[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita? The Saint James version always did it for me. Here's some shlokas, or whatever, from the beginning of that giitaa: achintyaavyaktaruupaaya nirguNaaya gaNaatmane | samastajagadaadhaaramuurtaye brahmaNe namaH || 1|| R^ishhaya uuchuH | suuta suuta mahaapraaGYa nigamaagamapaaragam.h | gurusvaruupamasmaakaM bruuhi sarvamalaapaham.h || 2|| yasya shravaNamaatreNa dehii duHkhaadvimuchyate | yena maargeNa munayaH sarvaGYatvaM prapedire || 3|| (The infamous B.Mullquist would translate that like this: By merely hearing [shravaNa-maatreNa] of which [yasya] the Embodied Soul [?? dehii] is liberated [vimuchyate] from suffering [duHkhaat]; by(?) which [yena] road [?maargeNa] /munis/ [munayaH] attain [?prapedire*] all-knowingness [sarva-jñatvam]) *) No idea what the fvck that strange form is of the verb prapad; it might be some perfect tense form, but Sanskrit perfect tense is often to be translated to the corresponding present tense form, like in yas tan na *veda* from the Rco akSare.
[FairfieldLife] 'UCLA gets grant to study consciousness'
Los Angeles, Feb 23 (IANS) The University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) here will soon have another Indian chair. The chair - to be named Dr Mani Bhaumik Chair of Consciousness Study - will be set up at the Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology of the UCLA. The university already has the Navin and Pratima Doshi Chair in Indian History, set up by Los Angeles-based millionaire Navin Doshi in 1999. Beverly Hills-based physicist Mani Bhaumik, who co-invented the laser technology that made LASIK surgery possible, will fund the new chair, named after him. I have given $1 million to UCLA for the chair. The groundwork has been done. We have to just put our signatures on paper. It can start any time now, Bhaumik told IANS. This research chair will be geared towards exploring the mind-universe connection, he said. The 77-year-old scientist said: Physics has done a wonderful job of pinning down the physical reality of the universe. But it has no knowledge about the origin and nature of its consciousness. This chair will work on this theme. Referring to ancient Indian Vedic heritage, Bhaumik said: Consciousness is not just within our skull, but throughout the universe. In Hinduism, we call this consciousness Brahma, which is the basis of the universe. In Physics, the so-called magnetic field is the basis of the universe. Thus, Brahma and physics are two sides of the same coin. The goal of my chair is to marry Brahma with physics. He said the late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of the transcendental meditation (TM) programme, showed to the West how our consciousness affects the body. The mind of man and god is a single finely tuned broadcast system. Ten universities are now doing research on the effects of TM on the human mind, Bhaumik said. Bhaumik said he chose the Cousins Center for the chair because it has done pioneering work on the mind-body relationship. The Indian-born scientist has also instituted the $15,000 Mani Bhaumik Award at the Cousins Center for pioneering work on mind-body connection. The multi-millionaire bachelor scientist is also building the Mani Bhaumik International University in Kolkata. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An inconvenient truth: global cooling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please! Please! Please! Help combat global cooling! Please get in your car this week-end and take an unnecessary drive somewhereleave the car running for an hour or two in the driveway...burn some coal! http://tinyurl.com/3b5h2l That's weally weird! Here at 61N30 (about the same as the southernmost coast of Greenland) this winter the temperature has most of the time been some degrees above 0 degrees Celsius (32 F). At the moment there's practically no snow here: http://www.jotain.com/tamperecam/
[FairfieldLife] 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer Fri Feb 22, 5:18 PM ET NEW YORK - For many black Americans, it's a conversation they find hard to avoid, revisiting old fears in the light of bright new hopes. ADVERTISEMENT adx_U_30664=;adx_D_30664=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14tcs4q43/M=633853.12015927.12446048.1414694/D=news/S=8903239:LREC/_ylt=AneuZP7.9lNl4agvYV4OugRH2ocA/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1203767042/L=o9L1SUWTVvqylHbpR755lhRrQ7dBeke_6uIAA6v2/B=NYTVBNj8ek8-/J=1203759842253247/A=5117002/R=0/*;adx_I_30664=;; if(c.indexOf(adx_fc_30664)==0)eval(c) if(window.yzq_d==null)window.yzq_d=new Object(); window.yzq_d['NYTVBNj8ek8-']='U=13bla2dku%2fN%3dNYTVBNj8ek8-%2fC%3d633853.12015927.12446048.1414694%2fD%3dLREC%2fB%3d5117002'; They watch with wonder as Barack Obama moves ever closer to becoming America's first black president. And they ask themselves, their family, their friends: Is he at risk? Will he be safe? There is, of course, no sure answer. But interviews with blacks across the country, prominent and otherwise, suggest that lingering worries are outweighed by enthusiasm and determination. You can't have lived through the civil rights movement and know something about the history of African-Americans in this country and not be a little concerned, said Edna Medford, a history professor at Washington's Howard University. But African-Americans are more concerned that Obama get the opportunity to do the best he can, she added. And if he wins, most of us believe the country would do for him what it would do for any president, that he will be as well protected as any of them. Clyde Barrett, 66, a longtime U.S. Labor Department employee now retired in Tampa, Fla., says he often hears expressions of concern for Obama's safety. One young acquaintance, Barrett said, declared he wouldn't even vote for Obama for fear of exposing him to more danger. To me that's a cop-out, where you can't take a stand and support someone because you fear for his safety, Barrett said. I don't have any apprehension ... We've got to go ahead and persevere. For many older blacks, the barometer for gauging hopes and fears is the 1968 assassination of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. But concern about Obama's safety transcends racial lines. He has white supporters who see him as an inspiring, youthful advocate of change in the mold of Robert F. Kennedy, and they are mindful of Kennedy's assassination just two months after King's. Pam Hart, the principal of a multiracial elementary school in the Philadelphia suburb of Cheltenham, said she is struck by the contrast between some of the black students there, innocently excited about Obama's candidacy, and the more anxious perspective of older people who lived through the violence of the 1960s. My 70-year-old aunt every time I call her, she says she's really afraid Obama is going to be assassinated. She is so worried that history will repeat itself, said Hart, who is 40. I understand why she's afraid, but I feel we live in a different world now. Bruce Gordon, a New York-based business leader and former president of the NAACP, also feels the climate has changed dramatically as evidenced by the strong nationwide support that Obama is receiving from whites as well as blacks. Gordon felt differently back in the mid-1990s, when Gen. Colin Powell was weighing a run for the presidency, and Powell's wife, Alma, was among those voicing concern about his safety. When Powell decided not to run, I said to myself, 'Good,' because I thought someone would kill him, Gordon recalled. This time, I think that if, out of fear, we keep our most talented people from running for office, it will never happen. Yes, there's a risk, but I would never want it to be in the way, Gordon added. In running, Barack Obama has to accept the fact that he faces a risk. And yes, we pray for him. Obama received Secret Service protection last May the earliest ever for any presidential candidate. At the time, federal officials said they were not aware of any direct threats to Obama, but Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin who was among those recommending the Secret Service deployment acknowledged receiving information, some with racial overtones, that made him concerned for Obama's safety. Obama's campaign, invited this week to comment on the concerns felt by many blacks, referred to a speech given by the candidate's wife, Michelle, to a mostly black audience in South Carolina last fall. I know people care about Barack and our family. I know people want to protect us and themselves from disappointment, she said, before urging people to cast fear aside. If you're willing to heed Coretta Scott King's words and not be afraid of the future ... there's no challenge we can't overcome, she said. Obama himself, while acknowledging that his family and friends are concerned about his safety, has drawn a contrast with
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote: To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of the Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been hypothesized for many years, but never proven. Thanks. We won't hold our breaths... especially those of us with dualistic views. sandiego108 [aka Jim Flanegan] apparently supports 'bait and switch' world peace. The kind he foresees is when everyone turns into obnoxious zombie non-persons like him who actually do zilch about anything in the real world. Wars, poverty, human suffering of all manner keep happening but it no longer matters to freaks like him who live in an alternate invincible reality of imaginary invincible kingdoms in imaginary invincible countries. i know-- if he'd *only* change, *i'd* be a lot happier and the world would be a *much* better place for all of us. bastard. Agreed. Can't understand why all these fools simply couldn't be more like MYSELF ! What a beautiful and peaceful place this world would have been... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote: To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of the Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been hypothesized for many years, but never proven. Thanks. We won't hold our breaths... especially those of us with dualistic views. sandiego108 [aka Jim Flanegan] apparently supports 'bait and switch' world peace. The kind he foresees is when everyone turns into obnoxious zombie non-persons like him who actually do zilch about anything in the real world. Wars, poverty, human suffering of all manner keep happening but it no longer matters to freaks like him who live in an alternate invincible reality of imaginary invincible kingdoms in imaginary invincible countries. i know-- if he'd *only* change, *i'd* be a lot happier and the world would be a *much* better place for all of us. bastard. Typical bullshit 'avoid-the-issue' non-answer from our local self-proclaimed 'enlightened' guy. John, I can appreciate that you like a tidy universe where everyone makes the same assumptions as you do, and those that don't are wrong. But that is a tad too fundamentalist for my liking, and my experience, so I won't be spending my time here engaging you in a meaningless argument about who is right and who is wrong in this situation. I am perfectly OK with you dreaming whatever dream you wish to, and I will continue to do the same. If you continue to insist that I conform to your assumptions, however rational and true they seem for you, then I would ask that you please go fuck yourself. I'm done. Thanks. Finally a sane voice :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: benefits of hyaluronic acid (HA).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Thanks, just received my shipment of 2 vials of 100% pure HA yesterday, for an Arizona retailer. It's non-prescription. Various products are on the market with counterclaims on the Fine, but is it a natural substance and how is it produced ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] Third, what is wrong with either you or he believing this? He is permitted to believe anything he wants, as are you. You'll notice that Chopra (as far as I know) does NOT go out of his way the way you do to trash anyone who doesn't believe that Maharishi is enlightened. He just presents what he believes, and allows others to believe what they believe. I'm suggesting that you could learn from his example. I never said there was anything wrong with Chopra believing or disbelieving things. I'm merely wondering why you assume he's telling the truth. Because it rings true, with everything I know about Maharishi from first-hand experience, with everything I know about the TM movement from first-hand experience, and with everything I know about spiritual groups in general from first- and many-hand experience. The *only* things he's said so far, that you seem to be reacting to so strongly, is 1) that Maharishi was as capable of getting sick as anyone else, if not more so (obviously true), 2) that Maharishi needed some undetermined period of recovery time from the seriousness of his illnesses (wouldn't you?), 3) that Maharishi and the TMO actively sought to hide things from their own members (again, obviously true, in that they *succeeded* in hiding this illness for a decade and a half), and 4) that King Tony has a...uh...shaky relationship with reality and doesn't like to be told things that challenge that notion of reality (Duh!). And on that basis you've been trying to portray Chopra as a LIAR? Think this through, dude. BTW, I am not certain that MMY was enlightened in any respect, even to the Cosmic Consciousness level, even assuming that his interpretation of things has some validity in the first place. Cool. Me, either. But that's not the point I was making. I DON'T CARE what you believe. IMO, your beliefs have just as good a chance as being true as mine. ALL I'm talking about is your BEHAVIOR on this forum. That behavior is consistent enough that I am not the only person here who has noticed that it falls into a PATTERN. That pattern is to react strongly to many statements critical of Maharishi or the TMO by spouting the TM Party Line (which is understand- able, given the nature of the TMO with regard to promoting that Party Line as a near-catechism des- cription of reality). But the OTHER part of the pattern is to actively imply or state that the critic himself is LYING, or is otherwise untrust- worthy. In other words, you tend react to any belief or statement that challenges the dogma as if it is some kind of attack, one that needs to be met with a counterattack. Your preferred form of counter- attack is to suggest that the people saying the things you don't like are not just deluded, but LYING. They have evil intent. They mean you or Maharishi or the TMO harm. I'm sorry, dude, but that's out of place. I *like* you, Lawson. You have many good points, and you have shared many of them with us. When you react, for example, to inaccuracies about the TM-related research by quoting the actual research, that's way cool. But when you suggest that someone is LYING because you don't *like* what they said? I'm just trying -- once again -- to make a point, and to see whether you are capable of hearing it. So far on all of these forums you have not been. But hope springs eternal. :-) It's not what you believe. I couldn't care less what you believe. It's how you act in the defense of those beliefs. I think that's over the line and indefensible in itself. And you don't NEED to act that way. You are MORE than intelligent enough to defend TM and Maha- rishi just by stating the good points about them and the benefits they've brought to your life. You don't have to go to the dark side and then attack those who believe otherwise as if they are attacking you. I really don't see that they are. I'm saying all this because it's in the wind these days. We're seeing the same phenomenon on a larger scale in the Democratic race for the Presidential nomination. One person in that race firmly believes (based on her consistent behavior) that making negative claims about her opponent raises her up as it lowers or diminishes him. The other doesn't do this as much. And look at the numbers. The voting public is TIRED of people who believe that putting someone else down and claiming something negative about them raises them up and supports their side. They are rejecting it in large numbers and moving to the side of the person who mainly sticks to positivity. As I suggested in an earlier post on this same subject, you could learn a lot from Deepak Chopra. I guess I'm extending that by suggesting that you could learn a lot from Barack Obama. You're too smart, and too good a person to stay stuck in the rut of this They're liars!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita
do.rflex wrote: Here's a beautiful 8 min video clip of Shri Guru Gita sung by Kumuda (Sharon Janis) Kumuda became very familiar with the syllables and sentiments of this chanting prayer during her decade of monastic life in the Siddha Yoga ashram of Baba Muktananda and Gurumayi Chidvilasananda. Early every morning, the ashram residents and guests chanted this text as the main ingredient in a daily, hour-and-a-half devotional chanting session. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDmCl2sL4m8 very nice singing; here are the words, sansrit and english: http://www.pranakasha.com/guru_gita/verses_x-5.shtml she sings only first 10 verses (of 182 in this translation)
[FairfieldLife] French film mag's readers' Best Of 2007
With the Oscars looming, US film freaks might be interested in what the snobbish, effete, intellec- tual (that is to say, French) readers of Studio voted as their favorites for film year 2007. I find it an interesting pseudo-scientific study on the difference between French film freaks' sensibilities and what they value, compared to those of American film freaks. Favorite Films Of 2007: 1. La vie des autres (The Lives Of Others, German). I still have not seen this film, because my travels have not brought me upon a version of one with English subtitles. Sigh, alack. 2. La Môme (La vie en rose, French). Biopick about Edith Piaf...would the French like it? Duh. 3. Les chansons d'amour (Love Songs, French). This one is so French in the same way that some things are so gay. It's a musical in the same pop opera tradition as The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, and it's about a romantic threesome to boot. What ees not to like about that, alors! 4. La nuit nous appartient (We Own The Night, USA). I'll admit it...I'm a film freak and I had never even *heard* of this film before seeing it on this list. Joaquin Phoenix, Robert Duvall, Eva Mendes, Mark Wahlberg...great cast. Can't wait to see it. 5. Les promesses de l'ombre (Eastern Promises, USA). Ok, finally one I've seen and can comment on. Dark, dark film, in the way that only David Cronenberg can make a dark, dark film. But at the same time almost uplifting and hope-inspiring in its darkness, the polar opposite of the dark, dark and unrelenting There Will Be Blood. 6. Zodiac (USA). Saw it, wasn't knocked out. In fact, it barely held my attention. The French love it. Go figure. 7. Ratatouille (USA). A way cool rat becomes a Cordon Bleu chef in Paris. Again, What ees not to like about that, eh? But I agree with the French...it belongs in the Top Ten for the year. 8. Persepolis (French/Iranian). Marjane Satrapi's wonderful animated autobiography of growing up in Iran. Highly recommended. 9. Le Scaphandre et le papillion (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, French). The true story of Elle editor Jean-Dominique Bauby whose stroke has left only his left eye not paralyzed, but who has a better life than most of us. 10. De l'autre coté (The Other Side, Canada). Don't know it. A thriller. Sounds interesting. Anyway, I just found this list fascinating as a list of favorites compiled by serious French film freaks. Com- pare and contrast to the films that Americans considered their favorites of the year as you watch the Oscars. Other favorite of the year lists of interest from the same mag, ranked in each category in order of votes: Foreign Actresses 1. Cate Blanchett 2. Julie Christie 3. Angelina Jolie 4. Naomi Watts 5. Kate Winslet Foreign Actors 1. Viggo Mortensen 2. Matt Damon 3. Joaquin Phoenix 4. Ulirich Muhe 5. James McAvoy Foreign Directors 1. David Cronenberg 2. F.H. von Dunnersmarck 3. James Gray 4. Clint Eastwood 5. Quentin Tarantino Go figure, alors!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's even more of Allen Ginsberg to love...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uncool, shemp. Stuff like that could get FFL classified as an adult group. I'm deleting that from the archives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] Third, what is wrong with either you or he believing this? He is permitted to believe anything he wants, as are you. You'll notice that Chopra (as far as I know) does NOT go out of his way the way you do to trash anyone who doesn't believe that Maharishi is enlightened. He just presents what he believes, and allows others to believe what they believe. I'm suggesting that you could learn from his example. I never said there was anything wrong with Chopra believing or disbelieving things. I'm merely wondering why you assume he's telling the truth. Because it rings true, with everything I know about Maharishi from first-hand experience, with everything I know about the TM movement from first-hand experience, and with everything I know about spiritual groups in general from first- and many-hand experience. However, we *also* know without question that Chopra has trouble getting his facts straight. And of course Chopra knows the same things you do about the TM movement from first-hand experience, so it wouldn't be difficult for him to craft a tale that rings true for others who have been in the movement. snip King Tony has a...uh...shaky relationship with reality and doesn't like to be told things that challenge that notion of reality (Duh!). In the first place, *nobody* likes to be told things that challenge their notion of reality. *You* don't like it that Lawson is challenging yours by wondering why you assume Chopra was telling the truth. In the second place, here's the key bit: Deepak said that upon hearing this, Tony was in shock and said to him 'I don't believe a word of this'. This is already third-hand, for starters. We have no way of knowing that this is precisely what Chopra said; and even less certainty that this is precisely what King Tony said to Chopra. Change a couple of words, and it looks a whole lot different. Maybe King Tony said, I *can't* believe a word of this. Or even, I just can't believe this. We all say things like this when we hear something that rocks our sense of how things are, even if we have no reason to suspect it's not the truth. If King Tony was in shock, moreover, it suggests he *wasn't* in denial at all. People who are really in denial don't go into shock. That in shock phrase, if that's what Chopra actually used, may be a tell that Chopra's account of what King Tony said was shaded to make it sound as though King Tony thought Chopra was lying. This is the kind of thing you do here all the time, by the way, shading what someone else has said to make it sound the way you want it to. You've just been doing it to Lawson, and you've done it to me more times than I can count. It's your standard M.O. Here's an example: And on that basis you've been trying to portray Chopra as a LIAR? Think this through, dude. That isn't what Lawson was doing. Lawson was pointing out that you hadn't even considered the possibility that Chopra wasn't telling the exact truth; you eagerly swallowed whole what Chopra is said to have said King Tony said *because you want to believe it*. snip That behavior is consistent enough that I am not the only person here who has noticed that it falls into a PATTERN. That pattern is to react strongly to many statements critical of Maharishi or the TMO by spouting the TM Party Line (which is understand- able, given the nature of the TMO with regard to promoting that Party Line as a near-catechism des- cription of reality). Actually Lawson doesn't do this that much. More often, he gives his *own* view of whatever has been said. In fact, most of the time the critical statements on this forum don't have anything to do with the TMO party line one way or another, so spouting the party line would be irrelevant. What Lawson does (and what I do) a lot is simply to present alternative ways of understanding whatever the facts may be, because the critics here tend to portray the facts in the most negative possible way when there are other, less negative, perfectly reasonable ways of seeing them. The point isn't even to insist that the more positive ways of seeing things are the *correct* ones, merely that the completely negative ways aren't the only possibilities. But the OTHER part of the pattern is to actively imply or state that the critic himself is LYING, or is otherwise untrust- worthy. Actually Lawson rarely accuses someone of lying. And he doesn't even tend to portray people as untrustworthy *unless they have already shown themselves to be untrustworthy*. This certainly applies to Chopra. In other words, you tend react to any belief or statement that challenges the dogma as if it is some kind of attack, one that needs to be met with a counterattack.
