Your adamant insistence on such an issue, Judy, is why people do NOT regularly defend you on a regular basis. How can you not care about an honorable public servant, no longer around to defend himself, being slandered in public with the aim of denigrating his son, the leader in the fight against global warming? It is because the ONLY reason Al Gore ever got elected in the first place as a senator from Tennessee was that it was his father's old Senate seat, just like Bush got his political success because of HIS father. So it is fair game. And it is fair game to try and understand the motivations behind why such an apparently intelligent person resorts to the worst kind of fear-mongering and I attempted to posit an explanation by examining where he got his fear-mongering from. If Al Gore Sr. were still alive and happened to be a participant here, if he spoke up to defend himself, apparently you'd be happy to dump on him as you do me. Would it not be a fair question to ask him why he voted against the Civil Rights Act? We have Bush in office today, rather than Gore, because of rampant dishonesty; we're losing our young men and women in Iraq, and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, because of rampant dishonesty, because that dishonesty was *tolerated*, because too many people didn't care about it. How can you not be against dishonesty wherever you find it? I truly don't understand that kind of thinking. Resistance to dishonesty should be a *reflex*, an instinct. It *should* be an addiction.
[FairfieldLife] Global Warming problem solved!
The kooky non-existent global warming problem can be solved at any time by this solution...so go ahead: get in your SUV and drive and drive and drive! Russia knows how to prevent global warming - academic 20:47 | 30/ 05/ 2007 http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070530/66362712.html MOSCOW, May 30 (RIA Novosti) - Russian scientists have found a way to prevent global warming of the Earth, the director of the Global Climate and Ecology Institute said Wednesday. Russian Academy of Sciences Academic Yury Izrael told a news conference that the method envisions air spraying of a sulfur- containing aerosol in lower stratosphere layers at a height of 10-14 kilometers (six to 10 miles). Sulfur drops would then reflect solar radiation. According to scientists, one million tons of aerosol sprayed above the planet would make possible a reduction of solar radiation by 0.5- 1%, and a reduction of air temperature by 1-1.5 degrees Celsius. Unseasonably hot May weather with temperatures at 32.1 degrees Celsius (89.7 degrees Fahrenheit) beating a 116-year-old maximum has already seen last year's energy consumption for this time of year surpassed by about 8% in Moscow and 12% in St. Petersburg, a spokeswoman for the UES electricity monopoly said earlier. Izrael said the method demands more detailed development, and that a relevant decision on the international level should be made for it to come into force. However, the academic said the method is not an alternative to measures to fight climate change envisioned by the Kyoto Protocol, which contains commitments by some countries on specific volumes of greenhouse gas emission reductions. I don't want any contradiction of the Kyoto Protocol, but in parallel with existing methods, cheaper ones should be developed. I am advocating that work be conducted simultaneously on several methods, Izrael said. He also said the Russian scientists' method will make the fight against warming faster and cheaper. It is also good that it can be stopped at any moment, Izrael said. The Russian academic said global temperature in the coming 100 years could rise by 1.4-4 degrees Celsius, which, he said, will cause droughts, floods and cyclones. He said Russia could face the extinction of 20-30% of its animals and plants if temperatures rise by 2 degrees Celsius. However, Izrael said the current high temperatures in Moscow are not connected with a global climate change. Any fact, even the most acute should not be directly linked to climate change, but should be considered as part of temperature fluctuations, he said.
[FairfieldLife] Abigail and Britney
I don't know why, but I am fascinated by these conjoined twins. Here they are at 16: http://youtube.com/watch?v=W-tT8c4Ebl0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul is the Rockinist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Paul is the Rockinist ! http://youtube.com/watch?v=WUYDt7kC3Z0 I am amused that you, of all people, Off World, would like Ron Paul. Except for his stand on the Iraq War, he probably is diametrically opposed to everything you stand for. He's not even a libertarian; he's an anarcho-capitalist. He's been writing for years for LewRockwell.com. Go check out his archives and you'll see what I mean.