[FairfieldLife] Re: benefits of hyaluronic acid (HA).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---Thanks, just received my shipment of 2 vials of 100% pure HA yesterday, for an Arizona retailer. It's non-prescription. Various products are on the market with counterclaims on the Fine, but is it a natural substance and how is it produced ? Jeez, does every bit of info that enters your mind have to be spoon-fed to you by someone else? If you'd explored one of the websites provided, you'd have seen this: http://www.easysource.com/ha/synth7.htm Synthovial 7 is hyaluronic acid that comes from an extracellular substance produced by a bacteria. There are no animal derivatives. Since HA is native to the human body, and our product is not derived from animal tissue, hypersensitivity is not a concern. There are no known side effects.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak
On Feb 23, 2008, at 4:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I'm saying all this because it's in the wind these days. We're seeing the same phenomenon on a larger scale in the Democratic race for the Presidential nomination. One person in that race firmly believes (based on her consistent behavior) that making negative claims about her opponent raises her up as it lowers or diminishes him. The other doesn't do this as much. And look at the numbers. The voting public is TIRED of people who believe that putting someone else down and claiming something negative about them raises them up and supports their side. They are rejecting it in large numbers and moving to the side of the person who mainly sticks to positivity. Either that or they're simply getting tired of HIllary--I know I sure am. I'm really interested to know Judy's take on what's been happening. Judy, if the stakes were reversed at this point, wouldn't you feel Obama should be quitting and throwing his support to Hillary right about now? And, FWIW, at least Lawson's posts have been light years better than they were before. Thank you Lawson. All hail Spare! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: French film mag's readers' Best Of 2007
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the Oscars looming, US film freaks might be interested in what the snobbish, effete, intellec- tual (that is to say, French) readers of Studio voted as their favorites for film year 2007. I find it an interesting pseudo-scientific study on the difference between French film freaks' sensibilities and what they value, compared to those of American film freaks. Favorite Films Of 2007: 1. La vie des autres (The Lives Of Others, German). I still have not seen this film, because my travels have not brought me upon a version of one with English subtitles. Sigh, alack. I am pleasantly surprised. Why? Because the French, in their snobbishness and elitism, are usually sentimental and biased towards communism. And, of course, The Lives of Others rips yet another ass-hole into the STASI of the former East Germany. Of course, France has redeemed itself before in this regard by giving to the world the book The Black Book of Communism written by 5 French intellectuals (and, mostly, former Leftists). 2. La Môme (La vie en rose, French). Biopick about Edith Piaf...would the French like it? Duh. Incredible movie, even more incredible performance by Marion Cotillard. But doesn't touch my Juno. 3. Les chansons d'amour (Love Songs, French). This one is so French in the same way that some things are so gay. It's a musical in the same pop opera tradition as The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, and it's about a romantic threesome to boot. What ees not to like about that, alors! Did not see. 4. La nuit nous appartient (We Own The Night, USA). I'll admit it...I'm a film freak and I had never even *heard* of this film before seeing it on this list. Joaquin Phoenix, Robert Duvall, Eva Mendes, Mark Wahlberg...great cast. Can't wait to see it. Did not see or hear about. And with a cast like that? Geez, that makes me suspect that it is lousy simply because of these facts AND the French like it. When things are off-kilter and the French like it, something's not right. 5. Les promesses de l'ombre (Eastern Promises, USA). Ok, finally one I've seen and can comment on. Dark, dark film, in the way that only David Cronenberg can make a dark, dark film. But at the same time almost uplifting and hope-inspiring in its darkness, the polar opposite of the dark, dark and unrelenting There Will Be Blood. I'm a big fan of Cronenberg but I wasn't crazy about either this film or Viggo Mortensen's performance. But I saw it on the small screen on DVD and perhaps I needed to see it in the theatre. 6. Zodiac (USA). Saw it, wasn't knocked out. In fact, it barely held my attention. The French love it. Go figure. I liked this movie. 7. Ratatouille (USA). A way cool rat becomes a Cordon Bleu chef in Paris. Again, What ees not to like about that, eh? But I agree with the French...it belongs in the Top Ten for the year. Didn't see it. 8. Persepolis (French/Iranian). Marjane Satrapi's wonderful animated autobiography of growing up in Iran. Highly recommended. didn't see it. 9. Le Scaphandre et le papillion (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, French). The true story of Elle editor Jean-Dominique Bauby whose stroke has left only his left eye not paralyzed, but who has a better life than most of us. Won't see it. I saw the horrible Away from her this year; Johnny got his gun back in the '70s; and My Left Foot a few decades ago. I've had my fill in this lifetime of movies in which the protagonist is profoundly handicapped. Enough already. 10. De l'autre coté (The Other Side, Canada). Don't know it. A thriller. Sounds interesting. Never heard of it. Anyway, I just found this list fascinating as a list of favorites compiled by serious French film freaks. Com- pare and contrast to the films that Americans considered their favorites of the year as you watch the Oscars. Other favorite of the year lists of interest from the same mag, ranked in each category in order of votes: Foreign Actresses 1. Cate Blanchett 2. Julie Christie 3. Angelina Jolie 4. Naomi Watts 5. Kate Winslet Where the fuck is Ellen Page, my darling Juno? She better win or the will be blood. Foreign Actors 1. Viggo Mortensen 2. Matt Damon 3. Joaquin Phoenix 4. Ulirich Muhe 5. James McAvoy Ulrich Muhe is there for sentimental Peter-Finch-like reasons but he did give a great performance. Where the fuck is Daniel Day-Lewis? Foreign Directors 1. David Cronenberg 2. F.H. von Dunnersmarck 3. James Gray 4. Clint Eastwood 5. Quentin Tarantino Where the fuck is Ivan Reitman for Juno? I am pleasantly surprised to see Tarantino who must be there for Death Proof whose movie was, unfortunately, first saddled with Robert Rodrigues' horrible movie for the Grindhouse release. But I've now seen Death Proof in its singular extended
[FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington
I am a long time meditator and just subscribed to this group. What kind of group is this? Pro TM, anti TM,a little of both. A reflection of the town meditators. Uncensored talk. I have a flood of emails to my inbox now and find some of the emails interesting about the spiritual but am deciding if I should unsubscribe. Could I have an option of being a member and not having the emails to my inbox? Thanks, Steve
[FairfieldLife] Re: benefits of hyaluronic acid (HA).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---Thanks, just received my shipment of 2 vials of 100% pure HA yesterday, for an Arizona retailer. It's non-prescription. Various products are on the market with counterclaims on the Fine, but is it a natural substance and how is it produced ? Nablus, go participate in some urine therapy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's even more of Allen Ginsberg to love...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Uncool, shemp. Stuff like that could get FFL classified as an adult group. I'm deleting that from the archives. Actually, it was very cool. Most adults would have snickered appropriately. But I suppose that the incidents of the past where someone actually did post some offensive pornography on this site made it so that we can't take the chance anymore. So I kind of understand why Alex deleted it. For anyone wondering what Alex is referring to, I posted a photo of a naked Allen Ginsberg into the thread of his poem Howl. Allen would have loved what I did.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Michael Morgan : My trip to India (first hand account)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm also a fan of the rule of thumb. Extra credit for anyone who knows where that phrase comes from! Not from where you think it does. http://www.debunker.com/texts/ruleofthumb.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
Im' afraid. Is it just me? Are all the fears of American group consciousness going to mount to some sort of Maharishi Effect and insure that Obama gets killed thereby? Sigh...I'm just sayin'! I feel guilty -- how's that for a delusion of grandeur? Here's the package that I see is all set and ready to go for this event: the interment camps already built around the USA, cops with new technology to handle large crowds (zap 'em with the ray guns, make them all fall down and puke and scream, then handcuff 'em,) the Blackwater Privatized Republican Army, and the Patriot Act. It's all there, right? Doesn't matter if the camps are filled with Arabs, Mexicans or, in rioting They killed Barack African Americans, we'd have a civil war on our hands, right? I'm afraid. Yeah, I need a checking, but by my estimate, I'll need another 29 years of four hours a day to get my nervous system to the point where such a fear is seen clearly enough to snuff it. Obama's security lapse at his last big venue speaks to the above, right? It was in Dallas for gawdsake. If I were a Black American (obviously I cannot imagine such a scenario without being a privileged white personality-with-no-clue, but go with me here) what would I do if Obama gets killed? How could I not think that it is simply the last straw, and that whites will never be anything but posers who are racists to the bone? How could I not think that if it is never going to change, then let's apply some of the tactics that the populations of occupied countries have taught us? I lived through the Detroit riots, I know how every white hunter was counting his deer rifles and ammo in case, you know Believe me, it was primal, ugly, insane, and really happening. If the world has learned anything, when the underdog has finally been whipped so hard that he begins to bite back, he won't play fair, and there'll be collateral damages in every neighborhood. I think if Obama get killed, then the gloves come off -- no more shuffling ex-slaves getting along to get along, no more waiting for our black representatives in Congress to pass good laws, no more fearing what will happen if they send the military into our neighborhoods, no more nothing, nope, no how -- time to kick some ass and keep kicking it for the next 200 years of payback's-a-bitch-for-whitey. There's about 10 million black teens out there, and like all good Americans, they have VIBRANT PASSION OF YOUTH and more than one gun apiece, 9mm, jacketed ammo, Glock-o-uzzimatics donchaknow, and if The Black Christ gets it, so will a lot of others -- starting with decent Black Folks in the ghettos where the riots will start. Here's the big tell: the Republicans are letting their attack dogs hit McCain hard. Rush openly hates McCain for instance. Why? Well, my fears say: They have got a plan we know not of. Another 9-11 would do, but riots in every big city would do the trick too. Blam, Martial Law, suspension of the vote, and jack boots on every corner -- and every night, gunfire across the land. Please, someone talk me out of this! Edg PS -- Consider that the stats below show America -- white fear based America -- to ALREADY be occupied by possible enemy combatants. USA Population, 299,398,484 Persons under 18 years old, 24.6% White persons, 80.1% Black persons, 12.8% American Indian and Alaska Native persons, 1.0% Asian persons, 4.4% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander,0.2% Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, 14.8% White persons not Hispanic, 66.4% Foreign born persons, 11.1% Language other than English spoken at home, 17.9% , --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer Fri Feb 22, 5:18 PM ET NEW YORK - For many black Americans, it's a conversation they find hard to avoid, revisiting old fears in the light of bright new hopes. ADVERTISEMENT adx_U_30664=;adx_D_30664=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14tcs4q43/M=633853.12015927.12446048.1414694/D=news/S=8903239:LREC/_ylt=AneuZP7.9lNl4agvYV4OugRH2ocA/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1203767042/L=o9L1SUWTVvqylHbpR755lhRrQ7dBeke_6uIAA6v2/B=NYTVBNj8ek8-/J=1203759842253247/A=5117002/R=0/*;adx_I_30664=;; if(c.indexOf(adx_fc_30664)==0)eval(c) if(window.yzq_d==null)window.yzq_d=new Object(); window.yzq_d['NYTVBNj8ek8-']='U=13bla2dku%2fN%3dNYTVBNj8ek8-%2fC%3d633853.12015927.12446048.1414694%2fD%3dLREC%2fB%3d5117002'; They watch with wonder as Barack Obama moves ever closer to becoming America's first black president. And they ask themselves, their family, their friends: Is he at risk? Will he be safe? There is, of course, no sure answer. But interviews with blacks across the country, prominent and otherwise, suggest that lingering worries are outweighed by enthusiasm and determination. You can't have lived through the civil rights movement and know something about the history of African-Americans in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, itsstevemartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a long time meditator and just subscribed to this group. What kind of group is this? Pro TM, anti TM,a little of both. A reflection of the town meditators. Uncensored talk. I have a flood of emails to my inbox now and find some of the emails interesting about the spiritual but am deciding if I should unsubscribe. Could I have an option of being a member and not having the emails to my inbox? Thanks, Steve Yes...it will be a pain in the ass if you continue with the emails-in- your-inbox option. You can choose to just see them, as I do, on the FFL Yahoo! group page (go into your personal profile, I think, and change the option). Pro TM, anti TM, a little of both pretty much sums this group up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mostly lurking with a question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, netineti3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says the same thing...Only through devotion can one gain liberation. You ought to read MMY's Science of Being and Art of Living and his Gita translation and commentary sometime. He has a great deal to say about the role of devotion in gaining liberation. He says once one has achieved the first stage of enlightenment, cosmic consciousness, devotion begins to develop naturally and is the engine by which one progresses to God consciousness and ultimately to Unity consciousness, final liberation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak
On Feb 23, 2008, at 9:31 AM, authfriend wrote: But as long as those three big states are hanging in the balance, and as long as the delegate count and the national polls don't show an overwhelming lead for Obama, I think she should stick it out. Great analysis--thanks Judy. I don't think either of them is going to have much trouble wiping McCain out, so that just isn't a consideration at this point. Sure hope you're right. At least one reason (among many) I want to see Obama win the nom is that during the debates nothing could make the positions of the 2 parties clearer than to see the oldest candidate ever to run--tired, cranky--contrasted with one of the youngest--articulate, poised and hopefully with some good policy ideas. It should become abundantly clear at that point, again, how the Repugs represent nothing but looking backwards and hanging onto the past, beyond all reason. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer Fri Feb 22, 5:18 PM ET NEW YORK - For many black Americans, it's a conversation they find hard to avoid, revisiting old fears in the light of bright new hopes. Short the SP, go long on Smith and Wesson. if(window.yzq_d==null)window.yzq_d=new Object(); window.yzq_d ['NYTVBNj8ek8-']='U=13bla2dku%2fN%3dNYTVBNj8ek8-%2fC% 3d633853.12015927.12446048.1414694%2fD%3dLREC%2fB%3d5117002'; They watch with wonder as Barack Obama moves ever closer to becoming America's first black president. And they ask themselves, their family, their friends: Is he at risk? Will he be safe? There is, of course, no sure answer. But interviews with blacks across the country, prominent and otherwise, suggest that lingering worries are outweighed by enthusiasm and determination. You can't have lived through the civil rights movement and know something about the history of African-Americans in this country and not be a little concerned, said Edna Medford, a history professor at Washington's Howard University. But African-Americans are more concerned that Obama get the opportunity to do the best he can, she added. And if he wins, most of us believe the country would do for him what it would do for any president, that he will be as well protected as any of them. Clyde Barrett, 66, a longtime U.S. Labor Department employee now retired in Tampa, Fla., says he often hears expressions of concern for Obama's safety. One young acquaintance, Barrett said, declared he wouldn't even vote for Obama for fear of exposing him to more danger. To me that's a cop-out, where you can't take a stand and support someone because you fear for his safety, Barrett said. I don't have any apprehension ... We've got to go ahead and persevere. For many older blacks, the barometer for gauging hopes and fears is the 1968 assassination of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. But concern about Obama's safety transcends racial lines. He has white supporters who see him as an inspiring, youthful advocate of change in the mold of Robert F. Kennedy, and they are mindful of Kennedy's assassination just two months after King's. Pam Hart, the principal of a multiracial elementary school in the Philadelphia suburb of Cheltenham, said she is struck by the contrast between some of the black students there, innocently excited about Obama's candidacy, and the more anxious perspective of older people who lived through the violence of the 1960s. My 70-year-old aunt every time I call her, she says she's really afraid Obama is going to be assassinated. She is so worried that history will repeat itself, said Hart, who is 40. I understand why she's afraid, but I feel we live in a different world now. Bruce Gordon, a New York-based business leader and former president of the NAACP, also feels the climate has changed dramatically as evidenced by the strong nationwide support that Obama is receiving from whites as well as blacks. Gordon felt differently back in the mid-1990s, when Gen. Colin Powell was weighing a run for the presidency, and Powell's wife, Alma, was among those voicing concern about his safety. When Powell decided not to run, I said to myself, 'Good,' because I thought someone would kill him, Gordon recalled. This time, I think that if, out of fear, we keep our most talented people from running for office, it will never happen. Yes, there's a risk, but I would never want it to be in the way, Gordon added. In running, Barack Obama has to accept the fact that he faces a risk. And yes, we pray for him. Obama received Secret Service protection last May the earliest ever for any presidential candidate. At the time, federal officials said they were not aware of any direct threats to Obama, but Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin who was among those recommending the Secret Service deployment acknowledged receiving information, some with racial overtones, that made him concerned for Obama's safety. Obama's campaign, invited this week to comment on the concerns felt by many blacks, referred to a speech given by the candidate's wife, Michelle, to a mostly black audience in South Carolina last fall. I know people care about Barack and our family. I know people want to protect us and themselves from disappointment, she said, before urging people to cast fear aside. If you're willing to heed Coretta Scott King's words and not be afraid of the future ... there's no challenge we can't overcome, she said. Obama himself, while acknowledging that his family and friends are concerned about his safety, has drawn a contrast with King. He didn't have Secret Service protection, Obama told TV host Tavis Smiley last fall. I can't even comprehend the degree of courage that was required, and look what he did. Sherry
[FairfieldLife] The Maharishi, the TMO and women
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Transcendental_meditation_-_Criticis\ ms_and_controversies/id/2085021 This website, which is talking about controversies and TM, includes the following: Transcendental meditation - Sexism and the TM organization According to historian Stanley Wolpert (A New History of India, sixth edition, Oxford University Press: 2000), ancient Vedic society was undeniably patriarchal, and this characteristic is reflected in the present structure of the TM organization. Although women are not barred from becoming teachers of TM, they are rarely seen in positions of political leadership, especially at the highest and most visible level of the organization. Evidence of discrimination against women can be seen in the failure to include women as ministers when Maharishi proclaimed his Global Country of World Peace (all of the 40 appointed ministers were men) and in the failure to include female spokespersons in the discussions that accompany Maharishi's weekly televised press conferences. This is because Maharishi has outlined three acceptable paths forwomen in society: 1) marriage and motherhood, 2) monastic celibacy (inhis Mother Divine program), and 3) engagement in a life-supportingprofession or occupation that does not strain the allegedly delicatenervous system of female physiology. Also, in live and televisedpresentations sponsored by the TM organization, females arepatronizingly referred to as ladies (not women) while men arecalled men (not gentlemen). TM apologists point out that evenmarried women are called ladies as a sign of respect and married menare at other occasions called gentlemen also as a sign of respect, butfail to appreciate that gender bias is inherent in the organization'sfailure to consistently apply the corresponding term gentlemen to males. Over the years, the TM organization has implemented a deliberate policy of segregating the sexes in its parochial schools, coursefacilities, assemblies, etc., and in doing so, has placed itselfoutside the mainstream of American life. I am interested in knowing if the claim that MMY outlined three acceptable paths for women is correct and if anyone has a source for that claim.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 23, 2008, at 4:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I'm saying all this because it's in the wind these days. We're seeing the same phenomenon on a larger scale in the Democratic race for the Presidential nomination. One person in that race firmly believes (based on her consistent behavior) that making negative claims about her opponent raises her up as it lowers or diminishes him. The other doesn't do this as much. And look at the numbers. The voting public is TIRED of people who believe that putting someone else down and claiming something negative about them raises them up and supports their side. They are rejecting it in large numbers and moving to the side of the person who mainly sticks to positivity. Either that or they're simply getting tired of HIllary-- I know I sure am. It's a combination of factors. Hillary has been *portrayed* as much more negative than she actually is, and Obama has been portrayed as much more saintly than *he* actually is. That's the media's preferred narrative, which Barry's obviously fallen for. Obama has a *huge* charisma advantage at a point when we're more than usually vulnerable to that kind of appeal, because we've been going through such utter crap for so long. Too many people, in my view, are responding to his charisma from a gut level and not really thinking things through. And the media is going along with it because it's *exciting*. Insurgencies are always exciting; they take on lives of their own that have little to do with substance. Plus which, Hillary is at a huge *disadvantage* because of Hillary Derangement Syndrome, the totally irrational hatred many people--including the media-- have for her. From what I've been reading from the various pundits and commentators, it appears to me that the ones who have managed to stay relatively sober about it all and have looked closely at the candidates' policies and abilities tend to favor Hillary. I haven't seen many pundits who favor Obama who champion him on that basis; it's all about hope and change and similarly nebulous stuff. I've already said my piece at some length about why I think she would do a better job in office, so I won't go into it again. I'm really interested to know Judy's take on what's been happening. Judy, if the stakes were reversed at this point, wouldn't you feel Obama should be quitting and throwing his support to Hillary right about now? Gee, that's really hard for me to say. If I were supporting Hillary in that situation, I suspect I'd be tempted to make that case. I'd sure *wish* he would quit. If I were for Obama, I'd want him to stay in through Texas/Ohio/Pennsylvania. But I can't really look at it objectively; and I'm no expert on campaigns. The whole delegate-allocation business is such a mess it makes me want to go take a nap. Different experts, presumably objective ones, say different things about whether it's possible at this point for Hillary to pull off a win. Clearly it's unlikely--but stranger things have happened. I *don't* think she'll take the fight to the convention unless the two are still dead even by that time. I certainly hope she doesn't, and I don't think she'd get anywhere if she tried to manipulate things. But as long as those three big states are hanging in the balance, and as long as the delegate count and the national polls don't show an overwhelming lead for Obama, I think she should stick it out. I don't think either of them is going to have much trouble wiping McCain out, so that just isn't a consideration at this point. And, FWIW, at least Lawson's posts have been light years better than they were before. Thank you Lawson. All hail Spare! Amen to that, sister. Lawson's a good guy and one of the smartest people I know. His perspective and knowledge is sorely needed here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi, the TMO and women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transcendental meditation - Sexism and the TM organization . . . This is because Maharishi has outlined three acceptable paths for women in society: 1) marriage and motherhood, 2) monastic celibacy (in his Mother Divine program), and 3) engagement in a life-supporting profession or occupation that does not strain the allegedly delicate nervous system of female physiology. . . . I am interested in knowing if the claim that MMY outlined three acceptable paths for women is correct and if anyone has a source for that claim. Four, actually, if you count the women who used to visit him in his room. :-) Although to be charitable, he might have considered that to fall under path number three. More seriously, I've certainly heard lectures in which he said essentially this, if not in those exact words. I remember the day he told a female friend of mine who had just gotten her second Ph.D. that education was good, because it would make her a better conversationalist for her hus- band, when she found one. She left in disgust. Of the spiritual organizations I've visited or seen first-hand, I would have to say that only the Yogi Bhajan Sikhs and some Orthodox Jewish communities have struck me as more sexist than the TMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi, the TMO and women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I am interested in knowing if the claim that MMY outlined three acceptable paths for women is correct and if anyone has a source for that claim. Yes, it is correct. Source and citation follow. The three attributes of woman, according to the 3rd sloka of the 7th mandala of Rg Veda are: 1) Barefoot; 2) Pregnant; 3) Chained to the stove. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, in his guise as country singer/songwriter Michael J. Farrad, brought the above interpretation of the Vedas to the West here: http://tinyurl.com/2cczk7
[FairfieldLife] If you liked Iraq, you'll LOVE Hillary...
She's a shoot first, ask questions later kinda gal. Just ask the Serbs...
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Michael Morgan : My trip to India (first hand account)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I'm also a fan of the rule of thumb. Extra credit for anyone who knows where that phrase comes from! Not from where you think it does. http://www.debunker.com/texts/ruleofthumb.html ...reading the above link makes me think that we're maybe about 27 years ahead of the Muslims in this regard...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington
Here's how it is. This is like the ultimate TM nerd group. It's pretty hysterical. If you can take a bunch of meditation and new age wired pseudointellectuals all gabbing at once then you should fit right in. Otherwise you should change your Yahoo Group options at their website. - Original Message - From: itsstevemartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington I am a long time meditator and just subscribed to this group. What kind of group is this? Pro TM, anti TM,a little of both. A reflection of the town meditators. Uncensored talk. I have a flood of emails to my inbox now and find some of the emails interesting about the spiritual but am deciding if I should unsubscribe. Could I have an option of being a member and not having the emails to my inbox? Thanks, Steve To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Siddha caught on video flying
Jaya TV news about a Siddhar seen flying in the air. The details of the incident copied below the URL. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EzBAmals2Wc The clipping what we are seeing is recorded in Thiruannamalai by a electrician of TNEB, while his routine work on girilvalam* track, the great miracle is one siddhar (Siddhars are saints in India, mostly of the Saivaite denomination in Tamil Nadu) walking in the air when the siddhar realized some one is taking video of him he started flying and disappeared in the air, hara hara mahadeva ... The clipping was actually taken on 20th February 2008 around 3-4 PM IST and was telecasted on JAYA TV a tamil television channel on 21st February 2008 Picture quality is low as it was recorded with the help of the mobile phone *- The Significance of Girivalam (Circumambulation) In most of the holy places the Deity is found atop the hill. But here the Holy hill itself is the Deity (Lord Annamalaiyar) and is worshipped. Arunam means sun and denotes the red colour of fire. Asalam means Giri or malai (mountain). Thus Arunachalam means the HOly hill which is rd in colour. The Holy hill is 2668 fi. high. The Annamalai Hill was Agni (fire) during Kirthayugam, was Manikkam (Emerad) during Threthayugam, was Pon (Gold) during Dwaparayugam and rock during Kaliyugam. There are eight lingams located at the eight directions and provides an octagonal structure to Thiruvannamalai Town. The eight lingams are: Indra Lingam, Agni Lingam, Yama Lingam, Niruthi Lingam, Varuna Lingam, Vayu Lingam, Kubera Lingam and Esanya Lingam. The Adi Annamalai Temple glorified in Dhevaram is located on this path. The circumambulation path is 14 kilometres. History has it that even today a number of siddhars are living on the hill. It is auspicious to perform Girilvalam during every Full moon day which would do immense good. It is because during Full Moon Day siddhars movement would be there and the whole atmosphere would be filled with perfumes of herbal plants. This will provide peace of mind and good health to body. It is a proven fact that on every Full moon day lakhs of devotees circumambulate the Hill and get all benefits by praying to Lord Annamalaiyar
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Another 9-11 would do, but riots in every big city would do the trick too. Blam, Martial Law, suspension of the vote, and jack boots on every corner -- and every night, gunfire across the land. Please, someone talk me out of this! No point in even trying. You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington
You can change options here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join Might take a few days for yahoo to actually stop sending messages. --- itsstevemartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a long time meditator and just subscribed to this group. What kind of group is this? Pro TM, anti TM,a little of both. A reflection of the town meditators. Uncensored talk. I have a flood of emails to my inbox now and find some of the emails interesting about the spiritual but am deciding if I should unsubscribe. Could I have an option of being a member and not having the emails to my inbox? Thanks, Steve To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long ago did this occur Rick? Was it expensive? Did many people comply? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak Did you go thru with the recertification process Rick? No. I was out of the TMO by that time. From what little I know it sounds insulting to ask people to do that who have initiated thousands. Was it done as akin to a loyalty test? Seemed like it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha caught on video flying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jaya TV news about a Siddhar seen flying in the air. The details of the incident copied below the URL. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EzBAmals2Wc This youtube video that Vaj links to of someone allegedly flying is about as clear as a photo I saw in Life Magazine about 30 years ago of the alleged 2nd shooter on the Grassy Knoll. If you held the magazine page about 20 feet away from you, closed one eye, turned the lights off, and banged yourself really hard across the side of your head then, yes, you would have seen a photo of the second shooter. But that's not to say that this youtube video doesn't reveal something really astounding and incredible. There is, indeed, a real miracle recorded in it. But you have to look for it: At the 00:19 second mark of the video, as the camera sweeps across the landscape of the city, you notice a structure that looks very much like Maharishi's Tower of Invincibility. That a Tower of Invincibility would actually be built, now THAT'S a miracle... The clipping what we are seeing is recorded in Thiruannamalai by a electrician of TNEB, while his routine work on girilvalam* track, the great miracle is one siddhar (Siddhars are saints in India, mostly of the Saivaite denomination in Tamil Nadu) walking in the air when the siddhar realized some one is taking video of him he started flying and disappeared in the air, hara hara mahadeva ... The clipping was actually taken on 20th February 2008 around 3-4 PM IST and was telecasted on JAYA TV a tamil television channel on 21st February 2008 Picture quality is low as it was recorded with the help of the mobile phone *- The Significance of Girivalam (Circumambulation) In most of the holy places the Deity is found atop the hill. But here the Holy hill itself is the Deity (Lord Annamalaiyar) and is worshipped. Arunam means sun and denotes the red colour of fire. Asalam means Giri or malai (mountain). Thus Arunachalam means the HOly hill which is rd in colour. The Holy hill is 2668 fi. high. The Annamalai Hill was Agni (fire) during Kirthayugam, was Manikkam (Emerad) during Threthayugam, was Pon (Gold) during Dwaparayugam and rock during Kaliyugam. There are eight lingams located at the eight directions and provides an octagonal structure to Thiruvannamalai Town. The eight lingams are: Indra Lingam, Agni Lingam, Yama Lingam, Niruthi Lingam, Varuna Lingam, Vayu Lingam, Kubera Lingam and Esanya Lingam. The Adi Annamalai Temple glorified in Dhevaram is located on this path. The circumambulation path is 14 kilometres. History has it that even today a number of siddhars are living on the hill. It is auspicious to perform Girilvalam during every Full moon day which would do immense good. It is because during Full Moon Day siddhars movement would be there and the whole atmosphere would be filled with perfumes of herbal plants. This will provide peace of mind and good health to body. It is a proven fact that on every Full moon day lakhs of devotees circumambulate the Hill and get all benefits by praying to Lord Annamalaiyar
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Monitors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Monitors I received a call at my work a year or two ago that I found strange. The caller said he was calling on behalf of the local TM center. Might have mentioned he was purusha. He had one of those affected voices that I always found somewhat troubling. Kinda like the lead in on the old 70's tapes. The dawning of the ge of Eeeennnlightenment. Otherworldly. He asked me a series of questions about my involvement with The Movement. I explained that I really didn't have a very high opinion of the Movement and what I had seen of national leaders such as Bevan and Haglin was not very positive. Might have even gone so far as to refer to Bevan as pompous and his immensity. Oops. Referred to liking the people running the local center very much but felt the Movement was flakey, disorganized, inefficient, and at the root of why they were not more successful. I had not had much contact with the center since I was very put off when they wanted me to sign legal documents helping create the Natural Law Party entity in our state. Explaining that I still valued the teachings I had received and continued my practice then bid him a good day, wished him good luck and good bowling. It was clear he was making notes, perhaps adding to a file. At any time during this conversation did you have the impulse to ask the guy who he thought he was asking all these questions, and hang up on him? Most definitely! That impulse was strong. My nature is not to suffer fools gladly. Pitta ya know. He caught me flat footed in a work mindset and once I got a feeling for where he was going, my wish was to let him run and see how big an idiot he really was.all my expectations were exceeded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Monitors
Tom's little anecdote recounted below is the reason I post anonymously. I haven't been on a TM course in a decade or so but I always entertain the fantasy of going back on a course at some point. I have had really incredible experiences on courses and want to have that option available to me. Plus I have a profound fear of rejection. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received a call at my work a year or two ago that I found strange. The caller said he was calling on behalf of the local TM center. Might have mentioned he was purusha. He had one of those affected voices that I always found somewhat troubling. Kinda like the lead in on the old 70's tapes. The dawning of the ge of Eeeennnlightenment. Otherworldly. He asked me a series of questions about my involvement with The Movement. I explained that I really didn't have a very high opinion of the Movement and what I had seen of national leaders such as Bevan and Haglin was not very positive. Might have even gone so far as to refer to Bevan as pompous and his immensity. Oops. Referred to liking the people running the local center very much but felt the Movement was flakey, disorganized, inefficient, and at the root of why they were not more successful. I had not had much contact with the center since I was very put off when they wanted me to sign legal documents helping create the Natural Law Party entity in our state. Explaining that I still valued the teachings I had received and continued my practice then bid him a good day, wished him good luck and good bowling. It was clear he was making notes, perhaps adding to a file. I later wondered what would happen if I ever visited Fairfield again and tried to obtain a badge for the dome. A strong feeling was in my gut as to the outcome. Didn't dwell on it long as it didn't bother me. Later still I discovered this forum. Reading early posts to get acquainted, I was not really surprised by the actions that seemed to give FFL its birth. Somehow I picked up on the vibe long ago and never really discussed any other experiences or visits with saints with movement folks. Never hid those things, just never brought up the subject. And so it goes. :You pay your money and you take your chance. Bruce Cockburn Azgrey --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: The idea that they have to wade through my nonsense here really is rich! I suppose they compile little lists of dissidents and read them to each other in quiet, quiet voices. Oh the pain of having to put their precious attention on such negativity! (I guess I do still have some movement authority issues after all these years...) No wonder so many people feel compelled to post anonymously here. Just cuz you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't really out to get you. I'm gunna guess that their purpose isn't to take suggestions from anyone here about anything. What with their knowingness and all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone in the know told me that MUM has 2-3 people assigned to monitor FFL. (Hi there, monitors!) What they do with the information I don't know. Probably depends on the information. At the very least, I presume they find it useful to know what info is hitting the streets. I've sometimes gotten the sense that certain constructive changes have taken place as a result of topics being discussed here. For instance, for years we were harping on the perennial fundraising to bring pundits who never came (although that discussion wasn't limited to FFL). Maybe that had something to do with their finally coming.
[FairfieldLife] Two kinds of devotion (Re: Mostly lurking with a question)
There's two issues here: devotion before and devotion after CC. Before CC, devotion is ego-filtered -- the PURE heart waves are there, but the ego is there taking credit for being a loving person as the waves travel to the Godhead. Maharishi: all action is done to the Self. It's silly, eh? I mean, the audience is clamoring for author , author, author! and some doofus (a personality) leaps up on the stage and takes a big bow and laps up the applause while the real author is across the street from the playhouse drunk on his ass waiting for the critics to savage the production. After CC, there's no person anymore, and the devotion is the manifest universe, as point value nervous system, loving the Self. After CC, no evolution or betterment of awareness of the immateriality of the Self is possible, but the senses and cognitions CAN evolve to ever more subtle levels of refinement until ALL THIS is seen, realized, experienced as Self. Before CC, devotion is voluntary, and the illusion of a doership creates lover-devotion-object. As such, devotion is a technique for dissolving the sense of doership; IT IS NOT an increasing of the amount of love-waves that constantly flow to the Godhead. After CC, there is no need to undo identification with a local (loco?) persona, but there is an incarnational blindness that post-CC devotion can begin to undo -- that blindness is not seeing God in the dead dog's 'other parts.' After CC, everything begins to move towards the jewel end of the spectrum of human perception. Things begin to glow with prana, until, (insert sound of one slapping one's forehead) IT'S ALL LIGHT happens in Unity. Then, only this IT has to go. That's what I was taught by Maharishi, and I've seen the same concepts in every religion's dogma. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, netineti3 no_reply@ wrote: snip In Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says the same thing...Only through devotion can one gain liberation. You ought to read MMY's Science of Being and Art of Living and his Gita translation and commentary sometime. He has a great deal to say about the role of devotion in gaining liberation. He says once one has achieved the first stage of enlightenment, cosmic consciousness, devotion begins to develop naturally and is the engine by which one progresses to God consciousness and ultimately to Unity consciousness, final liberation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever did become of Jerry Jarvis?
My limited experience was different. His sense of humor was strong and contagious. His lectures were long and detailed but he had a very powerful Gyani yogi thing going. I found him sincere, humble, and self effacing. Only one mans view I guess. To my knowledge, he had no official position with the movement at the time. I had been meditating maybe 14 years and had taken several advanced techniques and his words resonated well. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Jarvis came to my university while he and Maharishi were touring Boston and Cambridge, MA. He filled a 2000 seat lecture hall. He was giggling so much that most people, myself included, decided that surely this meditation was not for us. He was the guest speaker in Mount Eagle, TN on a residence course where the sidhas got together and did their rounds, not sanctioned by the sidhi administrators. Man, what a boring dude. Those were my only two encounters with Jerry and they were not positive. If someone else had given the intro lecture to TM, perhaps 1,500 people would have started. Out of the 2,000 assembled, not a single one decided that TM was serious. Jerry's giggling prevented me from starting TM for 3 years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
Thanks to all of you who have responded. I think I am going to like this group. I love your honesty. I have always felt out of place not quite Christian, not quite Hindu raised a southern Baptist and have attended the Episcopalian Church some though its not quite right either. All I know is I am a die hard TM'er with little or no contact over my 37 years of meditation and have had and continue to have the most amazing paradigm changing experiences with the technique. I am somewhat disenfranchised with the constraints of the TM Movement group but cannot deny the beauty and power of my own experiences. Steve Martin of Wilmington NC --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, itsstevemartin itsstevemartin@ wrote: I am a long time meditator and just subscribed to this group. What kind of group is this? Pro TM, anti TM,a little of both. A reflection of the town meditators. Uncensored talk. I have a flood of emails to my inbox now and find some of the emails interesting about the spiritual but am deciding if I should unsubscribe. Could I have an option of being a member and not having the emails to my inbox? Thanks, Steve Yes...it will be a pain in the ass if you continue with the emails-in- your-inbox option. You can choose to just see them, as I do, on the FFL Yahoo! group page (go into your personal profile, I think, and change the option). Pro TM, anti TM, a little of both pretty much sums this group up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action
Ah, Curtis, I'm not gay but reading your posts is giving me a man crush. just kiddin bahahaha --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My gut feeling is that if you describe MMY's behavior in detail to a number of psychologist and psychiatrists, they will guess that he had a personality disorder. So you don't think they would just join him in his self perception as being the most important human being in history? What if they heard Bevan telling them that he really really was, many many many many many many many times? How about then? Still no? This is going to be harder than I thought... This is the most troubling aspect of the cute little holy man picture of Maharishi, his extreme version of grandiosity. And it is also where the devotion of his followers cross over into a darker place of enabling a person with a real psychological problem. A person who might have needed help instead of a steady stream of ass kissing. Unless of course you want to give his own self perception another shot? You know, the perspective where EVERY other meditation teacher and spiritual leader was his inferior. Where he was uniqually saddled with the responsibility to spiritually regenerate all of mankind alone, and only he among ALL the spiritual representatives of the Vedic tradition in India knew the SPECIAL SECRETS. The ONLY authentic spiritual teacher, or at least the best of them ALL. The TOPPERMOST of the POPPERMOST, a wonder unto himself AMEN and Hallelujah! Words cannot express how great and important he was, yet his minions try... And people wonder why I need the DSM-IV? It is to keep me somewhat sympathetic to his condition instead of ... being less sympathetic, let's just leave it at.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Michael Morgan : My trip to India (first hand account)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I'm also a fan of the rule of thumb. Extra credit for anyone who knows where that phrase comes from! Not from where you think it does. http://www.debunker.com/texts/ruleofthumb.html Damn! Nice naildown.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, Curtis, I'm not gay but reading your posts is giving me a man crush. just kiddin bahahaha Thanks, I'm tickled pink...er...blue, I meant blue dammit! So who do think is going to win in that sporting contest between rival teams of men involving a sphere of some sort? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My gut feeling is that if you describe MMY's behavior in detail to a number of psychologist and psychiatrists, they will guess that he had a personality disorder. So you don't think they would just join him in his self perception as being the most important human being in history? What if they heard Bevan telling them that he really really was, many many many many many many many times? How about then? Still no? This is going to be harder than I thought... This is the most troubling aspect of the cute little holy man picture of Maharishi, his extreme version of grandiosity. And it is also where the devotion of his followers cross over into a darker place of enabling a person with a real psychological problem. A person who might have needed help instead of a steady stream of ass kissing. Unless of course you want to give his own self perception another shot? You know, the perspective where EVERY other meditation teacher and spiritual leader was his inferior. Where he was uniqually saddled with the responsibility to spiritually regenerate all of mankind alone, and only he among ALL the spiritual representatives of the Vedic tradition in India knew the SPECIAL SECRETS. The ONLY authentic spiritual teacher, or at least the best of them ALL. The TOPPERMOST of the POPPERMOST, a wonder unto himself AMEN and Hallelujah! Words cannot express how great and important he was, yet his minions try... And people wonder why I need the DSM-IV? It is to keep me somewhat sympathetic to his condition instead of ... being less sympathetic, let's just leave it at.
[FairfieldLife] 'God didn't give Jesus...'
More than he could handle... robert gimbel seattle, Washington2008 - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha caught on video flying
That temple is an ancient Shiva temple located in southern India at the foot of Ramana Maharishi's mountain, Arunachala. That is a very powerful area of land. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jaya TV news about a Siddhar seen flying in the air. The details of the incident copied below the URL. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EzBAmals2Wc This youtube video that Vaj links to of someone allegedly flying is about as clear as a photo I saw in Life Magazine about 30 years ago of the alleged 2nd shooter on the Grassy Knoll. If you held the magazine page about 20 feet away from you, closed one eye, turned the lights off, and banged yourself really hard across the side of your head then, yes, you would have seen a photo of the second shooter. But that's not to say that this youtube video doesn't reveal something really astounding and incredible. There is, indeed, a real miracle recorded in it. But you have to look for it: At the 00:19 second mark of the video, as the camera sweeps across the landscape of the city, you notice a structure that looks very much like Maharishi's Tower of Invincibility. That a Tower of Invincibility would actually be built, now THAT'S a miracle... The clipping what we are seeing is recorded in Thiruannamalai by a electrician of TNEB, while his routine work on girilvalam* track, the great miracle is one siddhar (Siddhars are saints in India, mostly of the Saivaite denomination in Tamil Nadu) walking in the air when the siddhar realized some one is taking video of him he started flying and disappeared in the air, hara hara mahadeva ... The clipping was actually taken on 20th February 2008 around 3-4 PM IST and was telecasted on JAYA TV a tamil television channel on 21st February 2008 Picture quality is low as it was recorded with the help of the mobile phone *- The Significance of Girivalam (Circumambulation) In most of the holy places the Deity is found atop the hill. But here the Holy hill itself is the Deity (Lord Annamalaiyar) and is worshipped. Arunam means sun and denotes the red colour of fire. Asalam means Giri or malai (mountain). Thus Arunachalam means the HOly hill which is rd in colour. The Holy hill is 2668 fi. high. The Annamalai Hill was Agni (fire) during Kirthayugam, was Manikkam (Emerad) during Threthayugam, was Pon (Gold) during Dwaparayugam and rock during Kaliyugam. There are eight lingams located at the eight directions and provides an octagonal structure to Thiruvannamalai Town. The eight lingams are: Indra Lingam, Agni Lingam, Yama Lingam, Niruthi Lingam, Varuna Lingam, Vayu Lingam, Kubera Lingam and Esanya Lingam. The Adi Annamalai Temple glorified in Dhevaram is located on this path. The circumambulation path is 14 kilometres. History has it that even today a number of siddhars are living on the hill. It is auspicious to perform Girilvalam during every Full moon day which would do immense good. It is because during Full Moon Day siddhars movement would be there and the whole atmosphere would be filled with perfumes of herbal plants. This will provide peace of mind and good health to body. It is a proven fact that on every Full moon day lakhs of devotees circumambulate the Hill and get all benefits by praying to Lord Annamalaiyar To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
authfriend wrote: You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears. Edg: Geeze Judy, now you're horning in on Peter's territory! So what if my fears create these illusions of doom? I am not unique in the least, and that's one mother of a BIG FEAR in this country which is a powerful dynamic in American group consciousness. Read the headlines. It doesn't matter, Judy, if ten million African Americans can be written off just as you've done me; that won't stop the bullets. Deal with the truth, will ya?, instead of trying to make the problem a panicked Edg thingie. Do you really not sense the incredible emotional forces in play in America right now? And, for a person who defends so much of the TM dogma, and who regards TM as a very effective-on-many-levels technique, for you, Judy, to pooh-pooh my concepts as merely a sign of an unstable person, is, as if, providing proof that TM doesn't work to subside such fearing. If TM couldn't crack my fear structures after decades of relentless daily whackings, then, screw your straw dog, Judy, and address the real issues: interment camps, Blackwater Army, Patriot Act, core Repug's hate for McCain, and the technology for crowd control and processing. Judy, you sound like an apologist for the BigMoney status quo. I'm expecting Richard to ask you to marry him. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Monitors
shempmcgurk wrote: Plus I have a profound fear of rejection. One of the funniest statements ever made at FFL. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington
I write this to encourage others to visit MUM America Invincibility Course. I rounded for 6 weeks this past summer and read three readings of experiences while I was there. I am 55 years old and started TM when I was 18. I have missed maybe 5 meditations in my 37 years of practice. Until this rounding experience at MUM I had not rounded since the 70's nor had I practiced the Sidhis with more than 5-10 people in my life. I have had wonderful TM experiences all my life but the group experience with hundreds in my flying hall and 1500--1800 on campus doing program changed my paradigm of what is bliss but yet again. The first few weeks of rounding at MUM I felt very emotional for many reasons. I have had very little involvement with others over all these decades, or the TM Movement, or even discussed the daily miracle of my practice with anyone. I just work my job and go about my life. I know there are others, many others out there like me. Anyway I felt very emotional the first few weeks being around all these mediators. This along with the powerful experiences during program and knowledge were transforming and reaffirming. I am not alone in my practice and even this group is helpful in grounding me and staying connected with others, as they are called at MUM , pioneers. One experience that I didn't include in my reading because it seemed so unusual, but I will now tell as a side note. During the first 2 weeks I was settling into the long program and rounding for a good part of the day. I guess I had heard before the knowledge of going below the level of speech as the goal but I sure don't remember. During the program as I started the Sidhis I was right at that place, the line where you are slightly above the level of speech and can go under the sutra and was struggling. Should I touch the sutra again or go under and I was struggling when I heard this voice. The sweetest, gentlest voice giving me instructions on how to do the technique. The voice was not a whisper but was on the conversation level and would tell me what to do like a tennis instructor. The voice would be at the level of speech and would be there with me below the level of speech. I don't remember anything the voice said except that after I would follow the instructions the voice followed with excited affirmations of That right. That's right. This went on for the whole sutra practice. It was the first meditation I had with the first set of sutras that was absolutely perfect. I remember screaming to myself at the end of meditation in the silence of the great hall. 'That was perfect. That was perfect. I finally understood perfectly my sutra practice. I knew when I was at that place below the level of speech. It was a feeling and I basked in my own nature of pure bliss sitting in awareness breathing totality. I understood now and from this point on my practice was transformed. I carry this same level of intensity with me to my practice in Wilmington. I understood later after relating my experience to a fellow pioneer that my voice was the Self teaching the self. Here is the first of my three readings during my 6 week respite. FirstExperience Reading MUM July 2007 I have started to settle into my program in a way that is profoundly different from my years of practice. In the sutras, I start on the level of speech, and then it starts to go subtle. Some programs I hardly seem to go below the level of speech but in many, I have these profound experiences. When the sensation of falling first appeared I seemed to tighten as if to not want to lose control but quickly accepted the experience and as a toddler who holds onto furniture to cross a room, I let go. I experience some bliss with expansion and I float, then expand, and then I float, and expand as a feather pushed along I move through the sutras. I would initially pet each as a familiar friend and then I had this wonderful experience. At this level, I begin to realize, I know you, the sutras I have said overall these years. I know you and when I am there floating and expanding, all I need at that level is the feeling of your presence and that one is so much like the other until all I know is the experience of floating, expanding and riding on a wave of bliss until I have no longer any time. I have let an hour go by on many occasions before starting the flying sutra. During the flying sutra, if I stay with it long enough, it always becomes pleasant. And sometimes when I get in that place of being immersed in that place where I most want to be, I have a lotus flower at my forehead and it slowly rotates, slowly moves as I go through the program. I noticed that the pleasant feeling has a different quality.It feels sweet. My forehead is sweet and alive with great energy pouring out of my soul, I sit there basking and basking in sweetness.I have noticed that with the first set of sutras I have more bliss come from the heart and with the flying sutra the forehead. I have had the experience during
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears. Edg: Geeze Judy, now you're horning in on Peter's territory! So what if my fears create these illusions of doom? I am not unique in the least, and that's one mother of a BIG FEAR in this country which is a powerful dynamic in American group consciousness. Read the headlines. A great rishi, Sri Sri Tom Traynor-ji, once told me the meaning of fear: FEAR = False Evidence Appearing Real Jai Sri Tom!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha caught on video flying
I looked at the Youtube video a few times. Perhaps it was my laptop screen, but I saw nothing, perhaps some shadow or something. Are we that desperate? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jaya TV news about a Siddhar seen flying in the air. The details of the incident copied below the URL. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EzBAmals2Wc The clipping what we are seeing is recorded in Thiruannamalai by a electrician of TNEB, while his routine work on girilvalam* track, the great miracle is one siddhar (Siddhars are saints in India, mostly of the Saivaite denomination in Tamil Nadu) walking in the air when the siddhar realized some one is taking video of him he started flying and disappeared in the air, hara hara mahadeva ... The clipping was actually taken on 20th February 2008 around 3-4 PM IST and was telecasted on JAYA TV a tamil television channel on 21st February 2008 Picture quality is low as it was recorded with the help of the mobile phone *- The Significance of Girivalam (Circumambulation) In most of the holy places the Deity is found atop the hill. But here the Holy hill itself is the Deity (Lord Annamalaiyar) and is worshipped. Arunam means sun and denotes the red colour of fire. Asalam means Giri or malai (mountain). Thus Arunachalam means the HOly hill which is rd in colour. The Holy hill is 2668 fi. high. The Annamalai Hill was Agni (fire) during Kirthayugam, was Manikkam (Emerad) during Threthayugam, was Pon (Gold) during Dwaparayugam and rock during Kaliyugam. There are eight lingams located at the eight directions and provides an octagonal structure to Thiruvannamalai Town. The eight lingams are: Indra Lingam, Agni Lingam, Yama Lingam, Niruthi Lingam, Varuna Lingam, Vayu Lingam, Kubera Lingam and Esanya Lingam. The Adi Annamalai Temple glorified in Dhevaram is located on this path. The circumambulation path is 14 kilometres. History has it that even today a number of siddhars are living on the hill. It is auspicious to perform Girilvalam during every Full moon day which would do immense good. It is because during Full Moon Day siddhars movement would be there and the whole atmosphere would be filled with perfumes of herbal plants. This will provide peace of mind and good health to body. It is a proven fact that on every Full moon day lakhs of devotees circumambulate the Hill and get all benefits by praying to Lord Annamalaiyar
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
Young Dove, I think you're right to be afraid. We use the word afraid when we see something negative coming, even when we do not personally feel any emotion of fear. That, it seems to me, is the kind of fear you are talking about, and to pretend that it is the personal emotion of fear is to misread your intentions. Your fear is the eternal vigilance that is the price of any democracy. In Nazi Germany, too, there were the spiritual types who tried to make anyone mentioning the kind of fear you have expressed (and for good reason) feel spiritually inferior for having that fear. And, of course, those that didn't have the fear were morally superior. --- Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears. Edg: Geeze Judy, now you're horning in on Peter's territory! So what if my fears create these illusions of doom? I am not unique in the least, and that's one mother of a BIG FEAR in this country which is a powerful dynamic in American group consciousness. Read the headlines. It doesn't matter, Judy, if ten million African Americans can be written off just as you've done me; that won't stop the bullets. Deal with the truth, will ya?, instead of trying to make the problem a panicked Edg thingie. Do you really not sense the incredible emotional forces in play in America right now? And, for a person who defends so much of the TM dogma, and who regards TM as a very effective-on-many-levels technique, for you, Judy, to pooh-pooh my concepts as merely a sign of an unstable person, is, as if, providing proof that TM doesn't work to subside such fearing. If TM couldn't crack my fear structures after decades of relentless daily whackings, then, screw your straw dog, Judy, and address the real issues: interment camps, Blackwater Army, Patriot Act, core Repug's hate for McCain, and the technology for crowd control and processing. Judy, you sound like an apologist for the BigMoney status quo. I'm expecting Richard to ask you to marry him. Edg Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, itsstevemartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all of you who have responded. I think I am going to like this group. I love your honesty. I have always felt out of place not quite Christian, not quite Hindu raised a southern Baptist and have attended the Episcopalian Church some though its not quite right either. All I know is I am a die hard TM'er with little or no contact over my 37 years of meditation and have had and continue to have the most amazing paradigm changing experiences with the technique. I am somewhat disenfranchised with the constraints of the TM Movement group but cannot deny the beauty and power of my own experiences. Steve Martin of Wilmington NC Jeez, you'll be fitting in quite nicely... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, itsstevemartin itsstevemartin@ wrote: I am a long time meditator and just subscribed to this group. What kind of group is this? Pro TM, anti TM,a little of both. A reflection of the town meditators. Uncensored talk. I have a flood of emails to my inbox now and find some of the emails interesting about the spiritual but am deciding if I should unsubscribe. Could I have an option of being a member and not having the emails to my inbox? Thanks, Steve Yes...it will be a pain in the ass if you continue with the emails-in- your-inbox option. You can choose to just see them, as I do, on the FFL Yahoo! group page (go into your personal profile, I think, and change the option). Pro TM, anti TM, a little of both pretty much sums this group up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Selfless Service --- and Breaking the Link Between Fruit and Action
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, Curtis, I'm not gay but reading your posts is giving me a man crush. just kiddin bahahaha Wait until he plays his mouth harp for you...he'll have you weak at the knees... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My gut feeling is that if you describe MMY's behavior in detail to a number of psychologist and psychiatrists, they will guess that he had a personality disorder. So you don't think they would just join him in his self perception as being the most important human being in history? What if they heard Bevan telling them that he really really was, many many many many many many many times? How about then? Still no? This is going to be harder than I thought... This is the most troubling aspect of the cute little holy man picture of Maharishi, his extreme version of grandiosity. And it is also where the devotion of his followers cross over into a darker place of enabling a person with a real psychological problem. A person who might have needed help instead of a steady stream of ass kissing. Unless of course you want to give his own self perception another shot? You know, the perspective where EVERY other meditation teacher and spiritual leader was his inferior. Where he was uniqually saddled with the responsibility to spiritually regenerate all of mankind alone, and only he among ALL the spiritual representatives of the Vedic tradition in India knew the SPECIAL SECRETS. The ONLY authentic spiritual teacher, or at least the best of them ALL. The TOPPERMOST of the POPPERMOST, a wonder unto himself AMEN and Hallelujah! Words cannot express how great and important he was, yet his minions try... And people wonder why I need the DSM-IV? It is to keep me somewhat sympathetic to his condition instead of ... being less sympathetic, let's just leave it at.
[FairfieldLife] Re: UK to license smokers (and that's the least of what they're doing)
Edg: you might enjoy reading The Traveler by John Twelve Hawks or the Rain series by Barry Eisler. A used bookstore in the Peoples Republic Of Madison should have them. You will be looking over you shoulder more. grin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This whole surveillance thing has pretty much happened in the last ten years. But in the last year, I have just gotten sick about it and had to divert my mind to something else. It has become a symbol that triggers many of my paranoias -- the interment camps being built all around America, for instance. Right now, I'm having trouble even thinking about flying anywhere, because just the other day they found a SPECK of marijuana on some guy's heel and he's jailed for something that he could have picked up while walking into the airport, and now they're making it clear that if you bring a laptop they can make you show them every file on it which means they can grab your cell phone too and take down a list of all the folks you talk to. To me it smacks of the Illuminati creating such Big Brother Is Looking fears that they keep everyone at home and afraid to talk to anyone about anything. As I've said here several times: who in today's world would use certain terrorist buzz-words in emails or online postings without some trepidation that the government listeners would pick up on it and suddenly there's a knock on the door and your whole house is ransacked for terrorist-clues? It is simply and obviously a stifling of free speech and of the right to assemble and of the right to privacy. Well, one thing's certain, the masses are asses and if they ever get fed up with this deal, then I expect that all the public cameras will be vandalized by those types who are presently content to write their names with spray paint on subway cars. The populous can only take so much, ya know? But when does that happen? I'm thinking we have a lot more tamping down of the masses before any sort of backlash happens. If only BushCo had re-instituted the draft -- that would have gotten the youth up in arms about being forced to be killers of babies for oil. But nope, the powers have figured that slow but steady erosion of rights will do the trick to keep the crowds from forming. Which brings me to Obama and the huge crowds he's gathering. No other threat to GlobalBiz can match the fires he's seemingly setting in the group consciousness, and every time I catch one of his commercials, all I see is a very very dangerous man with tons of raw power to change things overnight. GlobalBiz is doing the slow erosion thingie, and here's this hippy getting everyone believing that they have RIGHTS again, and that Obama is like Christ Returned At Last to right the wrongs of all our leaders since First Bush. The thing about group consciousness is that when a mob gets a notion, it is then out of the hands of the person who put the notion into the crowd. Obama might be inspiring folks to think they'll get such big fast changes that when he takes office he will simply be unable to fulfill their expectations and he'll look like a foot dragging, glad handing, back stabbing, colluder with GlobalBiz. But who am I kidding? It won't go that far. Obama's too powerful right now, and I truly fear for his life. What's another assassination to GlobalBiz? Some headlines, some conspiracy theories, and the usual work of disinformation, lost film, pooh-poohings and there you have it: dead guy, crowds dispersed, and no one on trial except some boob they set up to pull the trigger. A Parallax View for sure. Where's Warren Beatty when you need him? Oh, wait, he died at the end of that film. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Dove, you gave Judy a ten and me a nine. So my answer to your fear question should also get a nine and Judy's answer should get a ten. She is right in absolute terms. In relative terms, she is dead wrong. When America started torturing people, it was time to be afraid. It always starts with the torture of people who are far away and somehow different from us. Sooner or later, it's your neighbor. And then it's you. Yes, Angela, torture is indeed a slippery slope. That's how I feel about the tax system. But in terms of the Absolute, there is nothing to fear, ever. And some people are able to live that way and make it real in their lives. My grandfather was such a man. He stood in front of a firing squad completely unafraid. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: snip Another 9-11 would do, but riots in every big city would do the trick too. Blam, Martial Law, suspension of the vote, and jack boots on every corner -- and every night, gunfire across the land. Please, someone talk me out of this! No point in even trying. You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
Well, Dove, you gave Judy a ten and me a nine. So my answer to your fear question should also get a nine and Judy's answer should get a ten. She is right in absolute terms. In relative terms, she is dead wrong. When America started torturing people, it was time to be afraid. It always starts with the torture of people who are far away and somehow different from us. Sooner or later, it's your neighbor. And then it's you. But in terms of the Absolute, there is nothing to fear, ever. And some people are able to live that way and make it real in their lives. My grandfather was such a man. He stood in front of a firing squad completely unafraid. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Another 9-11 would do, but riots in every big city would do the trick too. Blam, Martial Law, suspension of the vote, and jack boots on every corner -- and every night, gunfire across the land. Please, someone talk me out of this! No point in even trying. You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of itsstevemartin Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington I am a long time meditator and just subscribed to this group. What kind of group is this? Pro TM, anti TM,a little of both. A reflection of the town meditators. Uncensored talk. I have a flood of emails to my inbox now and find some of the emails interesting about the spiritual but am deciding if I should unsubscribe. Could I have an option of being a member and not having the emails to my inbox? Hi Steve, I don’t know what email client you use, but if it’s an application, such as Outlook, you can create a folder for your FFL emails and a rule to send them all there automatically. In my opinion that’s the best way to read FFL. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Chopra Letter
I wonder it that kind of thing didn't happen a lot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: OK, Lurk, now I'm curious--what was it that happened that caused you to leave? The story, please. :) Nothing earth shattering. I had some pretty good successes teaching in the midwest. Teaching many people, setting up events, celebrations, residence facilities, CIC Courses, Washington Campaign, MIU student thrown it. I was in Livingston Manor, being interviewed to go to Zambia. My interviewer was Reid Martin, (who I really liked, and felt was pretty down to earth). We had just heard a lecture from M about certain experiences we as meditators and teachers might have. Experiences had something to do with feeling in tune with the ebb and flow of world events. I related to Reid that I have/had experiences along these lines. Because of this I must have been put in the unstable category, and was not allowed to go to Zambia. Right at that moment something in me just changed, and all I could think about was leaving. No malice, no anger. Something said. Move On. And that's pretty much what I did.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'God didn't give Jesus...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More than he could handle... robert gimbel seattle, Washington2008 Someone's going to get a special blessing from Jesus in this garbage dump of a situation! Bren MacGuff to Mac MacGuff upon learning that Juno is pregnant. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
RE: [FairfieldLife] The Maharishi, the TMO and women
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Maharishi, the TMO and women I am interested in knowing if the claim that MMY outlined three acceptable paths for women is correct and if anyone has a source for that claim. I don’t think he itemized them explicitly but it boils down to that in movement policy. There are some very influential, capable women in the movement, such as Rindi Schwartz, but they usually don’t play public roles. An exception is Suzie Dillbeck, who has often spoken at conferences. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
Not to mention the trashing of the bill of rights. And President Wilson commented that he had ruined his country when he allowed the Federal Reserve. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Dove, you gave Judy a ten and me a nine. So my answer to your fear question should also get a nine and Judy's answer should get a ten. She is right in absolute terms. In relative terms, she is dead wrong. When America started torturing people, it was time to be afraid. It always starts with the torture of people who are far away and somehow different from us. Sooner or later, it's your neighbor. And then it's you. Yes, Angela, torture is indeed a slippery slope. That's how I feel about the tax system. But in terms of the Absolute, there is nothing to fear, ever. And some people are able to live that way and make it real in their lives. My grandfather was such a man. He stood in front of a firing squad completely unafraid. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: snip Another 9-11 would do, but riots in every big city would do the trick too. Blam, Martial Law, suspension of the vote, and jack boots on every corner -- and every night, gunfire across the land. Please, someone talk me out of this! No point in even trying. You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Monitors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Plus I have a profound fear of rejection. One of the funniest statements ever made at FFL. Edg Yeah, and when the rejection is preceeded by the cultspeak Perhaps it would be best if... then the rejection is a double dose of worsity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi, the TMO and women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Maharishi, the TMO and women I am interested in knowing if the claim that MMY outlined three acceptable paths for women is correct and if anyone has a source for that claim. I don't think he itemized them explicitly but it boils down to that in movement policy. There are some very influential, capable women in the movement, such as Rindi Schwartz, but they usually don't play public roles. An exception is Suzie Dillbeck, who has often spoken at conferences. A hot little number in her day (in an academic sort of way) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] New posting limits idea -- sigh (5)
Rick, Here's the deal: you've got the power. Why not use it wrongly for good? Here's how: I'll send $100 to any Fairfield charity of your choice if you allow me unlimited posting here. Take the bribe and to hell with those here who will find fault. See? This all comes cuz you let us post our hearts out during the funeral, and now I'm addicted to posting ten-word blurbs for the most insignificant of reasons -- but I'm willing to pay for my addictions! Okay, here's my real new idea: I put a 5 after my title above. This is my 5th post today, so I'm thinking it's the easiest way to keep track of my posts -- just put a number in a title every now and then. But, yeah, take the $100 too -- USE THE POWER, Rick, GO TO THE POWER! Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
Duveyoung wrote: Im' afraid. Is it just me? Don't be afraid. Be angry. That's what has happened is you've had your safe country stolen away from you by a bunch felonious traitors. Take it back. We're much smarter than they are and if we put our collective heads together we can take them down and return the planet to sanity. Isn't that what meditating was about anyway?
[FairfieldLife] Re: UK to license smokers (and that's the least of what they're doing)
This one should also be good. http://tinyurl.com/2zmt7p I'm trying for a galley copy as he is an old friend. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's many software packages out there that can pose as being artificially intelligent. All photos on the Web can be mined for content by such filtering agents. All text can be examined to create lists of best bets on who's a terrorist. Vocabulary, syntax, spelling errors, time of posting, etc. all can get the list fairly short -- short enough to send out agents on fishing trips. I suspect they are able to parse telephone calls almost as well, but that would be a much harder coding accomplishment. Satellites can read license plate numbers. Whenever one is required to type in the letters you see in the graphic to prevent automatic software agents from signing up to get posting privileges for their spam, we see that these letters have to be ever more cleverly garbled so that machines can't read the graphics and submit a valid data-setso that shows how sophisticated graphic-reading-software already isand probably the government has much better software than the spammers are using. There's even software that can look at the blinking LED lights on your computer as the computer is sending and determine the text of the message. In less than 20 years there will be nanomachines that wirelessly communicate with each other and central brains. The cameras everywhere will be gone from sight and yet a thousand times more plentiful. Don't forget the new xray machines that shows a person as naked on the monitor -- hidden guns etc. pop right out. Scan ten thousand to catch one terrorist is a formula that GlobalBiz can live with. These days, I'm not even bothering to imagine a future past 2012things seem to be building up steam too fast, and something's got to blow. Edg PS -- Here's a previous post of mine that gives two examples of Big Brother bothering me -- and the saving grace of the scenario in that human intuition is an unexpected dynamic. Re: hate America? Two stories: At an airport, they pulled me aside. Don't know why. They search everything, feeling linings for lumps, checking my body for metal, patting me down, and then targeting my brief case and wiping it with a special cloth that would show if I had even a hint of banned chemicals to make on-board explosives with. The cloths showed positively that my brief case had something wrongobongo. So they called in their superior, cuz, well, I'm a very nice guy with gray hair with a woman whose luggage showed no signs of residues and I'm laughing aloud cuz I know I'm clean as clean can be. So, you know, I'm not fitting the terrorist profile. They're wiping repeatedly. Maybe 10 wiping-events, and the machine-reader called each one of them positive for banned something-or-other. Finally the supervisor makes a call, and whomever he talks to doesn't know what to do either. Finally, they just call it, and tell me I'm okay to fly. Sometimes a deodorant or shaving cream will have an ingredient that triggers these machines, he said. But everyone knew, it was their intuition overriding their testing devices. If I had had a beard or accent or turban, I'd probably still be being strip searched. See? You don't? Okay, next story: I get audited by the IRS, and they pull me into their office and go over my receipts -- one by one by one. I'm living in the upper bedroom of the center and using the rest of the house for business, but the tax guy says that if the center isn't open 24/7 then the house is for my personal use only during non-business hours and my deductions should be discounted downwards. I tell them, well, if that's the case, then this and that and this and that will have to be re-figured to make all the math come out correctly. The tax guy says, Well, how about you just pay $300 more in taxesdeal? See? Laws, schmaws, authorities are human and make up their own minds right there on the spot. Some days, ya just gotta love the lowest rung on bureacracy's ladder; some other days, not so much, eh? The laws are about spiritual intent -- not the letter of the law, but almost any intent can be projected into almost any law, and beware the minions who are dealing out the taro cards when they decide your fate. Hey, Boss, pick a card so I can process this passenger. Oops, sorry, Buddy, but the only kind of boarding you're going to get is waterboarding. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:56 AM, hugheshugo wrote: They have plans for roadside cameras to log every car that drives past, face recognition software so they can automatically track whoever they want wherever they want. The Stasi would have loved technology like that. I think that could be the problem, a lot
[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert
Shemp: That was priceless and the closest I was to official was washing dishes at a potluck dinner. . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) I don't have to wear a tie to TM functions anymore! 2) Jeans are back in. 3) I can behave any fucking way I want to at TM functions...and be as politically incorrect as I want to be. 4) Let Kinky Kingy Tony, Bevan, Rajarski Hagelin, or any of the Knights Rajah Templar Global Village of Administation Poobahs try sending out the word for TM teachers to do this or that...hey, I'm not recertified...I DON'T HAVE TO BE AT YOUR FUCKING BECK AND CALL...get one of your recertified running dog lackies to do it. 5) Freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of thought...
[FairfieldLife] Michelle Obama thesis was on racial divide
Michelle Obama thesis was on racial divide By: Jeffrey Ressner Feb 22, 2008 04:20 PM EST Updated: February 23, 2008 09:51 AM EST Michelle Obama's senior thesis at Princeton University shows a young woman grappling with race and society. Photo: AP Michelle Obama's senior year thesis at Princeton University, obtained from the campaign by Politico, shows a document written by a young woman grappling with a society in which a black Princeton alumnus might only be allowed to remain on the periphery. Read the full thesis here: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4. My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my 'blackness' than ever before, the future Mrs. Obama wrote in her thesis introduction. I have found that at Princeton, no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my white professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong. Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be black first and a student second. The thesis, titled Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community and written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson, in 1985, has been the subject of much conjecture on the blogosphere and elsewhere in recent weeks, as it has been temporarily withdrawn from Princeton's library until after this year's presidential election in November. Some of the material has been written about previously, however, including a story last year in the Newark Star Ledger. Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant. During a presidential contest in which the term transparency has been frequently bandied about, candidates have buried a number of potentially revealing documents and papers. In Hillary Rodham Clinton's case, there's been a clamoring for tax records, White House memos and other material the candidate's team has chosen to keep from release. The 96-page Princeton thesis, restricted from release by the school's Mudd Library, has also been the subject of recent scrutiny. Earlier this week, commentator Jonah Goldberg remarked on National Review Online, A reader in the know informs me that Michelle Obama's thesis ... is unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008, at the Princeton library. I wonder why. Why a restricted thesis? asked blogger-pastor Louis Lapides on his site Thinking Outside the Blog. Is the concern based on what's in the thesis? Will Michelle Obama appear to be too black for white America or not black enough for black America? Attempts to retrieve the document through Princeton proved unsuccessful, with school librarians having been pestered so much for access to the thesis that they have resorted to reading from a script when callers inquire about it. Media officers at the prestigious university were similarly unhelpful, claiming it is not unusual for a thesis to be restricted and refusing to discuss the academic work of alumni. The Obama campaign, however, quickly responded to a request for the thesis by Politico. The thesis offers several fascinating insights into the mind of Michelle Obama, who has been a passionate advocate of her husband's presidential aspirations and who has made several controvesial statements, including this week's remark, For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. That comment has fueled debate on countless blogs, radio talk shows and cable news for days on end, causing her to explain the statement in greater detail. The 1985 thesis provides a trove of Michelle Obama's thoughts as a young woman, with many of the paper's statements describing the student's world as seen through a race-based prism. In defining the concept of identification or the ability to identify with the black community, the Princeton student wrote, I based my definition on the premise that there is a distinctive black culture very different from white culture. Other thesis statements specifically pointed to what was seen by the future Mrs. Obama as racially insensitive practices in a university system populated with mostly Caucasian educators and students: Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of their enrollments. To illustrate the latter statement, she pointed out that Princeton (at the time) had only five black tenured professors on its faculty, and its Afro-American studies program is one of the smallest and most understaffed departments in the university. In addition, she said only one major university-recognized group on campus was
RE: [FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington
Beautiful experiences Steve. I really appreciate your posting them, and am glad you joined us. Cool that that voice told you how to do the sutras right. I did them for about 25 years and never really had any results – I always preferred just plain meditating – but I’ve often thought that if I ever get to a place where I feel my state of consciousness has shifted radically, I might try them again. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: New posting limits idea -- sigh (5)
Duveyoung, If you send ME $90.00, I'll start your very own Yahoo! Group for you and give you a posting limit of 125 per week. And then I'll only charge you $1.37 for every posting you go over the limit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, Here's the deal: you've got the power. Why not use it wrongly for good? Here's how: I'll send $100 to any Fairfield charity of your choice if you allow me unlimited posting here. Take the bribe and to hell with those here who will find fault. See? This all comes cuz you let us post our hearts out during the funeral, and now I'm addicted to posting ten-word blurbs for the most insignificant of reasons -- but I'm willing to pay for my addictions! Okay, here's my real new idea: I put a 5 after my title above. This is my 5th post today, so I'm thinking it's the easiest way to keep track of my posts -- just put a number in a title every now and then. But, yeah, take the $100 too -- USE THE POWER, Rick, GO TO THE POWER! Edg
RE: [FairfieldLife] New posting limits idea -- sigh (5)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:39 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] New posting limits idea -- sigh (5) Rick, Here's the deal: you've got the power. Why not use it wrongly for good? Here's how: I'll send $100 to any Fairfield charity of your choice if you allow me unlimited posting here. Take the bribe and to hell with those here who will find fault. Save your money for your visit to FF during our upcoming “Non-virtual FFL get together,” to which Geezerfreak and possibly Curtis have already committed. See? This all comes cuz you let us post our hearts out during the funeral, and now I'm addicted to posting ten-word blurbs for the most insignificant of reasons -- but I'm willing to pay for my addictions! Okay, here's my real new idea: I put a 5 after my title above. This is my 5th post today, so I'm thinking it's the easiest way to keep track of my posts -- just put a number in a title every now and then. The reason this is a bad idea is that changing the title starts a new thread, so those scrolling through the thread will lose track. Can’t you just keep a scratch paper by your computer and make a mark on it every time you post? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] French film mag's readers' Best Of 2007
TurquoiseB wrote: With the Oscars looming, US film freaks might be interested in what the snobbish, effete, intellec- tual (that is to say, French) readers of Studio voted as their favorites for film year 2007. I find it an interesting pseudo-scientific study on the difference between French film freaks' sensibilities and what they value, compared to those of American film freaks. Favorite Films Of 2007: 1. La vie des autres (The Lives Of Others, German). I still have not seen this film, because my travels have not brought me upon a version of one with English subtitles. Sigh, alack. I think this won last year's Oscar. It has been available for some time on DVD in the US. Good film. 2. La Môme (La vie en rose, French). Biopick about Edith Piaf...would the French like it? Duh. I haven't rented this one yet but it is at the local Hollywood Video where yesterday I picked up Next on HD-DVD for $10. You HD-DVD owners might want to drop by your local Hollywood Video which if they carried HD-DVD is blowing them out. 3. Les chansons d'amour (Love Songs, French). This one is so French in the same way that some things are so gay. It's a musical in the same pop opera tradition as The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, and it's about a romantic threesome to boot. What ees not to like about that, alors! Also on my list. 4. La nuit nous appartient (We Own The Night, USA). I'll admit it...I'm a film freak and I had never even *heard* of this film before seeing it on this list. Joaquin Phoenix, Robert Duvall, Eva Mendes, Mark Wahlberg...great cast. Can't wait to see it. Just in at HV on BluRay so will watch it sometime soon hopefully when HV stops charging it's MVP members full rental on BluRay. Some of these movies slip right through the theaters in a couple of weeks. 5. Les promesses de l'ombre (Eastern Promises, USA). Ok, finally one I've seen and can comment on. Dark, dark film, in the way that only David Cronenberg can make a dark, dark film. But at the same time almost uplifting and hope-inspiring in its darkness, the polar opposite of the dark, dark and unrelenting There Will Be Blood. Good film. I always like Cronenberg but Canadian films are more artistic than Hollywood. 6. Zodiac (USA). Saw it, wasn't knocked out. In fact, it barely held my attention. The French love it. Go figure. You saw the David Fincher film not one of the knock-offs I hope. The unrated version is much better. I saw it on HD-DVD and there are a lot of great extras. Since I live in the area it was interesting to see a bit of this history. Fincher is obsessive-compulsive about detail and apparently gets to budget to be so. 7. Ratatouille (USA). A way cool rat becomes a Cordon Bleu chef in Paris. Again, What ees not to like about that, eh? But I agree with the French...it belongs in the Top Ten for the year. Maybe when it makes its way to OnDemand. 8. Persepolis (French/Iranian). Marjane Satrapi's wonderful animated autobiography of growing up in Iran. Highly recommended. This looked good but will reserve for rental. 9. Le Scaphandre et le papillion (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, French). The true story of Elle editor Jean-Dominique Bauby whose stroke has left only his left eye not paralyzed, but who has a better life than most of us. Currently in arthouse around here in the Exclusive San Francisco Engagement venue. And who wants to drive into SF? 10. De l'autre coté (The Other Side, Canada). Don't know it. A thriller. Sounds interesting. Not aware of it but I like thrillers. At least Sony Classic Films and LionsGate are still distributing foreign films here but not enough IMO. I so bore with over produced Hollywood drek. Speaking of which I was curious enough to see Vantage Point on opening day. Not as bad as the critics claim and somewhat entertaining. The critics got hung up on the Roshomon device which also annoyed the audience around me (but they probably didn't realize the device). It was at least entertaining. I plan to see The Signal this next week as it got a little better reviews. Oh, I met to post my 6 worder last week: Too many movies, too little time. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: The below was always a choice one had regardless of anything. If we are enslaved, its because we enslave ourselves. Practical ramifications? Of course! But thats the price of freedom. One doesn't become free by asking permission from one's master/Master. Maharishi enslaved many people, with their permission of course. Why he did this, I don't have a clue! All I know is that he gave a transcendent smile to those who removed their shackles while condemning them on the surface. Shit, I'm gonna use up all my posts in the first few days because there is so much good material to riff off of. :-) I like Shemp's rap; it was Funny Shemp again. At the same time I agree with your rap. I felt the restrictions imposed upon me by the TM move- ment the same as any other teacher did. But I was a rebel then, just like now, so I didn't *submit* to all of them. Or I found ways to fuck with the rules in public. For some reason your rap reminded me of one of my favorite ways to fuck with the rules and made me smile. It was the tie thing. We had to wear the tie; that was a given, the rule. But they forgot to specify what *kind* of tie. During the entire time I worked at the National Center in Pacific Palisades and at the Regional Office, I specialized in really push- the-envelope ties. I'm talking ties with nekkid women on them. *Most* of my ties of that era had nekkid women on them. They weren't *tacky* nekkid women or anything like that. I have excellent taste in ties. I have Jerry Garcia ties that I bought when they first came out because I thought they were art. I have since been offered in excess of $1000 for each of them, but I won't sell because they *are* art. Anyway, the ties from my L.A. era were scenes from Art Nouveau paintings, or Japanese floating world paintings, Picasso line drawings of nudes, that sorta thing. For the price (at about $40.00 per), the current crop of Jerry Garcia ties are amongst the best deals you can get in neckware. So are Martin Wong Screenplay ties. As for your $1,000 per tie claim, I can actually believe it. Salvador Dali came out with a line of ties in the 40s (not to be confused with the tacky limpy clocks and cacti ties that have recently come out) that are virtual works of art that can sell in that range. For me, the ultimate ties are Vitaliano Pancaldi ties made in Bologna Italy of the finest silk and silkscreening techniques. Each tie is a work of art and retail now for about $150-300.00 per tie. But I don't like the designers they have now; their best era was their art deco period of the early '90s...those ties sell on ebay USED for about $75.00 to $150 per tie. Despite what you or others may think of Rush Limbaugh, he was so famous in the 90s for wearing Pancaldi ties on his TV show that he parlayed it into his own line of ties (now defunct, I think) that themselves have become collector items. Power ties is what they're called. I have Pancaldi ties that when you wear them you get at least 2 or 3 compliments per day. Here's an example of a classic Pancaldi from the early 90s (hope the paste comes out): But the point is that I wore one of them every day, and NO ONE EVER SAID DICK ABOUT THEM. I sometimes worked for hours across the table from Jerry Jarvis and he never once said a word about them. Go figure. --- shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: 1) I don't have to wear a tie to TM functions anymore! 2) Jeans are back in. 3) I can behave any fucking way I want to at TM functions...and be as politically incorrect as I want to be. 4) Let Kinky Kingy Tony, Bevan, Rajarski Hagelin, or any of the Knights Rajah Templar Global Village of Administation Poobahs try sending out the word for TM teachers to do this or that...hey, I'm not recertified...I DON'T HAVE TO BE AT YOUR FUCKING BECK AND CALL...get one of your recertified running dog lackies to do it. 5) Freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of thought... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
I have had absolutely amazing experiences with the sidhis. I encourage you to return to the program. I will post more. When I see sometimes all the hookum I read about and the chaos I see sometimes associated with the movement I would find it easy to believe the negative. Here is the 3rd reading of my experiences of that respite. They would not let me talk about past experiences on the course. Only about what I got on the course. Where I am now is going beyond beneath thought and just sitting in awareness. I love it. I go to bed at 9:00pm and naturally wake up between 3 and 4 am. I walk my dog and then settle into a program that lasts from about 4 to 6:30am. I am at work at 7:30am. I absolutely love waking up in the morning and doing my long program. Here is a post o f my 3rd reading during my 6 week respite at MUM June/July 07. Joyce Carol Oates asks in her book, Middle Aged What is the meaning of life? What is the meaning of your life? Is there a difference? The meaning of my life is bliss, and I am, with help, steadily closing that difference. I am on the last of my 6 week respite here. I used to say meditations were almost, always pleasant, but now I say, they are almost, always blissful. Mostly the first set of sutras in the beginning, and now, the entire program is bliss becoming blissful. I sit in bliss, and time goes. In activity, I experience some bliss during the day, and by bedtime, it has become more. It has become blissful. I wake up in bliss. My program has changed in so many ways, but so has my knowledge. I did not know before I came here that: totality, the transcendent, wholeness, the unmanifest, Brahm, emptiness, nothingness, and your own nature are bliss. Now I know when I experience bliss, I am close to home, and home is where I need to be. I just follow the bliss. Follow the bliss. I am an expression of bliss. The whole thing is about the bliss, and the clearer my intellectual understanding becomes, the more effective my program becomes; that along with the power of group practice, good diet and rest. Good diet. I feel after eating this wonderful food at MUM, organic, fresh, beautifully prepared and seasoned, I now know what good food is; hats off to the chef. What wonderful food I have had here; what wonderful food, truly wonderful. Last Saturday it was a little cool, and the rain fell in buckets, torrents beating the Utopia Hall tin roof all morning, and I, wrapped in my cotton hooded parker, and over this, a soft cotton blanket pulled to my chin heated me to toast as I sat deep in program, deep in bliss. It was wonderful, wonderful. All I was missing were my footy pajamas, and my Teddy Bear. The experience was of innocence, and that is what has stood out most of all here in this place is your innocence. Like Winnie the Pooh in the Hundred Acer Forest, I see each Sidha going about their day in gentleness, and innocence. I watch in breathless wonder. This is an innocent place. This is a gentle place. A community becoming, innocence becoming. I can see it in your eyes. I can see it in your walk, your breath, your talk. I can see it in the eyes of those to whom you speak. My heart is a garden, and your words the rain. Jai Guru Dev Steve Martin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful experiences Steve. I really appreciate your posting them, and am glad you joined us. Cool that that voice told you how to do the sutras right. I did them for about 25 years and never really had any results I always preferred just plain meditating but I've often thought that if I ever get to a place where I feel my state of consciousness has shifted radically, I might try them again. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Fairfield Events/Swami Dayamrita Flyer 2008.doc Uploaded by : rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Flyer announcing Swami Dayamrita's (head of Amma's US organization) visit to FF Mar. 3 You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Fairfield%20Events/Swami%20Dayamrita%20Flyer%202008.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles Regards, rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
shempmcgurk wrote: Yes, Angela, torture is indeed a slippery slope. That's how I feel about the tax system. So you like driving though potholes? BTW, I agree the tax system since I have been struggling with my accountant's worksheet is a sham and WAY over complicated. It is imbalanced and we paupers should pay only a token tax and let those greedy bastards pay the bill as they seem to benefit far more than us. Again tax them at 100% if they already have an estate of $12 million. Who needs more? Just greedy bastards.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington
On Feb 23, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Beautiful experiences Steve. I really appreciate your posting them, and am glad you joined us. Cool that that voice told you how to do the sutras right. I did them for about 25 years and never really had any results – I always preferred just plain meditating – but I’ve often thought that if I ever get to a place where I feel my state of consciousness has shifted radically, I might try them again. Too late, Rick, the statute of limitations on the TMSP sutras has run out. If you want to practice them again, you'll have to take a refresher course. Rajette Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: You're projecting inner fears that you don't want to look at onto external situations, which you can examine and talk about openly. But they aren't what you're really afraid of. Only you can get to the bottom of your real fears. Edg: Geeze Judy, now you're horning in on Peter's territory! So what if my fears create these illusions of doom? Note that I never said there's nothing to worry about in the external world. BUT you can't tell what's really worth worrying about in the external world until you stop projecting your inner fears onto it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak
Yes it was Shemp. The tell all websites indicate that it was, in the past at least, given as the sixth advanced technique. My feelings are mixed about those websites that tell all and am more than a little reticent to go into great detail. I had had 3 advanced techniques at that point and was on the in residence portion of my sidhi program instruction at a large assembly in Washington DC. After asking my CIC administrator if it was OK to receive Chopra's instruction, he paused and contemplated for a good 2-3 minutes then told me yes. I have no idea what the criteria was. At that point all the sutras had been imparted and clear flavors were quite evident. It was interesting to me, years later reading tell all websites, that my next advanced technique was the Age of Enlightenment Technique. The psycho-physiological technique had an immediately nice effect and added no time to my program. Glad I did it. Never did ponder long on why it was $700 and advanced techniques were, I believe, $300. Maybe that was Chopra's cut. grin I didn't and don't care. Memories are floating back to me of being in High School and having friends ask if it was worth it spending $55 for TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed out completely on this whole project, Tom. Was this a technique provided/sold under the auspices of the TMO? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote: My own experience was somewhat different probably due to not getting the 3 in 1 deal mentioned in an earlier post. I received/purchased the bliss aka psycho-physiological technique during a summer assembly in DC. After opening and placing on a table a small pocket sized two sided picture frame containing pictures of both Guru Dev and MMY, the technique was imparted. No mantra instruction was involved, hence no puja. I remember having the feeling that the warmth present was about on the level of visiting the DMV. Much later, having read that the gross was $35K and that Dr. Chopra probably received next to none of the dough, I thought I knew why. I was quite satisfied with the technique and enjoyed its effects quite readily. The price of $700 versus the $55 of my initial TM instruction years before was not really a big issue for me especially compared to the $3K spent a year earlier for the CIC. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: One thing comes to mind in this regard: someone mentioned on this forum in another posting that in Deepak's method of meditation that he imparts the mantra without doing a puja.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha caught on video flying
Love a YouTube poster's comment bullshit in response to this ridiculous video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gandalfaragorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at the Youtube video a few times. Perhaps it was my laptop screen, but I saw nothing, perhaps some shadow or something. Are we that desperate? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Jaya TV news about a Siddhar seen flying in the air. The details of the incident copied below the URL. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EzBAmals2Wc The clipping what we are seeing is recorded in Thiruannamalai by a electrician of TNEB, while his routine work on girilvalam* track, the great miracle is one siddhar (Siddhars are saints in India, mostly of the Saivaite denomination in Tamil Nadu) walking in the air when the siddhar realized some one is taking video of him he started flying and disappeared in the air, hara hara mahadeva ... The clipping was actually taken on 20th February 2008 around 3-4 PM IST and was telecasted on JAYA TV a tamil television channel on 21st February 2008 Picture quality is low as it was recorded with the help of the mobile phone *- The Significance of Girivalam (Circumambulation) In most of the holy places the Deity is found atop the hill. But here the Holy hill itself is the Deity (Lord Annamalaiyar) and is worshipped. Arunam means sun and denotes the red colour of fire. Asalam means Giri or malai (mountain). Thus Arunachalam means the HOly hill which is rd in colour. The Holy hill is 2668 fi. high. The Annamalai Hill was Agni (fire) during Kirthayugam, was Manikkam (Emerad) during Threthayugam, was Pon (Gold) during Dwaparayugam and rock during Kaliyugam. There are eight lingams located at the eight directions and provides an octagonal structure to Thiruvannamalai Town. The eight lingams are: Indra Lingam, Agni Lingam, Yama Lingam, Niruthi Lingam, Varuna Lingam, Vayu Lingam, Kubera Lingam and Esanya Lingam. The Adi Annamalai Temple glorified in Dhevaram is located on this path. The circumambulation path is 14 kilometres. History has it that even today a number of siddhars are living on the hill. It is auspicious to perform Girilvalam during every Full moon day which would do immense good. It is because during Full Moon Day siddhars movement would be there and the whole atmosphere would be filled with perfumes of herbal plants. This will provide peace of mind and good health to body. It is a proven fact that on every Full moon day lakhs of devotees circumambulate the Hill and get all benefits by praying to Lord Annamalaiyar
[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I have excellent taste in ties. I have Jerry Garcia ties that I bought when they first came out because I thought they were art. I have since been offered in excess of $1000 for each of them, but I won't sell because they *are* art. Anyway, the ties from my L.A. era were scenes from Art Nouveau paintings, or Japanese floating world paintings, Picasso line drawings of nudes, that sorta thing. For the price (at about $40.00 per), the current crop of Jerry Garcia ties are amongst the best deals you can get in neckware. I lost track years ago, after the second wave of such ties. So are Martin Wong Screenplay ties. Not familiar with them. I have a wonderful collection of ties, none of which I get to wear very often around here. I live in a beach town in Spain; ties are a rarity. As for your $1,000 per tie claim, I can actually believe it. Salvador Dali came out with a line of ties in the 40s (not to be confused with the tacky limpy clocks and cacti ties that have recently come out) that are virtual works of art that can sell in that range. Dali's a bit of a local hero in Catalunya. There are hand-painted ties of his that sell in galleries around here for tens of thousands of Euros. The Jerry ties I have been offered that much for were from the first wave, and are known to be Jerry's favorites. He chose them to display on the wall of the suite he designed for the Triton Hotel in San Francisco. Color me a nostalgic old hippie, but I spent a most wonderful evening there once, listening to his music in the room he designed himself and thinking back to the evening I dropped acid with on top of Mt. Tam. For me, the ultimate ties are Vitaliano Pancaldi ties made in Bologna Italy of the finest silk and silkscreening techniques. Each tie is a work of art and retail now for about $150-300.00 per tie. But I don't like the designers they have now; their best era was their art deco period of the early '90s...those ties sell on ebay USED for about $75.00 to $150 per tie. Wow. You make me wax nostalgic for the days when I actually got to wear ties and thus could trip on them as art objects. Suffice it to say they don't exactly go with my normal T-shirts and jeans couture. Now I go for cool T-shirts. My favorite for getting to know interesting women is this one: http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/stylinonline_1989_155234370 You know you've found a potential soulmate when she not only knows what ship this logo is from, but knows lines spoken by the characters as they sailed her.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New posting limits idea -- sigh (5)
Even better idea, start your own blog for free since you want to use FFL as your blog and frankly your posts (as well as everyone elses) aren't worth special handling. With your own blog you can pontificate all you want with 1000 line rambles. Go for it! Duveyoung wrote: Rick, Here's the deal: you've got the power. Why not use it wrongly for good? Here's how: I'll send $100 to any Fairfield charity of your choice if you allow me unlimited posting here. Take the bribe and to hell with those here who will find fault. See? This all comes cuz you let us post our hearts out during the funeral, and now I'm addicted to posting ten-word blurbs for the most insignificant of reasons -- but I'm willing to pay for my addictions! Okay, here's my real new idea: I put a 5 after my title above. This is my 5th post today, so I'm thinking it's the easiest way to keep track of my posts -- just put a number in a title every now and then. But, yeah, take the $100 too -- USE THE POWER, Rick, GO TO THE POWER! Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Yes, Angela, torture is indeed a slippery slope. That's how I feel about the tax system. So you like driving though potholes? BTW, I agree the tax system since I have been struggling with my accountant's worksheet is a sham and WAY over complicated. It is imbalanced and we paupers should pay only a token tax and let those greedy bastards pay the bill as they seem to benefit far more than us. Again tax them at 100% if they already have an estate of $12 million. Who needs more? Just greedy bastards. You are, of course,completely off the mark, Barfitu, when it comes to understanding anything about taxes and how much the rich pay. THE RICH ALREADY PAY FAR, FAR MORE THAN THEY SHOULD. Table 1. Summary of Federal Individual Income Tax Data, 2005 (Updated October 2007) Number of Returns with Positive AGI AGI ($ millions) Income Taxes Paid ($ millions) Group's Share of Total AGI Group's Share of Income Taxes Income Split Point Average Tax Rate All Taxpayers 132,611,637 $7,507,958 $934,703 100.00% 100.00% - 12.45% Top 1% 1,326,116 $1,591,711 $368,132 21.20% 39.38% $364,657 23.13% Top 2-5% 5,304,466 $1,092,223 $189,627 14.55% 20.29% 17.36% Top 5% 6,630,582 $2,683,934 $557,759 35.75% 59.67% $145,283 20.78% Top 6-10% 6,630,582 $803,076 $99,326 10.70% 10.63% 12.37% Top 10% 13,261,164 $3,487,010 $657,085 46.44% 70.30% $103,912 18.84% Top 11-25% 19,891,745 $1,582,445 $146,687 21.08% 15.69% 9.27% Top 25% 33,152,909 $5,069,455 $803,772 67.52% 85.99% $62,068 15.86% Top 26-50% 33,152,909 $1,475,369 $102,256 19.65% 10.94% 6.93% Top 50% 66,305,819 $6,544,824 $906,028 87.17% 96.93% $30,881 13.84% Bottom 50% 66,305,818 963,134 $28,675 12.83% 3.07% $30,881 2.98% Source: Internal Revenue Service
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Monitors
shempmcgurk wrote: Tom's little anecdote recounted below is the reason I post anonymously. I haven't been on a TM course in a decade or so but I always entertain the fantasy of going back on a course at some point. I have had really incredible experiences on courses and want to have that option available to me. Plus I have a profound fear of rejection. Why not learn a new and real system. TM isn't that good a technique anyway. You'll make new friends. Well maybe, most yogic meditation folks are probably a bit far to the left of you. :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] You know you've found a potential soulmate when she not only knows what ship this logo is from, but knows lines spoken by the characters as they sailed her. It's all fine and good if she knows lines spoken by the characters as they sailed her. Better if she let's YOU sail HER. And, sure, it's sweet if she knows what ship the logo is from but, again, better if you can slip her YOUR logo.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From Michael Morgan : My trip to India (first hand account)
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I'm also a fan of the rule of thumb. Extra credit for anyone who knows where that phrase comes from! Not from where you think it does. http://www.debunker.com/texts/ruleofthumb.html Damn! Nice naildown. **end* Totally tangential, but I noticed that I felt 'reluctant' to let go of that assumed bit of knowledge about what the phrase meant. Apparently I had invested in it somehow and finding out that what I *knew* actually didn't mean anything at all -- wasn't valuable anymore -- I still found myself reluctant to discard it, like a confederate dollar bill.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever did become of Jerry Jarvis?
Tom, that's my take on Jerry, too. He was a very effective and important role model for me when I was a young man in the movement. Although I've only spoken with him a few times I'm awfully fond of him. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My limited experience was different. His sense of humor was strong and contagious. His lectures were long and detailed but he had a very powerful Gyani yogi thing going. I found him sincere, humble, and self effacing. Only one mans view I guess. To my knowledge, he had no official position with the movement at the time. I had been meditating maybe 14 years and had taken several advanced techniques and his words resonated well. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: Jerry Jarvis came to my university while he and Maharishi were touring Boston and Cambridge, MA. He filled a 2000 seat lecture hall. He was giggling so much that most people, myself included, decided that surely this meditation was not for us. He was the guest speaker in Mount Eagle, TN on a residence course where the sidhas got together and did their rounds, not sanctioned by the sidhi administrators. Man, what a boring dude. Those were my only two encounters with Jerry and they were not positive. If someone else had given the intro lecture to TM, perhaps 1,500 people would have started. Out of the 2,000 assembled, not a single one decided that TM was serious. Jerry's giggling prevented me from starting TM for 3 years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The upside of not being a Recert - Serenity or Dali
TurquoiseB wrote: Now I go for cool T-shirts. My favorite for getting to know interesting women is this one: http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/stylinonline_1989_155234370 You know you've found a potential soulmate when she not only knows what ship this logo is from ... Barry! i never did thank you for turning me on to this ship a while back; i had never seen nor heard of the show, until you started to talk about it here. i went out and rented the DVD's, and totally loved the entire short series ... im a big fan: Serenity Now! Dali's a bit of a local hero in Catalunya. There are hand-painted ties of his that sell in galleries around here for tens of thousands of Euros. i have to mention also, Salvatore Dali has been spotted in Berkeley! i recently saw a delightful play Hysteria the premise is a tumultuous meeting of Dali with Sigmund Freud; it was hilarious, especially the Dali character; i would recommend this show if ever it comes to a stage near you! they have some photo's here: http://www.auroratheatre.org/show_photos.php?prod_id=51#311
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Young Dove, I think you're right to be afraid. We use the word afraid when we see something negative coming, even when we do not personally feel any emotion of fear. That, it seems to me, is the kind of fear you are talking about, and to pretend that it is the personal emotion of fear is to misread your intentions. Seems to me someone who expresses that kind of fear doesn't beg to be talked out of it, as Edg did. Nor do they say things like: I'm afraid. Yeah, I need a checking, but by my estimate, I'll need another 29 years of four hours a day to get my nervous system to the point where such a fear is seen clearly enough to snuff it. Those two were the tell; Edg was actually being right up front about personally feeling the emotion of fear, your attempt to poohpooh it notwithstanding. It seems you didn't actually bother to read what he said; you were too anxious to get off a slam at me. Your fear is the eternal vigilance that is the price of any democracy. Yeah, boy, it's a really good thing you were so vigilant to warn us about how blacks in the United States were going to lose their right to vote if the Voting Rights Act wasn't renewed. Not to mention Michelle Obama's membership in the Council on Foreign Relations. If you hadn't told us, we'd never have known! snicker As I told Edg, I am not, of course, suggesting that there aren't plenty of things that warrant great concern in this country; anybody who's followed my posts would know that. But there's a line between legitimate concern and irrational paranoia, and you and Edg--and Bhairitu--have crossed it repeatedly. The trouble with irrational paranoia is that it distracts one from the less spectacular, more insidious goings-on that *should* be of concern. In Nazi Germany, too, there were the spiritual types who tried to make anyone mentioning the kind of fear you have expressed (and for good reason) feel spiritually inferior for having that fear. Oh, nice, Angela. And you became enraged when you thought (incorrectly) that I had compared you to the Nazis. (Yes, I know you're comparing me to the good Germans, not to the Nazis, but that's almost as ugly.) If what I told Edg makes him feel spiritually inferior, that's his problem, not mine. I don't think that at all, to the contrary. But thanks for trying to convince *him* that's what I was trying to do. What a charming person you are. For the record, I think Edg is head and shoulders above most of us here--certainly *way* above you-- in honesty and openness. It appears to me that you and Bhairitu--especially you--indulge in paranoid imaginings because it makes you feel, as Barry would say, Important and Special to be prophets of doom who make other people afraid. I don't think you do much actual worrying yourselves. I don't think that's Edg's problem. I suspect his fears may actually cause him to lose sleep, or at least to feel uncomfortable a lot of the time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
Alex Stanley posts snipped: FEAR = False Evidence Appearing Real TomT: Attribution to Neale Donald Walsh, Conversations with God book 1 near the end of that volume. Tom
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi, the TMO and women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some very influential, capable women in the movement, such as Rindi Schwartz You speak in the present tense? Is Clarinda still a part of TMO?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: Yes, Angela, torture is indeed a slippery slope. That's how I feel about the tax system. So you like driving though potholes? BTW, I agree the tax system since I have been struggling with my accountant's worksheet is a sham and WAY over complicated. It is imbalanced and we paupers should pay only a token tax and let those greedy bastards pay the bill as they seem to benefit far more than us. Again tax them at 100% if they already have an estate of $12 million. Who needs more? Just greedy bastards. You are, of course,completely off the mark, Barfitu, when it comes to understanding anything about taxes and how much the rich pay. THE RICH ALREADY PAY FAR, FAR MORE THAN THEY SHOULD. Warren Buffer disagrees. Why do you care so much for the rich anyway? You aren't one the last time I checked. Do you even have a pot to piss in? I'm against 10% of the population owning 90% of the wealth. That just isn't right. All that says is that greed has gone out of control. It's the 1990's greed is a virtue virus that got started. I think it got started actually back about 1980 with all those TM teachers who wanted to be financially independent so they could spend more time with Maharishi and of course if they started making money even forgot about meditation. A lot of them tried to hook us with Amway where I saw the beginnings of the greed rage and BTW if you're not a salesman type you probably wouldn't have made any money at that anyway. It takes a special breed to make money off these pyramid schemes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
I see no real fear in Edg's rhetoric. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Young Dove, I think you're right to be afraid. We use the word afraid when we see something negative coming, even when we do not personally feel any emotion of fear. That, it seems to me, is the kind of fear you are talking about, and to pretend that it is the personal emotion of fear is to misread your intentions. Seems to me someone who expresses that kind of fear doesn't beg to be talked out of it, as Edg did. Nor do they say things like: I'm afraid. Yeah, I need a checking, but by my estimate, I'll need another 29 years of four hours a day to get my nervous system to the point where such a fear is seen clearly enough to snuff it. Those two were the tell; Edg was actually being right up front about personally feeling the emotion of fear, your attempt to poohpooh it notwithstanding. It seems you didn't actually bother to read what he said; you were too anxious to get off a slam at me. Your fear is the eternal vigilance that is the price of any democracy. Yeah, boy, it's a really good thing you were so vigilant to warn us about how blacks in the United States were going to lose their right to vote if the Voting Rights Act wasn't renewed. Not to mention Michelle Obama's membership in the Council on Foreign Relations. If you hadn't told us, we'd never have known! snicker As I told Edg, I am not, of course, suggesting that there aren't plenty of things that warrant great concern in this country; anybody who's followed my posts would know that. But there's a line between legitimate concern and irrational paranoia, and you and Edg--and Bhairitu--have crossed it repeatedly. The trouble with irrational paranoia is that it distracts one from the less spectacular, more insidious goings-on that *should* be of concern. In Nazi Germany, too, there were the spiritual types who tried to make anyone mentioning the kind of fear you have expressed (and for good reason) feel spiritually inferior for having that fear. Oh, nice, Angela. And you became enraged when you thought (incorrectly) that I had compared you to the Nazis. (Yes, I know you're comparing me to the good Germans, not to the Nazis, but that's almost as ugly.) If what I told Edg makes him feel spiritually inferior, that's his problem, not mine. I don't think that at all, to the contrary. But thanks for trying to convince *him* that's what I was trying to do. What a charming person you are. For the record, I think Edg is head and shoulders above most of us here--certainly *way* above you-- in honesty and openness. It appears to me that you and Bhairitu--especially you--indulge in paranoid imaginings because it makes you feel, as Barry would say, Important and Special to be prophets of doom who make other people afraid. I don't think you do much actual worrying yourselves. I don't think that's Edg's problem. I suspect his fears may actually cause him to lose sleep, or at least to feel uncomfortable a lot of the time. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety'
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Many Worry about Sen. Obama's Safety' A lot of them tried to hook us with Amway where I saw the beginnings of the greed rage and BTW if you're not a salesman type you probably wouldn't have made any money at that anyway. It takes a special breed to make money off these pyramid schemes. Andy Rymer was at the top of that pyramid, in the movement anyway. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi, the TMO and women
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:43 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi, the TMO and women --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some very influential, capable women in the movement, such as Rindi Schwartz You speak in the present tense? Is Clarinda still a part of TMO? The planets would stray from their orbits before she would leave. I saw a photo of her recently. May even have been in the post mortem ceremonies. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM
[FairfieldLife] Steve Martin of Wilmington responds to amarnath who enjoys Ammachi
I appreciate your note, but you are engaging in word play to diminish my experiences or my practice by saying I am not my experiences. My posting says more. We paint our expressions to communicate but through what we know and experience. What place do you come from that you would try to influence or change one who is happy through years on a path. I do recognize that TM or you name the path is not for everyone. I glad you found your way. I support all those who go there own way. I am not swayed by rhetoric or words of expression from your experiences. What do you express or write poetry about but reflections of your own experiences and what kind of ego would I have to deny them. I remember once when a teacher at a school I worked cornered me one day over a joke I had made. It was something like the meek will inherit the earth if that is all right with you. She immediately said did I know Christ and tried to engage me into conversion as if I had no spiritual life. I felt like I had been assaulted by Thugs for Jesus. Go easy friend. Go easy friend by your intentions that they are not driven by ego instead of the motive of my spiritual wellness. What you have written does not contradict the goal of TM, just our paths.I am happy with my path. Steve Martin --- amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, I'm glad TM works for you. You should know that TM does work well for some few like yourself. But not for everyone. Like Charlie Lutes used to say: Everyone is for TM, but TM is not for everyone. I did it for 25 years and have always at least experienced some peace of mind. And also, several amazing experiences, not too frequently, during the many years that kept me going. But, I came to the realization that due to a chronic problem on the level of body, my daily experiences of TM were taking me nowhere. After my first HUG from Ammachi, the hugging saint, 12 years ago I gave up TM, M and the corrupt TMO( read the posts on FFL ). It was a great feeling of FREEDOM from the DOGMA of TMO. If you wish we can talk sometimes. I live in NJ. Several of Amma's devotees (including Rick Archer moderator of this forum) were great TM heroes initiating thousands into TM and are now with Amma who is a genuine Incarnation of God; MMY was just a great sage(a maha rishi ) and I did love him a lot but he definitely messed things up because he never surrendered his BIG SPIRITUAL EGO. I would like to remind you: As beautiful as your experiences are, DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THEM You are NOT Your experiences. Here is a Healing Prayer I recently wrote plus other things: (you can substitute God for Amma if you wish) Peace Be Still Relax (every cell of your body) Resist Not Allow What Is Joy, Grief or Pain Imagine the I-thought Free of all qualifiers( labels ) Descending from Head to Heart Dissolving in the Love of Silence Rest in the Heart ! Invoke Amma's Presence in your Heart Allow the Current of Amma's Love to Flow To Heal ! Whatever your experiences Your experiences are not who you are Who are you? You are a child of God! God is Love God is Peace (that passeth all understanding) God is Awareness You are that Awareness that is Aware of your experiences You are that Peace that is not disturbed by your experiences You are that Love and Compassion that sees God in others Beyond the external appearances Appearances seem good or bad, wealthy or poor, healthy or ill Seemingly opposing each other But, there are not two powers( good or bad ) There is only One Power which is God Which is always Good Irrespective of surface appearances Peace Be Still and Know Be Aware I Am Amma Bless ~ Anatol Wisdom from our American Indian Heritage: Be still quiet no talk heart listen from DVD Wind River ~ Nick Wilson, a white boy, asks a warrior how to see a vision; above was the reply. Sample review from www.amazon.com: [5.0 out of 5 stars] Wind River--Fabulous, August 5, 2002 This is a movie based upon a true storyvery touching, showing how much love exists between brothers, and how one can learn a world of good from our Indian Heritage. This is certainly a must see movie. I would recommend this one to everyone. Denial of Self Keeping in mind that all words are a distortion of the ultimate Truth which is Silence, here's an attempt at expressing some pointers in the direction of Truth( Silence, Self ): Every thought is a denial of Self, like the clouds( thoughts ) that hide the sun( Self ) Even the thought I am the Self, although much much better than I am the mind-body,is still denial of Self This is not to deny the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha caught on video flying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Love a YouTube poster's comment bullshit in response to this ridiculous video. Here is a clearer video of the same phenomenon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HDLdPJQFtYNR=1 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gandalfaragorn no_reply@ wrote: I looked at the Youtube video a few times. Perhaps it was my laptop screen, but I saw nothing, perhaps some shadow or something. Are we that desperate? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Jaya TV news about a Siddhar seen flying in the air. The details of the incident copied below the URL. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EzBAmals2Wc The clipping what we are seeing is recorded in Thiruannamalai by a electrician of TNEB, while his routine work on girilvalam* track, the great miracle is one siddhar (Siddhars are saints in India, mostly of the Saivaite denomination in Tamil Nadu) walking in the air when the siddhar realized some one is taking video of him he started flying and disappeared in the air, hara hara mahadeva ... The clipping was actually taken on 20th February 2008 around 3-4 PM IST and was telecasted on JAYA TV a tamil television channel on 21st February 2008 Picture quality is low as it was recorded with the help of the mobile phone *- The Significance of Girivalam (Circumambulation) In most of the holy places the Deity is found atop the hill. But here the Holy hill itself is the Deity (Lord Annamalaiyar) and is worshipped. Arunam means sun and denotes the red colour of fire. Asalam means Giri or malai (mountain). Thus Arunachalam means the HOly hill which is rd in colour. The Holy hill is 2668 fi. high. The Annamalai Hill was Agni (fire) during Kirthayugam, was Manikkam (Emerad) during Threthayugam, was Pon (Gold) during Dwaparayugam and rock during Kaliyugam. There are eight lingams located at the eight directions and provides an octagonal structure to Thiruvannamalai Town. The eight lingams are: Indra Lingam, Agni Lingam, Yama Lingam, Niruthi Lingam, Varuna Lingam, Vayu Lingam, Kubera Lingam and Esanya Lingam. The Adi Annamalai Temple glorified in Dhevaram is located on this path. The circumambulation path is 14 kilometres. History has it that even today a number of siddhars are living on the hill. It is auspicious to perform Girilvalam during every Full moon day which would do immense good. It is because during Full Moon Day siddhars movement would be there and the whole atmosphere would be filled with perfumes of herbal plants. This will provide peace of mind and good health to body. It is a proven fact that on every Full moon day lakhs of devotees circumambulate the Hill and get all benefits by praying to Lord Annamalaiyar
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Martin of Wilmington
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful experiences Steve. I really appreciate your posting them, and am glad you joined us. Cool that that voice told you how to do the sutras right. I did them for about 25 years and never really had any results I always preferred just plain meditating but I've often thought that if I ever get to a place where I feel my state of consciousness has shifted radically, I might try them again. Why bother, Rick, the ultimate goal is to realize who you are, not to have beautiful, blissful experiences. You are NOT your experiences. Beautiful, blissful experiences, like the Siddhis, if clung to, for most are an obstacle. Amma says genuine realization that you are NOT your body is enlightenment. Your body consists of five sheaths, the last one being Ananda( Bliss ) which is the hardest to give up. It can feed your spiritual ego and end up like M and his gang of ??? Stick with Amma and read Her Awaken Children Vol 7 Boy, Rick, it certainly sounds like you are too easily swayed by a little BLISS. Sure for a few minutes, I too enjoyed Steve's amazing story. And I feel there is great hope for him, because of his heart experience. But let's wait and see where the Self guides him. In my case, the Self guided me away from M-ego-nonsense and to Amma a genuine Mahatma free of ego. God Bless, anatol
